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The truth about 11 September will blow up America

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The official version is the official lie!


In late August, a US Army sergeant, Donald Baswell, was disciplined "for using a government-owned email address to send messages hostile to the United States." A veteran of the Iraq campaign had the imprudence to doubt the official version of the 11 events of September 2001. He, in particular, wrote to the editors of the information resource 911truth.org: “It is worth weighing all the circumstances, and it will become clear that several Arabs sitting in caves with mobile phones could not organize it.” Literally, the name of the site, which became fatal for Donald, translates as "September 11 - true."


New Pearl Harbor

Americans believe their government. But not all. The dissidents of America have more than enough reason to doubt that they are always told the truth. The assassination of President Kennedy is still a mystery with many unknowns. Counting votes in the last presidential election is shrouding the fog ... And the biggest American catastrophe is Pearl Harbor? Then, in December 41, the Japanese seemed to be invited to attack the main US naval base. It was necessary to get a reason for war, regardless of the number of their own victims. The similar tragedy of 11 of September of 2001 of the year of the year also caused a lot of questions.

Four passenger Boeing aircraft were hijacked by 19 by Arab terrorists armed with cardboard cutting knives for an hour. The suicide pilots took control of the aircraft and changed course to New York and Washington. Two "Boeing" were sent to the twin towers of the World Trade Center. In the skyscrapers began a fire, which caused their complete destruction. The third Boeing crashed into the Pentagon. Passengers of the fourth aircraft came to grips with hijackers, which led to the fall of the aircraft in the state of Pennsylvania. It was an attack on America, planned by Osama bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaida, an international terrorist organization consisting mainly of Arabs.

This is the generally accepted version of events. She finally took shape within a few days after the disaster, becoming official.

Maybe it was a conspiracy of the security forces against the president?

“Well, is it just me or someone else who realized that the WTC was not destroyed by the attacks of the planes? - already 11 September wrote one of the witnesses. - For me personally, this is the most frightening moment of this morning ... The building suddenly crumbles into dust, as if a smooth wave ran from top to bottom through all the floors. Fragments mostly fall inside. All structural elements are destroyed sequentially, so that there is no remaining skeleton. The destruction is uniform, symmetrical and absolute. It all looks like a demolition. It does not require a lot of explosives, but it must be placed in the right places (in direct contact with the structural elements) and undermined in a synchronized sequence "...

The truth about 11 September will blow up America


Over the years 5 around 11 September formed a whole layer of conspiracy theories. They are designed in great detail, with the layout by the minute. There is, say, a version of Operation Pearl - intercepting Boeings with passengers and using radio-controlled military aircraft for ramming twin towers. Later, during the operation, passengers and civilian planes were destroyed, and the buildings were blown up ... All this was not invented by some fanatical Islamic or cunning European anti-Americanists, but laid out brick by US citizens themselves. They just do not trust their government and tend not only to look at the scene, but to look behind the scenes.

Conspiracy theories are presented on dozens of sites on the Internet. Alas, as a rule, they are based on one stereotype. On a number of obvious inconsistencies, which themselves line up in a logical chain, superimposed indirect evidence - the more, the better, - well, and then the author gives vent to fantasies. They are easy to refute if someone wants to do it. It's easier to ignore them.

Thierry Meyssan's book "Monstrous Fraud" for some reason decided to refute. The Frenchman concentrated on the attack on the Pentagon, and incidentally concluded that the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington were carried out by a group that is at the very top of the US military and political elite. September 11 intimidated George W. Bush, delivered ultimatums, forcing the president to change the nature of foreign policy. Bush allegedly accepted the ultimatum - and, firstly, he survived, and secondly, at the head of his country.

Among the proofs of Meyssan is the story of the president himself that he was watching video footage of the collision of the plane with the WTC skyscraper when the secretary broke in with the words: “The second plane crashed into the tower! An attack was made on America! ”However, there could be no such video preview. The shots that captured the first collision were discovered 13 hours after the events, when the Gamma agency announced the filming of the Naudet brothers. Meyssan doesn’t even admit the possibility that Bush Junior got confused about something, but he concludes: the president was shown a secret survey of special services ... It fits into the concept of intimidation. Meyssan also found out that the scheme for protecting the White House from the assault by a detachment of the landing force was activated on that day, and not from the crash of the plane or the bombardment. Meanwhile, on the military bases of the evacuated president, they were transported along the runways in an armored car, motivating this with protection from snipers.

In general, in response to the “monstrous fraud”, two French journalists associated with the security services wrote a book called “Monstrous Lies”. They denounced the sources of Meyssan as unreliable and summed up: “There is nothing, absolutely nothing. Impressions, fantasies, fabrications.

But in the tragedy of 9 / 11 there are a lot of mysterious and at the same time completely objective circumstances, which for 5 years have remained without rational explanations. Parallel versions would appear less if all the ends converged. But the ends do not meet.

Twin towers collapsed in a controlled manner.

The twins were designed to withstand a collision with a Boeing-707. In terms of mass, size and speed, this aircraft is similar to Boeing-767, which crashed into the WTC skyscrapers. And both collapsed, collapsed completely, turning into heaps of garbage and clouds of dust - even without the remnants of vertical steel columns. They "developed".

The plane hit the 8.45 at right angles to the North Tower, and most of the jet fuel got inside, causing a massive fire. In 9.03, a blow was struck at the South, but the collision occurred at an acute angle, and a relatively small part of the fuel hit the tower (perhaps one third). The rest burned up in huge balls of fire that burst out of the building. The wreckage of the aircraft passed through its corner and should not have hurt the bearing structures of the South Tower located in the center. But she collapsed first - on 9.59, 56 minutes after the collision. North collapsed in 10: 29, in 1 an hour and 44 minutes.

The official explanation for the collapse - burning fuel melted steel columns. But one of critics of this theory, J. McMichael, writes: “To heat steel is the same as pouring syrup onto a plate: the syrup will not stand upright. Heat moves to colder sections of the steel structure, and the parts you are trying to heat are cooled. And I have to believe that the fire was burning, getting hotter, until it reached the melting point - 1538 ° C. And that all 200 thousand tons of steel have warmed up to her from the fuel from the fuel tanks of one aircraft. ” The maximum temperature for unprotected steel structures during similar fires reached 360 ° C, which is very far from 550 ° C, the first critical threshold at which changes occur in the structure of the steel.

Another problem with the official version is that both skyscrapers settled smoothly and smoothly. If the collapse of the South tower began from the 60-th floor, the upper third would hang for moments, supported only by the central columns. However, 30 floors simply disappeared, instead of falling to a nearby block in a block of concrete and steel. Both towers collapsed completely symmetrical, the floors neatly “collapsed”, just as happens in cases of controlled demolition of a high-rise.

And actually with the speed of free fall. An object falling from the 398-meter height of the World Trade Center will need 9,01 seconds to reach the ground. Or a little longer, considering the air resistance. The twins collapsed in 10 - 15 seconds, which is close to free fall speed. What could be more objective than the laws of physics?

The company, whose employees first appeared on the site of the fall of the World Trade Center, is the same one that demolished the ruins of the federal building in Oklahoma City, which was detonated on 19 on April 1995. Its name is "Controlled Destruction." Thousands of tons of bent steel were soon sold by scrap metal dealers to China and Korea.

Calls from hijacked aircraft - falsification

In the four "Boeing" were 256 people. In total, 13 calls were made from the sides. In the reports on the investigation of events there is a detailed description of the Arab hijackers, a minute-by-minute description of their actions. In the absence of the surviving passengers, their “testimony” became records of telephone conversations, in which the official version largely rests. In the course of the investigation, the tragedies were reproduced before their relatives, who were forbidden to transmit the content of conversations in the interests of the investigation. However, there was a leak in the press, and Newsweek magazine told what the doomed were talking about ...

Among the callers was the spouse of US Under Secretary of Justice Ted Olson, lawyer Barbara Olson. She twice called him from the plane, which the terrorists used to attack the Pentagon. Only passenger Melissa Bowie managed to get in touch with ground services - she got through to the dispatcher. The call lasted 4 minutes 2 seconds and broke off halfway through the phrase.

Following Newsweek, a lot of publications quoted the conversation. The last words of the flight attendant just before the plane turned into a fireball after a collision with a skyscraper: "God, God ... I see buildings ... Water." Or a very simple phrase: “Hi, mom, this is Mark Bingham” ...

Here it is strange not even the fact that the person is presented to the mother by the name and surname, but that he was able to reach him at all. At the beginning of the decade, the probability of successful connection from a cell phone from a jet airliner flying at normal cruising speed and altitude was approximately 1 to 100. The probability of two connections is 1 to 10000. The probability of thirteen is negligible.

As the plane drops, it seems to be easier to get through from the mobile. However, other factors are beginning to act. At a lower altitude, a jet leaves one cell for 1-8 seconds. During this time, the phone manages to establish contact with it, however, it is already in the zone of another cell ...

This data was confirmed experimentally thanks to the professor at two universities A. Dyudni. He approached the study in a scientific way. I assembled a group of researchers and three times during 2003 of the year I flew on leased planes to check how the communication was carried out from different phones (in the third experiment, say, five handsets were used - three Motorola (i95cl, StarTac, Timeport 8767), as well as “Audiovox-8300” and “Nokia-6310i.” Dyudney called his study “The Achilles Project” - clearly meaning that the invincible ancient Greek hero had one weak spot.

Only in 2004-2005, a number of companies engaged in the development of equipment to ensure sustainable mobile communications in airliners - "Boeing" and "Airbus".

The most "slippery" questions

The US intelligence had at least 12 intelligence reports on the possible use of airliners as weapons. It was known that the buildings would attack, and the WTC would be the first thing that came to mind. The information came in from 1994 to August 2001, when it became known about the plan of Osama bin Laden to send a plane to the US embassy in Nairobi, the Kenyan capital. Why was nothing done?

What kind of fire arose in the White House just between the strikes of the first and second aircraft? The shots with the fire went on the air ABC, and then the information about it completely disappeared. Why? And what is the likelihood that such a state of emergency at the presidential residence could have occurred precisely in this time period?

The hijackers did aerobatic training, but the instructors considered them to be incapable of operating even light single-engine aircraft. About one of the terrorist pilots in the flight school there was a record: "he cannot fly on his own." But the Arabs took control, obtained the necessary knowledge and skills from training courses and textbooks, skillfully flew to their goals and clearly hit them. Why could they do this? The wingspan of the Boeing-767-300 is 47 meters, and the width of the tower is 63. The difference is not difficult to calculate - just 15 meters. Just snipers, not kamikazes! These aces acted with such inhuman accuracy, as if they were led by a radio beacon. In the case of the Boeing-757-200, which hit the Pentagon, the arithmetic is as follows: the height of the building is 24 meters, and the height of the aircraft itself is more than 13. And this colossus comes on a ram strictly horizontally, creeping over the ground within the city limits, and hits the building of the US military exactly at the height between the first and second floors.

