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Two Syrian Su-24 approached Cyprus airspace

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Syrian Su-24MK * at work



British radars at the RAF airbase at Akrotiri and Turkish air defense radars detected an approach to the exclusive Cyprus airspace of two unidentified combat aircraft flying from Syria. The incident occurred even 2 September, but it became known only now.


Su-24 fighter-bomber pilots refused to respond to requests from base dispatchers and fulfill their requirements.

The British command decided to intercept. In the air were raised Typhoon fighters. At the same time, two Turkish F-16 fighter jets were raised from the NATO airbase in Incirlik, reports MIGnews, citing the Mirror newspaper. The publication claims that the pilots were ordered to shoot down Syrian aircraft in case they violate the airspace of Cyprus.

The Syrian pilots, seeing British aircraft on their radars, turned around and flew to Syria.

Earlier, Western journalists declassified details of the upcoming strike on Syria. According to the Associated Press, foreign missiles will hit at once dozens of targets in the country in the predawn hours. In this case, the date of the attack is not specified. Dozens of Tomahawk missiles will be launched at strategic sites related to the military and state structures of Syria. However, chemical warehouses weapons will not be bombarded.

The attack will last for several hours, after which the NATO military using the data obtained from satellites, will assess the damage. Then, if necessary, another blow will be struck, and possibly several blows.

* Approx.
Su-24MK - modernized bomber, export version. A new aiming and navigation system PNS-24М “Tiger” was installed. Able to automatically and semi-automatically fly around the terrain at an altitude of 50 m.
In service with the Syrian Air Force - 20 Su-24

TECH SPECS
Crew: 2 person
Length: 24,594 m (with LDPE)
Wingspan:
when the sweep angle χ = 16 °: 17,638 m
when the sweep angle χ = 69 °: 10,366 m
Height: 6,192 m
Wing area:
at sweep angle χ = 16 °: 55,16 m²
at sweep angle χ = 69 °: 51 m²
Wing extension ratio:
at sweep angle χ = 16 °: 5,64
at sweep angle χ = 69 °: 2,107
The leading edge sweep angle: 16 ° / 35 ° / 45 ° / 69 °
Transverse V wing: −4,5 °
The base chassis: 8,51 m
Track Chassis: 3,31 m
Empty weight: 22300 kg
Curb weight: 23700 kg
Normal takeoff weight: 33500 kg
Maximum takeoff weight: 39700 kg
Normal landing weight: 24500 kg
Maximum landing weight: 28000 kg
Fuel mass in internal tanks: kg 9800
Fuel tank capacity: l 11860
Powerplant: 2 × TRDDF AL-21F-3
Unforced traction: 2 × 7800 kgf (76,5 kN)
Afterburner: 2 × 11200 kgf (110 kN)

Flight characteristics
Maximum speed:
at a height of 200 m: 1400 km / h (without suspensions)
at high altitude: 1700 km / h (1,35M)
Breakout speed: 360-400 km / h
Landing speed: 285-310 km / h
Fighting radius: 560 km (at a height of 200 m with PTB and normal. Combat load)
Ferry range: 2850 km (with PTB)
Service ceiling: 11500 m
Wing load: 607 kg / m² (at normal take-off weight with χ = 16 °)
Thrust: 0,67 / 0,56 (at normal / max. Take-off weight at the boost)
Takeoff run: 1150-1250 m (at normal take-off weight)
Run length: 950-1000 m (at normal take-off weight and with brake parachute)
Maximum operating overload: + 6,5G

