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Iraq agreed to accept the next batch of Kharkiv armored personnel carriers

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Iraq agreed to accept the next batch of Kharkiv armored personnel carriers

The Ukrainian-Iraqi contract for the supply of BTR-4, manufactured at the Kharkov plant named after Malyshev, is carried out in the normal mode. This was reported to the correspondent by the deputy chairman of the Kharkiv Regional State Administration Andrei Mochenkov.


“We have sufficient optimism. Iraq agreed to accept another batch of BTR-4,” he said.

Recall that in early August, the Ukrainian media spread information about the alleged refusal of the Iraqi side to accept the next batch of BTR-4. Journalists, citing a representative of the Odessa company Varamar, which was transporting armored vehicles, reported that the Iraqis had refused to unload armored personnel carriers ashore due to the alleged cracks in the hulls. Since April, the ship has been in neutral waters near Iraq.

The contract between Ukraine and Iraq involves the supply of 450 units of BTR-4 units, which are manufactured by the Kharkov Malyshev plant. Since 2010, almost 100 units of equipment have been delivered to Iraq.
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  1. experienced
    experienced 3 September 2013 10: 46
    12
    Bugaga, finally, not even a year has passed ... wassat
    And whoever pays the forfeit to the renter of the ship, a good sum came up there while the Iraqis were "leaving" ...
    Theme for Akim and Kars, there is an opportunity to "win back" on those who "clicked" before wink
    I think that Ukrainians have become smarter (more experienced) and will now insure themselves upon delivery of equipment, stipulating reception and transmission "on the shore" hi
    1. evgenii67
      evgenii67 3 September 2013 10: 51
      +6
      Hello everyone! Perhaps it was simple at the request of amers, also at the request of amers simple was removed (or cracks disappeared (if any).
      1. clidon
        clidon 3 September 2013 20: 25
        +1
        Apparently, the Americans seemed to match these armored personnel carriers to Iraq. Therefore, the Iraqi authorities themselves are most likely responsible for the downtime.
    2. Kars
      Kars 3 September 2013 10: 52
      +6
      Quote: seasoned
      Theme for Akim and Kars,

      And what is the topic - all their remarks are predictably indecent.
      It will just be interesting what they hunted down there in Mumbai, and how the Indians liked the BTR-4 there.
    3. Akim
      Akim 3 September 2013 11: 18
      +8
      Quote: seasoned
      And whoever will pay the forfeit to the renter of the ship, there was a good amount of money while the Iraqis were "leaving"

      No one will pay the tenant. Will pay the owner. And the amount is almost a million dollars. This is if the owner does not sue that the ship was still somewhere in the contract and had to cancel the contract.
    4. experienced
      experienced 3 September 2013 11: 36
      +1
      This was reported to the correspondent by the deputy chairman of the Kharkov Regional State Administration Andrey Mochenkov.

      “We have enough optimism. Iraq agreed to accept the next batch of BTR-4", - he said.

      I rummaged in the search engines, only Mochenkov's words and only that everything is in the normal mode and as far as I understand he says that the Iraqis do not refuse to accept the "next" batch of armored personnel carriers.
      What happens to previously sent shrouded in mystery ...
      Mochenkov is an official and he will say what is beneficial to his enterprise. I recall Azarov's statements on the gas issue, when he also said "everything is decided", while in Moscow they said "we know nothing."
      So we are waiting for messages about an armored personnel carrier consignment, which have already been sent, but supposedly not accepted by the Iraqi side, and I think that now Ukrainians will hand in armored personnel carriers before loading and sending to the customer ... hi
    5. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 3 September 2013 14: 06
      -1
      Like who? The European Union of course! Ukraine accepts a "declaration of intent" with him? Iraq accepts this ... well ... the Ukrainian armored personnel carriers as they are.
  2. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 3 September 2013 10: 49
    +2
    They persuaded all the same ..)) which is not surprising Ukraine will soon be "its own" on the board
  3. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 3 September 2013 10: 57
    +1
    Given that the ship that transports them from the 19th is in Mumbai (India). And the shipowner agrees to unload the cargo for his arrest and subsequent sale under the hammer (To recover costs for almost 5 months of work). All this news of pure water is capitalization for the domestic consumer.
    An international site with trackers of all the world's ships.
    shipfinder
    Vessel SE PACIFICA
    It has been standing there since 19.08.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX. It’s also known that the ship did not unload its cargo in Iraq, and then they will post that Iraq has received armored personnel carriers in India and is now racking its brains on how to send them home ...)).
    "We have sufficient optimism. Iraq has agreed to accept the next batch of BTR-4,"

