How I see Russia ready for war (Part of 4)

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Part of 4. Not the last car in the Urals

I can imagine what a torrent of words will cause the continuation of my article. More than sure that some readers on this site have already mentally “buried” me. I have no doubt that someone, rubbing his hands, called me a coward. Well, is it so, bourgeois citizens? ..

At once I will make a reservation that for the people who wrote positive reviews, the 1-th paragraph in general does not apply to any side. You, who are not afraid to intervene for the author, writing such “uncomfortable for the ears” things, as always, thank you with an earthly bow.

However, not just angry, but, I would say, poisonous abuse with saliva swearing after the part describing my vision of labor relations, there was so much that I decided to devote more time and printed signs to the answer to it.

First of all, I would like to cite a couple of sentences from a book about an outstanding German fighter pilot, Erich Hartmann. To reject possible accusations of sympathy for the Nazis, I’ll emphasize that as an enemy of my homeland I hate him, but I bow to his skill, 352 of victory is not a joke. For comparison, our Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub - 64 victory.

So, the words from the book:
- Healthy criticism helps to work. But the senseless vicious swearing does not cause any other feelings, except disgusting regret.
How accurate! What is called "the apple." I am all of you, sprinkling poisonous saliva, to the depths of my soul pity. Yes, what makes you think that I need your mansions in the Mediterranean, yachts and “Bentley”, stupid in conditions of Moscow “traffic jams”? I understand that with your short little bit, directed exclusively towards profit, it is even impossible to assume that there are still people living in the name of other values ​​?! Finally, what makes you think I'm a beggar. Yes, the one whose lines you are reading now is much freer than you. His head does not hurt about "throwing partners", the need for timely delivery of financial statements, borrowed money that you have to give. Among other things, being a “free artist”, I don’t have to execute stupid and “corporate rules” that are mostly inappropriate to the legislation of even the current bourgeois government. I am happier than you a hundred times, try to believe.


As far as I remember your feedback, the one who wrote about the “throwing partners” and called me “milk sucker” wondered what, after such an “unbearably heavy” share of the Russian bourgeois, to give someone some of his money in the form of a New Year award. I answer a question with a question: who ever said that this money is YOUR money? - Do they to a lesser extent belong to the one who worked for you and earned an increase in New Year's gifts to kids?

As for the complaints of the bourgeoisie about the "hard" life, besides sincere laughter she could not arouse anything in me. We know your "difficulties" - you can not change the car once a year, right? Or the fifth floor of a country house still can not finish? - Yes, I am exaggerating, but I do it intentionally, so that they understand if it is hard for you, your workers are ten times harder. And if initially they are not sure that they will be able to pay people on time and with dignity (DECENTLY, and not “on average in the market”), then don’t undertake to create business. Or create, but without wage workers.

In other words, many of the “difficulties” of the bourgeoisie he himself creates. Example. One of my friends works for an individual entrepreneur who has several shops (3 or 4 already, I do not remember). So, the owner of these stores NEVER borrow money for development. He had the initial means - he opened 1 with his shop, earned money for opening 2 - he opened, and so on, but only for what he ALREADY earned. If I'm not mistaken, I waited several years to get the 3 point. And nothing, and New Year's premium diligent sellers pay to find an opportunity. The worst thing that threatens him is a ruin "to zero", but even in this case, nothing will have to be given to anyone.

Another very common reproach in your feedback was the complete conviction that if you raise wages, then immediately and prices will jump. Have you, who wrote this, ever read it carefully? Remember:

- Making the salary increase, observing the labor legislation to the letter (in this sense, labor law should become even more important than criminal or tax law), at the same time compelling not to raise the price of the products!
- This is from the previous part.

Of course, if you follow the salaries only, and the prices continue to be let into “free flight”, then the depreciation of money (according to your “inflation”) will become eternal and monstrous. Therefore, of course, prices must be curbed. How? - And all the same ...

Draw yourself a picture. Simplified. A certain owner of a chain of stores, among others, was ordered to raise wages, among other things. For this, his profits were checked in advance and found out how much he pays, and how much he could. He did this (did, did, did not want the consequences, which I will describe further in this part of the article). But the next day, the shoppers who came to the store were unpleasantly surprised by twice or even three times the prices. Some of them appealed to the consumer rights protection service (by the way, I also propose to hand it over to the subordination of the state security Commissariat). And after an hour or two, people in uniform or in civilian clothes, but with IDs, come to the owner's home (or where he is), and ask:

- By what right are you, brute, prices raised? After all, before you were ordered to raise salaries, the state considered everything. You and your family that a million rubles a month (well, purely for example, maybe 300-400 thousand) is not enough, life is bad ?! Do you want to know what is really a bad thing? ..


Our bourgeois in confusion, maybe he soaked his pants already, shouting:

- Do not ruin, fathers family (or something like that)!

To him in response:

“Okay, we are not fiends, return the former appraisals, but in the order of punishment you will post an announcement that everyone who has bought your goods today may come with a check and return the money, leaving the goods for themselves.”

I hope it turned out intelligibly ...

I will answer also to the person who wrote that the proposed by me is “non-socialism”. To be honest, after the following reviews, I’m ready to agree already. But if you destroy private property immediately and all (I don’t even talk about strategic industries, they can only belong to the state, that is, to the people), this is where the economy can really collapse. Therefore, I believe that partly - to return to the state, but partly - to leave in private hands, while “playfulness” of these pens to temper. Well, and of course, it’s stupid and harmful to ban the same shoe shops or tailoring workshops.

Someone else artel mentioned. Mention something mentioned, but completely forgotten that the artel is a collective property, the total, therefore, of all the workers in it, and not the sole. So, do not confuse the constitution with prostitution ...

I agree with those who called my article "theory". Yes, so far this is only the desired, and not valid, but YET! And when building a house, probably, you first draw a plan, or not?

In this first half of the introductory will be considered successfully completed, we went further. As promised, let's talk about the fate of the simple human happiness that is stubbornly unwilling to ordinary people.

Cheap labor and who it will be.

