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Mozambique orders military trimarans

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5 September 2013, the French shipbuilding company Constructions Ménaniques de Normandie (CMN) has contracted with the Government of Mozambique to build three small patrol ships, three patrol boats and 24 small 32-meter fishing trawlers. The total contract value of about 200 million euros, the construction should be carried out at the head office of CMN in Cherbourg by the end of 2015. CMN's 1992 year is controlled by a group of Safa, owned by Lebanese businessman Iskandar Safa. This contract is critical for CMN, which literally the day before announced the imminent dismissal of 80 from its 340 employees in September due to the lack of load. More 30 trawlers for Mozambique will be built at other shipyards owned by Safa (in Germany and the UAE).


The three small patrol ships ordered by Mozambique are innovative trimarans of the Ocean Eagle 43 project, representing a modification of the similar Ocean Eagle 40 project, first presented by CMN at IDEX 2013 earlier this year. It is reported that the Ocean Eagle 43 project patrol ship should have a 43 meter length, a cruising speed of up to 30 knots and a cruising range of 3000 miles on 20 knots. Due to the highly automated crew of the ship is only seven people, there is also an additional cockpit to accommodate eight people inspection team. The armament of the ship includes a remote-controlled 20-mm or 30-mm automatic artillery, two 12,7-mm machine guns. The ship is equipped with an airstrip to accommodate a Schiebel S-100 Camcopter helicopter-type UAV, and also has an 7-meter semi-rigid motor boat, quickly descending from the aft ramp.

The patrol boats ordered by Mozambique will be built on the new HSI 32 project developed by CMN. The design of boats of the traditional type, the length of the hull 32 meter, maximum speed to 45 nodes. The boat's armament includes a remote-controlled 20-mm automatic artillery, two 12,7-mm machine guns and a 7-meter semi-rigid motor boat.

Mozambique orders military trimarans



Tri-type patrol ship of the project Ocean Eagle 43 developed by Constructions Mécaniques de Normandie (CMN). Three ships of the project ordered by Mozambique





The patrol boat of the HSI 32 project developed by Constructions Mécaniques de Normandie (CMN). Three boats of the project ordered by Mozambique
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  1. sven27
    sven27 9 September 2013 14: 37 New
    +9
    Not a frail trough for poits!
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 9 September 2013 14: 50 New
      +2
      So it’s necessary where to dance under the tambourines, but it’s a bit crowded in the pie wassat
      1. elmi
        elmi 9 September 2013 15: 26 New
        +4
        Looks good. In the 1 picture it looks like a space cruiser from Star Wars. Such trimarans still show good stability on pitching, for sure we also have analogues, it would be nice to adopt.
        1. 77bob1973
          77bob1973 9 September 2013 19: 54 New
          0
          Zarya is also a kind of trimaran, it has been in operation for over 40 years.
      2. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 9 September 2013 15: 29 New
        +1
        cool spoke !!! I have a question arises-the crews will buy ships together? Will it be grown somewhere too request
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 9 September 2013 16: 03 New
          +2
          Yes, why? Seven people - not one and a half thousand. Are you a sailor? You can try to get hired. When John Paul Jones didn’t interfere with joining the Russian fleet, and fighting gloriously, but not a sailor ...
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        3. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 9 September 2013 16: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: zadorin1974
          cool spoke !!! I have a question arises-the crews will buy ships together? Will it be grown somewhere too request


          Even the Papuans can press on the gas, you just need to show where to click. And it will stop in the old fashioned way - about immovable objects.
        4. elmi
          elmi 9 September 2013 18: 39 New
          +3
          Quote: zadorin1974
          cool spoke !!! I have a question arises-the crews will buy ships together?

          I am far from you - have you heard somewhere that ships would be bought together with crews? I think no.
          Quote: zadorin1974
          Somewhere they will grow it too

          Ships that vegetables would grow? I hope I do not communicate with the student.
      3. lelikas
        lelikas 9 September 2013 17: 34 New
        +2
        Looking at this, Grachat will turn black with envy.
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    2. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 9 September 2013 15: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: sven27
      Not a frail trough for poits!


