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Brazil vs Big Brother

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Brazil hit the tops of the world News. The fact is that Dilma Rousseff explained something to Barack Obama. In October, her visit to the United States was planned, but now, in connection with the espionage activities of Big Brother, that is, the NSA, the Brazilian president announced her readiness to cancel the visit. She will agree to fly to Washington only when the White House administration publicly apologizes for electronic surveillance. That's not all: Mrs. Rousseff will punish the United States and financially: she will cancel the planned trade deals with this country. Among other things, Brazil will not buy F-18 aircraft in the amount of $ 4 billion. The strike is delivered at the most opportune time: the US budget is sequestered, export is desperately needed. Well, you’ll get this very plague, aenbeshnik spies ...


Brazil vs Big Brother


As passed correspondent ITAR-TASS Alan Badov, Brazil is ready to cancel the planned deals with the United States, including the agreement on the purchase of military aircraft "Super Hornet" in the amount of 4 billion from Boeing.

The reason for the possible "cool" decision was that the US National Security Agency, as it turned out, was tracking phone calls and emails from Rousseff, as well as her Mexican colleague Enrique Peña Nieto. The revelations were based on documents transmitted to the press by Edward Snowden. This was announced by the Brazilian TV channel “Globo TV”.

Now Dilma Rousseff is thinking about whether to postpone her visit to Washington scheduled for October on 23. Indeed, few people will like the perusal of mail and telephone eavesdropping. Especially not like it to someone who considers peeping and listening to a business partner and is preparing to count billions to a partner.

"BBC" clarifies that the surveillance of Rousseff became known from a statement by journalist Glenn Greenwald, who received information from Snowden. Comrade Greenwald claims that the NSA had access to the correspondence of the Brazilian president with her closest advisors.

Channel "Euronews" reports that Brazil intends to discuss the issue of espionage of US special services in the United Nations, as well as with the BRICS partners. This was stated by the country's foreign minister Luis Alberto Figueiredo.

“As I stated earlier, we have begun negotiations with different countries, both with developed and developing countries, including the states of the BRICS group. It is necessary to discuss this issue together, because we are sure that it affects the interests of all countries, ”the head of the Brazilian Foreign Ministry said. He added that a joint action plan should be developed.

According to correspondent RIA Novosti Oleg Vyazmitinov With reference to Telesur, Brazilian Justice Minister Edouard Cardoso said that if the facts of surveillance are confirmed, this would be a "serious violation of the sovereignty" of the country. According to him, the United States government should provide a “clear explanation”. "This is very serious, it affects Brazil, we are waiting for explanations in order to study and consider them."

The country's Foreign Ministry has already called for an explanation from US Ambassador Thomas Shannon.

Brazilian Foreign Minister Luis Alberto Figueiredo, following his meeting with the American ambassador, said that he would pass the demands of the Brazilian government to the White House. Also Comrade Figueiredo hopes that the US authorities will respond to Brazil in writing, and without intermediaries: "We want the explanations to be provided by the government itself, and not by the ambassador."

Russian service "Voice of America" points out that the Brazilian government condemned the US electronic surveillance program, calling it (the program) an “unacceptable violation” of national sovereignty, and also called for the development of international norms designed to protect citizens and the government from cyber espionage.

The note "Voices of America" ​​also reported that the publication in the newspaper "Folha de S. Paulo" suggests that the negative reaction of Brazil in connection with the "American programs" is increasing.

As for the early explanations about surveillance, which the United States gave to everyone, they cannot satisfy Brazil.

According to correspondent RIA Novosti Oleg VyazmitinovThe US explanations on the issue of publications spying on Washington for Brazil, including the president, have so far been inconclusive. About this, as reported by Agencia Brasil, said the Minister of Communications, Paulo Bernardo.

"All these explanations <...> turned out to be unsatisfactory - both those that we received from the American embassy and those that our representatives received during their visit to the United States," comrade Bernardo said. The incident "is much more serious than it seemed at first glance," he added.

