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Moscow is surrounded by the latest radar systems

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Moscow is surrounded by the latest radar systems

Defense Ministry strengthens the air shield around Moscow. In addition to modern anti-aircraft missile systems, the capital air defense zone is saturated with the latest radar systems.


With their help, the military can detect enemy objects in the sky hundreds of kilometers from the metropolis. Locators will not only detect foreign aircraft, helicopters and cruise missiles, but also give their coordinates to combat crews of anti-aircraft units. Without such data to bring down the enemy is simply impossible.

The military experienced one of such novelties during the command-staff exercise of the Aerospace Defense Forces. The name of the complex fully reflects its functionality - “All-High Detector”. The headquarters of the East Kazakhstan region told the "RG" correspondent that this complex is capable of not only detecting on time, but also determining the nationality of the air object, accompanying it, providing target designation and coordinate information via the radio and cable channels, as well as via fiber-optic communication line. This was demonstrated during a large-scale training of anti-aircraft missile units in the Central Industrial Region of Russia.

It is considered that command-staff exercises are conducted by generals on maps or computers. This type of combat training of the administration is also practiced. But, as a rule, troops are also attracted to KSHU. Moreover, the number of people and equipment involved there usually depends on the scale of the tasks assigned to the exercise. Training in the Moscow air defense zone raised an alarm about a thousand and a half soldiers and officers. And in the conventional destruction of enemy aircraft, helicopters and missiles, the military involved more than a hundred combat systems and complexes. Including - "All-altitude detector". Although it was put into service last year, it can safely be said that the complex underwent a “battle” test for the first time at this KSHU.

The official representative of the Aerospace Defense Forces, Colonel Aleksey Zolotukhin, told the RG correspondent that the air defense and missile defense units that are on alert around the capital and in the central industrial region of the country encountered a difficult operational situation. The calculations of the S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile systems and the Pantsir-S anti-aircraft missile and cannon systems had to march to new position areas and reflect massive missile and aviation blows of the conditional opponent. “For the rapid identification of targets, we used the latest radar system, the All-High Altitude Detector,” the officer emphasized. Moreover, this technique was used as a combat mode radar.

The Defense Ministry says that this complex perfectly mates with the C-300 and C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, including during the combat operations of one air defense division. It is also effective in combining the functions of a low-altitude detector, a survey locator and a command post. But the main thing is that the operational capabilities of this complex allow it to "open up" almost all types of aerodynamic targets - from veto to cruise missiles, including those made using stealth stealth technology.

According to Zolotukhin, four such radar complexes have already arrived in the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces. And over the next five years, they will equip all the radio engineering units of the Aerospace and Missile Defense.

It is already clear that, first of all, the All-Altitude Detector will receive the units covering the sky of Moscow. The Metropolitan Air Defense Zone is a region of special military responsibility. It is hardly worth explaining why she has such a status. But it can be recalled that it was here that the C-400 system first went on combat duty. Now came the turn of the new locator.
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  1. Vtel
    Vtel 4 September 2013 11: 20
    +3
    My dear Muscovites!
    Very, very happy for the Muscovites.
    1. Orel
      Orel 4 September 2013 11: 22
      40
      Good news. But in Russia there are other cities. Let's not stop there!
      1. don.kryyuger
        don.kryyuger 4 September 2013 14: 49
        +3
        And why does Moscow need other cities? There "Rublevka", there is 90% of the country's cash.
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 4 September 2013 11: 34
      14
      It's not for nothing that everyone "climbs" into Moscow ... it's safer there ... but seriously, this system won't last long in a serious mess, and there are many targets in Moscow and enemies will hit them, so it will be safer in the outback. ..
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 4 September 2013 11: 47
        11
        The task is not to stretch for a long time, and not to allow the KC to be destroyed in the first minutes, to gain time so that the team would pass about a retaliatory strike.
        1. a52333
          a52333 4 September 2013 12: 19
          18
          If KC is destroyed, the "dead hand" will respond. angry
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 4 September 2013 14: 46
            +2
            I once served in the Strategic Missile Forces, and I want to upset you, this system was not completed in the USSR (I’ll recover, it wasn’t physically completed, but for a number of reasons it didn’t come into operation due to software), but after the collapse of the USSR there’s nothing to say, I myself would like this system to exist and work but alas. recourse
            1. Aristarch
              Aristarch 4 September 2013 18: 00
              0
              Since you are so frank in your military past ..))) Where did the information come from?)))
              1. tilovaykrisa
                tilovaykrisa 4 September 2013 20: 51
                0
                from wikipedia laughing Or did you count on a sincere confession? Someone signed something and the validity period of some documents on which this aftograph has not expired so far, if the course does not tell me to explain to you. Enough of the fact that I'm still not visiting.
                1. Aristarch
                  Aristarch 4 September 2013 21: 28
                  0
                  "From Wikipedia))) For the future, in these matters, as far as strategic security is concerned, it is better not to refer to it.