weaponry
Gun-gun: 1 x six-barreled 23-mm gun GSH-6-23 with 500.
Suspension Points: 8
Combat load: 7500 kg (maximum)
Guided Missiles:
air-to-air missiles: 2 × P-60 (AA-8)
air-to-ground missiles:
4 × X-25ML / MP or X-23
3 × X-29L / T or X-59
high precision aviation medium-range air-to-surface missile (up to 200km).
6 × C-25L
2 × X-58
X-58E - anti-radar, export version of the X-58. Range - 200 km
X-58A - anti-shipping option
Targeting - before launch, from the onboard sensor or suspension station.
Unguided rockets:
192 (6 × 32) × 57 mm C-5 in blocks UB-32 or
120 (6 × 20) × 80 mm C-8 in blocks B-8М or
30 (6 × 5) × 122 mm C-13 in B-13L blocks or
4 × 240 mm C-24 or
6 × 266 mm C-25
Bombs: svobodnopadayuschie and responsive for various purposes, cluster bombs
3 × 1500 kg (FAB-1500, CAB-1500L / TC, etc.) or
7 × 500 kg (CAB-500L / KR, BZ-500) or
10 × 500 kg (FAB-500, RBC-500) or
30 or 16 × 250 kg (FAB-250, RBC-250) or
38 × 100 kg (OFAB-100) or
7 × containers KMGU-2
Gun containers: 3 × SPPU-6 with 23 mm gun GSH-6-23 with 400 fn.
Hanging container "Fantasmagoria" for targeting missiles X-58
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  1. Hauptmann emil
    Hauptmann emil 9 September 2013 07: 35
    15
    The main thing is that the Syrians do not go too far with their sorties.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 September 2013 07: 51
      11
      yes ... perhaps this is not the moment to provoke on one’s own head, and the situation is already complicated. although on the other hand ... let them know ...
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 9 September 2013 08: 04
        30
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        not the moment to provoke

        An ordinary reconnaissance operation, of course, it’s not known what equipment is on airplanes, but at a minimum you can guess who and how many from which bases will fly to intercept, safe departure routes home, the situation at sea, and maybe determine the radar exposure. 100500 that the friends of Syria accompanied and doubled about flying up to interception and from where. In principle, the calculation is clear, the next check of the enemy about his location. I am sure the Syrian pilots did not intend to stream.
        1. svp67
          svp67 9 September 2013 17: 48
          0
          Quote: Sergh
          , of course, what equipment on airplanes is not known, but you can guess at a minimum
          But wasn’t our squadron collecting information in the interests of Syria at that moment ...?
      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 9 September 2013 09: 42
        +7
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        . perhaps not the moment to provoke is not worth it

        Getting ready for hostilities and not conducting reconnaissance? Well, here you are categorically wrong. This base is one of the likely ones from which air strikes can be applied. If it’s really Syrian, but on Turkish planes.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 September 2013 07: 58
      +8
      Quote: Hauptmann Emil
      The main thing is that the Syrians do not go too far with their sorties.

      There was a refutation that these were not Syrian planes, but Turkish ones.
      LONDON, September 8th. / Corr. ITAR-TASS Alan Badov. British Hawker Typhoon fighters stationed in Cyprus were lifted after unidentified aircraft arriving from Syria appeared in international airspace east of the island. This was announced today by the UK Department of Defense.

      On 3 of September, a battle broke out between the British and Turkish fighters in the skies over Cyprus.
      news.mail.ru/politics/14668729/
      1. Orel
        Orel 9 September 2013 08: 05
        11
        September 3 between the British and Turkish fighters almost started a battle in the sky over Cyprus


        It’s a pity that I didn’t start. It would be interesting to see the results.
      2. Sergh
        Sergh 9 September 2013 08: 09
        14
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        between the British and Turkish fighters almost started a battle in the sky over Cyprus

        Hello Alexander!
        Yes, these Anglo-Saxons will lie, not expensive to take. Like, they’ve heard that the Syrians flew to Cyprus, but they didn’t spot them in time, that's what they are looking for. Surely, the Turks would have warned the British about their flights to Cyprus, the situation requires coordination. Moreover, why should they be silent on the air, and then quietly wind up. There is something wrong in the English press. They drive the blizzard.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 9 September 2013 19: 11
          0
          Quote: Sergh
          Yes, these Anglo-Saxons will lie, not expensive to take.

          Yeah.
          The Turkish brick itself fell, then the Israeli 16th and almost a lizard with four axes fell.
          Mass case of some kind.
          And with the BC, like the Israeli ones, everything is not clean either.
      3. Tersky
        Tersky 9 September 2013 08: 13
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        On 3 of September, a battle broke out between the British and Turkish fighters in the skies over Cyprus.

        Hi Sasha! In Hochma it would be if they began to wet each other, and even harness the "frogs". As a result, Assad would be to blame for everything. laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 September 2013 08: 33
          +2
          Quote: Tersky
          . As a result, Assad would be to blame.

          And who else, it was he who misled the English aces, who, with fear, began to wet the Turkish laughing
          Hi Vitya hi
      4. smersh70
        smersh70 9 September 2013 09: 56
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There was a refutation that these were not Syrian planes, but Turkish ones.


