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Glavkom Bondarev: Russian Air Force updatedThe business program of the MAKS-2013 air show is over. In the sky of Zhukovsky, an air show unfolded, to which thousands of spectators come from early morning, so the last events were held under the roar of jet engines. Lieutenant-General Viktor Bondarev, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force, became the main newsmaker of the last business day.


The situation in the Air Force, about which Viktor Bondarev spoke during the final press conference, can be described in one word - an update. In the coming years, the air force will receive new types of equipment, from front-line fighters to tankers, the commander-in-chief said. In this case, the conversation is not about units, but about dozens of aircraft, which the Ministry of Defense plans to purchase. The same tankers will go to the troops in the amount of forty pieces, said Viktor Bondarev:

“Work on this agreement is underway, this aircraft is being prepared, it will be called Il-478. With the new PS-90A engines, we will purchase about forty of them. Now we have come up with a proposal that this aircraft should not only be a tanker, it should be combined with the possibility of removing fueling equipment and installing another, for example for fire extinguishing. There should also be the possibility of landing from this aircraft. It must fulfill all the tasks facing the military transport aviation. I think we will begin procurement within three years. "

Answering the question "Voices of Russia" about the prospects for admission to the Air Force of the fifth-generation Russian fighter T-50, the commander-in-chief suggested that the new machine will appear in combat units in three years with a little. Now she faces a test in the army:

“T-50 will come to us for testing at the end of this year. At this MAKS, for the first time, the aircraft showed complex piloting, worked out by the company, and weapons systems were developed during flight tests. Now we will test it according to our program. years, or even earlier. From the seventeenth year, we plan to buy these planes and deliver them to our air force units. As for the further development of this generation of aircraft, Russia will not stop at that, we will be improving. knees, and following. "

A little longer will have to wait for the new plane to pilots of strategic aviation of Russia. The new bomber, developed under the program "Advanced Aviation Complex of Long-Range Aviation", or PAK DA for short, will rise closer to the 2020 year and, contrary to rumors, will not have hypersonic speed.

However, its capabilities will be wider than the current strategic bombers Tu-95 and Tu-160, said the commander.

"The foreproject of this aircraft is protected, work is underway, the plane will absorb all the best that is and will be accumulated during its creation. It will be subsonic, will fully perform all the tasks that Tu-95 and Tu-160 solve, hypersonic its weapons. The plane will be cheaper. But its capabilities will be expanded due to improved weapon characteristics. Long-range aircraft will work up to 2030, but with 2020 we have to start getting the new aircraft and putting it into series. "

In addition, the restoration and modernization of the once abandoned long-range aviation airfields in the Arctic, will continue, said Viktor Bondarev. Now there is an intensive reconstruction of airfields and their infrastructure, which includes not only official and technical building, but also the construction of new housing for military personnel.

Also, the commander-in-chief commented to Golos Rossii about the transfer of a number of aircraft repair plants from the subordination of the Ministry of Defense to the KLA and the Russian Helicopters holding company. According to Bondarev, such a scheme will significantly simplify and speed up the process of repairing equipment.

“The whole thing went very slowly. The only reason is that we sent the planes to the aircraft repair plant, the plant took these planes, bought spare parts from the UAC, Russian Helicopters and everyone who provided cooperation on aircraft repair. This is a long process, and I think that when we give all this, everything will be much faster, cheaper. As the commander in chief, I won’t be interested in where to get this or that spare part. After-sales service completely takes over the UAC, and my task is to receive a timely report that that this or that spare part is out of order. And task - as soon as possible to replace it. "

New equipment is received by flight schools. In particular, the Borisoglebsky Aviation Training Center received more than thirty new Yak-130 combat training aircraft, which received the most positive feedback from combat pilots. In the Air Force, this car has already been nicknamed the “flying desk” for high “pedagogical” qualities and the ability to forgive a cadet for errors in the air, Victor Bondarev said:

“Until the cadet performs the sequence of all the actions prescribed by the flight manual, the car will not allow him to do the following. She tells him what to do. The plane is very easy to fly in the air, it forgives many mistakes. it was very difficult to get the aircraft out of the corkscrew. zopasny flight. "

To the journalists' question about the possibility of creating a new aerobatic team on these machines, the commander-in-chief replied that there are more aerobatic teams in the Air Force than in Russia anywhere in the world, but given the high flight characteristics of this aircraft, this possibility is quite real.

