US Navy aircraft carrier strike group with Nimitz heavy nuclear carrier enters the Red Sea

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The US Navy aircraft carrier strike group (AUG) with a heavy nuclear aircraft carrier (AVT) Nimitz (Nimitz) entered the Red Sea on September 2, in case of need, to support American forces during a possible operation in Syria. This was stated to journalists by a representative of the US military under confidentiality.

According to him, the AUG has not yet received an order to advance into the Mediterranean Sea, where there are currently five destroyers and the US Navy San Antonio (San Antonio) universal landing craft that can be involved in a military operation.

The Nimitz aircraft carrier, as well as the accompanying three destroyers, the URO, William P. Lawrence, Stockdale, and Shoup, and the cruiser URO, Princeton, as noted by the Pentagon representative , "have taken a position that will allow them to respond to various unforeseen situations." AVT Harry S. Truman will also be in the Persian Gulf zone.

On Saturday, US President Barack Obama said he decided to strike at Syria, stressing that the military operation will take place only with the consent of the US Congress. Obama believes that the use of military force is necessary to punish and restrain Bashar Assad, who allegedly used chemical weapon against civilians. The head of the White House has already sent a draft resolution to Congress allowing it to use the US military for this purpose. However, the vote on the resolution will take place no earlier than September 9, when the lawmakers return to work after the summer holidays.
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  1. +15
    3 September 2013 15: 04
    The bearers of democracy are pulling up. Targeting agents are on their way:
    Media: US sent 50 CIA-trained militants to Syria 3 September 2013, 14: 03
    At a meeting with Republican senators, US President Barack Obama said that members of the 50-man sabotage squad trained by the CIA began infiltrating Syria, media reported.

    Obama said US efforts to equip and train Syrian rebels have begun to pay off, and the first 50 saboteurs have already infiltrated Syria, the New York Times reports.

    A statement was made at a meeting with Republican senators and congressmen, including John McCain and Lindsay Graham.


    Infa from here: http://vz.ru/news/2013/9/3/648439.html

    Today the news slipped that the Americans are considering a large-scale operation in Syria .. Sadness recourse
    1. +23
      3 September 2013 15: 08
      Atomic shock peacekeeper. If only the bearded drowned him with some sort of terrorist attack.
      1. +5
        3 September 2013 15: 10
        Quote: Canep
        Atomic shock peacekeeper. If only the bearded drowned him with some sort of terrorist attack.

        Why bite the hand that feeds you?
        1. +6
          3 September 2013 15: 17
          This idiot, in my opinion, do not care who to fight with "Alyakh Akbar, ax head". America, for them, is a fiend of evil and a bunch of infidels to fight against. In my life I will not believe that if al-Qaeda has a real opportunity to drown the Nimitz, they will not do it.
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          2. +12
            3 September 2013 16: 22
            Quote: Canep
            This idiot, in my opinion, do not care who to fight with "Alyakh Akbar, ax head". America, for them, is a fiend of evil and a bunch of infidels to fight against.

            wah-wah, how childish it sounds.
            "Mattress and Shaved" pay money and provide all-round support for the "Basmachi" and the last turn is not without a difference where to-lyu-lyukat and grumble. Lard and vodka eat everything, checked repeatedly, this is to words about infidels, etc.
            Quote: Canep
            In my life I will not believe that if al-Qaeda has a real opportunity to drown the Nimitz, they will not do it.

            They won’t do it.
            I won’t even offer to bet you, it’s so obvious.
            The left hand cannot tear off the right hand or try to separate the body from the head. wink
            1. +1
              3 September 2013 18: 48
              I’ll insert my five cents, with permission. hi
              They won’t do it.
              I won’t even offer to bet you, it’s so obvious.
              The left hand cannot tear off the right hand or try to separate the body from the head.

              Your mistake is that you suppose the bearded ones are the watchdogs of the modern "Ahnenerbe" (NSA). However, this would not have been true until the legend of "Pandora's Box" implied the word "controlled".
              So far, facts such as in this photo. Do you need explanations for the photo?
              1. +2
                3 September 2013 20: 42
                Quote: dmitreach
                So far, facts such as in this photo.

                In this case, too, AlkaEda did everything?

                Quote: regressSSSR
                al-Qaeda is very diverse and heterogeneous and far from being subcontrolled by the United States.

                I would agree with you if everything had not happened to the opposite.
                Who pays and dances, and there are plenty of ways to psychologically process any person. The most dexterous are put on the needle and woo-a-la 100500% devoted devotee.
                See less CNNe and BBC. hi
                nothing that I write with a capital letter
                I’m a mattress and I don’t have a different call and it doesn’t bother me at all and my conscience sleeps normally.
                1. +1
                  3 September 2013 22: 07
                  just do it, of course it’s a parodox that they shasuyut for Shas for those who supposedly declared war on them by demolishing the twins))! well, these games are clear to us, but that's how they explain it to the people, this incident is already interesting! and how it all fits into the democratic model of society among the people is also interesting to ask! according to our Russia Today channel, we should touch upon such a topic and see how Obama will justify themselves (well, not everyone is stupid in the USA), but there are people who are really interested in what is happening!

                  I think Obama is talking about something like that they say there are bad (black) Alkaids who are blowing everything up and blah blah blah BUT! there are good, honest, honest al-Qaeda people who are fighting exclusively for the democratic foundations of a society with hated US regimes, and since they themselves are not getting better, they should be helped immediately (this is in the style of a two-faced US policy))
                  that's interesting the people’s roof will not go after this statement)))
                2. 0
                  3 September 2013 23: 41
                  Papakiko (2)
                  I would agree with you if everything had not happened to the opposite.
                  Who pays and dances, and there are plenty of ways to psychologically process any person. The most dexterous are put on the needle and woo-a-la 100500% devoted devotee.


                  yes so then it is of course so here you are certainly right! but you really have too good opinions about the special services of the United States to buy to intimidate or tame by other means. ALL is obscure for anyone there is no one even the United States will always find an uncontrolled leader, and the more the noose of the United States weakens, the more such will appear!

                  See less CNNe and BBC.


                  BBC? and something like that smile hi
              2. +1
                3 September 2013 21: 11
                Quote: dmitreach
                So far, facts such as in this photo.

                Or like these:
                1. 0
                  4 September 2013 00: 09
                  and? what does this prove?
                  "Mattress and Shaved" pay money and provide all-round support for the "Basmachi" and the last turn is not without a difference where to-lyu-lyukat and grumble. The left hand cannot tear off the right hand or the body cannot try to separate from the head.

                  Is this the proof of the fact that mattresses and shaved people are terrorizing their own, with the bearded hands? Oh oh
                  Rather, the pandora's box cannot be managed. And speaking in Russian: they warmed a snake on their chest.
                2. Stalinets
                  +1
                  4 September 2013 02: 01
                  All these photos are a FULL LACK. This one-legged clown, lost her in Afghanistan. In general, it was a PSI operation, without casualties. All these bloody disguised characters, actors, there is a site about them. They were filmed during the next "shooting at school and cinema. Http://crisisactors.org This site. Do not get fooled by bullshit !!!!
            2. +2
              3 September 2013 19: 08
              Quote: Canep
              In my life I will not believe that if al-Qaeda has a real opportunity to drown the Nimitz, they will not do it.


              Papakiko (2)
              They won’t do it.
              I won’t even offer to bet you, it’s so obvious.
              The left hand cannot tear off the right hand or try to separate the body from the head. wink


              I suppose, all the same, that the al-Qaida organization is very diverse and heterogeneous and far from being controlled by the United States, it seems that it was reluctant and there are enough people hating the states so this is the very rabid dog that is capable of clinging to the holler and the owner if they don’t throw a new bone on time !(East is a delicate matter)))
              the question is not whether they will blow up or not an aircraft carrier, but the question is that it’s accurate to check on someone who doesn’t assemble so the question acquires a rhetorical connotation!

              nothing that I write in the United States with a small letter with a capital, here's the hand hi
          3. +1
            3 September 2013 16: 24
            Yeah, when they introduce their adept (s) into the crew, then everything can be.
          4. +2
            3 September 2013 17: 08
            they’ll do it, they’ll definitely do it only after hitting Syria wassat

            if you seriously think, bearded men will not be allowed there for a cannon shot))
        2. +3
          3 September 2013 15: 36
          Not all this miscellaneous trash adores the United States. For them, the Americans are, if an ally, then temporary. So after all, in the news, the bearded scum often claims that the enemy next to Syria is the United States. In general, there are many groups and they are still fighting among themselves. In addition, Yemen is nearby, and amers periodically hammer it with drones. After all, they can, in a serious way, be offended?
          1. +17
            3 September 2013 15: 38
            hi
            To "please" the Indos, it was necessary, and even now it is not too late, to transfer the Club complexes to Assad



            Then organize the exit of container ships -
            And ... may there always be sun ...
            1. vaddag1
              +6
              3 September 2013 16: 56
              nice cartoon, almost like "well, wait a minute"
              1. Natalia
                +2
                3 September 2013 19: 43
                Quote: Apologet.Ru
                To "please" the Indos, it was necessary, and even now it is not too late, to transfer the Club complexes to Assad

                Ha! prikona, plague finally))) Operation called "Big Bummer"
              2. MG42
                +3
                4 September 2013 00: 33
                Quote: vaddag1
                nice cartoon, almost like "well, wait a minute"

                There, the video shows that the launched missiles bypass the air defense coverage area, something reminiscent of the video from the American LRASM PCR, this element is also present there ..
                No matter how smooth it is on paper, so as not to forget about the "ravines" ..
            2. p-159
              +1
              3 September 2013 17: 50
              smacks of anti-American rhetoric. you don't like the USA
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                1. +5
                  3 September 2013 19: 33
                  You are not alone !!!
                  1. +7
                    3 September 2013 20: 41
                    hi
                    Why is my koment on a question-suggestion from r-159
                    smacks of anti-American rhetoric. you don't like the USA

                    was deleted by someone, restoring -

                    I repeat, but usually I am “tolerant of gnashing of teeth”, but now I will say frankly - I HATE P.indosia with the whole being of my Slavic and Orthodox soul and heart.
                    The accursed country of the wbp and u.b.l.u.d.ko.v. in full understanding of these words.
                    And all the comments on the events in this country only from this observation point!
                    And I'm sure that I'm not alone in my addictions to this mutant country ...
          2. p-159
            +2
            3 September 2013 17: 35
            following we are unfortunately. i am tatar
        3. 0
          3 September 2013 19: 27
          Well, you can stick a beard ...
        4. 0
          4 September 2013 03: 14
          Quote: il grand casino
          Quote: Canep
          Atomic shock peacekeeper. If only the bearded drowned him with some sort of terrorist attack.