                  The Perimeter command-and-control missile system was put into service in 1985. And the more you kill, you won’t find any data. And do not say that it did not come into operation, especially for the fictitious reasons that you indicated)))
                  1. tilovaykrisa
                    tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 16: 39
                    0
                    There was a sorcasm about the wiki, you didn’t even bother to carefully read my commentary, read for the future first and then leave your answer. And now about the main thing, you refer to a source that is not trustworthy, moreover, I’m almost sure that you can’t even imagine what kind of system it was and how it should work, unlike you, I know it and I don’t know from the Internet and the reason why this system was not put into operation I also know not from the Internet, but from the words of my immediate boss at that time, notice the general, but I think nothing will convince you laughing
                    1. Aristarch
                      Aristarch 5 September 2013 19: 17
                      0
                      And you are with ambition))) and with such self-confidence))) you still have a lot to understand for a young man, so that at least he will learn a lot of etiquette of communication.

                      ____
                      What did I indicate the source? where, in what place ??? your emotions run ahead of you, how do you know what I represent? And your cover that you served in the Strategic Missile Forces is completely nonsense, such as YOU - they don’t take them at least for moral reasons, there are strict selection criteria for such troops, including a conversation with a psychologist. And even a cannon shot wouldn’t let you in, you’re a bouncer and a chatterbox who decided to earn an image here. YOU are more uninteresting to me.
                      1. tilovaykrisa
                        tilovaykrisa 5 September 2013 19: 39
                        0
                        Even if I am with Honor, however, and with your head, you, in turn, are deprived of the organ so much necessary for a normal person. Judging by your hasty conclusions and the transition without cause for insult, the conclusion about your youthful age and maximalism peculiar to him suggests itself and here you are absolutely right our further communication does not seem interesting to me.
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          3. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 5 September 2013 05: 12
            -1
            Quote: a52333
            If KC is destroyed, the "dead hand" will respond. angry

            Tired of this children's horror story already ... a dead hand, a dead head ... I strongly doubt that it functions. Like the BZHRK ...
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 4 September 2013 11: 47
      +6
      Quote: Vtel
      Very, very happy for the Muscovites.


      Me too, but not in simple Muscovites. It’s just not even enough for the metro.
      1. afire
        afire 4 September 2013 13: 50
        +4
        you don’t need to be so jealous of this, the most important place in any system is its management, management will be destroyed - everyone will have problems, and the second moment - in WWII Moscow was the goal of Hitler’s victory, and not some other city. Similarly, in America, phasington is especially protected.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 4 September 2013 16: 27
          +1
          Quote: afire
          in WWII Moscow was the goal of Hitler's victory

          But Stalingrad, Leningrad how.
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      2. Manager
        Manager 4 September 2013 16: 01
        +2
        Quote: Vadivak
        Me too, but not in simple Muscovites. It’s just not even enough for the metro.


        Here everything is so built up and there are so many underground rivers that rockets aren’t even necessary. A familiar digger told me that Moscow stands on parole. Any severe hurricane with flooding may be the last for the center of the capital. It’s on my side, I live in the Zelenograd district of Moscow. It is 30 km from MKAD. But it is considered Moscow. Since this is a science city. Here are all the factories that make fillings for weapons. Yes, and in general all the electronics. There were rumors that there was even a nuclear reactor near Zelenograd. I don’t know about this, but at the NIITM where I work, I often feel like the metro (although the metro does not go to Zelenograd) says that there is still a special government line. I haven’t seen it, I don’t know.
        But air defense in the circle of Zelenograd should be cool.
        1. gispanec
          gispanec 4 September 2013 18: 40
          +1
          Quote: Manager
          But air defense in the circle of Zelenograd should be cool.