      But what does the Mozabiquan fleet sound like? wassat and the admiral of the Mozabiki fleet at all fire laughing
      1. Mister X
        Mister X 9 September 2013 18: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        But the sound of the Mozabik fleet wassat and the admiral of the Mozabik fleet at all laughing fire


        Navy of Mozambique - Marinha de Guerra de Moçambique



        Arrival of the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy of Mozambique
        Rear Admiral Patrício Cancuta Yotamu

        1. nik6006
          nik6006 9 September 2013 19: 38 New
          -3
          And the shells were placed on the deck .... Just the crew must be in the dismissal, and instead of the missing sailor on the shell.
        2. Lone gunman
          Lone gunman 10 September 2013 13: 56 New
          +1
          Eh Mozambique-Mozambique ... not ordinary, good, though poor country, first of all because of corruption, but I would like to have a hacienda there ...
    3. honest jew
      honest jew 9 September 2013 19: 16 New
      +4
      Laughter and laughter, but in Russia there is nothing of the kind and is not close. And here Mozambique is arming itself !!! So much for Russia with its Skolkovo and nano technologies.
      1. Mister X
        Mister X 9 September 2013 20: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Honest Jew
        Laughter and laughter, but in Russia there is nothing of the kind and is not close. And here Mozambique is arming itself !!! So much for Russia with its Skolkovo and nano technologies.


        Something is being built, something is being purchased, but for such a huge country it’s just tears.

        For example, the Pella shipyard has mastered the production of Raptor patrol boats (project 03160)
        developed with the participation of Dockstavarvet based on CombatBoat 90.
        One has already been launched and is undergoing tests.



        Prior to this, the FSO purchased from the Swedes 11 similar boats (IC16MII).

        Maybe for Mozambique this number of ships will be enough, but not for Russia.
        And so in everything.
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 9 September 2013 20: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: Honest Jew
        Laughter and laughter, but in Russia there is nothing of the kind and is not close. And here Mozambique is arming itself !!! So much for Russia with its Skolkovo and nano technologies.

        Nonsense !!
        Something little to believe in the reality of this article!
        I read about Mozambique and I do not understand where ???
        The total cost of the contract is about 200 million euros,

        The country where they run with spears needed ultramodern trimarans and trawlers for a huge amount for the country! Despite the fact that even in the article there is a place confirming the problems
        CMN, which literally the day before announced the upcoming dismissal in September of 80 of its 340 employees due to lack of workload.
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 9 September 2013 22: 55 New
          +1
          Why did I ask that? The equipment, in principle, was not ordered for children (in principle, not every gamer (a child who can handle keyboards on a Rimbo computer) will endure. Well, then there are certain requirements for being on combat duty (I’m a down-to-earth person who can’t stand the pumping (well, that’s how it turned out to be good) just a question from the article - UAV - well, there aren’t such a lot of specialists, here are sea-based - I can goof, but sometimes I play with toys (radio-controlled) and who’s interesting to use it? I’d like to see it lightly at least once in my life! !!!!!!
          1. Aryan
            Aryan 10 September 2013 10: 28 New
            0
            I don’t see the oars !!! recourse
      3. spravochnik
        spravochnik 11 September 2013 17: 27 New
        0
        You may shine with your honesty, but do not shine with incompetence. Much more advanced projects in the USSR and Russia have existed a long time ago. Learn the materiel.
  2. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 9 September 2013 14: 39 New
    +5
    Even Mozambique began to build new ships for its fleet. Let modest, but fully meeting the requirements set before them ...
    I won’t talk much about the ships themselves. Not a professional. But purely subjectively they seem to me quite pretty ...
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 10 September 2013 01: 52 New
      -2
      Quote: Chicot 1
      I won’t talk much about the ships themselves. Not a professional. But purely subjectively they seem to me quite pretty ...

      Cute is their only virtue.
  3. Muadipus
    Muadipus 9 September 2013 14: 41 New
    +3
    Beautiful!
    Threat. All the same, French shipbuilders are quickly building
    1. MilaPhone
      MilaPhone 9 September 2013 15: 32 New
      +3
      The Chinese are building something like that.
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 9 September 2013 16: 52 New
        +8
        Quote: Milafon
        The Chinese are building something like this

        The Chinese always build "something like"... wink
  4. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 September 2013 14: 49 New
    +5
    Here you have Mozambique ..)))
    1. avt
      avt 9 September 2013 15: 39 New
      +7
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Here you have Mozambique ..)))

