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Water trap

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Flooding in the Far East continues to break records, leaving the strongest mark not only on the economy, but also on the social sphere of a huge region. Floods and torrential rains from Blagoveshchensk to Magadan led to the flooding of hundreds of settlements, leaving thousands of locals homeless. The element has deprived people of not only housing, but also all available reserves, increased the risk of foci of infectious diseases, paralyzed traffic, led to disruptions in communication lines, deprived many schoolchildren and students of the opportunity to sit at their schools. According to the most modest estimates, the damage caused to the economy of the Khabarovsk Territory, the Jewish Autonomous Region, the Magadan and Amur regions exceeded 35 billion rubles. At the same time, the peak of the flood, as stated by Roshydromet, is still ahead. And despite the fact that in Khabarovsk, the water has already stepped over the 797 cm mark, and Komsomolsk-on-Amur flooded a measuring pole with a height of 8 meters. Such colossal volumes of water are also filled with groundwater, which add their centimeters to the level of flooding through eroded underground wells.


Water trap


Valery Ignatenko reports (the head of one of the peasant farms, Khabarovsk Territory):

To defend their homes and farm, worked without interruption. Poured sandbags and created an artificial dam. When the sand in the village ended, they asked one of the construction companies of the Khabarovsk Territory to help us with the delivery of the material - to help not for free. We agreed to help, but only the price proposal was such that we had to refuse it. Instead of sand used construction waste that remained from the construction of the village club. While we are doing it on our own, but if the water continues to flow, it is unlikely to stand.


This short narration suggests that even in the midst of a great human tragedy there are people who are trying to extract personal benefit from it. While some people are trying to share with the flood victims, what is called the last: sending or passing warm things, medicines, food, rubber shoes, others are looking for an opportunity not to miss the "tucked" opportunity to earn. Call it disgusting - perhaps even softly.

Ordinary residents of the flooded region fear higher prices for food, drinking water and other essential goods. Khabarovsk authorities claim that such fears of citizens are in vain. The mayor's office says that the situation with prices in stores and pharmacies is under control, and if the owner of one of the outlets decides to “cheat up” the price, he is immediately summoned to the administrative carpet for an “educational conversation”. Deputy mayor of Khabarovsk Sergey Kazachenko notes that the administration conducts its own monitoring of prices in the city, and also hopes for the help of the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and ordinary citizens. The press service of the regional Ministry of Internal Affairs urge residents of the city and region to share information about the unreasonable over-pricing of essential goods, using the telephone in Khabarovsk 38-73-87.

Residents of the region suffering from the flood are not only afraid of price increases, but also looting. It is because of the fear of losing the last saved property that many residents of the Amur region are afraid to leave their flooded houses. To combat marauders in the Amur Region and the Khabarovsk Territory, not only police officers and voluntary detachments from among local residents are involved, but also special technical equipment. For several days, patrols of the flooded areas are conducted using small UAVs equipped with video cameras and thermal imagers. This equipment allows you to use equipment even in the dark. With the help of the UAV, the identities of people who were involved in the theft of wires overhead power lines in the Amur region and in the Khabarovsk Territory were established.

In order to increase the intensity of the work on identifying marauders, Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev arrived in the Amur Region for a special meeting gathered by Vladimir Putin. At the same meeting, President Putin called measures to eliminate the consequences of flooding in the FEFD the most important state task. The head of state, to put it mildly, recommended the officials to break away from their easy chairs, put on rubber boots and find out on the spot what kind of help you need to give to the local population.

Putin raised the issue of feeding people who were relocated to evacuation points. Quoting the content of the letters, the president said that if food for flood victims is not properly adjusted, then he himself will have to transfer certain officials to the balanda.

Already after a short period of time, Minister Topilin reported on the task, stating that the situation with food at evacuation points was really not the best. Immediately after that, it was decided to allocate from the Rosrezerv an additional about 20 tons of products, which were urgently delivered to temporary shelters for people whose homes were flooded.

Due to the fact that the supply of drinking water to flood-affected areas is on schedule (as stated by local authorities), local doctors say that there is no point in waiting for an increase in the number of infectious diseases. At the same time, doctors call on people who are not in a hurry to leave their flooded homes, are more attentive to personal sanitation and hygiene, and also to think about urgent vaccination. The main thing, the doctors emphasize, is to use only clean boiled water and refuse to stay in the “big water” for a long time. At the same time, local residents do not always understand how to talk about careful attention to sanitation and hygiene, if water is often not enough to boil, and in order to get to the nearest store, water has to be forded.

Elena Kudryashova reports:

I had to go on a rescue boat to the school, where they have now equipped a temporary accommodation center. The house in the village was abandoned because there is no opportunity to cook and just wash. Only the attic, where the children and I lived the first time, was left unburied. The garden was flooded, we still held the bird - it all died.




Since many schools in the region have become temporary accommodation for people who have lost their homes, it was decided to send local schoolchildren to study in those areas that were not flooded. After what time they will be able to return for their desks - a question that cannot be answered in any department.

In the strengthening of dams, the pressure on which increases literally every minute, the units of the Ministry of Defense are sent. Soldiers serving in conscription are involved in laying sandbags, helping in setting ferries, evacuating local residents to undeveloped areas.

The trouble in the Far East makes one wonder: was it possible to prepare for the flood in advance, and if yes, then why practically no measures were taken to this end? Why were many houses erected in the so-called water protection zone literally a few meters from Amur, and why did the local administration not pay any attention to this?

After getting acquainted with the information on the conditions under which the hydrological service on the Amur is forced to work (and this is a kind of semi-drum in which research equipment has a long pole and ruler), the situation with the fact that the flood has missed, by and large does not look surprising. ...

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  1. Quiet
    Quiet 3 September 2013 08: 04 New
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    They agreed to help, but only the price offer was such that we had to refuse it.