    Yours! hi
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 3 September 2013 11: 04
      +6
      quote-The Ukrainian-Iraqi contract for the supply of BTR-4, manufactured at the Malyshev Kharkiv plant, is carried out as usual.

      named after Malyshev or all the same Morozov ?!


      1. wlad59
        wlad59 3 September 2013 11: 39
        +4
        Design KB Morozov, pr-in the plant them. Malysheva (both Kharkov)
    2. Kars
      Kars 3 September 2013 11: 21
      +2
      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
      It’s also known that the ship did not unload its cargo in Iraq,

      How is this known?
      1. smiths xnumx
        smiths xnumx 3 September 2013 11: 28
        +1
        Show the photo-video of the BTR-4 unloading evidence from the SE PACIFICA ship in Iraq, or demonstrate the photo-video of the BTR-4 evidence from the third batch, which was loaded onto the specified ship in Odessa this March in the Iraqi Armed Forces, and for now the main phrase:
        "We have enough optimism ...
        1. Kars
          Kars 3 September 2013 11: 31
          +4
          Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
          Show photo video

          Show the APC on the ship, are you following him?

          Isn't that Mumbai by chance?
          1. Akim
            Akim 3 September 2013 11: 38
            +4
            Quote: Kars
            Isn't that Mumbai by chance?

            Andrey, this is an old photo. Its first mention dates back to the 2010th. And you Roman a comment. Photos are not proof. It's like Americans with chemical weapons.
            1. smiths xnumx
              smiths xnumx 3 September 2013 11: 44
              +4
              Dear Akim, in order not to be unfounded:
              So, back in February 2012, the head of the State Financial Inspection Pyotr Andreev said that the money that was allocated for the revision of armored personnel carriers, taking into account the requirements of NATO, the former leadership of the "Kharkiv Morozov Machine-Building Design Bureau" sent to a deposit in a commercial bank. The founder of this credit and financial institution was the director of the design bureau himself, and his son was the head of the bank. In addition, the State Financial Inspection established that the money was placed at an unfavorable interest, and the work that was supposed to finance was not carried out.

              "The contract for the supply of armored personnel carriers BTR-4 to Iraq was on the verge of collapse due to the actions of the former management of the state-owned enterprise" Kharkiv Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering named after Morozov, "which is part of the State Concern Ukroboronprom, - said Andreev ...
              ... Exactly a year later, an Iraqi deputy accused Ukraine of supplying low-quality BTR-4.

              "The investigation into the supply of weapons by Ukraine to Iraq revealed corruption in part three of the contract concerning the sale of 420 armored personnel carriers, of which only about a hundred vehicles have been delivered so far, despite the fact that several years have passed since the ratification of the contract," he said at the beginning of this year Iraqi MP.

