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Unexpected and ambiguous launch of target rockets

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Last Tuesday, an ambiguous but interesting from a military-technical and political point of view incident occurred in the Mediterranean Sea and adjacent areas. In the morning, in 10: 16 Moscow time, an unidentified country launched two ballistic targets in the direction of the eastern part of the sea. In view of the tense situation in the Middle East in general and in Syria in particular, someone’s similar actions were a real cause for concern. Shortly after the launch of information about the launches, politicians, experts, and simply interested publics began to build their versions regarding the “masters” of the launched missiles and their pursued goals. Naturally, the recent events around the civil war in Syria and the international reaction to this conflict quickly led the version about the beginning of the intervention. However, in the end everything was not so sad.


Unexpected and ambiguous launch of target rockets


To begin, we recall a rough chronology of the events of Tuesday. In the morning, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported that the radar station of the missile attack warning system, located near the city of Armavir, detected the launch of two ballistic targets. Discovered objects flew from the central part of the Mediterranean to the east. After some time, new messages began to arrive. So, RIA News in fact, denied the version about the attack of the Syrian objects: as it turned out, the staff of the Russian embassy in Syria learned about the rocket incident only from the journalists who contacted them. At about the same time, the Russian media, citing a source in Damascus, said that both missiles fell into the sea, at a considerable distance from the coast.

The flight of rockets lasting only a few minutes was the main topic of the Tuesday news. Already after the first reports about the launch, statements from various countries of the Mediterranean region, as well as states having their own interests, began to appear. One of the first to dismiss the start of the UK, USA and France. They reported that they had nothing to do with the two ballistic targets fixed by the Russian radar station. Similar messages came from Italy and Israel.

However, just a couple of hours after the first official announcement, Israel changed its position. As it turned out, in the waters of the Mediterranean Sea, tests were carried out on Anchor target rockets intended for use in missile defense tests. Simultaneously with the launch, several elements of the Hetz-2 missile defense system (also known as Homa and Arrow) and missile detection radar stations worked. In addition, the Israeli military said that the tests were conducted with US assistance. Soon, a Pentagon spokesman confirmed this statement and noted that the test launch of the missiles was planned in advance.

A characteristic feature of all the events and statements on Tuesday that followed the launch of the missiles themselves was the specific position of some countries. At first they claimed that they knew nothing about any “ballistic goals”, but then they admitted that they were directly related to these events. Such a position regarding the missile incident itself looks ambiguous and strange, and in the light of recent events around Syria and the expected international intervention, it can be the basis for unpleasant (for the USA and Israel) conclusions. Nevertheless, the test countries recognized their direct attitude to the start-up and, it seemed, the tense situation was resolved. Tests conducted and nothing more to worry about.

It is necessary to recognize that the moment for test launches of missiles was chosen extremely unfortunate. The entire world community is closely monitoring the situation around the civil war in Syria, which may change from day to day due to the entry into conflict of third countries. And it is precisely at this time, when the intervention and attack of the Syrian objects can begin at any moment, the Americans and Israelis, following their predetermined plans, carry out a test launch of target missiles. Therefore, it is not surprising that immediately after the first reports of two ballistic targets there appeared versions according to which some third country (most likely from the NATO bloc) thus either tries to put pressure on official Damascus, or prepares for the impending invasion and conducts an operation the detection of Syrian air defense objects, if it does not begin their attack.

Of great interest are the actions of the Russian military. The calculation of the Voronezh-DM radar station, located not far from Armavir, promptly detected both fired missiles, tracked their trajectory and reported this to the command. The leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defense, in turn, did not hide the fact of the discovery of some missiles over the Mediterranean Sea and issued a corresponding statement. The actions of the Russian military, both of the calculation of the Voronezh-DM radar station and of the Defense Ministry leaders, turned out to be the most literate and correct in this situation.

First of all, it is necessary to note the good work of calculating the radar station near Armavir, which discovered and tracked two ballistic targets. The fact of detecting missiles indicates a good personnel training and high characteristics of the radar itself. Secondly, the actions of the highest echelons of the military department could actually have an impact on any course of development of further events. Since, as a result, the launch of the missiles turned out to be a test and was not intended to destroy any objects in the Middle East, the actions of the Russian military showed their ability and ability to detect targets in the area of ​​responsibility of one or another radar station. In addition, the announcement of information about objects discovered has significantly influenced the international situation in the Mediterranean. If the version of the strike on Syria would have been true, then the information of the Russian Defense Ministry could be the first report of the beginning of the intervention. Such a message would not allow some foreign countries to hide the first stages of the attack on Syria. In the light of the events of recent days and weeks, this fact could play a big role in shaping the world situation.

Fortunately, the second version of the possible development of events remained a version. The "masters" of the target rockets were found, the incident can be considered as settled. However, a number of events related to the joint tests of Israel and the United States will be remembered for quite some time, including as examples of not quite correct and logical behavior of the countries. Against the background of tensions in the region, Israel and the United States did not postpone and did not cancel the tests, without warning anyone about them. As a result, the countries of the Mediterranean region, namely the Middle Eastern part of it, amid the already complex situation, had to be further nervous while waiting for official information about unidentified missiles. It is unlikely that such actions can contribute to resolving the situation in the region as a whole and in Syria in particular.

Under the guise of targets, is Israel working for medium-range missiles for the US?

American target missile "Hera" - a violation of dog-ra on the INF, but old!


Under the wing of the F-15 "Blue Sparrow" - it is less than the "Silver" ...


Returning to the launch of the "Silver Sparrow" "rocket targets" in the Mediterranean.

In general, it is clear that the target missile for testing missile defense systems, depicting RSD and is itself RSD (with some technical details). So it was with the Hera target missile, which Americans used to work on their missile defense system - it represents the 2 th and 3 th stages of the 3 Minibar ICBM, which inevitably caused our protests about the US offense of RHD , on to-rye replies were received. But “Minuteman” is old, and here we are talking about a very interesting typewriter:
- starts from the air carrier (in this case, F-15), i.e. is, de facto aeroballistic rocket
- according to the developer - Raphael, the starting mass of the Servorobya is 3,1, length is 8,4, guidance is GPS and duplicated INS, the range is not specified, but (my estimate) is approximately 2-3.000km

- The detachable warhead can not only fly to the target along a simple ballistic trajectory, but also a) maneuver; b) fly in a spiral; may be a) inert; b) with liquid inside (!); c) high explosive (not bad for a target!)

Those. Attach one more step to this thing - and you have a ready-made RSD! Or even tighter - you can start up from the airplanes - approaching closer - before the launch or even the launch of the rocket on the ascending trajectory. Ktozh knows what this plane carries there ... Israel, of course, did not sign the dogov of RIAC - formally anything can to do (even the ICBM), but his “junior partner” of the United States must be tightly controlled, especially now when he deliberately sows chaos around the world.

Taking into account that the program for the development of Israel’s missile defense systems (GK - Uzi Rubin) is generally funded by the United States, it can be assumed that either a side child of the program is the development of the latest RSD, or the missile defense program itself is a side child of American rearmament plans. Under this sauce and any congress, Israel will allocate money to Israel!

PS Yes, in today's "Sparrows" no one shot (well, or did not hit ...) - purely working off the RSD!

Family of the Israeli Sparrow missiles


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  1. svp67
    svp67 6 September 2013 09: 12 New
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    Well done. And our radars have very good capabilities ... And let the whole world envy.
    1. Rink
      Rink 6 September 2013 12: 24 New
      +2
      I don’t know where to place it, but somehow this news excited me.
      I'll throw a link here

      Exclusive Material: A senior source confirms the secret movement of US nuclear warheads to the US East Coast
      Translation: http://mixednews.ru/archives/41275
      Original text: http://www.storyleak.com/exclusive-high-level-source-confirms-secret-us-nuclear-
      warhead-transfer-east-coast /
      (if they don’t beat him soon)
      1. z-exit
        z-exit 6 September 2013 19: 06 New
        +1
        Don't worry, the shortest route for an ICBM is through the North Pole. Therefore, the information most likely surfaced as an ordinary "misinformation" from the State Department, an attempt at informational pressure, they say you do not supply S-300 and S-400 to any countries, better strengthen your defense in the Far East, an ordinary duck.
      2. Witold
        Witold 7 September 2013 15: 08 New
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        SORRY ... PAGE NOT FOUND
  2. Rus2012
    Rus2012 6 September 2013 09: 21 New
    22
    ... Another reason for Russia to withdraw from the RSD agreement.
    Firstly, the fact of testing.
    Secondly, the spread of rocket technology.
    This is so, by the way ...
    1. Professor
      Professor 6 September 2013 09: 29 New
      -32
      Quote: Rus2012
      Another reason for Russia to withdraw from the RSD agreement.
      Firstly, the fact of testing.
      Secondly, the spread of rocket technology.
      This is so, by the way ...

