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China sent ships of the PLA Navy to the shores of Syria

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Despite the fact that the political decision to send ships apparently was taken a long time ago, it is only now becoming known about it from unofficial sources. So the Chinese military blog, which specializes in articles on military equipment of the United States, Russia and China, reported that several Chinese ships are already approaching the shores of Syria, citing their sources in the PLA.


China sent ships of the PLA Navy to the shores of Syria

At the same time, the authors openly admit that the ships will not participate in any way in a potential conflict, but only observe the actions of NATO and Russian ships.

What kind of ships were sent to the shores of Syria is unknown. Meanwhile, on the social network Vkontakte, with reference to a confidential source, information appeared that the Chinese ship of the Jinggangshan project was seen while passing the Red Sea towards the Suez Canal.

“2 hours ago, this pepelats passed us in the direction of the Suez Canal. The board number is 999. The speed of 14 nodes, judging therefore, has specific instructions to be at a certain point. We are now in the Red Sea somewhere in the center, ”the author wrote.

According to the boarding number, it was later possible to find out that this is the Chinese universal landing ship-dock Jinggangshan, which can carry an air-cushion landing craft on board, or other large cargoes.

Recall that according to a number of sources in Syria, there may be Chinese counterparts of the C-300 systems. Meanwhile, no one has officially confirmed this information, and the Chinese landing ships were not seen in the ports of Syria.
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  1. experienced
    experienced 5 September 2013 12: 07
    124
    But this is a good move from China good Really good news, it's nice that they stand shoulder to shoulder with Russia.
    Maybe the Chinese will "remember" how NATO "accidentally" bombed their embassy in Yugoslavia and "accidentally" teach the same thing? repeat
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 5 September 2013 12: 09
      51
      It’s good if with Russia ... but you never know ...
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 5 September 2013 12: 37
        32
        Quote: il grand casino
        It’s good if with Russia ... but you never know ...

        For example, with whom? When voting in the UN Security Council to maintain a database against Syria, there were so many representatives of countries that there were no opponents and supporters ..
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 September 2013 12: 55
          71
          Still, the Chinese would have pulled their aircraft carrier, then it would be really fun belay
          What are China, what is Russia showing to the whole world that the time of the USA has passed. And I think the world will notice it .... uh, six does not count.
          1. Scoun
            Scoun 5 September 2013 13: 05
            29
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            six does not count

            Alexander .... it’s kind of like that .. the USA has become the main six with a baton.
            Sheikhs are ready to pay the American blow to Syria
            The head of the Pentagon cheapened, estimating the cost of shelling Syrian targets at only $ 100 million US Secretary of State John Kerry confirmed that a tempting offer was received from Saudi Arabia and the UAE: the sheikhs expressed their willingness to pay for the American strike on Syria.
            1. a52333
              a52333 5 September 2013 16: 45
              12
              BUGAGA wink lol
              The head of the Pentagon cheapened, estimating the cost of shelling Syrian targets at only $ 100 million
              Let the price show. How much is Wall Street bombing ?? A city in London ???
            2. kirmikchi181178
              kirmikchi181178 5 September 2013 21: 01
              +5
              They will pay if the amers conduct a ground invasion. The Pentagon is in thought.
            3. Horst78
              Horst78 6 September 2013 11: 55
              +3
              Hmm !!! wassat And the United States is definitely an independent superpower ??? what
            4. Cadet787
              Cadet787 8 September 2013 14: 49
              +2
              Pen-wasps have become a real six among the Arab sheikhs, who hire them to fight for money. Shame and shame of the "great power" if they consider themselves to be such.
          2. VasDA
            VasDA 5 September 2013 14: 25
            28
            Sixes, it turns out, are still like "IN THE COUNT" ... On the Russia 24 channel in the running line there was information that the military operation of the US fleet would be paid for by Arab countries. That's it ... That's why they start bombing, which is not at their own expense. Stsuki ...
            1. matross
              matross 5 September 2013 14: 46
              50
              Quote: VasDA
              US fleet military operation will pay Arab countries

              Mercenary? Statewide? This is something new. And how much do they take? Maybe we will outbid and let the Saudis with cataracts iron out. We’ll cut the boot honestly ... wink
              And we decide with the Security Council that, unanimously, for the rights of the Arab nations laughing
              1. Jin
                Jin 5 September 2013 16: 25
                +8
                Quote: matRoss
                Mercenary? Statewide? This is something new. And how much do they take?


                The costs were estimated at 200 bucks ... In the United States they hinted that instead of bombing, they needed money for that, and for that, and the kerry said: "Spookuha, the Arabs pay for everything if Syria will be the same as with another poor country They know the script and know everything about it, "he said something like that. Yes, in the morning I watched this action in Russia 000.
            2. -Max-
              -Max- 5 September 2013 21: 05
              +1
              People!
              What are you ???
              And the Fed ???
              What nafig Arabs. The United States will print 200-300-400-500 million dollars.
              And about the LAS for the congress, that "you see how faithful they are to us"
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            4. Tersky
              Tersky 5 September 2013 22: 44
              +1
              Quote: VasDA
              According to Russia’s 24 channel, the information that the US Navy’s military operation will be paid by the Arab countries passed in the creeping line.

              More details-The international coalition for action against Syria is expanding, US Secretary of State John Kerry told 4 on September September, adding that a number of Arab countries have proposed funding for strikes against that country.
              "We get the support of other countries, including the members of the League of Arab States," - quoted by Kerry France-Presse. “The specific countries with which we discussed participation in the operation were Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Turkey and France.”

              Kerry also confirmed that some Arab countries have offered to pay the costs of the operation against Syria. "Some of them said that if the United States is willing to do things the way we have done in other places, then they will bear the costs."



              Details: http://www.regnum.ru/news/1703412.html#ixzz2e1vshmP5
              1. Jin
                Jin 5 September 2013 23: 48
                0
                Quote: Tersky
                More details-


                ttp: //www.vesti.ru/

                Nowhere more ...
              2. Stalinets
                Stalinets 6 September 2013 01: 34
                +3
                So they fought and are waging this war against Syria !! Their special forces and partisans. And now lighthouses for pies are being placed ... This is not news. This is more like a recognition of the fact of participation in the gang. Pedrils ... angry
              3. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 13: 34
                +1
                Stunned! The USA become mercenaries among the Saudis (Jews will work for the Arabs)! This is something !!! A Jew is ready to do anything for the sake of money !!! \ True, by outsiders, who is serving in the army with Amers? \
          3. MG42
            MG42 5 September 2013 14: 35
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Still, the Chinese would have pulled their aircraft carrier, then it would be really fun

            Chinese aircraft carrier "Liaoning" former aircraft carrier "Varyag"?
            Anti-aircraft artillery 3 x 7-barrel 30 mm Type 1130 guns
            Missile weapons 3 x 18-charge launcher launcher FL-3000N
            Antisubmarine weapons 2 x 12-charge PU launchers unknown type
            Aviation group up 30 Shenyang J-15up to 24 Changhe Z-8

            So they do not have a full AUG.
            1. MG42
              MG42 5 September 2013 20: 54
              +1
              I wonder if China may have other aircraft carriers besides Liaoning? Yes, and it is difficult to compare it with US aircraft carriers, version and on the air wing .. Apparently, those who put the "minuses" know something, but they are embarrassed to write .. laughing
          4. KazaK Bo
            KazaK Bo 5 September 2013 17: 20
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Chinas that Russia shows the whole world that the US has passed. And I think the world will notice

            After all, we are with China in the same military-political treaty SHANGHAI ... so, if not by "spark", then they will provide moral support ... and if our ships get hit, then they can ...
            And it can sober up some hotheads at amer.
            In general, everything can ... wait and see!
            1. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 6 September 2013 06: 55
              +1
              Quote: KazaK Bo
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Chinas that Russia shows the whole world that the US has passed. And I think the world will notice

              After all, we are with China in the same military-political treaty SHANGHAI ... so, if not by "spark", then they will provide moral support ... and if our ships get hit, then they can ...
              And it can sober up some hotheads at amer.
              In general, everything can ... wait and see!

              Do not wishful thinking ...
            2. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 14: 16
              0
              What a blow to our ships, this is the war of the USA with RUSSIA !!! Who will do this? Headless McCain, but he is not Obama's glory to GOD ...
          5. Strong
            Strong 5 September 2013 23: 43
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Still, the Chinese would have pulled their aircraft carrier, then it would be really fun belay


            Yes, it would be fun to fly a pair of prototypes of the J-15B away from their shores. Provision of AWACS again, where to get it.

