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Photo of the Ukrainian "Watch" from the exhibition MSPO 2013

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Quite high-quality photo reports from the MSPO 2013 exhibition held in Poland appeared in the network.
Among the curious samples and a modified "Dozor" which in Poland was called "Otsilla" (tiger cat). Along with additional wrestling, the interior of the car was ennobled by the use of modern seats for the landing, reducing the impact of the explosion. In addition, initially the bottom has a cylindrical shape to provide protection from mines.


Photo of the Ukrainian "Watch" from the exhibition MSPO 2013












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  1. Su-9
    Su-9 7 September 2013 08: 31 New
    10
    Yes. It already looks more decent than the first craft of the same name with seats from a cheap bus. But of course they chose a place for a fire extinguisher - mother, do not worry.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 7 September 2013 10: 16 New
      0
      Quote: Su-9
      it already looks more decent than the first craft of the same name with seats from a cheap bus.

      Anyway, the flaws can be seen. Mom doesn’t worry. Everything is angular, they bent from an aluminum in a torpedo along the way, they wanted to integrate one device, they inserted what was there, the protrusions in the suspension are not suitable at all.
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 7 September 2013 16: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: APASUS
        Quote: Su-9
        it already looks more decent than the first craft of the same name with seats from a cheap bus.

        Anyway, the flaws can be seen. Mom doesn’t worry. Everything is angular, they bent from an aluminum in a torpedo along the way, they wanted to integrate one device, they inserted what was there, the protrusions in the suspension are not suitable at all.


        What did you want from the BTR40? You can paint it in camouflage and glue it with plastic, but it will remain itself even in this form.
        1. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 7 September 2013 18: 15 New
          +2
          If we consider this a reincarnation of the BTR-40, then clearly, it is much better than an armored van, called WODNIK.
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 8 September 2013 12: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: Geisenberg
          What did you want from the BTR40?

          Let's bring unfinished cars to exhibitions and push the idea of ​​super capabilities. Here in Colombia, too, are creative on this topic.
  2. Strashila
    Strashila 7 September 2013 09: 56 New
    +6
    BTR-40 is more alive than all living.
    1. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 7 September 2013 19: 29 New
      -1
      http://warfiles.ru/show-38180-oboronnaya-promyshlennost-gruzii-vela-razrabotku-u
      ltrasovremennogo-broneavtomobilya.html
      especially in the context of the ingenious guess, the "militarily leading" country that got trending in 2008.
  3. shurup
    shurup 7 September 2013 10: 49 New
    +1
    Good "Zaporozhets", but where are the performance characteristics? The bottom is not v-shaped, the wheel arches are developed, the crew is not centered.
    In short, a water cannon or a tear grenade launcher on the roof and on Khreshchatyk.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 7 September 2013 10: 58 New
      +5
      Quote: shurup
      The bottom is not v-shaped, wheel niches are developed, the crew is not centered

      so this is not MRAP. most likely created as a "classmate" of the Russian "Tiger". a kind of relatively simple and cheap transporter. no more
      1. fennekRUS
        fennekRUS 8 September 2013 14: 56 New
        +1
        rather an analogue of the KamAZ "Shot"
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        2. Akim
          Akim 8 September 2013 15: 17 New
          0
          Quote: fennekRUS
          analogue of KamAZ "Shot"

          Here is a closer comparison. Ukrainian classmates "Tiger" and "Wolf" are armored vehicles "Kozak" and "Vepr-K".
          1. Akim
            Akim 8 September 2013 15: 50 New
            0
            At SBU on tests. These can afford.
    2. cooper
      cooper 7 September 2013 11: 00 New
      +8
      THE BOTTOM IS CYLINDRICAL, THE EFFECT IS THE SAME.
  4. Algor73
    Algor73 7 September 2013 10: 59 New
    +9
    And in my opinion, even very much and nothing. Normal car. Looks not bad, not worse than Russian "Tigers" and "Wolves". It's a pity there are no performance characteristics to compare.
    1. avg
      avg 7 September 2013 12: 37 New
      +2
      You need to compare in the field, and even better in practice, and the performance characteristics can be written as cool as Iveco
      1. Akim
        Akim 7 September 2013 12: 44 New
        +8
        As small children: Which is better Jaguar or Porsche.
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 7 September 2013 16: 46 New
          +7
          Quote: Akim
          As small children: Which is better Jaguar or Porsche.


