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The Syrian Question: Moscow’s Success on the Geopolitical Front

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The goal of this review is to go as far as unnecessary detail as possible, to give the most complete geopolitical picture of the events around Syria. Especially important (frankly, outstanding) today is Russia's diplomatic success related to the proposal for international control of chemical weapons in Syria, already supported by Damascus and highly appreciated by political scientists and analysts. There is even an opinion that comrade Putin rescues hapless Obama from the “Syrian trap”.




Russia's proposal to transfer Syrian chemical weapons under international control caused a huge stir among the world community. Barack Obama said that such a measure could be a breakthrough in the protracted conflict, reports Interfax.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov explained that the proposal was not a complete Russian initiative, but was born during Russian-American negotiations. At a joint press conference with Foreign Minister of Libya Muhammad Abdel-Aziz Lavrov said: “It grows from contacts that we had with our American colleagues from yesterday’s statement by John Kerry, who allowed the possibility of avoiding strikes if this problem is resolved.”

Since Russia, according to Comrade Lavrov, is always trying to use the slightest chance for a peaceful settlement, “we took advantage of the stay in Syria’s Foreign Minister Walid Muallem in Moscow to invite him to consider this opportunity.”

Currently, the Russian side is preparing a plan for putting the Syrian arsenal under international control.

As for official Damascus, he approved the initiative to transfer his chemical weapons under international control.

As transmits RIA News", Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said: “During our talks with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, he put forward an initiative related to chemical weapons. I listened carefully to his statement. In this regard, I declare that the Syrian Arab Republic welcomes the Russian initiative, based on the concern of the Syrian leadership about the lives of our citizens and security in our country. We are also confident of the wisdom of the Russian leadership, which is trying to prevent American aggression against our people. "

Later, Comrade Muallem added, Interfax notes that Damascus is ready to make public the location of the warehouses with toxic substances and show these objects to representatives of Russia, other states and the United Nations.

By the way, the Russian proposal has already been approved by UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

Concerning Syria, Barack Obama spoke on American TV last night. As expected, the president did not abandon his aggressive plans. Also, he did not put the slightest doubt that the Assad troops conducted Himatak 21 August.

As the correspondent ITAR-TASS Dmitry Zlodorev, Barack Obama, speaking with a televised address to the Americans, said that the US administration was confident that the Syrian government was responsible for the chemical attacks in the Damascus 21 region of August. Obama stated:

“No one disputes that chemical weapons were used in Syria. The world has seen thousands of videos and photos testifying to the attack. And humanitarian organizations have reported hospitals overflowing with people with symptoms of gas poisoning. ”


To this he added:

“Moreover, we know that the Assad regime is responsible. In the days before August 21, as we know, Assad’s supporters prepared for an attack in the area where they sprayed sarin gas. They distributed masks to their servicemen. They fired rockets from territories that were controlled by the regime in 11 suburbs, from where the regime tried to drive out opposition forces. ”


According to Obama, the United States "studied the blood and hair samples of people who were diagnosed with sarin poisoning."

He further said that the United States would study Russia's proposal to transfer the chemical weapons in Syria and will continue to consult with Moscow.



In addition, the president said: "If we do nothing, the Assad regime will have no reason to stop using chemical weapons." Obama is still seeking aggression. This is proved by the following words: “When a ban on chemical weapons is relaxed, other tyrants will have no reason to think twice before receiving poisonous gas and using it.” Obama added: "Over time, our troops may again face a chemical attack on the battlefield, and it may be easier for terrorists to acquire such weapons and use them against civilians." Well, and then Obama's speech turned to the traditional topic - Iran, without which the Syrian issue is incomplete and plunges the Israeli lobby in Washington into disheartened:

"Failure to combat the use of chemical weapons will lead to a relaxation of bans on other types of weapons of mass destruction and strengthen ally Assad - Iran, which must decide whether to ignore international norms and create nuclear weapons or go on a peaceful path."


Finally, there was a familiar argument: the United States does not attack, the United States defends itself. Obama is sure: Washington’s response to the use of chemical weapons in Syria "meets the interests of America’s national security":

"After careful study, I came to the conclusion that it is in the interests of the US national security to take retaliatory measures to use the chemical weapons by the Assad regime."


The retaliatory measures will be expressed in a “targeted military strike”. Obama explained:

"The result of this strike should be to deter Assad from the use of chemical weapons, reducing the ability of his regime to use these weapons."


The president promised that Washington would not send ground troops to Syria. "I know that after the terrible price we paid in Iraq and Afghanistan, the idea of ​​any military action, no matter how limited, will not be popular."

Further, the President of America stressed that "this will be a targeted strike aimed at solving the precise task of preventing the use of chemical weapons and reducing the capabilities of the Assad regime."

And then Obama stressed that

“Israel’s ally, Israel, can protect itself, also with unshakable support from the United States.”


About how the United States and other countries responded to the proposal of Sergei Lavrov to take international control of the Syrian chemical weapons, "Voice of Russia" Experts told Boris Dolgov, Vyacheslav Matuzov and Stanislav Tarasov.

Boris Dolgov, senior research fellow at the Institute of Oriental Studies, RAS, believes that the anti-Syrian policy of the United States has failed. A scientist does not think that senators in the United States will vote for a military solution. As for the negotiations on the proposal to control chemical weapons, they will be successful. This way is the most acceptable way out of the crisis. Moreover, Russia's proposal to control chemical weapons is “a way for America, for the leadership of the United States, to save face, to get out of this situation with the least moral losses. Of course, the lobby of the US military-industrial complex will defend the decision on military strikes. But at the moment, I think there will be no military strike on Syria. ”

As for the chemical weapons themselves, for example, Russia itself destroyed chemical weapons under international control. And other countries did the same.

The head of the Society for Friendship and Business Cooperation with Arab countries, Vyacheslav Matuzov said:

“I have been following the publication of the Russian position on the transfer of Syrian chemical weapons to the UN control. I spoke on five Arabic-speaking channels. This news was perceived in the Arab world by almost everyone as a sensation, as a powerful diplomatic breakthrough made by the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

I would say that in the Arab world there was not only a sigh of relief when they heard this news from Moscow, but also stormy and prolonged applause from all Arabs who were opposed to military action. Nobody wanted to fight in the Arab world, to destroy the Arab country. The fact that Russia found a way out of the impasse created by the United States was perceived absolutely correctly. ”


The expert added:

“I think this is a great success for Russian diplomacy. The main thing now is to bring the investigation into the chemical attack of the militants against the peaceful Syrian population to the end. The criminals who committed this inhuman act in order to draw America into the war on their side should be punished to the fullest extent of international law. ”


As for the initiative of Russia, the analyst here believes that “it seems that the Russian Foreign Ministry took the initiative without an agreement with the United States. As the saying goes, this initiative was taken "off the wheel", in stride, it had a phenomenal impact on the world community. " Eventually

“Americans were taken aback by the initiative of the Russian Foreign Ministry. I think that now it will be very difficult for them to continue on their way to escalating hostilities, to making a limited or unlimited strike. The Russian Foreign Ministry knocked the sword out of the hands of the American rider. "


However, the American strategy, the expert believes, "definitely will not be changed." Why? Here is the answer:

“It is based on geopolitical changes in the Middle East, new borders between states. They want to destroy everything and build new states on these fragments that are completely loyal to US policy. ”


The US line on reforming the Middle East will continue, but in a different form. Because of Russia. She says the scientist, "entered the diplomatic arena as a powerful state, not so much from a military point of view, but from a political and diplomatic point of view." Our country

“I showed that she is professionally head and shoulders above all American and Western diplomats, because she completely beat the Americans in this chess game.”


Stanislav Tarasov, director of the Middle East-Caucasus Center at the International Institute of the Newest States, notes that the Americans could not achieve the creation of a “traditional” scheme - a coalition invasion, bypassing the UN Security Council. The operation failed. Now, historians and political scientists will have to investigate what happened in Washington: why Obama found himself in a Syrian trap. After all, he refused to make an independent decision, "throwing everything to the Congress." The expert has the impression that Putin is helping Obama "get out of this situation."

After the Russian proposal and its assessment by the international community, the situation in the United States developed as follows.

Senate voting on the resolution authorizing a strike on Syria was postponed from Wednesday to a later date, reports "Russian newspaper" with reference to ITAR-TASS. This decision was made due to the fact that discussions about the use of chemical weapons in the SAR continue.

Previously it was expected that the Senate will vote on September 11, and the House of Representatives will do it next week.

About "pause" said Obama.

The US President explained to Washington the position of Washington on the Syrian issue in connection with the new initiative of Moscow.

“If the international community gets a verifiable and implementable mechanism for controlling chemical weapons in Syria, then I’m entirely for it,” they cite "Vesti", referring to ITAR-TASS, the words of the head of the White House.

Obama noted that he had already spoken about this with the President of Russia and instructed the State Secretary to continue the dialogue on this topic with the Russian side.

If Assad refuses chemical weapons, the attack on Syria will be put on an indefinitely long “pause”. International control over the stockpiles of chemical weapons in Syria will not solve the conflict in this country, but it will probably avoid military action, Obama assured. Obama also said he was ready to consider any opportunity to avoid military intervention.

Obama himself has not decided whether to use military force if Congress votes against the strike against Syria. An assessment of the situation, he said, will be given after the vote in Congress.

Everything is clear with Obama, but the American people and congressmen definitely do not support a blow to Syria. He writes about it Mixednews.ru with reference to Global Research.

Americans call and write letters to members of Congress, urging lawmakers not to agree to a military strike against Syria.

Republican Party member Jim McDermott writes: “Calls and emails from my voters make up one hundred to one AGAINST intervening in the affairs of Syria. The American people speak out. ”

Republican Elijah Cummings wrote that the topic of 99 percent of calls to him was a protest against the attack.

Another Republican, Andy Harris, points out: "Voters who contacted my office by phone or email speak out against actions in Syria in the ratio of 523 to 4."

Republican Tim Griffin tweets: “Within a week, 225 received letters about Syria on my site, and of all 255, only three were in support of military actions.”

Republican Alan Lovental received more than 653's emails, calls and social media posts. Only eleven comments were in favor of the attack.