Alas, not even in a fair state of labor with decent wages and decent conditions. Yes, and cheap labor, which with a pickaxe and shovel will be engaged in the "zero cycle" of production in the undeveloped expanses of Siberia, the country also needs.

Who will go in freight cars to work out their guilt and build happiness for those whom they oppressed before?

First of all, the inhabitants of all sorts of “rublundy”, which would be inappropriate to be left free. For those who do not know, I will inform you that in our country even now there is a CRIMINAL liability for non-payment of wages (Art. 145.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation). That's just the most severe punishment provided by the second part of it (this is when you did not pay anything at all) - 3 year imprisonment. Weak, is not it?

Why not to translate a gross violation of labor legislation into a criminal offense? And it is not at all necessary that this could be a non-payment (or delay) of wages. More precisely, the refusal to give a person honestly earned, condemning him to poverty or crime - is at the height of blatant arrogance, for such 15 years “it’s not a pity”. And there are fewer sins: refusal to provide timely leave, recruitment to work on weekends and holidays without the employee’s consent and paying overtime to him, trying to dismiss a pregnant employee not to pay a “decree”, just trying to illegally dismiss a person because actually did not commit, the notorious "fines" for "not so stood up", "not so sat down", "he told the wrong leader" ... the list of actions will pull to the page. To the desire to do such things have disappeared, does not prevent "those who wish" to prescribe "treatment by labor for the good of society" to the east of the Urals.

Again, justice here is probably very accelerated. Do not forget that it is not always correcting to pay for the volumes that were cited on him, but he also needs to pay for the contents in the camp, food, and clothing.

Maybe one of the readers will now think whether it is not too stern to equate the greedy bourgeois to a thief or a murderer. No, just right! Not to pay a person a salary is, in your opinion, not stealing from his pocket? And the creation of intolerable exhausting conditions (without days off and passing) - at least, causing grievous bodily harm, and even slow killing.

At the same time, I have no doubt that they will be among those convicted of labor crimes and those who, in addition to the first, managed to accomplish ordinary (including economic) crimes.

And for the “fullness of sensations” I suggest that the ranks of rich men sent for correction to replenish with thugs from the North Caucasus, fishing with “jihad” and selling Russian people into slavery. Let yourself feel what they were doing.

Needless to say that the first two types of prisoners will be used in the most difficult, harmful, and sometimes simply overworked jobs. Mines, digging of channels, peat development, laying of tunnels - everything for them. I propose to solve the task of organizing their residence simply in the best Stalinist traditions - the party of prisoners who arrived first builds camp barracks on a plot of land fenced with barbed wire. You can use the abandoned residents of the settlements, at the same time restoring them. Who knows, suddenly, over time, you will need more? Hastily built camps - a good opportunity to escape? - I agree, but let us remember how this problem was solved in the time of Joseph Vissarionovich. And just sent to places where nature itself became the watchman.

We’ll add “illegal migrants” to the army of prisoners being formed. And what happens, they lived with us, although we did not invite them, worked for a penny, thereby lowering the level of salaries in the country, and now they will take them home at our expense ?! “No, let them work their way home.” In short, then: women and children in common wagons we immediately send to historical homeland, but let their husbands and fathers work the road for themselves and for their families.

It is clear that the same Kyrgyz and Tajiks (of course, provided that, apart from illegal border crossing, there is nothing more behind them, and this is worth checking) you can be sent to labor camps for a period of only one and a half to 3 years. They didn’t come to work for us from a better life, they don’t have much evil. But Russia is not the eternal "mother Teresa"! Spoil us life, answer!

It is wise to use prisoners from among illegal immigrants in another kind of work. In contrast to the first two groups of “personalities,” these too harsh punishments did not deserve. Many of them worked on construction sites. So let them build in the camps. Only not in Moscow or other major cities. They could well be sent to the construction of settlements for the Russians, which we will then invite from the same Tajikistan or Kyrgyzstan. Today, there is no support for compatriots from the former Soviet republics, but here they will immediately be offered free housing. And those who illegally enjoyed the hospitality of Russia will build this housing. In my opinion, fair.

For clarity, again an example. 2-3 Thousands of Asians are being thrown into the taiga (maybe even into an abandoned village) in late spring. The task is to build housing before the winter. If they are built, they should definitely survive the winter in their own houses. Guess why? - That's right, to check the quality. If they survive in such a way that nothing will be defrosted in the village, will not flow and will not fall apart, then the early release and the general carriage in the direction of the sultry south. Flow, collapse, fail - restore, dear ones. So that our Russian compatriots whom you did not give life to in Central Asia, at least at home (or apartments) in a new place, immediately received, suitable for life.

But it is senseless to build one housing, enterprises are needed near settlements. Well, their construction of uninvited guests can also be puzzled. It is clear that the Kirgiz nuclear power station, which is not capable of connecting two words in Russian, will not build, and why not a small factory (or the same farm in the countryside).

The presence of prisoners in the army of the country will solve another problem - it will give many new jobs. After all, someone will need to protect them, heal, manage their work. Can you imagine what a good opportunity to become camps for unemployed young people from a bent province? Especially if at the place of work (or service) of the same security guard or a foreman, or a foreman, or a medical worker, they will provide free housing.

Today, many young people from provincial towns and villages go to torture happiness in major cities, where they forget about the profession they have received, live by taking a corner. And here is the opportunity! - Of course, in Moscow more fun than in the Siberian countryside, but if the salary offered in Siberia is two times higher, just for isolation from the outside world? Well, and not forever ... As they say, stand up, and Moscow will not run away anywhere.
On this cheerful note, I conclude another part of the article, next time I will share ideas about agriculture and, possibly, education.
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  1. avd
    avd
    +8
    5 September 2013 14: 28
    First, about what I strongly disagree with, sorry:
    First.
    And what do you want to plant all-not-transplant?
    Have you still not learned that slave labor is much less effective than voluntary ("free labor of free people")? Or is it also a bourgeois invention?
    The second one. About the comers.
    By and large, it is a pity for them - not because of a good life, they came thousands of kilometers, families pull here and, often, half their salary, give them to the "employer" (from housing and communal services, for example). Don't plant them.