At the same time, the damage to the Pentagon is not serious enough to be the result of a collision with a 115-ton aircraft flying at a speed of 400 to 700 kilometers per hour. Not only were there no debris on the site in front of the wall, but there were traces of burning fuel from the tanks of the aircraft on the grass. The surviving photo shows no wings - only a neat hole in the wall. Why? The explosion fell precisely on the sector of the Pentagon, which was being repaired. The Anti-Terrorism Directorate has already been evicted from there, the Marine Command Center fleet not yet universed. Among the 125 dead at the Pentagon, there is only one general, but mostly civilian specialists.

Fragments of a liner fallen in Pennsylvania were found 8 miles from the crash site, and local residents reported burning debris falling from the sky. How could this be if the fourth Boeing died, falling to the ground?

Finally, the 11 of September also saw a military coup in Chile - 28 years before the American tragedy. And for 11 years before her, and also 11 of September, George Bush Sr., speaking to Congress, first uttered the phrase: "The New World Order." But this is just a coincidence.

Works used: J. McMichael, “Muslims repeal the laws of physics” (2001), А.К. Dedyne, Achilles Project Report (2003), Michelle Chosudowski, “Additional Questions for the Official Version: Talking on 11 September Mobile Phones” (Center for Globalization Research, 2004), prof. Stephen Jones "Why did the WTC buildings really collapse?" (2006), etc. All of these materials — and dozens of others — can be found on the Serendipity.li website (1100 pages and 8400 internal links).
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  1. soldat1945
    soldat1945 2 September 2013 07: 11 New
    34
    Everything secret will ever become apparent, especially in modern information conditions!
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 2 September 2013 07: 20 New
      27
      Well, for Russia there is clearly nothing secret!
      1. LaGlobal
        LaGlobal 2 September 2013 07: 40 New
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        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Well, for Russia there is clearly nothing secret!


        Of course not! I still went to school when in the evening my father turned on the TV, and there it was the same on all channels (11.09.01). We look means ... Yes, father says sadly ... At home, he says so do not collapse! Because at that time, since the age of 15, he worked in the Ministry of Emergencies, and he knows about the types of destruction, especially in case of fire. He immediately said that it was a global setup.

        Actually, to this day, I find carved programs and information on the Internet, which in every way confirms that this is all a fake under the pretext of attacking!
        1. tronin.maxim
          tronin.maxim 2 September 2013 07: 46 New
          +7
          Quote: LaGlobal
          that this is all a fake under the pretext of attacking!

          Precisely noticed! At the beginning of their existence and sow the day they do so. Either there is no democracy, then terrorists have appeared, then the main democracy is trying to offend. All one.
        2. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 2 September 2013 14: 27 New
          -2
          This article is useful because it’s true. But here is what the Americans learn about it and something will change, I don’t believe.
          We’ve got the truth about house bombings, and why? But nothing, pretend that we know nothing.
          Yes, half of Americans do not believe that the United States flew to the moon, and why?

          "Why were the explosions of towers in the USA and the bombings of houses in Russia chosen:
          "I chose these criminal frauds as the most arrogant because, firstly, they were and are being carried out before the eyes of a stupid, intelligent, philistine
          crowds with virtually no conspiracy - openly to utter insolence. And secondly, these scams are directed against their own peoples and states, that is, these are cases,
          when state officials openly act as enemies of their state, enemies of their people. "

          Pros and cons of special services in the fight against any phenomenon:
          "..this is the dirty trick of the specialization of the struggle against anything. On the one hand, specialization, like in any other industries, promises efficiency. But on the other hand, the apparatus of this fight against victory perishes itself. And these are people.
          And these people are not at all happy in the middle or on the slope of their careers to suddenly change their profession and start from scratch and with a small salary. Therefore, they cannot conquer
          the declared war - it is important for them to preserve themselves, not society, since society had the intelligence to specialize them. "

          About the connection of criminals and fighters:
          "The fact that the drug trade is under the auspices of the US special services is not very hidden. When the head of the special team of the strategic struggle
          with drugs in the United States, Michael Levy was pushed against the wall by direct questions about the results of his 30-year-old “struggle”, he said that during the investigation of every major
          the case, which threatened a real blow to the drug mafia, came, they say, the CIA and took the materials of this investigation. "

          http://www.ymuhin.ru/node/224
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 2 September 2013 20: 48 New
            +7
            Quote: S_mirnov
            Why were the explosions of towers in the USA and the bombings of houses in Russia chosen:

            How cool _ If you think the first is true, then you must recognize the second as true.
            Tired of this white-tape hamster
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 2 September 2013 22: 50 New
              +1
              Quote: Cynic
              ak cool _ If you think the first is true, then you must recognize the second as true.

              Well done Cynic, chopping a chip. Probably read the book of S. Kara-Murza "Manipulation of consciousness 2" - if not, read it. Very sensible. True, in this case, I really consider these events to be of the same type. hi
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 4 September 2013 18: 20 New
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                Quote: S_mirnov
                I probably read a book

                No, don’t call sophistry, even though NLP remains sophistry.
                Quote: S_mirnov
                True, in this case, I really consider these events to be of the same type.

                Yes, for the sake of the Almighty, this you only emphasize how far from the people . hi
            2. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 3 September 2013 10: 11 New
              +2
              Quote: Cynic
              Tired of this white-tape hamster

              - I agree, you won’t look without tears, one Swamp organizing committee is worth it!
            3. old man54
              old man54 6 September 2013 00: 46 New
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              Quote: Cynic
              Tired of this white-tape hamster

              Well, this has already become normal, unfortunately, when a person essentially can’t say anything, but instead of a dialogue, he is rude and uzboscalit! negative
              It is clear that when there are, if not a lot of questions, answers to which there are no answers, or even worse, very unpleasant answers beg, dumbness prefers to be rude, just to not admit to yourself that you have a hard time and that you are a deboliold who swallowed the bait at the most I can not.
              Here is the video napirmer:
              1. IIIIvanov
                IIIIvanov 6 September 2013 11: 01 New
                +1
                Yes, and this pi-as of Litvinenko is certainly just an example of honesty and integrity, especially now that there is already evidence of his relatives that he was well paid for these alleged “confessions”. Confessions of relatives, who also became very truthful, after closing the Birch feeder.
              2. Cynic
                Cynic 6 September 2013 18: 37 New
                0
                Quote: old man54
                Well, this has already become normal, unfortunately, when a person essentially can’t say anything, but instead of a dialogue, he is rude and uzboscalit!

                And then
                Quote: old man54
                then stupidity prefers to be rude, just not to admit to yourself that you have a hard time and that you are a deboliold who swallowed the bait by the most I can’t.

                So that the white-tape hamster completely characterizes you too, who have forgotten that there are duties besides rights!
                Yes, the first answer was erased, it was said too frankly.
                Only
                Quote: old man54
                when a person essentially cannot say anything

                One can ask so many questions that 100 wise men will not answer

                I do not attribute myself to the sages, but you think, like everyone like you, they know the TRUTH, only they don’t want to scrub their hands.
            4. IIIIvanov
              IIIIvanov 6 September 2013 10: 53 New
              0
              I agree! Balancing evidence, vileness.
          2. Taidrem
            Taidrem 2 September 2013 21: 57 New
            +2
            About America I agree.
            But about Russia ... Maybe you’ll try to say something about Volgodonsk? Like the FSB or something else crazy there? A man who survived this attack and saw with his own eyes from beginning to end !?
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 3 September 2013 09: 41 New
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              Quote: Taidrem
              Maybe you’ll try to say something about Volgodonsk?

              Unfortunately, I don’t know much about Volgodonsk. If there is a link to the truth, in your opinion, information, please share.
        3. KILLAvolt
          KILLAvolt 6 September 2013 09: 51 New
          0
          Like ... "Oh, how painful, oh you villains, Alkaidians, they hit us in the leg" ... And now hold on, planet !!!
      2. Natalia
        Natalia 2 September 2013 11: 30 New
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        September 11th as a short blank for the invasion of Iraq. (All also notorious oil)
        Here are some truths, so to speak:
        TRUTH №1
        No one will be able to discreetly (with impunity) violate the most protected airspace, and one fighter (not even passenger Boeing) and even twice, this is generally LOL.
        TRUTH №2
        A cruise missile flew into the Pentagon rather than a passenger BOEING, this can be seen in the shape of the holes in the wall and video from the parking lot.
        TRUTH №3
        The WTC building is able to withstand the impact of a single Boeing, they withstood ... the cause of the collapse, according to a number of experts, was the high combustion temperature that allegedly arose due to a fire of aviation fuel .... and here the most interesting, the combustion temperature of aviation fuel ( any) no more than 2000 C degrees, the WTC steel supporting structures withstand temperatures above 3500 C. According to experts (even American), after the tragedy, it was found that the combustion temperature was about 5000 C ... True, then a number of American publications were banned from publishing conclusions expert assessments, but only then two years later. Those involved in this subject could not have imagined that the people would begin to ask questions and stir up the past in search of truth.

        PS Here is my dad as a military man, believes that, most likely, termite was laid there in advance. The plane did not have the opportunity to crash into the right part of the building jeweler’s p. the charges were powered remotely ... and I agree with him a little more than completely.
        1. Natalia
          Natalia 2 September 2013 11: 50 New
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          Do you remember when they asked the US military:
          - Tell me, where is the Boeing itself, which flew into the wall of the Pentagon?
          - Well, you see, it all melted, nothing left ....
          - Well, then where are the traces of the destruction of the wings of the aircraft, because they are so wide, and the hole does not contain transverse defects?
          - Well, you know, when the plane flew into the wall, then its wings were formed by a blow ....
          - Well, how do you explain then that the hole itself is slightly smaller than the Boeing fuselage, and how do you comment on the data from the video camera in the parking lot?
          - No comments, sorry, sorry ...

          Blah, blah, blah .... lie, lie, lie ......

          I was still amused when they (the Americans involved) next to the already destroyed WTC building, found !!! a passport !!! one of the terrorists who captured Boeing .... you know how they explained this, ATTENTION:
          - Well, most likely he threw it out of the window of the plane before the collision, and so there is no doubt that he is .....
          Well, it's just that I don’t know, there are no words ... science fiction writers.
          1. Natalia
            Natalia 2 September 2013 12: 32 New
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            Own government sacrificed 2000 people for the formation of the correct public opinion ... well, this is a Peeee! Yes, what ....
            And also people who got to the roof of the North Tower were never saved, zhurnalyugi in helicopters stupidly flew around them and took pictures of people asking for help ..... well, it's like, it's a pirate .... how can this be ...?
            1. Current 72
              Current 72 2 September 2013 16: 34 New
              +5
              For these “peacekeepers," everything can be done, even donate more than 2000 lives to innocent people. USA - a hyena in sheep's clothing.
            2. Sandov
              Sandov 2 September 2013 16: 35 New
              +4
              WTC workers in the WTC were immigrants from Europe and Asia. 2000 immigrants for amers is not a figure. For the sake of achieving their selfish goals, they can put more.
            3. Bekzat
              Bekzat 2 September 2013 21: 11 New
              0
              Greetings to all, for Natalia, I agree with you on 100%, this is complete !!!
            4. Landwarrior
              Landwarrior 3 September 2013 07: 57 New
              0
              Quote: Natalia
              Own government sacrificed 2000 people for the formation of the correct public opinion ... well, this is a Peeee! Yes, what ....


