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"Unfinished" Chechnya still touches Russia big problems

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"Unfinished" Chechnya still touches Russia big problems

On the side of the terrorists in Syria are fighting several hundred mercenaries from Russia


Russia enthusiastically continues to bet on the infernal betting - whether Obama will order a strike on Syria or postpone it again to "clarify the details." And if it does, will it be full-scale, or will it turn out to be really “limited” or even conditional?

But there is in all this stories extremely unpleasant moment for us. Republican McCain could not even speak so frankly that Russia, they say, is next in line for “humanitarian aid” from American “partners.” It is enough just to look at the map and at least superficially analyze all the oral and written statements of the Western establishment to understand: we seem to be really on the line, and the fact that someone else probably took us is comfortingly frankly weak.

Aspiring in the 90's and zero years, the Caucasian separatists showed themselves in the way that those whom the authorities chose not to recall at all should have shown themselves. They, of course, crave revenge, but, of course, rely in their fantasies on the powerful rear in the face of the United States, which, in turn, have nothing against their free assistants.

Already in June, the head of the FSB of Russia, Vladimir Bortnikov, sounded the alarm bell: “About 200 immigrants from the Russian Federation are fighting on the side of terrorists in Syria. The danger of this action is that ultimately these terrorists will return to the countries from which they traveled. ” But why was this said? To the state did not decide at least seriously understand the very nature of this phenomenon? And in a good way, it would not be bad for Bortnikov himself to explain just how our valiant security officers had missed such an important point. Excuses can be given in response to myriad. Moreover, for sure, the already quick team of Bastrykin prepared the tactics for answering such uncomfortable questions. But, since the FSB has “woken up”, it’s much better to listen not to repentance, but to specific proposals, if you like - a plan to counter the threat of spreading unrest to the south of Russia (and even more so on the eve of the Sochi Olympics!).

Let Russia have no power over the madness of the American "hawks" and in response to their argument in favor of aggression, we can only plant hands, but to prevent the "remake" of Syria within our borders is the routine duty of our Federal Security Service. This is the image of a genuine, not a fake internal enemy, drew itself - our homegrown Wahhabis, whose aggression is multiplied by wounded pride and thirst for revenge. It’s time to get the filing cabinet from the dusty shelf, sit down at the agent’s materials previously obtained (here we proceed from the fact that all the sources for exposing and neutralizing the militants in the FSB’s arsenal are), prepare a plan to suppress provocations from our radicals ... I want to believe that, just stating the fact, as if completely cut off from the sphere of interests of the FSB, Mr. Bortnikov showed himself that he was waiting for someone to start to deal with it.

The threat of "new Syria" in Russia in an interview with a KM.RU columnist was evaluated by the vice-president of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems Konstantin Sokolov:

- In any case, quantitative characteristics are more visible to representatives of the FSB. Personally, I can’t imagine how many militants from Russia are fighting there, but I can well imagine that for the most part Russian mercenaries are from among those who come from the Caucasus, the ones from Ichkeria. This fact is well known. It is enough to get acquainted with the testimonies of Mikhail Leontyev or Marat Musin who visited Syria. There are photos of anti-Russian slogans written in Russian on the walls of Syrian houses. Mercenaries from Russia are the same fighters that our security officials are still fighting.

All reasonable and caring observers in Russia have an absolutely clear understanding that Syria is now the front line of our country's defense. Just so, this is not an exaggeration at all. It is enough to recall the very recent statement of the very famous American “hawk” John McCain, who, at the beginning of the well-known events in Libya, quite frankly said that after Libya there will be Syria, and after Syria - Russia. In this connection, we must clearly understand what is happening as the realization of the elements of a single plan. And the outflow there of a certain part of the militants from the Caucasus is a completely natural maneuver of the hostile Russian military forces.

- How likely is it that the mercenaries who have honed their skills from Russia will actually use them already in our country?

- This probability is directly equal to the probability that those who conceived to “democratize” Syria, and behind it Russia, will be able to fulfill it. And the only question is how to make such a scenario impossible, forcing the United States to abandon the idea of ​​a total world political reorganization, creating a new political map of the world, on which the United States alone will be. This map does not provide for the presence of national clans, national elites.

And in such conditions it is extremely important that all over the world local political and business elites fully realize the danger that their states may also be under the gun of Americans, that their current interests are to the detriment of the interests of the overwhelming majority of the world's population, and that it is a real, not ephemeral threat. If this idea reaches representatives of all countries, including those who are now acting as aggressors (and in fact are toys in the hands of the United States), then, I think, this plan will be foiled.
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  1. Orel
    Orel 9 September 2013 08: 09
    50
    “About 200 immigrants from the Russian Federation are fighting on the side of terrorists in Syria. The danger of this action is that in the end these terrorists will return to the countries from which they left ”


    If they return in coffins, then the danger will be minimal. And if not in coffins, then the task of the FSB is that they get there as soon as possible, since it is too late to re-educate them. Everyone knows how to deal with tower dogs.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 September 2013 08: 21
      +6
      Everything is clear with the scumbags, they fought and will fight, but the Chechens in general, who now live in the formidable, I don’t think. What they lack now, they live like a bear in an apiary. They are used to living a chic life and transforming their chic mansions, offices, Bentley and Mercier will not be in ruins. The toad will crush!
      1. Guun
        Guun 9 September 2013 08: 28
        +3
        I agree, the standard of living in Chechnya is pretty good. Full, dressed and with money to fight in his house to destroy everything? Unlikely. Rather, they will protect their values.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 9 September 2013 09: 06
          +9
          not bad enough? have you come from Chechnya for a long time? to speak, to judge by the standard of living in Grozny (and not about the whole of Chechnya) -it’s the same as talking to the provincial (living in the village) about Moscow-maybahs, rubles, billionaires .... like the level
          1. vladkavkaz
            vladkavkaz 9 September 2013 09: 39
            +1
            Hleb
            And how long have you been in Chechnya yourself and where to write that everything is bad there?
            1. Hleb
              Hleb 9 September 2013 10: 34
              +4
              Yes, I did, though time has passed. But what happens today there, I know. And I know not from the wiki, unlike you. Did you yourself study what is written on your link?
              Large enterprises for the production of food products: State Unitary Enterprise “Argun Combine of Bread Products”, enterprises of the baking industry, State Unitary Enterprise “Winery Naursky”a bakery and liquor is an industry? a reinforced concrete plant industry? so it is again not in the Shatoisky or Itum-Kalinsky area, which I wrote about. Power engineering? OJSC Nurenergo is the main enterprise in the industry in Chechnya. In the region are the Grozny TPP-1 (60,2 MW, does not work), Grozny TPP-2 (317 MW, does not work), Grozny TPP-3 (100 MW, does not work), Argun TPP (6 MW).
              well here! linoleum make
              In Chechnya, the Argun chemical plant producing linoleum operates.

              Well, with a dozen boilers in Gudera produce!
              when you wrote this yesterday:
              forgot how they broke everything down? And in the North Caucasus they broke it down so much that there is really no work to date?
              - affirmed, or asked? so why do people live in the mountains if there are problems with work? Decide already, otherwise you say one thing, then another. If everything is fine with them (I’d like to hear what it is), then which one is swollen there ?
              found indicators. In the Urals, how many factories, and ask people in the villages about their lives. In Siberia, how many combines? -also ask about life.
              1. Vlad 1965
                Vlad 1965 9 September 2013 14: 38
                0
                Your opponent does not say that everything is fine there, it’s just said that after complete disruption, something is being done, which means that jobs will appear, which means that there is less opportunity for banderlogs to recruit people in the bandit underground.
                "Determine already, and then there is one affirmation, then another. If everything is good with them (here they all want to hear what exactly) then what is thrown in there then?"
                found indicators. there are how many factories in the Urals, but ask people in the villages about their life. In Siberia, how many factories? -Also ask about life. "- DEFINE-who is to blame for the fact that all over the country, everything is in ruin?
                And it’s not necessary to nod at a nose that differs either in tradition or a lot of intelligence, which is used to the full fifth column, it’s obvious.
              2. O_RUS
                O_RUS 10 September 2013 01: 11
                0
                is the "valley of samovars" puffing?
            2. Uhe
              Uhe 9 September 2013 13: 15
              +2
              Everything is fine there. Until they get paid tribute. What happens when tribute ceases to arrive?
          2. Uhe
            Uhe 9 September 2013 13: 14
            +1
            Do not bother people to believe in "Putin's Plan" and other fairy tales;)
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 9 September 2013 08: 44
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They are accustomed to chic life and will not turn their chic mansions, offices, bentley and mercy into ruins.

