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Syrian C-300 SAMs reach combat readiness no earlier than the end of 2014

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Syrian C-300 SAMs reach combat readiness no earlier than the end of 2014

Moscow probably supplied Damascus with the first launchers and anti-aircraft guided missiles (SAM) of the C-300PMU-2 air defense system, according to the World Trade Analysis Center weapons (TSAMTO). In this case, the achievement of full combat readiness of Syrian C-300 can be expected no earlier than the end of 2014, the beginning of 2015, noted in TSAMTO.


As noted in TSAMTO, “the contract seems to be concluded for the supply of C-XNUMPPMU-300 AAMS. Realization of supplies according to such a complex system, which includes many components, is carried out in stages. "

According to experts, Syria under this contract could have been delivered at the first stage part of the launchers of type 5P85CE (5P85TE) and Zur 48H6X2 in containers, as well as part of the logistics.

The standard composition of the C-300PMU-2 air defense system includes: the command point of the control system (CS) 83М6Е2, up to six anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) 90Ж6Х2, 48Н6Е2 air defense systems, hardware. The 83М6Е2 control unit includes: a combat control point (PBU) PBU 54K6Е2, radar detection 64Н6Е2, operational support equipment.

Each SAM 90ZH6E2 include: multifunctional radar illumination and aiming (RPN) 30N6E2 to 12 launchers type 5P85SE (5P85TE), all-altitude detector (VZV) 96L6E with full-azimuth multibeam phased arrays.

As noted by the Center, “as a rule, the delivery of key components that ensure the integration of the system into a coherent whole is carried out last. This is determined by the sequence of assembly and installation of the system in the country of purchase. In particular, this applies to the command point of the control system, the command and control center, radars and all-high-altitude detectors. ”

In addition, without the transfer of the complete set and the integration of all elements of the complex, the system cannot be used to solve problems for its intended purpose.

Supposedly, deliveries under this contract should be completed no earlier than mid-year 2014. After delivery, commissioning and comprehensive verification of the operation of all the equipment included in the C-300PMU-2 ZRS, it will take some time to train Syrian specialists.

“Therefore, the achievement of full combat readiness of Syrian C-300PMU-2 (if they ultimately are delivered in full standard equipment) can be expected no earlier than the end of 2014 — the beginning of 2015 of the year,” noted TSAMTO.

It should be noted that on Wednesday, President Vladimir Putin announced that Damascus had already received separate components of the C-300 anti-aircraft missile systems from Moscow, but the delivery has not yet been completed, so now it is impossible to use the delivered C-300 as a single air defense system.

The C-300PMU-2 Favorit, a versatile mobile multi-channel anti-aircraft missile system, is designed to defend the most important objects from the massive strikes of modern and advanced aircraft, strategic cruise missiles, tactical and operational-tactical ballistic missiles and other means of air attack in the entire speed range of their combat use , including when exposed to intense active and passive interference.

The C-300 system is a further development of the C-300PMU-1 anti-aircraft missile system. Combat capabilities increased due to the creation of a new 48H6Х2 rocket, which has an increased effectiveness of hitting ballistic targets at ranges up to 40 kilometers while ensuring the detonation of the combat charge of the target, increasing the distant border of the strike zone of aerodynamic targets to 200 kilometers, including when firing in pursuit, expanding the information capabilities of the command point system for detecting and tracking ballistic targets while maintaining aerodynamic targets detection sector.

In addition, the system performance when conducting autonomous combat operations through the use of a new autonomous target designation radar 96L6E is enhanced, along with the 48H6X2 missiles, it is possible to use the 48H6E ZRS C-300PMU-1 missiles, the system can be integrated with the same systems, and the system will be set by the system, and the system will be set by the system, and the systems will be implemented, by the system, the system will be implemented, the systems will be set by the system, the systems will be implemented by the systems, the systems, the systems, the C-XNUMXPMU-XNUMX, the integration of the system, the systems, and the systems will be implemented; including in the air defense system of the NATO countries.
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  1. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 5 September 2013 10: 39 New
    +1
    Well, what else can pendos reassure themselves with!
    1. Login_Off
      Login_Off 5 September 2013 11: 44 New
      22
      And who said that the Pens are soothing? Maybe our hat-racers are preparing a way out.
      That means our Migi shoot down that the pilots are bad, then the SAM personnel are not trained, and now the "komputer" has not been installed.
      As a result, it’s not Pensy who lose, but Russia, because the reputation of arming falls below the plinth.

      It was necessary to give a damn and put everything in Syria at once, with the proviso of protecting the civilian population from "accidental" missile hits. Someone doesn't give a damn, the UN, NATO, but we ... well, they said we will bomb it, so we will bomb it, and even we will be paid for it.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 5 September 2013 11: 57 New
        17
        Quote: Login_Off
        And who said that the Pens are soothing? Maybe our hat-racers are preparing a way out.
        That means our Migi shoot down that the pilots are bad, then the SAM personnel are not trained, and now the "komputer" has not been installed.
        As a result, it’s not Pensy who lose, but Russia, because the reputation of arming falls below the plinth.