              The tree of freedom must be irrigated from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
              (c) Thomas Jefferson. All. hi
            5. vlad767
              vlad767 5 September 2013 23: 37 New
              0
              Well, actually, neither in the North nor in the South tower was anyone able to get out onto the roof. The doors were closed. sad
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 5 September 2013 23: 40 New
                +1
                Fire exits are always open, including on the roof. Even special doors are "panic"
          2. slava7075
            slava7075 2 September 2013 15: 36 New
            +9
            Engine elements should have been preserved. but he sank into the water. Well, in the Pentagon, all the foolishness is utter. Give a rocket to an airplane.
        2. fennekRUS
          fennekRUS 2 September 2013 19: 09 New
          0
          Truncate sturgeon - “Increasing the permissible temperature of the working fluid at the turbine inlet is one of the main directions for improving the turbojet engine. If for the first turbojet engine this temperature barely reached 1000 K, then in modern engines it approaches 2000 K." I note-in terms of boost. Kerosene flame temperature - 800, in the environment of pure oxygen - 2000 ° С
        3. APASUS
          APASUS 2 September 2013 21: 25 New
          0
          Quote: Natalia
          Here are some truths, so to speak:

          ALL RECOMMEND READING!
          So much information that he mastered not the first time.
          Of course there are a lot of questions, but many received an answer for all 100.
          21.08.2011/XNUMX/XNUMX. New data. World Trade Center New York Thermonuclear Demolition
          Originally published in German by the German magazine NEXUS, October-November 2010:
          http://www.nexus-magazin.de/ausgaben/nexus-magazin-31-oktober-november-2010, страницы 2 и 32-49, автор Дмитрий Халезов (бывший сотрудник российской ядерной разведки).

          Source - http://www.911thology.com/911_WTC_nuclear_demolition_NEXUS_Russian.htm

        4. Pule
          Pule 5 September 2013 11: 26 New
          0
          no more than 2000 C degrees ...
          temperature maybe in fahrenheit?
    2. maxon106
      maxon106 2 September 2013 09: 26 New
      +6
      I do not protect the mattress covers, but why was Bin Laden silent, why didn’t he tell, through YouTube or other resources?
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 2 September 2013 09: 49 New
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        Quote: maxon106
        but why was Bin Laden silent, why didn’t he tell, through YouTube or other resources?

        Because Bin Laden worked for the CIA and for the time being, he knew that he would not be touched. Until someone decided that he already knows a lot.
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 2 September 2013 10: 37 New
          10
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Because Bin Laden worked for the CIA

          Was there a boy?
          Could this be a code word or operation name or a “dumb” project?
          Quote: LaGlobal
          At home, says so do not fall apart! Because at that time he was already from the age of 15, he worked in the Ministry of Emergencies, and knows about the types of destruction, especially in case of fire. He immediately said that it was a global setup.

          I did not shy in the Ministry of Emergencies and there was not a single shadow of doubt that it was a fraud and I spoke about this to all my friends (the topic was relevant for almost a week) during social talks.
        2. Pule
          Pule 5 September 2013 11: 35 New
          0
          The hawks sponsor is dead, long live the new sponsors!
          “Johnny” Kerry said this to all amers yesterday.
    3. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 10: 15 New
      +6
      Well, about Kennedy, nothing has yet surfaced.
    4. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 2 September 2013 10: 30 New
      +9
      The truth about September 11 will blow America up - this version has been discussed for a long time, there is nothing new in the article. And why so far this information has not blown up America, which is so civilly “active”, they go out to the demonstrations, fight for “democracy” - because most Americans don’t give a damn about the towers and the politics of their country, or the wars that America is unleashing, to the innocent victims of US aggression, besides a considerable part of them are ardent nationalists supporting any massacre initiated by the United States - blue blood. There are few normal people there, and people in general, live with their perverted consumer psychology and do not give a damn about them all over the world. But when the war comes to their house, which I think is just around the corner, then they may wake up.
      1. Arti
        Arti 2 September 2013 11: 09 New
        +6
        No, they won’t wake up. Because they will not fight on their land.
        And the presence of great terrorist activity will only untie the hands of the government and no one will be able to pickle that its freedom is infringed - those who picket are simply “torn” by those citizens - whose relatives and friends died as a result of the attacks.

        We use the latest techniques for managing mass consciousness, they invent and improve them, and do not spare any money for it.

        The tree of freedom from time to time should be irrigated by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
        Thomas Jefferson. 3rd US President
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 2 September 2013 12: 15 New
          +5
          Quote: Arti
          The tree of freedom must be irrigated from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson. 3rd US President

          Soon you will soon replace biblical statements with statements of wisdom from the lips of presidents.
          “It would be worth asking the one who asked me the question. I did not have the opportunity to ask the one who asked me the question. And what question are you talking about? ”
          “The environment is not threatened by pollution, but by the impurity of water and air”
          "Our enemies are inventive and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and so do we."
          "I ordered in case of a threat to national security to wake me up at any time of the day, even if I am at a government meeting."
          "Dear compatriots! I am glad to inform you that I just signed a document that forever puts Russia out of the law. The bombing will begin in five minutes."
          etc. etc.
        2. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 2 September 2013 15: 59 New
          +3
          Quote: Arti
          No, they won’t wake up. Because they will not fight on their land.


          Why's that? The fall of empires is guaranteed by the history of this world. The same thing will happen from the USA - it is a matter of time. And terrorism has nothing to do with it. The police state is doomed.
      2. Bort radist
        Bort radist 2 September 2013 11: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        The truth about September 11 will blow America up - this version has been discussed for a long time, there is nothing new in the article.

        As they strike Syria, this truth will explode, and most likely an hour before the time of Ch.
      3. Papakiko
        Papakiko 2 September 2013 12: 35 New
        +7
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        because most Americans don’t give a damn about the towers and politics of their country, or about the wars that America is unleashing, the innocent victims of US aggression, besides a considerable part of them are ardent nationalists who support any massacre initiated by the United States - blue blood.

        Zashugan to an impossible level.
        They can listen to them 24 hours a day.
        They can “strongly recommend” the employer to fire any person.
        One-second to deprive all livelihoods (develop a "plastic-electronic" means allows) and the suppression of cash circulation everywhere.
        Banknotes with a denomination of more than 50ki are not accepted in most stores.
        About purchases for cash if the purchase amount exceeds $ 150 (groups of goods are also registered) are obliged to notify the "authorities".
        And so on and so on.
        If a cat steps on its tail, then it will look like an apple. Although cats do not eat apples.
        And smart cats try to bite-scratch the offender.
        How much in% can be per 1000000?
        USA-Fascist-police "state".
      4. builder
        builder 2 September 2013 20: 36 New
        0
        The truth about 11 September will blow up America

        There is something to work on for our special services.
    5. Col.
      Col. 2 September 2013 12: 34 New
      -7
      Quote: soldat1945
      Everything secret ever becomes apparent

      We hope ... In Russia, too, there are a lot of people who do not believe their government and president. And there is a very likely version of the fact that the notorious house bombings in Volgodonsk and Moscow were organized by the guardsmen of the GDP on his direct instructions. He, as has often happened in history, needed a “small victorious war” to raise his rating in the wake of pacifying the “vile terrorists” whom he vowed to “dunk in the outhouse” ... People will be surprised when this comes up!
      1. Privat
        Privat 3 September 2013 06: 09 New
        +5
        Well done!
        And the militants in Chechnya, including Raduyev and Basayev, were all disguised as GRU special forces soldiers. fool
        Sometimes turn on the brain so that it does not stagnate.
        1. Col.
          Col. 3 September 2013 09: 24 New
          -4
          Quote: Private
          Sometimes turn on the brain so that it does not stagnate.

          First of all, I’ve never turned off the brain for 50 for years.
          Secondly, in the evening of 11.09.01, I, like all the heads of departments and services of the Air Force and Air Defense Directorate of the Navy, was urgently called up to the Central Command and Command Center and I know all the events no worse than all those who spoke here.
          Thirdly, having a higher military education and a long time working in the field of analysis and evaluation of HPE (military-political situation), I have reason for the assumptions made in the previous comment.
          Fourth, do not distort other people's words!
          I have the honor!
          1. Privat
            Privat 3 September 2013 21: 39 New
            +3
            From the point of view of pure theory, even extremely unlikely versions cannot be discounted.
            But it’s also impossible to turn a blind eye to the fact that the version with the “trace of the FSB” was actively promoted by the odious Mr. Berezovsky “with comrades”. Moreover, all of it grew out of a stupid case with the "teachings" in Ryazan, which really looks like an excess of local excessively stubborn idiots.
            And, you must agree, to consider the house bombings in September as a pretext for the war, which de facto started back in August with the invasion of militants in Dagestan, let's say, illogical.
            Especially for the Euroanalyst. smile
    6. mnn_13
      mnn_13 2 September 2013 13: 53 New
      +4
      Everything secret will ever become apparent, especially in modern information conditions!

      The events of September 11 have long been no secret for people who are interested and thinking, even in the United States. Only truth in itself will change society. It only increases the number of people who "commit suicide" or die under the weight of mysterious circumstances. It is interesting that in Russia itself many people continue to believe the official version of Washington.
    7. honest jew
      honest jew 2 September 2013 16: 12 New
      -8
      September 11 reminds me of the bombings of houses in Moscow, then immediately the withdrawal of troops to Chechnya, then the FSB exercises with RDX in one of the cities of Russia, as it seems to the same scheme, it may turn out that the customers are from the same office !!!!
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 2 September 2013 19: 11 New
        +7
        Mr. Shulman Yitzhak, regarding the fact that the twin towers blew up the special services of the United States - there is plenty of evidence from independent experts, they are also outlined in this article. Where is the evidence that our special services were involved in the bombing of houses in Moscow? Where are the independent investigations? Just do not need to cite the example of the "investigation" of the US Department of State dependent "experts" funded from the United States.
        So your comparisons do not stand up to criticism and generally it is incorrect to compare them.
        Regarding Chechnya, this is our territory, and it’s incorrect to compare the cleansing of one of the regions of Russia from bandits with an attack on independent Iraq, which is not one of the states of the United States.
        Regarding customers from one office - are you a Mossad or something, or the CIA? Quite possible.
  2. Deniska999
    Deniska999 2 September 2013 07: 14 New
    +4
    Well so everyone knows about it. It seems bin Laden was the first to declare.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 2 September 2013 07: 19 New
      +6
      Quote: Deniska999
      Well so everyone knows about it. It seems bin Laden was the first to declare.


      Actually, the question is not what they know, don’t know, but what are the stakes once such a crime sewn with white thread of lies has been committed.
  3. nokki
    nokki 2 September 2013 07: 15 New
    27
    Americans are great masters of all kinds of falsifications, "divorces", fakes. They had “excellent” examples and teachers — ancient Israel and Nazi Germany. The United States is building a new world order based on lies and violence. The barrier to this is only Russia!
    1. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 2 September 2013 09: 20 New
      +6
      Quote: nokki
      The barrier to this is only Russia!


      That's right, my friend! Therefore, we are today all over the West, like a bone in the throat!