Republican Justin Amash tweeted: “I talked a lot with members of our armed forces. What I heard all the time was: “Please vote against the military actions in Syria”. ”

Finally, a survey conducted by one of the most popular sites in America showed that the overwhelming majority of the country's population are against military action in Syria: 78 to 1.

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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 11 September 2013 10: 40
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    "Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov explained that the proposal is not entirely a Russian initiative, but was born in the course of Russian-American negotiations."

    But you don’t need to share gingerbread with a rabid dog, it will not be appreciated.
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 11 September 2013 10: 42
      19
      If Assad refuses chemical weapons, a blow to Syria will be put on an indefinitely long “pause”

      Which at least gives a gain in time, allowing, if not to finish off, then significantly weaken the gangster rabble inside the country, respectively, to prepare for a strike with their star-striped "roof".

      Just a wonderful move!
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 11 September 2013 10: 56
        57
        Quote: GreatRussia
        Just a wonderful move!


        here honestly gentlemen, take off my hat hi Putin-Lavrov-Churkin, this is the "golden trinity" in the foreign policy of Russia, that during the Ossetian-Georgian war, now in Syria, call me a hurray-patriot, but straight "grandmasters", epic force
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 11 September 2013 11: 41
          +1
          The Syrian question: Moscow's success on the geopolitical front ///// LISTEN, WELL, WHAT IS THE MANNER TO BE ENJOYED IN ADVANCE? WELL PAUSE. YES. BUT IN FACT "PLAY" CAN PRESS AT ANY MOMENT! QUESTION HOW MANY TIME YOU WIN?
          1. Retx
            Retx 11 September 2013 12: 16
            17
            If they play, they will kill themselves. Putin wiped Paul Obama, it's time to admit it as a fact.
            1. 2vladim2
              2vladim2 11 September 2013 19: 09
              +5
              Quite rightly said. Obama obeyed Putin. At least for a while. But this is good news!
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 11 September 2013 20: 34
                +7
                Quote: 2vladim2
                That's right. Obama obeyed Putin.

                Obama is already a political corpse, there’s no further time for him. Everyone understands the longer this whole body drags - Putin scores more points and Obama loses.
                At least he loses because posters with Putin are glued on the streets of Europe, although it was not realistic to imagine such a thing at least a year ago!
            2. Sandov
              Sandov 12 September 2013 13: 53
              +1
              Quote: RETX
              If they play, they will kill themselves. Putin wiped Paul Obama, it's time to admit it as a fact.


              Of course, our fellows delayed the attack of the monsters. To delay is not to stop. There is still a lot of work to achieve a final decision to abandon the amers from the war. Do not rest on your laurels.
          2. seller trucks
            seller trucks 11 September 2013 12: 51
            19
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            LISTEN TO WHAT FOR A MANNER TO ENCOURAGE IN ADVANCE?


            where did you see the delight? it's just respect how such news may not please. Battles unfolded on the Internet and in the media, de facto, we win, and the United States voluntarily climbed into a bucket of shit to the ears.
          3. Arti
            Arti 11 September 2013 15: 28
            +5
            There will be no war, at least in Syria.

            Ready to bet 1000 $ 1 / 0.5

            In my opinion, this is obvious, Russia defended Syria - the situation is such that the United States will lose much less if they refuse to strike, otherwise their fate is unenviable.
            War like in Iraq will not work - because None of the developed countries helped Iraq; more likely it will be more like Vietnam.
            1. 2vladim2
              2vladim2 11 September 2013 19: 13
              +5
              America, including Obama, understands where they can get involved. Let it be a fragile world, but it is peace. And then we'll see. Russia still has trump cards. But you can’t put them all out right away.
          4. andrey777
            andrey777 11 September 2013 16: 22
            +5
            Amer at any time can change their minds and attack. Such people do everything on the sly, so "you need to keep your ears open."
            1. 2vladim2
              2vladim2 11 September 2013 19: 14
              +1
              Hardly? They would have attacked. But they slowed down. They have brains.
          5. 2vladim2
            2vladim2 11 September 2013 19: 06
            +1
            You have to be optimistic. Everything should end well. America is in thought. Is it bad?
        2. pri3rak
          pri3rak 11 September 2013 12: 54
          +4
          Yes, it seems this time they beat ov
        3. 2vladim2
          2vladim2 11 September 2013 19: 04
          +1
          And yet they listen to the voice of Russia! Means "Respect". The only thing that a pause is taken is a small victory for Russia.
      2. Natalia
        Natalia 11 September 2013 11: 25
        +8
        Quote: GreatRussia
        Which at least gives a gain in time, allowing, if not to finish off, then significantly weaken the gangster rabble inside the country, respectively, to prepare for a strike with their star-striped "roof".

        So they will still bomb Syria, what’s good here ... as they said there:
        "The result of this strike should be to deter Assad from using chemical weapons, reducing the ability of his regime to use these weapons." Well, they will deliver point strikes, and where there are point strikes and not point strikes (as a result of civilian casualties), they will bomb for a week, and where there is a week there are three (the appetite comes with eating) ....
        And look what happens ... Syria will be disarmed (chemical weapons will be taken away) but they will still be bombed, as a result the "opposition" will be able to deploy normally, and then everything will be like in Libya ... No, if you take away chemical weapons, then no bombing ... ..
        And somehow, it all bothers me ....
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 11 September 2013 11: 42
          +9
          Let the United States bomb, they will look like fuckers in front of all peoples ... The excuse for "CHEMISTRY" is already not coming ... it will be necessary to come up with something new to hide your lie
          1. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 12 September 2013 03: 16
            +3
            Quote: Clever man
            Let the United States bomb, they will look like fuckers in front of all peoples ... The excuse for "CHEMISTRY" is already not coming ... it will be necessary to come up with something new to hide your lie


            This is the whole trouble. America is such a cesspool that they will find some other reason for the bombing. Do not forget that the next US president will most likely be Clinton, Hilary. Just the man who brewed this porridge. And the pig, as you know, will find dirt everywhere.

            The following chain can be traced: Syria does not have chemistry, in fact, there is no strategic deterrent against aggression. Turkey and Israel have anti-aircraft defense and an Alkaid wing - the United States. The bearded take and deliver an artillery strike at the checkpoint on the Turkish border and say through aljazira that it is Assad. Turkey in response mobilizes the Air Force and bomb Damascus, the third world war begins. Or, for example, another Israeli submarine strikes another military object in Syria and is drowned by the Syrians, but it’s even gouging on it, even samapotent. Israel declares aggression and, together with the US, begins to bomb all of Syria, what begins ?? Right third world ... etc

            So, there is practically no chance that Syria will be just released and allowed to grind all the bearded lads. Money invested indecently many. Now the endos will begin to prepare even more in detail the provocations. I think the next will be an artillery strike on Turkey and as evidence they will show a battery with people in the form of the Syrian army destroyed in the Syrian territory. Everything will be presented in such a way that Assad himself gave the order. I will not be surprised even if the text of the order is found. And no UN can stop NATO from attacking a country that hit a member of the alliance.
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 11 September 2013 11: 44
          +1
          The reason for the absence of Iskander OTR in Syria is believed to be President Putin's underestimation of the speed with which the United States began preparations to resolve the Syrian issue by force. GRANDMASTER "...
          1. Don
            Don 12 September 2013 10: 42
            0
            What is it? Where did you read this? Syria is not the Iskanders right now, but modern air defense systems.
        3. vadson
          vadson 11 September 2013 12: 01
          +2
          let's hope that Putin promised instead of chemical weapons to supply Syria s300 and other gingerbread cookies. he is not a stupid person. understands that you cannot leave Syria without protection. and so you look and won the time and wiped the shed of his nose ...
          1. RUS96
            RUS96 11 September 2013 13: 38
            10
            once again hinted to the Americans that they shouldn’t be dirty.
            1. pri3rak
              pri3rak 11 September 2013 14: 50
              +2
              Russia will deliver S-300 to Iran if the US strikes Syria
            2. RUS96
              RUS96 11 September 2013 20: 22
              +1
              http://t.co/YBc1CHZlqL
        4. pri3rak
          pri3rak 11 September 2013 14: 21
          +3
          Quote: Natalia
          So Syria will still be bombed

          It seems no longer. In this situation, Obama was helped to save face - that is, not to enter the military operations after all his demarches, in fact he gave the back one.
        5. matross
          matross 11 September 2013 16: 25
          +2
          Quote: Natalia
          .... Syria will be disarmed (chemical weapons will be taken away) but they will still be bombed, as a result the "opposition" will be able to deploy normally

          Do you think that Assad could use chemical. weapons in the fight against gangs of "opposition"? It doesn't seem like a suicide ...
          He did not refuse chemistry as opposed to Israeli nuclear weapons. But now it’s not up to the lyrics, we must fend off the threat that is more real.
        6. 2vladim2
          2vladim2 11 September 2013 19: 18
          +1
          Yes, do not be embarrassed. Until they bomb anyone, they will not. There is no unity in their camp. But Russia was still supported by other countries, even France.
        7. novobranets
          novobranets 11 September 2013 21: 20
          +2
          Chemical transfer weapons under international control is a very good move. GDP gave the Negro a chance to "turn back" without losing face, or rather its remnants. But he, like an enraged mongrel, caught and put in a cage, rushes and gnaws on the bars of this cage. Such dogs are put to sleep. The constant threat posed by the United States cannot remain unanswered. And I think the states will not like this answer at all. belay
        8. novobranets
          novobranets 11 September 2013 21: 50
          0
          Quote: Natalia
          No, if you take away chemical weapons then no bombing .....

          No one will take the chemistry from Syria, it will remain in its former place, but Assad, if he thinks to use these weapons, he will not be able to do this unnoticed, since control will reveal it immediately. Does he really need it?
      3. MG42
        MG42 11 September 2013 11: 45
        +7
        Quote: GreatRussia
        Just a wonderful move!