        Or maybe we won’t beat the bells? Here the Yankees will turn up, then we'll talk about forecasts ...
        1. Stiletto
          Stiletto 5 September 2013 12: 07 New
          12
          I didn’t go over the article, but I should have. Well, what for rang out to the whole world about the fact that the complexes are not ready for use? This is, in fact, an invitation to amers - bomb calmly, there will be no opposition ... sad
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 5 September 2013 12: 10 New
            +9
            Quote: Stiletto
            I didn’t go over the article, but I should have. Well, what for rang out to the whole world about the fact that the complexes are not ready for use? This is, in fact, an invitation to amers - bomb calmly, there will be no opposition ...

            Not long ago they said that there was nothing at all ...
            Let it be a surprise ... I would like it.
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 5 September 2013 12: 25 New
              14
              Syrian anti-aircraft missile systems S-300 will be ready for combat no earlier than the end of 2014 ... that is, never ... they will probably not be in time already.
              1. smersh70
                smersh70 5 September 2013 12: 44 New
                +2
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                Syrian air defense systems S-300 reached combat readiness not earlier than the end of 2014.



                they will get up, they will get up))))) but I’m afraid that some sort of bearded man with short pants will already command the calculation ....... fellow
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                2. Val_y
                  Val_y 5 September 2013 14: 13 New
                  0
                  Yes, not, like last time, the air defense system Soviet instructors led soldier
                  1. waisson
                    waisson 5 September 2013 20: 28 New
                    +2
                    in 80 years, he served as the MVIZRA air defense so there were Syrians and there was a 300 complex there at that time but of course they didn’t study there they were admitted to 75 and 125 to 200 Germans were allowed to Yugoslavs to study 300. but I think they have a lot of competent officers and they cope with the task as soon as possible
              2. Val_y
                Val_y 5 September 2013 14: 12 New
                +3
                I think that the mattress makers are mentally prepared for the inevitable losses in manpower and equipment (and besides, about the presence of the coastal complex "Bastion" infa leaked out, here's the joke if the Syrians overwhelm the plane laughing )
                1. aviator_IAS
                  aviator_IAS 5 September 2013 14: 33 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Val_Y
                  I think that the mattress makers are morally prepared for the inevitable losses in manpower and equipment (and besides, about the presence of the coastal complex "Bastion" infa leaked out, here's the joke if the Syrians fill up the airplane, laughing)


                  There will be no joke. What are they all stoned in the fleet? Amers are well aware of the "Bastion", and therefore keep a safe distance.
              3. APASUS
                APASUS 5 September 2013 20: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                Syrian anti-aircraft missile systems S-300 will be ready for combat no earlier than the end of 2014 ... that is, never ...

                I think the delivery didn’t make sense at all in this case. Most likely the main secret was our crews for these plants. How they got this business .......... not ours
              4. Arthur 775
                Arthur 775 6 September 2013 11: 55 New
                0
                Yes, this is all, the amers will not calm down. And if we throw together and throw, then there will be a chance (lastly, to see the third world war). Is the question long?
                2 million Syrians left as their refugees from their homeland, this is alarming.
                People’s war can only defeat the enemy of the adversary, die for every stone! And does not become a human shield around objects (what a living shield is on).
                Ameros and climb into the fray, they know about common sense (kurva).
                We can really have prepared the GDP for them (mother of Kuzma) !!!
            2. Airman
              Airman 5 September 2013 17: 20 New
              0
              Quote: Russ69
              []
              Not long ago they said that there was nothing at all ...
              Let it be a surprise ... I would like it.

              To want is not harmful, it is harmful not to want ..
          2. Rus2012
            Rus2012 5 September 2013 12: 28 New
            13
            Quote: Stiletto
            I didn’t go over the article, but I should have. Well, what for rang out to the whole world about the fact that the complexes are not ready for use?

            In fact, TSAMTO describes the essence of delivery technology under normal conditions, as in fact everything would happen. If not for the force majeure of the situation. And this means that the complexes must be ready for combat from the moment the deliveries begin! This means that they must be deployed in a combat-ready state (and with calculations) ...
            Otherwise, all these pieces of iron (and suppliers) are worthless ...
            It does not happen!
            Recall Vietnam and Egypt !!!
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 5 September 2013 12: 51 New
              +3
              Quote: Rus2012
              Recall Vietnam and Egypt !!!

              Right noticed yes ... A notable milestone in the history of the confrontation between the weapons of "probable opponents" hi
          3. its_not_fair
            its_not_fair 5 September 2013 13: 37 New
            +3
            Quote: Stiletto
            I didn’t go over the article, but I should have. Well, what for rang out to the whole world about the fact that the complexes are not ready for use? This is, in fact, an invitation to amers - bomb calmly, there will be no opposition ...