          I congratulate you on air defense ... and we .... residents of Zamkadia, in particular N Novgorod (population of 3 lyamas, a bunch of factories of the military-industrial complex and civilian direction .... nuclear center of Sarov), covered with 2002 before 300, then removed and left ..... so the sky above us is like a German autobahn ..... Moscow will just drop the missiles intended for us above it, I live at the television center .... so the first rocket usually flies there))
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 4 September 2013 21: 20
            0
            You are mistaken, carefully study from the open sources of the coverage area of ​​our air defense, the attack is not just flying through the sky but from walking from geographically convenient corridors (zones), and it’s these directions that are very well covered by you, because someone left somewhere))) so maybe it was just a relocation of air defense systems in connection with their replacement with more powerful systems, as a result of moving control structures away from the routes described above (real practice).
            1. aviator_IAS
              aviator_IAS 4 September 2013 23: 06
              0
              Quote: tilovaykrisa
              You are mistaken, carefully study from the open sources of the coverage area of ​​our air defense, the attack is not just flying through the sky but from walking from geographically convenient corridors (zones), and it’s these directions that are very well covered by you, because someone left somewhere))) so maybe it was just a relocation of air defense systems in connection with their replacement with more powerful systems, as a result of moving control structures away from the routes described above (real practice).


              I didn’t want to upset you, but you are unlikely to find a real air defense coverage area. Perhaps you are confused with the coverage areas of SPRN stations. All the same, to see and be able to fuck two big differences. I didn’t know about Sarov, but under the stool they similarly removed (not relocated, namely eliminated) the S-300 complexes covering some Russian nuclear power plants. All this is alarming. Such objects must be protected.
    4. Politician
      Politician 4 September 2013 15: 31
      +4
      There are notes of irony in your congratulations. He himself is not a Muscovite, but in my opinion a perfectly reasonable decision is, first of all, to protect the country's leadership from a sudden blow. Otherwise, there will be no one to give a command to retaliate.
    5. Manager
      Manager 4 September 2013 15: 54
      +1
      Quote: Vtel
      My dear Muscovites!

      Thank you.
      Quote: Vtel
      Very, very happy for the Muscovites.

      Thank you.

      But still, as Moskvich I will say the following. Whatever many are offended, in any country in the world, the capital of the country is protected by the best systems. Just like strategic objects. Since in case of war, there is very little chance that missiles will fly, for example, to Omsk or Samara.
      At the same time, I completely agree that besides the fact that Moscow is the capital, this is not all of Russia, but only part of it. And that it is necessary to protect all cities with the same tenacity.
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 4 September 2013 21: 25
        0
        The capital of the state is better protected just because of a gain in time (5-30 minutes) is no longer required for the evacuation and passage of the team about a retaliatory strike. If the goal is not achieved, even one extra ax will not fall to the capital, everything will fly to technological areas, regional PUVs, the Urals will mainly be crap. This is where our hope is.
    6. lelikas
      lelikas 4 September 2013 18: 13
      0
      Quote: Vtel
      My dear Muscovites!
      Very, very happy for the Muscovites.

      That's what the Muscovites wanted to troll - and here the herak and in the news on the radio-Smolny ordered the construction of an underground bunker ........
      The question HOW is not posed, but the question NA * UY remains open.
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 4 September 2013 20: 02
        0
        Samara is the second capital of our empire
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 4 September 2013 21: 26
          +1
          You even have a MEGA bunker, but I still remember you as Kuibyshev)
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 4 September 2013 21: 34
            +1
            good knowledge you have, it pleases
    7. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 5 September 2013 05: 14
      0
      Quote: Vtel
      My dear Muscovites!
      Very, very happy for the Muscovites.

