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Combat anti-diversion vehicle "Typhoon-M"

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Over the coming months, the fleet of strategic missile forces will be replenished with new-type combat vehicles. This time, the rocket men will receive not a self-propelled launcher or machine, designed to provide combat duty, but a representative of a new class for our armed forces. Combat anti-sabotage machine (BPDM) "Typhoon-M" is designed to protect mobile missile systems and bases with launch mines.


Combat anti-diversion vehicle "Typhoon-M"


The development of a new technology project began in the late nineties, but it reached the stage of mass production development only after almost a decade and a half. During this time, the main features of the project were changed several times. So, for example, the original version of BPDM called “Typhoon” was planned to be built on the basis of the chassis and body of the BTR-80 armored personnel carrier. In the future, the development of the anti-sabotage vehicle project led to the fact that a new base in the form of the BTR-82 was selected for the Typhoon-M vehicle. However, much more changes in the course of development and updating have undergone a complex of electronic equipment.

Unfortunately, for obvious reasons, at the moment most of the information about the project "Typhoon-M" is closed. Nonetheless, some information has already been shared, which makes it possible to create an approximate picture that describes the design, equipment and capabilities of the new BPDM with sufficient accuracy.

The project of the new military anti-sabotage machine "Typhoon-M" was developed by the Tula research and production association "Strela" from 2007 of the year. According to some sources, the design work on the project was completed in 2011 year. Soon the construction of the first prototype of the promising BPDM began. Approximately in 2012, the first copy of Typhoon-M was put to the test.

The Typhoon-M car has several notable differences from the base armored personnel carrier BTR-82. Firstly, instead of the original turret of an armored personnel carrier, a relatively small remotely controlled turret with a PKT machine gun was installed on the anti-sabotage machine, and secondly, a significant part of the roof of the hull is occupied by additional equipment placed in several metal units of box-shaped and complex polyhedral shape.

In the units mounted on the roof of the armored vehicle there is a part of the equipment for observation and communication. Radio and optoelectronic complex provides confident observation of the surrounding space regardless of weather conditions and time of day. It includes surveillance systems with optical and thermal channels, as well as, presumably, a radar station. Part of the surveillance system is located on the lifting mast. According to available data, BPMD “Typhoon-M” is able to detect equipment at a distance of 6 kilometers, a person at half the distance. In addition, as reported in the media, the anti-sabotage vehicle carries a system to counter radio-controlled explosive devices. The exact composition of the equipment and its specific models have not yet been named.

Based on the available photographs and video materials, it is possible to draw some conclusions about the layout of the internal volumes of the Typhoon-M BPDM case. The troop compartment of the former armored personnel carrier was given to crew jobs and radio electronic equipment. The crew of the car, presumably, consists of three people: the commander, the driver and the operator of the detection systems. The workplace of the operator and the commander is equipped with electronic control and management systems. The signal from the optoelectronic station is displayed on liquid crystal screens. The operator or commander has the ability to both monitor the environment and attack the detected targets with the help of an existing machine gun. From the relative weakness of such weapons, we can draw the appropriate conclusion: it is likely that, if necessary, the BPRDM crew should request outside assistance.

The composition of the observation equipment of the machine "Typhoon-M" in addition to the systems that are placed directly on it, also includes additional equipment with a much larger radius of action. For observation of remote areas the crew of the BPMD "Typhoon-M" can use a light unmanned aerial vehicle. The small-sized UAV is equipped with surveillance systems and allows you to monitor the territory of a larger area and at a greater distance from the combat vehicle in comparison with the built-in equipment.

As is clear from the name of the new class of technology, the Typhoon-M anti-sabotage vehicle must find and destroy saboteurs attempting to attack the combat vehicles of mobile missile systems. In this case, the main focus is on monitoring the surrounding space and the search for potentially dangerous cars or people. Because of this, there is a clear bias towards equipping the BPDM with a large number of various equipment with the installation of only one rifle caliber machine gun.