Thus, Mr. Obama was infringed on all sides. Brazil (and Mexico) will torture his administration with questions about NSA surveillance, the same will be done by Germany and a number of other countries, who previously believed that they have partnerships with the United States and even trust. Russia and China will defend their position on Syria. Britain and many NATO countries refuse to directly participate in the anti-Syrian aggression of Washington. Many American soldiers, officers and veterans spoke out against the war in Syria on the Internet — moreover, they said they did not want to fight on the same side with al-Qaeda. Rumors that Obama is a Muslim and even an Islamist, a fan of the Muslim Brotherhood, have come to life in the network. Finally, V. Putin did not only give temporary refuge to the fugitive Snowden, which earned him a big political point, but did not go towards the American public with respect to some loosening up for the "blue" at the 2014 Olympiad. And this is not to mention the budget sequestration in the United States and the growing US government debt, which has reached fantastic proportions under Obama, so that the operation in Syria will probably be financed not by the White House, but by Saudi Arabia.

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  1. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 6 September 2013 09: 24 New
    12
    amers are running out from all sides, God willing, crush !!! Faster
    1. experienced
      experienced 6 September 2013 09: 36 New
      27
      I liked the situation at the G-20 summit, when it either happened by chance or was put by a specialist next to Obama. In the news, her pursed lips constantly flashed and how she turned away from Obama and his somewhat tense look. A lady, with a passionate natural temperament, slaps a slap in the face or sticks a pencil in her eye, so sit and smile, and 21 she constantly squeezes ... wassat
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 6 September 2013 09: 49 New
        13
        Quote: seasoned
        A lady with a passionate natural temperament will slap a slap in the face or stick a pencil in her eye

        Judging by the photo, it can put out a goby about the eyes ...yes
        1. crazyrom
          crazyrom 7 September 2013 22: 10 New
          +1
          At one time, she fought against the military dictatorship, almost like a partisan, and they caught her and tortured her. She robbed banks (well, for the benefit of the revolution). In short, a woman. So let's hope Obama will not give a descent. Hurry, we would have already bought our aircraft instead of these stupid F-18s, this is 4 billion dollars, they won’t stop us.
      2. sir.jonn
        sir.jonn 6 September 2013 09: 55 New
        +9
        Obama would have missed this summit with great pleasure, but this would have further compromised him. It can be seen that it smells really fried, they drive Obama in all positions and even allies. laughing
        1. vyatom
          vyatom 6 September 2013 11: 54 New
          12
          It will soon become clear that there is too little democracy in Brazil with all the ensuing consequences.
          1. sir.jonn
            sir.jonn 6 September 2013 14: 40 New
            +4
            Quote: vyatom
            It will soon be revealed that Brazil has too little democracy

            And that's for sure. Everyone with an American dictate across their throats is not democratic enough.
          2. Very old
            Very old 7 September 2013 15: 45 New
            +1
            May it be for you, democracy in Brazil. For B.O. there are only "many, many monkeys"
      3. ultra
        ultra 6 September 2013 13: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: seasoned
        whether they planted her specialist

        Do you doubt it? laughing
      4. Very old
        Very old 7 September 2013 15: 42 New
        0
        What, ALEXEI? Enviable? Watch a good movie. There a man says: "She is good enough in ripe" - a devil!
    2. Ev58
      Ev58 6 September 2013 09: 59 New
      +1
      I advise you to be more restrained and calm in assessing situations and personal expressions of emotions. Politics and citizens are not the same thing.
      1. washi
        washi 6 September 2013 14: 14 New
        +1
        In the case of Latin America - this is the same. They have a tradition of coups. Thanks to the Trotskyist legacy.
      2. Cyber7
        Cyber7 7 September 2013 20: 53 New
        0
        And who says to the Black Lord at the summit - "You are Yondor, my friend"? Brazilian citizens or Brazilian citizen Comrade Rousseff?
        It is precisely here that politics is close to the opinion of citizens. More than ever.
    3. artemiy
      artemiy 6 September 2013 11: 03 New
      +5
      Break Obama's ass on the BRICS flag!
    4. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 6 September 2013 19: 44 New
      +5
      No one comes to the mind of cheers, who would need to learn the rigidity of diplomacy from a Brazilian?
      "She will agree to fly to Washington only when the White House administration publicly apologizes for electronic surveillance. That's not all: Mrs. Rousseff will punish the United States financially: cancel the planned trade deals with this country. Among other things, Brazil will not buy F-18 aircraft for $ 4 billion. " -

