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Sochi is trying to say goodbye to migrant workers

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Less than half a year remains before the opening of the 22-s Winter Olympic Games in the southern capital of Russia - Sochi. And the closer the date of the approach of such a grand sporting event, the greater the headache manifested by the local authorities. And the local authorities - this is at least. And higher-ranking officials are concerned with how to simultaneously solve two big problems related to preparations for the Olympics. The first problem: how to finish all Olympic venues at an acceptable quality level in time? Problem two: what to do with the migrant migrant army workers, many of whom have already managed to “settle down” in Sochi and its surroundings?


Sochi is trying to say goodbye to migrant workers


The headache of the Kuban authorities is also manifested because these two problems are closely related. The fact is that if we now begin active work on sending labor migrants who arrived in Sochi, including from the former republics of the Soviet Union, to their homes (not to Adler’s rented apartments and carriages near Krasnaya Polyana), then all the Olympic facilities were erected within the framework of the implemented plan? .. And if you delay labor migrants with the “wires”, then doesn’t it happen that guests from sunny Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Moldova and other countries of the so-called Near Abroad will want to stay not only in quality stve viewers international sporting event, but also as permanent residents of the region? ..

Yes, a whole dilemma for the governor Tkachev, especially considering that according to the most modest estimates, the number of labor migrants in the area of ​​the construction of the Sochi Olympic facilities is at least 60 thousand people, of whom about a third are foreign citizens (with a total population of Greater Sochi approximately 430 in thousands of inhabitants). Here we need to make a reservation that this assessment of the number of so-called guest workers in Sochi gives Sochi ATC. But after all, by no means all foreign citizens arriving at work in Sochi are ready to provide a full range of data about themselves to local regulatory agencies.

The so-called independent statistical services give a figure of roughly 80-90 to thousands of foreign workers alone in Sochi. For objectivity, we average the data provided by law enforcement agencies and data from other statistical offices. It turns out that 50-60 thousand is the approximate number of only citizens of foreign countries who in recent years have arrived in Sochi and its environs in order to find work at construction sites, catering establishments, in the field of tourism business, etc. At the same time, about two thirds of them are persons who work either illegally or semi-legally. Will this army of foreign workers want to leave the place and go "for 101-th kilometer" before the start of the Olympic Games? - serious question.

Today, representatives of the labor department of the Kuban, as well as the leaders of the trade union district committees handed over to contractors involved in the construction of facilities for the Olympics, the following wishes: they were asked to take all possible measures to ensure that all foreign workers employed at their sites left Sochi as soon as the object entrusted to them erected. Simply put: built - thanks - time to go home!

This decision was also discussed in the framework of the regional Security Council, which was also ruled by the Kuban governor Tkachev. Apparently, before Tkachev and set the task quickly and quietly send migrant workers to their homes in the sunny republics after construction. At the meeting, perhaps for the first time in Russia, the very specific term “removal of migrants” was used. Several gives something from the series "tooth extraction" and "removal of kidney stones," is not it ...

But the terms are terms, but what’s more difficult: removing a migrant worker after he completes his work from Sochi, or removing a stone from a sick kidney is also an interesting question ... Not every guest from the same Tajikistan will decide to leave the resort city, especially if the contractor will give him a calculation.

In order to designate the direction of their further actions to contractors now, it was decided at the Security Council meeting: to recommend to building organizations to create registries of all workers employed at their sites (by the way, why wasn’t it done initially? ..), as well as for some of the money earned by foreign workers buy them tickets to the house and solemnly present them when paying the rest of the final salary. If all contractors do exactly as the Kuban Security Council "recommended", then the "removal of guest workers" will be completed in 10-days after the completion of the construction of various Olympic facilities.

It can be assumed that not every foreign worker will be delighted to receive a “van wei ticket”. An impressive percentage of guests from the near abroad will quickly fall to the railway station and the airport in order to exchange it for cash again. How will their contractors convince them not to take such steps? Of course, there will be those who decide not to spend money in the Olympic Sochi, but how many such “economists” will there be? ..

By the way, the Krasnodar Security Council for some reason forgets that thousands of foreigners visiting the region work not at all at the Olympic construction site, but, for example, in the service sector: they are numerous janitors, janitors, porters, dishwashers, cook assistants, waiters, maids, etc. These people do not have any project plans, and therefore the option “prepared pilaf — come on, bye-bye!” Doesn’t exactly fail ... Does the governor Tkachev know the mechanisms for “removing” these migrant workers too? .. Well, if only Farewell to Sochi, to health Moscow! "
In order to control the “removal”, it was decided to break up Big Sochi into separate sectors, each of which will be supervised by a certain group of law enforcement officers. In this regard, another question arises: will not the "curation" of individual sectors of Sochi by specially ordered policemen for this cause a new wave of corruption related to the Sochi objects? Could it be that they will send home those who did not want to share with the “curators”?

After the meeting of the Security Council of the Krasnodar Territory in various parts of Sochi, raids began to uncover the presence of illegal labor migrants in them. Raids take place in the Adler, Khostinsky and Lazarevsky districts. Representatives of the Federal Migration Service are exposed to construction sites in the central part of Sochi. At the same time, many indigenous residents of Sochi express the view that appeals to “remove” guest workers coming from local authorities may be useful to those contractors who do not want to fully pay for their work with foreign workers: he bought a ticket home, gave a penny pocket money - and goodbye, brother ... Not every migrant worker will decide to defend their rights in court, if we also take into account the fact that most of the labor migrants knew perfectly well what they were doing without signing labor contracts.
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  1. domokl
    domokl 29 August 2013 07: 40 New
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    It seems that the problem has just appeared. Migrants, if they work long enough in the region in some part, always remain permanently. You won’t get away from this.
    And the raids ... Don’t tell me. A raid on an Olympic venue is not stupid. There’s control like in a mint. You need to catch, as correctly noted, those who work in housing and communal services, in the service sector.
    1. Ali-gurg
      Ali-gurg 29 August 2013 08: 17 New
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      Quote: domokl
      It seems that the problem has just appeared

      This is a problem, and so is the secret of a half-hour ... everything is very simple: they brought the workers to work and now, under the guise of fighting illegal immigrants, they simply throw deportation instead of salary for money ... everything is very simple and easy.
      1. Dober
        Dober 29 August 2013 12: 36 New
        +3
        Quote: Ali-Gurg
        under the guise of fighting illegal immigrants they are simply throwing money instead of salaries

        And what prevents to throw the same Ryazan or Tambov?
        This is another matter. These "liberated peoples" will not go anywhere, but will wait for the arrival of foreign guests. After all, it’s not comparable in terms of “labor costs” to hump a week on concrete with a shovel or, in ten minutes, “relieve sucker on a sack” or “mobile”.
        But what authorities will like it in front of the whole world. Prevent the "safari" at a time. And so as not to have to clean up several times, they will do it a month before the start.
        In the meantime, "walk the flaw" ...
    2. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 29 August 2013 08: 42 New
      +9
      Quote: domokl
      . Raid on the Olympic object is nonsense

      I agree. Here's more on migrants.
      Federal Law No. 108-ФЗ dated June 7, 2013