        Well, yes, but these two hundred, (?) Scumbags will not have enough of all this. For such people, money is not happiness but revenge, and there are far from two hundred of them. (winkedWell, I gave laughing , poet Pupkin ..). Do not forget the wisdom of the proverb about feeding the wolf and remember that in addition to Chechnya there is also Dagestan, the KBR, where to this day it’s unintentional boradora.
        1. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 9 September 2013 09: 42
          -2
          Tersky
          Eka, a bearded man nemeryano.Well, give birth to a recipe, so that there are fewer of them, only sane, without some sort of assault and yelling, supposedly we bomb, we cut it to pieces, is there such a thing in your piggy bank?
          Let us recall a slightly different proverb — give free rein to the fool, his forehead will break, but he won’t do anything ..
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 9 September 2013 12: 38
            +4
            Quote: vladkavkaz
            Well, come on, give birth to a recipe, so that they become smaller, only sane, without some sort of assault and screaming, they say we bomb, we cut it to pieces, is there such a one in the piggy bank of your recipes?

            Well, it’s not tolerant, right away, it’s like you didn’t drank soup from one cup. Well, okay, let's go. At the expense of screaming, I’m not at that age to scream, bang legs, and yell that we’ll all bomb and mutilate. But just one thing is not clear - am I offering or trying to offer something? Or so by the way? Maybe have your own recipe? So share, many will be grateful, down to the president. In 2012, in the North Caucasus, 352 crimes of a terrorist nature were recorded (in 2011, 406). 2522 special events were held, 105 bases of illegal armed groups and 386 caches with weapons, ammunition and food were eliminated. According to official statistics, during special operations throughout the territory of the North-Caucasian Federal District, 391 members of the armed underground, including 50 leaders, were killed. 461 people were detained, 44 people appeared to confess. Thus, the total damage done by illegal armed groups amounted to 945 people. (Website of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the North Caucasus Federal District, 25.1.2013). http://www.kavkaz-uzel.ru/articles/224195/. This is only the tip of the iceberg ... It is enough to recall the arrest of the mayor of Makhachkala, Said Amirov ...
            1. Vlad 1965
              Vlad 1965 9 September 2013 14: 42
              0
              Tersky.
              Your answer certainly beats on emotions, it seems like it speaks in your favor, however, but what did you actually write different from the question asked to you?
              WHO sponsors the gang underground?
              Amirov was arrested, and so what?
              The bandits are beaten and they are right to do what they beat, but to beat, not to build, to break, not to build, then what?
              1. Garrin
                Garrin 9 September 2013 14: 52
                +2
                Quote: Vlad 1965
                but to beat, not to build, to break, not to build, then what?

                And who is building and building in a mined or infected area? First neutralize, and only then ...
              2. Tersky
                Tersky 9 September 2013 16: 06
                +1
                Quote: Vlad 1965
                , and what did you actually write different from the question asked to you?

                And what did they actually ask me? Asked for a recipe? So I didn’t pretend to be in the posting department. For this, there are heads in the power structures, let them think. As I am, you pay taxes for this. I only stated the fact that the number of bandits in the Caucasus is not decreasing, no more.
                Quote: Vlad 1965
                Amirov was arrested, and so what?
                belay And the fact that Wahhabism crawled into the power structures, is that your way?
                Quote: Vlad 1965
                what's next?
                The question is not at the address, turn to GDP.
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      4. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 9 September 2013 08: 53
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Everything is clear with the scumbags, they fought and will fight, but the Chechens in general, who now live in the formidable, I don’t think. What they lack now, they live like a bear in an apiary. They are used to living a chic life and transforming their chic mansions, offices, Bentley and Mercier will not be in ruins. The toad will crush!

        I also think so, they are being poured with money to bring down their passionarity, it is not so easy to get out of a state of relaxation!)
      5. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 9 September 2013 09: 23
        12
        They lived under the USSR much better than the Russians in their republic, but they did not want their brick houses and a privileged position. Not the people who lived in banditry for 500 years will live like that.
        1. Uhe
          Uhe 9 September 2013 13: 20
          +1
          In the Chechen-Ingush Republic, most of the villages belonged to the Russians, and the city of Grozny was completely Russian. These lived in the mountains. Khrushchev tried to lower them from the mountains and teach them work, but failed very well, so only descendants of those who tried to lower them from the mountains during Khrushche lived on the plain. They lived well in the mountains, I do not argue, but not much better than the Russians. That is why they then began to rob - envy and thirst for easy prey.

          In general, the enslaved life of Russians in the USSR compared to natives is nonsense. Rather, it is the other way around, but only because the natives are lazy, and those who worked prefer to stay close to the Russians, enroll their children in Russian schools and marry (or get married) to / for Russians, and then write down the children in the passport again Russian.
      6. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 9 September 2013 10: 26
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Everything is clear with scumbags, they fought and will fight,

        Hi Sasha. Let me disagree.
        Ever since Chechnya began to "forgive" the bandit militants, they have lived quietly and are waiting for the right moment to perform. Something, but they know how to wait! And those who are now in Syria, I suspect from among them.
        And probably yes, for the most part they are not urban, district, from villages and auls. It’s easier to disguise there. But, I have no doubt that there are urban ones.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 September 2013 10: 47
          +3
          Quote: Hedgehog
          Let me disagree.

          Yes easy. Hello Zhen hi
          Quote: Hedgehog
          they live quietly and wait for the right moment to speak

          Against who? Soon a whole generation will grow up who does not remember the warrior, and indeed against whom to fight. And most importantly for what ??????? There must be an idea that will promise something.
          And you know what I’ll say .... a person starts to thump when in his life something doesn’t work, and if there is work, family, the future why do I need a bottle (automatic machine)
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 9 September 2013 11: 27
            +7
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Soon a whole generation will grow up, who does not remember the warrior, and against whom to fight

            Almost 2 generations have grown since the eviction of Chechens to Central Ahzia. And they returned and started a butch. Settled in that zone were driven out, divided with Ingushetia, began to fight. Accordingly, not the old men with weapons came out. They (old people) only lit the youth. So it will be here.
            How many wolves do not feed, you yourself know where he will look.
            1. novobranets
              novobranets 9 September 2013 17: 33
              +1
              Quote: Hedgehog
              How many wolves do not feed, you yourself know where he will look.

              It just won’t go away, robberies are soldered at the genetic level, their entire history, the abreks lived in robbery. This is what made the Russian Empire carry out a wax operation in the Caucasus.
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 9 September 2013 18: 06
                +1
                Quote: novobranets
                robberies are soldered at the genetic level, their entire history, the abreks lived in robbery.

                Not on the gene, but on the cultural - the rest is true.
            2. Mature naturalist
              Mature naturalist 10 September 2013 00: 53
              0
              Quote: Hedgehog
              Almost 2 generations have grown since the eviction of Chechens to Central Ahzia. And they returned and started a butch.

              This is not the reason. Just in the 80s, after the discovery of the Tengiz field in Kazakhstan, the Tengiz-Novorossiysk oil pipeline was planned through Chechnya-Ingushetia. For transnational corporations, this is of no use, so the warming up of nationalism in Chechnya has begun.
              Today, the Tengiz field is 75% owned by the Rockefellers, and the pipeline to the Novorossiysk region was laid differently and called it CPC.
              Here are the reasons for the growth of Chechen identity.
              I read about this back in 1987 in Arguments and Facts. It was remembered, and then confirmed.
          2. Yeraz
            Yeraz 9 September 2013 11: 38
            +9
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Against who?

            Russian

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Soon a whole generation will grow up, who does not remember the warrior, and against whom to fight

            In the Caucasus, what a memory is very strong, and believe me, they have not forgotten the Caucasian wars of the tsar’s times, nor the deportations, and especially the last 2 wars.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And most importantly for what ??????? There should be an idea that wakes up something to promise.

            Destroy the invaders, invaders as you like call.
            you all the more know how many FSBs were killed by militants in Dagestan whose fathers are the heads of districts or not poor people, but they took weapons.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And you know what I’ll say .... a person starts to thump when in his life something doesn’t work, and if there is work, family, the future why do I need a bottle (automatic machine)

            Well, here you can say another proverb. We say it’s better to live like a Leo than 1 years as a ram, well, or to the Russian translation it is better to have 100 day free than a hundred years in a golden cage.
            They have a strong rejection of all Russian, and what you see is a screen, at the right moment it will go crazy.
          3. Tersky
            Tersky 9 September 2013 14: 07
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Against who?