    But those who built such a system and cultivates it, feeding corruption by far not small sums ("five old women - ruble" - remember the anecdote) - it would be nice to plant them. But the "planter" did not grow on them. They themselves will "put" whoever they want.

    Three years for non-payment of salaries? - No, not small.
    Let it be one year. But, in order to be guaranteed, without the ability to evade, pay off, conditionally serve time. And cameras without cell-internet-masseuses. Normal cameras - barracks - zones, as for everyone. With no exceptions.
    And in a year he’ll return - what will remain of his business? And how will he return? I mean, the jail colleagues won't do anything bad with him? Stupidly out of envy and class hatred of the bourgeois.
    But this, alas, is also from the realm of fantasy, like your entire text.

    But, as it seems to me, the inevitability of punishment (for all misconduct) is noticeably more effective than the terms of 10-15-25 years for a five-minute delay in work. Remember it happened? Or, too, the slanderers invented?

    Slave labor is ineffective, it can be said a medical fact.

    As well as that, by the way, that allowing the free sale of weapons to the population approximately threefold reduces the crime rate in the country. And, I will note without a "splash" - like it is necessary that the violent shoot first.
    1. +4
      5 September 2013 18: 57
      All that you have said has no foundation. Let's say you express the opinion of a certain circle of people, perhaps you yourself are from this circle. It is bad that this circle does not perceive the opinions of others or simply does not perceive others. The article can be accepted as one of the possible options for the distribution of human and other resources and the understanding that today's bacchanalia cannot exist for a long time or should not exist more correctly.
    2. +1
      5 September 2013 19: 19
      author fan of Heydrich R. wants to create another "final solution to such a question" ?!
    3. Crocodile
      +4
      5 September 2013 21: 14
      In general, another utopia! In order to ask, judge and imprison people who cannot be bribed are needed, which nowadays in our country is simply - UNREALY! Unfortunately, more than one generation has grown up for which the word Motherland is an empty phrase, and the main goal in life is not to work, but to "get a job" and receive a salary and, if possible, "presents" from visitors. The country and the people currently have no goal! Society is disunited and mostly embittered!
      1. Yazevdvailitri
        +1
        5 September 2013 23: 01
        let this anger go to the right place
    4. Uhe
      Uhe
      +1
      5 September 2013 21: 24
      Is slave labor ineffective? And in the USA, work is considered differently. In them, prisoners are the most important part of the economy, in this sector billions, if not trillions, of dollars are spinning - private prisons. What's the GULAG? Sons compared to what is happening in the USA. By the way, I advise you to familiarize yourself with the topic. Here it is, "democracy" :)

      In Russia, slave labor is actually virtually legalized; for this, millions of migrant workers are imported into the country, the lion's share of the salary of which goes into the pocket of officials who are hilling them. And this is among other ways of earning money from migrants. Well, all the changes of recent years in labor legislation confidently turns all citizens of Russia into slaves. I'm not talking about the fact that capitalism is generally slavery, only in other ways, which is why slaves all over the world work for the masters. I don’t even know if the country was left without slaves, as it was in the USSR, when people worked for themselves and for their society.

      So the work of slaves is effective if everything is properly organized. For me personally, slavery is disgusting, so I do not agree with an article in this area. Scientific and technological progress allows people to work less and less, retire earlier, or, if they wish, and to their satisfaction, work even until their death, because everyone can do the work. Why is it not so now, namely slave labor? Yes, because the profit from labor of billions is appropriated by a handful of several thousand richest people and families. The most amazing thing is that the generic names of these families are known to all: Baruchs, Rothschilds, Rockefellers. The rest of the richest people on the planet are below them and have their wealth exactly as much as fit into the system built by these families. And the USA is just a cog in this mechanism of global control and the money pyramid, in which money goes up in a matter of hands.

      Spiders weaved a web. Everything that interferes with them is destroyed, as they destroyed the USSR, that is, the only country capable of fighting this evil.
  2. +11
    5 September 2013 16: 16
    Hmm ..... To the author:
    The world is much more complicated than it seems, the world is much simpler than you think .........
    1. Mature naturalist
      +1
      5 September 2013 23: 34
      next time I will share ideas about agriculture and, possibly, education.

      Author, don’t! Enough of what you have already shared.
      "If you have a fountain, shut it up. Give the fountain a rest."
      (c) Kozma Rodov.
  3. vladsolo56
    +10
    5 September 2013 16: 23
    The author is of course a dreamer, and even assuming that everything that is written is correct, and so what? we all understand that this is just a fantasy and no more. We have well-known economists who have thought through in detail the real plans for withdrawing the country from the pit. But even no one listens to them, and is not going to listen. Although I’ll put a plus only for that person’s soul hurts for the country, and he thinks what to do. Many of those who do not give a damn about everything except their beloved.
    1. +5
      5 September 2013 18: 02
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Author of course dreamer
      - a little like fantasy. The delirium of a drunk mare. For example, the author of the Sabzh proposes to preserve private property, and therefore the market, and in this market:
      - By what right are you, cattle, raising prices ?! After all, before the government ordered you to increase your salaries, the state calculated everything. Are you and your family missing a million rubles a month (well, purely for example, maybe 300-400 thousand), you live poorly ?! Do you want to know what REALLY IS HUDO? ..


      Our bourgeois in confusion, maybe he soaked his pants already, shouting:

      - Do not ruin, fathers family (or something like that)!

      To him in response:

      “Okay, we are not fiends, return the former appraisals, but in the order of punishment you will post an announcement that everyone who has bought your goods today may come with a check and return the money, leaving the goods for themselves.”

      I hope it turned out intelligibly ...