      We read the law. Clause 7 of Article 7 of this document states that from the date of its entry into force (June 2013) through December 31, 2018, for foreigners who have concluded an agreement with the Russia-2018 Organizing Committee, “copies of permission to attract and use foreign workers are not required and a work permit for such a foreign citizen or such stateless person or an application confirming the acceptance of documents for issuing a work permit. "
      Translated into normal language, this means the following: quotas for hundreds of thousands, and possibly millions of new slaves, are not required, and official work permits are also required.
      The first paragraph of article 9 of the law states that for the Russia-2018 Organizing Committee and its subsidiaries, for the corresponding 5-year period, "permission to attract and use foreign workers is not required." And if they conclude labor contracts with foreigners “for the performance of work, the provision of services”, you can do it “without notifying the territorial body ... of the executive branch, which carries out law enforcement, control, supervision and provision of public services in the field of migration, public service employment and tax authorities. "
      We translate again. Local authorities, FMS, tax, labor inspectorate - relax. Those migrants who will plow at the World Cup are not in your competence, but exclusively in the competence of their employers.
      In fact, all the same slavery in relation to migrants, as now, but only elevated to the law.
      The eighth paragraph of article 7 of this remarkable law introduces a simplified visa application for volunteers, that is, for those who will officially work for free. And article 10 allows you to attract volunteers and use their work bypassing the FMS, tax and labor inspection on the basis of only an employment contract that they conclude with the employer.
      Articles about volunteers here are clearly prepared for those migrants who are weak in Russian. The task of the employer in this case is only to sign an agreement with such an agreement in which this employee will be called a volunteer. And when he, without looking at it, signs it and demands a salary in a month, poke his nose into this piece of paper - all according to the law!
      Article 11 permits the establishment of an irregular working day for these employees, as well as for employees who work for wages: "FIFA, FIFA subsidiaries, FIFA counterparties, confederations, national football associations, the Russian Football Union, the Russia-2018 Organizing Committee have the right to establish workers whose work is related to the implementation of activities, irregular working hours. "
      That is, plowing 24 hours a day, including at night, without days off and holidays at the World Cup facilities will be a legitimate thing. Article 11 specifically stipulates that: “the requirements for these employees do not apply” to a number of articles of the Labor Code. For example: Articles 113 of the Labor Code (prohibition of work on weekends and holidays), Articles 152 (overtime pay), Articles 153 (remuneration on weekends and holidays), Articles 154 (remuneration at night) ...
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 29 August 2013 16: 08 New
        +4
        Quote: Z.A.M.
        Federal Law No. 108-ФЗ dated June 7, 2013
        I’ll supplement and remind you screaming “URE” of the current Government:

        The Constitution of the Russian Federation
    3. uralkos
      uralkos 30 August 2013 08: 43 New
      +3
      The shift worker himself, and I don’t understand what was created here for the problem. Do not hire visitors anywhere, for violation of millions of fines, up to the liquidation of the enterprise and criminal liability of the owner. Is there really no normal solid men left in power?
      1. mike_z
        mike_z 30 August 2013 11: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: uralkos
        Are there really no normal solid men left in power

        And they were there after Joseph Vissarionych? No, of course normal, only those wishing to snatch.
  2. Denis
    Denis 29 August 2013 07: 54 New
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    And higher-ranking officials are concerned about how to simultaneously solve two big problems associated with the preparation for the Olympics
    The only problem is the gluttony of these same officials!
    They can chat anything, all the more they can. But will they cut the chicken that lays them golden eggs? After all, they all have migrants in some way. It’s enough to recall how and with what thief Moscow construction projects began to fill up with gastrikas. No, he made an honest face and had nothing with them, all this was the business of his successful business wife, but he didn’t in business
    Do you think in Sochi a different situation?
    Most likely only other relatives
    1. treskoed
      treskoed 29 August 2013 08: 06 New
      +9
      I completely agree, the problem was created artificially. After all, what’s easier - migrants only in the North on a rotational basis! And mobilize Russian citizens to the resort region. But the thirst for profit is stronger than common sense!
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 29 August 2013 11: 35 New
        +6
        Quote: treskoed
        After all, what’s easier - migrants only in the North on a rotational basis! And mobilize Russian citizens to the resort region. But the thirst for profit is stronger than common sense!
        And what is your common sense? To which North? They are already here more than deer, there are enough of their own unemployed. Only home !!! I didn’t go to prison like a spy, enough to babysit with them.
        1. Dober
          Dober 29 August 2013 12: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: grafrozow
          They are already here more than deer, their unemployed are missing. Only home !!! Don't go to jail like a spy

          Do you have enough roads and highways there? And in the mines is also the turn for a month? And in some channels "do not feel the need"?
          Arrived to work-let puffed. One offense is deportation after mandatory fingerprinting. The second is a ban on entry for at least three years. Drawn earlier - the same mine but with a deduction to the budget of 25-30%. T.s ADMINISTRATIVE punishment in the form of penalties.
          In a couple of years, there will be no one left or there will be a city garden around ...
          1. grafrozow
            grafrozow 29 August 2013 16: 18 New
            +2
            Quote: Dober
            Do you have enough roads and highways there? And in the mines is also the turn for a month? And in some channels "do not feel the need"?
            laughing What are you writing about, what mines and canals, ten months winter and immediately summer. Do they put bushes on NG? There aren’t enough roads, but the reason is not in the workforce, but in financing, they will have the money and their own. Gazprom in Moscow and he doesn’t care how we live here. Thank you for the Gaster, but let them help you harvest the crop. Our roads .
            1. Dober
              Dober 29 August 2013 23: 16 New
              +2
              Quote: grafrozow
              Thank you for the Gaster, but let them help you harvest the crop.

              Sasha, welcome!
              And you know, if about the crop, then “here” is also the country of “evergreen tomatoes”. Only called Germany. And color gaster no less. Well, you can call me that too. Only the Gaster elite ... laughing
              If you don’t believe, then here’s a very popular portal for Russian speakers -

              meinland.ru/portal.php?mod=list&catid=53

              Too lazy to read - look only at the headlines. You will understand right away ...
              We on such forums basically "warp and dog." About as in. It happens abruptly - moderation without fanaticism.
              For example, here. About stewed potato and generally about grub -

              meinland.ru/thread-2910-1-1-a_chto_u_vas_segodnya_na_obed.html

              But about the roads -

              www.meinland.ru/article-356-1-avtobany_autobahnen_germanii.html

              For this period, the total length of expressways is 12 thousand kilometers. A third of all German vehicles regularly use highways. Funds for the maintenance of motorways are part of the proceeds of the fuel tax. The construction of a highway involves a lot of conditions, from adjusting and coordinating geodetic plans and designing the roadway, to constructing highway maintenance facilities. The average cost of one kilometer of autobahn in Germany is 26,8 million euros.


              Looking at your photo, it’s not even embarrassing and bitter, but simply throws a shiver of insult and anger at those who allow you to mock people like that.
              But the denouement by which I drive to work almost every day. Sam fotkal - the quality is not very.