            Sasha, even if we omit the first war, a question arises about the second Chechen war. Let me remind you - Budennovsk, Beslan, Nord Ost, it is enough for mine to answer the question against whom. It is clear that the percentage of adequate people in Chechnya is much higher now, but who can count those sitting in the "ambush"? I dare to assure you that the memory of the blood feud among the Chechens is phenomenal.
        2. Uhe
          Uhe 9 September 2013 13: 25
          0
          That's it. And the worst thing is that they rest on our money. Even in Turkey, they rest on the money that Russian tourists bring there, and then this money is used for the war against Russia and against Syria. Not only for weapons, but also for the restoration of bandits, who then shoot at our guys.

          Imagine if the Soviet troops did not cross the border of the USSR and did not finish off the Nazis in their den. Or then Stalin didn’t pay off — very humanly, by the way, pay off — with the traitors, and from this, by the way (out of 14500 called up to 13500 deserters, many sided with the Germans). A very similar case.
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 9 September 2013 17: 41
            0
            http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/625/juir859.jpg
            North Caucasian Regiment SS. I can’t get a photo.
            1. Day 11
              Day 11 9 September 2013 17: 50
              0
              And why did you get the idea that this is an SS? Or so, to exaggerate the colors? Can we develop this topic? Why post something that you have no idea?
      7. cosmos111
        cosmos111 9 September 2013 10: 49
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Able and Mercy will not be in ruins. The toad will crush!

        The toad will not crush. The mentality is this.
        They want to fight and will fight. If Syria falls with doubled spite. A third Chechen, or rather the 2nd Caucasian war is already underway. Look at the young Dagestanis, about 60% of whom are Wahhabis. And this is not counting Tatarstan and Bashkiria, Krachaevo-Cherkessia and td
        1. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 9 September 2013 17: 48
          +1
          Quote: cosmos111
          The toad will not crush. The mentality is this. If they want to fight and will fight. If Syria falls with doubled spite, a third Chechen, or rather 2, Caucasian war is already underway. Look at young Dagestanis, about 60% of whom are Wahhabis. And this is not counting Tatarstan and Bashkiria, Krachaevo-Cherkessia and td

          There are no Wahhabis in Dagestan, Tatarstan, Bashkiria, and Karachay-Cherkessia, at least there are 100 times less than in Moscow in the Kremlin, in the State Duma, in the FSB, in banks and in the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
          If Moscow is cleared of Wahhabis, in the rest of Russia they immediately fall into insignificance, without a mighty roof.
      8. Uhe
        Uhe 9 September 2013 13: 13
        +4
        When Russian peasants stop feeding them - and this will happen soon, because the bowels of Russia are not endless, and soon they will not be able to feed all the bourgeois and other parasites - they will stand up and go to fight. The worst thing is that they are deliberately resettled in the native Russian cities and villages. In Moscow, in every yard, there are already Chechens, at least in the majority. And they mobilize very quickly. The remaining natives are also divided into cells and are ready for action. Do you think the authorities don’t know about this? ;)

        It’s time for you to wake up and see what your idol is doing to the country;)
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 9 September 2013 18: 19
          0
          And what does our idol do with the country?
          1. Arabist
            Arabist 9 September 2013 18: 43
            +1
            And the arguments, in addition to the minus of the mind, someone does not have enough to bring?
      9. Tartary
        Tartary 9 September 2013 15: 11
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What they lack now, they live like a bear in an apiary.

        A joke inspired by the topic ...

        - the little bear in the zoo looks at the neighboring cage with a hippopotamus and thinks: - so would be cool. yes the honey would slurp ...
      10. dark_65
        dark_65 10 September 2013 20: 57
        0
        They will become, even as they become .. the experience of construction and restoration is accumulated, and whether we still have time to destroy the question. And what they remember is a fact.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 9 September 2013 10: 03
      +1
      You’d better soak them, or at least plant them for life, if your forehead is green, otherwise they can come to us and cheat a thread like a marathon again.
      1. ale-x
        ale-x 9 September 2013 10: 14
        +3
        I think with the Marathon it was clear to everyone who did this and for what?
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 9 September 2013 10: 47
          +2
          Quote: ale-x
          I think with the Marathon it was clear to everyone who did this and for what?

          Someone knows the Chechens.
          For what it is also clear, jihad. They wanted virgins. This is their "religion of peace."
          1. 12061973
            12061973 9 September 2013 14: 12
            0
            Quote: Nagan
            They wanted virgins. This is their "religion of peace."

            in this life, women are not given to the bewildered bearded men living in burrows, and so they are dreaming of guris.
      2. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 9 September 2013 10: 18
        +4
        Revolver
        To you, in the sense of the United States?
        So your United States itself is producing them all over the world and in BV, in particular supporting Al-Qaeda.
      3. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 9 September 2013 11: 43
        +1
        Quote: Nagan
        Better you dunk them, or at least plant them for life

        Well, as a matter of fact, Russia is doing everything it can in this direction. And if you shoot or plant everyone indiscriminately, your USA will be the first to declare the mitten about Russia's violation of human rights and freedoms. For some years, such an opportunity for the States themselves has ruined. But no, the "Assad regime" interferes with them. and the bandits never, especially if the states themselves raise those bandits. No, Nagantchik, it's your turn to demand from your government to kill the bandits!
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 9 September 2013 19: 26
          0
          The idea is correct. But for "Naganchik" you minus.
    3. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 9 September 2013 10: 17
      +3
      That's right, there were only 200 rabid jackals who ran to the jackal to Syria. Now it remains to help the Syrians to find their death there, and then in Russia, their relatives thought about what made such a jackal in their family.
      But, I’m tired of reading articles that objectively shake the situation in Russia — drawing the image of the enemy from the population of the North Caucasus — for the foolish, it’s not good idea that all the bandit underground is financed from abroad, the same Saudis, and this is possible as a result of actions, including and the inner fifth column, providing information and other support for the Wahhabi evil.
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 9 September 2013 10: 49
        +3
        Quote: vladkavkaz
        That's right, there were only 200 rabid jackals who ran to the jackal to Syria. Now it remains to help the Syrians to find their death there, and then in Russia, their relatives thought about what made such a jackal in their family.

        And from geyropa, mercenaries much more ...
        1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 9 September 2013 11: 25
          0
          Quote: Russ69
          And from geyropa, mercenaries much more ...

          They are there at the KMB, they will return, they will take up the matter already in the EU! wassat
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 9 September 2013 12: 51
            0
            Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
            They are there at the KMB, they’ll return, they will take up the matter already in the EU

