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Washington sent two aircraft carriers to the Gulf region

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From now on, the US aircraft carriers Harry Truman and Nimitz will be in the Persian Gulf, US administration officials said Wednesday.


According to them, the “Harry Truman” who arrived in the Arabian Sea had to change the “Nimitz”, which was planned to be returned to the base. However, his command was ordered to stay.

How much is not indicated. Now the aircraft carrier is in the Indian Ocean, ITAR-TASS notes.

Representatives of the administration called this move reasonable, saying that this does not mean that Nimitz would be involved in a possible military operation against Syria.

Sixth Command fleet earlier it had decided to leave the destroyer Makhan in the region, whose term of duty had expired and which was supposed to return to the base in Norfolk according to the plan.

Thus, there are now four American warships equipped with cruise missiles in the Mediterranean. These are the destroyers Makhan, Gravely, Barry and Range.

18 August in the Arabian Sea arrived group of ships in the aircraft carrier "Harry Truman", missile cruisers "Gettysburg" and "San Jasinto", destroyers "Balkeli" and "Mason". In addition to them, in the zone are "Nimitz" and a group of support ships.

The situation around Syria escalated after media reports referring to statements the opposition reported the alleged use of chemical weapons in the suburbs of Damascus.

Long before that Western politicians, including President Barack Obama, called the use of chemical weapons Syrian authorities under direct intervention in the conflict in that country.

US President Barack Obama said he had not yet made a decision about Washington’s response to the use of chemical weapons in Syria. State Department spokesman Marie Harf explained earlier that Washington would decide on actions in Syria regardless of the work of UN inspectors investigating the himataki.
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  1. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 29 August 2013 10: 28 New
    +5
    Такое впечатление что сша обиделись, что об них "вытерает ноги" Россия, причем постоянно и решили поиграть мышцами. Но реально напасть ан Сирию духа уже не хватает. Надеюсь что повыеживаются и отвалят. Ну а если нет - последствия для сша и их союзников будут плачевные.
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    2. Aryan
      Aryan 29 August 2013 10: 36 New
      +5
      Recalled
      Once in the Atlantic Ocean collided
      catholic cathedral and american aircraft carrier ...
      long afterwards angels and fighters flew in the sky
      because they had no where to land
      1. VasDA
        VasDA 29 August 2013 10: 47 New
        19
        And yet ... Bayan, but the music is fun ...
        Разговор между испанцами и американцами на частоте "Экстремальные ситуации в море"...Финистерра (Галиция). 16 Октября 1997 г.

        Spaniards: (background noise) ... says A-853, please turn 15 degrees south to avoid a collision with us. You are moving right at us, a distance of 25 nautical miles.
        Americans: (background noise) ... we advise YOU to turn 15 degrees to the north to avoid a collision with us.
        Spaniards: The answer is no. Repeat, turn 15 degrees south to avoid a collision.
        Americans (other voice): The captain of the ship of the United States of America speaks to you. Turn 15 degrees north to avoid a collision.
        Spaniards: We do not consider your proposal either possible or adequate and we advise you to turn 15 degrees south so as not to crash into us.
        Americans (in elevated tones): CAPTAIN RICHARD JAMES HOWARD SAYS WITH YOU, COMMANDER OF THE USS LINCOLN CARRIER, THE NAVY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE SECOND QUANTUM OF A SHIP.
        НАС СОПРОВОЖДАЮТ 2 КРЕЙСЕРА, 6 ИСТРЕБИТЕЛЕЙ, 4 ПОДВОДНЫЕ ЛОДКИ И МНОГОЧИСЛЕННЫЕ КОРАБЛИ ПОДДЕРЖКИ. Я ВАМ НЕ "СОВЕТУЮ", Я "ПРИКАЗЫВАЮ" ИЗМЕНИТЬ ВАШ КУРС НА 15 ГРАДУСОВ НА СЕВЕР. В ПРОТИВНОМ СЛУЧАЕ МЫ БУДЕМ
        WE SHOULD TAKE THE NECESSARY MEASURES TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR SHIP. PLEASE IMMEDIATELY REMOVE OUR COURSE !!!!

        Spaniards: Juan Manuel Salas Alcantara speaks to you. We are 2 people. We are accompanied by: our dog, dinner, 2 bottles of beer and the canary, which is now sleeping.
        Нас поддерживают радиостанция "Cadena Dial de La Coruna" и канал 106 "Экстремальные ситуации в море". Мы не собираемся никуда сворачивать, учитывая, что мы находимся на суше и являемся маяком А-853 пролива Финистерра Галицийского побережья Испании. Мы не имеем ни малейшего понятия, какое место по величине мы занимаем среди испанских маяков. Можете принять все .....ные меры, какие вы считаете необходимыми и сделать все что угодно для обеспечения безопасности вашего ....го корабля, который разобьется вдребезги об скалы. Поэтому еще раз настоятельно рекомендуем вам сделать наиболее осмысленную вещь:
        CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 degrees south to avoid a collision.
        Americans: Ok, accepted, thanks.
    3. Sandov
      Sandov 29 August 2013 10: 45 New
      +8
      Quote: Ruslan_F38
      Такое впечатление что сша обиделись, что об них "вытерает ноги" Россия, причем постоянно и решили поиграть мышцами. Но реально напасть ан Сирию духа уже не хватает. Надеюсь что повыеживаются и отвалят. Ну а если нет - последствия для сша и их союзников будут плачевные.

