Mediterranean squadron will not remain without shore

At the bilateral talks with the Lebanese leadership, the possibility of entering the ships of the Russian Navy to the port of Beirut was discussed. About this with reference to an unnamed diplomatic source told Interfax-AVN. At the same time, the logistics support point of the Navy in the Syrian port of Tartus remains at the disposal of Russia.

“On the possible business visits of Russian ships to the Lebanese Beirut there is an agreement of the two parties. For the recent service of the Baltic ships in this port has already been paid. The visit was made possible due to earlier agreements reached by our ships of Beirut starting this year, ”the agency's interlocutor informed last week. The issue of payment is resolved. “Pilot services, berth rental, the cost of electricity, fresh water and food are paid separately,” the diplomat explained. At the same time, he stressed that it is not a question of abandoning the PTEC in Tartus or searching in the Mediterranean for new bases. “Tartus remains in the same status as the home base of Russian warships. We will be able to continue its full-fledged operation after the normalization of the situation in this country, ”the official said.

Earlier, a military diplomatic source told Interfax-AVN that naval ships due to the escalation of the conflict in Syria instead of the Syrian port of Tartus will have to replenish supplies in the port of Beirut. “The sharp escalation of the armed conflict in Syria and the speculation around the visit by Russian warships of Tartus force us to look for safer ports for their business visits. It is determined that one of these is located in the Lebanese Beirut. The corresponding work is already underway, ”said the agency interlocutor.

At the exercises that the naval forces conducted in January of this year in the Mediterranean, our ships went to Greece, Malta and Tartus to bunker. So, it’s clear that the Mediterranean squadron, which is supposed to appear in these waters on a permanent basis in 2015, will not remain without a coast.

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[klimpopov]

The sharp escalation of the armed conflict in Syria and speculation around the visit by Russian warships of Tartus force us to look for safer ports for their business calls. It is determined that one of these is in Lebanese Beirut. We are already working on the corresponding work, ”the source said.

They are not allowed into our ports, we are also forced to look for others.
Cram into the Mediterranean Sea the most, so that it is crowded.
And in the Persian Gulf, a couple of AUGs of America are drowned for pro forma.
Ah dreams ...

[Alexander Romanov]

force us to look for safer ports for their business calls.
More secure After a strike on Syria, a Hasbola will freak at Israel.

[Vlad 1965]

Dolbanet, rightly so.
The whole of Bl.Vostok, which has been feverish for a decade from the presence of artificially grown ulcers.
There is no way to live in peace, so Israel stares at a war like a cockroach when attacked by dichlorvos, what kind of ideology?
? There was someone to take an example7

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

It seems to me that in the light of the statements that have been made so far, Egypt can fuck up Israel if it engages in the Syrian conflict, at the same time it fights off protest moods, with such an attractive idea for Muslims to destroy Israel!

[bulvas]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

, Hasbola fucking in Israel.

and Israel will have a legitimate reason to clean out hezbola and all the bearded that will be near

[DEfindER]

Quote: klimpopov

And in the Persian Gulf, a couple of AUGs of America are drowned for pro forma.
Ah dreams ...

Drowning is not a problem, the problem is different, the amers will immediately use nuclear weapons against us .. as was the case with Japan after the pearl harbor .. Still, Stalin asked during the Korean War whether we could sink the Amer aircraft carriers, the designer said that it’s elementary, but Minister of Defense Vasilevsky and Beria said that it is absolutely impossible to do this because amers will immediately strike a nuclear strike at Moscow. Actually after this, Soviet air defense began to develop ..

[INVESTOR]

Interestingly, mattresses would make a similar decision for their fleet ????

[domokl]

Money solves everything. Strategists from Washington broke. And our fellows. You need to solve problems quickly and with as much headache as possible for a potential enemy

[Alexey M]

It’s time for the base on the Mediterranean Sea to make the crisis in Europe the time. Yes, you can even land on the base even for the former socialist camp. I think the Hungarians and the Bulgarians would not refuse, but the Greeks would not mind renting a place.

[ale-x]

Have mercy. Which Hungarians, which Bulgarians? They were friends with the USSR, reluctantly. And now they need to "shake up" hard to understand the situation. Their governments are not dreaming about us these days.
Sincerely.

[zart_arn]

Learn the geography, Hungarians with Bulgarians on the Mediterranean, the Polish city of Budapest, damn it!

