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Geopolitical Mosaic: John Kerry shook the "test tube", and the hackers found out who conducted the chemical attack near Damascus

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Fresh Arab news. - How Russia will help Syria. - Under the leadership of Hagel and Dempsey. - Cannibals are waiting. - About the American ships. - Unspecific Obama. - I want, and prickly. - Does Ban Ki-moon pull time? - chemical attack in Syria held the Pentagon? - John Kerry has a test tube. - Obama is trapped. - How the US improves credibility in the Middle East. - Eastern subtleties: measures without a mandate. - The whole world is against the military intervention of the West in Syria. - Germany to Syria will not go. - Hollande can give the order. - The terrorist attack on the Suez Canal did not take place. - Mursi will appear before the criminal court. - Spanish detochkin. - Belgium: ceiling installed for top managers of state-owned enterprises. - Greece: the judge sent a bomb. - The most important thing is European integration. - DPRK: expansion of the missile range. “Doses of Fukushima.” - Forty-nine billion. - Hello, Seoul! - Iron without technology. - Jiang Zemin arrested. - NSA against Aeroflot. - About American criminals. - “Microsoft” and “Google” decided to sue their native government. - Bush Sr. buried Mandela.


Geopolitical Mosaic: John Kerry shook the "test tube", and the hackers found out who conducted the chemical attack near Damascus


Fresh Arab news. Comrade Doreyd Mohamad translated the note from the Arab media into Italian, then enthusiasts translated the text into English, and now we translate it into Russian. English material dated 31 August.

As transmits liveleak.com with links to Arabic speaking channels southlebanon.org и nrttv.comThe F-22 Raptor crashed in the north of Jordan. The source of this information is the Post newspaper, published in the US state of Oklahoma. The unnamed informers report that Raptor was probably shot down by Syrian missiles (near the Syrian border). Military expert John Blue Reed told the newspaper that the downed F-22 confirms: Syria has updated C-300 defense systems or even C-400 defense systems.

The American expert also said that relations between the United States and Russia would become even more tense if it was confirmed that Moscow had delivered C-400 to Damascus.

In addition, according to the Los Angeles Times, the Syrian defense forces shot down four Tomahawk missiles. Some unnamed sources from Washington indicate that they were shot down with the help of the Pantsir batteries. The Tomahawks themselves were allegedly launched to “test” the Syrian defense system.

The same Washington sources confirmed to the newspaper that the failures with the rockets and the aircraft are the main reasons for the fact that the United States has not yet launched the attack of the SAR.

What Russia will help Syria. Russian naval group fleet near the coast of Syria monitors airspace, writes Politikus.ru.

The Russian military can transmit the received information to the Syrian air defense calculations. This will ensure the timely response of the Syrian defense to any attempts at military aggression by the United States and its allies.

US military experts believe that Russian ships will put a cross on NATO air strikes.

Under the leadership of Hagel and Dempsey. Washington has set targets for a strike in Syria, as well as the forces and means that will be involved. The military command is awaiting Barack Obama’s order. About this, as he writes "Russian newspaper"reports the Associated Press.

It is planned to strike at the military and political headquarters of Assad, the Ministry of Defense, the General Staff, the positions of the Republican Guard defending Damascus, the head office of the Ba'ath Party.

The operation will be led by Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United States, General Martin Dempsey. The direct executors of the action will probably be Army General Lloyd Austin and Commander-in-Chief of the US naval forces in Europe, Admiral Bruce Clingan.

The course of the military operation is planned to be coordinated with the allies, primarily with France.

Cannibals are waiting. The armed opposition planned to launch an attack on Damascus immediately after the United States conducted a strike on Syria. This is reported by the Arab media, reports ITAR-TASS.

The Al-Manar website writes: "The Syrian opposition and its military leaders intend to launch a powerful offensive against Damascus immediately after the US conducts an air strike, the goal of the offensive is to establish control over Damascus and overthrow President Bashar al-Assad."

The militants of the opposition, as the militants say, have accumulated a large number weapons and ammunition in Al-Kalmun (a suburb of Damascus) and in northern Syria.

About the American ships. The landing ship of the US Navy "San Antonio" arrived in the Mediterranean Sea. On board are Marines, reports "RT" with reference to ITAR-TASS. Also on the ship are based combat helicopters.

In the Persian Gulf zone are two US Navy aircraft carriers: "Harry Truman" and "Nimitz". In addition, the US Sixth Fleet issued an order to leave in the region the destroyer “Makhan”, which has been on duty. Now, in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea, six American warships equipped with cruise missiles are awaiting Obama's order.

The American aircraft carrier Nimitz and another airliner were ordered to move west to the Red Sea to support the US attack on Syria, reports today "RT".

“This is to strengthen the reserves in this place, in case you need the capabilities and presence of a group of aircraft carrier fighters,” the Western media quoted an anonymous source in the US government.

Channel "RT" also notes that the cost of oil will rise to 125 dollars per barrel, if the West strikes at ATS. In the case of a ground operation in Washington, the price per barrel may jump to 200 dollars.

Unspecific Obama. According to Petr Martynychev (RIA News"), US senators intend to make changes to the draft resolution proposed by the White House, authorizing military action against Syria. Democratic senator Patrick Leahy told reporters about this. “The document is planned to be finalized in the Senate,” the Politico newspaper quoted Lehi.

Many legislators believe that the White House’s proposal lacks specifics. The resolution should be spelled out more clearly to be adopted, the senator believes.

As the correspondent reminds. RIA "Novosti", Barack Obama on Saturday sent the legislators a request for approval of the military operation. According to the draft resolution, the task of the Pentagon will be to deprive the Syrian regime of the ability to use weapons of mass destruction. The need for a military strike is justified in the draft by the fact that the actions of the Syrian authorities violated international norms, in particular, the Chemical Weapons Convention and the UN Security Council Resolution 1540. At the same time, the document stresses that the settlement of the conflict in Syria can be ... only political.

And you want, and prickly. Due to budget cuts in the US, the Department of Defense was left without sufficient funds to carry out a new military campaign. According to the "Washington Free Beacon", the military department will have to get government approval, said "RT".

The cost of the planned attack on Syria using aircraft carriers has not yet been announced by Chuck Hagel. But, according to experts, the Pentagon does not have enough of its own money. Therefore, the Ministry of Defense decided to consult with the Congress.

In July, General Dempsey sent a letter to the Senate stating that the operation in Syria could cost the US too much. According to his calculations, the training and support of the Syrian opposition can cost around 500 million dollars per year, while hundreds of combat units will need to be deployed and a no-fly zone will be created, which will cost 500 million more. , the creation of buffer zones and the provision of control over chemical weapons. The total cost of the operation can reach 1 billion per month!

Does Ban Ki-moon pull time? At a meeting with permanent members of the Security Council, the UN Secretary General said that it would take up to two weeks for UN inspectors to make a conclusion about whether chemical weapons were used in Syria, reports "RT" with reference to ITAR-TASS.

At a meeting with the permanent members of the Security Council (Russia, UK, China, USA, France), Ban Ki-moon urged them to adhere to the UN Charter, planning actions regarding Syria. This was stated by the official representative of the Secretary General Martin Nesirki.

During the meeting, the UN Secretary General briefed Security Council members on the work of the inspection mission investigating the alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria. “The team completed the collection of samples and evidence related to the August 21 incident. They are going to return tomorrow to The Hague, where the headquarters of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons is located. At the same time, the samples collected by them will be sent for analysis to the laboratory, ”Nesirki said.

The inspectors intend to then return to Syria in order to continue the “investigative fact-finding measures regarding all credible allegations” about the use of chemical weapons. “Upon completion, the mission will provide a final report,” said Nesirki.

Chemical attack in Syria held the Pentagon? As Saeed al-Khalaki writes (hackersnewsbulletin.com; source of translation - "Translation"), reports from a hacked mailbox of a colonel of American intelligence show that the Pentagon probably participated in conducting a chemical attack in Syria.

Hacker published the correspondence of Colonel American Armed Forces Anthony J. Macdonald, Chief of General Staff of the Planning and Operations Department under the Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the US Armed Forces on Intelligence. In the hacked mail - some information about the chemical attack in Syria.

For example, in a letter dated 22 of August, Eugene Furst congratulates the colonel on the successful operation, citing an article in the Washington Post (about a chemical attack in Syria). It is interesting here the following: from the dialogue between his wife Anthony and her friend, it becomes clear that the video with the children who were allegedly killed in himatak around Damascus was staged by American intelligence.

On the screenshots of the correspondence received by the hacker, the following phrases are visible, among others:

“As you can see, I am far from this, but our guys have tried as it should. I like to catch up with you. I hope to see you soon".
“I still think about these Syrian kids. Thank God, they are alive. I hope they will be given some gift or some money for it. ”
“I saw it too and was very scared. But Tony calmed me down. He says they did not suffer, it was done for shooting on camera. So don't worry, darling. ”


Hacker says he has penetrated the mailboxes of many other Pentagon officers. While he did not have time to read the entire correspondence, but promises: "I will upload their correspondence later."

John Kerry has a test tube. The United States has obtained evidence of the use of sarin in the Damascus suburb of 21 August: as reported "Lenta.ru" With reference to France-Presse, Secretary of State John Kerry said in an interview with American television channels yesterday. According to him, the results of the analysis of hair and blood samples from the scene, which were at the disposal of the Americans, point to sarin.

New information, according to Kerry, confirms the need for an urgent military operation against the Syrian authorities. The question of this is now considering Congress. The head of the State Department called on lawmakers to sanction the use of force.

30 August, when Kerry did not yet have a "test tube", he made a statement on the situation in Syria. According to him that transmits newsru.co.ilPresident Obama decided to discuss the issue of a possible military operation with Congress and US citizens. For this reason, the authorities ordered to declassify almost all intelligence on Syria and put them in open access.

“You can make sure that our intelligence is confident: August 21 chemical weapons used the Bashar Assad regime,” said Kerry. He noted that government forces had failed to knock out opposition fighters from the suburbs of Damascus, and this was probably the reason for the use of poisonous gases. Kerry added that the United States knows exactly where and when chemical missiles were fired.

Still not to know, add on my own. The United States "knows for sure" because they themselves have dramatized everything. It would be nice to voice the name of the ogre, who gave Kerry "samples". But no, this information is not included in the "almost all intelligence" that the White House has declassified. “Almost everything” is not the same as “everything”.

As for Russia, comrade Putin believes that the Americans staged a provocation.

"In the conditions of the offensive of the Syrian army, to say that the Syrian government used chemical weapons is utter foolishness," Putin said in Vladivostok, "Voice of Russia".

Putin is confident that the Syrian government did not use chemical weapons. It was a provocation.

The Russian leader said: “With regard to this case, as is known, the Syrian government has previously appealed to the international community to inspect, as they believed, the use of chemical weapons to kill people by militants, but this, unfortunately, was not done.”

“Now government troops are attacking. Therefore, I am convinced that this is nothing more than a provocation of those who want to draw other countries into the Syrian conflict, and who want to get support from powerful participants in international activities, primarily the United States, ”the president concluded.

He further reminded Barack Obama that he was the Nobel Peace Prize laureate. “I would turn to Obama as the Nobel Peace Prize laureate: before using force in Syria, you need to think about future victims,” said Vladimir Putin.

The President of the Russian Federation believes that the G20 summit could become a “platform for discussing the problem of Syria”.

Comrade Maduro also demanded peace from Obama. As transmits correspondent RIA "News" Dmitry ZnamenskyThe Venezuelan president said that he sent a message to Barack Obama asking him not to allow military intervention in the situation in Syria.

“I just sent a letter of peace to President Obama on behalf of our homeland and independent representatives, in which I emphasize that we love humanity. Peace, Peace! ”Maduro wrote in a Twitter microblog.

Comrade Maduro considers a possible US operation in Syria unnecessary, unfair and criminal.

Obama is trapped. The American president said he would not give the order to start a military operation against Syria, until the appropriate decision is not taken by Congress.

Political analyst Dmitry Babich, whose words are quoted "RT", believes that Obama is afraid of responsibility: “He is afraid of 100% to take responsibility for the consequences of the war in Syria. Obama thinks so - it seems to be a decision to be made, but let it be that if someone else is responsible, not me. ”

The US Congress, Babich believes, will also try to shift the responsibility onto someone, for example, the Security Council. For example, one can expect a statement from him: “We will vote only after a certain number of members of the UN Security Council speak out for this decision”.

A political analyst also said: “Now we can say that the Obama administration has not calculated, first, by underestimating the potential of Bashar al-Assad, who has been in power for two years, contrary to forecasts. Therefore, it was decided to "correct" what was said by analysts using missiles and bombs. But the opinion about the full support of the Syrian operation, primarily from the UK, turned out to be erroneous. And against the background of these analysts' mistakes, Obama is trying to enlist the support of the US Congress. Immediately Obama makes another mistake - image. He said that the United States does not need the approval of the UN Security Council to attack Syria. What is this country that does not consider the opinion of the UN? "

Sergei Markov, director of the Institute for Political Studies, believes that the US president was trapped by American generals and intelligence agencies: “For sure, opposition fighters used poisonous substances, because it makes sense for Bashar Asad to use such weapons when he defeats militants and when experts are in the country UN, there is no.

According to the analyst, the decision of the United States to start a war will be “insane”: after all, both NATO members, the British parliament, and Russia and China opposed the use of force.

Konstantin Sokolov, Vice-President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, also commented on Obama’s statement on Syria: “This is a political hysteria, because the president is forced to justify the attack on Syria by saying that the opposition, on which the US relied, loses to the army of Bashar Al-Assad. Indeed, recently a crushing blow was struck on mercenaries fighting on the side of the Syrian opposition. ”

In an interview with RT, Comrade Sokolov also said that “the game around Syria is primarily an informational and psychological operation aimed at ensuring that the Syrian allies refuse to cooperate with Damascus in the conditions of the alleged defeat of Bashar al-Assad”.

How does the US improve authority in the Middle East. A US strike on Syria will restore American containment policy in the region. This was stated by the former head of the Israeli military intelligence (AMAN) and the director of the Institute of National Studies, Amos Yadlin, reports MIGnews.com.

Yadlin and institute researcher Avner Golov outlined Israel’s short-term and long-term interests in the context of a possible US strike on Syria.

The main Israeli interest from the attack on the Assad regime: “He would definitely explain: the price of using weapons of mass destruction is extremely high. This interest is essential to deter all Middle Eastern leaders who have considered using these weapons against Israel. ”

In addition, it is important for Israel that the US re-position itself as a state with strategic influence in the Middle East. Asadu’s tough response will improve US regional authority and containment policies in the region compared with the traditional and non-traditional behavior of competitors.

Restoring American politics in the Middle East will strengthen the status of Washington and the status of its allies, including Israel, in the context of the regional struggle between moderate and radical camps.

“It’s very important for Israel that Iran see the special determination of Washington to adhere to the statements and promises made by President Obama regarding the so-called“ red line ”. Tehran, for its part, is weighing the policy of the American "red line" against him. The consistency of the US administration in this matter will not allow Iran to promote its military nuclear program. President Obama’s actions and the support he receives from his Western and regional allies will have implications for the Iranian nuclear issue, ”Yadlin and Golov write.

In the long term, “it’s vital for Israel that the fighting in Syria does not end with the victory of the Tehran-Damascus-Hezbollah axis,” the experts add.

Eastern subtleties: measures without a mandate. The foreign ministers of the Arab League countries, who met at a meeting in Cairo, called on the UN and the world community to take action against the Syrian government, which, according to the foreign ministers of the Arab League countries, used chemical weapons against civilians, reports RIA News" with reference to Reuters.

The resolution adopted at the end of the meeting spelled out a call to take all necessary measures against "the criminals who committed this crime and the Syrian regime, which is responsible for it."

As noted by Korrespondent.net With reference to RIA Novosti, the ministers of foreign affairs of the Arab League countries gathered for a meeting in Cairo did not develop legal documents giving grounds for an attack on Syria. This is reported by the Turkish agency «Anadolu».

"The meeting is not working on a resolution that would give the United States a mandate to attack Syria, but the ministers intend to urge the UN Security Council to take tough measures against crimes committed by the Syrian regime," the agency source said.

According to him, the member countries of the organization have not developed a compromise solution for action against Damascus.