          Why bite the hand that feeds you?

          A mad dog bites his hand that feeds her, and she herself can ...
      2. Alex-z84
        +4
        3 September 2013 16: 15
        Quote: Canep
        Atomic shock peacekeeper. If only the bearded drowned him with some sort of terrorist attack.

        Nah ... they are allies, this is an al-Qaeda aircraft carrier.
        1. 0
          3 September 2013 23: 42
          Quote: Alex-z84
          Al Qaeda Navy.

          Very accurate definition. It would be right if in the future the Russian media (really Russian) commented on events in this vein. Example: Al Qaeda Navy launched missile and bomb attacks on Syria’s infrastructure ... It would be funny if not so sad.
      3. Natalia
        +7
        3 September 2013 16: 29
        Quote: Canep
        Atomic shock peacekeeper. If only the bearded drowned him with some sort of terrorist attack.

        Good idea))) And it would look something like this wink
        Houston we have a problem .... lol
        or as the Americans say: "Your mother ..."
        1. Strong
          +10
          3 September 2013 17: 29
          The whole irony is that no one after the war in the Pacific Ocean was still pleasing to the eye with his drowning, except this old man Oriskani :)

          But as fans of aircraft carriers fantasize over a photo of this only case - you are amazed.
        2. +2
          3 September 2013 19: 35
          they still say may day may day
      4. +1
        3 September 2013 23: 06
        If only the bearded drowned him with some sort of terrorist attack.

        They themselves will sink.
        The United States practices this (recall September 11).
        1. Strong
          0
          4 September 2013 21: 39
          Come on. Even at the time of Pearl Harbor, by a lucky coincidence, they took aircraft carriers out of the harbor. And that’s all.
    2. +14
      3 September 2013 15: 12
      Personally, I would be more pleased with this news:
      Aircraft carrier strike group of the US Navy with the heavy nuclear aircraft carrier "Nimitz" safely lay on the bottom of the Red Sea
      1. +1
        3 September 2013 17: 01
        This was announced to reporters by a representative of the US military on confidentiality.
        This line guarded me. Is that so? It now journalists do they all talk confidentially? Ohhh ... winked
    3. +3
      3 September 2013 15: 28
      Swam and that's enough, it's time to the bottom ...
      1. p-159
        0
        3 September 2013 17: 52
        I remember Interprise
      2. +7
        3 September 2013 18: 39
        ShturmKGB
        Swam and that's enough, it's time to the bottom ...

        Exactly !!! "YAKHONT in his side !!!" - as the old pirate used to say! laughing
    4. VAF
      VAF
      +6
      3 September 2013 19: 26
      Quote: seasoned
      Today the news slipped that the Americans are considering a large-scale operation in Syria ..


      Hello, Lyosha! So it is so, but in the "Massak" amerovskih warriors, the same "fermentation" and not quite weak recourse
      "Climbed" today (between times, while the guys were "digging out" Bobik-737 at the airport, in the daytime he rolled out 150 meters and ... got stuck up to his ears, it's raining for the second day) to the official website of the Marines and ... ... I was already surprised when I read the "statements" of the personnel.
      It turns out the guys are not all like that .. "stupid", as according to M. Zadornov, but with their democracy. then in general they can say, "good, bayonet in the ground, well, in the sense of the deck ... fought" stop

      I made the photo clickable so that I could enlarge and read it.
      1. Alex 241
        +5
        3 September 2013 19: 49
        I welcome Seryozha, they understand that a lightning victorious war will not work, and dying for the sake of someone's indefatigable ambitions is a dubious pleasure.
      2. +5
        3 September 2013 20: 21
        Quote: vaf
        So it is so, but in the "Massak" amerovskih warriors, the same "fermentation" and not quite weak

        Hi, Serge hi When did it stop them? After all, it's not to go into the bayonet, but to press the buttons and release the CD without entering the affected area of ​​the air defense and coastal anti-ship missiles, which means one will refuse, another will be put at the helm, and the fact that such performances on social networks only pleases, but here it seems to me that the desire works "to light up" in the brand ... People are hiding behind posters, they are afraid, because there you can get on trial or dismissal
      3. +5
        3 September 2013 20: 24
        The site was hacked by hackers from the Syrian side or sympathetic to them. It is believed that the photos depicted are simply an element of the information war, that is, this photo is not real Amer warriors, but disguised Syrians or someone else.
        Although there are probably a bunch of disgruntled warriors among them who do not share the aspirations of the White House ... although what the hell is he White ... apparently it turns out that the house is "yellow", and full of inhabitants.
        1. +3
          3 September 2013 20: 48
          Quote: fero
          It is believed that the photos depicted are simply an element of the information war, that is, this photo is not real Amer warriors, but disguised Syrians or someone else

          There is an opinion that you owed me the N-th amount, but this does not mean that you really owe it, because the facts are stubborn things, and the opinion is a variable value.
          1. +1
            3 September 2013 21: 37
            Well, when at least one Amer warrior is condemned for actions that undermine the morale of the army (or at least get fired from service with a big news pomp), then there will be facts, but for now we see only sheets of paper covering no one knows.
      4. 0
        3 September 2013 21: 02
        Quote: vaf
        It turns out that guys are not all like that .. "stupid", as according to M. Zadornov, but with their democracy. then in general they can say - "good, bayonet in the ground, well, in the sense of the deck ... fought" stop

        I made the photo clickable so that I could enlarge and read it.

        Well, what does the picture with the statement of the Syrian army in the style of "we are brothers in arms, together soaked al-Qaeda, do not wet us" and several "muddy" photos?
        Do not flatter yourself if the "Marines" are ordered - they will trample on Syria as cute. They are not used to thinking too much.
    5. honest jew
      -14
      3 September 2013 20: 22
      All anti-American comments can be summed up like this: "The dogs are barking, the caravan is coming!" ... The most interesting thing is that everyone here is for Syria, for Assad, but did any of you do anything for Syria? Maybe they sent money or volunteered for the Syrian army? No!!! As the saying goes: "Everyone imagines himself a strategist seeing the battle from the side!" ... And at America's expense, the latest poll showed that 59 percent of Russians dream of living in America!
      1. Alex 241
        +7
        3 September 2013 20: 34
        Quote: Honest Jew
        but did any of you do anything for Syria
        First of all, start with yourself, otherwise it turns out that we are all so fucked up here, and you're all in white.
        Quote: Honest Jew
        And at the expense of America, the latest opinion poll showed that 59 percent of Russians dream of living in America!
        if you are nobody, and you haven’t become anyone in your homeland, then in America you will be just as empty a place!
        1. +3
          3 September 2013 21: 26
          Quote: Alex 241
          if you are nobody, and you haven’t become anyone in your homeland, then in America you will be just as empty a place!

          Sasha hi ! laughing! That you gave a soft forecast for the future of American citizenship from scratch wink .
          1. Alex 241
            +2
            3 September 2013 21: 39
            ...............
      2. +4
        3 September 2013 20: 42
        Quote: Honest Jew
        Maybe they sent money or enlisted in the Syrian army as volunteers?
        It’s enough that all the assistance provided to Syria by Russia is paid by taxes of its citizens
        Quote: Honest Jew
        All anti-American comments can be summed up like this: "The dogs are barking, the caravan is coming!"
        Dogs, as I understand it, according to your users of the VO site? After all, comments are of users and not abstract persons.
        Quote: Honest Jew
        The latest opinion poll showed that 59 percent of Russians dream of living in America!
        Who conducted the survey, "LabudaCenter"?
      3. +5
        3 September 2013 20: 43
        and also probably your 59% of Russians want to hit the wall head against the wall, all your opinion polls bought !!!!!
      4. +8
        3 September 2013 21: 31
        Quote: Honest Jew
        And at the expense of America, the latest opinion poll showed that 59 percent of Russians dream of living in America!

        I’m embarrassed to ask .... and the remaining 41% in Israel probably ?? ...... the survey was carried out by the Jews? and where? ... neither I nor my 10 friends, nor my family was interviewed by anyone ....
        1. +3
          3 September 2013 22: 55
          wassat probably the survey was conducted among LGBT people)))
        2. Arabist
          +1
          3 September 2013 22: 57
          It’s as if you yourself do not know that an honest Jew is as real as an Essessian Jew.
      5. VAF
        VAF
        +6
        3 September 2013 21: 39
        Quote: Honest Jew
        And at the expense of America, the latest opinion poll showed that 59 percent of Russians dream of living in America!


        Breschete dear, I beg your pardon for "my French", like a "gray gelding"! soldier
      6. 0
        4 September 2013 10: 53
        Quote: Honest Jew
        but did any of you make anything for Syria?

