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Syria. Disturbing thoughts following upcoming events

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Syria. Disturbing thoughts following upcoming events



Recently, I read a lot of opinions of members of the forum about Syria. I could not resist and decided to express my thoughts on this matter. I do not pretend to a depth analysis of the geopolitical and military aspects of the conflict, I just allow myself to express in the text those anxieties and considerations that constantly sit in my head and do not give rest. Especially now, when the situation is tangibly tense, and many are wondering whether they will be hit or not.

I think it is no secret that the events in Libya and Syria are interconnected and the links of one chain. The situations there are in many ways similar in the original scenario, but very different in their development consequences. It all starts the same way - in states with internal contradictions, protests against government policies are provoked, then unknown snipers appear, riots, then unknown militants appear attacking police stations and military units, and then a massive injection into the media about bloody regimes that kill their own people ... All this we know. In Libya, we did not interfere, we intervened in the events in Syria. As they say, the result is obvious. But in Syria, everything else, the situation is much more complicated, Syria is surrounded by rather hostile states (Israel, Turkey, and, as it turned out, Jordan). Only Lebanon and Iraq are neutral. There was no such thing in Libya, but there was a long sea coast, and the enemies of the country took advantage of it to crush the forces of loyal Gaddafi into separate centers of resistance. Intervene, we then, but do not change Libya to the WTO - everything could be different and tens of thousands of lives could be saved, but what happened happened ...

I have a firm conviction that all the same in the near future, strikes on Syria will be inflicted. And I will try to explain why I think so. In Syria, the interests of too many countries and the poles of power are currently concentrated. For a start, it makes sense to disassemble the goals (the most obvious) of the opponents and allies of Syria, and their interests, even if very rude. Let's start with the neighboring states - Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and even Israel are interested at least in weakening the SAR. At the same time, each of them has its own interests, but they all became common within the framework of the destruction or weakening of Syria.

Let's start with the simplest - Israel. As though representatives of Israel did not speak dismissively about the armed forces of Syria, nevertheless for them this is probably the only real threat in the region at the moment, since it is the only militarily powerful country with which Israel has a border and which is not connected with Israel by any peace treaties. Turkey, with which Israel has strained relations, to put it mildly, is much further away, and although it is technically equipped better than Syria, it does not pose a direct threat to Israel (at least for now). Therefore, with all this, Israel is extremely interested, if not in weakening the country, then in changing the political course of Syria for sure. In the meantime, Assad is in power - his pro-Israel, completely independent policy, unlike Jordan, is hardly possible. Well, the main thing - Syria - an ally of Iran. Those. in a hypothetical future, if suddenly, God forbid, a serious conflict between Israel and Iran occurs, then the Iranian ground forces and the IRGC will have a bridgehead for an overland invasion of Israel and the territory for its Air Force and missile forces, which is immediate and serious for Israel threat to national security. With the modern politics of Iraq - this option does not seem too fantastic. Israel has no such bridgeheads. Therefore, the policy of Israel, I at least understand. It now seems to them that even Wahhabi chaos with single missile launches across its territory may seem less evil than the Iranian army with tactical missiles within 100km from the state border ...

Further Saudi Arabia and Qatar - here it’s probably not a question of survival, but a question of money, a question of influence. These countries have entered into a temporary alliance with Turkey in order to destroy competing countries that can claim future leadership in the Arab / Muslim world of the Middle East. There were a lot of such applicants before - Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Syria ... Look who's left now. The monarchies of the Persian Gulf countries are looking far ahead, I understand perfectly well that in the future they will be able to survive only by creating a center of power under one leadership, and naturally, each of them wants to see this leadership as his own. Syria in this regard prevents them from interfering with the fact that it is an ally of Iran, that it is pursuing a relatively independent policy of monarchies, and it is also a conductor of the policies of other players (Russia and China), which greatly complicates the rather comfortable existence of these states as a political and economically (the development of the pipeline network from Qatar through Syria to Europe is constrained by the presence of Russian interests in Syria). Accordingly, since neither Qatar nor Saudi Arabia possesses strong combat-ready armies, they prefer to influence the situation with an available resource, namely money.

Next Turkey. With Turkey, it seems to me all the more difficult. Turkey has interests in Syria — it’s not even so much an influence — as a question of ambitions, very big and serious. Erdogan may have threatened to restore the Ottoman Empire, albeit in a smaller format, but nevertheless, at least a significant expansion of the sphere of influence of Turkey in the region. And the natural opponent here is Syria with Iran standing behind its back. Turkey has a powerful and well-equipped army to solve these tasks, and NATO is behind it. To fight Iran, you need to start to change the power in Syria, and even better break up the country into fragments and then put the authorities loyal to the Turkish authorities. Unlike Saudi Arabia, the Turks were not afraid to use their special forces for operations in Syria. They are much more determined and dangerous than the Saudis, and they are most interested in the destruction of Syria as a single state. And Erdogan is unlikely to accept the fact that Assad will be able to defeat the militants and regain control of the country. Of course, sooner or later, Turkey will grapple with Saudi Arabia, this is inevitable (and the events on Taksim Square, it seems to me, were just the prologue of these future events), but for the time being, these different players have a common goal - they will play agreed.

Now global level - Great Britain and France (and for the most part the whole EU) - well, besides the execution of commands from the US, I think the EU is interested in increasing alternative energy supplies to Russia in order to reduce the dependence of industrialized EU countries on the Russian Federation. This seems to me to be the main reasons, i.e. in this they simply play along with Qatar. Naturally, we are not talking about any democratic values.

And the last and most important thing is the USA. We can speak very, very much about the goals of the United States (or rather, not even the United States, but for people who make decisions in the United States to please supranational government structures). The goal is primary and the simplest and most obvious - the weakening of Iran’s position in the region. A more serious goal is to oust Russia and China from the Middle East region. The main goal is to drag the region into the center of complete destabilization, with the subsequent escalation of this destabilization to Central Asia, Russia and Europe, and subsequently to the western borders of China. Bleeding everyone with everyone and undermining the economy of all potential US competitors in the world. US forces (military and economic) will beware for the subsequent global confrontation with a weakened China and Russia (or rather, not even confrontation, but active action). About Europe, most likely it is not necessary to speak. From my narrow-minded point of view, the plan is very, very risky, with a huge number of variables, a completely unobvious result, but once it began to be implemented, it means that the alternatives are even worse, at least for its authors ...

Now about the allies of Syria - they are few ...

China - China is faced with the fact that he began to lose investments in other countries. A number of coups in African countries led to squeezing the PRC from there, then there was Libya, now Syria. Syria is, first of all, an attempt to protect its economic interests, and the first serious attempt to snap at the United States in the future global confrontation at long-range borders. But no more than that. It’s simply unrealistic to expect decisive military action from China ...

Iran - with all the rhetoric that is degrading Iran, this is a completely self-sufficient and strong state that survived more than one blockade, the hardest protracted war of attrition with Iraq (and not only with Iraq) and despite this it managed to develop its scientific and technical potential to a sufficiently serious level. Iran has been conducting an independent policy for quite a long time, and despite the efforts of very many countries, it has quite a large influence in the region. The main and most powerful opponent of Iran in the region is Israel. Israel, as a country possessing sufficiently large stocks of nuclear weapons, strong air force and missile technology represents a direct threat to the security of Iran. To compensate for these advantages, Iran is actively developing missile technology and has as an ally Syria as a direct means of pressure on Israel in the event of a conflict. Without Syria, Iran loses this tool and becomes significantly more vulnerable to preventive strikes until the creation of its own nuclear weapons. As soon as this moment comes, Syria’s value for Iran will diminish, since Iran will be able to ensure its security by medium-range missiles with nuclear warheads, but even in this scenario Syria is very necessary for Iran. Therefore, Iran will hold on to it for as long as possible, helping equipment, ammunition and troops if required.

Russia - here with our country the most difficult attempt to conduct an analysis. For our part, this is not only an attempt to save Gazprom, and as a result, the budget of Russia. There is more like a struggle for survival, an attempt to stop the approaching chaos, to create at least some kind of system of alliances from adequate states to resist the coming shock wave (or rather the war), which will inevitably cover us soon and try to gain time and save international law. And the policy of our country cannot but cause satisfaction - the official position of non-interference of external forces and the refusal of intervention, compliance with international law and strict observance of all laws, and at the same time non-advertised support for Syria, the supply of weapons and equipment, information support and information warfare. The only effective and flexible, correct position. It is effective, though, if only because the invasion was actually postponed for a year and a half. As the saying goes, "Practice is the criterion of truth ..." if it works, then it is true.

But, with all this analysis, very rude, the situation with the world in the region is still, although it’s not stable anyway, much better than war. But the leaders of countries interested in stirring up fires do not seem to understand this. Why? Because each of them believes that he is keeping the situation under control.