            Yes, let them be engaged, with their tolerance, it is much easier. Kadyrov at least does not stand on ceremony.
      2. 12061973
        12061973 9 September 2013 12: 04
        +3
        here is one of 200 Abdurakhmanov Magomed from the Levashinsky district of Dagestan who worked in mentality; his father arranged a former ment there, he was a greedy, cowardly goat from childhood, and became a wah after studying in Egypt, called himself an abu banat and went to Syria, famous for the fact that Christian priests heads snapped in the video.
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    4. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 9 September 2013 13: 06
      +1
      Better not in coffins, but in bags.
    5. Parvulus
      Parvulus 9 September 2013 15: 43
      0
      If Russian lawmakers give a head start and equate "mercenaries" with "criminals", then the FSB will only have to collect the evidence base - and in the camps (by the way, the adversary has such a system already working).
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 9 September 2013 15: 49
        0
        First, to the camps, and then collect evidence base.
  2. Guun
    Guun 9 September 2013 08: 16
    +3
    In Chechnya, separatists will be crushed - this is a fact, Kadyrov does not know that if measures are not taken immediately, the spark will turn into flame, then only into a fire and fire. But at the expense of other regions of the Caucasus, things are deplorable. They wash the youth’s head, make cannon fodder out of them - because they don’t even know that they will commit serious sins, plus helping the United States and their bloody plan. Goebbels seemed to say - Repeat the lie a thousand times and it will become true.
    1. afire
      afire 9 September 2013 08: 41
      +7
      Of course, you will excuse me, but to present Kadyrov in such a context is somehow useless, because he himself is one of those, and there is no doubt that he will become one again when the political clearing changes.
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 9 September 2013 09: 24
        +5
        He has no way back, his own and peck first.
  3. mirag2
    mirag2 9 September 2013 08: 24
    +5
    Those who fought in Chechnya and began to avenge their relatives are still on the warpath, and naturally draws closer to the underground. And intersects with people who are recruiting fighters there, and among us Muslims there are believers in Salafiyya. it is not surprising that they are there. Moreover, during the Chechen war, if they survived, they turned into professional military men, and can do nothing else. And they fight skillfully.
  4. 12061973
    12061973 9 September 2013 08: 26
    17
    The title of the article is correct, and the article itself is incomprehensible. If the scandal raised Kadyrov due to the competition, then what will happen when Allah gives money will no longer be clear.
  5. optimist
    optimist 9 September 2013 08: 32
    21
    Our valiant FSB has long turned into an analogue of the banal oprichnina. Instead of engaging in their real business, the tops were mired in financial speculation and redistribution of business. All this radical-Muslim rabble could be transmitted 10 years ago after the 2nd Chechen one.
    1. Guun
      Guun 9 September 2013 08: 39
      0
      And what was Kadyrov doing? His sweeps are cruel (the family is innocent that the children are not good), but he achieved high results. In the end, the militants decided to go to death themselves than ALL relatives would die.
    2. Arabist
      Arabist 9 September 2013 11: 20
      -2
      Are you so smart I'll see? Settle in the FSB, teach stupidity. In England, something was not very successfully fought with the Irish (if you start to cite foreign examples).
      1. 12061973
        12061973 9 September 2013 11: 42
        +1
        Arabist you do not compare the Chechen Wahhabi with a perfectly sane Irish.
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 9 September 2013 11: 50
          0
          With a perfectly sane Irish? You tell this to my brother the sailor, he will listen with great interest. And read about the IRA attacks.
          1. 12061973
            12061973 9 September 2013 12: 08
            +2
            The terrorist attacks of Iraq cannot be compared to Beslan, Budenovsky, the capture of Nazran, etc.
            1. Arabist
              Arabist 9 September 2013 12: 14
              0
              They ceased to be terrorist attacks from this?
              1. 12061973
                12061973 9 September 2013 13: 29
                0
                Quote: Arabist
                They ceased to be terrorist attacks from this?

                no, they didn’t stop, but civilian casualties, it seems 17 people, the intensity of the struggle is not comparable.
              2. Uhe
                Uhe 9 September 2013 13: 31
                0
                Here comes the vengeful man, shouting out some slogan and farting on the bus. From this, his terrorist attack will not cease to be a terrorist attack, so he and Basaev - to gather according to craft. So what?

                The Irish were not just sane people, but they also fought for a just cause and with quite humane methods, exactly as much as a war can be humane, unlike these.

                And so, our Soviet partisans and their struggle against the Nazis can be declared terrorists. However, many do so, especially now.
  6. makst83
    makst83 9 September 2013 08: 33
    0
    I have no doubt that there are lists of those who are fighting in Syria, on the side of al-Qaeda rabble! It’s sad that there is no article for mercenaries, but if there is REAL evidence of their participation in the battles and killings of civilians and soldiers of the Syrian army, then why not give them to Syria (we can’t give them out by law, but we can close our eyes at least for a minute) ... and Syria will show, once again, our location and ourselves will relieve headaches!
    1. ale-x
      ale-x 9 September 2013 10: 18
      +4
      The article is just there ... (Article 359 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation)
      3. The participation of a mercenary in armed conflict or hostilities -
      shall be punished by imprisonment for a term of three to seven years with restriction of freedom for a term of up to one year, or without it.
      (in the edition of the Federal Law from 27.12.2009 N 377-FZ)


      http://www.consultant.ru/popular/ukrf/10_47.html#p6344
      © ConsultantPlus, 1992-2013
      1. makst83
        makst83 9 September 2013 11: 50
        0
        I apologize, I did not watch ((((Thanks for correcting!
  7. forester
    forester 9 September 2013 08: 35
    16
    WHO. in Chechnya, it is possible to consider failed, genuine patriotic heroes such as Budanov, Ulman and others judged and thugs amnestied, one of them was even given the star of the Hero of Russia, which is why they behave like winners, in fact, Chechnya has achieved what it fought for - to live apart inside Russia and at the expense of the rest of Russia
    1. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 9 September 2013 09: 45
      +2
      forester
      Full and stupid, to anyone, except for well-defined forces abroad and the fifth column in a nonsense country.
      1. Uhe
        Uhe 9 September 2013 13: 34
        +1
        And what, they were convicted of the case, right?

        Do you know why Kadyrov started yelling about the Chechens who were unfairly offended by the stupid competition? But because the prosecutor's office of the Russian Federation began to dig, why is the Chechen authorities interfering with the investigation of the crimes of the Chechens in Chechnya in the 90s. And he achieved his goal - he diverted attention from the most important issue. That is, Budanov, Ulman and others are guilty and punished, but the real "heroes of the occasion" are still at large and live well at our expense. Why did our soldiers shed their blood? For a world like this? Oh well.
      2. O_RUS
        O_RUS 10 September 2013 01: 21
        0
        Quote: vladkavkaz
        forester
        Full and stupid, to anyone, except for well-defined forces abroad and the fifth column in a nonsense country.


        Could you "unfold" your thought?
  8. svskor80
    svskor80 9 September 2013 08: 35
    +2
    The FSB needs to work more actively. Already send your people to the militants and find out who, where and where. And then it’s easy to let militants home only in the form of 200 cargo. I really want to hope that such work is underway.
  9. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 9 September 2013 08: 40
    +6
    The problem of Chechnya is much deeper and more serious than the "200 natives" who are fighting in Syria. It is due to the fact that at present Chechnya is not conquered, but pacified. And this appeasement is based only on subsidies (in fact, tributes) that are given by the Center to this republic, on ignoring their arbitrary spending by the leadership of Chechnya, and on turning a blind eye to the criminal (including in the economic sphere) activities of Chechens on the rest of the territory. Russia.
    A radical change in the current situation is impossible - Russia does not currently have the ability to "final" (and inevitably rather tough) solution of this problem. In fact, it is suspended for the future with the expectation of a gradual transition from the stage of appeasement to the stage of submission. Two troubles are seen here: will this stage come and when (about 30-40 years?) And will there be enough resources to pay tribute for so long?
    1. optimist
      optimist 9 September 2013 09: 01
      +3
      Quote: serge-68-68
      and are there enough resources - to pay tribute for so long?

      The "moment of truth" is already close: the Russian economy is close to collapse. And then many questions will arise to our "guarantor": why for 12 years did all of Russia feed a whole nation of bandits? It's a pity for the guys who will again lay down their heads for someone else's loot ...
    2. Hort
      Hort 9 September 2013 09: 08
      +3
      Yes, that's just the opportunity. Another thing is desire. Because according to the mind, if "the issue is finally resolved," then it will be necessary not only in Chechnya itself, but also in the regions of Russia, to liquidate the diasporas and ethnic organized crime groups in order to stop financial flows. And then the threads will go up, where to the local regional leadership, and where to Moscow
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 9 September 2013 10: 39
        +3
        Exactly! Need cleanings all over the country!