        Here, stupid British))))) did not check .. scared .. wassat or maybe they flew to give up ......... fellow
      5. Sandov
        Sandov 9 September 2013 11: 22
        +1
        [quote = Alexander Romanov] On September 3, a battle in the skies over Cyprus almost broke out between British and Turkish fighters. newss.mail.ru / politics / 14668729 / [/ quote

        It would be nice to jackals jacked each other.
        1. Che
          Che 9 September 2013 18: 38
          0
          It seems to me that this is a duck. Syrians and Cyprus. I do not believe.
    3. avt
      avt 9 September 2013 10: 15
      +2
      Quote: Hauptmann Emil
      The main thing is that the Syrians do not go too far with their sorties.

      On the contrary, amers invaded Iraq when they were finally convinced that Saddam’s aviation had died without spare parts and maintenance. Well, here they slightly reminded that there were attack aircraft. Let them scratch their turnips - modernized or not, and that the Syrians can really hang them under them.
    4. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 9 September 2013 10: 16
      +4
      Quote: Hauptmann Emil
      The main thing is that the Syrians do not go too far with their sorties.

      And what so strange happened that should make the Syrian air force sit in hangars? Everyone flies and will fly if they are not destroyed.
      And then, from your words, it seems that Syria introduced flight restrictions. N_, didn’t Syria die!
    5. 0255
      0255 9 September 2013 10: 53
      +2
      The main thing is that the Syrians do not go too far with their sorties.

      THIS US IS BENDING A STICK, ANNOUNCING ALL COUNTRIES WITH OIL ZONE OF ITS INTERESTS.
      1. Hauptmann emil
        Hauptmann emil 9 September 2013 11: 16
        0
        The fact that the United States is going too far has long been clear to everyone. But Syria can deliberately / unintentionally throw "oil on the fire"
    6. Garyk701
      Garyk701 9 September 2013 11: 40
      0
      Yes, the right move. Once amers with the Jews feel the Syrian air defense tests of their missiles. Syrians, too, need to take measurements of how much time there is, where there are radars in Cyprus and in Israel. Let them know that they did not contact the Libyan punks. Training should be carried out more, lift quickly and a lot. Maybe they only have one chance to take off, so you need to train so that you don't lose this chance to nothing.
  2. Ivan79
    Ivan79 9 September 2013 07: 36
    +5
    Not all the same, amers with Israel launch rockets into the dark. The Syrians, too, are not sewn! smile
    1. Professor
      Professor 9 September 2013 08: 06
      -23 qualifying.
      Quote: Ivan79
      The Syrians, too, are not sewn!

      And what do you think is not sewn with bast? Is it that they "proudly" lit up on radars far from the Cypriot waters?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 September 2013 08: 32
        +8
        Quote: Professor
        ? Is it that they "proudly" lit up on radars far from the Cypriot waters?

        These are your Turkish allies lit up laughing It’s a pity that they did not begin to wet each other
        1. Professor
          Professor 9 September 2013 09: 56
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          These are your Turkish allies lit up. It’s a pity that they did not begin to wet each other

          Israeli Turkish allies? Is it after Marvey Marmara they became allies? By the way, NATO canceled a friend-alien identification system? wink
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 9 September 2013 10: 03
            +7
            Quote: Professor
            Israeli Turkish allies? Is it after Marvey Marmara they became allies?

            Hand in hand with a Turkish butcher, yours oppose Syria. I will no longer greet the professor with you, as usual SHALOM. Allah akbar will welcome you a little more, but if not you, then your government will definitely hi
            1. Alex Nick
              Alex Nick 9 September 2013 12: 26
              0
              It may happen that in Israel there will be no one to greet.
            2. Professor
              Professor 9 September 2013 21: 34
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Hand in hand with a Turkish butcher, yours oppose Syria.

              I'll cry now. Feelings take hold. crying
          2. Che
            Che 9 September 2013 18: 43
            +2
            Professor among you, there are wonderful representatives of the human race. Doctors, scientists who have given much to humanity. But why you in their mass are so stupid and bloodthirsty I do not understand.
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 9 September 2013 19: 02
              +1
              Quote: Che
              But why are you in their bulk ....

