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If tomorrow is war ...

A person who was at the end of 70-s related to the Soviet electronic intelligence, told me that from the first interceptions of reports on the meeting of the NATO leadership, held after the introduction of a "limited contingent" of troops in Afghanistan (do not make a sensation out of Snowden - nothing new The world did not open), it became clear that the "strategic opponent" was simply happy that the USSR finally "plunged" into war. History Russia includes, among other things, the history of “unnecessary wars”, inexplicable from a rational point of view, conflicts in which Russia engaged in contrary to common sense and which led to disastrous consequences.


Russia very rarely fought in their national interests. It may be because it is often impossible to determine what exactly is its national interest at a particular stage of history. Therefore, she managed to be drawn into war that does not directly or indirectly concern her solely on internal, as a rule, purely ideological motives. In at least two cases, these wars led to “breaks in gradualness” in Russian history, that is, to revolutions, civil wars, and the death of the entire old Russian world.

Russia's participation in the First World War cannot be explained by any other reasons besides ideological ones. Neither Russia, nor, in the end, the ruling house of the Romanovs, close family ties associated with the ruling dynasty in Germany, had any serious reasons for which they had to break into this purely European conflict. But the tsarist government was held hostage to its bid to mobilize the patriotic feelings of the population in the struggle against the threat of revolution. She conducted this mobilization, stirring up Messianic ambitions that were already exorbitantly inflated by Orthodoxy, which were embodied in pan-Slavism. All the abominations of the regime were justified by its special historical mission, which consisted, in addition to the protection of Eastern Christianity, in “gathering the original Slavic lands” under the Russian wing. The more serious was the threat of revolution, the more unbridled became patriotic propaganda inside the country. In the end, the tsarist foreign policy was completely dependent on this propaganda, and when a shot in Sarajevo sounded, it was impossible to evade war. The consequences of this war are well known to all, so there is no need to dwell on this topic.

At the dawn of the Soviet era, history played with the USSR almost the same bitter joke, fortunately not so bloody, although it cost the lives of several tens of thousands of people. There is still no intelligible argument explaining why the Soviet regime needed to send troops into Afghanistan. He was one of the hundreds of regional theaters in which the global Soviet-American confrontation unfolded. If the Americans got involved in this adventure, they most likely would have received the second edition of the Vietnam War two decades earlier. But the nerves could not stand the Soviet leadership, who paid for it with their political life. As in the case of the tsarist regime, the only reason for this military campaign was the ideological narrow-mindedness of the Soviet gerontocracy flowing into insanity. The dogma of communist internationalism, multiplied by paranoid anti-Americanism, made the decision to send troops into the territory of Afghanistan without alternative. I believe that the Afghan campaign prepared the collapse of the USSR like nothing else.

Apparently, two lessons turned out to be little - the Russian God, as you know, loves a trinity. The inflaming domestic situation in Russia creates all the conditions for Russia to enter into yet another “unnecessary war”, in spite of its own interests and with the most serious negative consequences for itself, over the next decade. Today, Russia seems to have disappeared on a global scale from a map of the world. Her greatness exists only in the imagination of Mikhail Leontiev and his followers. But she may well remind herself, and then her foreign policy will be talked about everywhere.

Now Russia does not bother anyone in the world. This is one of the reasons for the stability of the Putin regime - it is actually convenient for everyone. Neither for Obama, nor for Cameron, nor for Merkel, Putin is not a headache (at least, as long as he does not touch gays). Modern Russia has no foreign policy - one appearance. It seems that her only goal is to lobby for olympiads, championships, exhibitions and festivals (after the economic crisis, when everyone learned how to count money, these prizes go to Russia surprisingly easily). There is no foreign policy strategy, except, perhaps, a global opposition to the expansion of the “Magnitsky list”. It’s more profitable for Putin to maintain this status quo, because as long as he remains the “Indian Joe” that no one is looking for, because nobody needs him, he has no other problems other than Navalny. And he hopes to cope with this problem somehow.

But the fact of the matter is that maintaining Putin’s profitable status quo is becoming more and more difficult. Gradually, within the country, the situation is as explosive as it was a hundred years ago, on the eve of the First World War. In an effort to "smash" the map of the revolution, the regime decided to put all its patriotic trumps on the "gaming table". Here and obsessed with Orthodoxy, and getting up from his knees, and collecting the wasted lands, and the Jewish-Masonic conspiracy in a lightweight form (like a conspiracy of foreign agents), and the enemy at the gate, of course. It is easy to nag such a vinaigrette, but it is difficult to eat without choking. The Kremlin becomes a hostage to its pseudo-messianic policy. The great power obliges - it makes boil in the brain inappropriate ambitions, under which for a long time there is no ammunition. Long ago, in terms of its technological development, and in terms of resources, too, in a “third world” country, Russia is aggressively bluffing, playing out of itself a world superpower, whose interests are everywhere. She again seeks to become a gag in every “world barrel”: from the Middle East to Latin America. And she is not at all afraid that the navel will be untied ...

Of course, the Kremlin does not want any war, there are generally gathered sybarites and lifelines, which this hemorrhoids do not need. But objectively, a situation may arise when he cannot avoid it. In the current situation, Putin needs to continuously demonstrate his “toughness”. The matter is no longer in Syria, or in Georgia, or in Ukraine, which in themselves do not represent a big problem. The fact is that by designating all of them as “enemies”, Putin cannot give them anything, since this can be regarded inside the country as an unacceptable manifestation of weakness. If it is true that foreign policy is a continuation of domestic policy, then Putin has no choice but to become a “power addict,” who is waving a club with a bludgeon on business.

And here Putin will be forced from a suitable for all guy to become for world leaders what Monica Lewinsky (as follows from the declassified records of her conversations with Clinton now) called “a needle in the ass”. He will crawl everywhere, be confused everywhere under his feet, but not roll back, as before, at a critical moment ago, but walk along the very edge. I would not be surprised if Russian planes begin to fly in the Syrian sky, and Russian submarines float in Ukrainian territorial waters. One way or another, the general trend is obvious: from now on, Russia's foreign policy will become more and more aggressive with each passing day, it will finally pay attention to itself.

It is unlikely that someone will please in the Kremlin. It is easy to strut into the ghetto, where police patrols have not looked in for a long time. But when it comes to military operations, the spani has to hide in the gateway. The positions of the Kremlin are stable as long as nobody is seriously concerned with them. Observed (so far in rhetoric) trends in Russian foreign policy are objectively suicidal in nature for the ruling regime in Russia. The problem, however, is that, by committing this suicide, the regime may inadvertently kill Russia along with it.
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  1. timhelmet
    timhelmet 29 August 2013 10: 46
    90
    For the sake of commenting on this heresy, he even went to the site under the login (did not plan).
    Nuuuuuuu the author went too far. And how many he took from the ceiling. I can say, wallowing ...
    Comrade Pastukhov is not embarrassed in fabricating: they say Putin, in order to save face, will always now (supposedly forcedly) show strength and rigidity. Both inside and outside the country.
    Immediately the question: "What does the author smoke?"
    Share it.
    Yes, a normal Russian person just needs a STRONG and BOLD. The rags are already sick, there's nowhere to fold. About% cf% and% whether and so many of these points and trusses.
    Let Putin be tough on the Syrian issue! Yes, he will erect a monument for this half the world.
    And the paragraph was especially pleased "It is easy to swagger in a ghetto where police patrols have not dropped in for a long time. But when it comes to a military operation, the punks have to hide in the alleyway. The Kremlin's position is stable as long as no one is seriously involved in it. Observed (so far in rhetoric) trends in Russian foreign policy is objectively suicidal for the ruling regime in Russia. The problem, however, is that by committing this suicide, the regime can inadvertently kill Russia along with it. "
    Indeed, a complete paragraph.
    For such thoughts of the author, first on the count, then tear off the limbs! Izh cho blurted out. Those. as soon as the West realizes that it is time to "seriously" deal with Russia (according to the same author), we, comrades, KHANA.
    South Ossetia in 2008, gas and customs Ukrainian stories, the state armament program, the customs union, ongoing military exercises, Snowden, and much more are, gentlemen, Pampering, for which at the right moment Uncle Sam will do us A-TA-TA. So, comrade Pastukhov?
    Ugh !!!!

    And finally. The source is a Ukrainian resource. Accordingly, not an article, but slop. In Ukraine, in this glorious, landless country, the people are fraternal and dear, but the politicians are D_e_r_y_m_o stinking!
    1. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 29 August 2013 15: 41
      34
      Totally agree with you, extremely disgusting slops. The author is a typical follower of Novodvorskaya, except that he does not yell like a shell-shock, but we kneel down and crawl among the Chukhites for forgiveness in their legs.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 29 August 2013 15: 53
        25
        Read vomit to the end did not.
        1. sub307
          sub307 29 August 2013 17: 30
          +3
          Yes, some kind of crap.
        2. ksan
          ksan 30 August 2013 00: 50
          +3
          Vladimirimets Yesterday, 15:53 ​​↑ New