            Although such a long transition would be a very interesting test for the Kuznetsov boiler and turbine sistership.

            But it’s too early.
          6. observer
            observer 10 September 2013 22: 46
            0
            China has only one aircraft carrier, and then a training and testing one, I’m not talking about a full-fledged AUG.
      2. Quiet
        Quiet 5 September 2013 13: 08
        +8
        It’s good if with Russia ... but you never know ...

        At one time we got a hold of it ... But now we need to win and help the global economy survive ... angry drinks
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        1. Canep
          Canep 5 September 2013 13: 53
          42
          I’m certainly not a pacifist, but I don’t really enjoy the news that the Russians and the Chinese will start a war against the United States. You understand, it will be hot even in Antarctica.
          1. unclevad
            unclevad 5 September 2013 14: 18
            24
            For our and the Chinese, the target designation function for air defense and the carrier of "cartridges" is enough.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 5 September 2013 16: 05
              15
              Quote: unclevad
              For our and the Chinese, the target designation function for air defense and the carrier of "cartridges" is enough.

              Ours will give RDO (VZOI), to warn that the Syrians, out of habit, do not oversleep. But the Khins came to spy: how everything in the Navy is done in an adult way. And then they will analyze and draw conclusions.
              1. Semen Semyonitch
                Semen Semyonitch 6 September 2013 06: 59
                +1
                Quote: BoA KAA
                Quote: unclevad
                For our and the Chinese, the target designation function for air defense and the carrier of "cartridges" is enough.

                Ours will give RDO (VZOI), to warn that the Syrians, out of habit, do not oversleep. But the Khins came to spy: how everything in the Navy is done in an adult way. And then they will analyze and draw conclusions.

                Adequate comment ... That's just a +100 throw for nonsense ... hi
            2. Jin
              Jin 5 September 2013 16: 28
              0
              Quote: unclevad
              For our and the Chinese, the target designation function for air defense and the carrier of "cartridges" is enough.


              Question to you then, for whom the air defense target designation? Syria? Iran? Not funny
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          2. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 14: 32
            +2
            And the eternal kingdom of the penguins will come.
            1. Quiet
              Quiet 5 September 2013 14: 51
              -3
              And the eternal kingdom of the penguins will come.

              Well, if "Madagascar" then little will seem to anyone !!! am
            2. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 6 September 2013 07: 02
              0
              Quote: tilovaykrisa
              And the eternal kingdom of the penguins will come.

              Much worse. Penguins need sterility. The kingdom of rats and cockroaches, maybe ...
          3. 123321
            123321 5 September 2013 17: 02
            +4
            It will be hotter if you do not harness for Syria now.
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 14: 25
              0
              That's for sure! And I do not want to fight, well, if I have to ... We will not shame grandfathers and great-grandfathers !!!
          4. ughhh
            ughhh 5 September 2013 17: 53
            +1
            Quote: Canep
            Russians and Chinese will start a war against the United States.

            There can be no open war even in theory. This is precisely why nuclear weapons were created in such numbers. We don’t even have to send missiles somewhere, it’s enough to detonate our entire arsenal at the same time where it will be. Humanity will not survive.
            1. Canep
              Canep 5 September 2013 19: 39
              +1
              Quote: ughhh
              it is enough to detonate our entire arsenal at the same time where it will be. Humanity will not survive

              That was enough when there were 30000 nuclear charges. And after that, those who survived would envy the dead. The current 1500 may not be enough.
              1. Semen Semyonitch
                Semen Semyonitch 6 September 2013 07: 05
                0
                Quote: Canep
                Quote: ughhh
                it is enough to detonate our entire arsenal at the same time where it will be. Humanity will not survive

                That was enough when there were 30000 nuclear charges. And after that, those who survived would envy the dead. The current 1500 may not be enough.

                Not enough to whom ??? Hmm-a-ah-a. It will be a little, not enough ...
            2. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 14: 27
              0
              No, let it be better if their arsenal detonates !!!
          5. Simon
            Simon 5 September 2013 17: 57
            +4
            And Putin said that an attack on Syria without UN sanction is aggression! And now you can think what Putin wanted to say with this and why our fleet is there. request recourse yes
            1. CTEPX
              CTEPX 5 September 2013 18: 42
              +7
              Quote: Simon
              And Putin said that an attack on Syria without UN sanction is aggression!

              If aggression takes place, we would start denouncing international treaties imposed on Russia while we came to our senses)).
              1. Canep
                Canep 5 September 2013 19: 45
                +2
                Quote: ctepx
                start denunciation of international treaties imposed on Russia

                And impose on the US a nuclear arms race, i.e. to do everything exactly as the Americans did in the 80s. Three wars, space oil prices, and the arms race, they are likely to not stand.
                1. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 5 September 2013 20: 09
                  11
                  Quote: Canep
                  to do everything exactly as the Americans did in the 80s.

                  We have a good stance now)). To get an advantage - it is enough to keep the existing trends)). Every day in the life of "Western Civilization" brings it 1 billion dollars of debt PER DAY. And this debt is not virtual. He's real. And to write off this DEBT of "advantages and victories" - they need a war. But not all)). War must be MANDATORY to be implemented by some third force. Like Hitler. Came - out of nowhere, left - nowhere ... Now it is, strenuously cobbled together, "Great Caliphate".
                  A clear fixation of the real aggressor means the futility of war. Debts will not be written off)).
            2. s1н7т
              s1н7т 5 September 2013 22: 15
              -7
              We have a fleet ?!))) how much I overslept!
              1. Semen Semyonitch
                Semen Semyonitch 6 September 2013 07: 08
                +2
                Quote: c1n7
                We have a fleet ?!))) how much I overslept!

                The remnants of former power ...
                1. s1н7т
                  s1н7т 7 September 2013 20: 41
                  -2
                  We have the entire Russian Federation - the remnants of its former power. And everyone gives a fuck that there are less and less of us and we are weaker, people happily squeak, for example, from a dozen new aircraft, and at other times for 2 years of military service in an air regiment (of which there were probably about a hundred only in Soyuei) 2 generations were replaced equipment in the amount of about 50 pieces. - how much is the Air Force ?! So let the "patriots" pass further laughing
                  1. Arabist
                    Arabist 7 September 2013 20: 43
                    +2
                    2 generations in 2 years? Are you nasty?
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          6. s1н7т
            s1н7т 5 September 2013 22: 14
            +5
            The war does not cause normal joy for anyone, but once it is necessary to put in place these ... there are no decent words. And it’s better to put them in their place off the coast of Syria than then on their own!
          7. Spike
            Spike 5 September 2013 22: 56
            0
            If Russia and China seriously intervene, the United States will be struck !!! laughing In general, they could have started a long time ago, but ...
          8. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 14: 20
            0
            Minesweeper, and who told you that we will start the war with Szczas? Why joke like that ... We are a peace-loving country!
      4. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 14: 31
        10
        The Chinese cannot be trusted, it hurts their eyes are cunning, they squint constantly. But this time we have more common interests with them than with mattresses, but to look after them all is one thing, otherwise they will drag something away again.
      5. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 5 September 2013 15: 41
        -1
        Quote: il grand casino
        It’s good if with Russia ... but you never know ...


        Well, yes ... they can just get up, then turn their backs and bend down ...
      6. Simon
        Simon 5 September 2013 17: 17
        +4
        Even with the presence of the Russian and Chinese fleets off the coast of Syria, the amers and the French will have a mantle to accept something substantial. Or maybe China and Russia conspired? And what do they have in mind? recourse
      7. Yazevdvailitri
        Yazevdvailitri 5 September 2013 23: 37
        +2
        they will measure with sweaters from Turkey .. who’s lohmache)))
      8. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 9 September 2013 12: 26
        +1
        I think the "dragon" simply declares itself as an equal, felt the strength, there will be more further ...
    2. Arberes
      Arberes 5 September 2013 12: 29
      27
      Quote: seasoned
      Really good news, it's nice that they stand shoulder to shoulder with Russia.

      Still, a couple of million volunteers would be thrown into Syria and I would sleep peacefully?
      1. its_not_fair
        its_not_fair 5 September 2013 13: 21
        36
        Quote: Arberes
        Still, a couple of million volunteers would be thrown into Syria and I would sleep peacefully?