Now about the prospects. Everything that happened in the last year in the domestic, and as a result in the foreign policy of the USA, is a consequence of the most serious internal struggle. We have decided to simplify everything - there are hawks and pigeons. The hawks put pressure on Obama, he resists them. But it seems to me not so simple. People like DA Medvedev is sitting not only in the Russian Federation, but as practice shows, there are such in the EU, in the USA and in many other countries. Those. these people pursue a policy advantageous to supra-government structures, and not by the national interests of these countries. A classic example is modern France. I would venture to suggest that in the United States the struggle is between the US patriots led by Obama and these people serving supranational interests. And I can not say that Obama is a bad president. He understands perfectly well what the US’s policies are trying to push through, and he desperately resists it. But again, judging by the latest events, his faction loses, or has already lost. And that means losing the US themselves. It seems that the decision has already been made, the deployment of strike groups in the region has begun. Turkey has intensified, France and Great Britain are making extraordinarily militant statements and sending attack planes and equipment to the forward bases. The mechanism spun, and it would be more expensive to stop it than to let it go to full speed. Problems with the economy do not confuse anyone - neither France nor the UK - barely got out of the past crisis. The position of Germany can no longer stop anyone. The US economy is now on the growth stimulated by the printing of money, the population and the near-minded pseudo-economists have the illusion that the crisis is over, so many will swallow another victorious campaign against the bloodthirsty regime in Syria. And when the effect of the printing press will end (and it will definitely end, and many far-sighted people understand this perfectly) - what will the United States be with? But this is not important yet, the main chaos in the Middle East and Central Asia. And the same people who are pumping up the situation with Syria will donate the United States as well as all other countries, if necessary, in their global policy of manipulating it means nothing.



But the whole cynicism of the situation is that none of the player states will benefit from the fall of Syria. Qatar and Europe will not receive reliable gas supplies through the gas pipeline through Syria, Israel will receive instead of one, even if not very friendly, but nevertheless predicted state a bunch of feudal-fragmented principalities or rather jamaats stuffed with weapons (including chemical) from arsenals Syria, Turkey will receive a Kurdish autonomous region with Kurds feeling freedom, armed with heavy armored vehicles, while Saudi Arabia risks remaining without any influence or at war with gangs, spon supported by the Turks. And the United States - at first they will certainly achieve their original goals, but what will happen next? At least someone will be able to predict how events will develop in a couple of months after the change of power in Syria. Livia, before my eyes, but I repeat, there were no such influential and belligerent neighbor states. Yes, and Egypt - from the same area as an example. I am afraid that wars will begin between militants supported by different states, tribes, then it will all spread to Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain ... Who will stop all this by force of forces? A rhetorical question ...

How events will develop - I am sure that most likely according to the Libyan scenario - strikes with cruise missiles, then bombing, then special forces under the guise of militants (and the militants themselves) at key points, and then open input of "peacekeeping" forces. All this under the picture in the media about the atrocities of the government forces. Turkey can immediately try to invade and occupy the territory controlled by the militants ...

What can Syria do - only one thing - to resist and hold out as long as possible, shoot down as many planes as possible, try to attack ships on the coast and destroy as many militants as possible. Time will work on Syria and against the aggressors.

What can Iran do - if Iran understands that resistance in Syria is not immediately suppressed and the country resists, and Russia continues ideological, informational and military-technical support - by agreement through Iranian territory they can transfer a limited military contingent, they can threaten the United States to mine the Strait of Hormuz and defiantly do it on a smaller scale. By conducting an operation against Syria, the United States will not be able to immediately switch to Iran, and this may give just that delay of several months, which can give an economic effect during the blockade of the strait. Everything will depend on the situation. The longer Syria can hold on, the more likely it is to survive as an independent country.

What Russia - I am sure that all military technical measures have already been taken, everything that is needed in Syria has been delivered. We need only one thing - not to give up and not give up the slack. Deliver weapons to Tartus (as long as it is possible), send ammunition, send intelligence, interfere, provide information support, treat the Syrian wounded, assist in troop control, wage information war and constantly defend their position at the diplomatic level, maintain diplomatic pressure on the state aggressors , constantly raise the issue of stopping aggression in the UN (at least China would support us in this). I see no other options. The troops will not enter there, it is almost impossible, to supply them will not work in large quantities. But the main thing is to prepare ourselves for “democratization”. Probably the most important thing now is to withdraw all the reserves from the US securities and bring this money into the boom of industry and agriculture. Develop an army. And if Syria does not succeed in defending, fight for Iran, as if someone did not like it. We no longer have countries capable of resisting western chaos.

Well, a bit of common thought. You know, we are all very fortunate that we live in Russia and belong to Russian culture, Russian worldview, based on a sense of justice ... For it gives me the impression that it looks like we are the only ones who resist the chaos of the new world war. Despite the collapse, the dominance of traitors and thieves in all echelons of power, the country is trying to stop this darkness that goes to the whole world. Will it, time will tell. But I believe that will work out. It will be a long, hard road, but it must be passed.
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  1. smel
    smel 28 August 2013 06: 59
    52
    Missile cruiser Moskva was not supposed to go to Venezuela
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 28 August 2013 07: 05
      34
      What will be our actions, already tired of simple chatter, statements. We are waiting for real action!
      1. avt
        avt 28 August 2013 08: 46
        48
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        What will be our actions, already tired of simple chatter, statements. We are waiting for real action!

        Which ones ?? Bomb the Pentagon? Or London? Do not twitch, there is intense work at the level of diplomats and judging by the excerpts from the statements of the same Barak Khuseinovich - with varying success. Nobody begs anyone. The main thing is that the Syrians of Assad do not merge as Saddam, but so far this has not been observed. mind is not necessary. How to finish it - that is the question, but it is better not to start. It's fun on the Internet to hang your flags over a white madhouse.
        1. Retx
          Retx 28 August 2013 09: 27
          22
          I now go to foreign sites. So there they throw proposals to us one by one. Well, for example, "Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria" / Putin ordered a massive strike on Saudi Arabia in the event of a West attack on Syria. How do you like it? laughing
          Our "experts" are also not lagging behind: Test nuclear weapons on Novaya Zemlya and send troops into Spratia The Baltic states lol
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 28 August 2013 10: 08
            +5
            By the way!
            British "Telegraph" published information about the backroom talks between Vladimir Putin and the Saudi prince Bandar bin Sultan, who leads the intelligence of Saudi Arabia. The subject and topic of the talks were agreed with the American side, that is, they were conducted with the knowledge of Barack Hussein Obama.
            Bandar put forward the following proposals in exchange for Russia's refusal to support the Bashar al-Assad regime:

            1. Conclude a broad agreement to control the global oil market in order to maintain oil prices above the Russian budget’s sensitive price of about 100 dollars per barrel.

            2. Saudi Arabia will not contribute to the construction of alternative gas pipelines to Europe, understanding the interests of the Russian side.

            From the side of Bandar, words were said that Chechen fighters fighting with Syria are controlled by Saudi Arabia. He assured that they were attracted by Saudi Arabia to conduct operations against the Syrian regime and does not pose a real threat.

            In addition, the Bedouin said that, if Putin agrees to refuse to support Assad, Saudi Arabia guarantees Russia the safety of the Sochi Olympics.

            In its publication, "Telegraph" refers to the Lebanese newspaper Al-Safir, which is supported by the Lebanese "Hezbollah" - the enemy of Saudi Arabia in the Middle East.

            In conclusion, Telegraph points out that Iran is threatening retaliation from the Western coalition for striking Syria.

            M. Beilis

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10266957/Saudis
            -offer-Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html
            1. Crocodile
              Crocodile 28 August 2013 10: 21
              13
              British "Telegraph" published information about the backroom talks between Vladimir Putin and the Saudi prince Bandar bin Sultan, who leads the intelligence of Saudi Arabia. The subject and topic of the talks were agreed with the American side, that is, they were conducted with the knowledge of Barack Hussein Obama.
              DUCK 100%! Beautifully doused! This is the INFORMATION WAR!
              Such secrets DO NOT RETURN if they are going to fulfill them!
              THIS IS A THIN HINT, but what if not in our opinion ...
              1. klimpopov
                klimpopov 28 August 2013 10: 27
                +2
                Well, in general, this is obvious. For that and posted.
              2. nycsson
                nycsson 28 August 2013 13: 36
                -4
                Quote: Crocodile
                THIS IS A THIN HINT, but what if not in our opinion ...

                Information for consideration:
                Russia abandoned plans for further arms supplies to Syria
                00: 02 11.05.2013
                Sergey Lavrov. Photo from the site er.ru
                Sergey Lavrov. Photo from the site er.ru
                Materials on the topic:

                EU lifts ban on arms supplies to Syria
                Russia has suspended supplies of the C-300 complex to Syria

                Russia does not intend to conclude new contracts for the supply of weapons with Syria. This, according to Interfax, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said at a press conference in Warsaw.

                However, the Minister noted that Russia will fulfill its obligations under existing contracts. According to him, they provide for the delivery of anti-aircraft systems to Syria, which is not prohibited by any international standards, since this type of weapon is defensive. With its help, Syria will be able to defend itself from probable air strikes.

                The day before, Israel accused Russia of selling Syria S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems. Allegedly, a deal was made in the amount of 900 million dollars and within the next three months, Syria should already receive the first batteries. Similar messages also appeared in the American press. However, Lavrov said that the Russian Federation does not plan to sell the C-300.

                The meeting between the Russian Foreign Minister and his German and Polish counterparts Guido Westerwelle and Radoslav Sikorski in Warsaw was held in an informal setting. It discussed Russian cooperation with the European Union and NATO, participation in the OSCE and the Council of Europe.

                http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2013/05/11/ministerstvo-inostrannykh-del-rf/710454-ros
                siya-otkazalas-ot-planov-dalneishikh-
            2. Grigorich 1962
              Grigorich 1962 28 August 2013 10: 46
              +4
              The Saudis are insolent in the end ... they tell us what to do and what not to do ..... I’m sure that the GDP will not buy the data from the American mongrel
              1. klimpopov
                klimpopov 28 August 2013 10: 49
                +7
                Yes, there are no handouts. It’s just plain clear to us what will happen if ... Read between the lines.
                1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                  SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 12: 27
                  +3
                  What if? Accounts will be frozen? Yes, for our "Jewesionists" in the government the question is ... and the oligarchs !!!
            3. evgenm55
              evgenm55 28 August 2013 10: 49
              +4
              If this is true, then we are on the path to surrendering Syria for the sake and for the benefit of those who have taken possession of all the riches and resources of our Motherland and bought thoughts and cabinets. There is nothing surprising - they do what they want with our country and our people, and Syria is generally for them ... th - the main thing is the bobla in more ....
              1. d_trader
                d_trader 28 August 2013 22: 42
                +3
                Quote: evgenm55
                If this is true, then we are on the path to surrendering Syria for the sake and for the benefit of those who have taken possession of all the riches and resources of our Motherland and bought thoughts and cabinets. There is nothing surprising - they do what they want with our country and our people, and Syria is generally for them ... th - the main thing is the bobla in more ....