      Sincerely or with sub-E ???
  2. Airman
    Airman 4 September 2013 11: 21
    +4
    It’s better not around Moscow, but away from it, in order to detect the IOS as far as possible, and there would be more time to make a decision.
    1. 787nkx
      787nkx 4 September 2013 11: 31
      +3
      The complex works at an operational-tactical-tactical depth and is intended to cover certain zones in this depth. Closer to the borders there are other air defense forces that also conduct reconnaissance and transmit information, including to Moscow.
      1. AVV
        AVV 4 September 2013 14: 28
        -5
        A good system, but it will be suitable only during a normal attack, and not when using nuclear warheads!
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 4 September 2013 12: 03
      +5
      Quote: Povshnik
      It’s better not around Moscow, but away from it, in order to detect the IOS as far as possible, and there would be more time to make a decision.


      Air defense facilities directly in Moscow were built in 1950-1955. around Moscow, an almost insurmountable for aviation anti-aircraft missile defense system was developed and deployed - two rings of anti-aircraft missile systems. Its creation took 4,5 years. Military units equipped with S-25 complexes were located at a distance of 75-85 km from Moscow in a tight ring (at a distance of 10-15 km from each other). Such military units were quite large in area facilities served by a large number of personnel. The main type of camouflage of the S-25 military units was the location in the forests, the crowns of the trees of which were hidden from prying eyes by the whole streets of the military units.
      Most of the S-25 units were disbanded in the 1990s. Now in their territories the poor and destitute are building cottages

      On the far reaches of Moscow, air defense fighter regiments were covering, well, you know, judging by the nickname.
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 4 September 2013 15: 57
        +2
        Well, it seems like the S-25 on the S-300PT was almost completely replaced in the early 1980s. I remember the corps commander said that Moscow’s air defense can simultaneously fire at 500 targets.
        Surely now, up to a third of them are alive
        1. 787nkx
          787nkx 4 September 2013 20: 05
          0
          I confirm that only the PTs were changed to PS, then to PM and PMU, now 400.
          1. cdrt
            cdrt 4 September 2013 20: 28
            +1
            I know about PT-PS-PM, I really thought that PMUs are export options, as well as PM-1, PM-2, PM-3 (aka S-400 wink ).
            Here are just how many divisions it costs - if before you could have 500 goals, i.e. 6 goals per division, about 80 divisions?
            Now there are 34 East Kazakhstan regiments, of which around Moscow there are hardly more than 8 regiments (too lazy to recount wink ), i.e. up to 25 divisions, i.e. firing up to 150 targets at a time. Of course, it’s not the Cold War now, but somehow it’s not enough real. Especially considering that the United States loves and knows how to deliver massive strikes with the KR and airplanes simultaneously.
            Yes, by the way, the article seems to be about that all-high-altitude detectors (with towers which?), Which have always been declared as a possible / desirable addition, will be introduced into the S-300 / S-400 around Moscow. By the way, it’s interesting - since childhood I remember that there were towers in the Moscow Region (for PT it seems).
    3. 77bor1973
      77bor1973 4 September 2013 21: 34
      +1
      It’s just that in due time, in 1972, the ABM Treaty agreed on missile defense zones, and Moscow within the M-108 became such a zone. Amerikosov in my opinion was the area over Camp David until the United States withdrew from the treaty.
  3. to4kavserdce
    to4kavserdce 4 September 2013 11: 22
    +4
    Well done !! The sky above the capital, under reliable protection !!!
    1. don.kryyuger
      don.kryyuger 4 September 2013 14: 52
      -5
      Not only the sky, but also "Rublyovka", 90% of the cash. All this somehow needs to be protected.
  4. NAV-STAR
    NAV-STAR 4 September 2013 11: 24
    +9
    We need to patch up all the holes in the radar field of the country faster! The adversary has already begun to grill. I am glad that business is moving, moving !!!
    1. 787nkx
      787nkx 4 September 2013 11: 28
      +1
      From the north there is no field at all.
      1. Edward72
        Edward72 4 September 2013 12: 03
        +3
        And from the north we will threaten with a large tarpaulin boot (felt boots). I hope that this will not last long.
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 4 September 2013 12: 05
        +3
        Quote: 787nkx
        From the north there is no field at all.


        There used to be the 10th Air Defense Army, which provided defense from the Arctic coast. Reduced to a division - expensive.
        1. VAF
          VAF 4 September 2013 15: 48
          +2
          Quote: Vadivak
          The 10th Air Defense Army used to be


          B 21th Air Defense Corps! And now crying all in one bottle, or rather on one AB request and as always ... in orderly rows fool
  5. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 4 September 2013 11: 26
    0
    It would be nice if all this missile defense and air defense system would work automatically without human intervention - the role of a person would be reduced only to the decision to shoot down or not to shoot down violators like a MATIASA RUSTA plane, and then there would be no need to remove shoulder straps from the heap of generals for headburning.