[buzuke]

speculations around visiting Russian Tartus warships are forcing us to look for safer ports for their business calls

what the hell speculation? all the speculators in the garden! but to think about security - that's right, we must strengthen the presence of special forces at the base

[Vlad 1965]

For me, Russia, it is vitally necessary to have both a squadron in Sedizemiz, and basing posts.
Better not one.
And here I recall CYPRUS, okay there the West warmed up our nouveau riche, robbing dough, but the politicians didn’t have enough mind, since CYPRUS got into the pit, just buy it, with all the consequences, England, robbing for more than a century, it has a base that prevents, prevented Russia, to have a base there, in exchange for help?
In the world now everything is like that, who pays, he dances "girl"

[Papakiko]

Quote: Vlad 1965

In the world now everything is like that, who pays, he dances "girl"

Min Herz forget the more important argument, who is stronger and more prepared who determines the price, girl, time, etc. Even if shaved people pay Cyprus for utility bills and services, and no land for renting land, they will not be asked from Cyprus.

[Pit]

Tartus remains in its former status - the home base of Russian warships. We will be able to continue its full operation after the normalization of the situation in this country

Somehow it looks like the fact that our ships will not go to Tartus any time with all those who stick out ...

[AK-47]

Tartus remains in its former status - the home base of Russian warships. We will be able to continue its full operation after the normalization of the situation in this country

The author did not confuse anything.

... Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Syrian Arab Republic Walid Al-Muallim. ... recalled that back in the days of the USSR, an agreement was signed between Syria and the USSR on the provision of preferences to those ships that enter the Syrian port and this concerned the provision of repair services for these ships. And this does not apply to their deployment.

... since then the contract has not been revised.

[Pit]

Quote: AK-47

since then the contract has not been revised.

I would very much hope that it will be so. But at the moment, doubts creep in somehow that they will do everything not to fall face down in the mud and not to lose their poses. The loss of Syria, and hence Tartus will be for us not only a kick in the ass, but also a fall in the face in de ..mo.

[Vtel]

At bilateral negotiations with the Lebanese leadership, the possibility of calling the ships of the Russian Navy in the port of Beirut was discussed.

Urgent to place our squadron in the port of Beirut - Syria is not far away. And underwater hunters run, let the Yankees get nervous.

[common man]

Guys, have we already declared war on America?

Quote: Vtel

Urgent to place our squadron in the port of Beirut - Syria is not far away. And underwater hunters run, let the Yankees get nervous.

You wouldn't get so hot. It is necessary to help Syria, no one argues. But like this, "... to attack the American fleet with our Navy ...". Overkill already.

[Vtel]

No one spoke about the attack, but the presence and assistance in tracking targets will not hurt.

[Hudo]

Navy ships due to the escalation of the conflict in Syria instead of the Syrian port of Tartus will have to replenish stocks in the port of Beirut. “The sharp escalation of the armed conflict in Syria and the speculations surrounding the visit by Russian warships of Tartus force us to look for safer ports for their business calls.

And really! Nonsense that the lap belt cannot be tightened, the most important thing is that the trouser belt is left out. Where the Navy’s ships have a place right now is in Tartus.

[Kavtorang]

Sorry, Dear, talk nonsense:

Quote: Hudo

Where the Navy’s ships have a place right now is in Tartus.

This is the place where forgive the pun, they now do not have a place. It would be nice to read about the status and location of 720 PMTO. This is part of the Syrian naval base and will be punched for sure, but for a couple of broken-down floating peers, they will apologize. Like, it happened - equipment malfunctions.

[Hudo]

Quote: Kavtorang

This is the place where forgive the pun, they now do not have a place.

The Navy is a MILITARY Navy, an instrument of politics, and not tsatski like Sevres porcelain which must be wrapped in matting and sprinkled with shavings.
Sincerely.

[Kavtorang]

Well, yesterday the discussion was about politics: "Moscow" to Venezuela, "Varyag" to Australia. Our Pacific Fleet BODs are planned for Aden. That's the whole policy and the whole tool.
Your proposal: to stand up to the defense of brotherly Syria with your chest - no, thank you. Nobody interferes with you, and the crews of the ships - have pity. After the sinking of the Kursk, nothing happened in the world? Why now something will happen if a floating workshop or a large landing ship accidentally goes to the bottom? There are a couple of countries that have been at knives for fifty years, right up to torpedoing warships and uniform sea battles by boat forces - nothing happens, only corpses are counted.
Regards, mutually.