        2 million for Syria, that's like 15 million for Russia.
        Who will feed them?
        Provide ammunition, ammunition?
        Even Russia today does not pull the 2 millionth army.
        Syria needs an asymmetric weapon.
        Load several Club-K complexes on dry cargo vessels and let them roam around the Mediterranean, transport the goods with a dash, and when the time comes, use as intended.
        One lost ship for the United States will serve as a much more convincing argument for ending the slaughter, in comparison with the loss of even 10-20 aircraft, not counting the loss of bearded meat, which in the United States no one considers.
        1. il grand casino
          il grand casino 5 September 2013 13: 30
          +4
          Quote: its_not_fair
          Download multiple Club-K complexes

          The question is where to get them superfluous.
          And in general, whoever knows they are already being produced?
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 14: 34
            +7
            Produce.
            1. Hitrovan07
              Hitrovan07 6 September 2013 09: 14
              0
              I hope that it is them our BDKs that carry to Syria.
        2. Arberes
          Arberes 5 September 2013 13: 30
          +5
          Quote: its_not_fair
          2 million for Syria, that's like 15 million for Russia.
          Who will feed them?

          So the Chinese in Syria will be puzzled by this issue?
          Who served in the army doesn’t laugh at my jokes ???
          In general, dear its_not_fair this is probably my cant. So you need to express your thoughts more clearly! You are my plus, dear! hi
          1. its_not_fair
            its_not_fair 5 September 2013 13: 39
            +7
            Quote: Arberes
            In general, its_not_fair dear, probably this is my cant. So you need to express your thoughts more clearly! You are my plus, dear!

            Thank you hi and you my chip chip respect.
            ps But no, I can’t, there are not ten comments yet. laughing
            1. Arberes
              Arberes 5 September 2013 13: 43
              +3
              Quote: its_not_fair
              But no, I can’t, there are not ten comments yet.

              Well, so bold, my friend !!! drinks
        3. Onotollah
          Onotollah 5 September 2013 14: 17
          +2
          Quote: its_not_fair
          Who will feed them?

          Yes, they will feed themselves, themselves.
          The first time on matzo with water they will get over somehow, and there it will be seen. smile
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 14: 34
            +7
            They will plant everything with rice.
            1. Denis
              Denis 5 September 2013 15: 18
              +6
              Quote: tilovaykrisa
              They will plant everything with rice.

              Ambush the Americans.
              1. tilovaykrisa
                tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 15: 28
                +5
                Rice? What a bastard you are a villain, and even with fantasy laughing
              2. smersh70
                smersh70 5 September 2013 15: 40
                +2
                Quote: Denis
                Ambush the Americans.




                but how do you know))) they asked un they ... maybe they and the Americans will drink rice vodka together ...... drinks fellow
            2. DIMAS
              DIMAS 9 September 2013 09: 54
              0
              Her real apocalypse will begin when the Chinese realize that rice is just a side dish, not the main course ....
        4. aviator_IAS
          aviator_IAS 5 September 2013 14: 26
          10
          Quote: its_not_fair
          Load several Club-K complexes on dry cargo vessels and let them roam around the Mediterranean, transport the goods with a dash, and when the time comes, use as intended.


          I liked how Putin clarified the issue with the S-300 at a press conference yesterday. They say there is nothing to worry about, the complexes are old, we have and what is newer. Delivered to delivered, but not yet delivered everything. Now let the adversaries think now what Unexpectedly, the US Air Force will find out that for example spare wheels and some sort of spare parts were missing.smile
          1. greenpeace
            greenpeace 6 September 2013 16: 34
            0
            surprise will fellow
        5. Egen
          Egen 5 September 2013 15: 44
          +2
          Quote: its_not_fair
          2 million for Syria, it’s like 15 million for Russia. Who will feed them? Supply ammunition, ammunition?

          The Chinese? request What for? :)
      2. Canep
        Canep 5 September 2013 13: 56
        +5
        Quote: Arberes
        Still, a couple of million volunteers would be thrown into Syria and I would sleep peacefully?

        The Chinese in only one Shanghai (with suburbs) can recruit more volunteers. Only I do not think that the Syrians will be happy with such military assistance.
      3. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 14: 33
        21
        Oil painting from the sea on the coast of Syria overlook a couple of millions of Chinese laughing
        1. Gato
          Gato 5 September 2013 18: 57
          +5
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          Oil painting from the sea on the coast of Syria overlook a couple of millions of Chinese laughing

          "... And they will find themselves on the shore, In scales, like the heat of grief" (C)
          Hm .. And how then to fuse them back to China? Cause they won’t leave request
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 9 September 2013 06: 06
            +1
            Quote: Gato
            "... And they will find themselves on the shore, In scales, like the heat of grief" (C)

            3 million 333 thousand 333 heroes ... Chinese.
    3. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 5 September 2013 13: 06
      +5
      Bad news for Obama. There is reason to think hard.
      1. zanoza
        zanoza 5 September 2013 13: 59
        +4
        Pleased it would be news that on the Russian and Chinese ships going to the Mediterranean Sea there are sufficient EW assets that could, as it were, "accidentally" block all the "radio jammers" and the means of active jamming of the state members and the forces that joined them.
        Otherwise, air defense systems, command and control points of the Syrian Armed Forces may "go deaf and blind", in any case, the state officials will strive for this, jamming, suppression and destruction, and this not good.
        And the naval group will only have to passively observe the reprisals against the Syrian army, and for the future to collect information about the methods of the actions of the United States, and the combat use of their weapons.
        1. aviator_IAS
          aviator_IAS 5 September 2013 20: 10
          +1
          Quote: zanoza
          I would be glad to hear that the Russian and Chinese ships going to the Mediterranean Sea have sufficient electronic warfare equipment that could, as it were, "accidentally" block all the "radio jammers" and the means of setting active jammers of the state officials and the forces that joined them.
          Otherwise, air defense systems, command and control points of the Syrian Armed Forces may "go deaf and blind," in any case, the state officials will strive for this, jamming, suppression and destruction, and this is not good.


          Can't imagine how you can "block" the jammers? Charge the air even more? winked In my opinion, jammers can only be reliably blocked by something like the X-58. smile And in conventional anti-ship missiles, a passive mode is often used, when the rocket simply goes to a source of powerful radiation (interference). It seems useless to interfere with tomahawks, because at the initial and middle section of the trajectory, an inertial system with pre-set target coordinates and a terrain map are used. If only to interfere with the radio altimeter of the "ax", but I do not know how this option is possible.
        2. egor 1712
          egor 1712 6 September 2013 02: 09
          0
          How do you know what tasks they came with?
      2. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 14: 35
        +3
        If he knew how, I would sleep peacefully.
    4. Big lexey
      Big lexey 5 September 2013 13: 36
      +4
      Well them, these accidents ... It is better to do without them.
      I wonder where is now "Severodvinsk", project 885 "Ash"? I would like to think that somewhere in the Red Sea or Indian Ocean is being "tested" ...
    5. Ev58
      Ev58 5 September 2013 13: 37
      10
      "The East is a delicate matter" is the most accurate and capacious aphorism. I recalled an episode described by an emigrant doctor who wanted to save the mother of a Chinese man. When this Chinese man turned to his mother with an offer of the help of a highly qualified doctor, she answered approximately the following: "... in all my life and the life of previous generations, not a single European entered our house ..." This woman was dying, but refused ( perhaps the only) chance to continue life. This step is undoubtedly the right one, but Russia, like any “European”, should keep an eye out for such a friendly eastern neighbor.
    6. MG42
      MG42 5 September 2013 14: 16
      +8
      Quote: seasoned
      But this is a good move on the part of China. Really good news, it's nice that they stand shoulder to shoulder with Russia.

      They will probably just stand and watch and spy at a distance, the probability of getting American ammunition in them is negligible ..
      After the incident with the embassy, ​​China made a noise, but did not declare war on anyone, and Russia did not support its protests then ..
      Yes, China is now gaining military power. It not only needs simple exercises, but also the practice of observing real hostilities since the PLA has not fought for a long time, and sooner or later it will be necessary to face the interests of the United States and its allies not only in Syria, but in
      there was a conflict with Japan for the island, the Americans sent the AUG, and they will learn how to resist it ..
      By the way, there are already two American AUGs at the moment, aircraft carriers Nimitz and Harry Truman and escort ships ..
    7. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 5 September 2013 14: 41
      +2
      Here is the news!
      Quote: seasoned
      stand with Russia shoulder to shoulder.