      Decent and tough answer. If our politicians behaved in this way, the United States would have thought a hundred times whether to attack Syria or not. Yes, and we would be reckoned with.
      1. carbofo
        carbofo 7 September 2013 01: 55 New
        +1
        Forcing Americans to lick someone’s ass is worth a lot :)
        From a legal point of view, this is an international crime, and requires the reaction of the state.
        And she chose the application point successfully, in fact this is an ultimatum, and it will be awful easy for the State Department to get out of this trap.
        1. S-200
          S-200 7 September 2013 18: 43 New
          0
          Quote: carbofo
          Forcing Americans to lick someone’s ass is worth a lot :)

          yes no - NOT VERY ... request
          colleagues, throw off the links to the "necessary" films to expand the price horizon! wassat
      2. Very old
        Very old 7 September 2013 15: 48 New
        +1
        I don't remember who said: It's time for us to put BABU on "kingdom". And what is .. not joking?
  2. Rus2012
    Rus2012 6 September 2013 09: 25 New
    +6
    The process of separation has begun ... soon there will be results!
    Bravo, Dilma Rousseff !!!
    She is not ours for an hour, is her name very consonant? smile
    1. SvetoRus
      SvetoRus 6 September 2013 11: 14 New
      11
      Dilma, daughter of the Bulgarian Communist Peter Rusev, who emigrated from Bulgaria in 1929.
    2. washi
      washi 6 September 2013 14: 15 New
      +2
      There are many of our emigrants in South America. And a lot depends on them.
  3. pensioner
    pensioner 6 September 2013 09: 40 New
    +7
    Thanks Oleg!
    Brazil (and Mexico) will torment his administration with NSA surveillance
    But about Mexico, I doubt it very much. It is fully state-controlled. The US military is at home there. Anyway, Americans are there on every corner. Without the approval of the states, not a single candidate for governor’s chair will appear. The Americans left the locals only the freedom to fight crime.
    And with crime there everything is in order ... Our guys there at night on the prairie (or whatever it was) took the jeep. And there are passports, laptops working with data, money ... In general, everything. Well, at least they were alive.
    But Brazil can rock the boat. Feels his strength. It was reported that Brazil would soon create its own nuclear weapons. Then the states will have a lot of fun ...
    1. Mart
      6 September 2013 11: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: retired
      But about Mexico, I doubt it very much.


      Questions will still torment. Already tormented.

      Enrique Peña Nieto: “Such espionage is illegal. We demanded that the US government initiate an investigation to determine who was responsible for what happened. We want to know who will answer for this and how. ” Source.

      And from his interview to the RT channel: “The Mexican government made it clear that all these rumors and information leaks should be investigated, and if it is proved that actions violating international treaties and the law were carried out, appropriate sanctions should follow. Mexico demanded an investigation and summoned the US ambassador to receive official explanations on this matter from the US government. I received a promise from President Obama that such an investigation would be conducted, and then it will become known what actually happened. ” Source.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 6 September 2013 13: 15 New
        +1
        Legal-illegal ... you spin a deal with a partner worth billions ... and then it turns out that he listens to you and reads your mail. No, you are not a partner, you are a shoddy horse! "USA Partners" !! Terpily, horse, tupari ...
    2. washi
      washi 6 September 2013 14: 17 New
      0
      Quote: retired
      Thanks Oleg!
      Brazil (and Mexico) will torment his administration with NSA surveillance
      But about Mexico, I doubt it very much. It is fully state-controlled. The US military is at home there. Anyway, Americans are there on every corner. Without the approval of the states, not a single candidate for governor’s chair will appear. The Americans left the locals only the freedom to fight crime.
      And with crime there everything is in order ... Our guys there at night on the prairie (or whatever it was) took the jeep. And there are passports, laptops working with data, money ... In general, everything. Well, at least they were alive.
      But Brazil can rock the boat. Feels his strength. It was reported that Brazil would soon create its own nuclear weapons. Then the states will have a lot of fun ...