                Jordanian journalist and political analyst Nader Makablekh, who has good relations with Russian officials, said that at a closed meeting, Russian President Vladimir Putin said without going into details: “I will not surrender Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, even if the fighting reaches the streets Moscow. " 02.05.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX
            4. Bezarius
              Bezarius 28 August 2013 11: 14
              +6
              Pff, we can implement the same thing without the help of the SA, it is enough to green their territory with Topol.
            5. Dober
              Dober 28 August 2013 11: 25
              19
              Quote: klimpopov
              Saudi Arabia guarantees Russia the safety of the Sochi Olympics.

              Wooo, it's like ...
              Well, that’s it. It is possible to abolish the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB of Russia as unnecessary.
              Sheikhs in "nighties" and with "towels" on their heads guarantee ... laughing
            6. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 12: 21
              10
              Survived! We are facing Arabia !!! The Jews are precisely in Russia play out !!! All the troubles of the world come from them !!!
            7. DEfindER
              DEfindER 28 August 2013 14: 28
              +4
              Quote: klimpopov
              in order to maintain oil prices higher than the sensitivity for the Russian budget of about $ 100 per barrel.

              It’s better to let the price of oil fall, so we’ll even begin to supply it to our industry, and to carry out our own industrialization, and not of Western countries!
              Quote: klimpopov
              Saudi Arabia will not contribute to the construction of alternative gas pipelines to Europe, understanding the interests of the Russian side.

              There are no comments at all, but the Saudis promise to understand our interests ...
              Quote: klimpopov
              If Putin agrees to refuse to support Assad, Saudi Arabia guarantees Russia the safety of the Sochi Olympics.

              Well, really, who else should ensure security, if not the most terrorist state ..
          2. elmi
            elmi 28 August 2013 14: 22
            +2
            Quote: RETX
            Our "experts" do not lag behind either: Test nuclear weapons on Novaya Zemlya and send troops to the Baltic States

            Just yesterday I read one of the bloggers also offers to send troops to the Baltic countries in return.
            In the case of an attack on Syria should send troops to the Baltic

            http://warfiles.ru/show-37377-v-sluchae-napadeniya-na-siriyu-nado-vvesti-voyska-
            v-pribaltiku.html
          3. Vlad 1965
            Vlad 1965 28 August 2013 16: 39
            +2
            Two options that already in the past were in the language of entering into the Saudis and Qatar, across all their oil fields and terminals, as well as desalination plants, the second, what you wrote, to cover the sprotkontkor. And in both cases, howling with There will be a lot of West, howl of howl is not much.
          4. Taidrem
            Taidrem 28 August 2013 23: 01
            +1
            I also roam around on foreign sites, something incomprehensible is happening, some say that it is necessary that the war others that do not!

            http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/28/world/meast/syria-civil-war/index.html?hpt=hp_
            t1
        2. Uhe
          Uhe 28 August 2013 14: 47
          +4
          Saddam was not leaked by Iraqis.

          In the first war, it was merged by our state. Under the guarantees of the then "our" president, the Iraqis left fortified positions on which the USA could resist for a long time, and on the march the aggressors struck at them. This was our betrayal, or rather, our then regime.

          The second betrayal in the second war: the local regime betrayed the USA "friend or foe" codes from Iraqi weapons. It is clear that the destruction of air defense, aircraft and other things has become a matter of technology. But how can the same old T-72s fight the troops of the aggressor, if they can be seen a mile away because of the same active target designators? And we didn’t supply them with modern weapons, we actually shot them in the back. Or fight missiles with machine guns?

          Well, Saddam was counting on military assistance that they did not render him, despite the contracts and assurances. Something similar is happening now with Syria and Iran, although to a lesser extent.

          Arabs are generally not particularly good fighters, as Soviet military advisers spoke of before the Six Day War. They are afraid of technology. Apparently, the Syrians and Persians are glued from another dough.

          But the USA has a ready-made network-centric warfare system that allows you to destroy the enemy for many hundreds of kilometers (by the way, their satellites are brought to near-Earth space on our engines - business, nothing personal;)). The troops are left to clean up and perform police functions. What can they oppose to an army armed by the standards of World War II? Never mind. To perish either with honor, or to join the partisans.

          Well, in Iraq there are many Islamists, Kurds, and others who did not like Saddam, because he kept everyone in check, and there it is only possible. He did not clean all of them, like Stalin, not all. And here's another betrayal of "Russia" ... No, the Iraqis did not surrender it, or rather, they were the last.
        3. Docklishin
          Docklishin 28 August 2013 23: 39
          +1
          Everything is correct. How do you have such an option for reasoning, a strike on Syria will be unambiguous. Because if this does not happen, the west will find itself in a somewhat "humiliated position". Now, our tasks are at the diplomatic level to make sure that the West remains its own and that Syria does not lose its legitimacy as an integral state. Those. get off with a little blood, no matter how cynical it may sound. In case of failure, fully help the Syrian army, inflicting damage on the United States as much as possible. But, without our direct participation. I agree with the author 100%. Article +. Ps And yet, where is the position of Iran ??????? Strait of Hormuz .....
        4. obraztsov
          obraztsov 29 August 2013 05: 31
          +3
          Quote: avt
          Do not twitch, there is hard work at the diplomat level and judging by excerpts from the statements of the same Barak Huseynovich - with varying degrees of success.

          And what is our way out?
          Swallow another spit in our direction, keep silent? After all, sooner or later they will undertake for us. We are for the west like a bone in the throat.


          Diplomacy will not solve this issue. Without a war, we have a chance to get by only if we lie down to the west, our feet will be wiped out, and the extinction and degradation of the population will be accelerated. Those. if we give the opportunity to destroy us without military intervention.

          Isn't it better to start active resistance now, while there are other forces that are resisting the United States? Let them not attack the United States, but openly threaten to attack the allies of the United States in the Middle East if they attack Syria. I think that it is necessary to put a specific ultimatum and be sure to fulfill it, if necessary.

          Hatred of us from the West will not go anywhere, will we act or not. No need to postpone active actions until the last. A little more and it will be too late. Maybe it's too late, but the sooner we start, the more painful we can make our enemies. Remember how Stalin, until the start of World War II, until the last postponed the advance of troops to the border. Has it led to anything good? Thanks to a few German miscalculations, with God's help, we managed to stop their advance on the approaches to Moscow.

          I, like most, do not want war, the unknown is terrible. But is it really not clear that anyway they will undertake and we will not have time to prepare? We will not be given any time or resources for this.
        5. gav6757
          gav6757 1 September 2013 00: 18
          0
          I agree with what was said! But we need to urgently and everywhere prepare for the "probably imposed crap"! This means increasing the budget of the defencists, revising the financial policy of the state and, possibly, increasing the influence of the public sector in the economy. And, ideally, a dictatorship, with tough restoring order!
          1. Sergey47
            Sergey47 1 September 2013 20: 08
            +2
            And best of all, a military junta. Our Medvedevs, Nabiulins and others like them will not stop on their own, they need to be eliminated as soon as possible. The death penalty for embezzlement on a large scale. The oboronka should work only for domestic consumption. Get out of contracts and conventions that are not beneficial for us. And start building a buffer zone i.e. occupy the Baltic states and Ukraine. Resistance of the local population, I think, will not be serious. It is necessary to show that we are ready for any development of events. Only for this we need a strong dictator who will restore order in the country and very quickly and firmly. No illusions, war will come to us anyway.
      2. Zen
        Zen 28 August 2013 09: 23
        +9
        Washington will be destroyed !!!
        God see everything!!!
      3. Airman
        Airman 28 August 2013 09: 32
        +2
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        What will be our actions, already tired of simple chatter, statements. We are waiting for real action!

        And what do you specifically suggest? What would you do?
        1. Far East
          Far East 28 August 2013 12: 19
          +1
          Quote: Povshnik
          And what do you specifically suggest? What would you do?

          At least from the UN rostrum to say sho americosos Liars! I will not give examples, you yourself know! and then in the media they say sho chem., weapons in Iraq and so on was and wasn’t. weakly ours to say openly to all AMONG Americans, why are you all pees ...... ly! or ours weak? hi
          1. Redpartyzan
            Redpartyzan 28 August 2013 12: 59
            +7
            Look at Churkin’s speeches, in principle he regularly expresses such thoughts, so it’s not weak. Only a little sense ...
            1. Far East
              Far East 28 August 2013 13: 28
              +1
              Quote: Redpartyzan
              Look at Churkin’s speeches, in principle he regularly expresses such thoughts, so it’s not weak. Only a little sense ...

              respected! no need to go far! in a skirmish with an enemy, we are expressed sharply, with intonation! and he doesn’t like it soooooooo! then comes melee! and Churkin does everything loyally. with them it’s impossible everyone respects only POWER! hi Well, here the verbiage Hints of deception! it is necessary to express all this sharply as it was during the USSR! examples i think you know! this is CLASSIC! to the boots!
      4. OTTO
        OTTO 28 August 2013 09: 49
        +4
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        .Waiting for real action!