    In fact, the tendency to automate the entire ABM SYSTEM is obvious - the day will come when the entire missile defense and air defense system will resemble something like a computer system with gadgets like C500.
    It is possible to infinitely modernize and integrate into this system something new and more perfect.
    1. 787nkx
      787nkx 4 September 2013 11: 37
      +2
      This mode has been implemented on complexes of the S-300 family. But algorithms for automatic actions are slower than calculation actions and may also inadequately respond to a changing environment.
      1. Lech from ZATULINKI
        Lech from ZATULINKI 4 September 2013 11: 47
        +1
        When several hundred launchers are arranged around the project’s perimeter, united into a single network, no one will be able to compete with them in the speed of guidance and launch of the rocket.
        Of course there are disadvantages - saboteurs and special forces of the enemy as well as the use of non-traditional methods of warfare
        1. 787nkx
          787nkx 4 September 2013 19: 57
          0
          Air defense officers will not agree with you.
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 4 September 2013 12: 07
        +2
        Quote: 787nkx
        and they may also respond inappropriately to a changing environment.


        I remember the men complained about the first S-300s, the automation went out of order from the draft, there was a very capricious technique.
      3. cdrt
        cdrt 4 September 2013 20: 33
        0
        When is it interesting for the S-300/400 to make radars with AFAR? They promise for the S-500, but it will probably be by 2020. Developers promise for Buk-M3 (at least they write about it in their large circulation). For the same, it’s also time, for the S-350 the same new one too ...
        And then ... to fight in a single-breasted ... wink
    2. Tuzik
      Tuzik 4 September 2013 12: 31
      +1
      and a team of advanced hackers at one point will leave the whole country without air defense, even if the United States is better along this path of air defense development.
      1. 787nkx
        787nkx 4 September 2013 19: 54
        +2
        It will not leave, the sphere of TCP IP network hackers, our ACS is implemented on other technologies and is closed to everyone.
  6. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 4 September 2013 11: 27
    +2
    The news is good, of course, but with this method and at a rapid pace it is necessary to cover all the major cities, and the radar coverage and destruction of firearms should be calculated so that there are no gaps! Faster Faster!
  7. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 4 September 2013 11: 27
    +1
    Now we are doing this "Umbrella" over all of Mother Russia !!!
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 4 September 2013 11: 32
      +6
      topic video
  8. saag
    saag 4 September 2013 11: 32
    +3
    If the latest air defense systems are not standing near your city, then this may even be good - nothing will fly to your city :-)
    1. Lech from ZATULINKI
      Lech from ZATULINKI 4 September 2013 11: 37
      +5
      Gaddafi also thought so - poor thing what naivety.
  9. saag
    saag 4 September 2013 11: 51
    +2
    he didn’t have the latest air defense systems, that's the whole thing :-) They cover Moscow, Peter, but I guess I don’t, and there is a nuclear power plant
    1. eagle11
      eagle11 4 September 2013 11: 59
      +1
      no complex can save from the use of air defense systems, by a country such as the United States, only the required outfit will change, the air defense system, which is based only on air defense systems - utopia.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 4 September 2013 12: 15
        +4
        Quote: eagle11
        no complex will save from the application of ICS


        Only the same SLE on our part, the best defense is this attack can it be worth paying more attention to hypersound? Moreover, the achievements of the USSR in the form of a Koala are
  10. a52333
    a52333 4 September 2013 11: 52
    +5
    Alexander Nevsky and Vladimir Monomakh will be launched by the end of the year. Let's see if we have enough health to test us for strength. It is doubtful.
    1. Curculum
      Curculum 4 September 2013 14: 34
      +4
      On September 3, at 16.00:995 pm, the Yuri Dolgoruky strategic nuclear submarine missile carrier, the lead ship of Project XNUMX Borey, left the Sevmash plant and departed for the place of permanent service in the Northern Fleet. The new base of the submarine is the village of Gadzhievo.
  11. saag
    saag 4 September 2013 12: 20
    +4
    Yes, if tungsten scrap is dispersed to hypersonic speeds, then it is unlikely that it will stop
    1. lucidlook
      lucidlook 4 September 2013 13: 11
      +4
      Quote: saag
      Yes, if tungsten scrap is dispersed to hypersonic speeds, then it is unlikely that it will stop

