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Russia ranks first in terms of the number of fighters set for export in 2009-2012.

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Russia ranks first in terms of the number of fighters set for export in 2009-2012.

The 11 International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2013 begins its work in Zhukovsky. 850 companies take part in the exhibition: 576 Russian and 274 foreign from 42 countries.


At the invitation of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation of Russia, official delegations from 2013 foreign states are expected to arrive at MAKS-79.

At the MAKS-2013 showroom, Rosoboronexport plans to hold talks with more than 60 delegations from 40 countries.

According to the press service of the Russian special exporter, today at aviation 58% of the total order portfolio of Rosoboronexport accounts for air defense equipment and means.

According to TSAMTO, Russia confidently ranks first in terms of the number of new multi-purpose fighters put on export in the 2009-2012. and has good chances to maintain its leadership in the expected supply in the short term (2013-2016).

Over the 8-year period (2009-2016), the number of delivered and planned to supply new Russian multi-role fighters, according to TSAMTO, is 372 machines worth about 17,1 billion dollars (including the delivery of new fighters and licensed programs).

In the first 4-year period (2009-2012), 224 new machines were exported to the amount of about 9 billion dollars, in the second 4-year period (2013-2016) the current package of orders and stated intentions for direct delivery, negotiations on which continue, is 148 fighters worth 8,1 billion dollars.

Russia is the leader in this segment of the market in terms of quantity in both 4-year periods (and for the second period it is conditional, since a number of expected contracts for delivery in the billing period has not yet been concluded). In terms of value, Russia ranks second after the US in the 2009-2012 period, in 2013-2016. and in general for the period 2009-2016.

For comparison: the second place in terms of quantity over the period 2009-2016. with a slight lag behind Russia occupy the United States (329 fighters worth 31,1 billion dollars). This is followed by China - the third place (187 fighters worth 3,7 billion dollars), Great Britain - the fourth place (84 fighters worth 12,1 billion dollars - to the UK as the main contractor, export of Typhoon fighters of the Eurofighter consortium to the third countries), Sweden - the fifth place (33 fighter worth 2,1 billion dollars). France is currently ranked sixth, since in the period under review only initial deliveries are planned under a potential contract with India for Rafale fighter jets (the first 18 vehicles).

In the category of “tenders”, which are not yet completed, in 2015-2016. delivery is planned (in case of compliance with the schedule of summing up, determining the winners and implementing the initial deliveries) 53 fighters for an estimated amount of 4,87 billion dollars.

In general, the global export of new multifunctional fighters in 2009-2012. amounted to 559 machines in the amount of 32,55 billion dollars, the projected export volume (based on current data) in 2013-2016. 517 machines worth 40,75 billion dollars, and in general for the period 2009-2016. - 1076 machines worth about 73,3 billion dollars.

The presented forecast of TSAMTO is certainly indicative, since all the leading suppliers, including Russia, may postpone deliveries (relative to the announced schedules) for already concluded contracts, especially at the current moment the approximate delivery times for declared intentions can be considered as purely estimated. or still unfinished tenders (this applies to all countries supplying).

In particular, the forecast for Russia for the period 2013-2016. Included are the expected initial shipments under a potential contract with China on the 24 Su-35, as well as the delivery of the next batch of 12 Su-30МК2 under the new contract with Vietnam (expected delivery time is 2014-2015). A possible deal with Venezuela for the supply of 24 Su-30 (Su-35) is not included in the calculation of future purchases for the near future (the program with Caracas at the official level has been discussed for a long time, there is no visible progress, Caracas is unlikely to receive).

In addition, the contract for the supply of 24 fighters MiG-29М / М2 to Syria is included in the offset of the planned deliveries of Russia (the situation both in the SAR itself and around it is extremely tense, which may affect the implementation of this contract). The calculation takes into account the planned delivery of Serbian 6 fighters MiG-29М2 (the contract has not yet been concluded, the question of allocating a Russian loan to Belgrade is being decided).

That is, Russia still has a lot of work to do to actually confirm its leadership in the upcoming 4 of the year.

