In Syria, there is a C-300

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Syrian government forces have several C-300 anti-aircraft missile systems (ZRS), while Iskander’s supplies of tactical missiles (OTR) have been detained by Russia. This was stated by sources in the Hezbollah leadership to a correspondent of the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Rai, reports PostSkriptum. The Lebanese Hezbollah movement supports the efforts of Bashar Assad in the fight against militants seeking to overthrow his government by armed means.

The reason for the absence in Syria of the OTR "Iskander" is considered by President Putin to underestimate the speed with which the United States began preparing for the solution of the Syrian issue by force.

According to Hezbollah, a well thought-out American-Israeli plan is being carried out around Syria. Proof of this is Netanyahu’s last visit to Moscow and his request not to supply Syria with C-300. Israeli Prime Minister assured Putin of Israel’s desire not to change the military-political balance in the Middle East. In addition, he expressed concern that advanced weapons systems could fall into the hands of extremist groups in Syria.

According to the Hezbollah leadership, President Putin did not believe Netanyahu’s assertions. However, the execution of contracts for the supply of Syria weapons slowed down so as not to provoke the West. But despite this, a certain amount of C-300 SAMs are on the way.

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In Syria, there is a C-300The S-300 (SA-10, Grumble) ZRS has several modifications. All-weather C-300PMU2 “Favorite” long-range (export version) is intended for the zone defense of important military-state objects and groups of troops from strikes of all types of modern EAS with intensive enemy electronic countermeasures. The Favorit missile defense system is capable of hitting airplanes, helicopters and cruise missiles at 3-200 km ranges in the altitude range from 10 m to 27 km, operating at speeds over 10000 km / h with a probability 0,8-0,97.

The Iskander-E mobile high-precision operational-tactical missile system (OTRK) (SS-26) is designed to defeat small-sized and area targets in the depth of the operational deployment of enemy troops at a distance from 50 to 280 km. These can be weapons of fire, missile defense and air defense, airfields, command posts and communications centers, infrastructure facilities and other important small-sized and area targets. The missile can be equipped with cassette, high-explosive fragmentation and penetrating warhead in the usual equipment. Missile mass - 3800 kg, weight of the warhead - 480 kg.
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  1. +44
    11 September 2013 11: 41
    But, despite this, a certain number of S-300 air defense systems are on the way.

    Is it on the way or is it in place? We lured speculation on the topic. Why publish arguments. There is C- 300 excellent! no - it is necessary to deliver. And grind the ground ...

    Syrian government forces have several S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems

    blurry again. Surely there is. The question is whether they know how to work for them and how many there are and whether there is a BC to them and so on ...
    1. Guun
      +25
      11 September 2013 11: 45
      The Iskanders will not deliver - there is a big risk of losing, and even worse they can get their Western partners.
      1. +21
        11 September 2013 11: 46
        And not only that. Can you imagine how in one place the hair of the same Nitanyahu stir?
        1. +26
          11 September 2013 11: 56
          His hair will move when he sees a nuclear mushroom above Nahal Sorek wassat
          1. Vovka levka
            +1
            11 September 2013 14: 12
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            His hair will move when he sees a nuclear mushroom above Nahal Sorek wassat

            I have no words.
            1. +4
              11 September 2013 18: 25
              Even a resident of the sovereign Moon will have hair stirring when he sees a "mushroom" within the solar system.
          2. +2
            12 September 2013 00: 36
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            His hair will move when he sees a nuclear mushroom above Nahal Sorek wassat


            Maybe they will see, but only they will not be able to tell what they saw laughing
        2. +21
          11 September 2013 12: 01
          I am current for the hair of the Jews climbed from all places. a lot of water has poured time to do something about it. and about the Iskanders, then you don’t have to worry, I think that you can install a self-destruction program in them just in case. after all, a modern weapon and not a catapult with axes.
          1. +1
            11 September 2013 23: 03
            Self-liquidation should be. But only when our weapons are used against us.
            1. +1
              12 September 2013 00: 37
              Quote: Patriot.ru.
              Self-liquidation should be. But only when our weapons are used against us.


              She is. Even more globally. Satellite signal and weapons deactivated, forever laughing
      2. +7
        11 September 2013 11: 54
        Yes, they have already been delivered; why did you think the BDK was sent there? In addition, they do not know what a secret for a long time and at the moment they are being upgraded to increase the range. Yes, and in fact, it would not hurt to check.
        1. +1
          12 September 2013 00: 48
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          Yes, they have already been delivered; why did you think the BDK was sent there? In addition, they do not know what a secret for a long time and at the moment they are being upgraded to increase the range. Yes, and in fact, it would not hurt to check.


          As I understand it, six months ago, ours were going to help Assad get rid of XO. The move was clearly calculated and Assad quickly agreed to it, apparently everything had been agreed for a long time. Now 5 BDKs will simply take on board all the ammunition equipped with chemistry and take it for disposal, most likely to us, along the Volga in Saratov, and there they will dispose of it as it should. And let the western components take the binary components laughing ... it was about a few thousand tons, so let them choke laughing
          1. Andrei shit
            +1
            12 September 2013 01: 20
            better let them get some
      3. +24
        11 September 2013 12: 03
        Quote: Guun
        Iskanders will not deliver -


        It is not clear where the topic of the supply of Iskander OTR to Syria came from. In our Armed Forces of Russia, you can count them on one hand, and now there is a "conversation" about delivery "over the hill", but to this turbulent and unstable region.
        If the conversation was about the supply of the Tochka or Tochka-U TR complexes, then this can still be taken on faith, but Iskander ....
        1. +8
          11 September 2013 12: 12
          By the way, about the Iskander or the news or the duck was not so long ago, in general, we wanted to put the Iskander (in the future) in Kaliningrad - that’s how the Pshek raised such a howl, but notice the Kaliningrad region is the territory of Russia. They wanted to deliver to Belarus (either a duck or news). In general, continuous rumors and no more on this about Syria can not be said.
          1. +8
            11 September 2013 16: 17
            klimpopov
            That's right. When the Poles intended to host an American missile defense system, in our Kaliningrad Region a decision was made to deploy the Iskanders, whose radius of action blocked the starting positions of the missile defense system ... the Poles shouted, of course ... but a lot of Poles shouted it’s such a fortune to constantly be under the gun of missiles with which warheads are still .... they had quite serious fights there, the majority of the population was against missile defense (oh, pun):))) not deployed, Iskanders, it seems, did not set, so that perhaps Well, there’s nothing more serious than the Point-We have here ... but the indignation, yes, there were no borders ... :)))
            1. +4
              11 September 2013 16: 54
              It’s good when there is something to bargain ... This is the power of powerful and modern weapons ...
        2. +2
          11 September 2013 13: 40
          Quote: zanoza
          It is not clear where the topic of the supply of Iskander OTR to Syria came from.

