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Afghanistan: Americans will not leave

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According to the “sensation” of the chairman of the US Senate Committee on Armed Forces, Carl Levin, after the 2014 of the year, ten thousand or less US troops will remain in Afghanistan. According to recent statements by the Pentagon, Afghanistan at that time will still need support. Earlier in the press it was reported that the Americans are doing tremendous work in Afghanistan to reorganize the bases. This suggests: both senators and Pentagon employees know what they are talking about.




Recently, the chairman of the US Senate Committee on the Affairs of the Armed Forces, Karl Levin said: “In my feeling, there will be less than 10 thousands of servicemen, and for me it’s more important what their functions will be.” According to him, the remaining military will be engaged in “anti-terrorism tasks, possibly providing air support” to the Afghan security forces.

A month ago, Pentagon officials are quite clear. statedthat after the withdrawal of US troops, Afghanistan will need American support.

John Sopko, Inspector General for the Reconstruction of Afghanistan, has repeatedly spoken about misappropriation (to put it mildly) of American taxpayers in the IRA. However, this inspector in the highest echelons of power is not heard.

And not so long ago, Mr. Sopko addressed the Congress, urging the senators to either freeze or completely cancel the forty-three contracts signed by the US Army with contractors from Afghanistan. According to the inspector, Afghan companies from the list are associated with Afghan militants, “including supporters of the Taliban, Haqqani and Al-Qaida. However, the military rejected all these cases.

"The Department for the cancellation of contracts in the army believes that the cancellation or freezing of contracts with these persons or companies would be a violation of procedural rights if the cancellation of the contract is based on classified information or information of the Ministry of Commerce," summed up D. Sopko position of the Pentagon. The argument of the latter: evidence was not enough. Volga called the position of the military "legally incorrect" and "contrary to" the goals of national security. In his opinion, there is a clear contradiction between the part of the army that eliminates terrorists and the one that does business with terrorists.

In addition, the report of Mr. Sopko noted that the army froze contracts with 59 contractors and canceled contracts with 68: the listed firms cheated or fell into questionable business practices.

John Sopko saidthat with the help of contracts concluded by the United States with Afghan contractors, the Taliban, since the 2008 year, received more than 150 million dollars. According to the meticulous inspector, the Taliban received the money through contracts with the United States in the areas of construction, logistics, road construction and information technology. “I’m very worried that the US Army can pursue, attack and kill terrorists, but some representatives of our government believe that we cannot prevent contracts with US companies that support militants from receiving contracts,” Sopko said in a report to Congress.

But neither the military nor the senators do not stop the issue of the notorious state inefficiency and widespread corruption, which eats away all the good intentions of Washington - just as they were eroded, say, in Iraq.

The question of whether or not to withdraw troops from Afghanistan is no longer in front of the White House. Answer: do not display. And it's not just poppy or hemp plantations that are rumored to be protected by the ISAF contingent, but that the United States does not want to lose influence in the region. Afghanistan is too convenient a geographic platform for foreign policy. If you look at the map, then there are Iran, and Pakistan, and India, and (through the former Soviet republics) Russia.

In addition, their interests are not tired of lobbying the US military-industrial complex - and the greater the presence of the military abroad, the greater the orders and supplies. True, there is a vicious circle: the “defense” factories of America provide work and fill the budget, but these funds are spent on “restoring the structure” in Afghanistan, and there they are “ineffectively” plundered. It would seem the easiest way to stop the "operation" in Afghanistan, but Barack Obama can not stop either the native military-industrial complex or the flywheel of geopolitics, which has been milled a lot like the current owner of the Oval Office.

The Pentagon’s cooperation with terrorists, which threatens national security, as Mr. Sopko said, neither the military-industrial complex, nor Obama will not stop either. Business is business, the rest is lyrics. After all, it is naive to think that congressmen or the president express the will of the people. They express the will of those and faithfully serve those who paid for their election campaigns.

The Pentagon is not going to withdraw completely from Afghanistan in 2014: it will only switch to the use of joint bases of American and local parts of the Iraqi model. The bases, according to the commander of the coalition forces, will serve the security interests of the United States (probably, by the way, which is inspected by Inspector Sopko).

Nezavisimaya Gazeta Expert notesthat the military presence in the region will allow Washington to put pressure on Russia, China, India and Iran. At the same time, two thirds of Americans, according to one of sociological polls, believe that there is no sense to continue the war in Afghanistan. But the Pentagon is not interested in this opinion. Occupation of the people - to pay tribute to the government, and not to steer wars.