      First, in market conditions, prices are held only by the growth of supply, and supply increases either in connection with the expansion of production or with an increase in labor productivity. An increase in wages without a corresponding increase in productivity is guaranteed to lead to an increase in prices, which the author proposes to stop administratively like this. Yes, he removed the goods from the shelves, well, there is none, what now, for this in jail? From under the floor, through third parties, he will sell at "normal" (that is to say, those that suit him) prices, these third parties will go to jail, and these are mostly reckless youth hungry from student conditions - our future, which will rattle about in your camps. Have passed already, how long can you step on the same rake? Rake all teaches something and the heart believes in miracles - this is about the author of SABZH. I generally keep quiet about the Tajiks. Before entering the camps, you must first be banned from entering on pain of criminal penalty. Moved in - get a camp and work out the exit. At least this way, but as the author suggests - due to the lack of desire to clean up after themselves, the Russians used ZSAMI to bring in the janitors, and now they are in the camps. RAVE. Even with a touch of chauvinism and xenophobia. And all this is still thickly mixed with sharply negative emotions in relation to their own compatriots.
      The only thing I would agree with is a sharp increase in sanctions for violations of labor laws. True, I note here that these violations are mainly committed by middle managers of large companies - heads of groups, departments, departments. The owners of corporations have nothing to do with it. It turns out that these bosses will go to jail, yesterday's hard workers, who are not even owners. Therefore, I would supplement the author of the Sabbath here - in any case, the owner will have to bear responsibility for the facts of violation of labor legislation, then he will constantly influence his tops and middle managers.
  4. Jogan-xnumx
    +2
    5 September 2013 16: 23
    And who will do all this? Based on what? On whose initiative? Famous question: who are the judges? Hand washes a hand, you know, and a raven a crow ...
  5. +1
    5 September 2013 16: 31
    Eh, the author, I see you are attracted to the personality of I.V. Stalin and his methods, you are aware that he is not a person who came from the side and everything turned around with him, and the product is an ideological substantiated system, which is not in your opuses, you slip into particulars, it's like building to erect walls without laying a foundation. Author, do not write such articles at all.
  6. +9
    5 September 2013 16: 54
    Good day to all!

    The author of the article (or rather the series) is a plus from me. Yes, I agree with the comments. vladsolo56 RU Today, 16:23 and avd RU Today, 14:28, that the author is still young, has not yet gained life experience (that is, fate with his width on the corner of the table did not attach tightly).

    In this plan You dear forum users are right. But let me draw attention to the very content of his articles. In addition to his analysis, conclusions aboutn allows himself to OFFER and solutions! Let it not be formalized in his "complete draft" with paragraphs and subparagraphs, but there is a desire to bring his opinion. Well, the fact that he is not afraid to expose him to everyone is a big plus.

    On the other hand, many of the author’s suggestions would have been MORE WORKED if he had proposed something by him himself. PASSED HIMSELF! ... Then more important details would have appeared.smile
    In addition, if the author not only expresses his thoughts but also tries to correct them taking into account comments from members of the forum, in my quality the value of his articles will only improve.

    In a word, dear author Vladimir Glybin (real name or literary pseudonym?), I wish you heartily success! good
    1. +3
      5 September 2013 19: 47
      Quote: michajlo
      On the other hand, many of the author’s suggestions would have been MORE WORKED if he had proposed something by him himself. I WILL PASS FOR YOURSELF! ... Then more important details would have appeared

      I support !!! The author would have served a couple of years, would have missed, so to speak,through myself this topic, and then you can listen to: whom, for what and how much to plant.laughing
  7. 0
    5 September 2013 16: 58
    I did not evaluate the next volume "What am I ...". I would put a minus again, but I grew up from the high assessment by the respected author of my "under-socialism" wink
    Although the degradation is obvious. If earlier some ideas could be called sound, now everything is completely bad. Camps, MGB, Stolypin cars ... You can’t enter the same river twice.
    It's time to tie this graphomania and childish spontaneity ...
    1. +1
      5 September 2013 20: 01
      Quote: matRoss
      It's time to tie this graphomania and childish spontaneity ...

      Perhaps I will take these words back. Got excited. More precisely, they related only to the methods proposed by the author for the implementation of their ideas. In itself, the dream of a fair society is close to me, as probably most. And people trying to articulate their vision of ways to achieve this dream are pretty.
      Quote: matRoss
      I did not evaluate the next volume "What am I ...".

      I put it all the same plus. Why, see above
  8. +8
    5 September 2013 17: 13
    And I envy the author .... I envy white envy. He BELIEVES, but I no longer. I - I KNOW that everything will be completely different than the author, and I would also like to. Everything will be completely different ....
  9. AlexP47
    +12
    5 September 2013 17: 18
    Asian migrant workers should be gradually deported back to their homeland. In the current prospect of a global clash with the Islamic world, the presence in the country of millions of unaccounted-for people with an alien mentality to us becomes EXTREMELY dangerous.
  10. +2
    5 September 2013 17: 27
    And I’ll never drive anything. What war should be prepared for, according to the author? With whom? As history shows, Russia has never been ready for war, no matter how hard it tried. But this did not stop her from winning. Although, if you recall the Crimean and Russian-Japanese wars, it’s not always, unfortunately.
  11. +2
    5 September 2013 17: 28
    Well written about salaries and compliance with labor laws, but what about negligent workers? The Constitutional Court ruled that in order to establish a state of intoxication at the workplace, a voluntary desire of the employee is necessary. And the court said that the state of intoxication is not a reason for dismissal. (if I'm wrong correct)
    And did the author try to fire at least once a poorly working, but knowledgeable worker? But he takes a place and receives the salary of a good employee and the work is not done, and the price of production is growing.
    If the responsibility of employers is strengthened, then the responsibility of workers is also. (How in the days of Stalin was late for 5 minutes get fives. Wicked joke.)
  12. +8
    5 September 2013 17: 29
    Vesnukhin's fantasies ... Utopia, pure water. Employee guarantees? No problem! What about the duties of the employee himself? Everybody reads the "Rights" section very well and just a little - go straight to the Inspectorate, the prosecutor's office or somewhere else. Maybe we will introduce an article for unfair work, a deliberately released marriage? For the balance of power in society. There is no need to invent anything, everything is already there. It remains only to show will and exert strength for the efficiency of laws. And so you can transplant half of the country.
  13. soldier's grandson
    0
    5 September 2013 18: 04
    when they attack, then we will find out what is there to break our brains.
  14. +7
    5 September 2013 18: 08
    but if the salary offered in Siberia is two times higher