            What do you think that the media is writing the truth.
            Don't be so naive.
            They know the truth, those who are supposed to, and for the rest, information noise is created.
            Let fortune-tellers on coffee grounds.
          4. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 5 September 2013 13: 54 New
            +3
            Quote: Stiletto
            This is, in fact, an invitation to amers

            MOSCOW, Sep 4 - RIA News. The components of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile defense system delivered by Russia to Syria so far do not represent a single combat-ready system, a senior source in the field of military-technical cooperation told RIA Novosti on Wednesday.

            Putin: Russia delivered Syria S-300 components, delivery is not completed
            Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia had supplied Syria with individual components of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system, but the delivery was not completed and was suspended.
            Rosoboronexport has not yet fully implemented the contract for the supply of S-300 complexes. Deliveries have begun, but not completely. They cannot yet be used as a unified combat defensive system, "the source said.
            At the same time, he recalled that Russia had earlier supplied Syria with short and medium-range air defense systems of the Tor and Buk types, as well as the Bastion anti-ship defense system of the coast with Yakhont supersonic cruise missiles.

            RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130904/960645518.
          5. niksup
            niksup 5 September 2013 16: 08 New
            0
            And if they are suddenly ready?
          6. illarion
            illarion 6 September 2013 11: 42 New
            0
            You might think that the USA will change their minds if they read on the TOP that yes, there are missiles in Syria. And their intelligence will be sent to collect mushrooms!
            In general, it would be ridiculous: a volley of cruise missiles and UAVs was neutralized by the electronic warfare, they fell into the water with noise and ... silence. I present morning news on STS!
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 5 September 2013 13: 49 New
          +3
          Quote: Tersky
          Here the Yankees will turn up, then we'll talk about forecasts ...

          MOSCOW, Sep 4 - RIA News 09:04
          "S-300, we delivered individual components, but the entire delivery has not been completed, we have suspended it for now. But if we see that some steps are being taken to violate the current international norms, we will think about what to do in the future, including with the supply of such sensitive weapons to certain regions of the world, "Putin said in an interview with Russian Channel One and the American Associated Press.
        3. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 5 September 2013 17: 25 New
          +3
          Quote: Tersky
          Or maybe we won’t beat the bells? Here the Yankees will turn up, then we'll talk about forecasts.


          Yes, of course we will not, the war will dot all the "i's" and answer all the questions. Only now I would like to get an answer before the whole state was trampled into the Stone Age finally and irrevocably, and thousands of innocent people were killed, and one of the reasons would be the failure to fulfill the contract by Russia concluded in 2011 - well, wasn't that time enough to supply these complexes from the reserve and train staff? Well, we have specialists who are ready to work under a contract with Syria, we also have reserves. It's the same with yaks and moments. I really hope that TSAMTO does not know the real situation with these supplies and they are already ready for battle.
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 5 September 2013 21: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            I really hope that TsAMTO does not know the real situation with these deliveries and they are ready for battle.

            You are doing the right thing, only Assad and "Ko" know about the real situation ..., I agree with the rest that everyone wants to get an answer, but ....
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            one of the reasons will be the failure to fulfill the contract Russia concluded in 2011
            There are many reasons, but they are nothing compared with the main one, Syria itself, which became a bone in the throat of the hegemon and its mongrel. hi
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 5 September 2013 15: 38 New
        0
        Quote: Login_Off
        And who said that the Pens are soothing? May our hat-riders retreat


        What do you think they do?
  2. seller trucks
    seller trucks 5 September 2013 11: 42 New
    +8
    "The Russian Federation managed to supply to Syria almost all of the contracted equipment even before the aggravation of the situation related to the American statements about the possible launching of missile strikes on this country," a source familiar with the situation told Interfax.

    The large landing ships of the four fleets have continuously made shuttle flights between Novorossiysk and the Syrian ports in recent months, "the source said.

    http://vrn.kp.ru/online/news/1527307/
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 5 September 2013 11: 55 New
      +4
      At the BDK, children brought lollipops. fellow
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 5 September 2013 12: 12 New
        +3
        Here's more info. entitled:

        "Russian military experts are already in Syria"

        They train four C-300 divisions for combat

        Military-diplomatic sources confirmed to NG the report of the London-based al-Quds al-Arabi newspaper that the Russian S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems (AMS) are already in Syria with our military advisers. It was noted that the supply of these types of air defense weapons to this country was carried out in the strictest confidence for the past two years


        http://www.ng.ru/armies/2013-05-16/1_siria.html
  3. Victor
    Victor 5 September 2013 11: 45 New
    25
    When Putin so calmly says that the supply of C-300 is only partially completed, it looks like a trap for the Yusovites. They say Syria’s air defense is weak, you can climb, but in fact there will be enough scribe for minke whales. Maybe this judgment is of course a dream, but I really want it to be true.
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    2. Denis
      Denis 5 September 2013 11: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: Victor
      When Putin so calmly says that the supply of C-300 is only partially completed, it looks like a trap for the Yusovites. They say Syria’s air defense is weak, you can climb, but in fact there will be enough scribe for minke whales. Maybe this judgment is of course a dream, but I really want it to be true.