          Read vomit to the end did not.
          I didn’t read it smile The enemy must be known in person. am
      2. Vlad 1965
        Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 15: 54
        10 th
        Sakhalinets, Vladimir
        Interestingly, why are you so broke?
        uncle squeezed an article, with this, there are objections- "But the whole point is that it is becoming more and more difficult to maintain Putin's favorable status quo. Gradually, the same explosive situation is developing inside the country as a hundred years ago, on the eve of World War I. In an effort to "kill" the map of the revolution, the ruling regime decided to put all its patriotic trump cards on the "game table." Here and the obsessive Orthodoxy, and getting up from its knees, and collecting wasted lands, and the Jewish Masonic conspiracy in a lightweight form (like a conspiracy of foreign agents) And the enemy is at the gates, of course. Such a vinaigrette is easy to tweak, but difficult to eat without choking. The Kremlin becomes a hostage to its pseudo-messianic policy. The Great Power obliges - it makes inappropriate ambitions boil in their brains, under which there has long been no ammunition. of its technological development, and also in terms of resources, to the country of the "third world", Russia is aggressively bluffing, pretending to be a world superpower wu, whose interests extend everywhere. It strives again to become a plug in every "world barrel": from the Middle East to Latin America. And she seems to be not at all afraid that the navel will be untied ... "
        IS IT? Or you don’t know that the whole barking inside one capsystem is just the barking of the owner of the old booth, for the assassination of a pack of mongrel in his bowl. Where have you seen the liberal, since this is a fact?
        And here you are in a position to argue, "Now Russia does not bother anyone in the world. This is one of the reasons for the stability of the Putin regime - it is actually convenient for everyone. Neither for Obama, nor for Cameron, nor for Merkel, Putin is a headache (at least as long as it does not touch gays.) Modern Russia has no foreign policy - one appearance. It seems that its only goal is to lobby for Olympiads, championships, exhibitions and festivals (after the economic crisis, when everyone learned to count money, these prizes are surprisingly easy for Russia.) There is no foreign policy strategy, except perhaps for a global opposition to the expansion of the “Magnitsky list.” For Putin, it is most profitable to keep this status quo, because for now he remains that “Indian Joe ", whom no one is looking for because no one needs him, he does not have any other problems besides Navalny. And with this problem he hopes to somehow manage "IN MY MIND, there is nothing to object, Serdyukov does not sit with madam, and does not sit, as the nouveau riche stole and they steal, though in Belarus, they arrested some of our thief, so the howl is already going on.
        It is necessary to read ATTENTIVELY more attentively, and not to pea comments, they say oh, from Ukraine, then everything is bad at once.
        1. smile
          smile 29 August 2013 17: 01
          18
          Vlad 1965
          Well, yes, yes, yes ... if you isolate the main idea of ​​the author, it turns out, Russia has always been ruled by idiots, and she herself ...
          And Orthodoxy in our country, the wild and warlike and tsarist regime crucified the people, and the Communists went not far and climbed into Agan because of stupidity ... Agan did not bring us anything, of course ... but who came there after? What kind of regime appeared there? How many hundreds of thousands of people are bent over from the Afghan drug?
          And the most important thought is Putin's totalitarian regime, which suits Western puppeteers ....
          Object to you have something-
          1. The author is lying impudently ... lying all over, using separate elements of truth for credibility ....
          2. Russia is already hindering by its very existence, as well as by its independent position ... if it weren’t for us, the Security Council would have sanctioned the humanization of Syria with a missile-bombing method and Assad would have been gone ... If the Elbon policy continued, Russia would also be soooooo reduced to the borders of the 15th century. and on its territory several dozens of entities would be created ...
          But the impressions the author writes about, arrogant, sucked out of the finger, could have arisen in the author in two cases - the money was transferred to him for that reason, but he did not benefit from re-treatment from the NGO, or he serves there .... or from a deep hangover on the ground pathological Russophobia ...
          Tales about Putin’s insignificance, this is nonsense that the distributors of this nonsense do not believe, it can be treated differently, but to call it insignificant .... and the paid people know who the novices and all kinds of novodvorskie would not screech in his direction if he was pleasing to the West or was insignificant ...
          We carefully read this rubbish ... this author didn’t write anything new, the Novodvorskaya says about the same thing .... are you a fan of Baba Lera? Answer, you are our true lover, are you really an apologist for Novodvorskaya, or did you blurt out without thinking? :)))
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 29 August 2013 18: 45
            +4
            Quote: smile
            Well, yes, yes, yes ... if you isolate the main idea of ​​the author, it turns out, Russia has always been ruled by idiots, and she herself ...

            And further in the text. Vladimir hi drinks that's right, laziness itself was to answer a true lover, thanks.
            1. smile
              smile 29 August 2013 19: 26
              +3
              Vladimirets
              Thank you myself! :))) Oh laziness will ruin us ... :))) But really, when you see such a bunch of vomit and imagine that you need to read it, and even refute ... longing ... :)))
          2. INTER
            INTER 30 August 2013 09: 12
            0
            Quote: smile
            if it weren’t for us, the Security Council would have long sanctioned the humanization of Syria with a missile and bomb method, and Assad would have been gone.

            But there would have been a Security Council at all, there is probably no decision in the world that NATO would have accepted without constraint and conscience! The world would look like one big colony with tax collection centers! A person is given the mind to think, think and evaluate soberly without doping in the blood, green (this is how anyone will understand) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes
          3. Vlad 1965
            Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 10: 00
            -1
            SHMULYU.
            I don’t know where and what you singled out there and what place you thought, but as always, you fell into the trap of your own conjectures.
            p1.except your shouts, they say the author of the article is wrong, you did not bring a single argument against you, we take three wars - The campaign of Russian troops to Europe, the same one where Suvorov performed his truly heroic deeds, despite the passivity, and sometimes simply betrayal of "soyuznichkov" Austrians, whose interests Russia was defending there? Did they teach history? Well, then you probably know-ENGLISH, the outcome of the war of 1812, who took advantage of? ENGLAND, you will refute this statement, God help you, do not slip.
            The second war is WORLD 1, are you sure that RUSSIA needed to intervene in this war? For the sake of what and with the complete unpreparedness of the ARMY? Who took advantage of the results of the war, in the end? Russia, or is it still the West, under the auspices of the arrogant Saxons?
            Toretya’s war, let’s take the author’s statement that the Afghan war is allegedly not in the interests, yes, it seems to be not in the interests of a fair number of anti-Soviet and other Russophobic herds. But what’s the interest, in that war, we now have peace on the southern borders ? Doesn’t there in the country of mass consumption of drugs? IS. WHO has lost this war?
            Army? NO.
            POLITICAL MANAGEMENT, of those who were passing the country by then? YES, of course.
            Russia won or lost from such an outcome7 LOSED.
            Will you challenge the above arguments? I read, appreciate, answer.
            2.Russia interferes with its fact of existence, arrogant Saxons, yes, and this is not obvious?
            3. The Putin regime is your expression, well, let’s use the proposed wording.
            What is the system in the country?
            Will you refute that in the country the system of capitalism is at the stage of the initial, predatory, comprador trend? Refute this thesis, weakly?
            Under the rule of Stalin, Russia possessed an independent policy, was absolutely independent in its decisions, already limited during the late Brezhnev, and completely not at all with all these EBNony.
            YOU, claiming that the Putin regime has stopped the rollback of the country?
            Are you able to confirm your idle conjecture?
            An example, from an inclined plane at an angle of 60%, a child’s car will drive off in 1 minute, if the slope is designed in length for such a run.
            But the same little car, from a slope of 10%, will drive down five times longer than in the first case. Take a refute, take a typewriter, after playing enough to write your feelings.
            In general, your answer is completely not consistent.
            They would read something, for example Fursov, S. Kara-Murzu, and then, illiterately indicating even the name of the country, they would indicate who is wrong about anything
            You could neither deny the author of the article, nor me, so talk to yourself with baublers, other representatives of flora and fauna in the form of bulk and dog dogs.
            "We have carefully read this rubbish ... this author did not write anything new, Novodvorskaya says about the same thing .... are you a fan of Baba Lera? Answer, are you our lover of truth, are you really an apologist for Novodvorskaya, or did you blur out without thinking? :) )) "- His Majesty Nikolka according to the account, the devil knows what? Without thinking, they blurted out, or did the ambition leap?
            And the last one, the crock on the chase, there is no reason to insult anyone, with your comparisons sucked from your finger.
        2. Sergey21
          Sergey21 29 August 2013 18: 07
          0
          Come on ...!
          1. smile
            smile 29 August 2013 19: 28
            0
            Sergey21
            Oh, short and clear ... and most importantly, that's right! :))) In my opinion, you got the most successful answer. :))) +
        3. an_ursus
          an_ursus 30 August 2013 05: 26
          0
          How are you? ... What is the weather like in Bern? ...
      3. slava7075
        slava7075 29 August 2013 16: 34
        +4
        you look at his face and involuntarily you will remember Novovodvorskaya for sure. and most importantly, how cunningly wrote the pier and there is no need to get in and you do not get in because you are worth nothing. political "slut" this author
        1. Per se.
          Per se. 29 August 2013 18: 45
          19
          Quote: slava7075
          you look at his face and involuntarily remember Novovodvorskaya
          Novodvorskaya is cooler.
          1. chehywed
            chehywed 29 August 2013 18: 56
            +7
            Quote: Per se.
            Novodvorskaya is cooler.

            Ahem. Ahem. Did you shoot it yourself? lol
            1. smile
              smile 29 August 2013 19: 33
              10
              chehywed
              Do you think that he took it ... for ice cream on a stick? :))) Yes, noooooo, Sergey is a normal guy .... :))
              This is the woman Lera came to report to the American ambassador how to go about the fight against the regime ... here .... she sits, eats the fee .... she looks into the ambassador's eyes ... scowls, not otherwise ... :)))
              1. chehywed
                chehywed 29 August 2013 19: 53
                11
                Quote: smile
                Do you think that he took it ... for ice cream on a stick?

                Yes, I had no thoughts in suspecting him of THIS !!! Moreover, he has an iron alibi from Baba Lera ...
                1. Per se.
                  Per se. 29 August 2013 20: 10
                  +7
                  Well, guys, amused. I myself borrowed footage from Novodvorskaya once at the forum, and I just want to say here - "Eh, Lera, it's not an Eskimo happiness ... (Are you crazy, but what else?)".
                2. an_ursus
                  an_ursus 30 August 2013 05: 28
                  +1
                  Good agitation. Bookmark ....
          2. alone
            alone 29 August 2013 20: 06
            +8

            Dear Sergey! at least you would have warned the people before putting this.

            what a disgusting face)))) wassat
            1. hommer
              hommer 29 August 2013 21: 59
              +3
              Quote: lonely
              Dear Sergey! would you at least warn people before setting this


              Indeed, Sergey, it’s impossible! request - without warning. Just reading comments, I was eating ice cream.
              I had to throw it away ... laughing
              And the article is vile, to match the erysipelas of Novodvorskaya.
      4. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 29 August 2013 20: 16
        0
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Totally agree with you, extremely disgusting slops. The author is a typical follower of Novodvorskaya, except that he does not yell like a shell-shock, but we kneel down and crawl among the Chukhites for forgiveness in their legs.