        The people here are sensible and understand what the problem of Syria is. And this is not the lack of money or soldiers. This is a lie and propaganda from the USA and other countries justifying their treachery. And let the West not be in a hurry to hang the winner’s crown from these comments.
      7. MG42
        +2
        5 September 2013 00: 27
        Quote: Honest Jew
        . And at the expense of America, the latest opinion poll showed that 59 percent of Russians dream of living in America!

        Such a trend was newfangled in some circles in the late times of perestroika and post-perestroika time = romanticism is good where we are not max. The beginning of the 90s was hooked .. fellow
        I remembered the then hit on this topic now in the <retro> heading laughing

        Combination American boy 1989

        As for the present tense = now I think that you are cunning ..
  2. +11
    3 September 2013 15: 05
    So much for the Nobel Peace Prize in advance !!!!
    1. +13
      3 September 2013 15: 14
      Quote: rugor
      Here you have the Nobel Peace Prize in advance


      rather, the Nobel Prize for war, or rather.
      1. +6
        3 September 2013 15: 45
        Quote: Apollon
        rather, the Nobel Prize for war, or rather.

        Apollon hi ! There is also a Nobel Prize for the most dirty and vile betrayal of the country. I will not call Laureth - a rather well-known figure, comparable in deed to Judas ...
        1. +5
          3 September 2013 17: 11
          you don’t confuse any hunchbacked bear. I have traced the viper so that we will never forget.
  3. +8
    3 September 2013 15: 06
    The Red Sea, of course, has a very beautiful underwater world ... and it's a pity to spoil it ... but if it had been spoiled by a large piece of iron (like Nimitz) ... I would not be very upset.
    P.S. Reptiles are sliding ...
    1. domovoi
      +2
      3 September 2013 15: 17
      I remember you on one of the branches sang the serenades of the miraculous army of Israel. and now call them bastards (the United States is their main ally, by the way), because Israel had a hand in the current situation. decide already ...
      1. +10
        3 September 2013 15: 22
        You have paranoia to mine. I argued that you need to learn from the experience of other people's armies. If you do not agree, it is your will. Throw a link where there are "serenades".
        P.S. The fact that the IDF is one of the most warring armies and from them everything else that I learn, I affirm now. The fact that I like US politics or Israel ... I don’t remember what I would say once
        1. domovoi
          +2
          3 September 2013 16: 51
          http://topwar.ru/32532-kak-cahal-nahodit-propavshih-bez-vesti-soldat.html в этой статье о перенимании опыта Россией - ни слова. вы же пели в одну дудку с евреями, поддакивая им. где вы были когда они начали свои песни о ситуации в сирии, про кровавого асада?
          1. +1
            3 September 2013 17: 41
            Here is a moto quote from there:
            "And yet the future for the UAV ... well done are those armies and governments that understand and develop this"

            "Don't touch your jeans, it's sacred))) Like rock and roll))) Although you can refuse cola, kvass is better)))"

            "If the text contains the word Israel and it does not stand next to the words" damned "," fascist ", etc., then this is all propaganda)))"

            "Since its inception, the Israeli army has never ceased hostilities ... every day, military operations take place somewhere. This is a fact. This makes it one of the most belligerent. And lick your ass ... well, if someone likes it ... various sexual perversions ... now you remembered them ... I would not even think, right words "

            "Yes, who's to blame that you understand the article this way ... I understand it this way - the IDF has a lot to learn and what to adopt in order to make the Russian army better ... if you really like Israel that:
            Quote: Native American Joe
            once again strengthened the view that Israel is the most Israeli Israel in the world

            THEN this is already your problem ... most of those present here do not think so ... donkeys, of course, they know how to think "

            There were a couple more, but they were off topic at all ... I don’t know what others sang, I expressed my point of view. And where are the serinades in America and Israel? The IDF is mentioned. So an article about him)))
            1. domovoi
              0
              3 September 2013 18: 04
              I repeat once again - your position on the whole was on the side of the Jews. no one even hinted about the adoption of experience - not a word about it in the article. Well, and your expression "And where are the serinads to America and Israel? The IDF is mentioned" is generally gorgeous. that is, we condemn Israel, but the IDF is good? you are not aware, apparently, that the IDF is directly subordinate to the politicians of Israel and is a means of promoting the policy of the Jews in the region. you set the IDF as an example, praise, act on the same side with the Jews - accordingly, you agree with their actions. it's like praising the us army but denouncing washington fool
              1. 0
                3 September 2013 18: 18
                The Wehrmacht obeyed the Führer ... but for some reason the whole world adopted from them many tactical and strategic aspects. I remember in my youth I studied the theory of quantitative logistics ... the following was written there: with the help of method X, firm Y increased the quality of planning by so many percent. It wasn’t anywhere that other companies should do the same ... but everyone adopted this experience. Or are you waiting while they write LIVE!
                P.S. In the same thread people from different countries left comments ... everyone understood the meaning. Only you around something chyudu laughing
                P.S.S. And you can learn a lot from the US Army. And if you don’t understand this ... then fool
                1. domovoi
                  0
                  3 September 2013 19: 07
                  so the question is - to adopt successful experience is a good thing. but, if you remember, the whole conversation began because of my opinion about too many articles about Israel. and it just smells not of an example of successful experience, but just propaganda. since you mentioned the Wehrmacht - this is similar to the German propaganda of the outbreak of war - they say what kind of army we have, and you have shit.
    2. +3
      3 September 2013 17: 04
      And I love "rivers" ... It would be a good object for divers, no worse than "Tisselgorm" bully
  4. +2
    3 September 2013 15: 08
    well, no matter how geeks calm down
  5. +7
    3 September 2013 15: 10
    Here She is the Goal for "Yakhonts" !!! am
    1. +4
      3 September 2013 15: 13
      sorry do not reach, these cowardly jackals do not fit, will peck from far
    2. +8
      3 September 2013 15: 39
      Quote: slavik_gross
      Here She is the Goal for "Yakhonts" !!!

      Amers now need a provocation, as with Vietnam, they’ll put some old trough to the bottom and blame Assad, or they will drown their airplane, but anything can be found as an excuse. And if the Syrians make Nimitz Yakhontov, then I’m afraid there will be a second Hiroshima in Damascus ... nothing will stop these bloodthirsty villains.
    3. +2
      3 September 2013 17: 12
      Do you think they are stupid to come so close?))
  6. +1
    3 September 2013 15: 12
    Here it is numbered by graduates of a madhouse ... Madmen!
  7. 0
    3 September 2013 15: 13
    maybe in a cube a couple of submarines with strategists are going to surface? so that everything happens quickly! Pump the devils
  8. Alikovo
    +2
    3 September 2013 15: 13
    why they don’t sit at their bases at home.
  9. +1
    3 September 2013 15: 16
    We hope that now all the strategic nuclear submarines where necessary !!!
    1. Oskar
      -3
      3 September 2013 15: 33
      That is unlikely...
  10. +3
    3 September 2013 15: 18
    Such an armada was caught up on small Syria ... they are still afraid (and not in vain ..)
    1. p-159
      +2
      3 September 2013 17: 57
      supreme cute smiled when asked whether they will attack
  11. +19
    3 September 2013 15: 22
    I read your comments and fucking awesome from your naivety, gentlemen

    Quote: Canep
    Atomic Peacekeeper

    Quote: il grand casino
    Reptiles are sliding ..

    What nonsense are you talking about, dear ones. The scarecrow CVN-68 came to the Red Sea, and you, you already got excited, as if the war would begin tomorrow. Nimitz fuck there is not needed (as in other things and everywhere), he does not solve anything in the Mediterranean Sea and does not depend on him. This is an ordinary American scarecrow, designed for the townsfolk and the media sensationalist
    Preparations for war are being conducted in completely different areas and the attack will be on the other side.


    Large US Air Force Airbase Incirlik (Turkey)


    The Yankees have control over the entire infrastructure of Iraq, there is an opportunity to deploy aircraft in Jordan, perhaps the participation of the Israeli Air Force
    Hundreds, if not thousands of combat aircraft and turntables - what in this case means 40-50 Nimitz sub-aircraft? Nothing!

    Take a look at the map: what is the main threat area? Iraq, Turkey, Jordan, or 150 km "strip" of the sea?
    1. 0
      3 September 2013 15: 27
      By the way, Ms. Merkel in her statement recently mentioned that Germany would not participate in this mess. If German pilots invaded Syria (there are a lot of them in the USA) and the patriots ’calculations in Turkey will be immediately sent to their homeland. Although maybe it just blurted out before the election.
    2. +9
      3 September 2013 15: 35
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      I read your comments and fucking awesome from your naivety, gentlemen


      Oleg, and do you think the Americans decided to organize a cruise for the sailors for good service?
      The forces pull together and this is visible, but what function will it perform and where the main strikes will be from is another question hi
    3. +2
      3 September 2013 15: 46
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      What nonsense are you talking about, dear ones. The scarecrow CVN-68 came to the Red Sea, and you, you already got excited, as if the war would begin tomorrow. Nimitz fuck there is not needed (as in other things and everywhere), he does not solve anything in the Mediterranean Sea and does not depend on him. This is an ordinary American scarecrow, designed for the townsfolk and the media sensationalist
      Preparations for war are being conducted in completely different areas and the attack will be on the other side.


      Naturally! Moreover, this is confirmed by the experience of all previous attacks. The capabilities of the carrier group are a drop in the bucket of the total forces in the region.
    4. MG42
      +9
      3 September 2013 15: 54
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      What nonsense are you talking about, dear ones. The scarecrow came to the Red Sea CVN-68

      Not tired of posting the same crap that aircraft carriers are not needed? Well, for some reason, all the time they participate in evil operations .. laughing
      1. +6
        3 September 2013 15: 57
        Quote: MG42
        Not tired of posting the same crap that aircraft carriers are not needed? Well, for some reason, all the time they participate in evil operations ..