              It was also reported that in early February 2013 the anti-corruption commission of the Iraqi parliament circulated an internal report on violations allegedly revealed during the verification of the implementation of the contract concluded between Ukraine and Iraq on the supply of weapons.

              http://economics.unian.net/rus/news/173856-ukrainskie-btryi-rjaveyut-v-persidsko
              m-zalive.html

              Yours! hi
              1. Akim
                Akim 3 September 2013 11: 57
                0
                Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                not to be unfounded:

                It is possible even more than. Only this does not apply either to Iraq’s acceptance of this party of armored personnel carriers or to the arrest in the Indian port. There is no information from other sources about this yet.
              2. Corsair
                Corsair 3 September 2013 11: 59
                0
                Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                Dear Akim, in order not to be unfounded:

                Information of course a month ago, but at least from a source of trustworthy information (at least for Ukrainian opponents).
          2. Kars
            Kars 3 September 2013 11: 46
            +5
            Quote: Akim
            Andrey, this is an old photo

            Well, at least not Mumbai, if not for Kuzya, I would not have been interested in this topic at all.
            1. smiths xnumx
              smiths xnumx 3 September 2013 12: 19
              +1
              Well, Andryushenka, I congratulate you once again lying to you, they ask you about the THIRD game, immersed in March of THIS year in Odessa,
              Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
              Show the photo-video of the BTR-4 unloading certificate from the SE PACIFICA ship in Iraq, or demonstrate the photo-video of the BTR-4 evidence from the third batch, which was loaded onto the specified ship in Odessa this March in the Iraqi Armed Forces,

              and you’re posting photos of 2012 taken from Tarasenko. Here is a link to the article:
              Ukraine passes Iraq the second batch of BTR-4 Jun. 5th, 2012 at 4:26 PM

              http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/134937.html
              , and here is the link to the photo:
              http://i003.radikal.ru/1206/3d/58ada42840f0.jpg
              1. Kars
                Kars 3 September 2013 12: 25
                +2
                Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                Well, Andryushenka, I congratulate you once again

                Really?
                Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                and you photos already 2012 year

                And?
                Quote: Kars
                Well, at least not Mumbai, if not for Kuzya, I would not have been interested in this topic at all.

                Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                , and here is the link to the photo:

                And what? Is there a photo of an APC in Mumbai?
                1. smiths xnumx
                  smiths xnumx 3 September 2013 12: 46
                  0
                  Quote: Kars
                  Really?

                  Truth. You have something to remember about it ...
                  Quote: Kars
                  And?

                  I remind you my question
                  Show the photo-video of the BTR-4 unloading certificate from the SE PACIFICA ship in Iraq, or demonstrate the photo-video of the BTR-4 evidence from the third batch, which was loaded onto the specified ship in Odessa this March in the Iraqi Armed Forces,
                  . That is, the last photo you have in 2012, which you do not understand why dragged here. Clear.
                  Quote: Kars
                  And what? Is there a photo of an APC in Mumbai?
                  . But certainly not from the third installment in Iraq. Well, now another link:
                  The owner of the vessel SE PACIFICA with 42 Ukrainian armored personnel carriers for the Iraqi army on board, which official Baghdad does not want to accept, is preparing to unload military cargo at a port in a third country.
                  It is reported by "Duma" with reference to the Odessa representative of the shipowning company White Whale Shipping Alexander Varvarenko. According to him, armored vehicles will be arrested on the shore and, if Ukraine does not pay for downtime, they will be sold by court order.
                  Varvarenko added that the shipowner is currently negotiating with India, which is likely to become that very “third country."
                  Alexander Ivanov, a specialist in the field of maritime and international law, confirmed that the company may well decide on such a step.
                  “Say, the captain may have an urgent need to call at some port, for example for repairs, and the need for money to pay for services, port charges and the issue of salaries to the crew. In case of financial claims (maritime claims), a ship with cargo may be arrested, after which the courts of this country will decide its fate, ”the specialist noted.

                  http://vpk.name/news/94742_smi_ukrainskie_btryi_dlya_iraka_mogut_otpravitsya_na_
                  rasprodazhu_v_indiyu.html
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 3 September 2013 12: 56
                    +2
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    True. You have something to remember about it.

                    Well, of course, you show that you can’t read.
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    I remind you my question

                    Remind me Answer?
                    Quote: Kars
                    Show the APC on the ship, are you following him?

                    Isn't that Mumbai by chance?