      Did Russia sign it with Israel?

      In general, everyone is preparing for war, each of his systems fulfills.
      1. The Indian Joe
        The Indian Joe 6 September 2013 09: 52 New
        24
        Did Russia sign it with Israel?
        - not.
        This means that Russia is not bound by restrictions on the RSD regarding Israel. And nothing prevents her from withdrawing from the same treaty with the United States (all the more so since it was de facto violated by the Americans) to organize the assembly of such missiles even in Iran, even in Syria.
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 6 September 2013 10: 35 New
          18
          organize the assembly of such missiles even in Iran, at least in Syria.
          I prefer assembly sites: Venezuela, Cuba and Koreans.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 6 September 2013 14: 52 New
          -18
          Now give a picture of what this output will give and what the country will cost financially.
          1. AleksUkr
            AleksUkr 6 September 2013 17: 27 New
            +6
            Any reference to finances for me personally, and probably most sober people, is rejected. If the owner of the house, referring to the lack of finances, without embedding a lock in the current democratic time, can only be left with bare walls. They’ll even take off the wallpaper. I’m already silent about the floor. I don’t put a minus to you. Others have already set them. But consider this a warning from them. Stupidity is just as harmful as ordinary disorder.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 6 September 2013 17: 39 New
              -9
              Quote: AleksUkr
              Any reference to finances for me personally, and probably most sober people, is rejected. If the owner of the house, referring to the lack of finances, without embedding a lock in the current democratic time, can only be left with bare walls.

              To be the owner of the house, you must have the means to buy and maintain a house. In addition, these funds must be properly spent. There are different houses. For example, the USSR did not have enough money to maintain a too large house reasonably - and the house collapsed.

              Are you torn away by finances? So, most likely, you are a spender, not thinking about tomorrow and that your children and children of your children will eat. You want to leave them a house without walls, and that you alone will be to blame for them - you spent money too lightly and recklessly.
              1. ultra
                ultra 6 September 2013 17: 46 New
                +5
                Quote: Pimply
                Are you torn away by finances?

                Isn’t it funny to save a cent for a penny if you don’t buy eternal life anyway? This life was given to you, my dear, for a while, try not to lose time (Omar Khayyam).
              2. stranik72
                stranik72 6 September 2013 19: 16 New
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                "For example, the USSR did not have enough funds to reasonably maintain a too large house, and the house collapsed."
                Just tell your tales in another place, we know why the USSR collapsed and economic problems are not the main ones, but we remember the role that your compatriots played, however, as in the year 17. As for Our children, don’t worry, now the main task is to get rid of your influence on our power and economy, and wish you good luck in your own country, and there we will deal with difficulties and everything will be fine with us.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 7 September 2013 13: 10 New
                  0
                  Quote: stranik72
                  Just tell your tales in another place, we know why the USSR collapsed and economic problems are not the main ones, but we remember the role that your compatriots played, however, as in the year 17.

                  Of course. The Jews are definitely to blame.
              3. Curculum
                Curculum 6 September 2013 20: 58 New
                +4
                Quote: Pimply
                To be the owner of the house, you must have the means to buy and maintain a house.

                Sorry, but this is the thinking of a loser financier, burnt out on a mortgage or some other kind of loan. A normal business executive will be able to build a house using available available materials and raw materials, with minimal involvement of any equivalents of goods.
                And it’s not important how much product equivalent you have, more importantly - why do you need it. Few people think about it, but in vain. But that's another story.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 7 September 2013 13: 11 New
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                  Quote: Kurkul
                  Sorry, but this is the thinking of a loser financier, burnt out on a mortgage or some other kind of loan. A normal business executive will be able to build a house using available available materials and raw materials, with minimal involvement of any equivalents of goods

                  Are right. Only in this case, why do you need a product? And what will it cost?
                  1. Curculum
                    Curculum 7 September 2013 15: 13 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Only in this case, why do you need a product?

                    Sorry again, but the goods are different; Could you elaborate or expand your question? Because I have not previously indicated a commodity need ...
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 8 September 2013 03: 22 New
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                      Quote: Kurkul
                      Sorry again, but the goods are different; Could you elaborate or expand your question? Because I have not previously indicated a commodity need ...

                      Do not make me laugh. You are just trying to unbalance a comparison. Do you think I will go into this? There can be no complete analogy here. And you understand that perfectly. Just as you understand, I'm right.
                      1. Curculum
                        Curculum 8 September 2013 19: 23 New
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                        Quote: Pimply
                        Do not make me laugh. Are you just trying unvile comparison. Do you think I will go into this? There can be no complete analogy here. And you understand that perfectly. Just as you understand, I'm right.

                        If you read the selection and think, it will be funnier. But if your "rightness" lies in the possibility of building a house only with the help of the equivalent of the goods, then this looks truthfully only for the so-called. "office hamsters" for whom the bank is the manufacturer, and the possession of the equivalent of the product is the ultimate goal of life. Therefore, most of them are in a state of "predominant dependence", and it does not matter which one - financial, territorial, physical, moral, etc. And just this is no longer an analogy, but the prose of modern life.
              4. CTEPX
                CTEPX 7 September 2013 04: 47 New
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                Quote: Pimply
                To be the owner of the house, you must have the means to buy and maintain a house. In addition, these funds must be properly spent.

                We have just enough funds. But Israel and the United States do not have them)). Pi ... Thief ... Live on debt, in short)). What does not bother them, incidentally, is to have the highest expenditures on the military component.
                Spenders who did not think about tomorrow and what their children would eat?
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 7 September 2013 13: 10 New
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                  Quote: ctepx
                  We have just enough funds.

                  Bravo. Sure? Why do you think then various programs are being cut now, including the military budget? Putin's statement you see missed.

                  “Russia's budget for the coming years will inevitably be cut: what the officials have been talking about for several months was confirmed in September by President Vladimir Putin, who had previously remained silent on this issue. The stable growth of the economy due to high oil prices gradually exhausted itself, and new "Points of growth" did not appear, because of which the federal budget suffers. It is not yet known exactly what the officials will cut, although the Ministry of Finance has already put some ideas up for public discussion. "
                  1. CTEPX
                    CTEPX 8 September 2013 19: 50 New
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                    Quote: Pimply
                    Why do you think then cutting programs are different now

                    Well, let's put it this way)). Our budget, for several reasons)), more than half, works against Russia)).
                    Therefore, its reduction works, first of all, against Israel, the USA and Europe, which, by the way, also cut their budgets)).
                    But we are cutting tribute fees, and they are cutting social programs))
          2. stranik72
            stranik72 6 September 2013 19: 07 New
            +2
            Nothing, the output is FREE. SD missiles, not such a big problem in the presence of MD missiles, and even old designs have not lost their relevance, they will resume production, but there will be financial costs, but it’s worth it, especially Israel is not the state with which you can easily feel like a bandit he is a bandit.
        3. Professor
          Professor 6 September 2013 17: 05 New
          -7
          Quote: Injun Joe
          And nothing prevents her from withdrawing from the same treaty with the United States

          I remember the arms race drove one superpower into the coffin. Probably it.

          Quote: Injun Joe
          (especially since it is de facto violated by the Americans

          Your fantasies. Does Russia also violate this treaty when North Korea or Iran is testing similar missiles?
          1. Avenger711
            Avenger711 6 September 2013 18: 50 New
            +2
            1) The arms race did not drive anyone anywhere, because the USSR did not spend a lot on missiles.
            2) North. Korea is a sovereign state and has the right to experience if the relevant international treaties are not concluded, and something tells me that Korea has promised nothing to anyone.
            1. Professor
              Professor 6 September 2013 20: 17 New
              +3
              Quote: Avenger711
              1) The arms race did not drive anyone anywhere, because the USSR did not spend a lot on missiles.

              I drove into the coffin. In addition to missiles, the USSR stamped weapons unnecessarily.

              Quote: Avenger711
              North Korea is a sovereign state and has the right to experience if the relevant international treaties are not concluded, and something tells me that Korea has promised nothing to anyone.