      Tell me, is it a nation whose mr. president - a man of a fucking Western world, can offend a weak, less protected opponent ??? I mean, a comparison: strong, offends the weak. Thus, imposing their principles and ideals is pleasing to the Obama regime.

      People in the east lived in peace except Israel, because Jesus said in due time that (to rephrase) they will only dream of peace.
      1. Curculum
        Curculum 2 September 2013 11: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: LaGlobal
        Tell me, is it a nation whose mr. president - a man of a fucking Western world, can offend a weak, less protected opponent?

        So the roots of their president prevail over the rest:
    2. Grenader
      Grenader 2 September 2013 16: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: nokki
      Americans are great masters of all falsifications

      What great things are there. All provocations executed by them are clumsy and stupid. They do not have enough imagination and intelligence to do everything so that one could believe in their words. Even their own zombie people, they can not convince of their innocence.
  4. omsbon
    omsbon 2 September 2013 07: 16 New
    19
    Amers are false in everything and always, in Pearl Harbor, in Syria, in Iraq, but the truth will not blow them up - it will destroy them!
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 2 September 2013 09: 00 New
      10
      Nothing will ever blow up the United States: after all, a stall with stupidly munching individuals cannot explode, and they don’t give a damn about the main thing to drink, eat and have sex. The country of general consumption, what to expect from it!
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 10: 18 New
        +6
        May explode if the eater runs out.
      2. Val_y
        Val_y 2 September 2013 14: 25 New
        +2
        Precisely, the NSA after Vietnam made huge conclusions, and now it’s impossible, even for very literate citizens of America (there are very few of them), to aggravate the situation, and how (according to opinion polls from Chewing Stall Upra, the most influential Zhana of Tan, is that ?? ??, TV Announcer ???? Influential ???? HAHAHAHAH
  5. vitek1233
    vitek1233 2 September 2013 07: 18 New
    +9
    Official Washington doesn’t bother to create a strong legend; even children lie believable
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 2 September 2013 07: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: vitek1233
      Official Washington doesn’t bother to create a strong legend; even children lie believable


      This is what is alarming. Why so implausible?
      1. Evgeniy-111
        Evgeniy-111 2 September 2013 08: 24 New
        +3
        And so that all then doubt for a long time: "are the terrorists or the government to blame"?
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 2 September 2013 15: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: Evgeniy-111
          And so that all then doubt for a long time: "are the terrorists or the government to blame"?
          Yes, many no longer doubt it. Those who are interested in this topic have long understood that this is an undermining. hi
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 2 September 2013 10: 51 New
        +6
        Why not why. Because this is the pinnacle of their possibilities. They do not know how better! At some point, material incentives become useless, quality of work and intelligence no longer grow, no matter how much you pay. And this threshold is not at all as high as the poor apologists of the theory “money rules the world” think. Money rules his plot, and this plot is malicious, vile, cunning, dismounted ... whatever you want but not smart and skillful.
        Simply put, for the money, we managed to buy only these squinty goofies. But really cool specialists did not engage in this toadstool, that’s all. The article does not have, for example, a funny fact - the massive roll of fraud. Insurance companies have identified several thousand people who "were" in the twin towers. They were obliged to be there, their relatives, as expected, applied for their insurance upon death ... only these people did not die. Of course, in the budget of the operation there was insurance compensation money so that they would not dig. Where do you think this money is? Something like that...
        1. Val_y
          Val_y 2 September 2013 14: 30 New
          +4
          Not only that, in the towers, at the time the robots started, there should have been from 35 to 50 thousand, each, however, in the buildings, there were only security guards, employees of the building itself, cleaners, watchmen, and the most ordinary office workers, in addition, these buildings 1-2 days before the tragedy, they insured for oh ... the sum. This is cynicism, simple.
        2. Maverick78
          Maverick78 4 September 2013 11: 41 New
          0
          I don’t remember which movie I heard saying: "they forgot how to work purely because there is no need for it. The mass media will clean it all up." Something like this, I do not remember literally. And in the mass media they have really strong specialists.
      3. roninas
        roninas 2 September 2013 21: 53 New
        +2
        Goebbels used to say, “The larger the lie, the sooner they will believe in it.” I don’t understand HOW can you believe that the buildings collapsed from the side of an airplane? In the Moore film, it seems, the load-bearing beams are shown obliquely cut by the explosion. destruction is controlled, the building doesn’t collapse like that. Usually, part of the building collapses and that’s all. Any dock movie about the war, see burning buildings, even after the bombing, there are only the upper floors that collapsed and that's it. And then two modern buildings were in place. and plus one that has nothing to do with it. Cool. So lying impudently, sacrificing almost 3000 people, where is Goebbels
    2. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 2 September 2013 09: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: vitek1233
      Official washington


      I’ve seen this official Washington in a coffin!
  6. My address
    My address 2 September 2013 07: 28 New
    10
    And really.

    How can a building, after hitting an airplane, break down strictly? This is possible only in the case of the "removal" by aircraft of structures of at least half the cross section of the building. What is not visible on the video. Hence, it is obliged to collapse in the direction of the blow, or resist.

    Builders!
    Your opinion?
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 10: 21 New
      +5
      The latest explosives were found on the supporting elements, this was discovered by 2 American scientists in 2013, it was made on the basis of nanotechnology and was applied in the form of paint, however, in the United States these scientists were declared paranoid and asked to treat them like idiots, people from masachus. .univers, far from stupid.
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 2 September 2013 12: 33 New
        11
        Well, as an engineer with Soviet education, everything is clear to me-People with access to the Buildings and repeated ones could do this)))
        The building collapsed (3) from supposedly strikes ("2") of aircraft ...
        moreover, in the third building there was NO FIRE .... and the plane didn’t get there ...
        Look carefully at the photo, the hole in the projection plane fully corresponds to the profile of the aircraft — that is, an aluminum plane that interrupted steel structures made of steel, even the wingtips)))
        This can only be done with explosives and pyrotechnic effects ....

        now by the design of the explosion ...
        hitting planes is an imitation, there were no planes, the plane couldn’t break through the building and completely hide inside)), engines, fuselage parts, wings would come off and they would fall down .... and we only saw pyrotechnic effects and staging trick (simulation )))
        Now, in the THREE explosions that demolished the buildings ... the explosives were interesting, it completely crushed the metal (changing the crystal structure, that is, the supporting structures instantly lost their properties and the Buildings collapsed in 12 seconds (free fall))))
        The Pentagon is definitely a missile with a beacon pointing ...
        moreover, this building is seriously guarded, including by means of air defense, so without military assistance, this cannot be done)))

        then an interesting fact - not a single Jew, from among those working in the WTC who rented offices there, was not injured)))
        By the way, in Pripyat there lived a large number of God's chosen nation, and also all as if on command left before the accident at the nuclear power plant ...

        that's where the ears grow)))
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        1. My address
          My address 2 September 2013 14: 41 New
          +4
          Vladimir, you are right!

          For example, the wings, the plumage was supposed to cut. And it must be Padat. And it is very impressive, there any wing plane is more than 100 square meters.
        2. fero
          fero 2 September 2013 18: 59 New
          -1
          Quote: Asgard
          then an interesting fact - not a single Jew, from among those working in the WTC who rented offices there, was not injured)))

          Asgard, do not drive the blizzard lan? This is not a fact, but a fantasy.
          The victims were 5 citizens of Israel.

          http://web.archive.org/web/20021104190710/http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite
          ? pagename = JPost / A / JPArticle / ShowFull & cid = 1031666147075


          http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62151,00.html

          This is not counting Jews, citizens of other states.
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 2 September 2013 19: 22 New
            0
            Quote: fero
            Asgard, do not drive the blizzard lan? This is not a fact, but a fantasy.
            The victims were 5 citizens of Israel.

            And more than 400, out of 2296, were Jews, citizens of other countries, mostly Americans ...
    2. builder
      builder 2 September 2013 20: 55 New
      0
      The weakest link in the official version is the Pentagon.

      What happened to the wings of a Boeing? Presumably, the wings, together with the engines attached to them, should have come off in a collision with parts of the building (to the left and to the right of the wall breach)
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 2 September 2013 21: 12 New
        0
        Quote: stroitel
        What happened to the wings of a Boeing?

        And the wings did not cause much damage in the military-technical cooperation and, for example, in the collision of this


        With Empire State Building in the 45th /

        The scope of the B-25 is 21 meters, the hole in the building is slightly more than 10.
        1. builder
          builder 3 September 2013 09: 44 New
          +1
          It is not clear where the large fragments of the aircraft - engines, wings, etc. Check out the photos of a plane crash in a city. There are always large debris at the crash site, but they are not here.
    3. builder
      builder 2 September 2013 21: 01 New
      +3
      A close-up shows the inlet. Foam on glass above the impact point of 100 tons of the 757 crashing into the wall. But they did not even destroy the windows.
      On board flight AA77 were from 56 to 64 passengers and crew. If he crashed into the Pentagon, then what happened to the bodies? And with the luggage of passengers? No traces of either were found. In any plane crash there are corpses (even if they are badly burned).
      The U.S. government said passengers were identified by DNA. Hundreds of tons of metal were completely burned, and the DNA of the alleged passengers, like the Mohammed Atta passport near the WTC, miraculously survived
    4. Docent1984
      Docent1984 5 September 2013 13: 24 New
      +1
      Welcome) Without even going into the details of structural mechanics, I simply summarize - the destruction is clearly unstressed. In the case of an “attack” from the outside, something similar can only happen if a cumulative charge of significant power is directly struck vertically downward. And so - an explosion from the inside - it is almost a fact.
  7. 1st_user
    1st_user 2 September 2013 07: 30 New
    +1
    This article has recently been, but someone swapped words and laid it out again here.
  8. Tatanka Yotanka
    Tatanka Yotanka 2 September 2013 07: 40 New
    +3
    The truth about 11 September will blow up America
    this truth has been known for a long time, even the films were shot - pharengate 911 - the golden palm branch of the Cannes festival, was released in cinemas in the USA and Canada on June 25, 2004, and raised more than $ 222 million (of which 119 million in the United States and 99 million in other countries ), thereby taking the first line in fees among documentaries in history.
    and that that exploded then
    here comrade Vasserman, respected on this site, is also quite for the official version
    1. Strashila
      Strashila 2 September 2013 17: 15 New
      +1
      Of course, Anatoly is an erudite person, no doubt here. But in this situation I do not agree. The theory of addition by "pancake" takes place, but ...