        I remember the Korean War and a million Chinese "volunteers" ... These are certainly my unsubstantiated dreams ... unfortunately.
        1. Val_y
          Val_y 28 August 2013 12: 00
          +2
          Well, maybe not Chinese, and not volunteers, but NURSs, UROs, broadband all-round jammers and jammers, there are a lot of things that can help, because there are GRU GSH, OSSN, SPECIALIZ (I think the BDK brought them there).
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 28 August 2013 13: 05
            13 th
            Quote: Val_Y
            there are a lot of things that can help, so there is escho, GRU GSH, VASNAZ, SPECIALIZATION (I think BDK brought them there).

            Late Batenka, late ... Assad dumped from the country ... hi
            Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his family arrived in Iran. This is written by the Lebanese newspaper El Nahar.
            According to the publication, citing Iranian diplomatic sources, Assad’s plane landed the night before at the Imam Khomeini International Airport in Tehran.
            As noted, from the airport, Bashar al-Assad went to meet with the Iranian leadership to discuss a possible US attack on Syria.
            Note that the El Nahar newspaper is known for its proximity to the Lebanese Hezbollah group.
            1. tilovaykrisa
              tilovaykrisa 28 August 2013 14: 39
              +9
              Most likely he came to protect his relatives and discuss directly with Iran what to do, so he would crack and fly back to defend his homeland, if he would have run away 2 years ago.
            2. apostrophe
              apostrophe 28 August 2013 14: 57
              -1
              Hezbollah to remind for whom is fighting? Accordingly, its propaganda should not be thoughtlessly swallowed.
              1. alone
                alone 28 August 2013 16: 34
                +4
                Hezbollah is fighting for Assad. This is one of Assad's military allies.
            3. Vlad 1965
              Vlad 1965 28 August 2013 16: 42
              0
              smersh70 (1) WHY DO YOU BREAK?
              Politics, Assad’s visit to Iran, your speculations are different things.
      5. Rink
        Rink 28 August 2013 10: 24
        15
        ... I get the impression that we are the only ones who resist the chaos, the new world war.

        This is because all this controlled chaos is preparation for a war against us.

        The world domination of the Anglo-Saxons is hindered by a naughty and strong Russia, they sleep and see how to destroy it. But the direct conflict with Russia, even the current scumbags from their leadership will not be resolved - retaliatory destruction is guaranteed. But when crowds of Muslim "rebels" of the Syrian type appear in Russia, there will be no one to deliver a nuclear retaliation - an "internal conflict", an enemy within. England and the United States have nothing to do with it, shouldn't Russia shoot ICBMs at its own territory?

        Meanwhile, such a war can seriously undermine the defense capability of Russia, weaken the air defense and aviation (when guerrilla operations will be conducted around the airfields), even the combat readiness of the Strategic Missile Forces will decrease. Here, a convenient moment will come for democratization and elimination of the "bloody regime".

        Plans are far, far reaching.
        Syria is our forefront.
        The last line of defense.
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 12: 33
          +3
          Is it true that in the GRU and the FSB some traitors are sitting !!! It would have been a long time ago if they had drunk the Jewish leadership, but the drunk would not understand !!!
      6. AVV
        AVV 28 August 2013 10: 56
        10
        The author correctly wrote that urgently it is necessary to withdraw assets from the USA and start up the development of our country, thereby we are raising our economy and lowering the banking system of the USA, the same must be done for China !!! And in Syria it was necessary to put a large number false targets and emitters that will lead the expensive Tomahawks to nowhere, and as a result, strikes of the Kyrgyz Republic will not be effective !!!
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 12: 36
          10
          With the beginning of the withdrawal from the government and the Duma "Jewessionists" then another conversation will be AT ALL !!!
      7. Pimply
        Pimply 28 August 2013 12: 33
        +2
        None. Upstairs, they understand that a full-scale war without allies and even at the other end of the world will not be pulled. Therefore, they are limited to supplies.
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 28 August 2013 13: 22
          +3
          Pimpled. Syria is not far away and Russia, if desired, could provide effective assistance in the destruction of cruise missiles, and indeed their carriers. This NATO shelupon must be stopped at all costs. Jackals only scare power.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 28 August 2013 13: 49
            +1
            Quote: Sandov
            Pimpled. Syria is not far away and Russia, if desired, could provide effective assistance in the destruction of cruise missiles, and indeed their carriers. This NATO shelupon must be stopped at all costs. Jackals only scare power.

            Not scary. And in this case, guys from Hezbollah and Iran are fighting on the side of Assad. Their differences from the guys from al-Qaeda are minimal. So who to stop.
            The picture may be close, in fact - far. And problematic.
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 28 August 2013 18: 47
              +2
              Quote: Pimply
              guys from Hezbollah and Iran are fighting on the side of Assad.

              Our sou ... children!
            2. Sandov
              Sandov 29 August 2013 12: 17
              +2
              Pimpled.
              So between amers and Alkaida there are also no differences. Those and those terrorists.
              By the way I read for your scientist's days, it seems the Pole from Telaviv. Jews came out of Khazaria, and I assumed that from the Sumerians.
            3. Che
              Che 31 August 2013 11: 58
              0
              You know, we are all very lucky that we live in Russia and belong to the Russian culture, the Russian worldview based on a sense of justice ... For I get the impression that we seem to be the only ones who resist chaos, a new world war. Despite the collapse, the dominance of traitors and thieves in all levels of power, the country is trying to stop this gloom that goes to the whole world. Get it — or time will tell. But I believe that will work out. It will be a long road, hard, but it is necessary to pass it.

              Here it is a homespun truth.
          2. Cynic
            Cynic 28 August 2013 18: 49
            +3
            To bring weapons to Tartus (while it will be possible) ...

            And, most importantly, when the type is impossible!
      8. Good Ukraine
        Good Ukraine 28 August 2013 18: 53
        +8
        hi
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        What will be our actions, already tired of simple chatter

        What should the Russian Federation do?
        I think that there is no need to make special gestures with shouts "We will send our ships and join the carnage." We need to do it now, before they get bombed.
        1. To warn everyone that if the scarecrows do not stop, then the Russian Federation will fulfill and overfulfill the contract for the supply of C 300 complexes to Iran, as well as urgently supply the Bastion complexes to the same Iran for the protection of the Strait of Hormuz.
        2. If "the pants of the fascists are not bursting," then remember that Qatar carried out military actions against the Russian Federation a year ago in the form of beating the state consul of the Russian Federation and thereby declared war. After that, apply cruise missiles with conventional warheads (literally several pieces) from the distance, as the United States does at port gas pumping terminals. If this is done at the time of strikes against Syria, it will be the cheapest and most effective measure to counter world fascism.
        1. drewlanin
          drewlanin 28 August 2013 22: 49
          +1
          yes they spit in our direction then boorish here and they need to answer not by husky but seriously by giving in the face so that sparks flew in all directions.
      9. bilgesez
        bilgesez 28 August 2013 23: 14
        +1
        What will be our actions. Putin will wipe the snot and will continue to hang noodles on our ears. 13 years apart from chatter, not a damn thing.
    2. Garyk701
      Garyk701 28 August 2013 07: 15
      64
      "Moscow" will not help here. In a missile attack on Syria, Assad should focus on specific large targets in Turkey and Israel (nuclear desalination plants, industrial centers, water storage, power plants, oil and gas pumping stations and storage facilities). Whenever possible, striking American troops at nearby bases should demoralize American soldiers.
      The Americans will certainly cause damage, but it is necessary to snap back so that we remember for a long time and thought 10 the next time.
      The Russians should help coordinate the actions of the Syrian Air Force and Air Defense and transmit the exact coordinates.
      By the start of the Syrian missile attack, the Syrian Air Force planes should already be in the air.
      A combat calculations of air defense in the field. False goals set ...
      1. Crocodile
        Crocodile 28 August 2013 07: 24
        68
        The Russian government should at least DO NOT RECOMMEND its citizens rest in Turkey, and urgently bring this requirement to tour operators. Maybe Turkey will change its mind?
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 28 August 2013 08: 36
          19
          Do you seriously think that our people (mainly girls) who travel in Turkey / Ebiptam will change their minds? Some are still rejoicing, in Egypt such a situation - but vouchers are cheap!
          1. Crocodile
            Crocodile 28 August 2013 09: 22
            17
            I myself really like to relax in Turkey! bully But this year I will not go! PRINCIPLE! Although I understand that it’s not hotel owners who climb into Syria, but they will quickly figure out how to turn to their government!
            1. Manager
              Manager 28 August 2013 10: 36
              -2
              Quote: Crocodile
              but they will quickly figure out how to turn to their government!

              Nice people, Turkey does not live off tourism, God forbid, 10% of GDP. So, without Russian tourists, Turkey is clearly not going to go broke.
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 12: 41
                +8
                Do not go broke, yes, but still let's see! Different sanctions are applied to us !!!
                1. elmi
                  elmi 28 August 2013 14: 42
                  +3
                  Quote: Garyk701
                  If possible, to strike at the manpower of Americans at nearby bases, this should demoralize American soldiers.

                  If B. Assad declares to the whole world that in case of aggression against their country he will be forced to use chemical weapons against the aggressors, then perhaps the NATO troops will not dare to attack, they are used to fighting without their own losses, but it will not work out.
                  Quote: Garyk701
                  The Americans will certainly cause damage, but it is necessary to snap back so that we remember for a long time and thought 10 the next time.