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  1. AVV
    AVV 3 September 2013 15: 07 New
    0
    Our planes are the best! But we need to get even better !!!
    1. experienced
      experienced 3 September 2013 22: 00 New
      +2
      The situation in the Air Force that Viktor Bondarev spoke about during the final press conference can be described in one word - update

      I would like to believe hi
      AVV from me "-" (Well, whoever conducts the experiment understands wink )
      The commander-in-chief commented to the Voice of Russia on the situation with the transfer of a number of aircraft repair plants from the subordination of the Defense Ministry to the UAC

      Monopoly and suction to the budget (or suction or su ...) IMHO hi
      "Until the student completes the sequence of all actions, which is prescribed by the flight manual, the machine will not allow him to the next actions. It tells him what to do. In the air, the plane is very easy to fly, it forgives many mistakes.

      I am not a specialist, but this will not create euphoria, and then when the pilot sits down at the helm of the combat, will such "forgiveness" not let him down?
      1. aviator65
        aviator65 3 September 2013 23: 55 New
        +2
        Rather, it will allow developing an automatism of actions. Until now, this problem has been solved by instructor matugs. laughing
    2. bomg.77
      bomg.77 3 September 2013 22: 15 New
      +3
      As news published in 21.56 can comment on 15. 07?
      Quote: AVV
      Our planes are the best! But we need to get even better !!!
      1. experienced
        experienced 3 September 2013 22: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: bomg.77
        As news published in 21.56 can comment on 15. 07?

        Someone either puts an experiment or uses his official position ... wink
        I put "-", it is interesting to get under the sequestration (50% of the rating)? wassat
        I would have reconciled if there were comments, not slogans hi
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 3 September 2013 22: 29 New
          +3
          experimenters "-" and wish to play fair! We scold here and try to fight corruption and nepotism, but here is a hotbed laughing
          1. experienced
            experienced 3 September 2013 22: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: bomg.77
            experimenters "-" and wish to play fair! We scold here and try to fight corruption and nepotism, but here is a hotbed

            Bugaga, I think the dude will "ogreb" due to his cunning laughing
            1. bomg.77
              bomg.77 3 September 2013 22: 43 New
              +1
              Quote: seasoned
              Bugaga, I think the dude will "ogreb" due to his cunning
              Sometimes it helps. lol hi
    3. VAF
      VAF 3 September 2013 22: 44 New
      +6
      Quote: AVV
      Our planes are the best!


      Who would argue? Only now the "best" they were supplied for the "hillock", but here ... while these best ... "the cat cried."

      Basically, these are .... crying Well, in the sense of such avionics negative
      1. experienced
        experienced 3 September 2013 22: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: vaf
        Who would argue? Only now the "best" they were supplied for the "hillock", but here ... while these best ... "the cat cried."

        Serge, do not get fooled by .... winked Look at all the news and articles posted after 14.00 and you will see that there is some kind of "shnyaga" with this AVV wassat This is either the Admin is kidding or someone from the AyTishnikov decided to grab "karma" ... wassat
  2. Marconi41
    Marconi41 3 September 2013 15: 35 New
    +5
    Well then, let's see how the T-50 will behave in the troops in the form of an already integral system. What he can, what not, what weapons he will possess, how it will be used. And by the way, what will it be called. (Su - ..?) All this is terribly interesting.
    1. aviator65
      aviator65 4 September 2013 15: 43 New
      0
      The T-50 is still a chicken in the nest. It is not enough to rivet a glider, stick engines into it, and not those for which it was designed, but those that are most suitable at the moment and lift it into the air. I do not know what the pace of design is now, but the development of the systems of a new machine usually takes years. What about the introduction of new technologies in production? And what about cooperation with subcontractors, of which there are hundreds? After all, the task is to serial production of a fundamentally new aircraft. And the system itself still needs to be created, including the training of flight and technical personnel. And is it really possible to do all this in two or three years, as they say? Well, 4 cars were released for testing, so what? Yes, this is a task for a pilot plant. We still have to work and work with them. Bring to mind, so to speak, and stuff it slowly with the projected filling. So, how he will behave in the troops as an integral system, we will see, alas, not soon.
  3. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 3 September 2013 22: 53 New
    +4
    As usual, in this wonderful barrel of honey, you can not do without a fly in the ointment. What about the MIG-35, with an unexpected refusal to build them and replace them with non-exhausted Algeria MIG-29SMT in the amount of 2 times less cars, but at the price of MIG-35? And this is clearly not all tar ... angry
    1. VAF
      VAF 3 September 2013 23: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: Peaceful military
      What about the MIG-35