      Perhaps the damned occupying democrats are thinking!
    8. vezunchik
      vezunchik 5 September 2013 16: 00
      -4
      MOSCOW, September 5. / ITAR-TASS /. Russian President Vladimir Putin gave an interview to Channel One and the AP agency, in which he did not rule out that the Russian side would agree with the military operation in Syria
      Interestingly, what is the argument put forward by the amers that the GVP began to win back?
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 5 September 2013 16: 26
        10
        Quote: vezunchik
        the Russian side will agree to a military operation in Syria

        I watched the interview in person. It was said that Russia does not defend this government, and can agree to military intervention only if the UN Security Council authorizes a military action against Syria. If you remember: In the UN Security Council, 2 permanent members in the person of the PRC and the Russian Federation constantly veto resolutions on the military solution of the Syrian issue. So no fools here: they will never get the go-ahead for a military action through the Security Council. Essence: formal, controlled consent.
    9. me
      me 5 September 2013 16: 15
      -15 qualifying.
      The Chinese just want to see how Russia will merge Syria.
      1. alone
        alone 5 September 2013 16: 26
        +4
        here everything is laid out on shelves. 1 tiny moment remained unclear. Egypt then closed the Suez Canal for all warships. and now calculate what circle you need to do China to get to the shores of Syria. until they reach or Amers finish their strikes, or all disperse in peace)) hi
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 5 September 2013 17: 10
          +5
          Quote: lonely
          here everything is laid out on shelves. 1 tiny moment remained unclear. Egypt then closed the Suez Canal for all warships. and now calculate what circle you need to do China to get to the shores of Syria. until they reach or Amers finish their strikes, or all disperse in peace)) hi

          A significant amendment, the channel is closed to ships participating in the operation against Syria.
    10. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 5 September 2013 16: 26
      +2
      I don’t think that the presence of the entire Chinese fleet will stop the United States and the company. Only an event that will cause severe shock to the United States and brutally put them in their place can prevent this war.
      1. alone
        alone 5 September 2013 16: 43
        +1
        no shock. such trips are consistent. Cameras and the West have long been aware of this.
        then someone below wrote that this is a change of ships in the Gulf of Aden, which protect the ships from Somali pirates.
    11. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 5 September 2013 16: 44
      +2
      Quote: seasoned
      But this is a good move on the part of China. Really good news, it's nice that they stand shoulder to shoulder with Russia.

      In reality, this means absolutely nothing. This is really yours and ours! :) Do not console yourself with an illusion, they have an eastern worldview in politics.
      A scorpion comes up to the turtle and says, transport it to the other side of the lake, Tortila replied: You sting me, the scorpion explained for half an hour that it was impossible, because he himself would drown and the like, talked to the turtle. She agreed. Somewhere in the middle of the lake, he banged her bang into her head. She was so offended, well, he promised and stung, he’ll drown himself, and he answered: There is nothing to be done, the east is a delicate matter.
      This is to say that if the Chinese are profitable, then they will conclude an alliance with the waste, not like with the amers. Here their interests coincide with those of the United States. They need Russia only as a supplier of resources, but not as a strong country.
    12. nagual
      nagual 5 September 2013 17: 40
      +1
      Along the way, this is the 15th "anti-piracy" mission of the PLA Navy is pulling up. On August 8, they went to sea, UDC, a frigate and a supply steamer.
    13. Arthur 775
      Arthur 775 5 September 2013 18: 20
      0
      great news!!!
    14. krasin
      krasin 5 September 2013 20: 13
      +3
      The Chinese just want to test their air defense, rehearse! New ships must be tested. AND OBSERVE.
      Doo .... cancer learns from its mistakes, clever from strangers And more thoughtful people watch over both idiots. soldier
    15. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g 5 September 2013 23: 12
      +3
      This is SUPER NEWS ...

      Russia, China, Brazil, India and South Africa have agreed to create a $ 100 billion stabilization fund. The funds will be used to improve foreign exchange markets after the United States completes its quantitative stimulus policy.
      05 September 2013, 20: 28
      photo: © RIA Novosti

      The BRICS decision in the global economy was announced by Vladimir Putin during the G20 summit in St. Petersburg.

      “The initiative to create the BRICS currency reserve is at its final stage,” the Russian president said. “The volume was agreed at the level of $ 100 billion,” Putin said during the opening speech at the meeting of the BRICS leaders.

      China will invest the most in this fund - $ 41 billion. Brazil, India and Russia agreed to allocate $ 18 billion each, and $ 5 billion will come from the budget of South Africa
      http://russian.rt.com/article/15015
      1. es.d
        es.d 6 September 2013 01: 44
        0
        Quote: w.ebdo.g
        Russia, China, Brazil, India and South Africa agreed to create a $ 100 billion stabilization fund. The fund will be used to improve foreign exchange markets after the US graduates from quantitative incentive policies.


        I am not a financier, hence the naive question. Money is taken out of circulation, the Fed prints it out => are we financing the bombing of Syria?
        I repeat: the question is naive. what
        1. w.ebdo.g
          w.ebdo.g 6 September 2013 13: 59
          +1
          I am not a financier, hence the naive question. Money is taken out of circulation, the Fed prints it out => are we financing the bombing of Syria?

          Now, business partners in Russia will be able to borrow money for the construction of factories at a low interest rate, bypassing the central bank of Russia, which does not want to lend less than 18%
          At the same time, money will spin in Russia ...
          this is for short.
          1. es.d
            es.d 6 September 2013 14: 06
            +1
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            At the same time, money will spin in Russia ...

            Understood thanks!
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 15: 49
        +1
        Who understands the finances, explain what this auksnitsa sasch? At this point in time?
    16. Yazevdvailitri
      Yazevdvailitri 5 September 2013 23: 40
      0
      rather they will be reminded. on a ship they’ll love a flea market)))
    17. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 6 September 2013 06: 51
      0
      Quote: seasoned
      But this is a good move from China good Really good news, it's nice that they stand shoulder to shoulder with Russia.
      Maybe the Chinese will "remember" how NATO "accidentally" bombed their embassy in Yugoslavia and "accidentally" teach the same thing? repeat

      +100 Mom dear. I never cease to admire ... Who stands shoulder to shoulder with Russia? Well, they'll hang out there on the side - the heat, they'll smell a little fried, so we sailed past ... And then, what should they, "inadvertently" unleash, sink the aircraft carrier? Or shandarah at the embassy too? (Prolonged applause) ...
    18. RUSSIA 2013
      RUSSIA 2013 6 September 2013 07: 43
      0
      Yes, I already wrote that only together with China, Russia can easily withstand the states and theirs GAY COMPANY.
    19. artemiy
      artemiy 6 September 2013 10: 56
      0
      Well, thank God! At last!
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 15: 55
        0
        That "finally" Will we, like Sailors, cover Syria with ships?
    20. forester
      forester 7 September 2013 20: 27
      0
      the move is good and the ships are most likely rubbish. from our scrap metal. They can fall apart from their own shots. Judging by the trucks - they rust before our eyes and are sorted out on the go - new ones. So, do not flatter yourself, they still need to swim (the hand does not rise to write REACH)
  2. Samy
    Samy 5 September 2013 12: 09
    27
    It seems the party is no longer languishing ....
    1. S-200
      S-200 5 September 2013 12: 20
      +6
      Quote: Samy
      It seems the party is no longer languishing ....

      and not at all kosher, after the Chinese f ... lot was introduced wassat
    2. eplewke
      eplewke 5 September 2013 13: 47
      +1
      Speak in the Red Sea? This is already good ... And there are more of ours there !!! Where is Moscow hanging out? For a long time it would be already off the coast of Syria.!
      1. 11 black
        11 black 5 September 2013 14: 15
        +3
        Quote: eplewke
        Speak in the Red Sea? This is already good ... And there are more of ours there !!! Where is Moscow hanging out? For a long time it would be already off the coast of Syria.!