      By and large, amers, these ghouls will sign themselves a death sentence. Infinitely this gangster structure cannot exist, it must collapse. 2 the law of thermodynamics should work.
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 29 August 2013 11: 32 New
        +3
        what thousands of words will mean, when the strength of your hands will be important, and here you are standing on the shore, and think to swim or not to swim ....... Victor Robertovich - to Vladimir Vladimirovich
      2. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 29 August 2013 11: 52 New
        +1
        "Удар по Сирии приведет к интернационализации конфликта, втянув в него многие страны региона, причем поддерживать они будут противоборствующие стороны. В первую очередь речь идет о региональных тяжеловесах: Иране — главном спонсоре и союзнике Башара Асада — и Турции, с самого начала гражданской войны безоговорочно поддержавшей сирийскую оппозицию.Духовный лидер Ирана аятолла Али Хаменеи, крайне редко выступающий с внешнеполитическими заявлениями, на сей раз нарушил традицию. Он объявил: вмешательство США в сирийский конфликт «станет катастрофой для региона». Аятолла сравнил Ближний Восток с пороховым складом и предостерег: после ударов по Сирии будущее этого склада станет «невозможно предсказать». " - запылает весь ближний восток,в попытке создать "управляемый" хаос вокруг России - амеры видимо переоценивают свои возможности и свою неуязвимость. Ящик пандоры уже давно открыт.
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 29 August 2013 11: 56 New
          +2
          "По данным опроса Ipsos-Reuters, около 60% американцев выступают против силового вмешательства США в Сирии, поддерживают его лишь 9%. В Великобритании, по данным опроса YouGov, число сторонников силовой акции чуть выше — 25%, но 50% британцев выступают против прямого вмешательства их страны в сирийский конфликт. По данным Французского института общественного мнения, около 60% французов против участия Парижа в силовой акции. В то же время 54% граждан Франции поддержали бы интервенцию, если бы она проводилась под эгидой ООН." - http://3mv.ru Вон оказывается как, а общественность то против, ну и что будут натовцы с этим делать? Видимо забьют.
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 29 August 2013 12: 01 New
            +3
            Jordanian and American units withdrawn to the border of Syria
            Арабские СМИ сообщают о "развертывании вдоль всей 370-километровой границы с Сирией" иорданских и американских подразделений.
            Кувейтская газета Al-Rai ссылается на иорданского командира, который заявил: "На протяжении нескольких месяцев мы готовились к этому сценарию. Мне была поручена подготовка иорданских и американских частей".

            Al-Rai also refers to the testimonies of local residents who say that in the area of ​​the city of Ramta, a military fist of several thousand soldiers and dozens of tanks is concentrated.

            Ramta is located just a few kilometers from Deraa, the capital of the province of the same name in Syria.
            Sky News Arabia reports that despite official statements of non-intervention in Syria, Jordan is preparing for a possible neutralization of Syrian chemical weapons and terrorist groups in Syrian territory.
            Анонимный источник Sky News Arabia сообщает, что иорданские войска на протяжении нескольких месяцев "готовились к операции в условиях, идентичных сирийским". Целью наземной операции может стать создание "буферной зоны" в Дераа.
            Некоторые арабские источники утверждают, что, вопреки официальным заявлениям Вашингтона об "ограниченном" характере готовящейся операции против Сирии, речь идет о нечто большем, чем удар "Томогавками" по Дамаску и окружающим военным базам.
            Allegedly, two tank groups are concentrated on the border with Syria - one Jordanian and one Saudi. Also, 3 militants of the Syrian Free Army were deployed to the border, which were trained by CIA instructors over the past few months.
            Целью вторжения будет не только создание "буферной зоны", но и провозглашение временного правительства на "освобожденной территории" и создание непосредственной угрозы Дамаску – при взаимодействии с действующими там исламистскими группировками. Подробнее об этом можно прочитать в материале "План сухопутного вторжения в Сирию".
            Patriot batteries are placed along the border with Syria - in the event of a possible Syrian retaliatory strike.
            It is also reported on the possibility of using air bases and radar stations in northern Jordan, in the event of an attack on Syria.
            Jordanian media, citing German sources, also write about the deployment of a combat group along the Syrian border. It is also reported that a large number of military aircraft and drones are being flown to northern Jordan. - from the site the third world. It seems to have begun. Some media write that the invasion will begin on Friday night.
      3. Makhno
        Makhno 29 August 2013 12: 04 New
        -12
        Quote: Sandov
        Infinitely this gangster structure cannot exist, it must collapse. 2 the law of thermodynamics should work

        You do not allow the idea that it could work in relation to Russia? What are you, scattered, all so evil?
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 29 August 2013 12: 09 New
          +3
          Are you Ukrainians apparently so kind? Judging by your comment, you want only the good of Russia, yes?
          1. Makhno
            Makhno 29 August 2013 12: 15 New
            -10
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            Judging by your comment, you want only the good of Russia, yes?

            To allow and desire is two huge differences. If this is not clear to you, then this is your problem.
            1. lewerlin53rus
              lewerlin53rus 29 August 2013 12: 25 New
              +7
              Quote: Makhno
              If this is not clear to you, then this is your problem.

              It’s time to realize that our problems are also your problems. Ukraine cannot exist without Russia. She will be devoured and will not choke, tearing to pieces.
              1. Makhno
                Makhno 29 August 2013 13: 05 New
                -9
                Quote: lewerlin53rus
                Ukraine cannot exist without Russia. She will be devoured and will not choke, tearing to pieces.

                Dream, maybe it’s easier .... that's why almost all the former Soviet republics, partners and allies turned their backs on you Russians. How many tantrums are there about the SVD, the Baltic countries, etc. And as it turned out, they can live without Russia, and pretty well.
                1. Vlad 1965
                  Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 13: 13 New
                  +3
                  MAKNO.
                  Ну ну ,расскажи про"впечатляющие успехи"самостиников,есть такие?
                  Well, perhaps the fact that the brothels of Europe are clogged with Ukrainians, and the men in the backyard plowing everywhere, is that a great achievement of an autonomous rabble screaming like a RUH in 90, eaten fat?
                  So where is the fat, if you are eating it from Poland, Belarus and Russia?
                  What can be proud of self-seekers? Monuments to the kat of Ukraine Bandera? So such pride on the verge of insanity. Monuments to Mazepa? And even worse, proud to be a traitor ...
                  Hysterics, wai, oh, what stupidity, while all the natschval beats in hysteria, from Blow to Freedom, all sorts of fools like Farion and Tyagnibokov ...
                  1. TRAFFIC
                    TRAFFIC 29 August 2013 13: 24 New
                    0
                    That prostitutes also no success
                    In 2006, Russia, Ukraine, and Romania were at the top of the list — in that order. However, as follows from the Tampep report, already in 2008, the three changed. Romania came in first (12%), followed by Russia (9%), and Bulgaria (8%) came in third.