              Here is another site with roads.
              pisali.ru/faust/2265/
              For comparison. It hippies muddied -
              2

              And this crap - "Moscow-Dobosyaninsky" -
              3
            2. Dober
              Dober 29 August 2013 23: 23 New
              +1
              Not placed. We will be different.
              1. grafrozow
                grafrozow 30 August 2013 01: 11 New
                +1
                Quote: Dober
                But the denouement by which I drive to work almost every day. Sam fotkal - the quality is not very.
                I served in the GSVG, I remember their ways, God forbid we can go on these after 30 years, although I myself won’t live, though my grandchildren will see. I have an old Mercedes, 230th, but I won’t change it for 10 honda, even on our roads I feel man, the apparatus is a beast. And here's another road in the tundra, and like a joke, it leads to Nakhodka, we have a plot there, the quality is not very good, I’ve shot it on a mobile phone, we have a hunt on deer.
                1. Dober
                  Dober 30 August 2013 03: 22 New
                  0
                  Quote: grafrozow
                  And here is the road in the tundra

                  Sasha. I saw different roads. And perched and none.
                  But you didn’t see the “road” in the picture. Even through zoom.
                  Take it higher. THIS IS THE WAY !!! fellow

                  In a metaphysical sense. what
                  And the fact that it’s problematic for a person to move around them, unlike deer, is the fault of HOMO ERECTUS. For so many centuries they have not grown either wool or hooves.
                  And the moss in the bite does not climb ...

                  There you go, bro. Weaknesses are not only in spirit, as it turns out. And also flesh. Alas.

                  Now doper. If in the photo a little joke with Photoshop. In terms of colors. Add red, remove blue, then get Karakum. Hunt "wipe", reindeer hump hook. And "plant" saxaul ...
                  Although also a black spot will turn out ... wassat
                  1. grafrozow
                    grafrozow 30 August 2013 15: 12 New
                    0
                    Quote: Dober
                    But you didn’t see the “road” in the picture. Even through zoom.
                    Take it higher. THIS IS THE WAY !!!
                    I don’t argue, I will, in our direction or winter road, but there are friends there, not to be confused with the "comrades".
      2. Ka-52
        Ka-52 29 August 2013 15: 48 New
        +2
        Only agree with that
        But the thirst for profit is stronger than common sense!


        Sochi and its construction sites were famous for throwing workers! And not only at the Olympic venues, but also in the service and construction of private facilities.
        Where they throw not just Gaster, but citizens of the Russian Federation. While I was working there, all the locals asked me, but are you sure that they will not throw you? winked
        A mess at all levels, and in troubled waters it is easier to catch fish.
        And the prices are more expensive than in Moscow ..
      3. Vladya
        Vladya 30 August 2013 10: 00 New
        0
        Dear, let’s bring them to your place.
  3. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 29 August 2013 08: 13 New
    30
    Gastrika solved this problem at home in 90's in relation to the Russian-speaking population quickly and cheaply, than not a method? or are we not the owners?
    1. Denis
      Denis 29 August 2013 08: 26 New
      +8
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      Gastrika solved this problem at home in 90's in relation to the Russian-speaking population quickly and cheaply, than not a method? or are we not the owners?
      And how much stench will very independent media raise?
      But their work is yapping, it is more important to know by whose command. Who promises to stop and prevent extremist antics?
      That's it! But the police in the markets to beat is not extremism, it’s like that, national temperament
      On whose team during the week the question with gastric can be easily solved at construction sites, does not seek work and does not walk the streets, but loves money
      This is not only in Sochi, it is everywhere, from a small district center and higher, higher, higher ...
    2. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 29 August 2013 09: 28 New
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      Quote: soldier's grandson
      or are we not the owners?

      I think no.
      Was with us "MASTER"(Stalin). And now - PAHAN (Putin).
      Well, it's not the 37th year.
      1. optimist
        optimist 29 August 2013 10: 30 New
        +9
        Quote: Z.A.M.
        We had the "OWNER" (Stalin). And now - “PAKHAN” (Putin). Well, it's not the 37th year.

        By the way, about the godfather ... This fucking putler with his "limpiyada" is cursed by all Sochi. Because of his stupid ambitions and cheap self-PR, the Adler-Sochi coast and the Krasnaya Polyana area were almost ruined. Very sharply reduced the number of vacationers. I'm not talking about just EXTREMELY money wasted. This Olympiad will not pay back even the 10th part of the funds spent on it. Clever Europeans safely brushed off this gemmoroy to fellow Russians, and fellow children are also happy! laughing
        1. Z.A.M.
          Z.A.M. 29 August 2013 10: 48 New
          +7
          Quote: optimist
          Clever Europeans safely brushed off this gemmoroy to fellow Russians, and fellow children are also happy!


          After Sochi, continued - 2018 FIFA World Cup wassat
          On August 1, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree on allocating almost 3 billion rubles for these purposes to several regions from the state budget. But this is only the beginning. Total to prepare for the championship It is planned to spend 660 billion rubles ($ 20 billion at the current rate). And given that in all countries the cost of preparing for such large-scale events usually exceeds (sometimes several times) the declared, it is unlikely that anyone will be surprised if the final cost of the 2018 World Cup trillion rubles.
          Have you heard about our “golden” stadium? The indicative "saw cut grandmas" laughing

          It is noteworthy that (in my opinion) Norway refused to host WINTER Olympic Games. Sane people - counted, thought ... refused.
          1. optimist
            optimist 29 August 2013 11: 08 New
            +6
            Quote: Z.A.M.
            After Sochi, continued - 2018 FIFA World Cup

            Something stubbornly tells me that in 2018 there will be no championship, no gdp and no lady in power ... God forbid to overpower this "limpiyad". Informed people say that it may well not take place: the situation began to change very quickly ...
            1. alone
              alone 29 August 2013 21: 29 New
              0
              optimist you however wassat
          2. alone
            alone 29 August 2013 21: 28 New
            0
            belay 20 billion !! this is just the sum of the budget deficit !! what why do the Norwegians need the winter Olympics? they just spend their money headlong
        2. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 29 August 2013 16: 18 New
          +3
          Quote: optimist
          Because of his stupid ambitions and cheap self-PR
          laughing
        3. Vladya
          Vladya 30 August 2013 10: 05 New
          0
          So also the 2018 World Cup is ahead, here they’ll generally show interest in them, Sochi is just a workout
      2. I am a Russian
        I am a Russian 29 August 2013 11: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: Z.A.M.
        Quote: soldier's grandson
        or are we not the owners?

        I think no.


        "+"

        for an official in Russia, having problems makes a profit.


        It has long been a couple to put the chock back in place and erect a fence around
      3. Winner
        Winner 30 August 2013 19: 50 New
        0
        Finally, at least the young people understand that Stalin is needed. But actually, Kim Jong-un. The court solves all problems in 3 days. And then the thieves and black-ass with apricots are a dime a dozen.
    3. zvereok
      zvereok 30 August 2013 00: 10 New
      0
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      Gastrika solved this problem at home in 90's in relation to the Russian-speaking population quickly and cheaply, than not a method? or are we not the owners?


      Violence is not our method. It is necessary to punish residents, not cockroaches ... Well, in the sense of employers.