        Of course, this is the success of Russian diplomacy since the vote in Congress was precisely geared towards on September 11 and the chances were since this is the anniversary of the terrorist attacks in New York, the American hawks of the war would have pulled this issue .. now everything is postponed until next week at least Syria with the help of Russia bought time to prepare.
        The CCA has already condemned, the EU in the person of Commissioner Catherine Ashton welcomed this decision ..
        However, it’s too early to relax while significant forces of the Americans are at a strike distance.
      4. 222222
        222222 11 September 2013 12: 54
        +4
        "Just a wonderful move!" and if you look from the other side, from the side of Israel .. Syria's chemical weapons were a deterrent for Israel (with up to 200 nuclear devices and their means of delivery ...).
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 11 September 2013 13: 36
          +8
          Quote: 222222
          and if you look from the other side, from the side

          and if you look at it from a third party.
          Well, Assad will betray control of chemical weapons depots to the Russian military, they already have a blessing in Tartus, in this situation an attack on Syria could turn into an attack against Russian peacekeepers, and what the world is already following
        2. michajlo
          michajlo 11 September 2013 23: 58
          0
          222222 UA Today, 12:54 "Just a wonderful move!" and if you look from the other side, from the side of Israel .. Syria's chemical weapons were a deterrent for Israel (with up to 200 nuclear devices and their means of delivery ...).
          Good evening dear "nick"! Are you sure that its nuclear weapons, Israel is ready to use against the NEAREST neighbors (Syria, Jordan, etc.)?
          In my opinion, nuclear weapons would make sense against remote countries / opponents!
          Or is Israel's nuclear weapons just a "way to slam the lid on the coffin" behind them when their Arab neighbors finally win?
      5. Ejik_026
        Ejik_026 11 September 2013 13: 11
        +1
        It would be better to bring all the C-300 and missiles to them
        1. pri3rak
          pri3rak 11 September 2013 15: 12
          +1
          Now it’s hardly possible, but to deliver Iran is most likely the most likely option
      6. Arabist
        Arabist 11 September 2013 17: 01
        +1
        Who thinks how much time we won?
    2. SHILO
      SHILO 11 September 2013 10: 50
      14
      But you don’t need to share gingerbread with a rabid dog, it will not be appreciated.


      And then it's hard to share. They will bomb - there will be no victory in the GDP in your pocket.

      A timid bandit vs a cool peacemaker - this is history! With what striped and congratulations. lol
      1. vostok68
        vostok68 11 September 2013 16: 11
        0
        World peace! And let no one go offended! Somehow it turns out!
    3. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 11 September 2013 10: 50
      +8
      Yes, Amers crap one's pants. Well, they did not think that Vovka could go so far.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 11 September 2013 11: 01
        0
        There is no chance to prevent a blow. the United States will still bomb Syria and try to overthrow Assad. If he takes away chemical weapons from Assad, he will have nothing to answer and restrain the nuclear potential of Israel. So strikes are inevitable - the United States will do everything to take control of the region and expand the borders of Israel. And all attempts by Russia to avoid conflict are on the side of the United States and others. It's time to understand - the United States is not interested in anyone's opinion.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 11 September 2013 11: 14
          11
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          If he takes away chemical weapons from Assad, he will have nothing to answer and restrain the nuclear potential of Israel.

          "International control" is a very tricky term. It does not imply the immediate destruction of chemical weapons stockpiles, and this will not work out quickly for purely technological reasons. This is the creation of commissions, controllers, reports and calculations, resolutions and reports, as a result, this event is very time-consuming, which gives Assad a huge temporary head start, the opportunity to deal with the militants and the moral uplift of the entire people.
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 11 September 2013 11: 48
            0
            Quote: Vladimirets
            which gives Assad a huge temporary head start, the ability to deal with militants and the moral upsurge of the whole people.


            Obama clearly spoke out today - they will bomb and in the near future - there is no time. Yes, it was clear even without his speech. Regarding the procedure - in the know, to paint for anything, but there will be no lengthy procedure. No need to keep the United States for idiots. Not only will they bomb, but they will also try to pass a resolution through the UN Security Council and force Assad to abandon chemical weapons.
            1. ATATA
              ATATA 11 September 2013 12: 43
              +3
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              Obama made it clear today - they will bomb in the near future - there is no time

              I would like more details. hi
              1. 31231
                31231 11 September 2013 13: 11
                +1
                The young man is already behind the news line. And he does not know that Baran Hasidovich turned on the back. Question: for how long?
                1. Ruslan_F38
                  Ruslan_F38 11 September 2013 13: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: 31231
                  The young man is already behind the news line. And he does not know that Baran Hasidovich turned on the back. Question: for how long?

                  Thanks for the young of course. He didn’t lag behind the tape, we are quoted in isolation from the context, the monkey said that she did not refuse attacks on Syria, but only postponed, in the morning it was completely. But for a long time - I think not, as soon as they can’t agree on chemical weapons, and it will be so, or another provocation will not happen - they will start right away.
                2. Ascetic
                  Ascetic 11 September 2013 14: 24
                  10
                  Quote: 31231
                  The young man is already behind the news line. And he does not know that Baran Hasidovich turned on the back. Question: for how long?


                  Johnny, even if I attack the Syria,
                  Yes, calm down, Baran, I did this a hundred times in Vietnam ... until they shot down.
                  Our America laughing
                  1. 31231
                    31231 11 September 2013 14: 46
                    +3
                    Didn’t watch yesterday’s meeting ?! It was surprising that not only the Republicans pressed Kerry, Hagel and Dempsey, but the Democrats also stuttered the uselessness of aggression.
                    Kerry ass crawled and knuckles constantly wrinkled from pressure. Hagel as it is little touched. But Dempsey seemed to me to feel guilty for everything that was happening and quietly disagreeing with Obama's decision. But he is a servant and he has an order, and this can be understood.
                3. novobranets
                  novobranets 11 September 2013 21: 32
                  +2
                  Quote: 31231
                  Question: for how long?

                  The heavy flywheel of the striped military machine is untwisted. To stop it, serious efforts will be required. Transferring chemistry under international control will delay the attack for a short time, but will not stop it. The United States does not want to listen to the voice of reason, manic trends are visible, something serious should happen so that they have no doubt that a blow to Syria could ricochet in the opposite direction . fool
                  1. 31231
                    31231 11 September 2013 23: 05
                    +3
                    For the future I will tell you and those who read it. The United States is not Baran Hasidovich + his wards, as well as their puppeteers. There are healthy people in the USA and many of the vegetables there have seen their sight. Even the unspoken censorship of the media could not stop it.

                    So when you speak for US foreign policy, write "US leadership" if possible.
              2. Ruslan_F38
                Ruslan_F38 11 September 2013 13: 55
                0
                Quote: ATATA
                I would like more details.


                Sorry dear, "young man" below answered hi
            2. alex-pav
              alex-pav 11 September 2013 14: 11
              +2
              And after the adoption of the resolution, a rocket with some kind of chemistry will fly to Israel from the territory "controlled by Assad", and that's all. It will be possible to legally bomb as many as necessary. And then no one will say anything.
              All this looks like Israel’s cunning plan, Kerry accidentally mentioned the possibility of not striking in exchange for control of chemical weapons, and the whole world immediately picked up this idea. And then the question is, didn’t we fall into a pre-planned trap, or was they just waiting for this? (Lavrov answered too quickly, and forced the Syrians to agree to these conditions).
              1. novobranets
                novobranets 11 September 2013 21: 44
                +2
                Quote: alex-pav
                And then the question is, didn’t we fall into a pre-planned trap, or was they just waiting for this?

                It seems to me that just the opposite, Kerry (something like a dog), gradually encouraged to make such a statement. It is important that the initiative came from a striped corner, Russia and Syria agreed to it. Now, if the United States continues its policy of aggression, it will expose itself in an idiotic position and add another brick to the wall that has been erected around itself for a long time, and which will eventually become their prison. yes
            3. pri3rak
              pri3rak 11 September 2013 15: 25
              0
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              Obama made it clear today - to bomb


              Obama suggested that Congress postpone the issue of military invasion, what am I doing, oh yes amid growing protests in the United States and Congressional support is also in question. What is the point of him getting involved right now? Get the bumps? So already picked up
        2. aviator_IAS
          aviator_IAS 11 September 2013 11: 58
          0
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          There is no chance to prevent a blow. the United States will still bomb Syria and try to overthrow Assad. If he takes away chemical weapons from Assad, he will have nothing to answer and restrain the nuclear potential of Israel. So strikes are inevitable - the United States will do everything to take control of the region and expand the borders of Israel. And all attempts by Russia to avoid conflict are on the side of the United States and others. It's time to understand - the United States is not interested in anyone's opinion.


          In any case, chemical weapons as well as nuclear weapons of those that you can’t fight. Unless, of course, a politician is sane, and not yesterday’s cannibal. The problems with such weapons are a wagon and a small cart. In this region, it was not WMD that served as deterrence, but a fragile balance of forces and unwillingness to engage in another major confrontation. WMD remained as the most extreme argument when the rest were exhausted. Israel itself would hardly be the first to use nuclear weapons. It’s already not 1945, and they wouldn’t get away with it. So the decision to transfer chemical weapons under international control is absolutely correct. We Syria will compensate for the absence of chemical weapons by conventional weapons. Now we need to buy time. And there you look and the investigation of the gas attack will advance, or the militants will get something else - after all, rams fool . Only now it is necessary to immediately cover chemical depots with air defense, and possibly by UN forces. Amerikos reptiles are so insidious that they can strike right after Assad unveils the placement of XO warehouses.
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 11 September 2013 14: 04
            -2
            Quote: aviator_IAS
            We Syria will compensate for the absence of chemical weapons by conventional weapons. Now we need to buy time. And there you look, and the gas attack investigation will advance, or the militants will get something else - rams are fool. Only now it is necessary to immediately cover chemical depots with air defense, and possibly by UN forces. Amerikos reptiles are so insidious that they can strike right after Assad unveils the placement of XO warehouses.