                    Romania and Bulgaria joined the European Union in 2007, and their citizens received the right to freely travel to other member countries of the organization.

                    Next in the list are Nigeria and Ukraine (7% each), and then a large group of countries with indicators of 3-4% - Belarus, Moldova, Hungary, Poland, the Baltic countries and others.
                    from second place rolled back to fourth. laughing laughing laughing
                    1. Vlad 1965
                      Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 13: 40 New
                      +2
                      Hmm, the independents and there was no luck ...
                      1. TRAFFIC
                        TRAFFIC 29 August 2013 14: 30 New
                        0
                        Great too, an honorable second place.
                      2. Vlad 1965
                        Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 14: 41 New
                        +2
                        Yes, they didn’t fight very much, in contrast to the tearing assists in Europe.
                        This is not a question of who is what place, the question is different, does not understand the herd dumbfounded by Russophobia, that cannon fodder from them, so arrogant Saxons, is so tasty.
                        You won’t guess from three times, against whom the secessionists will be allowed, as cannon fodder, do you need it?
                        History does not teach anything, but it punishes great people who have not learned lessons.
                      3. TRAFFIC
                        TRAFFIC 29 August 2013 15: 02 New
                        -1
                        Something has taken you far, is it possible that the third world war is on the verge? Like 99.99% of the population of Ukraine for world peace. And even if it does, we, Ukraine, will not be able to sit out, such a geographical position that from west to east our land will go from east to west. It does not depend on the choice with whom to be friends in the economy.
                      4. Vlad 1965
                        Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 15: 14 New
                        +2
                        Eka you're wrong then ...
                        All the way this fucking West dreamed of tearing Ukraine away from Russia.
                        What was such a hoopoe like Skoropadsky based on? On German bayonets and on fully pro-German politics with their support, what the hell is self-discipline now that they teach in schools, they say Mazem \ py, Petlyury, did Bandera build something self-independent independently ??
                        There is always a choice. WHO in the West needs UKRAINE goods? Only raw materials, and not even the first limit, but cheap labor, no more.
                        What is the gain with Russia, the goods are taken with a bang, PRODUCTION then you breathe thanks to RUSSIA.
                        Politicians, now to attack Nenko, crazy, they will sell their mother as well, just to sit as a specific prince.
                        In what state was UKRAINE in the year 90, and now? It’s necessary to try so hard that 12 million Ukrainians get rotten, and slide down to the level of Africa in terms of development? Is there any stat data that conclusively proves that Ukraine’s Bandera’s independent people are steadily leading to RUIN .
                        And now at the expense of World War 3, but what doesn’t it go to?
                        GOES, in a cool phase.
                        And when it becomes hot, where you’ll sway, everything is clear with the bandera, they don’t get used to it, then in the SS, then under the ami, it would only crack fat and pour blood, but where do you go, with whom and against whom?
                        http://maxpark.com/community/politic/content/2172238
                        Add Crimea here and the whole picture will fall into place.
                      5. TRAFFIC
                        TRAFFIC 29 August 2013 16: 25 New
                        +1
                        Well, it happened in different ways, for example, Bush Sr. was against declaring Ukraine’s independence, Dulles (the one they say had a plan laughing ) in general, in his current plan he wrote about Ukraine http://www.sakva.ru/Nick/NSC_20_1R.html read section 4. DIVISION OR NATIONAL UNITY It would be our nationalists declared enemy number one. laughing As for the goods, it’s not so bad with Europe and not so good with Russia, which by the way has a free trade zone with us, and with the EU yet, I can give a link to statistics for all countries of the world, we have good only with Africa and other countries. smile А насчет 90-ого и сейчас ,ну какой смысл сравнивать Украину в СССР и сегодняшнюю ,тогда была совсем другая экономическая модель и отношения с другими странами ,не выдержала конкуренции наша экономика с импортом ,плюс разрыв экономических связей с другими бывшими республиками СССР. В сельском хозяйстве сейчас ,по некоторым позициям, Украина превзошла показатели при СССР .И как-бы 12 млн загнобить ,все-таки перебор ,"всего-лишь" 6, многие уехали в ту же Россию ,Израиль,но тут и Россия не уступает ,да и Европа тоже переживает демографический кризис .И в
                        Ruin
                        then V.F. Yanukovych leads us by the way, these are the questions to those who elected him, I personally did not vote for him, the west of Ukraine in general was always very weakly represented in the government, so there was no way to lay responsibility on them in the country. Well, for the third world, I hope and believe that this will not happen in the near future, 100-200 years, when the resources start to run out, then maybe it will, and it’s unlikely, but now there’s just no sense, no reason, all this tinsel with Syria does not pull to the third world, the East both blazed and blazed a long time ago and there is no end to it, because of the people who turned on religion and other nonsense, no one will arrange an armageddon.
                2. Cynic
                  Cynic 29 August 2013 19: 26 New
                  0
                  Quote: TRAFIC
                  Great too, an honorable second place.

                  Yes, but we are much inferior to democracy in Ukraine, it is much higher in the ranking, somewhere near Iraq.
                  bully
        2. lewerlin53rus
          lewerlin53rus 29 August 2013 13: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: Makhno
          Dream, maybe it’s better.

          Yes, I have other dreams, but you don’t understand
  2. Vlad 1965
    Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 12: 17 New
    +3
    This is not a Ukrainian, this is an evil Bandera.
    This population, the brain was washed with Russophobia so that not a single sensible argument in their killed brain is delayed.
    1. Makhno
      Makhno 29 August 2013 13: 22 New
      -3
      Quote: Vlad 1965
      This is not a Ukrainian, this is an evil Bandera.
      This population, the brain was washed with Russophobia so that not a single sensible argument in their killed brain is delayed.

      Дык куда уж нам, сирым, до "великага старшего брата", особенно до таких как ты "украинцев".
      py.s. can you poke my nose into my russophobic statements or other manifestations of russophobia?
      1. Vlad 1965
        Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 13: 39 New
        +3
        Makhno UA Today, 12:04 ↑

        Quote: Sandov
        Infinitely this gangster structure cannot exist, it must collapse. 2 the law of thermodynamics should work

        You do not allow the idea that it could work in relation to Russia? What are you, scattered, all so evil?
        YOURS? Well and not flickering.
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 29 August 2013 19: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Vlad 1965
      it is an evil Bandera.