              It's so simple Watson. From envy and hatred towards those to whom Mrs. luck turned her face, not her ass, as toward those losers.
              They say that Fortune is one-eyed and her eye is on the top of her head. She blindly fumbles below, until someone falls into her paw. Catching, she begins to slowly raise her happy little fellow, and only lifting her high, she notices that she has not grabbed the one who should be. With a sweep, he throws it down and starts fumbling again in search of the right man.
              Here we are most often faced with those thrown out by Fortune. While they lived in Russia, Fortune raised them. When they left Russia, they fell into the clutches of a completely different Fortune.
            2. Very old
              Very old 9 September 2013 21: 40
              0
              Forgot. And what is the Holocaust? We got, let it hit you. Frenovoe ...
              1. Che
                Che 10 September 2013 07: 23
                0
                About the Holocaust. And how many Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians were destroyed by the Nazis? Where is the Holocaust. The Holocaust of the Slavs continues to this day. You yourself see everything.
      2. eplewke
        eplewke 9 September 2013 10: 03
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: Ivan79
        The Syrians, too, are not sewn!

        And what do you think is not sewn with bast? Is it that they "proudly" lit up on radars far from the Cypriot waters?

        The fact that a couple of such airplanes can spoil the entire British airdrome from such a stand. At least the runway. Yes, and intelligence will not interfere with the principle.
        1. Professor
          Professor 9 September 2013 21: 34
          -1
          Quote: eplewke
          The fact that a couple of such airplanes can spoil the entire British airdrome from such a stand. At least the runway. Yes, and intelligence will not interfere with the principle.

          Which airfield? They were spotted while approaching the territorial waters of Cyprus, if they had not washed off, they would have been shot down.
      3. uhu189
        uhu189 9 September 2013 10: 18
        +2
        Well, not you, we don’t know what their task was and for what purpose they were approaching Cyprus, and most importantly, were these planes Syrian. As experience shows in the media in recent years, a lot of heresies are
      4. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 9 September 2013 10: 26
        0
        so this is most likely the task and it was, they themselves will light up highlighting the enemy’s air defense, and even found out the time of the interceptors
      5. Muxalet
        Muxalet 9 September 2013 11: 48
        +1
        Flight Su-24 is a one-way flight. And the Arab pilots know this well and are ready for it. These aircraft were bought by the Arabs as man-made cruise missiles and carrying 6 tons of variously controlled explosives. Sushki with a full combat load simply does not have fuel for the return trip, they have a small radius of action, zoom, and fuel for only 30-40 minutes.
      6. svp67
        svp67 9 September 2013 17: 50
        0
        Quote: Professor
        And what do you think is not sewn with bast? Is it that they "proudly" lit up on radars far from the Cypriot waters?

        And the option that this was done on purpose, for opening the air defense system and control, is not suitable as an argument in defense?
        1. Professor
          Professor 9 September 2013 21: 36
          -2
          Quote: svp67
          And the option that this was done on purpose, for opening the air defense system and control, is not suitable as an argument in defense?

          Air defense is the destiny of the weak, the strong develop aviation.
          1. svp67
            svp67 10 September 2013 00: 25
            +1
            Quote: Professor
            Air defense is the destiny of the weak, the strong develop aviation.
            Israel, with its "iron dome" is a good example ...
            1. Professor
              Professor 10 September 2013 08: 00
              +2
              Quote: svp67
              Israel, with its "iron dome" is a good example ...

              Before you write nonsense, think. LCD is not an air defense system.
          2. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 10 September 2013 22: 03
            0
            Quote: Professor
            Air defense is the destiny of the weak, the strong develop aviation.