                    Ate))) write ISCO clown))) how is it in Mumbai?
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    But certainly not from the third installment in Iraq. Well, now another link:

                    You have already posted it a few times, but this news is fresher)) read the article.
                    I imagine how you sausage yesterday when you noticed it in a footnote)))


                    Journalists, citing a representative of the Odessa company Varamar, which was transporting armored vehicles, reported that Iraqis refused to unload armored personnel carriers ashore due to alleged cracks in the hulls.

                    Journalists ...
                    1. smiths xnumx
                      smiths xnumx 3 September 2013 13: 56
                      0
                      Quote: Kars
                      Well, of course, you show that you can’t read.

                      Well, how can we get rid of "eksperdov", they have one thing, then another ..., and on the call there is ZERO and flood.
                      Quote: Kars
                      Remind me Answer?

                      Wow, what answer did you give? I posted pictures of 2010 and last year ago, and a clown? Write ISCO ... The drain is counted.
                      Akim UA Today, 11: 38 ↑
                      Quote: Kars
                      Isn't that Mumbai by chance?
                      Andrey, this is an old photo. Its first mention dates back to the 2010th.

                      Ate))) write ISCO clown))) how is it in Mumbai?
                      In Mumbai, everything is just fine, the ship is standing there, why, why, and not in Iraq. So, again write ISCHO clown ...
                      You have already posted it a few times, but this news is fresher)) read the article.
                      I imagine how you sausage yesterday when you noticed it in a footnote)))
                      Drop dead news. It’s also known that the ship did not unload its cargo in Iraq, and then they will post that Iraq accepted the armored personnel carriers in India and now it’s puzzling how to send them home ...)).
                      "We have sufficient optimism. Iraq has agreed to accept the next batch of BTR-4" ...
                      The main word is optimism. Continue to believe the clown ... But "Ukrspetsexport" is suspiciously silent again, all some sources close to him ... But while you are sausage, just not childish ...
                      Journalists ...
                      And what is the official version, are you waiting for. "A radish armored personnel carrier, the cannon breaks, etc., etc." So you were given a link to a ship owner and a member of the Iraqi parliament ... Simply, Iraq will once again take another fine from Ukraine.
                      Iraq has fined Ukraine for the delay in the delivery of 26 armored personnel carriers BTR-4, writes the Ukrainian magazine "Focus".

                      The amount of penalties amounted to three million dollars. The fact that penalties were applied to the Ukrainian side is indicated in the commentary on the invoice for payment of the delivered armored personnel carriers. The full amount of the payment is 21 million dollars, but Iraq transferred only 18 million to Ukraine.

                      http://053.313news.net/news/a-6488.html

                      Here you have another link to find the ship
                      http://www.shipfinder.com/main/defaultwork?searchKey=SE%20PACIFICA&tp=1

                      So, write ISCHO and continue to make me laugh further clown- "eksperd" ...
                      1. Kars
                        Kars 3 September 2013 14: 11
                        +2
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        Well, how can we get rid of the "eksperdov"

                        The fact that you are zero is understandable. All that Garazd to overwrite the sheets from other resources))))
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        Wow, what answer did you give? I posted pictures of 2010 of the year and last year ago, and the clown?

                        And what can’t you? And do not Mumbai vet? Or Mumbai?
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        Everything is fine in Mumbai, the ship is standing there,

                        and armored personnel carriers are there?
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        Drop dead news. It is also known that the ship did not unload its cargo in Iraq

                        WHERE IS THIS KNOWN?
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        But "Ukrspetsexport" is suspiciously silent again, all some sources close to it

                        And why should he suspiciously nightingale spills?
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        Simply, Iraq will once again take another fine from Ukraine.
                        Iraq has fined Ukraine for the delay in the delivery of 26 armored personnel carriers BTR-4, writes the Ukrainian magazine "Focus".