    These are the "values" that would-be democrats are trying to impose on us ... Is it humanly ??? The Russians have always valued disinterestedness. The cry "Help the whole world" lives only in Russia !!
    1. Aryan
      Aryan 3 September 2013 13: 12 New
      +2
      flying over those edges
      and in late May and early June from a height it was visible
      that many rivers are still covered with ice
      and hills covered with snow
      see everything to this and went
      but for some reason, I’m an amateur and a curious tourist with a photo library, I thought about it
      from the experience of such situations in our Carpathian region
      and professionals from the power of the Far East
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 3 September 2013 16: 16 New
        +1
        Carpathian ... remember the flood in the Lena River basin about 10 years ago. same. ice did not wash away and hello flood. plus a few more factors.
      2. Airman
        Airman 3 September 2013 20: 44 New
        +3
        Quote: Aryan
        flying over those edges
        and in late May and early June from a height it was visible
        that many rivers are still covered with ice
        and hills covered with snow
        see everything to this and went
        but for some reason, I’m an amateur and a curious tourist with a photo library, I thought about it
        from the experience of such situations in our Carpathian region
        and professionals from the power of the Far East

        You forget about the main culprit of such a flood - this is RusHydro, whose management did not "dump" excess water on time before the start of the "rainy season", although forecasters gave such forecasts. And then they had to "dump" 5000 cubic meters. m per second, calculate how many million cubic meters per day it is - 432000000, and this is from each hydroelectric power station. If THIS WATER remained in the reservoirs, THIS FLOOD would not exist.
        1. Dilshat
          Dilshat 3 September 2013 23: 43 New
          +1
          Why is the version of the flood due to the fact that the Chinese are strengthening their shore is not voiced?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 5 September 2013 06: 03 New
            0
            Quote: Dilshat
            Why is the version of the flood due to the fact that the Chinese are strengthening their shore is not voiced?

            Because this is nonsense!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 September 2013 06: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Quiet
      ? The Russians have always valued disinterestedness. The cry "Help the whole world" lives only in Russia !!

      Well, yes, yes, look at the news of Khabarovsk, the price of tomatoes was 100 r, and there were 30, parking 300 days and payment is taken in advance for a month, but it was 100 wink
  2. krasin
    krasin 3 September 2013 08: 12 New
    -13
    The main thing the fighters and the Ministry of Emergency Situations connected and the government immediately with the help. People were not abandoned, there is help.
    Everything will be fine. Then they will remember with a smile and laughter! wink
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 3 September 2013 08: 53 New
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      Quote: krasin
      Everything will be fine. Then they will remember with a smile and laughter!


      Funny to pain. Instead of building dams and dams, they invest state money in championships and olympiads. Refuse them from the president, there is a good reason in the country there is trouble people have nowhere to live and winter is on the nose, the day before yesterday we started collecting money, though I don’t even want to think how much they will reach the destination.
      1. Far East
        Far East 3 September 2013 11: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: Vadivak
        we started collecting money the day before yesterday, though I don’t even want to think how much it will reach the destination.

        good hi thank you very much, ALL! to all kind people! with respect. hi
      2. gen-48
        gen-48 3 September 2013 14: 21 New
        +9
        Painfully funny is true. I totally agree with you. God bless her. With the Olympics. The flywheel is running and cannot be stopped. As for the 2018 World Cup, then it must be abandoned before it's too late. Refuse, spitting on the screams that rise from all sides. In one film the phrase "Bolivar will not stand two" sounded. This is the very case. Helping its citizens during this terrible disaster (the scale of the tragedy is much more terrible than shown on TV) is more important than the ephemeral prestige of the state. Moreover, we are talking about the Far East, which is already emptying before our eyes. After all, many, abandoning everything, will leave there in the next year and a half, if the state does not provide comprehensive assistance. A feast during the plague is not needed.
      3. krasin
        krasin 3 September 2013 17: 59 New
        -5
        He lived in the village, in 1986 the river went out of the riverbed, drove up to the house for a month on the boat. I got insurance and you think I cried a little. You didn’t hurt it, and you sitting at the computer, you’re woeful, crying. I repeat once again for pessimists -People polt will laugh with laughter! And do not hell to me minus the griefs!
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 3 September 2013 18: 23 New
          +6
          Quote: krasin
          And don’t fuck me minus

          Yes, fucking compose right now !!!
          Enrage already started.
          Where was your house in the water for a month?
          Do you even know what a private house is after a month in the water ???
          Fuck what will remain of him, he is all covered in "soap". Horseradish furniture, horseradish garden, horseradish buildings
          He received insurance and danced for joy ...
          Do you know what a "slime" is to remove from the ground after a flood ??? Until you remove it, you cannot live there.
          People have trouble.
          Winter is in 2 months, but there are NO cattle and crops. Potatoes NO. HOUSE RAW.
          -40 for those edges is the norm.
          Our officer died in such circumstances, help, not to mention civilians.
          But the flood has not yet ended in the Far East.
          Pah-pah, so as not to make fun.
          And he sings - everything is fine, beautiful marquise, “smile and wave”, you will soon laugh ...
          You can squeeze when you drown the lisaped drunk, and not when you lose your HOUSE and household.
          Insurance ... heh.
          The scribe came up with ...
          I apologize if only ...
          1. Garrin
            Garrin 3 September 2013 19: 59 New
            +4
            Quote: Aleks tv
            Winter is in 2 months, but there are NO cattle and crops. Potatoes NO. HOUSE RAW.
            -40 for those edges is the norm.

            He lived in Belogorsk, though 40 years ago. If my memory serves me right, frosts (serious) begin there in late September - early October. And about -40 and below, I remember that for sure.
          2. igor.borov775
            igor.borov775 4 September 2013 01: 41 New
            +2
            Yes, stop reacting, he has no idea (a dancer) what the trouble is, he just avoided it so he wanted to of course there would have been less, It’s a misfortune on a state scale if it’s not clear the local authorities will not be able to cope without the help of the state, someone here he squeezed that it would really require non-standard solutions, and not only huge efforts of the state would really be required here ,,
      4. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 3 September 2013 18: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        we started collecting money the day before yesterday

        Vadim, where are you listing?
        Tell me, pliz, I hope it's not a secret.
    2. Quiet
      Quiet 3 September 2013 09: 10 New
      +4
      . Then they will remember with a smile and laughter!