            Ideally, it is good when both are developed.
  3. Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 9 September 2013 07: 37
    +3
    formidable birds, well, how little you are not worth it ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 September 2013 07: 55
      +4
      Well, a little, not a little, but two dozen is a serious threat to the AUG "democratizers", they can get a lot. At the training ground in Magdeburg in 1983 I saw how they plow ... scary !!!
  4. Denis
    Denis 9 September 2013 07: 38
    +8
    the pilots were ordered to bring down Syrian aircraft in case they violate the airspace of Cyprus.
    That's when they would violate, then they would hysteria
    They moan like the Japanese from the Tu-95. It seems that they are looking for a reason, fairy tales about chemical weapons are already few
  5. bomg.77
    bomg.77 9 September 2013 07: 39
    +7
    subtle hint that they will be attacked in the event of an attack on Syria
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 9 September 2013 10: 10
      +1
      And does anyone think that after this demonstration their locations were not added to the list of targets for the strike? Although most likely they were on this list initially.
  6. duchy
    duchy 9 September 2013 07: 40
    14
    Best defense is attack. Not provoke, but scout. Hang on Syria !!
  7. mirag2
    mirag2 9 September 2013 07: 40
    +2
    Well done, God forbid, good luck to them. It’s only interesting what goals they were looking for in Cyprus? Who are the enemy’s ships?
  8. Orel
    Orel 9 September 2013 07: 40
    19
    There are at least two bombers. If at least one manages to get into the ship of the US Navy, then the noise in the world will be such that at least the whole of Syria is bombed, and the world will still see that the United States is vulnerable like everyone else. The USSR at one time debunked myths near Moscow about the invincibility of the Nazi army, and Syria is destined to destroy myths about the invulnerability of the United States ...
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 9 September 2013 09: 58
      -4
      Quote: Orel
      At least two bombers have

      but already one seems to be shot .....
  9. NOMADE
    NOMADE 9 September 2013 07: 41
    +2
    Quote: Hauptmann Emil
    The main thing is that the Syrians do not go too far with their sorties.

    Absolutely agree. But they hinted ...
  10. mirag2
    mirag2 9 September 2013 07: 47
    +3
    Yes, if the Syrians knock down a couple of American planes, the noise will be great first of all in the USA, where the society is very sensitive to their losses.
  11. Nayhas
    Nayhas 9 September 2013 07: 49
    +4
    Syrian Su-24MK * at work

    MiG-27 from Su-24 is no longer able to distinguish or do not care which photo to stick?
    What's the news? That Syria has two Su-24MK capable of flying into the air?
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 9 September 2013 08: 08
      -1
      Obviously, yes, the news is that the Syrians, although the air defense is weak at all, and can be destroyed in the first hours (I read the analysis of the Syrian air defense at ANNAnews.info), but they are still struggling. That’s obviously what they mean. can and how much they can.
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 9 September 2013 08: 50
      -1
      And in my opinion, this is the Su-24. The wings are swept. Although maybe the MiG-23. But not the Su-27.
      1. uncle
        uncle 9 September 2013 09: 39
        +2
        they tell you instant-27, not su-27
        1. FREGATENKAPITAN
          FREGATENKAPITAN 9 September 2013 09: 47
          +1
          That's right ... in the MiG photo ... but this is not particularly important
      2. egor 1712
        egor 1712 9 September 2013 11: 00
        +3
        Yes, the MIG-21 is on the screen, but what kind of modification I can’t say is not a clear video. A plane that is on roller in YouTube.
  12. NOMADE
    NOMADE 9 September 2013 07: 51
    +3
    Quote: mirag2
    Yes, if the Syrians knock down a couple of American planes, the noise will be great first of all in the USA, where the society is very sensitive to their losses.


    This will already be an unequivocal challenge to war .. Syria, now it is not necessary. And the flight, it seems to me, was for collecting (probing) air defense information, perhaps they had containers with "necessary" electronic equipment.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 9 September 2013 07: 55
      +1
      YES no, I mean that this will happen during the hostilities that the NATO will begin. Then, if they lose a few planes, the public in the States will react very sharply to the losses.
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 9 September 2013 08: 51
      +1
      Definitely intelligence. Together with the friends of Syria.
  13. ReifA
    ReifA 9 September 2013 08: 03
    +2
    They would be shot down.
    "* Approx.
    Su-24MK - modernized bomber "
    But bombing an aircraft carrier would be nice. =)
  14. NOMADE
    NOMADE 9 September 2013 08: 03
    +1
    Quote: mirag2
    YES no, I mean that this will happen during the hostilities that the NATO will begin. Then, if they lose a few planes, the public in the States will react very sharply to the losses.