      At the time, the NKVD and the Gulag did not work!
      And he took such a nickname in vain, an ignoramus.
      Old Man Makhno such as he sent in Leninist places .
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 12: 11 New
    +3
    Quote: Makhno
    What are you, scattered, all so evil?

    Ha, we are evil yes laughing
  • Vlad 1965
    Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 12: 11 New
    +4
    Makhno UA
    Бандеровцы,а чего вы такие поголовно глупые?"Вы не допускаете мысли что он может сработать применительно к России? Че ж вы , рассеяне, все такие злые?[/quote]
    Неужели такие как ты думают,что Запад вас использует только в ваших интересах и для вашего"процветания"Глупость родилась поперед тебя самого?
    1. Makhno
      Makhno 29 August 2013 12: 21 New
      -4
      Quote: Vlad 1965
      Makhno UA
      Bandera, why are you so completely stupid? ... Stupidity was born before you?

      По твоему комментарию сразу видно "поперед кого глупость родилась" Причислять к "бандеровцам" только за то, что человек украинец, это ли не верх глупости? У меня как-то хватило ума не назвать тебя"власовцем", не смотря на то, что они воевали против советов под вашим ТРИКОЛОРОМ. laughing
      1. Vlad 1965
        Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 12: 34 New
        +4
        Makhno UA
        "Причислять к "бандеровцам" только за то, что человек украинец, это ли не верх глупости? У меня как-то хватило ума не назвать тебя"власовцем", не смотря на то, что они воевали против советов под вашим ТРИКОЛОРОМ."

        For you personally, I am Ukrainian, but I can’t stand such fools like you and your kind.
        We brought Nenko almost to the state of RUIN, so now with the stupidity of being born earlier than you yourself, you are throwing yourself at Russia.
        You answered a little higher -Ukraine without RUSSIA, ZERO on the geopolitical map of the world.
        Romania, the impoverished backyard of Europe nibbled a piece of territory from Ukraine, what are you smart about here, about Russia ??
        1. Val_y
          Val_y 29 August 2013 12: 56 New
          +1
          What are you getting started with him, he’s a troll, a question about Syria, and the possibility of keeping Eurasia from turning into a melting pot, and trolls and hamsters think that if something abroad helps them, and if there isn’t europ, it will burn in the furnace, and there will be no escape, (everywhere there will be a boiling war of Shiites with Sunnis, Alawites with Basmachi, etc. in their cross-selling little souls and does not respond to their brains, there are only 30 pieces of silver in the eyes.
          1. Vlad 1965
            Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 13: 07 New
            +1
            Trolls and hamsters ... that’s right here for sure, they have no brains, and ambitions, a carriage and a small cart, all sorts of rubbish.
            At one time I had seen enough of this rabble of goat-bearded Basmachi in Chechnya, because you can’t explain to these hamsters what it will be like, this flock of pathological killers break through, at least to our Caucasus, I’m not talking about CRIMEA, where the Wahhabi bastard of the Crimea Tatars , has long sniffed with ukronatsikami.
            And these two crazy breeds, in their heat, burn everything that they reach, and in this case, ASAD deserves full support and respect more than ever, the more rabble dies in Syria, the less this rabble will remain on our lot.
        2. Makhno
          Makhno 29 August 2013 12: 59 New
          -4
          Quote: Vlad 1965
          For you personally, I am Ukrainian, but I can’t stand such fools like you and your kind.

          negative Ясно, вопросов к неадакватным юзерам не имею, ибо сказано " не уподобляйся глynцaм, не вступай с ними в спор"
          1. Vlad 1965
            Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 13: 02 New
            0
            Makhno, did you quote something about yourself?
            I don’t mind, give the fool Makhno a word, he will so recommend himself that it will become clear to everyone who he is.
            1. Makhno
              Makhno 29 August 2013 13: 27 New
              -2
              See my previous post. I have not forgotten how to read, or do you need to chew everything and put it in your mouth?
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 29 August 2013 12: 52 New
        +2
        There are no ukrov and there was not. We are one people. We are not evil - we are fair. Do not you know.
        Something Kars does not go on air.
      3. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 29 August 2013 12: 56 New
        +1
        Do not disgrace our country with your comments!
      4. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 29 August 2013 13: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: Makhno
        they fought against the advice under your TRICOLOR.

        They fought under the Nazi swastika. And the use of the Russian tricolor is simply a propaganda step. The traitor has no homeland
        1. Vlad 1965
          Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 13: 50 New
          0
          Absolutely correct remark)))
      5. Dober
        Dober 29 August 2013 14: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: Makhno
        Причислять к "бандеровцам" только за то, что человек украинец, это ли не верх глупости?

        Нет, ещё не верх. "Верх" это когда "бендеровцы" визжат о своей изначально-природной самостийности.
        "под вашим ТРИКОЛОРОМ".
        Well, firstly, not quite OUR, rather the flag of the Netherlands merchant fleet. But this question is we together must ask someone else.
        А во-вторых. Когда у "Моск-алей" уже был стяг, что было у Украины. Татарский бунчук из конского хвоста. Может если не Россия и "звали" бы тебя сейчас Степан-Али-Заде, и писал бы с турецким акцентом. И это в лучшем случае. Возможно и вот так - nezalezhna אוקראינה.
        Подумай на досуге. И другим в "лесной схрон" передай. Вместе со снискерсами. Ведь сала и горилки у вас своих уже нет...
  • Army1
    Army1 29 August 2013 13: 23 New
    0
    Quote: Ruslan_F38
    Такое впечатление что сша обиделись, что об них "вытерает ноги" Россия, причем постоянно и решили поиграть мышцами. Но реально напасть ан Сирию духа уже не хватает. Надеюсь что повыеживаются и отвалят. Ну а если нет - последствия для сша и их союзников будут плачевные.