      PS: It is to punish, and not close your eyes for a small fraction. And to punish so that no longer wanted. But we have a will, there is a force, but there is no willpower as always.
  4. pinecone
    pinecone 29 August 2013 08: 14 New
    24
    You cannot expel this locust from the Arctic, but even more so from the warm, fertile lands.
    1. Renat
      Renat 29 August 2013 22: 55 New
      0
      This is tochnik. Previously, they sent to penal servitude no further than Tobolsk, and now none of the heat-loving guys can be expelled from the north. Moreover, they are also tearing into power. And not to say that this does not work out for them. I am already silent about markets and trade organizations. And try to go to their homeland at least as tourists.
      As for the Olympic construction, initially the bureaucrats themselves created the problem. scored cheap labor with which you don’t have to stand on ceremony and you can pay mediocre somehow. But what a field for theft.
  5. Forest
    Forest 29 August 2013 08: 37 New
    +6
    As always, create a problem, then torment it by solving it.
  6. Seraph
    Seraph 29 August 2013 08: 50 New
    10
    The problem is not with immigrants. Partly, she is greedy for Russian employers - it’s cheaper to hire, pay less. But to a much greater extent the problem is in the heads and souls of us - we do not want to give birth, we do not want to raise; We want to live sweetly and have fun here and now. Has anyone heard Tajiks or Uzbeks have abortions? But for us only 4-5% didn’t do this .... Naturally, for frantic criticism, we have a lot of wonderful mothers of many children and the situation with Russian demography is improving, but the overall picture is still terrible ....
    1. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 29 August 2013 10: 01 New
      +3
      You Seraphim are right about the first one. Well, then you are too bored - and two and three children it already becomes the norm, at least with us - the so-called zamkadnikami - at least a lot of my friends who are closer to forty. And to increase Sovtava families approach meaningfully (having forgiven all the pros and cons). We do not need to compare us with the inhabitants of Central Asia - for example, we decided to have a third child after we finished building the house more or less and realized our financial independence from our beloved state.
    2. IGS
      IGS 29 August 2013 10: 04 New
      +6
      Can you find out how many children you have? You can scream as much as you like. Try to put on your feet 1, and three. I do not want, like everyone, for my children to live like these migrant workers. Do you know what I ask God every morning when I wake up? To give more time, not because I'm afraid of death, put the children on their feet.
    3. 225chay
      225chay 29 August 2013 14: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Seraphim
      The problem is not with immigrants. Partly she is in the greed of Russian employers -

      Where did you see Russian employers?
    4. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 29 August 2013 16: 28 New
      0
      Quote: Seraphim
      The problem is not immigrants ...
      Well, who would doubt it laughing
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  7. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 29 August 2013 08: 56 New
    0
    The first problem: how to finish all Olympic facilities without exception on time at an acceptable quality level?

    Was recently in Adler for the construction of Olympic facilities. Of course, a lot has been done, but it is also necessary to do, probably, no less! I liked it in Krasnaya Polyana in the Rosa Khutor area. At home, as in the picture, among the mountain river and mountains! Here, the percentage of readiness is very high.
    1. mike_z
      mike_z 30 August 2013 12: 22 New
      0
      Who would argue? The percentage of readiness is very high, that's true! But the prices? !! And how many hotel places have been added there? I found out - the fund grew by 700%, while in Quebec by 15%, and somewhere else, I don’t remember at the 70 Winter Olympics. And in Krapolyan, by 700 !! They are at such prices who are going to settle there after the Olympics? There they could not answer this question. Even the Mountain Carousel director scratched his turnips. Mb here someone will be able to guess. But the fact that the oligarchs are not enough is for sure. Although ... m. Gaster and fill most of these numbers :))
  8. Warrawar
    Warrawar 29 August 2013 09: 56 New
    +1
    And why hasn’t it yet rushed in, the crowd of professional “Russians” and doesn’t squeal in three throats “the Sochi people are completely fucked up, they don’t want to work, they all sit at the offices, so let them not bring whining that they migrated”?
    1. kurtz755
      kurtz755 29 August 2013 17: 30 New
      +1
      And why no one has yet told the world about the "Sochi"? Taschemta in Sochi, for the most part a working-age population by virtue of nat. accessories are not workable at all))))
  9. svp67
    svp67 29 August 2013 10: 06 New
    +1
    Sochi is trying to say goodbye to migrant workers
    - "The Moor has done his job - the Moor may leave ..."
    1. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 29 August 2013 11: 51 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      - "The Moor has done his job - the Moor may leave ..."


      ... yes yes let it go ... away and forever
  10. Andrey from Tver
    Andrey from Tver 29 August 2013 10: 17 New
    +2
    But do not they go to Syria? But how can they stand cancer in Russian cities - they can do it, but how can they help their brothers in faith - “don't understand yours”? Conduct political information, arm and in Damascus. And after the war, they will find work there to restore the country.
    A joke, of course. Though ...
    1. Denis
      Denis 29 August 2013 10: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Andrey from Tver
      But do not they go to Syria?
      They are illiterate, but not so dumb, cunning
      Recently, they wrote about the most competent and coolest Tajik special forces, and who guards the Afghan border?
      What does Syria have to do with it, you have to carry bricks, a solution of revenge or sweep
    2. zvereok
      zvereok 30 August 2013 00: 15 New
      0
      Are they Sunnis or Shiites? Well, in the sense of who will help? Ato look help and back bearded with sacred lice will come over, help. Let it be better to go home.
    3. mike_z
      mike_z 31 August 2013 12: 31 New
      0
      It’s a sensible joke! This is the way out of the situation! If only our “teplushki” missed the Turkish railway. Not by air ... :))
  11. erased
    erased 29 August 2013 10: 20 New
    +3
    In general, it will be fun. I don’t know what the arbeiters will do, but they may very well score for work if they think that they will not be paid. And worse - go and get money in another way. The authorities themselves created the problem. At first, she did not pay attention to the illegal migration of foreigners since 1992, then she milked the commerce who used illegal immigrants and others, and now she’s screaming - how can it be! And so! That's all, they invaded Russia, mainly Moscow. And now they don’t just dump it like that. And taking into account the fact that these same illegal immigrants are working not only in the shopping arcade, but also in a taxi, in the housing and communal services, I can do so much dirtyness if I wish - I can’t do it in five years. And if they decide to make noise, there will be a lot of blood. And the noise from the West.
    The government itself has planted this mine, only ordinary people will disentangle as always. His blood will pour out when the gaster starts buzzing. But the authorities, as always, do not give a damn.
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 29 August 2013 10: 24 New
      +5
      Quote: erased
      The government itself has planted this mine, only ordinary people will disentangle as always. His blood will pour out when the gaster starts buzzing. But the authorities, as always, do not give a damn.

      Our authorities are occupied with another important matter, they are not up to the people. They are building a great and wonderful "Eurasian Union", an empire with Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan.
    2. zvereok
      zvereok 30 August 2013 00: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: erased
      The authorities themselves created the problem.


      I have long noticed the methods of power. To create a problem, to get money from it while the people are tormented, and then solemnly solve it or pretend that they started to solve it before the election. And where did this problem come from, in 6 years the people will forget already.
  12. mark7
    mark7 29 August 2013 10: 30 New
    +1
    There will be a forceful solution to the problem from above, everything will be cleaned up as in the 80th and everything, the police will be brought from all over the country
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 29 August 2013 10: 38 New
      0
      Quote: mark7
      There will be a forceful solution to the problem from above, everything will be cleaned up as in the 80th and everything, the police will be brought from all over the country

      It would be nice if so, but across the country .... just can not believe it.
    2. Denis
      Denis 29 August 2013 10: 43 New
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      Quote: mark7
      There will be a forceful solution to the problem from above, they will clean everything
      Then you have to start!
      Only start with the most democratic 5th column so that they do not stink, otherwise they love ...
  13. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 August 2013 10: 46 New
    +1
    You just need to make the next summit or some kind of sports Games somewhere in their homeland, in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, etc. To give them work again and ... they will all remain in their historic homeland. Do not let back (see to Russia).
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 29 August 2013 11: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      You just need to make the next summit or some kind of sports Games somewhere in their homeland, in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, etc. To give them work again and ... they will all remain in their historic homeland. Do not let back (see to Russia).

