Two types of tanks will remain in the Ground Forces

In 1,5 years, the ground forces of the armed forces of the Russian Federation will be fully transferred to use tanks two types of T-72 and T-90A.

This will happen, according to the concept of the development of armored vehicles of military technology up to 2020. This was announced today on the radio station Ekho Moskvy by the head of the Main Automobile and Armored Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Alexander Shevchenko.

“Through 1,5 of the year, we will come to the conclusion that in the ground forces and in the units of constant readiness there will be a single family of the T-72 tank, modernized by firepower, and the T-90А tank,” he said.

Shevchenko added that even 5 years ago, armored armament in the Russian Federation had at least 40 samples and at least 10 types of tanks only, the maintenance of such a number of vehicles was not profitable both in financial and technical terms.

Comments

[sven27]

And what about tanks with GTE we completely refuse?

[Kars]

Interestingly, the T-80 will be sawn on metal, targets or repaired and sold?

[yanus]

Quote: Kars

Interestingly, the T-80 will be sawn on metal, targets or repaired and sold?

T80, according to the old Soviet tradition, will simply rot at the "storage" bases.

[seller trucks]

7000!!!! units in the furnace, why the hell is such a reform needed? In truth, no words

[bask]

Quote: seller trucks

7000 !!!! units in the furnace, why the hell is such a reform needed?

And what units !!! Upgrade the T-80 and operate together with the T-90.

[evil hamster]

Come on. What for? If we compare, let’s say T72B3 - in the form that they are doing now
and the potential modernization of the T80B in the same vein (the same budget), then there will not be much difference. The firepower will be the same, the protection of the T73B3 is perhaps a bit better, of course the T80 is better in driving performance, but you have to pay for it. They don’t make new turbines, they just have to repair the finished ones and it’s not clear how much they can do and how much it will cost, provided that it has not been done for 20 years already?
It would be better if the T72 was modernized normally for protection and not just the JMA. Better still, they wouldn’t be littering and release the T90 in series in decent volumes while Armata is in operation.

[Evgeny_Lev]

I do not understand your admiration for the 80th.
When I served on Sputnik, I often, in the winter, became a witness of how 80s with a gas turbine engine, stupidly stuck in the snow.
72ki then pulled them.
So xs, I didn’t use tanks, only MTLBs and NONs, but the negative about 80s remained.

[Dinver]

Yes, even if they’re not very, but they’ll just rot them in the open air, if only they would hand them over to the state guards in underground storage in grease, maybe they will come in handy ...

[seller trucks]

Quote: Dinver

at least they handed over to the state guards in underground storage facilities in grease, maybe they will still be useful to us ...

at the State Conservation, the equipment is from 2-3 years, we are now selling KamAZ and UAZ 2011 of the year, what you offer will lead to overloading of warehouses. This is not an option.

[tomket]

yes there and MTLBs were sitting on the ears to the ears, especially if the mechanic was not experienced on balls, it’s a sweet thing to bury oneself in the hatches, but 80 does it at full speed on the virgin snow

[Aleks tv]

Quote: Evgeny_Lev

So xs, I didn’t use tanks, only MTLBs and NONs, but the negative about 80s remained.

"I don't know, but against." What is it like ?

Somehow tank crews were derailed with unification and nobody cared.
And now all of a sudden, everyone remembered it right away, screamed and decided ... the best of the tanks in service was to write off.
Namana. Heh. I hope that this infa does not quite reflect reality.

If the T-80 will be removed from service, then good reasons and reasons are needed, somewhere infa slipped that the engines can not repair, but this is not a good reason. And do not forget about the cars delivered abroad.

T-80 is a serious weapon, it can only be changed to Armata.

[kot11180]

on a satellite, is it in Vladikavkaz? and there that beat 80s? it seems only 72 and 90s now

[tomket]

This satellite is near Murmansk, there are Marines

[Geisenberg]

Quote: seller trucks

7000!!!! units in the furnace, why the hell is such a reform needed? In truth, no words

The point of keeping them? Just in case, chtoli? Or to enslave Europe ???