          Probably in the dreams of Hezbollah.
          "Source in the leadership of Hezbollah, a Kuwaiti newspaper ...."
          Such news does not respect yourself to comment.
          1. 0
            11 September 2013 17: 53
            laughing Well, hezbollah can say anything, but really, all this can be found out only when it is activated with the S-300. I hope at least it hasn’t come to that
        3. don.kryyuger
          +3
          11 September 2013 14: 23
          There is "Tochka-U" there, for a long time, the army has been using them, but since this is an expensive pleasure, they only hit clusters of "partisans".
          1. +1
            11 September 2013 17: 56
            there is a point, not a point-y.
        4. +1
          12 September 2013 00: 42
          Quote: zanoza
          Quote: Guun
          Iskanders will not deliver -


          It is not clear where the topic of the supply of Iskander OTR to Syria came from. In our Armed Forces of Russia, you can count them on one hand, and now there is a "conversation" about delivery "over the hill", but to this turbulent and unstable region.
          If the conversation was about the supply of the Tochka or Tochka-U TR complexes, then this can still be taken on faith, but Iskander ....


          There is a point in Syria, still Soviet. As I understand it, they have a weapon for the last word. Is Iskander or not - no one will report to us, they did not come out in rank. But they can put it - pay money, get the version with the letter "E" and leheim. If Syria paid for it, they would have delivered it. Regarding the point - in the case of Syria, this will be just strategic offensive weapons. Before such delivery, the consequences must be considered for a long time. Even the most balanced leader sometimes itches his hands like "fucking together in Tbilisi" ...
      4. +11
        11 September 2013 12: 13
        Quote: ..
        There are S-300s in Syria, sources in Hezbollah’s leadership told a Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Rai.


        Hezbollah again. What other sources do not have?

        There are normal agencies,

        Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, on the eve of the G20 summit, announced that certain components of the S-300 air defense systems had been delivered to Syria. Reports about it RIA News.At the same time, he noted that deliveries are still underway.

        Hedgehog it is clear that the components are assembled into the product on site.
        1. +2
          11 September 2013 12: 27
          Here I am talking about too. Is it really impossible to quote the president?
        2. Azaat
          0
          11 September 2013 12: 53
          That's right !!! And how to collect will be fast or slow, good or bad, it's the Syrians. Like the fact that fighting at these complexes, well or poorly trained, will also be Syrians. Our guys wouldn’t be needed there.
      5. +3
        11 September 2013 12: 52
        That's right, the latest Iskanders cannot be delivered to an unstable country. Will fall into the hands of enemies and the entire short-lived. There are enough Points.
      6. +2
        11 September 2013 13: 30
        Quote: Guun
        The Iskanders will not deliver - there is a big risk of losing, and even worse they can get their Western partners.

        "Iskanders" is certainly too much. So far, Tochka-U is enough, especially since there are Iranian launchers, somewhere there was a photo of launches from them in Syria.
      7. Good Ukraine
        +4
        11 September 2013 14: 30
        hi
        Quote: Guun
        The Iskanders will not deliver - there is a big risk of losing, and even worse they can get their Western partners.


        Why Iskander at once? - There is a "Point" in the end, too, not bad. I think there are these complexes in Syria.
        And the presence in any country of good air defense (C 300) turns this country into a country without problems with democracy. good
        And in order not to scare Tamahawks from the sea, you need to put a couple of CLUBs.
        And all the "democratizers" will forget about Syria.
      8. 0
        11 September 2013 17: 55
        Quote: Guun
        The Iskanders will not deliver - there is a big risk of losing, and even worse they can get their Western partners.

        If they will deliver, then the export option ... In my opinion - it is necessary to deliver .....
      9. series
        +8
        11 September 2013 20: 52
        I read the whole branch and was upset ... crying
        at least they would be interested, colleagues ... Iskander-E Syria has long been delivered!
        as "Point-U", coastal mine - "Bastion-S"(Putin's knight's move) wink
        Shalom, Iron Cumpole!
        This is us - missiles from Syria, with love!
        hi
      10. +1
        12 September 2013 00: 34
        Quote: Guun
        The Iskanders will not deliver - there is a big risk of losing, and even worse they can get their Western partners.


        Western partners can simply buy them, like sausage in a store. Someone like Jordan will start negotiations and buy a division for trial, and the division will simply leave for America. So this is not an argument. Well there will be an export option. In it, the identification system is different and one missile on the PU. The software of combat algorithms is encrypted so that it is enticed to decrypt, all around protection against unauthorized access. The partners will shoot the ammunition for export missiles, smack their lips and go to invent new intrigues against Syria. It’s another matter that Iskander will keep the calf at gunpoint and the iron dome is not a hindrance to him, this is an argument. Benny could have bent over with his pants off.
    2. +9
      11 September 2013 11: 45
      I agree, there is already so much desa on these three hundred that I no longer want to read such materials.
      Even if they are there, they will not play a significant role.
      You need layered defense, and it is very difficult to build it when not the whole country is under control, especially since you have been waging a difficult war for more than two years, and the most armed army at the moment will attack you. Moreover, you do not have a space grouping and early warning stations, Russia will certainly help, but still this is not the case.
      1. Natalia
        +7
        11 September 2013 11: 57
        Syrian government forces have several S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems

        If this is not some kind of information duck, well then.
        Of course, if they want, tens of thousands of tons of madness in the form of "Nimitz" and "Harry Truman" will sweep them away anyway, but the S-300 is the S-300, it won't be possible to win on dry ...
    3. eplewke
      +15
      11 September 2013 11: 51
      S-300, in any case, if they exist, then they are with our specialists ... Because the Arabs definitely do not trust such equipment ... But our specialists are there, it is a fact. And about the news speculation, I agree with you, some rumors and arguments, no facts! And the article is another rumor.
    4. +5
      11 September 2013 11: 54
      Quote: klimpopov
      Is it on the way or is it in place?

      Klim, hi! So the source is what -This was stated by sources in the leadership of Hezbollah, Namyto is still a mild comparison. God grant that all this would be in Syria. Assad is far from being a sucker to share such info with Hezbollah's ally
      1. +1
        11 September 2013 11: 56
        Hello! yes, the source also pleased wassat
        1. Ruslan_F38
          +1
          11 September 2013 12: 01
          If the S-300 is good. And if you put the Iskander - Israel will be in a chicken faint.
    5. +9
      11 September 2013 13: 10
      Hezbollah nightmares shit democrats wassat Probably the next news will be "Russia delivered Topol-M to Assad." Then the insolent peacekeepers will fight at night. smile
      1. drewlanin
        +2
        11 September 2013 21: 14
        and then it will be like in the movie, well, the fighter pisses so exactly, comrade military piss, well, Nitsche fighter you will not only piss, but I’ll fight it, I think the shit is the best option !!!
      2. eplewke
        0
        12 September 2013 11: 59
        Well poplar you certainly went too far. I think for nervous tics and sleepless nights they have enough Tornadoes, Pinocchio for complete epilepsy ... laughing
    6. waisson
      +1
      11 September 2013 14: 09
      according to the information, unfortunately, there is supposedly no completely Syrian specialist who should have mastered the complex in 2014 but I hope that our instructors will help myself to finish the training with which the instructors left for Syria-Libya-Egypt-Vietnam and so on in 80.
    7. Skiff
      +1
      11 September 2013 14: 18
      Strange you, who will tell you where and how many and when there will be missiles, this is Santa Barbara, and military secret.
      1. 0
        11 September 2013 14: 42
        And I asked about where, when and how much? The question is something else ...
    8. faraon
      +1
      11 September 2013 15: 36
      That's exactly what is blurry about it being reported. Yes and there will still be S-300s or not in Syria so far no one can say anything else, but can these systems, while in the presence of the Syrian army, work effectively, After all, the Syrian officer is very different from Russian with his education, mentality, responsibility to fulfill the task.
      And the second 300 complex, after all, is a deeply echeloned air defense system that will be effective in conjunction with the entire air defense ring. And is there such a connection, there is a civil war in the country and sometimes the reports do not accurately reflect the real facts
      1. jiz sibiri
        +1
        11 September 2013 21: 36
        That's exactly what is blurry about it being reported. Yes and there will still be S-300s or not in Syria so far no one can say anything else, but can these systems, while in the presence of the Syrian army, work effectively, After all, the Syrian officer is very different from Russian one with his education, mentality, responsibility to accomplish the task. That's exactly what is vague about this. Yes and there will still be S-300 in Syria, no one can say anything else, but can these systems be in the presence of the Syrian army work effectively, a Syrian officer fact very different from the Russia of his education, mentality, the responsibility to carry out the task.
        And the second 300 complex, after all, is a deeply echeloned air defense system that will be effective in conjunction with the entire air defense ring. And is there such a connection, there is a civil war in the country and sometimes the reports do not accurately reflect the real facts
        And the second 300 complex, after all, is a deeply echeloned air defense system that will be effective in conjunction with the entire air defense ring. And is there such a connection, there is a civil war in the country and sometimes the reports do not accurately reflect the real facts