      Well, we’ll have a direct laugh at the grief of people who died, who remained homeless before winter itself. You're not right !!!
    3. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 3 September 2013 09: 25 New
      +3
      These buildings do not live, do not stand ..
    4. Dober
      Dober 3 September 2013 09: 28 New
      +6
      Quote: krasin
      Then they will remember with a smile and a laugh!

      Sorry, but only a very degenerate type can pronounce such words. Like a homeless person on your profile picture.
      Do you seriously believe that the state can fully "compensate" for the loss of PEOPLE? How can you "measure" the grief of a man who builds a house with his own hands, which will collapse from dampness in a couple of months. Here will be "laughter" ...
      And how many elderly people lost their health irrevocably from heart attacks and strokes. Where are these statistics?
      What are the losses of the same agricultural and farmers, who are head over heels into debt to banks for the future harvest, and who receive pennies from the "state" with which they can only cover interest and penalties.
      Watch out for the "broom" please. There are not some very wealthy tourists like in Thailand who lost their suitcases with panties and sunblock. There are people, ordinary people ...
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 3 September 2013 09: 36 New
        +4
        Quote: Dober
        Like a homeless person on your profile picture.


        This is not a bum.
        1. Dober
          Dober 3 September 2013 09: 50 New
          +3
          Quote: Vadivak
          This is not a bum.

          What is this? Reflection in the mirror or a screenshot from the web.
          Then my condolences to the owner of this "disgusting face". crying
          Plastic medicine is powerless, psychiatry too ...

          Of course, I understand that "don't drink water from your face" and "it tastes like net color", but this is overkill ...
          1. Quiet
            Quiet 3 September 2013 12: 54 New
            +1
            What is this? Reflection in the mirror or screenshot from the web

            Maybe one of the options "Squirrels" ????? wassat laughing lol
        2. krasin
          krasin 3 September 2013 18: 09 New
          0
          Are you good or a stupid person or just fooling around!
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 3 September 2013 10: 48 New
        -5
        Oh woe to me! I built such a house that it fell from the slow erosion! Well yes, woe. Woe to the builder, crooked hands and a bad head - grief. Farmer insured risks? Oh no? So let it grieve.
        A normal person, especially a Russian in such a situation, should not shed tears and grieve. Close ones died? Homeland in danger? What grief for the jesters, what kind of snot is in syrup ?! It is shameful to read this pathetic pathos.
        Flooding - DIFFICULTIES. What should a man do with them? For the jerks directly - they must be overcome. Get to work and overcome, that's all. First to throw idiotic jumps along the shore with bags - have you seen enough on the telly of a European dubai? It is necessary to create sites for temporary storage of valuables on the heights! Fix firewood with piles and nets, cook equipment ...
        The state will give both money and help; it has both. The grief in the first place is that the number of armless and pathos panicking jerks is off the charts, it seems that we no longer have Russia, but Belgium! Damn what ...
        1. abdrah
          abdrah 3 September 2013 12: 10 New
          +6
          Notice which areas were flooded the most - either the barracks (temporary housing) that were built for certain purposes or a remake near the river, in a beautiful place. The old villages where people lived for a long time are practically invisible since from ancient times people settled near the water, but in places that it does not flood. The lands where the large water reached were used in the agricultural sector, but nobody would have thought of building housing on them.
          In this situation, of course, there is the fault of people hoping for a chance, who built housing in the flood zone, but still those who allocated them these lands for development must be judged and recover material damage.
        2. Quiet
          Quiet 3 September 2013 20: 10 New
          +1
          For jerks directly - they need to be overcome

          And what do you command the feeble old people to do, whose son may have died while doing his duty ?? . The state does not care about them !!!! The neighbors, too, remained on the street themselves without help .... To drive everyone to nursing homes where injections quickly bring them to the grave ??? .
      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 3 September 2013 14: 45 New
        0
        Quote: Dober
        Sorry, but only a very degenerate type can pronounce such words.

        Quote: Dober
        How can you "measure" the grief of a man who builds a house with his own hands, which will collapse from dampness in a couple of months. Here will be "laughter" ...

        excuse rudeness and stupidity, they said that grief cannot be measured, neither in this, nor in any other case, but I myself have been in situations that we don’t have to laugh, but if you live grief all the time you can just go crazy, and for many situations after a while sometimes even not so big you start to look with a smile.
      4. krasin
        krasin 3 September 2013 18: 08 New
        -2
        People died, no, it’s necessary, the rest is a matter of gain!
    5. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 3 September 2013 12: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: krasin
      Then they will remember with a smile and a laugh!

      You, Vladimir, probably do not know what a flood is ...
      When they tear off the military from the PAP, it means the scribe came to civilian, for example - there is nothing to eat.
      And when the president sticks out there - it means the situation is worse than ... the scribe.

      From myself I will add:
      -We have in Transbaikalia, when an SMP crossing was directed to high water in the spring, an officer died ...
      -Civilians were left without gardens, cattle, washed houses ...
      -In the fields, everything was washed away ...
      -And here is autumn. I bring to your attention that in those parts winter is coming soon, it is severe in those places. The ice on Argun, Shilka and Amur is already rising in early November ...
      There are many villages in the deltas of these rivers; historically, they were built near the river - the main delivery there was "by water" and "by ice" and not by roads.

      This is in short. Smile and laugh, right?
      1. Quiet
        Quiet 3 September 2013 12: 59 New
        0
        worse than ... a scribe.

        Worse than a scribe - only a "paragraph" ??? negative
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 3 September 2013 14: 50 New
        0
        Quote: Aleks tv
        You, Vladimir, probably do not know what a flood is ...

        Do you think there is a fundamental difference to die in a fire from a flood or in an avalanche ?!
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 3 September 2013 14: 59 New
          +4
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Do you think there is a fundamental difference to die in a fire from a flood or in an avalanche ?!

          Sorry, Vladimir Ivanovich, but nifiga did not understand your question.
          It is essentially rhetorical, it is possible to die from anything.

