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Chinese helicopter Z-19 close up

Beautiful photos of the Chinese Zhi-19 light attack helicopter close-up from the exposition of the second international helicopter exhibition in Tianjin.

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    NOMADE 9 September 2013 08: 19
    Interesting bird. Strongly recalled light attack helicopter - Tiger.
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 9 September 2013 09: 31
      It looks like a flea, and it probably bites painfully ...
      1. Login_Off
        Login_Off 9 September 2013 10: 15
        It only gives me the impression that this is from the category of an Iranian invisible plane?
        Very reminiscent of an expensive children's toy, true for adults and a quality toy :)
        1. KG_patriot_last
          KG_patriot_last 9 September 2013 11: 37
          unfortunately, the Chinese economy can produce hundreds of such "toys" ...
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 9 September 2013 20: 56
            Quote: KG_patriot_last
            unfortunately, the Chinese economy can produce hundreds of such "toys" ...

            Ours would not help - what the hell would they let out. Our half drew them, well, and let them out here themselves ......
            1. Apologet.Ru
              Apologet.Ru 9 September 2013 21: 56
              As far as I know, this pretty pepelats was created with the active participation of the Kamov design bureau.
              A novelty of the Chinese aircraft industry - the Z-10 combat helicopter, first presented at the Airshow China 2012 in Zhuhai - was built according to the Russian 941 project, developed back in the 1995 year. About this at the Heli-Expo exhibition, held in Las Vegas, said the general designer of "Kamov" Sergei Mikheev. According to him, the design was commissioned by the Chinese government in accordance with the requirements for a helicopter weighing six tons.
        2. ildar335
          ildar335 9 September 2013 16: 10
          AUTUMN QUALITY toy !!!))))
    2. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 9 September 2013 17: 25
      Quote: NOMADE
      Interesting bird. Strongly recalled light attack helicopter - Tiger.

      Unih traditionally, each instance of technology is reminiscent of something. Yaby said that there is more to Huey being traced. Well, always look for three ancestors. The muzzle is incomprehensible of what, the tail is the Ouagusta cabin from the Hugh Cobra ... the chassis from the Apache ... etc. In general, they know how to pull solutions and put them in a heap.
  2. Samy
    Samy 9 September 2013 08: 27
    Well ... like everything is Chinese, painted well ...
  3. Storm
    Storm 9 September 2013 08: 35
    A hellish mix of different helicopters. Chinese breeding in action :). There are French "Dauphin" and "Tiger" and something from "Agusta"
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 9 September 2013 09: 55
      Quote: Sturm
      A hellish mix of different helicopters. Chinese breeding in action :). There are French "Dauphin" and "Tiger" and something from "Agusta"

      It may happen (and this is where it goes) that the Chinese "comrades", having passed the stage of copying, will develop their own school of designing rotorcraft of various classes.

      And the question is: can anyone tell me if the Z-19 was presented at MAX? hi
  4. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 9 September 2013 09: 01
    Can a pretty guy fly? lol
    NOMADE 9 September 2013 09: 17
    Quote: Asan Ata
    Can a pretty guy fly? lol

    Don’t underestimate them like that .. wink
    The time when they smelted "high-quality steel" from rusty nails in each yard has already passed. )
    Cooperation "Agusta" I think went to their advantage. Therefore, I will dare to assume that the helicopter came out not bad.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 9 September 2013 10: 10
      video footage in the topic

      combat capabilities of WZ-10 and Z-19 helicopters
    2. forester
      forester 9 September 2013 10: 36
      And overestimate too
    NOMADE 9 September 2013 10: 40
    Quote: forester
    And overestimate too

    so no one overestimates smile Now you are using a monitor and a computer (or laptop or smartphone, etc.), which is 80% made in China (or accessories) and nothing wink
    It’s just that China is now the main manufacturer in the field of electrics, as well as automobile companies there opened their plants with an almost complete production cycle. And this gives a lot in terms of acquiring technology and knowledge. In the military sphere, something similar happens.
  7. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 9 September 2013 11: 56
    That is what the lack of a design school and long experience of our own development means - and not tyreny and re-shift. Do I have one bundles and connectors sticking out, not covered by anything, not hidden under covers and false panels, that cause an unpleasant feeling? And also some kind of insane mesh on the air intakes. She will remember in the trash during operation. It looks like this is left of the Eurocopter ancestor. After all, the Z-19 is a deep modification of the Z-9 helicopter, that is, a licensed copy of the Eurocopter AS.365. Yours faithfully! hi
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 9 September 2013 23: 06
      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
      Do I have one of the bundles and connectors sticking out, not covered by anything, not hidden under the covers and false panels, that cause an unpleasant feeling?

      Feelings, feelings, and the Chinese headed for the development of their own school of helicopter engineering.
      So far, the performance is "lame", but they take the best from us and the West, and with a certain perseverance they can very soon make life difficult for many ...
  8. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 9 September 2013 12: 12
    at least you’re an athlete-sportsman - against 10 ordinary people you can’t resist everything. Although what a cool technique Russia has — one alligator against 20 such coffee grinders will not stand. The problem is that the Chinese can (if they want) to produce them in thousands — we all we still can’t make purchases in the right volumes. We don’t have to mock China - we have to respect them already - they've been turning the whole world into a quiet place for a long time and chuckling despite the fact that they have an army that has far from the latest developments (and I don’t care that the resource is small- they have long been able to afford disposable equipment for a long time (10 flights and re-melting - the cost of a new one is lower). It’s only that we can get puffed that our helicopters are the coolest, but we won’t start to fly.
    NOMADE 9 September 2013 14: 52
    to zadorin
    + a lot, I tried to convey it :-)
    but to see many do not understand this ((
    once, even 10-15 years ago, everyone laughed from Korean cars .. (not a very good example, but still ...), and in 2012, by the end of the year, they almost overtook the Toyota and Shevral on the basis of sales !!! so that the potential enemy should not be underestimated! worth studying carefully ...
  10. Rambiaka
    Rambiaka 9 September 2013 15: 14
    And what does our MI do in the second video at 20 seconds?
  11. Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 9 September 2013 16: 52
    "cunning" Chinese ... who was not anyone, will become everything ... but the Chinese successes in the field of armaments are still impressive ...
  12. Conepatus
    Conepatus 9 September 2013 17: 36
    Actually, this is the Kamovtsy Chinese helpers.
  13. grck170
    grck170 9 September 2013 17: 36
    Yes ...
    Obviously, it flies, and NURSami - falls into the Earth.