      Yeah, and the construction of facilities will probably provide the Russian budget.
      This is an incomprehensible pomposity in the Olympics, Europeans don’t spend money on it. In Baku, they try all the expensive complex events at home, it’s clear that it doesn’t pay off, but you can understand the authorities there, not everyone has heard about Azerbaijan and will find it on the map, but here what do they want ??? About Russia and Russians, most in the world know that it’s stupid to prove that everyone here doesn’t bear bears together, if there is a category of people who thinks that the country has presented the world with such a great number of great writers, scholars, etc. in fact, it’s useless, even if you have held the Olympics a thousand times if a person has such an attitude to think, he will think so.
      As such a category of people who sincerely thinks that the entire budget of Russia is being consumed by the Caucasus, they will be too lazy to go in and see how much they spent on the Bolshoi Theater, how the stadium in St. Petersburg is growing in price and much more. They have such an installation.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 29 August 2013 11: 14 New
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        I agree. But the solution must be sought.
  14. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 29 August 2013 11: 01 New
    +1
    the author is confused by the term removal of migrants? I propose another-sanitation, with French-recovery.
  15. ler666
    ler666 29 August 2013 11: 01 New
    +1
    The problem is solved this way. Police outfits come out on Sunday (since on Sunday they go to the seaside and to the shops) and Cossacks, stop ALL, there are documents, no documents, TAKE CARE! Adler became less Dzhamshutovskim.
    BUT I have near two houses are building Gaster. The teaching staff arrived 4 times they could not cope (they just call) they are building on, of course, these houses have no relation to the Olympic facilities! The outskirts are crowded, in the center is no longer there, that is, the face is in order and the ass is the ass.
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  17. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 29 August 2013 11: 54 New
    +1
    Kind! And when was this “army" brought in what were you thinking about? Saved? And now for the pills for the "headache."
    1. Dober
      Dober 29 August 2013 13: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Dwarfik
      And when this "army" was brought there

      The question is not without meaning. Concerning the "BORN".
      But in principle, the term "army" is unacceptable. An army is command, goals, subordination, charters, etc.
      There is also a diverse tribe of hordes.
      Rome, Byzantium, the Ottomans also "passed." Where are they now ...
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 29 August 2013 16: 30 New
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        Quote: Dober
        There is also a diverse tribe of hordes.
        Rome, Byzantium, the Ottomans also "passed." Where are they now ...
        ... where the USSR is. Horde was also controlled, and now the diaspora.
  18. Novosib980
    Novosib980 29 August 2013 12: 08 New
    +4
    Quote: Yeraz

    As such a category of people who sincerely thinks that the entire budget of Russia is being consumed by the Caucasus, they will be too lazy to go in and see how much they spent on the Bolshoi Theater, how the stadium in St. Petersburg is growing in price and much more. They have such an installation.

    There are such a majority of people in Russia! I’ll just correct you a little: the Caucasus does not eat the WHOLE budget, but it doesn’t gnaw off a frail piece. This money is not bad to send to the domestic needs of the country and yes - stop feeding the Caucasus! The return is zero, one harm.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 29 August 2013 12: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Novosib980
      This money is not bad to send to the domestic needs of the country and yes - stop feeding the Caucasus! The return is zero, one harm.

      So the fact is that he is not a leader in frail pieces and the money does not settle in the pockets of Caucasians, people don’t see him. Money goes there, a little for the people, the rest is shared with local officials, and the other part with officials from Moscow in the form of kickbacks. Why Caucasians they’re going to neighboring regions to build Olympic facilities, they would like to build them to work near their home. But it’s not profitable to create jobs, it’s easier to rob. And a simple layman thinks that the local people have something from that. I would not go on tour job searches throughout Russia.
      1. Aldar kose
        Aldar kose 29 August 2013 13: 00 New
        +1
        A reasonably reasonable answer. I support your thoughts.
      2. Dober
        Dober 29 August 2013 13: 09 New
        +3
        Let me highlight some places -
        "Why Caucasians ride to neighboring regions build the same Olympic facilities, they would like build them at home work near the house.But it is unprofitable to create jobs, it is easier to rob.A simple layman thinks that the local people have something from this. I wouldn’t have would tour in search of work all over Russia. "
        What do you mean by the phrase CAUCASIAN WORKS?
        I am sure that you and the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs have different interpretations of this "stable phraseology". Maybe neologism?
        1. grafrozow
          grafrozow 29 August 2013 16: 36 New
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          Quote: Dober
          And what do you mean by the phrase CAUCASIAN WORKS?
          I am sure that you and the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs have different interpretations of this "stable phraseology". Maybe neologism?
          Here +++. The Caucasian works at best in the market, and at worst, at GopStopBank. Employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs are in the know ..
          1. vadimN
            vadimN 29 August 2013 18: 23 New
            +4
            Well, in some places they are trying to work, but it turns out like in the old joke: "No matter how you assemble the lisaped, the whole rocket turns out ..."