In an interview with Nezavisimaya, Vyacheslav Mikhailov, executive secretary of the Council of the Federation of the Russian Federation group for cooperation with the National Assembly of Afghanistan, indicated that “the United States is doing tremendous efforts to set up bases in Afghanistan. Tens of thousands of people are employed in this work. The main bases are located in Mazar-i-Sharif, Shindand, Kandahar, Bagram, Herat. Caponiers are being built, storage facilities are being built underground for aviation technicians. Afghans are involved as laborers. Technicians, in particular, are specialists imported from Kyrgyzstan. ”

Who will spend so many resources to leave the country? Americans will not leave. The bases, in their hands, the expert believes, will serve as a means of pressure on Iran, China, India, and Pakistan. At the same time, Washington will try to reduce Russia's regional influence.

In the press, both Russian and Western, today you can find the most controversial information (often extracted from rumors and "anonymous sources") about how much the military will remain in Afghanistan after 2014 year. Numbers of nine thousand and even in 25000 are called. In 2011, Obama spoke (vaguely) about three or four thousand. The reorganization of the bases and the continuation of financing the operation suggests that the real number will be much larger: perhaps somewhere between 10 and 25 thousands. It is necessary to take into account the fact that the Americans do not trust the Afghan security forces, which can partially go over to the side of the Taliban, taking with them weapon and ammunition.

And finally, Afghan opiates. Afghanistan - the world record holder in the harvest of narcotic crops. At the "VO" more than once already cited data on the harvests and activities of the "macorob". Heroin is made in close cooperation with Pakistani laboratories. The finished product is also exported to Russia. And Washington, for which Moscow has always been a strategic adversary, has never objected to the extinction of the Russians. In addition, the poppy is also a business, and America is not going to leave it. NATO honestly explains that the goal of the ISAF contingent is not to fight drug traffickers, but to fight terrorism.

In short, wherever you look, money is everywhere. Everywhere green paper. The cycle of the dollar in nature. So the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, widely advertised by the Nobel peacemaker Obama, is from the same opera as the president’s promise to legally restrict the sale of firearms in the United States. Lobbyists will not allow.

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  1. svp67
    svp67 16 September 2013 07: 30 New
    +1
    Afghanistan: Americans will not leave
    - Well, well, wait for them to be buried there ...
    1. Orel
      Orel 16 September 2013 07: 41 New
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      - Well, well, wait for them to be buried there ...


      I would not be so sure. The United States will agree with Karzai and will have the right to cut out all living things with impunity along the perimeter of its bases, while Karzai will be given in exchange to steer the drug trade and be the lifelong dictator of the "new democracy." And everyone is happy.
      1. svp67
        svp67 16 September 2013 07: 50 New
        +3
        Quote: Orel
        And everyone is happy.

        But not in Afghanistan ... There different tribes of “Pashtuns” have many of their interests, plus the interests of other ethnic groups ... in short, the boiler is still the same, and what’s known is being cooked by Allah alone ...
      2. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 16 September 2013 09: 39 New
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        They simply guard their poppy plantations, and put the rest from the big bell tower, all of their shootings with the Taliban, Alkaeda is not a war on terrorism, it is a redistribution of spheres of influence and control of drug supply routes.
        1. Letterksi
          Letterksi 16 September 2013 16: 24 New
          +3
          They will not only protect poppy plantations, they will change their strategy - they will transfer the aggression of the Taliban from themselves towards Russia (through Central Asia) and China
        2. alone
          alone 16 September 2013 21: 47 New
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          the Taliban just during his reign so struggled with drug lords that the volume of drug production fell in Afghanistan almost 8000 times. but then the Americans jumped up and restored everything))
          1. Letterksi
            Letterksi 16 September 2013 22: 09 New
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            Don't be fooled by the Taliban’s struggle with poppy seeds. This is a bike launched into the people. Once the Taliban pretended, approximately in 1999-2001, that they were fighting drugs, destroying poppy crops. Probably because I wanted to score points in front of the international community, nothing more. They even showed on television how a mujahideen walked with some pole ax and shredded her poppy, people believed. Neither the Taliban nor the states fought with poppy seeds, it is a very profitable business for both. Similarly, in Colombia, "fight" with collectors of coca leaves
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 16 September 2013 13: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      - Well, well, wait for them to be buried there ...