      If you look at the footage of the chronicle, you can see a distinct and specific outbreak ... the fuel exploded correctly ... that is, a significant part of it simply ceased to exist ...
      further according to the laws of gravity all liquids flow ... correctly !!! down ... and consequently a fire ... yes, a drop in gravity put down the buildings for 10-12 seconds ... we won’t waste time for 1 minute ... during this time the fuel ... burning should spread dozens of floors down, so fiery a waterfall through stairs and shafts ... but what’s burning is burning. And it should have flowed not only inside the building, but also along the outer wall ... the perimeter of the fluid-holding ... just not there.
      Further, what you should pay attention to ... smoke, it is black, even if we assume that the fuel is burning, it burns with an excess of fuel ... that is, a lack of oxygen. Burn it so that to heat the metal, we would observe a little smoke , but a strong haze, but this is not.
      And also in the frames, we see that at the top the smoke carries ... the wind, i.e. it burns, but the temperature blows in one direction. And in the end, we should observe not a one-time collapse of the floor, but collapse and runoff, even if they were heated to a state of loss of strength ... well, they cannot at the same time ... they cannot all.
  9. ZeroFact
    ZeroFact 2 September 2013 07: 41 New
    +6
    U.S. involvement in the 11/XNUMX attacks is undeniable (too much evidence). The disclosure of this fact is PLANNED, and should serve as the beginning of the end of the United States. The main question is when this will happen and what will happen next.
  10. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 2 September 2013 07: 44 New
    +6
    <<Thierry Meyssan's book "Monstrous Fraud" for some reason decided to refute. The Frenchman concentrated on the attack on the Pentagon, and incidentally concluded that the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington were carried out by a group that is at the very top of the US military and political elite. September 11 intimidated George W. Bush, delivered ultimatums, forcing the president to change the nature of foreign policy. Bush allegedly accepted the ultimatum - and, firstly, he survived, and secondly, at the head of his country.>>

    But Kennedy apparently did not accept the terms of the "shadow military and political elite" and he was removed as well as other intractable US presidents. And therefore, so far in both cases there is no clear answer to these crimes. The Shadow Cabinet is able and has enormous financial opportunities to hide the truth.
  11. rereture
    rereture 2 September 2013 08: 39 New
    -1
    Alas, the article is not relevant.
  12. saag
    saag 2 September 2013 08: 41 New
    +2
    In the case of the Pentagon, some sort of hack
    1. biglow
      biglow 2 September 2013 11: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: saag
      In the case of the Pentagon, some sort of hack

      amers have run out of planes or there were no Arabs to spare laughing
  13. Nikolski1973
    Nikolski1973 2 September 2013 09: 00 New
    +2
    Everyone had no doubt that the Americans were lying as always to start another war game.
  14. White
    White 2 September 2013 09: 12 New
    -17
    The author of the article is illiterate
    Twin towers collapsed in a controlled manner.

    After this phrase I could no longer read. It is possible to construct conspiracy theories arbitrarily, I fully admit that the CIA was involved in the organization of the attack, but the towers fell due to air strikes and anyone who understands this at least a little.
    1. Controlled collapse is controlled explosion, you watch such videos there the whole building is shrouded in kilometers of wires, hundreds of explosive laying points, this is a huge amount of work, how this can be done unnoticed in a building where thousands of people are located.
    2. An indisputable fact that aircraft crashed into the WTC.
    3. We all saw a video of the collapse and it is clearly visible that they started from the place of the plane’s strike. If we assume that the buildings collapsed in a controlled manner, explain how they knew so precisely so exactly where the planes would go. Well, suppose the Americans planted super aces at the helm and just pointed them to the floor of the strike. Then all the bookmarks would either work immediately and not wait for several hours or not work at all since all the wires burned out in a fire.
    4.
    designed to withstand a collision with a Boeing 70
    The Titanic was also designed as an unsinkable aircraft.

    And the best explanation is given in the animated series "South Park", although there is very harsh humor.
    1. rereture
      rereture 2 September 2013 09: 41 New
      +5
      I watched the Discovery show about blasting, drove a tall building (like offices) in dense buildings, explosives were laid only in a few specific places, namely on steel columns, there were no kilometers of wires either. And the building collapsed like the towers, that is, it happened.
      1. White
        White 2 September 2013 11: 11 New
        0
        Well, let this be so (although I almost always saw the opposite on a lot of wires). But as paragraph 2 and 3.
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 2 September 2013 20: 23 New
          +2
          These are beams with the WTC with a thickness of 6,7cm wall melted at an angle of 45 degrees, do you think this is how the planes did so?
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 2 September 2013 20: 26 New
            +1
            Quote: bomg.77
            These are beams with the WTC with a thickness of 6,7cm wall melted at an angle of 45 degrees, do you think this is how the planes did so?

            Obviously, the Yankees imperceptibly sawed several hundred iron beams, it's that simple after all !!!
            1. svp67
              svp67 2 September 2013 20: 29 New
              +2
              Quote: Rumata
              Obviously, the Yankees imperceptibly sawed several hundred iron beams, it's that simple after all !!!
              Such a “filed” is excellently done with a “detonating cord ...”
              1. Rumata
                Rumata 2 September 2013 20: 30 New
                -8
                Quote: svp67
                Such a “filed” is excellently done with a “detonating cord ...”

                And with the help of a Jedi sword .. So what? Both fiction
                1. tilovaykrisa
                  tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 20: 37 New
                  +2
                  Why a Jedi Sword? Even if we assume, purely theoretically, that they have melted, the sections of the building will fall with a slowdown and the degree of deviation will increase every second, since the building's PTS do not fall unless they are specially prepared for this. Add the fact that the building itself was designed to meet with such a liner + the most important fact 2/3 of the building was not exposed to fire and as a result had no damage to the supporting structures, however the building was very beautiful. This is not a wooden house where the ceilings burned out and the floors collapsed down.
                  1. Rumata
                    Rumata 2 September 2013 20: 53 New
                    +1
                    Quote: tilovaykrisa
                    Even assuming purely theoretical that they melted

                    Nobody said that they melted, it was invented by conspiracy theorists
                    Quote: tilovaykrisa
                    then the sections of the building will fall with a slowdown and the degree of deviation will increase with each second

                    What kind of nonsense? Several dozens of floors, from a height of 3 meters, fall on the supporting structures, not damaged floors, they can not stand and the effect of dominoes comes out. You heard about gravity, and that things falling down have the ability to accelerate, so the impact on the supporting structures was so strong, and therefore the whole collapse was accelerated .. Or do you think that at the level of 10 floors, it will be easier for the supports to support the weight of 90 floors than on 70 - 20?
                    Quote: tilovaykrisa
                    Add and the fact that the building itself was designed to meet with such a liner

                    No, it was not, why did you get this? Modern skyscrapers, built according to a different scheme of load-bearing structures, may have survived. The number of floors above the impact site in the second building was two times less, and it stood about two times longer, but the collapse was inevitable, they even talked about it live when they noticed that the floor began to bend inwards around the perimeter due to subsidence of horizontal load-bearing beams ...
                    1. tilovaykrisa
                      tilovaykrisa 2 September 2013 21: 16 New
                      +1
                      Google carefully the topic, the towers were designed to collide with a 760 Boeing, you put dominoes in a hill of 100 figures and then drop it and see first hand how they will fly apart. I won’t be able to get such an accurate fall. laughing Well, about the support melted it is of. version of the us government what do conspiracy therapists have to do with it?
                      1. Rumata
                        Rumata 2 September 2013 21: 43 New
                        0
                        Quote: tilovaykrisa
                        Google the topic carefully, the towers were designed to collide with a 760 Boeing

                        Yes, I was all googled and googled more than one year ago, when I myself was sure that the United States itself had undermined everything. It has long been dispelled by all these myths that originally came from the United States and it was there that were the most popular. Before...
                        Quote: tilovaykrisa
                        an orc of 100 figures and then drop it and on your own experience you will see how they fly apart

                        The fact that you are comparing the military-technical cooperation with the domino slide suggests that you are not at all in the subject of building constructions in general and military-technical cooperation in the above privacy. I wonder why here the house fell, how so? And horizontally down, and not on the side

                        Quote: tilovaykrisa
                        Well, about the support melted it is of. version of the us government what do conspiracy therapists have to do with it?

                        Where did you read that? Of. the version is that the heat weakened the steel until it led to what they called Structural failure
                      2. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 2 September 2013 21: 51 New
                        +1
                        ...............
              2. svp67
                svp67 3 September 2013 01: 01 New
                +1
                Quote: Rumata
                And with the help of a Jedi sword .. So what? Both fiction

                Well, you know better ... But, this is a reality

              3. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 3 September 2013 01: 04 New
                +4
                Quote: Rumata
                So what? Both fiction

                You, an hour, not a relative of Pupyrchaty? To the same thing - and facts - not facts, let the nightingale be ashamed ... laughing
              4. Privat
                Privat 3 September 2013 07: 37 New
                +2
                Fantasy? But these experiments with the termite "on the knee" of "Star Wars" or what?



                With English, I hope there will be no problems?
          2. bomg.77
            bomg.77 2 September 2013 21: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: Rumata
            Quote: bomg.77
            These are beams with the WTC with a thickness of 6,7cm wall melted at an angle of 45 degrees, do you think this is how the planes did so?

            Obviously, the Yankees imperceptibly sawed several hundred iron beams, it's that simple after all !!!

            If you want to drink it, you want to undermine it, but an aluminum plane will not do it. For several hundred beams, it is enough in the right places the right beams, and not all.
            1. igor67
              igor67 2 September 2013 21: 48 New
              0
              Quote: bomg.77
              Quote: Rumata
              Quote: bomg.77
              These are beams with the WTC with a thickness of 6,7cm wall melted at an angle of 45 degrees, do you think this is how the planes did so?

              Obviously, the Yankees imperceptibly sawed several hundred iron beams, it's that simple after all !!!

              If you want to drink it, you want to undermine it, but an aluminum plane will not do that.

              YES YOU SHOULD THERE ARE MORE ENGINES AND BURNING SO. YOU DID EXPLOSIVE PACKAGES IN YOUR CHILD WITH AN ALUMINUM MAGNESIUM POWDER
              1. bomg.77
                bomg.77 2 September 2013 22: 25 New
                0
                Quote: igor67
                YES YOU SHOULD THERE ARE MORE ENGINES AND BURNING SO. YOU DID EXPLOSIVE PACKAGES IN YOUR CHILD WITH AN ALUMINUM MAGNESIUM POWDER

                Did the packages do the explosion and what follows from this? Engines burned out?
                1. igor67
                  igor67 2 September 2013 23: 21 New
                  0
                  Quote: bomg.77
                  Quote: igor67
                  YES YOU SHOULD THERE ARE MORE ENGINES AND BURNING SO. YOU DID EXPLOSIVE PACKAGES IN YOUR CHILD WITH AN ALUMINUM MAGNESIUM POWDER

                  Did the packages do the explosion and what follows from this? Engines burned out?

                  I described above how the helicopter burned, the engine is not 100 percent steel, and weighs more than one tonne, like a glider, it is a skin of a thin one and many tons, of cars that still carry it. And it’s not lit weakly, it’s too expensive an occasion to invade Afghanistan, any provocation in Pakistan would be enough.
                  1. bomg.77
                    bomg.77 3 September 2013 00: 32 New
                    0
                    Quote: igor67
                    I described above how the helicopter burned, the engine is not 100 percent steel, and weighs more than one ton, like a glider, it is a skin of a thin one and many tons, about cars that still carry it. And it’s all lit not weak, too expensive
                    Igor, if there was a fever in the area of ​​steel melting temperature, how could people be there?
                    Why is the angle so correct, as if cut on a miter box Where the planes crashed, the fire quickly went out.
                  2. bomg.77
                    bomg.77 3 September 2013 00: 38 New
                    +1
                    Quote: igor67
                    the reason for the invasion of Afghanistan would have been some kind of provocation in Pakistan.
                    Americans got carte blanche for military operations around the world after such a "terrorist attack", and not in a single state
                    1. studentmati
                      studentmati 3 September 2013 00: 46 New
                      +3
                      Quote: bomg.77
                      Americans got carte blanche for military operations around the world after such a "terrorist attack", and not in a single state


                      You probably meant that the Americans have created carte blanche, but didn’t get it?
                    2. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 3 September 2013 00: 49 New
                      +3
                      And for all ASP, total surveillance, violation of civil rights! And remember what howl was raised after the South Korean Boeing.
                    3. studentmati
                      studentmati 3 September 2013 00: 53 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Alex 241
                      And remember what howl was raised after the South Korean Boeing.