The whole world is against Western military intervention in Syria. As Anastasia Popova tells ("Vesti"), in several countries, rallies against the invasion of Syria.

Demonstrations took place, for example, at the French Embassy in Brussels. Protesters at the walls chanted: "Only God, Syria and Bashar." Francois Hollande at the rally was accused of assisting terrorists, and the United States branded for gathering to oppose the legitimate authorities on the same side as Al-Qaida. The diplomats, standing behind the double fence, looked at what was happening with apprehension.

And this is what Leven Jean Bricmont, professor of physics at the Catholic University, says:

“For many years we have been told that it is our duty to get involved in the affairs of other states and to spend unthinkable money and human resources in order to start wars there that supposedly should bring peace and democracy there. But time after time it results in chaos and devastation, which are beneficial only to Israel. ”


The rally was also attended, of course, by a well-known member of the Belgian parliament, Laurent Louis, who had repeatedly opposed NATO’s participation in the war against Libya, Mali and Syria. The politician accuses the USA, France and Great Britain of colonial ambitions of being ready to destroy a sovereign country in the name of its geopolitical and economic interests.

Germany to Syria will not go. Germany will not participate in a military operation that the US can launch in connection with the possible use of chemical weapons in Syria, Angela Merkel said yesterday. This tells correspondent RIA "News" Semyon Nekhoroshkin.

“No, Germany will not participate. Germany can participate only if there is a NATO mandate, a UN or a European mandate, ”said Merkel during a debate with Peer Steinbruck, her rival in the fight for the post of head of government.

Another thing - Hollande. The French president is really eager to fight.

Hollande can give the order. As the correspondent ITAR-TASS Sergey ShcherbakovThe French president confirmed his determination regarding Syria in a telephone conversation with Barack Obama.

"During the conversation, Barack Obama informed President Francois Hollande of his intention to convene a Congress, and also assured him of readiness for action," the Elysée Palace reported.

The head of the French state convened for consultation ministers in the Defense Council.

In Paris, September 4 held an extraordinary session of the French Parliament. The main issue on the agenda will be the situation in Syria. As noted in the entourage of the French president, according to the constitution, the order to launch a military operation by Hollande can be given without the approval of the National Assembly and the Senate.

The attack on the Suez Canal did not take place. The Egyptian army foiled an attempt to carry out a terrorist act on the Suez Canal. He writes about it "Russian newspaper" with reference to ITAR-TASS.

As the head of administration of the Mokhamb Memish said, the attackers were going to attack a container ship.

“The attempt failed completely,” Memish said. “Neither the vessel nor the containers suffered any damage. The servicemen acted decisively. "

The details of the incident are not given.

Mursi will appear before the criminal court. Detached from power Mohammed Mursi will be tried for "appeals for the murder" of opposition demonstrators, reports RIA News" with reference to Reuters.

Prosecutor Hesham Barakat referred the Mursi case and fourteen members of the Muslim Brotherhood to the criminal court in Cairo. They are all accused of "committing acts of violence and calling for murder."

Spanish detochkin. As Alexander Samozhnev writes ("Russian newspaper"), on the eve of the new school year in Andalusia, radical members of the Spanish trade unions robbed a supermarket. The good goal is to provide the needy population with school supplies. This was reported by the British newspaper «Independent».

“Detochkin” seized in the store ten boxes with textbooks, pencils, paints and other things for first-graders, loaded the goods into a car and drove away.

This is not just a robbery. This is an action designed to draw the attention of regional and central authorities to the difficulties of the two million poor in Andalusia. This is stated in the statement of the Union of Andalusian workers.

MIA investigates the fact of robbery. Arrested five trade union activists.

Belgium: ceiling installed for top managers of state-owned enterprises. How to transmit ITAR-TASS correspondents Denis Dubrovin and Victoria DubrovinThe government of Belgium set a new salary ceiling for top managers of state-owned enterprises as a new measure to reduce government spending. From now on, the "ceiling" will be 24 thousand euros per month excluding taxes. The salaries of the managers of SNCB, a railway transport company, and Infrabel (the railway infrastructure operator) will be almost halved: from 531 and 494, thousand euros per year, respectively.

However, the salary cap of top managers still exceeds the salary of the Prime Minister of the Kingdom (18,3 thousand euros per month).

The national debt of the kingdom today is 99,6% of the country's GDP, or 375,4 billion euros.

Greece: the judge sent a bomb. Judge D. Moccasu, who conducted terrorism cases, was mailed a bomb, reports RIA News" with reference to the Athens News Agency.

The judge, who returned from vacation, received mail in a few days, including a voluminous folder with the address of the Doctors Without Borders organization.

The letter seemed suspicious to the judge. He went to the balcony and threw the folder into the yard. There it exploded without causing harm to anyone.

According to law enforcement agencies, the letter of bomb is similar to those sent by the terrorist organization "Fire Cell Conspiracy". In particular, in the summer of bomb letters were sent to the former head of the anti-terrorist unit of the Greek police and the Association of criminal judges of Greece. The first letter caught fire at the post, the second police destroyed on the spot.

Just in July Judge Moccas authorized the arrest of two suspects in sending a bomb letter to the ex-head of the anti-terrorist unit.

The most important thing is European integration. As transmits segodnya.ua, The Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada is planning to review 7 euro-integration bills at plenary sessions of September 3-6, as reported on the website of the Party of Regions.

Speaking to journalists in Makeyevka, Donetsk region on Sunday, the Chairman of the Council, Mr. Rybak, said: “I put seven laws on European integration for the first (plenary) week”.

North Korea: the expansion of the missile range. North Korea is working to expand the Sohe space missile test site located on the west coast, writes Oleg Kiryanov ("Russian newspaper").

After analyzing satellite images, experts at the Korean-American Institute of the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University stated that, most likely, a platform was being built there for launching mobile rocket complexes.

Sohe is also building a new radar, parking and warehouses for storing vehicles and equipment, military barracks and roads.

Joel Witt, editor of the 38 North website, said: “It’s absolutely certain that the DPRK has plans to further develop and improve long-range missiles. If it is a new launch pad that is really being built at the test site, this means that the North intends to actively test and deploy mobile missile systems on combat duty ”.

Doses of Fukushima. A very high level of radiation was recorded at least at four sites of an emergency NPP in Japan. Experts warn that such a dose can kill a person in 4 hours, the channel said "RT" with reference to ITAR-TASS.

The NPP staff noticed that water with high levels of radiation flows from the pipe used to connect the two tanks with coolant. Hole managed to plug. The measurement carried out on Saturday showed that the radiation in one of the water reservoirs is 1800 millisievert per hour. This means that a person near infected water would die within 4 hours.

Representatives of the "Tokyo Electric Power Co." stressed that high levels of radiation may be associated with new leaks of highly radioactive water from tanks. NPP employees are checking this version.

Forty nine billion. Almost 49 billion dollars intends to request for their needs in the next fiscal year, the Ministry of Defense of Japan. This will be a record increase in Japanese defense spending over the past 22, Oleg Kiryanov notes ("Russian newspaper").

Japan’s defense ministry intends to request 4 trillion 820 billion yen (about 48,97 billion US dollars) from the government for military needs for the next fiscal year, which begins in April 2014 g. This is 3% more than in the last fiscal year.

Neighboring countries noted with concern that this amount would be a record increase in the last 22 of the year, an increase in the military allocations of the Land of the Rising Sun.

And in the Japanese Defense Ministry, an increase in defense spending is explained by “reasons of an exclusively economic nature”: the yen began to decline against the dollar, which led to a rise in the cost of weapons that Tokyo buys from foreign allies, primarily from the United States. And still increased the cost of maintaining military personnel.

The Japanese Defense Ministry plans to purchase Global Hawk UAVs and Osprey converters. The Japanese military want to ensure the defense of the “remote islands”.

Also, the military plan to purchase an additional batch of Patriot interceptor PAC-3. They need them to repel the threat from North Korea.

Hello, Seoul! Does South Korea need a gas pipeline from Russia? This topic is devoted to the material of Oleg Kiryanov ("Russian newspaper").

“We would like to finally hear from our partners in Seoul whether they want to or not in reality, and not in words to implement the project to build a gas pipeline from Russia to South Korea through the DPRK. Hearing "no" for us is better than uncertainty, alternative markets already exist. We are aware of the controversial assessments present in the expert community and among the various political forces of South Korea regarding the prospects for the project. This is normal, but it is high time to say “we will” or “we will not”. We hope that the South Korean government will decide and give a clear answer, especially since in the coming months there will be two summits with the participation of the presidents of Russia and Korea. But in any case, we cannot wait forever, ”such an approach was voiced by a source in the government structures of the Russian Federation related to the gas pipeline project in an interview with the RG correspondent.

“The idea of ​​a gas pipeline was Korean. She was proposed by Korean President Lee Myung-bak, we supported her. But it seems that Seoul himself cannot understand whether he needs a gas pipeline or not, ”said the source.

Southerners consider the North Korean factor to be the main danger of the project. “Seoul constantly nods in the direction of the DPRK, they say, they will start to shut off the valve and blackmail us. But, first, this behavior will affect the interests of Russia, which Pyongyang cannot ignore. Secondly, from a technical point of view, everything can be done so that the northerners do not have any valves in their hands. And you can always remember about the nuclear program of the DPRK. There are problems, but they are solvable. Moreover, we received assurances from the top North Korean leadership about the desirability of the project and its readiness to support it, ”the RG source said.

Pyongyang can receive 100-150 million dollars a year for the transit of gas through its territory. This is a lot of money. For comparison: The Kaeson Technopark gives two to three times less profit.

But there is another factor - the notorious "shale".

The interlocutor of RG said: “As far as we know, the South Korean government recently approved a plan for gas consumption and purchases for the next fifteen years. According to him, gas consumption in Korea will even decrease, but at the same time an increase in the import of shale gas from the United States has been laid, but we’re not talking about ours somehow. ”

Iron without technology. China’s airborne electronic technology will not be delivered to Su-35 fighters, the reporter said ITAR-TASS Andrey Tyulin, Deputy General Director of the Radioelectronic Technologies Concern.

“If a contract with China for the sale of the Su-35 is concluded, the Chinese side will receive only iron.” “Mathematics” and control algorithms, that is, technologies, will not be provided for them, ”he said. “So do the Americans,” added the deputy director general.

For example, China will not be provided with the technology of inertial inertial navigation system.

Jiang Zemin arrested. In China, the fight against corruption is gaining momentum. Following Bo Xilay, one of the highest-ranking functionaries of the Middle Kingdom may turn up in the dock - Jiang Jiemin, head of the state assets control committee, reports "Vesti".

The official arrested in Beijing on the eve is accused of “serious misconduct.” This is the wording used in the PRC when it comes to corruption and abuse of power.

NSA against Aeroflot. The NSA of the USA hacked into the reservation system of the Russian airline Aeroflot, according to the website of the German magazine Spiegel. According to documents declassified by E. Snowden, notes "Lenta.ru", penetration into the carrier’s system was a “significant success” of the special services.

The NSA also gained access to the internal correspondence of employees of the Al-Jazeera TV channel. Hacking these communications has also been called a great success.

About American criminals. As the correspondent ITAR-TASS Vyacheslav Filippov, the scandal around electronic surveillance by the American and British intelligence agencies is not over. This opinion was expressed by the candidate for the post of Chancellor of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, Peer Steinbrück, during the election debates with Angela Merkel.

The Social Democrat noted that the extent of the damage inflicted on Germany by espionage from the United States and Great Britain is unknown. He also pointed out that for such actions in Germany "should be a criminal punishment."

Angela Merkel, for her part, assured: "There is no reason not to trust the Americans."

Microsoft and Google decided to sue their government. Corporations announced that they had filed a lawsuit that led to a sharpening of the legal struggle against the Foreign Intelligence Observation Act (FISA). This is stated in the material channel "RT"that cited the British newspaper The Guardian.

In the Microsoft blog, General Counsel Brad Smith complained about the fact that the government still forbids publishing information about NSA requests: "We believe that we have the right to share information with citizens."

The two companies filed lawsuits back in June, demanding that they be allowed to publish surveillance information, in accordance with the first amendment to the American Constitution.

“Over the past few weeks, we have agreed with the Department of Justice 6 once more to extend the period in which the government must respond to these lawsuits,” Brad Smith wrote. But the negotiations failed, so the companies decided to go to court.

Bush Senior buried Mandela. The office of former US President George W. Bush announced the death of former South African leader Nelson Mandela yesterday, reports RIA News" with reference to Politico.

George Bush Sr. and his wife expressed their condolences to the family of Mandela and the people of South Africa: "Barbara and I regret the departure of one of the greatest defenders of freedom." Bush stressed: "He was a courageous man who influenced the course stories In your country. Barbara and I express our condolences to the family of the highly respected President Mandela. ”

Curiously, Jim McGrath, the Bush spokesman who published this statement, later assessed the message as a mistake — not simple, but “stupid.” He wrote in the Twitter microblog that it was a “stupid mistake.” McGrath apologized and explained that he had misread the headline of the news in the Washington Post.

Meanwhile, N. Mandela was discharged from the hospital and returned to his home in Johannesburg. He is there under the care of doctors.

A representative like McGrath, let us add, is quite suitable for the office of the Bush family.

It is noteworthy that the “funeral” South African history, but of a slightly different kind, happened in 2009 with George W. Bush. As notes RBC, South African television channel "ETV News" launched a message about the death of 43-th US President. The message was intended for testing the running line and was accidentally launched on the air.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
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    svp67 2 September 2013 12: 19
    20
    The Tomahawks themselves were launched allegedly to “test” the Syrian defense system.
    Until material evidence has been presented, or the Americans themselves do not recognize their loss, which is almost impossible to hope for, it is too early to rejoice ... The battle is still going on and before it is won, oh how far.
    1. experienced
      experienced 2 September 2013 12: 27
      10
      United States Gains Evidence of Sarin Use in a Suburb of Damascus on August 21

      The British are to blame for everything, and therefore it is necessary to make a no-fly zone over Melk Britain and to fire the chemical plants of the British at the Kyrgyz Republic.
      Minister for Business, Innovation and Vocational Education Vince Cable on Monday to discuss with parliamentarians how last year, one of the British companies received a license to supply dual-use substances to Syria within six months - potassium and sodium fluoride.

      As The Independent emphasizes, it is these two components that can be used as precursors for the manufacture of nerve gas sarin.

      Spanish children

      There is more analogy with Robin Hood in my opinion fits hi
      Many thanks to Oleg for Mosaic hi He is able to find such "pearls" in a heap of information that one simply marvels. Respect and respect drinks
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 2 September 2013 12: 53
        23
        Quote: seasoned
        He is able to find such "pearls" in a heap of information that one simply marvels. Respect and respect

        Alex, hi! Well, after your respect, the author has nothing to add, plus both drinks !
        Quote: Oleg Chuvakin
        The American expert also said that relations between the United States and Russia would become even more tense if it was confirmed that Moscow had delivered C-400 to Damascus.
        Oh how! It turns out the Yankees only against the Bedouins armed bows of the master to fight wassat , but as to advanced weapons, it came so rat squeak and full pants of "democracy" Well, or something simpler
        1. experienced
          experienced 2 September 2013 12: 55
          20
          Quote: Tersky
          and how it came to advanced weapons, so rat squeak and full pants of "democracy"

          Hello Victor hi You forgot about the gases, of course, hydrogen sulfide is not sarin, but pleasant for others is also not enough wassat
          I immediately remembered the joke:
          Obama calls GDP:
          O. Vladimir Vladimirovich, we want to send an airplane and several CDs to check Syrian air defense, what do you say to that?
          P. I will not say anything.
          Oh. Nothing? belay
          P. Well, yes, let the surprise be
          wassat
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 2 September 2013 12: 58
            +3
            Quote: seasoned
            You forgot about the gases, of course, hydrogen sulfide is not sarin, but pleasant for others is also not enough

            Well, given the deficit thereof, they will move it for sale, while posing as a shale laughing
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 19: 17
            +1
            What a funny Russian people ... 1000 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        2. bif
          bif 2 September 2013 17: 43
          50
          Sorry, it’s painfully suitable demotivator)))
          1. ulugbek
            ulugbek 2 September 2013 19: 01
            +5
            laughing wassat He laughed from the Soul. good
          2. Vorkot cat
            Vorkot cat 3 September 2013 12: 32
            +2
            Ah well done, right to the bull's eye wassat
          3. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 19: 18
            +1
            1000 +++++++++++++++ no words ...
        3. Horn
          Horn 3 September 2013 06: 24
          +1
          No, it's just "fighting buggers before the attack"!
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 12: 56
        15
        Quote: seasoned
        The British are to blame

        Knowledgeable people in Baltiysk report that a "special forces war" is going on in Syria. The British SAS screwed up, which served as a veiled refusal of the British warriors to operate in Syria through the votes of Labor in parliament, after consultations.
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 2 September 2013 15: 57
          +3
          CAC screwed up ?! So nobody is cooler there? Well then, only to rock everything, really ...
          1. svp67
            svp67 2 September 2013 16: 02
            +3
            Quote: Mikhail3
            CAC screwed up ?! So nobody is cooler there? Well then, only to rock everything, really ...
            And where and how much to shoot then? Who will give the backlight then? Here you will definitely have to work "on the squares", and this is an increased consumption of missiles, extra money ... "Toad" and the voters will strangle them.
        2. svp67
          svp67 2 September 2013 16: 05
          0
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Knowledgeable people in Baltiysk report that a "special forces war" is going on in Syria.
          Well this is understandable - the script is famous ...
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          British CAC screwed up
          They were caught there or buried alive right away? I wonder who are such good fellows? Do they have cases where the tan is not "fresh"?
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 18: 32
            +5
            Quote: svp67
            They were caught there or buried alive right away? I wonder who are such good fellows? Do they have cases where the tan is not "fresh"?