              Bravo. Israel is also a sovereign state and has the right to test without warning anyone since it does not have such obligations.
              1. The Indian Joe
                The Indian Joe 7 September 2013 14: 43 New
                +2
                Israel is also a sovereign state and has the right to test without warning anyone since it has no such obligations
                - Of course, of course it does.
                Consequently, since he has this kind of weapon, and has no obligation to limit its use, moreover, he was repeatedly noticed in violation of the ceasefire agreement, then Russia should also think about withdrawing from the treaty limiting its possibilities, because the neighbors are all together and so stronger, and the retaliatory strike with medium-range missiles will turn out more powerful.
                Yes, and it would be worth giving drawings of such weapons to Iran, and, as you said, to Syria? She, however, can be given a ready-made weapon itself - so that all sorts of nonsense tips (I do not say that this is Israel, but I do not deny that I mean it wink ) ten times thought before sending to bomb objects on its territory. And so, if the time comes when Syria will have nothing to lose, she used such weapons.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 7 September 2013 15: 10 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Injun Joe
                  Consequently, since he has this kind of weapon, and has no obligation to limit its use, moreover, he was repeatedly noticed in violation of the ceasefire agreement, then Russia should also think about withdrawing from the treaty limiting its possibilities, because the neighbors are all together and so stronger, and the retaliatory strike with medium-range missiles will turn out more powerful.

                  Everything mixed up in your head. What place does Russia have with the ceasefire agreement between Israel and Syria from 1974? By the way, only Syria violated the agreement, as evidenced by UN observers.

                  Quote: Injun Joe
                  Yes, and it would be worth giving drawings of such weapons to Iran, and, as you said, to Syria? She, however, can be given a ready-made weapon itself - so that all sorts of foul-faced tips (I do not say that it is Israel, but I do not deny that I mean it) were thought ten times before sending objects to bomb on its territory.

                  Pipes, signed agreements do not allow.

                  Quote: Injun Joe
                  And so, if the time comes when Syria will have nothing to lose, she used such weapons.

                  Horror stories again? Syria still has missiles covering the entire territory of Israel, and there is also a WMD. That is why in Israel almost every house has a bomb shelter, and in houses built after 2008, it also has an air-sensing system. I am silent about gas masks. I just can’t understand one thing, why the neighbors of such an aggressive state of Israel do not build bomb shelters for the population and distribute gas masks? request
                2. novobranets
                  novobranets 8 September 2013 10: 25 New
                  0
                  Yes, and it would be worth giving drawings of such weapons to Iran, and, as you said, to Syria?
                  Correctly said. + good
      2. Far East
        Far East 6 September 2013 15: 13 New
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        Quote: Professor
        Did Russia sign it with Israel?

        with henpecked! and no negotiations needed! this is my CONCLUSION! you are just like a gasket! dirty you change! Good luck to God! you are a professor in what generation is a Jew? when they ran away who sheltered you! hi
        1. Professor
          Professor 6 September 2013 17: 06 New
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          Quote: Far East
          you are a professor in what generation is a Jew? when they ran away who sheltered you!

          I don't serve on Saturdays. Today is not a Saturday, but a holiday, so I will not give it. Go, go.
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 6 September 2013 17: 14 New
            +7
            There is a suspicion that you are not serving by any day.
            1. Professor
              Professor 6 September 2013 20: 39 New
              +3
              Quote: tilovaykrisa
              There is a suspicion that you are not serving by any day.

              The first day of every month ...
              1. tilovaykrisa
                tilovaykrisa 6 September 2013 21: 55 New
                +2
                Completeness you "PROFESOR", you should not comment on my comment, I confess I am even surprised by your modest attention, you should not destroy the myth of the national Jewish tradition, you do not face the abuse. Oooh, how could I forget)) right now, "Pruf" will follow to the studio)))) You shouldn't waste ink on this, believe me, a gas mask with an antidote is much more useful for you than Klava at the moment.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 6 September 2013 22: 35 New
                  0
                  Do you have something to say on the topic?
                2. old man54
                  old man54 6 September 2013 22: 58 New
                  +1
                  Quote: tilovaykrisa
                  Completeness to you "PROFESOR",

                  good laughing well, "+" of course! bully
              2. Current 72
                Current 72 7 September 2013 01: 19 New
                +2
                Professor ! I remember that you were higher in rank, and this hour I’m watching foreman, you’re kind of a smart man. How did you get to this point that you were so demoted ???
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 7 September 2013 13: 15 New
                  0
                  Quote: Current 72
                  Professor ! I remember that you were higher in rank, and this hour I’m watching foreman, you’re kind of a smart man. How did you get to this point that you were so demoted ???

                  In order to earn a marshal on a site in a week, it’s enough to say cheers-patriotic nonsense
          2. Far East
            Far East 6 September 2013 17: 23 New
            +5
            Quote: Professor
            I don't serve on Saturdays. Today is not a Saturday, but a holiday, so I will not give it.

            me from your handouts! I grew up on this earth! and not when not attached! and die on it! and you professor! Jew! I feel sorry for you! what expert are you? you are so-so! you here at a glance are not some of our marshals! so I don’t give a damn about them! wherever you are, know the FAR EASTERN! coming after you! hi
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 6 September 2013 17: 40 New
              -5
              Quote: Far East
              me from your handouts! I grew up on this earth! and not when not attached! and die on it! and you professor! Jew! I feel sorry for you! what expert are you? you are so-so! you here at a glance are not some of our marshals! so I don’t give a damn about them! wherever you are, know the FAR EASTERN! coming after you!

              You betray her by shouting jingoistic patriotic slogans and trying to insult a smart person instead of turning on your head.
              1. Far East
                Far East 7 September 2013 06: 32 New
                +1
                Quote: Pimply
                You betray her by shouting jingoistic patriotic slogans and trying to insult a smart person instead of turning on your head.

                you are smart? or that Jew! I have taken all of you smart! I AM RUSSIAN!
                Quote: Pimply
                Once!!!!
                In the cold, winter time !!!!!
                I left the forest !!!!!!
                There was a terrible frost !!!!!!!!!!!
                I could not resist, so many emotions in a person, it is clear that already bursting. If he follows the Professor, then he can get over me, it's dangerous !!

                and this you will be after the war, closing in the bunker to tell your children! I AM FREE! from some!
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 7 September 2013 13: 17 New
                  0
                  Quote: Far East
                  you are smart? or that Jew! I have taken all of you smart! I AM RUSSIAN!

                  Nationality alone does not make a person smarter. You are an indicator. I'm yes, smart. Do you have a problem with this?
                  1. Dober
                    Dober 7 September 2013 13: 47 New
                    0
                    Leave, please from the person! It can be seen that he is inexperienced in such matters as the terminometer with the Jews.
                    Let him stand aside, look ...
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 8 September 2013 03: 24 New
                      0
                      This is not inexperience or articulation. This is stupidity in man. It rarely passes with age.
                      You have banal xenophobia and internal fears. Do not worry so.
            2. Rumata
              Rumata 6 September 2013 21: 41 New
              +1
              Quote: Far East
              me from your handouts! I grew up on this earth! and not when not attached! and die on it! and you professor! Jew! I feel sorry for you! what expert are you? you are so-so! you here at a glance are not some of our marshals! so I don’t give a damn about them! wherever you are, know the FAR EASTERN! coming after you!

              Once!!!!
              In the cold, winter time !!!!!
              I left the forest !!!!!!
              There was a terrible frost !!!!!!!!!!!
              I could not resist, so many emotions in a person, it is clear that already bursting. If he follows the Professor, then he can get over me, it's dangerous !!
              1. Far East
                Far East 7 September 2013 06: 59 New
                -3
                Quote: Rumata
                then it can overwhelm me, it is dangerous !!

                here and be afraid of RUSSIAN! he will come to you! and you will scream, you are not a Jew! YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE IT! and do it not once! in a word TRAITOR!
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              1. Pimply
                Pimply 8 September 2013 03: 26 New
                0
                Quote: Dober
                Now they will pile on, provoke rudeness, and then, shoving their elbows in the locked up lapserdaks, rush to knock administrators ...
                Be above it, pull the dogs tenderly ...

                I see, you don’t like Jews so much, you choke on your saliva. Continue, it pleases 8)
          3. novobranets
            novobranets 8 September 2013 10: 28 New
            0
            Quote: Professor
            Today is not a Saturday, but a holiday, so I will not give it.