      A cloud of titanium dust sprayed in the air along its path, if you do not eat it to zero, it is guaranteed to violate aerodynamics, knock off course (because the crowbar is uncontrollable), will make you move chaotically.
  12. lucidlook
    lucidlook 4 September 2013 13: 08
    +3
    Moscow is surrounded by the latest radar systems

    One in Norway, the second in Turkey, the third in the Czech Republic ...
  13. SPBOBL
    SPBOBL 4 September 2013 13: 23
    0
    Such a dome in the Russian Federation ... besides allies in Europe and Asia + our allies on other continents connected to our system and expand the coverage area of ​​the dome, as soon as possible, even open a ministry dome, with the functions of choosing an unfriendly country, first gingerbread after it goes ..., a change of government ... and under the dome, and so on ... expand, expand and everywhere the base, base ... s-500, PanSyr, and so on and so forth. Production, expand capital defense ...
  14. waisson
    waisson 4 September 2013 13: 46
    +2
    it is necessary to transfer the capital to Siberia there will be less defense costs, otherwise it turns out that the Kremlin surrounded itself .....................
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 5 September 2013 05: 27
      0
      Quote: waisson
      it is necessary to transfer the capital to Siberia there will be less defense costs, otherwise it turns out that the Kremlin surrounded itself .....................

      Yes, take it)))
  15. saag
    saag 4 September 2013 14: 06
    +1
    Quote: lucidlook
    Quote: saag
    Yes, if tungsten scrap is dispersed to hypersonic speeds, then it is unlikely that it will stop

    A cloud of titanium dust sprayed in the air along its path, if you do not eat it to zero, it is guaranteed to violate aerodynamics, knock off course (because the crowbar is uncontrollable), will make you move chaotically.

    neither the first nor the second. We look at the hardness of tungsten and the time on its impact, and he will not notice this dust, which will be swept away by the shock wave
    1. lucidlook
      lucidlook 4 September 2013 14: 25
      +3
      Quote: saag
      neither the first nor the second. We look at the hardness of tungsten and the time on its impact, and he will not notice this dust, which will be swept away by the shock wave

      Shock wave will arise from what? I guess from the blow. What happens to scrap from a blow? I believe - the curvature and displacement of the center of gravity. We add here the unevenness of the cloud and the abrasive properties of titanium. However, I do not insist on titanium. Do not like titanium, take ceramics, diamonds or the same tungsten. This does not change the essence.

      If you think that the volume of the cloud (environment) in this case determines, try putting a sheet of newspaper on soft water and jumping on it from 3 meters.
      1. saag
        saag 4 September 2013 14: 42
        +1
        Lubon a body accelerated in the atmosphere to supersonic and hypersonic speeds forms a shock wave in front of itself - a region of compaction, the atmosphere is not something so static, no one canceled the movement of air masses
        1. lucidlook
          lucidlook 4 September 2013 14: 58
          +3
          Somehow I did not notice this behind supersonic airplanes. The shock wave upon crossing the barrier - yes, there is. Plasma around hypersonic aircraft - yes. The area of ​​air compaction in front of him is also yes. But - and this is very important - the thickness of this area is much less than the linear dimensions of the aircraft itself, and the directivity is pronounced (a kind of cone with the nose forward). Those. as the aircraft itself enters the environment, this front is moving (which is logical). And he moves at the same speed as the aircraft, in no case faster. Worse, this area is the result of the COMPRESSION of the environment around the aircraft. That is, if this aircraft flies into a cloud of chips, then it will COMBINE it first, and only then will try to overcome it.
  16. Alikovo
    Alikovo 4 September 2013 14: 58
    +1
    it is necessary to improve not the air defense of Moscow but the air defense of the country.
  17. Tan4ik
    Tan4ik 4 September 2013 15: 04
    +1
    All Moscow and Moscow ... Moscow and Moscow ... To be honest, tired. Moscow is a separate state, like the Vatican, but more. If air defense works well at borders, then no one will fly to Moscow either.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 4 September 2013 20: 43
      +1
      All Moscow and Moscow ... Moscow and Moscow ... To be honest, tired. Moscow is a separate state, like the Vatican, but more. If air defense works well at borders, then no one will fly to Moscow