For individual manufacturers of multi-purpose fighters first place in terms of quantity over the period 2009-2016. Russian fighter manufacturers "Su" occupy (calculated on the aggregate of Sukhoi AHK and Irkut NPK) - 277 machines worth about 13 billion dollars second place is occupied by Lockheed Martin - 232 machines worth 18,89 billion dollars, third place - "Chengdu" (187 machines worth about 3,7 billion dollars). Places with 4 and further on the quantitative parameter for the period 2009-2016. occupy Boeing - 97 machines (12,22 billion dollars, it should be noted that Boeing has a very large contract with Saudi Arabia, supplies for which are only partially included in the period under review), RSK MiG - 95 machines (4,11 billion dollars) , Eurofighter - 84 vehicles (12,09 billion dollars), SAAB - 33 vehicles (2,1 billion dollars) and Dassot - 18 vehicles in the amount of 2,36 billion dollars (calculated from the total cost of the expected contract with the Rafale fighters ).
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  1. Col.
    Col. 27 August 2013 16: 30 New
    21
    Normal countries (including the USSR) first of all armed their air forces, and only then sold the "surplus". And our grabbers do the opposite! What can you say ...
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 27 August 2013 17: 40 New
      11
      It's not that. As a rule, a foreign customer pays on time (and our Ministry of Defense often scrolls money to no one knows where), and since aircraft manufacturers have essentially become a private shop, they prefer a client with fewer problems.
      In fact, these "grabbers" do not care what our Air Force is armed with. The main thing for them is that the goods are paid on time.
      1. svp67
        svp67 27 August 2013 18: 00 New
        +5
        Quote: Kibalchish
        In fact, these "grabbers" do not care what our Air Force is armed with. The main thing for them is that the goods are paid on time.
        It remains only to remember that these "grabbers" work in concerns, in which, in fact, state administration ...
        1. duke
          duke 28 August 2013 06: 06 New
          +1
          Yes, where does state or private management, the question is that no one has canceled the commercial basis, i.e. reference to profit, in Soviet times, payment was made on time, try not to pay the supplier-ax-head.
      2. beech
        beech 27 August 2013 23: 32 New
        +3
        Yes, they did half the private industrial complex ... of course they care about profit, and not about their own obstinate MO ...
        the situation is this: to sell the latest equipment for a hill, consider it wrong, not patriotic and sometimes rather treacherous, but if you do not sell, then there is a good chance to bend because ours can conclude contracts through one place or not at all.
        About the contract with China for su35: what it is like to be obsessed with money so as not to understand: China will buy 2 dozen for its own tests, etc., and then we will be surprised that this China is stamping too similar to our aircraft
    2. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 27 August 2013 18: 00 New
      10
      And where will you find the money to update the fleet?. The Ministry of Finance is reducing the "maternity capital". And the supply for export, too, "its" Air Force, Think. By the way, for information, the delivery of the SU-30MKI abroad costs 40 million tanks. VVS-12 mln. Delivery of one, compensates 3 for us.
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      2. Panikovsky
        Panikovsky 27 August 2013 18: 59 New
        0
        [quote = Reasonable, 2,3] And where will you find the money to update the park?. The Ministry of Finance is reducing the "maternity capital". And the supply for export, too, "its" Air Force, Think. By the way, for information, the supply of SU-30MKI for the milestone costs 40 million tanks, the purchase of our air force-12 million. The supply of one, compensates for 3 for us. [/
        Uv. Reasonable, you are really reasonable. my plus to you.
      3. Hitrovan07
        Hitrovan07 27 August 2013 20: 00 New
        +7
        Exactly, while we are putting 3 for export - you look your country is gone - and then there is no one to make deliveries at a "dumping price". laughing
      4. tomket
        tomket 27 August 2013 20: 30 New
        +3
        I think if Comrade Siluanov rummages in his pockets, then there will be both maternity capital and 37 miG-35
        1. beech
          beech 27 August 2013 23: 36 New
          +2
          yes, if we make a salary like the majority of our citizens in our entire State Duma, we can conclude so many useful contracts that they will get tired at the plants
    3. waisson
      waisson 27 August 2013 18: 22 New
      +8
      I would be glad if we took first place in the supply of fighters and in general any equipment to the troops
    4. Suhov
      Suhov 27 August 2013 18: 51 New
      +5
      first arms dealer rule - don't be shot from own goods.
      recourse
      K-f "The Armory Baron".
      1. Turik
        Turik 27 August 2013 19: 52 New
        +1
        Not surprisingly, the Americans are plopping down with their super-powerful f-22, who are afraid to even get out of the OSI and sorry, three percent come with a hornless f35, which somehow flew into the air.
        On the contrary, we almost restored the capacities of our factories and brought up a new generation (and even the smartest) of designers.