            Who will take it from you? No.
      3. Far East
        Far East 6 September 2013 16: 36 New
        +5
        [quote = professor] In general, everyone is preparing for war, everyone is working out their own systems. [They set the "avatar" of a respected MAN! here is your ESSENCE of a Jew! hi who are you? I would understand when Western LEBRALISTS condemn us! Well, you grew up in the USSR. I DO NOT SPEAK ABOUT YOU FOR ANYTHING MORE! you are just a JEWISH! hi
      4. knn54
        knn54 7 September 2013 17: 35 New
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        - Professor: In general, everyone is preparing for war, each of them is working out his own systems.
        Moshe Yaalon, did you launch target missiles?
        But why are you asking? Are you anti-Semite?
  3. shoroh
    shoroh 6 September 2013 09: 28 New
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    It is not profitable for us to get involved in an arms race while the country's military-industrial complex is in such a limbo. It is reasonable to delay the start of the arms race until at least the twentieth year.
    1. a52333
      a52333 6 September 2013 11: 31 New
      +9
      And ask the "partners" to postpone the start of the race? Wait three years. and then start with a low start? fool
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 6 September 2013 14: 54 New
        -9
        Have you taken from somewhere an economy that is on par with their economy? Do you want another effort?
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 6 September 2013 18: 04 New
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          Quote: Pimply
          Did you take the economy from somewhere which is on par with their economy?

          The USSR collapsed from the traitors in the person of the hump labeled and Co. (this bastard for reuniting Germany alone could receive so much money .. a traitor with a stigma ...
          oh yes ... actually I almost forgot why I decided to "react" to your post.
          Eugene ... well, honestly, you began to say, let's say so with double posts. You write ... well, where did you get the economy comparable to their .......
          but then talk about their real debt ... in fact, this real "economy" Real BANKRUPT! Which is supported by the fact that the dollar is the world currency and bankrupt who is trying with all his might to prolong this state of the parasite due to the chaos in the world.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 7 September 2013 13: 18 New
            0
            Of course because of the traitors. And not because of the crisis of overproduction, exorbitant economic costs and the inability to plan expenses. Right Traitors are to blame.
        2. zvereok
          zvereok 7 September 2013 08: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          Have you taken from somewhere an economy that is on par with their economy? Do you want another effort?


          Are you talking about the default of Detroit?
          1. clidon
            clidon 7 September 2013 10: 00 New
            0
            I think this is about their GDP.
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 7 September 2013 13: 20 New
            +1
            Detroit is bankrupt, for starters, which means his debt has been restructured. What does debt restructuring mean. What do you think, how many Detroits in Russia who live off federal subsidies?
            Do not talk about what you have no idea. If you have heard a beautiful word, this does not mean that you understand it.
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 6 September 2013 13: 02 New
      +6
      Quote: shoroh
      It is reasonable to delay the start of the arms race until at least the twentieth year.

      it's like?
      and so more 20let (with 1991go) almost did little ...
      Suggest - a bayonet to the ground, paws up, eyes down?
    3. Andrew-001
      Andrew-001 6 September 2013 13: 43 New
      +6
      And they also say that in Greece (you have a Greek flag) "everything is there" lol
      But Russia does not need an arms race - it needs a certain amount of weapons sufficient for guaranteed security. And it is necessary the faster, the better.
      1. Very old
        Very old 6 September 2013 22: 06 New
        0
        "necessary and sufficient" is the golden rule of mathematics in proving a theorem.
  4. Sirs
    Sirs 6 September 2013 09: 29 New
    +9
    You also need to launch a ballistic missile in the Mediterranean and bring down there, well then tell this test, we did not tell you because this is a secret teaching if they ask. Well, to warn them that the next time will be the launch of a strategic missile from a submarine in the port of Cuba.
    1. Ev58
      Ev58 6 September 2013 09: 47 New
      -2
      Such "games", Sirs, are not serious.
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 6 September 2013 10: 11 New
        10
        Just the same, such games are very serious.
        And, unfortunately, in today's situation around Syria, they are simply necessary.
      2. ale-x
        ale-x 6 September 2013 11: 55 New
        +7
        But refresh the memory and sober, it's high time.
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 6 September 2013 09: 49 New
      16
      And shoot down a "target" somewhere in the eastern Mediterranean, closer to the border of the Land of Israel. By the forces of the Mediterranean squadron. Under the pretext of checking its combat readiness. soldier
      1. IIIIvanov
        IIIIvanov 6 September 2013 10: 33 New
        +5
        Well, yes, ours are also training, well, it happens that they have confused our target rocket with yours, well, you think, the overall assessment of the exercises is excellent!
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 6 September 2013 10: 44 New
          +9
          And even say thanks for the target. Call it all an expansion of military-technical cooperation. And offer to launch your target. And so that this would not be dangerous for the development of tension and, God forbid, not be confused with the attack of Syria on the promised land, launch from Saudi Arabia or Qatar and closer to their territory and missile defense, at the maximum distance from the Syrian border.
          Oh, what is there! Don't be sorry for your friends! To make gifts, so with all the heart - to launch a target of the "Voivode" class. After the launch (while it is flying), report that the warhead is a simulator and the estimated landing site is their range for such purposes. Let them rejoice.
          :)
          1. not good
            not good 6 September 2013 22: 53 New
            0
            Their joy will be tricked with full pants laughing
        2. ale-x
          ale-x 6 September 2013 11: 56 New
          +1
          "Excellent" can only be earned in real battles - in exercises it is usually "Good"
    3. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 6 September 2013 10: 09 New
      +5
      we didn’t tell you because it’s a secret teaching if they ask
      let me change your phrase a little to "if they notice the launch", And to talk about the launch initially in the past tense, they say, they spent all the chiki-bunches, several beautiful videos. At the same time, let's see how much they can track missile launches.
    4. alone
      alone 6 September 2013 11: 54 New
      0
      wassat and if there is a miss? Can you imagine what srach will begin after that))) everyone can’t do it)))
  5. 787nkx
    787nkx 6 September 2013 09: 38 New
    +5
    If each country in neutral waters will arrange the territory for its lawlessness, what the Mediterranean Sea will turn into, and the whole world as a result. Bad trends.
  6. govoruha-otrok
    govoruha-otrok 6 September 2013 09: 40 New
    +5
    pewter wooden glass, but not "Silver" :-)
  7. Alex66
    Alex66 6 September 2013 09: 42 New
    +6
    Israel is working out RSD for the United States, Belarusians could help us, in any case, this cannot be ignored.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 6 September 2013 10: 09 New
      11
      Belarusians could help us Better let North Korea help or Cuba laughing

      If the version of the strike on Syria would be true, then the information of the Russian Ministry of Defense could be the first message about the beginning of the intervention. Such a message would not allow some foreign countries to hide the first stages of the attack on Syria.
      Demonstration of the capabilities of a normal, technologically advanced country for provocation. And not when these democrat-obscurantists are at war with the "Papuans".
      In response, publicly order our naval group to intercept any such targets with the mandatory destruction of launchers within the reach of our systems and without prior notification to the parties and superiors and regardless of territorial borders. Motivation: to prevent the escalation of tension in the region, in order to ensure the safety of the fleet, Russian citizens in the region and to comply with the most favored nation work of the UN chemical weapons investigation
      wink
      Moreover, the current doctrine allows, if necessary, to turn a blind eye to the territorial sovereignty of other countries.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 6 September 2013 14: 56 New
      -7
      Israel is primarily working out a defense for itself, since Assad’s guys have clearly and unequivocally stated that they will hit Israel in the event of an attack on Syrian targets.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 September 2013 14: 58 New
        +5
        Quote: Pimply
        I, since the Assad guys clearly and unequivocally stated that they would hit Israel in the event of an attack on Syrian targets.

        Zhenya, what happened before? And what do the guys from Israel say?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 6 September 2013 15: 37 New
          -5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Zhenya, what happened before?

          There used to be no potential strike by the States. The exercises were conducted as always. Just in the light of the fact that the States and the coalition will strike soon, everything is on the nerves.
          Israel in particular. Although a serious missile defense system has appeared in recent years, everyone remembers how Iraq in 1991, when the Desert Storm was launched against it, actively began shelling Israel with Scuds - although Israel was not a member of the coalition against Iraq. Not Saudi Arabia, nor other countries - specifically Israel. So holding such exercises is logical in light of the situation. And the fact that the data was not transferred to Russia is also logical, because they would immediately go from there to the Syrians.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 6 September 2013 17: 09 New
            +4
            Quote: Pimply
            There used to be no potential strike by the States

            Funny laughing And actually, how does your comment correspond with the support of Israel for striking Syria A?
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 6 September 2013 17: 45 New
              -1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Funny. Actually, how do you comment on Israel’s support for striking Syria A?