                        So what? When did it happen? And what about the official opinion of Iraq?
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        http://053.313news.net/news/a-6488.html

                        Posted by: 29.07.11 18: 13 | Read: 349
                        And there is data that paid?
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        tp: //www.shipfinder.com/main/defaultwork? searchKey = SE% 20PACIFICA & tp = 1

                        You’re a reference to the location of the armored personnel carrier, to the reformation of the Iraqi MO, about the termination of the contract, about the Indian side’s opinion on the offer to buy the 4 armored personnel carrier, about why cargo had to be transported to Mumbai for arrest, like there are no more ports in the Persian Gulf. Or why Ukspecexport is ready to make an arrest in the port, instead of unloading it in a third country and pay for the lease of space in the port, until they hired a passing ship to Odessa.


                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        So, write ISCHO and continue to make me laugh further clown- "eksperd"

                        I’ll write it optionally, I’m happy with your hysteria. Dada found out how probably you were a clown of non-traditional sexual orientation and Ukrainophobe was probably bored
                      2. smiths xnumx
                        smiths xnumx 3 September 2013 16: 10
                        0
                        The fact that you are zero is understandable. All that Garazd to overwrite the sheets from other resources))))
                        In general, I "eksperdov" reinforce my words with links. And besides, I will answer with your own words:
                        And what not?

                        And what can’t you? And do not Mumbai vet? Or Mumbai?
                        Write ISCHO, since there is nothing to say on the topic, and post more photos so that all your stupidity and worthlessness are seen. Look again, I posted a photo of January 6, 2012.
                        http://fi.ill.in.ua/m/371x240/54345.jpg

                        and armored personnel carriers are there?
                        Link to the Odessa representative of the ship-owner White Whale Shipping, which owns the SE PACIFICA vessel Alexander Varvarenko. Armored personnel carriers are on the ship, and the ship is in Mumbai, India, see "Experd"
                        http://www.shipfinder.com/main/defaultwork?searchKey=SE%20PACIFICA&tp=1
                        But by the way, for the "eksperd" I will inform you that Mumbai is the Indian name of Bombay.
                        WHERE IS THIS KNOWN?
                        According to the Odessa representative of the shipowning company White Whale Shipping, which owns the vessel SE PACIFICA Alexander Varvarenko.
                        And why should he suspiciously nightingale spills?

                        And really why?
                        And about. Oleksandr Kovalenko, head of Ukrspetsexport, together with high-ranking officials of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff are currently in Iraq, trying to resolve the conflict.

                        The option of sending specialists to the Malyshev plant to the Middle East is being considered in order to eliminate the marriage on the spot, after which the Iraqis may receive armored personnel carriers, but at a significant discount.

                        http://newzz.in.ua/ukrain/1148900714-irak-otkazyvaetsya-prinimat-ukrainskie-btr-
                        4.html
                      3. smiths xnumx
                        smiths xnumx 3 September 2013 16: 20
                        -1
                        So what? When did it happen? And what about the official opinion of Iraq?
                        You represent in the 2011 year, after the delivery of the first batch of armored personnel carriers to Iraq. However, there is still a problem with the AN-32B.
                        The total amount of the fine, as follows from copies of the documents at the disposal of Focus journalists, can grow to $ 55 million - such a sanction is stipulated in the contract itself.
                        http://focus.ua/politics/165885#comments&r=8&bs=rating&bp=1&c=comments
                        You can read there and scans of individual provisions of the contract are available.
                        You’re a reference to the location of the armored personnel carrier, to the reformation of the Iraqi MO, about the termination of the contract, about the Indian side’s opinion on the offer to buy the 4 armored personnel carrier, about why cargo had to be transported to Mumbai for arrest, like there are no more ports in the Persian Gulf. Or why Ukspecexport is ready to make an arrest in the port, instead of unloading it in a third country and pay for the lease of space in the port, until they hired a passing ship to Odessa.
                        You have already been given a link to find the ship. Do you know the opinion of "Ukrspetsexport" yourself? He is silent like a partisan. Only:
                        "We have sufficient optimism. Iraq has agreed to accept the next batch of BTR-4" ...