      Moscow is the center of military, political, administrative and economic management.
      Moreover, I like it, I don’t like it, but Russia was created by Moscow, it is controlled by it.
      A blow to Moscow time - decapitation of the country's leadership + the maximum possible loss of civilian population (every 9th resident of the Russian Federation lives / works in Moscow time).
  18. rugor
    rugor 4 September 2013 15: 09
    +2
    You can’t cover the whole country with a shield. Here are cities with millionaires, large industrial and military facilities - this is a more realistic goal.
  19. saag
    saag 4 September 2013 15: 46
    0
    Quote: lucidlook
    then he will COMPRESS him first, and only then will he try to overcome it.

    a body moving in front of itself the front of the shock wave will simply shift what will hang in the atmosphere and will move it in front of itself, in general this is no obstacle
    1. lucidlook
      lucidlook 4 September 2013 16: 58
      +2
      Quote: saag
      a body moving in front of itself the front of the shock wave will simply shift what will hang in the atmosphere and will move it in front of itself, in general this is no obstacle

      Let me ask you what this front consists of. Which atoms? And why, if it moves independently and does not exert any influence on the aircraft, does the latter experience stresses (including thermal)?

      I dare to assume that this front consists mainly of air atoms simply for the reason that this air is located on the path of the aircraft. If there is water, not air, then the front will be out of the water. And if there is a change in the medium of movement, then inevitably there will be a change in the composition of the front. With all the consequences.
      1. saag
        saag 4 September 2013 17: 18
        +1
        a substance that should hang in the air for some time due to its fine dispersion should be close to aerosols, the area of ​​compaction of air like a wave will simply move everything that hangs from its place and the body, due to its speed, simply will not have time to receive any significant effect, well maybe it will raise the body temperature a little, and in general I have not heard something to fight like that, I heard about "cherry in syrup" - tungsten-containing balls in the explosives of the anti-missile, but what would you suggest ...
        or here’s an example for you - there are sub-caliber shells, the same meter-long tungsten scrap, accelerates to about 1,5 km / s, imagine a burnout, dust from explosions on the battlefield and does such a shell fall into this dust and will it have something?
        1. lucidlook
          lucidlook 4 September 2013 17: 51
          +2
          I agree (about aerosol) and I also don’t know why they don’t fight using such methods. Perhaps you are right, and all this will not help ... And as for the sub-caliber shells, I suppose it all depends on the composition and size of the cloud. By analogy with armor - steel + ceramic vs steel. It is unlikely that someone will spray ceramic chips on the battlefield towards the firing tank.
  20. Brave
    Brave 4 September 2013 16: 29
    0
    Good news.
  21. Armata
    Armata 4 September 2013 16: 44
    -1
    Well, yes. Maskva is the navel of the earth. It will be cool if Siberia, the Urals, the Far East are wiped off the face of the earth. Not damn the main thing that Maskva resisted.
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 4 September 2013 20: 05
      -3
      Moskvabad will be bent without federal districts
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 4 September 2013 21: 38
        -1
        what kind of people are you
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 5 September 2013 05: 44
          -1
          If he could, he would slam minus 100. What kind of patriotism can we talk about if there are such individuals who call the capital of their homeland (judging by the flag? Correct, if I am mistaken) Moskvabad. In the 41st you would say so ... your grandfather would have slammed you first. Grandson ...
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 5 September 2013 08: 01
            0
            that’s when the problem with migrants is solved, when they are forced out of the capital’s business then Moscow will be, but for now, Moscow
  22. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 4 September 2013 16: 46
    +1
    The radar 96L6E is designed to detect, determine nationality, recognize classes, tie and track the routes of airborne targets, provide target designations and three coordinate information about all detected airborne objects to consumers through a radio channel, cable channel and (or) fiber-optic communication line. The procedure for transmitting information to the consumer is organizationally determined by the agreed pairing protocol, and by hardware - by replacing the reprogrammable interface cards.
    The radar can be used as part of the S-300 PMU, S-300 PMU1, Favorit systems, including during the conduct of hostilities by one division, combining the functions of a low-altitude detector, surveillance radar and command post, and is also used in radio engineering and anti-aircraft missile subunits as a radar of a combat regime. http://airshow.ru/expo/295/3_11_r.htm
  23. VadimSt
    VadimSt 4 September 2013 16: 56
    +1
    When you read some comments that are saturated with sarcasm and nagging, you get the idea that the fewer such strategists, analysts, patriots, depressants, nerds and whiners in Russia, the better.
    1. Armata
      Armata 4 September 2013 17: 43
      0
      Quote: VadimSt
      When you read some comments that are saturated with sarcasm and nagging, you get the idea that the fewer such strategists, analysts, patriots, depressants, nerds and whiners in Russia, the better.
      It is better that there are more URA patriots who sit and believe in a brighter future. Well, fight for all URA, and tomorrow you’ll hide under the bed and still believe in the benefactor. fool
      1. VadimSt
        VadimSt 4 September 2013 18: 37
        +4
        I am always against shapkozakidatelstva and "hurray for patriots", but professional commentary (for example vaf, in topics on aviation) and idle talk are completely different things!
        I have already said that there is a category of people who are always and everything is bad - "they do not do badly," "they do - either badly, or not so fast, or not at all." It's just that some people evaluate everything superficially and one-sidedly, without evaluating and taking into account all the components, and this is idle talk - the main thing is to crow louder, and it doesn't matter what time of day and in whose chicken coop.
        1. Armata
          Armata 4 September 2013 20: 15
          +2
          Quote: VadimSt
          professional commentary (e.g. vaf, in aviation topics) and idle talk are completely different things!
          Well, about Sergey, his competence is beyond doubt.
          1. VadimSt
            VadimSt 4 September 2013 20: 47
            +2
            And I, in the competence of retired Colonel General Viktor Yesin, also have no doubt. Read the article - “Sarmat” will replace “Voivode”, where everything is professionally reasoned and laid out in three shelves! And then, my comment, which you didn’t like, will become more clear!