      And what exactly is Mozambique? A normal budget, in all respects, and most importantly for financing, a yacht for leadership, and again, no sesurity is needed - it’s kind of like you can have the Navy and officially the trunks. laughing
  5. IsailoR
    IsailoR 9 September 2013 15: 02 New
    +5
    The purpose of the trimaran scheme used is not very clear.
    This can be justified in two cases:
    a) the expansion of habitable (useful) area due to its spacing to the edges of the outriggers (side floats) - this is not here. Why?
    b) reduction in side rolling. But then you need to know what wave conditions in the water area of ​​the intended use. Long ocean waves will force trimaran to roll on their slopes, and a short coastal wave will not rock the monochromatic shell too. Apparently there some kind of intermediate wave prevails.
    And yes. Trimaran is beautiful :)
    1. MilaPhone
      MilaPhone 9 September 2013 15: 30 New
      +2
      This is their (CMN company) fetish and skate. smile
      They even have landing craft (for the Mistral) trimarans.
  6. denson06
    denson06 9 September 2013 15: 17 New
    +2
    Where does Mozambique climb?))) What canoeing did not suit them ..
    Sail calmly and peacefully ... in the oceans and without Mozambique there are enough boats with trunks ..
    Everyone wants to identify themselves ..
  7. buzer
    buzer 9 September 2013 15: 38 New
    +1
    take a look on the internet on the coat of arms and the flag of mozambique! Why do they need trimarans with such a coat of arms. With such symbols, you need to swim on something with a different silhouette.
  8. tlauicol
    tlauicol 9 September 2013 15: 41 New
    +5
    the Indonesians had one. Burned out ..
  9. rugor
    rugor 9 September 2013 15: 49 New
    0
    Where does Mozambique climb?))) What canoeing did not suit them ..


    They are afraid that they will burn, like the Indonesians laughing
  10. tlauicol
    tlauicol 9 September 2013 15: 59 New
    +4

    here it burns.
    depressing is the fact that countries of the 3rd, 4th world buy stealth ships, even build, and we, a superpower, use 45-year-old rarities
    1. kavkaz8888
      kavkaz8888 9 September 2013 17: 52 New
      +1
      What kind of warship that burns like a collective farm punt?
      This and such Mistral would be?
  11. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 9 September 2013 16: 03 New
    +3
    But I don’t understand, the machine guns for both of the above floating vehicles, the firing sectors only back? Et so that when they run away they would have something to shoot back from. lol
  12. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 9 September 2013 16: 17 New
    +5
    In the modern world there are two types of sea pirates. Unwashed funny faces on air bags, gutting bulk carriers and tankers, brandishing AKM. Somalia style so to speak. And there is a second type. Tough, trained as special guys, mainly yellow and white. They go to the very high-speed and excellently armed vessels. Specialization - yachts of wealthy people. Everything is clean, simple, professional. The ends are always in the water ...
    These beautiful trimarans can serve two purposes. Firstly, as rightly stated above, these can be yachts. Both for management and for rent, a smart rich man will be happy to rent a military equipment yacht directly with the team, if he is sure that he himself will not be sent to search the land vertically down. To earn good fame and mow quietly grannies, writing off expenses on the military budget - what is not a modern business?
    And secondly, it is quite possible that these things will also "burn out". Fast, clean and fit. And after a while on sea routes, quiet ghosts will appear much more powerful (boosters are asking for floats), well-armed "ghosts". And it became very easy to track the construction of ships of the corresponding class and equipment. As I understand it, not that they were drowned. Rather, they tear up the share mercilessly, the toad strangles ...
  13. Siberian
    Siberian 9 September 2013 16: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: Tlauicol

    here it burns.
    depressing is the fact that countries of the 3rd, 4th world buy stealth ships, even build, and we, a superpower, use 45-year-old rarities