      The longer Americans sit in Afghanistan, the better for us. It would be better for the Taliban to spend their forces on them than they will be on our border ...
      And the more they soak each other, the better for us ...
      1. MichaelVl
        MichaelVl 16 September 2013 19: 06 New
        +1
        russ69, my opinion is in solidarity with you.
        Someone has to deal with Afghanistan. Maybe in a sense the United States is an irritant for us, but everything is not as straightforward as it seems at first glance. If the United States leaves there, we ourselves would not have to climb there again. It is in our strategic interests (along with our presence in Afghanistan) to strengthen ourselves in the buffer countries for us that border Afghanistan (Tajikistan, Uzbekistan. Kyrgyzstan - does not border, but we also need to be more attentive to them ...). If these countries are left without attention and competent support, then if it happens that in Afghanistan (for example, the USA leaves there), the border states will be broken and we will get an “abscess” right at our borders with all the “surprises” that follow from here.
        Actually, what Russia is doing now. And does it right! Putin is a very competent person in strategy, he sees everything very far ahead.
        That was all in the Soviet years. It will be now, as our country continues to gain strength and returns to its areas of interest.
        1. I'm Russian
          I'm Russian 16 September 2013 20: 37 New
          +2
          Also in solidarity with you, Michael. And if in 1979 the USSR did not help Amin, then he would have turned for help in the fight against counter-revolution to the United States. Or we or they.
    3. waisson
      waisson 16 September 2013 17: 55 New
      +1
      at one time Panama is now an Afghan drug zone income more than oil
    4. roninas
      roninas 16 September 2013 22: 29 New
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      They will not bury them. Unfortunately, Afghanistan is indeed strategically located. And then the Americans don’t leave anywhere. They’re all over the world .. They will strengthen the base until it’s impossible, and they will be sitting on them without sticking out. The global response time is sharply In general, nothing good for us, in general
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 21 September 2013 13: 45 New
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        Nowhere will the United States leave their Afghanistan, only if the United States ceases to exist.
  2. bomg.77
    bomg.77 16 September 2013 07: 38 New
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    He now lives with his ex-correspondent in America. He meets with their military (Minesweeper), so a month ago he went to Afghanistan for one year.
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 16 September 2013 08: 03 New
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      Quote: bomg.77
      in America. Meets with their military (Minesweeper) so a month ago he went to Afghanistan for one

      Buy a wreath in advance, you’ll have to send it soon.
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 16 September 2013 08: 19 New
        +5
        Quote: Sergh
        Buy a wreath in advance, you’ll have to send it soon.
        Not Brezhnev, I’ll manage with cloves.
        1. Sergh
          Sergh 16 September 2013 08: 25 New
          +3
          Quote: bomg.77
          I’ll manage with cloves.

          Oh, joke bro. Don’t be angry.
          1. bomg.77
            bomg.77 16 September 2013 08: 43 New
            +3
            I realized that a joke, I'm joking too hi laughing
  3. a52333
    a52333 16 September 2013 08: 00 New
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    There will remain amers, bad. They will leave from there, other bunting will appear. A country that has not done ANYTHING for 30 years, only steals and produces drugs, you should not expect anything good from it. That's who really bombed in the Stone Age.
  4. Aney
    Aney 16 September 2013 08: 11 New
    +3
    The Americans know how to fight with little blood, if not cool ...
    But their goal in Afghanistan is not to restore order, yes.
    1. MG42
      MG42 16 September 2013 23: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: Aney
      But their goal in Afghanistan is not to restore order, yes.

      Drugs and the chaos of controlled democracy ..
      Quote: Aney
      The Americans know how to fight with little blood, if not cool ...

      Nothing mows the ranks of the Americans like a guerrilla war, I already uploaded a video on how the Taliban are blowing up American convoys ..
      And this is the result of the actions of the Taliban coffins delivered to the United States >>
  5. ka5280
    ka5280 16 September 2013 08: 24 New
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    But in Russia there are specialists in botany, what kind of muck can they invent so that the Afghan poppy does not grow? And they would raise their own science, and they would shield the population from heroin, and they would allow the populations to die.
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 16 September 2013 08: 45 New
      +7
      Quote: ka5280
      And there is in Russia
      In Russia, there is everything except rubber. I.V. Stalin
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 16 September 2013 18: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: bomg.77
        In Russia, there is everything except rubber. I.V. Stalin

        Some types of dandelion - contain rubber in the roots.
        Comrade Stalin was a little mistaken, Russia has everything.
        In the USSR, for some time, rubber was also obtained from the milky juice of dandelions, namely from the species Kok-sagyz (Taraxacum kok-saghyz), recognized as one of the best in terms of its performance. The "native" of Kazakhstan, in the USA better known as the "Russian dandelion", has taken root well in the OARDC laboratories. Her staff recently traveled to our region for the next batch of samples.