    If so, then the country's economy will fly into the pipe. In Moscow, salaries are unfounded, the rest of Russia only dreamed of such incomes. But how is this possible? Yes, because Moscow lives off the rest of the country.
    1. +2
      5 September 2013 21: 27
      Whose salaries and income do you mean in Moscow? Gazprom managers? And about Moscow prices in the know?
  15. +5
    5 September 2013 18: 08
    Or maybe everyone should just look at themselves first? Does he act correctly in everything in relation to others, to his city, country, to nature, finally? How conscientiously we carry out our duties, and as citizens as well? And then, as you sit down in the minibus in the morning, you will surely run into some orator who knows exactly who is to blame for everything, and what needs to be done with all this. And he gets out at the bus stop, a pack of empty cigarettes - under his feet, those who interfere - pushed, swore and went his own way. And how many complainants have to listen to who complain that they work for "three kopecks" and hate those who have succeeded in business. However, suggest that such a person try to organize at least some kind of his own business, and even participate with others in the creation of something, as a rule, no one will tear his ass off. Because it’s less stressful to sit and complain about life to everyone. And you don't have to take responsibility.
  16. +2
    5 September 2013 18: 20
    The border to the LOCK, the key in your pocket. Camps should be removed from conservation.
  17. +1
    5 September 2013 18: 22
    Stop fooling around. The United States needs the disarmament of the Russian Federation. As long as we have nuclear weapons, we are a country.
  18. +6
    5 September 2013 18: 23
    Something along this line is written by Maxim Kalashnikov (V. Kucherenko) in the book: "The Superman speaks Russian." Not East or West, we are North. The history of Russia, from which the periphery of the West is made. In Russia, the one who forced her to rise from her knees was always considered the worst leader. The formula of today's power is to take away from everyone and divide among their own. It was not Russia that lost the Cold War, but its leaders went over to the side of the enemy. If the Russian elite does not feel a hard stick over them, they steal. Without a strong "tsar" there can be no power of the people in Russia, but only and always the destructive power of the aristocracy. The morality of state policy is not in talking about "universal human values", but in its conformity with the national and state interests of the country.
  19. Fedych
    +2
    5 September 2013 18: 31
    And how do you see her preparing and building a new and so-called fair world? Are you a war veteran of the deep rear? What Russia can offer the world, still voluntarily creeping under the rules of the game of the USA and nothing more. Jews, freemasons, the United States - you and you patriots, who are miserable from their humps, what prevents us from calling, awakening and educating Russians and Russians - you are our pitriot! - or are you one of those eternal dancers who are always disturbed by some piers? but onlysmile
  20. +4
    5 September 2013 18: 33
    I am very surprised at some statements: can you name at least one oligarch who has earned billions honestly, or you, as Rybkin, known to everyone, when asked about where he got mansions in the center of Moscow, replied that it was my mother who bought it (for the salary of a cleaning woman). you and I continue to steal without paying salaries on time, unreasonably raise prices for everything and everyone. And you almost let a tear go about the poor bourgeois. It is correctly spoken in the article: to punish and very severely, put in real barracks for real terms with all the convicts. I experienced (tried to conduct an honest business) all the charms spent by this scum, gobbled up my business and did not even frown. And there is nothing to act as a lawyer for these ..., the thief should be in prison.
  21. +2
    5 September 2013 18: 34
    Quote: Russian
    Without a strong "tsar" there can be no power of the people in Russia

    The people should have this:
    Devotion, love for the motherland.
    Conscientious work for the benefit of society: who does not work, he does not eat.
    Everyone cares about preserving and multiplying the public domain.
    High consciousness of public duty, intolerance to violations of public interests.
    Collectivism and comradely mutual assistance: each for all, all for one.
    Humane relations and mutual respect between people: a person is a friend, friend and brother.
    Honesty and truthfulness, moral purity, simplicity and modesty in public and private life.
    Mutual respect in the family, concern for the upbringing of children.
    Intolerance to injustice, parasitism, dishonesty, careerism, money-grubbing.
    Friendship and brotherhood of all peoples, intolerance of national and racial hostility.
    Intolerance towards the enemies of the cause of peace and freedom of peoples.
    Fraternal solidarity with the working people of all countries, with all peoples.

    to whom this is familiar, I just slightly corrected the text :-)
    1. Fedych
      +1
      5 September 2013 19: 00
      Did you yourself at least make some of this on your respective social ladder, stage, achievement and deed? - or in the hassle of your thoughts and on a mattress rotten from lying and idleness, you can write out the appeals of your pathetic inert spirit, you patriot .
  22. 0
    5 September 2013 19: 12
    Quote: Fedych
    you can only write out appeals

    you see, this is also a matter, and an important, correctly formulated appeal, especially if it is based on the humanistic idea, it’s like a pebble from a mountain, a formulated idea, acceptable to many, will begin to win the minds and continue to live its own life, the idea of ​​mastering the masses becomes a Goal, ready set in motion the masses, the appearance of a leader gives an impetus to the process of changing society on the way to the goal
  23. +1
    5 September 2013 19: 15
    I absolutely agree with the author. The thief should be in prison.
  24. optimist
    +2
    5 September 2013 19: 15
    It seems like a serious site, people write about serious things, and here is this graphomaniac-dreamer. Reading this nonsense, I remember the Soviet film "The Marriage of Balzaminov", where the hero Vitsin loved to dream everything. It does not even occur to the author that everything in life once was, you just need to study history and other sciences well. Studying the history of the civil war, one is amazed at how cruel our ancestors were to each other. But if you think about it, there was a certain meaning in this cruelty towards the "capitalist exploiters". A man who grabbed "bad money, like a heroin addict: it is practically impossible to" tie "it. It is impossible, as you know, to be a little pregnant: the verdict to socialism and the USSR was signed at the very moment when the first private official pie shop appeared. For those same owners of the first" pirozhkovy "now they are ruining the country. Only a FULL BAN ON PRIVATE LAND AND MEANS OF PRODUCTION is the only salvation from collapse. Nobody wondered why under socialism there was practically no theft and bribery? however), and because the "extra" property was already a sentence. And it was not in vain that the idomasons restored capitalism in Russia: they knew perfectly well that the Russians themselves would forebear each other. , then he will not slaughter the sheep. ”Balsaminov, - he is Balsaminov !!! laughing
    1. +1
      6 September 2013 07: 41
      Quote: optimist
      FULL PROHIBITION FOR PRIVATE LAND AND PRODUCTION FACILITIES