        Rave. He would also call the war of Ivan III unnecessary.
    2. yan
      yan 29 August 2013 16: 03
      +4
      I discovered for the sake of the name, the analysis thought that there was something new about technologies, the social component, but here there are solid "communicating vessels". About nothing.
    3. Amur
      Amur 29 August 2013 16: 14
      +5
      Russia's participation in the First World War cannot be explained by any other reasons than ideological. - Vladimir would write right away that the Russians started the First World War, because they didn’t agree on the concepts with Kant, with a certain person he is considered a moral being ...
    4. Su24
      Su24 29 August 2013 16: 35
      +4
      The history of Russia includes, among other things, the history of “unnecessary wars”, rationally unexplained conflicts, into which Russia got involved contrary to common sense and which led to catastrophic consequences.


      Afghanistan is very easy to explain from a rational point of view: this is Russia's movement to the South, to the "warm seas". The strategic mistake was not the entry of troops into Afghanistan, but their withdrawal with a humpback, like all his other decisions.
      1. chehywed
        chehywed 29 August 2013 18: 27
        +4
        At some point, I got the impression that I was reading "old Bzhiz", and already returned to the beginning. No, not like him. Maybe they were drinking together the day before?
    5. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 29 August 2013 18: 37
      +5
      Mr. author of the shepherds - you are just some kind of endon.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 29 August 2013 21: 20
        0
        [quote = Ruslan_F38] [quote = Ruslan_F38] Mr. author of the shepherds - you are just some kind of Mr. Don. [/ quo [/ quote]
        Yes, perhaps not some. Darned.
      2. Straus_zloy
        Straus_zloy 29 August 2013 22: 57
        +1
        And if a person is Mr. Don, then relations with him are strained
        1. alone
          alone 29 August 2013 23: 24
          +1
          sorry rubber band. compare shepherd. and shepherd not pull
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 29 August 2013 23: 30
            +2
            Quote: lonely
            shepherd's not pull
            let him go to a parade to some parade. There they will pull ... Putin will seem to him for happiness.
    6. AVV
      AVV 29 August 2013 21: 17
      +1
      Now it’s clear where the legs grow from !!!
    7. aksakal
      aksakal 30 August 2013 00: 40
      0
      Quote: timhelmet
      And finally. The source is a Ukrainian resource. Accordingly, not an article, but slop. In Ukraine, in this glorious, landless country, the people are fraternal and dear, but the politicians are D_e_r_y_m_o stinking!
      - Stop, teamhelmet, I don't agree here! Although I gave you a plus, I apologize, it was too good a post to be pushed aside. Just look at the links that I provide: http://vz.ru/opinions/2013/8/28/647478.html, there is still a lot of such nonsense, and on the very pro-Russian resource "Vzglyad". Output? There is no need to reassure yourself that such things are published on Ukrainian resources. Here is a splash of publications "a la but what the hell do we need to fight for this Syria?" occurred throughout Russia, even on the most official and completely pro-Russian sites. On the first channel, a picture of Syria will certainly show a burning T-72 tank or a tanker running out, burnt and burning from the same Russian T-72 tank. The text on the channel is, of course, pro-Russian, but the video sequence is terribly annoying, therefore it puts some kind of association in the subconscious. In short, all those Liberoid journalists who did not hide - remained liberoids. But this episode also revealed those who were "encrypted", printing completely pro-Russian materials, and then suddenly on! and zababashil article. "Why should we fight for Syria? The States are right, because they are strong!"
      Guys, write down such zhurnalyug, the time will come, you can take them by the gills and ask in Stalin's way: "and with what purpose did you publish this material at that time?"
    8. k1964
      k1964 30 August 2013 03: 23
      0
      Let Putin be tough on the Syrian issue!
      trends in Russian foreign policy are objectively suicidal in nature for the ruling regime in Russia.

      I especially liked it ..
      that’s why I don’t want to say ... I don’t know, maybe I’m not right, but what Putin did for the country,
    9. an_ursus
      an_ursus 30 August 2013 05: 24
      0
      Wonderfully "hit"! .... Fables of the survivors of the mind of Alekseeva's grandmother, McCain's grandfather ... Send him to hell ...
  2. makst83
    makst83 29 August 2013 13: 36
    10
    Wow wow wow, easy uncle! Mushrooms were not taken by chance, fly agarics or grebes with psilocybin !? I thought raving ..... but when I saw who he was and where he got it, I understood everything - a Russian lawyer, lawyer, publicist, professor St. Antony's College, Oxford University .... Liberalom smelled!)))
    1. not good
      not good 29 August 2013 19: 41
      +2
      This is not a liberal, but something viciously slobbering, Novodvorskaya and even less ugly (over there repeat top comment)
    2. matross
      matross 29 August 2013 20: 20
      +3
      Quote: makst83
      Russian lawyer, lawyer, publicist, professor St. Antony's College, Oxford University.

      Right ready diagnosis!
      Quote: makst83
      Thought delirious.

      And they thought right. Under the Union, the Fifth KGB Directorate was once diagnosed with such. And on haloperidolchik! wassat
      And now squeezes articles without qualified medical care ... laughing
    3. an_ursus
      an_ursus 30 August 2013 05: 35
      +1
      Moreover, naphthalene ...
  3. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 29 August 2013 15: 33
    +4
    Quote: makst83
    Yes, a normal Russian person just needs a STRONG and BOLD. The rags are already sick, there's nowhere to fold. About% cf% and% whether and so many of these points and trusses.

    Where was he so strong and brave when Libya was torn? Or Dimon did not allow sniffing?
    1. Andrew-001
      Andrew-001 29 August 2013 19: 42
      +4
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      strong and brave
      doesn't mean stupid. I personally feel sorry for Gaddafi and his people, but they themselves flirted with the West. And saving someone who decided to commit suicide is a futile business. he himself will die and take a lifeguard with him. So no matter how sorry they are, but Libya and Gaddafi got what they were striving for.
      With Syria, the situation is different - Assad is our consistent ally in that region.
      1. tomas.09
        tomas.09 29 August 2013 20: 31
        +1
        At least Gaddafi with his people remained, did not fly away, and fought until the last. Just like Saddam, just like Milosevic !!!
      2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        NOBODY EXCEPT US 29 August 2013 23: 33
        -1
        Do not tell me when he managed to become our ally?
  4. a52333
    a52333 29 August 2013 15: 38
    +4
    Now Russia does not bother anyone in the world. This is one of the reasons for the stability of the Putin regime
    I am losing weight with such ANALYTICS. Whatever the word, to the point.
    Russia is aggressively bluffing, playing the part of a global superpower whose interests extend everywhere.
    And this is generally strong!
    One way or another, but the general trend is obvious: from now on, Russia's foreign policy will become more and more aggressive, it will finally draw general attention to itself.
  5. Arabist
    Arabist 29 August 2013 15: 45
    +1
    With such a surname, he does not need another profession as in the field, and not in analytics. The liberal is worthless.
  6. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 29 August 2013 15: 48
    -6
    Quote: timhelmet
    South Ossetia in 2008, gas and customs Ukrainian stories, the state armament program, the customs union, ongoing military exercises, Snowden, and much more are, gentlemen, Pampering, for which at the right moment Uncle Sam will do us A-TA-TA. So, comrade Pastukhov?
    Petty fuss in his garden. In foreign policy, they listen to us, nod, but do it their own way. And a-ta-ta, it’s easier for us to make steamed turnips; oil is dropped in price, that's all. It’s just not profitable for them so far. For now, they will finish off Syria and Iran, and all the same, the US natural monopoly on hydrocarbons survives. You understand our perspectives ...
    1. chehywed
      chehywed 29 August 2013 18: 41
      +3
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      In foreign policy, they listen to us, nod, but do it their own way. And a-ta-ta, it’s easier for us to make steamed turnips; oil is dropped in price, that's all. They just so far it is not profitable


      Why are you repeating someone's nonsense? Who will drop the prices? OPEC? They are not enemies to themselves. Or will the whole world suddenly stop production? And if they even decide to freeze without gas, so that we can annoy? Well then, all the khan.
    2. Andrew-001
      Andrew-001 29 August 2013 19: 51
      -1
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      ... to drop oil in price, that's all. It’s just not profitable for them yet.

      Oil will rise anyway - it has such a property. It’s somehow on the planet less and less and give it, as you suggest, at cost (i.e. for nothing) - there are no people who want it.

      And I’ll bring your phrase into greater conformity with reality (my changes are highlighted in capital letters):
      And a-ta-ta, for them we make it easier to steamer turnip- oil DOLLAR drop in price, that's all. Them US is simply not profitable for now.
  7. My address
    My address 29 August 2013 15: 48
    +1
    What's this? The author proposes to give foreign policy to DAM? And the key to the apartment, where is the money, hu-hu, not ho-ho?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 15: 54
      +2
      Quote: My address
      What is that?

      These are consequences of alcoholism, called delirium tremens. hi
  8. Harmony
    Harmony 29 August 2013 15: 56
    +2
    Shepherd, who do you work for?
    1. alex13-61
      alex13-61 29 August 2013 16: 33
      0
      Quote: harmony
      Shepherd, who do you work for?