              Can you give an example of an official statement by the Israeli Foreign Ministry? Has the support of official Jerusalem slipped somewhere - in the press, for example? Give me, pliz, any specific link.
          2. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 6 September 2013 17: 12 New
            +4
            in 1991, when a "Desert Storm" was launched against him, he actively began to shell Israel with "Scuds"
            This time there may be scads with sarin, and then no gas masks will help, by the way, what is there with the Palestinians' demand to give them gas masks, or you, like the "professor", do not submit on Fridays?
            1. Professor
              Professor 6 September 2013 17: 52 New
              -2
              Quote: tilovaykrisa
              , by the way, what is there with the demand of the Palestinians to give them gas masks, or you, like the "professor", do not submit on Fridays?

              So help your proteges, or besides electricity, water and money to the Palestinians, should Israel give gas masks? And I do not serve on Saturdays.
              1. tilovaykrisa
                tilovaykrisa 6 September 2013 17: 59 New
                0
                Yes, do not repeat, I already realized that you do not serve by any day.
            2. Pimply
              Pimply 6 September 2013 17: 52 New
              -2
              Quote: tilovaykrisa
              This time there may be scads with sarin, and then no gas masks will help, by the way, what is there with the Palestinians' demand to give them gas masks, or you, like the "professor", do not submit on Fridays?

              Respected. To start, wash your tongue with soap. You have it dirty. Never start a discussion with rudeness - you will be sent. This time.
              Two - the Palestinian Authority has an independent budget, formed from several sources: sponsorship money, tax collection in favor of the PA, carried out by Israel, loans from international organizations. Israel does not ask for gas masks from the Palestinian Authority, right, or from Russia? Both there and there are independent budgets. With what joy? The Oslo Accords already provide for the supply of electricity, water, fuel, and much more, despite the fact that under most articles the PA has large debts to Israel.

              Next - Do you know what is in the box with a gas mask? I know. For example, there are stick syringes with antidotes.
              1. tilovaykrisa
                tilovaykrisa 6 September 2013 17: 57 New
                0
                Where did you see rudeness? Obviously you suffer from excessive suspiciousness that you probably earned on this forum.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 7 September 2013 13: 24 New
                  0
                  Quote: tilovaykrisa
                  Where did you see rudeness? Obviously you suffer from excessive suspiciousness that you probably earned on this forum.

                  Should I poke a finger? Do not fool yourself. No, of course he may suit you, but something is doubtful to me that you do not understand where and how rude.
                  1. tilovaykrisa
                    tilovaykrisa 7 September 2013 22: 46 New
                    0
                    Well, poke your finger with nothing more than that, take off your ambition in the end, you were just asked a question, I admit that you asked a little incorrectly, but this is not a reason to be rude, as you see, I do not fall to your level of presentation of thoughts.
              2. Very old
                Very old 6 September 2013 22: 13 New
                +2
                You can wash your hands, you can wash your tongue. WASHED YOUR BRAINS WASHING - NO
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 7 September 2013 13: 22 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Very old
                  You can wash your hands, you can wash your tongue. WASHED YOUR BRAINS WASHING - NO

                  Dear, how do you imagine the "flushing" in Israel, where the majority of the press are left-minded pacifists? 8)
      2. builder
        builder 6 September 2013 18: 59 New
        0
        Surveys conducted over the weekend show which is more than 75% Israelis favor blow of American wax on Syria. The statement by US President Barack Obama that the potential attack was postponed for at least a week and a half, as the head of state will seek congressional approval, worried many Israelis.
        “Most Israelis feel disappointed that the leader of the free world, the American president, lacks determination, he looks spineless.
        http://www.inosmi.ru/world/20130904/212600873.html#ixzz2e7ngxsU1
      3. Hitrovan07
        Hitrovan07 6 September 2013 21: 17 New
        +1
        In fact, Israel allegedly, together with the United States, "worked out something" - and therefore claims to the United States (the Americans signed the treaty).
  8. Ivan79
    Ivan79 6 September 2013 10: 00 New
    +1
    Did they really think that no one would know about their failed provocation?
  9. Zubr
    Zubr 6 September 2013 10: 01 New
    +9
    Once again I’m convinced how on time we launched Voronezh-DM. Calculation really well done, truncated adversary. But in a real situation, if these missiles were directed towards Syria and not toys, then they would fabricate the next version of the strike by Syria, for example, against Qatar, and they themselves would launch a missile at Qatar. Damn something they played, without warning, completely insolent. Well, once again, they realized that with our missile defense radars, the jokes are bad.
    1. Curculum
      Curculum 6 September 2013 11: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: Zubr
      But in a real situation, if these missiles were directed towards Syria and not toy

      Interesting picture:
      1. Curculum
        Curculum 6 September 2013 21: 24 New
        +1
        And here is another picture:
        1. clidon
          clidon 6 September 2013 21: 36 New
          0
          Two warships, in fact. Only the Moskva cruiser can shoot down missiles "at a distance", the BOD can only "spit" if something reaches it.
    2. Volkhov
      Volkhov 6 September 2013 20: 48 New
      -3
      Quote: Zubr
      if these missiles were directed towards Syria and not toy

      Well, on the eve of launch in the Mediterranean Sea, a NATO-based radiation reconnaissance plane flew in — no toys, nuclear warheads.
      In order for Armavir to detect the launch, a target height of about 200 ... 300 km is needed (the earth is round) - that is, the ballistic missile went to a long range somewhere in the east of Syria ... it simply did not reach - Santa Claus flew in and shot down the missiles on the accelerating section. Does Santa Claus have a torpedo for the launch platform in his bag - it may well be - he's a magician, though the Mediterranean Sea is immortal and the principles of ecology advise to sink large targets in the Bay of Biscay - so that the current will carry the mud into the South Atlantic. It is unlikely that the submarine will be deprived of a gift - it has 14 more missiles on it - so you can trust the military registration and enlistment office "for a contract fleet" ... you can only believe the Great - showed the pike 21 - indeed 21 Security Council, drew a cat with a raised tail - missiles flew ... were short, but a whole squadron sailed to Santa Claus to the north for gifts - we are waiting for news.
      1. Mervik
        Mervik 6 September 2013 21: 46 New
        +1
        No, Armovir works to reflect from the stratosphere! he can look beyond the horizon
      2. Arabist
        Arabist 6 September 2013 22: 20 New
        +2
        Volkhov, have you seen other worlds again? Tell us which substances do you use?
        1. Volkhov
          Volkhov 7 September 2013 00: 00 New
          +1
          My world is not there, I’m looking at yours - it’s a bit left for him, it’s necessary to remember.
          I use products from the store, and what is added there - you know better, you are on duty today ...
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 September 2013 10: 09 New
    +2
    However, a check for lice.
    Do not crawl ...
    1. Mervik
      Mervik 6 September 2013 23: 46 New
      0
      The news about the F-31 Raptor shot down on August 22 was reported by the Los Angeles Times. The newspaper also reported that on August 30 Syrian air defense shot down 4 American Tomahawk missiles. They were shot down by the Russian anti-ballistic system "Shell-1 ″.

      http://wartelegraph.ru/siriya-sbila-amerikanskij-samolet-f-22-i-4-rakety-tomahaw
      k/
      1. The Indian Joe
        The Indian Joe 7 September 2013 14: 49 New
        0
        It's fake. There is no photo of the wreckage, no recognition of the loss by US official authorities, nothing at all.
      2. Witold
        Witold 7 September 2013 15: 35 New
        0
        Do not retell the Russian yellow site, only idiots will believe you.
        1. Mervik
          Mervik 8 September 2013 00: 29 New
          0
          Why do you think this cannot be reality? After all, it is not always possible to capture events.
          1. Mervik
            Mervik 8 September 2013 01: 11 New
            0
            And you, the representative of a smart, but harmful people, how can you allow the land to be bombarded which keeps memory and is an artifact of great events! the doctrines bearing the gospels have forgotten! (representative of the flag of Israel)
            1. Mervik
              Mervik 8 September 2013 02: 03 New
              0
              Quote: Mervik
              And you, the representative of a smart, but harmful people, how can you allow the land to be bombarded which keeps memory and is an artifact of great events! the doctrines bearing the gospels have forgotten! (representative of the flag of Israel)