            Do not hesitate to hit - it is a matter of time until 2020 until Russia creates a powerful army and stuffs Syria with weapons, they won’t wait - I assure you.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 11 September 2013 18: 49
              +2
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              Hit no doubt - a matter of time

              Ruslan, is inclined to agree with you.
              A predator can only be stopped by breaking its bones.
              In the meantime, he received only a click on his nose.
              It is clear that the United States is implementing a long-standing plan of action, the starting point of which, apparently, should be considered Iraq.
              Too much money and effort has been expended, and either a high probability of a military defeat or a consolidated rebuff to the world community can stop them.
              So far, unfortunately, neither one nor the other has been observed.

              What step they will take can only be guessed.
              But there is no doubt that the United States will find a reason to launch an attack.
              There are many options, ranging from provocations to grossly fabricated fakes.
        3. Tersky
          Tersky 11 September 2013 12: 24
          +9
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          There is no chance to prevent a blow. the United States will still bomb Syria and try to overthrow Assad.

          This is just a chance for Obama to move away from the point of no return, and he will use it in order to save the "face" of both his own and the United States.
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          and expand the borders of Israel

          This is something new in international practice .. don’t explain the procedure
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 11 September 2013 13: 28
            0
            Quote: Tersky
            This is just a chance for Obama to move away from the point of no return, and he will use it in order to save the "face" of both his own and the United States.

            God grant that you would be right. I'm all for it.
            Just think he will use it? I do not think so, if only until the next provocation. Let's wait - time will tell. Do not forget the United States one goal to destroy or take control of Syria and Iran, using this chance the United States will achieve these goals? Unless they try to deprive Assad of chemical weapons.
            This is something new in international practice .. don’t explain the procedure

            Yes, you yourself know it - an example of the construction of settlements on Palestinian territory, and indeed the occupation of Palestine. The world community could have done a lot to stop this seizure of territories and who is the master there? As soon as the United States frees Syria from chemical weapons, overthrows Assad, plunges the country into chaos, someone will need to control the region and this will be Israel. I hope you will not argue that the main objectives of Israel are to expand its territories at the expense of neighboring states and control over the region? Or did Israel run to the UN to get permission from the world community to build their settlements on the land of Palestine?
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 11 September 2013 14: 15
              +1
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              Just think he will use it? I do not think so, if only until the next provocation.

              This is the only door for Obama and the United States to leave the room where a global fire could catch fire.
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              As soon as the United States relieves Syria of chemical weapons, overthrows Assad, plunges the country into chaos, someone will need to control the region and this will be Israel.
              If all the unfavorable forecasts for the intervention in Syria come true (God forbid), the next object of close attention of the US and Co. will be Iran, the reason is simple, for the Saudis it is like a bone in the throat with its alleged nuclear weapons. Who needs such a competitor to advance their economic goals? And now name those who are sponsored by the same Saudis, and who are sponsored enemy number 1. Israel will simply merge states, they will no longer need it, control will be entrusted to the "Great Caliphate". And this is precisely the next provocation of the United States, which is already being implemented through color revolutions.
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              As soon as the United States will save Syria from chemical weapons
              This is not about destruction, (disposal), or transfer of chemical weapons to another state (who will take the headache on themselves), but about international control of the chemical weapons of Syria and the signing of a document on the non-distribution of weapons of mass destruction.
              1. Ruslan_F38
                Ruslan_F38 11 September 2013 14: 52
                0
                Quote: Tersky
                This is the only door for Obama and the United States to leave the room where a global fire could catch fire.


                The world fire is in the hands of the United States, another thing is that they may not have fully calculated the consequences of this fire.

                And now name those who are sponsored by the same Saudis, and who are sponsored enemy number 1. Israel will simply merge states, they will no longer need it, control will be entrusted to the "Great Caliphate". And this is precisely the next provocation of the United States, which is already being implemented through color revolutions.


                I am skeptical about the scenario in which all actions are aimed at draining Israel - it is sad to admit it - Arabs are more corrupt and unpredictable than Israelis. I do not think that the United States will give the region at the mercy of the Arabs plum Israel. USA and there is a big Israel do not forget about it.
                This is not about destruction, (disposal), or transfer of chemical weapons to another state (who will take the headache on themselves), but about international control of the chemical weapons of Syria and the signing of a document on the non-distribution of weapons of mass destruction.
                - Do you really believe that the United States will give the UN, Russia, and generally the international community to take control of chemical weapons? I don’t think when the United States listened to the opinion of the world community? The United States must precisely rid Syria of weapons and not allow control over it.
              2. novobranets
                novobranets 11 September 2013 22: 01
                +1
                Quote: Tersky
                This is the only door for Obama and the United States to leave the room where a global fire could catch fire.

                Do you think that those who pull the strings will let him go out? repeat
        4. 31231
          31231 11 September 2013 13: 09
          +7
          And that Assad’s chemistry held back Israel and the US? Yes, for an attempt to use it, Syria would be razed to the ground.

          The USA, Israel, Turkey and the Persian monarchies are holding back the help of Iran, Russia and partly China.

          But it seems to me that this is not the final yet. There will be exclamations "Assad has not surrendered the entire chemical arsenal" and there will be chemical provocations. But time is won. And it benefits Syria.
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 11 September 2013 13: 41
            +1
            Quote: 31231
            And that Assad’s chemistry held back Israel and the US? Yes, for an attempt to use it, Syria would be razed to the ground.

            And what not?
            One of the main goals of the war unleashed against Syria was the elimination of its chemical weapons, since only it was Israel’s last deterrent in the region. This is written by Mikhail Osherov in the article "Syrian chemical weapons - a deterrence factor for Israel", published on the website of IA REX.
            Thus, the United States and Israel, without actually doing anything, achieved this goal for free, and with the wrong hands - the hands of Syrian bandits and international terrorists.
            This is a bit like a famous joke about how an American and a Russian tried to make a cat eat mustard. The Russian won the joke by spreading mustard on the cat's causal places, which she began to lick herself with a rumbling. “See how she eats mustard,” said the Russian. “Voluntarily and with songs.” In life, Syria and Russia are now voluntarily and with songs destroying the Syrian deterrence factor in the region.
            Syrian chemical weapons do not threaten the United States of America. Syria has no means of delivering it to the United States. The only country threatened by Syrian chemical weapons is Israel. Pay attention to how quickly the US leadership changed its attitude towards Syria as soon as it came to Syrian chemical weapons. Have you watched the film “The tail rotates the dog”? Who rules the United States of America now? Whose interests does her leadership serve?
            After the destruction of Syrian chemical weapons in one form or another under international control, the strategic balance in the region will be violated.
            Israel is not going to force anyone to destroy its atomic weapons yet.
            The destruction by Syria of chemical weapons or placing them under international control means the destruction of Israel’s last deterrent in the region and opens the door for Israel to attack Iran.http://n-idea.am/ru/comments.php?id=34698
            1. faraon
              faraon 11 September 2013 14: 42
              -2
              Israel is not going to force anyone to destroy its atomic weapons yet.
              The destruction by Syria of chemical weapons or placing them under international control means the destruction of the last factor that restrains Israel in the region and opens the way for Israel to attack Iran

              Yes, there is one but !!!
              Israel, no one is threatened by anyone like Iran, Syria does, It does not seek hegemony in the region. Moreover, it maintains neutrality in this conflict.
              Israel’s nuclear potential is only a deterrent to its Middle Eastern neighbors.
              As for Iran, no one objects to the construction of nuclear power plants, the question is different again. The policies pursued by former President Ahmadinejad did not quite comply with the policies adopted throughout the world, constant threats, arms buildup, constant desire for gigemony throughout Central Asia and the Middle East the region, support for terrorist groups is not entirely appropriate for a country seeking to gain nuclear potential.
              1. j iz sibiri
                j iz sibiri 11 September 2013 21: 29
                0
                Israel is not going to force anyone to destroy its atomic weapons yet.
                The destruction by Syria of chemical weapons or placing them under international control means the destruction of the last factor that restrains Israel in the region and opens the way for Israel to attack Iran

                Yes, there is one but !!!
                Israel, no one is threatened by anyone like Iran, Syria does, It does not seek hegemony in the region. Moreover, it maintains neutrality in this conflict.
                Israel’s nuclear potential is only a deterrent to its Middle Eastern neighbors.
                As for Iran, no one objects to the construction of nuclear power plants, the question is different again. The policies pursued by former President Ahmadinejad did not quite comply with the policies adopted throughout the world, constant threats, arms buildup, constant desire for gigemony throughout Central Asia and the Middle East the region, support for terrorist groups is not entirely appropriate for a country seeking to gain nuclear potential.



                we are just waiting for you to begin a ground operation against Syria and Iran
                1. atalef
                  atalef 11 September 2013 21: 37
                  -1
                  Quote: j iz sibiri
                  we are just waiting for you to begin a ground operation against Syria and Iran

                  Syria just didn’t go anywhere, but about Iran - to begin with, listen to the teacher in a geography lesson, and not go to the carts, and then you will probably be surprised to find that there are 2000 kilometers and two states between us and Iran. By the way, a small bonus for you, so that your brains do not boil from the first pages of the atlas-coloring book by geography. Syria and Iran also do not have a common border laughing
                  1. j iz sibiri
                    j iz sibiri 11 September 2013 21: 50
                    +1
                    oh yes you are capable of anything and 2000 km you are far from an obstacle (especially since the amers are afraid) you can only

                    and say yourself there are no boundaries smile
              2. Don
                Don 12 September 2013 12: 31
                +1
                Quote: faraon
                Yes, there is one but !!!
                Israel, no one is threatened by anyone like Iran, Syria,

                Well, you’re just soft and fluffy.) To begin with, Iran does not have nuclear weapons, and Syria did not threaten you with its chemical weapons.
                Quote: faraon
                even more than that, he is neutral in this conflict.

                Do you call this neutrality? Israel has several times launched air strikes across Syria, violating all international law.
                Quote: faraon
                The policies pursued by former President Ahmadinejad did not quite correspond to the policies adopted throughout the world, constant threats, arms buildup

                What should Iran do? Do not build up weapons? By your logic, you have been building up weapons for years, but they cannot. The neighboring hostile, medieval radical Muslims of Saudi Arabia are building up arms, but they can’t? They are forced to do this. And to build up arms in the law of any state, this policy just corresponds to international law and trends. As for threats, I think you yourself understand. With these threats, Iran wants to rally the Islamic world around itself. Turkey is also doing something similar now.
                Quote: faraon
                constant aspiration for gigemony in the whole Central Asian and Middle Eastern region

                So the United States can strive for world hegemony, and Iran can not?
                Quote: faraon
                support for terrorist groups is not entirely appropriate for a country seeking nuclear potential.