    As far as I know, they've lost before. But again, the "flywheel" of censorship will be launched, and we will learn about the "alleged" hundreds of downed Syrian aircraft and single losses of the United States ... And lost, as usual, for "technical" reasons. wink
  15. pensioner
    pensioner 9 September 2013 08: 04
    +1
    Syrian Su-24MK * at work
    And is the Su-24 in the picture ?? It seems not like. Correct someone in the know ...
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 9 September 2013 08: 11
      +4
      This is the MiG-23BN, it’s amazing what else flies, and not the MiG-27, as Nayhas’s colleague asserts - they weren’t delivered to Syria ..
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 9 September 2013 10: 00
        +4
        Quote: sergey72
        This is the MiG-23BN, it’s amazing what else flies, and not the MiG-27

        The photo is blurry and the state of the cars is not clear at all. Perhaps the MiG-23BN, but most likely they pulled the first photo from the Internet and inserted it without really thinking about compliance ...
  16. NOMADE
    NOMADE 9 September 2013 08: 06
    +3
    Quote: ReifA
    They would be shot down.
    "* Approx.
    Su-24MK - modernized bomber "
    But bombing an aircraft carrier would be nice. =)


    unfortunately, we can only dream about it recourse
    they will not be let close to the aircraft carrier. Although if everything that they have (about 20 pcs.) Run at the same time ... then, purely theoretically, there are chances .. wink But it will be a one-way flight.
    1. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 9 September 2013 09: 50
      +1
      The loss of 20 aircraft is an incomparably smaller loss compared to the sinking of an aircraft carrier in which only the aircraft has a whole wing on board .......
      1. Alex
        Alex 9 September 2013 10: 17
        0
        Aircraft carriers are in the Red Sea and are not going to enter the Mediterranean, it seems.
    2. vadson
      vadson 9 September 2013 11: 11
      0
      if only yachts could be integrated on these aircraft one at a time then you could still pat the aug, but most likely this is from the realm of fantasy
    3. 11 black
      11 black 9 September 2013 12: 06
      +1
      Quote: NOMADE
      They would be shot down.
      "* Approx.
      Su-24MK - modernized bomber "
      But bombing an aircraft carrier would be nice. =)


      unfortunately, it remains only to dream about it recourse
      they will not be allowed close to the aircraft carrier. Although if all that they have (about 20 pieces) run simultaneously ... then, theoretically, there are chances .. wink But it will be, "one way".

      no - even 20 pieces will not approach the AUG on their own, so Syria would have such aircraft as the NATO Hawkeyes, and if we assume that these same Hawkai for some reason left their positions (as far as I know, 1-2 always hang in air above the AUG) only then there will be a chance to slap amers from behind the radio horizon, otherwise nothing ... but this is a dream, since Syria does not have any AWACS aircraft to guide its vehicles (However, with target designation, our ships can help), but here's how score a hockey in the sky? - if our interference turns on - then the war, and the Syrians have nothing to shoot down or drown it out.
  17. Koronik
    Koronik 9 September 2013 08: 07
    0
    I wonder if there is an opportunity to save their planes to the Syrians after a massive attack, or how everything will be almost destroyed in Iraq. If they do, I think it will be a completely different scenario for further hostilities.
  18. NOMADE
    NOMADE 9 September 2013 08: 07
    +4
    Quote: retired
    Syrian Su-24MK * at work
    And is the Su-24 in the picture ?? It seems not like. Correct someone in the know ...

    Judging by the characteristic lower keel, I can assume that this is a moment - 23.
  19. Quiet
    Quiet 9 September 2013 08: 09
    +1
    Quote: Denis
    the pilots were ordered to bring down Syrian aircraft in case they violate the airspace of Cyprus.
    That's when they would violate, then they would hysteria
    They moan like the Japanese from the Tu-95. It seems that they are looking for a reasonfairy tales about chemical weapons are not enough

    That's exactly what TALES !!!