[Hudo]

Quote: Kavtorang

Your proposal: Breastfeel in defense of fraternal Syria

Where did I make such a proposal, do not specify a quote? The very presence of a sobering effect on demented democrats, and any manifestation vigilance weaknesses are interpreted by them in their favor.

Quote: Kavtorang

Well, yesterday the discussion was about politics: "Moscow" to Venezuela, "Varyag" to Australia. Our Pacific Fleet BODs are planned for Aden. That's the whole policy and the whole tool.

In this case, why would such an instrument of politics surrender, capable only of "friendship" visits (with whom ???) to make and sweep the cigarette butts and wrappers from chewing gums in the ports of different Papuans and to enchant port whores with vests with bell-bottoms?

[Kavtorang]

Oh, and I do not like empty chatter, but you wrote above in the post - our ships are there (in Tartus) the very place. Why? Is it "temporary" to protect rusty floating boats, coastal sheds of the corporate Soviet style? And if not, then we are talking about covering an alleged ally with the fact of presence. So, or did I come up with something?
A couple of weeks ago, here were the memories of an officer who had been in such a skin when they gave intelligence and expected that every second they would get on board so much that they only had time to say "Mom". Then it was lucky, the mattresses did not dare, but then the flag on the ship was different and the country was somewhat different.
About the Navy, as a policy tool in the implementation of the current leadership of the Russian Federation - this is not for me. I have brought you the latest plans and facts. On my own behalf, I can add that calculating, together with colleagues, just a year ago, the consumption of the Varyag's motor resource and the BOD for all this nonsense - we cried in chorus.

[Hudo]

Quote: Kavtorang

And if not, then it's about covering up an alleged ally by the fact of presence.

This is what is being discussed.

[Kavtorang]

I understand your idea. With all due respect to you, no. I will not go there myself, and fortunately it is too early for my son to go further than the yacht club and by all means I try to convince him not to plan his life with reference to military service. I do not believe a single word of the Russian leadership. Even if a crew is recruited from the half-liquidated Zarnitsa fanatics and this crew will lie there along with the ship or ships (God forbid, of course). The country's leadership will wash its hands: "... What's with the boat? - She drowned ...".

[Papakiko]

Quote: Kavtorang

This is part of the Syrian naval base and will be punched for sure, but for a couple of broken-down floating peers, they will apologize. Like, it happened - equipment malfunctions.

This vokurat cannot be allowed.
If you didn’t want to support an ally, then you wouldn’t be able to develop a resource of ships and generally send ships in the Mediterranean Sea.
So it is clear from everything that the Mediterranean squadron, which should appear in these waters on a permanent basis in 2015, will not remain without a coast.
From these lines, it also expires that Tartus will be.

[1712]

It is for such "failures" to take and in response a couple of times "shmalnut". It won't seem a little ...

[DEfindER]

Quote: Kavtorang

This is part of the Syrian naval base and will be punched for sure, but for a couple of broken-down floating peers, they will apologize.

They’ll kill her if there aren’t our ships, and if there are ships, then any missile span within a radius of 100 km, direct aggression against Russia with all the consequences, the presence of our fleet there would just prevent the war ..

[Kavtorang]

Well, you still suffered. ... 100km, the presence of a fleet ...
Yes, read the same militaristic you are our protocol of the agreement. B ... yes how much is possible !!!
THIS IS NOT A MILITARY BASE, with all the ensuing consequences from the so-called. international and maritime law. This PMTO - refueling, supply, minor dockless repairs. And no one will directly attack the ship at the pier - the ship has sovereign territory (according to the naval command and control regiment), and the PMTO doesn’t. PMTO - the territory of the host state. And if the ship in the PMTO fell under the distribution, this is a problem for diplomats, not the military. What is direct aggression? What are the consequences? A couple of grievances about anything at the UN Security Council? Yes, they will apologize, maybe with compensation, but no more.

[DEfindER]

Quote: Kavtorang

THIS IS NOT A MILITARY BASE, with all the ensuing consequences from the so-called. international and maritime law. This is PMT

And what of this, did I say that an empty PMTO cannot be bombed, I spoke only about our fleet whose presence will not allow this bombing.

Quote: Kavtorang

And if the ship in the PMTO fell under the distribution, this is a problem for diplomats, not the military. What is direct aggression?

But here I didn’t understand you at all, but what then is aggression if the bombing of a warship is not it? Those. if we bomb an American ship, for example, in some port not even a PMTO, is this not aggression?
Any sailor will tell you that approaching a warship on duty at sea is an act of aggression ..