            Details not reported.
            But I recall the anecdote of the times of the Vietnam War ...
      3. Scoun
        Scoun 2 September 2013 15: 31
        +5
        Quote: seasoned
        The British are to blame for everything, and therefore it is necessary to make a no-fly zone over small Britain and fire

        I don’t know, I don’t know, others all point to ....
        And this is what Leven Jean Bricmont, professor of physics at the Catholic University, says:

        “Over the years, we have been told that our duty is to get involved in the affairs of other states and spend unthinkable money and human resources in order to unleash wars there that supposedly bring peace and democracy there. But time and time again, this results in chaos and devastation, which beneficial only to Israel. "

        and these only nudge and translate the arrows
        The US strike on Syria will restore US containment policy in the region. This was stated by the former head of the Israeli military intelligence (AMAN) and director of the Institute for National Studies Amos Yadlin,
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 2 September 2013 16: 44
          +7
          Quote: Scoun
          The US strike on Syria will restore US containment policy in the region.

          yes yes yes, but in the meantime ...
          Syrian rebels from the Damascus suburb of Ghout admitted to Associated Press reporter Dale Gawlak that they are responsible for a chemical weapons incident last week in which Western powers blamed Bashar al-Assad. The rebels reported that it occurred as a result of improper handling of chemical weapons provided by Saudi Arabia.
          http://oko-planet.su/politik/politiklist/208346-siriyskie-povstancy-priznali-otv
          etstvennost-za-himicheskuyu-ataku.html
          So what will the Americans sing now? fellow
          1. dmitreach
            dmitreach 2 September 2013 17: 33
            +8
            So what will the Americans sing now?

            They have long sung such heresy that in a normal person the brain boils.
            Wangyu: will go to the unconscious. Say, militants are unprincipled people, not even a couple of freedom-loving marginals. You can buy militants for the loot, so they slander themselves, fulfilling the order.
            Identical amyricosa. Hand over ailments. Predictable become.
          2. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 18: 35
            +5
            Quote: Egoza
            So what will the Americans sing now?

            The song will be old - "And I am not me, and the horse is not mine ...". laughing
      4. skullcap
        skullcap 2 September 2013 17: 45
        14
        Quote: seasoned
        The British are to blame for everything, and therefore it is necessary to make a no-fly zone over Melk Britain and to fire the chemical plants of the British at the Kyrgyz Republic.

        And I had the same thought after listening to their Cameron in their parliament. Especially impressed by his neubienny argument: "I believe that the Assad government applied chemical weapons."
        Fir-tree needles !!! I personally, too, am convinced that CW in Syria has used the bloody monarchical regime of England for centuries with the hands of mercenary terrorists. According to his logic, it turns out that I, too, have the full moral right to go to the Duma and demand, on the basis of my faith, to launch a couple of hundred cruise missiles on this damned island.
        P.S. As for Obama, if he nevertheless enters the war against the Syrian people, he has a chance to get into the Guinness book as a war criminal with a peace prize.
    2. experienced
      experienced 2 September 2013 12: 52
      11
      The Russian group of the Navy near the coast of Syria is monitoring airspace, Politikus.ru writes.

      Another good news today
      The leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defense decided to increase the number of reconnaissance ships in the Mediterranean Sea to better illuminate the situation off the coast of Syria, a source at the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia said.

      “The intensification of actions to open and cover the situation in the marine areas adjacent to the Syrian coast will occur due to a slight increase in the number of Russian reconnaissance ships in the Mediterranean,” the source said, ITAR-TASS reports.

      «In particular, on Sunday, the reconnaissance ship of the Black Sea Fleet "Azov" went to the coast of Syria- he specified.

      In my opinion, Russian reconnaissance ships in this region are simply necessary.
      1. Stiletto
        Stiletto 2 September 2013 13: 45
        27
        The opinion of "American military experts" rarely coincides, but what they are certainly right about is that "American military experts believe that Russian ships will put an end to the NATO air strike."
        Lovely!
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 2 September 2013 14: 51
          -22 qualifying.
          Quote: Stiletto
          American military experts believe that Russian ships will put an end to the NATO air strike. "Anyone!

          - not by that much. After several unsuccessful salvoes with "axes" in Syria (of course, the axes will be shot down by the Syrians using target designation from Russian ships), the reconnaissance ships will be sunk by "harpoons". It is clear that these "harpoons" "accidentally" start and "accidentally" get into Russian ships, the States will apologize, but after an apology, volleys across Syria will be much more effective! It is not the first time Amerma has done this on the verge of a foul - remember the bombing of the Chinese embassy, ​​the shelling of Russian diplomats during the evacuation of the Russian embassy in Iraq by the Americans and a bunch of incidents ... neither Russians nor Chinese will be able to launch harpoons. And the response "glitch" on the part of Russian ships in the form of some kind of "mosquito" amers will definitely not recognize a glitch, I admit it only as a deliberate attack without accepting an apology and with all the further ... I would like to believe, but the "cross" is loudly said ...
          1. Stiletto
            Stiletto 2 September 2013 15: 15
            25
            Quote: aksakal
            "harpoons" "accidentally" start and "accidentally" get into Russian ships, the States will apologize


            Well, then we will have to apologize to the states for a couple of "accidentally" sunk aircraft carriers. So to speak, on a general basis. Moreover, in essence, they have not yet answered us for the Kursk.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 18: 37
              +8
              Quote: Stiletto
              they have not yet answered us for the Kursk.

              II, nurse. Debts must be repaid ...
              1. svp67
                svp67 2 September 2013 18: 40
                +6
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                II, nurse. Debts must be repaid ...

                Yes, here they have one "boat" burned out, everything turned on the painter ... maybe ....
              2. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 19: 26
                0
                Yeah, it's time !!! To give debts .. and for the occupation in 18 .. and for much more !!!
          2. slava7075
            slava7075 2 September 2013 15: 24
            +1
            Do not forget that during the war with Yugoslavia our reconnaissance tub "Liman" was there and next to it was "Kursk".
            1. -Max-
              -Max- 2 September 2013 18: 46
              0
              "Lohan" ???
          3. ksan
            ksan 2 September 2013 15: 35
            15
            I would like to believe, but "cross" is loudly said
            I agree, it is too early to speak for "giving up".
            After several unsuccessful salvoes with "axes" in Syria (of course, the axes will be shot down by the Syrians using target designation from Russian ships), the reconnaissance ships will be sunk by "harpoons". It is clear that these "harpoons" "accidentally" start and "accidentally" fall into Russian ships
            But this version, dear aksakal no longer in any framework .... Amer of course scumbags and, but they can not be called brainless. A strike on Russian ships is overkill hi
            1. svp67
              svp67 2 September 2013 16: 53
              +2
              Quote: ksan
              Striking Russian ships is a bust
              The fact is, they are, of course, doraki, but not idiots ...
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 2 September 2013 18: 58
                +5
                Quote: svp67
                The fact is, they are, of course, doraki, but not idiots ...

                - It’s also unwise to shoot at the diplomatic corps of a nuclear power, nevertheless, the diplomatic corps was fired upon, three diplomats were injured.
                And yet - in the 50s, the USSR was a power of terrible power, which in the lungs and amers at that very time in North Korea gave them - did this stop Mr. Borghese from sinking the Soviet ship "Novorossiysk"? He drowned, and even impudently left behind, so that they would immediately guess who and why, risking incurring the anger of the Soviet Union on Italy, still lying in ruins - and the USSR swallowed ...
                And then unsuccessful volleys - once a volley, all or almost all of the "axes" were shot down ... Two. It is clear that it is not the Syrians who are as professional as air defense fighters, but the blame is that they are swimming nearby and pretending to have nothing to do with it. Something I am summing up in the restraint of amers at this moment. They are not used to this. Ok, I agree, "harpoons" are unlikely, but they will come up with some kind of nasty thing - a collision of ships by mistake of a pilot or because of a GPS glitch, if only these reconnaissance ships could be squeezed out of theater - I'm sure of that. Minus something you are a lot, pushed on the most do not indulge, and nobody considered the behavior of amers towards Russians in a historical perspective ... But you still look - you will get the feeling that all the way the amers did nothing to run into to the Russian-American war, and the Russians only did what they marked the borders beyond which the Americans would already be Lyuli ... Examples? U-2 flights over the USSR at the limit of insolence. Violation in the extremely impudent execution of the borders by ships - especially in the Black Sea, when only through a collision it was possible to squeeze the amers abroad ... Or now - Reagan approaches the border between Berlin and West Berlin and UNDERLINED it steps over a meter and stands. In fact, an ordinary citizen is shot right there for this - the "Stasi" did just that, and Reagan stood up like that, KNOWING that the sniper would not pull the trigger - this was a war. More facts for you? How much more? OUTPUT - we are afraid of war, not they.. And while we are afraid of her, but they are not afraid of her, I predict that your reconnaissance ships are unlikely to come whole from this theater, and they are unlikely to be given fruitful work there!
                Only once did Russia show that it could push it - this was in the conflict of 08.08.08. And you immediately saw the result - both the Americans and all NATO faded into a rag. So this, this MALE behavior should be shown constantly, at every step and on every occasion! Then Syria will not even appear in the project. And when you are all the time silent in a rag, you flare up only when there is nowhere to go further, so they will push you exactly until the moment "when there is nowhere further", without overstepping the designated line UNTIL a CERTAIN, suitable moment.
                In short, these boats of small displacement, stuffed with electronics, will terribly annoy the Americans.
                Or it will even be like this - the Americans of Russia put forward an ultimatum - to remove the ships from this water area - Russia will already have to choose - either war, or drive the ships away. I am sure that Russia will HUSDY DRIVE them. Though zaminusite - this is my IMHO.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 2 September 2013 19: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: aksakal
                  Or it will even be like this - the Americans of Russia put forward an ultimatum - to remove the ships from this water area - Russia will already have to choose - either war, or drive the ships away. I’m sure that Russia HAS SMALLLY DRIVED them
                  I think that our leadership has enough wisdom not to lead to such a situation. This is the first thing. Secondly, events are already developing not as the Americans want, I think that everything is not just that and the "surprise" of the GDP, in an interview with some actions and events seems to me not sincere, he knows and understands the "springs" of this process ... So far, that account is not in favor of the United States. And thirdly, sometimes it is necessary to retreat in order to "hit the hardest ..." Tactics and Strategy are classified as arts.
                  1. wown
                    wown 2 September 2013 20: 27
                    +2
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    Quote: aksakal
                    I’m sure that Russia HAS SMALLLY DRIVED them

                    Where such confidence? It's 2013, not 1992, when Baton Rouge brazenly climbed into the water of the Kola Bay.
                    And "Kursk" is not forgotten yet.

                    with what fright? on what basis? their "intelligence"? if the ships are in the neutral zone ...
                2. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 19: 23
                  +6
                  Quote: aksakal
                  I’m sure that Russia HAS SMALLLY DRIVED them

                  Where such confidence? It's 2013, not 1992, when Baton Rouge brazenly climbed into the water of the Kola Bay.
                  And "Kursk" is not forgotten yet.
                3. svp67
                  svp67 2 September 2013 19: 58
                  +2
                  Quote: aksakal
                  CONCLUSION - we are afraid of war, not they.
                  Let's just say that we EXCELLENTLY know what this threatens, and we want to avoid it ... And we must do everything that they want to. There is already the work of politicians ...
                  1. aksakal
                    aksakal 2 September 2013 20: 45
                    10
                    Quote: svp67
                    And we must do everything that they want to. There is already the work of politicians ...
                    - Kazakhs have a saying about some idiots "tayak zhemegen adam"! Literally "tayak" - a stick, "zhemegen" - who did not eat, adam - people. In Russian there will be "people who have never really received good lulyi". Everyone has come across this. The son of an oligarch, who just graduated from the university and immediately got a job with his father as his deputy, utterly impudently talking to ordinary employees - already with honored and authoritative experts at the age ... And how do you propose to make such a person be afraid of Lyuli, if he has not received them in his life, has no idea what it is and cannot even believe that someone on this planet can give them to him? There is only one way - to actually hang these luli on both him and his father - there is simply no other way. No diplomacy, no politics and no words will help here. By the way, not only the Americans (Vietnam is not Lyuli at all, but simply the Amers received surrender without consequences, any indemnities and reparations, for themselves), the British did not receive them in their lives. It so happened - the whole encyclopedia with the letter "A" is crammed with "English - ... them wars", and the Englishmen had no one to fill their history with lyuly. Russian Ivan was lazy. This is where their behavior comes from. Which, by the way, is already unbearable to endure. Really unbearable. It's time to hang them.
                    Quote: svp67
                    we want to avoid it
                    - understand. But this is impossible. As long as there are "tayak zhemegen" nations on this planet, there will be no quiet life until these nations taste, how much a pound of dashing. I do not call, but I coldly state - ok, even if we keep silent in Syria, after Syria we will still have to fight, because the aggressor in Syria will not settle down and will not calm down. This is a life experience, I have a really gray beard.
                    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                      SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 19: 55
                      0
                      It’s about whom you’re talking about, whether it’s not about the Jews who were sick of it, with their free bank interest !!! Think, all the evil from their exorbitant greed, they and the USA have entered into astronomical debt and now they are going to seize Syria with Saudi money, to lower RUSSIA with gas supplies to Europe!
                4. SASCHAmIXEEW
                  SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 19: 40
                  +1
                  Aksakal-minus, this is nonsense, That's when it happens, then you wake up to speak. Either I'm not Russian or you don't know us. In the Black Sea, there was a "bulk" and amers, like the wind blew away! Do you think they forgot about it? until quietly, not in vain this saying arose !! Everything has a limit ... and if amers are not fools and not stupid, they know it
          4. alone
            alone 2 September 2013 16: 07
            +2
            something I can’t believe that the amers will do that.
          5. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 2 September 2013 16: 12
            +8
            But in this case, Nimitz will be sunk ... valiant Syrians! Who else, besides those who already have nothing to lose? And something tells me that the rest of the ships of their group will also not last long. And there is the landing ...
            And even the complete destruction of our ships, this process will not stop. Air defense, of course ... but who wrote about sea-based missiles? Or do you think that Americans are going to set the whole world on fire? So that...
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 19: 58
              0
              If they sink even one of our ships, this is Big PI ... Ts !!!
          6. them
            them 2 September 2013 23: 39
            0
            One of the aircraft carriers may accidentally drown. In general, if it comes to that, then it’s already come ...
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 3 September 2013 19: 53
              +2
              Quote: jimm
              it has already come ...