      And I won’t tell you ...
  9. Avenger711
    Avenger711 29 August 2013 16: 00
    +8
    Indeed, some 1000 years in power, they do not know what to fight for. And where to all of them, who expanded the territory of Muscovy by millions of square meters. kilometers to modern "experts". And in WWI RI really got into a mess, not because of some revolutions, without a war, the revolution would have been simply postponed for 5-15 years, but because Nicolas the Bloody was no longer the owner in his country, but whoever lends, orders music.

    Do not tell about the Kremlin’s position. From the point of view of strategy, there are simply no countries in the world except Russia and China that could be dangerous for the West. And do not think that the West will not crush them in the first place.
  10. vadimN
    vadimN 29 August 2013 16: 03
    +2
    And hto this liberalist launched on the site ...?
    1. yan
      yan 29 August 2013 16: 05
      +6
      The enemy must be known in person. Let him speak better here.
  11. dmb
    dmb 29 August 2013 16: 05
    +8
    It was the expected reaction to the article, and the gentlemen did not try to refute the critics with figures and facts and without abusiveness. I also did not like the article, because Russia (not Putin) is mentioned in a derogatory form. However, in essence, it is more objective than the joyful screeching of pseudo-patriots. What exactly (I mean things) Putin does not like the West in his foreign policy, what plans did the US and NATO prevent? How many serious allies, as opposed to the US and NATO, have we gained during his reign? Even with the old Belarus and Kazakhstan we periodically bark, even being absolutely wrong. Uralkali is a prime example. I will not say anything about domestic politics. I recall only that the damage caused by one Vasilyeva is comparable to the damage from flooding in Primorye. And if there is an element, then there is deliberate theft.
    1. optimist
      optimist 29 August 2013 17: 04
      +1
      Quote: dmb
      However, in essence, it is more objective than the joyful screeching of pseudo-patriots.

      At least one sensible person was found on the forum! Before you scam the author of this article, dear "urya-patriots", think carefully about WHAT SPECIFICALLY Russia and GDP can do in this situation? Splashing saliva and cursing amers and sticking them? What else??? If GDP just tries to "rock the boat" in earnest, default and revolution are guaranteed! After all, Russia is selling its hydrocarbons to the "damned West". So let's go to bed safely, as it was with Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya. I'm not even talking about the fact that all the loot, real estate and families of Putin's sidekicks are again in the West. Here we have to think about the big trouble that threatens us all, and people are almost playing tote: "they will hit, they will not hit". Unfortunately, they strike ... These nasty, but smart guys are good at counting money and would not just pull their groups to Syria (I hope everyone understands that this is not a cheap pleasure).
      1. Raptor75
        Raptor75 29 August 2013 17: 51
        +3
        Quote: optimist
        default and revolution are provided!
        Are you serious???
        Quote: optimist
        . These vile, but smart guys are good at counting money and would not just pull their groups to Syria (I hope everyone understands that this is a very expensive pleasure).
        You are wrong about this. All their politics, and propaganda in recent years - a continuous stream of insanity crap.
        Quote: optimist
        the immovability and families of Putin's sidekicks are again west
        If so, Syria would have been bombed into the Stone Age.

        Quote: optimist
        hit ..

        IMHO, they piss. They don’t give a damn about international law; there are plenty of examples. Why haven’t struck Syria so far? While you hear a menacing click. And every day it sounds more carefully.
      2. smile
        smile 29 August 2013 18: 50
        +2
        optimist
        1. I want to note that there is a strange contradiction in your words .... You support DMB. who says. because everything is bad because of us. that Putin radish, which must be driven, they say, does nothing .... But. in the same time. you speak. that Putin doesn’t have so many opportunities ...
        2. What is Putin's sidekick? why do you think so and how much dough he has over the hill ... otherwise your words are like swamp nonsense of an old horse of indefinite suit. you will not name ...
        3. We are not selling hydrocarbons. raise our agriculture and kill the social sphere ... the West without our oil will simply die ... the great depression will seem to them a wonderful fairy tale ...
        So. please confirm your words so as not to look like an unreasonable person who likes to tell lies, no matter what motives ... then. that there is a man, an all-ransoman, does not excuse him ... even though this is a diagnosis ... :)))
    2. Nick_1972
      Nick_1972 29 August 2013 17: 08
      0
      I absolutely agree with the comment, more precisely, you will not say. Unfortunately.
    3. smile
      smile 29 August 2013 17: 16
      +4
      dmb
      1. The most important thing is that Pu prevented the West-prevented the collapse of the state into 86 entities, as they were not embarrassed to discuss. making plans to take control of nuclear weapons. so that it doesn’t flow away ...
      2.And what do you think, only we are to blame for the fact that the country was not able to instantly jump out of the abyss. into which the elbon drove her. not merged with Belarus and Kazakhstan? Ask your comrades from the republics even on this site if they ... especially the Kazakhs ... do you think the official propaganda carried out in their countries with the knowledge of their national leaders affects their position? So who is to blame? Or is it all our fault?
      And the last ... And you do not think that you yourself can be called a pseudo-patriot.? By the way, I forgot to ask, and who do you propose to replace Putin’s radish? Or the main thing for you is that he leaves, and there, even though the grass does not grow?
      And I myself am able to criticize, including against Putin, some actions of which I do not like, and some are generally inexplicable ...
      1. optimist
        optimist 29 August 2013 17: 45
        +2
        Quote: smile
        By the way, I forgot to ask, and who do you propose to replace Putin’s radish? Or the main thing for you is that he leaves, and there, even though the grass does not grow?

        When I speak about Putin, I do not mean a specific person (whom I do not know, and none of you know, and will never know), but a gangster-oligarchic system of the comprador type, of which he is the "snout". And the whole trouble of Russia is that its population does not understand that the same humpback, ebn and gdp "cardboard dorks" are for narrow-minded citizens. I hope that the times of "enlightenment" are not far off: "January 9, 1905" is approaching, when faith in another "tsar" will be "killed". Well, about replacing the "irreplaceable" ... Surely the "Lenin" who will soon fit into the "armored car" is already walking somewhere. The scenario 100 years ago will repeat itself completely ...
        1. smile
          smile 29 August 2013 19: 06
          +4
          optimist
          1. Putin is. how do you say. "snout" of our state, I think. which is mine too ...
          2. Please stop pouring slogans about cardboard durilok ... how do you know that he is someone else's puppet? Do you live under Pu's table? do you look at what place? ... Confirmation that Putin is not an independent figure on the barrel! ... and without marsh demagogy please ...
          3. Looking at you, I want to feel sorry for you and give you candy .....
          Proverb: Simplicity is worse than theft is about you ......
          the fact that you believed swamp stories about the revolution ... it's still nothing, they say they still treat psychos somewhere with psychos .... and your harsh prophecies. probably uttered in a grave voice make me shake .... in an unbridled gag .... what, dear, do Vanga’s laurels not give rest? What, nobody listens to bullshit? Want some advice? Stick out both eyes - and everything will turn out, become a real Pythia! :)))
          but that you are passionately waiting for a repeat of the revolution. that. that you are not enough 91 years old, says that you are not just an all-prosralist, you are an enemy ... but any enemy is subject to destruction ... I hope. we will manage .... bye ...
          1. optimist
            optimist 29 August 2013 20: 01
            +2
            Quote: smile
            you are an enemy ... and any enemy is subject to destruction ... I hope. we will manage .... bye ...

            Believe me, I was very scared.
            Quote: smile
            .Confirmation that Putin is not an independent figure on the barrel! ... and without marsh demagogy please ...

            Do you have any back evidence?
            Quote: smile
            Looking at you, I want to feel sorry for you and give you candy .....

            Thank you, I don't need pity or sweets. I will say a banal phrase, but time will judge us. You remind me of those "loyal subjects" of the citizens who went to the Tsar-Father on January 9, 1905. I hope you remember what happened to them? For some reason I am sure that at one time you glorified both the hunchback and the ebna, until it turned out that they were "bad".
            1. smile
              smile 29 August 2013 20: 56
              +3
              optimist
              Take my word for it, I didn’t intend to scare you, I don’t have such a habit, I don’t see the need ... I expressed confidence that we will cope with those who are eager to destroy our state ... and I do not care. why do they want to destroy the country, out of malice, or from the undeveloped brain muscle ...
              1. Usually the one who makes scary eyes proves and says, you’re all here to ... I know one truth! ... Putin is not Putin at all, but a woman, a black woman, but she paints her face ... and in the synagogue goes ... eat babies .... when they drink the blood of virgins .... after having slept with a mammoth ... stolen money at the Central Bank ... everyone saw how at night with a bag rushing around. back and forth ....
              Your lies are no more convincing than this version. even the undoubted similarity has ... therefore, do not try to dodge, it will not work, but either confirm or silently keep silent so as not to disgrace further ...
              I’ll answer absolutely honestly since you really think of me as you wrote about me .... and I think that you are not as stupid as I put you out and how you showed yourself with your texts ... So. as briefly as possible ...
              1. Since the appearance of Gorbachev, he despised him, like my whole family. like most Russian speakers and a significant part of Lithuanians ... the fact is that I lived in Lithuania. and it was under him that the local Russophobes raised their heads.
              2. Even before the elbon became president, I hated him, despise the demagogues. who, under the guise of fighting against party apparatchiks and pathetic privileges, are eager for power .... by the way, now you are on the side of their reincarnation — the methods and words and goals are the same ... besides, it was Elbon who killed the Union ... he gave it my hometown, Klaipeda, the Lithuanians, with a hunchback, the Lithuanians were ready for what Klaipeda would have to give, according to all the media, the Lithuanian leaders informed their people about it. therefore, for half a year, from Klaipeda’s numerous shipyards, pilot plants and shipyards, they exported and sold increasingly less valuable equipment — CNC machines and powerful computers and everything that could be .... and then after August 91 Elbon gave my hometown labazes. ....
              3. I was barking to death with the first father-in-law, half my course on pirastroika of glastnost and democracies, (I was the youngest on the course, I earned the title of communist offspring), I even had to put a couple of especially aggressive democrats once ... after that, nobody touched me. and treated very respectfully ... especially girls, which I, nozzle, really liked ... :)))
              4. When choosing Pu, I voted for Primakov, was sharply against Putin, and argued with his stepfather all the time that nothing good could come from the ...
              But I have eyes. ears and I know how to think ... therefore I can be called a supporter of Putin .... and since I can’t change my opinion of the elbon. I came to a conclusion. that the group of comrades asked that this successor be appointed. for whom the fate of the Motherland is not an empty phrase ... and he appointed, under guarantees of immunity ... after all, Putin wrote off all the others from his gang ... maybe Chubais is also part of the deal, but this is already less likely. in my opinion...
              So, colleague ... I have always had firm convictions, and if you have to crush the swamp revolutionaries, the hand will not flinch ...
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 29 August 2013 21: 00
                +6
                Quote: smile
                and if you have to crush the swamp revolutionaries, the hand will not flinch ...