        but you compare how the Assad army fought at the beginning of the war and how it is fighting now

        and guess who would teach them to fight

        Well, if our taught them how to fight, and with 300 to apply, they will also teach them

        (it will be hard for you to fly)
        1. faraon
          0
          12 September 2013 11: 35
          Yes, it’s not a matter of flights and airplanes, explain to me the dark what Assad has been fighting for two and a half years — if he has such an army, trained and trained, why he allowed the armament of the opposition from his depots, why his officers and generals flee to the side of the opposition. And many more why.
          And now, with regard to training. Not their motivation and mentality, it’s like those Afghans who received higher military education in the USSR. And after the USSR left Afghanistan, they pushed their revolution
          1. 0
            12 September 2013 12: 04
            Quote: faraon
            Not that they have motivation and mentality

            Michael, help me, the dark deal with the pictures. What are the inscriptions in them and in what language?
          2. 0
            12 September 2013 12: 06
            and here is the second with the same question
      2. 0
        12 September 2013 02: 12
        Quote: faraon
        That's exactly what is blurry about it being reported. Yes and there will still be S-300 or not in Syria


        I will not quote everything.

        1. And what is actually a Syrian officer worse than an Israeli ???

        2. S-300 can work on its own - TsU, PU, ​​radar and all. They will fire at their zone and leheim.
      3. 0
        12 September 2013 07: 49
        Quote: faraon
        But can these complexes, while in the presence of the Syrian army, work efficiently? After all, the Syrian officer is very different from the Russian in his education, mentality, and responsibility to carry out the task.

        The hopes of young men feed
        Joy is served to the elders

        laughing
      4. 0
        12 September 2013 10: 03
        see my post ...
    9. 0
      11 September 2013 18: 47
      Quote: klimpopov
      Is it on the way or is it in place? We lured speculation on the topic.

      Nothing scares like the unknown!
      The game has entered the next phase, phase _ Iskander, whether it is, or not!
      Life is bad without sucker


      In the subject
      Missile cruiser "Moskva" entered the Mediterranean Sea
      http://www.itar-tass.com/c1/873103.html
    10. Modus
      +1
      17 September 2013 20: 17
      As a former air defense worker, I’m risking writing a few words on this topic.
      The S-300 air defense system, being a very good air defense system, is not any "miracle weapon", as many think.
      To assume that the mere appearance of 4 such air defense systems will dramatically change the strategic situation in Syria is somewhat naive.
      As correctly written in one of the comments, this requires a layered air defense system. It should be added that powerful and modern EW stations are still required, as well as jamming radars and other means of target detection at small and extremely low altitudes, ACS, trained calculations, of course, modern air forces and IA are needed. And much more is needed.
      And even all this, together, DOES NOT GUARANTEE a reliable reflection of the massive impact of TFRs flying on the PMW, under the cover of powerful active noise interference along the line of sight of the target and missile.
      It should be borne in mind that, along with the strengths of the air defense system, it also has many weaknesses, which our "partners" are well aware of.
      You can remember, at least, that this complex is quite "bulky" and not armored. Therefore, it is extremely vulnerable to attacks from the ground. Even a small mortar raid on a SAM position will almost certainly lead to its failure. Yes, and shelling from small arms - too. But in Syria there is a civil war and battles are going on even in Damascus ...
      It should be understood that the declared performance characteristics do not mean their indispensable implementation in all conditions. Depending on the combat position, TTD goals, their altitude, electronic countermeasures, etc. they are VERY different.
      For example, the detection range of targets at extremely low altitudes (where TFR usually fly) is determined by the curvature of the earth. For SKR it will be 30-40 km maximum. So the time for their capture and shelling will be VERY short.
      1. 0
        18 September 2013 17: 20
        Quote: Modus
        It should be added that powerful and modern electronic warfare stations are still required, anti-jamming radars and other means of target detection at low and extremely low altitudes,

        Well, I think somehow, this question is resolved _ at the expense of our ships naturally.
        Quote: Modus
        DOES NOT GUARANTEE reliable reflection of a massive impact of TFR

        In general, it’s humorous for me to read the comments of our URY-patriots (yes, yes, URA, not URA, these are two completely different categories, in my opinion of course)!
        We are talking only about inflicting unacceptable losses on the attackers.
        This task of the S-300 is quite capable.
        1. Modus
          0
          18 September 2013 20: 42
          As for the "hurray" of partotism, I completely agree with you.
          There is nothing worse than capricious moods.
          Essentially your comment:
          I am not very familiar with the noise immunity of naval radars. But even if you imagine that it is a cut above that of the country's air defense equipment (which is unlikely), it is necessary that information from these naval radars be transmitted in real time to the firing positions of the Syrian air defense systems. It is simply impossible to do.
          The real combat capabilities of the S-300 can only be shown by the experience of its use in the course of a real war. This experience has not yet been. So time will tell.
          Best regards,
          1. 0
            18 September 2013 21: 00
            Quote: Modus
            It is simply impossible to do.
            The real combat capabilities of the S-300 can only be shown by the experience of its use in the course of a real war. This experience has not yet been.

            I think Hussein Obama would not want the USAF to act as a guinea pig.
            You look at how the C 300 chain lined up
            The supply contract was either there or not
            There is a contract
            Either made or not.
            Made
            Either shipped, or not.
            Shipped
            Either received, or not.
            Received, but not in full !!!
            Constantly on S-300 Yusovtsy keep on treason .
            Type want to know for sure _ Ahead, for the consequences are not responsible!
            By the way, the question arose _ Who is next. Type _ Algeria. So he got his first S-300 for a long time! It seems back in 10 years.
            bully
            1. Modus
              0
              18 September 2013 21: 10
              Wait and see.
              I will say it again: it's too early to make a "wunderwaffe" from a "three hundred".
              1. 0
                19 September 2013 17: 40
                Quote: Modus
                It's too early to make a "wunderwaffe" from a "three hundred".