    I was pleased with photo number 7: apparently - this is the tail wheel stand.
    Such a hydraulic drive can be easily cut off even against tall grass ... Perhaps even together with a hydraulic cylinder. It remains to be hoped that this hydraulic circuit is closed and works for itself. And then the Chinese RITA will say: "Pressure drop in the hydraulic system!"

    Yes, and in photo No. 6 this is what: a cutter for anti-helicopter mines or what?

    Although, I can not disagree with zadorin1974 - a dozen or two of these "lethal" can arrange a decent nix and cause a fair headache ...
    Moreover, when there is nothing to cover ...
  14. fedorovith
    fedorovith 9 September 2013 18: 11
    Kamov Design Bureau took part in this. Look at Ka60 (Killer Whale)
    1. Conepatus
      Conepatus 9 September 2013 18: 50
      At the heart of the Chinese helicopter, lies the Kamov development of 941 projects.
      Not "Killer Whale".
  15. sergey158-29
    sergey158-29 9 September 2013 21: 55
  16. aleks.baa2012
    aleks.baa2012 9 September 2013 22: 43
    Bravo Chinese well done learned to think in their own way bully , taken from three different helicopters and assembled your Chinese wassat leaders yeah
  17. Aleksandr67
    Aleksandr67 10 September 2013 04: 16
    Interestingly, does he have at least some kind of armor protection? Judging by the glazing of the cab no No.
    1. s_eight
      s_eight 10 September 2013 17: 40
      Interesting too. Do designers really believe that the likelihood of small arms bullets getting into the plexiglass (polycarbonate) is zero.
      Here on the KA-50: powerful armor in a circle and plexiglass right window. Are bullets flying from the ground only in front?
      Although there may be an example of a compromise solution - since the weight of the glass. Armor will make a change in centering and the probability of shelling from below, from the side is small, then we took such a step ..
      Although I recall an old American film (probably this one is “Intruder Flight”) about pilots in Vietnam. A plane flies over the forest, the pilots are talking about something. At this moment, the insidious shoots on the plane wink North Vietnamese sniper. A bullet pierces the plexiglass and the pilot's head, respectively. It does not pretend to be true, but the essence is the same.
      1. Kir
        Kir 10 September 2013 18: 04
        Well, let's put it like Kamov's (it's definitely not polycarbonate, if it's not too lazy to dig into the net, you can find it) here, rather, the same thing is so ... the same does not bother the SVM armor, Terlon (steam-aramid fiber), I'm not talking about elementorganics and so on, the question is more likely in another price and quality. And on the glazing, the color overflows, strange for plexiglass, may well be a film, by the way, using this technology, "booking" was done.
        But the "face" reminded the deceased project of modification of the Ka-50 for the needs of Turkey called Erdogan.
        1. s_eight
          s_eight 11 September 2013 17: 04
          Okay, we will give other examples - on MI-28, bulletproof glass is used in glazing (laminated, but special armor glass). And here is polymer plastic (albeit reinforced, durable, covered with armor films, but plastic). The question is why the designers used special plastic. Or maybe they don’t know at MILA that there are higher technologies?
          1. Kir
            Kir 13 September 2013 14: 21
            It is interesting that you have a blunder polymer plastic, if not, then the conversation does not continue at all about materials, but about Mi, and in what weight and military niche he and the Chinese are not the last best Russian bulletproof glass, maybe they didn’t agree on the price.
            1. s_eight
              s_eight 13 September 2013 17: 30
              What is that? Can’t you just answer - the modern transparent polymer-based protection allows you to protect the crew worse than bulletproof glass. No, let's get hungry in verbal battles.
              If you like it - keep being the "most discerning" ..

              About "polymer plastic" :) You rightly noticed - you can consider it a blunder.

              There is a video on the network where they bombard the Mi-28:


              And so, I have doubts that "the armor of SVM, Terlon (steam-aramid fiber), I'm not even talking about elementorganics and so on" will withstand such a thing.
              Oh yes, the class and weight are different. Well, no one forced Chinese sworn friends to call their product a "strike" helicopter (that is, on the tip of the strike).
              And in response they can shoot a little. And what do designers offer for this? The speed of HughCobra or the power of the Mi-24?
              1. Kir
                Kir 13 September 2013 18: 44
                You like to mix, read why they didn't use "ceramics" on Ka, each has its own purpose, with regards to fragmentation armor based on Par-Aramids, so forgive me, but what is there in the light weight segment based on metal comparable in price + quality? And with regards to the term shock, it is already addressing them the same way as on the issue of armor protection, it means that this situation suits you, so you do not need to operate. There is a separate song about elementorganics, but it is not a fact that while we have not talked with you, somewhere we have already tested new and maybe new materials. By the way, the nature of the film is not known either. it would be much easier to talk about the degree of protection if there were more complete data.
  18. s_eight
    s_eight 15 September 2013 01: 03
    They clearly explained. Thank.