At the end of August 2013, the first reports appeared about the training of crews for work on the Typhoon-M after their transfer to the troops. Courses for officers of the missile troops are held on the basis of the Serpukhov branch of the Academy of Strategic Missile Forces. Peter the Great. According to reports, the only existing copy of a combat anti-sabotage vehicle is used to train driver mechanics, commanders and operators.

Also at the end of August, the Ministry of Defense disclosed its plans for Typhoon-M vehicles. By the end of this year, it is planned to build and transfer to the front-line units the first serial BPDM. They will be sent to serve in the units of the Teikov Rocket Division. In the future, anti-sabotage machines will go into service with other units of the strategic missile forces. Among other units, the Typhoon-M will also serve in those units that operate mobile ground-based missile systems. It is assumed that BPDM will be accompanied by other vehicles of the complexes on the march and during launches. In addition, it is proposed to use anti-sabotage equipment to protect missile bases with silo launchers.


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  1. smart ass
    smart ass 3 September 2013 08: 12 New
    11
    The necessary contraption, but the fact that the weapons are weak is not a problem! Behind the typhoon, armored personnel carriers can also follow with motorized riflemen on board.
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 3 September 2013 08: 29 New
      10
      For the most part, he is a scout-gunner, and at the same time he himself has light weapons for fighting the enemy’s manpower (if I understood correctly).
      1. Dmitry 2246
        Dmitry 2246 3 September 2013 10: 36 New
        +9
        The machine will be useful in reconnaissance units of regiments and brigades.
        It is especially useful on the march, because in our country the columns are usually almost not covered, especially from the flanks.
        1. washi
          washi 3 September 2013 12: 29 New
          +5
          Quote: Dmitry 2246
          The machine will be useful in reconnaissance units of regiments and brigades.
          It is especially useful on the march, because in our country the columns are usually almost not covered, especially from the flanks.

          Unfortunately, we have poorly debugged interaction between the branches and branches of the armed forces. Everyone has different communication channels, frequencies. Attempts to organize a single network communication system drowned in "restructuring"
          1. ProkletyiPirat
            ProkletyiPirat 16 May 2017 14: 57 New
            0
            from here we conclude that it’s easier to build it ..
        2. p-159
          p-159 3 September 2013 16: 57 New
          +1
          when I was in my service, such units were called cshm, but they were based on MTLB
  2. alexmaneger
    alexmaneger 3 September 2013 08: 30 New
    +4
    According to the available data, the Typhoon-M BDM is capable of detecting equipment at a distance of up to 6 kilometers, of a person at half the distance.
    When I was a military man, they coped with these tasks with the help of the PSNR (portable ground reconnaissance station) and SBR (short-range reconnaissance station), which detect moving objects with determining the distance.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 3 September 2013 08: 38 New
      +6
      more related videos

    2. avt
      avt 3 September 2013 08: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: alexmaneger
      According to the available data, the Typhoon-M BDM is capable of detecting equipment at a distance of up to 6 kilometers, of a person at half the distance.

      In fact, the only secret in this unit is the parameters of the installed equipment.
  3. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 3 September 2013 08: 44 New
    +4
    The car is important and necessary! and those whom this machine will direct will be engaged in fire cover! from the name - "anti-sabotage" means sabotage is not done by planes or tanks, so this machine does not need great firepower!
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 15 September 2013 14: 49 New
      +2
      Good car
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  5. sergey69
    sergey69 3 September 2013 09: 11 New
    0
    here's another photo
  6. Colonel
    Colonel 3 September 2013 09: 16 New
    +5
    Good unit. Judging by the antennas, among other things, there is the RP-377 UVM1 complex for suppressing radio channels for various purposes, including and guided landmines.
  7. Lopatov
    Lopatov 3 September 2013 09: 27 New
    -15
    A pointless car with a bunch of extra features.

    I drank, however.