        I would also remind you that, unlike the "scarecrow", an aircraft carrier can itself "dig up the entire field with the harvest." A scarecrow is a harmless horror story, but here a "scarecrow" with an escort and an air wing ...
        Again AWACS aircraft winked
        1. MG42
          +10
          3 September 2013 16: 02
          Quote: seasoned
          A scarecrow is a harmless horror story, but here a "scarecrow" with an escort and an air wing ...

          Now it will start that is not economically viable, the number of sorties from an aircraft carrier and from bases, etc. Only the printing press is there as much as necessary and they will print >>
          1. +2
            3 September 2013 16: 26
            Quote: MG42
            Now it will start that is not economically viable, the number of sorties from an aircraft carrier and from bases, etc. Only the printing press is there as much as necessary and they will print >>

            And by the way, in October, a new hundred-dollar bill is introduced into circulation. Why would it be?
            All at one time .....
            1. MG42
              +2
              3 September 2013 16: 35
              Quote: baltika-18
              And by the way, in October, a new hundred-dollar bill is introduced into circulation. Why would it be?

              Putting new notes into circulation does not cancel old ones will be gradually withdrawn from circulation ..
              A blue 3-D strip will appear on the banknote, on which the bell and the number 100 will be displayed. On this ribbon with holograms, in addition to the drawing of the Liberty Bell, one of the symbols of US independence, a copper ink tank will be displayed. When the banknote is tilted at a certain angle, the ink tank will change color to green, and the bell will disappear. Only the portrait of Benjamin Franklin, one of the founding fathers of the United States, will remain unchanged.

              All these innovations increased the cost of producing notes from 11 to 14 cents. But the US Federal Reserve is forced to make such expenses, as it is faced with the need to increase the protection of banknotes from counterfeiters. At the moment, the production of old counterfeit notes, made with extraordinary precision, continues.

              According to US law enforcement, their production is concentrated in North Korea. lol The ordinary eye cannot distinguish these notes from real ones; professional expertise is required. According to the US Secret Service, an agency that monitors the purity of the American currency, there are not many counterfeit dollars in circulation, only a fraction of a percent. But high-precision fakes from across the ocean continue to arrive in the country.

              http://zn.ua/ECONOMICS/v-oktyabre-ssha-vypustyat-novuyu-100-dollarovuyu-kupyuru-


              128381_.html
        2. +1
          3 September 2013 16: 34
          Quote: seasoned
          unlike the "scarecrow", the aircraft carrier can "dig the whole field with the harvest"

          Yes?
          And what did they not dig in Kuwait in 1990? stood, waited half a year until 2000 air force planes gathered
          Quote: seasoned
          Again AWACS aircraft

          The Air Force certainly doesn’t have them
          1. 0
            3 September 2013 16: 40
            Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
            Yes? And what did they not dig in Kuwait in 1990? stood, waited half a year until 2000 air force planes gathered

            Well, here it begins again ... The Amer sometimes try not to rush with their help, well, as an example of the opening of the Second Front in WWII ... Sometimes, the more the ally suffers, the more devoted for the help it will be, but the enemy also has damage all this time carries. So, if the aircraft carriers were a "scarecrow" they would have been sent on pins and needles long ago ... Everyone knows how to count money.
            Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
            The Air Force certainly doesn’t have them

            There are never a lot of AWACS hi Tighter control will be.
            1. -4
              3 September 2013 17: 18
              Quote: seasoned
              Amer sometimes try not to rush with his help, well, as an example, the opening of the Second Front in WWII ...

              And here it is ??
              WWII Yankees were waiting for the Wehrmacht to grind its teeth about the USSR
              Iraq didn’t fight with anyone in 1990 - it was only expanding its group in occupied Kuwait
              It was necessary to strike as quickly as possible, not allowing Hussein's troops to finally gain a foothold and impede the deployment of enemy forces

              Alas, the AUGs stood and waited. Because they knew: they would turn up - they would get on the forehead, but they would not stop the advance for a second. Thousands of Air Force combat vehicles from 40 countries of the world were needed, and not 2-3-4-5 pelvis with 50 aircraft

              ps the transfer of amer troops to the gulf region began in August 1990 - six months before the operation
              Quote: seasoned
              There are never a lot of AWACS

              What prevents the placement of 4 small AWAKSA (Hawkai) on the coastal bases?
              1. +7
                3 September 2013 17: 25
                Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                And here it is ??

                The dispute is about nothing. You are trying to prove that the aircraft carrier was just a "scarecrow", I am trying to prove to you that the AUG is a serious force to be reckoned with. In the USSR, tactics of dealing with AUGs were worked out and forces were envisaged for this and it was assumed that the losses would not be small ... Do you think there were dropouts in the General Staff of the USSR?
                The war in Kuwait is a separate issue. There, the Yankees themselves and the Yankees incited, however, this is a separate issue that is not related to this topic.
                The fact that Americans love to pile up in a flock is no secret to anyone, hence the expectation and negotiations with the allies.
                I stop all the argument, as hopeless. hi There has already been a lot of controversy on the site about the sinking of the AUG and what it will "cost", I see no reason to translate the topic into another "serial" dispute hi
                1. +4
                  3 September 2013 17: 43
                  Quote: seasoned
                  I’m trying to prove to you that AUG is a serious force to be reckoned with.

                  In this case, it is the SCARROW and nothing else. The pressure element.
                  Quote: seasoned
                  . In the USSR, tactics of combating the AUGs were worked out and forces were envisaged for this, and it was assumed that the losses would not be small ... Do you think the dropouts were in the General Staff of the USSR?

                  Well, what can I say the USSR is a global war, but unfortunately the projects to combat the AUGs were a waste of time, although one cannot recognize that the AUG as a defender of transoceanic convoys was more significant for the USSR than striking power against the coastal objects of the continental USSR.
                  1. +1
                    3 September 2013 17: 51
                    Quote: Kars
                    Although one cannot recognize that the AUG as a defender of transoceanic convoys was more significant for the USSR than striking power against the coastal objects of the continental USSR.

                    What and where are you going to carry after the thermonuclear war?

                    Even in Clancy’s version, it wouldn’t solve anything, the tanks will get to Rotterdam, Hamburg and Lisbon much faster than American weapons transports
                    1. +2
                      3 September 2013 18: 02
                      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                      What and where are you going to carry after the thermonuclear war?

                      Well, thermonuclear war, that’s said too much. About Clancy, he’s the storyteller.
                      I can also come up with a couple of tales - about missile defense systems that will change the totality of nuclear war, about nuclear special forces that will blow up mines with ICBMs, about the lack of determination to press a button.

                      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                      tanks get to Rotterdam, Hamburg and Lisbon much faster than American weapons transports
                      Well, this is only on the maps of Soviet marshals, and there already as a card will fall.
                      1. +1
                        3 September 2013 18: 11
                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, this is only on the maps of Soviet marshals, and there already as a card will fall.

                        In any case, tanks and SA will be in close proximity to the English Channel and the North. seas faster than the Yankees have time to collect, load and deliver serious reinforcements

                        Secondly, there is no need to catch transports in the open ocean, they somehow crawl to the shore, on which there is a tough battle

                        Thirdly, if you imagine that the Yankees will start to bring equipment and weapons in advance ... then what role will the AUGs play? Who would dare to strike in peacetime?

                        Fourth, where does the AUG need anti-submarine frigates Perry and FRAM?
                      2. +1
                        3 September 2013 18: 17
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        In any case, tanks and SA will be in close proximity to the English Channel and the North. seas faster than the Yankees have time to collect, load and deliver serious reinforcements

                        Well, ships can be loaded and begin the journey to the first shot. We cannot imagine that the USSR will be the first to attack, unexpectedly, and so on.
                        Both the English Channel and the North Sea do not limit possible theaters of operations.

                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        Secondly, there is no need to catch transports in the open ocean, they somehow crawl to the shore, on which there is a tough battle
                        in general, it’s the most delicious thing to catch a convoy in the sea, when it’s lucky it can’t bite. Moreover, every tall tank or infantryman will throw firewood into a cruel battle.


                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        Thirdly, if you imagine that the Yankees will start to bring equipment and weapons in advance ... then what role will the AUGs play? Who would dare to strike in peacetime?

                        The one who got involved in the war
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        fourth, where does the AUG need anti-submarine frigates Perry and FRAM?

                        These are also not a hindrance, and the aircraft carrier will still be out of place. It is hard for him to refuse effectiveness in the middle of the ocean.
                      3. -2
                        3 September 2013 18: 29
                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, ships can be loaded and begin the journey to the first shot. We cannot imagine that the USSR will be the first to attack, unexpectedly, and so on.

                        third item
                        Then where does the AUG? transports follow alone in peacetime
                        Quote: Kars
                        Both the English Channel and the North Sea do not limit possible theaters of operations.

                        Again Saxophone, Barack and the landing in Cape Town))
                        Quote: Kars
                        it's the most delicious catch convoy in the sea

                        What am I talking about?
                        Offshore, he will fall into the area of ​​the Air Force
                        Quote: Kars
                        Here it is hard for him to refuse effectiveness in the middle of the ocean.