      - to some extent, private property is permissible. Compare the economy of the PRC before allowing private ownership and the economy of the PRC after allowing it. It’s all about the dose - the shortage is harmful, the bust is poison. In the PRC, it is forbidden to own property in strategic sectors, in the military industry, in large-scale construction, and in the banking (generally in the financial sphere) sphere. And all these shops, hairdressers, the production of consumer goods and toys - but for God's sake. The right dose is the thing in the hat. In our country of extremes - if we love, so to the gums, if we hate, so we hate so, that hoo hoo! - it is very difficult to keep the dose, but still it is possible.
      Quote: optimist
      No one thought why there was practically no theft and bribery under socialism? Not because everyone was honest and correct (people are sinful, however), but because the "extra" property was already a sentence

      - It was precisely the state people who were not bribe-takers - the OBKHSS punished the bribe-takers in state positions especially strongly. It was believed that the bribe-taker spoils the name of the state and the Party, and therefore they were significantly added for this. And outside the party and outside the government offices, bribery was enough, theft was enough. "Nesuny" - this beautiful word has now practically disappeared from circulation. And what did it mean, in the course? Do not excessively "paint in the pink" of the USSR, keep objectivity. As for the surplus property, it’s great that people are being weaned in the West from “surplus” property with the help of market methods. Now they are intensively developing leasing - something like "renting". You have your own car. Breakdown - you run around the service station yourself. The tax is annual. Annual technical inspection. etc. And at the same time on every corner there are parking lots with cars for rent, and very cheaply. After a while, you will count and come to the conclusion - why do you need your car? This is how it is all over the property.
      In short, it is much more efficient to create conditions so that people would NOT want to own excess property than to create conditions so that people would be very profitable to have this property, but at the same time administratively forbid him to own these properties. It is clumsily said, but understand what I wanted to say. And how to do this is another question, and it cannot be discussed within the framework of the post.
  25. +2
    5 September 2013 19: 17
    Quote: optimist
    No one wondered why under socialism there was virtually no theft and bribery?

    That you got excited :-)
  26. +2
    5 September 2013 19: 19
    At the expense of using illegal immigrants at construction sites, etc. I completely agree with the author. Roads, canals, and what would the contractors - state. companies, so that the entire budget is in sight.
  27. +1
    5 September 2013 19: 23
    ... but I bow to his skill, 352 victories are not a joke. For comparison, our Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub has 64 victories ...
    I read and did not read further - everything is clear. On the all-metal Messer against plywood-paper-fabric biplanes, this is cool, this is the greatest skill !!! And as I understand it, most of the planes he shot down are not fighters but bombers and attack aircraft!
    1. Cat
      +4
      5 September 2013 20: 06
      Quote: Homo
      On the all-metal Messer against plywood-paper-fabric biplanes

      The author retells one fable (it is not clear why), and you - another. Hartmann began his career in the fall of 1942, the first shot down was the Il-2, which can hardly be called "plywood-paper-fabric". And he really "specialized" in attack aircraft and bombers.
      But the secret of his record account is in the accounting system for shot down and jackal tactics. Well, on this occasion, so many keyboards have been erased; there are a lot of articles on this in VO.
      1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        0
        5 September 2013 23: 30
        You are right, dear IL-2, it was a "flying tank", but I don’t know for sure about the accounting system, but considering that at the beginning of the war we had about 10 thousand aircraft and in the first two years of the war the air regiments were renewed per year three squads each, then, in principle, it is not surprising that he made so much, these figures were shown on the first channel before Victory Day two years ago, there we had a quantitative advantage in all types of weapons, the whole question was in its quality and of course the experience of the war at that time the Germans were higher ...
  28. +2
    5 September 2013 19: 27
    "... Alas, even in a just state, not everyone deserves work with decent wages and decent conditions. And the country also needs cheap labor, which with a pick and a shovel will be engaged in the" zero cycle "of production in the undeveloped expanses of Siberia."
    In a just state, there was a desire for mechanization and automation of production, this was certainly not implemented everywhere, but the course was like this and it was correct, because this is the development of society, its liberation from heavy routine labor, and cheap labor with a pick and shovel is a regression, and artificial, put into practice so to speak by "business sharks", the margin turns out to be large, so they practice
  29. +1
    5 September 2013 19: 47
    Eric Hartman 352 victory - this is not a joke. For comparison, our Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub - 64 wins

    Our pilots did not do postscripts. There is nothing to bow here, you need to read all the sources.
  30. Special Forces of Russia
    +1
    5 September 2013 19: 59
    I completely agree with the author !!!
  31. +2
    5 September 2013 20: 00
    Well, who we will appoint as the authoritarian dictator, and most importantly, what special services he will rely on. The current ones are clearly not doing that, they are guarding the money, but they are lucky to share it.
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  33. +2
    5 September 2013 20: 08
    after reading a couple of paragraphs there was a replica -
    "Oh, what did the site turn into?"
    There is something to compare because I have been a visitor to this site for several years, although I have only recently despaired of registering. I could not pass by a couple of statements that day, and leave contagious stupidity unanswered.
    Now there is a big request to the forum administration-
    "in the future, such nonsense as it seems to me this article should not be put on public display"
  34. +1
    5 September 2013 20: 19
    The article put a plus, although I do not agree with some points. It’s wrong to strangle small and medium-sized businesses, but oligophrenic snickering (this is not a typo, that's what I call these thieves, who profit from the Great Decay), it’s necessary to put in place. Either you work for the country, or here you have a ticket for the Moscow-London flight - and aufiderzeen am About the Asiopians, I agree 100%! For ... are they already all!
    And in general, democracy for the Russian state is the same as arsenic for the rat. The ancient Greeks themselves proclaimed democracy, but no more than 10-15 percent were allowed to real power, because they understood what would happen if the crowd was given power. But dictatorship is not a panacea either. And since before meritocracy, as before Pluto, in my opinion, the best option for Russia is a military-technocratic autocracy.
  35. 0
    5 September 2013 20: 20
    As for the complaints of the bourgeoisie about the “hard” life, except for sincere laughter, it could not cause me anything