        The followers of those who "collaborated" with the Chechens in the 90s are now taking part in governing the state .... when Russian blood was shed in Grozny, houses were built on the ruble on the money made in this war ...
        The solution to the problem will lead to tangible damage to the current government, such incriminating evidence will emerge on "respected" people now, public figures, politicians, oligarchs that mom do not cry ..... they will not cut the branch on which they sit .......
    3. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 9 September 2013 09: 48
      +1
      How much can you give data on subsidies in the North Caucasus Federal District, by region, so that you can finally get it — the figures are quite consistent with the understanding — we will not build and rebuild the industry here, will we have a continuously boiling boiler, who needs it ??
      LITTLE NADDEMOVSKY will broadcast for a long time that some kind of tribute goes to the Caucasus ??
      1. serge-68-68
        serge-68-68 9 September 2013 09: 53
        +3
        Then, perhaps, can you tell me about any such industrial enterprises that have been built and rebuilt in Chechnya over the past 5 years? I myself know about Grozny-city, the mosque and other "industry". I also know where and what the Chechens bought in two or three regions of Russia.
        1. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 9 September 2013 10: 12
          +1
          serge-68-68
          Is it hard to go to the site and see what is built?
          Is stupidity born ahead?
          Learn
          http://newsruss.ru/doc/index.php/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%8B%D1%88%D0%BB%D0%B
          5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C_%D0%A7%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8
          And at the same time, take care of the question of who, how and for what pennies, is selling profitable posts, sites, etc. of interest to you in your region.
          Are not your local shots, so there’s nothing to blame for the mirror, since the face is crooked ...
          1. serge-68-68
            serge-68-68 9 September 2013 11: 27
            +4
            Breathe steady. And it may turn out that stupidity was born really forward.
            10% of own revenues from 60 billion of the budget of Chechnya. Of these, more than 25 billion "for a balanced budget" and all this for just over 1,2 million of the population. You can compare it with the budget of the Tambov region: for the same 1,2 population, 33 billion of the consolidated budget, of which a little more than half is own income. For "balance" - 7 billion. The GRP of the Tambov region - 149 billion rubles, and the GRP of Chechnya - 70 billion rubles. The budget of the Tambov region, which is twice as small, is spent twice as efficiently as the budget of Chechnya. True, we are not building the world's largest Orthodox churches, there is no Tambov City, there is not much else. And we do not speak through words that "the most difficult socio-economic conditions have developed in the Chechen Republic after two crushing military campaigns to restore constitutional order (1994-1996) and conduct a counter-terrorist operation (1999-2000)."
            And that the budget of Chechnya is formed by a special procedure "direct account" taking into account the maximally justified calculations of the need for funds for certain expenditures, previously submitted by the side of the Chechen Republic. "
            1. Vlad 1965
              Vlad 1965 9 September 2013 14: 49
              0
              In the Tambov region, fields are dotted with shells, and forests are mines?
              Was there a twice destructive war in the Tambov region?
              In the Tambov region, what is the governor doing? Unlike, for example, Belgorod?
              1. serge-68-68
                serge-68-68 9 September 2013 15: 58
                +1
                He is looking at what money is being given to Chechnya and thinking that it is more profitable to arrange a revolution than to work honestly.
                The key phrase of practically all information about the "hardest" situation in Chechnya is: "according to the data of the government of the republic."
                Meanwhile, there are nuances: for comparison, since you are talking about mines and shells: Kadyrov asked for demining Chechnya, "dotted" with mines and shells, 50 billion rubles.
                The Ministry of Defense, attracting private contractors, plans to spend 1,5 billion rubles. Even if the Russian Defense Ministry made a mistake, do you feel the difference?
                In the Tambov region, the war was more destructive than in Chechnya at one time. And no one asked for money. Tambov conscripts in the Second World War went to war and died like everyone else, and did not go to the mountains en masse and did not wait for the Nazis, but they did not ask for the rank of the city of military glory either. And since you know what the Belgorod governor is doing, then perhaps compare his activities with those of Kadyrov? I can help you (because I used to go to the Belgorod region to learn from me): Savchenko works, and Kadyrov demands free money, scaring different horror stories. And they give him money. Do you know whose? Including those earned by the Tambov region, and Belgorod and many other regions of Russia.
                Let the Tambov governor beat his thumbs (although the per capita income in the Tambov region is several times higher than Chechnya), but then Kadyrov is ringing a tambourine and a shaman. And Allah gives him money.
          2. dmb
            dmb 9 September 2013 15: 55
            +1
            I absolutely agree with you about local personnel, because they are like that all over Russia. There are pleasant exceptions, but these are extremely rare. The philosophy of the personnel is also quite understandable: "Why is it possible for Putin and Kadyrov, but I can't? I also want to join the Ozero cooperative. This time. However, you are frankly cunning about subsidies or you use information exclusively supplied by these personnel. These are only direct subsidies, and How many federal programs specifically for Chechnya? These are two. Well, and most importantly, you have hardly forgotten how the wars began. If you have forgotten, then it is not difficult to remember. Take the size of the Russian-speaking population in Chechnya in 1989 and now. I think you know what the "revolutionaries" did in 1991-1993. At the same time, and until that time, after returning in 1955, no one oppressed the Chechen people in the friendly family of Soviet peoples. Therefore, when they begin to talk about the horrors of war, one can only say: " We didn’t start it. ”You don’t moan about some of the mental trauma and inconvenience experienced by the German people in connection with its occupation by the Red Army in 1945? Or do you? is not clear.
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 9 September 2013 10: 52
        0
        At least a hundred times, everything is already on emotions ... Or they see, only what they want to see.
    4. ale-x
      ale-x 9 September 2013 10: 22
      0
      It seems these things are called "mines".
    5. Uhe
      Uhe 9 September 2013 13: 36
      0
      According to Musin, there are 4000 bandits from Chechnya, and they are ready to return to Russia, where they will be supported by the "peaceful" inhabitants of this nest. I advise everyone to get acquainted with his films.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 9 September 2013 16: 21
        0
        I don’t advise you to trust Musin too much. I stole the money from Bashar Assad. You think he is such a patriot, provides free informational support to Assad. I’m deeply mistaken! I don’t argue that there are (in ANNE) good professionals (Pavlov, Kuznetsov), but Musin ... !
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 9 September 2013 16: 47
          0
          Still ... presses on the patriotism and sympathy of the Russian people --- Throw the money and we will buy drones for them. Ugh ...! If you knew what grandmother Bashar allocated to him! Stole! What are these people called?
  10. gladiatorakz
    gladiatorakz 9 September 2013 08: 47
    +2
    The Caucasus will not always be a peaceful place. Until again, the number of Russians there will not be 80%. And so, how much money do not give, there will always be a hotbed of tension. And it will be easy for the enemy special services to rock the situation at the right time. Of course, nothing happens.
  11. Djozz
    Djozz 9 September 2013 08: 57
    +5
    Political will is needed, and there will be a second general Ermolov!
    1. 12061973
      12061973 9 September 2013 09: 27
      -1
      Quote: Djozz
      Political will is needed, and there will be a second general Ermolov!

      what came before the egg or chicken.
      1. Djozz
        Djozz 9 September 2013 10: 35
        0
        And what do you think?
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 9 September 2013 12: 56
      -1
      Quote: Djozz
      Political will is needed, and there will be a second general Ermolov!

      After the second Ermolov, we’ll get a few more Bislans ... Or do you think that when they kill someone, they will be silent without a murmur ...
      1. Djozz
        Djozz 9 September 2013 15: 47
        +1
        They recognize in the Caucasus, only reconciliation is regarded as weakness, it was so, it will be so! Unfortunately, the history of my ancestors gives me the right to say so!
  12. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 9 September 2013 09: 03
    +7
    As for the Americans' exclamations that Russia is next, this is all rubbish, their guts are thin on mother Russia, although we would have sheltered Benladen, and as for the militants, they had to be destroyed for a long time, but not exactly what they needed, but we could have destroyed them long ago, if not the traitors in the highest echelons of power who had recently done this, and not exactly didn’t give, but forbade them, letting them leave the encirclement with impunity, and after that they forgave them all, and awarded some of our heroes, and planted our heroes behind bars.
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 9 September 2013 10: 21
      +4
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      As for the Americans' exclamations that Russia is next, this is all rubbish, their gut is thin on their mother Russia

      And no one is going to attack. Now the "democratic" movement in Russia is being actively prepared. Pay attention - Navalny in Moscow grabbed almost 30% of the votes. And now it will be worse than 200 bearded men who may not even get there. It all starts not with the militants; in the beginning, the "democrats" and "liberals" stand up for changes in the country. It began everywhere.
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 9 September 2013 10: 51
        +2
        Quote: IRBIS
        Please note - Navalny in Moscow grabbed almost 30% of the vote

        Under the current government, it is not surprising ....... Yes, and this fucking one has been reverted by the current government ......
        Life is hard in Russia, they don’t live with us, but survive ... It’s not unusual that people want a change for the better, and this is what foreign intelligence uses to ruin our country
  13. Mite27
    Mite27 9 September 2013 09: 41
    +1
    We will wait 200 * cargo 200 *, but Iran will be the next after Syria.
  14. left-wing
    left-wing 9 September 2013 09: 50
    0
    Syria is not the last frontier, the last frontier is Iran
  15. Sirs
    Sirs 9 September 2013 10: 20
    +1
    Where are the numbers that 400 people from the Russian Federation are fighting there, so they were tracked and they are waiting with handcuffs. Or, on the way, they’ll kill them in some sort of outhouse. To water and once again water these tv..a..rei. Syria will stand for sure only if Russia is able to survive. And for the Christian shrine or any other shrine, these militants will answer to the Syrian people when Assad wins.
  16. nemec55
    nemec55 9 September 2013 10: 23
    0
    “About 200 immigrants from the Russian Federation are fighting on the side of terrorists in Syria. The danger of this action is that in the end these terrorists will return to the countries from which they left. ”