          Prior Priprst ...
    2. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 7 September 2013 14: 31 New
      +3
      Yes, and the suspension like the Tiger with elements of the BTR-80
    3. Russkiy_Prapor
      Russkiy_Prapor 7 September 2013 20: 45 New
      +2
      The performance characteristics of Dozor-B
      Combat weight, kg 6300
      Crew (landing), people 11 (3 + 8)
      Width, mm 2400
      Height, mm 2280
      Length, mm 5400
      Gross weight, kg 7,100
      Wheel formula 4x4
      Maximum speed, km / h 90-105 (depending on the power plant)
      Diesel engine, turbocharged and intercooled
      Transmission Mechanical Mechanical Mechanical Automatic
      Top speed 105 km / h
      Power reserve, km 700
      Armament - NSVT-12,7 machine gun remote control
      Ammunition, cartridges 450
      Collective protection system filtration unit
      Satellite navigation system CH-3003 Basalt
      Cooling capacity of air conditioning system, kW 4,4
      Maximum vision range of an infrared night vision device, m 180
      Communication range of VHF radio station, km 20
      Winch force WARN XD 9000i, H 41 000

      The armored corps of the Dozor-B armored car protects the crew, landing and internal equipment from small arms, anti-personnel mines and the effects of weapons of mass destruction. Deformation staining provides reduced visibility and reduced detection range. The body is made of armored steel. The armored car glazing provides protection similar to the main armor protection. The bottom of the armored car is made of armored steel, has a cylindrical shape to provide protection against mines.
      In terms of its tactical and technical characteristics, this car is analogous to the American "Hammer" and practically "double" of the Turkish armored car "Cobra". It is well suited for police and peacekeeping operations as a vehicle and carrier of various types of weapons.

  5. chernomor62
    chernomor62 7 September 2013 11: 34 New
    +2
    specifications here http://www.morozov.com.ua/eng/body/dozorb.php

    normal, like, a car, and the seats were redone.
  6. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 7 September 2013 11: 34 New
    +5
    For both ours and the prototype - a very decent quality of interior decoration. I even compared it with "Beaver", which I like, then "Oncilla" will be even better. By the way, by camouflage we can determine who the seller is targeting. It looks great like Iraq. Especially considering the fact that among the riotous grasses of this class of vehicles supplied to Iraq, the Poles have already checked out with Dzik-3 and Honker-2000. Yours faithfully! hi
  7. LINX
    LINX 7 September 2013 12: 33 New
    +2
    The Poles bought a license for "Dozor" for themselves, but this one, as I understand it, was attracted to represent "absurdity"
  8. Siberian
    Siberian 7 September 2013 13: 21 New
    +1
    It is a pity there are no specific performance characteristics. And so an interesting model.
  9. b-612
    b-612 7 September 2013 13: 54 New
    +3
    I like it, at least it looks very cool!
  10. Akim
    Akim 7 September 2013 16: 09 New
    +4
    "Tiger" and "Dozor-B" are slightly different types of machines. "Dozor-B" is closer to the Turkish "Cobra" - ie. it is a pure light armored personnel carrier. And "Tiger" is an armored multi-purpose vehicle. At that show, his classmate was KMW AMPV.
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 7 September 2013 17: 49 New
    +2
    At MSPO 2013, I liked the rescue drindoller more!
  12. nikkon09
    nikkon09 7 September 2013 18: 00 New
    +2
    Well thought out ... put pictures and not strain comments, they say enough for you and this ...
  13. Uhe
    Uhe 7 September 2013 18: 29 New
    0
    Aren't they going to join NATO? When they enter, no one will need all these developments in FIG. It is better to let their beauties grow and fat with buryak, so that there is someone and what to meet with civilizing troops;)

    The joke is sad, of course. Ukraine will leave for the West, and goodbye forever the dream of a single Slavic state ...
    1. Conepatus
      Conepatus 7 September 2013 20: 35 New
      +4
      Remind about Iveco?
    2. cooper
      cooper 8 September 2013 09: 52 New
      0
      The Poles are the same Slavs.
    3. poquello
      poquello 8 September 2013 16: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Uhe

      The joke is sad, of course. Ukraine will leave for the West, and goodbye forever the dream of a single Slavic state ...