      You can find out only by checking.
    3. Pule
      Pule 5 September 2013 11: 59 New
      +3
      Therefore, the Israelis launched not "rockets", but "targets" into ... the sea. Checked ...
      And ours worked quickly ... and asked not to smoke ...
    4. Metlik
      Metlik 5 September 2013 12: 01 New
      +2
      I do not like such statements. In any case, the authority of the president will not grow.
    5. elmi
      elmi 5 September 2013 13: 56 New
      +6
      Quote: Victor
      When Putin so calmly says that the supply of C-300 is only partially completed, it looks like a trap for the Yusovites. They say Syria’s air defense is weak, you can climb, but in fact there will be enough scribe for minke whales. Maybe this judgment is of course a dream, but I really want it to be true.

      Quote: Denis
      You can find out only by checking.

      Yes, there may be 2 output: 1. NATO bombers will be bombed almost without losses, which means there is no c-300, and the GDP rating will drop sharply and Syria will join the list of countries thrown by Yugoslavia, Iraq, and Lebanon.
      2. The NATO losses will be large, so there is s-300, then the honor and praise of the GDP kept its word.
      Unfortunately, the presence of C-300 can only be checked after the outbreak of hostilities. So time will tell if the NATO trap was organized or if there really is no c-300.
    6. wax
      wax 5 September 2013 16: 02 New
      +1
      Fully - this is 100% with combat crews, everything else: 99% and below is called partially.
  4. Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 5 September 2013 11: 46 New
    +2
    ... now it is impossible to use the delivered S-300s as a single air defense system.


    Perhaps, perhaps ... But as a separate, independent?
  5. carver
    carver 5 September 2013 11: 48 New
    +5
    And I have a feeling that we are right now dragging Americans into a mess in Syria.
    1. Victor
      Victor 5 September 2013 12: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: carver
      And I have a feeling that we are right now dragging Americans into a mess in Syria.

      At one time, they (Yusovtsy), having carried out an elegant combination of misinformation, pulled the USSR into Afghanistan. It is possible that something similar is happening today, only the players have switched places.
  6. GRDS
    GRDS 5 September 2013 11: 50 New
    +7
    If our ships will give target designation to the S-300 (which is what it seems to be), they will drink a lot of blood for the interventionists.
    1. Kubatai
      Kubatai 5 September 2013 11: 59 New
      +4
      Plus .. the reconnaissance ship seems to be already there ... plus the Voronezh station is catching their launches .. the issue of transmitting data on launches is only ...
    2. sir.jonn
      sir.jonn 5 September 2013 12: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: GRDS
      If for the set S-300 target designation will be given by our ships

      I would like to know from those who know on the forum about the possibility of such a mode of operation, if I understand correctly in this case, it is only necessary to prepare launchers with missiles.
      1. GRDS
        GRDS 5 September 2013 12: 13 New
        +4
        Yes! But this requires a communication channel! S-300 can work both with wired communication channels and via radio; there are such opportunities there.
        1. Kars
          Kars 5 September 2013 12: 19 New
          +8
          Yes there is nothing there. All this is a simple show off.
          The Americans will attack, bomb everything - say C-300 was not a combatant.
          Do not attack - everyone will say that they were afraid of C-300.

          Jews have bombed twice already and zero on weight.
          And it would be something to show - photos and videos would have already been posted on the Internet.

          Yes, and it’s like to deliver such a thing in parts. What did they put the PU, but no rocket? Or one radar?
          1. Arabist
            Arabist 5 September 2013 16: 00 New
            0
            Have you personally checked everything?
            1. Kars
              Kars 5 September 2013 16: 15 New
              +1
              Quote: Arabist
              Have you personally checked everything?

              And you?

              By the way, how would you solve the problem of delivering the C-300 complex from point A to point B?


              The standard components of the S-300PS air defense system include the following components:
              GRAU Index Purpose Quantity
              40В6М (MD) universal tower 25 (38) meters for placement of the antenna post Ф1С or Ф5М 2
              5P85With launcher (main) 4
              5P85Y launcher (optional) 8
              5Н63С illumination and guidance radar (on-load tap-changer) 1
              5Н83С The command point of the system as part of the 5Н64С (RLO) detection radar and the 5К56С combat control center (PBU) 1


              what would forward sent? or maybe they would take it apart?
              1. Arabist
                Arabist 5 September 2013 16: 28 New
                0
                I do not, and therefore did not criticize you sharply, and I myself do not claim to eat or not. Neither I nor you can know for sure. Sincerely. To your question, in parts, for example, you couldn’t send an additional PU, but you can start the main one.
              2. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 5 September 2013 18: 04 New
                0
                Quote: Kars
                what would forward sent?