    Why does she need a drone? Crew distract from the main work - visual and radar surveillance? Why is there no lifting mast device?
    1. Coward
      Coward 3 September 2013 10: 18 New
      +6
      The article says that there is
      Some surveillance systems are located on a lifting mast.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 3 September 2013 11: 07 New
        -1
        I apologize, but I do not watch her. It should be at least like this:
        1. Morok
          Morok 3 September 2013 14: 02 New
          0
          As already mentioned below - it is folded. The video was not shown, probably for reasons of secrecy.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 3 September 2013 15: 26 New
            -1
            Clear business, did not show. There was nothing to show.
        2. Moore
          Moore 3 September 2013 16: 41 New
          +2
          One I see on 00.11 in the first Apollon AMU footage?
          Or is the height categorically insufficient?
          As for the need, the uselessness, it is needed unambiguously in every missile division and DBU. Two are better, and as an additional bonus, not excluding the already existing armor - BTR, MTLB (these latter are also with one FCT and no one is particularly sad about this, because the unpretentiousness and patency of the device pleases).
          And what a monstrously ridiculous construct is nothing, it’s hardened, it’s in love.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 3 September 2013 18: 22 New
            0
            Of course not enough. Compare, for example, with a car from Penza
            1. Moore
              Moore 3 September 2013 19: 39 New
              +1
              MRU-O is a control rather than a reconnaissance vehicle, where the mast has replaced firepower - this is what control points do for the ground forces. In Typhoon, they decided to cross a snake and a hedgehog. As a result, the creation is neither too long nor too scratchy.
              It’s bad that it’s not on a tracked base.
              Operation in the Teykov division will show whether a good unit or not. All kinds of rogues have been indulging in them for a long time with various innovations - either a foam generator based on the Urals, or something else ...
    2. go
      go 3 September 2013 21: 17 New
      +4
      Dear Lopatov, this is not a command post of artillery, which should sit quietly and look far away. The task of the machine is to identify threats from saboteurs on the march.

      Why does she need a large mast - saboteurs still cannot be found at large distances (they don’t drive in tanks) and it will be difficult to use a high mast with equipment in motion, and this is the main function of the machine, as far as I understand the article. When moving to the mast there will be large dynamic loads, and it will be necessary to watch so as not to hit the branch, a bridge, etc.

      In addition, there is a mast there, I think just the distance to detect saboteurs.

      A drone is needed to look beyond a turn or to the top of a mountain, hill, if there are suspicions (identified by equipment). To send someone to intelligence is the last century, because our birth rate is not so high. It would have to install a rocket on it.

      I think such a machine is needed not only in the Strategic Missile Forces, but also in other parts where it is necessary to identify ambushes on the march using modern methods. Such machines have long been in NATO and Israel.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 3 September 2013 22: 56 New
        +4
        Quote: go
        Dear Lopatov, this is not a command post of artillery, which should sit quietly and look far away. The task of the machine is to identify threats from saboteurs on the march.

        Dear, what are the "threats of saboteurs on the march"? Do you even realize what, in fact, needs to be protected? One shot at the TPK missile, and that's it, the combat mission failed.
        And therefore it is not necessary to "detect threats" here, but to completely control the route.

        Here I am, for example, the father-commander who performs this task. What do i need?

        * Of course in your own KSM.

        * In stations of optical and radar reconnaissance, which have a normal mast to increase the view and the ability to work from the offset. Regarding your statement about "saboteurs still cannot be found at long distances," I inform you: an old Soviet PSNR-5 detects a moving person without equipment (a target of the "mushroom picker" type) at a distance of 4 km. The thermal imager is also a very good thing in this respect. In addition, it is desirable to have optical detection equipment.
        And you know what's interesting? Such a machine in terms of equipment will not be any different from the reconnaissance of the new BRM and the artillerymen of the new PRP.

        * UAVs. I do not need them to "look around the corner", I need them constantly hanging in the sky, so there should be at least two of them. Each with their own car to pick them up. Each with its own operator, who will exclusively control the device and the information received from it.
        And what's interesting such machines in terms of equipment will not differ in any way from those required in the troops.

        * Patrol cars. Which will carry my main striking power, people. Which will have normal protection, including mine, normal weapons (stabilized, and capable of operating at adequate ranges, because saboteurs will definitely have anti-material rifles) equipped with normal detection tools, capable of acting as repeaters for walking groups. Also, they should have sets of sensors: seismic and others, and equipment for receiving data from them and relaying to the CP
        And what's interesting such vehicles will not differ in any way from the necessary reconnaissance of new BRDM.