          7. 11 black
            11 black 3 September 2013 19: 44
            +1
            Quote: aksakal
            not by that much. After several unsuccessful salvoes with "axes" in Syria (of course, the axes will be shot down by the Syrians using target designation from Russian ships), the reconnaissance ships will be sunk by "harpoons". It is clear that these "harpoons" "accidentally" start and "accidentally" fall into Russian ships,

            In this case, 1-2 submarines of 949A are specially shot at the American AUG with the result of its complete annihilation, and we will say that these are all Syrians with their Bastions ...
            By the way, the squadron in Sredizemka is quite capable of detecting a launch by itself to shoot back, and then we will also have to apologize - they say that you were the first to shoot at us, we answered ...
      2. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 14: 46
        10
        Well, they really can give out data for Syrian air defense, especially with regard to sea launches. If the Syrians really registered our specialist instructors, that is, a really working ACS, then this really may be the reason why the United States has not yet been attacked.
        1. svp67
          svp67 3 September 2013 00: 57
          +1
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          Well, they really can give out data for Syrian air defense, especially with regard to sea launches
          Not just they can, but it will be so, information has already passed that one of our reconnaissance ships has entered that area ... They have such a job.
      3. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 2 September 2013 16: 04
        +5
        Well, the guy with the "journalistic tank" was minus, but the "ships to cover the situation" nothing? laughing Probably because the trunks of the ships in abundance? I wonder if the amers will try to stifle insolently or not? On the one hand, as it were, without it, in any way, on the other, our specialists in electronic warfare are just waiting for that. You can’t drown our technology without the very, most extreme technologies.
        "Sitting between the chairs of two dilemmas,
        not worth a broken sou.
        The slightest creak and the whole system pops ...
        Well ... a canopy !! "
      4. vlad767
        vlad767 2 September 2013 16: 18
        10
        An operation in Syria could cost the United States more than $ 1 billion.
        It would be better to help Detroit spend it ...
        The whole world is against Western military intervention in Syria.
        Nobody wants to participate in the US gamble.
        Hollande can give the order.
        Here is a sko_tina ... Gomiks, migrants, now also an invasion. Yes, with such a government of France, and enemies are not needed.
        Mursi will appear before the criminal court.
        Respect of the army of Egypt! good
        Microsoft: “We believe that we have the right to share information with citizens.”
        I suppose they are trying to launder themselves after Snowden's revelations.
        The office of former US President George W. Bush yesterday announced the death of former South African leader Nelson Mandela. In 2009, the South African television channel ETV News launched a message about the death of the 43rd US president.
        Looks decided to take revenge. laughing
        Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada plans to consider 7 suicidal European integration bills.
        Are they suicides or something? Well, you will be 2 Baltic. Welcome! winked
        Gas pipeline to South Korea through the DPRK.
        Across North Korea? belay You can forget it.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 2 September 2013 16: 48
          +5
          Quote: vlad767
          The Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada plans to consider 7 suicidal European integration bills.

          Oh wait. Going to review and considered - two big differences. the lads came after vacation, they gained strength, how can we do without massacre? It will be necessary to watch our circus now, if shown, but not cut off the live broadcast. laughing
        2. Basil123
          Basil123 2 September 2013 18: 44
          +3
          by the way oland not seeing those belay similarities to tie absorber
        3. Revolver
          Revolver 2 September 2013 22: 03
          +3
          Quote: vlad767
          An operation in Syria could cost the United States more than $ 1 billion.
          It would be better to help Detroit spend it ...

          Detroit, as it is, is already dead. If you manage to "revive" it by injecting dough, it will turn out to be a zombie. Who cares about it? It will be, as they say in America, throwing good money after bad.
          Another thing is that Assad does not cost this billion dough, and even vice versa. As long as al-Qaeda and hezbollons actively wet each other there, they would sit on the sidelines and rejoice, and if they want to chemicalize, then it has not gone beyond the border of Syria, and okay. That's just a pity the kids, they did not commit anything.
          The problem, as I see it from here, is rather that Obama will still find a way to spend the loot on things that not only I personally, but most Americans do not approve of. But at least I don’t feel guilty for this - I, unlike many other people, did NOT vote for him.
      5. m262
        m262 2 September 2013 22: 05
        0
        As well as closed communication channels with Syrian air defense (for target designation wink )
    3. Joker
      Joker 2 September 2013 13: 08
      +7
      It is planned to strike at the military and political headquarters of Assad, the Ministry of Defense, the General Staff, the positions of the Republican Guard defending Damascus, the head office of the Ba'ath Party.

      Yes, judging by the list, civilians will be killed a lot by a blow, idiots. I understand the military base, where the warriors are alone, but all their targets within the city are located next to residential buildings.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 2 September 2013 16: 17
        +4
        So they always do that. It’s necessary to fight against the army, it’s scary ... and if terror is planted in civilians, the army itself will surrender in order to save its families at least somehow. So they will cover Damascus with a carpet, at the slightest opportunity.
      2. Basil123
        Basil123 2 September 2013 18: 49
        +2
        it is necessary to intimidate the population so that the panic was therefore civil hi
    4. Val_y
      Val_y 2 September 2013 13: 13
      +5
      Hehe, and who admits this, that the axes also shot down the 22nd (this is finally a tin for the image, a 5th generation plane no matter how), so we won’t recognize it by anyone. There, during the storming of Ben La Den's house, Back Hoh lost the newest, with complete superiority, so .....
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 2 September 2013 14: 00
        14
        Quote: Val_Y
        Hehe, and who admits this, that the axes shot down the 22nd

        You are right, who wants to screw up like that, because these are invisible planes, and why are they invisible? Yes, because in the airspace no one saw them, only on takeoff. And in our case, the test passed, this golden toy turns out to remain invisible to the sky. Now about three hundredand so on, that I don’t hear comments from colleagues from Israel who, with foam at their mouths, proved here to all of us that Israel will not allow these complexes to be deployed by Syria, they say, both Syrians and so on. But in fact, the dome screwed up, and the raptor's wings were cut. We look forward to further developments.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 14: 38
          +9
          Quote: Sirocco
          I don’t hear any comments from colleagues from Israel who, with foam at their mouths, proved here to all of us that Israel would not allow these complexes to be deployed by Syria, they say, you and the Syrians are all the same.

          In Tsahal, they probably smoke nervously and bite their nails. Each other.
          And the tactics of such ambushes (the advancement of 1-2 air defense systems to meet the route of the alleged flight of the "peacekeepers", followed by camouflage) were used in Vietnam.
        2. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 14: 49
          +4
          Well, no one checked the dome except for the casamas, an extremely expensive thing. As for the raptor, if the amers sent him there for something, they did something incomprehensible to me, it makes no sense, they don’t act like that, the Jews made everything much easier and more effective, namely, a blow from Jordan without entering Syrian airspace.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 3 September 2013 20: 08
            0
            So this one in Jordan and landed laughing
            But rather, the team passed _ Stop waiting, bring down all the suspicious!
            Yes, if they shot down the 22nd, then the Yusovtsy will be silent by definition! Dead! Otherwise, shreds in the back streets will fly upstairs! For squandering the budget for empty ideas!
        3. Papakiko
          Papakiko 2 September 2013 15: 51
          +3
          Quote: Sirocco
          But in fact, the dome screwed up, and the raptor's wings were cut

          Well, with the dome it was clear.
          But about the FU-22, Oleg dug up an interesting one.
          With the exception of Alaska, do they not fly anywhere, or am I mistaken (people tend to)? Educate someone who knows, but the S-400 and the FU-22 (suddenly the FU-35 will be) belay everything is fantastic.
          As for the knocked down "axes", the latter can be brought down with "Shilka" and "Cliff".
          Quote: aksakal
          This is not the first time that Amerma has acted on the verge of a foul - let us recall the bombing of the Chinese embassy, ​​the shelling during the evacuation of the Russian embassy in Iraq by Americans of Russian diplomats, and a whole bunch of incidents

          This is not a foul.
          When there is nothing to oppose in response to spitting, then smears on the face are smeared.
          Oleg, we are waiting for new reviews from you, II.I. and thank you.
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco 2 September 2013 16: 15
            +3
            Quote: Papakiko
            But about the FU-22, Oleg dug up an interesting one.

            As always, who benefits from it ???? If misinformation, then in this situation, both parties can have "profits". Although the very fact of "probing the air defense of Syria" on the eve of the alleged attack should be. Here on the next branch KA 52 presented another version.
            Ka-52

            This brings me into doubt:
            The news about the F-31 Raptor downed on August 22 was reported by the American newspaper "Los Angeles Times".

            Very similar to the information reset of the State Department. So that the people do not ask: "Is the president crumpled?"
            Under this matter, Obama will write off his indecision. The United States is clearly not the problem. We would like to start bombing a long time ago. Still, Amer’s war machine is the strongest at the moment. A downed planes would then be attributed to the weather or equipment failures.
            IMHO: Barak wants to make it to the summit in St. Petersburg, only a little bit is left (G-20 summit in St. Petersburg is the eighth meeting of the leaders of the G5 countries, which will be held in Russia, in St. Petersburg on September 6-2013, XNUMX year) and talk about something with our GDP, and so that the ratings do not fall, they launched a "duck".
            So let's see what Elena says. Awww.
          2. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 18: 40
            +2
            There are 5 pieces in Jordan, or 4 left laughing
        4. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 2 September 2013 16: 21
          +5
          Colleagues from Israel greatly reduced their activity. They fear a campaign of questions, what they taught the valiant Georgians. How they trained them for a war with the Armed Forces of Abkhazia ... oh yes, the Abkhazians have no Armed Forces! I don’t want to explain to my Israeli friends how they taught Georgians to shoot children in the back of the head. So now they appear only in topics directly about Israel ...
          1. IRBIS
            IRBIS 2 September 2013 16: 44
            +5
            Quote: Mikhail3
            Colleagues from Israel greatly reduced activity.

            They are very busy right now - a lot of work in the bomb shelters. You have to do everything - hope for the "Dome", but don't make a mistake yourself!
            1. igor67
              igor67 2 September 2013 16: 50
              +4
              Quote: IRBIS
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Colleagues from Israel greatly reduced activity.

              They are very busy right now - a lot of work in the bomb shelters. You have to do everything - hope for the "Dome", but don't make a mistake yourself!

              ???? what work belay a colleague, as in Russia, the rear service is engaged in. the people are working, I also came back from work an hour ago
              1. IRBIS
                IRBIS 2 September 2013 17: 06
                +1
                Quote: igor67
                I, too, came an hour ago from work

                Igor, you would tell us what you hear there. Without emotions, purely their observations.
                1. igor67
                  igor67 2 September 2013 17: 13
                  +8
                  Quote: IRBIS
                  Quote: igor67
                  I, too, came an hour ago from work

                  Igor, you would tell us what you hear there. Without emotions, purely their observations.

                  and nothing happens, people are preparing for the holidays, after 3 days the Jewish New Year, to the stats in Russia before Peter, was also celebrated in September, before I wrote that there were explosions in Syria, now there has been silence for two weeks now. The only thing shown on the news in the Capitals people remembered gas masks, but how much can you sit in it on the street under 40 heat wassat
                  1. IRBIS
                    IRBIS 2 September 2013 17: 27
                    +4
                    Quote: igor67
                    through xnumx day jewish new year

                    Well, with the coming you! Of course, we can support, but purely so that an excuse not to look for a long time ...
                    1. Apollo
                      Apollo 2 September 2013 17: 30
                      +2
                      Quote: igor67
                      and not what is not happening, the people are preparing for the holidays, after 3 of the day the Jewish New Year,



                      heartily congratulations drinks
                      1. igor67
                        igor67 2 September 2013 18: 24
                        +4
                        Quote: Apollon
                        Quote: igor67
                        and not what is not happening, the people are preparing for the holidays, after 3 of the day the Jewish New Year,



                        heartily congratulations drinks

                        roll my friend drinks
                      2. serg. 75
                        serg. 75 2 September 2013 20: 03
                        +4
                        I will support! drinksNew Year in 40C, I certainly don’t understand, but anyway drinks
                  2. igor67
                    igor67 2 September 2013 17: 31
                    +5
                    Quote: IRBIS
                    Quote: igor67
                    through xnumx day jewish new year

                    Well, with the coming you! Of course, we can support, but purely so that an excuse not to look for a long time ...

                    Thank you !! that's the reason for us, it's just a little hot, plus this uncertainty, otherwise Omar wrote about the basement, there are no basements
                2. Egoza
                  Egoza 2 September 2013 19: 36
                  +4
                  Quote: igor67
                  through xnumx day jewish new year

                  Happy you! Only here, discuss it at home -
                  "But while Tyagnibok and his specially trained for the export information campaign are naming a new image of a tolerant party, in Uman others the Nazis are preparing a large rally against the Hasidim. Judging by the appeals and successfully turned up quotes from the PSS, Taras Shevchenko like this: “When you need peace, you need to smack a bunch of Holes, I need to wiggle up a sire, and you’ll need to wake up too soon”, the action will be as peaceful as possible.
                  Hasidov, colonizing (as in the release - ed.) Uman, it is proposed to uncompromisingly drive out of the Ukrainian town, but for now the Svoboda activists reported about an intermediate release - the demolition of a booth illegally installed by the Hasid ... "
                  http://polemika.com.ua/article-125701.html#title
                  1. igor67
                    igor67 2 September 2013 19: 51
                    +4
                    Quote: Egoza
                    Quote: igor67
                    through xnumx day jewish new year

                    Happy you! Only here, discuss it at home -
                    "But while Tyagnibok and his specially trained for the export information campaign are naming a new image of a tolerant party, in Uman others the Nazis are preparing a large rally against the Hasidim. Judging by the appeals and successfully turned up quotes from the PSS, Taras Shevchenko like this: “When you need peace, you need to smack a bunch of Holes, I need to wiggle up a sire, and you’ll need to wake up too soon”, the action will be as peaceful as possible.
                    Hasidov, colonizing (as in the release - ed.) Uman, it is proposed to uncompromisingly drive out of the Ukrainian town, but for now the Svoboda activists reported about an intermediate release - the demolition of a booth illegally installed by the Hasid ... "
                    http://polemika.com.ua/article-125701.html#title

                    Thank you Elena for the congratulations, so chase these Hasidim, they drive nowhere without working, then damn it, you work for 12 hours and will not break out. maybe it was necessary to give the Hasidim the remains of Rabbi Nakhum, as they asked, otherwise they found someone to earn money on laughing
            2. alone
              alone 2 September 2013 17: 16
              +1
              wassat no)) you didn’t come from work. you sit in the basement and write from there)) wassat wink
              1. igor67
                igor67 2 September 2013 17: 28
                +6
                Quote: lonely
                wassat no)) you didn’t come from work. you sit in the basement and write from there)) wassat wink

                in a helmet and gas mask. wassat can lose weight
    5. 787nkx
      787nkx 2 September 2013 16: 07
      11
      I wonder who shot down than shot down.
      The prototype of the f-22 is the F-117, a rather noticeable target on the S-300 screen.
      To ensure complete invisibility, it is necessary to reduce the image intensifier tube (effective reflecting surface) every 10 times. For this, only the pilot's clock should be left out of the metal, the rest is carbon fiber. Such aircraft have not yet been invented.
    6. a52333
      a52333 2 September 2013 16: 31
      +3
      Maybe all the same our "Dezoy" press?
  2. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 2 September 2013 13: 32
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    The Tomahawks themselves were launched allegedly to “test” the Syrian defense system.


    got ahead request

    Some unnamed sources from Washington indicate that they were shot down with the help of “Shell” batteries. The Tomahawks themselves were launched allegedly to “test” the Syrian defense system.