      As such, the Mig-35th is not there, and it never was. There was a Mig-29M / M2, which was supposed to be exported with the name Mig-35.
      Then, in the process of new developments, a new motor appeared. A new wing, a little more composites, a new locator and decided to create a really new, real Mig-35, but ...... request
      Therefore, even before MAKS, it was decided to release the MiG-29M2 under the "name" MiG-35S and modify the AFAR Beetle, but .... request
      So today Korotkov informed that the Mig-35 will be the new name Mig-29M2 recourse
      Well, about the "former" Algerian SMT-nis ..... let them be, because the "fittings" are riveted, what is gathering dust ... so there will be SMT-shki, even if fresher and that..that!
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 3 September 2013 23: 36 New
        +3
        Sergei!
        All that you said so ... BUT! Not so major. This tar is in this honey and you do not turn this tar into honey. smile
        hi
        1. experienced
          experienced 3 September 2013 23: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: Peaceful military
          All that you said so ... BUT! Not so major. This tar is in this honey and you do not turn this tar into honey.

          Andrey, with all due respect hi Sergei (VAF) has never been seen organizing the process of "driving the tar into honey" ... wink
          He cuts the truth and many people do not like it, but he does not smooth out the corners and due to this, many here stand against the throat. He was already "exposed" as a mattress and a spy here ... But specials, which are few and you can't hide it soldier
          1. Peaceful military
            Peaceful military 3 September 2013 23: 52 New
            +3
            Well, respected Sergey, but answering me, Sergey let such an oil go that I almost frowned laughing
            And you Alex, my respect.soldier
            1. experienced
              experienced 3 September 2013 23: 56 New
              +2
              Quote: Peaceful military
              Respect to Sergey, but in reply to me, Sergey made such an oil that I almost frowned

              You flatter him wassat Here many of his "oil" for diarrhea breaks through wassat
              Quote: Peaceful military
              And you Alex, my respect.

              Mutually drinks
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 4 September 2013 00: 16 New
                +1
                .........................................
              2. VAF
                VAF 4 September 2013 00: 21 New
                +2
                Quote: seasoned
                Here many of his "oil" for diarrhea breaks through


                Lyosha, you might think that I don’t want SUCH who is in FAS, but for us, for some reason, there are SUCH 9 ones in ANFAS everywhere, though ... let them be the same ... drinks
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 4 September 2013 00: 24 New
                  +3
                  From an aerodynamic point of view, the shape is streamlined laughing
                2. experienced
                  experienced 4 September 2013 00: 24 New
                  +1
                  Quote: vaf
                  you would think that I don’t want the SUCH one that is in the FAS, but for some reason, here we have SUCH 9 ones in ANFAS more and more everywhere), although ... let it be the same ...

                  Earrings, no offense drinks , but I was really "killed" when you were caught in "honey flow" wassat In my opinion this is the first time in this forum laughing , usually you were a "pessimist", an American-minded, all our heart and soul, and here is such a passage, I fell into the astral lol
                  1. VAF
                    VAF 4 September 2013 00: 30 New
                    +2
                    Quote: seasoned
                    there is such a passage, I fell into the astral plane


                    Everything happens ... in this life and I sometimes oh ... request from myself, and of course the Avenger laughing (Tersky must be affixed good )]
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                    1. experienced
                      experienced 4 September 2013 00: 36 New
                      +1
                      Quote: vaf
                      Yeah ... you will be ... a pessimist. Sometimes you go to the aviation topic, and there ....... "solid ice", I will not list. I'm already tired of these "names", but with what aplomb and ambition ... and the eyes are so ... kind, kind