                You forgot to mention spare missiles in Nth amount. And transport for them. With charging devices.
                1. Kars
                  Kars 5 September 2013 21: 27 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Hedgehog
                  Neither I nor you can know for sure.

                  Well, let's see if I will be right or not.

                  Quote: Hedgehog
                  You forgot to mention spare missiles in Nth amount. And transport for them. With charging devices.

                  Is this the first number when sending C-300? Although, probably, first of all, we need spare tires for vehicles to send)))
                  Quote: Arabist
                  To your question, in parts, for example, you couldn’t send an additional PU, but you can start the main one.
                  And from this C-300 is not combat ready?
          2. Aljavad
            Aljavad 6 September 2013 00: 56 New
            0
            the impression that I did not read the article. Such questions....
            "" "As a rule, the delivery of the key components that ensure the integration of the system into a coherent whole is carried out last. This is determined by the sequence of assembly and installation of the system in the customer country. In particular, this concerns the command post of the control system, the command post, radars and all-altitude detectors. "
            1. Kars
              Kars 6 September 2013 11: 52 New
              +1
              Quote: Aljavad
              This is determined by the sequence of assembly and installation of the system in the customer country. In particular, this concerns the command post of the control system, the command post, radars and all-altitude detectors. "

              It’s not funny from such a formulation? To put it simply, they did NOT put ANYTHING. AND INSTALLATION))) self-propelled self-propelled anti-aircraft missile komplles. Fully placed on a self-propelled chassis.

              What is there to mount and assemble?
  7. shpuntik
    shpuntik 5 September 2013 11: 51 New
    +1
    It should be noted that on Wednesday, President Vladimir Putin announced that Damascus had already received separate components of the C-300 anti-aircraft missile systems from Moscow, but the delivery has not yet been completed, so now it is impossible to use the delivered C-300 as a single air defense system.

    Hello, sailed fellow... As they say in the partner SHA: "No comment." wassat
    Glad I will be wrong, but maybe so?
    1. El13
      El13 5 September 2013 12: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: shpuntik
      Damascus has already received from Moscow individual components of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems, but the delivery has not yet been completed

      it said
      Quote: shpuntik
      therefore, it is impossible to use the delivered S-300s as a single air defense system.

      but he didn’t say that ...
  8. Pule
    Pule 5 September 2013 11: 52 New
    +3
    "Note that on Wednesday, President Vladimir Putin announced that Damascus has already received from Moscow individual components of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems, but the delivery has not yet been completed, so now it is impossible to use the delivered S-300 as a single air defense system."
    ... rightly said ... East is a delicate matter ... not to mention politics ...
  9. Scoun
    Scoun 5 September 2013 11: 52 New
    +2
    Hmmm .. the same PMU-2?
    If so then ......... all in all Good.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 5 September 2013 14: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Scoun
      Hmmm .. the same PMU-2?
      If so then ......... all in all Good.

      As for me, it would be better if they put the military version ...
  10. NAV-STAR
    NAV-STAR 5 September 2013 11: 53 New
    +1
    And the Raptor "accidentally" fell near the Syrian-Jordanian border, probably got scared of something and fainted.)))
  11. DEfindER
    DEfindER 5 September 2013 11: 55 New
    +6
    I’m afraid that in 2015 Syria may simply not be there to set up something, check and teach someone, it’s not clear why such delays, as if someone in power has a huge influence on the leadership .. do not we really understand that Syria is fighting for us, and not helping her, means putting war on her doorstep!
  12. Cormorants
    Cormorants 5 September 2013 12: 05 New
    +4
    Yes, you can at least write and say, let the NATO planes verify the integrity of the S-300 wassat
  13. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 5 September 2013 12: 12 New
    0
    Now everything will be decided at the G 20 summit ...
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 5 September 2013 13: 00 New
      +9
      Quote: slavik_gross
      Now everything will be decided at the G 20 summit ...

      Yes, hell does not dare there ...
      All will remain "at their own".
      I bet that they will leave at the end, talk about the importance of the meeting, and that mutual understanding has not been reached.
      Order of the start of operation "retracted Negro" give up on the way to Pulkovo, what would came out, upon arrival, from lYaynera, repeat the gesture Chamberlain: "I brought you the world ...".
    2. mr.rafael-r
      mr.rafael-r 5 September 2013 15: 06 New
      +1
      all the Samites and UNs have long been just fictitious - capable of only friction
  14. pinecone
    pinecone 5 September 2013 12: 12 New
    0
    Quote: DEfindER
    I’m afraid that in 2015 Syria may simply not be there to set up something, check and teach someone, it’s not clear why such delays, as if someone in power has a huge influence on the leadership .. do not we really understand that Syria is fighting for us, and not helping her, means putting war on her doorstep!