    APPTOR created at least something in life? !!!!
  36. akreworpa
    +1
    5 September 2013 20: 46
    If I read the first article of this "comrade" more or less, then the rest are just nonsense. The latter generally looks like insanity. And all of you on the site are really discussing the nonsense of a person who belongs in a psychiatric hospital or in the dock, like the new Hitler.
  37. +2
    5 September 2013 20: 50
    the author obviously had a smoke, I just want to say exhale the beaver exhale ... with whom he was going to fight, I still did not understand. The Russian economy needs the good old State Planning Committee, to legitimize and make transparent kickbacks - so that a significant part of them goes to the budget and not to the pockets of bureaucrats, and the death penalty for "not purposeful use" of budget funds and that's it.
  38. +1
    5 September 2013 21: 01
    In many directions in the article I agree, but on top - amateurishly. Sorry.
    A little advice to the author - read Oleg Matveychev.
    And for courage and, in general, a certain creativity, plus slapped.
  39. +2
    5 September 2013 21: 02
    > First of all, I would like to cite a couple of sentences from the book about the outstanding German fighter pilot Erich Hartmann. In order to discard possible accusations of sympathies with the Nazis, I will emphasize that as an enemy of my Motherland, I hate him, but I bow before his skill, 352 victories are not a joke. For comparison, our Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub has 64 victories.

    German pilots appropriated their downed planes even if they only hooked them in battle. Soviet pilots were assigned only if evidence was provided.

    Also in the tactics of warfare, Soviet and German fighters were radically different, namely, German fighters played the role of exclusively fighters, while the Soviet role was dominated by escort, defense, etc.

    I'm not even talking about the fact that the German "aces", including Erich Hartmann, avoided dangerous battles. In general, in reality, the German has much less, and the Russian has much more shot down planes, and if not, then if he had used the tactics of the Germans, it would have been many times more, although I do not think that this would have brought the victory of our people closer.
  40. IGS
    +2
    5 September 2013 21: 06
    All this has already happened in our country, someone recalls those times with delight, someone with curses. I will not talk about it. Everything has its positive and negative sides. But ... I see an article suggesting going back to the past. On the path of regression. Remember what happened to Islam, and after all, at one time it was the most progressive religion, Islam welcomed the development of science when the Inquisition was "working" in full force in Europe. But there were zealots of the past and the true ... you know the result. Yes, progress is a dangerous thing and has many development paths, including negative ones (an example of tolerance in Europe), and according to the author, computers should be thrown out (they will interfere with effective control) and return to calculators, and computers are not only porn sites on the Internet (I exaggerate of course ). We need to bring to mind what is good already now (the same inevitability of punishment), otherwise we cannot fold a paper airplane, but we are already taking up the jet, this is how I will get to the construction site of the national economy, giving my wife 500 rubles, not 1000 as she asked (housewife, and I, as the head of the house, cut her salary). Then introduce the new, using the lessons of the past, rather than trying to insert the past "as is" into the future. Damn, when you understand that the past "as it was" cannot be returned, read the same Stalin, political economy, (I will not say anything about Lenin and Marx)! THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION PERFORMED A GIANT JUMP. So for anger I put +, for a dystopian story, too, "+", but as for a serious, thoughtful article ... it is not here. The person did not even bother to leaf through the works of those whose experience and developments he wants to use. It's just a PR of one person, by the way, the same Stalin, whose experience, basically, the author wants to revive, attached great importance to material rewards and considered forced labor ineffective, according to his instructions, even during the war, soldiers received monetary rewards for the destroyed enemy equipment.
  41. +3
    5 September 2013 21: 22
    How quickly the lessons of the banned political economy erode. Otherwise, the author would know if there is such a law. Norms of profit. He is the law of competition. Do not jump, do not crawl under it. Your personal rate of profit has fallen below your average socio-economic space, this cannot be hidden, you will be reached: competitors, creditors, suppliers, buyers and your native state. There is still no question of losses, they are ahead. The income on the invested ruble simply decreased. And the capital has already run where it is higher, and the vultures will not miss their.
  42. soldier's grandson
    -2
    5 September 2013 22: 49
    in our war, pilots received a Hero after 10 sorties
    1. +3
      5 September 2013 23: 03
      where did you read that? !!!!!!!!!! belay
      1. soldier's grandson
        0
        6 September 2013 08: 32
        in the magazine military equipment article about il2
        1. +1
          6 September 2013 08: 50
          Well, I don’t know, given that 150 or more sorties took place, and no one had 15 hero stars, either you misunderstood or there was an error in the text
  43. +1
    5 September 2013 23: 06
    Russia is ready for war. But, my dear, let's first crush in our country future policemen and elders, such as Shenderovich, bulk, Trinity, Ganapol, etc. Well, you understand, the component part of Moscow’s radio echo. That's where enemies of the country have settled in. One I don’t understand, can’t I really cut out these scum that slander my homeland-Russia during the night ??
  44. Victor9M
    -2
    5 September 2013 23: 19
    As in the previous parts I wrote, I agree with all the words.
  45. +2
    5 September 2013 23: 55
    Vladimir, my respect! You write what we need to do. And I would like to hear how to do this?
    For example, we have such a character as Serdyukov, or Vasilyeva. Write step by step how
    to bring these people to justice? Or how to remove Popovkin, Pogosyan from his place?
    You are now working on the fifth part of your article, most likely. So inform us
    your opinion, HOW, and the most interesting - WHO can solve this urgent issue? And then already
    you can take on the stalls (if you have enough strength). Respectfully!
  46. +1
    6 September 2013 00: 30
    Of course, in Moscow it is more fun than in the Siberian village, but if the salary offered in Siberia is two times higher, just for isolation from the outside world?