    Unfortunately, the process has begun and hardly anyone will stop them, I believe in the power of Russian weapons, but it is in the hands of the people who serve the United States. I am not against Putin; he, surrounded by enemies, is really hard for him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD_IEQFAU3A
    The name is ambitious but don’t be too lazy to look, GDP is trying to clean the country from 5 columns, the Russian Federation is still not a sovereign state since the 90s. All laws adopted to this day on what the New Russia is built, everything went through the US State Department. Unfortunately, a forceful solution to the problem is needed. Putin’s hands are tied. And the people, not understanding the essence of the matter, blame him. The worst is happening now, and only the population can do anything. All the pathos that we will not abandon Syria are a bluff. And do not wait for something special.
    http://www.19rus.info/news/95132.html
  • a52333
    a52333 29 August 2013 10: 28 New
    0
    So the Egyptians did not close the same Suez turns out? It’s sad. Although, there you can get from the Persian Gulf.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 29 August 2013 10: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: a52333
      So the Egyptians did not close the same Suez turns out? It’s sad.

      And why should they block Suez? They now have enough problems without a channel, I don’t think that, against the backdrop of the actual civil war, they would also like to get from the Americans.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 10: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: Vladimirets
        And why should they block Suez?

        Yes, with Egypt it is not yet clear which side he will take. Infa contradictory goes
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 29 August 2013 11: 17 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Yes, it’s not yet clear with Egypt whose side he will take

          Alexander, hi .
          Everything is clear with Egypt, the previous events with the change of power brought it to the point that the Egyptians did not need anything at all, just to clear their problems. This is controlled chaos. Libya, Iraq, Egypt, as sovereign states, are not capable of any serious action in the international arena, internal problems are much more important.
          1. Val_y
            Val_y 29 August 2013 12: 59 New
            0
            В том то и беда, что понятие "управляемых хаос" стало раскрываться только сейчас, главное, выводы МИД РФ вместе с ФСБ и ГРУ ГШ чтоб сделал, и правильное противодействие организовали soldier
            1. lewerlin53rus
              lewerlin53rus 29 August 2013 19: 51 New
              0
              The problem with Egypt is, in principle, solvable laughing
  • Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 29 August 2013 10: 29 New
    +1
    A lot of shock ships.
    How to force them to retreat?
    1. Krsk
      Krsk 29 August 2013 11: 11 New
      10
      plan number 1 to sink a couple of aircraft carriers.

      plan number 2 to sink both aircraft carriers and destroyers.

      plan number 3 to sink the aircraft carriers, destroyers and still make a strait to them. Stalin.

      That's all ...
      1. tomas.09
        tomas.09 29 August 2013 12: 24 New
        0
        Yes, you just need to drown the tankers which, for any reason, shy away with the aircraft carriers !!! And the group will already have nothing to refuel.
        1. Kavtorang
          Kavtorang 29 August 2013 12: 45 New
          +1
          Tankers (ILC department), together with nuclear aircraft carriers, do not shy away for technical reasons wink
          Откровение №1: на межбазовом или межтеатровом переходе (не суть важно) атомный авианосец идет вообще без боевого охранения. Ибо он шпарит, как король на прогулочной яхте - 30-33 узла круглосуточно. На момент перехода, в не угрожаемый период на палубе и катапультах находятся готовые к подъему немедленно: самолет ДРЛО E-2C/D "Хокай" или "Хокай -2" соответственно, вертолет ПиС HH-60H "Си Хок", дежурная пара "Шершней" (F/A-18E/F) в варианте подвесок ПВО, один злобный РЭБовец в варианте EA-6B "Проулер" или EF-18 "Гроулер". При этом, корабль не слеп и не глух - его мощнейщая АСБУ постоянно принимает данные от всего. что только можно: от спутников, до БПЛА в Афганистане.
          Откровение №2: Если авианосец идет в период нарастания угрозы, то вышеперечисленное находиться в воздухе, а на катапультах стоят две пары "Шершней" - одна сменная ПВО и одна ударная.
          As you can see, neither tankers, nor the near excursion that would form an order.
        2. Krsk
          Krsk 29 August 2013 14: 15 New
          0
          Quote: tomas.09
          tankers to drown which on any there with aircraft carriers shy away


          They’re atomic, they’re like tankers.
  • Vtel
    Vtel 29 August 2013 10: 29 New
    +2
    18 August in the Arabian Sea arrived group of ships in the aircraft carrier "Harry Truman", missile cruisers "Gettysburg" and "San Jasinto", destroyers "Balkeli" and "Mason". In addition to them, in the zone are "Nimitz" and a group of support ships.

    А вот и работа прибыла для наших "Яхонтов", будут потом для аквадрайверов новые экспонаты. Батарея к бою!
    1. VasDA
      VasDA 29 August 2013 10: 41 New
      +6
      So, where are you going? Tighter ... Even tighter ... Here ... Now a little closer to the shore. See what a beautiful background? Here ... Smile ... Now a bird will fly ... fellow
      -----------------
      Ah ... dreams, dreams ... of a photographer ...
    2. slavik_gross
      slavik_gross 29 August 2013 10: 43 New
      0
      По сообщениям СМИ у Сирии 1-2??? батареи "Бастионов" с ракетами "Яхонт", кто знает подробнее? По сути амеры и до сих пор думают…
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 29 August 2013 13: 01 New
        +2
        "Bastion-P" coastal missile system. Two complexes delivered in 2010-2011, with 72 missiles "Yakhont".





        PS right-click on the picture and click open to enlarge.
    3. Sandov
      Sandov 29 August 2013 10: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Vtel
      А вот и работа прибыла для наших "Яхонтов", будут потом для аквадрайверов новые экспонаты. Батарея к бою!

      Shark killer aircraft carriers stayed in Russia? Isn’t it all at the direction of the amers that the EBN destroyed.
      If you stayed, then Amer Khan.
    4. 12061973
      12061973 29 August 2013 11: 45 New
      0
      Soon, September 1, it's time to go to school, at an English lesson, ask the teacher how the diver differs from the driver.
  • kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 29 August 2013 10: 29 New
    0
    so they closed it like?
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 29 August 2013 10: 33 New
      +7
      Egypt closes the Suez Canal and says NO Yankees
      Today at 9: 16vsepoluchitsa146527540
      Tags: egypt, military, usa, suez canal
      News on Newsland: Egypt closes Suez Canal and says NO Yankees
      Everything becomes complicated for Western instigators and instigators of war, worthy of the heirs of the little mustached German. General Abdel Fattah al-Sissi, a new strong man from Egypt, a worthy heir to Nasser and the executioner of the "brotherhood of nothing", the commander in chief of the armed forces, has just announced the closure of the Suez Canal. This blocks the departure of American destroyers in Syria, including their floating supply base.