        And now tell me, what function of those necessary for me will this cross between a snake and a hedgehog called "Typhoon-U" perform? What is it, in fact, anti-sabotage?
        1. go
          go 4 September 2013 22: 17 New
          0
          I think that we are talking about the same thing. I don’t care how to name such a car - a new BRDM or Typhoon-U, it is important what function it carries. Equipment should work on the march and detect the enemy in ambush at the required distance. At the same time, be as passive as possible so as not to unmask yourself. Probably worth it on the PSNR-5 radar? Draw conclusions.

          As for the drone - why would it need a separate car when it is possible to launch and control this one? It would be better in motion. Regarding constantly hanging in the air - here you need to carefully approach the issue, because a drone constantly hanging over the Strategic Missile Forces column can be a gift for those who direct saboteurs to this column.

          I mean, in general, that this or a similar machine is needed and not only for the Strategic Missile Forces, in the Caucasus it would also be useful for escorting small columns.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 4 September 2013 22: 26 New
            0
            Quote: go
            Equipment should work on the march and detect the enemy in ambush at the required distance.

            It is unable to detect a competently organized ambush. This car in this form is a waste of money.
            1. go
              go 4 September 2013 23: 17 New
              0
              This is understandable, but such a machine is better than none, or escort simply on an armored personnel carrier or BRDM, as is usually done. Regarding the drone carrier - I remember the idea that you need to have a separate car and not in reconnaissance (at the forefront) somewhere in the depths, because in reconnaissance, this machine can be lost, but here we are talking about small columns, I think it was designed for this machine.
  8. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 3 September 2013 09: 36 New
    +1
    Well done! Without good intelligence on the spot and along the route, the rest of the equipment will strive for 0. But still I insist on good air defense of the near and middle radius. It seems that they are ready to fight sabotage.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 3 September 2013 10: 35 New
      +3
      Regarding air defense:
      http://rusnod.ru/theme703.html
      Typhoon is a good and necessary machine along with a remote demining machine:
      1. Grigorich 1962
        Grigorich 1962 3 September 2013 12: 09 New
        0
        such a machine and infantry and tank columns will be high ... it is gratifying to learn about the creation of such models of equipment
        1. p-159
          p-159 3 September 2013 17: 22 New
          +1
          who knows against RDG there are no funds.
          1. papik09
            papik09 4 September 2013 07: 01 New
            0
            Oh, you're right. Against professionals-saboteurs of protection, practically does not exist. That's for sure. hi
      2. roma2
        roma2 3 September 2013 16: 05 New
        -1
        And this is generally a tin, as the saying goes "goodbye to the potency of the crew" and the disability of the cart accompanying this shaitan, microwave radiation leads to leukemia.
      3. bublic82009
        bublic82009 3 September 2013 21: 14 New
        +1
        this is garbage. What a massive crap on her forehead. When driving through bridges or when driving in turns, it will interfere. and yet that nonsense that hangs in front will cling if for some reason.
    2. roma2
      roma2 3 September 2013 16: 02 New
      -1
      And you will explore a lot from under armor then ????
      "POPULAR" move around ITS territory how are you going to distinguish a civilian from a saboteur ??? Or are you hoping that the saboteurs will have a huge transporter with the inscription "Saboteur"?
      For this purpose some kind of shabby penny and peasants in quilted jackets would be suitable.
      1. Moore
        Moore 3 September 2013 20: 00 New
        +1
        1. Since the 80s, the APU fur-water has been sitting under the Doppler sensor - at least one complained. It's all about the directivity of the beam.
        2. A peaceful citizen will be stopped by specially trained people when approaching the security center on a tip from this pepelats.
        3. Lada and padded jackets are included in the kit, in addition to everything else. But this is already a matter of a slightly different direction.
  9. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 3 September 2013 10: 33 New
    +5
    A machine against saboteurs who are armed with ATGMs, grenade launchers, UAVs, has thermal imaging and low-level TV channels and is black and white, has only anti-fragmentation armor and is armed only with PKM I agree that in a motorized rifle battalion a couple of such vehicles would be useful as a BRM. But to counteract saboteurs - it is rather weak. Only RMB - and all !!! I do not think that according to the charter, only one APC accompanies the launcher. Even a BMP-3 pair will create enough fire density at a distance of one and a half kilometers to at least stop an attempt at rapprochement. Something like this ... Regards! hi
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 3 September 2013 11: 15 New
      +1
      Let’s do it without fanaticism, this is a reconnaissance vehicle, albeit made through the ass. And therefore, its function does not include the implementation of intelligence obtained. data. The remote control is intended for self-defense only.
      1. bask
        bask 3 September 2013 16: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: Spade
        do it without fanaticism, this is a reconnaissance vehicle, albeit made through the ass