    Well, damn it, that any specialist who shoots from a gunshot can be calculated as two fingers obbasafalt. And then the COURT, SENTENCE, WHITE SWAN or 9 grams
  17. tarks
    tarks 9 September 2013 10: 26
    +1
    War always begins in the brain.
    Question: why do Chechen (and not only) boys end up in the ranks of militants?
    What is being done to prevent this from happening?
  18. erased
    erased 9 September 2013 10: 29
    +9
    Really someone remembered about Chechnya. She’s the most peaceful, the most developed, the richest ... Allah himself throws grandmother to her. Look what mosques have fallen, you can’t take your eyes off. And the city is as good as new ... but why how? He’s so new. Even 10 years ago there were ruins, but well, just a fairy tale! And the Czechs live in this fairy tale. Only at whose expense? The correct answer is not only due to the money of Russia, but also due to the blood that Czechs and other immigrants from the Caucasus shed on the streets of Russian cities. It’s like a small tribute of blood - killed people, beaten to death, stabbed to death, crushed by steep wheelbarrows, shot. These are Russian girls who are being raped. These are wild dances in the middle of streets and squares, sometimes shooting in the air, and more often at people. And weddings with shooting. And prayers in Moscow !!! on the streets!!! And this is in a secular state !!!
    These are bureaucrats of various ranks bought with giblets that turn a blind eye to the chaos of proud mountain lads, this is the police who pretend not to notice them. And when he suddenly notices, he rakes in full and then with a broken skull lies in the hospital and receives new ranks. And other policemen at this time pretend that they do not see anything, because they have already been bought.
    This is the spread of Chechen, Dagestan, Ingush, Transcaucasian "businessmen" in the north of the country, in Siberia and the Urals, in the Far East - new ulcers, new hotbeds of tension. Kondopoga, Pugachev and ten others, about which little is known.
    This is what the "half-treated Chechnya" cost the people. Her illness spread to her neighbors, and then to the whole country. And it is the common people who are puffed up. Because the authorities are still rubbing their hands and lazily squinting. Reacting only when the next crime of the "mountain lads" causes great resonance. Apparently it is beneficial for the authorities to keep Russians as sheep in the herd. They are forbidden to have weapons, they are imprisoned if they resist and defend their lives. Their complaints are not given a go.

    Is it Russia's turn after Syria? A mistake. Her turn had already come. In 1991, when the tolerant Gorbachev and Yeltsin killed a great country. And now it's just the time of the last stage. And the point is about two hundred militants from Chechnya. This is a drop in the ocean. The point is in the huge multi-million army of people from the Caucasus, Transcaucasia, Asia, who have long been here. Someone works, someone trades, someone steals. But when the command "fas" sounds, they will all take up arms. And it will become very fun and hot. But then international forces will come here to "save" poor Russia from ... well, they will come up with a wording there.
    If someone thinks this option is nonsense ... he is right. But what kind of thoughts flicker in your head when you pass by shopping nearby, where are the real Dzhigits? When do you see the fraternal faces of Asian guys in the robes of janitors serving the housing and communal services? When Eastern music pours out of cars flying along the road and arms stick out with pistols? When you read crime reports, names flicker all the time ... well, let's say, obviously not Slavic?
    And you say Syria!
    1. optimist
      optimist 9 September 2013 10: 42
      +5
      Quote: erased
      Is it Russia's turn after Syria? A mistake. Her turn had already come. In 1991, when the tolerant Gorbachev and Yeltsin killed a great country. And now it's just the time of the last stage. And the point is about two hundred militants from Chechnya. This is a drop in the ocean. The point is in the huge multi-million army of people from the Caucasus, Transcaucasia, Asia, who have long been here. Someone works, someone trades, someone steals. But when the command "fas" sounds, they will all take up arms. And it will become very fun and hot. But then international forces will come here to "save" poor Russia from ... well, they will come up with a wording there.

      The trouble is that most of the RACES do not understand this. And our contraceptive-"guarantor" hangs the star of the Hero to the bandit, pours him a lot of dough and allows him to behave like a medieval bai in his ulus. So all the questions are not to the blackberry races (what to take from them, children of the mountains fool ), and to the supreme power, which with its deliberate connivance does everything to incite an interethnic war.
      1. Hort
        Hort 9 September 2013 11: 43
        +1
        Yes, just a lot of Russians understand everything perfectly. Another thing is interesting: what is the government hoping for when the "bowler hat" overheats and still explodes?
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 9 September 2013 12: 59
        +1
        Quote: optimist
        The trouble is that most of the RASEAN

        To begin with, learn how to respect the people of the country in which you live, then only then make claims against someone.
        And then you always forever, then race, then by.d.lo.
        1. optimist
          optimist 9 September 2013 13: 09
          +1
          Quote: Russ69
          And then you always forever, then race, then by.d.lo.

          Looking at the behavior of most compatriots, I have very good reasons to think so. And if people gathered on this forum who (at least) are not indifferent to the fate of Russia and their descendants, then the majority lives on the principle of pigs: there is grub in the feeder, it does not drip from the ceiling, it’ll hurt yourself !!!
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 9 September 2013 16: 36
            0
            Quote: optimist
            Looking at the behavior of most compatriots, I have very good reasons to think so.
            I didn’t think that most of them think about you, just like that ...
            And if this forum brought together people who (at least) are not indifferent to the fate of Russia and their descendants
            Each has its own views on Russia and each has its own opinion, as it should be. And this is normal, because we are people, and programmed machines.
            the majority lives on the principle of pigs: there is grub in the feeder, it does not drip from the ceiling, all get hurt !!!
            It’s not worth it to hang on others, and even more so on the people ...
            Before you begin to respect you, learn to respect others.
      3. forester
        forester 9 September 2013 15: 41
        0
        everyone is so embraced by the authorities before this pseudo-hero Today, with a bitter grin, he received the news that the Heart of Chechnya has become the symbol of Russia
  19. Russ69
    Russ69 9 September 2013 10: 37
    -2
    Guys, I don’t understand one thing. In 91, we safely ruined the USSR. Now inciting ethnic hatred, we are laying the foundation for the collapse of Russia. The most radical nationalists propose to separate the Caucasus, because there are large subsidies. Well, let's imagine that we separated. And as a result, we will get Wahhabi states along the border with Russia, and then we will not only bail out money to defend the borders, but also put our heads once again, I am silent about geo-flight losses. Whom we can attract to ourselves, even if the regime is voluntary in our territory.
    After the Caucasus, there will be a problem with the Tatars, Bashkirs, or someone else. Kindle a national conflict is not difficult, throwing articles about someone killing a Russian (the fact that in Russia there are several thousand murders a year that no one sees, but 2-3 related to the natives of the Caucasus, are immediately inflated by the press and the Internet) or God forbid someone got more money. And what next, let's cut the country, there is still a lot of land ...?
    No one denies problems, but solving them is an extremely difficult task. In the world there are no clear and quick solutions to the settlement of the national issue. This process is long and not simple. And all the decisions that slip often on the forum are nothing more than a wave of a saber with eyes closed.

    From yesterday’s block Hard, just in topic.
    And most importantly, what my Ingush colleague has been asking me to write for a long time. Judging the Ingush by the behavior of individual young nerds in other regions is the same as judging all Russians by the behavior of tourists abroad. They just do not need to allow themselves to behave as if in Ingushetia they would not be aware of their behavior. Find out. Here, everyone always knows about everyone. And then these nerds come back and are sad that their parents threw the bride. Take care of the honor from the young. This is Ingush youth - heated by Russian culture)
    http://hardingush.livejournal.com/105207.html
    1. left-wing
      left-wing 9 September 2013 10: 55
      0
      I fully support the author, I see no reason to once again divide the single national diversity of a great country, since they have already done so, and it’s only profitable for the enemies of Russia to do this again.
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 9 September 2013 13: 10
      0
      Judging by the minuses, the successors of the case of Gorbachev and Yeltsin are still enough ...
      1. Hort
        Hort 9 September 2013 14: 02
        +1
        I wanted to minus for the phrase "we destroyed the USSR", but changed my mind :)
        Because it’s better to argue: who are we, interesting? For example, let’s say in the year 91 there were 7 or 8 years. Yes, and parents were not seen in the collapse, on the contrary, they worked for the good of the Motherland - father in the Central Arctic expedition, mother in the sanitary and epidemiological station.