              Yes, even allow - Who ?! Americans! To a people without a nation! The people who have exterminated almost completely the aborigines of the land on which they live! This means that he does not respect his history! And that means not having it! Don't be like them! You, the representative of the people of the Land of Israel, the representative of a nation that has the basic burden of enlightening "DO NOT KILL!" Hypocrites
  11. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 6 September 2013 10: 16 New
    +1
    Better to quietly develop, I personally will forgive the state if it violates the RSD treaty or stores chemical, biological and "excess" nuclear weapons =) Yes, the radars are not bad, it's a pity a small number of targets can accompany (correct if I'm wrong).
    1. Mjolnir
      Mjolnir 6 September 2013 10: 32 New
      +1
      They said that up to 500 goals at a time.
      1. 787nkx
        787nkx 6 September 2013 12: 57 New
        +3
        It is important to find whom to accompany there.
  12. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 September 2013 10: 26 New
    +3
    In theory, there is our intelligence on the database. ship, or he does not detect starts?
    It is interesting whether there is a direct channel for notifying the Syrian leadership of such things.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 6 September 2013 10: 56 New
      +3
      Relish is not that with reconnaissance ship to detect. It is important to demonstrate that we even see everything from near Voronezh. Here it should be officially added that, due to the lack of warning about the launch being launched and the goals were unclear, they were escorted by our ships in the region and that the interception was canceled solely because of the miscalculation of the trajectory and the place of the fall.
      And it doesn’t matter if it really was or not. State loudly and let them think what they want.
      1. master_rem
        master_rem 6 September 2013 13: 37 New
        +5
        Not from near Voronezh, but "Voronezh-DM" from near Armavir, which is in the Krasnodar Territory
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 6 September 2013 15: 06 New
          +3
          Thanks for the amendment. hi
          True, the essence of this does not change
          1. master_rem
            master_rem 6 September 2013 23: 10 New
            0
            Important: my family and I are in Dagomys, which is actually near Sochi, we drink the Abkhaz vinyl (very pleasant), fruits, etc. It was especially felt that the dream and the resort were finally protected! hi
  13. HAM
    HAM 6 September 2013 10: 26 New
    +6
    They caught the "peacekeepers" by the hand, but it should have been by the scruff. If the number with the shooting had gone unnoticed, there would have been a blow, as always, from around the corner - "this is not us, these are aliens", favorite "arguments" of the sowers of democracy.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 6 September 2013 10: 58 New
      +5
      They caught the "peacekeepers" by the hand, but it should be by the scruff of the neck.
      It’s better for such paired rounded things that some people interfere with dancing.
      laughing
  14. Farvil
    Farvil 6 September 2013 10: 36 New
    +6
    The most important provocateur in the Middle East is Israel. Jews have long conquered the United States, everywhere they hide behind star-striped.
    1. dominion
      dominion 6 September 2013 11: 54 New
      +7
      The USA is the new Khazar Khaganate, a new Grand Duke Svyatoslav is needed to destroy this hateful formation.
      1. old man54
        old man54 6 September 2013 23: 10 New
        -1
        Quote: dominion
        The USA is the new Khazar Khaganate, a new Grand Duke Svyatoslav is needed to destroy this hateful formation.

        coming soon, already growing BELIEVE! angry
  15. Zubr
    Zubr 6 September 2013 10: 41 New
    +5
    Quote: abrakadabre
    organize the assembly of such missiles even in Iran, at least in Syria.
    I prefer assembly sites: Venezuela, Cuba and Koreans.


    Pretty good places, I agree ..
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 6 September 2013 11: 06 New
      +6
      By the way, about the consent of the Arabs to finance the strike on Syria.
      What submarines do we have on board?
      An "emergency" surfacing of such a device is urgently required in the Red Sea not far from ... in the neutral zone.
      wink
      With the subsequent emergence of another such submarine to provide "assistance" to the first.
      1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        NOBODY EXCEPT US 6 September 2013 19: 14 New
        -4
        Kursk tried to emerge in their own waters. They didn’t give it there, and they won’t give it there again .. or do you think they aren’t there, although judging by your comments, you’re not able to think otherwise you wouldn’t write such nonsense ....... hi .... warrior horseradish ....
  16. Druid
    Druid 6 September 2013 11: 49 New
    +1
    Combined business with pleasure.
    1. Checked and revealed something in the air defense of Syria.
    2. They tested (and at the same time showed and proved its existence) a medium-range missile, for a state that still denies its nuclear weapons.
    All this is more than a loud warning to those who spoke about a strike on Israel in response to a strike on Syria.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 6 September 2013 13: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: Druid
      2. They tested (and at the same time showed and proved its existence) a medium-range missile, for a state that still denies its nuclear weapons.
      All this is more than a loud warning to those who spoke about a strike on Israel in response to a strike on Syria.


      In Israel, everyone is so brainwashed that almost everyone there seriously believes in the "Samson option", when, with the threat of the existence of the state, before dying themselves, they are convinced that they will take half of the world with them. They even have maps where Israeli missiles reach, including the territory of Russia. On the other hand, Iran has carriers capable of reaching the territory of Russia (including Moscow). And here and there a semi-clerical odious government on the one hand, the Likud Zionists Satanyahu, on the other, Iranian Ayatollahs. I remember back in 2008. While still in service, they practiced Iranian missile attacks on Moscow in exercises. (This was the first time and a novelty compared to the already established Tomahawks). The ideal way to contain such problematic countries as Israel, Iran, Pakistan is the MRBM. That's why the complaints the same Ivanov about the absence of medium-range missiles in Russia, while
      "neighbors are working on their production."

      It should be borne in mind that Israel's nuclear weapons are not deployed on carriers capable of reaching our territory (the three-stage Ierekhon-3, for example), if this is done and the RK is created capable of carrying a continuous DB in readiness to immediately inflict RNU (and it does not matter whether it is aimed at Russia or no), automatically targets on the territory of Israel will be entered into the on-board computers of our ICBMs (because we do not have MRBMs, again !!). In the USSR, our DA located on the territory of Ukraine and multipurpose nuclear submarines "worked" on the BV in Israel and the Amerov bases. It is no coincidence that after the collapse of the USSR and the coming to power in Russia and Ukraine of pro-American and pro-Israel regimes, it was the YES aircraft and multipurpose nuclear submarines that were destroyed and sequestered in the first place. The result for decades, Israel has become virtually inaccessible to our weapons.
      As for Iran, Pakistan and China, the same YES is not enough. Again, the question arises of the ballistic missile and tactical nuclear weapons.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 6 September 2013 15: 18 New
        -6
        Quote: Ascetic
        In Israel, everyone is so brainwashed that almost everyone there seriously believes in the "Samson option", when, with the threat of the existence of the state, before dying themselves, they are convinced that they will take half the world with them.

        Tell me, Stanislav, are you sick? What hot talk are you talking about? I lived in Israel for 15 years, crossed paths with two premieres - I interviewed several opposition leaders, but neither at the top, nor among ordinary people, the nonsense that you are now carrying, you will not meet. I understand everything: complexes, hidden xenophobia and more. But you really like that ... Vodichki or something.
  17. malikszh
    malikszh 6 September 2013 12: 05 New
    +1
    Radar well done showed that it works !!! It seems war will not be the United States after these messages and grouping ships of the Russian Navy will not start a war.
  18. Zubr
    Zubr 6 September 2013 12: 17 New
    +2
    Quote: Kurkul
    Quote: Zubr
    But in a real situation, if these missiles were directed towards Syria and not toy

    Interesting picture:


    An interesting sketch .... I just don’t understand, they were put to self-destruction or did Syria’s air defense work? It seems to me like this, with this launch, they decided to provoke the operation of air defense radars in order to calculate their location. Did they succeed or failed?
    1. scientist
      scientist 6 September 2013 13: 24 New
      +2
      Syrian air defense is not able to work on ballistic goals. Syria’s existing radar park will not even detect launch. Unless the S-300, if it is there anyway. But I strongly doubt that it was delivered complete with the KPS and BBO.
      1. Mervik
        Mervik 6 September 2013 23: 43 New
        0
        The news about the F-31 Raptor shot down on August 22 was reported by the Los Angeles Times. The newspaper also reported that on August 30 Syrian air defense shot down 4 American Tomahawk missiles. They were shot down by the Russian anti-ballistic system "Shell-1 ″. These are Russian anti-aircraft missiles that destroyed American missiles. Sources in the newspaper believe that the Pentagon fired four rockets to, as the Los Angeles Times writes, “to feel the Syrian pulse.”
  19. washi
    washi 6 September 2013 12: 25 New
    +2
    You need to run something too. Only with an ordinary warhead and warning in which part of the Mediterranean Sea a fall will occur.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 6 September 2013 15: 19 New
      -3
      Are you so hunting somewhere to war?
      1. ultra
        ultra 6 September 2013 15: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: Pimply
        Are you so hunting somewhere to war?