        Let's.
        Greetings to all.
        Combat anti-diversion vehicle "Typhoon-M"

        Dear Shovels. It is written that the car is a patrol-anti-sabotage vehicle.
        Just the equipment, in my opinion, is completely in order. But the platform is clearly sophisticated.
        They created a family, Typhoon, KamAZ, Urals, you can’t find a better chassis. Huge internal volume, mine protection (saboteurs can also mine the road). The ability to place any equipment
        Why for this sculpt BTR-80/82 I do not understand. Everyone wants to make an economy class armored vehicles.
        ,, TYPHOON.KAMAZ.
        1. Moore
          Moore 3 September 2013 16: 45 New
          +2
          With height, the Kamaz man let us down ... Still, they created it initially as a transporter, and not as a platform for shooting something ...
          1. bask
            bask 3 September 2013 17: 02 New
            0
            Quote: Moore
            as a transporter, not as a platform for anything

            Well, that is, better not yet.
            There are no armored options, with excellent cross-country ability.
            All-terrain vehicle, .Petrovich ,,., If the MO gives an assignment for performance characteristics, then the manufacturer will be able to develop an armored version. New cars, new technologies are needed.
            all-terrain vehicle ,, PETROVICH ,,. FOR MOE.
            1. bask
              bask 3 September 2013 17: 17 New
              0
              High-pass car SILANT, Novgorod.
          2. bask
            bask 3 September 2013 20: 22 New
            0
            Quote: Moore
            and not as a platform for shooting anything ...

            The project, Typhoon-K, created KAMAZ as a platform for shooting something.
            KamAZ-63969 6/6 and a load capacity of 3 tons. Reservation protects 14,5 mm caliber bullets. Mine protection of an armored car from 8 kg in t / e. The crew of 2 people, landing about 10 people. It is clear that has not yet passed the test. But for escorting columns and an anti-sabotage vehicle, it will do just fine, and with the installation of PM.

            True, the design of KamAZ -6369 really resembles the Belgian BTR SIBMAS 6/6. But this is not scary, the main thing is testing and mass production.
    2. p-159
      p-159 3 September 2013 17: 26 New
      0
      SEC protection was like that of the WORLD. Ours with you do not think that there are degenerates
  10. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 3 September 2013 12: 06 New
    0
    Super car ..... I really liked ..... in fact, its use can be significantly expanded ..... for example, while guarding the borders .... especially the southern ones .... and paired with the Shell-C unsurpassed equipment of defense and protection of columns, etc.
    1. roma2
      roma2 3 September 2013 16: 07 New
      +5
      ON THE BORDER, IT DOESN'T NEED
      we just need unpretentious and hardy cars and LOTS OF LOTS of fuel
      personal experience.
  11. Morok
    Morok 3 September 2013 12: 20 New
    +2
    According to reports, the only existing copy of the combat anti-sabotage vehicle is used to train driver mechanics, commanders, and operators.


    By the end of the year, the training complex for this machine should undergo factory tests. It will allow to fulfill training tasks by all crew members, both as a team and separately. There will be something to learn from.

    Quote: Spade
    Let’s do it without fanaticism, it’s a reconnaissance vehicle, albeit made through the ass


    It’s intelligence!
    Normally it is done. Crammed into it to the heap too much. But the functionality is excellent.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 3 September 2013 18: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Morok
      Crammed into it to the heap too much. But the functionality is excellent.