    - tested? Did the test succeed? I think yes.
  3. Deniska999
    Deniska999 2 September 2013 14: 30
    +2
    The fact is that America does not want war now. People are tired of this.
  4. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 14: 44
    +4
    Recognition of the downed F22 is tantamount to the end of the F22 advertising company and the probable cancellation of contracts previously concluded for it, so even from the financial side it is not beneficial for them to admit this, not to mention reputational damage. They will try to classify better than the kenedy and 9/11 provocations.
    1. experienced
      experienced 2 September 2013 14: 51
      12
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      Recognition of the downed F22 is tantamount to the end of the F22 advertising company and the likely cancellation of previously concluded contracts for it

      The Americans do not even supply the F-22 to their allies, they are secret. In my opinion, this is correct. Unfortunately, the fastest thing is this "duck" if it were true, then all the agencies would be broadcasting about it now (remember the case with the Turkish Phantom) and besides, I have no idea what the F-22 had to do in Syria request This is a plane to gain dominance in the air (if I’m not mistaken), and for reconnaissance of air defense the Americans would use cheaper planes, and most likely allied planes.
      So do not "inflame" yourself. wink
      1. ksan
        ksan 2 September 2013 15: 45
        +5
        experienced (2) RU Today, 14:51 ↑

        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        Recognition of the downed F22 is tantamount to the end of the F22 advertising company and the likely cancellation of previously concluded contracts for it

        The Americans do not even supply the F-22 to their allies, they are secret. In my opinion, this is correct. Unfortunately, the fastest thing is that if it were true, then all the agencies would be broadcasting about it now (remember the case with the Turkish Phantom) and besides, I have no idea what the F-22 needed to be done in Syria request This is an aircraft for conquest air supremacy (if I am not mistaken), and for air defense reconnaissance, the Americans would use cheaper aircraft, and most likely Allied aircraft.
        So do not "inflame" yourself. wink
        I also doubt the reliability of the information about the F-22. Something "noise" is not. With the current informational openness, such an "event" is difficult to conceal. Yes, and "checking" the Syrian air defense F-22 is somehow not very smart fellow
      2. Scoun
        Scoun 2 September 2013 15: 52
        +4
        Quote: seasoned
        (remember the case of the Turkish Phantom)

        Well here you can answer in your own words)))
        we recall the case of an Israeli plane whose pilots ejected because of a "malfunction" on the plane ....
        and which was reported a few days after the real loss.
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 2 September 2013 16: 42
          +1
          Followed this link from Syria. http://www.dampress.net/index.php?page=show_det&select_page=6&id=31458 translated into Google, There is a place for what they write about, that's just who will confirm that. All media are silent.
      3. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 18: 44
        +1
        I completely agree with you, or drones or f16-18. The raptor there simply had nothing to do.
      4. Beck
        Beck 2 September 2013 19: 48
        -5
        QUESTION.

        Who applied sarin - the army or the opposition?

        The army has sarin, it is well known. It is impossible to produce sarin in a makeshift way, in the basement, by the opposition, as Gromova wrote, this will be tantamount to suicide. Zarin is very toxic and for its production we need special, industrial equipment with all the safety equipment.

        If the opposition used sarin, then why aren't the Assad soldiers hit in the photographs? But only civilians and children.

        And it seems that the whole catastrophe began not only because of the mass defeat, but also the interception of a telephone conversation between the senior officer of the General Staff of the Syrian army and the commander of the Syrian chemical forces, the conversation indicated the use of chemical weapons.

        But, quite possibly, there was no interception. I heard this in the news only once. Who wants to object, I ask for arguments. Who wants to tear a shirt on his chest, I ask for the red button.
        1. clidon
          clidon 2 September 2013 20: 14
          +3
          It all comes down to the fact that the attack was inspired by the rebels in order to gain Western support. Accordingly, the goals should not be Assad soldiers, but women and children.
          Sarin is still not so harsh, as the Aum Shinrikyo sect used during chemical attacks in the Tokyo subway. That is, it was completely for itself and received and transported and sprayed.
          Of course, the government forces were certainly tempted to use such weapons against the militants - it’s an effective thing and you won’t suffer any losses, but NATO pained the condition for its non-use. That is, the military, logically, should have been given the strictest ban on the use of chemical weapons because it is fraught with air strikes by the United States and its allies.
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 2 September 2013 20: 18
          +4
          Quote: Beck
          If the opposition used sarin, then why aren't the Assad soldiers hit in the photographs? But only civilians and children.

          No wonder it is said that a well-formed question already contains an answer.
          And do not pretend that you did not understand what I said.
          Yes, information about the presence of Hezbollah militants in the hospitals of Lebanon with symptoms of AE defeat was reported for your information.
          And now you will exclaim _ You didn’t know how to deal with OM, and here you are!
          Not funny .
          If even in the USA September 11, many are already considering not in connection with Al Qaeda ...
          That pretty scary life becomes.
          I can be afraid of strangers, but a stab in the back from the type of my own to unite the nation ...
          Yes, with a return bully
        3. aksakal
          aksakal 2 September 2013 22: 41
          +5
          Quote: Beck
          The army has sarin, it is well known.

          - respected, sarin is a primitive, and it is produced in a makeshift way. What is it
          Quote: Beck
          tantamount to suicide
          - that is, it’s very dangerous, excuse me, to make a grenade launcher in artisanal conditions of death similarly, and what, does this stop the militants? Look at YouTube - a bunch of videos not faked in any way, where a militant squat makes a grenade launcher for himself and then tries to knock out armored vehicles - as a result of a flare they fly from the unfortunate shooter. And nothing - less willing to make a grenade launcher does not become. With chemistry - the same thing. They themselves are poisoned - I regularly read reports from SANA and other news agencies - this is already the fifth case of self-poisoning of militants.
          And yet - are you seriously hinting that the Syrian army will be exchanged for such a primitive as sarin? Beck, tell me how much you get paid and where you get it - is it even worth it? If it’s worth it, then it’s not on this resource, but on the other, I will also drive nonsense that you drive here laughing laughing May you be aware that the Syrian army is not armed with sarin at all, but with binary chemical weapons. Binary means two different substances, each of which is absolutely safe and easy to store. But if you combine them in one bottle - your sarin not only nervously smokes on the sidelines. there the lethal dose for the forehead is calculated in nanograms - you don’t even need to inhale the forehead, it’s already dead. And there is no gas mask there, by the way, against a binary chemical weapon. This is the Syrian army. And your sarin is not even a weapon of the Second World War, but earlier.
          Quote: Beck
          But only civilians and children.
          - clean, so nice kids with fluffy white foam from the mouthlaughing laughing
          Well, again, what would you know - in case of poisoning with sarin, the foam rushes not only from the mouth, from all places at the forehead everything rushes. And the picture is very unpleasant and very "fragrant". So a person poisoned by sarin cannot lie clean a priori. And yet - the foam there is not white and fluffy, but with blood, since the lungs are affected. Now it is clear,
          Quote: Beck
          why are there no astonished Assad soldiers in the photographs?
          - because it is a photographic substitution for limited and narrow-minded inhabitants, to whom I in no way include you. I think that you just found a job. Tell me the fishing places? laughing
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 2 September 2013 22: 57
            +1
            Everything is much more complicated. The army also has sarin. True, another in composition — substances that increase its resistance are introduced into it. Plain, classic, bodysuit before use. By the way, binary ammunition is also designed to increase the shelf life of explosives.

            According to the militants, two years ago an improvised improvised homemade binary munition was found in Iraq. Everything was in order with chemistry, there was simply no mixing of the compounds. So they have very good specialists.
        4. Lopatov
          Lopatov 2 September 2013 23: 02
          +1
          Quote: Beck
          It is impossible to produce sarin in a makeshift way, in the basement, by the opposition, as Gromova wrote, this will be tantamount to suicide. Zarin is very toxic and for its production we need special, industrial equipment with all the safety equipment.

          Good morning. Do you know when sarin was first used for terrorist purposes? That's right, March 20, 1995 on the Tokyo subway. Have you heard about Aum Shinrikyo?
        5. The Indian Joe
          The Indian Joe 2 September 2013 23: 54
          +2
          If the opposition used sarin, then why aren't the Assad soldiers hit in the photographs? But only civilians and children.
          “Beck, you are obviously unhealthy, since you write such nonsense.

          Take an antipyretic if you have a fever and think about it.

          To get started - consider your pearl
          It is impossible to produce sarin in a makeshift way, in the basement, by the opposition, as Gromova wrote, this will be tantamount to suicide. Zarin is very toxic and for its production we need special, industrial equipment with all the safety equipment.
          ... Do you know that there was such a sect "Aum Shin Rikyo" in Japan, which produced sarin without any equipment and suicide (and even with it)? Further, in Turkey they have already caught Syrian militants (by the way, they were released) with cylinders of sarin, obviously from Libya or from other sources. Which proves that the SSA had sarin.

          If the opposition used sarin, then why aren't the Assad soldiers hit in the photographs? But only civilians and children.
          - for this, the opposition applied it in civilian ways to provoke an emotional reaction of the whole world, to blame Assad for its use and provoke an invasion - because nothing else will save them from destruction. And by the way, on YouTube there is a video where SSA fighters shoot containers of toxic substances.

          And it seems that the whole catastrophe began not only because of the mass defeat, but also the interception of a telephone conversation between the senior officer of the General Staff of the Syrian army and the commander of the Syrian chemical forces, the conversation indicated the use of chemical weapons
          - a test tube with white powder, this is your interception wassat
          After a memorable meeting of the UN and the U.S. intelligence service still not found in Iraq, no one but Hollywood believes.

          And the question is, if you think that Assin traded sarin, answer, why should he do this shortly after the arrival of UN inspectors on the use of chemical weapons? This is suicide, and Assad knows that. Moreover, even without WMD, he crushes the militants with great success.
          1. Beck
            Beck 3 September 2013 11: 37
            -2
            Quote: Injun Joe
            Beck, you are obviously unwell

            Quote: Injun Joe
            Take an antipyretic if you have a fever


            I will answer you separately. You are in almost every comment to me care about my health. Does it bother you? Do you need it?

            You better worry about the health of your mother-in-law, if there is one, in one direction or another. It will be more useful.
            1. papik09
              papik09 27 October 2013 03: 12
              0
              Late I found this post. That is OK.
              Beck, reading your "comments", I come to the conclusion: that the brain was not put into your head even during the preliminary design, and during the manufacture they forgot to check the presence of it ... wassat
        6. Sandov
          Sandov 3 September 2013 01: 50
          0
          Beck staged it. Labuda. Do not worry about this.
          1. Beck
            Beck 3 September 2013 09: 53
            -2
            Quote: Sandov
            Beck staged it. Labuda. Do not worry about this.


            I will answer all at once. I am not a specialist and I agree with the opinion that sarin can be produced in an artisanal way, one might say "unrefined" like moonshine. But it is inappropriate to lay the same base for Japanese sectarian idiots and any opposition fighting against the dictatorial regime.

            Recently, chemical weapons, and most importantly, against their people, were used only by dictators. Saddam Hussein and Assad now. And all sorts of talk about fake cases of small-shavens, amers is empty talk in the form of fabrications and gossip.

            AND LATEST. Russia inherited from the USSR received great political influence in the Middle East. Half of the Arab world was respectful of Russia in the person of the USSR. And how could one manage to lose all this influence in 22 years (since 1991)? If the first decade of these 22 can still be explained by epoch-making reforms in Russia itself, then the last 12 years are the inadequate, short-sighted policies of the Kremlin leadership that brought and will bring many problems in the future of Russia.

            Unconditional support for the bloody, dictatorial regimes of Hussein, Gaddafi, without an objective analysis of the current political situation, contrary to the will of the peoples who embarked on the path of armed struggle against dictators, the Kremlin ... wrecked all its influence.

            And finally loses its influence with the support of Assad. Assad’s regime will fall sooner or later. And Russia will remain in the Middle East with nothing.

            AND AT LEAST SO LITTLE TO RESTORE THE FORMER, LONG YEARS WILL BE NEEDED.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 3 September 2013 17: 22
              +1
              Quote: Beck
              And finally loses its influence with the support of Assad. Assad’s regime will fall sooner or later. And Russia will remain in the Middle East with nothing.

              “Beck, thank you so much for changing the flag!” This flag is more to the face. If you continue to appear under this flag, I will forgive a lot, not minus, and in general I will just argue, because I will perceive you under such a flag as an opponent, with whom I need to argue. Under the Kazakh flag, I can’t take you differently than as a traitor, and hence all the statements that are unpleasant on my part.
              Please take into account my request and post it under this flag under which you posted this post. I don’t want to be under the same flag, I urge you to take it into account.
              1. Beck
                Beck 3 September 2013 20: 50
                0
                Quote: aksakal
                Beck, thank you so much for changing the flag!


                Do I have nothing more to do, or what? Due to technical problems, the flag changes the provider or who else is there.

                Quote: aksakal
                If you continue to appear under this flag, I’ll forgive a lot, not minus and generally just argue,


                Do not forgive. Less. Do not argue. Walk past if there are any other comments.

                Quote: aksakal
                Under the Kazakh flag, I can’t take you differently than as a traitor, and hence all the statements that are unpleasant on my part.


                Take it whatever you want, I’m not a decree for you. And not that unpleasant remarks, at least give out seven-story turns to me - Listen, all the entertainment will be.

                Quote: aksakal
                I don’t want to be under the same flag, I urge you to take it into account.


                You don’t want and don’t need it, do I really need it? It’s like a lightbulb where you will be located, at least in that place even in the entom. And what should I consider? You are neither a matchmaker, nor a brother, nor an enemy, nor a fake. Okromya as a visitor to the site, you are no one to me.
              2. papik09
                papik09 27 October 2013 03: 14
                0
                "This flag is more to face."
                And the scoundrel is all to face drinks laughing
            2. Cynic
              Cynic 3 September 2013 18: 05
              0
              Quote: Beck
              the bloody, dictatorial regimes of Hussein, Gaddafi ...

              Now there is peace and quiet, God's grace.
              Only 2013 year http://www.rg.ru/sujet/2164/
              1. Beck
                Beck 3 September 2013 20: 33
                0
                Quote: Cynic
                Now there is peace and quiet, God's grace.


                There is not silence and grace, but life IS IMPROVED. And you, that right after the civil war and the overthrow of dictators, you want milk rivers and jelly banks?

                And in Iraq, in general, at the moment, it’s not the Amers or the local administration that is being blown up, but the Sunnis and Shiites blowing each other up at the first opportunity and the first impossibility.

                The largest watershed in human relations today is not socialism and capitalism, it is not idealism and materialism, it is not south - north and west - east, it is RELIGION.

                These religions divide one humanity into Christians and Muslims, Buddhists and Lamaists, etc. This is due to religious intolerance. Irish Catholics kill Protestant Irish and vice versa.

                This 1300 year old event, the murder of the blessed Ali, is forcing Sunnis and Shiites to blow up each other now.
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 4 September 2013 17: 35
                  0
                  Quote: Beck
                  This is a 1300 year old event, the assassination of the blessed Ali ...

                  And accordingly, now there is no crime event, for so many years ago!
                  Hmm.
                  Respected Beck it’s just interesting to me that you are really convinced, or rather adhere to this point of view:
                  Bloody dictatorships are overthrown, freedom has come, life is getting better! And the fact that the victims, so already 1300 years of sacrifice.
                  So who are you _ Sadducees, Pharisees or Essenes?
                  1. Beck
                    Beck 4 September 2013 23: 48
                    0
                    Quote: Cynic
                    And accordingly, now there is no crime event, for so many years ago!


                    He said as he said, but everyone perceives to the extent of their internal attitudes. But I did not expect from you. I meant that the massacre between Shiites and Sunnis began from there and still does not end. Knives were replaced with trotyl. And all these explosions in Iraq are interfaith enmity, and not the struggle of the Iraqi people against the new leadership.

                    Quote: Cynic
                    Bloody dictatorships are overthrown, freedom has come, life is getting better! And the fact that the victims, so already 1300 years of sacrifice.


                    Under Hussein, there were much more casualties, regardless of nationality. These are Iraqis themselves, and Iranians during the meaningless 8 year war unleashed by Hussein, and whose Kuwaitis were killed by the army of Hussein during the occupation of Kuwait, and the Kurds were etched with chemical warfare agents. Now all this is not and is not expected, since there is no dictator of a tyrant.

                    Let us now cry for Pol Pot who destroyed 1/3 of his people and curse, as an Amer, a Vietnamese whose army overthrew the bloody dictator. Let's cry for Franco, Pinochet, Salazar. Let's grieve over Mussolini, which the Italians hung by their legs, and again the amers are to blame, as their army moved from south to north of Italy, which allowed the Italians to catch Mussolini. Yes, that there is little things, justify Hitler, he dearly loved Eve and felt sorry for the dog.

                    Gaddafi, Hussein, Assad, Ben Ali are the Arab brothers of the above dictators.
                    1. Cynic
                      Cynic 5 September 2013 11: 53
                      0
                      Quote: Beck
                      everyone perceives the measure of their inner attitudes.

                      It would be strange if it were otherwise, if only _ This work. bully
                      Quote: Beck
                      Knives were replaced with TNT.

                      Than rich, earlier means only knives were enough.
                      Quote: Beck
                      Under Hussein, there were much more casualties, regardless of nationality.