    I agree. As the saying goes, "A testicle is dear to Christ's Day," but here it is still unknown to whom the missing components will need to be supplied.
  15. yacht
    yacht 5 September 2013 12: 14 New
    +1
    Apparently, the Syrians will have to fight back not with numerous beeches and shells. Such a supply of S-300 does not make any sense. We are all afraid, we are all bending, and you can break yourself.
    1. ankh-andrej
      ankh-andrej 5 September 2013 14: 50 New
      0
      According to Mikhail Khodarenko, editor of the journal Aerospace Defense, it is unlikely that the United States would confine itself to a few cruise missile attacks. Most likely, a full-fledged air operation will be launched, in the first days of which the weak and outdated air defense of Syria (as happened in Iraq and Libya) will be suppressed and headings (directed against the political leadership) will be inflicted using anti-bunker munitions. And then the US Air Force will deal with the destruction of the heavy weapons of the Syrian army in order to facilitate the victory of the rebels and will conduct bombing "until the last Syrian tank."

      http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/15986151/s-300-siriyu-ne-spasut#ixzz2e0woS
      I43
  16. igor67
    igor67 5 September 2013 12: 19 New
    -5
    Ex-Minister of Defense flees from Syria

    Former Syrian Minister of Defense, General Ali Habib, a prominent member of the Alawite sect, to which Syrian President Bashar al-Assad also belongs, has indeed fled the country and is now in Turkey.

    For the first time, information about a high-ranking official’s infidelity appeared yesterday, and today it was confirmed by a senior member of the opposition Syrian National Coalition in an interview with Reuters.

    Habib became the highest ranking Alawite person who decided to break with Assad during the uprising and civil war in this Arab country.

    Another aspect is indicative: the general fled at a time when forces loyal to Assad seemed to have made progress in the fight against the rebels. On the other hand, in the coming days, the United States and its allies may strike a military strike at Syria’s strategic targets in response to a chemical attack in the Damascus region, which the Syrian leader is accused of.
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks 5 September 2013 12: 34 New
      +9
      Quote: igor67
      Former Syrian Minister of Defense, General Ali Habib


      So what? former general (Mahmoud Ali Khabib-Minister of Defense from 3 June 2009 g. - 8 August 2011 g.) In addition, a banal coward
      1. igor67
        igor67 5 September 2013 12: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: seller trucks
        Quote: igor67
        Former Syrian Minister of Defense, General Ali Habib


        So what? former general (Mahmoud Ali Khabib-Minister of Defense from 3 June 2009 g. - 8 August 2011 g.) In addition, a banal coward

        Ali Habib Mahmoud is a close associate of President Bashar al-Assad. He took part in October 1973 in the Doomsday War against Israel. In addition, in 1982, he commanded units that opposed the IDF in Lebanon. He commanded the 7th Mechanized Infantry in 1985.

        In 1986, Mahmoud became a general. In 1990, he participated in the Gulf War as part of the international coalition to liberate Kuwait from the Iraqi forces of Saddam Hussein. In 1994, Ali Habib was appointed special forces commander. In 1998, he was promoted to major general, and in 2002 was appointed deputy chief of the General Staff.

        On May 12, 2004, he headed the General Staff of the Syrian Armed Forces. He replaced Hassan Turkmani, who was appointed Minister of Defense. In addition, Mahmoud is a member of the Ba'ath /

        On June 3, 2009, President Bashar al-Assad appointed Mahmoud to the post of Minister of Defense. The term of the cadet of Mahmud in this post has expired.


        On September 4, 2013, it became known that Mahmoud sided with the opposition and fled to Turkey.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 5 September 2013 12: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: igor67
          and fled to Turkey

          Where, too, the military is "cleaned up", isn't it? And more abruptly than in Syria. As under Stalin, when he fought against "Tukhachevism".

          So why did Mahmoud Ali Khabib run away and "sided with" (in the sense, settled in the villa and began to denounce and support)?
          1. igor67
            igor67 5 September 2013 12: 57 New
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            Actually, I don’t know his motives for flight, simply. Do not you think that such a rank knows a lot of secrets related to the Syrian army and surrenders everything
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 5 September 2013 13: 18 New
              +2
              It seems to me that they simply do not run away from power. Looks like it flew in.

              And he will "hand over" exactly what is required of him. Wait for an essay on the topic "how I spent this summer" (in the sense of "how the inhuman red-haired Assad poisoned anyone with sarin")
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 5 September 2013 13: 28 New
                +3
                Quote: Spade
                And he will "hand over" exactly what is required of him. Wait for an essay on the topic "how I spent this summer" (in the sense of "how the inhuman red-haired Assad poisoned anyone with sarin")

                Yes-ah ... A sort of Amerovsky piano in the bushes for the summit ...
                "Personal chip" for GDP.
              2. igor67
                igor67 5 September 2013 13: 35 New
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                It seems to me that they simply do not run away from power. Looks like it flew in.