        I do not dispute the fact that the Union collapsed. But to say that this made the population somewhat wrong
  20. nod739
    nod739 9 September 2013 10: 37
    0
    Quote: Orel
    And if not in coffins, then the task of the FSB is that they get there as soon as possible, since it is too late to re-educate them. Everyone knows how to deal with tower dogs.

    absolutely agree, you +
    I'll add% from myself
    a rotting wound is burned with a hot iron
  21. Denga
    Denga 9 September 2013 10: 48
    +1
    Russia really needs peace now, as a big fight could begin in the Middle East. The final address will be the Russian Federation and China. I think this is one of the reasons why the authorities have to put up with a number of problems in the Caucasus.
  22. Garrin
    Garrin 9 September 2013 10: 48
    +3
    The FSB is currently losing in all positions. It is necessary to eradicate Wahhabism as a cancer tumor, and not only in Russia, but in the entire post-Soviet space and to do this as an oncological operation - everything, until the last metastasis. The FSB is now passive and is losing the main thing - initiative. The time factor works against us. We must act as strictly as possible, using all methods, both legal and illegal, otherwise it will be too late, if not too late, judging by the fact that the Wahhabis feel very comfortable even in Moscow and St. Petersburg.
    PS So the GRU dispersal starts to come around.
    1. Samy
      Samy 9 September 2013 12: 47
      0
      I just can’t understand why we don’t use their own weapons, namely the internal problems of the States. There are separatist sentiments, and the fragmentation of the United States and national problems and financial ... everything is the same as ours, if not worse.
      1. T80UM1
        T80UM1 9 September 2013 14: 00
        +1
        No money, therefore, do not use
  23. Samy
    Samy 9 September 2013 12: 13
    +1
    Quote: Garrin
    The time factor works against us. We must act as strictly as possible, using all methods, both legal and illegal, otherwise it will be too late, if not too late, judging by the fact that the Wahhabis feel very comfortable even in Moscow and St. Petersburg.
    Absolutely fair. Just nothing to add, removed from the tongue.
  24. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 9 September 2013 12: 36
    0
    It seems to me that under the new Chechnya Putin will no longer be ceremonious. The days of the puppets of the West have passed and Putin has grown mentally: they will compare any village wherever it is with the land, without any talk of humanism and at the same time will be supported by the central media and the people.
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 9 September 2013 12: 49
      0
      The villages used to be equal even under Boris Sorokogradusnaya. So now it is even more possible.
  25. ed65b
    ed65b 9 September 2013 12: 41
    0
    Huynia is all that will come will remain in the mountains and on the plains in the pits are dead. Other countries also flee to Syria because they don’t want to wet them there as much as ours. Therefore, they settled there, and their jihad in Russia will not return back; this is death for jihadists.
  26. Sergeant
    Sergeant 9 September 2013 12: 53
    +1
    "" Untreated "Chechnya will still backfire on Russia with big problems" ...
    This is a warning? ... or a hint like "Russia is better off dealing with its own problems (Chechnya, for example), and not pushing for the independence of distant Syria." Otherwise the militants will come to you, Russians ...
    It is clear that they will come .. And it is clear that the Russian special services have long known this and are working on this topic .. What's new in the article?
    Why and why THIS "scary" picture (black burqas, automatic machine ..)? Are you scaring? Then the picture seems to be out of topic: on the side of the photo it says "..Syria Freedom" (.. "Free Syria"). This is probably a photograph from one of the actions of the Syrian population for the Freedom of Syria. What has the "under-treated" Chechnya to do with it?
  27. Legioner_YU
    Legioner_YU 9 September 2013 13: 08
    -1
    counted via translit

    It will be like this -
    Dagestan Magomed Abdurakhmanov, fighting on the side of al-Qaeda, kills three Christian priests near the village of Mashhad Rukhin
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=854_1377509866

    taken from http://lenta.ru/comments/news/2013/09/09/flee/

    Pay attention to the undisguised joy of forum "common people" from one "God-chosen" country!
    1. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 9 September 2013 14: 52
      -1
      Sew this wahhabi monkey into pork skin and send it to relatives.
      And the promises of people from different forums to remember and spread rot mercilessly. This is the same manifestation of the Fifth Column on the Internet, not otherwise.
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 9 September 2013 16: 21
      -1
      Quote: Legioner_YU
      It will be like this -
      Dagestan Magomed Abdurakhmanov, fighting on the side of al-Qaeda, kills three

      One fool in Russia is less. They can return here now, except to die.
  28. Egor.nic
    Egor.nic 9 September 2013 14: 03
    +4
    The clumsy article promotes panic and plays the role of a blunt check of the situation. In addition, for those who are now fatly in Chechnya and in the North Caucasus, neither a war nor an open quarrel with Russia is profitable. This will be fraught with serious consequences, conversations with them are conducted in advance.
    And in conclusion, if all the same, some stupid abreks have a desire to fight, then this will be the last war for the whole Caucasus and Asia .... They will simply flood it with napalm so as not to waste time, people and money .... For two days the whole problem will be solved. After that, all of Asia will tighten the tail.
    Any evil against Russia should be punished with justice.
    Well, to counteract the dirty tricks of the abreks inside the territory of cities and settlements of Russia - remember their places of residence, work, the location of outlets, offices, restaurants, etc. If necessary, all this should be localized and cleaned up to "0", even by the local population itself. And believe me, they are cowardly and terribly afraid of you, and from this they, from small to large, and from males to females, hate you. Sometimes there is nobility, intelligence and decency among them, but very, very, very rarely - but these are completely different people.
    And remember the words of General Ermolov: - "A good abrek is a dead abrek."
  29. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 9 September 2013 15: 25
    0
    terrorists will not return here if we carry out a mass sweeping operation with the eviction of Caucasians, Asians from Russia, and so that they have no one to come here to
  30. Druid
    Druid 9 September 2013 15: 35
    +3
    Quote: forester
    genuine patriotic heroes such as Budanov, Ulman and others

    The commanders made the first and second fathers switchman and gave them to be eaten. But why are they patriotic heroes? There already had to write in an article about the sergeant who saved the children and the teacher - such as he is the heroes whose glory and deeds would decorate any army, they are the salt of the people, and not those whom you mention, replacing white with black.
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    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 9 September 2013 18: 19
      +3
      Quote: ROA
      Chechnya must be treated with Yermolov’s methods, namely genocide and scorched earth.

      Well, go outside and go to a Chechen with genocide or it’s easier to genocide on the Internet)))) And by the way, how are angry Anglo-Saxons doing genocide, and Russian peaceful furry people have never resorted and will not resort to such methods, in what is the difference between you or will it still not be? wink
    2. Essenger
      Essenger 10 September 2013 22: 28
      +2
      You have a fat minus.
  32. Druid
    Druid 9 September 2013 16: 15
    +4
    Quote: ROA
    read by Ermolov’s methods, namely genocide and scorched earth.

    Or maybe just leave people alone? The same Chechens were taken out by the Wahabbits, the Kadyrovites, and the federals already. The whole mess was started by a drunkard who was sitting in Moscow, and not in Grozny and not Chechens as a people. Yes, they do not like Russians, everyone knows the reason, but this is not a reason for genocide and wars. Moreover, they committed genocide and scorched earth for several years, but what's the point? It still doesn’t reach, since nothing came of it, doesn’t this solve the problem?
    The trouble of Russia is that there are no competent people among decision-makers and policy makers in the Caucasus, the majority argues either like you or on the principle of Putin, who put Kadyrov, and the biggest trouble is that Russia is in a mess.
    What to talk about when the devil was going on and going on. To the officer, in the form of a! Foreign army! (Well, there is no way to confuse him), at the station in the Ministry of Water, he rushed in search of protection for an incomprehensible man with a broken physique. Well, even if the cops got late, they probably wrote in the attachment or something else. Everything turned out to be simple, an incomprehensible person, turned out to be a contract soldier (God of war) beaten with crowbars at the station. The cops elementary put him on the headstock, because for that period, as I was later explained, the military and other paid in Chechnya. Note dear, and the contractor and crowbars, all were Slavs, an officer of the Russian army who was observing from the car did not even go out on the platform. Those who did not serve in the army in Russia are also not hired by the police. The contractor later lamented that he didn’t have time to leave with the fes, saying that for some bribe (!!!) they took them out and put them on the train, and after Rostov nobody touched them.
    So who and by what means / tools will restore order in Chechnya? A thief will come in uniform from Moscow and put things in order - I think not. The army will come and it will be betrayed several times and it will restore order - no. So who then?