[a52333]

I agree. and then something smacks of the surrender of the Russian Federation to Syria.

[Net]

The sharp escalation of the armed conflict in Syria and speculation around a visit by Russian warships to Tartus force us to look for safer ports

I immediately remembered the phrase of Marshal Akhromeev, who, looking at Gorbaty's surrender of our positions in Europe, bitterly joked: "Maybe we should ask in advance for political asylum in neutral Switzerland?"

[King]

the base in Tartus must be enlarged and troops and modern weapons should be introduced to protect it. and give the order to shoot down everything that flies in a radar of 3 thousand km then the ardor of NATO warriors to bomb Syria would fall below the plinth

[Kavtorang]

Do you understand the difference between a military base and a PMTO? In short, the military base has extraterritoriality for the period of its existence and with rare exceptions (and the exception is again only in Russia, for example, in Sevastopol), the state in whose territory the WB is located cannot go into questions of the number of military personnel, the number of equipment and issues who and what is doing there.
PMTO is under the jurisdiction of the state-owner of the territory. Intergovernmental agreements clearly spell out how many and for what reason.
In relation to 720 PMTO - the supply of fuel, water and consumables to the ships of the 5th (Mediterranean) squadron, as well as minor repair of ships by the personnel of the Black Sea Fleet floating workshops.
All. What kind of troops and modern weapons in FIG? What orders to shoot down in FIG. Wake up.

[Kowalsky]

That is, Russia is already preparing to agree that it was exiled from Syria. How is it in Putin's way. Got a spit in his face and wiped himself off.

[svp67]

Quote: Kowalsky

That is, Russia is already preparing to agree that it was exiled from Syria. How is it in Putin's way. Got a spit in his face and wiped himself off.

This so far suggests that we are preparing for various developments, including one in which a restricted area for flights and passage of ships will be established around Syria. Then for help it will be possible to use the ports and bases of Lebanon ...

[svp67]

Quote: Kowalsky

Got a spit in his face and wiped himself off.

Yes, it does, but at least he is trying to do something and has his own opinion, and is not trying to please both ours and yours ... as your politicians do.

[svp67]

At bilateral negotiations with the Lebanese leadership, the possibility of calling the ships of the Russian Navy in the port of Beirut was discussed

we would have a few more airfields ...

[Guun]

It’s unsafe for ships in Tartus, so one of the ships of the Russian Navy will be sunk and filmed as a bearded English saboteur, under skillful make-up, mowing a ship under the Arab man - what will we get in the end? Those who yell that the fleet needs to be in Syria would then instantly shout that in vain the fleet would have been brought there by fools and off the president. And the fact that the port of Beirut is very close to Syria.

[Per se.]

The British sat and are sitting in Gibraltar during all wars, including when the war in Spain was going on. "The sharp escalation of the armed conflict in Syria and speculation around the visit of Russian warships to Tartus are forcing us to look for safer ports for their business calls," - so we will dance around and around Tartus? The security and development of the base will not collapse on their own, the Syrians could have gone on to expand our possessions on the coast long ago, welcoming our military presence. No, there will always be his own Anglophile Vorontsov, who will lobby the interests of the United States and England in the Russian government, finding a million reasons and dangers against the base in Tartus.

[svp67]

Quote: Per se.

The British sat and sit in Gibraltar in all wars, including when the war was in Spain

Why, there was a civil war in Spain, they were sitting there when the Second World War was going on, and Spain was an ally of Germany, and then when England and Spain became NATO members ... This is the place they will leave the last ...

[Per se.]

Quote: svp67

This is the last place they will leave ...

Whoever doubts, the motto of Gibraltar "Nulli Expugnabilis", which is from Latin - "The enemy will not drive us out". For three hundred years, the Spaniards have been trying to return Gibraltar, seized by Britain in 1704, with the Utrecht Peace Treaty of 1713 imposed with the assistance of France. Such, here, the British. If not for the assassination of Paul I, which took place not without the assistance of England, Malta then could well become not only a naval base for Russia, but also its overseas territory. Now there was a chance with Cyprus, but ... It is a pity that we are being outplayed, in other words, they have long and successfully been kidding us, including the prospect of expanding the PMTO to a naval base in Tartus, in general, our presence in the Mediterranean Sea, all Russian military construction. Such is, as they say, life.

[Stiletto]

Quote: Guun

It’s unsafe for ships in Tartus, so one of the ships of the Russian Navy will be sunk and filmed as a bearded English saboteur under skillful make-up mows a ship to sink under an Arab - what will we get in the end?