    These boats look great - catamaran yachts. But they burn ... smoke like from a big pile of old tires or bitumen (black). Is that super technology?
  14. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 9 September 2013 16: 29 New
    +5
    Let's start with the fact that Mozambique is a country with high rates of economic growth, its trajectory is even compared to the path of the "Asian tigers" at the beginning of their growth, in any case, textiles and other labor-intensive industries are transferred there from Asia due to the cheapness.
    http://www.africaneconomicoutlook.org/en/countries/southern-africa/mozambique/

    it can be seen that economic growth since 2004 has rarely dropped below 7% of GDP per year. Well, gas reserves on the shelf of 1,5 trillion cubic meters (if converted from feet) - not a cat spit (Shtokman IMHO 4 trillion cubic meters, and annual production in Russia is less than 0,5 trillion rubles EMNIP), even though production since 2019
    and here you can read about the largest projects
    http://www.afdb.org/fileadmin/uploads/afdb/Documents/Publications/Mozambique%20F
    ull% 20PDF% 20Country% 20Note.pdf

    There recently Eni Italian found gas on the shelf. Plus the aluminum smelter + port. They dig coal. Metals as different as dirt. Hydroelectric power station in the Zambezi. There is, in short, something to protect. And our SK 1400 project + MiG-21bis + Mi-24, which the USSR supplied them within the framework of the military-technical cooperation, they have long since lost Totosha and Kokosha's new galoshes. Therefore, they are now being purchased ... Regards! hi
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 9 September 2013 18: 18 New
      +1
      And their merchant fleet is larger than ours.
    2. waisson
      waisson 9 September 2013 19: 21 New
      +1
      money in business and not like we in pom
  15. sven27
    sven27 9 September 2013 16: 29 New
    0
    Quote: tilovaykrisa
    So it’s necessary where to dance under the tambourines, but it’s a bit crowded in the pie wassat

    ... well, and here for this a whole helipad, you can even arrange a sacrifice)))
  16. RBLip
    RBLip 9 September 2013 16: 33 New
    +4
    Quote: avt
    And what exactly is Mozambique? Normal budget, in all respects and most importantly for financing, a yacht for guidance

    it is still our figures from the Ministry of Defense have not seen her. I won’t be surprised at the news about the urgent need of the Russian Navy for this kind of yacht ... watchmen.
  17. starhina01
    starhina01 9 September 2013 19: 06 New
    +1
    and what for they they request
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 9 September 2013 19: 36 New
      0
      quote-Three Mozambique-ordered small patrol ships are innovative trimarans of the Ocean Eagle 43 project, a modification of the similar Ocean Eagle 40 project, first introduced by CMN at the IDEX 2013 exhibition earlier this year.

    2. ICT
      ICT 9 September 2013 19: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: starhina01
      and what for they they

      BORDER TO PROTECT. Again, in the same order, conditionally 6 warships and 24 civilians in the same weight category, here they too will have to be protected
  18. nikcris
    nikcris 9 September 2013 19: 56 New
    +2
    Quote: lelikas
    And their merchant fleet is larger than ours.

    I don’t know how today, I’m too lazy to google, and before Liberia and partially Greece were the most navigational
  19. honest jew
    honest jew 9 September 2013 22: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: APASUS
    The total cost of the contract is about 200 million euros, The country where people run with spears needed ultramodern trimarans and trawlers for a huge amount for the country! Despite the fact that even in the article there is a place confirming the problems



    Economy of Mozambique



    Natural resources - coal, titanium, tantalum, gas, hydropower.
  20. Simple
    Simple 10 September 2013 00: 54 New
    0
    Quote: Milafon
    The Chinese are building something like that.


    Already built:

    http://www.superyachttimes.com/yachts/details/2854
  21. studentmati
    studentmati 10 September 2013 01: 04 New
    -1
    Mozambique is the territory of Portugal. So who makes the order?
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 10 September 2013 01: 15 New
      +2
      Sash was now an independent state. Here are American ships. General Dynamics LCS ship
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 10 September 2013 01: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Alex 241
        now an independent state


        Cool independence ...?
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 10 September 2013 01: 19 New
          +1
          Well, you know very well that nature does not tolerate emptiness.
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 10 September 2013 01: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: Alex 241
            Well, you know perfectly well that nature does not tolerate emptiness.