                With all the revolutionary ruthlessness bully Hello to the fighters of the ideological rear hi laughing
                1. pensioner
                  pensioner 29 August 2013 21: 31
                  0
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  Hello to the fighters of the ideological rear

                  Behind the rear, you know, shells are also torn ... Good night Ruslan! The devils haven’t visited yet?
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 29 August 2013 21: 44
                    +5
                    Hi hi
                    Quote: retired
                    The devils haven’t visited yet?

                    not yet request But not yet evening laughing
                    1. pensioner
                      pensioner 29 August 2013 22: 36
                      +3
                      Hello! I have a night ... The devils are not visible either, apparently the last time I was very scared angry ... some witches in the house belay ... And I wish you to wait anyway! drinks
                2. smile
                  smile 29 August 2013 23: 44
                  0
                  Ruslan67
                  I push very few people, I am a very kind and condescending person .... I generally do not like to use force against people ... I have never even beaten my son ... but for what you said about revolutionary ruthlessness, I’m grateful ( +) - that’s exactly what it is ... :))) if I push someone and mercilessly ... otherwise it makes no sense to press :))) I can sympathize with the victims and then ... :)))
                  And our rear, unfortunately, is a blurry thing, all the main dangers are in the rear ... we have all the fights in the rear for the past quarter century .... are you also a supporter of revolution and internecine fighting? Please answer .... very interesting ... :))))
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 30 August 2013 01: 42
                    +3
                    Quote: smile
                    Answer please,..

                    Quote: smile
                    also a supporter of the revolution and civil strife?

                    I am for rolling into the pancake of the fifth column until it came to the revolution bully
              2. optimist
                optimist 29 August 2013 21: 19
                +2
                Quote: smile
                and if you have to crush the swamp revolutionaries, the hand will not flinch ...

                Why did you put me in the "swamp"? I hate them no less than putinoids. Both are mongrels of the oligarchic transnational capital. The task of which was to make Russia play on his field according to his rules. And this task was achieved 22 years ago. And it does not matter who plays the role of "Moor": humpback, ebn or vvp. I have eyes, I look around and see that such things as corruption, migration, ethnic strife, terrorism, economic stagnation, moronization and disease of the population cover MY country more and more actively. And so respected by you "guarantor", as a famous character of the classics, pretends to be smart and puffs out his cheeks. He also teaches birds to fly, catches big pikes, takes out amphorae and poses with a naked torso. Any adequate person will understand that this is CLOWN, not the president of a great country. I understand that modern PR technologies allow Satan to be presented as God, but you also need to have your own brains ...
                1. smile
                  smile 29 August 2013 22: 18
                  +2
                  optimist
                  Tell me, if I lived in Germany in the 30s, yelled in the morning, Deutschland Huber Alles, wore brown clothes, believed that Germany needed living space in the East, would regularly make a hail to Hitler with a pen, and considered it absolutely necessary to destroy inferior nations, but said I’m not a Nazi, would you believe me? They also remember a part of Ramov’s comrades who were allowed to go under the knife ... and the rest didn’t attach ... that's why I took you to the swamp ... you have the same rhetoric, the same aspirations and hopes ... so, what is the difference?
                  In terms of indicators-Corruption, terrorism, child mortality, fertility, stagnation of the economy over the past 13 years, serious positive changes have been achieved ... even despite the idiotic actions of Medved .... you cannot not know about this, means that you intentionally lie? The only thing you may not know, if absolutely infantile, is not a sin, about corruption ... and so, if you compare. how easily our justice was bought in the 90s, the scale of corruption. when they revealed all the wealth of the country, the number of cases initiated. reached the court ... then our achievements are very tangible ... another thing is that such corruption as we have now is also intolerant, although it does not differ from most countries ... and we have less of it than in most countries. ..
                  Question: why do you intentionally not see everything positive. but are you hyperbolizing everything negative? What for?
                  Populism is an integral part of the work of the president in all countries, why should ours be different in this? Especially. that the opposition-all-doing the same .... their trouble is that they are just not very interesting to anyone ..
                  .Yes, you need to have brains .... so who's stopping you from getting them?
                  1. optimist
                    optimist 29 August 2013 23: 12
                    +2
                    Quote: smile
                    In terms of indicators, corruption, terrorism, child mortality, fertility, stagnation of the economy over the past 13 years have achieved significant positive changes ...

                    Neither you, nor I, nor anyone else knows and will never know the true numbers of "shifts", as well as in which direction they are shifted. And one of the main "moments of truth" for me (and many others) was the situation with fart. And the point is not even that he will not be imprisoned in any way, but that the GDP at that time was the chairman of the government and should FORMALLY bear responsibility for its subordinate minister. The army still has not recovered from the reforms and I will say more: the mess continues. The endless personnel leapfrog continues and the officers think not about the service, but about how they would not be reduced. So what about the fight against corruption, drop it: they plant small bipods. And then for the fact that either they did not share, or they did not grab them by rank. So, as he was a gdp thieves' godfather, it remained ...
                    1. smile
                      smile 30 August 2013 00: 02
                      +1
                      optimist
                      In view of my professional activities, I have the opportunity to formulate a reasonably reasonable assessment of the shifts in the state of corruption in law enforcement bodies and the judicial system over the past almost twenty years ... I have set forth my opinion. I will not comment on the situation with the stool ... and not because everything is so wrong so far. as I want, but because. I don’t know what materials the investigation has. but I know that corruption cases were the most difficult to investigate back in Soviet times ... we don’t know how this tvaryna was protected, how she hid her crimes ... but he is not a pro-tax specialist ....
                      And the fact that the level of corruption has decreased, it is visible to the naked eye ... it’s harder to give a bribe, and not everyone began to take ... they are afraid ... cases before the court began to reach clearly more than before ... the amount of bribes increased, payment for fear .... :))))
                2. rsnv
                  rsnv 30 August 2013 00: 39
                  0
                  Dear optimist, you said everything exactly and in the case. I support and put a plus.
              3. pensioner
                pensioner 29 August 2013 21: 28
                0
                hi
                Quote: smile
                But I have eyes. ears and I can think ... so I can be called a supporter of Putin ...
                I have the same attitude in life. And the article is complete nonsense. Paranoid. Annalistic to the same.
        2. Andrew-001
          Andrew-001 29 August 2013 20: 14
          +3
          optimistYou are some kind of pessimist (sorry for the pun). And you want a lot from Pu - although he is autocratic, he’s still the president and not the king. He cannot take and immediately do everything as he sees fit. Not everything depends on him (as on any other president of any other country).
          And with all my dislike for him, I must say that living with us in Russia is not so bad, and this life is gradually, slowly, but getting better.
          And even if we draw historical analogies, then not with 1905, but with the end of the twenties. And it turns out that Putin - the protege of Yeltsin and the oligarchs (like Stalin - the protege of Lenin and the Trotskyists), using Stalin's methods without haste (so that without errors, with a guarantee), removes those who put him out of the game. And this is a scenario of 70-80 years ago, a hopeful scenario.
          1. optimist
            optimist 29 August 2013 20: 37
            +2
            Quote: Andrew-001
            And you want a lot from Pu - although he is autocratic, he’s still the president and not the king. He cannot take and immediately do everything as he sees fit. Not everything depends on him (like on any other president of any other country). And with all my dislike for him, I must say that living with us in Russia is not so bad, and this life is gradually, slowly, but getting better.

            Do you seriously believe that a guy with a normal orientation can be the chairman of a gay club? laughing It turns out that he is one "D" Artagnan, and all the other 3,14 doras. And as for the "good life", if you were more observant, you would have noticed with the naked eye that it is already beginning to end. As I answered above one "brave putinoid" - time will judge us. Wait and see. First, let's see how this "gambit" with Syria will end.
            1. Andrew-001
              Andrew-001 29 August 2013 20: 59
              +2
              Quote: optimist
              As for the "good life"

              I wouldn’t call this life good in life wassat Or I’m just very far from that level.
              Quote: optimist
              if you were observant, you would have noticed with the naked eye that it is already beginning to end.

              Perhaps you are right, I do not pretend to know everything, and moreover, I’m just sure that life in a village, a small town, or, in my case, in St. Petersburg, proceeds differently.
              Quote: optimist
              Wait and see. First, let's see how this "gambit" with Syria will end.

              I agree. Moreover, the consequences of the "gambit" in one way or another concern everyone.
      2. Raptor75
        Raptor75 29 August 2013 17: 55
        +1
        Quote: smile
        And I myself am able to criticize, including against Putin, some actions of which I do not like, and some are generally inexplicable ...