                  Here chemical weapons will help amers remember what great losses are and perhaps for a long time discourage the desire to "democratize" countries they do not like.
                  1. novobranets
                    novobranets 28 August 2013 15: 20
                    +5
                    Not even an application, one threat of an application, will set up the vacillating countries against Assad. And the United States will provoke not full-scale strikes, but full-scale bombing, with heavy tonnage. Danger of leakage of BWA, they will not be stopped, thermobaric ammunition will burn gas. And the United States will have a cool mess, they say, they defended the world from crazy terrorists. And the fact that there will be a desert ... but when it stopped them. Now not only actions, but every word should be deliberate, too explosive situation.
                    1. mazdie
                      mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 24
                      0
                      So do not threaten, in case of aggression it is necessary to apply.
                  2. alone
                    alone 28 August 2013 16: 49
                    +5
                    Quote: elmi
                    If B. Assad declares to the whole world that in case of aggression against their country he will be forced to use chemical weapons against the aggressors, then perhaps the NATO troops will not dare to attack, they are used to fighting without their own losses, but it will not work out.


                    make such a statement, in a week Syria will be like a little sugar. Then even Russia will have nothing to object to
                    1. elmi
                      elmi 28 August 2013 20: 21
                      +7
                      Quote: novobranets
                      Not even an application, one threat of an application, will set up the vacillating countries against Assad. And the United States will provoke not full-scale strikes, but full-scale bombing, with heavy tonnage. Danger of leakage of BWA, they will not be stopped, thermobaric ammunition will burn gas. And the United States will have a cool mess, they say, they defended the world from crazy terrorists. And the fact that there will be a desert ... but when it stopped them. Now not only actions, but every word should be deliberate, too explosive situation.

                      Quote: lonely
                      make such a statement, in a week Syria will be like a little sugar. Then even Russia will have nothing to object to

                      Maybe you are right. If chemical weapons do not guarantee the safety of the state, then the desire of some countries to acquire nuclear weapons is understandable. If North Korea had not nuclear weapons, but chemical weapons would have long ago “democratized” NATO Even a relative alliance with Russia does not guarantee security - the example of Syria, hence the consequence of why many countries choose as friends The United States and not Rossiyu.Nado defend Syria, proving that Russia does not throw countries friendly to her, otherwise the country's prestige will generally be zero.
                      1. novobranets
                        novobranets 28 August 2013 20: 39
                        +1
                        That's right, but how? Without an agreement with Syria on mutual military assistance, even the presence of our squadron in the Mediterranean will cause hysteria and howl, now just unnecessary. hi
                    2. Cynic
                      Cynic 29 August 2013 18: 52
                      0
                      Quote: lonely
                      make such a statement, in a week Syria will be like a little sugar

                      Why
                      As far as I remember, it has long been said.
                      True interpretation is a little different _ Chemical weapons can be applied Syria only in case of foreign aggression !
              2. mazdie
                mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 23
                0
                I agree, but by relaxing in Turkey you indirectly support the policy of its leadership.
          2. Fish_Ob_Ice
            Fish_Ob_Ice 28 August 2013 09: 52
            +8
            Um ... what are these vouchers? No sane travel agency sells tours to Egypt. http://travel.rbc.ru/news_article/35552
            Do not believe me - call anyone yourself! We have already contacted Natalie Tours, they clearly told us: at the moment we are not taking it to Egypt.
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 12: 43
              +2
              Talk about Turkey ,,,
              1. elmi
                elmi 28 August 2013 14: 58
                +8
                Quote: Crocodile
                The Russian government should at least DO NOT RECOMMEND its citizens rest in Turkey, and urgently bring this requirement to tour operators. Maybe Turkey will change its mind?

                If our government had followed such decisions, it would have put the Baltic countries in their place with economic sanctions long ago, but this is not the case ... It remains to quietly protest with my ruble, for example, for a long time I have not bought dollars, Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian goods. shit on us "and we buy their goods thereby developing their economy. Obviously, in those countries that are hostile to us, they do not know our proverb: Do not spit into the well from which you drink."
          3. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 12: 39
            0
            Vigil .. let them leave, in RUSSIA the air will be cleaner ...!
          4. alone
            alone 28 August 2013 16: 46
            0
            extreme tourists on the drum)))
          5. mazdie
            mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 21
            0
            To prohibit, under pain of a criminal offense to tour operators, to sell vouchers, to close air traffic.
        2. DMB 1995
          DMB 1995 28 August 2013 08: 38
          44
          If necessary, the restless Onishchenko will reveal that the Turkish climate is simply categorically contraindicated to Russians)))
          1. Alexxeg73
            Alexxeg73 28 August 2013 10: 04
            12
            In fact, Onishchenko hinted at the possibility of closing the Turkish destination after our tourists there harassed hundreds. But something ...
        3. OTTO
          OTTO 28 August 2013 09: 43
          +3
          Quote: Crocodile
          The Russian government should at least DO NOT RECOMMEND its citizens rest in Turkey,

          Of course it would not be bad ... but it will be a demonstration rather than a blow to the economy, there are enough tourists without us.
        4. smart ass
          smart ass 28 August 2013 09: 52
          +5
          Do you want to work in the tourist industry in Russia ??? Six months you do not sell permits to Turkey! Do not be nice ??? Vali from the market
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 12: 51
            +1
            This is the only way! There should be an internal policy! And it will not be necessary for RUSSIA as long as there are “Jewish Zionists!” In the government, like Chubais Greft Mendel Dvarkovich ...
        5. Grigorich 1962
          Grigorich 1962 28 August 2013 10: 51
          +6
          this, of course, is not enough, but also a real measure .... but also we must abandon the Turkish rag imports
          The GDP twice in recent years has been a guest of Erdogan ....... but he is still unhappy ....
          1. Sandov
            Sandov 28 August 2013 13: 30
            +3
            Grigorich, and not calm down. Dreams of the Ottoman Empire. Even Azerbaijan and Central Asia want to rake in for themselves.
        6. Sandov
          Sandov 28 August 2013 13: 25
          +2
          To hammer on this turretchina to go to have a rest. Notify all travel companies, do not listen, raze to hell.
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 28 August 2013 14: 45
            +2
            It would be nice to throw some other infection there, such as ringworm only to be more infectious, then in a week there will not be a single tourist laughing
            1. novobranets
              novobranets 28 August 2013 15: 31
              +2
              This is the use of biological weapons, but I like the idea of ​​scabbing them. bully
      2. Trailer
        Trailer 28 August 2013 08: 03
        18
        Quote: Garyk701
        In a missile attack on Syria, Assad should focus on specific large targets in Turkey and Israel (nuclear desalination plants, industrial centers, water storage facilities, power plants, oil and gas pumping stations and storage facilities).


        But I liked this idea. An attack on military installations is okay. But the attack of civilians in response to clearly unlawful aggression is an explosion of public discontent in aggressor countries. But to whom will the missiles from Syria reach? Israel, Turkey, Jordan. The main pranksters are not available to them.
        1. varov14
          varov14 28 August 2013 08: 53
          +8
          Nikita Sergeevich Khrushchev's boot would have come in handy, and of course "Kuz'kina's mother" would at least be used as a mat.
          1. Dober
            Dober 28 August 2013 11: 45
            +4
            Quote: varov14
            the boot of Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev would be useful

            Already irrelevant.
            Now the trend is "Zaidi Boots", which Bush cleverly dodged, but then he was still * wounded by some well-aimed bird on the air.
            Later, a monument to that "projectile" was even unveiled. The giant boot was installed in the city of Tikrit, the homeland of Saddam. The men's wardrobe item is located on a white pedestal, on which a poem glorifying Zaidi's deed is applied. The sculpture is about three meters high.

            newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45427000/jpg/_45427817_shoe203b.jpg

            "We need to help the GDR. What? The GDR isn't there now? Why? I'll figure it out ..."
            “I know what I believe in. And I know that I believe that it’s right. I continue to defend what I believe in and why I believe. And I believe that I know that I believe in that. what I believe, since I believe that I believe in the right things. "
            "I have the honor to shake the brave Iraqi citizen by the hand that Saddam cut off to him."
            /J Bush Jr. President of the U.S.A/
          2. alone
            alone 28 August 2013 16: 52
            +1
            do not! still disentangle the tricks of this adventurer. At the beginning of the collapse of the USSR as a country, he began, and ended with a labeled bear
            1. mazdie
              mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 30
              +2
              It was not so much a bear that collapsed, but a population that changed freedom and independence, into jeans and chewing gums. Hello to Navalny and company. This one, in my opinion, will be better marked. And there are still many lovers of chewing gum and jeans, and even for free.
        2. Garyk701
          Garyk701 28 August 2013 09: 52
          +8
          In wartime, these civilian facilities become strategically important.
          If aggression is conducted against the Syrian people, then any means are good at protecting their homeland. It is necessary to destroy strategic objects systematically and competently so that the damage is many times greater than the downed Syrian planes and missiles.
          And the destroyed objects paralyzed entire regions and sectors of the economy.
          By the way, from Damascus to Tel Aviv some 210 + - km
          The largest desalination plant in Hadera is even closer.
          Ataturk Dam is dangerously close to the border with Syria.
        3. Natalia
          Natalia 28 August 2013 10: 36
          +8
          Quote: Karavan
          But to whom will the missiles from Syria reach? Israel, Turkey, Jordan. The main pranksters are not available to them.