    aPtor, can you explain what exactly is the separation?
    1. 0
      6 September 2013 12: 08
      Interestingly, the author himself will come from? It seems that he has little idea of ​​the life of ordinary Muscovites.
  47. 0
    6 September 2013 00: 33
    The presence of an army of prisoners in the country will solve another problem - it will give many new jobs. After all, someone will need to protect them, treat, manage their work. Can you imagine what a good opportunity camps for unemployed youth from a bending province would be?
    and you’re not afraid to be on the other side of the thorn, Revolutions usually devour their parents ?!
    next time I will share ideas about agriculture and, possibly, education.
    extremely curious
    1. 0
      6 September 2013 02: 30
      ... And then Ostap suffered ...
  48. Drosselmeyer
    +2
    6 September 2013 02: 19
    Sorry, but rare nonsense. The author at least once needs to do his own business and then understand something about this.
    The recipe for the recovery of Russia-Ukraine is simple - a complete change of the so-called elites (this is how people in power now like to call themselves). The change should be made in a way (I will not say so as not to fall into the section of extremism, but this theory contains the concept of "extrajudicial executions").
  49. 0
    6 September 2013 07: 53
    Are you and your family missing a million rubles a month (well, purely as an example, maybe 300-400 thousand), you live poorly?

    Damn, I want my family to have 300-400 thousand, well, at least 100. recourse

    What are you mister author fell into a small business? Do you know how many small businesses closed this year?
    By and large, every employee (worker, peasant, entrepreneur) must live on those funds that EARNED. Well, if you haven’t earned (a worker or an entrepreneur) you are using these funds, from what means will you have a decent salary? Will the state help? Well, the latter will select. Here, no laws will help (in the sense of pressure on raising salaries).
    A change in the financial and economic system and the delineation of areas of activity for business and state enterprises will help. There should not be a large private business. Scientific pricing. In the service sector, prices should be an order of magnitude lower than in the sphere of production of material assets. (Example: now some pop singing girl cuts loot more than the person who created all the conditions for her mouth to open).
    The money supply of rubles should not depend on the dollar fund, but only on the produced and consumed material values. (The task of the Central Bank)
  50. Zero fact
    +1
    6 September 2013 07: 56
    Fundamental changes in society are possible under the condition of a significant change in public consciousness. In the meantime, talking about the change of elites and the image of economic relations is ridiculous. I will say to myself and others - 60% will steal and oppress, just give free rein. And in their opinion, this will be fair - because it is they who steal and oppress. And dreaming as an author can be even more interesting and bold).
  51. +4
    6 September 2013 08: 15
    Interesting nonsense... For some reason the author cites crazy stories about Hartmann with his 352 “shot down”, which immediately eliminates the desire to read further. I forced myself, read to the episode with the store owner, spat and couldn’t read any further. It seems that the author himself is one of those who like to sit still and moan about how bad he feels and how they are doing their business around them. I myself would try to move around, and not sit at the keyboard on a salary. hi
  52. andruha70
    0
    6 September 2013 08: 21
    - Healthy criticism helps to work. But the senseless vicious swearing does not cause any other feelings, except disgusting regret.
    How accurate! What is called "the apple." I am all of you, sprinkling poisonous saliva, to the depths of my soul pity. Yes, what makes you think that I need your mansions in the Mediterranean, yachts and “Bentley”, stupid in conditions of Moscow “traffic jams”? I understand that with your short little bit, directed exclusively towards profit, it is even impossible to assume that there are still people living in the name of other values ​​?! Finally, what makes you think I'm a beggar. Yes, the one whose lines you are reading now is much freer than you. His head does not hurt about "throwing partners", the need for timely delivery of financial statements, borrowed money that you have to give. Among other things, being a “free artist”, I don’t have to execute stupid and “corporate rules” that are mostly inappropriate to the legislation of even the current bourgeois government. I am happier than you a hundred times, try to believe.
    are these words from a book about a German fighter pilot? belay
    but I bow to his skill, 352 victories are not a joke.
    you can, of course, stupidly bow down fool , or you can surf various aviation forums, where smart guys have long ago chewed over who, how, why and how they counted their victories... as for everything else, this is a utopia, yes, in some places desirable, but in this historical period of time -Utopia. request
  53. +1
    6 September 2013 08: 30
    Quote: andruha70
    you can, of course, stupidly bow down

    Under Comrade Stalin, whom the author likes so much, this was called servility to the West and cosmopolitanism and was punishable by being sent to places not so remote, which the author so wants to revive :-) A funny situation, isn’t it? :-)
    1. andruha70
      0
      6 September 2013 13: 57
      Under Comrade Stalin, whom the author likes so much, this was called servility to the West and cosmopolitanism and was punishable by being sent to places not so distant
      speak the truth, comrade. wink Isn't it time to revive this action? called himself a milk mushroom...(prove that 352 victories tongue )get into the back...(I couldn’t, let’s cut down the forest in Siberia laughing )
  54. avd
    avd
    0
    6 September 2013 14: 38
    Quote: optimist
    The verdict on socialism and the USSR was signed precisely at the moment when the first private official pie shop appeared.


    That is, during the life of Ilyich the First? Bullshit.
    After the NEP, this is how Vissarionich tightened the screws.
    They washed over the country...later, planting corn, and calling it "boobs and tits."
    And Mikhal Sergeich only recorded the fact. Through your own shame. And thanks to him at least for not starting a civil war. Then, the collapse of the country and the army was brought to complete chaos.
    Now it seems that the trend has turned positive, but it’s still a long way from getting out of our ass.
    And it’s definitely not through mass plantings and logging.

    Any revolution ends the same way - it devours those who carry it out and the percentage of crap goes off scale.

    But there’s no need for American McDonald’s either.

    Swedish capitalism-socialism (monarchy?) - seems like a real path. But not for our hot guys.