                      As some forum users like to say in us _ Links, proofs.
                      Quote: Beck
                      Let's cry now for ...

                      Think not crying?
                      Unfortunately, cry, cry and justify! Where even at the state level.


                      Quote: Beck
                      Hitler justify

                      Now this is not the worst sin, intolerance towards LGBT, now it sounds worse.
                      Hmm, discussion ...
                      You, dear Beck, did not understand the most important thing. _ These peoples have decided the right to choose. As it is not scary and inhumane it sounds.
                      Ever interfered with family conflicts? Very situationally similar.
                    2. Beck
                      Beck 5 September 2013 18: 41
                      0
                      Quote: Cynic
                      These peoples decided the right to choose.
                      (deprived of the right to choose).

                      Under Hussein, Gaddafi, Ben Ali, this right did NOT exist among Iraqis, Libyans, and Tunisians.

                      The CHOICE appeared when dictators were thrown off. Now these peoples themselves choose power. Do not like the chosen power, in the next election they will choose another.

                      Uroshniki yelled - Without dictators, the power of terrorist Islamists will be established. And in what country, which got rid of dictators, is the orthodox power of Al Qaeda, Hezbollah or Wahhabis now? WHERE?

                      In free ELECTIONS in Tunisia moderate Islamists won, in Libya a secular, non-Islamic party, in Iraq, too, not a religious government.

                      The Middle East wakes up from medieval religious stagnation. And Egypt is the most vivid confirmation of this, the Egyptians do not want to live under the rule of Muslim brothers. But the Libyans, Tunisians, Iraqis also did not want to live under the rule of dictators. Syrians do not want to either.
                    3. Cynic
                      Cynic 5 September 2013 19: 17
                      0
                      Quote: Beck
                      (deprived of the right to choose).

                      Thank you.
                      Quote: Beck
                      Do not like the chosen power, in the next election they will choose another.

                      Is it?
                      Why wait for the election when there are faster methods.
                      Quote: Beck
                      And Egypt is the most vivid confirmation of this.
                      wink
                      Quote: Beck
                      moderate Islamists defeated in Tunisia, secular, non-Islamic party in Libya, not in Iraq either

                      I won’t say anything about Tunisia, as it has so far done without violent democratization, but Libya, Iraq.
                      Hmm, are there such states? Not in the UN, but in life ?! You still remember Somalia.
                      Yes, still
                      Links, proofs by
                      Quote: Beck
                      Under Hussein, there were much more casualties, regardless of nationality.

                      hi
                    4. Beck
                      Beck 5 September 2013 19: 42
                      0
                      Quote: Cynic
                      Why wait for the election when there are faster methods.


                      Well, why are you like that. That is why dictators were thrown off so that there were only elections without other methods of changing power.

                      Quote: Cynic
                      but Libya, Iraq.


                      And you, that you would very much like to have Husseins and Gaddafi remaining in Iraq and Libya? So that they attack neighbors from time to time, give orders for explosions of passenger aircraft of third countries, poison their own people with chemical weapons.

                      In addition, the Iraqi government is independent in its decisions, and not under pressure from the United States.
                      Example. Recently, Iraq’s governments signed an agreement to supply US $ 800 million fighter jets. Uroshniki almost drowned in the foam of gloating. And they did not remember that before that Iraq issued a concession for the development of oil fields, for $ 2 billion, to the Russian Lukoil, and not to the amers. And how dare. And a little earlier they signed an agreement with Russia on the supply of Russian weapons for $ 3 billion. Of course, spending money on weapons is not their best use, but it is their business. And how do you think such actions could be carried out by non-independent states represented by their own governments.

                      Quote: Cynic
                      Links, proofs by


                      I am a man of Soviet times, not the Internet era. I’m doing my analysis from the general television news programs, and not from what I read on the Internet. Therefore, the links are incomprehensible to me. And what proofs are I do not know at all.

                      And what links are needed when in reality, in history there was a war with Iran and an invasion of Kuwait. To this, or what to give links?
                    5. Cynic
                      Cynic 5 September 2013 20: 03
                      0
                      Quote: Beck
                      That is why dictators were thrown off so that there were only elections without other methods of change

                      Here you are and I repeat
                      Quote: Beck
                      And Egypt is the most vivid confirmation of this.

                      How they democratized their penultimate president, it's about Muhammad Mursi if that.
                      Quote: Beck
                      I am a man of Soviet times, not the Internet era

                      Yes, too, as if not a teenager.
                      Quote: Beck
                      I’m doing my analysis from the general television news programs, and not from what I read on the Internet.

                      Apparently mainly EuroNews, BBC Russian and what type of Echo ...
                    6. Beck
                      Beck 5 September 2013 20: 13
                      0
                      Quote: Cynic
                      Apparently mainly EuroNews, BBC Russian and what type of Echo ..


                      Euronews in Russian, RBC, NTV and First channels of Russia and Kazakhstan. In my package of television programs, ECHOs and others are not. And I did not make up the package, but what was offered. And programs in Russian and Kazakh languages, I do not speak foreign languages, even with a dictionary.
                    7. Cynic
                      Cynic 5 September 2013 20: 47
                      0
                      Quote: Beck
                      Euronews in Russian

                      By itself .
                      Most interestingly, the TV viewing packages are similar, but the conclusions ...
                      True, I also have Internet RSS feeds
                      "Siberian News Agency - Omsk" - news of the Siberian Federal District, Omsk region and Omsk.
                      www.itar-tass.com
                      Military Review
                      News
                      Taiga.info
                      subscribe.ru
                      etc.
                    8. Beck
                      Beck 6 September 2013 09: 38
                      0
                      Quote: Cynic
                      Most interestingly, the TV viewing packages are similar, but the conclusions ...


                      Television news, just news, but they go through internal attitudes that have been formed since childhood and are converted into personal opinions.

                      That is, from the concepts of what is Good and what is Bad. It’s bad to break glass windows. Good to help people. It’s bad to kill. Good to be merciful. Bad to threaten. It is good to listen to the opinions of others. It’s bad not to value the opinion of the people. It’s bad to ignore him, etc.

                      The seizure of power by military violence - Bad. The demand of the people to hold free elections of power is good. To give orders for the destruction of passenger aircraft, third countries - Bad. Condemnation of the people who blew up these planes - Good. For no reason attacking other countries - Bad. Defend your sovereignty - Good. Killing your people with picks (Pol Pot, in order to save bullets) and chemical weapons (Hussein) - Bad.

                      The establishment of elective systems for changing power and the overthrow of dictators is Good.
                    9. Cynic
                      Cynic 6 September 2013 19: 07
                      0
                      Quote: Beck
                      about there are concepts of what is Good and what is Bad.

                      Is it really ...
                      How to combine
                      Quote: Beck
                      The seizure of power by military violence - Bad.

                      И
                      Quote: Beck
                      The establishment of elective systems for changing power and the overthrow of dictators is Good.

                      You have a perverse logic dear Beck , You claim knowledge in the last resort, forgetting that
                      Good intentions pave the way to hell

                      Understand in this world
                      The truth is that there is no truth!
            3. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 21: 18
              0
              Change the flag !!!
        7. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 21: 16
          0
          Bek, you are dashingly changing flags, you have become a Kazakh again! And in Soviet times, whose flag was it under? I think under Yusovsky .. And tell me who blew up the "twins" and who literally insured them for billions of dollars in a day? And an excuse for an agency and insurance loot! Dodgy Jewish mind !!! For me, all of you in the underworld, and all of you burn with a bright flame until the end of time! Amen !!!
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 20: 52
      0
      Yes, the valiant amers crushed the Germans so famously that there was nothing to say .... one point! But the question is, who raised Hitler? And whose plants were not bombed? And honestly, how tired you are with your nose, you’ll wait to tear it off with head ...
  • SASCHAmIXEEW
    SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 20: 43
    0
    But what side are there in saskas, why should oil and religion interfere or each barrel is plugged in? Don’t look for excuses, there’s no fools here!
  • SASCHAmIXEEW
    SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 20: 25
    0
    Vkomenty wrote about hackers hacking Americans, and about their conversation about the staged filming of a gas attack, allegedly Assad, and about the interviews with the militants, that their gas, out of ignorance, got out of control ... Where is the truth? Logically, why gas attack the territory that you take is pure stupidity ... Amer, that they are really stupid enough to come up with such a thing!? Probably ... Or they think that there is no grenade on their nut of another system ...
    1. Beck
      Beck 7 September 2013 09: 04
      0
      Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
      there are no fools here!


      I respect the opinions of others.

      Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
      Beck, but you’re famously changing flags, you’ve become a Kazakh again!


      I do not change. See for yourself why they change. I can’t fly from continent to continent in an hour.

      Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
      And with what side are there, why should oil interfere with religion or a plug every barrel?


      You don’t seem to be ... but you don’t know how to read. The whole context of my comments is either not understood or intentionally distorted.

      Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
      And this time they’ll definitely get the money for the rides, first of all Israel, as a sieger, well, there will be little


      Well, well, the fake warrior. Are you going to give out? Look, as if from exertion, the gas coming out of your pants would not be ripped apart. Syria is not the pretext to start the third world war.

      Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
      And to be honest, how tired you are with your nose, wait until they tear it off with your head ...


      Do not read. Walk past the breeze to the restroom, until you put it in your pants, maybe it’s better.

      Mine to you with a brush, to your shamelessness.
  • uhu189
    uhu189 2 September 2013 16: 01
    +1
    So, like the F-22, Americans do not sell to anyone, they are for internal use, but the F-35 planned to supply parts of the allies. To be honest, I somehow hardly believe that the F-22 was able to quietly transfer to Saudi Arabia or Qatar to air bases, they were also based in Alaska and Okinawa, well, on the continental part of the USA ... Although who knows, I won’t be surprised at anything. And with the tomahawks it may well turn out to be true ... I hope all the same there will be no hits ...
  • experienced
    experienced 2 September 2013 15: 52
    +3
    Quote: svp67
    The battle still goes on and to victory in it, oh how far.

    Moreover, the battle is on all fronts, so the Syrian hackers did not stand aside:
    Hackers from the Syrian Electronic Army (SEA) on Monday hacked into the official website of the US Marine Corps and posted a message on itwritten on behalf of the Syrian army, media reported.

    “The Syrian army should be your ally, and not the enemy,” the statement posted on the website says, RIA Novosti reports.

    In this case, the authors of the message accused US President Barack Obama of collaborating with the al-Qaeda international terrorist organization and called on US troops not to comply with command orders and not to conduct military operations against Syrian government forces.

    Marines.com is currently not available.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 2 September 2013 22: 40
      -1
      Quote: seasoned
      Marines.com is currently not available.

      It is quite accessible - just checked.
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  • Sandov
    Sandov 2 September 2013 18: 15
    +1
    In addition, it is important for Israel that the US re-position itself as a state with strategic influence in the Middle East. Asadu’s tough response will improve US regional authority and containment policies in the region compared with the traditional and non-traditional behavior of competitors.

    Haha ha. Why should it improve. It will be even worse. Most of it does not interfere. There was no need for amers two years ago to start this whole cartoon with "revolutions".
  • Cynic
    Cynic 2 September 2013 19: 36
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    material evidence presented or Americans themselves do not recognize

    It will be fakes, and confessions can be expected before the Carrotkin conspiracy!
    This is so much emotion, but essentially too good to be true.
    We wait .
  • AVV
    AVV 2 September 2013 21: 06
    0
    Ducks are flying !!!
    1. papik09
      papik09 27 October 2013 03: 22
      0
      .... and two geese .... drinks
  • 755962
    755962 2 September 2013 21: 20
    +6
    How does the US improve authority in the Middle East.

    Brzezinski: Russia may undermine US positions in the Middle East
    | CNN USA |


    If a conflict breaks out in Syria, it could benefit Russia. As former US national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski said on CNN, Moscow could take advantage of the situation to undermine Washington’s position in the region.


    http://inotv.rt.com/2013-09-02/Bzhezinskij-Rossiya-mozhet-podorvat-pozicii

    Source: Los Angeles Times
    WASHINGTON - Members of the congress, representing the entire political spectrum, reacted with deep skepticism on Sunday to President Obama's proposal to support strikes in Syria, which casts doubt on whether the vote will be successful.
    Read more: http://www.russiapost.su/archives/4029

    Syrian hackers from the Syrian Electronic Army attacked the US Marine Corps website, where recruits are being recruited. Hackers left such a message there:
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    1. Mart
      2 September 2013 12: 25
      +7
      Quote: NAV-STAR
      But “Syria’s air defense shot down F-22 and 4 US Tomahawk”, search http://stalin-ist.livejournal.com/545851.html


      This is what it is said in the first episode of "Mosaic". smile
      1. experienced
        experienced 2 September 2013 12: 38
        +4
        Quote: Mart
        This is what it is said in the first episode of "Mosaic".

        "Chukchi is not a reader ..." lol
      2. Kipish
        Kipish 2 September 2013 12: 42
        +6
        S-400 in Syria, this news)))))
        Well, even if there the S-300 fired and shot down the raptor, this is a huge plus
        And their golden fighter huge minus))
        1. Genry
          Genry 2 September 2013 13: 11
          +2
          I wonder where this Raptor fell?
          If shot down, then over their territory.
          Pack, what would be left, and bring for study.
          1. svp67
            svp67 2 September 2013 14: 08
            +6
            Quote: Genry
            If shot down, then over their territory.
            Pack, what would be left, and bring for study.

            If he was really "flunked", then there is already a "special forces competition" - for the prize "Who is faster ..."
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 14: 39
              +5
              Quote: svp67
              If he was really "flunked", then there is already a "special forces competition" - for the prize "Who is faster ..."

              That's for sure.
              I put on the Syrians .... laughing
              1. svp67
                svp67 2 September 2013 14: 53
                +2
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                I put on the Syrians ....
                And I, if not sad - at the "Chinese" and "Israelis" ... Well, you still need to look the truth in the eye ...
                1. Rider
                  Rider 2 September 2013 16: 20
                  +3
                  Quote: svp67
                  Well, you still have to face the truth ...


                  yes relax guys.
                  do not share the skin of a dead bear.


                  wait for more SPECIFIC information.

                  although I personally wanted it to be true.
            2. ksan
              ksan 2 September 2013 15: 27
              +3
              svp67 SU Today, 14:08 PM ↑ New

              Quote: Genry
              If shot down, then over their territory.
              Pack, what would be left, and bring for study.

              If he was really "flunked", then there is already a "special forces competition" - for the prize "Who is faster ..."
              This is exactly. I would risk assuming that if ITS (F-22) was shot down, and if S-300 or S-400, then it means Russian "specialists". For the "control" of the S-300 at least a year to study, for "service" for half a year, as people who served on them say. And about the Syrians in Russia over the past year in the "internet" not words. And if there are Russian "specialists", then with a high degree of probability there is also SpetsNaz. Maybe this is the "surprise" with which the Syrian leaders have been warning recently to "surprise" America. soldier
              1. Very old
                Very old 2 September 2013 17: 58
                0
                I won’t be surprised
              2. bif
                bif 2 September 2013 18: 11
                +3
                There are a number of indirect signs, which prove the opposite - In Syria S-300PMU2 and Syrian personnel. There was an article on this site a few days ago. the financial report of the plant (producing c-300) is published there, so it says that the funds arrived and the products are shipped ... (of course, the question WHERE?). Messages on the Internet slipped about frequent transfers of EMERCOM Russia-Syria aircraft (on board easily either specialists or Syrian entrants) ... but about the exercises in Astrakhai they wrote that firing at night ... and that these entrants consolidate the theory in practice))
              3. Sandov
                Sandov 3 September 2013 01: 56
                0
                Why advertise, they could cook little by little how to shoot down amers.
          2. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 14: 51
            +4
            Yes, there must have been 100 axes stuck in the place of its fall for secrecy.
            1. a52333
              a52333 2 September 2013 17: 55
              0
              Well, axes are unlikely, they need target designation.
              1. bif
                bif 2 September 2013 20: 20
                +2
                Quote: a52333
                Well, axes are unlikely, they need target designation.