    England supplied Syria with components for sarin production!
    British companies sold chemicals to Syria that could be used to produce sarin nerve gas, which allegedly killed more than 1400 people in a suburb of Damascus. According to The Daily Mail, between 2004 and 2010, the British government issued five export licenses, allowing it to sell sodium fluoride to Syria, one of the main components of lethal gas.
    Recently, British officials openly admitted that the supply of such goods was a clear violation of the international Protocol on the trade in hazardous substances. The fact that the government suspected Assad’s regime of stockpiling chemical weapons did not stop British companies from making profitable trade deals.
    Experts do not exclude that commercial enterprises in Syria, which supplied sodium fluoride, supposedly for peaceful purposes, played only the role of intermediaries. At the same time, Britain continues to insist that the customer of the deadly substances was not the opposition, but the Assad government.
    Parliamentarian Thomas Doherty, a member of the public arms control commission, called the event "a very disturbing sign." In fact, it turned out that British companies, with the support of the government, supplied prohibited substances to the country, which the West accuses of violating human rights.
    The Ministry of Business, Innovation and Vocational Education, which issued similar export licenses in 2012 (which, however, were not used due to the EU ban), refused to answer journalists' questions about which companies carried out such trade.
    Zarin, made by combining fluorine with carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and phosphorus, is considered one of the most dangerous chemicals. It is 500 times more toxic than cyanide. The entry of sarin into the lungs paralyzes the internal muscles, as a result of which the person suffocates. One drop of substance can kill in a few minutes.
    Scientists working in the Porton military research lab claim that this gas was used during a chemical attack on August 21 in the suburbs of Damascus.
    However, in July, British human rights activists demanded that the government make transparent transactions for the sale of weapons. The reason was the parliamentary report, according to which the state issued more than 3 thousand licenses for the export of military goods to national companies. Most military products were shipped to Israel, Saudi Arabia, and China. However, among the customers were also Syria and Iran. Such sales contradict statements by the British authorities that weapons cannot be sold to countries where internal conflicts or repression are possible.
    According to experts, the situation is caused by the fact that in Western countries weapons are produced by private companies. At the same time, a number of states have very flexible rules that allow private business to easily obtain government licenses for production and sale.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 9 September 2013 09: 23
      +2
      The newspaper Global Reservers writes that they are trying to trick Obama into a conflict in Syria! This is a waste maneuver, they say, they deceived us with a gas attack, generally, sorry for what ... What will happen?
  20. Cuba86
    Cuba86 9 September 2013 08: 30
    0
    In the current situation, on the part of the United States, and we should expect any provocations, give these minions of the dermocracy only an excuse to start faster. Assad is not stupid, I don’t think that it would really be Syrian aircraft, although, as they wrote above, it’s not like they really are.
  21. lotar
    lotar 9 September 2013 09: 08
    +1
    But I’m wondering if, in response to terror from the United States, launching about a hundred cruise missiles on their fleet from Syria, can their carrier formations survive? Who would like to see this in the event of an attack? I think no one would refuse.
  22. Storm
    Storm 9 September 2013 09: 16
    +1
    Mig-23BN is a fighter-bomber, its value as a fighter tends to zero. There is no locator - they will beat, they will not even let me close.
  23. Vlad_Mir
    Vlad_Mir 9 September 2013 09: 25
    +1
    And they have something to "shoot" without entering the air defense zone ?!
  24. Storm
    Storm 9 September 2013 09: 53
    +1
    If we mean the air-to-ground ASP (such as the American JSOW system), then Syria does not and cannot have such weapons. Most likely mostly uncontrolled AAS. There may be a small number of "laser" bombs or missiles.
  25. left-wing
    left-wing 9 September 2013 09: 54
    +1
    Oh, if only they would fly to aircraft carriers and bomb them, aggressors can only sober up such actions
  26. uncle
    uncle 9 September 2013 09: 59
    +1
    Quote: Black Colonel
    And in my opinion, this is the Su-24. The wings are swept. Although maybe the MiG-23. But not the Su-27.

    not su-27 but mig-27 or mig-23bn
  27. Storm
    Storm 9 September 2013 09: 59
    +1
    As a rule, destroyers of the "Arleigh Burke" type go with aircraft carriers with "Aegis" - no chances.
  28. Sirs
    Sirs 9 September 2013 10: 06
    0
    Is that intelligence reconnaissance?
  29. denson06
    denson06 9 September 2013 10: 09
    +1
    Quote: Hauptmann Emil
    The main thing is that the Syrians do not go too far with their sorties.