                And he will "hand over" exactly what is required of him. Wait for an essay on the topic "how I spent this summer" (in the sense of "how the inhuman red-haired Assad poisoned anyone with sarin")

                There is no laughing matter if a person of this rank writes an essay on how they spent the summer, it doesn't seem enough, damn it, maybe everyone will go home (steamboats and boats) for some reason everyone wants to destroy life on earth, and don’t have to scream that it is the Jews with Amer who are to blame, everyone is to blame, while no side has acted reasonably, there is such an anecdote:
                HP rides on a Mercedes, calls in on a bridge, also meets HP on the same Mercedes.
                The bridge is narrow, it is impossible to part, both honk, no one misses.
                Both HP get out of the car and begin to find out which of them should be the first to drive.
                - What are you, bro, but I have the latest Mercedes model ?!
                - Yes, I also have the latest model!
                - Yes, I have a chain for a pound!
                - Yes, I also have a pound!
                - Yes, I weigh 120 kilograms!
                - Yes, I am also 120!
                Suddenly, one HP sits in his Merc, gives back.
                The second passes the bridge, stops near the first, opens a window and asks:
                “Bratello, why did you miss me, because we have the same thing?”
                - And you weigh more.
                - How so?
                - I'm on you x * ... Put it.
                1. Aljavad
                  Aljavad 6 September 2013 01: 09 New
                  +1
                  cool joke. The bridge in politics is endless, and you either press forward or surrender.
        2. Yura
          Yura 5 September 2013 13: 28 New
          0
          Quote: igor67
          On September 4, 2013, it became known that Mahmoud sided with the opposition and fled to Turkey.

          He must have calculated everything. If the West does not achieve anything, it will still find a warm place for life under the auspices of the powers that be, and if the fall of Syria does happen, then the West will not have a better candidate for the next president. Everything may be in this world, but the stigma of the traitor is not washed away.
        3. seller trucks
          seller trucks 5 September 2013 13: 39 New
          +1
          Igor, you, as an employee of Massad (source: A. Romanov), could use a more accurate info, I am extremely surprised that you eat matzoh in vain.

          “Media reports that former defense minister Ali Habib is outside Syria are untrue. He is still at home. "

          http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1527649/
          1. igor67
            igor67 5 September 2013 14: 01 New
            +3
            Quote: seller trucks
            Igor, you, as an employee of Massad (source: A. Romanov), could use a more accurate info, I am extremely surprised that you eat matzoh in vain.

            “Media reports that former defense minister Ali Habib is outside Syria are untrue. He is still at home. "

            http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1527649/

            Source A. Romanov laughing I know, he’s already recruited
            1. seller trucks
              seller trucks 5 September 2013 14: 17 New
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              Quote: igor67
              Source A. Romanov, I know, he’s already recruited


              I thought the same thing, now I'm sure he is a double agent
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 5 September 2013 13: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: igor67
      Another aspect is indicative: the general fled at a time when forces loyal to Assad seemed to have made progress in the fight against the rebels. On the other hand, in the coming days, the United States and its allies may strike a military strike at Syria’s strategic targets in response to a chemical attack in the Damascus region, which the Syrian leader is accused of.

      Syrian Serdyukov - to fight and perish - not a jabber.
  17. VladimS
    VladimS 5 September 2013 12: 35 New
    +2
    This traitor and his children will be damned to the seventh kalena.
    Jackal. In the pants imposed. Skin rescues scum.
    1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      NOBODY EXCEPT US 5 September 2013 12: 51 New
      -1
      Apparently he does not read this site and knows a lot more about the real situation in Syria than all the warriors present here .....
  18. rudolff
    rudolff 5 September 2013 12: 54 New
    +4
    Putin has explicitly stated in a recent interview that S-300 shipments to Syria have been suspended. True, he promised to think if attacks on Syria would be delivered without the sanction of the UN Security Council. Earlier it was reported that the supply of aircraft was suspended. In short, Russian foreign policy is in the best traditions of post-perestroika times.
    Socrates (Syria) is my friend, but truth (America) is more expensive.
  19. USNik
    USNik 5 September 2013 13: 09 New
    +1
    Ex-Minister of Defense flees from Syria
    Taak, the first part of the forecast for the Syrian military’s escape came true, now we are waiting for this dog to bark that he personally poisoned civilians and young children by the orders of Assad ... The next act of a bloody play begins.
  20. S-200
    S-200 5 September 2013 13: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: S-200
    Quote: smersh70
    they will get up, they will get up))))) but I’m afraid that some sort of bearded man with short pants will already command the calculation ...