As one movie hero said, "we will cool down if something goes wrong," I paraphrase - no one wants to seize a nuclear garbage dump.

[tomket]

how, for example, to estimate the excess of tanks in the 41 year? was there too much or vice versa, just so much that would stop the Wehrmacht near Moscow in the end? why say t-26 was not sent to the furnace? after all, t-34 has already appeared, just in case has happened, and we must come in handy!

[evil hamster]

Maybe just if they were a little smaller, but their preparedness and correctness were higher and the crews and command were better prepared (there are still a lot if), then 41 years would not be so tragic for us. Better repaired and running T72A on the basis of storage, even if it has a primitive SDA (it is not there exactly like the System) but it works than the T80U in the form of firewood. Much better.

[Strashila]

They will plunder ... they will drink away ... everything will screw up ... everything is as usual.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

one engine sound was bewitching ... it seemed that now it will go on for a long time from excess power, like a Porsche or a Ferrari ... sorry ... sorry ...

[sven27]

the sound is really like a racing car)

[Orel]

In 1,5, the ground forces of the RF Armed Forces will be fully transferred to the use of two types of tanks T-72 and T-90А.

This will happen, according to the concept of the development of armored weapons of military equipment until 2020.

Those. We can't wait for "Armata" until 2020?

[zadorin1974]

Dear eagle, what are you talking about what kind of "armata" - we still like in the song - "we will build our new world" for twenty years we have been building one tank (t 95) and now in two years a whole platform? and even "so as not to drink, not smoke, so that flowers always gave "

[bars280]

And where is Armata ????

[Edward72]

Of course, it is pennimistic, but for the time being they will bring to mind Armata the 72nd and 90th themselves will fall apart.

[military]

Quote: bars280

And where is Armata ????

where-where? ... the elder one said that two types ... so two ...

[RBLip]

and where is the "armata"? when will they see it in the troops?

[tilovaykrisa]

WHERE will T80 do?

[nemec55]

Upgrade to ARMATA

[Tersky]

Quote: tilovaykrisa

WHERE will T80 do?

There is such a continent in Africa, where the natives suck in junk unless the penguins, and then because of the unbearable heat, ..

[smel]

I can’t plus, because I’m used to that recently all the innovations are harmful

[knyazDmitriy]

here are not smart people, t-80 in the scrap is nonsense !!! I wonder how they will cover the northern borders without a gas turbine engine, which starts in 2 minutes, and unlike diesels, which start 40 minutes

[Nayhas]

Quote: knyazDmitriy

I wonder how they will cover the northern borders without GTE

And from whom to protect? From polar bears?

[zadorin1974]

we don’t have a howl at a boble; we’ll kill another platform; a reactive hovercraft and armament like a modern destroyer

[evil hamster]

Is it supposed that the Abrams on the gas turbine engine will pass on the ice of the Arctic Ocean and hit us in the rear?

[RBLip]

Quote: tilovaykrisa

WHERE will T80 do?

I propose to sell to the population. at the price of scrap metal.

[nemec55]

Cool and garden to plow and slap in the mouth to heap thieves.

[d1m1drol]

Necessarily with ammunition)) Pests are plagued by w))

[Tersky]

Quote: RBLip

I propose to sell to the population.

Are you going to go to the market? To answer the question about the price to ask again "How much, how much? Is this for the whole bag? How cheap is everything today ...."

[denson06]

WHERE will T80 do?

Who knows ... All this needs to be done smoothly ... gradually ... competently ..
I hope that it will be like that..
80-ku, if I’m not mistaken before, Kharkov developed and produced .. By itself, an expensive tank, of course ..

[Kars]

Quote: denson06

Kharkov used to develop

Leningrad.
T-80UD which Kharkov made in the Russian Federation has long been written off / put in storage.

[Slevinst]

and I wonder where the armata will go

[yanus]

Quote: S-200

I'm not a tanker, but isn't the T-80 a modification of the base T-72?

No. Independent model. The share of unification with T72, of course, is, but not enough.