            And the minuses and pluses to me to one place - they do not feed me and do not insult me!
  24. tol100v
    tol100v 4 September 2013 17: 45
    +1
    PLEASE PROMOTE WHAT IS THE BEAST OF THE EW COMPLEX "JUDOIST"
  25. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 4 September 2013 20: 08
    +2
    it’s best to conduct exercises off the coast of the United States and then we will be calmer
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 4 September 2013 20: 46
      0
      it’s best to conduct exercises off the coast of the United States and then we will be calmer

      Put a plus.
      And then I thought.
      I remember in 1983 they sailed off the coast of the United States, they even say they almost started a world war, but somehow they were not calmer.
  26. saag
    saag 4 September 2013 20: 50
    0
    Quote: cdrt
    it’s best to conduct exercises off the coast of the United States and then we will be calmer

    Put a plus.
    And then I thought.
    I remember in 1983 they sailed off the coast of the United States, they even say they almost started a world war, but somehow they were not calmer.

    Are you talking about the "Black Prince" or what? Yes, there was a decision if the Americans were to board the boat, then there would be a rocket salvo, they didn’t start boarding, I don’t remember the date.
  27. Sirs
    Sirs 5 September 2013 07: 06
    +1
    Not only the Moscow Industrial Center should be covered with new systems, but also other industrial centers such as Krasnoyarsk, Yekaterinburg, St. Petersburg, SevMash, and much more ... and of course it’s clear that the priorities are to make a cover first.
  28. Rash
    Rash 5 September 2013 07: 28
    0
    My dear Muscovites! I'm happy for you. It is hoped that there will not be enough warheads for my city.
  29. saag
    saag 5 September 2013 09: 01
    -1
    "Promotion! Today, the Igla MANPADS of the latest modification is on sale at a discount, our team won first place with this type of weapon in the exercise of firing at moving cruise missiles !!! Hurry, the promotion will last until the end of the month !!!" :-) " New arrival - "Constructor of a young anti-missile missile" - similar to the Lego constructor, collecting various modules you get an electronic warfare facility of the required configuration ":-)