    if this bearded man was not trained to work and maintain the S-300, then it’s like a bone count to a monkey ... one hell doesn’t know arithmetic at this stage of evolution
    And do not dream the game about NOT READY!
    If the S-300 regiment has 4 divisions, and only 1-2,3 divisions are deployed so far, and only 1 division is put on the database (combat duty), then this is normal (it is covered by complexes of the near zone) ....
    It is necessary to prepare the positional area of ​​the 4th divisional regiment S-300 with all the "bells and whistles" ...
    Jews, amers and their special forces "rebels" will kill them first of all ..
    and to send from the bay-flounder into the open field "to war" by all means, then it will be more expensive for yourself!
  21. BARBED
    BARBED 5 September 2013 13: 38 New
    +2
    Guys! Remember our teachings off the coast of Syria, with landing on shore. I think that everything necessary for Syrian air defense was delivered along with specialists for the adjustment and training of the Syrian military. And the Raptor s launched that highlight the complexes.
  22. Kowalsky
    Kowalsky 5 September 2013 14: 00 New
    +1
    “Some of them said that if the US does too, which they did before in other places, they are ready to pay for it. That's how they are loyal to us, ”said Kerry.
    US Secretary of State on Saudi Arabia and other "some". It seems to me that a pack of jackals is going to tear Syria to shreds and even pay for the banquet.
    In this statement, utterly undisguised cynicism strikes. Some countries are ready to openly pay for an aggressive war against another under a far-fetched pretext. Masks are ripped off.
    1. Aljavad
      Aljavad 6 September 2013 01: 14 New
      0
      Have you noticed? The "main" country of the world is going to fight for other people's money! They are, like, "loyal", but the music will no longer be ordered by the states. And those who pay. Here already smacks of prostitution.
  23. Alex-z84
    Alex-z84 5 September 2013 14: 44 New
    0
    Quote: igor67
    Ex-Minister of Defense flees from Syria

    Former Syrian Minister of Defense, General Ali Habib, a prominent member of the Alawite sect, to which Syrian President Bashar al-Assad also belongs, has indeed fled the country and is now in Turkey.

    For the first time, information about a high-ranking official’s infidelity appeared yesterday, and today it was confirmed by a senior member of the opposition Syrian National Coalition in an interview with Reuters.

    Habib became the highest ranking Alawite person who decided to break with Assad during the uprising and civil war in this Arab country.

    Another aspect is indicative: the general fled at a time when forces loyal to Assad seemed to have made progress in the fight against the rebels. On the other hand, in the coming days, the United States and its allies may strike a military strike at Syria’s strategic targets in response to a chemical attack in the Damascus region, which the Syrian leader is accused of.

    The flight of this cowardly rat does not mean anything, all the real military patriots of Syria have remained to defend their homeland, and this former general is just a cowardly jackal.
    1. teleset
      teleset 5 September 2013 16: 14 New
      +2
      So I am surprised at such officials, it seems that children and grandchildren have survived to gray hair, he probably would have sent them to RUSSIA. And he himself would have sewn up his country, if you looked then a photo in a frame would have hung the university, such our minister would have fought with the Jews and Amers would have been a hero of the country. And then that, as a rat escaped from a sinking ship, well, he will live 10-15 years more, but how to remember it will be at home ... After all, he himself chose this profession as a military man. the more so in his reptiles there is nothing left to lose; the children and grandchildren are probably. if it’s already boiling so close in your office and shoot yourself as expected.
  24. clidon
    clidon 5 September 2013 15: 47 New
    0
    Who will tell the truth now. But the position, as already noted here, is convenient - if the Americans are overwhelmed, then we have arranged a trap for them, and if they cannot - "Well, what did you want? Only by 2014."
  25. ASD
    ASD 5 September 2013 16: 07 New
    0
    Probably, all the same, there is no S-300 air defense system in Syria on combat duty, because everyone would immediately know, since they can be seen even from satellites. Yes, and she is very vulnerable, without PBU and RLS divisions will be easily destroyed.
  26. Siberian
    Siberian 5 September 2013 16: 28 New
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    Syrian C-300 SAMs reach combat readiness no earlier than the end of 2014
    Here amers are likely in a hurry.
  27. December
    December 5 September 2013 17: 04 New
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    I think many would gloat if suddenly the "Bastion" gets the arrogant invaders and scratches the belly of the aircraft carrier))) YES, and if the S-300 on alert still appear earlier, tk. Beech and Pantsyr are still not as scary as the S-300.
    1. fero
      fero 5 September 2013 20: 39 New
      0
      They won’t get it, they’ll just get shot down earlier ... even if the aircraft is approaching the shore at a distance of a shot, how many Onyx hits there? .. km 200-300. What the hell is it asking ships to get so close to shore? Axes hit further
  28. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 5 September 2013 18: 31 New
    +2
    If there is the possibility of target designation on the radio channel, and ours, in my opinion, do not hide what they will indicate, then it can be okay that not the whole system is installed. Even better if it is for example radars, they will not be guided by the radio beam. And for advertising, 10-20 starts with a high hit ratio are enough. It would be nice to work to the fullest in this case.
  29. voliador
    voliador 5 September 2013 19: 55 New
    0
    Little time, catastrophically little.
  30. VladimS
    VladimS 5 September 2013 22: 20 New
    +1
    We can only hope, wait, and as they say God help them.
    Hang on Syria !!!
    If there are higher powers and the same justice, Syria will not be left without protection.
  31. GDP
    GDP 6 September 2013 11: 34 New
    0
    Road spoon for dinner ...