                Which for example? Hezbollah? So it is only you and a number of states that consider it terrorist, and not the whole world. Only here you do not need to make saints of yourself. Who interestingly contains the separatists of Balochistan and the Kurds in Iran? Incidentally not the USA and you?
            2. 31231
              31231 11 September 2013 14: 51
              0
              The chemistry of Saddam kept someone from aggression in 2003 ?! Even in the Iran-Iraq conflict, the situation was not particularly affected.
            3. Fedych
              Fedych 11 September 2013 19: 36
              +1
              Actually, it’s written well and with meaning. What is Syria before the rest of the world, in many respects spitting and not noticing it. Israel? - not just a country, geography and neighbor live in a hostel. You need to have the greatest history, dignity, patrons, so that t. country to confront. This, if pleasing all the same, is the opposition of the Old Testament and its beliefs and the New, both from Jesus the Lord and regionally meaningful, conscious, and accepted from the followers of the religion of Islam. Therefore, any conflict in that region will always be the sum, the result, the component of the struggle of all these 3 possibilities and realities, exacerbated by the complex component of the mystery of the real forces behind it all. Although, there are only two of them in their purity and real power - light and darkness. Russia, as an external ideologist, is undoubtedly light. But as a real urgency in itself and in itself, something dubious for itself at the moment. Here is such a difficult game of sleep with sleep sleepy Spirit
            4. Don
              Don 12 September 2013 12: 12
              0
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              One of the main goals of the war unleashed against Syria was the elimination of its chemical weapons, since only it was Israel’s last deterrent in the region. This is written by Mikhail Osherov in the article "Syrian chemical weapons - a deterrence factor for Israel"

              Who knows what writes. This is a personal opinion of Osherov. How could Syria's chemical weapons harm Israel? In Israel, gas masks are distributed at every corner and a strong missile defense. There are almost no chances to strike at Israel, but the retaliatory strike of the USA and Israel will destroy Assad. So what's the point of this chemical weapon?
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              In life, Syria and Russia are now voluntarily and with songs destroying the Syrian deterrence factor in the region.

              Nobody is going to destroy anything, but they are going to establish control and no chemical weapons are a deterrent. The nuclear weapons of the USSR were a deterrent to the United States; they did not start this third world war. And how can the chemical weapons of Syria be a deterrent if Israel has already applied air strikes in Syria 3 times ?!
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              Pay attention to how quickly the US leadership changed its attitude towards Syria as soon as it came to Syrian chemical weapons.

              It was forced to do so. Obama has neither international support nor support for his own people. Under such circumstances, Obama does not want to start a war, all the same, he is not Bush and does not want to wave his saber much. A politician who associates himself as a peacekeeper who went to the polls with slogans about the withdrawal of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan cannot start a war. He wants to get out of the situation with a decent view. On the one hand, it seemed as if he had crossed the red line and he, as promised (otherwise no one in the world would take him seriously), was about to strike, on the other hand, as soon as he was offered a way out of the situation, he immediately agreed, it seems like we don’t want to fight and we can go to such conditions. Just today I watched on Euronews the rhetoric of Obama, Cameron, Holland before the proposal of the Russian Federation and immediately showed the current rhetoric.
          2. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 11 September 2013 13: 55
            +1
            Quote: 31231
            The USA, Israel, Turkey and the Persian monarchies are holding back the help of Iran, Russia and partly China.


            Constrains of course, who would argue.

            But it seems to me that this is not the final yet. There will be exclamations "Assad has not surrendered the entire chemical arsenal" and there will be chemical provocations. But time is won. And it benefits Syria.
            - it seems to you? Certainly not the finale. Is time won? How much has been won? Let's see - time will tell. Since everyone here is so militant and considers diplomatic efforts Russia is practically a victory - I will not argue - we will wait and see. But the Russian fleet is really holding back aggression.
            1. Odysseus
              Odysseus 11 September 2013 16: 16
              +1
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              Since everyone here is so militant and considers diplomatic efforts Russia is practically a victory - I will not argue - we will wait and see.

              No, you are absolutely right, the voluntary transfer of chemical weapons under "international control" is exactly what the United States needs. At the same time, they achieve their goal without any war, and at the same time do not give anyone any guarantees.
              It's hard to call this "good news".
              The only plus from this is that there may be a small reserve of time for the actions of the Syrian government.
        5. Maks-80
          Maks-80 11 September 2013 19: 06
          +2
          After the destruction of chemical weapons in Syria, Russia may become the guarantor of its security against external attacks. Moreover, we are not going to leave from there.
    4. viruskvartirus
      viruskvartirus 11 September 2013 10: 58
      +8
      And what to share? Lavrov caught Kerry by the tongue, caught on the usual Amerian balabolstvo. Kerry tried to otmazatsya, like not understood, but late, the word is not a sparrow. By the way, the Syrians will not be able to take advantage of the tomahawks, their chemical weapons will be protected at the expense of others.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 11 September 2013 11: 55
        -4
        Quote: viruskvartirus
        And what to share? Lavrov caught Kerry by the tongue, caught on the usual Amerian balabolstvo. Kerry tried to otmazatsya, like not understood, but late, the word is not a sparrow. By the way, the Syrians will not be able to take advantage of the tomahawks, their chemical weapons will be protected at the expense of others.


        Well caught and what's next? Maybe he’ll put it on the counter? Russia is not a decree for the United States; there is no need to harbor illusions. The only deterrent to the United States is our fleet and the opinion of the Americans themselves, and of the congress. And the tomahawks will fly and fly in the near future. Is that Assad will give up power, but he is a patriot and apparently will die on his land with his people.
        1. Retx
          Retx 11 September 2013 12: 27
          +5
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          The only deterrent for the usa is our fleet

          No, the Russia-China currency union.
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 11 September 2013 14: 06
            0
            Quote: RETX
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            The only deterrent for the usa is our fleet

            No, the Russia-China currency union.


            This is not a fact in this situation, but a fact. But our fleet is precisely a factor.
        2. viruskvartirus
          viruskvartirus 11 September 2013 15: 52
          -1
          Well, this time no one really burns with the desire to support amers. Even the first allies of the Great Shave dissociated themselves. To attack Syria and carry out an operation that is questionable in terms of effectiveness (well, they’ll fire at Syria) without the sanction of the UN Council, without the approval of even a simple majority of countries, while it is a dubious undertaking to reduce military spending. It is not clear why to break international agreements why%) therefore the framework has seized upon this idea.
    5. ATATA
      ATATA 11 September 2013 12: 32
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirets
      "Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov explained that the proposal is not entirely a Russian initiative, but was born in the course of Russian-American negotiations."

      But you don’t need to share gingerbread with a rabid dog, it will not be appreciated.

      It is necessary for them (USA) to sweeten the pill, and then they dipped their face directly into the mud and turned right and left.
      No need to humiliate the vanquished.
    6. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 11 September 2013 13: 32
      +2
      Quote: Vladimirets
      But you don’t need to share gingerbread cookies with a mad dog, she will not appreciate

      so the masimka has already said that it’s all purely specifically their merit, and Russia finally decided to join the world community
    7. VasDA
      VasDA 11 September 2013 14: 05
      +5
      No, no, no ... It's you for nothing ... True ... A very subtle psychological move!
      Let’s, for comparison, go down to the household level. smile
      A wise wife will not put pressure on her husband, but will pause and make her idea of ​​one or another change in the house look like the idea of ​​her husband ... Catch? smile The husband’s pride is safe, the wife is happy ...
      The only BUT ... It seems that Russia acted as a wise wife, but it looks like we turned out to be a husband. for, in the CURRENT moment, we have the USA ...
      ------
      This is a purely SUBJECTIVE opinion.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 11 September 2013 14: 19
        +1
        For: ATATA, Terskiy, viruskvartirus, 31231 and others who believe in the power of diplomacy - "However, the US State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said: The US is skeptical that the Syrian president will transfer chemical weapons arsenals under the control of the international community," the channel reports. RT "with reference to ITAR-TASS.
        “We do not want this to be some kind of tactical device for dragging out time from Syria and Russia,” said Harf. According to her, the new proposal was received "against the background of a real threat" from the United States, and therefore "the Congress should all the more urgently authorize the use of force" proposed by Obama.
        Barack Obama also spoke about Syria last night on American TV. As one would expect, the President has by no means abandoned his aggressive plans. " http://topwar.ru/33194-geopoliticheskaya-mozaika-rossiya-sdelala-predlozhenie-po
        -siriyskomu-himoruzhiyu-ot-kotorogo-vashington-ne-smozhet-otkazatsya-av-latvii-
        zatoskovali-po-nemeckomu-sapogu.html
        hi
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 11 September 2013 14: 24
        +3
        Quote: VasDA
        but it looks like we turned out to be a husband. for, in the CURRENT moment, we have the USA ...