    The Caucasus will leave, if everything continues this way, and Moscow itself is to blame.
    1. ROA
      ROA 9 September 2013 16: 40
      +2
      Only now scum Chechen Russian slaughtered since the 90s. And fag Kadyrov at the age of 16 killed the first Russian, and now he walks with the star of the hero.
  33. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 9 September 2013 16: 19
    +1
    Sokurov about the Chechens:
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 9 September 2013 16: 39
      0
      Quote: Yarosvet
      Sokurov about the Chechens:

      On the forum, there are enough Caucasians who speak very differently ...
  34. Russ69
    Russ69 9 September 2013 16: 23
    +1
    Putin’s statement on the Caucasus today ...

    "Despite the obvious positive shifts, the state of affairs in the North Caucasus is improving too slowly. The terrorist threat and security challenges have not been completely eliminated," Putin said at an expanded meeting of the Russian Security Council. In this regard, he called on "to mobilize all power structures to ensure law and order and public safety," Interfax reports.
    The President also called for a tough response to attempts by a number of countries and international organizations to destabilize the situation in the North Caucasus.
  35. repytw
    repytw 9 September 2013 17: 05
    0
    Quote: Russ69
    Quote: Djozz
    Political will is needed, and there will be a second general Ermolov!

    After the second Ermolov, we’ll get a few more Bislans ... Or do you think that when they kill someone, they will be silent without a murmur ...


    If there is even one Ermolov in Russia, then Bislanov will not be exact, the population of the Caucasus will be reduced by half, and the second half will frighten their children with Cossacks. But this requires political will, even Stalin humanely managed only to send to Kazakhstan, they should pray for him.
  36. Russ69
    Russ69 9 September 2013 17: 09
    -2
    Quote: repytw
    If there is even one Ermolov in Russia, then Bislanov will not be exact, the population of the Caucasus will be reduced by half, and the second half will frighten their children with Cossacks.

    Why, why, but they cannot be called cowards. So far, unfortunately, we groan more, about the terrible Caucasians in the army, when three are building a company ...
    And if they destroy you, there will be only one way out, to take as much as possible ...
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 9 September 2013 17: 33
      +3
      Quote: Russ69
      Why, why, but they cannot be called cowards. So far, unfortunately, we groan more, about the terrible Caucasians in the army, when three are building a company ... And if you are destroyed, there will be only one way out, to take as much as possible ...

      They can’t be called people, but they have always been scoundrels and cowards. Only pathetic cowards, without honor and conscience, hide behind the backs of pregnant women and children, as in Budenovsk.
      If the Kremlin did not protect the Caucasian bandits, the Russian people would have rid their country of these disgusting rats long ago.
      It is worth the Russians to crush the savages in the army, in the navy, in the civilian, as soon as they quickly get out of the internal organs, like Mr. Sewers, corrupt garbage and prosecutors with lawyers and punish not the savages and bandits, but the Russians. At the most for obvious proven killings and violence, they are given suspended sentences. That villains and impudent.
  37. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 9 September 2013 17: 21
    0
    Aspiring in the 90's and zero years, the Caucasian separatists showed themselves in the way that those whom the authorities chose not to recall at all should have shown themselves. They, of course, crave revenge, but, of course, rely in their fantasies on the powerful rear in the face of the United States, which, in turn, have nothing against their free assistants.

    There was no need to babysit the separatists in the 90s and XNUMXs, it was necessary, since it came to war, to beat all these gangster rats for complete destruction, and not to pretend "police operations in a peaceful country." All the same, Russia was portrayed as a country where the "rebels" were being crushed, so it was necessary to crushed them in full.
    And the mercenaries need to be wet during detention, why the hell Russia needs these filthy creatures alive? We have that in the country they produce little rounds, or is there no one to shoot?
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 9 September 2013 17: 26
      +2
      Remember the crowds of liberals broadcasting on NTV about the just struggle of the "field commanders" with the insidious Russians and everything will become clear to you, they were not allowed to finish them off at that time, but who did not give this just a case for the FSB and the prosecutor's office, and the case of treason no statute of limitations.
  38. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 9 September 2013 18: 04
    0
    Quote: Russ69
    On the forum, there are enough Caucasians who speak very differently ...

    In some peoples, due to their cultural characteristics, words almost always diverge from deeds.
  39. Russ69
    Russ69 9 September 2013 18: 15
    0
    Yarosvet, we will also judge Russians by the example of Vinogradov, who shot six colleagues in the capital’s office or Serdyukov, or an idiot who shot people for not selling cartridges to him.

    Fools, are everywhere and will, unfortunately ...
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 9 September 2013 18: 34
      0
      Quote: Russ69
      Fools, are everywhere and will, unfortunately ...
      No, we can certainly talk about stupidity in relation to the Caucasus, only this will not correspond to reality.

      As the saying goes - "it seems we began to forget ..." (so, by the way - the "hero of Russia" killed the first Russian in 92-93)
  40. Russ69
    Russ69 9 September 2013 18: 50
    0
    Quote: Yarosvet
    As the saying goes - "it seems we began to forget ..."

    No one says that we must forget ... But if you put yourself in the place of the Chechens, then there will be a bunch of claims for bombing, not a few residents have died there too. I’m not protecting someone now, but always blaming each other, just add oil to the fire. And then there will be new victims, and so on to infinity. But who will win? Obviously not Chechens and not us.
    I repeat once more; There are no ready-made solutions to national problems. The question is too complicated, and if it can be somehow solved, then only after a certain time, but obviously not quickly.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 9 September 2013 19: 03
      0
      Quote: Russ69
      But if you put yourself in the place of the Chechens, then there will be a bunch of claims for bombing, not a few residents have also died there.
      Who started?

      And then there will be new victims, and so on to infinity.
      So the process does not stop - new victims appear all the time. If there were no new victims, there would be no problem.

      But who will win? Obviously not Chechens and not us.
      Explain this to a people whose culture is the deception, robbery, and murder of anyone who is not a conservative or fellow believer.

      I repeat once more; There are no ready-made solutions to national problems. The question is too complicated, and if it can be somehow solved, then only after a certain time, but obviously not quickly.
      There are ready-made solutions, the issue is resolved quickly - time is needed only to consolidate the results.
  41. Druid
    Druid 9 September 2013 19: 36
    +1
    Quote: ROA
    Only now scum Chechen Russian cut since the 90s.
    Scum everywhere is enough. And about it they cut it, everyone cut it, whoever cut their heads, and who, for example, cut their throats, cut off their ears, in a large city east of Moscow, I saw somehow a modest three-liter jar with ears.
    The treatment of prisoners and the population in the CIS is something else. I’ll cut the devil with him somehow, especially gifted, I won’t show with my finger, I don’t see anything better for myself except to rape the skinny soldier ... opu. The tragedy of an almost biblical people, their beloved donkeys do not survive under shelling, and their wives are far away.
  42. repytw
    repytw 9 September 2013 22: 06
    +2
    Quote: Russ69
    Quote: repytw
    If there is even one Ermolov in Russia, then Bislanov will not be exact, the population of the Caucasus will be reduced by half, and the second half will frighten their children with Cossacks.

    Why, why, but they cannot be called cowards. So far, unfortunately, we groan more, about the terrible Caucasians in the army, when three are building a company ...
    And if they destroy you, there will be only one way out, to take as much as possible ...



    Let our Russian soldier feel unpunished and master of what he takes in a fight, poor Caucasus, I regret him. We have been accustomed to law abiding for 20 years, to be cattle. Look at the army who is humiliated, calm, not conflicting young men, scumbags, even if they are not depressed a hundred times by the Russians. There are two options, to bring up scumbags from children or to our fathers to free Russia from other scumbags.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 10 September 2013 01: 22
      +2
      Quote: repytw
      There are two options, to bring up scumbags from children or to our fathers to free Russia from other scumbags.

      Or maybe it’s worth educating not scumbags, but worthy young men with honor and dignity who will fight back scumbags ??? This is all an excuse for the weakness and worthlessness of some personalities. A normal guy does not have to be a scumbag to repulse.