            http://www.bigcaucasus.com/events/actual/19-07-2013/84789-balykley-0/

            Is a Chechen always right?
            The Chechen Ombudsman Nurdi Nukhazhiev called on the residents of the Volgograd village Gorny Balykley not to succumb to provocations and not to organize riots, as in Pugachev. According to him, the Chechens who beat two unarmed guys, including a legless invalid, before the fractures of the limbs, such god-fearing people that they won’t offend flies. The police, whose slowness today caused the Cossack picket in Volgograd, unexpectedly quickly worked in the district center, and the perpetrators were detained on the way to Chechnya.
            There will be no "Pugachevsky revolt" in Gorny Balyklee. But not because Nurdi Nukhadzhiev, the ombudsman for Chechen rights, called on people not to succumb to provocations. It’s just that in this case, the police, taught by the bitter experience of the Saratov Region and the Stavropol Territory, did not hesitate and promptly detained Chechen workers to lay the gas pipeline. They were already traveling in Kalmykia. A little more, and the participants in the fight would have hid in their homeland, where the Republican Ombudsman always stands behind them, his countrymen are right or not.
            According to the Volgograd media, the midnight brawl near the store was started by Chechen workers in response to the remark of two local guys to behave culturally, that is, to speak quieter and in Russian. The guys walked with the girl, and the visitors looked in their direction and discussed something loudly. At first, they did not respond to the remark, but after a while, when the Gorno-Balakleys were returning, the Chechens blocked their way and beaten those who dared to educate them with bits and pipes. One guy’s arm was broken, another lip was split. The girl raised a cry, to which people ran together and began to separate the fighting. After that, the Chechens sat down in their cars and drove off, intimidating the battered guys with a collision. It is worth adding that one of the injured guys was an invalid with no legs. In addition, there were several times more attackers.
            After the battle, the locals went to the head of the village and demanded, as in Pugachev, to expel the Chechens working on the gas pipeline. By common opinion, Caucasians did it very badly, in places even damaged water pipes. In addition, workers molested the girls and staged brawls.
            Beating guns found, medical reports on the injured are available, Chechens gave themselves away by escape. Why is the Chechen Ombudsman calling all this information, including official reports of the Ministry of Internal Affairs about the detention and seizure of bits, a lie? The fact is that Nurdi Nukhadzhiev relies on the testimonies of the suspects. According to them, local residents themselves provoked a conflict. This is reminiscent of discussions about mini-skirts that lead to rape.
            According to the defender of Chechen rights, some hidden forces are "trying to launch a new scenario of interethnic conflict," using "the same cliches." Somehow it does not fit into the head of the Ombudsman that this Chechen youth, without the supervision of elders, often uses the same methods of reprisal against Russians. In Nevinnomyssk, Viskhan Akayev attacked Nikolai Naumenko with a knife and he died on the way to the hospital. Until the city led by Stavropol nationalist organizations rebelled, they didn’t even look for Chechens. He managed to escape to the mountains, where he is still hiding. In Pugachev, a teenager Alim Nazirov for some reason went to a bar with a scalpel, with which he cut off Tatar Ruslan Marzhanov. In Mountain Balykleya, if the Chechens had knives with them, and not bits, they could not have been avoided either.
            1. grafrozow
              grafrozow 30 August 2013 01: 22 New
              +1
              Quote: vadimN
              Is a Chechen always right?
              The Chechen Ombudsman Nurdi Nukhazhiev called on the residents of the Volgograd village Gorny Balykley not to succumb to provocations and not to organize riots, as in Pugachev. According to him, the Chechens who beat two unarmed guys, including a legless disabled person, before god’s fractures, such god-fearing people that they won’t offend flies
              So we spoiled them ourselves. Until it’s too late, we need to put it in place. You see how they are building in Chechnya, try to hang a poster with us, we apologize to the Russian people ....
          2. Yeraz
            Yeraz 29 August 2013 20: 23 New
            0
            Quote: grafrozow
            Here +++. The Caucasian works at best in the market, and at worst, at GopStopBank. Employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs are in the know ..

            Yes, yes, we are familiar with this. We are all thieves and traders. We do not know how to do anything anymore and in what areas we no longer work.
            1. grafrozow
              grafrozow 30 August 2013 01: 17 New
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              Quote: Yeraz
              Yes, yes, we are familiar with this. We are all thieves and traders. We do not know how to do anything anymore and in what areas we no longer work.
              At least at our construction sites, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Ukrainians ..- Caucasians are not visible, but they are not counted on the market.
              1. Alibekulu
                Alibekulu 3 September 2013 20: 36 New
                +1
                Quote: grafrozow
                At least at our construction sites, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Ukrainians ..-
                You forgot to mention in this list of “Kazakhs” ... request .. laughing ..
  19. paul1969
    paul1969 29 August 2013 12: 40 New
    0
    both the first and the new arrivals - rolled into concrete and asphalt in 8 - 10 layers, what problems, I worked there - I didn’t see worse than the madhouse
  20. Alyoha
    Alyoha 29 August 2013 13: 12 New
    +4
    To expel them, deploy a targeted program in the media, warn them for six months, place their little black faces on all channels and advertising banners, explain that if they don’t leave voluntarily and as soon as possible, they will work for free, they will mine (uranium). The problem with them is swollen, they are not Russian and not even mythological Raseseyants. It is much more difficult and not permitted with the government of Dimon-iPhone, it is with our North Caucasian Scattering people, they have nowhere to expel (only if they are to the Turks, because they know very well what to do with them).
  21. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 29 August 2013 14: 19 New
    +2
    The region is awash with bandits. And who is not a gangster, he will "earn some money" with pleasure ... Tkachev gathered this meeting (and what did the Security Council of our street decide? And the yard? The cats in the garbage can also have such a Council ... I’m waiting for them to announce the creation of their Strategic Rocket Forces) to indicate a problem. Well, that is, so that he doesn’t get in the way of the “slow-witted” federal government when bandits begin to kick workers from construction sites by pushing them with trunks.
    Not enough Russian builders? And do not you go, dear Tkachev with friends (who is building all this? Who are trying to cover his eyes?) With a forest? And there were more than enough builders in Russia, and they would have been built faster and better ... only I would have to pay. And now, payment for work, even taking into account a serious drift of bandits, will come out a hundred times cheaper. In addition, the various bilalov that they are valiantly building there are criminals themselves, and they just need the federal eyes closed. Sharks see time to feed before the Games, huh ...
  22. Slevinst
    Slevinst 29 August 2013 14: 43 New
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    I live in Sochi, guest workers have decreased by an order of magnitude over the past six months, they have almost completely disappeared from railway stations where until recently there were huge crowds, even from the car wash where I am a regular customer, half of the washers went home and not because they started to press but because they know that they will soon be pulled out of the city anyway, this is all to the point that everything is not so scary as in the article, not all objects will certainly be completed, but the main ones will be built and put in order
  23. NOMADE
    NOMADE 29 August 2013 16: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: Slevinst
    I live in Sochi, guest workers have decreased by an order of magnitude over the past six months, they have almost completely disappeared from railway stations where until recently there were huge crowds, even from the car wash where I am a regular customer, half of the washers went home and not because they started to press but because they know that they will soon be pulled out of the city anyway, this is all to the point that everything is not so scary as in the article, not all objects will certainly be completed, but the main ones will be built and put in order


    I understand that I sincerely wish you success, but they didn’t leave with us (the ATS Summit, Vladivostok ....) ... and we met new types of crimes (no offense to the forum users and here to representatives of races and nationalities and this is not a national question) : like a Tajik taxi, rape, robbery near clubs, drugs, etc., a phrase appeared in the new non-official name of Vladivostok - VladivostokBat .. So, it's not so simple, in all respects! (
    1. Slevinst
      Slevinst 29 August 2013 17: 17 New
      0
      we think a lot of things are hushed up, they commit quite a few crimes, I hope all the skyscrapers in the city center that were built on the site of green zones will be demolished and the city will again become normal as in the good old days.
  24. Marek Rozny
    Marek Rozny 29 August 2013 16: 26 New
    +1
    Nevertheless, how our similar states (Russia and Kazakhstan) solve some problems in different ways ... Here is an excerpt from the Kazakhstani news.

    Kazakhstan plans to simplify issuing permits for labor migrants
    Tuesday, 20.08.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX


    Kazakhstan plans to legally simplify the issuance of permits to labor migrants. This was announced by the head of the Department of Migration Police of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Serik Sainov.

    "The complexity of the current mechanism for attracting foreign labor today makes it difficult to attract migrant workers by individuals. As a result, a significant part of migrants from the Central Asian region work illegally in the country. Moreover, they often indicate that they arrived on private business, that is, in guests. In order to resolve this problem, a draft law has been prepared providing for simplified issuance of labor permits for labor migrants for individuals for repairs and chores, childcare, and other services. It is currently being considered by the Majilis of the Parliament, "he said. Sainov.