        Some women they are, with them you will not immediately understand who has whom. wink
      3. RUS96
        RUS96 11 September 2013 16: 21
        +1
        laughing laughing laughing Precisely noticed!
    8. Gregazov
      Gregazov 11 September 2013 17: 01
      +1
      Gingerbread cookies are not necessary, but here is the responsibility - why not share.
    9. Sadikoff
      Sadikoff 11 September 2013 17: 02
      0
      The presidents of the United States and Russia are not enemies, maybe not partners, but colleagues. Are they God, are they life, the shady people set tasks that they should fulfill to the best of their ability. And the wiser will try to fulfill his task and help his colleague.
    10. little man
      little man 11 September 2013 21: 35
      0
      Lavrov, of course, great respect and respect. In any further scenario.
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  3. maxbrov74
    maxbrov74 11 September 2013 10: 43
    +3
    The states always lie. Having lost the chemical. weapons Syria will lose at least a small, but the opportunity for any blow of retaliation, on the same extremely "peace-loving" Israel. And it will finally untie the hands of potential aggressors. No one is stopping the American Secretary of State from shaking again wherever, what kind of test tube and referring to "irrefutable evidence" ...
    1. viruskvartirus
      viruskvartirus 11 September 2013 11: 40
      +2
      Chemical weapons specific thing from him suffer primarily not the military but the civilian population. The question is whether such a blow of retaliation?
      1. a52333
        a52333 11 September 2013 12: 19
        +2
        I agree. This can be roughly compared = commandos vs ordinary people with pepper spray. I use it with mosquito eggs, but there is a reason to catch.
      2. 1Vadim1
        1Vadim1 11 September 2013 14: 00
        0
        And this is about the same as nuclear weapons, everyone understands that retaliation will destroy the entire planet, and therefore do not attack Russia. I think the Jews will not particularly like it if chemical weapons, in the event of the start of the bombings, "accidentally" fall into the hands of Hezbollah or other terrorists, so the best thing is to take control of it in advance. And then you can again concoct some accusations and attack.
  4. albai
    albai 11 September 2013 10: 44
    0
    Amers know and understand what the game of muscles will turn into at the moment. Maybe the Syrian terrorists were frightened? laughing
  5. arutun
    arutun 11 September 2013 10: 45
    +4
    Yes, I watched this video as he brazenly lies to the whole world, though now there are fewer people who take this noodle on faith.
    In the fourth minute, he says that we must attack Syria because it can strike at our allies in the region and threatens us.
    But after five minutes, he says that you’re afraid that Syria will respond after the strike, so I’ll say that she doesn’t have the strength to hit our allies, much less harm us.

    Is it like that at all ??!

    Not a nation, but one word of a geek, if they disappear from the earth, everything will become better.
  6. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 11 September 2013 10: 49
    +8
    It's too early to rejoice, but time has won! We will wait for the next provocations (I am sure that they will) Anglo-Saxons just do not back down ...
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 11 September 2013 11: 18
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      It's too early to rejoice, but time has won! We will wait for the next provocations (I am sure that they will) Anglo-Saxons just do not back down ...
      A couple of days ago, Rusha reported that the militants were planning a provocation, a chemical attack on Israel. weapons. hi
      1. Nitup
        Nitup 11 September 2013 11: 39
        +1
        Quote: bomg.77
        Quote: MIKHAN
        It's too early to rejoice, but time has won! We will wait for the next provocations (I am sure that they will) Anglo-Saxons just do not back down ...
        A couple of days ago, Rusha reported that the militants were planning a provocation, a chemical attack on Israel. weapons. hi

        Yes, ours played ahead of the curve. RT indicates that some "sources" told the channel about the impending provocation. Intelligence worked well. I don't know if it's Syrian or ours.
        1. alex-pav
          alex-pav 11 September 2013 14: 41
          0
          The provocation will take place after the Amers push through a resolution in the UNPO on the elimination of chemical weapons by Syria - a "new red line". And then, after another provocation (a rocket with chemistry at Israel from the territory controlled by Assad), they will legally bomb as many as necessary. And it will be difficult to argue.
          So who won and whose plan it was - we'll see soon.
          1. Nitup
            Nitup 11 September 2013 14: 51
            +1
            Quote: alex-pav
            The provocation will take place after the Amers push through a resolution in the UNPO on the elimination of chemical weapons by Syria - a "new red line". And then, after another provocation (a rocket with chemistry at Israel from the territory controlled by Assad), they will legally bomb as many as necessary. And it will be difficult to argue.
            So who won and whose plan it was - we'll see soon.

            I do not agree with you, although, of course, you can expect anything you want from them, but I think the RF proposal on chemical weapons is just an opportunity for the United States without losing face, so to speak, to "retire horses." I think Russia has other arguments against the US military aggression in Syria.
  7. Akhtuba73
    Akhtuba73 11 September 2013 10: 50
    0
    "the whole progressive world breathed a sigh of relief ..." let go a little. What do you think is doing not the progressive world? In impotent rage, he barks at Russia and, most importantly, prepares new provocations that will simply forcefully drag the United States and Israel into the conflict. The bearded muck just won't wait for Assad's tanks to grind them into dust.
  8. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 11 September 2013 10: 51
    +1
    Barack Obama is just a political corpse! And in Washington they cannot but understandhi
    1. T80UM1
      T80UM1 11 September 2013 14: 13
      0
      All one has his second term; he cannot be elected by law anymore.
  9. domokl
    domokl 11 September 2013 10: 52
    +7
    I will allow myself to state my vision of the situation. I already said that the United States should have struck the previous night. Otherwise, the collapse of kaolitsiya. But Russia struck first. And much more painful for Americans than missiles. The blow was inflicted on the image of Abama and the United States as a whole.
    What happened? Why did they postpone the strike? Yes, everything is simple. We played to the Americans. Why hit? All these snot about the civilians of the filmkin letter. Where were the Americans when they bombed the same civilians in other countries? The task was completely different - destroy the chemical weapons of Syria as an alternative to the atomic weapons of Israel.
    As we see, the goal is almost achieved. And by much less means than planned.
    Yes, and the economy turned out to be a bummer for Abama. The Americans are mercantile and will consider every cent. The LAG agreed to finance the strikes, but on one, very important condition, is a ground operation in Syria. And this is for Abama a complete loss of American confidence. So now they go somewhere negotiations to the fullest about bucks for war.
    But in general, I agree with the author. We did not allow, although perhaps at the time of the killing of innocent people. We bought time to strengthen Syrian air defense. We forced the Americans to pay attention to the UN again.
    1. Guun
      Guun 11 September 2013 11: 16
      +2
      Quote: domokl
      We bought time to strengthen Syrian air defense.

      I totally agree with you. But the mercenaries and the opposition will look for this technique and not only them (Western agents and the peace-loving furry Israel). It is necessary for Assad’s army to control at least 50% of the territories or to protect the equipment themselves (if they destroy it, they will not be ready for the next batch soon and in spite they can seize the moment and deprive them fully.)
      Quote: domokl
      We forced Americans to pay attention to the UN again.

      I doubt it. Time will tell.
    2. Nitup
      Nitup 11 September 2013 11: 42
      0
      Quote: domokl
      I will allow myself to state my vision of the situation. I have already said that the United States should have been hit the previous night, otherwise the collapse of the coalition.

      It is not clear why exactly the previous night?
      1. domokl
        domokl 11 September 2013 13: 33
        +1
        Quote: Nitup
        It is not clear why exactly the previous night?

        Everything that the US Army does beyond the borders of the country is always explained by one and the same thing - Fight against terrorism. On 11 of September it is a great occasion to appeal to the nation with just such a statement. Abama had just such a speech.
        The following: at the time of the announcement of the strike, there were at least 5 allies who wanted to spit at the UN, but already at the summit it turned out that the allies doubted.
        Today, when the USA inflicts a blow, it will turn into an aggressor state, an outcast, if you will.
    3. Simple
      Simple 11 September 2013 13: 32
      +1
      Quote domokl : "... The task was completely different - to destroy the chemical weapons of Syria as an alternative to the atomic weapons of Israel ...".

      The United States has a large financial debt, which must be repaid. For the sake of this, they pick up any stone that lies badly in search of profit: so that will not be limited to this.
    4. 222222
      222222 11 September 2013 15: 34
      -1
      Americans are stereotyped, before each bigger meeting with Russia they are up to something, stupidly believing that they are some smart ... and others do not understand it ..
  10. Russ69
    Russ69 11 September 2013 10: 53
    +1
    The times of bombing at will, on the example of Serbia and Iraq, are over ...
    1. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 11 September 2013 11: 08
      +2
      I would like to believe in it. But, really, who is stopping the United States after some time blaming the same Syria for not all chemical. weapons transferred and waved test tube, you can even the same.
      1. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 11 September 2013 12: 50
        +2
        Nothing prevents us from continuing to bend our striped line, postponement means only one thing, the ability to minimize the combat effectiveness of puppet gangs, and protect the air defense forces from ground attacks, disperse the Syrian Army, no more than 10% of its units are fighting with bandits, and prepare defense lines for a meeting The Turkish army and those who decide to take part in the ground operation there, carry out the systematic destruction of all special forces who have already arrived in Syria, without leadership, ensuring the use of modern weapons and target designation, a rabble called SSA and their allies radical Islamists, just a bunch of bandits, cannon fodder.
        Well, then, gentlemen will be forced to hit a debit with a loan and think whether the game is worth the candle.
      2. vostok68
        vostok68 11 September 2013 16: 25
        +1
        By the way, yes, they were given 2 weeks to transfer chemical weapons under control! it if only ours undertakes and is entrusted, nobody dares to object to ours!
  11. bomg.77
    bomg.77 11 September 2013 10: 54
    +3
    Putin and Lavrov showed them the way to get out of the situation in which they drove themselves. Also, Putin knocked out the last trump card from the hands of the United States and sang along with them, nothing would be an unjustified attack.
    1. King
      King 11 September 2013 10: 59
      +1
      "knocked the trump card out of the hands of the United States" and put six on shoulder straps :)
      1. smart ass
        smart ass 11 September 2013 11: 46
        +1
        What everyone grabbed for chemical weapons ??? what is the use of it ??? Used 20 times, what's the use? The Italians and Yapis used well against nudist enemies, but there’s no sense. Temboley Syria indulges in applying it on his land ...
  12. eplewke
    eplewke 11 September 2013 10: 57
    +2
    Sucked ruberoid! bully laughing
  13. pensioner
    pensioner 11 September 2013 10: 58
    +3
    Finally, a survey conducted by one of the most popular sites in America showed that the overwhelming majority of the country's population are against military action in Syria: 78 to 1.
    It looks like Putin can now safely address Kerry as follows: "Hey you, 1/78! Now listen to what I have to say!" Thanks Oleg!
  14. sven27
    sven27 11 September 2013 11: 02
    +4
    The Syrian Question: Moscow’s Success on the Geopolitical Front. It is not a success yet to relax early! Success will be when amers and paddlers completely abandon the invasion!
  15. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 11 September 2013 11: 04
    +7
    "US ally - Israel - can defend itself"

    stateProfessor pay attention to these words of your ally laughing
    1. eplewke
      eplewke 11 September 2013 12: 23
      +2
      Comrade Professor, and this replica will find an evil trolling ... smile
  16. Kpa3
    Kpa3 11 September 2013 11: 04
    +2
    I wonder why the ratio for / against 78 to one? Good mass media PR against war? But the Americans have more experience in this, but they didn’t succeed. Or is it the long-awaited manifestation of the rudiments of the mind of the American people who do not want to fight? Or maybe it's fear? Again these fanatical Arabs, and even with chemical weapons. Moreover, they (as they say) have already landed their special forces on our shores? Or maybe the money is a pity?
  17. Alex-z84
    Alex-z84 11 September 2013 11: 08
    +1
    Quote: Ruslan_F38
    There is no chance to prevent a blow. the United States will still bomb Syria and try to overthrow Assad. If he takes away chemical weapons from Assad, he will have nothing to answer and restrain the nuclear potential of Israel. So strikes are inevitable - the United States will do everything to take control of the region and expand the borders of Israel. And all attempts by Russia to avoid conflict are on the side of the United States and others. It's time to understand - the United States is not interested in anyone's opinion.