                Your opinion is fundamentally wrong, I recommend at least reading it on Wiki.
                Tomahawks are pointed at pre-programmed coordinates, and during the flight it is only adjusted according to various BUILT-IN systems, i.e. 1 - No backlight needed.
                2. You can only shoot at STATIONARY goals, and 400kg of TNT are useless against bunkers and other fortifications.
        2. Ribwort
          Ribwort 2 September 2013 13: 21
          +4
          Quote: Kipish
          Well, even if there the S-300 fired and shot down the raptor, this is a huge plus

          In Serbia, Stealth, I remember, was shot down by an S-125 ... So, God forbid, this "lizard" S-300 can be dealt with somehow. In addition, the vaunted Stealth, according to some sources, is visible on outdated long-wave radars at a glance.
          1. Beck
            Beck 3 September 2013 10: 25
            +1
            Everything and everything is studied by Time.

            I think you should not rely on the S-300. It is well-known attitude and ability of Arabs to handle technology. And the electronic fillings of Russian and Western technology are different.

            If, however, the United States decides to strike, then their means of destruction will bypass Syrian defenses. Israeli air raids confirm this.

            And the tactics changed. Obama is no longer talking about the introduction of troops, but only about air strikes. This is the Lesson of Time on the example of Libya. The West does not want to risk the lives of its soldiers. US aviation will bomb Assad’s army infrastructure, command and control system, weapons depots, and heavy military equipment. And the already demoralized soldiers of Assad’s army will be finished off by rebel forces, as in Libya. It is not for nothing that the White House apparatus is already consulting with the leadership of the rebel forces on the subject of an air strike.
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 21: 51
              0
              Are the rebels who are cannibals? Yes, the White House allies "cannibalistic rebels" to match, one field is a berry! And the White House does not consult about eating babies !? Beck, what kind of tribe you will be, I hope not from the cannibal, although you stand up for madness, it means of them , of the cannibals !!!
        3. 755962
          755962 2 September 2013 21: 40
          +5
          What if ...
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 21: 57
            0
            Not original, we have one bureaucrat in front of an accident on the go, he sold the car! Wow! Interestingly, he was put in an accident or not, quiet silence ...
          2. papik09
            papik09 27 October 2013 03: 30
            0
            The idea is very interesting. laughing
  • Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 2 September 2013 12: 24
    -4
    Thanks for the review. In general, nothing new.
    1. Mart
      2 September 2013 12: 27
      29
      Quote: Kibalchish
      In general, nothing new.


      Better "nothing new" than a strike on Syria.
      1. Manager
        Manager 2 September 2013 12: 37
        +4
        Quote: Mart
        Better "nothing new" than a strike on Syria.


        Well now we have learned about the C300 and possibly from 400. So there is still something new.
      2. Arabist
        Arabist 2 September 2013 12: 38
        +7
        Oleg, thanks for the next piece of information. It would be nice if the downed plane turns out to be true. I think this will reduce their determination.
        1. Alexei
          Alexei 2 September 2013 17: 47
          +1
          Quote: Arabist
          It would be nice if the downed plane turns out to be true. I think this will reduce their determination.

          Yes, not only will determination be reduced, it can specifically tip the scales in the direction of Russian weapons. And these are the tenders won, this is a lot of work for our military industry, this is-- half the world in your pocket ... Well, if the plane is really shot down. repeat
      3. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 13: 13
        +7
        Quote: Mart
        Better "nothing new" than a strike on Syria.

        Normal, good review - there are a lot of facts that, after a simple analysis, make it possible to build a good picture of what is happening in Syria, and around it
      4. Natalia
        Natalia 2 September 2013 15: 17
        16
        And you think what it is like to the residents of Damascus, all the while waiting for a blow ... people go to work, down the street, or just go to bed at home, and you think that at any moment you will fill up with debris or kill with fragments on the street ... but whatever your children who went to school or kindergarten, how are your loved ones what will happen to them the next moment .... it's such a HORROR, it's just a realistic nightmare ..... how can one live like that.
        HORROR, I so sympathize with them (the Syrians) ...
        Living in anticipation of horror is horror ....

        PS As my dad says: "Death itself is not as terrible as waiting for it"
        (In the photo Damascus, a beautiful city especially at night, just like our Voskresensk ... and all sorts of bastards want to want to destroy it all.)
        1. GREAT RUSSIA
          GREAT RUSSIA 2 September 2013 21: 41
          +2
          Really beautiful. But these reptiles burn in hell am
    2. experienced
      experienced 2 September 2013 12: 37
      +6
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Thanks for the review. In general, nothing new.

      Bugaga wassat Thanks for the comment, nothing informative laughing
    3. mejik
      mejik 2 September 2013 14: 30
      +2
      As potential opponents say, know-good-news-good
  • Strashila
    Strashila 2 September 2013 12: 24
    +3
    In order to falsify the indicators for the poisoning of OM it is not necessary something abstruse and specific, knowledge for this is enough in the scope of the course of civil defense in Soviet times.
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 2 September 2013 12: 30
    +2
    Judging by the review, the States began to lose information wars, I think by the evening everything will clear up. But the offensive is very well organized. good
  • a52333
    a52333 2 September 2013 12: 35
    21
    This is nice:
    US military experts believe that Russian ships will put a cross on NATO air strikes.
  • svp67
    svp67 2 September 2013 12: 36
    +1
    John Kerry has a test tube
    that's a sin, but somehow you want this test tube to be "Chinese", so that it would crack at the right time and see if John survives or not ...
  • Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 2 September 2013 12: 38
    39
    As for Syria, today the following photo caught my eye: The sign says "I didn't go to the navy to fight for al-Qaeda in the Syrian civil war"

    1. NEMO
      NEMO 2 September 2013 13: 53
      26
      Quote: Landwarrior
      As for Syria, today I caught the eye here is such a photo

      This is a photo from the American portal Buzz Feed. The Americans themselves give an assessment of Obama’s actions; there is also such a demotivator:
      Bush: Why didn’t they give me the Nobel Peace Prize, I bombed people too!
      1. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 2 September 2013 19: 05
        +2
        here is another interesting picture from the same site!
        1. Landwarrior
          Landwarrior 2 September 2013 22: 44
          +1
          regsSSSR! Some drones will not do, fact! hi wink
      2. Landwarrior
        Landwarrior 2 September 2013 22: 43
        +1
        NEMO, thanks. Looked and others. Most of all I liked the photo where a soldier holds a sign with the words "Obama! I will not fight for your Al-Qaeda!"
        Well, even the Internet flipped through. On American resources, too, kypzh is not weak. In particular, on one cite the words of the American rescuer:
        help al-Qaeda take over Syria? Sorry, but do you really forget who brought down the World Trade Center 12 years ago!

        Translation is not literal, simplified a little, sorry hi
  • MG42
    MG42 2 September 2013 12: 38
    +6
    The most important thing is European integration. According to segodnya.ua, the Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada plans to consider 7 Euro-integration bills at plenary meetings on September 3-6, as reported on the website of the Party of Regions.

    Our steam train is flying forward in the geyrop stop. laughing
    Customize from Brussels = do not fit into the schedule, however, from phishington too ..
    Perhaps the culmination of the play Ukrainian integration begins this fall >>> we stock up on beer and chips, the end is close ..
    1. Val_y
      Val_y 2 September 2013 13: 20
      +8
      And there is nothing to be published over sick people (well, not sick people, but greedy, cowardly, mean, and most importantly DULL, since bureaucrats think that "if sho", then immediately smother, hatya Cyprus showed that how much you do not steal from your people, gayropeans will take it away anyway), so .....
      1. afire
        afire 2 September 2013 15: 07
        +6
        the fact is that after the Ukrainian business scum will crush the economy to zero, they will dump into the same geyrope, and the people will remain, blazing with hot hearts and pains of failures in foreign trade, at a broken trough. And again Ivan will begin to pull the "brotherly" people out of a deep jo (oh) pit on the hump. Only the conditions of independence will need to be discussed at once, and on that this agreement under a stone for centuries, no matter what else - for indulge in and enough.
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 2 September 2013 12: 43
    11
    We live happily, in a word.
    Though illusory, the information about the "downed" F-22 and Tomahawks sounds nice. smile
  • dmitreach
    dmitreach 2 September 2013 12: 44
    +2
    Well, if it's not a duck! Oh, if only it weren’t a duck! In the calmness of the GDP, something was implied ... But I figured that he would open the cards at the Summit ... Well, if that's true, about Crap_tor !!! Waiting for facts, debris.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 13: 27
      +3
      Quote: dmitreach
      Well, if it's not a duck!

      Such information pieces do not arise from scratch.
      1. dmitreach
        dmitreach 2 September 2013 13: 31
        0
        Yes, the fact of the matter is that there may be infoweed. the question is to whom it is beneficial ...
        ?
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 14: 33
          +3
          Quote: dmitreach
          Yes, the fact of the matter is that there may be infoweed. the question is to whom it is beneficial ...

          I don’t think - golem facts. The difference can only be in quantity and quality.
          1. dmitreach
            dmitreach 2 September 2013 16: 09
            0
            it was getting dark ... and not a single media outlet picked up the fried news.
            I don’t think - golem facts.

            what kind?
            The source of this information is the newspaper Post, published in the US state of Oklahoma.

            One user claims that he climbed to search for information about a newspaper with the same name and found out that there is no such newspaper (there is one with the same name but from Ohio) ...
            http://politikus.ru/events/6105-siriycy-sbili-amerikanskiy-samolet-f-22-i-4-rake
            ty-tomagavk.html
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      2. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 14: 53
        0
        Shot f16, for example, or a drone, the sources were painfully unreliable, and they didn’t make sense to risk f22 like that.
        1. dmitreach
          dmitreach 2 September 2013 16: 16
          0
          In principle, it is strange with the help of Crap_tor to look for weaknesses in enemy air defense ...
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 22: 05
            0
            On new air defense (s-300), new airplanes ... Everything is logical!
  • poquello
    poquello 2 September 2013 12: 48
    14
    "Military expert John Blue Read told the newspaper that the downed F-22 confirms that Syria has upgraded S-300 or even S-400 defense systems."
    Since the raptor is s-600, no, it doesn’t take anything else, it's a raptor.
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 2 September 2013 12: 49
    31
    "And around the dead with braids stand, sarin and silence" wassat
    In general - The Elusive Avengers.
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 2 September 2013 14: 05
      22
      Oh, he reminds me of someone, he remembered the guy who charged water on our TV, and in the common people, he hung noodles on his ears.
    2. Sirocco
      Sirocco 2 September 2013 14: 10
      +3
      All this would be funny when it were not so sad. There is a continuation of this topic in Jumble about noodles.
    3. Tu-214R
      Tu-214R 2 September 2013 18: 56
      +8
      It reminded you more than one laughing
    4. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 22: 08
      0
      You won’t be lost with our humorous guys ... And I want to completely go nuts for this !!!
  • tomas.09
    tomas.09 2 September 2013 12: 54
    +2
    If you take the initial letters of his name, you get JFK.
    1. Genry
      Genry 2 September 2013 13: 17
      +4
      And if you take the FSA (SSA - Syrian Free Army), it turns out: Fucking States of America (fucked states of America).
      1. Draz
        Draz 2 September 2013 20: 13
        +1
        Let me correct you repeat

        The word Fuck has many meanings, and in this case it is more like Rowing, fucking. hi
      2. tomas.09
        tomas.09 2 September 2013 22: 07
        +1
        I meant that: Jonh F. Kennedy
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 September 2013 12: 54
    +2
    Yes. Subject Barack to Zad.tsu! How will he now get out of this situation? And whether through or ... something will stop him (or someone)!
  • olviko
    olviko 2 September 2013 12: 58
    16
    "You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried all the other options."
    Winston Churchill
    It is immediately obvious that old Winy knew the Yankees as flaky.
    1. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 2 September 2013 17: 28
      0
      Well, an apple from an apple tree does not fall far.
  • maestro123
    maestro123 2 September 2013 13: 03
    +1
    At the time of a possible attack by the "democrats", it is possible to move the government and the ministry of defense of Syria to our ships in Tartus and deploy a command center there. wink
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 2 September 2013 14: 26
      23
      Quote: maestro123
      At the time of a possible attack by the "democrats", it is possible to move the government and the ministry of defense of Syria to our ships in Tartus and deploy a command center there.


      Moreover, you can stand next to American ships, and also open fire with the CD at targets in Syria. True, since we have different concepts of "terrorists" with the United States, the targets of our ships could be the positions of the militants. From all sides - beauty.
      On the one hand - "we are fighting terrorism together with our overseas partners" - which is good from the point of view of geopolitics;
      On the other hand, we equalize the chances of the parties, defending our interests.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 14: 41
        +9
        Quote: Stiletto
        Moreover, one can become close to American ships, and also open fire on targets in Syria.

        ++++++ !!!!!
      2. datur
        datur 2 September 2013 16: 47
        +2
        But this is a thought !!! good wink
      3. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 22: 15
        0
        1000 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  • avant-garde
    avant-garde 2 September 2013 13: 05
    +6
    What the hell is still testing air defense systems ??? Et Th for nonsense in general on what basis do these dodges scam their missiles ??? am, maybe we should check Washington's air defense system and provide a friendly service to identify weaknesses in their system, and if the Americans died, then they could die more during real hostilities.
  • Russ69
    Russ69 2 September 2013 13: 07
    0
    Unnamed informants report that the Raptor was probably shot down by Syrian missiles (near the Syrian border). Military expert John Blue Reed told the newspaper that a downed F-22 confirms:

    I would like it to be true, but ........
    In addition, according to the Los Angeles Times, Syrian defense forces shot down four Tomahawk missiles. Some unnamed sources from Washington indicate that they were shot down with the help of “Shell” batteries.

    You can still believe in it, but again, someone had to detect missile launches.
    The Russian navy near the coast of Syria is monitoring airspace

    A reasonable decision would be ...
    With the Su-35 fighters, China will not be supplied with on-board electronic technology,

    So basically ok. There is still an engine, but so far the Chinese have no technology in this regard, but this is important ...
    1. ksan
      ksan 2 September 2013 16: 13
      0
      rus69 SU Today, 13:07 So basically it’s normal. There is still an engine, but so far the Chinese have no technology in this regard, but this is important ...
      And they buy AL-31 in hundreds, even bet on their "clones". They and the engines "copied" but "unsuccessful clones" in comparison with the original turned out repeat
    2. Alexei
      Alexei 2 September 2013 18: 01
      0
      Quote: Russ69

      So basically ok. There is still an engine, but the Chinese have so far the technology in this regard is not so hot, but this is important

      Yes, finally, you can take it and sell it to them empty ... Without an engine and without electronics, there are so many there — they’ll come up with something.
  • aviator_IAS
    aviator_IAS 2 September 2013 13: 09
    +7
    Quote: NAV-STAR
    But “Syria’s air defense shot down F-22 and 4 US Tomahawk”, search http://stalin-ist.livejournal.com/545851.html
    If it turns out to be true, then soon there will be tin.


    It would be nice, but unlikely. If amers really tried to "probe" the air defense of Syria, then they would definitely use a bunch of equipment. Scouts, AWACS, electronic warfare, etc. etc. It is difficult to hide such an engine. And in terms of information warfare "news" is extremely useful. smile It must be brought to every American pilot. So that at the mere mention of Syrian air defense they crap for themselves.
    1. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 2 September 2013 13: 48
      0
      Even if the Raptor crashed without assistance, it’s still not bad. One aggressor less.
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 6 September 2013 22: 18
      0
      And who will report to you about this dvizhnyak?
  • Zhenya
    Zhenya 2 September 2013 13: 11
    13

    Syria 1.09 Summary
  • Cormorants
    Cormorants 2 September 2013 13: 12
    +3
    S-300 +1, well done. Of course, proof is needed, but it seems to me that it was the Syrians. Of course, the Syrian system will not give complete protection from the Yankees and their bedding, but the nerves will tremble and give food for thought "is it worth it to climb."
    Syria hold on, we are with you.
  • Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 2 September 2013 13: 17
    +4
    Kind! Hmm, the Americans did not expect that everything will work out like that! Not so that the enterprise turns out to be the only one to get into the mess!) Turn off your destroyers, take away the AUGs and go to your home to engage in democracy!
  • ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 2 September 2013 13: 18
    +3
    In Europe, only the Germans in their right mind fought.
    1. svp67
      svp67 2 September 2013 13: 20
      +2
      Quote: ivshubarin
      In Europe, only the Germans in their right mind fought.
      Yes, thank God there are those who have admonished them, and if necessary, they will also enlighten them, especially May 9 every year ...
      1. experienced
        experienced 2 September 2013 13: 23
        +9
        Quote: svp67
        especially May 9th every year ...