        Nda. Putin in domestic and foreign policy - two different people.
      3. dmb
        dmb 29 August 2013 20: 02
        +6
        smil, dear, but you know how (judging by the previous comments) to speak not only with slogans. Why are you getting lost on them now. I asked specific questions, and the answers to them were received in the style: "There is an elderberry in the garden, and there is an uncle in Kiev." I didn’t talk about any unification at all, but asked about the acquisition of new allies who, together with us, would oppose the States and NATO. They are not there, and you understand perfectly well, and therefore wag in the answer. On your first point, let me ask you a few more questions. If the West wanted 86 states so much, which prevented it from doing this in the period from 1992 to 1998. Their protégés were in power, the army was ruined and led by such a corrupt shobla that even Serdyukov seems to be more attractive (he is a mebel, and they took the Oath. of this cohort of American henchmen who held government posts, suffered losses under Putin. Of many, only three encroached on his personal interests. By the way, in the discussion above, you reproached your opponent for the lack of evidence of the personal enrichment of Putin and his entourage. I would like you to also prove "as they no longer hesitated to discuss. drawing up plans to take nuclear weapons under control. so that they do not leak where ...". And the last thing. Calling someone a pseudo-patriot, I try to justify the reasons for this. If you think me so, try to justify. by the way, it does not matter at all that Putin left (FSB colonels in Russia are like a makhorka fool), it is more important for me to liquidate the capitalist system, which heand his entourage personify, and which in the end will lead my country to ruin.
        1. optimist
          optimist 29 August 2013 20: 43
          +2
          Quote: dmb
          For me, by the way, it’s completely unimportant for Putin to leave (FSB colonels in Russia like a fool of a shag), it’s more important for me to liquidate the capitalist system, which he and his entourage represent, and which in the end will lead my country to death.

          This is what the "pseudo-patriots" do not understand. (Or they don't want to understand) Such smile at the beginning of the 20th century, they walked the streets of the Republic of Ingushetia under banners and stupidly shouted "God Save the Tsar." There is a very broad category of people in Russia who are very poorly aware of causal relationships ... repeat
          1. smile
            smile 29 August 2013 22: 46
            +1
            optimist
            The only time when I "participated" in the rally was in the spring of 91, I was 20 .... I passed with my classmates past Victory Square in Klaipeda and saw there, around the monument over the graves of the children liberating the city, a forty-five a pillar-crowd of 9 people who screamed about the Russian invaders and democracy .. the pedestal was doused with burgundy paint and pasted over with banners, in the spirit of "with a cannon for a sausage" meters up to 10 ... one of the sides of the four-sided pillar ... and while they were digesting managed to yell that we have democracy, you hang an abomination, I rip off ... I was almost torn apart ... my classmates who pulled me out (200 people) and cowardice and indecision saved me ... Lithuanians ... Mom cried, said that I was a durrr cancer, my grandfather was sitting next to the bed and talking about the war ...
            by the way, a day later at the monuments, the head of the garrison put out two boxes and a reinforced armed guard ... the monuments were fenced with ribbons with a poster "The border of the post. When crossing the fire opens without warning" .... in 95, the monument was demolished, the bones were thrown out, a flower garden was broken over the graves in the colors of the national flag ... in Russia, no one fumbled ...
            I didn’t take part in rallies ... and you have a problem with cause-and-effect relations ... you’re stupidly yelling now ... and I’m acting even then. when it’s pointless ... always! Therefore, those like you who are waiting for the revolution should seriously consider whether it is necessary to destroy the country? :)))
        2. smile
          smile 29 August 2013 21: 34
          +2
          dmb

          1. Sorry. but I answered solely in the spirit of those words with which I argued. Or would you like to. What did I just write an ode to Putin densely sprinkled with numbers? You really believe that in one or three comments you can analyze and justify all the positive changes. compare them with negative ones and get a balance? Honestly, I can't do that. I will have to sit for at least 2-3 days to scribble a more or less normal article. which I would consider justified enough. to put it on public display ...
          2. Why do you think that looking for allies. who will lay bones for you - so easy? In twenty years from 17 to 41, the Union has gained only one — Mongolia ... should it continue? Even in the postwar period, over the decades, the most powerful Union gained many loyal allies? Then why blame Putin?
          3. I read the memoirs of Henry Kissinger and someone else (it will be necessary, I will find). who spoke. that after Elbon informed them by phone. that the Union kirdyk. an emergency meeting was convened. at which further action was discussed. One of the solutions is the development of special operations to take our nuclear weapons under control (if you remember Khodorkovsky advocated not only concessions, as in colonial countries, but also for taking nuclear weapons under international control), he said, this is in tune with Brzezinski’s opinion. which he even stated in books — what the Americans thought at first. that everything will work out quickly ... it didn’t work out, and therefore it was necessary to act steadily ... if they acted roughly, the elbon would fly off and its antagonists would come to power (by the way. almost the entire environment of the elbon is cleared and pushed ... almost one the redhead restrained himself, I don’t know why) ... if you really are too lazy to look for it yourself and you do not believe me, then I will find it tomorrow or the day after tomorrow ... if you want, I will send it in a personal ... and I will do it solely out of respect to you .... because despite the fact that I’m barking with you now, I respect you ... and I didn’t call you a pseudo-patriot, I said. that you MAY be called a pseudo-patriot ... in response to what you called the supporters of Putin pseudo-patriots ... and me including, it turns out ... you see the difference?
          1. optimist
            optimist 29 August 2013 22: 28
            0
            Quote: smile
            CALLED the pseudo-patriots of Putin's supporters ... and me including

            Let’s, dear, for a couple of minutes we will discard numbers and emotions and turn on logic and memory.
            For starters: where is all this rag-tag who, together with ebn, racked up the country in the 90s? And they all live happily and well, they are directors of any funds or institutes. In short, they sit in warm, bread and calm places. Except for birch and hodor. Even the "oppositioner" Nemtsov feels great and shows the middle finger to GDP. All these guys have business, real estate over the hill and indulgences from the current government. And the red-haired tolyan still opens the door to the "guarantor" office with his foot. Will you object to me that there is a very big difference between 98th and 13th? Elementary: then the barrel of oil was 18 bucks, and now it is 120. And if after the default Primakov was not appointed and the fuck was not removed, a revolution would have taken place in the country. Let's continue. Do you really think that the cunning KGB colonel who, together with the late Sobchak, raided St. Petersburg's property in the early 90s, climbed into power with the secret idea of ​​"lifting Russia off its knees"? In this case, you are absolutely not familiar with the mechanisms and principles of appointment in our bandit state. Even the cleaning lady in the district administration, sorry, they look in the anus when applying for a job. And then they move a person to the "looking" for the richest country in the world! Surely overseas curators have all the possibilities for control. The second time, as in their time with Trotsky, they no longer go to bed. So nothing has changed since the "dashing 90s" in principle. They just gave the people a taste of the "capitalist nishtyakov" in the form of vouchers to Turkey and credit wheelbarrows. Otherwise, some "Lenin" would have climbed onto an armored car long ago. Well, now comes the time of reckoning for the "fat zero". The rampant theft of Putin's accomplices, his flirting with the North Caucasian bays, and much more may turn Russia into a pancake in the near future. This is what worries me. And if you don't notice all this, then all you have to do is sympathize.
            1. smile
              smile 30 August 2013 01: 12
              0
              optimist
              It’s time to start a polemic ... I'm tired .... although you know very well that I have something to answer, but ... I said everything .... who has ears, yes sees, who has eyes, yes hears, who has hands, yes he’ll run, having legs, but he will collect a rubik’s cube ... Alles chatter. the argument of the parties is enough .... :))))
          2. dmb
            dmb 29 August 2013 22: 38
            +3
            Dear, you are again lumping together. Were going to take control of nuclear weapons and division into 86 states, different things. Note to yourself, they were going to take control under Yeltsin. And they did not take it, although they could well. You dragged Khodorkovsky to no place at all, in 1992 he still stole little, and no one asked his lousy opinion, and what he began to weave later is not forbidden to talk nonsense in our country. This is about the same series as one of the "commanders" on the website today proposed to strike at Syria (why Syria?) With our strategic bombers. About the 17th year, you generally famously turned it over, Why not compare with the times of Alexei Tishaishiy? Frankly speaking, I did not understand what you are going to tell me personally. List of Yeltsinoids Affected by Putin? I think there is no need for this, I named three victims. True, none of them suffered as a robber of their country and its people. The reason for their "suffering" was the elementary redistribution of property that had already been stolen earlier. But no one was going to return it to the people. Again, I considered and still consider pseudo-patriots not because they love Putin (yes, you even love Maya Plisetskaya ", but because they support the person, a) who betrayed the work he served before he became Sobchak's portfolio carrier, environment, to plant capitalism in the country in its most vile forms Or do you want to say that it is building a society based on justice?
            1. smile
              smile 30 August 2013 00: 42
              0
              dmb
              Could not, otherwise they would have taken it necessarily. The inertia of society would not allow .... it was too early ... we would be furious. and they understood this perfectly ... and ebn was a stubborn comrade with whom it was optimal to act quietly, through agents of influence. yes things are different, these are different points of one action plan, it would be strange if they would not be interconnected .....
              I went to Hodor. that by the end of the age of the elbon he was, perhaps. the most influential among the oligarchs politically ... the flag of the liberals ... the most obvious spokesman for their interests among the oligarchs ... bugbear ...
              I spoke about the revolution only because a fellow optimist spoke about it .... please take a closer look at the fact that you criticize, the reasons for criticism will decrease ...
              And about personally, I proposed to inform you of the following:
              You literally said the following:
              “I would like you to prove it as well,” as they no longer hesitate to discuss. making plans to take control of nuclear weapons. so that it does not leak where ... ".