                        Where could an air enemy come from in the middle of the ocean?
                        Tu-22M with missiles will not reach
                        Tu-95? it will knock down an air defense convoy
                        + fighter barriers from the airfields of Norway, Iceland and the Faroe Islands

                        After all, Nimitz is not needed for such scenarios. Enough for the eyes of a ship the size of Arc Royal or Midway
                      4. +1
                        3 September 2013 18: 38
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        ? transports follow alone in peacetime

                        This is not a time of peace. After the start of mobilization - you can’t hide it from separation.
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        Again Saxophone, Barack and the landing in Cape Town))

                        Cape Town Casablanca, Castile,
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        Offshore, he will fall into the area of ​​the Air Force

                        And why in your equation the coast is hostile to the AUG, and there the alliance troops have not dug in and do not provide air defense.
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        Where could an air enemy come from in the middle of the ocean?

                        Well, why exactly the planes? And the SSSR cruisers? Destroyers of the submarine. Why did the USSR keep its squadrons at the devil's pockets.
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        After all, Nimitz is not needed for such scenarios. Enough for the eyes of a ship the size of Arc Royal or Midway
                        Nimitz may not be needed, but it was built and it looks cooler.
                      5. -5
                        3 September 2013 18: 51
                        Quote: Kars
                        And why in your equation the coast is hostile to the AUG, and there the alliance troops have not dug in and do not provide air defense.

                        "Coast" - a narrow strip between advancing tank wedges and the cold sea.
                        In my opinion, the situation is good enough to drown transports crawling towards La Rochelle with the help of the Su-17
                        Quote: Kars
                        And the cruisers of the USSR? Destroyers

                        Dying under the blows of Los Angeles
                        Like once Japanese squadrons
                        Quote: Kars
                        submarines

                        AUG here with?
                        Quote: Kars
                        Why did the USSR keep its squadrons on the hell on pies.

                        So that airplanes from Sigonella, Souda Bay and the Spanish Company sunk them in a minute
                        Quote: Kars
                        and he looks cooler.

                        San Diego Midway is no less magnificent
                      6. +3
                        3 September 2013 18: 57
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        "Coast" - a narrow strip between advancing tank wedges and the cold sea.

                        It is possible that the narrowness in km 300-400
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        Dying under the blows of Los Angeles

                        Well, this is a difficult combination, who will die from whom, whether they will be able to break through to transport, etc.
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        AUG here with?

                        So just in case, the Vikings are there, Hokai and so on.
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        So that airplanes from Sigonella, Souda Bay and the Spanish Company sunk them in a minute

                        Well, is that really all ocean bases?
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        San Diego Midway is no less magnificent
                        It’s not for me to judge, but isn’t Nimitz about the same thing, just me as a nuclear reactor?
                      7. 0
                        3 September 2013 19: 17
                        Quote: Kars
                        It is possible that the narrowness in km 300-400

                        Tu-22M
                        MiG-25RB
                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, this is a difficult combination, who will die from whom, whether they will be able to break through to transport, etc.

                        Well, this is complicated - 38 stagens, 62 moose + allies
                        and this is against a dozen RRC Navy of the USSR
                        Quote: Kars
                        So just in case, the Vikings are there, Hokai and so on.

                        Oh well, there are a lot of basic Orions, each destroyer has a pair of turntables
                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, is that really all ocean bases?

                        Transfer?)))
                        Quote: Kars
                        It’s not for me to judge, but isn’t Nimitz about the same thing, just me as a nuclear reactor?

                        It seems not. It is a little shorter and much narrower (in / and 60 000 tons), 2 catapults instead of 4 on the nimitz, 3 elevators instead of 4, it’s easier to radar and the whole stuffing, ordinary GEM
                      8. +1
                        3 September 2013 19: 44
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        Tu-22M
                        MiG-25RB

                        Well, you yourself remember the NATO and US fighter interceptors, I'm not special.
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        Well, this is complicated - 38 stagens, 62 moose + allies
                        and this is against a dozen RRC Navy of the USSR

                        But why write off Soviet submarines? There will be such a mess, especially if, in anticipation of a big boom, all-inclusive diesel engines will receive special ammunition.
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        Oh well, there are a lot of basic Orions, each destroyer has a pair of turntables

                        Then I don’t know, maybe not enough,
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        Transfer?)))

                        If you want, it’s just not the fact that at that moment no matter how brave the special forces will not plant a nuclear mine.
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        It seems not. It is a little shorter and much narrower (in / and 60 000 tons), 2 catapults instead of 4 on the nimitz, 3 elevators instead of 4, it’s easier to radar and the whole stuffing, ordinary GEM

                        Simply put, it’s about the same thing, only a little more and even more so with the Nuclear Reactor, then it was fashionable. Even a couple of merchant ships were equipped with a nuclear power plant.
                      9. 0
                        3 September 2013 20: 12
                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, you yourself remember the NATO and US fighter interceptors, I'm not special.

                        MiG Escort

                        ha! ... mining of ports and unloading places
                        Quote: Kars
                        But why write off Soviet submarines? There will be such a mess, especially if, in anticipation of a big boom, all-inclusive diesel engines will receive special ammunition.

                        AUG is to do with it?)))
                        Quote: Kars
                        If you want, it’s just not the fact that at that moment no matter how brave the special forces will not plant a nuclear mine.

                        If nuclear weapons are used, not far from trouble. Even if 10% of warheads erupt on each side, there will be a star and the death of all living things from radiation and the cold of eternal winter
                        Quote: Kars
                        Simply put, it’s about the same thing, just a little more

                        And several times more expensive. And most importantly - fuck 10 ??? + 10 old people Midway, Kittihokov, etc.
                        The Yankees at the Reagan window went roof
                        Quote: Kars
                        Even a couple of three merchant ships were equipped with a nuclear power plant.

                        That was before, before the Nimitsev. 1960s
                        American "Savannah", German "Otto Gun", Japanese "Mutsu"
                      10. +1
                        3 September 2013 19: 46
                        ahah I’ll write not in the subject, but I registered on the site because of these two people .. more precisely because of their disputes)) are so infectious
                      11. +4
                        3 September 2013 22: 57
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        there is no need to catch transports in the open ocean, they somehow crawl to the shore, on which there is a tough battle

                        Oleg, a writer and historian of the fleet, you are good, but a tactician and operator have not yet grown out of you. This is by the way, no offense! And then they cost me 50% rating. (joke!)
                        On business. Convoy (KON) or landing squad (DesO) at sea is guarded by a mobile PLO zone (PLC, AB PLO, BPA, pla). At the passage by the sea, you can find holes in the defense, to connect part of the forces with the battle, etc. TR, DC will remain unprotected, you can attack the KR, TO, even Mine weapons. There is TIME to complete the task of routing KOH, DesO (disruption of transportation). When approaching the landing zone, a ZONE (!) PLO of the landing is created, the forces of the OVR base are operating: GAS, MO, KPUGi, UAV, and so on - everything is massed in a limited area of ​​the water area, usually shallow for submarine operations. Do you catch the difference? And then: there is no reserve TIME for a long fire impact on the ships KON, DesO.
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        where does AUG if you need anti-submarine frigates Perry and FRAM?

                        Yes, they are needed. But the AVU will easily turn (if necessary) into a Protiloodochny (why not !?) if 2 Viking squads, a bunch of Sea Kings and other equipment of the LEMPS-3 system are put on it, with a bunch of GABs, anti-submarine aircraft. torpedoes.
                      12. +1
                        3 September 2013 23: 03
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        Oleg, a writer and historian of the fleet, you are good, but a tactician and operator have not yet grown out of you. This is by the way, no offense! And then they cost me 50% rating. (joke!)

                        Alexander, hi Well, just "in the top ten"! I noticed a long time ago that we have a lot of thoughts that coincide, but this expression is yours just 100% with mine drinks
                        He writes well and knows how to select materials, but how he "rests" in front of the "new gate", it is just right to avoid disputes request
                      13. +1
                        4 September 2013 01: 33
                        Quote: seasoned
                        He writes well and knows how to select materials, but how he "rests" in front of the "new gate", it is just right to avoid disputes

                        Alexey, I read Oleg's comments below on the thread. You know, you (can you call a like-minded person on "you"?) Are absolutely right. These are costs ... of character. Plus high self-esteem (grief from the mind). I think he will forgive us for this friendly criticism. IMHO.
                      14. 0
                        4 September 2013 00: 23
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        And then they cost me 50% of the rating. (joke!)

                        I have not yet entered such power. NEMA rating)))
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        guarded by a mobile PLO zone (PLC, AV PLO, BPA, PL)

                        What does Nimitz have to do with it?

                        Here, ships with GAS and PLUR are required, basic Orions are needed, LAMPS III turntables are needed (a pair on each Burke, Spruence and Perry)
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        When approaching the landing zone, a ZONE (!) Landing PLO is created

                        What does Nimitz have to do with it?
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        But the AVU will easily turn (if necessary) into a Protiloodochny (why not !?) if 2 Viking squads, a bunch of Sea Kings and other equipment of the LEMPS-3 system are put on it, with a bunch of GABs, anti-submarine aircraft. torpedoes.

                        Any destroyer or frigate can do this.
                        Viking - what does it matter in a situation where the sky is buzzing from the Nimrods and Orions

                        Moreover, nothing more reliable than GAS with PLUR has not yet been invented. The same helicopter - Andrey Chelyabinets mentioned that the maximum use of a helicopter with "snot" in a storm is 5 points (which, however, is logical - hydroacoustics is a capricious thing). And 5 points in the Atlantic are regular
                      15. +3
                        3 September 2013 22: 27
                        Quote: Kars
                        .About Clancy - this is the storyteller.

                        I agree. But "Red Storm" (another name is "Red Tide"), based on a fragment of the defeat of the AUS NATO (USA + France), Clancey wrote from documents obtained from our General Staff. This same tactic was incorporated into the stimulator that Anapolis cadets trained on. So, a fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it, good fellows - a lesson!
                  2. +4
                    3 September 2013 21: 03
                    Quote: Kars
                    In this case, it is the SCARROW and nothing else. The pressure element.