[MrFYGY]

For me, this is a T-80 with a gas turbine engine, which is the same for the Arctic Brigades, it is too early to write it off.

[Russ69]

More recently, it was said through the mouth of someone from the General Staff that the T-80s would be deployed to the Far East. And the rest of the district will gradually change to T-72 and T-90. And this process is not fast. It seems to me again, or someone that did not understand or did not agree.

[terran125]

Quote: RBLip

I propose to sell to the population. at the price of scrap metal

fully support and I’d buy a couple just in case

[paul1969]

and even on credit !!!

[Algor73]

It is a reasonable decision in order to save, if the remaining tanks are susceptible to conservation. And if the abandoned decay in decay?

[paul1969]

in order to support the increase of patriotism in the country, which, incidentally, is in short supply

[Muadipus]

There is logic in the subject. Unification is our main assistant. Because the economy must be economical. And the T-80? ... well, most of it is mothballed, it can either be left in this form or sold. And those that are in the troops so .. nothing will happen will drag the service. The correct idea, to scatter different types of tanks in different corners, it is easier and cheaper to maintain the material base. And there is no need to "smear" specialists all over Russia.
IMHO normal news.

[yanus]

By the way, the latest T-80s can be transferred to the Internal Troops. They have everything exactly wild junk, they will come in handy on the farm.

[chunga-changa]

In order to keep the T-80 in service, it is necessary to maintain production to replenish the loss, accumulate MTO funds, train crews and repair services. Plan to use tanks only in areas where "native" spare parts and suitable fuel have been accumulated. Arctic brigades need snow and swamp vehicles, preferably floating, they are unlikely to have tanks in service.

[erased]

Firstly, the information is outdated, it hangs on the network for three days already. Secondly, this statement by the Head of the Main Armored Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Russia looks strange:

... a prototype of the new Russian tank on the Armata platform will be sent for preliminary tests in two months. It is not inferior to analogs in service with NATO countries, and in some respects it surpasses them ...

Source - http://www.dni.ru
Is this new tank just going to be worse ?? And something better? So surprised.
And thirdly, if by 2015 the modernized T-72 and some T-90 will go into the troops (it is not clear in which version), then what kind of shisha will Armata buy?
In a word, a lot of questions. We look forward to continuing ...

[Diesel]

Damn well, t80bv and t80u (beats) then you need to leave, at least in the Far East and in the northern regions.

[Drosselmeyer]

The General Staff would have somehow filtered the information. Almost every month in the news about tanks, one thing or another.

[Armata]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Where is Armata? something like this now and start to scream. Just a simple question. Where at least T90MS? Shorter than all shod.

[King]

For me, it’s necessary not to stupidly send old samples to the landfill, but to do so, as in the states, to sell all the old equipment in the country.

[Muadipus]

So in the article about the landfill, not a word is said

[Letnab]

unification is a good thing, just not immediately and abruptly it is necessary to do it, but as is customary in our country, according to the revolutionary, checker swing, and neither old tanks, nor new ones ... gradually replace equipment as new and modernized ones arrive.

[Sochi]

Maybe I’m mistaken, but the diesel engine has reached its limit and it is already impossible to significantly increase the given mass dimensions. GTE seems to have more prospects, although at this stage it will require a very significant investment. Therefore, the rejection of the T-80 seems to me a short-sighted step. As if then again did not have to catch up.

[servant.]

Well, here you have the new minister and rearmament ....

[Andrew 447]

For less than 12 years he served on the T-54/55/62/64 / 64B, this is really nonsense. You still remember the T-64 in various modifications (4-5 variations in my memory). It is correct that the constant readiness parts are translated for 2 types of tanks. "Armata" will most likely go first to the "court" divisions. So nothing revolutionary. The main thing is that GBTU tanks, taking into account the peculiarities of the theater of operations, are distributed among the districts.

[sven27]

Quote: sven27

And what about tanks with GTE we completely refuse?

Why did they blame it?