                      You are just old and not in trend, but they have tested all flight simulators and know better than you how and what to do and what is "cooler" and what "sucks". wassat
                      And Wikipedia again says one thing, and you are different, but she can’t lie laughing
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                      2. experienced
                        experienced 4 September 2013 00: 47 New
                        +1
                        Quote: vaf
                        Well, yes, yes, yes, against the keys and Wiki ... fuck

                        Avenzhik is now enlightening people in the shooting theme and in Landsknechts laughing I'm there a little repeat Damn, a freak is okay to minus without risk, you have to "dance with a tambourine" wassat
          2. Alex 241
            Alex 241 3 September 2013 23: 57 New
            +3
            Andrey is just the rhetoric of a professional, and you don't have to take everything personally. laughing I received from Sergey, but everything went to the benefit. soldier
            1. Peaceful military
              Peaceful military 4 September 2013 00: 09 New
              +3
              OK! And to you, Alexander, my respect. smile soldier
            2. VAF
              VAF 4 September 2013 00: 25 New
              +3
              Quote: Alex 241
              was getting,


              You speak out, Sanya, to yourself, oh you speak to yourself ... you haven’t made any "flights" and "plops" yet and you stand in the ranks ... as it should drinks
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 4 September 2013 00: 27 New
                +3
                Commander, remember a year ago, corrections during bombing ....... laughing drinks
                1. VAF
                  VAF 4 September 2013 00: 50 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  bombing corrections ..


                  Ahhh, well, this is ... not fatal, although you yourself know. something, but this science can not be forgotten ... "nizya", "she, after all .. the foolish cast iron, after separation .... not controllable" wassat

                  All men .. all good night. it was an extreme circle and ... to the stall! drinks
      2. VAF
        VAF 4 September 2013 00: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: Peaceful military
        BUT! Not so major. This tar is in this honey and you do not turn this tar into honey.


        Andrey, welcome! Well, probably, I was just tired for today, so I buried my thoughts like that, although one of yours (can you? drinks ) the phrase "get the Algerians in" and my photo, and so everything should be clear wassat
        So I don't even smell like "honey" ...
        Well, m you understand, I can’t talk a lot in the open .... otherwise it will be one tar!
        And so, at least something from the Israelis and from the UPG got .. so it’s quite, quite, it’s better anyway. than Domnensky or Millerovsky wink
        1. Peaceful military
          Peaceful military 4 September 2013 00: 53 New
          +1
          Salute Seryozha! Everything is OK, I don’t understand something. smile
          But in fact, you yourself understand what kind of power is a shame ...
          soldier
    2. Lone gunman
      Lone gunman 4 September 2013 00: 30 New
      +1
      so here are our future SMTs, but is it possible to upgrade to M2 or the airframe design is not much different? what do I see in the photo are just blanks ?! MiG as a whole went ...
    3. aviator65
      aviator65 4 September 2013 12: 42 New
      +1
      Judging by the photo, a neutron bomb was dropped on the plant. Is there someone alive? Yes, they riveted the fittings and ... apparently, they abandoned them. I once visited the "Banner of Labor" (plant number 30 in Moscow), so such a picture even on weekends and holidays was not observed. Everything buzzed and worked. And here it’s quiet and whim. That's how we rearm, however!
  • voliador
    voliador 3 September 2013 22: 56 New
    -2
    "The new bomber, being developed under the Advanced Long Range Aviation Complex, or PAK DA for short, will take to the skies closer to 2020 and, contrary to rumors, will not have hypersonic speed."
    Supersound is also needed so that in the event of an impact on an airfield, get away from it to the maximum distance in the minimum time.
    1. aviator65
      aviator65 4 September 2013 11: 39 New
      +1
      And then where to sit down?
  • smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 3 September 2013 23: 09 New
    +3
    This year there will be 14 Su-34, 12 Su-30SM, 12 Su-35S, 4 MiG-29K, 18 Yak-130. Total 60 pcs. Plus the upgrade of the Mig-31BM, Su-25SM. This is by no means small, given that long ago our aircraft industry assembled an order of magnitude simpler cars, what is the Su-27 compared to the Su-35? what is the Su-24, in comparison with the Su-34 or MiG-29K and MiG-29 - this is heaven and earth ...
    The situation is similar for helicopters, Mi-8 and Mi-24 / 24P versus modern and sophisticated Mi-28N, Ka-52, Mi-35M, Mi-8AMTS, the pace is comparable, and the complexity of the equipment is simply epic. This year 12 Su- 30SM will go to Domna, and 12 Su-35S to Dzemgi.
    http://ria.ru/vl/20130817/956944703.html