        As for supplies to the troops, everything is simple here - our civilian economy is not yet a couple of the Soviet, unfortunately of course. We can even buy tomorrow a day for ourselves on the device per day, but we will remain without pants.
        1. Simon
          Simon 28 August 2013 06: 56 New
          0
          The stools must be put against the wall and their associates, then immediately a bunch of new aircraft in the troops will be.
      2. sea ​​peh
        sea ​​peh 27 August 2013 21: 15 New
        +4
        and soon they will have to defend themselves from their own weapons.
        1. Fire
          Fire 28 August 2013 13: 29 New
          0
          Moreover, VERY soon and in full program ... Plus all our air defense systems (S-300, S-400, and other systems), potential opponents can defend themselves against our MiGs and Sushki ...
    5. DPN
      DPN 27 August 2013 19: 54 New
      +7
      In our country, the system changed, in the USSR they worked for the state for this and the Army was considered popular and it was all the best. Now it’s a kapstroy and the same Chubais and the like that the Russian Army has, the dollars are over the hill, and they are citizens of the WORLD. For them, the main riot police is the protection of their property, not the army.
    6. beech
      beech 27 August 2013 23: 38 New
      +2
      224 new cars were exported.
      read the numbers ... but it could go to our air force, and not to the Vietnamese, Chinese, etc. ... but why should we supply ourselves, it’s better to buy shit from NATO (lynx, mistral ...)!
      P.S. For those who like to minus, please take into account the fact that this is only my subjective opinion
    7. Magadan
      Magadan 28 August 2013 05: 38 New
      -2
      Oh, what a horror !!! Probably Germans and Japanese should generally be shot for the fact that they export their cars! And you know, the Chinese, too, far from all can afford the consumer goods that they sell to foreign markets! And the United States, horror! In general, dollars are printed and they are being drawn into the whole world! It would not be possible to secure printed economies with their dollars!
      I really crap: the country earns money, and some of our citizens do not like it! Factories are debugging their production at the expense of normal volumes - and this turns out to be bad!
      She, guys, according to this logic, it turns out that the Japanese are round du.raki. They shouldn't trade their technique! All this technique they should keep "tilki for sebe"
      1. beech
        beech 28 August 2013 11: 53 New
        +3
        Duc, let's also trade in priors, not T90 ... not our fighters, but gazelles ... only now our army uses equipment that has been around for a hundred years at lunch.
        You probably don’t understand the difference between cars and military equipment
      2. Fire
        Fire 28 August 2013 13: 42 New
        0
        You do not confuse military defense equipment that protects us and civilian, which is designed for your own comfort ...
  2. Airman
    Airman 27 August 2013 16: 31 New
    +6
    It’s good to export, but it’s better to arm your Air Force first.
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 27 August 2013 16: 37 New
      +1
      You are right, of course, but exporting benefits and strengthens enterprises. A zos. Unfortunately, there are not many orders. Demand creates supply - there are orders for export, which means that this industry will develop
      1. Airman
        Airman 27 August 2013 17: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: il grand casino
        You are right, of course, but exporting benefits and strengthens enterprises. A zos. Unfortunately, there are not many orders. Demand creates supply - there are orders for export, which means that this industry will develop

        Benefit - benefit, but the country's defense should be put in the first place. Taking advantage of it, you can pros..t homeland. Napoleon: whoever does not feed (does not arm) his army will feed (arm) another's!
        1. il grand casino
          il grand casino 27 August 2013 19: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: Povshnik
          Quote: il grand casino
          You are right, of course, but exporting benefits and strengthens enterprises. A zos. Unfortunately, there are not many orders. Demand creates supply - there are orders for export, which means that this industry will develop

          Benefit - benefit, but the country's defense should be put in the first place. Taking advantage of it, you can pros..t homeland. Napoleon: whoever does not feed (does not arm) his army will feed (arm) another's!

          I proceeded from the fact that the army does not give orders. And in no case did not call for the need to drive equipment for export contrary to the army’s desire to buy it. But if you don’t want to buy your own (this is a completely different topic), or rather the army does not give money for it (this topic is even more dreary), then let the enterprises work even for export than they close
      2. Vtel
        Vtel 27 August 2013 17: 03 New
        +6
        It is necessary to strengthen the country's defense, of course, with modern equipment and a good salary for workers, not aces, sitting on their neck. And then a vicious circle will turn out - export is growing, and our native army is in line with an outstretched hand. After all, it is not known where the billions received flow out.
      3. Armata
        Armata 27 August 2013 17: 46 New
        +7
        Quote: il grand casino
        You are right, of course, but exporting benefits and strengthens enterprises. A zos. Unfortunately, there are not many orders. Demand creates supply - there are orders for export, which means that this industry will develop
        What strengthens? I can say for our industry. Money does not flow far to the manufacturer, and we are so consumables. Emerikos Veles25, where are you? He walked, zamusnovuval normal men and dumped. Visual policy for under-covers laughing
        1. il grand casino
          il grand casino 27 August 2013 19: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: Mechanic
          Quote: il grand casino
          You are right, of course, but exporting benefits and strengthens enterprises. A zos. Unfortunately, there are not many orders. Demand creates supply - there are orders for export, which means that this industry will develop
          What strengthens? I can say for our industry. Money does not flow far to the manufacturer, and we are so consumables. Emerikos Veles25, where are you? He walked, zamusnovuval normal men and dumped. Visual policy for under-covers laughing