                        I’ll write it optionally, I’m happy with your hysteria. Dada found out how probably you were a clown of non-traditional sexual orientation and Ukrainophobe was probably bored
                        What a hysteria, what are you talking about, sick again you rave. And such petuchow clowns, as you need to know in their mug .. By the way, my negative attitude to your dirty personality with sexual perversions, you can’t stand the rest of normal Ukrainians ...
                      4. Kars
                        Kars 3 September 2013 16: 44
                        +4
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        You represent in the 2011 year, after the delivery of the first batch of armored personnel carriers to Iraq. However, there is still a problem with the AN-32B.

                        did you pay something like that or not? Didn’t the papers come from the journalists?
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        You have already been given a link to find the ship

                        why the ship? give me a betera.
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        do you find out the opinion of "Ukrspetsexport"? He is silent like a partisan. Only:

                        I agreed.
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        What a tantrum

                        your usual.
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        And such petuchow
                        so your partners call you? I will know.

                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        you can’t stand the rest of normal Ukrainians ...

                        oh well - you are a real ukrainophobe - and happily overdid the negative on the military-industrial complex of Ukraine and before meeting me)))
                      5. Akim
                        Akim 3 September 2013 18: 00
                        0
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        However, there is still a problem with the AN-32B.

                        Kindly, what's the problem with Anushka? Apparently I’m missing something or your direction is wrong, due to inaccurate information,
                    2. Kars
                      Kars 3 September 2013 16: 27
                      +4
                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      I reinforce my words with links

                      Well, you and your links can be poorly read.
                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      and. And besides, I will answer with your own words:
                      And what not?

                      Sheets to post? You can - only now you look very poor.
                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      Link to the Odessa representative of the shipowning company White Whale Shipping, which owns the vessel SE PACIFICA Alexander Varvarenko

                      By the way, no, what his journalists mentioned doesn’t mean anything)) Maybe you can give me a link to the company’s website? What do they write there?
                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      . Armored personnel carriers are on the ship,

                      How do you know?
                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      According to the Odessa representative of the shipowning company White Whale Shipping, which owns the vessel SE PACIFICA Alexander Varvarenko.

                      Did he say this to you PERSONALLY or did you read it from some journalists who were not responsible for your words?

                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      And really why?

                      There is no need. While the Iraqi Defense Ministry will not write anything officially? Is there anything from the customer there?
                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      http://newzz.in.ua/ukrain/1148900714-irak-otkazyvaetsya-prinimat-ukrainskie-btr-

                      4.html
                      )))) we start to look from where the woods and OOOO come out on the Duma no))))
                      Based on materials: Dumskaya.net

                      And there are NO sources))) WITH words)))
  4. Lopatov
    Lopatov 3 September 2013 11: 38
    +3
    Most likely, everything will be fine. The Ukrainian authorities will receive a carrot in the form of completion of the contract for their correct actions to provide Ukraine to the European Union in the form of a sales market.

    The Americans are behind this all, it is they with their M113 that are the main competitors. And providing these armored personnel carriers almost for free, they have the opportunity to influence the Iraqi government.

    Everything turned out to be much funnier than I thought. They simply bred someone.
  • Akim
    Akim 3 September 2013 11: 29
    +1
    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
    And the shipowner agrees to unload the cargo for his arrest and subsequent sale under the hammer

    Asked the Indians a question. The local press does not write anything about this.
  • Flooding
    Flooding 3 September 2013 16: 40
    +1
    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
    shipfinder
    Vessel SE PACIFICA
    It has been standing there since 19.08.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX.


    Strange, no system displays a status later than August 9th.
    You are not mistaken?
  • Flooding
    Flooding 3 September 2013 16: 42
    +1
    Here too.