            Nature is one thing ..., an objectionable space (Syria) is another thing designated as emptiness and filled with pseudo prosperity ... (thousands of corpses who disagree with the implanted democracy ...) ...
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 10 September 2013 01: 32 New
              +1
              Sasha, you noticed that I practically did not participate in the discussion of these topics, I have my own opinion. But for the United States this will not be an easy walk, especially the land phase.
              1. studentmati
                studentmati 10 September 2013 01: 38 New
                0
                Quote: Alex 241
                Sasha, you noticed that I practically did not participate in the discussion of these topics, I have my own opinion. But for the United States this will not be an easy walk, especially the land phase.


                Of course I noticed, Sasha! More and more the topic of food was discussed.

                My opinion is that the land phase, if it does, will be worse than the first Chechen one ...
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 10 September 2013 01: 46 New
                  +2
                  Sasha, you understand very well that Syria is now being studied under a magnifying glass, and the orbital group, and reconnaissance, etc., especially the position of air defense.
                  1. studentmati
                    studentmati 10 September 2013 01: 54 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Alex 241
                    Sasha, you understand very well that Syria is now being studied under a magnifying glass, and the orbital group, and reconnaissance, etc., especially the position of air defense.


                    Comprehensive study has been going on for quite some time. In the situation with Syria, the amers no longer have the right to make a mistake, because for so long they have been reconnoitering ... The blow will be crushing. Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq are resting .... I express my personal opinion ...
                    1. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 10 September 2013 01: 56 New
                      +1
                      The blow will be crushing ....... San would be good for an empty place.
                      1. studentmati
                        studentmati 10 September 2013 01: 59 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        The blow will be crushing ....... San would be good for an empty place.


                        I think, I hope and I am sure that SVR and GRU are working out their bread!
                      2. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 10 September 2013 02: 02 New
                        +1
                        Quote: studentmati
                        that SVR and GRU are working out their bread!
                        Serious men work there.
                      3. studentmati
                        studentmati 10 September 2013 02: 12 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        Quote: studentmati
                        that SVR and GRU are working out their bread!
                        Serious men work there.


                        Nevertheless, there was a mistake with Yandarbiev, although with a positive result for state interests. Hope the guys come back?
                      4. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 10 September 2013 02: 16 New
                        +1
                        Of course we will be Sanya.
                      5. studentmati
                        studentmati 10 September 2013 02: 41 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        Of course we will be Sanya.


                        And if you recall the 1999 civil war in Ethiopia?
                      6. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 10 September 2013 02: 44 New
                        +1
                        When were embassy staff captured?
                      7. studentmati
                        studentmati 10 September 2013 02: 55 New
                        +1
                        Ethiopia and Eritrea air war, Su-27 and MiG-29 war .... Participants and eyewitnesses? Where are you?
                      8. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 10 September 2013 03: 05 New
                        +1
                        Sanya, well, it was more like a war of Russian and Ukrainian instructors.
                      9. studentmati
                        studentmati 10 September 2013 03: 14 New
                        0
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        Sanya, well, it was more like a war of Russian and Ukrainian instructors.


                        Sash, this was a war of technology. Some planes were supplied to Ethiopia, others to Eritrea. Both states were given the command "fas" .......
                      10. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 10 September 2013 03: 19 New
                        +1
                        The success of Ethiopia's use of the Su-27 prompted Eritrea to purchase the same type of fighter aircraft after the war.
                        Sasha’s equipment is controlled by people, and due to the low level of training, neither side was able to fully realize the qualities laid down in the aircraft. The successes of Ethiopia's use of the Su-27 prompted Eritrea to purchase the same type of fighters after the war
                      11. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 10 September 2013 03: 25 New
                        +1
                        After the end of the war in the Ethiopian Air Force, Su-27 fighters were mastered by not only men, but also women
                      12. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 10 September 2013 03: 27 New
                        0
                        Eritrean MiG-29s were based at Asmara and Masau airfields
    2. old man54
      old man54 10 September 2013 04: 44 New
      0
      The GRU, Sasha, in the 2000, under Yeltsin, they also killed, all the sensibles were dispersed, someone left. A lot of people are talking about this, but of. authorities do not like to talk about this. So that ...
  • Simple
    Simple 10 September 2013 01: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: studentmati
    Mozambique is the territory of Portugal. So who makes the order?