        Unlike medicinal dandelion (Taraxacum officinale), coc-sagyz is much more effective rubber bearing: its roots contain 6-11% rubber (up to 27% in the roots of wild plants). At the same time, it is not inferior in quality to rubber from hevea, even if the plants are not modified and not selected.

        And even though it is written a native of Kazakhstan, but I think next to Orenburg it is also growing)))
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 16 September 2013 21: 45 New
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          Quote: Scoun
          Comrade Stalin was a little mistaken

          At the time when he said these words, there was no rubber and only after his instruction they searched for a rubber tree substitute and became a dandelion. Under the dandelion, large sowing fields are needed, but not a lot, they came to the conclusion that it is better to buy abroad. Stalin was rarely mistaken and the situation He knew perfectly in the country, from weapons to food and was interested in everything!
    2. asadov
      asadov 16 September 2013 10: 26 New
      +1
      I think that against this idea there would be many individuals who earn on this. As with us and around the world.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 16 September 2013 10: 46 New
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        Quote: asadov
        many individuals would be against this idea

        And I hope these individuals are law abiding? And if not, then why grieve for them?
        1. Aney
          Aney 16 September 2013 11: 36 New
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          Dear, they WRITE laws ...
    3. a52333
      a52333 16 September 2013 11: 51 New
      +1
      There is a good way. carpet bombing.
    4. sak1969
      sak1969 16 September 2013 20: 28 New
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      Quote: ka5280
      But in Russia there are specialists in botany, what kind of muck can they invent so that the Afghan poppy does not grow? And they would raise their own science, and they would shield the population from heroin, and they would allow the populations to die.

      Such thoughts come to my mind.
      Well, either in space above the Afghan, it’s like to hang a weather satellite, or some kind of laser, so that the poppy crop is sharply reduced ...
      Wow, the Taliban will be brutalized when they find out who destroyed their gerych.
  6. 31231
    31231 16 September 2013 08: 52 New
    +4
    If they had abandoned such a fatty drug trafficking.
    1. V. Tarasyan
      V. Tarasyan 16 September 2013 10: 02 New
      +6
      Poppy in Afghanistan as oil in Iraq is a "national" asset. lol
  7. repytw
    repytw 16 September 2013 10: 24 New
    +2
    Central Asia is the underbelly of Russia and America, of course, will not leave there, unless it creates a situation similar to Afghanistan, for example in Uzbekistan, it is necessary to strengthen in Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, the Taliban will go there, and they will not finish off their masters.
  8. de bouillon
    de bouillon 16 September 2013 10: 34 New
    0
    so they said that special forces and military instructors would remain.

    At one time, until the spring of 2002, there was no large American contingent in Afghanistan either. coped only with special forces and the CIA. Such a war can go at least 50 years.
  9. Ulysses
    Ulysses 16 September 2013 10: 49 New
    +1
    Well, how can such profitable drug trafficking be left without control and sensitive leadership.
    The stump is clear that they will not leave.
    In an extreme case, they will replace the army with PMCs (private military companies).
  10. Basarev
    Basarev 16 September 2013 11: 00 New
    -2
    In a good way, you should help the Taliban or someone else. To enter into an alliance with any enemies of the Americans in Afghanistan, because only thermobaric ammunition sober up the Americans
    1. Sirozha
      Sirozha 16 September 2013 11: 32 New
      -4
      Yeah, come on! The Americans have al-Qaeda helped! ..
    2. matross
      matross 16 September 2013 12: 38 New
      -4
      Quote: Basarev
      To enter into an alliance with any enemies of the Americans in Afghanistan

      Reasonable. But do it secretly. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
  11. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 16 September 2013 11: 52 New
    +4
    US troops will remain in Afghanistan forever. Very favorable location of this country. Favorable for the Pentagon. Iran is nearby, Russia is not far, China is just a single throw from a medium-range missile. Solid benefits. No, they will sit there and slowly maintain the smoldering fire of the internecine conflict, and dollars will drip into the US military complex.
    1. IS-80
      IS-80 16 September 2013 17: 57 New
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      Quote: Ivanovich47
      US troops will remain in Afghanistan forever. Very favorable location of this country. Favorable for the Pentagon. Iran is nearby, Russia is not far, China is just a single throw from a medium-range missile. Solid benefits. No, they will sit there and slowly maintain the smoldering fire of the internecine conflict, and dollars will drip into the US military complex.