          Russia could help it get something, send a fleet to Syria (say, BDK), unload something there and present it as, well, let's say: "Forcing EVERYONE to peace, because you cannot bomb Syria without UN sanction, the results of experts on the use chemical weapons will be ready only by early October, and you, my dears, are going to bomb Assad now "
        4. Val_y
          Val_y 28 August 2013 12: 36
          0
          Come on Italy, Greece, CA, Qatar, Yemen, Bahrain. And in Italy, Greece, hammering a couple of bridges and factories (do not hammer the resort towns), they will rise such a howl that the governments immediately rotten.
          1. alone
            alone 28 August 2013 16: 55
            +2
            what high-precision weapons does Syria possess for striking at the nearest countries, except that the army is a point of 120 km. skad and moon m low precision weapons. fall in civilian quarters, there will be a full PPC. razed to the ground
        5. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 12: 53
          0
          For this "Moscow" in Venezuela ...
      3. nemec55
        nemec55 28 August 2013 08: 04
        +1
        Here’s how I imagine Medvedev’s physiognomy so that they’re thinking about it, but Putin is unlikely to do anything serious without the support of his environment. Well, with such a sidekick as Medvedev request
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 28 August 2013 08: 23
          26
          Putin, first let Serdyukov and Skrynnik be sent to prison, then it will be possible to expect something good from him
          1. evgenm55
            evgenm55 28 August 2013 11: 00
            +4
            Well, you give !!! Tales are a good thing, like fiction, but not to the same extent ... Then he needs to take the dimon to the cell and settle in the neighboring one himself.
            1. mazdie
              mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 33
              0
              If you understand, you can plant 95 percent of our population. And 30 percent is needed.
          2. alone
            alone 28 August 2013 16: 56
            +1
            you can’t plant them. they grabbed it all and honestly shared it. Do you think they will let one person steal so much and keep everything for themselves?
        2. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 13: 00
          -3
          Mendel him, I think is not a sidekick, but BP.I.O., and what kind of relationship do they have, their environment and loved ones know !!
      4. Odysseus
        Odysseus 28 August 2013 08: 13
        +7
        Quote: Garyk701
        If possible, to strike at the manpower of Americans at nearby bases, this should demoralize American soldiers.
        The Americans will certainly cause damage, but it is necessary to snap back so that we remember for a long time and thought 10 times the next time. By the beginning of the Syrian missile attack, the Syrian Air Force planes should already be in the air.
        A combat calculations of air defense in the field. False goals set ...

        The plan is excellent. That's just technically, given that in the country for 2 years there has been a civil war, it is unrealistic.
        1. Andrey312
          Andrey312 28 August 2013 09: 53
          +3
          Well, I think technically everything is in order. The army there is quite combat-ready. The only question is what they have in service. Does anyone have a link thread which weapons the Russian Federation supplied to Syria in recent years?
          1. Garyk701
            Garyk701 28 August 2013 10: 18
            +7
            The Americans would also like to have such a list of supplies.
          2. Odysseus
            Odysseus 28 August 2013 19: 03
            +3
            Quote: Andrey312
            Well, I think technically everything is in order. The army there is quite combat-ready

            Well, what are you. From the Air Force, something can only 14 MiG-29SMT. In air defense, only Buki and a little Armor. And from shock weapons only Scuda and a few Points.
            But the most important thing is that in a civil war, when the government does not control a significant part of the territory, it is simply impossible to carry out any kind of air defense.
            The only chance is to hit with dots and scads with warheads with chemical weapons. Well, you can also send the remaining Su-24 with "chemistry" on the last flight.
            But the response will be such that Syria will simply cease to exist.
            In fact, I think that there will be an attempt to counterattack with the remaining Scuds and Points, but without chemical weapons. This is if they still remained with the government troops.
            1. alone
              alone 28 August 2013 23: 05
              +1
              Yes, and the scud also does not differ in accuracy to inflict any significant damage. As you remember, Gaddafi applied the scad against Benghazi. The rocket deviated by 80 km and fell in the desert. But you can do something with points, but with an abundance of intelligence resources from the west. make one shot.
      5. alexng
        alexng 28 August 2013 08: 29
        29
        And most importantly, sink a couple of American gamnovozov. It will be more sobering and detrimental to the aggressor.
        1. nemec55
          nemec55 28 August 2013 08: 43
          14
          Someone soldered minus wink probably with a shit truck laughing
        2. samurai 72
          samurai 72 28 August 2013 09: 00
          0
          And start with Truman!))
        3. mazdie
          mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 35
          0
          AS? THAN? The Yankees, too, are not fools, and they will not climb into the reach zone for any reason.
      6. Alexxeg73
        Alexxeg73 28 August 2013 09: 57
        18
        "Moskva" could run off the coast of Syria and shoot down cruise missiles as they approach the territory. The cruiser just for this has the S-300 with 64 missiles. Not so much - but at least something. Moreover, it is possible to have a supporting ship nearby. Shooting down missiles is not an airplane. Nobody would have presented anything.
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 28 August 2013 13: 35
          +4
          Quote: Alexxeg73
          "Moskva" could run off the coast of Syria and shoot down cruise missiles as they approach the territory. The cruiser just for this has the S-300 with 64 missiles. Not so much - but at least something. Moreover, it is possible to have a supporting ship nearby. Shooting down missiles is not an airplane. Nobody would have presented anything.


          And the carriers also shoot down as an aggressor.
          1. alone
            alone 28 August 2013 16: 58
            +2
            We need a state-level document that Russia is the guarantor of Syria’s security. There is no such document. If it were, believe me, the fleet would have stood there for a long time
        2. novobranets
          novobranets 28 August 2013 15: 36
          0
          Sober thought.
      7. Rink
        Rink 28 August 2013 10: 41
        13
        ... but it is necessary to snap back so that we remember for a long time and thought 10 times the next time.

        It’s necessary to drown an aircraft carrier and a couple of destroyers with a floating mine. Very necessary!..
        Do we have a lot of things? "Shkval" has not yet been tested in real conditions. They have not answered for the Kursk yet, but it would be high time. It's time!
        Must-ook!
        1. Val_y
          Val_y 28 August 2013 12: 56
          +2
          To fill up the entire middleland not only with floating, but also with bottom, reactive-floating mines (amers did not land from the sea during a "storm in a glass" in Iraq, but there were BMD or SCM, as well as AMD and MDT mixed in, so protrall the area they never could, so here it is.
          1. alone
            alone 28 August 2013 17: 00
            +2
            why should the Amers land in Syria? in Syria there are a lot of bearded riffraff who will do all the hard work. The landowners can land only when no one bothers them.
            1. nerd.su
              nerd.su 28 August 2013 21: 07
              +2
              Quote: lonely
              Syria is full of bearded riffraffers who will do all the hard work. Land guards can land only when no one bothers them.

              Libyan experience suggests that a bearded shushera fiddles with well-guarded objects for a long time. So the special forces come into play. But then again, according to Libyan experience, there are English and French boys ready to demonstrate their steepness.
              1. alone
                alone 28 August 2013 21: 13
                +2
                after strikes, well-guarded objects do not exist, unfortunately.
        2. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 13: 06
          +3
          Yes, they must answer for the Kursk in full, and if their guanovar drowns, it will be a small fraction ... !!!
      8. Grigorich 1962
        Grigorich 1962 28 August 2013 10: 49
        +7
        I hope that it will be like that
        you just have to always remember ... what even earlier ruined Hussein and Gaddafi .... this is a betrayal inside .... corrupt generals were bribed by the Americans .....
        1. Val_y
          Val_y 28 August 2013 12: 58
          +1
          And how to avoid this, the overwhelming majority, the ideological are now called "fanatics", and there are few of them
      9. raptor1975
        raptor1975 28 August 2013 10: 58
        +4
        The Syrian Air Force will not be able to do anything in this situation, and almost all planes will be shot down or destroyed on the ground, as it was in Yugoslavia and Iraq, air defense will be destroyed by cruise missiles, after which NATO bombing will continue to be carried out without breaking up and the Syrian land forces will not turn chaos, and then the rebels will do what the rebels in Libya did.
        1. No_more
          No_more 28 August 2013 11: 52
          0
          Great analysis. One could simply say that the US military will take and be the first to kill the Syrian military, because they attack, not the Syrians, and thus win the war.
          This is also logical.
        2. alone
          alone 28 August 2013 17: 01
          0
          + from me. think soberly.
        3. mazdie
          mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 38
          0
          I agree 100%, we must hide the equipment in holes, wait until they run out of rockets, something else, but they will survive until an air attack.
      10. Bezarius
        Bezarius 28 August 2013 11: 16
        -8
        It is enough for us to show that we are really ready to fight. Most NATO troops will simply refuse to serve, and even more so few will dare to enter the battlefield against us.
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 28 August 2013 20: 13
          +3
          Quote: Bezarius
          It is enough for us to show that we are really ready to fight. Most NATO troops will simply give up service