          Well, in this case, the export itself is not to blame, but those who steer)))
  3. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 27 August 2013 16: 38 New
    10
    This year there will be 14 Su-34, 12 Su-30SM, 12 Su-35S, 4 MiG-29K, 18 Yak-130. Total 60 pcs. Plus the upgrade of the Mig-31BM, Su-25SM. This is by no means small, given that long ago our aircraft industry assembled an order of magnitude simpler cars, what is the Su-27 compared to the Su-35? what is the Su-24, in comparison with the Su-34 or MiG-29K and MiG-29 - this is heaven and earth ...
    The situation is similar for helicopters, Mi-8 and Mi-24 / 24P versus modern and sophisticated Mi-28N, Ka-52, Mi-35M, Mi-8AMTS, the pace is comparable, and the complexity of the equipment is simply epic. This year 12 Su- 30SM will go to Domna, and 12 Su-35S to Dzemgi.
    http://ria.ru/vl/20130817/956944703.html

    Different plants need to live. And so if you try on in comparison with the late Soviet realities ..
    Su-35S - "transitional" fighter of the Air Force, to replace the old Su-27
    Su-30SM - conditionally "fighter-bomber", niche MiG-27 and Su-17 of the 80s. Although the MiG-29SMT was planned for such a niche, and, perhaps, they will supplement the MiG-35
    Su-34 - front-line bomber, replacement of the Su-24 and, in part, the Tu-22M3. Plus another Su-34, IMHO, de facto our "electronic warfare aircraft" and "SEAD fighter". In what the Su-35 and Su-30 are not competitors to him.
    PAK FA- after 2020 will replace those su-27s (late release) that did not replace the su-35s
    PAK DA- will replace the Tu-95th
    PAK SHA - replacement of the Su-25
    Mig-29e go without replacement, either LFI or Su-30 / 35S will play their role.
    Yours! hi
  4. Airman
    Airman 27 August 2013 16: 50 New
    +3
    Sell ​​- we sell, albeit at reduced prices, we get a billion green candy wrappers, which in small part go to the economy, but we don't always think to whom we are selling? Indeed, in some cases, we arm our potential adversary, who then creates "clones" and begins to compete with us. And God forbid, our pilots will have to fight with this sold equipment. It would be nice if the equipment sold would be bookmarked, disabling it when acting against us.
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER 27 August 2013 17: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Povshnik
      And God forbid, our pilots will have to fight with this sold equipment. It would be nice if bookmarks were put in the sold equipment, which would incapacitate it when acting against us.

      On the one hand, of course, it’s good, but on the other, I do not agree with this practice, and suddenly the codes for these bookmarks will go to the aggressor, or they will be hacked, no, let’s better the equipment will be 100% reliable, and they won’t go against us, t .to. we are not selling the best .. the T-50 example is sharpened for the successful destruction of all aircraft of the 4 ++ generation, both ours and ours ..
  5. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 27 August 2013 16: 51 New
    +2
    Although it’s a shame that at first we deliver to a stranger and then to ourselves .. And yet they are young !! With such competition .. And Russia will be even cooler, I'm sure !!!
  6. S-200
    S-200 27 August 2013 16: 55 New
    +4
    The aviation industry is pulling for itself the development of a long chain whose links are not only high-tech enterprises, but also research institutes, universities for the training of highly qualified personnel, and so on. large aviation infrastructure ...
    The export-oriented development of the aviation industry allows, above all, to support development - at a fairly high competitive scientific and technical level, albeit not across the entire spectrum of LTH and avionics, but still ...
    If the aviation industry (and any "industrial") is completely reoriented to production for their own needs, then, like any closed system "for itself", its development will first slow down, and then completely turn into scientific and technical, technological and industrial stagnation ...
    With an inevitable lag for those years that we will work only "for ourselves" ...
    The state will inevitably strive to buy airplanes and services for their maintenance at prices clearly lower than world prices, which will naturally affect the entire aviation industry.
    And this dialectic of development, it seems, is not shared by me alone ..
    .
    1. Airman
      Airman 27 August 2013 17: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: S-200
      The aviation industry is pulling for itself the development of a long chain whose links are not only high-tech enterprises, but also research institutes, universities for the training of highly qualified personnel, and so on. large aviation infrastructure ...
      The export-oriented development of the aviation industry allows, above all, to support development - at a fairly high competitive scientific and technical level, albeit not across the entire spectrum of LTH and avionics, but still ...
      If the aviation industry (and any "industrial") is completely reoriented to production for their own needs, then, like any closed system "for itself", its development will first slow down, and then completely turn into scientific and technical, technological and industrial stagnation ...
      With an inevitable lag for the years that we will work "for ourselves" ...
      And this dialectic of development, it seems, is not shared by me alone ..
      .
      bully