                      They usually always run ahead of the engine! The evidence has not yet been falsified, but a take-off command has already been given! Than only once again confirm their weakness ...
                    4. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 3 September 2013 01: 04 New
                      +1
                      Well, our dilettantes also set up there, remember the statement that the pilot fired warning shots from a cannon, with a total expenditure of 135 shells. So on the Su 15tm, there is no built-in cannon it can only be hung in the UPC23-250, but on the database, they were never hung, full-time suspension R-98 R-60
                    5. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 3 September 2013 01: 05 New
                      0
                      Code of Criminal Procedure 23-250 on the fuselage pylon.
                    6. studentmati
                      studentmati 3 September 2013 01: 12 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Alex 241
                      Well, our dilettantes also set up there, remember the statement that the pilot fired warning shots from a cannon, with a total expenditure of 135 shells. So on the Su 15tm, there is no built-in cannon it can only be hung in the UPC23-250, but on the database, they were never hung, full-time suspension R-98 R-60


                      And you, Sanya well done, remembered Temko for a reason? Today, was there a date? And where is the article of informed persons on the site?
                    7. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 3 September 2013 01: 19 New
                      +3
                      Sasha’s mattresses seem to be a maniac for September, and again, the round date is 1983. I wanted to write an article on this subject, but my hands didn’t reach me. Here, too, where there were some questions, after examining the aircraft by divers, the bodies of passengers were not found.
                    8. studentmati
                      studentmati 3 September 2013 01: 26 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Alex 241
                      Sasha at the mattresses is apparently a mania for kaktaklizma in September.


                      August and September, if you look through the whole story, has always been prolific to extraordinary acts, "to put it mildly, roughly speaking." The vast majority of wars and provocations fall on this period of time. Perhaps the stars say so? I agree?
                    9. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 3 September 2013 01: 28 New
                      +2
                      Yes Sasha, some kind of mysticism.
                    10. studentmati
                      studentmati 3 September 2013 01: 34 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Alex 241
                      Yes Sasha, some kind of mysticism.


                      Thanks for the movie, Sash!

                      If it’s mysticism, it’s only that we perceive everything that is happening as mysticism.

                      We must remember that we humans are just aliens in this world. And we sometimes and very often pretend to be the masters of the World! Based on this, let's love, respect and protect what we have! And rejoice when we do not have for it!
                2. studentmati
                  studentmati 3 September 2013 02: 09 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  Sasha at the mattresses seems to be a mania for kaktaklizma in September


                  Congress stated that it is not a lordly business to consider such issues during the holidays; let’s proceed on September 9th. You cannot refuse logic: on September 9 we will discuss, vote, on September 10 we will make a decision, and on September 11 this decision will come into legal force!
                  For the anniversary !!! drinks
      2. bomg.77
        bomg.77 3 September 2013 01: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: studentmati
        Perhaps you meant that the Americans created a carte blanche, but did not receive it?
        I think your wording is more correct hi
      3. studentmati
        studentmati 3 September 2013 01: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: bomg.77
        I think your wording is more correct hi


        This wording is yours! Maybe my reading is more accurate?
      4. bomg.77
        bomg.77 3 September 2013 02: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: studentmati
        This wording is yours! Maybe my reading is more
        I agree with that too!
      5. studentmati
        studentmati 3 September 2013 02: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: bomg.77
        I agree with that too!


        There is only one sense - the hands of the scoundrels are untied ...
      6. bomg.77
        bomg.77 3 September 2013 02: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: studentmati
        There is only one meaning - the hands of the scoundrels are untied
        Putin and Shoigu are doing handcuffs for them now. I hope Russia will be fully armed by the time X, because it cannot go on like this for a long time. Do you have the feeling that we are facing a big mess?
      7. studentmati
        studentmati 3 September 2013 03: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: bomg.77
        Do you have the feeling that we are facing a big mess?


        There are no sensations, but there is confidence.

        Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Iran, North Korea, Cuba .... I missed someone, I still didn't remember someone, but the idea is clear ...
      8. bomg.77
        bomg.77 3 September 2013 03: 27 New
        0
        Russia needs to make the same list from democratic countries
  • Rumata
    Rumata 2 September 2013 21: 49 New
    -3
    Quote: bomg.77
    but an aluminum plane won't do that.

    At the oath, why are you writing this? Do you think so? Grandmas on the bench, whispering? Have you personally blown up the planes?
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 2 September 2013 22: 17 New
      0
      Quote: Rumata
      At the oath, why are you writing this? Do you think so? Grandmas on the bench, whispering? Have you personally blown up the planes?
      based on common sense.
  • Papakiko
    Papakiko 2 September 2013 13: 12 New
    +2
    Quote: rereture
    And the building collapsed like the towers, that is, it happened.

    10000000000000000000000000%

    This example is enough.
    Add all zhzhzhzhzhzhzhzh.
    1. TRAFFIC
      TRAFFIC 2 September 2013 13: 35 New
      -1
      That's it, that this example is enough to see something that undermines this building, nor has anything to do with the collapse of the towers.
    2. White
      White 2 September 2013 14: 16 New
      -1
      Everything is beautiful, but one caveat - the WTC began to collapse from the point of impact and not from the foundation.
    3. svp67
      svp67 2 September 2013 20: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: Papakiko
      Add all zhzhzhzhzhzhzhzh.

      It also happens...
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 3 September 2013 02: 36 New
        0
        Quote: svp67
        It also happens...


        Cool! Designers bypassed the destroyers !!! drinks
  • Papakiko
    Papakiko 2 September 2013 13: 13 New
    +3

    Fascinating beauty.
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 3 September 2013 02: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Papakiko
      Fascinating beauty.


      From the point of view of the application of technological solutions is beautiful, I agree!
  • TRAFFIC
    TRAFFIC 2 September 2013 10: 44 New
    -4
    Yes, in South Park, they normally explained why people believe in a conspiracy. wassat
  • biglow
    biglow 2 September 2013 11: 37 New
    +6
    Quote: White
    The author of the article is illiterate
    Twin towers collapsed in a controlled manner.

    After this phrase I could no longer read. It is possible to construct conspiracy theories arbitrarily, I fully admit that the CIA was involved in the organization of the attack, but the towers fell due to air strikes and anyone who understands this at least a little.
    .

    you would carefully read the arguments of the conspiracy theorists. How did the steel melt? How did you call from the plane if this was impossible? Where are the remnants of the planes that fell on the pentagon and in oklahoma? Look at the pictures of any plane crash, it’s always mountains of garbage and sparkling parts, where is it all? In case of any accident investigation, first they study the places of the accident and then clean the place and the amers put everything in circulation, quickly cleared everything from the remnants of the aircraft and then began the investigation ???? turn on the brain ....
    1. White
      White 2 September 2013 11: 51 New
      -4
      In your opinion, all videos of the blow are fabricated. The second plane was live as possible.
      I do not rule out conspiracy theory but the WTC fell because of the planes, I'm sure of it (although there are some incomprehensible nuances there). The other two aircraft are not much understood there. I fully admit that the latter was shot down by a fighter.
      But you yourself think about how to conduct the preparatory building for a controlled explosion, so that this would remain a secret. And again, even if it is possible, all this preparation went down the drain after the ram, and the collapse began precisely from the point of impact. Although, again, why did they fall so evenly the question remains.

      I revised a bunch of different films about the arguments in due time and remained the same on the WTC anyway. (such as Apollo on the moon).
      1. alex13-61
        alex13-61 2 September 2013 12: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: White
        WTC fell due to aircraft

        Dashing trouble - the beginning ... There were cases of collision of aircraft with buildings (if you wish, you can find it by typing in a search engine), but the buildings did NOT FOLD ...
    2. TRAFFIC
      TRAFFIC 2 September 2013 12: 29 New
      -4
      About molten steel, why did you get this? There isn’t any molten steel in the official version. About the Pentagon fragments, here’s a photo collage from the shot reporters materials. And there is evidence of dozens of people who saw a Boeing hit the Pentagon. Obviously, you built your vision of this event solely on the basis of the words of conspiracy theory supporters.
      1. Val_y
        Val_y 2 September 2013 14: 56 New
        +4
        Dear comment on this, and the photo was taken before the collapse of the spans of the building itself and the demolition of pillars "to simulate the approach of an airplane"
        1. TRAFFIC
          TRAFFIC 2 September 2013 16: 32 New
          -3
          Uh, what to comment on?
      2. Proud.
        Proud. 2 September 2013 15: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: TRAFIC
        About molten steel, why did you get this? There is no molten steel in the official version.

        And what is this?. And where did you get the idea that the official version is really true?
        1. TRAFFIC
          TRAFFIC 2 September 2013 16: 31 New
          0
          The official version of the reasons for the collapse of WTC, prepared by NIST specialists. Have you ever heard of such a thing? In the photo are cut columns when analyzing the rubble, in the elderberry garden, and in Kiev, uncle?
          1. Proud.
            Proud. 2 September 2013 19: 51 New
            0
            Quote: TRAFIC
            and uncle in Kiev?