[NickitaDembelnulsa]

Don’t believe them. they hastened to "please" us. This is the number of tanks to be written off. Rave. A considerable part of them from the overhaul came only, and here it is. Autogen them. T-80, T-55, T-64 and T-62 will be sent to the most geographically safe regions of the country and that's it. The military are not their own enemies

[rudolff]

Maybe this idea has some kind of pragmatic and rational meaning, but it's annoying for everyone! Experience suggests that our MO has mastered the art of "getting rid of surplus" to perfection. Like wizards, damn it! Any volume of any technique will be "dissolved" in a week and you will not find the ends. True, then with a Cheshire smile, they may admit that they were in a hurry, but the purely past leaders will be to blame. For approximately the same reasons, ten-year-old ships were sent under the cutter.

[servant.]

What will be removed from service and the type will go to storage bases, it is unlikely to ever become a military unit .... This is so from life experience ..

[Andrew 447]

Basically, there may be problems with the engines, it depends on how they canned The main thing is of course the battery and ammunition, and the rest can be trivial with the 1 machine as a spare part kit in the company. IF WHAT 90% starts up and goes.

[Strashila]

As experience shows to MO officials, the bloody experience says nothing ... after all, neither they go on the attack. Types of wagons again ... there were 10 types of tanks ... what ??? I understand the economic crisis ... China needs cheap metal ... but not at the cost of Russia's security. It’s just a struggle for loot ... The Urals, as Omsk can push in ... they first closed the design bureau ... now they’ll lose their jobs ... and then ... another new housing on the premises of the former factory.

[Andrew 447]

In the ZabVO in the 80-90s, IS-3s were still in storage bases, so imagine the list, for sure somewhere else the T-10 is in storage + PT-76, T-54 (with a bunch of different modifications, I remember in a neighboring company from 10 tanks were 4 different modifications) / 55/62/64 (rev. 432,434,437,447,447b) / 72 (also modifications 3-4) / 80 (also 4-5 modifications). And where with this zoo? My opinion is all up to T-64b in scrap metal or shaman and sell "natives". T-64b / 72/80 early issues for storage and gradually modernize them. Keep fresh in combat units.

[tomket]

to bring to a single standard or to make heavy armored personnel carriers from them, which by the way is very popular today, the experience of Israel is at hand, but apparently no one wants to study

[RBLip]

Quote: Tersky

Are you going to go to the market?

into the village for the weekend. you go, you look at the traffic cop, you turn the tower around like that and swing the gun with it, ah-ah-yay! cool!

[desiscia]

t-64 in the furnace t-80 rot and ride on something you will be in the trash raving is not rearmament and damage. There is no reason, no fate.

[svp67]

Quote: desiscia

t-64 in the furnace t-80 rot and ride on something you will be in the trash raving is not rearmament and damage. There is no reason, no fate.

Thank you for your concern, but first clean up yourself ... This is it. The second thing that is clearly said is that they will be replaced by new and modernized ones, and this is not a very fast song, especially in light of the upcoming budget cuts ...

[desiscia]

so what the hell order, change Mercedes to Lada.

[evil hamster]

Is it a T64 then a Mercedes?

[Rossmk]

Better they rivet at least half the t-90, and then the old ones are sawing!

[Per se.]

When there is only money from morality, and only profit from perspective, so why be surprised here. We no longer need tanks with gas turbine engines, and they will put an end to the T-80 ... In general, our counterintelligence should track such innovations in strategic prospects, calculating the "generator of ideas" who is either a fool or a traitor, in both cases to such "economists" no place to steer in the country's defense.

[sergey158-29]

Everything seems to be logical ...

But is it always better to have fewer, but simple tanks ...

[MRomanovich]

Refuse T80? EBNa and Serdyukov not (someone alive, someone at the helm) and their business lives on.

[knyazDmitriy]

Quote: MrFYGY

For me, this is a T-80 with a gas turbine engine, which is the same for the Arctic Brigades, it is too early to write it off.

I completely agree with you, the tank has clearly not exhausted its potential, and if you try a little and bring the experimental development of the gas turbine engine to reduce fuel consumption, and equip the T-80 with a new electronic filling, it will obviously be able to carry out military service for the good of MOTHERLAND for more than a dozen years .