    Different plants need to live. And so if you try on in comparison with the late Soviet realities ..
    Su-35S - "transitional" fighter of the Air Force, to replace the old Su-27
    Su-30SM - conditionally "fighter-bomber", niche MiG-27 and Su-17 of the 80s. Although the MiG-29SMT was planned for such a niche, and, perhaps, they will supplement the MiG-35
    Su-34 - front-line bomber, replacement of the Su-24 and, in part, the Tu-22M3. Plus another Su-34, IMHO, de facto our "electronic warfare aircraft" and "SEAD fighter". In what the Su-35 and Su-30 are not competitors to him.
    PAK FA- after 2020 will replace those su-27s (late release) that did not replace the su-35s
    PAK DA- will replace the Tu-95th
    PAK SHA - replacement of the Su-25
    Mig-29e go without replacement, either LFI or Su-30 / 35S will play their role.
    Yours! hi
    1. VAF
      VAF 3 September 2013 23: 34 New
      +4
      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
      This year will be


      Yes, that will be good good , but why are you re-fastening the Yak-3 again (this post is already the 130rd time), in the amount of 18 pieces? request
      Or are they the same ... are you going to fight the "foe"?

      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
      Although the MiG-29SMT was planned for such a niche, and, perhaps, it will complement the MiG-35


      And write correctly here, only I’ll show you one photo, you look, understand, well, don’t understand, well ... and don’t have to .. continue fellow maybe this will help.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 3 September 2013 23: 40 New
        0
        Quote: vaf
        again "fasten" the Yak-130, in the amount of 18 pieces? Or are they the same ... are you going to fight the "foe"?


        And the Yak-130 can not be used locally, provided complete dominance in the air?
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 3 September 2013 23: 53 New
          +1
          You can, right in Syria, now the main bomber L-39 wink . Yak-130 will take at least twice as many bombs.

          However, you yourself understand that while we have Su-25, no one will send Yaki into battle.
      2. queen
        queen 3 September 2013 23: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: vaf
        you’ll understand, well, don’t understand, well ..

        I welcome Sergey ... something he was hung with bombs alone ((((it’s not created for this purpose ((((
    2. VAF
      VAF 3 September 2013 23: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
      PAK FA- after 2020 will replace those su-27s (late release) that did not replace the su-35s
      PAK DA- will replace the Tu-95th
      PAK SHA - replacement of the Su-25


      But this is definitely from the series - "and ... apple trees will bloom on Mars" wassat