        Most of all, the desire to make war, judging by everything, is one Nobel "peacemaker" and a great friend of Israel! hi
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 6 September 2013 17: 54 New
          0
          Quote: ultra
          Most of all, the desire to make war, judging by everything, is one Nobel "peacemaker" and a great friend of Israel!

          Obama
          a) far from a friend of Israel. If you studied at least a bit of the topic, you would be aware that this is one of the most negative Presidents of the United States towards Israel
          b) Obama doesn’t feel like fighting. Because if he wanted, the United States would have entered the war two years ago, and then they would not have arranged a circus with bombing / not bombing
          1. ultra
            ultra 6 September 2013 22: 26 New
            +1
            Personally, as Obama, I am aware, but as an American president, he has no choice! Must be friends!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 7 September 2013 13: 25 New
              -1
              Quote: ultra
              Personally, as Obama, I am aware, but as an American president, he has no choice! Must be friends!

              Friendly and allied relations are two big differences.
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      2. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 6 September 2013 17: 47 New
        0
        You are drawn to ask a provocative question. Read the press better, watch the programs on the box. You will be healthier. And then even a friend did not quite understand what was at stake.
  20. Zubr
    Zubr 6 September 2013 12: 29 New
    +3
    Quote: abrakadabre
    They caught the "peacekeepers" by the hand, but it should be by the scruff of the neck.
    It’s better for such paired rounded things that some people interfere with dancing.
    laughing


    They already have enough fagots there, imagine two AUGs and they all yell with falsetto ?! laughing
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 6 September 2013 13: 10 New
      +3
      So falsetto, if not just to catch, but also to squeeze.
      And it’s necessary as in a joke:

      Young beautiful sits in the chair of a male dentist. Only he brings the drill to her mouth, how to grab it by ... their very ...
      Doctor - Why are you doing this?
      Girl in response - Doctor, we won’t hurt each other?
  21. ran nearby
    ran nearby 6 September 2013 12: 45 New
    +1
    Surely succeeded. Maybe not all, but ....
  22. scientist
    scientist 6 September 2013 13: 15 New
    +5
    Doesn't fit with logic. The only thing marked is a bad time. But why weren't these "targets" intercepted by the Israeli missile defense system? There was not even an attempt to launch interceptor missiles! A discrepancy, gentlemen, Jews !. Consequently, these were RSD tests, in parallel with the test of the Russian early warning missile system, whether it was detected or not. Spotted 100% probability! This means that a ballistic missile strike on Syria is now questionable, it will not work on a quiet one.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 6 September 2013 15: 20 New
      -1
      Quote: scientist
      Doesn't fit with logic. The only thing marked is a bad time. But why these "targets" were not intercepted by the Israeli missile defense system, after all, there was not even an attempt to launch interceptor missiles!

      Because the launch of a missile defense is taxpayer money. It was immediately checked not how the missiles work (they have passed all the tests for a long time), but the efficiency of the radar system.
      1. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 6 September 2013 17: 51 New
        +3
        Again finances. How much more will you chew on this topic. You are clearly some kind of petty accountant. And you always have a shortage that you cannot manage to repay ... My sympathy for you.
      2. scientist
        scientist 6 September 2013 18: 23 New
        +3
        Too expensive a check for the radar system, believe me as a specialist who has served in air defense for decades, this is not done.
        Radars, as well as ACS, are checked every day from a simulator + the presence of real aircraft targets for air defense or satellites, without this 100% guarantee, not one commander will not put it on B.D. But missiles, like their guidance complex, often fail. Therefore, in the air defense system there are many of them, because one missile provides a probability of hitting an aircraft of only 0,8, and a ballistic target even less. In addition, with a certain periodicity they are supposed to shoot at targets, otherwise no one will give a guarantee.
        1. Tourist Breakfast
          Tourist Breakfast 6 September 2013 18: 48 New
          0
          Too expensive a check for the radar system, believe me as a specialist who has served in air defense for decades, this is not done.


          The target missiles themselves were also tested in this case. This is a new modification "Silver Sparrow". "Raphael" sells them for export. Now yours have done a great ad for them.
          1. ultra
            ultra 6 September 2013 22: 29 New
            -1
            Quote: Tourist's Breakfast
            Now yours did a great advertisement for them.

            Rather anti-advertising! But what about the notorious "stealth"? laughing
            1. Tourist Breakfast
              Tourist Breakfast 7 September 2013 14: 08 New
              0
              Rather anti-advertising! But what about the notorious "stealth"?


              And here in general "stealth"? It's about the BR simulator.
    2. clidon
      clidon 6 September 2013 17: 22 New
      0
      To begin with, no one has yet intended to shell Syria's RSD. If only because there are no such missiles in the arsenal of NATO.
  23. wax
    wax 6 September 2013 13: 43 New
    +4
    There was nothing preplanned. By all means, information is collected to determine the forces and means for the first strike, which, according to the plan, should be crushing Syrian air defense in order to launch aircraft. Judging by the buildup of the group and the attraction of Allied forces, the States have to adjust their plans and calculations in the direction of increasing the density and power of the first strike.
  24. Forest
    Forest 6 September 2013 14: 04 New
    +2
    Israeli readers do not comment on something — it is interesting to hear their version.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 6 September 2013 15: 22 New
      +1
      Assad representatives said they would hit Israel in the event of any strike against Syria, and would also hit with chemical weapons. Do you think that in such conditions it is necessary to sit on the priest evenly or to work out a possible opposition to the attack?
      1. ultra
        ultra 6 September 2013 15: 51 New
        +7
        Quote: Pimply
        Assad’s representatives said they would hit Israel in the event of any strike on Syria,

        Well, you have a state of war with Syria. So this is quite natural.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 6 September 2013 17: 56 New
          -1
          Quote: ultra
          Well, you have a state of war with Syria. So this is quite natural.

          Is logical. So I ask again - do you suppose that in this case you have to sit on the priest exactly?
          1. scientist
            scientist 6 September 2013 18: 58 New
            +3
            The more even you sit, the calmer you will live. Ask yourself why Syria and Israel are not among the 188 states that have signed and ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention! And no one remembers or talks about this. Why is the question of the destruction of this chemical weapon still not raised? Obviously, in the United States and Israel there are forces that really need these thousands of tons of chemical weapons to fall into the hands of international terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda and with which they can hit anyone. What to take from them - terrorists that want to do something. But the NSA and the CIA have nothing to do with it! And if there is a connection between the CIA and chemical attacks, then another former CIA officer such as Ben Laden will be quickly appointed, who will be fired the day before this attack, and Assad will be the last for any. Surely in Hollywood a film is being shot about this “chemist”.
          2. ultra
            ultra 6 September 2013 22: 32 New
            0
            Quote: Pimply
            Need to sit on the pope exactly?

            Well, why? Take action! Just not so clumsy! They started it and declare it after the fact, and do not give up!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 7 September 2013 13: 26 New
              -1
              Quote: ultra
              Launched and declare post factum, and do not deny!

              So it was announced after the fact. You will find where there was a denial - well, except in this article?
      2. Forest
        Forest 6 September 2013 16: 17 New
        +1
        Yes, the strike from the sea from Assad is the most "expected" and the timing of the exercises is "appropriate".
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 6 September 2013 17: 57 New
          -2
          The important thing is not direction, if you are not in the know, but checking the effectiveness of the systems.
          1. ultra
            ultra 6 September 2013 22: 34 New
            +2
            Quote: Pimply
            , if you are not in the know, but checking the efficiency of the systems.

            Do you happen to work in the Israeli Defense Ministry? It’s painfully informed! laughing
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 7 September 2013 13: 27 New
              0
              Quote: ultra
              Do you happen to work in the Israeli Defense Ministry?