        Recently there was news - the cruiser "Moskva" canceled the trip somewhere and there and was urgently sent to the shores of Syria! yes and two more missile ships from the Black Sea Fleet went there and the Priazovye electronic reconnaissance ship good
  3. smel
    smel 5 September 2013 12: 10
    +5
    Our fleet there ... And quickly, until the Chinese have completed our tasks
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 5 September 2013 12: 19
      24
      greetings to all hi

      the name and content of the information topic, apparently we are talking about the ships of the Type 071 LPD project of the Chinese naval forces.

      http://www.military-informant.com/index.php/conflicts/3561-1.html


      1. Sandov
        Sandov 5 September 2013 12: 37
        +5
        Apollo good rollers, their power in the Mediterranean was useful.
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 5 September 2013 12: 48
        +3
        Quote: Apollon
        greetings to all

        And you too, hi ! Apollo, reect for clear info, good !
  4. komsomolets
    komsomolets 5 September 2013 12: 12
    16
    A good batch will happen, maybe something will not be remembered. It seems that the United States really wants to put in its place, well, or a hint, there will be no freebies.
  5. a52333
    a52333 5 September 2013 12: 13
    17
    Understanding is emerging. Honestly, I did not expect this move from China. I hope that the good Russian-Chinese news will come with G20.
    1. Val_y
      Val_y 5 September 2013 13: 07
      -4
      And she's not, just tea, they figured that the shed huseynovich, screwed up, their deputies lowered the blair, now finally the guppovuha with perversions was arranged for the whole office, for the aircrafts (they say you try a lot) it also faded, I also thought "clueless" in general, the shed except for the Orlandian geaktivist, the inhabitants of Israel and the Turkish Bashi, no one in the world supports (that is, a diplomatic war, with varying success, but more and more against mattress mats) and a lot of babulos invested in Syrian oil (they are afraid of sho either mattress mats or Russians, without them they will get rid of them)
  6. DMB 1995
    DMB 1995 5 September 2013 12: 16
    14
    I hope this is not a fake, because this is a sensation ...

    all the same, the movement of warships into the zone of possible databases is not a gazelle with Tajiks, such movements are monitored by intelligence agencies of all countries.
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 5 September 2013 12: 56
      12
      and why do you think the formidable president suddenly needed the advice and approval of the parliament, apparently the bar of probable losses has crept up and is already threatening to drop the owner of the performance.
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 16: 00
      0
      So what's next ... come, stand, wait ... and that's it?
  7. yustas
    yustas 5 September 2013 12: 16
    10
    Personally, my opinion is that if China is also with Ours there. Sshatovtsy will be sent to attack, it’s painful they don’t like to get hit on the teeth. Yes, and I think their gut is thin.
    1. Khokhol-MSC
      Khokhol-MSC 5 September 2013 13: 49
      +9
      It may sound pessimistic, but China will not be alarmed. Not in his style. It is more profitable for him to stand aside and get all the profits. And it’s strange that the information about the fleet is almost coming from LJ.
  8. seller trucks
    seller trucks 5 September 2013 12: 18
    +5
    According to the boarding number, it was later possible to find out that this is the Chinese universal landing ship-dock Jinggangshan, which can carry an air-cushion landing craft on board, or other large cargoes.


    it would be better if he carried one more Chinese complex, one that is analogous to C-300 or two.
    1. Arti
      Arti 5 September 2013 12: 32
      14
      apparently this is what he bears; there was information that two landing ships were needed to transport the c300 division. Maybe Russia just does not have time to deliver a sufficient number of complexes, and China has responded.

      Be that as it may, China understands that Iran will follow Syria - after which Russia will remain the only independent oil supplier - with which it will have to agree on an equal footing, and it is not a fact that the Russian Federation will be able to meet the growing needs of China. But in the Russian Federation they are not fools - they understand that it is tied to oil deliveries from the countries of the Shtatoviks - wait for supply crises and unexpected difficulties at the most difficult moment.
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 5 September 2013 12: 39
      +3
      Quote: seller trucks
      it would be better if he carried one more Chinese complex, one that is analogous to C-300 or two.

      So you answered yourself,
      Quote: seller trucks
      From the on-board number, it was later possible to find out that this is the Chinese universal landing ship dock, Jinggangshan, which can carry on board an air-cushion landing ship, or other bulky goods.
      laughing
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 5 September 2013 12: 48
        +1
        Quote: Tersky
        So you answered yourself,


        I am deeply outraged that someone ... diligently confused me with these: "can carry on board a landing craft on an air cushion" (C).
    3. aszzz888
      aszzz888 5 September 2013 12: 58
      +1
      But what the hell is not joking?
  9. Azaat
    Azaat 5 September 2013 12: 22
    +2
    Well done Chinese !!! It would be nice to remember that Russia is not the main goal and their goals are clear.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 5 September 2013 12: 41
      -25 qualifying.
      Quote: Azaat
      Well done Chinese !!!


      Th laughing Well, stand around the bush and that's it ... well, they will show that we are in this world ... noted ..... smile the truth is on the way back all the electronics they have will fail .. after all, Chinese ....... laughing
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 5 September 2013 14: 29
        +6
        They - like a wise Monkey, will watch from the tree, as two fight in the valley
        Tiger And after their mutual exhaustion, they will seize power in the Jungle.
  10. makst83
    makst83 5 September 2013 12: 22
    +9
    What we cannot, for some political reasons, China can do! I hope in the hold of the "Chinese" a present for Bashar Hafezovich, well, like HQ-9 or something else, anti-aircraft!)))
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 5 September 2013 12: 42
      -5
      Quote: makst83
      I hope in the hold of the "Chinese" a present for Bashar Hafezovich, well, like HQ-9 or something else, anti-aircraft!)))



      You do not know the Chinese well ..... they will think something before they give something. 10000 times they think .... hi
      1. sir.jonn
        sir.jonn 5 September 2013 13: 31
        +9
        Quote: smersh70
        You do not know the Chinese well ..... they will think something before they give something. 10000 times


        Any air defense system successfully worked out in combat conditions will be a sweet candy for a potential buyer, remember s-75
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 5 September 2013 14: 18
          +1
          Quote: sir.jonn
          Any air defense system successfully fulfilled


          ..but by itself! but Chinese was not used much ... Ecuador refused them ... recently there was information on this topic on the site ..... so nothing lasts forever ..... ... fellow
          1. sir.jonn
            sir.jonn 5 September 2013 15: 51
            +4
            Quote: smersh70
            but Chinese was little used


            Assad has few choices and a darn short time so "who will give what." And if HQ-9 works great, then as a bonus it rehabilitates the Chinese military-industrial complex.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 5 September 2013 15: 59
              -3
              [quote = sir.jonn] so "who will give what" [/ quote
              or maybe the Chinese will throw something to the Americans .... you have not thought about such a scenario.))))).
              1. sir.jonn
                sir.jonn 5 September 2013 19: 04
                +1
                Quote: smersh70
                or maybe the Chinese will throw something to the Americans .... you did not think about such a scenario

                China is not a brother or matchmaker of Russia, but it was not observed in the foreign policy vector of throwing, as for example in Europe.
            2. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 5 September 2013 17: 14
              +1
              Quote: sir.jonn
              And if HQ-9 works fine, then how does the bonus rehabilitate the Chinese defense industry.

              Is it possible. BUT! for obvious reasons, the service will only be Chinese. (secrecy, little time for mastering by the Syrians, untrained calculation will compromise the complex).
              1. sir.jonn
                sir.jonn 5 September 2013 19: 17
                0
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                Is it possible. BUT! for obvious reasons, the service will only be Chinese.

                The methods of Soviet military assistance are familiar to them, and I don’t think that they will be afraid to throw their trained calculations into the heat.
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 5 September 2013 12: 42
      +8
      Quote: makst83
      I hope in the hold of the "Chinese" a present for Bashar Hafezovich, well, like HQ-9 or something else, anti-aircraft!)))


      HQ-9 anti-aircraft missile system (export name FD-2000)
      Base: Surface ship, Car chassis
      Control system: Radar seeker
      Warhead: High-explosive fragmentation Use: Anti-aircraft
      Country: China Range: 200 km.
      Year of development: 1998
      The HQ-9 long-range anti-aircraft missile system (HongQi-9, Hongqi-9, Krasnoe Znamya-9, FD-2000) is designed to destroy enemy aircraft, cruise missiles and helicopters at all altitudes of their combat use, day and night in all weather conditions. The HQ-9 is the most advanced example of the third generation of China's anti-aircraft missile systems and is characterized by high combat effectiveness in a difficult jamming environment, incl. with the massive use of various air attack weapons by the enemy. The HQ-9 is the first Chinese missile system capable of intercepting surface-to-surface tactical ballistic missiles.