    At least the attack was delayed, Syria will have more time to roll up and the troops will have time to clear the suburbs of Damascus and take more advantageous positions.
  18. Dimy4
    Dimy4 11 September 2013 11: 11
    +1
    There is even an opinion that Comrade Putin rescues the hapless Obama from the "Syrian trap"

    So I had some thoughts about who lured him into this trap ... I won’t stop further. Suddenly it is a STATE SECRET.
  19. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 11 September 2013 11: 15
    +3
    What is ahead of time drumming about success? What success? When the ships of the US Navy and their coalition allies leave the Mediterranean and Red Seas, move to permanent bases, then we can speculate about Moscow success.
  20. Ross
    Ross 11 September 2013 11: 19
    0
    Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
    Yes, Amers crap one's pants. Well, they did not think that Vovka could go so far.


    Tired amers simple to fight. The elite is fighting in the classrooms.
  21. morpogr
    morpogr 11 September 2013 11: 34
    +1
    Putin gave Obama and America a chance to break the deadlock where they drove themselves and save face if they did not use it and do as the monarchies ask from Arabia and take money for it. America will become an outcast for the world community and insignificance.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 11 September 2013 11: 48
      -1
      Quote: morpogr
      Putin gave Obama and America a chance to break the deadlock where they drove themselves and save face if they did not use it and do as the monarchies ask from Arabia and take money for it. America will become an outcast for the world community and insignificance.

      Do you really believe that the United States is doing something or not doing it at the request of the monarchy from Arabia?
  22. Predator-74
    Predator-74 11 September 2013 11: 36
    +4
    Hooray to the Russian Foreign Ministry !!!
  23. theadenter
    theadenter 11 September 2013 11: 36
    +1
    "The result of this strike should be to deter Assad from the use of chemical weapons, reducing the ability of his regime to use these weapons."

    And the increase in the possibilities of using chemical weapons by militants, and so-called allies of the United States, and not only Syrian citizens, are under attack.

    "The US ally - Israel - can protect itself, also enjoying the unwavering support of the United States."

    And this will be true until, in the end, the militants use the buried stockpile of chemical weapons in Israel, when the intensified surveillance abroad has weakened. Honestly, it is possible for militants to spit on Syria - the main thing is to take away chemical weapons and use them against sworn enemies - Gentiles.

    Where will the face of the United States be then? To put "friends" at risk - sorry ...
  24. j iz sibiri
    j iz sibiri 11 September 2013 11: 39
    -2
    we help amers get out of the pit they dug to others

    everything is very bad
    1. vostok68
      vostok68 11 September 2013 17: 19
      +1
      Ending the war is worth many losses! If it doesn’t work out, there will be more losses, but everyone knows who will win!
  25. RUS96
    RUS96 11 September 2013 11: 44
    +1
    the Americans cannot just wash themselves, it is necessary to finish them off with something, so that they probably wouldn’t hit Syria. Just how, by what? I hope that we will still pound the amers on the nose.
    1. j iz sibiri
      j iz sibiri 11 September 2013 11: 51
      +3
      Quote: RUS96
      the Americans cannot just wash themselves, it is necessary to finish them off with something, so that they probably wouldn’t hit Syria. Just how, by what? I hope that we will still pound the amers on the nose.


      sure to pounce but not yet soon
  26. Bigriver
    Bigriver 11 September 2013 12: 05
    +1
    Quote: Kpa3
    I wonder why the ratio for / against 78 to one? Good mass media PR against war? But the Americans have more experience in this, but they didn’t succeed. Or is this the long-awaited manifestation of the beginnings of reason in the American people who do not want to fight? Or maybe the money is a pity?

    This is not a PR failure, here is the failure of the advocacy campaign.
    As you can see, in globalization, in this case information, there are pluses. People have a ton of alternative sources that Washington Glavpur has no power over.
    But the main thing, IMHO, is different. The amers and NATO, initially, did not have a unity of opinion and a single consistent line regarding Syria.
    According to the material ...
    The first US-Russia round was great. We not only survived, but also seized the initiative.
    But, while we ourselves can’t evaluate what victory we won :-)
  27. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 11 September 2013 12: 06
    +2
    A good combination, so that the States do not do everything against them. They will bomb, aggressors, they will not, then they are blown away.
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 11 September 2013 13: 02
      +1
      That’s just the point, for them it’s so bad, but in another way even worse. Our diplomacy is big +!
  28. IRBIS
    IRBIS 11 September 2013 12: 11
    +1
    An excellently played game! The blow is postponed, we are in white, the rest are in cakes. And, most likely, these are not all "surprises" on our part. In any case, everything that happens is a huge success for Russian diplomats. Assad had time to calmly finish off the bandits, we had time to strengthen the Syrian army, Iran - to strengthen its own defense and provide assistance to the Syrians. In addition, if experts declare the artisanal origin of the applied agent, then some will have a reason to "jump" in the pan with the supply of weapons to the bandits.
    1. lucidlook
      lucidlook 11 September 2013 12: 33
      -13 qualifying.
      Than some Syrian bandits, those against Assad, are better than other Syrian bandits who are for Assad, to me personally, I don’t understand. But for Russia, those second are certainly more profitable. And for the USA - those first.
  29. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 11 September 2013 12: 26
    +1
    The United States of America set as its goal to destroy one by one the main enemies of Israel in the Middle East: Syria and Iran. Chemical weapons are just an excuse. Everything was prepared to practically neutralize Syria as a state. Destroy the Syrian armed forces. And then the turn of Iran will come. But alas! An extraordinary and timely initiative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, they knocked out all the arguments of the Americans, disarmed them. Russian diplomacy is on top!
  30. Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 11 September 2013 12: 36
    +1
    With your permission, a small remark. Many overlook the fact that the destruction of chemical weapons is carried out under the GUARANTEE of maintaining safety. The issue is precisely the guarantee for Assad in the event of the destruction of chemical weapons
  31. Proud.
    Proud. 11 September 2013 12: 38
    +1
    “Moreover, we know that the Assad regime is responsible. Here ...
  32. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 11 September 2013 12: 44
    +2
    It seems to be necessary to rejoice. But something doesn’t work out. The only more or less acceptable option for such control is control by the representatives of the SCO or the CSTO. Motivation: In view of the fact that the countries included in these organizations consistently stand for the non-use of force in Syria. And within the UN, letting stripes into such control is certainly not a white flag at gunpoint, but almost.
  33. Corporal
    Corporal 11 September 2013 12: 46
    0
    Wait, that is, masks from sarin already protect? What is this miracle mask?
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 11 September 2013 12: 52
      +2
      any, at a distance of preferably hundreds of kilometers.
    2. vostok68
      vostok68 11 September 2013 17: 26
      +1
      probably type IP-46, or something modern meant! But no ordinary gas mask! By the way, the remote control allows breathing for 15 minutes and the glasses are attached there!
  34. deman73
    deman73 11 September 2013 12: 48
    +2
    what can I say handsome Lavrov
  35. rudolff
    rudolff 11 September 2013 13: 09
    +2
    Success of Russian diplomacy? And in what? On May 3, on the same site there was an article "The United States has assessed the consequences of the introduction of a no-fly zone over Syria." In the comments I wrote that if we agree with Assad to take control and security of warehouses with chemical weapons, we can neutralize the last trump card of the "friends of Syria." It was in early May, but I wrote about this before. Not because I am so perspicacious and now "inflate my chest", but because this option to prevent a potential threat from the United States lay on the surface, it only had to be "picked up." In the end, they still came to him, but only with a tip from the same Americans, who, although they brandish their fists, do not really feel any desire to get involved in a new conflict. A good spoon for dinner, but even better for dinner. If we had done this earlier, no one would have hinted that only the real threat of military strikes prompted Assad to negotiate.
    Here it is appropriate to recall the agreements of the Americans with the Pakistani authorities, in accordance with which, if the situation in the country is destabilized, the Americans take control of Pakistan’s nuclear potential.
    1. Zopuhhh
      Zopuhhh 11 September 2013 16: 22
      +1
      Not only did it have to be picked up, it had to be used at the right time - well done
    2. novobranets
      novobranets 11 September 2013 22: 49
      +1
      Quote: rudolff
      In the end, they nevertheless came to him, but only with the help of all the same Americans,

      This is the point, they suggested.
  36. ioann1
    ioann1 11 September 2013 13: 18
    +2
    During the civil war, unleashed by the wards of the United States, a huge number of people, cities, historical, ancient cultural monuments were destroyed. The United States, through its mercenaries, provoked the genocide of the Syrian people. No excuses for the "opposition" can be accepted after such a bloody terror unleashed by al-Qaeda bandits with the direct participation of the US and EU countries.
    Russia, as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, should take the initiative to investigate the crimes of the atrocious mercenaries of al-Qaeda and its subsidiary groups in the SAR.