      So, as it were, goodbye Ukraine did not work, I came across material here
      "Stage 4

      Consolidation of the colonial status of Ukraine. Complete elimination of the industrial potential of Ukraine. Closure of enterprises capable of competing with European producers. Liquidation of science-intensive industries and scientific potential of Ukraine under the pretext of transition to European standards in education. Destruction of fertile land by growing rapeseed and other crops that drain the land. Demoralization of the population. Destruction of the institution of the family, introduction of juvenile justice, promotion of gender equality under the guise of protecting human rights. "

      http://www.imperiya.by/authorsanalytics19-17561.html
      1. Sirozha
        Sirozha 9 September 2013 11: 56 New
        +1
        All this is already happening unfortunately :(
        I constantly travel to the Kiev, Zhytomyr and Vinnitsa regions, cultures that are not characteristic of our region grow everywhere: rapeseed (generally dreadful), sunflower, corn - all oilseeds that draw all the juices from the ground.
        It’s a misfortune with education — those who get more courageous, according to those books, children study. There is such that one class learns from different books: some of the children one at a time, the second at another ...
        It's probably time to shoot ...
        Sorry, that off-topic article ... Boiled simply.
        And by car ... Attempts to develop a more modern and protected UAZ, which, unfortunately, the troops still will not see :(
  14. sergey158-29
    sergey158-29 7 September 2013 21: 53 New
    0
    I liked ... CREDIT! good
  15. Oleg Kharkov
    Oleg Kharkov 7 September 2013 22: 48 New
    -2
    Something a lot of things were given to the Poles (even if they were sold). The patrol is all right, but what is "Quintnik" doing there? In my opinion, this is closer to tactical weapons and you shouldn't just throw them around.
  16. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 7 September 2013 23: 44 New
    +3
    Watch ... Everyone out of the dusk! wink
  17. Pavel. 199615
    Pavel. 199615 8 September 2013 09: 39 New
    0
    yes clear car
  18. nikcris
    nikcris 8 September 2013 13: 28 New
    0
    Quote: Cooper
    THE BOTTOM IS CYLINDRICAL, THE EFFECT IS THE SAME.

    The effect is the same if you fight with the rebels and step on a makeshift landmine.
    If the WAR is real, then what kind of curvature is the bottom, if sappers are dudaki. Designers and manufacturers of PTMs are not fools - it’s only on the monument to Kostin written nonsense about inclined armor. Everything is surmountable. And the ice of the Arctic and space and armor.
    1. Akim
      Akim 8 September 2013 13: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: nikcris
      The effect is the same if you fight with the rebels and step on a makeshift landmine.

      So such armored cars, only for such a war and are designed.
  19. froglodit
    froglodit 8 September 2013 17: 48 New
    0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_TPzN1s9FQ#t=50 а почему про это молчат)),армата интересно какая будет
    1. Akim
      Akim 8 September 2013 18: 22 New
      0
      Quote: froglodit
      and why they are silent about it)),

      I propose to read carefully.
      http://topwar.ru/32864-perspektivnyy-polskiy-tank-pl-01.html
  20. Oleg Kharkov
    Oleg Kharkov 8 September 2013 19: 49 New
    0
    Dear Akim, can you share information about what is happening with our and Polish cooperation in the military-industrial complex? Is the transfer of licenses first to Dozory, then to Kvitnik — is this an attempt to enter NATO markets through Poland? Or something deeper? In general, how much economy is there, and how much politics?
  21. Akim
    Akim 8 September 2013 21: 30 New
    +2
    Quote: Oleg Kharkov
    Is the transfer of licenses first to Dozory, then to Kvitnik — is this an attempt to enter NATO markets through Poland?

    No, this is a normal market. Is Finland a NATO member? Or Israel? They also transferred licenses to Poland. There is a buyer - the country is ready to sell. Otherwise, a holy place is never empty. You also forgot to mention KAZ "Zaslon" and the transferred technologies of the old KOEP "Shtora", now "Obra". If we do not sell, Israel will come with a similar proposal.
  22. Oleg Kharkov
    Oleg Kharkov 8 September 2013 22: 30 New
    0
    Ukrainian KAZ and DZ are generally a sore subject. Let's hope that the market and common sense will prevail and the quality product will find its niche - thanks for the answer.
  23. ko88
    ko88 13 September 2013 13: 14 New
    +1
    Ukrainians are progressing, well done! On the world market for armored vehicles create real competition not only for us but also for such giants as Germany, France and the United States.
  24. aver
    aver 10 February 2014 15: 43 New
    0
    Everything will be checked by the "field", who goes on and who ... And the machine is cute, I think they will finalize it.