      Now, if corrected for the 2050th, then probably only the names of the PAK, presumably already will be different. soldier
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 3 September 2013 23: 46 New
        +2
        It remains to clone the PAL-promising aviation pilots, and you can go to Washington as a "black woodpecker"
    3. aviator65
      aviator65 4 September 2013 11: 26 New
      0
      "... well, what is the Su-27 in comparison with the Su-35? What is the Su-24, in comparison with the Su-34 or MiG-29K and MiG-29 - this is heaven and earth .."
      At one time, the MiG-25 was a completely new, unparalleled, breakthrough machine. Well, what is it in comparison with the MiG-21, MiG-23, Su-15? Also heaven and earth. And for industry as well. However, its production went in hundreds of pieces. In total, about 1100 units were produced, although by definition it could not be a mass machine. And what is the Su-35 really compared to the Su-27? Yes, just a modification of the latter, albeit significantly improved. As for the Su-24, it is technologically much more complicated than the Su-34, one wing of which is variable sweep is worth it. And what was his pace of production?
      It was rightly noted here: “a long time ago our aviation industry assembled much simpler machines,” but it was necessary to clarify that until recently it did not assemble anything at all. And not because the new samples are much more complicated than the previous ones, but for completely different reasons. What the hell are "comparable rates" when the products are squeezed out by the piece!
      "Total 60 pieces" - are we Colombia or Peru?
  • falcon
    falcon 3 September 2013 23: 20 New
    +4
    Of course, the Commander-in-Chief said what he had to say. But I would like to hear a conversation about problems
    of which there are many in aviation. The feeling is that every MAX causes an attack of euphoria, and the prose of life
    far from ideal. No matter how much you repeat the word "honey", your mouth will not become sweeter. It is not clear if there is
    does the Air Force have feedback with the KLA?
  • aviator65
    aviator65 4 September 2013 02: 49 New
    +7
    Maybe I don’t understand something, but I don’t remember in any way that in Soviet times someone would have told the general public that we were in development and that would be put into service in the next 5-10-15 years. There was no hype. Just look, and at the next parade on Red Square, new tanks are coming, in some report from "I Serve the Soviet Union" new interceptors in all their glory (MiG-25, for example) or a photo in "Krasnaya Zvezda" for '88 with new fighters from the N-regiment of the GSVG (as it turned out, the MiG-29) and so on. And they represented in this way, even without disclosing the name, by no means prototypes and not even pre-production ones, but equipment that already supplied to the troops, and not a piece and not dozens, but hundreds. It was clear to everyone that new equipment was really entering the army, that work was really going on. What now? After the calm of the first half of the 90s (the defense industry is in a coma), how it broke: a bunch of experimental, promising samples - one better than the other - everywhere: at exhibitions, on TV, and in the press, and serious guys with big stars talk about them dignity and perspective. And all this is about to be adopted. At the same time, the samples themselves are improved and modernized from year to year, while remaining non-serial. And our combatant soldiers look at all these "miracles", lick their lips and ... continue to fly, ride and swim on what was produced for the most part in the last century. Glory to our designers for providing the resource. Long-suffering MiG-29M / MiG-29SMT / MiG-35! Maybe someone does not know, but this "edition 9-15" and its derivatives - developed and tested back in the late 80s - early 90s, and still will not reach the series! And those that got there? MiG-29K (ed. 9-31) - thanks to India! Su-30, Su-35, Mi-28, Ka-52 - judging by the published procurement plans, a pair or three squadrons of each type for all our Air Force for the near future. The Su-34 should seem to replace the Su-24, and even the Tu-22M, and something else, but how much has it actually been put into service since it was put into service and how much is it planned? Something is not particularly rosy while everything looks.
    I, in fact, what all this is for. Maybe you should still do without loud statements about the rearmament of our army and about the development of new types of military equipment. I am not in any way for the abolition of publicity, but, as they say, there should be boundaries within reason. The fact that we have finally set up production is good! That they began to slowly rearm - great! But numbers and dates! Of course, we are now far from the Soviet pace, well, maybe we shouldn't raise the excitement, but calmly and purposefully work without further ado and demonstrate a ready-made, completed result? Anyone who is in the subject and so receives all the information first-hand, and for the layman who is not competent in such matters, at best it is of little interest, and at worst it is an extra reason to cheer. For me, it would be more pleasant to see an ordinary reportage from some aviation combat unit on TV once, where a line of several dozen Su-34 or Su-35 was shown in the frame. And no numbers are needed when something will happen. Marketing, of course, is a good thing, but it seems that our defense industry is working exclusively for the sake of the prosperity of ROSOBORONEXPORT. By the way, despite all the secrecy and secrecy, the USSR firmly held its position in the arms market, while arming itself first of all.
    Sorry for the confusion, but it’s painful.
    1. Oskar
      Oskar 4 September 2013 03: 40 New
      +3
      I agree. The feeling is that they hypnotize themselves and us. But why hide now? All new items over the hill are faster than in the native Air Force.
  • Koronik
    Koronik 4 September 2013 05: 24 New
    0
    These words, yes GOD in the ears.