      I believe that their task today is to defeat Syria, then Iran. Planting pro-American governments, setting up a bunch of bases around the perimeters of Russia and China to organize an intensified struggle of local border and not very separatists for freedom against oppression by the totalitarian regimes of Russia and China, sending fighters across borders. The final goal is the collapse of Russia, the collapse of China. Uh, and there India is at hand, and the Indians need help with democracy. Wrong countries should disappear. Well, as a pleasant bonus, control of oil and gas and other minerals, buying them for beads and other democratic values.
  12. Nitup
    Nitup 16 September 2013 12: 12 New
    0
    Maybe they want to synchronize the exit from Afghanistan with the overthrow of Assad in Syria?
  13. aszzz888
    aszzz888 16 September 2013 12: 51 New
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    According to the “feeling” of the Chairman of the Committee on Armed Forces of the US Senate, Karl Levin, after the 2014 year, about ten thousand US troops or less will remain in Afghanistan.


    Not all the crap pulled out on the sides. It is necessary for someone to continue to blow drug trafficking.
  14. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 16 September 2013 14: 08 New
    +2
    Afghanistan: Americans will not leave

    And thank God.
    If amers leave Afghanistan, we will have to come there so that terrorism and extremism do not spread from there. And this is the death of our guys, it needs huge resources.
    Now the truth is that there goes narcotics, but where is the guarantee that when amers leave there, it will run out of drugs. Yes, when the Taliban ruled in Afghanistan, there was no dope. But the Taliban are not there now, and there is no guarantee that they will appear there. In addition, when the Taliban were there, extremism and terrorism came from Afghanistan. And it is not known which is worse: drugs, or terrorism.
    1. MichaelVl
      MichaelVl 16 September 2013 19: 19 New
      0
      Ivan_Ivanov, that's right. Exactly!
    2. 31231
      31231 16 September 2013 19: 27 New
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      From 89th to 2001 there was no one there. So it's hard to say how this gadyushnik will behave better against us.
  15. knn54
    knn54 16 September 2013 15: 12 New
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    If the Americans wanted to leave Afghanistan, they would HAVE NOT been there long ago.
    But the rest of NATO is spreading.
    PS The USA "discover" in Afghanistan the mineral deposits found by the Soviets in the 80s
    ("True / Slant", USA) ttp: //www.inosmi.ru/india/20100615/160599849.html#ixzz2f3LPBeXH
    Will you leave here?
  16. slacker
    slacker 16 September 2013 17: 02 New
    +3
    The longer Americans get involved in Afghanistan, the more their American funds will be spent to the detriment of America itself.
  17. SPBOBL
    SPBOBL 16 September 2013 18: 28 New
    0
    Amrikos from Afghanistan will not leave until they are expelled from there ... the question is who?
  18. Ivan79
    Ivan79 16 September 2013 18: 37 New
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    But the Americans have no behind-the-scenes agreement, for an hour, with the Taliban?
  19. albai
    albai 16 September 2013 19: 15 New
    0
    Judging by the prevailing situation, the amers will not go anywhere. Moreover, the remaining group of forces will sometimes have to be strengthened, sometimes reduced depending on the temperature of relations with Russia, Central Asia and China with India. Another thing is that all of their bases will be under the vigilant control of the Taliban brothers and other Islamic-gangsters. Little under control also with regular bloodletting. And rather big poppy plantations require their own eyes. And this presence of amers will distract many fighters from the borders of Central Asia. So let them sit and nightmare. The more they pass through these bases, the more in America there will be loonies, wounded, disabled and sick. And the more of these wretched. the fewer freebies to see the world through the sight.
  20. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 16 September 2013 22: 08 New
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    V. Tarasyan SU
    Poppy in Afghanistan as oil in Iraq is a "national" asset.

    Like in Iraq, oil, and in Afghanistan, poppy - this is “American heritage” to a greater extent, the Americans, on TV in one program they showed how armed soldiers of Amer walk on plantations, and Afghans plow nearby on these plantations, so to speak, “under guard” . And it flashed as a transport plane, loaded to the eyeballs, flies off to SySHYa, but what a load, the amers do not report to anyone.
  21. roninas
    roninas 16 September 2013 22: 39 New
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    I completely agree with those who say that the Americans will not leave Afghanistan. They will not leave. It is too strategically located. Yes, China, India, Russia, all close by. What will they do? They will strengthen the bases even more, they will not hang out, and "will sit. They don’t leave anywhere, around the world base
  22. Agent 008
    Agent 008 17 September 2013 03: 44 New
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    In general, it seems to me that soon the Afghan TALIBAN, the Americans are bogged down as they do on the Internet, and then they’re sure kirdyk ... Taliban "moderators" do not sleep ...