                Yes, and it won’t work out.
                It was said
                Quote: Cynic
                We are talking only about inflicting unacceptable losses on the attackers.
                1. Modus
                  0
                  19 September 2013 19: 57
                  I agree.
                  It remains to be understood exactly what percentage will be considered "unacceptable"?
                  During WWII, for strategic US aviation, it was considered above 5% of the raid.
                  O for a raid of 300 TFR, what% would be unacceptable ?!
                  1. 0
                    20 September 2013 10: 25
                    Quote: Modus
                    During WWII, for strategic US aviation, it was considered above 5% of the raid.

                    I will ask to notice during the war , i.e. in the conduct of hostilities, and not in the first strike, and the Congress with the Senate did not threaten impeachment with the sword of Damocles.
                    So, it is quite possible that the percentage can be much larger.
                    But why exactly TFR then? And if, roughly speaking, EVERYTHING is in the air in the area of ​​the Yusovskiy Navy grouping?
                    Yes, still _ we will not forget about the Bastions.
                    hi
  2. +5
    11 September 2013 11: 41
    Well, "big hello" to NATO aviation!
    1. +7
      11 September 2013 12: 14
      Quote: Predator-74
      Well, "big hello" to NATO aviation!

      There will be no aviation until the amers understand how Syrian air defense opposes cruise missiles. If it works out efficiently, it won’t be at all. If there is no sense in rebuff, they can also connect aviation.
  3. +1
    11 September 2013 11: 42
    It was generally fun from the Iskander! the ardor was many times less, it’s a pity ...
    1. +13
      11 September 2013 11: 44
      If you put Iskander-Israel will howl howl not yet when. In general, the existence of such a state as Israel, in the presence of such complexes, is being called into question.
      1. eplewke
        +12
        11 September 2013 11: 54
        Not only Israel will howl, Erdogan will be cast off. Iskander can still carry a tactical nuclear warhead. It certainly puts the aggressors in their place, but I really don't want to give such weapons to the wrong hands ...
      2. Samminosh
        0
        11 September 2013 12: 04
        Israel's military strength and technological advantage is head and shoulders above all neighbors; do not drive the blizzard. The IDF is one of the most efficient and most experienced armies in the world, which, incidentally, would not hurt us to learn from, and a dozen export weather iskandera will not do.
        Yes, they will make you nervous, but there will be no fundamental change in the balance of power.
        But we can get a lot of trouble from the refusal to supply unmanned technologies to new equipment of all kinds of Georgia.
        And in lobbying world affairs, Jews have no equal. They can click in other directions.
        1. +12
          11 September 2013 12: 15
          Quote: Samminosh
          But we can get a lot of trouble from the refusal to supply unmanned technologies to new equipment of all kinds of Georgia.

          Well, yes, otherwise they will not arm Georgia to please us.
        2. +4
          11 September 2013 12: 37
          About the blizzard, what are you talking about?
          I wrote in my post only about perspective and alternative reality. And for some reason you perceive it at your own expense.
          Will Israel make the deep defense in depth and the nth number of Iskanders nervous? And at its borders? The rhetorical question. And the fact that Tsakhal is the best army in the world is what we constantly hear.
          1. +8
            11 September 2013 13: 00
            Now their cavalry will gallop into the chat and tell the whole "truth" about the "life-being" of the Middle East.
          2. faraon
            0
            11 September 2013 15: 48
            I wrote to you above, but I repeat. In Syria there is no deeply layered air defense system, there is a lack of personnel for these systems, It’s a weapon Like Iskander, the S-300 is in the hands of a savage, so is it worth transferring this weapon to anyone as a trophy.
            1. +4
              11 September 2013 15: 55
              In general, I agree, without trained personnel, a pile of scrap metal. But personnel are a matter of time.
              1. faraon
                -2
                11 September 2013 16: 28
                Yes, the time has already been lost, but where is the guarantee that tomorrow these complexes will not be in the hands of the opposition (I admit that with the Russian specialists)
                1. +3
                  11 September 2013 17: 00
                  Oh yeah, what’s there, in Kaliningrad they tried to place it, the pshek went under themselves twice and then Syria. But from time to time it’s worth to wave your fist, it cools the riotous heads.
                  About what they get. The way out is to train mother Syrians in Russia. Well, even if iron gets there, Israel will not see anything new there because it is not C-400 ... But to send specialists there only on voluntary terms and for big money, a man went as a military specialist and secured his life, but it is better with us.
                2. 0
                  12 September 2013 02: 16
                  Quote: faraon
                  Yes, the time has already been lost, but where is the guarantee that tomorrow these complexes will not be in the hands of the opposition (I admit that with the Russian specialists)


                  And where is the guarantee that Israel will not start a nuclear war tomorrow?
            2. 0
              12 September 2013 02: 15
              Quote: faraon
              This is a weapon. Something like Iskander, the S-300 is a stick in the hands of a savage, so whether it is worth handing over this weapon to anyone as a trophy.


              In the same place above they answered already to you - to show off inappropriately. In my opinion, savages with a stick are those who supply weapons to bandits from the budget of their state.
  4. 0
    11 September 2013 11: 48
    If only they were not demolished, the recharge from the C-300 is not fast.
  5. 0
    11 September 2013 11: 51
    This was stated by sources in the leadership of Hezbollah to the correspondent of the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Rai, reports PostSkriptum. - The source is a bit confusing. I would like to believe that this is not another duck ...
  6. +3
    11 September 2013 11: 51
    Chi e, chi no - the States will not give up their plans. Even if all experts prove that chemical weapons were used by the "opposition", that is, the bandits supplied and fed by the States. And even if Syria hands over its chemical weapons under UN control. It is necessary to bang Assad - they will bang. Everything according to the concepts of the States and their masters.
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  8. Alikovo
    +6
    11 September 2013 11: 53
    there’s still some kind of anxiety for Syria. Anglo-Saxons just do not lag behind her.
  9. Volkhov
    +2
    11 September 2013 11: 53
    If there is a S-300 then the Venezuelan ones - they did bring Pechora to Tartus, maybe the S-300, they have 2 BM divisions. Only the Russian Federation is not in the business. Fight systems.
  10. amp
    amp
    +1
    11 September 2013 11: 59
    Without the aviation component of Syria’s air defense it will still be incomplete. You need at least two hundred flashes 29 or su 27, then the Americans would have been given the heat .... The problem is that then we would have to deliver the aircraft together with the pilots.
    1. +2
      11 September 2013 13: 39
      Two hundred Mig 29 or Su27 will solve the problem without C300
      But where to get them with the pilots?
      In Russia itself, it is interesting to have so much in service?
  11. +11
    11 September 2013 11: 59
    Rumors and disinformation with a picture that the Serbs have a S-300 have postponed a blow to Yugoslavia. So here - maybe, or maybe not - daisy and only ... let the monsters guess. And the uncertainty in some issues, oh, how to sleep, some people get in the way. From lack of sleep, the probability of making wrong decisions increases))
    Putin said they are there, but they were not delivered in full ... silence is true that they did not deliver only 1 charging machine) The contract was not fulfilled ... and was delayed))
  12. +3
    11 September 2013 12: 11
    Anyway, the Americans slowly began to deflate. You look at the information about the presence of S-300 in Syria will generally cool their hot heads. What can not but rejoice!
  13. mogus
    +2
    11 September 2013 12: 16
    Postscript with reference to Hezbollah - iron arguments! : D
  14. poccinin
    +12
    11 September 2013 12: 16
    you can’t believe the West and ISRAEL. always cheated. cheat and will cheat. why no one makes noise about it. that Israel has nuclear weapons. and he did not sign any treaties.
    1. faraon
      0
      11 September 2013 15: 53
      So Israel does not shout about it on every corner, And at the same time it does not threaten anyone.
      Israel’s nuclear potential is not a weapon of attack, but only a deterrent to ardent Middle Eastern goals.
      Israel has nothing to lose if it has no choice, and this must also be taken into account
      1. +2
        11 September 2013 19: 13
        Oh well, they only say on the wreck that you need to bomb Syria like Assad used the ump
  15. Druid
    +7
    11 September 2013 12: 18
    Content - golem linden.
    About ISKANDER, in general laughter, how will Assad help the Americans? This is an OTRK with a range of 280 km in export performance.
    They test the magic words "S-300, Iskander" in tongues and write heresy.
  16. +2
    11 September 2013 12: 21
    Mobile high-precision operational-tactical missile system (OTRK) Iskander-E (SS-26)