          Brilliant! They will sprinkle their heads with ashes and sobbing will go home.
          1. alone
            alone 28 August 2013 21: 14
            +3
            at the same time and throw weapons)))
          2. Bezarius
            Bezarius 30 August 2013 11: 20
            0
            During the September 11 terrorist attack, the German military was in a panic, some even left the army, just because of the ghostly threat of war. The West has long ceased to be fighters, few of them will risk their lives. I'm not talking about the war with us, given the image of a soldier that they created for themselves. As they say, fear has large eyes. In general, the number of minuses suggests that you do not underestimate the Western model, which is aimed at creators of consumers who have "rights".
            1. novobranets
              novobranets 31 August 2013 08: 33
              0
              I didn’t put you cons, because I think everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that. Minus only boors and frank provocateurs. But I can’t agree with you, the last example is Afghanistan, Iraq, where NATO troops do not quit and refuse to serve, not even because of the threat of war (they are already in the war), but out of a sense of patriotism, justice needs admit they have it. Maybe someone will refuse, but they will be one, and certainly not the majority. hi
      11. 31231
        31231 28 August 2013 11: 19
        0
        Why would Assad be like his "friends" and strike at civilian targets ?! What is the fault of the people in Turkey and Israel? There are a lot of our citizens there. But the military bases of the interventionists to gouge this sacred.
        1. Garyk701
          Garyk701 28 August 2013 11: 28
          +5
          And the people of Syria are to blame? There are also many of ours there ... The West is just fighting against the people, and Assad needs to be targeted, but it’s painful to sting at strategic facilities (there’s a minimum of personnel, but the losses will be noticeable to the economy).
          1. 31231
            31231 28 August 2013 11: 46
            +2
            I repeat once again: DO NOT BE SIMPLIFIED BY POSSIBLE AGGRESSORS OF SYRIA! They are at war with the army, not with the civilian population. Did Americans bomb civilians in Korea and Germany find much glory?
            1. Garyk701
              Garyk701 28 August 2013 12: 03
              +8
              But you better ask the Japanese, Koreans, Germans, Serbs whom they respect more. I think that they even justify the American bombing of cities.
              To fight the Syrian armies against the combined armies of the USA, EU, Israel, Turkey is pointless and not justified from a military point of view. Only a people's war against any aggressor state.
              When the damage of aggressors exceeds the benefit of the goals of aggression, war becomes an unprofitable project for the capitalists.
            2. Sandov
              Sandov 28 August 2013 13: 39
              +4
              31231
              Amer glory and is not needed. These maniacs need resources and loot.
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      13. alone
        alone 28 August 2013 16: 46
        +3
        Igor! what kind of Syrian aircraft? what will Migi 21,23 make modifications against f-15,16? and those Mig-29s can simply overtake into Iran. With a powerful EW, air defense will be like a dummy and look at the sky. I understand that America and the West are vile .but unfortunately, Syria has no chance against this pack.
        1. mazdie
          mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 42
          -1
          what if Iran already has a bomb? The only reliable way to slow down the jackals is Iran’s nuclear test.
          1. alone
            alone 28 August 2013 22: 13
            +2
            yeah, after that, another little sugar will appear.
            1. mazdie
              mazdie 30 August 2013 00: 42
              0
              I even know where to make it)
        2. raptor1975
          raptor1975 28 August 2013 22: 04
          +1
          I would like to say on my own behalf: that after all this is a very interesting site and here mostly serious people write comments, and as for the Syrian aviation: even if it has the best Russian fighters, it will lose them anyway - they’re fighting not only fighters, amers have an AWACS sister (and other radars), which detects enemy aircraft much earlier than the fighter itself: unfortunately, Syria does not have such systems (Russia has), so the odds of Syrian aviation confronting NATO aviation are equal to zero.
    3. waisson
      waisson 28 August 2013 08: 42
      +1
      The plane IL-76 EMERCOM of Russia, flying from Latakia, landed at Moscow's Domodedovo airport at 22:40 Moscow time.

      “On board are 89 people who wish to leave Syria. Among them, 75 citizens of Russia. Most are women and children, ”said Irina Rossius. Also among citizens who wished to leave the Syrian Arab Republic, 9 citizens of the Republic of Belarus and 5 of Ukraine.

      During the flight, they were accompanied by psychologists EMERCOM of Russia, who work in Domodedovo.

      Since the beginning of this year, almost 730 people have left Syria, including today's special flight, with Russian Emergencies Ministry planes.
      I suppose that our government merged Syria in exchange for the supply of weapons to the Arabs; there was such an offer. the sum of the contract is sky-high
      1. alexng
        alexng 28 August 2013 09: 24
        +4
        No need to give elephants ahead of time. While there is an eye-to-eye confrontation before the fight, and who can’t stand this look first. And what will be further unknown to anyone, and even to those who have prepared all this. I think there will be a lot of unexpected surprises for the Americans, and maybe, in addition, the polar fox will come to fool them.
        1. Natalia
          Natalia 28 August 2013 10: 28
          +3
          Great Britain and France (and for the most part the whole EU) - well, in addition to executing US commands, the EU is interested in increasing alternative Russian energy supplies to reduce the dependence of the industrially developed EU countries on the Russian Federation. This seems to me the main reasons, i.e. in this they simply play along with Qatar. Naturally, we are not talking about any democratic values.

          But this is the purest truth, in fact, the whole meaning of the subject is this. The difference between the Syrian scenario and Libya will be only that:
          - that in Libya everyone was bombed out as "legal" with the approval of the UN
          - Well, in Syria, since the Russians are so intractable, we’ll bomb and without the approval of the UN (or Russia), but what's the difference anyway, no one can stop them.
      2. Neksel
        Neksel 28 August 2013 16: 01
        +2
        Quote: waisson
        The IL-76 airplane of the Russian Emergencies Ministry, flying from Latakia, landed at Moscow's Domodedovo airport at 22:40 Moscow time. “There are 89 people on board who wanted to leave Syria. Among them, 75 citizens of Russia.


        I wonder if Ms. Gromova returned with this plane ... bully
        1. grafrozow
          grafrozow 28 August 2013 21: 01
          -1
          Quote: Neksel
          I wonder if Ms. Gromova returned with this plane ...
          +++ Most interesting.
    4. little man
      little man 28 August 2013 10: 20
      0
      Yes, it's not in Moscow. It is useless to drink Borjomi. Ours and so are trying to make the best possible mine with a damn unsuccessful game. Large-scale exercises, Snowden, support for Syria as much as possible .. But we will not succeed now in rattling weapons for there is almost none.
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 13: 09
        0
        We will see ...
    5. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 12: 15
      +1
      And what, from Venezuela, a missile with YaB will not reach the Pentagon and Washington? The Yankees (Jewessionists) are not fools! And we will get London with Paris and Berlin and RUSSIA !!! Although, according to Vanga's predictions, Syria will "fall"! 80% of Vanga's predictions came true !!!! And the rise of RUSSIA, according to her and other predictions, in the 40s-21st centuries !!! God bless us!!! and Syria !!!
    6. nycsson
      nycsson 28 August 2013 13: 34
      +3
      Probably the most important thing now is to withdraw all reserves from US securities and inject this money into the rise of industry and agriculture.
      Who will let us bring them out. Forget about the money. They have already forgiven us.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 28 August 2013 13: 50
        -4
        Quote: nycsson
        Probably the most important thing now is to withdraw all reserves from US securities and inject this money into the rise of industry and agriculture.

        Get hyperinflation.
        1. mazdie
          mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 46
          0
          If you spend on purchases abroad of equipment for machine tools, and other necessary things, then no. You just need to buy fishing rods and not fish.
    7. nycsson
      nycsson 28 August 2013 13: 40
      +2
      Quote: smel
      Missile cruiser Moskva was not supposed to go to Venezuela

      That's right!
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      What will be our actions, already tired of simple chatter, statements. We are waiting for real action!

      And what can be our actions when our arms and legs are connected. The behavior of our government reminds me of a scene with a snake and a frog. The frog yells with good obscenities, realizing that death is occurring, but it’s still creeping into his mouth! request
    8. Dock
      Dock 28 August 2013 18: 28
      0
      Quote: smel
      Missile cruiser Moskva was not supposed to go to Venezuela
      So closer to ii. Time "H" has not come yet.
    9. figwam
      figwam 28 August 2013 18: 31
      +1
      Hit Obama with a hammer, Obama will be gold!
    10. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 09: 22
      +1
      Actually, why not? A visit to Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, that is, to say the soft underbelly of the United States, is very revealing.
  2. Buran
    Buran 28 August 2013 06: 59
    41
    God help SYRIA and its PEOPLE !!!
    1. Crocodile
      Crocodile 28 August 2013 07: 20
      12
      Hope for God, but don’t be bad yourself! Let's hope that at least we find a weapon in Syria to throw a weapon! Although I would like more effective measures.
      1. alexng
        alexng 28 August 2013 09: 27
        +6
        Most likely they already threw, like, a kinder surprise. It was not for nothing that our warships cruised there with a call at the port at their base in Syria.
        1. matross
          matross 28 August 2013 10: 36
          0
          Quote: alexneg
          It was not for nothing that our warships cruised there with a call at the port at their base in Syria.

          Yes, and the Ministry of Emergency Situations are not empty there for sure flew! And back - with refugees wink
        2. Sandov
          Sandov 28 August 2013 13: 44
          +3
          Quote: alexneg
          Most likely they already threw, like, a kinder surprise. It was not for nothing that our warships cruised there with a call at the port at their base in Syria.


          Yes, it would be nice to keep our ships on the roadstead and help Syria to destroy the Kyrgyz Republic and their carriers.
          1. ATATA
            ATATA 28 August 2013 19: 41
            10
            Quote: Sandov
            Yes, it would be nice to keep our ships on the roadstead and help Syria to destroy the Kyrgyz Republic and their carriers.