              Since right now I can’t bring irrefutable evidence, I suggested bringing it later, and explained why .... what could be the claim? ... :)))
              Almost all of Yeltsin’s equipment has been changed, but it’s valid. unfortunately, not assigned to the nearest wall ... and redistribution of property is also a timely term. but the political course, including the domestic one, has changed quite a lot.
              I do not think. that under capitalism it is possible to build a just society in general ... but humanization is quite possible ... in addition, I do not see the possibility of a transition to a different model without complete dissension, in which external enemies will destroy us ...
              My heart is free ... and I do not like Plisetskaya ... she is too old for me ... :)))
              And Putin is not planting anything, everything has already been planted .... in the most heinous forms ... the general trend now is still positive .... by the way, I am very grateful to you for your questions ... but you forgot to answer mine .. . :))) including that. whom do you see as the leader of the country .... :)))
              Bye then.....
              1. dmb
                dmb 30 August 2013 09: 01
                +2
                Hello, do not take it for a vicious call, but I didn’t raise questions of revolution at all, although I can repeat what I think about this if you wish. As for the answer to your question. I would like to see the personality of the scale and ideals of Lenin. Unfortunately I do not see her. Although ... If you carefully read the story not from primitives like Svanidze or Starikov, you can easily see that the very Lenin was known to a fairly small circle of people before 1917, and that he became the idol of multimillion Russia by standing at the head of state. Moreover, in my opinion, he was made an idol first of all by the idea professed by him, and only secondly by personal qualities. So I fully admit that there is such a leader, he will simply appear at a time when the tops cannot. and the lower classes .... well, you obviously in the know. Just because I don’t see such a person at the moment does not mean that Putin is a replacement for her. On the contrary, he will do everything to ensure that such a person does not appear, because in contrast to him, he represents and defends the interests of, first of all, big capital. I repeat, the question is not personally in Putin, but in the course conducted by his group.
    4. pritorius
      pritorius 29 August 2013 18: 40
      +5
      How many serious allies, as opposed to the US and NATO, have we gained during his reign?
      And how many were there before his reign? or Americans who pumped oil for a darma are you more comfortable with?
    5. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      NOBODY EXCEPT US 29 August 2013 23: 40
      +2
      DMB, Well done, plus for objectivity ......
    6. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 13: 21
      0
      dmb RU
      Well, at least one person sensibly reasoned and understood what it was all about. You should read the article and break it with arguments, and not a hassle of kvass-gas with a tantrum. PLUS to you.
  12. Stiletto
    Stiletto 29 August 2013 16: 12
    +8
    He made himself carefully study this Mr. And, just in case, remember the name of the worm who wrote all this. And God forbid, you will one day let go by the kindness of the soulful prisoner of war, and then you will bite your elbows after finding out who he was.
  13. Yura
    Yura 29 August 2013 16: 20
    0
    I read the article, what is it ??? angry
  14. Stiletto
    Stiletto 29 August 2013 16: 22
    +3
    Quote: Jura
    I read the article, what is it ???


    This was not an article, a colleague. More precisely, under Stalin, an article could have been for such an author. And so ... Mr. Pastukhov carried slightly. Onishchenko will help to find out what they eat there is not fresh, from which then he rushes and heats ...
  15. i-gor63
    i-gor63 29 August 2013 16: 26
    +1
    Degenerative article!
  16. combat192
    combat192 29 August 2013 16: 29
    +1
    When will the plebs understand that in international relations the same rules apply as in the gangster world !?
    The one who is stronger is right, not even so much economically (more dough) how much physically (the bagpipe is cooler, lads on the hook ...) in the sense of the most - powerful armed forces and allied forces.
  17. shinobi
    shinobi 29 August 2013 16: 34
    0
    Der.mo article. The author is apparently a liberal.
  18. Russ69
    Russ69 29 August 2013 16: 36
    -1
    Article, another liberal verbiage .... Bold minus
  19. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 29 August 2013 16: 58
    +1
    The author of this infamous libel is an enemy of Russia and our people: look how the fighter against Putin went wild. Yes, you Judas spat in the soul of your people. And you and your masters from Potomac are just confused. This is one of those who have not even heard the shots Fatty minus its cooking
  20. novikov
    novikov 29 August 2013 17: 02
    +6
    I do not agree with the author. I believe in RUSSIA.
  21. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 29 August 2013 17: 06
    +4
    Quote: dmb
    What exactly (I mean things) Putin does not like the West in his foreign policy, what plans did the US and NATO prevent?

    And what could he interfere with? When a soldier came to the army to feed his parents. The economy was created before him, profits from oil and gas practically did not fall into the treasury. When he directed this profit to the state in the west, a howl about the dictator began. Now at least slowly (with the help of this money) we are restoring the army. Now we are trying to declare our interests or we should not have them (dream of the USA). Did not gain allies so build the last? In general, the standard liberal libel, anti-Russian orientation.
    1. Nick_1972
      Nick_1972 29 August 2013 17: 13
      +1
      With all due respect, but this tenth day is already beginning to ... be. GDP has been at the helm for thirteen years, like a slave in galleys. How much more is needed to restore Russia: 20, 200, 2000 years? For how many years did Stalin raise the Union after the Great Patriotic War?
    2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      NOBODY EXCEPT US 29 August 2013 23: 38
      +1
      What are you talking about, sick OH has been steering for 13 years, how much more zoo do you need?
  22. servant.
    servant. 29 August 2013 17: 08
    0
    Another handshake decided to become ....
  23. ed65b
    ed65b 29 August 2013 17: 11
    +5
    Do not argue for nothing in vain, the events around Syria will put everything in its place. Soon we will see who has the best eggs. The ending of the Syrian question will be the answer to this opus.
    1. Raptor75
      Raptor75 29 August 2013 19: 23
      +1
      Forcing the atmosphere is a little tired of everyone. And Putin’s silence not only annoys the West, but many immature minds here ...
  24. Pashkevich
    Pashkevich 29 August 2013 17: 15
    +3
    why I attacked the author. what for now is war for us if the ability to conduct hostilities depends on the price of a barrel of oil?
    1. a52333
      a52333 29 August 2013 17: 52
      +1
      US high oil prices are trying to slow down the development of China.
  25. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 29 August 2013 17: 15
    +4
    Question to the moderator. Why do the venerable public feed slop, which is a shortage of normal analytics.
  26. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 29 August 2013 17: 18
    +5
    get underfoot everywhere

    Defend Russia's interests - get confused?
    And under whose feet?
    Under the feet of those who trampled Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya?
    According to the logic of the author, you need to substitute the ass, or what?
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  28. antibanukurayza
    antibanukurayza 29 August 2013 17: 29
    +1
    And the inscriptions "Today is Syria, tomorrow is Russia!" do not tell the author of this beleberd about anything?
  29. Stiletto
    Stiletto 29 August 2013 17: 39
    0
    Quote: antibanukuraza
    And the inscriptions "Today is Syria, tomorrow is Russia!" do not tell the author of this beleberd about anything?


    Yes, he, I believe, himself wrote them.
  30. veles52
    veles52 29 August 2013 17: 43
    0
    Where did so many insurgents come from? For gaulitverstva are supported sashepashnogo or what?
  31. Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 29 August 2013 17: 48
    +7
    Thank you for the article, Mr. Pastukhov !! Wonderful article. Gives a clear understanding of how we damn screwed up, without having you, corrupt and snotty liberals to the end.
  32. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 29 August 2013 17: 53
    +1
    This bastard, the author, a typical representative of the fifth column in Russia. When will these traitors begin to plant or "tolerantly" drive them out of the country? After all, start a mess, these nits organize an underground front inside the country. How much can you endure the antics of these infidels? First, an attempt on Vera, then on the foundations of society and family, then betrayal in full. How long can you look at this puny? After all, everyone has long understood that the world has come to the last line before the third world. It follows that the country should be clenched like one fist. And when there are not many worms in your fist, you will not fight a lot. It's time to draw conclusions: -or you are in dreams or against us. not given here.
  33. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 29 August 2013 18: 05
    +1
    The history of Russia includes, among other things, the history of “unnecessary wars”, rationally unexplained conflicts, into which Russia got involved contrary to common sense and which led to catastrophic consequences.

    How can this be said?
    1. Raptor75
      Raptor75 29 August 2013 19: 29
      0
      About the first world author, in general, he is right, which can not be said about the rest.
  34. Luger
    Luger 29 August 2013 18: 09
    +2
    Well, why are you right so pounced on the author? Someone wrote, but I read it with great interest. I was bribed by the non-standard nature of the article, so to speak, a look in another plane. And the arguments given by the author, although not fully "run in", are very original. In fact, the policy of not sticking out is very actively used by one major player in the world arena - China, look at them and you will understand everything, including what the author wanted to say.
    1. Raptor75
      Raptor75 29 August 2013 19: 59
      0
      Original arguments?
      - Afghanistan. The entry of troops was justified by the situation at that time justified. This should be judged on the basis of the realities of that time.
      -
      Quote: Luger
      Now Russia does not bother anyone in the world
      To declare this ... Well, if this is an inadequate person, like all our "liberals"
      -
      Quote: Luger
      Gradually, the same explosive situation develops inside the country,
      Another liberal nonsense.
      Quote: Luger
      Putin needs to continuously demonstrate his "steepness"

      Well, and then in the same spirit. All the same "liberal" verbal diarrhea. This is not a view of another plane, this is the view of the audience of Dozhd and Ekho Moskvy.
  35. optimist
    optimist 29 August 2013 18: 21
    +2
    As an amateur psychologist, I can say one thing - the article caused so many negative emotions for the simple reason that the author expressed the TRUTH about all of us in a direct and cynical form. Moreover, the facts stated by him really take place. And instead of splashing saliva and calling names of all sorts of "tolerasts" (the word of official propagandists), you just need to think about and read the history of Russia. Right now, looking at the events in Syria (because we really won't help her in any way: Lavrov clearly said that no one will fight), we will understand where the words are. and where is the real help.
    1. Raptor75
      Raptor75 29 August 2013 20: 01
      -1
      Quote: optimist
      As an amateur psychologist, I can say one thing, the article caused so many negative emotions for the simple reason that the author expressed in a direct and cynical form the TRUTH about us all

      The author expressed the point of view of our beloved liberals. The reaction is appropriate.
    2. Arabist
      Arabist 29 August 2013 22: 27
      0
      What a lover of truth! The truth is different. Are you the ultimate truth?
    3. chehywed
      chehywed 29 August 2013 23: 34
      +1
      Quote: optimist
      As an amateur psychologist, I can say one thing