    Those. that’s what can fly to Israel ... If that ...
    1. +1
      11 September 2013 12: 58
      The complex solves operational-tactical tasks, not strategic ones. The scanner can destroy the radar, command post, but you never know what else, but it does not solve strategic tasks.

      PS: I wasn’t minus one.
    2. +1
      12 September 2013 02: 51
      Syria has an Iranian counterpart to Iskander - Fateh-110

      For reference - parameters:

      Weight: 3450 kg
      Length: 8,86 m
      Diameter: 0,61 m
      Warhead: 500 kg
      Engine: single-stage, solid fuel
      Effective range: 300 km (latest)
      Speed: Mach 3,5
      CVO: 10 m
      Control System: Gyroscopic + GPS

      Israel covered a warehouse with these missiles belonging to Hezbollah in May:

  17. +8
    11 September 2013 12: 40
    S-300 is a strange thing - like it is ... but it is not there right away
    1. 0
      12 September 2013 16: 29
      - Do you see the gopher?
      - Not
      - And he is

      << DMB >>
  18. +2
    11 September 2013 12: 42
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: Samminosh
    But we can get a lot of trouble from the refusal to supply unmanned technologies to new equipment of all kinds of Georgia.

    Well, yes, otherwise they will not arm Georgia to please us.

    Absolutely ... After 2008, Israel did not cooperate in the military sphere with Georgia, at least officially and openly. As far as I understand, this was one of the points of the agreement on the refusal to supply S-300 to Iran.
  19. +4
    11 September 2013 12: 51
    Time won is the most important thing! I think Iran is urgently needed to arm (as Syria’s main ally), especially air defense systems, so that Syria is also covered. Here then you can play the Indians .. wassat
    1. +2
      11 September 2013 13: 33
      so that Syria is also covered

      What kind of systems are these? Where is Iran and where is Syria? Such only in a strongly inflamed head of the ensign exist today ...
    2. faraon
      -11
      11 September 2013 16: 01
      Let me argue dear. This is just what you do not need to arm Iran, it will not be able to help Syria with anything, but in secret it claims to the whole east of Russia, including the Central Asian republics.
      Does Russia need such a headache?
      1. +6
        11 September 2013 16: 24
        Quote: faraon
        but in secret, he claims to be in the entire east of Russia including the Central Asian republics.

        There are many who claim to be secret! China, for example, Turkey .... etc.
        1. faraon
          -5
          11 September 2013 16: 56
          But you must admit that China wants the whole Far East and Siberia (quiet expansion is already underway) and that something needs to be done and somehow solved.
          But Iran wants to have its own nuclear weapons and this is no longer a joke, but not a mediocre threat to Russia and the entire Central Asian region.
          So is it necessary to arm Iran so that later this weapon would be used against Russia itself.
          The ultra-east is a delicate matter and this option should not be discounted.
          1. jiz sibiri
            +7
            11 September 2013 17: 29
            But you must admit that China wants the whole Far East and Siberia (quiet expansion is already underway) and that something needs to be done and somehow solved.
            But Iran wants to have its own nuclear weapons and this is no longer a joke, but not a mediocre threat to Russia and the entire Central Asian region.
            So is it necessary to arm Iran so that later this weapon would be used against Russia itself.
            The ultra-east is a delicate matter and this option should not be discounted.


            here you are arming militants together with the us so that they ushat syria and Iran
            so you don’t fight with them yourself
            and then it’s easy for you to finish off all these fighters and everything will be good

            so we’re better armed Iran so that they wet you and if they fail, it will still be easier for us
          2. +3
            11 September 2013 21: 31
            Quote: faraon
            But Iran wants to have its own nuclear weapons and this is no longer a joke, but not a mediocre threat to Russia and the entire Central Asian region.


            If your overseas partners were not engaged in terrorism at the global level, ignoring the norms of international law, Iran would not have thought of a bomb. It turns out now only the possession of nuclear weapons can protect the country from tomahawks.

            Quote: faraon
            So is it necessary to arm Iran so that later this weapon would be used against Russia itself.

            It's funny to hear such a "translation of arrows" from Israel. How compassionate! belay So sincerely worried about Russia. Why's that?
            1. Arabist
              +1
              11 September 2013 21: 33
              Clearly not well-intentioned. And atomic weapons are indeed an indulgence for all sins.
            2. Marine One
              0
              17 September 2013 00: 58
              Quote: aviator_IAS
              It's funny to hear such a "translation of arrows" from Israel. How compassionate! belay They are so sincerely worried about Russia. Why's that?

              From the point of view of the ruling Ayatollah in Iran, you, I and the others are no different from the faithful Israeli Oleg Sokolov - Professor. You, I are exactly the same giaurs, enemies, nonhumans, infidels. Only more stupid, because helping with the nuclear program and going to sell modern weapons to the demoniac regime.
          3. +1
            11 September 2013 22: 03
            Quote: faraon
            (quiet expansion is already underway) and something needs to be done and something to be solved.

            Schaasss, right at the pike wishes of the Jews, we will begin to "solve"
          4. +2
            11 September 2013 22: 17
            About China I agree completely! But you do not think that Iran is creating nuclear weapons as opposed to Israel, which already has it!
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      3. jiz sibiri
        +1
        11 September 2013 17: 01
        Quote: faraon
        Let me argue dear. This is just what you do not need to arm Iran, it will not be able to help Syria with anything, but in secret it claims to the whole east of Russia, including the Central Asian republics.
        Does Russia need such a headache?