      HQ-9 was developed by the Academy of Defense Technology of China, part of the CASIC Corporation (China Aerospace Science & Industry Corporation). The development of early prototypes of the HQ-9 complex began at the beginning of the 80 of the last century and continued with varying success until the middle of the 90. In 1993, China purchased a batch of Russian S-300PMU-1 air defense systems. Technical solutions and design features of this complex were largely borrowed by Chinese experts during further work on the HQ-9.
    3. Memorandum
      Memorandum 5 September 2013 15: 29
      +1
      It is possible that the contracts for the supply of air defense systems (there are many Chinese in Syria too) include clauses on target designation ... so they are running to execute ...
  11. leopard
    leopard 5 September 2013 12: 24
    +6
    left Iran to tighten its boats ..
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 5 September 2013 14: 32
      +4
      ... and even then the "Nimitz" with the mob will surely give dyoru?
  12. Cormorants
    Cormorants 5 September 2013 12: 25
    +7
    So it turned around. This is very good news. Damn how interesting how this will end, of course I do not think that war is on a large-scale level, but still it is already taking an interesting turn.
  13. Waroc
    Waroc 5 September 2013 12: 31
    22
    If it’s true, then of course it’s not bad ... But the Chinese are unlikely to get involved if something happens - they will simply observe, evaluate, estimate, so to speak, who is capable of looking at it. Their time has not come yet.
    But ours, too, will not directly go into a storm: we all understand that otherwise there would be a direct clash with the USA, that is, a war ... We will at best help Syria with intelligence, possibly target designation (if there is purpose for what purpose give out), and, possibly, creating and interfering with the state equipment. Well, from the realm of fiction, we can inflict a couple of blows on the positions of militants (such as at the request of the official government of a friendly state in terms of combating terrorism - it’s kind of not against the Americans - it may well go through).

    It seems to me that if the mess begins, it will be something like this.
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 5 September 2013 12: 36
      24
      "While the two tigers are fighting, the wise monkey sits and watches." I think China's position will be exactly like this
      1. VasDA
        VasDA 5 September 2013 14: 18
        +2
        Here it is difficult to disagree. At one time there was a phrase "Russian and Chinese are brothers forever!" ... And then Damansky ... Nooo ... Our neighbors are not so simple ...
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 16: 20
        0
        Could watch without sending a ship!
    2. DEfindER
      DEfindER 5 September 2013 13: 24
      +4
      Quote: Waroc
      At best, we will help Syria with intelligence, possibly target designation (if it is for what purpose to give this target), and, possibly, the creation and interfering of staffing techniques

      Since the world community (at least the peoples of all countries) is against this war, we, on behalf of this world community, have every right to prevent the aggressor by at least staging interference and withdrawing tomahawks and missiles from Syria without getting into an open confrontation!
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 September 2013 17: 29
      +1
      Quote: Waroc
      At best, we will help Syria with intelligence, possibly target designation (if it is for what purpose this target designation will be issued), and, possibly, the creation and interfering of state equipment.

      The control center issues to the firing complex the station control center and the air defense of the air defense system, or conjugate air defense systems of the same type. (С-300 PMU - they can carry out target allocation at one station, if necessary, give the command and control center of their division). Our ship firing radars cannot do this. The maximum that is possible is to give out the parameters of the target’s movement, if there are VZOI - in the machine along the radar line. Everything. But they will use the sbd radio channel, as it seems to me. IMHO.
      Targeting will not work (an act of aggression), and noise is ineffective for support.
  14. Pule
    Pule 5 September 2013 12: 34
    +4
    Until September 9, Obama has something to think about and talk with anyone on the G20 ..
    And the Chinese, as always, quiet glanders ... and up to the G20 ...
  15. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 5 September 2013 12: 35
    +8
    Quote: seasoned
    that stand with Russia shoulder to shoulder.

    Rather, they cover each other's back! hi good
  16. shark
    shark 5 September 2013 12: 40
    +6
    Really sensation. If the Chinese go there to help, then China and Russia decided to really show their teeth. But it was alarming that "the authors openly admit that the ships will not participate in any way in a potential conflict, but only observe the actions of NATO ships and Russia. " that is, they go cleanly to see ..
    1. alexng
      alexng 5 September 2013 13: 26
      15
      How to say. It all comes down to spoiling the nerves of the aggressor, and maybe health too. It is one thing to announce something so that there is no premature noise and quite another in real life. Who will fully open the cards.
      But I am more reassured by the fact that both Putin and Assad are absolutely calm. So something is in store, which could fundamentally change the situation not in favor of the hired aggressor in the person of America paid for by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Yes! Something has changed in the World if the VSA has become a mercenary among sheikhs. Shredded America.
    2. d1m1drol
      d1m1drol 5 September 2013 13: 28
      +4
      so right, no one will say that they are going to give lyuli to the Americans ...
    3. Docent1984
      Docent1984 5 September 2013 14: 11
      +2
      Well, officially we are also not going there so far to help. The Chinese, of course, are cunningly *** horrified, but let's hope that now they are not playing a double game.
      1. Shkodnick
        Shkodnick 5 September 2013 22: 51
        +1
        The mattresses are playing a game that is economically profitable for themselves - they found sponsors (for shelling Syria) ... If they can change power, Syria will become a transit point for oil and gas to Europe, which will aggravate Russia's position in exporting energy resources to Europe, hitting the budget. .All pack of bearded men trample on the Caucasus to realize their dreams.
  17. Stiletto
    Stiletto 5 September 2013 12: 40
    36
    Well, now, all the more wonderful and wonderful, this good news, now it will be, as in a glorious joke:

    A herd of wild boars runs through the forest.
    Suddenly a drunken hare comes out of the bushes and says:
    - Fat, stand.
    Wild boars stop in shock.
    Hare:
    - Fat, is there a problem?
    Boars shake their heads, no they say.
    Hare:
    - Fat - quiver!
    Boars dump.
    The next day, everything repeats. Wild boars are dead, they went to the wolf complaining, and the next day a herd of wild boars runs through the forest with the wolf.
    Suddenly, again, the hare comes out and says:
    - Fat, stand.
    Boars stop.
    Hare:
    - Fat, is there a problem?
    Wolf:
    “I am your problem.”
    The hare goes into the bushes, leaves from there with a drunken bear and says:
    - Fat - quiver, the problem remains!
    1. Yura
      Yura 5 September 2013 13: 02
      +5
      Quote: Stiletto
      - Lard - with ** it was, the problem remains!

      To the place of the joke, to the vein.
      1. Stiletto
        Stiletto 5 September 2013 13: 22
        +4
        The Chinese also came up to see who had lost this fear in the Middle East, ignored the decisions of the UN Security Council, wanted to play the world gendarme, shoot at a sovereign state ... All of the above is true if there are two conditions:

        1. If China came to us "to strengthen", and not on its own, to lead with a sting, to "monitor" something new, interesting for itself;
        2. If it's not a duck. I would like to look at the list and performance characteristics of Chinese ships.
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 5 September 2013 13: 56
      0
      !!!!!!!!!!!! ++++++++++++++ good
  18. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    NOBODY EXCEPT US 5 September 2013 12: 42
    18
    Wise by a thousand years of experience, the wise Chinese leadership will not be on any side, it will see if Russia is as strong as they say, by observing one can see the strengths as well as the weaknesses of the alleged opponents, although they are against political attacks against Syria. Therefore, I do not understand the euphoria of those present here ....
    1. Quiet
      Quiet 5 September 2013 13: 47
      0
      Wise by a thousand years of experience, the wise Chinese leadership will not be on any side

      The cunning and wise TIGER will watch from the cliff and wait for the end of the fight .... And then he will jump and destroy the weakened winner ??? As a result, HE will remain the WINNER !!! ???
    2. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 5 September 2013 13: 54
      +5
      Quote: NOBODY BUT US
      Wise by a thousand years of experience, the wise Chinese leadership will not be on any side, it will see if Russia is as strong as they say, by observing one can see the strengths as well as the weaknesses of the alleged opponents, although they are against political attacks against Syria. Therefore, I do not understand the euphoria of those present here ....