      I do not agree with you, if the most modern equipment, which has no analogues in the world, is immediately sold for export, then this is complete idiocy. Imagine the MiG-25 not in its own Air Force, but in the Warsaw Treaty Air Force or in one of the developing countries? That was?
      1. S-200
        S-200 27 August 2013 17: 20 New
        +4
        Quote: Povshnik
        if the most modern equipment, which has no analogues in the world, is immediately sold for export, then this is complete idiocy

        in Soviet times, I was engaged in the maintenance, repair and operation of equipment "unparalleled in the world", which in the export version was delivered to various countries, both the Warsaw Pact and Iraq, Syria, Libya ...
        and there was NOTHING terrible in THIS!
        As well as training foreign personnel for its operation and maintenance ...
        1. Airman
          Airman 28 August 2013 08: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: S-200

          in Soviet times, I was engaged in the maintenance, repair and operation of equipment "unparalleled in the world", which in the export version was delivered to various countries, both the Warsaw Pact and Iraq, Syria, Libya ...
          and there was NOTHING terrible in THIS!
          As well as training foreign personnel for its operation and maintenance ...

          As far as I know, the KUB air defense system was initially supplied only in the Union, and only after 7-8 years, in a "cut-down" export version, as KVADRAT, they began to export. Not the way it is now.
  7. indiggo
    indiggo 27 August 2013 16: 58 New
    +1
    and there will be a holiday on our street smile , everything will depend on the situation in the world.
  8. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 27 August 2013 16: 59 New
    0
    first place for export deliveries and last in his army
    1. S-200
      S-200 27 August 2013 17: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Soldier's grandson
      first place for export deliveries and last in his army

      it is necessary to identify its shortcomings in different climatic zones with a different mentality and development of exploiters and adversaries, and only then finalize it in a series and improve FOR YOURSELF !
      this is the state approach to rearm!
      bully
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 27 August 2013 19: 15 New
        0
        Quote: S-200
        it is necessary to identify its shortcomings in different climatic zones with a different mentality and development of exploiters and adversaries, and only then finalize it in a series and improve FOR YOURSELF!

        This is sensible. But also do not forget to take into account the wishes and comments of your pilots.
        And for this, the equipment must be supplied to the troops for break-in.
      2. Hitrovan07
        Hitrovan07 27 August 2013 20: 06 New
        +1
        Doesn't it take too much time now to "improve for yourself"? You may simply not be in time.
  9. a52333
    a52333 27 August 2013 17: 06 New
    +4
    It’s not worth the Chinese to sell SU-35, they will crawl around nigos with rulers
  10. Airman
    Airman 27 August 2013 17: 17 New
    +2
    Some sort of aphid started, minus all, and for which - is silent. I do not deny my opponents, if there is anything to argue about.
    1. a52333
      a52333 27 August 2013 17: 26 New
      +1
      You are in such a rank that you can not pay attention to minuses. Let Aphids have fun. By the way, they also sculpt me - -
  11. IRBIS
    IRBIS 27 August 2013 17: 23 New
    +7
    "... the number of delivered and planned for delivery of new Russian multipurpose fighters, according to TSAMTO, is 372 aircraft worth about 17,1 billion dollars ..."
    "... the second place in terms of quantity for the period 2009-2016, with a slight lag behind Russia, is occupied by the United States (329 fighters worth $ 31,1 billion) ..."


    It’s strange. We delivered more cars, and received almost half the money. At the same time, we say that our aircraft is superior to foreign models. Is this a sign of the cheapness of our technology or competent management among the Americans? Of course, I am far from trading in aircraft. However, the difference in numbers is obvious and raises some questions that I cannot answer.
    1. a52333
      a52333 27 August 2013 17: 30 New
      +1
      This is a rollback for security. Although you can call racketeering.
    2. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 27 August 2013 17: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: IRBIS
      It’s strange. We delivered more cars, and received almost half the money.


      I completely agree with you! And the British for 84 pcs received 12.1 billion!
      1. S-200
        S-200 27 August 2013 17: 40 New
        -1
        Quote: ayyildiz
        And the British for 84 pieces received 12.1 billion!

        but the Chinese comrades for such a large airline wholesale would be very happy with our money! bully
        1. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 27 August 2013 23: 42 New
          0
          Russia is not China. You should never look at them in the sale of weapons! Other product qualities!
    3. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 27 August 2013 17: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: IRBIS
      Of course, I am far from trading in aircraft.

      It is ancologic, Alexander, but the money figure also confused and attracted attention ...