        we do not need nobody Syria is not Iran and even Israel and even more so

        the more you kill each other, the easier it will be for us to breathe

        oh yes even amerokosy are not needed

        all of them Khan is only a matter of time
      4. Voskepar
        +1
        11 September 2013 17: 02
        Dear, you confuse the Persians with your Turkish brothers.
        Quote: faraon
        Let me argue dear. This is just what you do not need to arm Iran, it will not be able to help Syria with anything, but in secret it claims to the whole east of Russia, including the Central Asian republics.
        Does Russia need such a headache?
    3. +2
      11 September 2013 18: 01
      belay Vitaly, open the map and see where Syria and Iran. Such air defense systems have not yet been invented.
  20. Alexander borey
    0
    11 September 2013 12: 54
    I will say in Putin's words: utter nonsense (article). They come up with loud names to attract readers and increase the rating. There is no S-300 in Syria. What kind of "postscript" is that? Is this a reputable source? Or were they personally shown "three hundred" cars in Syria? Such false, unverified speculations should not appear in print or media at all. negative
  21. Prishtina
    0
    11 September 2013 12: 56
    Something article how negative as if not fresh ...
    this is when Nathan with Cameron and Pirdogan .. then they flew to Russia .. 2-3 months ago ?!
  22. +2
    11 September 2013 12: 59
    If Syria has the S-300 or not, we can only find out when the American plane is shot down.
    1. -1
      11 September 2013 16: 46
      according to the Los Angeles Times, one flyer (Fu-22 Raptor) has already been shot down and landed on a baine in Jordan. Just in the same round, when allegedly "the training targets of the United States were hit by Israeli soldiers))))) so that the same LA Times, in addition to the deceased raptor, ranks four more" missing "after the launch of the tomagotchi in the Mediterranean Sea to the merits of the S-300 ( and speaking of tomahochi LS Times just talk about the S-400) in the hands of Assad.
  23. +7
    11 September 2013 13: 00
    I agree with GRDS: it is better to spread more rumors from different sources so that they would sit there at their headquarters and be nervous. By the way, there is information that an F-22 Raptor and four Tomahawks were shot down in Syria at the end of August, which is why they postponed their invasion of Syria.
  24. Alexander borey
    0
    11 September 2013 13: 11
    Quote: Sunjar
    By the way, there is information that an F-22 Raptor and four Tomahawks were shot down in Syria at the end of August, which is why they postponed their invasion of Syria.

    I immediately remembered the song of V. Vysotsky about rumors laughing
  25. +1
    11 September 2013 13: 18
    Quote: klimpopov
    But, despite this, a certain number of S-300 air defense systems are on the way.

    Is it on the way or is it in place? We lured speculation on the topic. Why publish arguments. There is C- 300 excellent! no - it is necessary to deliver. And grind the ground ...

    Syrian government forces have several S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems

    blurry again. Surely there is. The question is whether they know how to work for them and how many there are and whether there is a BC to them and so on ...

    It is necessary to publish, as this is one of the links in the information war. This will make the states nervous, draw up additional action plans, erode their efforts. Attacking a country with and without a modern air defense system is not the same thing. The acceptability of losses will be different, Obama is not far from impeachment, and in case of failure or too high losses, he is guaranteed.
    On the other hand, the rejection of strikes is a loss of face, so in any case, no matter what he does, everything will play against him. Putin well done beat him like a kid ...
  26. +3
    11 September 2013 13: 20
    ohh ... hezbolah said .... laughing
    it is strange that they did not mention the bloody Jews
  27. 0
    11 September 2013 13: 31
    It’s unfortunate that for now this is all
  28. +2
    11 September 2013 13: 41
    if the s-300 were in Syria, then no one would give the chemical weapons to the world community.
    1. 0
      11 September 2013 19: 53
      I think you're right. To give the only thing that amounted to parity in the fight against Israel. If this happens, then Israel already has complete superiority over all countries in the region.
      1. Arabist
        0
        11 September 2013 19: 59
        Lonely, I don’t think Assad would have applied it at all. It hardly had a decisive influence on parity. Rather, they took away the reason to strike today, but it takes time to come up with a new one.
        1. +2
          11 September 2013 22: 22
          Quote: Arabist
          Rather, they took away the reason to strike today, but it takes time to come up with a new one.


          This is undeniable. The blows have been postponed, but they are still on the agenda. I still do not share the great joy of this. It is still unknown what the Americans thought up.

          As for the use of chemical weapons, I’ll say this as long as he’s in the hands of Assad, his actions are unpredictable. He can also use it when striking, but maybe not. and without a chemical weapon, the amers will already know 100 pounds that Assad does not already have it. Here's the catch.
  29. +3
    11 September 2013 13: 53
    operating at speeds over 10000 km / h
    something that I was slightly overwhelmed, hypersonic things in service for a long time?
    1. +3
      11 September 2013 17: 44
      so it’s ~ 2.7 km / s or roughly 8M - the speed of a tactical ballistic missile warhead. those. The S-300 also functions as a theater theater missile defense.
  30. +6
    11 September 2013 14: 01
    And why should we think whether there is an S-300 in Syria or not? Let the Americans think. And theirs pilot will be "spectacular".
    1. sashka
      +1
      11 September 2013 14: 25
      Quote: VohaAhov
      And why should we think whether there is an S-300 in Syria or not? Let the Americans think. And theirs pilot will be "spectacular".

      But it's nice when the enemies are "afraid" or just afraid .. I like ..
      1. sashka
        +1
        11 September 2013 14: 49
        Quote: Sasha
        But it's nice when the enemies are "afraid" or just afraid .. I like ..

        I do not understand what kind of crap .. Admins. You violate my right to speak and speak out in a language that I understand .. And use words that the Constitutional Court has not forbidden. If the site is located in Germany, it’s not ... But I’m clear I’m talking to ushlopki ..
      2. 0
        11 September 2013 16: 50
        pity the pseudo-Americans, my friend! given the mental imbalance of the American soldier, who is dying in large numbers from suicide, they’re not so much to start kicking, they’ll begin to die on the way to Syria !!!
  31. 0
    11 September 2013 14: 23
    Good news! We also need to put ballistic missiles so that they reach the American fleet ...
  32. DmitryMSK
    +19
    11 September 2013 14: 25
    By the way, there was a rumor that there were Syrian officers in recent exercises in Ashuluk wink
    ps without amers, it’s very difficult for the hobits
    1. vaddag1
      0
      11 September 2013 16: 52
      Thanks for the video - neighing from the heart. Syrian comments? I didn’t know that they had normul with humor
    2. Vorkot cat
      0
      12 September 2013 13: 09
      One hundred were?

      S-300 stood with the Syrian flag
  33. +1
    11 September 2013 14: 36
    This information only confirms the words of the GDP that the S-300 contract has been partially implemented.
  34. +2
    11 September 2013 14: 42
    Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
    operating at speeds over 10000 km / h
    something that I was slightly overwhelmed, hypersonic things in service for a long time?

    I somehow somehow also did not understand this figure ..
    They would have written clearly in the TTX language of these systems ..
    The radial speed of the targets hit is up to 2800 m / s. You can immediately see how many swings m. at the goal ..
    With respect.. hi
    1. 0
      17 September 2013 19: 03
      The author, of course, zagnul. Apparently he made a mistake with "0" or is not on friendly terms with mathematics, I eat more than the performance characteristics of the C-300PMU2, even with the letter E, even on official sites. Therefore, I think that the article is somewhat provocative, and maybe customized. Look how many Jews are on the forum! "To be or not to be? That is the question" Yes, of course TO BE!laughing
  35. +1
    11 September 2013 15: 22
    Good news. Iskanders would not be a problem for Syria either. Still it would be possible to put a dozen "Tornado" and "Grad".
    1. Vityaz68
      0
      17 September 2013 10: 17
      HOORAY!! GOOD WEST.
  36. DmitryMSK
    +8
    11 September 2013 15: 25
    By the way. we completely forgot to congratulate our heroic lion!