            I have an uncle in Odessa. By the way. Good, but still not clear. How could such (such) buildings collapse at the rate of free fall? Having such a steel frame? Pay attention to the wall thickness of the steel frame elements:
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 2 September 2013 20: 06 New
              0
              Quote: Be proud.
              How such (such) buildings could collapse at a free fall rate


              If English is not a boom, there are animations from 1-20
              1. Proud.
                Proud. 2 September 2013 22: 32 New
                +1
                Quote: Rumata
                with 1-20 there are animations

                Oh, yes! Of course, I immediately have to believe the animation (that is, the cartoon), which can be tailored to the OFFICIAL (not the fact that true) version. Here's an excerpt from the article I DO NOT have to believe: ".." To heat steel is like pour the syrup onto a plate: the syrup will not stand upright. The heat goes to the colder parts of the steel structure, and the parts that you are trying to heat up are cooled. And I have to believe that the fire burned, getting hotter, until reached a melting point of 1538 ° C. And that all 200 thousand tons of steel were heated up to it from fuel from the fuel tanks of one aircraft. ”The maximum temperature for unprotected steel structures during similar fires reached 360 ° C, which is very far to 550 ° C , the first critical threshold at which changes in the structure of steel begin to occur .. ". So
                Quote: Rumata
                If English boom boom
                , does not play a role. And what then is this ?:
                1. Rumata
                  Rumata 2 September 2013 23: 14 New
                  0
                  Quote: Be proud.
                  getting hotter until it reaches its melting point - 1538 °

                  Double two, heating metals to high temperatures, reduces their strength. Steel at 700 Celsius, weaker than lead at room temperature, it does not break, but bends. Ask your friends who worked on Martin, they will tell you how metals behave at relatively high temperatures.
                  Quote: Be proud.
                  the temperature for unprotected steel structures during similar fires reached 360 ° C

                  =)) Fires often exceed 1200-1300., What are 360? When burning aviation fuel indoors ???
                  Here's an example from the wiki -
                  For residential buildings and public buildings, indoor temperatures reach 800–900 ° C. As a rule, the highest temperatures occur during external fires and average 1200–1350 ° C for combustible gases, 1100–1300 ° C for liquids, and 1000–1250 ° C for solids. When burning termite, electron, magnesium, the maximum temperature reaches 2000–3000 ° C.
                  Quote: Be proud.
                  , does not play a role. And what then is this ?:

                  Of course explosions !! In the animation above, everything is clear, this is not an official version fit, open any plan of the military technical cooperation and you will see horizontal beams that were attached to vertical ones. And these mega explosions have already procrastinated a thousand times, google to help you, to prove something to those whom I still can’t convince, a waste of time.
          2. Proud.
            Proud. 2 September 2013 19: 55 New
            +1
            Quote: TRAFIC
            in the elderberry garden

            And so this frame looked like an assembly:
    3. roninas
      roninas 2 September 2013 22: 04 New
      +1
      Missing plane, supposedly crashed in retirement 7. So there is generally no fuselage. No wing, no engine. Well, nothing, a hole in the ground and that’s it. Damn, look ANY catastrophe, even if the plane stuck uphill, all of the named parts are present. So ALL THIS is a lie, pi ... well, and provocation
  • LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 2 September 2013 11: 53 New
    +2
    Quote: White
    And the best explanation is given in the animated series "South Park", although there is very harsh humor.


    I quote:
    After this phrase I could no longer read.
  • Proud.
    Proud. 2 September 2013 15: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: White
    The Titanic was also designed as an unsinkable aircraft.

    Never mind a plane! 46.000 tons!
  • alone
    alone 2 September 2013 17: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: White
    The Titanic was also designed as an unsinkable aircraft.


    belay
    maybe still a ship?
  • Vtel
    Vtel 2 September 2013 09: 35 New
    +5
    This truth is already over 10 years old. Question? And whoever needs this truth in America, the Zhidomassons so fooled their people that, against the background of sly eruptions towards Syria, the Inhnii people no longer distinguish between where the truth is and where the falsehood has become tolerant to evil. And the Yankees don't give a damn about the opinion of other peoples - they cook their bloody porridge by the order of their father, the devil.
  • Vladimir M.V.
    Vladimir M.V. 2 September 2013 09: 36 New
    +1
    1. igor67
      igor67 2 September 2013 20: 27 New
      +1
      [quote = Vladimir M.V.] [
      I started to watch this film, I’ll write my vision. First, for some reason, everyone converges on a kerosene ignition, although they forget about the glider itself and engines, but believe it, the keros is worse and the burning temperature of an aluminum-magnesium alloy is many times higher, especially a multi-ton machine, when the mi6 helicopter caught fire, so many calculations tried to put it out in vain, a piece of the tail boom only remained, and the firemen were useless if they couldn’t get close, the second was put out with water, who knows what would happen if the water was put out, the third smoke, again also the Volga 21 left for the night lit up, there was no fire, smoke was turned off, only when the firemen opened the doors from two sides of the workshop, the fire flashed, the small room has little oxygen, but the temperature is high, I’m not a fireman, but simulate by video and never see a real scam fire
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 2 September 2013 20: 38 New
        0
        Quote: igor67
        but simulate by video and never see a real scam fire

        In fact, those who investigated the fall of the towers, checked and double-checked many times. At 600-650 centigrade, steel loses 50-55% of its strength, at the point of impact of the aircraft, the temperature reached 900 degrees. Steel at 1500 melts, but the conspiracy theorists are sure that at 700-900, it remains as strong.

        Uniform collapse causes brain closure in many here .. Here is a clear illustration -
        1. Proud.
          Proud. 2 September 2013 22: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: Rumata
          Uniform collapse causes brain closure in many here ..

          Try to use your quote in relation to yourself. There is simply an opinion different from yours.
      2. Alex 241
        Alex 241 2 September 2013 20: 52 New
        +2
        Hi Igor, we all break spears around the collapse of the towers. But my question is: how could people with minimal flying training on light-engine Cessna manage Boeings and perform complex maneuvers, with a turn and a drop?
        1. studentmati
          studentmati 2 September 2013 22: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Alex 241
          But my question is: how could people with minimal flight training on light-engine Cessna manage Boeings and perform complex maneuvers, with a turn and a decrease?


          Hi Sasha! I also constantly puzzled over such accuracy. Is it possible to choose and calculate the trajectory with jewelry getting to such a large mass at a certain point. To do this, at a minimum, you must have colossal knowledge in physics, aerodynamics, aircraft construction, control theory, etc. etc. And even if there is such knowledge without training and practice, is this done ???? Or maybe everything was originally laid down in the flight program, it remained only to exclude the intervention of regular pilots?
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 2 September 2013 22: 35 New
            +1
            Hi Sasha, here I am constantly thinking about it, and I can’t find an answer. And the inhabitants were thrown a bone in the form of collapsed towers, and the main reason is in the shade.
            1. studentmati
              studentmati 2 September 2013 22: 40 New
              0
              Quote: Alex 241
              Hi Sasha, here I am constantly thinking about it, and I can’t find an answer. And the inhabitants were thrown a bone in the form of collapsed towers, and the main reason is in the shade.


              I believe that the main reason is still a griffin for at least 50 years.
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 2 September 2013 22: 43 New
                0
                If not more, November 22 will be the 50th anniversary of the death of Kennedy.
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 2 September 2013 22: 45 New
                  0
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  If not more, November 22 will be the 50th anniversary of the death of Kennedy.


                  I guess, yes. In cases involving human resources, the vulture starts at 75.
                  1. cyberspace
                    cyberspace 5 September 2013 15: 37 New
                    0
                    Quote: studentmati
                    Quote: Alex 241
                    If not more, November 22 will be the 50th anniversary of the death of Kennedy.

                    I guess, yes. In cases involving human resources, the vulture starts at 75.

                    You guys are optimistic. According to some reports in England there are unclassified papers about the death of Griboedov. How old is Tom? So the towers and grandchildren of your (and ours) great-grandchildren do not know anything.
  • Sonik
    Sonik 2 September 2013 09: 39 New
    +1
    http://pandoraopen.ru/2011-09-21/11-sentyabrya-termoyadernyj-snos-vsemirnogo-tor
    govogo-centra-v-nyu-jorke /

    if anyone has not read, read to broaden your horizons soldier
  • Kostyanich
    Kostyanich 2 September 2013 09: 42 New
    +4
    the most mysterious why the third skyscraper collapsed
    he also decided once the twins fell and I for the company? laughing
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 2 September 2013 09: 54 New
      +7
      a plane was supposed to get into it too, but didn’t reach
  • The Indian Joe
    The Indian Joe 2 September 2013 09: 47 New
    +2
    "Twins" blew America.
  • holding
    holding 2 September 2013 09: 47 New
    +4
    Well, the fact that this was done by the hands of the American special services is clear to everyone. And who else needed to do this? In all seriousness, the terrible alhaida, the North Korean threat, democracy, etc. etc. hardly anyone now believes.
  • FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 2 September 2013 09: 50 New
    +5
    The aircraft is made of ultralight alloys, in towers 24 heavy-duty piles. The official version is ridiculous.
  • erased
    erased 2 September 2013 09: 51 New
    +2
    Who is behind the attack of aircraft in the United States so everyone knows. As I know, the one behind the bombings in Moscow, an attempt to blow up a house in Ryazan. Politics leads its game, people in this game are just dust. And to believe the authorities - that in the States, that in Russia - is stupid and often unsafe.
  • Per se.
    Per se. 2 September 2013 09: 54 New
    +8
    One can agree or not with the author of the article, one thing is certain - how lucky the Americans are for these troubles at the right time and right place! Need a war with Spain to expand its staff? Please, in the bay of Havana in January 1898 explodes the American armored cruiser "Maine", there is a good reason for the start of the Spanish-American war. Need to enter the Second World War, and the public against? Please, get the treacherous Japanese attack in December 1941 on Pearl Harbor, from which all American aircraft carriers successfully left, and the Japanese were provoked by the oil problem. Do you want to bomb Vietnam a little bit by starting a war there? Yes, “know problem!”, In August 1964, a muddy Tonkin incident appeared, which gave rise to bombing in Vietnam. The Yankees didn’t come up with anything new, they really wanted to get into Afghanistan, and the people were again “off topic”, the vile terrorists very well broke down the towers, they are aces kamikazes. A country where President Kennedy was killed not without the help of special services, where they always find pretexts with false statements about test tubes for the war in Iraq, or the use of chemistry by Assad, for aggression against Syria, can lie more than once, I personally do not believe such a country. States, this is a thief country, a gangster country, a parasite country that covers up its satanic essence with chatter about freedom and democracy, ready for any falsification.
  • Chumich
    Chumich 2 September 2013 10: 32 New
    +4
    in September 11 there really are a lot of non-connections. How could aviation kerosene melt steel is not clear. How both buildings collapsed with an hour difference and perfectly smooth. What crashed into the Pentagon is generally a mystery that it was a huge Boeing can not be believed, in such cases there are many fragments of the plane.
  • Alex66
    Alex66 2 September 2013 10: 50 New
    +2
    Finally, the 11 of September also saw a military coup in Chile - 28 years before the American tragedy. And for 11 years before her, and also 11 of September, George Bush Sr., speaking to Congress, first uttered the phrase: "The New World Order." But this is just a coincidence.
    Well, let’s check that the voting in the USA in Syria is not earlier than September 9, just in time for September 11, if they’re not afraid.
  • sub307
    sub307 2 September 2013 10: 52 New
    +2
    In general, of course, it looks pretty much like a large-scale provocation carried out by "special services" on someone else's order.
  • Makarov
    Makarov 2 September 2013 11: 04 New
    +4
    I will try to clearly and concisely describe the impossibility of carrying out in this case a controlled explosion in the usual way.
    1. The charge that steel can cut through is mounted on the element no thicker than the working element of the explosive (usually a steel plate, which, under the influence of strong compression, directionally moves towards the material being cut at an incredibly high speed)
    2. In order to "fold" the building "inwards", synchronization in hundredths of seconds is needed, calculated in a fairly simple "grandfather" way ... BUT ... only a special cord filled with explosives can provide such speed. The propagation velocity of the "impulse" only in this case will be sufficient to carry out such a complex drift.
    3. The steel beams of such a building are quite thick, and for demolition in such cases they are weakened. (I represent a man in WTC with a cutter cutting columns) ...

    But the trick is that the buildings were mathematically verified, no specialists are needed here. If the plane that got into the building destroyed the upper structures and caused the “lever” effect, which later led to the “pulling out” of the columns, then the building collapsed “inward” and did not fall “on its side”, why it started to collapse from the crown ", whereas the part above the blow had to fall off separately and pull the building behind it, which again had to fall on its side, why the fuel from the wings did not spread over the facade .... etc etc ..