    Rich?
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 10 September 2013 01: 27 New
      +2
      Clever who think in perspective.
      1. Simple
        Simple 10 September 2013 01: 34 New
        +1
        This is another definition of the "rich".
        Another question, why?
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 10 September 2013 01: 42 New
          +1
          The new army of Mozambique was formed in 1994 by the merger of the government forces of Frelimo and the armed forces of Renamo. In 1998, the ground forces numbered 11 thousand people, in addition, the country had a small navy and air force. The task of maintaining internal order, including the fight against banditry, is entrusted to paramilitary police forces. A law on compulsory military service was passed in 1997. The main task is to increase the combat capability of the Navy of Mozambique in order to strengthen its role in protecting security in the country and the region, combating illegal fishing, combating drug smuggling and human trafficking.
          1. Simple
            Simple 10 September 2013 01: 58 New
            +3
            Clear.
            It’s somehow luxurious anyway. (I mean design.)
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 10 September 2013 01: 59 New
              +1
              I agree that it is futuristic.
  • studentmati
    studentmati 10 September 2013 01: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: Alex 241
    Clever who think in perspective.


    In the future, designers and technologists think. Little Mind ... Political calculation is at the forefront ... In this case, the Mind is a side instance (ha ha ha). The eternal question - what is primary - an egg or a chicken?
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 10 September 2013 01: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: studentmati
      What is primary - an egg or a chicken?

      Kalashnikov assault rifle laughing
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 10 September 2013 01: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Alex 241
        Kalashnikov assault rifle laughing


        7,62! good
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 10 September 2013 01: 44 New
          +1
          So exactly laughing ......................
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 10 September 2013 01: 48 New
            0
            Quote: Alex 241
            So for sure laughing ......


            Mozambique is a puppet! Whose undecided whose? Who will pay more?
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 10 September 2013 01: 49 New
              +1
              Well, I think they will not be sold for glass beads.
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 10 September 2013 03: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: Alex 241
        Kalashnikov assault rifle

        But you are not far from the truth.

        Coat of arms of the Republic of Mozambique.The image is clickable.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 10 September 2013 03: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Corsair
          But you are not far from the truth.

          Flag of the Republic of Mozambique.
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 10 September 2013 03: 42 New
            0
            On July 8, 1981, Lieutenant Adriano Bomba from the Mozambique Air Force fled to South Africa. To the Hodspruit air base, his battered MiG-17 was escorted by Mirage F1AZ SAAF fighters.
            MiG-21 Air Force Mozambique
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 10 September 2013 03: 45 New
              0
              On July 8, 1981, Lieutenant Adriano Bomba from the Mozambique Air Force fled to South Africa. To the Hodspruit air base, his battered MiG-17 was escorted by Mirage F1AZ SAAF fighters.
    2. Simple
      Simple 10 September 2013 01: 49 New
      +2
      Alexander, but political calculation cannot happen crazy.


      "... The eternal question - what comes first - an egg or a chicken?"



      Born together?
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 10 September 2013 01: 51 New
        +2
        Damn, three Alexandra gathered, you can make a wish laughing
        1. Simple
          Simple 10 September 2013 02: 01 New
          +1
          You can still on this occasion, not?

          drinks
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 10 September 2013 02: 02 New
            +1
            Necessary............. drinks
            1. studentmati
              studentmati 10 September 2013 02: 04 New
              0
              Quote: Alex 241
              Need ............. drinks


              Definitely! drinks
  • Simple
    Simple 10 September 2013 02: 04 New
    +1
    What do we spill?
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 10 September 2013 02: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: Simple
      What do we spill?


      I'm sorry, what,...? Our, technical, "rubber" ..., with the taste of the Motherland! ...
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 10 September 2013 02: 09 New
        +1
        Well you are cool men laughing Sanya, I will support you with a beer. drinks
        1. Simple
          Simple 10 September 2013 02: 15 New
          +1
          I am Spanish wine "Sierra Cantabria" Reserva 2004
          I brought it from vacation.
          Cheers!
          And beautiful desires, yes more! drinks
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