    1. +7
      11 September 2013 18: 21
      Glory to the lion! Long life to Assad!
      1. +1
        11 September 2013 20: 20
        YES, there are still PRESIDENTS worthy of the love of their people! And God grant him, to remain for a long, long time on the difficult path of his people! They, such Heroes of the people, remain forever!
        P / S. And mine, PVV, is also smart!
  37. +6
    11 September 2013 16: 00
    Very good news, and I believe this to be true because it has been confirmed at various events. And that Bashar al-Assad said that Syria is the S300, President Putin denies, but I think both were telling the truth. In Syria, S300 only with Russian specialists and only they decide on their use. This confirms the information about the hacking of F22 and 4 Tomahawk. The second piece of information is Bashar al-Assad's statement that the attackers will be met with an "unpleasant surprise" that could mean the Iskander's retaliatory strike and the US tactical abandonment of the threat of attack (while Russia gives the US the opportunity to withdraw threats). All this makes the world a sigh of relief. Congratulations to Russia, Putin and the World around the World
  38. 0
    11 September 2013 16: 17
    This is chess! will there be a gambit?
    1. 0
      12 September 2013 08: 13
      This is chess! will there be a gambit?

      Barbecue of them will be

  39. Sadikoff
    0
    11 September 2013 16: 25
    Yes, in any case, Americans can launch up to a thousand hatchets - you can’t get enough rockets for them! Here you can break them with some kind of traps and amy weapons.
  40. chushoj
    0
    11 September 2013 16: 48
    The very name S-300 in Syria is, and no one is hiding it. But only the missile machine itself is a pile of metal. That is why the United States wants to broadcast live to humiliate Russian weapons. The main initiator of the war is not Abama (this is a doll that was taught to ask Congress). The main character is Israel, which wants to maintain a balance of power, that is, nuclear weapons against the S-200. It is acceptable and enjoyable.
  41. +2
    11 September 2013 17: 14
    Well, it’s clear with the Jews. God himself ordered the knives to them, or what is their ultrasound? are you mercenaries? sharpen the Arabs. But where the Saudis then climb. That’s why you definitely need to be foolish because it is Arabia with this stupid thing. And then a prince of some kind comes to the GDP to show off bashing, teaches politics. Ofigeli completely.
  42. 0
    11 September 2013 17: 35
    Nobody remembered the initiative to transfer chemical weapons in Syria under international control, but in vain. The presence of foreign specialists in Syria will cool the American fervor no worse, if not better, than the deployed and combat-ready S-300s. Naughty foreign controllers will be very fraught with serious complications. Our diplomats - multiple URA !!!
  43. -2
    11 September 2013 17: 35
    According to Hezbollah, a well-thought-out US-Israeli plan is being implemented around Syria.

    I do not believe in the meanness of Israel. It cannot be. Even according to the conversations of the Israelis on this and other sites, they will not allow and do everything possible to ensure that the party of war leaves power. Many of these comrades even refuse to work for Lieberman, despite threats from the Mossad. lol
    1. +3
      11 September 2013 20: 14
      Quote: Hedgehog
      I do not believe in the meanness of Israel. It cannot be. Even according to the conversations of the Israelis on this and other sites, they will not allow and do everything possible to ensure that the party of war leaves power. Many of these comrades even refuse to work for Lieberman, despite threats from the Mossad

      Have you noticed one feature?
      Around Israel, everything is on fire, around a revolution, but in Israel, everything is calm.
      So say that Israel does not have a plan .............
      1. +4
        11 September 2013 20: 43
        All "revolutions" in the Arab world are inspired by the international Jewish lobby. It also achieved the destruction of Iraq as a capable and united state. Now hitting Syria.
        Neither Gaddafi, nor Hussein, nor Ahmadinejad threatened the United States in any way. But they could threaten Israel. The Zionist lobby is striving to weaken the Arab world as much as possible. It’s easier for them to deal with current Iraq (or Libya) than with what it was before. Scattered and weakened Arab states torn by internal wars is Israel's dream. It is easier for him to deal with them than with strong Arab states.
        When you realize that US politics in the Middle East has a global Jewish lobby, then everything becomes clear... Absolutely everything, from start to finish. Including the fact that Al-Qaeda (a branch of the Saudi special services) often barks at Israel, but never does anything against it. And it is in tense relations with Israel's main enemies - the Palestinians, Syrians, Iranians.
        1. 0
          11 September 2013 20: 58
          You can’t insert your brains on them. They have been zombified for a long time
        2. -2
          11 September 2013 22: 02
          Quote: Sour
          Including the fact that Al-Qaeda (a branch of the Saudi special services) often barks at Israel, but never does anything against it. And it is in tense relations with Israel's main enemies - the Palestinians, Syrians, Iranians.

          Another homegrown strategist drew. Who do you think of Sinai shelling Isaril? Green pussy?

          Quote: Sour
          It’s easier for them to deal with current Iraq (or Libya) than with what it was before.

          Rave. One dictator is always easier to negotiate than with all this pack.
      2. 0
        11 September 2013 20: 46
        Quote: APASUS
        Have you noticed one feature?

        Of course I noticed. Israel is much worse off than all Arab countries combined. Plus Afghanistan in the same pile.
  44. 0
    11 September 2013 17: 59
    Typical information war. Now the Syrians say a lot of things in order to confuse, scare, buy time. Feels like an Iranian school.
    1. chushoj
      -1
      11 September 2013 18: 16
      So this is the most important thing. The strike is scheduled for 13-14, and Moscow will only be able to arrive at 17. Without Moscow, Panteleev will feel uncomfortable.
      You understand, confuse, this is adulthood.
      When two people watch an erotic film, both of them do not like it.
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/043/nbub378.jpg
      1. +1
        11 September 2013 19: 06
        Quote: chushoj
        Moscow will be able to arrive only 17

        Information for consideration, if such an ability is present!
        http://tvrain.ru/articles/krejser_moskva_voshel_v_sredizemnoe_more_-352038/
        http://www.newsru.com/world/10sep2013/obama.html
        1. 0
          11 September 2013 19: 08
          In the Arctic, the unique wiring of a detachment of ships of the Northern Fleet by four atomic icebreakers
          http://topwar.ru/33180-v-arktike-sovershena-unikalnaya-provodka-otryada-korabley
          -severnogo-flota-chetyrmya-atomnymi-ledokolami.html
      2. +1
        11 September 2013 21: 00
        It would be nice even in pure Russian
  45. +1
    11 September 2013 18: 52
    Sorry. Iskanderchiki would be there right now ...
  46. yacht
    0
    11 September 2013 19: 48
    I don’t understand why such disputes on Iskander-E? E - export option, that is, for sale to other countries, there are international bans on the export of missile weapons, which allows the delivery of complexes with a range of destruction of no more than 300 km. Russia has signed this agreement. So that, purely legally, there are no bans on the supply of such complexes in Syria, it’s another thing for the politician, Russia does not want to quarrel with Israel.
    On the S-300, too, everything is clear; they are delivered to Syria, but not in full and are not yet combat ready. But the question of completeness is very interesting, for example, complexes can be without missiles and this is not a set, but can be just without some kind of wire fuse, also not a set. laughing
  47. Vtel
    0
    11 September 2013 20: 38
    Even if there is no S-300 in Syria, then the crafty one from Israel and the USA, not counting their mongrel and roosters, is to say that maybe they are already there, as well as the S-400, Iskander, Tor-M2 and the jumping bomb - bluffs are also weapons who knows these mysterious savages from Russia.