      The entry of the US military and their minions is currently complicated. However, the United States chartered a refueling tanker for unpunished strikes against Syria. General al-Sissi emphasized Egypt's commitment to a joint defense treaty with Syria. The Suez Canal is a necessary passageway for the assassins of the Arab people, in collusion with some states, including Saudi Arabia. The heirs of Hitler and Goebbels are in great difficulty. Sissy clearly demonstrates his nationalist and independent line. JDD recently released a headline entitled “The General Resists Obama.” Indeed, the Muslim Brother in the White House is naked ...

      Al-Sissi emphasized that Egypt would not become a passageway for attacks by any Arab country, adding that Egypt would not repeat the mistakes of the Iraq war.
      http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1237154/
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 29 August 2013 10: 51 New
        +5
        Egypt respect and respect. You see, they themselves will not burn out in this Amer massacre.
        1. Chicot 1
          Chicot 1 29 August 2013 12: 01 New
          +4
          Quote: Sandov
          Egypt respect and respect. You see, they themselves will not burn out in this Amer massacre.

          Главно, чтобы не сгорели наши туристы, которые продолжают отдыхать в "стране пирамид", несмотря ни на что...

          Photo from an Egyptian resort ...
          1. Sandov
            Sandov 29 August 2013 12: 54 New
            +2
            This is extreme. wassat
            1. Chicot 1
              Chicot 1 29 August 2013 19: 42 New
              +2
              Quote: Sandov
              This is extreme

              Yes! .. And how do you like this option? .. laughing
              1. Che
                Che 29 August 2013 19: 47 New
                +2
                Chicot. Our tourists nafig Muslim brothers crush. wassat Is it real or funny.
                1. Chicot 1
                  Chicot 1 29 August 2013 21: 05 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Che
                  Is it real or funny

                  But hto knows him ... request But it really looks cool ... laughing
                  Quote: Che
                  Our tourists nafig Muslim brothers crush

                  Ours can! .. laughing
                  Quote: Che
                  Chicote

                  Chico. This is not English, but French spelling ... smile
      2. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 29 August 2013 11: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: klimpopov
        Al-Sissi emphasized that Egypt would not become a passageway for attacks by any Arab country, adding that Egypt would not repeat the mistakes of the Iraq war.


        What a news! If this is true, then the amers got a serious problem as well.
  • svp67
    svp67 29 August 2013 10: 39 New
    +1
    Washington sent two aircraft carriers to the Gulf region
    Не дураки. Именно в Персидский залив, а не в Средиземное море. Сразу "убивают нескольких зайцев", имеют не только возможность ударить по Сирии, но и закрыть воздушный коридор между Сирией и Ираном,прикрывают "своих" арабов от гнева Ирана и в готовности перенести удар, без лишних "телодвижений" по Ирану...
    "Варяг" похоже тебе может найтись "работа" на просторах Тихого и Индийского...
    1. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 10: 50 New
      0
      Iran with Syria in alliance?
      If yes, then in the Persian Gulf for divers there will definitely be more beauty, and the fish will be where to nest)
      Seriously, the teachings of the United States, on a hypothetical clash in the Persian Gulf by Iranian forces, showed that the losses of the States will be very large.
      And this makes them scratch their turnips, so as to turn out in order to keep their faces and faces and protect their galoshes.
      I hope that Iran will fulfill its obligations.
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 29 August 2013 11: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Vlad 1965
        I hope that Iran will fulfill its obligations.

        What Iran obligations are they talking about, if not secret? ..
        1. Vlad 1965
          Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 12: 14 New
          +1
          Union agreement between Syria and Iran.
    2. Makhno
      Makhno 29 August 2013 12: 25 New
      -8
      Quote: svp67
      Не дураки. Именно в Персидский залив, а не в Средиземное море. Сразу "убивают нескольких зайцев"

      Well so it’s on Zadornov’s tales, which have all the Americans.
      1. Che
        Che 29 August 2013 19: 32 New
        +4
        Makhno.
        Zadornov’s tales are good for listening to cheer up. And where did you get such bile from? Slavs are not like you. They have a wide soul.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 29 August 2013 19: 37 New
          +5
          Quote: Che
          Slavs are not like you.

          And who told you that he is a Slav? You should not have offended him like that.
          1. lilit.193
            lilit.193 1 September 2013 16: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: Cynic
            Quote: Che
            Slavs are not like you.

            And who told you that he is a Slav? You should not have offended him like that.

            This is not wronged, but rather praised!
  • mirag2
    mirag2 29 August 2013 10: 43 New
    +4
    К сожалению никто нас слушать не будет-захотят разбомбить Сирию-разбомбят.Остановить может только внутреннее неприятие их общества.Вот видел я по 24док фильм об одном козле,который составляя отчеты о вьетконге влиял на проведение ковровых бомбежек(ненавидел коммунистов)-якобы там с американцами жестоко обращались-подтасовывал факты,готовя готовые решения для президента США.Вот и сейчас такая тема.А Обама выберет сценарий исходя из своих предпочтений-что бы сохранить хорошее отношение к себе в американском обществе-а на ООН,Россию и всех остальных ему накласть.Нас сейчас не боятся.А экономических рычагов нет повлиять на ситуацию.Ни воевать из-за Сирии мы не будем,ни в наглую оружие им поставлять.Так,что не нужно воду лить,говоря,что "мы вот ща как треснем гранитами-яхонтами и всех в пыль!".Хотите сказок-посмотрите "Морозко"-красивый фильм,и потребности свои удовлетворите.
    You know an anecdote, such a vulgar one, a man in the mountains got lost, he sees an old man, asks him who you are? He is a magician. Anything I can do. Can you make me rich and young? That is easy-suck. The man sucked .And the old man says, how old are you? Man-50, but what? The old man is such an adult and you believe in fairy tales? Guess what I said?
    I apologize for such vulgarity and disgust, but stupid speculation about a strike on American aircraft carriers, etc. look exactly the same.
    1. svp67
      svp67 29 August 2013 10: 57 New
      0
      Quote: mirag2
      Only the internal rejection of their society can stop it.