      The penny, of course, is also not frail, but, damn it, the domestic manufacturer could have been supported even more steeply, all profitability in 7 years simply pales with the "olyampada" - it was possible to fill the airfields with equipment to the navel (I apologize for the harshness of the flyers).
    4. Corneli
      Corneli 27 August 2013 18: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: IRBIS
      It’s strange. We delivered more cars, and received almost half the money. At the same time, we say that our aircraft is superior to foreign models. Is this a sign of the cheapness of our technology or competent management among the Americans? Of course, I am far from trading in aircraft. However, the difference in numbers is obvious and raises some questions that I cannot answer.

      That yes, the numbers (in terms of money), of course, unpleasantly hurts the eyes (. And then questions naturally arise ... on the one hand, it is clear that Western aviation is much more expensive (another wage scale, another salary, a lot of "gadgets" are not too even the necessary ones ... but making the plane much more expensive.) But in spite of all this, WHY ?! high-quality goods, at a much lower price, are inferior in contracts (for the money received). and it is absolutely crazy that in civil In aviation, the ABSOLUTE PERFORMANCE belongs to Western companies (this is where INCOME! A lot of the eyes are on the forehead from contracts! () and Russian companies fly on Boeings and airbuses (and not so long ago, civil aircraft of the USSR had almost 70% ... in the world !) In general, it is strange and incomprehensible ...
      P.S. Considering that the export of military men (and especially fighters) is almost the only high-tech niche in Russia (in terms of demand and money flow to the country) that brings large incomes and raises the status, it is strange that there are not enough orders (and within the country in the first place). After all, competent advertising and increasing capacities (of this kind of products) is not just the receipt of money in the budget and keeping enterprises afloat ... it is also a geopolitical aspect, and the retention of personnel, and the development of high-tech production. but the feeling that the government is more likely to use oil and banks more "turned" (And in vain ...
    5. Jack122
      Jack122 28 August 2013 02: 57 New
      +2
      I also wanted to write about it. It would be foolish to supply weapons at cost and pride ourselves on selling more than others. Interestingly "efficiency": how much they wind up and how much net profit they get from the sale of weapons, because the Americans and even the British can easily bypass us in profitability, despite the fact that the Naglo-Saxons sold weapons for a much smaller amount. Maybe someone will explain, because the United Aircraft Corporation is balancing from a scanty profit to a loss
  12. solomon
    solomon 27 August 2013 17: 25 New
    +4
    Russia ranks first in terms of the number of fighters set for export in 2009-2012.

    KEEP IT UP!
  13. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 27 August 2013 17: 36 New
    +2
    Russian Helicopters holding will deliver five Mi-171A1 helicopters and five Ka-62 helicopters to Colombia, the corresponding contracts were signed on Tuesday at the MAKS-2013 air show in Moscow.

    It is planned that the Mi-171A1 helicopters will be used by a subsidiary of Vertical de Aviacion in Mexico for cargo and passenger transportation, RIA Novosti reports.

    Helicopters Ka-62 are designed for operation in Colombia in the interests of the national oil company Ecopetrol.

    It is expected that deliveries of the Mi-171A1 will begin in 2015, and deliveries of the Ka-62 from 2016.

    Recall that other countries in the region show great interest in aviation technology from Russia. So, in early July, representatives of Bolivia decided to buy two Mi-17 helicopters from Russia to combat drug trafficking.

    And in April, it was reported about the transfer by Russia of the S-300VM air defense system to Venezuela.

    Last year, Russia announced a number of possible military contracts with countries in South America. It was about Brazil, Argentina and Venezuela. It was noted that some of the contracts signed in the field of military-technical cooperation with Venezuela have already been completed, and some are under implementation. Yours faithfully! hi
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 27 August 2013 17: 53 New
      +4
      quote-In Zhukovsky, the 11-th International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2013 begins its work.


      1. S-200
        S-200 27 August 2013 18: 27 New
        +1
        amused people in the bottom video!
        journalist not even knowing the types of aircraft in his country , at the mention of the T-50
        issued a flagged duty phrase "Who has no a-analogs VAASCHE in the world!"
        wassat
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  15. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 27 August 2013 18: 20 New
    +1
    It would be better if she won first place for the largest number of new fighters in their ranks
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 27 August 2013 18: 26 New
      +3
      Here is the first as they say swallow news. good


      Have a contract
      .............
      First contracts

      The first deal concluded at the MAKS-2013 air show was a contract between Sukhoi Civil Aircraft and UTair for the supply of six Sukhoi Superjet 2014 Long Range airliners in 100 in the year. SSJ-100 aircraft will be handed over under leasing terms; their total catalog value will amount to 217,2 million dollars. UTair plans to use them on domestic flights in Siberia and Europe.
      The catalog price of SSJ-100 is 35,4 million dollars in the base version and 36,2 million dollars in the LR version - with an increased range.
      UTair also signed a memorandum of understanding with VEB-Leasing on intent to lease ten MC-21-300 aircraft manufactured by Irkut Corporation (part of UAC). Aircraft will be delivered from 2018 to 2020 year. The catalog value of MS-21 is about 83 million dollars.