    The main question is: WTC 7 from what fell? from the wreckage ??? Is that Potemkin farm? was it made of cardboard?
  • Ross
    Ross 2 September 2013 11: 07 New
    +4
    Quote: LaGlobal
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    Well, for Russia there is clearly nothing secret!


    Of course not! I still went to school when in the evening my father turned on the TV, and there it was the same on all channels (11.09.01). We look means ... Yes, father says sadly ... At home, he says so do not collapse! Because at that time, since the age of 15, he worked in the Ministry of Emergencies, and he knows about the types of destruction, especially in case of fire. He immediately said that it was a global setup.

    Actually, to this day, I find carved programs and information on the Internet, which in every way confirms that this is all a fake under the pretext of attacking!


    They are not used to it. Their whole story is riddled with set-ups, for the sake of their goals. That explosion of the cruiser Maine (War with Spain), that the torpedoing of Louisiana (entered the 1 world), etc.
  • Letterksi
    Letterksi 2 September 2013 11: 48 New
    +2
    There are more interesting "oddities" about which the article is silent.
  • Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 2 September 2013 11: 52 New
    +2
    The laws of nature (physics) cannot be changed by any statements! You just need to know them.
    Traces of explosives should have remained on the scrap metal sold from skyscrapers, if this was an internal explosion. In terms of the speed of sales of scrap metal to the Chinese and Koreans, there was something to hide.
  • Far East
    Far East 2 September 2013 12: 05 New
    +1
    And I met this news on board the ship! and we all had a conversation, sho "bucks" will fall! and we don’t get ... we won’t get on this flight! Well, about the terrorists there, we didn’t give a damn, to be honest! hi
  • Colonelic
    Colonelic 2 September 2013 12: 14 New
    +3
    Quote: Mikhail3
    Why not why. Because this is the pinnacle of their possibilities. They do not know how better! From some point, material incentives become useless, quality of work and intelligence no longer grow, no matter how much you pay.
    And this threshold is not at all as high as the poor apologists of the theory “money rules the world” think. Money rules his plot, and this plot is malicious, vile, cunning, dismounted ... whatever you want, but not smart and skillful. Simply put, for the money, we managed to buy only these squinty goofies.
    But really cool specialists did not engage in this toadstool, that's all ...
    The process of degradation and degeneration of the power political "elite" - this is a long-established trend not only in the USA and other countries of “freedom and democracy”, but also, unfortunately, in the current post-Soviet Russia!
    It is from here that the need and even necessity follows for them in the use of previously known stamps in solving one or another complex tasks and problems ...
    In principle, this “elite" is no longer able to offer any new solutions!
    In this regard, I believe the degenerate power "elite", in the face of an increasing systemic global crisis, is doomed and therefore will certainly bring the world to global upheavals ...
    Which we are observing.
    Alas, in my opinion, this is inevitable!
    1. apro
      apro 2 September 2013 12: 44 New
      +3
      Here you are wrong The SGA government is the most advanced of all, only the PRC government is firmly defending its interests. They are honing their power all over the world, their information pressure has flooded the whole world, military power has replaced them with industry and their fraudulent schemes in finances milk everyone. to overestimate the enemy, they have dolls at the top, but people who control everything are not stupid and certainly not degradants.
  • apro
    apro 2 September 2013 12: 28 New
    +3
    I don’t think that the truth will blow them up, their media and political technology system handheld justice is gradually preparing the population for this to remember the films “tail wagging the dog” “taxi driver” with Mel Gibson “Conspiracy Theory.” I think for the population of the SGA their political life compare tv shows where there is everything and they don’t really care, they are much more worried about material well-being and improving it they will forgive their politicians everything. There is a war, it does not stop even for a minute SGA use all permissible and unacceptable methods to conquer and live better much better than the rest of the world .This state is a bandit and only death will stop him.
  • Strashila
    Strashila 2 September 2013 12: 39 New
    +6
    “Another problem with the official version is that both skyscrapers settled smoothly and smoothly.” ... this is confirmed by the history of skyscraper fires.

    information from the site http://www.calvinism.ru/sep11.htm

    February 13, 1975 in the same skyscraper of the WTC there was also a FIRE - the North Tower of the WTC BURNED 3 HOURS, THE FIRE COVERED 6 FLOORS, AND THE SKY SCRAPER WAS NOT DESTROYED, AND REMAINED FOR 26 YEARS!
    In 1945, a bomber crashed into a 102-story skyscraper in New York Empire State Building. After the fire, the skyscraper remained standing.
    In 1988, the 62-story skyscraper in Los Angeles burned for 3 hours, the fire spread to 4 floors, after the fire, the skyscraper remained standing.
    In 1991, the 38-story skyscraper in Philadelphia burned for 19 hours, the fire occupied 8 floors, and after the fire, the skyscraper remained standing.
    In 2000, the Ostankino Tower burned in Moscow, but it did not collapse, did not crumble to dust, but remained standing.
    In 2004, the 56-story skyscraper in Venezuela burned for 17 hours, the fire reached the roof and consumed 26 floors, the skyscraper remained standing.
    In 2005, the Windsor Hotel burned in Madrid for 24 hours, a fire completely destroyed 10 floors, the upper part of the building collapsed, but the rest remained standing. The collapsed part of the hotel was restored.
    However, the quality Twin Towers, enduring the fire of 1975 and not even shaken by the attacks of aircraft in 2001,
  • nikcris
    nikcris 2 September 2013 13: 15 New
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    I have only one assumption on this subject, whitening a little bit ov (not exempting the special services from responsibility !!!!!!!)
    Namely. Since the complex was built in the existing tight development, already at the design stage elements of self-liquidation of the buildings were laid down - in case of similar state of emergency, to minimize the consequences (maybe this is also at Ostankinskaya?). Buildings were designed for a plane strike, but they were overdone or in the seventies with metal structures on halturali. When there were fears that the tower could collapse to one side, a difficult decision was made to put an end to the WTC ... I have no doubt that everything was planned.

    PS Concerning the melting points of metals given above. Have fun. In order for the metconstruction to completely lose its bearing capacity, it does not need to be melted - it is enough to heat up to 300 degrees (saw the work of the blacksmith? Does it FOAM metal bend like plasticine?).
    1. SlavaP
      SlavaP 2 September 2013 23: 08 New
      0
      Exactly. I read that this is why the WTC would be chosen for this provocation - in the buildings during the construction, charges were installed to accurately demolish them when the time comes. And the time has come.
      Another very interesting detail. The year before these events, immediately after the election, Mr. Bush loudly announced the continuation of the Reagan Star Wars program. And literally the day after 9 / 11, he announced that he was abandoning this program and would redirect funds (huge!) To the “fight against terrorism”. You understand that in this place the leadership of Russia breathed a sigh of relief - how, then, do not spend many billions on confronting America in space ... Question - why is this such charity? It seems that Russian intelligence also dug up something, and Bush chose to buy silence ...
  • Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 2 September 2013 14: 15 New
    +1
    I can’t wait for that moment ... let this America tear into 52 small pieces ..... which we will deal with later ...
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 2 September 2013 14: 29 New
    +3
    The case of Dr. Goebbels lives and conquers ... the citizens of the country of victorious dermocracy.
  • screw cutter
    screw cutter 2 September 2013 14: 37 New
    +5
    My relative, the commander of an aircraft with a huge number of flying hours, said within a week after 9.11.:"You (turning to me) ever saw a metropolis from a bird's eye view, even with my experience I need more than one training to get to at a speed of 400-700km / h. into the building at a height of 200m and a width of 70m. It was not people, it was like a homing head, but a radio beacon was working in the building. "
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 2 September 2013 14: 38 New
    +2
    Nothing of the truth about September 11, 2001 will explode. You need to know the Americans. I worked with them and talked (communicate) since 1996.
  • Proud.
    Proud. 2 September 2013 15: 04 New
    0
    Here is an interesting version. http://maxpark.com/community/2599/content/772242
  • Grif
    Grif 2 September 2013 15: 20 New
    +1
    It's time for Obama to blow up something at home, for example, a statue of liberty. And it will be possible to bomb Syria. For Iran, you can even arrange a nuclear explosion in Harlem. There will be double benefit. Hmm, according to this logic, before attacking Russia, they need to undermine all their nuclear stockpiles. Something I fantasized about smile
  • Sharp
    Sharp 2 September 2013 16: 56 New
    -1
    Stop grinding water in the mortar. The towers were demolished by underground nuclear explosions. At 150 kilotons, the depth of 77 meters. Type on the Internet "Dmitry Khalezov nuclear submarine WTC." The Soviet missile Granite hit the Pentagon. Read about it at Khalezov. This is a former Soviet nuclear intelligence officer.
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 2 September 2013 17: 12 New
    +2
    The bell in the oval office. Bush picks up the phone, there is:
    is bin laden. I have two news - bad and good
    -come on good
    I decided to give up
    bad?
    I'm flying
  • akm8226
    akm8226 2 September 2013 18: 51 New
    0
    Also me, Newton’s binomial ...
  • Rumata
    Rumata 2 September 2013 19: 17 New
    -2
    The site has become a "fan club" in the United States, every second topic, about how terrible they are. CATHO, writing about the fact that there is no god is now prohibited by the rules ...
  • Technologist
    Technologist 2 September 2013 19: 26 New
    0
    They do not believe ... but do we ourselves believe our rulers? One country merged in the 91st, the second army in the 95th, at first everyone seemed to trust the third, but in fact the continuation of the first. Now is the second wave of privatization and that’s all ...
  • Bambino
    Bambino 3 September 2013 00: 04 New
    +1
    Everything fell into place when Obama supported al Qaeda.
  • slaventi
    slaventi 3 September 2013 03: 10 New
    0
    They blew themselves up. Provocation. To start the invasion of Afghanistan and then Iraq
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 3 September 2013 03: 21 New
      0
      Quote: slaventi
      They blew themselves up. Provocation. To start the invasion of Afghanistan and then Iraq


      Everything is simple and logical ... Maybe, maybe ...? Do you have evidence or arguments?
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 5 September 2013 19: 00 New
        0
        Quote: studentmati
        Do you have evidence or arguments?

        Can instead studentmati ?
        Evidence _ Video footage of building collapse and objective data analysis.
        Arguments _ Even in this article they are up to ... and higher!
        Rђ RІRѕS,
        start an invasion of Afghanistan and then Iraq

        Everything can be simpler and worse. _ The purely mercantile interest of the building owners coincided with high goals state.
        hi
  • Pule
    Pule 5 September 2013 11: 46 New
    0
    I wonder if Obama will return the Nobel Peace Prize when he "explodes" a nuclear site in Syria?
    John Kerry said the unbelievable - sponsored war. Why am I ...
    On September 9, senators will say Obama "Yes," and the "hawks" will smash Syria.
    9/09 in retaliation to the Islamists for 9/11, and at their expense, moreover ... Bin Laden in deep shadow ...
  • Captain green
    Captain green 5 September 2013 13: 39 New
    +1
    For the umpteenth time I am convinced that reading comments is much more interesting than the material itself ... IMHO ..