    God forbid .. Turkey, Israel and all their "friends" are just waiting for such a picture .. I would not be surprised if we see a provocation on this topic too .. Like: "Israel was treacherously attacked by two" ultra-modern "Syrian Su-24MKs and B. Asad sent them there personally ... ".
  30. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 9 September 2013 10: 10
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    Syrians also need to know the enemy air defense response time and the coordinates of air defense systems.
    everyone is preparing for the first act of the third world
  31. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 9 September 2013 10: 27
    0
    It can already be said that Russia, or rather Putin, did everything they could to protect Syria. Chinese help is urgently needed now. To hold a meeting of the leaders of Russia and China, a joint statement on its results, sending a solid naval formation to the coast of Syria. It is clear that Syria is an ally of Russia and not China, but such assistance is not forgotten. The monkey watching the tigers fight from the tree will remain a monkey. To become a tiger you have to climb and fight.
  32. uhu189
    uhu189 9 September 2013 11: 00
    0
    Quote: denson06

    God forbid .. Turkey, Israel and all their "friends" are just waiting for such a picture .. I would not be surprised if we see a provocation on this topic too .. Like: "Israel was treacherously attacked by two" ultra-modern "Syrian Su-24MKs and B. Asad sent them there personally ... ".


    It is very likely that you are right. This message is like preparatory information to prepare and warm up public opinion for upcoming events. And then suddenly unknown, supposedly Syrian, planes appear that are supposedly trying to bomb American ships, and then the United States and its allies will have their hands untied - a reflection of Syrian aggression against the United States. Another incident in the Gulf of Tonkin ... And there already the Security Council will not be able to influence this in any way.
  33. theadenter
    theadenter 9 September 2013 11: 09
    +1
    The command of Syria is completely headless, or what? Well, they’re not in the right position to make such jokes, at least crack!
  34. maniac
    maniac 9 September 2013 11: 13
    +1
    "Syrian pilots, seeing British planes on their radars, turned around and flew to Syria."

    Chota can’t catch up, what kind of radar on the Su-24, which can track air targets ?! Enlighten the guys, do not let die in perplexity.
    1. Muxalet
      Muxalet 9 September 2013 12: 00
      +1
      Forward-looking radar "Orion-A", passive radar direction finder "Fidin" is enough to detect a 200th generation aircraft beyond 4 km.
      1. VAF
        VAF 9 September 2013 13: 21
        0
        Quote: Muxalet
        passive radar direction finder "Fidin" - enough


        "Owl" on the Su-24MK? belay
    2. VAF
      VAF 9 September 2013 13: 10
      0
      Quote: manyak
      What kind of radars on the Su-24 that can track air targets?


      Only theoretically, if the Orion antenna is "driven" to the angle of attack ... then yes .. it can be seen. but only in the front sector ... it is necessary to switch to the MPM in order to somehow highlight the "goal", but this is generally ... a "narrow beam", so "the game is not worth the candle."
      Well, the "Mac" will only warn you from where (from what angle) a "present" from ... the enemy is flying to you. wink
      Those. author, as always. doesn't know what he is writing about soldier
  35. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 9 September 2013 11: 18
    +1
    Good plane, I climbed it in Kustanai.
  36. 11 black
    11 black 9 September 2013 12: 07
    0
    Quote: 11 black
    Quote: NOMADE
    They would be shot down.
    "* Approx.
    Su-24MK - modernized bomber "
    But bombing an aircraft carrier would be nice. =)


    unfortunately, it remains only to dream about it recourse
    they will not be allowed close to the aircraft carrier. Although if all that they have (about 20 pieces) run simultaneously ... then, theoretically, there are chances .. wink But it will be, "one way".

    no - even 20 pieces will not approach the AUG on their own, so Syria would have such aircraft as the NATO Hawkeyes, and if we assume that these same Hawkai for some reason left their positions (as far as I know, 1-2 always hang in air above the AUG) only then there will be a chance to slap amers from behind the radio horizon, otherwise nothing ... but this is a dream, since Syria does not have any AWACS aircraft to guide its vehicles (However, with target designation, our ships can help), but here's how score a hockey in the sky? - if our interference turns on - then the war, and the Syrians have nothing to shoot down or drown it out.
  37. ed65b
    ed65b 9 September 2013 12: 37
    0
    well done, shoot, at the same time feel what NATO breathes there.
  38. aud13
    aud13 9 September 2013 22: 52
    0
    The Art of War (Sun Tzu)
    The methods of warfare are based on deception. Therefore, when we are able to attack, we must look as if we are not capable, and when we use forces, we must look inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe that we are far away, when we are far away, we must make him believe that we are close.
  39. duchy
    duchy 10 September 2013 19: 35
    0
    Surely a couple more at low altitude and did not notice tongue