      According to AviaPort agency, a memorandum on the purchase of 30 MS-21 aircraft between VEB leasing and Irkut Corporation, signed at the Le Bourget air show in June of this year, will also be translated into a solid contract on Tuesday. The amount of the contract is estimated at 2,5 billion dollars in catalog prices. It is assumed that 10 MS-21 aircraft are acquired for UTair, and 6 for Transaero. The transfer of UTair aircraft is planned for the 2018-2020 of the year, and in Transaero - from 2020 to 2021 of the year.

      Ilyushin Finance agreed with Vnesheconombank and Roseximbank on the supply of An-148 and An-158 aircraft to Cuba. The company said earlier that this year it will send three An-158 aircraft to Cuba.

      Russian Helicopters Holding signed a contract for the supply of five Mi-171A1 helicopters and five Ka-62 helicopters to Colombia. It is planned that the Mi-171A1 helicopters will be used by a subsidiary of Vertical de Aviacion in Mexico for cargo and passenger transportation. Ka-62 helicopters are designed for use in Colombia for the benefit of Ecopetrol, a national oil company. It is expected that deliveries of the Mi-171A1 will begin in the 2015 year, and deliveries of the Ka-62 from the 2016 year.
      http://www.vz.ru/top/
  16. Nikaviz
    Nikaviz 27 August 2013 18: 26 New
    +2
    I didn’t even start voting .... "We sell, we sell, ... and ourselves with a bare ass ... then 3 pieces, then 5 pieces per year." Stinks of hucksters and traitors .... Army to protect the Moscow region. although the country and territory is the largest in the world ... (WILD ... !!!!)
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 27 August 2013 19: 34 New
      +4
      Last year 35 pieces, this will be more 60.

      Falling apart at an accelerated pace! bully
  17. alexpro66
    alexpro66 27 August 2013 18: 32 New
    -6
    Quote: Mechanic
    Quote: il grand casino
    You are right, of course, but exporting benefits and strengthens enterprises. A zos. Unfortunately, there are not many orders. Demand creates supply - there are orders for export, which means that this industry will develop
    What strengthens? I can say for our industry. Money does not flow far to the manufacturer, and we are so consumables. Emerikos Veles25, where are you? He walked, zamusnovuval normal men and dumped. Visual policy for under-covers laughing

    Again you fill! What is YOUR INDUSTRY ?? Or specify exactly how much "your industry" gets from the equipment sold! Washpa industry - trolling and fairy tales!
  18. AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 27 August 2013 18: 37 New
    +4
    Russia ranks first in terms of the number of fighters set for export in 2009-2012.

    FIRST THINK ABOUT MOTHERLAND, AND THEN ABOUT YOUR POCKET - unfortunately this is not about our military-political leadership. Are they patriots?
    Putin: "You cannot create a healthy society, a prosperous country, guided by the principle" everyone is for himself ", following the primitive instincts of intolerance, selfishness and dependency."
    "A separate topic is everything related to military-patriotic education. (...) I have repeatedly met with members of military-historical societies, fighters of search units. Of course, such work deserves all kinds of support. These people, especially young people, young guys are really doing a very useful, necessary, noble cause. Such civil initiatives certainly need to be supported in every way. This fully applies to the military training of the younger generation, to increase the public prestige of military service. (...) In this regard, I wanted to I would like to draw the attention of both the Minister of Defense and our other colleagues to the need to develop technical sports.In recent years, we have been talking and developing both mass sports and sports of high achievements, and they have forgotten about technical sports. they are closely related to patriotic education and preparation for service in the Armed Forces. "

    Vladimir Putin: Financing in the amount of 20 trillion rubles is provided for a comprehensive program for the rearmament of the army and navy. until 2020 and another 3 trillion rubles. - to modernize the production of enterprises of the military-industrial complex. He noted that one of the priorities is the development of precision weapons and nuclear deterrence.