      In general, this is so, but the fact that the Chinese went there - says a lot. They are tired of enduring that shit-gunners are not penniless. In addition to the veto in the UN Security Council, there were also statements by the Foreign Ministry.
      Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said Monday that the PRC is very concerned about the possibility of any unilateral military action against Syria, Reuters reports. September 2.09.2013, XNUMX

      "Very concerned" - can be translated from the diplomatic language as - We strongly advise you to refrain from unilateral military action against Syria.
      Of course, China will not take active steps in the Mediterranean Sea, but the presence of the US Navy will make the US Navy very nervous. The scare will not even be the strength of the fleet but the power of the economy. Only D&T will spoil relations with China now. Amer with a blow to the embassy in Belgrade (7.05.1999/4,5/28) as a loan. On occasion, they will remember it. Very much then the Chinese were offended. The United States paid families of the victims $ 2009 million and $ XNUMX million in compensation for the destroyed building. But at the same time, by accident, CIA Colonel William Bennett (was recognized responsible for the slip) was killed by unknown persons in the park in XNUMX.
      China wants to be present off the coast of Syria not for Syria or Russia (do not flatter yourself) but out of its geopolitical interests. Obama nervously smokes a whole pack.
  19. Rus2012
    Rus2012 5 September 2013 12: 42
    +5
    Recall that, according to a number of sources in Syria, there may be Chinese analogues of C-300 systems.

    According to some reports, China delivered radar complexes and "something else" to Syria, but they preferred not to talk about this ...
    Source - interview of Marat Musin, military commissar from Syria
  20. holding
    holding 5 September 2013 12: 49
    +2
    The news is definitely good. Let's wait and see what it would be.
  21. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 5 September 2013 12: 49
    +5
    Hmm, all of a sudden! With a passive position of China, with the exception of a veto in the UN Security Council, honestly, the move was slightly struck! This is an effective moment! We are waiting for the development of events, as it is clear to the naked eye - China is very interested in creating the Russian-Chinese currency, and this is adding a counterweight to the usa region!
  22. USNik
    USNik 5 September 2013 12: 51
    10
    How well everything is going, Putin rode a skating rink on the "chemists", the Jews got rid of the garbage, Ban Ki-moon remembered where he was from, China brought a couple of boats and all this right on the eve of the summit ... bully
  23. theadenter
    theadenter 5 September 2013 12: 53
    +4
    If China brings its fleet to help, the United States will not be easy. Two serious players are already a reason to crap. wassat
  24. Zubr
    Zubr 5 September 2013 12: 53
    +5
    And according to the latest information, our cruiser Moscow and Varyag went there. I hope Samum and Bora will also be part of the squadron. The main thing is that the nerves do not burst from anyone and a general dump begins. And the fact that China is going there is already encouraging ... we are not alone, right against two AUGs. All the same, they turned on the radar in Armavir on time. There would be another of our 949A submarines for a full compress.
    1. kote
      kote 5 September 2013 16: 13
      +1
      The Russian Navy grouping, even reinforced with a 949a project, can not do anything with a real naval battle against 2 AUGs.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 September 2013 18: 00
      +2
      Quote: Zubr
      I hope Samum and Bora will also be part of the squadron.

      I believe that they will not enter: autonomy and seaworthiness are not enough. They will remain at the Black Sea Fleet to plug the Bosphorus.
  25. sashka
    sashka 5 September 2013 12: 53
    +8
    How interesting it becomes .. Now it is not clear who "surrounded" whom and it is understandable why the Amers suddenly had a point and the Geyropa too ..
  26. yan
    yan 5 September 2013 12: 57
    +4
    The situation is "and then the forester came ...."
  27. aszzz888
    aszzz888 5 September 2013 13: 01
    +3
    No wonder the joint exercises of the Navy were carried out. You look and in fact they’ll run around their actions better!
    Yes, and perhaps something Syria whisper during the aggression.
  28. Duelist
    Duelist 5 September 2013 13: 03
    +5
    Have you noticed? China does not have such a verbose approach, no special statements, and so here - hello! We are here! Guess for yourself if the United Nations sideways side - then the policy that will execute - right! The weapon!
    The situation is certainly bad, but perhaps the States will understand that they are not masters on this planet, and there are forces that can give in the teeth!
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 14: 56
      +3
      They don’t understand, at least for now.
  29. buywol
    buywol 5 September 2013 13: 13
    +3
    It’s just that China decided when it was time to start showing its muscles to both Russia and the USA. And the fact that one ship goes to the coast of Syria does not mean that tomorrow there will be a whole squadron.
  30. Constantine
    Constantine 5 September 2013 13: 14
    +5
    The fact that this is good is correctly noted, however, the Indian fleet is not enough in the region, at least to help with reconnaissance request Or does India think it won’t hurt them?
  31. left-wing
    left-wing 5 September 2013 13: 16
    +3
    I hope our and the Chinese fleet there will be NATO aggressors like a bone in the throat. And they will click on the launch button of cruise missiles with caution ...
  32. White
    White 5 September 2013 13: 22
    +9
    Stalemate situation. Obama can not retreat his republican with eaten offal - supposedly caved in under Russia. Putin is obliged to act, to prove that Russia is a great power, and if not now, then there will be no more space left. Well, Kitaytsi just look to evaluate future rivals.
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 5 September 2013 15: 25
      +5
      Most likely, there will be no swara. And there will be a Great Standing on the Ugra River, in other words, off the Syrian shores. And there is a reason for spending orders on huts by that time.
      1. dzvero
        dzvero 5 September 2013 16: 03
        +3
        God forbid that only standing cost!
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    2. Quiet
      Quiet 5 September 2013 18: 33
      +2
      And why only - 16 ??? Go ahead !!!
  34. svoboda1970
    svoboda1970 5 September 2013 13: 27
    +4
    on Vkontakte social network, citing a confidential source, information appeared that the Chinese ship of the Jinggangshan project was seen while passing the Red Sea towards the Suez Canal.


    "VKontakte" is a branch of the SVR and the GRU ... bully
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 5 September 2013 13: 32
      +1
      Yeah ... MASSAD is not asleep ... these are their official informants)))
      1. svoboda1970
        svoboda1970 5 September 2013 13: 39
        0
        Probably not only them ... wink
    2. d1m1drol
      d1m1drol 5 September 2013 13: 35
      +2
      Therefore, they did not close it because of anti-piracy law laughing
  35. donavi49
    donavi49 5 September 2013 13: 31
    +2
    We are talking about the 15 anti-piracy squad, which went to Aden on 8 on August, it was to replace the 14 squad with the Qingdao destroyer, frigate and supply vessel.

    Here is the video of sending the 15 detachment, the flagship of the DKVD type 071 with the 999 w / n (newest) - by the way, the first PLA warship, on which they serve women, a frigate of type 054A with w / n 572 "Hengshui" put into operation last summer (armed with SAM Shtil / Buk / s BK 32 missiles in vertical installations, 8 anti-ship missiles of the C-803 type / heavily revised Exocet /, torpedoes, 4 universal RBU, 30 mm MZA, 100 mm AU and a helicopter).

  36. Voskepar
    Voskepar 5 September 2013 13: 32
    +4
    Someone explain why both Russia and China send there mostly landing ships?
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        2. smersh70
          smersh70 5 September 2013 22: 56
          -3
          Quote: Voskepar
          I asked the military experts, not the shepherds.



          when grazing such ignoramus sheep ... it's nice to be a shepherd hi
    2. 1c-inform-city
      1c-inform-city 5 September 2013 14: 00
      +4
      I think in view of the possible evacuation of citizens.
    3. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 5 September 2013 14: 14
      +5
      Quote: Voskepar
      Someone explain why both Russia and China send there mostly landing ships?


      Firstly, you can bring a lot of things, and no one will stop and not inspect. Therefore, then our BDK and dangle in Syria and vice versa.

      And secondly - the best way to mass evacuate refugees.
      1. Voskepar
        Voskepar 5 September 2013 14: 29
        +2
        And how do you like the theory that our people are brought there besides weapons and military specialists for Syrian air defense?
        I don’t know if it’s true or not, but yesterday, a comrade, lieutenant colonel, said that there were enough of our specialists there.
    4. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 14: 58
      +3
      In the holds you can bring a lot of interesting things, and in case of extreme need and pick up someone interesting.
  37. Sirs
    Sirs 5 September 2013 13: 37
    +7
    Well, at least one other country along with Russia was not mad at the sight of Syrian blood as scavengers. And he wants to comply with all the decencies of international law and not to allow the destruction of Syria.
    1. Voskepar
      Voskepar 5 September 2013 14: 32
      12
      There is one more such country: Iran.
      This is who helps and will help the Syrians with living force.
  38. Fastblast
    Fastblast 5 September 2013 13: 39
    +2
    I hope this situation is + in favor of Syria.