    The adoption of the law, according to the agency, will facilitate the transfer of migrant labor from the shadow sphere to the legal one, which will increase the effectiveness of control over their stay, as well as attract funds received from them as taxes to the economy. Meanwhile, the stable economic and socio-political situation in Kazakhstan creates the preconditions for foreigners to enter the country, most of whom are citizens of border countries.
    .
    According to him, Kazakhstan is taking measures to improve national legislation regulating migration processes. In particular, the migration police are working on amendments to the laws "On Population Migration" and "On the Legal Status of Foreigners", aimed at optimizing the procedure for entry of foreign citizens into the country. The draft new versions of the Code of Administrative Offenses, the Criminal Code and the Criminal Executive Code provide for increased liability for violations of the migration law.

    Employees of the migration police department control the process of stay of foreigners in the country: their places of permanent and temporary residence and work are checked.

    “For 6 months of 2013, 391 citizens of the CIS countries were registered with the internal affairs bodies, which is 000 percent of the total number of foreign citizens registered with the internal affairs bodies. The largest number came from Uzbekistan - 81, the Russian Federation - 242 and Kyrgyzstan - 000, "said Sainov ...
    "In 2011, police officers identified 2177 employers illegally attracting foreign labor. In 2012, 2013 facts were revealed, and from the beginning of 2013 - 1211. All employers were brought to administrative responsibility, and the foreigners who worked for them were expelled from Kazakhstan," he stated.
    .
    Author: Baubek Konyrov

    http://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/kazahstan-planiruet-uprostit-vyidachu-razre
    sheniy-trudovyim-migrantam-240150 /
  25. kurtz755
    kurtz755 29 August 2013 17: 24 New
    0
    Quote: 225chay
    Quote: Seraphim
    The problem is not with immigrants. Partly she is in the greed of Russian employers -

    Where did you see Russian employers?

    Took off the tongue))
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 29 August 2013 19: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: kurtz755
      Quote: 225chay
      Quote: Seraphim
      The problem is not with immigrants. Partly she is in the greed of Russian employers -
      Where did you see Russian employers?
      Took off the tongue))

      Well, kanesh, Russians are a sinless nation :)))) Can ethnic Russian be a "greedy employer"? :))))) Russians are exceptionally naive, nice people with brown heads and cornflower eyes, and if they do something, it’s purely for the good of strangers, who, as one, turn out to be ungrateful, false and aggressive. And if anyone in Russia turns out to be a vile planter and a greedy official, then this is exclusively Kavkazoshvili, Yevreiman, and sometimes Turkbayev.
      Maybe it's time to sober up? The vast majority of Russian officials and entrepreneurs are ethnic Russians. And it is in their interests to have helpless slaves from neighboring unsuccessful countries, without paying any taxes and without incurring labor obligations to foreign workers.
      If you have opened a company, then you are looking for all the options for reducing the cost of your goods and services - and illegal goners - this is the best option for you as a businessman. When money is said, conscience usually rests. The only question is whether officials are able to create a system in which the rights of their citizens, as well as the rights of foreign workers, are protected. And while the system should work for the economic good of the state. What is there to be wise and look for the guilty (all the more, trying to expose non-Russians as the culprits of the situation)? A guest worker is ready to legalize and pay taxes if all normal conditions are created for him. In Kazakhstan, simplify the life of migrant workers, but at the same time strengthen the responsibility of the employer. This is the only solution that benefits the public. At the same time, Kazakhstanis do not even think of the idea that "guest workers are taking away our work." The realm of gastings is black low-paying power. This suits the Kazakhs more than completely - the logic is as simple as five kopecks: "Kazakhstanis must manage, and non-Kazakhs should work in those niches where Kazakhstanis should not work." Thus, we free fellow citizens from low-paying jobs and encourage them to get education and work experience in prestigious positions. This is actually a state ideology that openly speaks of creating in Kazakhstan from Kazakhstan "a nation that should be competitive in the world labor market." While in Russia they cry about “lost vacancies” for Russians as a laborer or janitor, in Kazakhstan the state sends thousands of schoolchildren and students annually to study at the best universities in the world to implement the concept of “competitive nation”.
      The Russians, I point blank, do not understand your masochistic desire to get rid of Tajik janitors and Moldovan builders ... I would share your concerns if they would squeeze Russians out of more prestigious spheres. For example, in the city hospital of city N, doctors from Tajikistan completely dismissed Russian doctors ...
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 29 August 2013 19: 55 New
        -2
        Quote: Marek Rozny
        . While in Russia they cry about “lost vacancies” for Russians as a laborer or janitor, in Kazakhstan the state sends thousands of schoolchildren and students annually to study at the best universities in the world to implement the concept of “competitive nation”.
        Whose money is it sending to? Fucking wipers for 10000 rubles could not evict Kazakhs from their entrance for two months. agree in zh ... kiss the crocodile, "educated." House at home, put things in order, we'll figure it out. Here are your wipers, in the photo.
        1. Marek Rozny
          Marek Rozny 30 August 2013 11: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: grafrozow
          Whose money is it sending to?

          At public expense. The program is called "Bolashak" ("Future") and has been operating since the beginning of the 90s. The state fully pays for studies, accommodation, flights to the best universities in the world (Russia, USA, Europe, Asia). If in the early 90s several dozens of people were sent, then since 2005 the number of scholars has increased to several thousand people a year. In total, more than 9 thousand specialists have already been trained in foreign universities at public expense, who now work in the public service, in national companies, in science and business within the country. Only less than 50 people in 20 years of the program did not return to Kazakhstan for their own reasons.
          Now a policy is beginning to take effect, aimed at creating a strong educational center in Kazakhstan (for now this is only Nazarbayev University in Astana), and they will slowly begin to train specialists within the country. This moment is still far away, but work in this direction is already underway.
          This is not to mention that thousands of Kazakhstanis study abroad at the expense of other grants, scholarships, or simply at their own expense. My cousin (from the aul!), Who showed brilliant results at a rural school, and then at Kaz.VUZ, entered Harvard University under this program. She has already returned and works in a good position in a large state-owned company.
          In addition, the state offers irrevocable grants and repayable loans for studying in Kazakhstani universities, if the student shows a high result at the final exam of UNT.
          So, hold on, Kazakhs do not study at your expense. It’s enough money.
          Quote: grafrozow
          Fucking wipers for 10000 rubles could not evict Kazakhs from their entrance for two months. agree in zh ... the crocodile to kiss, "educated." House at home, restore order, we'll figure it out.

          Everything is clear with you ... You confuse Kazakhs with other Asians. Kazakhs would not think of working as a janitor in another country. This is the same as saying that the Germans are going to work as janitors in Greece. They do not leave Kazakhstan to earn money, but people go to Kazakhstan to earn money. And imagine, even from Russia. Starting with Barnaul prostitutes and ending with Moscow top managers. For one simple reason - in Astana and Almaty they are paid more than at home. However, there are a lot of guest workers in medium and small cities (here it is usually from Central Asia).
          Quote: grafrozow
          Here are your wipers, in the photo.

          Wipe your eyes. Where did you see a Kazakh in the photo? This is clearly not a Kazakh face profile. Rather, a "European" or a Caucasian Tajik in a pinch.
          1. Marek Rozny
            Marek Rozny 3 September 2013 15: 07 New
            +1
            Hyyyy, I read one Kazakhstani news now and decided to place the paragraph here:
            "Kazakhstan comedian Tursynbek Kabatov refused to play the role of a guest worker in the summer KVN Cup, speaking for the Smolensk Triod and Diode team.