      How is it "great"? What is the general meaning of its appearance? How are its functions fundamentally different from similar machines for the ground forces?
  12. Grifan
    Grifan 3 September 2013 12: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: Spade
    I apologize, but I do not watch her. It should be at least like this:



    When folded, it does not happen? smile
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 3 September 2013 15: 27 New
      0
      It happens. But she is not so folded.
      1. Grifan
        Grifan 3 September 2013 19: 30 New
        0
        Do all have the same casings?)
  13. Xroft
    Xroft 3 September 2013 12: 59 New
    +2
    The question is why did they take the APC as a basis? Doesn't it hurt bulky for intelligence? Belarusians out generally did on a caterpillar basis.
    To people who write about weapons --- She shouldn’t ride and bring down saboteurs herself? The main thing is to discover and give information to those who do it. Maybe they come from this and took the armored personnel carrier as a basis, it is more difficult to identify intelligence in it.
    1. Majordok
      Majordok 3 September 2013 13: 45 New
      +3
      To accompany the PU, it seems to me the optimal chassis.
      1. roma2
        roma2 3 September 2013 16: 10 New
        -1
        You are strange people, PUs will move deep in the rear, and what do you seriously think that saboteurs will be on armored personnel carriers with automatic weapons to cut through the edge ???
    2. Morok
      Morok 3 September 2013 13: 49 New
      +1
      There is a lot of stuff inside - it needs a sufficient amount of internal space. Plus cross. And what other options?
      1. p-159
        p-159 3 September 2013 17: 31 New
        0
        vv-shnik probably
    3. p-159
      p-159 3 September 2013 17: 29 New
      0
      MTBL excellent base
      1. Morok
        Morok 6 September 2013 12: 32 New
        0
        What is a vvshnik?

        MTLB is not suitable for the concept: all the equipment in the column is wheeled, because must march along public roads.
  14. starhina01
    starhina01 3 September 2013 14: 40 New
    0
    interesting device good I would like to study what he can if there is a drain of electronics request but the secret must be soldier let the adversaries break their heads lol
  15. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 3 September 2013 16: 37 New
    +4
    A machine gun is installed on such machines for self-defense, and not for attack ... After detection, other more specialized forces should be notified to destroy saboteurs.
  16. alexmaneger
    alexmaneger 3 September 2013 20: 58 New
    0
    Quote: p-159
    MTBL excellent base

    Still, to modernize this basis, MTLB or MTLBU, so it would not have any prices at all.
  17. sergey158-29
    sergey158-29 3 September 2013 23: 01 New
    +1
    And I LIKED, let them work out the complex before the series! I think not only "strategists" he would be suitable !! good
  18. Michael_59
    Michael_59 3 September 2013 23: 12 New
    0
    Can she shoot down an enemy drone?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 3 September 2013 23: 16 New
      +1
      Only if the commander of the car has thrown a hat.
  19. AlexP47
    AlexP47 3 September 2013 23: 40 New
    +1
    It is embarrassing to place blocks with equipment outside the reserved volume. The enemy will primarily try to hit the unprotected boxes on the roof of the car. Although, something is better than nothing. PGRK columns crawling along a dense forest road look completely defenseless against enemy sabotage groups. To disable the PGR complex, a few through penetrations of a container with a rocket will suffice.
  20. Michael_59
    Michael_59 3 September 2013 23: 42 New
    +2
    Quote: Spade
    Only if the commander of the car has thrown a hat.


    They smiled.

    But the Ukrainian brothers have a new BTR-4 "Bucephalus", with a modular layout and carried weapons - the "thunder" module, where the cannon works against air targets.

    In the "typhoon", as I understand it, the entire volume was occupied by the electronic filling ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 4 September 2013 00: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: Michael_59
      But the Ukrainian brothers have a new BTR-4 "Bucephalus", with a modular layout and carried weapons - the "thunder" module, where the cannon works against air targets.