    WE WILL HOPE FOR ONCE ONLY THAT THE LATEST WEAPONS AND EQUIPMENT WILL COME TO THE ARMY. THAT WE DO NOT GET THE WAY Serdyukov and the gop company ...
  19. shitovmg
    shitovmg 27 August 2013 19: 07 New
    0
    Well, the plants are working !!!! And in our outback, they stop. A crisis. This was not even in the 90s. So, this export also supports us, at least it gives us faith!
  20. ankh-andrej
    ankh-andrej 27 August 2013 19: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: xasharat
    They would have sold us a couple of dozen sushki and twigs (((((((((((((not in Sweden ... I'm from Baku)

    So what's the question? Now MiG does not know how to launch the 35ki series. There are no customers. The Ministry of Defense drove by the nose buy-not buy. And when they matured, it turned out that no one was preparing production. Harness yourself and by 2016 you will have MiGs of the latest modification. Look at MAX 2013 you can just sign a contract. There the Mig-35 was on display.
  21. Karabin
    Karabin 27 August 2013 19: 18 New
    +1
    In the first 4-year period (2009-2012), 224 new cars worth about $ 9 billion were delivered for export,

    Who knows how many of 224 cars went to Syria?
  22. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 27 August 2013 19: 21 New
    -4
    The more countries we sell our fighter jets (but not the technology ..) the more dependent they will be on us .. We just know all their weaknesses and, of course, in the event of which they will quickly be destroyed .. So the issue is controversial .. And stamp we will always be in time for ourselves .. Everything goes the way (no need to panic ..)))
  23. ankh-andrej
    ankh-andrej 27 August 2013 19: 25 New
    0
    Dasso - 18 aircraft in the amount of 2,36 billion dollars (calculation of the total cost of the expected contract with the Indian Air Force for the supply of Rafal fighters).

    Well, let them expect. They will wait a long time. “In anticipation of next year’s parliamentary elections, the opposition, in the form of Bharatiya Janata Party, accused the government of Manmohan Singh of pursuing a policy that threatens to collapse the“ Indian economic miracle ”and put an end to China’s ambitions to become Asia’s economic superpower. The question of the fate of the rupee and the prospects for the Indian economy is becoming a key topic in the pace of the election campaign. ”
    http://www.armstrade.org/includes/periodics/news/2013/0827/100019958/detail.shtm
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  24. DPN
    DPN 27 August 2013 20: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
    And where will you find the money to update the fleet?. The Ministry of Finance is reducing the "maternity capital". And the supply for export, too, "its" Air Force, Think. By the way, for information, the delivery of the SU-30MKI abroad costs 40 million tanks. VVS-12 mln. Delivery of one, compensates 3 for us.

    It looks like Medvedev’s plan to restore the population of Russia has reached its peak, there is no need for an excess of population and a reduction in the capital. In the UNION, oil and gas were enough for 300 million and only 140 mln of us.
  25. Manager
    Manager 27 August 2013 20: 34 New
    +2
    And in the supply of gas and oil, we are also the first. Just something simple people like it is not warm not cold.
  26. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 27 August 2013 20: 35 New
    0
    Quote: MIKHAN
    The more countries we sell our fighter jets (but not the technology ..) the more dependent they will be on us .. We just know all their weaknesses and, of course, in the event of which they will quickly be destroyed .. So the issue is controversial .. And stamp we will always be in time for ourselves .. Everything goes the way (no need to panic ..)))

    Well, you can of course minus it (just for what .. ??). It’s better to sell than natural resources .. This is the prestige of the state and an indicator of its power in technology .. And in case of war we have a decent answer (in the same aviation ..) like that !!!
  27. Rus2012
    Rus2012 27 August 2013 21: 30 New
    +3

    A group of three T-50 fighters conducted a group demonstration flight as part of the MAKS-2013 air show, which opened on Tuesday in Zhukovsky near Moscow.

    After two of the three fighters landed, the remaining T-50 under the control of test pilot Hero of Russia Sergei Bogdan showed a six-minute aerobatics program.
    my photos.
  28. sad33
    sad33 27 August 2013 21: 58 New
    +1
    what the fuck 17 billion ???? what nonsense ??? and OFFICIALLY WITHDRAWED FROM RUSSIA $ 400 Billion for 2010-2012 ... why all this?
  29. AlexP47
    AlexP47 27 August 2013 22: 03 New
    0
    Combat aircraft must be exported as soon as possible! Perhaps even with little damage to their own air force. The aviation market is a priority for advanced economies. If our country is ousted from this market, the end of the aviation industry. On some internal orders you will not fly far.
  30. maksim
    maksim 27 August 2013 23: 47 New
    +1
    a madhouse, the first in the exporter and the first in the protection of "coffins" at the airfield from plundering on non-ferrous metal
  31. Cormorants
    Cormorants 28 August 2013 07: 04 New
    0
    How many multi-headed creature sits in control, just in shock. Shooting, only shooting, can make a difference, life is the most precious thing for which a person is shaking, regardless of wealth and fame.
  32. sudaa
    sudaa 28 August 2013 08: 30 New
    -1
    All this is certainly great! But we have a lot of issues in aviation. Rearmament is very slow. Maybe it’s really better to sell everything, then we’ll buy something faster for aviation .....