      If selected, then this is not ours. This is theirs
    3. Very old
      Very old 7 September 2013 15: 50 New
      0
      Yuri, yes, almost all of South America
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 September 2013 09: 58 New
    +9
    And this is not to mention the sequestration of the budget in the United States and the growing American public debt, which reached fantastic proportions under Obama - so that, probably, not the White House, but Saudi Arabia will finance the operation in Syria.


    Yes, at the G-20 Summit it was already said that the Arab League gave the go-ahead to finance the Merikatos in the war against Syria if they enter Syria. That is, this league is for a full-scale war.
    Dogs!
    1. klavyr
      klavyr 6 September 2013 11: 58 New
      +4
      The Saudis are buying weapons for the Alkaeda from the merikatos, and now they really want to hire them! Apparently, the level of American public debt depends on the outcome of the war in Syria.
    2. Very old
      Very old 7 September 2013 15: 54 New
      0
      The Taliban are few. Who is being raised today? The US rake doesn't seem to help
  5. Skiff
    Skiff 6 September 2013 10: 08 New
    +2
    The current USA resembles a flabby, drunken boxer suffering from Parkenson’s disease, crap everywhere and all, not thinking about the consequences, probably think that they will defeat the whole world, and they will not judge the winners? .... But now, around the world, they are either laughing at the USA , or openly sent to ... I think that the US elite has long betrayed and scored on ordinary people.
  6. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 September 2013 10: 17 New
    +5
    Nice woman. Something tells me, in the near future "suddenly" will get cancer with something fatal. Or in Brazil "suddenly" there will be a "revolution" with the overthrow of an illegitimate tyrant who is shooting at her people. The sniper from the American embassy is bored with nothing to do.
    1. Muadipus
      Muadipus 6 September 2013 11: 07 New
      +7
      Eh, Chavez died miserably, since he had definitely found a common language with Dilma, he would have sung a hundred pounds of song with her.
  7. Predator-74
    Predator-74 6 September 2013 10: 17 New
    0
    That even became a little sorry for Obama.
    1. Muadipus
      Muadipus 6 September 2013 11: 08 New
      +5
      Yes, it’s not easy for blacks to live in America)))))
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 6 September 2013 12: 43 New
        +1
        Yes, it’s not easy for blacks to live in America)))))
        Comrade, right African-American laughing although what's the difference wassat
        1. Muadipus
          Muadipus 6 September 2013 13: 02 New
          +1
          By the way, this applies to blacks in America. But if they live in Asia or Europe, then they should be called "AfroAsiat" Or "AfroEuropean" ?? wassat And this is even if the African American because the continent is America and not a country, then it was AfroRoss, AfroUkr, AfroGol or AfroAvg, and AfroAustra live in Australia.
          1. Very old
            Very old 7 September 2013 16: 03 New
            0
            This so-called political correctness is simply embarrassing. I can’t already say that I am the son of the Slavic people: both Russian and Hohol, with a Belarusian surname. It’s already impossible to say that I can’t stand it ....... You know who
        2. Very old
          Very old 7 September 2013 15: 57 New
          0
          Fucked, so to speak
    2. Very old
      Very old 7 September 2013 15: 56 New
      0
      Guys, don’t minus the man. He’s for Marta.ke humanly, STILL
  8. Slotxnumx
    Slotxnumx 6 September 2013 10: 42 New
    +4
    Well, this is a good reason to strengthen ties with Brazil, to offer them the supply of our SU ... and something else.
    1. Muadipus
      Muadipus 6 September 2013 11: 13 New
      +2
      In light of the fact that Dilma does not act democratically (you’ve thought of something, I’m not happy that they read her mail), it makes sense to put a couple of dozen S-300 divisions and plant several Topol-Ms so that tobacco grows better.
  9. ReifA
    ReifA 6 September 2013 10: 55 New
    +7
    Yes, Brazil should be supported by military contracts so that their money is not pickled.
  10. Stiletto
    Stiletto 6 September 2013 10: 55 New
    +4
    Ordinary Americans feel sorry. In their life now there is a black stripe. No, not black - not so politically correct - African American. But what can be done - state terrorism, which the States have been hunting for for many years, must be punished, without options.
    1. vyatom
      vyatom 6 September 2013 11: 58 New
      +2
      I think ordinary Americans should stand on a broad front for the abolition of all military operations by the forces of the US Army and Navy outside the borders of their country. Repent on their knees for starting wars around the world for a century. The only way.
      1. Very old
        Very old 7 September 2013 16: 06 New
        0
        Vyacheslav, what are you talking about? A wide front, repentance ... Is it YOU offering the military-industrial complex or U. Street?
  11. Muadipus
    Muadipus 6 September 2013 11: 06 New
    +3
    Bravo! Dilma Rousseff, Bravo! The photo is gorgeous, I feel that we will hear about Dilma more than once.