            According to the rules of the game, the champions of the past two seasons take part in the Summer Cup, this time they were “Triode and Diode” and “SOK” (Samara). Each team can invite three KVN stars to their team for participation, among them the guests of the Smolensk cheerful and resourceful team was the player of the Kazakh team Tursynbek Kabatov. Some jokes were written specifically for his role.

            Meanwhile, the artist said that in one of the episodes he was offered to play the role of a guest worker, but he refused. "Then the director of the program took my side, saying that the viewer would not believe that the Kazakh could be a guest worker," Kabatov said.

            ==============
            Kazakhs even in KVN refuse to play the role of guest workers :)))))
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  26. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 29 August 2013 18: 46 New
    -2
    Dear forum users, do you really have a headache about how and who will solve the problem of migrant workers? Who has brewed all this mess, he wonders how to solve this problem.
  27. mark7
    mark7 29 August 2013 20: 44 New
    +2
    this mess across Russia, and not just in Sochi, so ordinary citizens have a headache that is not clear then
  28. sever123
    sever123 29 August 2013 22: 37 New
    +1
    Somehow I watched the news, showed a small town in the Urals, with a population of 25000 people, and 10000 guest workers arrived. For local people, there was no work, in the domestic plan a complete nightmare. All home, together with bureaucrats who allow this!
  29. Grif
    Grif 29 August 2013 22: 57 New
    +3
    A typical case occurred to me once. He worked somehow at a construction site. They gave me two Uzbeks, one old and one young. The task is simple, to sand from the yard to the apartment. The Uzbeks initially confused the floors, but this is not about that. An hour later they got tired, a smoke break. I ask the old Uzbek: Well, they say, came to Russia to earn money? He smiled servilely, nodded: Yes, Russia, earnings, yes, arrived. Well, at the next break I ask: What, go, does Uzbekistan go to Russia? He nodded finely: Yes, yes, Russia, all of Uzbekistan, yes. After another hour, I ask: Well, what do the Kazakhs not go to Russia ?. He looked at me like a patient: Wow, the Kazakhs are rich, why should they go? They are sitting at home! Pride has pierced me. Power ep (I was born there). After another hour I ask: Wait, do you have gas too? The Uzbek blushed and said: Yes, yes, there is gas, there is a lot of gas. I ask: Why are you so poor? He pulled his head into his shoulders, looked around, and in a whisper said: Override like that. I don’t know whether to laugh here or cry.
  30. RUkola
    RUkola 30 August 2013 03: 33 New
    +3
    The task of the Kremlin thieves is simple --- to create a zone of instability on the territory of the Russian Federation, a situation of constant interethnic, religious conflict, and conflict with visitors, create a problem - and then show the Russians that they are supposedly struggling with this (or maybe even not show anything, just to leave the people alone with the problem, as in the stavropol region now, let it get out), because it will be even easier to steal.
    Already directly supported by the cops, the chaos of the Caucasians hints. that it is all waiting for us very soon ---
    Kremlin thieves are in a hurry, very in a hurry - after all, the economy of Uzbekistan is growing (+17%), Tajikistan too (+13%), you will look at Gaster back home, God forbid (Yahweh) stretch.
    It is no coincidence that such fuss has recently been around this - some kind of pseudo-laws are being adopted, pseudo-raids are carried out (for the Vietnamese !!!!), hype on TV, the Internet
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 30 August 2013 11: 53 New
      +1
      By the way, yes. If the Uzbek economy starts real steady growth, it will automatically tighten the economy of Tajikistan. The number of migrants in Russia will begin to decline even without a Russian migration policy. But it will not be soon anyway. At least another 10 years, the Uzbeks need to raise the country's economy, given that they are going to seriously engage in hydrocarbon production in their country (in the Aral Sea). This term is the most optimistic, as it seems to me.
      Moreover, Karimov is not eternal, and I hope that a more pragmatic politician will take the helm, who will be able to carry out all the necessary reforms, and will also take a course towards rapprochement with his neighbors.
  31. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 30 August 2013 08: 25 New
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    Hmm, strange ... if there are such crowds of migrant workers, why are our men from the north luring everyone there? request
    Yesterday, an electrician friend was sent on a business trip to Sochi
  32. sergant89
    sergant89 30 August 2013 09: 51 New
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    Quote: Dober
    Do you have enough roads and highways there? And in the mines is also the turn for a month? And in some channels "do not feel the need"?
    Arrived to work-let puffed. One offense is deportation after mandatory fingerprinting.

    I live in Yamal, and there are plenty of roads and directions, but there are more Gaster than 2 times listed above, thanks to them and "servants of the people" the average salary is about 30 rubles (try to find it again), although in the official media there is a salary in Yamal about 60t.rub, at prices approximately 70-80% percent more than, on average in Russia, work if it is much lower than 30, someone will say what’s there? Who is waiting for me and my family to go, but Kruzak’s administrations and Lexus, and the people working there are sick of our state’s policy, or rather its complete absence e, I’m more and more convinced that only executions will save the country.
  33. darksoul
    darksoul 30 August 2013 19: 49 New
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    Was recently in Sochi .... migrants everywhere, even the indigenous people of Armenia are not so much against their background .... in Sochi if they drive out where they go? To us in Krasnodar ... Moscow was turned from the city, a frenzied number of construction projects, the city is constantly expanding, picking up new territories, Gaster ... to ... well ... since that year I noticed that they began to replace the housing and communal services workers with them in Moscow. .... they are everywhere ..... the city is doing tremendous damage 1. they spoil the architecture with new shit ... but with buildings close to each other and bring here those who are building these buildings ... but buildings ..... in short, the top makes money and for the rest they lay down from a high bell tower
  34. Drakk
    Drakk 31 August 2013 00: 04 New
    -2
    And it would be nice if we could build ourselves, without the involvement of foreign specialists))))
    But no, the colonial empire. They themselves created a problem, now you’re thinking how to solve it.
    One solution, build it yourself.
    1. Uhe
      Uhe 1 September 2013 18: 14 New
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      What are you doing? Such an impression is that the Russians bring migrants here. Look at nat. the composition of the rulers of the Russian Federation and the richest people of the Russian Federation. The most amazing thing is that no one chose them, because the rifle gives rise to power, as Mao Zedong said.

      Well, to the heap. You, apparently, have little idea how many Slavs from Ukraine work in Russia, who work and do not want to go back. In SNT, where I have a summer residence, he lives and travels to construction sites of about 5 brigades. And this despite the fact that local builders also work at full capacity. And no one quarrels among themselves. But Belarusians are very envious of them, who can work in the Russian Federation without restrictions and all kinds of obstacles from werewolves in uniform.

      Finish yours: "here you are, and here we are, and here we are you ...". They have us as they want, while we quarrel. Take an example from your builders working at our dachas: we treat each other as brothers and regret that we do not live in a single state.
    2. svp67
      svp67 9 September 2013 01: 03 New
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      Quote: Drakk
      One solution, build it yourself.
      If all guest workers from Ukraine are returned from our territory, your state may collapse, so pray that they stay with us ...