    "WASHINGTON, September 11. Eight more countries joined on Tuesday to support US action on Syria bypassing the UN Security Council," the White House said.
    Georgia, Guatemala, Kuwait, Malta, Montenegro, Panama, Poland and Portugal joined in the statement.
    Recall, the day before the number of countries that signed the statement was 25. On Monday, Albania, Croatia, Denmark, Estonia, Germany, Honduras, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Morocco, Qatar, Romania and the United Arab Emirates joined the statement. Also, the document was signed by the authorities of Kosovo, which the United States recognizes as an independent state. "- and here are the mongrels and roosters, with a blue tint.
  48. Shellback
    +1
    11 September 2013 20: 59
    There are no S-300s in Syria
    1. jiz sibiri
      -1
      11 September 2013 21: 03
      papadamus yes?
  49. Shellback
    0
    11 September 2013 21: 24
    Quote: j iz sibiri
    papadamus yes?

    Karaganda
  50. +1
    11 September 2013 22: 02
    there was a time in the first half of the 80s ... when there were no s-200s in Syria, ..

    but 3 mattress planes (and even earlier a pair of drones with a six-pointed star) were taken off the air, and the aircraft carrier’s codpiece, just like all the personnel, was very messed up. spirit has fallen. One aircraft carrier, having pulled the codpiece crawled to Sicily, and the other at all to the port of registry, the Mediterranean was not very safe for the 6th fleet of mattresses. the spring was 86
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  52. 0
    11 September 2013 22: 42
    one article contradicts another, in one there is an S-300, in another the S-300 will be deployed in Syria no earlier than 2014.....I hope that they really are there
  53. 0
    11 September 2013 22: 42
    one article contradicts another, in one there is an S-300, in another the S-300 will be deployed in Syria no earlier than 2014.....I hope that they really are there
  54. +1
    12 September 2013 10: 05
    "so as not to provoke the West." This is completely beyond the bounds, don’t write like that, it’s stupid. Everyone knows that the West pursues its policy regardless of the absence or presence of provocations. As soon as required, he arranges them himself, any.
  55. Gur
    0
    16 September 2013 20: 30
    Tell me, during a naval battle with Georgia in 2008, one of the boats was shot down by an anti-aircraft missile. I wonder if the S-300 only shoots at air targets or what?
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      16 September 2013 20: 47
      Quote: Gur
      Tell me, during a naval battle with Georgia in 2008, one of the boats was shot down by an anti-aircraft missile. I wonder if the S-300 only shoots at air targets or what?

      Nothing Georgian was hit there; all Georgian boats were destroyed at the pier wall. This is such a sea battle.
      1. The Indian Joe
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        16 September 2013 23: 12
        Quote: Gur
        Tell me, during a naval battle with Georgia in 2008, one of the boats was shot down by an anti-aircraft missile. I wonder if the S-300 only shoots at air targets or what?
        - theoretically, the S-300 can also work against ground targets. But the Georgian boats were destroyed precisely by an anti-ship missile.

        Nothing Georgian was hit there; all Georgian boats were destroyed at the pier wall. This is such a sea battle.
        - That's it, you say?

        We read Wiki:
        On August 10, 2008, during the armed conflict in South Ossetia, the Mirage, as part of a detachment of 4 ships (large landing craft Caesar Kunnikov and Saratov, small missile cruiser Mirage, small ship Suzdalets) was in the area declared by Russia as a zone security. In the patrol area, 5 fast-moving sea targets were discovered that violated the border of the security zone and, without responding to warnings, approached the ships of the Black Sea Fleet.

        As a result of the fleeting naval battle, one target was hit: the Mirage missile launcher from a distance of 35 km, on the orders of the NVMB commander, fired a 2-missile salvo at Georgian boats approaching the attack position of the Russian detachment.
        . I got it, by the way.
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          17 September 2013 08: 00
          Quote: Injun Joe
          I got it, by the way.

          where did you end up?

          We read Wiki:

          don't read the wiki before eating... lol
      2. +1
        17 September 2013 14: 15
        Quote: professor
        all Georgian boats were destroyed at the pier wall. This is such a sea battle.

        It's a shame, it's a shame, right?
    2. 0
      17 September 2013 14: 13
      Quote: Gur
      or how
  56. +1
    16 September 2013 20: 54
    Quote: professor
    Nothing Georgian was hit there


    This is for you tie-eater did ssakashvili tell you?
    1. 0
      16 September 2013 21: 26
      Quote: Michael_59
      Did the tie-eating ssakashvili himself tell you this?

      These are the facts, dear. All Georgian watercraft were photographed after the war and these photos are available in the public domain. Question: who was sunk in this naval battle?
      1. 0
        16 September 2013 21: 57
        Lol lol
        Nobody took a photograph of the wrecked patrol boat (not at the pier), which means it never existed. wassat
        1. -2
          16 September 2013 21: 58
          Lol, the name of the boat and I’ll show you a photo of it after the war.
          1. The Indian Joe
            +1
            16 September 2013 23: 18
            Find me a post-war photo of the boat "Georgiy Toreli".
            1. Marine One
              0
              17 September 2013 00: 36
              Quote: Native American Joe
              Find me a post-war photo of the boat "Georgiy Toreli".


              The photo shows the P-21 "Toreli", which the source dates to 2010. At the same time, on my own behalf I can only add the testimony of a friend, an eyewitness, a member of the RDG, Lieutenant Colonel Lebed. He claimed that the entire “Georgian Navy” had gone to Poti, and the “Mirage” was only shooting at the fantasies of journalists from the TV company “Russia”.
              1. +1
                17 September 2013 10: 59
                Quote: Marine One
                and “Mirage” shot only at the fantasies of journalists from the “Russia” TV channel.

                What happened to the ship, whose tail number is “16”?
                http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C2%EE%E5%ED%ED%EE-%EC%EE%F0%F1%EA%E8%E5_%F1%E8%EB%
                FB_%C3%F0%F3%E7%E8%E8
                It looks like the author is lying here too?
                There is one little thing: ship locators do not show the names of approaching or oncoming ships. Especially over the horizon.
            2. 0
              17 September 2013 07: 57
              Quote: Injun Joe
              Find me a post-war photo of the boat "Georgiy Toreli".

              You to find?
              in 2009 year.
  57. Marine One
    +2
    17 September 2013 00: 38
    The photo seems to have come off.
  58. Vityaz68
    0
    17 September 2013 10: 15
    GOD PLEASE THIS IS TRUE!!
  59. 0
    17 September 2013 19: 27
    What prevents the Russian government from supplying Iskander-E for the defense of a Russian military base. Moreover, they are easy to disguise as ordinary Dots. This is even very necessary for the Russian military to evaluate the Israeli missile defense system, which is probably a prototype of the European missile defense project. Moreover, Israel did not hesitate to test the Russian missile defense system by testing its “target” ballistic missiles without warning. So why not a couple of disguised Iskanders destroy a couple of caravans with weapons in Syria near the border with Israel. And you can ensure that the missiles do not fall into the wrong hands by simply installing a small receiver of the required signal from a “Messenger” type satellite on the missile fuse. Any new weapons need to be tested, and the protracted war in Syria is simply a unique opportunity for Russia.
    I also have a question for the Jews who follow the forum. Why did Syria agree to sign the Chemical Weapons Convention, but everyone is silent about Israel? After all, Syria did not sign this Convention for many years precisely in response to Israel’s refusal to join it.

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