    Why was the Nuremberg trials for the Nazi fascists, and should there be any concessions for the terrorists who surpassed the wildness of the crimes of the Nazis in Germany ?!
  37. bond_es
    bond_es 11 September 2013 13: 31
    +1
    maybe everything will collapse as with Iran. muscles and play it all. Assad, meanwhile, will clean everything up.
  38. pri3rak
    pri3rak 11 September 2013 14: 34
    +3
    Something the article inspired))
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 12 September 2013 05: 15
      +1
      Defend, Lord. After such treatment, stuttering and diarrhea for the rest of your life. laughing
  39. white_f
    white_f 11 September 2013 14: 36
    +2
    No matter how it happened later with Iraq. Syria will destroy the weapons, and the carriers of democracy will again get their test tube and say: not all chemistry is destroyed, further scenarios are known.
  40. left-wing
    left-wing 11 September 2013 15: 07
    +2
    They save this black-assed one from international censure, and he still dares to yap about the fact that Assad used a chemical. weapons. Here it is western gratitude!
  41. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 11 September 2013 15: 10
    +1
    In fact, this is not entirely complete success, it is just a delay in the strike. The question is how to take control of chemical weapons, who agrees to send peacekeepers on such a mission, because the fool understands that Islamist militants will attack any contingent directed to control chemical weapons. Which country will take the liberty of such a step. All that remains is Russia, on the principle that you proposed that you be protected. Then again the question will arise of trust now in Russia. So there is a delay, there is no solution yet
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 11 September 2013 15: 24
      +1
      1. For the question of trust or lack of trust in Russia in such a question, not all trustworthiness has grown.
      2. If striped said "you offered, you and guard." What do you! Why would they make such a gift to us? They had enough of a battalion of paratroopers in Yugoslavia. They will say the loudest that only they or their satellites can only and exclusively protect them.
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 12 September 2013 05: 22
        +1
        Quote: abrakadabre
        The loudest will be said that they can be protected only and exclusively by either them or their satellites.

        Well, let them guard. Assad has the right to ask Russia to control the "controllers". In addition, the United States will bomb its own "not according to concepts", and when the "controllers" try to fade, it means that the Negro has come up with a new byaka and we need to prepare. Indicator. wassat
  42. faraon
    faraon 11 September 2013 15: 17
    -5
    I read the article, and immediately realized that everything is much simpler than everything is stated. The USA and Russia divided the world into spheres of influence for a long time. Now it had to be fixed. All this many-way chess game, as I wrote earlier, was conceived by Two countries. One that would raise your tarnished image, on the other hand, in order to consolidate your influence and presence in the region. Let's see what happens, not to bomb Syria.? If you bomb, how will Russia look at it? If you don’t bomb, then again how will the observers react to this? party of the country.
    Russia currently does not have resources like the USSR, the states do not have the opportunity because of a colossal debt. (After all, war is not toys, but huge sums are thrown to the wind) The States drove their grouping into the Mediterranean Sea under the Syrian noise, and Russia drove its grouping , Now the question is when will these countries withdraw them? Yes, there is no time. A new operation is being prepared by the US Coalition Russia. Against whom? Against Iran, (it turns out like in a fairy tale about a bad uncle and a good one)
    What is it with Syria, yes on Wed ... it’s on her, she’s already in the Stone Age. Does she have a weapon or not? Both sides will have their bonuses in the future. Some will lend green paper, others will start restoring and, as a result, everyone will use the territorial economic and other riches of Syria for free. Assad will silently look at all this as a legitimately elected president, he will even be allowed to have his own toy army. That USA did not lose face and was knocked out under its presence is good, Russia is a true friend of Syria, had concessions for the restoration of Syria. And the development of wealth and territories. Putin and Lavrov are peacekeepers. The fleet will stand to the last as it alone is the guarantor of stability in the Middle East region.
    Then there will be peace in the entire Middle East.
    1. Hariva
      Hariva 11 September 2013 16: 23
      +2
      Is the "pinpoint bombing" of Iraq, Avganistani and Libya part of your plan to establish "peace in the entire Middle East?"
    2. me
      me 11 September 2013 16: 30
      0
      The "bad good cop" method in action))
    3. pri3rak
      pri3rak 11 September 2013 17: 47
      +2
      Of course I apologize, but in my opinion a complete nonsense !!
    4. 31231
      31231 11 September 2013 18: 22
      +1
      Bgggg. Typical Jew, about typical gesheft. And, oh wei! Russia together with the USA against Iran?
    5. j iz sibiri
      j iz sibiri 11 September 2013 20: 46
      0
      what dreams do you have?

      if we restore, it means that we will beat out both amers and Israel (it doesn’t happen otherwise)

      what kind of person are you talking about then?
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  44. Bob
    Bob 11 September 2013 16: 09
    +1
    Time is won - this is the main thing. It is important to manage this resource in order to strengthen the defense of Syria. Well, about the fact that the organizers (democratizers) abandon their plans, even if they surrender chemical weapons (a deterrent to external aggression against Syria) - this is fantastic, and we must be realistic in order to make the right decisions.
  45. me
    me 11 September 2013 16: 35
    -5
    Taking control of the Syrian chemical weapons, we thereby give carte blanche to amers for a ground operation. Not surprisingly, Obama enthusiastically embraced this idea. Russia, as always, responded to the actions of the amers with its unpredictable stupidity))
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 11 September 2013 16: 57
      0
      And what is unpredictable stupidity?
      1. Truth-lover
        Truth-lover 11 September 2013 18: 40
        +2
        There is certainly some truth in this. Suppose hypothetically: Putin's plan worked, his art. He gave the siege to "neutralize" hehe. What's next?
        And then (quite possibly) a series of new ter. acts will follow, using the same "for which they fought".
        And who benefits from organizing this application? And this time, rest assured, everything will be organized without "ink on the shirt".
        Well, as a result, a full-scale intervention will not take long.
    2. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 11 September 2013 20: 34
      +1
      one might think that chemical weapons would stop the NATO invasion, a naive fallacy.
  46. duchy
    duchy 11 September 2013 17: 07
    +3
    Hello everyone!! Another day has passed. As with fauaon, everything is simple, shared a long time ago and that's it. Yes, at all times and constantly there is a struggle for spheres of influence. and "fluffy" Israel including, using every conceivable and unimaginable means. Yes, at this stage, they postponed a military strike on Syria, which most likely would have escalated into a major war across the planet. Personally, I am categorically against the death of my loved ones and relatives, friends and acquaintances, and just the inhabitants of my country. The US had to abandon the strike for now, most likely just postponed. To save his face, Obama will be puffed up to threaten and slowly deflate, he will be crushed by his own "hawks" on the one hand, on the other by opponents of the war. The economic situation in the country will deteriorate, the machine will print greenery in incredible quantities. We must wait for a new round of tension, which country will be next we will see. And I wish Assad to quickly squeeze and sweep the trash from the territory of the country.
  47. Arkan
    Arkan 11 September 2013 17: 16
    0
    Yulit Zits Chairman Obama.
  48. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 11 September 2013 17: 32
    +1
    Recently, the problem of an open US attack on Syria has been widely discussed, but the main problem remains: the forces and means of the legitimate authorities are dwindling. Yes, Russia and China help with weapons on the world stage, but what to do with the militants? Even if the entire border of Syria is closed (and the successes about which they write in the press are true), how much will the army be able to defend against the "envoys". Qatar and Saudi Arabia still have a lot of money, alas. Victory (for Russia) will be only when a regime friendly to us remains in Syria. Everyone understands perfectly well that no one is interested in chemical weapons, victims, so this is just a play on words and forms. Another thing is that, in my opinion, there is very little left to wait for the real move, but so far no one knows what it will be (a tomahawk strike or a joker from Putin), so we stock up on popcorn and wait.
  49. Vitmir
    Vitmir 11 September 2013 17: 34
    +5
    The Republic of Belarus actively supported its allies:

    Statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Belarus

    In the context of recent threats from the United States to launch a missile attack on government and military targets in the Syrian Arab Republic, the Belarusian Foreign Ministry declares support for any international efforts that could prevent the outbreak of another conflict in the Middle East.
    In this regard, we welcome the initiative of the Russian Foreign Ministry to ensure international control over Syrian chemical weapons.
    We hope that the adoption of Russian proposals by the Syrian leadership will allow the United States to abandon any UN unauthorized military intervention and to avoid new casualties among Syrian citizens.
    The Republic of Belarus is convinced that the internal conflict in Syria can be resolved only through negotiations, and calls on the UN and all interested states to contribute to a peaceful settlement without the use of military force.

    Minsk, September 10, 2013

    http://www.mfa.gov.by/press/news_mfa/c883f82db43e4166.html
  50. Watson J.
    Watson J. 11 September 2013 18: 02
    +1
    Americans are able to count. The Americans constantly need a war in order to maintain their typewriter. If they thought it was more profitable to bomb, they would have bombed, and we would have been indignant. The success of our diplomacy is that they took a number of measures in time to make this bombing unprofitable. Till. Well done. And this is a real success. And rightly called - the success of diplomacy. Not a reversal of history, not a challenge of the threat completely, it is a success today. This is the strengthening of international authority, this is a struggle for the minds, in the end. I strongly hope that Assad will be able to successfully resist the bearded scum and his de facto will not be deprived of retaliation. Otherwise, temporary success will turn into the success of our peacekeepers in Kosovo. There is a lot of noise, but the result is the opposite. We will see. They will disarm Assad and strike at Syria - that means the Russian leadership is playing in the same deck. I don’t want to think so. I want to believe. I would like to hope that our grandchildren will not live in countries like Zimbabwe.
    Time has won. Given the current situation, I think a lot of time to replenish Assad’s arsenal of arguments. As I imagine (if he does not lose to the bearded men on land), the farther, the more expensive the action against him. A definite plus. So you can pull the rubber for a very long time. It is unlikely that the Americans will find a way to limit the printing press, so that time, in theory, works for Russia. And as I understand it, the longer, the more Middle Eastern tangle of contradictions will get confused. A definite plus. Later you can’t solve it simply by bombing. Help, help Assad! Doing business is sacred, selling him what he needs. The latest missile defense systems, multiple launch rocket systems ... The longer it stays idle, the higher authority and better commerce. If only our planes were at the Israeli level, heh ...