    It seems that Mumbai has so far appeared only in news feeds.
    1. Akim
      Akim 3 September 2013 18: 08
      +1
      Quote: Flood
      It seems that Mumbai has so far appeared only in news feeds.

      It has been standing in Mumbai since August 19.
      http://www.shipfinder.com/main/defaultwork?searchKey=SE%20PACIFICA&tp=1
      1. Kars
        Kars 3 September 2013 18: 11
        +3
        I went to the site of the shipowner company - this is the standard route Odessa-India,
        So the fact that the ship in the Indian port has nothing supernatural.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 3 September 2013 18: 49
          +1
          Quote: Kars
          I went to the site of the shipowner company - this is the standard route Odessa-India,
          So the fact that the ship in the Indian port has nothing supernatural.

          If you do not take into account the fact that the ship so long hung out for no apparent reason in the Persian Gulf.
          1. Kars
            Kars 3 September 2013 18: 59
            +2
            Quote: Flood
            If you do not take into account the fact that the ship so long hung out for no apparent reason in the Persian Gulf

            I didn’t follow the honest Oktebryatskoe. But I also do not know the route plan of the vessel.
  • Druid
    Druid 3 September 2013 12: 30
    +2
    http://vpk-news.ru/articles/9202 добавить нечего по поводу злопыхательства.
  • VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 3 September 2013 12: 31
    0
    No offense. But from the side, this APC looks like a snub-nosed coffin.
  • Druid
    Druid 3 September 2013 12: 37
    +1
    Quote: Apollon
    named after Malyshev or all the same Morozov ?!
    At Malyshev, assembly was also now underway because of a large order for Iraq, as well as the developer and manufacturer of the BTR-4 HCBM named after Morozov.
  • Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 3 September 2013 12: 57
    0
    Kind! Well done Ukrainians, substituted for European integration, and now the contractor has moved! Just a wonderful coincidence !!!! and they will let NATO, MB, and Yus bases
    These armored vehicles will be considered unique! and take a hundred and second! Eeeeeh ....
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 3 September 2013 13: 57
    +1
    I am sure that without geopolitical "partners" this matter would not have been resolved, as was the case with the supply of armored vehicles to Georgia.
    1. Corneli
      Corneli 3 September 2013 18: 45
      +1
      Quote: Peaceful military
      I am sure that without geopolitical "partners" this matter would not have been resolved,

      You haven't seen any other curtsies from "partners" in the last month)
      The most EPIC read on August 26:
      "UNESCO World Heritage Center recognized the national anthem of Ukraine as the best in the world (Best National Anthem in the World). So, the rating included national anthems of 193 countries.
      The anthem of Ukraine received first place in the overall ranking.
      At the same time, four indicators were taken into account, for two of them the Ukrainian anthem received the highest score - harmony, a harmonious combination of musical and textual parts. A high score was also for the originality of the musical solution and the integrity of the work.
      Ukraine turned out to be the only European country in the top five, and in general, the top ten national anthems of the world included the anthems of New Zealand (2nd place), South Africa (3rd), Australia (4th), USA (5th ), Canada (6th), United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (7th), Spain (8th), France (9th) and Japan (10th). "
      Shche not vmerla Ukraine ... in short
  • desiscia
    desiscia 3 September 2013 14: 04
    0
    Toad terrible beast crushed the floor of the world. laughing
  • Max otto
    Max otto 3 September 2013 14: 20
    +1
    Because old allies merged in the USA, then new ones were needed - the team went along the chain. Armored personnel carriers began to take, cracks welded up automatically.
  • awg75
    awg75 3 September 2013 14: 24
    -5
    the quality of Ukrainian technology does not stand up to criticism .... not for long on the market
    1. Akim
      Akim 3 September 2013 14: 49
      +4
      Quote: awg75
      The quality of Ukrainian technology does not stand up to criticism.

      Have you been to the commission for admission, or have you read this from the Internet?
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  • Akim
    Akim 3 September 2013 18: 21
    +2
    Good Masha, yes ... not ours sad