      If you shoot a regiment, maybe someone will fall. In general, radar and special equipment are required for firing at air targets
  21. Michael_59
    Michael_59 4 September 2013 00: 01 New
    +1
    And remote sensors, the so-called. "Reconnaissance and signaling equipment" that must be manually set and masked at a distance of 1.5 km from the car - I was completely upset.
  22. vietnam7
    vietnam7 4 September 2013 06: 40 New
    0
    Quote: Spade
    I inform you: an old Soviet PSNR-5 detects a moving person without equipment (a target of the "mushroom picker" type) at a distance of 4 km. The thermal imager is also a very good thing in this respect.
    The fact of the matter is that SBR, PSNR and similar devices are detected only by moving objects, with the advent of them in Vietnam there were countermeasures, the thermal imager is also not a panacea. But all the same, of course the car is needed, it is a pity if everything is over on the Strategic Rocket Forces, it will come in handy to accompany the columns on the march, all the more sure there is a jamming jammer.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 4 September 2013 08: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: vietnam7
      The fact of the matter is that SBR, PSNR and similar devices are detected only by moving objects, with the advent of them in Vietnam there were countermeasures, the thermal imager is also not a panacea.

      That's right, only a soldier of the security unit can detect a lying and disguised saboteur. Stepping on it. And therefore it is necessary to catch them during the nomination. And this misunderstanding called "Typhoon-M" is not intended for this.
      1. go
        go 4 September 2013 22: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Spade
        That's right, only a soldier of the security unit can detect a lying and disguised saboteur. Stepping on it. And therefore it is necessary to catch them during the nomination. And this misunderstanding called "Typhoon-M" is not intended for this.


        A thermal imager can be detected if it is alive. From the air for sure (back to the issue of drones). They are not running in spacesuits yet. Then transfer this information with the coordinates to the security unit or better to hammer it from the air (from the drone), and then transfer the coordinates to the security unit. Amers do this, so they think fewer heroes posthumously.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 4 September 2013 22: 36 New
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          Quote: go
          A thermal imager can be detected if it is alive.

          And if you did not apply thermal masking tools that already exist. It’s difficult to use them in motion, and when he’s lying down, it’s generally no problem.
  23. vietnam7
    vietnam7 4 September 2013 07: 04 New
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    Quote: bask
    Why for this sculpt BTR-80/82 I do not understand. Everyone wants to make an economy class armored vehicles.
    Because for this typhoon they ask for more than for Amerov’s shouting, with a lower level of protection and functionality, 80 years ago in a series, the production has been worked out to the smallest detail, and about the blasting it is still unknown who will be more secure.
  24. Kukota
    Kukota 4 September 2013 09: 04 New
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    "The machine is equipped with an echolocation station" smile

    I wonder why everyone is so worn with mines? A KSV commando from a kilometer will make a couple of shots at a rocket - and that’s it, the task is completed.
  25. vietnam7
    vietnam7 4 September 2013 12: 42 New
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    Quote: Kukota
    "The machine is equipped with an echolocation station" smile

    I wonder why everyone is so worn with mines? A KSV commando from a kilometer will make a couple of shots at a rocket - and that’s it, the task is completed.
    Yeah, especially under Nizhny Tagil, find the area where in the taiga visibility and conditions for launching a missile saboteurs more than a kilometer? They searched for us for 2 years (how they looked for details) and found a couple more planes and helicopters from the 80s. Yes, and a saboteur with a rocket will have to take root in peacetime, and not one, but a person 18-25, at least.
  26. Moore
    Moore 4 September 2013 16: 34 New
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    Quote: bask
    Quote: Moore
    and not as a platform for shooting anything ...

    The project, Typhoon-K, created KAMAZ as a platform for shooting something.
    KamAZ-63969 6/6 and a load capacity of 3 tons. Reservation protects 14,5 mm caliber bullets. Mine protection of an armored car from 8 kg in t / e. The crew of 2 people, landing about 10 people. It is clear that has not yet passed the test. But for escorting columns and an anti-sabotage vehicle, it will do just fine, and with the installation of PM.

    True, the design of KamAZ -6369 really resembles the Belgian BTR SIBMAS 6/6. But this is not scary, the main thing is testing and mass production.

    Nothing that you consider a slightly different KAMAZ? Not the one we were talking about?
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