          And the "gaiety" of krasin jarred.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 3 September 2013 15: 53 New
            -2
            it’s just not necessary at all to know what a flood is, it’s enough to survive in principle difficult situations in order to understand that you will treat them differently over time
            1. Aleks tv
              Aleks tv 3 September 2013 16: 17 New
              +1
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              enough to survive in principle difficult situations, in order to understand that over time you will treat them differently

              It happens differently.
              It happens as you say, but in such a disaster ...
              Not soon, they are still smiling.

              A strong people live there, they themselves know when to survive, and when it will be possible to have fun.

              No need to teach them how to relate to life - This is said rhetorically, and not in relation to you.
      3. hanc
        hanc 3 September 2013 15: 17 New
        +5
        Aleks!
        Thank you for the only reasonable comment!
        Maybe this is because you in Transbaikalia better understand what autumn is in the Far East and such a flood.
        I advise the rest of the fun people and theorists because of the Garden Ring - take yourself out of comfortable chairs, get out from behind the monitors and come to us, in Komsomolsk-on-Amur! And you will build yourself here, on the site of the theory: which villages and cities he built, who is to blame and who is right, etc.
        Gentlemen, don’t have to bother, but think that a 2-thousand city and hundreds of villages fall under flooding, and at the end of September we have a small minus at night - this is the norm. And people still have to endure the winter with frosts under 40. That's it.
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 3 September 2013 15: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: hanc
          You are in Transbaikalia

          Greetings, Alexander.

          I served there and took part more than once in helping people with floods.
          Total seen enough ...
          Now I live in the Urals.

          Good luck to you in Komsomolsk-on-Amur !!!
    6. alone
      alone 3 September 2013 17: 03 New
      +1
      what is going on there, remembering with a smile and laughter! negative
    7. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 3 September 2013 17: 17 New
      +4
      What he writes about, what a smile is, Tragedy and misfortune of thousands of people are played out There, they lose everything, Already now the question is how to help people survive the winter and there it is not like in the center of the country, Reading this Mr. Krasin, I’m just wondering how your health is I don’t ask about the moral side, the President admitted that such a scale hadn’t existed yet, It’s probably not for nothing that government representatives and authorized persons constantly appear there, The water is very bad and the temperature starts to drop, and people urgently need to be placed somewhere until spring and heated there are children where they can get away from older parents and small ones, No one knows for sure how to end it all, but the damage is enormous, And some just have no idea what kind of snow it’s definitely out of topic, The Far East was covered with heavy rains for some 3 months the whole region received so much water on top of how much and there wasn’t for a year, And the rise went like that just well there wasn’t such a thing and if it was then now with seg one day it’s just a trifle, and if there were spills practically or in the beginning of summer or spring, I must say it was like that before, but it just overturned everything that we knew about such an element, Even the Magadan region came under the distribution of water there sometimes you can admire the snow it please sometimes it happens but no one remembers this, thanks to Sakhalin staying away from Kamchatka,
    8. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 3 September 2013 18: 14 New
      +3
      Yes, there’s definitely something to laugh about with the psyche, There, before our eyes, the tragedy of thousands of people of our strangers is played out, It just bothers me from what they write here, How many people have so many opinions but there are moral opinions that can’t be corrected, In the Far East of the country, the tragedy of simple people People, Thousands were left without anything, but this is not the end. Water goes on there, too, they are being prepared, but it’s not known how everything will turn out. Now the main problem is how to help people survive the winter and not freeze it. It’s very close (winter). Reading some written thoughts, I’m amazed at what they’re writing. One of the taldychits is definitely off topic; the other is assenting to him the authorities are to blame; one is looking for some barracks; he just went crazy; Misfortune came to our east and is much more serious than they think, For three months so much water has spilled that completely blocked the annual norm, Of course, no one is to blame I didn’t know what would be prepared as we knew what would be like every year, And then the bummer flow went so that all the past preparations for water reflection they just drowned, And if there hadn’t been a hydroelectric power station, nobody knows what would have been, Damage inflicted is colossal never happened before now not everyone understood later, 60% of soybeans drowned and this is the granary of Siberia and the Far East, It’s not just soya this is agriculture on a large territory and feed and much more, And the trouble does not come alone Ahead of winter, something needs to be settled and people somehow, not left alone with such misfortune, Yes, and the struggle continues no one knows what will happen next getting ready for the worst, And mind you, even the Magadan region also received not weak water there you can get snow in the summer for pleasure it happens and here it’s not weak on the water, It’s just happiness that did not affect Sakhalin and Kamchatka, It seems that the water is cold and the temperature starts quickly fall off on what to laugh, Already according to the statement of Skvortsova, our Minister of Health, about 3 thousand people were hospitalized, the fact that there is much more serious evidence is that the Ministers constantly ply into the affected areas for something we’re on the spot to solve everything faster without burden, I am simply amazed by the yellow press, there are no loud revelations, there are no accusations like they should, but no prosecutor’s office and other oversight bodies manage faster than a scandal has time to mature and people are no longer the same as a year ago; offense, I wish those who have lost everything not to despair, help will not be left in trouble,
  3. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 3 September 2013 08: 30 New
    +6
    At 05:00 Moscow time, the Amur level is 805 mm peak on September 3-9 ...
    Quote: krasin
    Then they will remember with a smile and a laugh!

    If you think that before the onset of winter, losing the HOUSE where you live is ridiculous, why laugh ... request
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 3 September 2013 14: 55 New
      -5
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      If you think that before the onset of winter, losing the HOUSE where you live is ridiculous, why laugh ...

      it’s not funny and no one laughs at it and it’s unlikely to laugh, but the neighbors will laugh with laughter, remember how grandfather Yegor ran in shorts in the yard and caught a pig as a grandfather Yegor wakes up to laugh at this as he sentencing a chicken Claudia I couldn’t catch, it’s absolutely normal
  4. tttttt
    tttttt 3 September 2013 08: 50 New
    +4
    As far as I understand, this catastrophe in the light of geopolitical events and "anomalous natural phenomena" over the past 2 years can be counted as parasites for an attempt to use climate weapons? To clean up the Far East and Siberia is their dream.
    1. Quiet
      Quiet 3 September 2013 09: 12 New
      +3
      this is their blue dream.

      What kind of people are these thoughts ....
    2. Dober
      Dober 3 September 2013 09: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: tttttt
      can parasites be counted as an attempt to use climate weapons? To clean the Far East and Siberia is their blue dream.