    Briefly about the naval power of China

    Chinese naval forces consist of 3 operational fleets: South, East and North. They include more 700 units of surface / submarine ships:
    - 60 units of diesel-electric submarines (NNS);
    - 8 units of nuclear submarines (PLAT);
    - 5 nuclear missile submarine units (SSBN);
    - 28 units of destroyers with missile weapons (URO);
    - 52 units of various types of frigates;
    - 22 units of sea minesweepers;
    - 84 units of landing ships;
    - 83 units of rocket boats;
    - 77 units of patrol boats;
    - 1 unit DVK (landing-helicopter ship);
    - 2 Marine Brigade (10 thousands of people);
    - 55 units of bombers;
    - 132 units of assault and fighter aircraft;
    - 65 units of transport;
    - 15 reconnaissance aircraft units;
    - 3 unit refueling aircraft;
    - 95 helicopter units.


    ps I wonder what else from this list may appear off the coast of Syria !? winked
  39. serzhserzh86
    serzhserzh86 5 September 2013 13: 45
    +1
    It seems to me that Moscow and the Varangian would have looked nice not between the grouping of American ships and Syria, but behind the Lamerican ships ... so to speak, looking into the back of their head ... the Chinese can also be put near. in such an environment, the Americans will not even dare to speak loudly)))
  40. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 5 September 2013 13: 47
    +4
    Without an escort - clean transport. Unload and roll off.
    The maximum will stand somewhere on the sidelines, look.
  41. Sharingan
    Sharingan 5 September 2013 13: 53
    +2
    War is a way of deception. For whom the Chinese are fucking in case of a general mess is not yet known.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 September 2013 18: 15
      +2
      Quote: Sharingan
      For whom the Chinese are fucking in case of a general mess is not yet known.

      That is, you do not trust statements of the highest state leadership of the country? The actions of representatives of China in the Security Council - too? Maybe we are not friends, but the realization that the enemy we have in common is forcing the Russian Federation and China to act in one line.
  42. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 5 September 2013 13: 54
    +5
    Finally, Comrade Xi realized that Iranian oil would soon end for the Middle Kingdom. And China's African interests may be at stake
  43. Koronik
    Koronik 5 September 2013 14: 05
    0
    Wonderful technique, delighted! But why don’t we, either they steal less, or don’t steal at all. It’s too early to write to the allies, not the nation that will do something to someone.
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 5 September 2013 18: 18
      +2
      And where is it not stolen? There is such an oriental wisdom - "There is no such ruler whose property would not be at least a little plundered by his entourage."
  44. SIBIR38RUS
    SIBIR38RUS 5 September 2013 14: 09
    -4
    Quote: Fastblast
    Briefly about the naval power of China

    Chinese naval forces consist of 3 operational fleets: South, East and North. They include more 700 units of surface / submarine ships:
    - 60 units of diesel-electric submarines (NNS);
    - 8 units of nuclear submarines (PLAT);
    - 5 nuclear missile submarine units (SSBN);
    - 28 units of destroyers with missile weapons (URO);
    - 52 units of various types of frigates;
    - 22 units of sea minesweepers;
    - 84 units of landing ships;
    - 83 units of rocket boats;
    - 77 units of patrol boats;
    - 1 unit DVK (landing-helicopter ship);
    - 2 Marine Brigade (10 thousands of people);
    - 55 units of bombers;
    - 132 units of assault and fighter aircraft;
    - 65 units of transport;
    - 15 reconnaissance aircraft units;
    - 3 unit refueling aircraft;
    - 95 helicopter units.

    The number is scary, but there is a truth! she soothes .. This bee swarm of floating boxes is only a quantity and no more! In general terms, they use obsolete Soviet weapons, our Russia has completely different technologies and plans for the future. Let our Chinese neighbors indulge with Soviet toys :) There are no threats .. The war will certainly be between the three powers Russia-China-United States, a matter of time, who has enough forces and resources to raise it before the war ...
    1. Fastblast
      Fastblast 5 September 2013 14: 19
      +2
      there is truth in your words.
      I fear only for one thing, no matter how it starts, the war ahead of time.
      The time for our countries is not quite right ...
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 14: 59
        +6
        There is no suitable time for wars.
        1. Fastblast
          Fastblast 5 September 2013 16: 32
          0
          so be it, but you should always be ready for it
  45. Kowalsky
    Kowalsky 5 September 2013 14: 13
    -4
    Quote: Stiletto
    Well, now, all the more wonderful and wonderful, this good news, now it will be, as in a glorious joke:

    But in reality, a wild boar takes a bear in a minute ... As if all this Chinese-Russian friendship turns out to be a zilch. The American "boars" will simply ignore the flexing of their muscles and calmly finish off Syria, while Russia and China will stand aside. Although the appearance of the Chinese there is alarming, it seems they are hinting to the Americans that the jokes are over. But, I repeat, this will not save Syria, unfortunately.
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 5 September 2013 14: 57
      +7
      Judging by the flag, you have already been shocked! Well, of course, the boar is not a comrade to the bear, but our bear with a spear is such a comrade that it drags the wild boar straight to their favorite place, right into the anus! ", or whine somewhere to the side.
  46. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 14: 28
    +7
    Somehow everything is spinning seriously, in one place, and the United States and the British and the Frogs and the Turks, Ours have come now and the Kitaioz are pulling themselves up, one inadvertently launched rocket and the Megabum can start.
    1. es.d
      es.d 6 September 2013 02: 21
      0
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      Somehow everything is spinning seriously, in one place, and the United States and the British and the Frogs and the Turks, Ours have come now and the Kitaioz are pulling themselves up, one inadvertently launched rocket and the Megabum can start.


      Two rockets were already there. It is also alarming that the fellow Britons neatly stepped aside. They always stood behind their backs (historically), above the battle.
    2. Hitrovan07
      Hitrovan07 6 September 2013 09: 20
      +1
      It is interesting - but the Turks could simply "close the straits" for our corbals, because Turkey is in NATO. But this is not - interesting. smile
  47. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 5 September 2013 14: 42
    +7
    The porridge is brewed seriously: it seems that if something happens, they will get everything in full, it will not seem to anyone! I think the Chinese ships are going to Syria not for a walk, but with quite specific tasks. I would not be surprised if they appear off the coast of Syria and God forbid, They won't think for a long time so that at least some crap will fall next to them. They have not yet forgotten the "mistake" during the bombing of Belgrade: that was the embassy, ​​and then the warships will bounce off, do not hesitate! And about the dependence of the Chinese industry on the West- it’s still my grandmother said in two: it’s not known who depends on whom more. If they transferred their production to China, it doesn’t mean anything, but China is ahead of the rest of the world in the export of rare earth elements! And they are also at a level in the production of microchips. if there are Chinese chips in amerovskih "axes" - another question is where they will fly (considering the presence of Chinese ships) !!!
  48. Stiletto
    Stiletto 5 September 2013 14: 45
    +9
    Quote: tilovaykrisa
    Kitayoz pull up, one inadvertently launched rocket and Megabum may begin


    Barabum! This is what happens when a "peacemaker" does not have a "multi-passport" laughing
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 15: 03
      +6
      Plus, I haven’t laughed like that for a long time.
      And by the way, in this film, the president is also black, and he fired rockets at the black ball, a similar analogy is obtained.
      1. Stiletto
        Stiletto 5 September 2013 15: 13
        +3
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        Plus, I haven’t laughed like that for a long time. And by the way, in this film the president is also black and he fired rockets at the black ball there, a kind of analogy is obtained.


        I agree, colleague. So the mandashavans are already fragile to save the world pulled laughing
  49. andru_007
    andru_007 5 September 2013 14: 50
    +2
    Quote: Quiet
    In short !!! Russia will start and they will support !!! China has no other choice !!!! And then "rushed n" "yes over the bumps" !!!

    The Chinese are not as simple as they seem. I doubt that they will harness themselves if that (after all, as far as I know, in the entire history of China they have no combat experience at sea) ..
    But they can push Russia to more active actions, with visible support. Yes, and they can agree with the Americans and can merge beautifully (while China has not given clear statements on Syria, perhaps there is a bargain). While the movement of the ships of the Navy of China poses a certain question, but still inspires a certain optimism!
  50. gansik
    gansik 5 September 2013 14: 55
    +3
    Let's face it. Flywheel-unwound, money-paid, Congress-approved. Scenario Libya and Iraq. Then there was a mess in the country, a civil war and numerous terrorist attacks. God forbid, if I'm wrong, we'll see in a month.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 16: 56
      0
      God grant that it would not be so!