              I worked as a journalist, including on military topics.
          2. Forest
            Forest 9 September 2013 09: 44 New
            0
            In a specific case, the direction is IMPORTANT, and you know this, therefore, you defame: "They did not start, then they checked."
      3. Lone gunman
        Lone gunman 6 September 2013 16: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: Pimply
        In such circumstances, do you need to sit on the priest level or do you need to work out a possible counter attack?


        It’s necessary to crawl on his knees in Obama’s office so that he would not start a war-aggression against Syria, in this situation I would be on the side of Israel (the whole world against war), and not provoke the world with stupid and missile launches ...
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 6 September 2013 17: 58 New
          0
          Quote: Lone gunman
          It’s necessary to crawl on his knees in Obama’s office so that he would not start a war-aggression against Syria, in this situation I would be on the side of Israel (the whole world against war), and not provoke the world with stupid and missile launches ..

          With what joy is crawling on my knees?
          And with what joy Obama, who launched the flywheel, will put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States.
      4. yanus
        yanus 6 September 2013 16: 20 New
        +5
        Quote: Pimply
        Do you think that in such conditions it is necessary to sit on the priest evenly or to work out a possible opposition to the attack?

        Sitting on the pope is absolutely not necessary. But provoking missile launches at the moment when Syria expects a strike is also somewhat strange.
        So planned exercises are stupid
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 6 September 2013 17: 59 New
          -4
          Quote: yanus
          Sitting on the pope is absolutely not necessary. But provoking missile launches at the moment when Syria expects a strike is also somewhat strange.
          So planned exercises are stupid

          Respected. Nowhere is it said that the exercises are planned. They are unplanned - just because of the situation.
          1. yanus
            yanus 6 September 2013 18: 12 New
            +2
            Quote: Pimply
            Respected. Nowhere is it said that the exercises are planned. They are unplanned - just because of the situation.

            Then all the more stupid.
    2. scientist
      scientist 6 September 2013 18: 27 New
      0
      Read comments Pupyrchego.
      1. Mervik
        Mervik 8 September 2013 01: 47 New
        0
        Quote: Mervik
        And you, the representative of a smart, but harmful people, how can you allow the land to be bombarded which keeps memory and is an artifact of great events! the doctrines bearing the gospels have forgotten! (representative of the flag of Israel)

        Yes, even allow - Who ?! Americans! To a people without a nation! The people who have exterminated almost completely the aborigines of the land on which they live! This means that he does not respect his history! And that means not having it! Don't be like them! You, the representative of the people of the Land of Israel, the representative of a nation that has the basic burden of enlightening "DO NOT KILL!" Hypocrites
  25. stankomi
    stankomi 6 September 2013 16: 52 New
    +2
    In addition, the Israeli military said that the tests were conducted with American assistance.

    So trust the Jews after that.
    Sold with the giblets of an American! Like I wasn’t alone, I'm with John.))
  26. clidon
    clidon 6 September 2013 17: 01 New
    -3
    It must be recognized that the moment for test missile launches was chosen extremely unsuccessfully.

    The best time is war on the nose, and Damascus has ballistic missiles.
  27. TS3sta3
    TS3sta3 6 September 2013 17: 42 New
    0
    not so sad at the expense of the BRDS:
    "Iskander" (the index of the complex is 9K720, according to the classification of the US and NATO Defense Forces - SS-26 Stone, Eng. Stone) - a family of operational-tactical missile systems (OTRK): Iskander, Iskander-E, Iskander-K.
    As part of the Iskander-M OTRK, R-500 cruise missiles can be used, the firing range of which, according to some statements, exceeds 2000 km.
    The P-500 is a Russian high-precision medium-range subsonic cruise missile designed for the Iskander complex - it is a more modern version of the Soviet 3M10 Grenade with a radius of 2600 km, which was created for the armament of Soviet nuclear submarines.
    1. clidon
      clidon 6 September 2013 18: 05 New
      0
      KR this cannot be produced or tested, because the limitations of the INF Treaty apply.
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 6 September 2013 18: 59 New
        0
        Really? This treaty is about medium-range ballistic missiles, not cruise missiles.
        1. clidon
          clidon 6 September 2013 20: 39 New
          +1
          Read the contract. He also touched medium-range ground-based cruise missiles.
          1. Arabist
            Arabist 6 September 2013 22: 17 New
            +1
            Well, I admit I was mistaken.
  28. left-wing
    left-wing 6 September 2013 18: 16 New
    0
    I wish there were several dozen such missiles from the territory of Syria in the fleet of aggressors, that would be a good lesson, it’s a pity that Syria does not have such weapons ....
    1. scientist
      scientist 6 September 2013 19: 14 New
      0
      Why not! Syria has at least 2 coastal complexes of the Bastion, with very good cruise missiles PKR K-310 Yakhont. It is for this reason that the United States and Israel are working on the first strike of the BDR, which for some reason they call targets.
      1. clidon
        clidon 7 September 2013 09: 22 New
        0
        - The flight range of "Yakhont" (300 km) will not allow shooting at the AUG.
        -BRSD is not in service with NATO.
      2. Witold
        Witold 7 September 2013 16: 04 New
        0
        And "Yakhontov" is no longer there. We need to watch the news more often. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgkiHliZDiU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5VAyz97fSY
  29. darksoul
    darksoul 6 September 2013 18: 21 New
    +2
    With the first baptism of fire DRLS Voronezh
  30. Kir
    Kir 6 September 2013 19: 08 New
    +1
    Sorry, not a prophet, but a few articles earlier wrote about this scenario
    1 To provoke Assad and his Allies to strike at Israel
    2 Speech to the UN General Assembly with definite and fiery speeches condemning the monsters who encroached on, etc., etc.
    3 Actually the main action is a strike on Syria with a desire also on Iran
    But before all this, the check for lice in the first and foremost of Our homeland, all the vokurats under the start-up scheme with a check will not be spotted and if they spotted what is the reaction, on the other hand the information component here is visible on the forum like the US government is opposing its people, and indeed pursues pro-Alaskan-English policy, you believe in it I No !!! Forgive this, it’s somehow strange considering the rather frequent cases of friendly fire on the one hand and on the other, though a bad world but still not a war of extermination, forgive me here it turns out that the Israeli government is working out money and not vice versa !!! Especially in this scheme are tests that fit the minke whales friendly to Israel, the conclusion is yours ....
  31. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 6 September 2013 19: 25 New
    +1
    Under the wing of the F-15 "Blue Sparrow"

    And it should be "blue jew"name.
    1. old man54
      old man54 6 September 2013 23: 24 New
      -2
      Quote: Hedgehog
      Under the wing of the F-15 "Blue Sparrow"

      And it should be "blue jew"name.

      NO, it won’t do it, there are a lot of them, in Israel, blue, almost everything. laughing The "pimpled" one came running back here, to Russia, apparently he didn't like practicing ... sadom affairs! lol
  32. fotii
    fotii 6 September 2013 21: 29 New
    0
    Apparently there was a desire of our "partners" to track the work of the Syrian air defense, especially from the passive one - the inclusion of an active mode of operation of the C300. IMHO if they are.
  33. berimor
    berimor 7 September 2013 00: 31 New
    +1
    I am a former air defense officer of the country. I believe that this is pure provocation !!! Firstly, when such exercises are carried out, it is necessary to warn, especially since the situation in this region is extremely tense! Secondly, it is also a check for lice. We hoped that everything would go unnoticed. Not without reason did everyone put their tongue in z-zu, but when Russia declared that it had discovered the target in time, they began to get out! Well, this incident very much resembles another, which happened on May 1, 1960, when our air defense shot down a U-2 spy plane. Then the Americans were also silent at first (Khrushchov did not immediately disclose the true state of affairs), but when Eisenhower (then U.S. President) swallowed the bait (they thought Powers had died), then the USSR gave the whole world the truth. The United States then ... to the fullest.
    1. vikruss
      vikruss 8 September 2013 05: 10 New
      0
      Very true
  34. Mervik
    Mervik 8 September 2013 01: 25 New
    +1
    Quote: Mervik
    And you, the representative of a smart, but harmful people, how can you allow the land to be bombarded which keeps memory and is an artifact of great events! the doctrines bearing the gospels have forgotten! (representative of the flag of Israel)

    What do you mean - To whom !? To the Americans! A nation without a nation, without a history. And how does this people relate to the ancestors on which they live? They practically destroyed Aboriginal people in due time !!! And now they want to destroy the aborigines and on foreign territory guided by justice! Is this an indicator of hypocrisy?