      Are you talking about the Chinese now?
      Involuntarily, the thought comes of rehearsing the preparation of the territory for the installation of rice checks.

      Planet is getting rid of people ... It is getting rid.
      It turns out that it is not so easy to live even in seemingly "favorable" regions. Comparable to a massive enemy air raid.
      For all the will of God ... To people of patience and health !!!
    3. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 3 September 2013 09: 20 New
      +1
      Frankly speaking, I visited the thought of sowing; after all, China is under water, and these are two "bosom friends" of the amers today ... hi
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 3 September 2013 09: 30 New
        +7
        Quote: Valery Neonov
        because China is under water,


        And no.

        Over the past few years, more than 500 kilometers of hydraulic structures have been built on the Chinese coast of the Amur without the approval of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, says Anatoly Yurchenko, head of the water management department of the Amur Basin Water Authority. - According to the observations of hydrologists, such activity of the Chinese side leads to a redistribution of the flow in the Amur and Ussuri, especially during the flood period. As a result, the water hits the lower unshrunken Russian coast, eroding it and significantly shifting the channel towards Russia.

        In June, preparatory work on the selection of a site for the construction of a nuclear power plant was completed in the province of Heilongjiang bordering the Far East. According to Chinese media reports, a two-unit nuclear power plant will be built in a village in the vicinity of Harbin. The Chinese claim that it will not be dangerous, and wastewater will not affect the quality of water in the Sungari, which flows into the Amur River, 280 kilometers upstream of Khabarovsk.

        So the Chinese drown us, or ours as you like.


        2004 year. President Putin orders the transfer of Tarabarov Island and parts of Greater Ussuri to China.
        year 2009. The inhabitants of the Middle Kingdom continue to conduct active work on their territory to change the riverbed.
        2010 year. Hydraulic work is ongoing. At a meeting of the Russian-Chinese border commission, representatives of the People's Republic of China come forward with a proposal to review the state border line between Russia and China in 160 sections of the Amur and Uss rivers
        1. old man54
          old man54 3 September 2013 18: 04 New
          0
          for your comment "+" is unambiguous, but what is it ???
          Quote: Vadivak
          Hydraulic work is ongoing.
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 4 September 2013 03: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Valery Neon
        Frankly speaking, I visited the thought of sowing; after all, China is under water, and these are two "bosom friends" of the amers today ... hi
        Maybe the amers also arranged Hurricane Sandy themselves? If you have such thoughts, you need to be treated.
    4. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 3 September 2013 13: 49 New
      +1
      for attempting to use climate weapons

      As they say, removed from the tongue. smile With one amendment, that this does not seem to be an attempt to use, but the use of climate weapons. IMHO, of course.
      hi
  5. anip
    anip 3 September 2013 09: 13 New
    +3
    This short narration suggests that even in the midst of a great human tragedy there are people who are trying to extract personal benefit from it. While some people are trying to share with the flood victims, what is called the last: sending or passing warm things, medicines, food, rubber shoes, others are looking for an opportunity not to miss the "tucked" opportunity to earn. Call it disgusting - perhaps even softly.

    This is called "doing business effectively".
    To be honest, I would like to wish that construction company to drown with all the giblets.

    The trouble in the Far East makes one wonder: was it possible to prepare for the flood in advance, and if yes, then why practically no measures were taken to this end? Why were many houses erected in the so-called water protection zone literally a few meters from Amur, and why did the local administration not pay any attention to this?

    I’m even embarrassed to assume: bablosy-bablosy ??
    1. VasDA
      VasDA 3 September 2013 09: 31 New
      +1
      The houses were erected a very long time ago ... Here they do not pay attention to such drafts.
      In 1984, in Khabarovsk there was an increase in the Amur level to 620 cm. The coastal areas of the city were flooded. After that, for several years, a dam was built from the city center to the south (it is also known as Pionerskaya Street, the one that is now blocked), in the lowest part which can withstand a level of 660 cm.
      As for the weather services ... Well, what can we talk about if the entire meteorological observation system was destroyed throughout the whole country and has not yet been restored? This problem has long been talked about. But this is one of the most important strategic tasks for our vast country. And there are few satellites. Weather stations are needed, and the development of technology allows them to be made automatic and does not require the presence of personnel (maybe I'm wrong and this is already being done).
  6. VasDA
    VasDA 3 September 2013 09: 19 New
    14
    A few words .. As a Khabarovsk resident ...
    And there is bad too .. But ... Life goes on and everything goes on ... Now in greater danger Komsomolsk-on-Amur ... the geography there is such that the Amur riverbed narrows (the Khabarovsk river still has a lot to spill) , from the right bank are solid hills ...
    Khabarovsk lives and continues to work. Boys (that's a tireless tribe smile ) make rafts from fallen fences and set sail on flooded roads, women give birth, there is communication, there are full shelves in the shops and there is no hype, many private entrepreneurs bring food to the construction sites of dams for soldiers, rescuers and volunteers. Yes, with the closure of one of of the three roads connecting the southern part of the city with the center, traffic jams are terrible and I started to go 30-40 minutes earlier to work ... But it doesn’t matter ... But the fact that winter is just around the corner and you can’t be caught in the cold drying at home is a big risk. This is where we look at what our fathers-commanders are suitable for ...
    News from the Far East resembles front-line reports: today water has left 4 settlements, parts of the Ministry of Emergencies and Moscow Region have restored 17 sections of roads and 4 automobile bridges. so far, restoration is ongoing in Amur and began in the Jewish Autonomous Oblast. Soon, our time will come to clean and clean the city before winter.
    As for the beginning of the school year ... It is not disrupted ... children and students went to study like the whole country on September 2 ... Those who are not in their native schools are in neighboring or rest camps, where some of the children are accommodated, educational process organized ...
    I hope the lesson of Krymsk was not in vain for the authorities. By the way, the residents of Krymsk, who survived the same tragedy, were the first to respond to our misfortune and began to collect funds and things. They already understand what "we got into a puddle".
    ----------
    At 08-00 a.m. local (01-00 Moscow time) the level of Amur at Khabarovsk was 802 cm (the historical maximum until this year was 648 cm).
    Erupt! I am writing this, looking out of the window at the wide expanse of the majestic Cupid-priest ... Nevertheless, we still have a beautiful river ...
    1. Dober
      Dober 3 September 2013 09: 40 New
      +5
      Quote: VasDA
      winter is just around the corner and before the cold, you can not have time to dry the victims home - a big risk.