                    Here, Andrey, I would argue. This is an effective lever for projecting the force, its strengthening, the command center.
                    1. +2
                      3 September 2013 21: 06
                      Quote: Pimply
                      It is an effective force projection lever.

                      The same eggs look in profile - projecting force == scarecrow.
                      Quote: Pimply
                      command center

                      if I’m not mistaken, a command center has already arrived in Turkey.
                    2. Alex 241
                      +1
                      3 September 2013 21: 12
                      Zhen here, I agree with Kars.
                2. p-159
                  0
                  3 September 2013 18: 01
                  probably no 40 tanks is a threat and 0000 planes are not. well, tanks hit planes when they are at the airport
                3. +5
                  3 September 2013 21: 02
                  Oleg, as always, excludes the aircraft carrier from everything - from the aircraft carrier group, from the flexibility of using and strengthening the group, from the fact that it is the command and organizational center, and presents it as a kind of abandoned and abandoned unit
                  1. -1
                    4 September 2013 00: 30
                    Quote: Pimply
                    from the carrier group

                    Where did you, Zhenya, see me giving up on Berks and submarines.
                    They are needed, they are and always will be, and we are discussing the carrier wafer
                    Quote: Pimply
                    he is the command and organizational center

                    Well it is necessary.
                    A handful of staff can’t work in the AJC destroyer BIC, give them an aircraft carrier 100 tons!

                    Aegis Cruiser Ticonderoga
        3. 0
          3 September 2013 22: 18
          Quote: seasoned
          I would also remind you that, unlike the "scarecrow", an aircraft carrier can itself "dig up the entire field with the harvest." A scarecrow is a harmless horror story, but here a "scarecrow" with an escort and an air wing ...
          Again AWACS aircraft winked


          Maybe of course. But they work mainly with air bases. It is corny cheaper and simpler. A lot of reasons. And the strike group take off, pack up much faster. And the supply of ammunition and fuel without troubles. Characteristics of AWACS can be google. In aircraft carriers, patrol times (without refueling) are three times less, and in terms of target detection range they are also naturally inferior.
          1. MG42
            +3
            3 September 2013 22: 33
            Quote: aviator_IAS
            Trite cheaper and easier

            Bases are rented from foreign countries. The airspace above their territory may be closed.
            AUG just power projection if the <intractable sheikh> refuses to grant his territory <open the sky>, besides neutral waters for that, and "neutral" nothing prevents from approaching the combat area to launch tomahawks from destroyers, the air wing not only strikes but also covers ships if anything, the air wing raised the task of the aircraft carrier = the "scarecrow" fulfilled ..
            AUGs are self-sufficient, in addition, an AUS can be created in case of war, there are still a couple of submarines of hunters in the squad ..

            And to consider green candy wrappers in the bottomless pockets of Uncle Sam = smut they only need to once again raise the bar of their public debt

            Launching tomahawks from an American destroyer
          2. 0
            4 September 2013 00: 33
            Quote: aviator_IAS
            Characteristics of AWACS can be google. In aircraft carriers, patrol times (without refueling) are three times less, and in terms of target detection range they are also naturally inferior.

            The mass of electronics on board the E-3 Sentry EXCEEDs the take-off mass of the deck Hawke

            Sentry's crew includes 20-30 operators and liaison officers. E-2 Hawkai - 3 operators
      2. -4
        3 September 2013 16: 29
        And why did you start up like that, immediately post 2 comments?)) And in each he told trivial nonsense from advertising booklets and the Discovery channel
        Quote: MG42
        Well, for some reason, all the time they participate in evil operations ..

        You probably wanted to say: they come to gawk and wave their little fists
        1. MG42
          +5
          3 September 2013 16: 52
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          Why are you so wound up

          I no, you thought sweet <sweet> laughing
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          2 comments posted?)

          Four on this thread, now 5 ..
          Quote: seasoned
          And in each he told trivial nonsense from advertising booklets and the Discovery channel

          Along the way, only you started up with stupid things from Disneyland ..
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          You probably wanted to say: they come to gawk and wave their little fists

          Yes, AUG has <small fists>, no comment here ..
          1. 0
            3 September 2013 17: 10
            Quote: MG42
            Four on this thread, now 5 ..

            Naughty boy under the window
            Smeared the entire wall gov by
            Teenage pranks
            Although they smack them with a belt!
            Quote: MG42
            Yes, AUG has <small fists>, no comment here ..

            The little beggar Iraq was beaten in six. Result - 17% of flights from the Coalition Air Force
            And Iraq, by the way, was never defeated - I had to finish it in 2003
            1. MG42
              +7
              3 September 2013 17: 27
              Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
              Naughty boy under the window
              Gov smeared all over the wall
              Teenage pranks
              Although they smack them with a belt!

              You are not Lermontov, not Pushkin, but a simple poet Zvizdyushkin .. What offended for Sweet Sweet? Sorry laughing just translated from English ..
              SIXTEEN is age?
              Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
              The little beggar Iraq was beaten in six.

              Well, about the beggar of Iraq at that time, one can argue, Iraq is far from being a beggar in terms of oil reserves, but there were Hussein’s palaces with golden plumbing, the weapons are of course old ..
              The rest has already been discussed on another thread.
              The palace of Saddam Hussein is located on a hill, in the immediate vicinity of the ruins of Babylon. Numerous fountains and pools, beautiful views of the Tigris River, magnificent furniture inlaid with gold, gold-plated door handles and plumbing - all this makes the Palace of the former dictator an attractive investment destination.
            2. MG42
              +1
              4 September 2013 01: 51
              By the way, SWEET, you seem to be rummaging around in English, there is a song = baby happy birthday. laughing Everything is there with titles .. >>
          2. p-159
            0
            3 September 2013 18: 02
            yes, probably
    5. +7
      3 September 2013 16: 10
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      The Yankees have control over the entire infrastructure of Iraq, there is an opportunity to deploy aircraft in Jordan, perhaps the participation of the Israeli Air Force
      Hundreds, if not thousands of combat aircraft and turntables - what in this case means 40-50 Nimitz sub-aircraft? Nothing

      Iraq and Jordan have closed their airspace to attack Syria. The United States may spit on it, but it makes no sense. The blow will come from the sea, with axes, and from bases in Turkey.
      As for the AUG, the main striking force will be not the aircraft carrier itself, but its escort.
      1. +1
        3 September 2013 16: 23
        Quote: Odyssey
        As for the AUG, the main striking force will be not the aircraft carrier itself, but its escort.

        not a fact

        USS Georgia and USS Florida, US Navy nuclear submarine missile launchers, have arrived in the eastern Mediterranean, each carrying up to 22 Tomahawks in 154 silos

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/9098130/Explainer-How-the-US-would-atta

        ck-syria
        1. +1
          3 September 2013 16: 50
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          not a fact
          USS Georgia and USS Florida, the US Navy's nuclear-powered missile launchers, have arrived in the eastern Mediterranean, each carrying up to 22 Tomahawks in 154 silos.

          No, I'm not talking about the Mediterranean group (everything is clear with her), I'm talking about the AUG. I don’t know if the Super Hornets will be used, but the tomahawks from the escort ships will definitely go.
          On the Turkish side, the Turks themselves and the planes from the Incirlika are most likely (although de Bouillon claims to be empty)
          Well, also the French from Djibouti and Abu Dhabi will be noted (although it is not entirely clear through whose airspace they will go).
          1. +1
            3 September 2013 17: 05
            Quote: Odyssey
            I don’t know if they will use SuperHornets

            Will be. Only their contribution against the backdrop of the Air Force will be insignificant
            Quote: Odyssey
            but the tomahawks from escort ships will definitely go.

            In this sense one "Florida" is worth three destroyers "Burke"
        2. Alex 241
          0
          3 September 2013 17: 37
          Oleg, if I’m not mistaken, these special operations control boats, with autonomous devices for landing sabotage groups.
          1. Alex 241
            +1
            3 September 2013 17: 45
            .....................................
          2. +1
            3 September 2013 18: 15
            Quote: Alex 241
            Oleg, if I’m not mistaken, these special operations control boats, with autonomous devices for landing sabotage groups.

            Former SSBNs "Ohio", "Florida", "Michigan", "Georgia"

            2 mines (lock chambers) for combat swimmers + Dry Deck Shelter + rooms for 6 dozens of special forces

            And Tomahawks, - 22 mines, 7 in each

            Florida sluice km
        3. +1
          3 September 2013 19: 26
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          USS Georgia and USS Florida arrive in eastern Mediterranean

          Good afternoon Oleg, fighting again ... Honestly, it bothers me, do you need Nimitz for hell in the Red Sea? If you strike, then from the Mediterranean, will your shoulder be smaller?
          Now about the use of airfields. As far as I understand, Jordan did not allow the use of its sky, Israel is likely to be against it, so as not to incur unnecessary troubles on itself. Remains Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Those. in this case, aircraft carriers will not be redundant.
    6. Strong
      +3
      3 September 2013 17: 32
      // if not thousands //

      Take it higher. Dr. Kaptsov, as always, is poetic.

      While no one was going to attract tactical aircraft. By cr. least the main organizer of the play is the USA.
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    8. +3
      3 September 2013 18: 00
      I think they won’t go through Iraq so as not to tempt Iran, but no one will ask Lebanon, there is no air defense at all ...
      But to Latakia and Damascus, just a stone's throw, and Assad has nothing more now ... A strike with cruise missiles from the sea is convenient both militarily and politically, but the air wing of the nemice can only be useful for electronic warfare and radio-television.
    9. 0
      3 September 2013 20: 40
      Nimitz’s non-aircraft, of course, do not solve anything. The tomahawks located on the destroyers and the cruiser escorting this aircraft carrier are much more likely to solve. And most likely, only cruise missiles will be hit, so as not to substitute aircraft under Syrian air defense.
      1. 0
        3 September 2013 20: 54
        Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
        The tomahawks located on the destroyers and the cruiser escorting this aircraft carrier are much more likely to solve.