      Увы, один из способов ускорить этот процесс - в ответ на их атаку, атаковать их самих, да так,что бы у них количество "200" превысило сотню...за неделю.
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 29 August 2013 11: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        Увы, один из способов ускорить этот процесс - в ответ на их атаку, атаковать их самих, да так,что бы у них количество "200" превысило сотню...за неделю.

        Alas, Sergey, but this is not real. Russia will not enter directly into the conflict (let alone China), and the Syrians have practically no forces and means for this ...
        Возможно, что некоторую помощь Сирии может оказать Иран. Но это именно, что только "возможно, что может быть", но никак не факт...
  • Kavosh
    Kavosh 29 August 2013 10: 43 New
    -3
    Quote: Dmitry 2246
    A lot of attack ships. How to force them to retreat?

    To send several Russian ships closer to them, to our commander in chief through the media to announce that he considers such a cluster of ships as a potential threat to Russia, he suspects that the coalition has a secret scenario of an attack on Russia, and if he doesn’t like it, he will give an order to attack.

    ))))
    1. True
      True 29 August 2013 11: 39 New
      +3
      Но ведь авианосец "Сердюков" еще не достроен.
      1. Makhno
        Makhno 29 August 2013 12: 45 New
        -7
        Quote: True
        Но ведь авианосец "Сердюков" еще не достроен.

        Nothing, they will be frightened of the unfinished, the main thing is to push it to that region. laughing
        1. True
          True 29 August 2013 17: 54 New
          +4
          Do not smear Bandera!
  • Kavtorang
    Kavtorang 29 August 2013 10: 51 New
    +6
    Значит, все таки не только ВКП E-4B но и силы начали перевод в состояние REDCON-1. Наращивание группировки идет полным ходом. А "Яхонты" -хорошо бы конечно, но маловероятно. Вдалбливать в каменный век будут из далека.
    Для справки: состояние экспедиционных сил REDCON-1 означает, что штабные подразделения развернуты до полных штатов, приняли управление всеми силами на ТВД на себя, задействованы все штатные и находятся в готовности к применению резервные СБУ, весь личный состав экспедиционных сил на местах, запасы доведены до полных норм с назначенным резервом, все каналы передачи информации сменили "ключи" и перешли в полностью закрытый режим. Тыловые обеспечивающие подразделения начали межтеатровую переброску средств МТО из резервов первой очереди. Плановая ротация сил на предполагаемом ТВД отменена. Готовность сил к применению -5 минут после получения приказа.
  • Mitiai
    Mitiai 29 August 2013 10: 54 New
    +6
    Assad needs to meet the expectations of the Americans. smile THOSE. if they start bombing Syria, then he needs to retaliate with chemical weapons against Israel. all the same, there will be nothing left to lose.
    1. Dober
      Dober 29 August 2013 11: 17 New
      +7
      Quote: Mitya
      he needs in response to hammer chemical weapons in Israel

      Именно такими словами вчера и было сказано. Даже дата "дератизационных мероприятий" (прогазовки) назначена - с четверга на пятницу. В израиле всю ночь раздавали намордники.
      А сегодня с утра во всех новостях объявили, что Обама-мама "врубила заднюю". Якобы ему похабалить в Сирии не даёт разрешения конгресс. Как будто его предшественников это останавливало....
      Communication do not notice?
      The Jews besieged the possessed mulatto. So they believed Assad.
      Может им ещё чего "пообещать"?...
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 29 August 2013 12: 57 New
        +3
        Dober promise to personally kick our ass with amerikas. It’s the most. am
    2. svp67
      svp67 29 August 2013 11: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Mitya
      Assad needs to meet the expectations of the Americans. THOSE. if they start bombing Syria, then he needs to retaliate with chemical weapons against Israel. all the same, there will be nothing left to lose.
      NOT ONE TIME ... This is NOT to be done ... The objects of attacks should be only bases and ships ... But if of course which of the missiles deviate from the course, then it is a pity, but the population of those countries where the bases will be located should understand, you have to pay for everything ...
    3. kostyan77708
      kostyan77708 29 August 2013 12: 37 New
      0
      It seems to me that everything will be so, unfortunately (the residents have nothing to do with it) ....
    4. Makhno
      Makhno 29 August 2013 12: 49 New
      -4
      Quote: Mitya
      then he needs to answer with a chemical weapon in Israel. there’s nothing to lose anyway

      And thereby send many of your compatriots living there to the forefathers? Wow advice, truly immeasurable kindness of the mysterious Russian soul!
      1. Vlad 1965
        Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 12: 55 New
        +3
        MAKNO.
        Mysterious Russian soul?
        So everything is not mysterious, but simply a howling rabble to Russia, even though he once fled from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, the UNION in general, has nothing to do with his compatriots anymore.
        On the Internet-resources, Israeli citizens howling-barking-whining at Russia, cursing it for everything and everything, rampart, so what kind of compatriots are they7
        Кстати и ты таковские"соотечественник",30ку тут что ли отрабатываешь?
  • Kavosh
    Kavosh 29 August 2013 11: 06 New
    -1
    Another option: our ship to sail to Syria, release a couple of missiles in a deserted place ...
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 29 August 2013 11: 18 New
      +3
      Aha-aha ... To the Negev desert.
  • dimon-media
    dimon-media 29 August 2013 11: 41 New
    +3
    Why is the UN needed? For receptions and parties? without hesitation, the direct text says
    Washington will decide on actions in Syria regardless of the work of UN inspectors investigating the facts of the chemical attack.
    I think the comments are unnecessary. Mattresses unilaterally abolished the UN spitting on the international community and international law.
  • Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 29 August 2013 11: 47 New
    +7
    It would be better if they were sent to the bottom in the Gulf ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 29 August 2013 12: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: Chicot 1
      It would be better if they were sent to the bottom in the Gulf ...