      Think about it. Until "what cold weather" ... Yes, there must be at least one and a half years. Under the constant sun and warm draft.
      In winter, these houses, soaked in moisture, will be torn apart by frosts "into atoms" and real destruction will only follow.
      You will not envy people. Now the wallpaper will be reshaped and the floors will be redone, and in a year or two there will be cracks in the foundations and walls patching.
      How is this "compensated" for you?
      Hold on and submit collective demands to housing and communal organizations for a serious check of housing conditions today. Putin will leave, tomorrow they will forget about you ...
      Patience, health and good luck "!!! Oh-how will you need all this ...
  7. Fitter65
    Fitter65 3 September 2013 09: 28 New
    +5
    Quote: krasin
    Then they will remember with a smile and a laugh!

    Honestly, she doesn’t smile when water arrives at 20-30 centimeters a day. On Thursday, the water was in the gardens, and today it is already in the attic. It’s all 2 km from my doorstep, three of my friends left what they managed to take out, mostly household appliances. Khan's furniture, hay and firewood are floating down the Amur, catfish are digging up potatoes with catfish. There really is only a laugh and a smile when the water comes down. There is no firewood, there are no blanks for the winter, there is no fodder for cattle, there is no potato on the market for how much there will be? Cattle without food one road under the knife, there will be a lot of meat, purchase prices will fall unequivocally, there are no market prices. They forget the cows, how much will it cost? Veselukha ... We had 9.00cm in Komsomolsk at two o'clock for another day and two it’ll flood the road into the city. Yesterday I was driving, a persecuted greenhouse floated along the road with a wind, then a metal garage, the greenhouse was washed ashore, but the garage drowned
    1. VasDA
      VasDA 3 September 2013 09: 36 New
      +1
      So let's see if the Russian Far East is needed or not.
      1. Dober
        Dober 3 September 2013 09: 46 New
        +5
        Quote: VasDA
        need the Far East of Russia or not.

        Everyone needs him. I mean the state. In terms of resources. Not human ...
        You yourself understand that Russia and its rulers are sometimes incompatible things ...
        1. VasDA
          VasDA 3 September 2013 09: 56 New
          +3
          and again I repeat ...
          "Vladivostok is a distant city, but NASHENSKY!" (C) V.I. Lenin. This is how modern politicians need to think about ALL the Far East. And also remember that there is Kamchatka, Sakhalin, Kuriles, Chukotka in the Far East ...
          1. Far East
            Far East 3 September 2013 11: 53 New
            0
            Quote: VasDA
            And also remember that in the Far East there is Kamchatka, Sakhalin, the Kuril Islands, Chukotka ...

            good good good drinks
  8. maestro123
    maestro123 3 September 2013 10: 04 New
    0
    Quote: tttttt
    As far as I understand, this catastrophe in the light of geopolitical events and "anomalous natural phenomena" over the past 2 years can be counted as parasites for an attempt to use climate weapons? To clean up the Far East and Siberia is their dream.

    Think sober))) This is not the first flood, in 1989, in 2001, Primorye drowned. Ussuri then rose well, there are typhoons about a month.
    PS
    Sea zone, pacific ocean.
    Now Cupid has risen.
    There is still the Lena River in the Far East.

    It is necessary to build dams and dams, think over everything to the government and draw conclusions, so as not to step on your rake.
  9. rugor
    rugor 3 September 2013 10: 43 New
    +5
    This is for us not to forget who the true owner of the planet is. At such moments, you understand all the insignificance of our forces against the elements.
    1. O_RUS
      O_RUS 3 September 2013 20: 59 New
      0
      Quote: rugor
      At such moments, you understand all the insignificance of our forces against the elements.


      and not human hands is this thing?
  10. bars280
    bars280 3 September 2013 11: 49 New
    +5
    Guys, I live in Komsomolsk and today we were warned that water can rise up to 11 meters per night. If so, then the entire city center will go under water. Groundwater is already breaking out of the ground. Finally a pisezm.
  11. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 September 2013 12: 34 New
    +4
    The head of state, to put it mildly, recommended that officials tear themselves away from their soft chairs, put on rubber boots and find out on the spot what kind of help the local population should receive.


    Previously, it was necessary to tear them from the seats, and often drive them, with overgrown moss in some places. They are afraid to be in full view of the people. What if they are asked from them?
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 3 September 2013 14: 04 New
      +3
      In Komsomolsk-on-Amur, volunteers are actively coming out to help workers and rescuers. Of those buildings that are located in the lowlands, equipment is urgently transported to the premises on a hill. These are presses, galvanic installations, heat treatment. It is predicted that part of the plant will still be flooded.

      All local residents know that a very important facility is located in Komsomolsk - a branch of the Sukhoi company, the KnAAZ plant - the country's largest enterprise for the production of combat aircraft, including those for export. Now the plant produces Su-30MK2, Su-35 fighters, the T-50 front-line aviation complex and the Russian regional Sukhoi Superjet-100 aircraft. At the enterprise itself, they say that so far the flood has not affected the work of the plant in any way, but people are preparing for the worst development of events.

      - More than 140 units of equipment work at the city’s defenses, it is delivered from all industrial enterprises of the city and is busy dumping dams and transporting soil. 22 units of construction equipment came to the rescue, said Vladimir Mikhalev, head of the city administration. - Given the deteriorating situation every day, we requested a lot more equipment from the region, about 50 units. After all, our task is to prepare dams to the peak of the flood. We are experiencing considerable difficulties. Bulk dams are constantly saturated with water. To counter this, we have prepared bags and brigades that will lay these bags on defense lines.