        The bulk of the Axes is on submarines that have nothing to do with Nimits and AUG (converted Ohio SSBNs)
        1. 0
          3 September 2013 20: 59
          Not the fact that more. In Iraq, more than half were issued from destroyers, mainly from the Spruyens.
          1. +1
            3 September 2013 21: 05
            Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
            Not the fact that more. In Iraq, more than half were issued from destroyers, mainly from the Spruyens.

            Iraq was 10 and 20 years ago
            Last Spruance decommissioned in 2006

            Each boat carries 3 times more SLCMs than the destroyer - up to 154 pieces
            1. +1
              3 September 2013 21: 17
              Actually, the Spryuans were replaced by Orly Berkov performing almost the same function. But it’s useless to argue with you, so I suggest just waiting a bit and seeing what and how it will be. And most likely it won't be long to wait. I bet the least there will be launches from submarines.
              1. 0
                4 September 2013 00: 34
                Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
                Actually, Orly Berkov was set up to replace the Sprouts

                Even in the shock variant (56 axes) - Burke's ammunition is three times less than that of the Ohio submarine + multipurpose Los Angeles - 12 UVP + Tomahawks instead of part of the torpedo ammunition
      2. +3
        3 September 2013 23: 30
        Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
        Nimitz nonsamoletics of course do not solve anything

        Respected! They solve absolutely all the tasks that the connection command poses before them. 8t bomb load - this is not a pound of raisins from a roll to dig!
        1. 0
          4 September 2013 00: 36
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          before them puts the command connection. 8t bomb load - this is not a pound of raisins to pick from a roll!

          8 tons is when operating with an AERODROM
          he will not lift six tons from the ship.
          1. +3
            4 September 2013 01: 16
            Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
            8 tons, it will not lift six tons under the action from the AERODROM from the ship.

            Raises, only the combat radius decreases, and therefore hang 7030kg.
            And so: • The following characteristics correspond to the F / A-18E modification:
            Cannon: 1 × six-barreled 20 mm upgraded gun M61A1 Volcano of reduced weight, ammunition 570 cartridges
            Knots of an external suspension: 11
            Combat load: 8 051 kg of various weapons.
            http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_F/A-18E/F_Super_Hornet#
    10. -1
      3 September 2013 20: 54
      In this operation, the participation of the Israeli Air Force is impossible.
      1. +2
        3 September 2013 23: 42
        Quote: Pimply
        In this operation, the participation of the Israeli Air Force is impossible

        Eugene, explain the idea. I don’t understand something: is it the Air Force or the Armed Forces?
        1. +1
          3 September 2013 23: 44
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Eugene, explain the idea. I don’t understand something: is it the Air Force or the Armed Forces?

          The Israeli Air Force today participated in the launch of supposedly targets in the direction of Syria wink
          1. 0
            4 September 2013 00: 55
            Israeli air defense, you wanted to say
        2. 0
          4 September 2013 00: 56
          And those and others. Otherwise, the Americans will collapse and so very shaky coalition.
          1. +1
            4 September 2013 01: 19
            Pimply
            Now it is clear. Apparently, not to tease all the Arabian geese. Thank.
  12. +7
    3 September 2013 15: 32
    where are our diving fans in the red sea? mine in their hands, and let them rest profitably wassat
    1. p-159
      -1
      3 September 2013 18: 13
      probably not a joke
      1. +1
        3 September 2013 18: 16
        Quote: p-159
        probably not a joke

        ".............no kidding
        the world would be just creepy "
  13. Peaceful military
    +3
    3 September 2013 15: 36
    The target, of course, is beautiful, but there is no one to shoot at it yet. So, for now, as they say, "there is no reception against scrap, if there is no other scrap."
    Russia, you need a real "scrap" against theirs "scrap", otherwise, as Stalin said: "We will be crushed."
    1. +3
      3 September 2013 15: 44
      Quote: Peaceful military
      you need a real "scrap"

      there is still scrap (Soviet, killer-reliable), but to use it, it will need WILL ...
      1. Peaceful military
        +3
        3 September 2013 15: 50
        The will not only to apply, but also the WILL to ensure this application, both within the country of the country and outside it. And most importantly, that it should be clear to everyone that this is and will always be, inevitably, etc.
        So yes, Andrey, WILL, WILL and again WILL. soldier
        1. 0
          3 September 2013 17: 17
          laughing again you want to arrange kirdyk around the world?))))
          1. series
            +2
            3 September 2013 17: 59
            Quote: lonely
            again you want to arrange kirdyk around the world?))))

            well, not everything! wink
            but, it would be a dream to cook a vigorous yushka from Amer AUG-pp in the Red and Mediterranean Seas ... lol
            It is a pity that the American victims of the country are always waiting to be killed ... and none of them are the first to actively break the attack scenario!
            1. +1
              4 September 2013 00: 18
              Quote: S-200
              American victims, countries are always waiting to be killed ... and none of them are the first to actively break the attack scenario!

              And did they try to appeal to common sense, the last hope? No? That is, you think that it is not enough to be a "victim country", you also need to give the aggressor a trump card so that he can get out of the water, declaring you an aggressor who has committed an "unmotivated attack." And the UN and the singers from NATA will arrange it in such a way that a nickname like "Evil Empire" will seem to you like babble of love.
          2. p-159
            0
            3 September 2013 18: 25
            yes probably we are azm esm
        2. +1
          4 September 2013 00: 06
          Quote: Peaceful military
          WILL, WILL and once again WILL.

          At one time they said: "With a fool you can break (something)." On this occasion, V.S. Vysotsky wrote very accurately: "Will to will - roz, if the forces are not in the turn, And I got carried away ..."
          You can throw a bubble, but will you just do it later? Laurels of a nuclear Herostratus do not give rest? Then you should see a psychiatrist, sir.
    2. +1
      3 September 2013 23: 57
      Quote: Peaceful military
      The target, of course, is beautiful, but there is no one to shoot at it yet. Russia, you need a real "scrap" against theirs "scrap",

      Well with the target, you got excited. Pick up the materials on the defense of AVU (AUG). And about the "scrap" is also not the topic: the submarines of plARK pr. 949, 949A were created. There were also air divisions TU-22M2, TU-22M3. Believe me, and now they do not go unattended. If the hunter is not visible, this does not mean that he is not nearby. Yes, and the control center began to improve. I'm talking about Liana.
  14. Alex 241
    +7
    3 September 2013 15: 47
    Andrei we have a "scrap" and what kind of nuclear submarine 949A "Antey", the guys from "KURSK" eternal memory to them, I remember such a rustle made, the whole Pentagon was on the ears.
    1. +1
      3 September 2013 15: 51
      healthy, Sash. long time no see... drinks after all, I collected, modified, and still did all the crap for the loaves of gk. so I'm in the know
      1. Alex 241
        +4
        3 September 2013 15: 53
        Be healthy Andrey, our "loaf" is not for everyone's teeth.
        1. 0
          3 September 2013 15: 56
          Quote: Alex 241
          our "loaf" is not for everyone's teeth.

          at I know. vitality and noiselessness are beyond praise. but typhoons feel sorry ... crying
    2. Peaceful military
      0
      3 September 2013 16: 30
      Hi Sasha! hi
      There are some they are, or rather what is left of them, and there is something else, and what? Like in that song "We have such devices, but we won't tell you about them."
      The namesake correctly noted above - WILL. And she is not in anything. We hope that not yet ...
    3. Stalinets
      0
      4 September 2013 02: 05
      For this they killed him .....
  15. +3
    3 September 2013 15: 59
    power is not necessary to mind (usa) !!! This is just the case, but only we have moderate power and judging by what is happening mind. Who will win????
  16. +4
    3 September 2013 16: 04
    Very touching comments like: "and it would be Yakhontami, yes it would be Klabami, yes submarines, but to the bottom of it." Dreaming is not harmful. In the days of the USSR, they would not have done this, and now even more so.
    1. MG42
      +3
      3 September 2013 16: 11
      Quote: Sharingan
      Dreaming is not harmful. In the days of the USSR, they wouldn’t do that, but now even more so.

      As for daydreaming >>
      There was one detonation of a powerful nuclear weapon near the Bikini Atoll in 1946 = the impact of the damaging factors of a nuclear explosion on the grouping of ships ..
      1. Veles25
        0
        3 September 2013 16: 35
        .................
      2. Veles25
        +1
        3 September 2013 16: 36
        .................
    2. +3
      4 September 2013 00: 29
      Quote: Sharingan
      In the days of the USSR, they wouldn’t do that, but now even more so.

      Lord, I finally heard the voice of reason, and not BBBBBBB cheers-patriotic!
      People! Politics is the art of the possible, taking into account the nuances, shades, all "ties and balances", especially external. And you are a "crowbar!"
      PS. The situation is reminiscent of the fight "fly" with the heavyweight world champion.
  17. +1
    3 September 2013 16: 11
    Yes, even if at least 10 aircraft carriers are collected, the main blow will not be from them. They will not scare Syria, but our Navy. Although they will definitely be given practice.
    1. +3
      4 September 2013 00: 33
      Quote: Marconi41
      They will not scare Syria, but our Navy.