      The title "Psychologist of the Year" was once again won by vodka. laughing
  36. VL33
    VL33 29 August 2013 18: 25
    +2
    I am writing a first time comment! Such a filth Novodvorskogo shepherd did not read and did not see. The surname reflects the essence of the person well in his consciousness, etc. which should not be listed further. There are no arguments at all, well, if he is Chinese or pi .. then the East is a delicate matter or to a psychiatrist.
    1. chehywed
      chehywed 29 August 2013 19: 17
      +1
      Quote: VL33
      The surname reflects the essence of the person well in his consciousness, etc. which should not be listed further

      ???????????????? Ie Koshkin and Kotin, did not create tanks, but offspring? And exclusively in March? And Sidorov ...? What, really ... with goats? laughing
      1. VL33
        VL33 29 August 2013 20: 52
        +1
        Yes, there is a consonance, but your interpretation. :)) Kozlov and in Africa. Sakharov also did not create sugar, but we are not talking about merits, but rather actions and human qualities when expressing a vision of the situation, through his essence in this case, "shepherd" (not distant) rotten. Distortions in art, literature and other areas are always present and there is a struggle. For democrats in different countries, homosexuality is the norm, but for us scientists have proven a mental disorder. As in the whole world it has not been canceled yet. So it turns out that rot is trying to spread :))
        1. chehywed
          chehywed 29 August 2013 21: 42
          0
          Quote: VL33
          but we are not talking about merits but, but actions and human qualities when expressing the vision of the situation, through our essence in this case, "shepherd" (not distant) rotten

          Here you are now walking mixed with the shit of all the Shepherds, Shepherds, Shepherds, etc., etc. The Nazis put pressure on racial inferiority. But to judge the mental abilities and the nature of people by last name !!! Hmm ...
          1. VL33
            VL33 29 August 2013 22: 15
            0
            You mixed in your understanding and conclusions. Read it and think a little more :)) so you can continue and Kuznetsov, Kovacs, Koval :)) The essence of the issue was different and the issue of discussion. My friend Eka skidded you! Nothing more to say.
            1. chehywed
              chehywed 29 August 2013 22: 52
              0
              Quote: VL33
              The surname reflects the essence of the person well in his consciousness, etc.
              ... and actions and human qualities when expressing the vision of the situation, through its essence in this case, "shepherd" (not distant) rotten.


              Not sure who wrote this? Or does short-term memory not work?
              Just in case, repeat how to spell not- with adjectives. And suddenly you remember.
  37. Djozz
    Djozz 29 August 2013 18: 30
    +1
    37 year, not only matured, but overripe! The fifth column on the march.
  38. varov14
    varov14 29 August 2013 18: 32
    +2
    Gentlemen, however, we are strange patriots, and after all, the author is perhaps right, which you let all the dogs down, his soul may hurt. They write "Yes, a normal Russian person just needs a STRONG and BOLD." Needed and even better Smart. We handed over our industry to scrap metal, what else is functioning is the mining industry and metallurgy. And what they do - rental, i.e. bar, beams, rails. And where are the finished products, machine tools, machines, ships, well, etc. Well, in the event of hostilities, at the car-assembly plants built by foreigners under a screwdriver, tanks will be assembled, or at least repaired. When they broadcast on TV that 5 aircraft entered service within a year, let's sit quietly, imperceptibly to restore everything that was wasted, and then we will fight. Although I am sure you will not take us in a guerrilla war, but in a guerrilla war. So Smart is needed, money is not in ambition to pump, but in the development of the country, and to keep it in your own chests so that your head does not hurt, otherwise in case of war there will be nothing to do with cartridges, let alone planes.
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  40. Djozz
    Djozz 29 August 2013 18: 54
    +3
    For this, it is necessary to clear the media of the "fifth column" so that there is no corruption of immature minds! In this case, one must start not from the base, but from the superstructure, that is where all the rot is. It is imperative that patriotic ideas take hold of the masses! It is important to show and give the people clear and correct slogans! (Well, today I'm straight Ilyich)
  41. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 29 August 2013 18: 54
    -1
    It is very interesting to know where the author of the article receives a salary?
    1. Djozz
      Djozz 29 August 2013 18: 59
      -1
      Ash pepper, at the memorial!
      1. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 29 August 2013 20: 23
        +2
        I agree. In general, I regret that there is no strict censorship on the "Military Review". Such Judas should not be printed at all. It is also impossible to forgive such people, no 101 kilometers, only the Urals, Siberia, Yakutia, Magadan forever and in a strict regime. The enemies of the people must be harassed completely.
  42. VadimSt
    VadimSt 29 August 2013 20: 09
    +1
    Is it posted on a patriotic site for training? Or will we slide further and further into the pit of liberals and political buggers?
    Is there a moderator on the site, or has the direction and purpose of the site changed?
    1. chehywed
      chehywed 29 August 2013 20: 19
      0
      Opinion editorial "Military Review" may not coincide with the point of view of the authors of publications

      Everything. Do not quibble. laughing
    2. TRex
      TRex 29 August 2013 21: 47
      0
      Vadim, hello. I am also starting to notice certain trends on the site. "Pluralism of opinions" ???
  43. sigdoc
    sigdoc 29 August 2013 20: 10
    +1
    To write - do not toss bags!
  44. newmark1948
    newmark1948 29 August 2013 20: 12
    +2
    I will add cheers to the putinoids, as well as to their new followers like Nemtsov and Navalilov. Brzezinski said that the Russian "elite" will never take any action against the United States, because all the money of your officials, deputies and businessmen in the amount of $ 5oo billion is in the accounts of Western banks. Families are also in the West, and in general your entire elite, for a long time already not even pro-American, but simply American. I will add that in the event of even a simple economic blockade, we will simply have nothing to eat, due to the fact that we buy 70 percent of our food abroad. And in the case of even a simple local war, our guns have nothing to fart with. So many artillery warehouses have exploded in recent years that - "Mama don't cry." Yes, and there is nothing special to fight with. The armament is outdated, there are few specialists, there is not enough dakhe to service what is left. There is simply nothing to repel the attack of any serious enemy. And if China, for example, wants to return "its" territories, then it can occupy half of Siberia and D.Vostok within 27 hours. Russia in its current position is similar to Aniku-vomna. In the XNUMX years that we have been led by the State Department, the country has turned into a third-rate raw material colony. And the entire population of Russia is to blame for this, which sold their country for a piece of soy sausage and a pack of rollton with a bottle of vodka. There was a Motherland, - there is a territory where instead of the people live the population that betrayed it.
  45. newmark1948
    newmark1948 29 August 2013 20: 24
    +2
    Jozz! The people need not slogans, but a clear program that will lead us out of this chaos. We need a movement that will revive the people first of all. The population (which is ready to vote for a signboard on "which, if only a suit was sitting" and spoke beautiful words) needs to be shaken well so that it finally becomes aware of itself as a people.
  46. -Max-
    -Max- 29 August 2013 20: 54
    0
    What to say....
    The author is from the 5th column.
    By the way, for some reason, I forgot to recall Stalin in this context (potreotism-war-revolution)
    И
  47. -Max-
    -Max- 29 August 2013 21: 06
    0
    And the author also forgot to remember that it was Russia that stopped all the "schizos" like Napoleon and Hitler,
    whose armies at that time were considered the best in the world.
    The whole world must pay tribute to Russia for this.
    Just humble We.
    Yes, and in the 1st World War we won, and the revolution in Germany was prepared for us in the person of Grandfather Lenin.
    1. Victor-M
      Victor-M 29 August 2013 21: 54
      0
      Quote: -Max-
      The revolution in Germany was prepared for us in the person of Grandfather Lenin.

      The revolution was prepared by the Anglo-Saxons and sponsored through Germany, so they owe them.
  48. niecke
    niecke 29 August 2013 21: 14
    +2
    I read and was horrified! how many heroes we have !! and everyone is eager for battle, all at least energy, strategic tactics, geniuses of military thought ... well, if I feed lice in the trenches? but not guzzled, parched, seeing water only in As part of a rotten slurry under your feet ??? Will you be heroic for a long time? Until the first bullet?
    1. Krsk
      Krsk 29 August 2013 21: 50
      0
      Quote: niecke
      .. Well, if you feed lice in the trenches? Yes, not eating, laden, seeing water only as part of a rotten slurry underfoot ??? Will you be heroic for a long time? Until the first bullet?


      And you will forgive from what front? The horror is simple - lice, slurry underfoot. Is typhus there by chance?
      1. niecke
        niecke 29 August 2013 22: 13
        +1
        I’ve been from the front for a long time (1986) but it’s not worth mocking! The war is not a parade, but the modern one is even worse !!!
        1. Krsk
          Krsk 29 August 2013 22: 18
          +1
          Quote: niecke
          ! War is not a parade, but modern is even worse !!!


          I agree 100% I’m talking about lice and I’m sitting underfoot this is in the past
  49. Naval
    Naval 29 August 2013 21: 17
    +2
    If tomorrow is war, if the enemy attacks,
    If the dark force comes, -
    As one person, the whole Soviet people
    He will stand up for a free Motherland.
    We do not want war, but we will protect ourselves, -
    We fortify the defense for a reason, -
    And in enemy land, we will crush the enemy
    Little blood, a mighty blow!
  50. chehywed
    chehywed 29 August 2013 21: 29
    +1
    The French-language version of the Iranian news agency IRIB reports:

    The Egyptian Minister of War categorically spoke out: “Not a single warship, British or otherwise, has the right to cross the Suez Canal to attack Syria!” This decision meets the joint defense agreement, signed between Egypt and Syria, which obliges both of these countries to confront a common threat.


    Suddenly! But aren't the events in Egypt causing escalation? They say to fuck in now, while Egypt did not recover from the shock?