      The 13-kilometer strip of fortifications is being built, one might say, "by the whole world." Amur's level grows by 17-20 cm per day. According to the forecast, by September 11-15, it may reach 980 cm.
  12. pensioner
    pensioner 3 September 2013 14: 03 New
    +2
    Yeah ... People can only sympathize ... How much can people already test for strength !! Yesterday information on fundraising to help the victims flashed in a running line and everything disappeared ... Who knows: where to transfer the money? We as a family decided to the best of our ability to help.
  13. Takashi
    Takashi 3 September 2013 15: 15 New
    +2
    means I explain to "alarmists".

    No one in the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur is not panicking, he is not running anywhere. Residents calmly, with great curiosity look at these wonders of Cupid.
    Voyages are made to the embankment, everything is photographed (direct photo studio in the air),
    water has already begun to flood the embankment itself. :) :)

    There will be no 11 meters. Alarmists - shoot yourself.

    City K stands on 3 terraces.
    1. In the flood zone - Lake. Mylki - in the 70s, a highway 9.50 meters high was washed through it to connect the city with a road bridge across the river. Now it is very funny sand. :) :) :)
    Also, o Mylki (maximum depth of 3-4 meters) spilled and flooded the Khumminskoye Highway (in principle, you can go, but we all have reinsurers) - this is closer to the hills, respectively - cottages, as well as all sorts of strange houses and buildings :): )
    2. Molodezhny settlement was in the flooding zone - the village arose in Soviet times in liquid meadows (strictly speaking, this is the Amur floodplain, old).
    3. Mendeleev's p was in the flooding zone. This village is also called the Old Square. In the 33s they tried to build an Aircraft Plant there, but the first autumn flood flooded everything and carried it away :) :) the construction site was moved inland. In the village there are - Freight port, timber industry, state farm Horpinsky. The village was barely breathing, mainly the private sector. In short, they won't stand up to him. Will flood.
    4. Also in the flood zone was the village of Victory. Protected by a dam (7 meters), the dam is standing, but the water has passed and the gardens have sailed. :( :( :(
    5. Fucking aircraft factory - no need to save. take a look at the map. The maximum that he faces is the flooding of fan, sewer, ... systems. Due to rising groundwater. After all, nearby is Horpi Lake (shallow lake).
    6. On the shore there is a shipyard - at around 8 meters, it has 3 more dry plates on the dam.
    1. VasDA
      VasDA 3 September 2013 15: 32 New
      +2
      Here I am about the same ... There is no panic in the Far East. NO! Afraid to be late. smile Water is already here. People as they can save themselves and meager belongings. Cities continue to live and work.
    2. VasDA
      VasDA 3 September 2013 15: 36 New
      0
      Voyages are made to the embankment, everything is photographed (direct photo studio in the air).


      Well, what without it? smile This is a historical event.
  14. lazy
    lazy 3 September 2013 15: 43 New
    +1
    flood on Amur is a common phenomenon flood lakes are flooded, fish go to spawn, I remember when Amur was in a low-water phase, people nodded at the Zeya and Bureya hydroelectric power plants and said, they are all damned reservoirs filling, now some "muddy the water" and they say flooding that the zeya and the storm dumped the water, but the capitalists need that in the winter the reservoirs be full, as much as they could fill, and if now the increased discharge is not more than it has come, in principle a school problem about 2 pipes and a pool, but how many remember the school years ?
  15. bars280
    bars280 3 September 2013 15: 49 New
    +2
    Quote: Takashi
    means I explain to "alarmists".

    No one in the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur is not panicking, he is not running anywhere. Residents calmly, with great curiosity look at these wonders of Cupid.
    Voyages are made to the embankment, everything is photographed (direct photo studio in the air),
    water has already begun to flood the embankment itself. :) :)

    There will be no 11 meters. Alarmists - shoot yourself.

    City K stands on 3 terraces.
    1. In the flood zone - Lake. Mylki - in the 70s, a highway 9.50 meters high was washed through it to connect the city with a road bridge across the river. Now it is very funny sand. :) :) :)
    Also, o Mylki (maximum depth of 3-4 meters) spilled and flooded the Khumminskoye Highway (in principle, you can go, but we all have reinsurers) - this is closer to the hills, respectively - cottages, as well as all sorts of strange houses and buildings :): )
    2. Molodezhny settlement was in the flooding zone - the village arose in Soviet times in liquid meadows (strictly speaking, this is the Amur floodplain, old).
    3. Mendeleev's p was in the flooding zone. This village is also called the Old Square. In the 33s they tried to build an Aircraft Plant there, but the first autumn flood flooded everything and carried it away :) :) the construction site was moved inland. In the village there are - Freight port, timber industry, state farm Horpinsky. The village was barely breathing, mainly the private sector. In short, they won't stand up to him. Will flood.
    4. Also in the flood zone was the village of Victory. Protected by a dam (7 meters), the dam is standing, but the water has passed and the gardens have sailed. :( :( :(
    5. Fucking aircraft factory - no need to save. take a look at the map. The maximum that he faces is the flooding of fan, sewer, ... systems. Due to rising groundwater. After all, nearby is Horpi Lake (shallow lake).
    6. On the shore there is a shipyard - at around 8 meters, it has 3 more dry plates on the dam.

    And where do you live ???? The city is shagging and does not panic, but we all dump. On the hill. KnAAPO had an official warning that there could be more than 11. Much more
  16. Fitter65
    Fitter65 3 September 2013 15: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Takashi
    Molodezhny settlement was in the flooding zone - the village arose in Soviet times in liquid meadows (strictly speaking, this is the Amur floodplain, the old

    Young people are almost all in the water, at the entrance of the water, Shkolnaya St. in the water on the roof. Now they are pouring a dam on the east side of the airport.
    Quote: Takashi
    Also, o Mylki (maximum depth of 3-4 meters) spilled and flooded the Khumminskoye Highway (in principle, you can go, but we all have reinsurers) - this is closer to the hills, respectively - cottages, as well as all sorts of strange houses and buildings :): )