      Oh oh! Do you believe in what you wrote? I understand the Navy of the USSR, sample of the 1980 of the year, at least. Well, now? They do not have a military intelligence?
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  19. de bouillon
    +2
    3 September 2013 16: 16
    Quote: Apologet.Ru
    Club



    there is one bullshit

    AUG is real in the Red Sea, but this video is only a cartoon and has nothing to do with reality
    1. +1
      4 September 2013 00: 38
      Quote: de Bouillon
      and this video is only a cartoon and has nothing to do with reality

      Shura, you are not in the church, you will not be deceived. (with)
      On the tests was, saw, confirm! The thing is killer, fate is unenviable. Pushed on the foreign market.
  20. de bouillon
    +2
    3 September 2013 16: 19
    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
    I read your comments and fucking awesome from your naivety, gentlemen

    Quote: Canep
    Atomic Peacekeeper

    Quote: il grand casino
    Reptiles are sliding ..

    What nonsense are you talking about, dear ones. The scarecrow CVN-68 came to the Red Sea, and you, you already got excited, as if the war would begin tomorrow. Nimitz fuck there is not needed (as in other things and everywhere), he does not solve anything in the Mediterranean Sea and does not depend on him. This is an ordinary American scarecrow, designed for the townsfolk and the media sensationalist
    Preparations for war are being conducted in completely different areas and the attack will be on the other side.


    Large US Air Force Airbase Incirlik (Turkey)


    The Yankees have control over the entire infrastructure of Iraq, there is an opportunity to deploy aircraft in Jordan, perhaps the participation of the Israeli Air Force
    Hundreds, if not thousands of combat aircraft and turntables - what in this case means 40-50 Nimitz sub-aircraft? Nothing!

    Take a look at the map: what is the main threat area? Iraq, Turkey, Jordan, or 150 km "strip" of the sea?


    practically no Americans

    sequester her mother. in the avian f-16 is also fun

    so the Nimitz AUG with a ready-made air group remains the real US air force in the region.
    1. +4
      3 September 2013 16: 38
      And yes, there are none in Iraq either. Moreover, the pro-Iranian Maliki closed the airspace for the US Air Force.
      Jordan also closed the air, which was again announced yesterday, this time the king officially announced.

      Therefore, only Turkey and the sea. Israel has not really decided yet.
    2. -4
      3 September 2013 18: 54
      Quote: de Bouillon
      sequester her mother. in the avian f-16 is also fun

      so the Nimitz AUG with a ready-made air group remains the real US air force in the region.

      Wow, what meanie

      There were not enough funds for f-16, but enough for Nimitz))
      1. +1
        3 September 2013 22: 44
        Quote: de Bouillon
        practically no Americans
        The vigilant comrades there noted the E-4BS (flying Pentagon) (photo attached). And in Cyprus the other day the E-6B was valiantly noticed and two French patrol planes were moved there, two AWACS are already there. Well, for lovers of retro classics , in Cyprus the other day were seen U-2 fellow So somehow, without politeness, management and intelligence platforms are pulling into the region.
        1. +1
          3 September 2013 22: 51
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          So somehow, without politeness, management and intelligence platforms are pulling into the region.


          All this is sad ... The consequences will be terrible ...
          1. Alex 241
            +3
            3 September 2013 22: 58
            There is more interesting news. On Wednesday, car enthusiasts reported that a WC-135C Constant Phoenix was spotted in southern Britain, and later intercepted his radio exchange with a flying tanker in the Malta area. The unique WC-135C Constant Phoenix machine is designed to analyze air for radiation after a nuclear strike or disaster at a nuclear power plant. The US Air Force has two such aircraft, and they were used to analyze air during the nuclear tests of India and Pakistan, they are often used near the border with North Korea, and in 2011 the aircraft worked over Japan after the Fukushima accident. What the plane is doing in Europe now and where exactly it is heading is not yet clear. It is assumed that it may have equipment that is able to detect traces of the use of chemical weapons.
            1. +1
              3 September 2013 23: 02
              Quote: Alex 241
              It is assumed that it may have equipment that is able to detect traces of the use of chemical weapons.


              Another interesting and important confirmation of the impending aggression.
              1. Alex 241
                +3
                3 September 2013 23: 07
                300 US Marines and at least one Patriot anti-aircraft missile battery stationed in Jordan moved towards the Syrian border
  21. +1
    3 September 2013 16: 20
    Quote: Sharingan
    Very touching comments like: "and it would be Yakhontami, yes it would be Klabami, yes submarines, but to the bottom of it." Dreaming is not harmful. In the days of the USSR, they would not have done this, and now even more so.

    Yeah, and even like to shoot nafig all their planes (they’ll howl all there), as they play a computer game, there is a feeling that there are no internal brakes and awareness of the responsibility of the step taken
    1. Stalinets
      +2
      4 September 2013 02: 12
      Yugoslavia shot down more than 60 aircraft, God knows how many cruise missiles. And 400 people. No ground operation .... Dying, so with the music ...
  22. 0
    3 September 2013 16: 39
    that's exactly what you need to learn to shoot down not the current winged "axes" but also carrier-based aircraft; But to sink an aircraft carrier - this bullshit that the Syrians will not pull, and why? let him hang out in the sea; without aircraft, all aircraft carriers are just "floating stadiums"
    1. p-159
      0
      3 September 2013 18: 34
      totally agree with you
  23. bezzumec
    0
    3 September 2013 16: 40
    White House bearded man

    Who are you, Mr. B.H. Obama? The stubbornness of the American president, whispering even in an Assad must leave dream and supporting everywhere the notorious Islamist thugs who advocate a worldwide caliphate, needs not only a geopolitical understanding, but a religious interpretation. Moreover, in the interpretation of the most direct, without any sophisticated symbolism there. Last year, the White House, represented by Obama and H. Clinton, applauded while standing for the democratic election of M. Mursi to the kingdom in Egypt. Mursi, as every schoolboy now knows, although he formally departed from the activities of the Muslim Brotherhood, he remained in his heart a “brother”. It was he who called for jihad in Syria, it was his cabinet that composed the new Sharia constitution for the Egyptian Empire, it ruined his native economy and eventually created the unrest that some residents of Washington love to watch from a long distance.

    READ FULLY AND WATCH COMPROMAT PHOTOS >>> http://ord-sbu.blogspot.com
  24. 0
    3 September 2013 17: 49
    USS Princeton (CG-59) 83 onwards + an old man with experience and 50 F / A-18 ... there would be two Moscow and they will become new objects for visiting divers ....
    1. +2
      4 September 2013 00: 51
      Quote: Makarov
      there would be two Moscow and they will become new objects for visiting divers ....

      Oh ... Specify: Are you talking about the RKR "Moscow"? or?
      In general, you should be at your desk in the VMA and make you calculate the combat potentials of the "sides", and the combat stability of a single NK, even such a remarkable one as the RKR "Moskva" during its attack by air forces with the avt. After that you would see how inadvertently you were right.
  25. +2
    3 September 2013 17: 52
    So after all, Egypt threatened not to let through the Suez Canal. Therefore, "yet" do not sail to the Mediterranean Sea.
  26. 0
    3 September 2013 17: 52
    yeah, what about yachting)) I bet that they are not just 300 and they will not come close to the beegs of the sacred land for the entire 500 km
    1. 0
      3 September 2013 23: 03
      400km is also enough to protect itself from PCR. And if you think about it, an aircraft carrier isn’t alone there. Dozens of guard and support ships are next to it. Do you think the aircraft carrier is easy prey? I wouldn’t say that
  27. Backfire
    0
    3 September 2013 18: 22
    It seems that everything depends on the negotiations on September 5-6 at the G-20.
    In the meantime ...
  28. +2
    3 September 2013 19: 24
    It's time to start delivering "Yakhonts", I think you can fly a dozen containers by plane ............ target is on its way
    1. +5
      3 September 2013 19: 53
      And you can throw this target with caps. Suddenly, she will not go into the coverage of the Yakhontov - this is where we will take her ...
  29. +2
    3 September 2013 20: 45
    Now the news said that the 2 Black Sea Fleet ships advanced into the Mediterranean Sea!
    1. +1
      4 September 2013 00: 56
      Quote: alekseinew
      Now the news said that the 2 Black Sea Fleet ships advanced into the Mediterranean Sea!

      Journalists "cheated" a little: "Minsk" missile launcher - BF ship, 71 brigade battleship, Baltiysk settlement.
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  31. +1
    3 September 2013 21: 05
    [And at the expense of America, the latest opinion poll showed that 59 percent of Russians dream of living in America.


    Probably in the State Duma or in some sort of corporation a survey was conducted, the percentage goes off scale. I don’t want to go anywhere; I’d better create conditions for myself here.
    1. 0
      4 September 2013 09: 53
      So they conducted a poll in their own thoughts. I am in RUSSIA better than in their states. I was there for work, I saw their democracy and their freedoms. No longer hunting, only if they order and set goals, then with great pleasure!
  32. +1
    3 September 2013 23: 15
    The group is rather weak ...
    Perhaps they sent for a slaughter, so that later they would crush the rebellious country into powder under this brand.
  33. Stalinets
    +3
    4 September 2013 02: 09
    Well floats, to hell with her. More terrible are those people who are now setting up the beacons .. And they are there, already from 20 countries.
  34. +1
    4 September 2013 05: 38
    U.S. Navy strike group

    That is, the group you need to hit am
  35. waisson
    +1
    4 September 2013 09: 25
    five bombs to him under the keel and a torpedo in w ........... at
  36. +1
    4 September 2013 09: 46
    Oh, to drown this trough !!! I understand that this is not real, but I want it so much! Dreams sometimes come true!
  37. Vtel
    0
    4 September 2013 09: 53
    They will answer us for the Kursk - "Flurry" of torpedoes into their side!

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