        In hotels of Turkey ... wassat For German tourists it is a "black" day, they throw in the pools, "Hitler Kaput" is forced to shout ... laughing
  • Russ69
    Russ69 2 September 2013 13: 24
    0
    How Russia will help Syria. The Russian group of the Navy near the coast of Syria is monitoring airspace, Politikus.ru writes.
    The Russian military can transmit the received information to the Syrian air defense calculations. This will ensure the timely response of the Syrian defense to any attempts at military aggression by the United States and its allies.

    In addition to the news:
    “The intensification of actions to open and cover the situation in the marine areas adjacent to the Syrian coast will occur due to a slight increase in the number of Russian reconnaissance ships in the Mediterranean,” the source said, ITAR-TASS reports. "In particular, on Sunday, the reconnaissance ship of the Black Sea Fleet "Azov" went to the coast of Syria,
  • ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 2 September 2013 13: 26
    +5
    (How can the United States improve credibility in the Middle East.) If the RAPTOR is shot down, then to improve credibility it is better to sit on the spot and get used to its current position in the world.
  • Garrin
    Garrin 2 September 2013 13: 28
    +4
    The fight against corruption is gaining momentum in China. Following Bo Xilai, one of the most senior functionaries of the Celestial Empire may be in the dock

    Yes, it looks like Serdyukov doesn't have such a "roof"
  • Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 2 September 2013 13: 29
    +1
    The course of the military operation is planned to be coordinated with the allies, primarily with France.

    It seems that there are no others left!
    Still do not know, add on our own. The United States "knows for sure," because they themselves staged everything.

    Well, amers have had experience with such things since September 2001!
  • Majordok
    Majordok 2 September 2013 13: 31
    +4
    US military experts believe that Russian ships will put an end to NATO’s air strike. God forbid!
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 2 September 2013 20: 08
      +3
      Quote: MajorDok
      Russian ships will put a cross on NATO air strike

      It is interesting there besides our ships, our simple container ships do not sail there?
      1. tomas.09
        tomas.09 2 September 2013 22: 15
        +2
        Swims g .... ships go !!!!
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 22: 21
          +2
          It will be correct so "The city floats ... but tourists, and the ships go" laughing
          1. tomas.09
            tomas.09 2 September 2013 22: 41
            0
            Let it be so!!!
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 3 September 2013 18: 16
          0
          Quote: tomas.09
          ... ships go !!!!

          Vessels swim !!!
          Quote: Cynic
          ... our simple container ships do not sail there?

          A simple peaceful civilian container ship loaded with standard containers! Like in the photo above.
          A ship for such containers is not needed! The ship is just right!
  • KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 2 September 2013 13: 32
    +3
    I knew that Assad, the Syrian army and headquarters, and not the chemist, would personally be the target. weapons.
    The US wants to kill people without trial. Nobel in the trash must be sent.

    Putin should have phrased a little differently: “Let Obama think about future victims ... worldwide"
    This would hint transparently at Russia's determination to set aside its interests.
  • individual
    individual 2 September 2013 13: 41
    +4
    The USA is losing authority and hegemonic position.
    Fury may not be predictable.
    The Nobel laureate of World Obama will become a war image. am
  • Zheka Varangian
    Zheka Varangian 2 September 2013 13: 47
    +6
    The Germans pleased with their refusal goodbut France for amers are ready to break the ass. negative
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 2 September 2013 17: 18
      +4
      Quote: Zheka Varangian
      but France for amers are ready to break the ass.

      I'd like to hope that tear.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 18: 47
        +4
        Quote: Garrin
        I'd like to hope that tear.

        To the fascist cross ... laughing
        1. Rider
          Rider 2 September 2013 20: 40
          +2
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          To the fascist cross ..



          Ltd !

          it’s even harder than the British flag.

          laughing
    2. GREAT RUSSIA
      GREAT RUSSIA 2 September 2013 21: 44
      0
      It’s interesting that this asshole remained with them, because they have a clearly colored president, probably they were punished there, so I doubt that they have anything left from this place.
  • spd2001
    spd2001 2 September 2013 13: 52
    +3
    The cannibals are waiting. The armed opposition planned to launch an attack on Damascus immediately after the US attack on Syria. This is reported by the Arab media, reports
    "Knife, fork, spoon" is already ready, but what is he pulling, no more strength, you want to eat? Who benefits from the attack with chemical weapons ?! (no need to answer, everything is on the surface).
    Oriental subtleties: measures without a mandate. Foreign Ministers of the League of Arab States, gathered for a meeting in Cairo, called on the UN and the world community to take measures against the Syrian government, which, according to the Foreign Ministers of the Arab League, used chemical weapons against civilians
    And here the organizers of the "chemical attack" pulled themselves up. They also will not wait for the decision of the great overseas country. Already, the tooth is crumbling (C)
    The attack on the Suez Canal did not take place. Egyptian army thwarts attempted terrorist attack on Suez Canal
    This is a test of the battle (or its attempt) of the consistency of the statements of Egypt on the prohibition of the US fleet in the Suez Canal to attack Syria. Further more...
  • Per se.
    Per se. 2 September 2013 13: 56
    +4
    Well, right, like in Krylov’s fable.
    "How dare you, insolent, with an unclean snout
    Here's a clean muddy drink
    My
    With sand and silt?
    For insolence
    I'll rip your head off. ", This is a hit-and-miss with the USA.
    "Urine! I'm tired of listening
    Leisure to me to sort your fault, puppy!
    You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat. ", And this is the whole essence of American" morality ".
    It would be nice to receive, warriors, in their shy, wolf face.
    1. KGDU10
      KGDU10 6 September 2013 11: 33
      0
      And if we recreate the new version of the fable directly from the original:
      In a strong always powerless to blame.
      In the history we hear the darkness of examples
      But we don’t write stories
      But about how in the States they say ....

      Who will continue? It might be an interesting version!
  • Andrey from Tver
    Andrey from Tver 2 September 2013 14: 00
    0
    Quote: Landwarrior
    "I didn't go to the navy to fight for al Qaeda in the Syrian civil war."

    Did the USA ever wage fair wars? It can be seen, a strong bench press, and immediately justice leaped.
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  • Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 2 September 2013 14: 15
    +2
    Bush senior buried Mandela, They also can not read laughing
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 2 September 2013 16: 59
      +3
      Quote: Yoon Klob
      Bush senior buried Mandela

      Well, then he (Mandela) will live for a long time. To evil Bush and Co.
    2. a52333
      a52333 2 September 2013 20: 28
      +2
      He knows how to soak:
      “The idea that the United States is preparing to attack Iran is simply ridiculous. I can add one thing to this: we are considering any possible options ”(Brussels, February 22, February 2005 of the year).

      “I believe we must immediately allow the calves to cross our border” (Ottawa, November 30, November 2004).

      “At this work you have a full box every day; you don’t have time to sit or sit alone around the Oval Office, as if asking different portraits: “How is my place in history?” (Washington, March 16, March 2005).
      Harvard graduate, this is not cockroaches to bite your ass!
      1. a52333
        a52333 2 September 2013 23: 46
        +2
        A bit more
        “I would invade Iraq, even if it did not exist.”

        - I recently met with the Russian president in Slovakia. Or in Slovenia - I do not remember what this country is exactly called.

        - Too many good doctors are out of work. Too many good obstetricians and gynecologists cannot make love to women all over the country. ' - Poplar Bluff, Missouri, September 6, 2004
        -Secondly, our tactics - as you know, we have no relations with Iran. Well, that is, since the end of the seventies we have not had any contacts with them, and we totally sanctioned them. In other words, there are no more sanctions - we cannot - in general, we have run out of sanctions. ' - Annandale, Virginia, August 9, 2004
  • knn54
    knn54 2 September 2013 14: 16
    +4
    -How Russia will help Syria.
    The Russian Federation has a mass of options. But the Yankees and their sixes have TWO options - to fight or NOT to fight. And with any of them, the west is in w ... e.

    - John Kerry got a test tube.
    Personally tried to instill in a nose? In Vietnam and Iraq, Assad also used "chemistry" ???
    - Hollande can give the order.
    Soon France will have itself.
    -How does the US improve credibility in the Middle East.
    From the point of view of the Yankees - EVERYONE should recognize the teachings of the Wahhab ...
    -The most important thing is European integration.
    "The young lady lay down and ask."
  • tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 14: 18
    +1
    Quote: knn54

    - John Kerry got a test tube.
    .


    That Cherninky is a little white, they like to shake with their piper tubes.
  • TURAR
    TURAR 2 September 2013 14: 30
    +8
    How much is fake?
    ----------------------------->
    Syria shot down the first US plane and missiles

    On September 1, a military expert confirmed in an interview with Al Manar TV that the reason for President Obama's delay in striking Syria was not because he was supposedly waiting for Congress. The reason is that on August 31, Syria destroyed an American aircraft as well as four Tomahawk missiles.

    A US military plane crashed near the Syrian-Jordanian border. Missiles fell into the sea.

    The news about the F-31 Raptor downed on August 22 was reported by the American newspaper "Los Angeles Times". The newspaper also reported that on August 30, Syrian air defense shot down 4 American Tomahawk missiles. They were shot down by the Russian Pantsir-1 anti-missile system. These are Russian anti-aircraft missiles that destroyed American missiles. Sources of the newspaper believe that the Pentagon fired four missiles in order, according to the Los Angeles Times, "to feel the Syrian pulse."

    According to the newspaper, the loss of a modern F-22 aircraft in northern Jordan, where five F-22s are located, is the main reason for the delay in aggression against Syria.

    The Oklahoma Post reported, citing US military sources, that an F-22 Raptor crashed north of Jordan.
    Military expert John Blue Reed told the newspaper that Syria has not just S-300s, but modernized S-300s. He does not exclude that this is the S-400.

    What they say on the Syrian streets ...

    Residents of the Syrian city of Tartus confirmed that they heard 30 on August afternoon, the roar of three aircraft. One aircraft was MiG-23 others - MiG-29, which headed towards the American aircraft, seen near the territorial Syrian waters.

    US aircraft were about 20 km from the coastal border. Any of them could suddenly penetrate into the airspace of Syria. But when the Syrian planes began to approach them, the Americans turned and went towards the sea.

    1 of September repeated the same episode at 10 of the morning.

    “Our sky is only for us, transmit the Syrians. “Our sky is closed to enemies!”

    Please remember the time - September 1, ten in the morning, Syrian time. American planes are looking for a gap in the Syrian air defense system and ... do not find.
    1. Hitrovan07
      Hitrovan07 2 September 2013 17: 26
      +2
      The interesting thing is that no rebuttal by the American warriors is yet to be seen.
  • King
    King 2 September 2013 14: 34
    +4
    In my opinion, what is happening in the world is a policy of "lowering" the United States. the last 10 years they now and then plunge into somewhere deeper and deeper. it remains only to guess whose this plan.
  • Sevastopol
    Sevastopol 2 September 2013 14: 42
    +2
    The most important thing is European integration

    Rather, pseudo-integration. Show for Ukrainian loshki who still believe that "the Germans will come and build everything, we will drink German beer."

    And this "integration" is designed only to distract the people with an imaginary European carrot, at a time when pensions and salaries of ordinary people are at the level of North African countries, social guarantees are absent, at a time when the next rise in prices for essential goods is coming. These bills will not change anything at all.

    The next "protocols of intent and friendship", another assurance that Ukraine, upon fulfilling a number of impracticable conditions, will have the opportunity (after an indefinite period of time) to consider the issue of joining the EU.

    The ruling power will never gain so many votes. She just threw people. But what will happen next, who will replace her (perhaps Bandera) ... There’s generally a schiz: a German boxer (Klitschko), a fascist (Tyagnibok) or a representative of the scam clan sponsored by the West (Yatsenyuk). Merry country ... Nowhere more fun ...
  • Sevastopol
    Sevastopol 2 September 2013 14: 54
    +6
    The salary of 18,9% of employees (1,8 million) amounted to 1147-1500 UAH. ($ 187)

    50% of the population of Ukraine receives less than 2500 UAH for their work. (less than $ 312) per month.

    Data from the State Statistics Service of Ukraine 2013. And this is in the 21st century. Hey, take us to the EU. Twice.
  • NEMO
    NEMO 2 September 2013 15: 06
    +8
    Thanks to the author for the full coverage of the events in Mosaic, especially the episode amused:
    Bush Senior buried Mandela.

    Well, since the "Texas Cowboy" reminded of himself, then the smoking-room is still alive. On this occasion, I remembered the "bearded" anecdote, which has not lost its relevance today:
    - What is fatal to the vaunted American "democracy"? - journalists once asked George W. Bush.
    “Three things are deadly dangerous for our American democracy,” he answered.
    - Which ones? - the journalists asked.
    “Holy water, Silver Bullet and Aspen stake are deadly dangerous for American democracy,” Bush answered and wondered if he had blurted out something unnecessary.

    Maybe we from Russia to Syria to deliver the above materials on an industrial scale, thank God there is enough of this good smile
  • Roman_Romanich
    Roman_Romanich 2 September 2013 15: 19
    +2
    Quote: tilovaykrisa
    Shot f16, for example, or a drone, the sources were painfully unreliable, and they didn’t make sense to risk f22 like that.

    Well, on the other hand, there was such a point, to check the "invisibility" of the f-22 on Russian radars, but about the f-15 they already know very well that the Pantsiri and Buki, they will just blow them apart right away ..
  • holding
    holding 2 September 2013 15: 28
    +2
    I was especially pleased about the fallen "raptor" and the knocked-down tomahawks, although the source of the information is unclear. Well, in general, if this happened in fact, it is strong.
    1. tomas.09
      tomas.09 2 September 2013 22: 46
      0
      The fallen Raptor, if it's true, will be blamed on the accident rate and "axes" too "
  • Muadipus
    Muadipus 2 September 2013 15: 28
    0
    US military experts believe that Russian ships will put a cross on NATO air strikes.
    I remembered an episode from the cartoon "The Little Horse-Gobunyok" where the sinister was knitting a loop - "I'm twisting a rope, I'm twisting a string, - Strong hemp, - On a bad head")))
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 2 September 2013 15: 30
    15
    Another version of the use of chemical weapons in Syria has appeared in the media. An American publication by former US Department of State and Intelligence Veterans Today published an article entitled "United States contractors confirm chemical attack on Syria"
    link
    The chemical weapons that were used in Syria were transported from Georgia through the territory of Turkey with the assistance of US intelligence agencies. In the suburbs of Tbilisi in the village of Alekseyevka, there is the Central Referral Laboratory for Public Health (CPHRL) of the United States. The video just captured this weapon



    From the editorial office of GRUZIFNORM: yesterday, on August 29, 2013, the editor-in-chief of GRUZINFORM Arno Khidirbegishvili writes in his publication the following: “Against the backdrop of a new war in Syria, Saakashvili is able to declare a state of emergency and call for assistance from the NATO Security Assistance Force (ISAF) or UN peacekeeping contingent “in order to protect the constitutional order and prevent a civil war in Georgia, to protect strategic facilities - oil and gas pipelines, roads, bridges, airports and other important for NATO in the light of the Middle East s processes, infrastructure, and the referral of the Central Public Health Laboratory (CPHRL) United States about Tbilisi - in the village of Alekseyevka, vault virus strains that can be used to create biological weapons in Syria. "
  • vitamin ky
    vitamin ky 2 September 2013 15: 35
    +2
    [/ Quote]

    Better "nothing new" than a strike on Syria. [/ Quote]

    all right catch plus wink -but I would like to — expand the reaction to these news from other countries and not from leaders and all sorts of French presidents — but from simple people — from hard workers — led-postmen and other others hi what the warriors themselves think (preferably average and rank-and-file composition - oh dreams dreams what ) -there in Spain -Portugal and other countries -Our views of our military -It’s more interesting to read than just dry lines about a frenzied French poet
  • morpogr
    morpogr 2 September 2013 15: 40
    +3
    An inscription asks under the photo from Keri: I'm flying in terror on the wings of the night, I'm a chewing gum stuck to your sole, a hole in your wisdom tooth, etc. And if I’m happy about 22 and the tomahawks.