    You can go along Khumminskoye highway But only through Hapsol, the poultry farm. Honestly, something isn’t pinning me to go on the water, though I tried to drive there on August 30.08, but decided to return. On Orlovskoye highway, there are two-way traffic, more than 60 , people are fishing almost from the side of the road. The detachment also begins to slowly sink. You rise to the railway embankment. You look, and there is one Cupid right up to the horizon ... Before the New World, from the side of the viaduct, the road is strengthened, its quiet water erodes. Where on Saturday I went to pick mushrooms, today a meter and a half water.
  17. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 3 September 2013 17: 10 New
    +1
    I hope that the flood will be a signal for a large-scale reconstruction and development of the Russian Far East precisely by Russians with large-scale construction projects, new roads, industries, etc.
  18. _arbit
    _arbit 3 September 2013 18: 46 New
    -2
    fools science. many knew what they were doing when they didn’t move from the barracks by the river (business at registration) or were built by the river when they were warned.
    1. piterkras
      piterkras 3 September 2013 22: 43 New
      0
      In Krymsk, too, those who pretended to get cheap land in the local depression also suffered in the first place.
  19. I am a Russian
    I am a Russian 3 September 2013 20: 28 New
    +2
    oust people from the land ... 2-3 years and give another piece of Russian land to narrow-eyed
    1. piterkras
      piterkras 3 September 2013 22: 42 New
      0
      Who is stronger is right. We don’t want to be fruitful - that's what they are doing.
  20. Fitter65
    Fitter65 4 September 2013 06: 52 New
    +2
    Quote: piterkras
    fools science. many knew what they were doing when they didn’t move from the barracks by the river (business at registration) or were built by the river when they were warned.

    And who and whom offered to relocate from these huts. The same village, Molodezhny was built and designed as a livestock and vegetable farm. We set up houses, people were lured with cheap housing and high salaries. But there came a hunchback and everything. Live the people as you want. and bypass locks, and water pumping stations, melerators every year cleaned the canals and watched dams. Therefore, they used to get rid of grazing, and some meadows before. By the way there are some super locks, there are more than one in the village. By the way today the village has partially evacuated. Water at the entrance arrived at the city solidly. In the Walk of Labor near the Drama Theater, water reaches the hub in the Niva.
    Well, sayings like
    Quote: I am a Russian
    2-3 years and another piece of Russian land will be given to narrow-eyed

    Before writing muck, you wouldn’t read a lot of history. From time immemorial, the Nanai people and other northern peoples have been here. The Russians have come here ... So this piece of land is not Russian, but RUSSIAN. And they lived here, live and will live people of different nationalities, citizens of RUSSIA. These quack-kryapatrioty, who knocking on the keyboard day and night, were stunned.
  21. Kavtorang
    Kavtorang 4 September 2013 10: 36 New
    +1
    Today, business partners came from Khabarovsk. I talked with them for half a day. They say that the embankment in the area of ​​the Amur Boulevard and the park began to flood yesterday and the situation in the city is very nervous. The price tags for local vegetables, milk and meat products have already gone into acceleration.
    Why are they talking only about Komsomolsk and Khabarovsk?
    Yes, here, in Primorye, there is no such flood, but here are a couple of three facts. I drove, just an hour ago, to the market for herbs: half a kilo of tomatoes, cucumbers and local sweet pepper, a bunch of onions, a hundred grams of dill and parsley, a small watermelon - 400 rubles. This is the Kamchatka price tag.
    Farmers, from whom I constantly buy, say that it will be worse - the harvest is lost. A former colleague called - a dacha in the village of Boets Kuznetsov (near Nakhodka) - calls for emergency recovery work. The dacha was practically destroyed, the soil layer was blown to hell, the road is such that his Mitsubishi Libero cannot pass, Forester - only without loading. All those who are engaged in summer cottages say: what is not washed away is rotten.
    The slanted "friends" at the level of the governors of the border territories have already said bluntly - there will be no balls, there is nothing to eat themselves.
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 4 September 2013 13: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Kavtorang
      Yes, here, in Primorye, there is no such flood, but here are a couple of three facts.

      Good luck to you...
      Sincerely.
  22. South
    South 4 September 2013 13: 56 New
    -1
    and the citizen of the Gundyaev (tobish metropolitan of all, etc., etc.) called this flood "baptism in water", and nothing, feels fine
  23. lazy
    lazy 4 September 2013 17: 27 New
    0
    Yes, in the Far East, you should expect a sharp increase in food prices, Amurka, EAO, but in general, the Amur floodplain was the breadbasket of the Far East, it was grown a lot in its gardens, now beets, beetroot cabbage, and washed in Northern China, much rotted in Primorye, it will bring golden potatoes from the central part, soybeans will also not, so sausages will rise in price.
  24. pavel_1774
    pavel_1774 5 September 2013 04: 19 New
    +2
    I report the situation
    Last night, a rumor went around the city that they would turn off cold water. The people began to be so filled with water that in some places it really ended because of the decrease in pressure in the highway
    In stores, clean up cereals, stew, and other products. Yesterday there was a shortage of drinking bottled water (due to the rumor of a blackout). Entrepreneurs are extremely pleased, prices have risen.
    They are trying to defend the city, in the area of ​​Mylki they are building a dam that will not allow to wash off the Railway Station area.
    In general, the city is not much higher than the maximum predicted flood level, so whoever doesn’t flood it can have water in the basements. And the cold will begin soon ...
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 6 September 2013 07: 15 New
      0
      Today, stupid people on RTR said that water continued to increase in the Amur Region, in Komsomolsk-on-Amur (although it was always the Khabarovsk Territory) another peak. Sukhoi Plant (damn it when the aircraft factory named after Yu.A. Gagarin was Sukhoi plant?) is threatened with the possibility of flooding. By threat of flooding, Komsomolsk-on-Amur Airport (I was in shock, it was normal in the evening, but now) No, at first NTV flooded us, UPPRM was evacuated a month ago, because it fell into the flood, now it flooded but it is 450 km from the strip. Now RTR drowns us. How did you get these blunts from Moscow. First, figure it out (in Komsomolsk- on Amur 10 airdromes is a jomga which is the aerodrome of an aircraft factory, which is in danger of flooding. The second airfield is Khurba, which is an AIRPORT in the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur.), and then report news, rather than rumors, that can cause people to panic.