    Cut quote from context:
    And the Foreign Minister of Brazil, Luis Alberto Figueiredo, following the results of his meeting with the American ambassador, said that he would give ...
    I will add that not only that "Will Pass", they are all "Pass" there. And it's time to explain to them why nature gave a man an ass.
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 6 September 2013 12: 21 New
      +2
      Delighted with the new word ...
      I propose to put it into circulation .... very figuratively and vividly ..unfinished
      Peredasti ..... the song is just some kind, not a word.
      1. Muadipus
        Muadipus 6 September 2013 12: 56 New
        +5
        The word is not new, it is from a bearded anecdote:

        Full bus passengers. from the center of the bus, a woman asks the guy to transfer money for the fare:
        F - Young man, please pass the fare
        MCH - Oh, woman, my hands are busy, Georgian will give me
        Georgian indignantly - Who will betray !? I - will pass !? That you will give !!! And your children will also be transferred !!!
        1. Igarr
          Igarr 6 September 2013 13: 16 New
          +3
          I have not heard this ...
          damn .... live a century - and still you can’t remember all the jokes.
          liked it, thanks.
  12. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 6 September 2013 11: 19 New
    +1
    Dilma Rousseff - smart girl. Love her!
    1. Very old
      Very old 7 September 2013 16: 09 New
      0
      Demand continuation of the BANQUET
  13. SvetoRus
    SvetoRus 6 September 2013 11: 23 New
    +2
    Now Dilma Rousseff is thinking about whether to postpone her scheduled visit to Washington on October 23
    Already canceled. Boeing, apparently, also flew with 4 lard.
  14. dropout
    dropout 6 September 2013 11: 31 New
    +2
    Yes, they ssy in the eye, and they are God's dew. They will rub off and continue the same thing: they will eavesdrop and peep and stick their nose in any ass.
  15. left-wing
    left-wing 6 September 2013 12: 17 New
    +1
    The US is plagued by failure, if nothing else is done to Syria it will be their complete collapse
  16. Russ69
    Russ69 6 September 2013 12: 26 New
    +2
    Among other things, Brazil will not buy F-18 aircraft in the amount of $ 4 billion. The strike is delivered at the most opportune time: the US budget is sequestered, export is desperately needed. Well, you’ll get this very plague, aenbeshnik spies ...

    The correct move must be struck at the most painful spot at the Americans.
  17. Horst78
    Horst78 6 September 2013 12: 34 New
    0
    And Brazilian Foreign Minister Luis Alberto Figueiredo, following his meeting with the US ambassador, said that he will transmit.
    If you change p and q, then it's cool laughing
  18. saag
    saag 6 September 2013 12: 35 New
    +1
    "Donna Rosa, from Brazil, where there are many, many wild obisians" (C) :-)
  19. Luga
    Luga 6 September 2013 12: 45 New
    +2
    Still not a fact, unfortunately. And the visit has not been canceled, and four gigabytes can still fly away to ... get it. Baba she is a woman. I hope for good words, no less good deeds will now follow. And with all the same money, Brazil will buy birch sap from Russia. Or a batch of soccer balls. laughing
    Nevertheless, the trend is good.
    If this goes on longer, in twenty years it will be necessary to fight, but not with the whole amers, but to help rebel Texas in the fight against rebellious California. A can of cola can be bought in Manhattan for 50 cents. wink
  20. poccinin
    poccinin 6 September 2013 12: 46 New
    +1
    iron lady 2
  21. scientist
    scientist 6 September 2013 12: 52 New
    +1
    It’s time to drive the information war into the framework of international law, otherwise lawlessness will soon begin.
  22. saag
    saag 6 September 2013 12: 54 New
    +2
    Quote: Luga
    a can of cola can be bought in Manhattan for 50 cents