As a result, we get a real and legitimate opportunity to mow the fuck with all available means and bearded, and under them make-up. And under the pretext of protecting their bases to create a no-fly zone not only over Syria, but also over the entire warhead.
There is no gain without risk of loss. But warships, for a minute, are needed not only to demonstrate the pennant in Australia and in Papua. They are designed and created to protect and ensure the national interests of the country, including (and first of all) where it is especially hot.

[ale-x]

Everything is true, however, it turns out that the time has not come yet. And will it come ......?

[UV58]

Why are they needed then in the Mediterranean ???

[kwazarik]

Yes, there will be no conflict, Putin had a meeting with Obama, most likely there will be an exchange: Russia and China do not announce the creation of their financial space (replacing the Western financial system), and the West does not openly attack Syria. If an agreement succeeds, the Russian Federation and China will wait for a new suitable case for a statement, while the United States will continue to quietly spoil the Middle East

[Grbear]

Lord! Have you ever played chess?
Remove your figure from under the blow and do not weaken the position - that’s where the skill is!
A "carcass" on the embrasure - no mind. Moreover, if the carcass is not its own.

Now it's your turn, ogres.

[Ryzhikov]

Russia merges another ally

[Ryzhikov]

Oh normul Beat the newcomers !!! Well, God bless him, I’m not here for pluses. What do you think after the fall of Assad and the arrival of martyrs in power in Syria, the Russian fleet will be allowed into Tartus? NO here they are looking for new bases and Assad is thrown as a waste material SHAME Current who needs such friends who bashfully turn away when they beat a friend

[Kowalsky]

Quote: GrBear

Lord! Have you ever played chess?

Yeah, with such a "game" as now, Russia will soon have one naked king without pieces. Since 91, all they did is get out of the way of the NATO skating rink.

[Kavtorang]

Quote: DEfindER

But here I didn’t understand you at all, but what then is aggression if the bombing of a warship is not it? Those. if we bomb an American ship, for example, in some port not even a PMTO, is this not aggression?
Any sailor will tell you that approaching a warship on duty at sea is an act of aggression.

It is not.
It’s bad that they didn’t understand - they perverted the meaning, they didn’t reach the practical implementation. This is not true, a warship that respects itself as a maritime power is an example of compliance with international law. And did you think the shift of the commanders of the BDK Pacific Fleet was random? Yeah, some allowed themselves to have an opinion in the style of a number of our members of the forum (and yours, including). Just what rolls on the forum, with a bang, does not roll in life. And this was perfectly understood by the operational control officers and officers of other departments, departments and services, who, by chance, were constantly in the OS.
Simpler: You can get tired of hating the damned "americos" here. Call upon their heads the great punishment that you may have heard about, demand revenge IMMEDIATELY. But the "defect of fiction" will be zero. For in this country no one needs it.
To bomb an Amerian ship off the coast of Syria - this is for you in the thirties of the XX century - would be a chance.
Now, please, hand the flag, only personally. Hope you run into sobering mode.
Not involving me, other more or less sane officers.
Fight. Restless gnome.
Only themselves or in a narrow collective of limited persons.

[tilovaykrisa]

Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT

It seems to me that in the light of the statements that have been made so far, Egypt can fuck up Israel if it engages in the Syrian conflict, at the same time it fights off protest moods, with such an attractive idea for Muslims to destroy Israel!

In the light of recent events in Israel, everyone can hammer.

[Kavtorang]

Quote: tilovaykrisa

In the light of recent events in Israel, everyone can hammer.

Well, yes.
When, in the extremely tough Arab-Israeli conflict in 1982 (for some reason, it is customary not to notice it between the military, they say, nothing interesting), when Israel already had Jericho-1 in firing positions (though in the version: "Don't wait, me, Mom ... ") and ran in the" Jericho-2 "all were silent. All - all fagots, called the world community.
Yes, I wanted to ask the citizens of the newly-bought independent historical homeland: since what year did Israel officially join the Nuclear Club? Or not yet entered, I'm not me and not my ass.

[kartalovkolya]

No one needs polemics and mutual accusations, the question is about the Mediterranean squadron, and you have started to pi ... and measure again! The main thing is the Russian fleet is in the Mediterranean, and everything else will follow and for sure the GDP knows what it is doing. the peacekeepers "worked back, but this is something! And the Fleet is here, too, in time and on the spot!