      Well, for this, Syria and Iran should have such a trump card in reserve
  • Vlad 1965
    Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 12: 13 New
    +4
    Quote: Makhno
    Quote: Sandov
    Infinitely this gangster structure cannot exist, it must collapse. 2 the law of thermodynamics should work

    You do not allow the idea that it could work in relation to Russia? What are you, scattered, all so evil?

    А вы бандеровцы ,чего такие поголовно глупые?Запад вас для чего использует,ради процветания что ли,или так,пушечным мясом как всегда?"лавры похороного венка"дивизии СС Галичина,ни о чем не напоминают?
  • rks5317
    rks5317 29 August 2013 12: 58 New
    +2
    There was an urgent need to supply Iran with the S-300 and the Bastions ...
    1. TUNISIA
      TUNISIA 29 August 2013 13: 35 New
      +2
      Washington sent two aircraft carriers to the Gulf region

      Well, why huge meteorites explode over Chelyabinsk and at an altitude of 30 km, and not over American aircraft carriers and at an altitude of 5-7 kilometers? Where is justice in this world?
      1. Makhno
        Makhno 29 August 2013 14: 25 New
        -6
        Quote: TUNISIA
        Well, why huge meteorites explode over Chelyabinsk and at an altitude of 30 km, and not over American aircraft carriers and at an altitude of 5-7 kilometers? Where is justice in this world?

        This is a no brainer, because you are positioning yourself as a God-chosen people, and Russia as a God-chosen country. So get greetings from the Almighty, as proof of your God's chosen people!
        1. Che
          Che 29 August 2013 19: 43 New
          +1
          This is a no brainer, because you are positioning yourself as a God-chosen people, and Russia as a God-chosen country. So get greetings from the Almighty as a proof of your God's chosen people.

          The elect of God is not for us it is for the Jews. Wrong address. Not a Slav.
      2. Che
        Che 29 August 2013 19: 38 New
        +2
        Tunisia. A little lower. A little bit. laughing
  • Kavtorang
    Kavtorang 29 August 2013 13: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: rks5317
    There was an urgent need to supply Iran with the S-300 and the Bastions

    Unreal. If the flow of events unfolds, the region will be rigidly blocked and at the same time destabilized. And I do not observe enthusiasm on the part of the ruling corps of the Russian Federation (except for the on duty populist verbiage of our lunatic Führer), but there was more than time.
  • spirit
    spirit 29 August 2013 13: 41 New
    +1
    "По данным опроса Ipsos-Reuters, около 60% американцев выступают против силового вмешательства США в Сирии,

    yeah, 800 killer gas chambers have already been rebuilt for them)
  • Makhno
    Makhno 29 August 2013 14: 19 New
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    Quote: Vlad 1965
    MAKNO.
    Mysterious Russian soul?
    So everything is not mysterious, but simply a howling rabble to Russia, even though he once fled from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, the UNION in general, has nothing to do with his compatriots anymore.
    On the Internet-resources, Israeli citizens howling-barking-whining at Russia, cursing it for everything and everything, rampart, so what kind of compatriots are they7
    Кстати и ты таковские"соотечественник",30ку тут что ли отрабатываешь?

    Так ты ж "украинец", сам об этом писал, выходит все что ты напостил-как раз о тебе, из Украины сбежал, продался и тявкаешь, отрабатывая 30-ку
    py.s. To argue with you is too lazy, and I do not want to become like fools, entering into an argument with them.
    1. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 14: 37 New
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      Oh, and you are stupid Bandera.
      She is the motherland alone, but such jackals like you tore her in 90.
      Nothing, Russia is all one, there will be ONE, but you and your zapadents, from among the fools who do not recognize kinship, will need-we WILL NOT GLAXAX, we will not kill, but we will make you and your intoxicated companions bark, against Russia.
      So for now, gnaw at the skin of a toad in the form of green confetti in a size of 30 ku, but do not poke at the Russian site with a pro-Western foolishness.
    2. Che
      Che 29 August 2013 19: 52 New
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      Quote: Makhno

      Так ты ж "украинец", сам об этом писал, выходит все что ты напостил-как раз о тебе, из Украины сбежал, продался и тявкаешь, отрабатывая 30-ку
      py.s. To argue with you is too lazy, and I do not want to become like fools, entering into an argument with them.


      Only Troll under the mask of Rus can freeze this. There can be no such people in Ukraine. I can't believe it.
  • Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 29 August 2013 16: 13 New
    +3
    Откуда этот Махно вылез, небось с Западной Украины. Настоящий Нестор Махно родился в Гуляй Поле а там у меня живут родственники и у них совершенно другие отношения к России и к бандеровцам. Так что "Махно" сьезди туда и поделись своими мыслями тебе быстро мозги вправят.
  • mark7
    mark7 29 August 2013 22: 43 New
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    Quote: Makhno
    So get greetings from the Almighty

    You are all angry, well
  • Bezarius
    Bezarius 30 August 2013 11: 21 New
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    It seems that we transported anti-ship missiles there ... Interestingly, with the help of them it is possible to sink an aircraft carrier? :)
    1. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 11: 28 New
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      I read somewhere that one GRANITE, the destroyer is drowned, is guaranteed. In this case, a couple of Granites or Yakhonts, aboard an aircraft carrier, will put it out of action anyway.
      There is a video in Yu-Tube where the result of getting our rocket on board the target ship is shown, is very impressive.
      1. Kavtorang
        Kavtorang 30 August 2013 17: 57 New
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        Is there no way to think with your own brains, or is this not our method?
        "Гранит", гарантированно эсминец не топит, есть такое математическое понятие - вероятность поражения, и парами они не летают, теоретически можно. Практически-этого никто не делал.
        Without touching the abstract white horses in a spherical vacuum, I can say that drowning an aircraft carrier is not very easy.
        An aircraft carrier never comes ashore, at a range of coastal SCRC firing, he will be cared for and nurtured by ships of the military security order - freeing him from such trifles as a couple of boats or the noise of a diesel boat or some kind of kamikaze decided to dash
        с "Экзосет" на подфезюляжной подвеске в безполетную зону.