    "There was a May Day demonstration of workers on 5th Avenue, in the forefront, veterans of McDonald's, the country's oldest enterprise, marched in an honorable formation, the holiday continued with folk festivities in Harlem, in the evening a fireworks was given in honor of the holiday ..." :-)
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 7 September 2013 09: 33 New
      +1
      Sahag, smiled;)
  23. wax
    wax 6 September 2013 13: 49 New
    +2
    South American countries are our main reserve, we must work there in full.
  24. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 6 September 2013 14: 31 New
    +2
    Here is a woman !!! How cool she breaks off the States! It’s not just a whisper to resent (like most male presidents) If they had eaten like that .. Dilma Rousseff is our man !!!
  25. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 6 September 2013 15: 05 New
    0
    Quote: dropout
    Yes, they ssy in the eye, and they are God's dew. They will rub off and continue the same thing: they will eavesdrop and peep and stick their nose in any ass.

    They are also ready to start "Tomahawks" for no reason!
  26. repytw
    repytw 6 September 2013 15: 51 New
    0
    Brazil is a member of the BRIC, and it is necessary within the framework of this organization to support it on a wide front, and diplomatically support it so that Dilma would not give a return move. In economic terms, support can be expressed in Russia's refusal to sell rocket engines to the United States, and there are similar contracts with the USA in other BRIC countries, and maybe other countries will support, then America will certainly not be in Syria if it is thrown at 50-100 billions.
  27. APASUS
    APASUS 6 September 2013 20: 11 New
    0
    If the leaders of the BRICS countries have the intelligence to unite and oppose the United States on one front. Demanding an official apology. That would not worsen the economic climate in Obama, they’ll dance on their table
  28. old man54
    old man54 6 September 2013 22: 42 New
    +2
    I liked the article, "+" of course.
    quote: author
    The rumors that Obama is a Muslim and even an Islamist, an admirer of the Muslim Brotherhood, were revived on the net.

    this is cool, thanks, laughed from the Soul! laughing But it will be even funnier if he turns out to be a Jew, but professing a fanatical Islam! good laughing
  29. officer675
    officer675 6 September 2013 23: 03 New
    +2
    I propose to wait on September 9 (by the way 11 is just around the corner, the date for Sshastan is significant), and only then to comment, the situation may change dramatically. Understand that these non-people are deeply violet on the opinions of others, and the best way to prove their point of view in the modern world, unfortunately, is to scare everyone. Pay attention, they are told, wait for the results of the investigation, UN sanctions, and they are considering the issue of armed aggression against a sovereign country in parliament and they don’t hear anyone. Because there are only their national interests, and the national interests of the rest do not interest them. A sort of reeter from the 90s on the city market - there are only his interests and the local fiscal authorities were bought (that is, the United Nations) or do not give a damn about them) to take from everyone and only himself who is against that totalitarian regime ...
  30. slaventi
    slaventi 7 September 2013 02: 39 New
    +1
    In October, her visit to the United States was planned, but now, in connection with the espionage activities of Big Brother, that is, the NSA, the Brazilian president announced her readiness to cancel the visit.
    A woman is not a gift with character. Something looks like Fidel in her youth and a cigar suits her.
  31. D_L
    D_L 7 September 2013 15: 02 New
    +1
    Dilma is very sober and adequate. How it is necessary to put in place the presumptuous uncles!
  32. Vanya2013F
    Vanya2013F 8 September 2013 00: 02 New
    0
    The President of Bolivia just whined for decency and let's continue to bend under the owner, so it will be here. Yesterday Germany condemned the US actions in Syria and now with both hands for, Merkel feels the "place" Place, I said the place! and Merkel whined!
  33. The Indian Joe
    The Indian Joe 8 September 2013 02: 09 New
    0
    Respect of Brazil.
    Yes, the Yankees got another click on the balls.