            Yes ...
            It would be nice now to start the 3rd World War and put in it another 50 Russian cartoons ...
            So what?
            Recall how World War I ended when we harnessed for the Serbs?
            It is necessary to end not with the USA, but with world Zionism.
            By targeted elimination of approximately 500 families that in fact rule the world
            .
            1. novobranets
              novobranets 28 August 2013 20: 28
              +2
              Damn, finally. Sound reasoning, otherwise all are just slogans. yes
            2. mazdie
              mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 47
              +1
              Take a hit on killers?
              1. novobranets
                novobranets 29 August 2013 13: 02
                0
                How much do they take? drinks
  3. Civil
    Civil 28 August 2013 07: 01
    -9
    People are killed there, both sides must be smashed there, and then forced to sit at the negotiating table, forcibly.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 28 August 2013 07: 06
      +7
      Quote: Civil
      They kill people there, both sides must be smashed

      At the point of Vadim, it’s just not to smash it, because in Syria there will soon be nothing to smash, and so half of the country is in ruins, but to be smashed. This requires police forces under the UN flag, but damn it is not real, because no one wants to do this, reckless jihadists will fight against everyone.
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 28 August 2013 15: 46
        0
        Quote: Nayhas
        They kill people there, there it is necessary to smash

        Interesting position. what laughing
        1. alone
          alone 28 August 2013 17: 03
          +1
          belay and there is still something to smash?))
    2. Dimych
      Dimych 28 August 2013 09: 06
      +1
      can, nevertheless, spread both sides?
    3. Sandov
      Sandov 28 August 2013 13: 47
      +4
      Quote: Civil
      People are killed there, both sides must be smashed there, and then forced to sit at the negotiating table, forcibly.


      Close borders from all surrounding states, send amers overseas or to the bottom. And after a couple of months in Syria there will be peace and order.
  4. Nayhas
    Nayhas 28 August 2013 07: 02
    14 th
    A typical compilation based on patriotic nonsense with the expectation of numerous responses like "Hands off Syria!", "Hold on to Assad, Russia will help", "Yes, Assad needs weapons of the ultra-modern S-300/400/500/600 ..., PAK-FA, Su-35 ... "etc. Well, curses in various obscene expressions addressed to the enemies of Assad.
    Maksim Timofeev, you have correctly stated that you do not claim to "analyze the geopolitical and military aspects of the conflict in depth," you did not do it. You have an analysis of emotional comments, not events ...
    1. ale-x
      ale-x 28 August 2013 08: 41
      0
      Are you out of habit outsourced?
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 28 August 2013 08: 44
        +2
        Quote: ale-x
        Are you out of habit outsourced?

        The mind and emotions of some are incompatible.
        1. alone
          alone 28 August 2013 17: 04
          +1
          where there are emotions, the mind rests
    2. uhu189
      28 August 2013 10: 27
      11
      Thank you for your opinion, but I’m afraid you read inattentively, I didn’t seem to point out the delivery of state-of-the-art C-300, PAK-FA, etc. And he did not express curses against the enemies of Syria. To do an in-depth analysis you need to know all the reasons, the course of events and a lot of facts. And due to the specifics of the situation, most of the facts are not known to us. This article is more like expressing my thoughts on this topic, nothing more, the way I see the situation, I do not pretend to anything else, but of course the emotional aspect is also present.
      1. 31231
        31231 28 August 2013 11: 26
        +4
        To do an in-depth analysis of the situation, you have to be Bashar al-Assad, all the rest fit into the framework of "room experts". So your post, your opinion soundly laid out. And I agree with him on many points.
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 13: 14
        0
        But judging by the fact that the adversaries threaten the war of Syria, the militants there soon will have a cord !!!
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 28 August 2013 15: 50
          0
          I would not be so categorical. Assad will now have to fight on two fronts. sad
      3. Nayhas
        Nayhas 28 August 2013 21: 05
        +1
        Quote: uhu189
        Thank you for your opinion, but I’m afraid you read inattentively, I didn’t seem to point out the delivery of the ultra-modern S-300, PAK-FA, etc. And he did not express curses against the enemies of Syria.

        I'm not talking about you, but about the expected reviews on your article. For example below:
        "... you just need good long-range defensive weapons and electronic warfare with specialists, as they break off their wings, they will immediately scratch their turnips."
        "... it was necessary to supply the S-300 and normal weapons a year earlier. It is not too late to supply the S-300 to Iran."
        In general, you yourself see everything.
        Quote: uhu189
        This article is more like expressing your thoughts on this topic, nothing more

        Maxim, any analysis should not be based on emotions and personal sympathies, you need to be completely impartial, information is studied from ALL sources, especially if it comes from opposite sides. And only at the end is a conclusion drawn.
        1. uhu189
          28 August 2013 22: 19
          +3
          Quote: Nayhas

          Maxim, any analysis should not be based on emotions and personal sympathies, you need to be completely impartial, information is studied from ALL sources, especially if it comes from opposite sides. And only at the end is a conclusion drawn.


          I agree with you, Eugene, you are right, the analysis simply has to be impartial, otherwise it makes no sense, it does not bring any benefit other than propaganda. But I can perfectly understand the people who leave such comments. They want to do something, change the situation for the better, how can they be blamed for it? Yes, the passions are off the charts, the proposals are in many ways not feasible and not related to reality, but the main thing is that people don’t give a damn about this topic. Do you think I do not understand and do not realize that in the military sense, we cannot directly help anything? What is now our Black Sea Fleet in terms of the current quantitative composition is almost no less than the Turkish fleet? What can we remove and transfer to Syria the S-300 complexes only by removing them from combat duty in our country, since our military-industrial complex simply cannot physically fulfill the Syrian contract in such a short time? That we have so few combat-ready ships that we cannot even assemble a decent combat squadron, even from all of our 4 fleets, and everything rests on watchtowers and BOD? I understand all this, and as I am sure, the vast majority of forum participants understand this. But in spite of all our weaknesses, it is still possible and necessary to do something to try to prevent events from following the worst-case scenario ... That is why I wrote all this just to tell how I see this trouble with my own eyes and how I understand it ... And it turned out or not - you judge ...
    3. ATATA
      ATATA 28 August 2013 19: 47
      +1
      Quote: Nayhas
      A typical compilation based on patriotic nonsense with the expectation of numerous responses like "Hands off Syria!", "Hold on to Assad, Russia will help", "Yes, Assad needs weapons of the ultra-modern S-300/400/500/600 ..., PAK-FA, Su-35 ... "etc. Well, curses in various obscene expressions addressed to the enemies of Assad.
      Maksim Timofeev, you have correctly stated that you do not claim to "analyze the geopolitical and military aspects of the conflict in depth," you did not do it. You have an analysis of emotional comments, not events ...

      One of the few reasonable comments here.
    4. mazdie
      mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 49
      0
      Waiting for your article.
  5. rainufa
    rainufa 28 August 2013 07: 03
    +9
    Need to chop the root of evil.
    Russia is able, but after that no one will be able on Earth.
  6. fisherman
    fisherman 28 August 2013 07: 03
    0
    all forecasts for Syria (which have been dazzling for a year like the entire Internet) can be conditionally divided into 3 baskets

    author’s forecast fits into one of them
  7. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 28 August 2013 07: 04
    +3
    Alternatively, the analysis is quite satisfactory. The positions of the "supporters of Syria" regarding "what to do" are assessed incorrectly. Neither Iran nor Russia will get involved in an open war in Syria and for Syria (there are corresponding statements by the leaders of these countries).
    1. 31231
      31231 28 August 2013 11: 29
      +6
      AND?! China and the USSR in Vietnam and Korea, too, did not openly engage in war. The USA in Afghanistan did not openly fight with the USSR. I hope you remember the results ?!
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 13: 17
        +2
        Rather, the way it is! Well, if so, we will see !!! GOD help us and Syria !!!
  8. Crocodile
    Crocodile 28 August 2013 07: 09
    14
    Apparently, Russia will again have to come to terms with the status of a third world country! To say that the country is ready for war will never turn its tongue to anyone! Any war is always at the wrong time. But to postpone your active participation in world processes endlessly - you cannot!
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 28 August 2013 08: 40
      -1
      The task of our diplomacy and our military was to prevent the escalation of the conflict and the outbreak of war. They failed her. And to get involved in a war because of an unknown person and it is unclear why it’s just stupid
      1. Crocodile
        Crocodile 28 August 2013 09: 32
        +7
        Diplomacy does not finish its work even after the start of the dialogue of guns! No war has been stopped with weapons! Yes and not all is lost. But I wouldn’t like to be your neighbor on the landing — they would begin to strangle neighbors — don’t look out of the peephole!
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 28 August 2013 09: 45
          -9
          Who's guilty? Do not let anyone in the apartment, put the iron door and have the means of defense - no one will come to your apartment and will not choke! And by the way, the second world war was won by us exclusively with the help of guns.
          1. Crocodile
            Crocodile 28 August 2013 10: 09
            +8
            Thanks for the advice! They slept all their lives with the "doors" open (in fact, to be honest, this was 40 years ago in Russian villages - I still remember!). My hut is on the edge - I don't know anything? So we got to what we have today! am
            1. Dangerous
              Dangerous 28 August 2013 11: 11
              -5
              It was a metaphor about open doors. But the Soviet Union did not live on all that behind the iron doors, but behind the iron curtain. And about the hut - there is a desire to fight - you can always go as a mercenary for Assad or for the militants. In any case, both of those Arabs with their cockroaches in their heads. Were there few people killed in Afghanistan?
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 13: 21
                +3
                Dangerous in quotation marks, you are not only a coward, you are also a mishandled Cossack ...
              2. mazdie
                mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 53
                +1
                And why do you think brave American guys are fighting? For the homeland, for Obama, for money, for citizenship, for the geopolitical interests of the United States? Underline whatever applicable
      2. Dober
        Dober 28 August 2013 10: 52
        +4
        Quote: Dangerous
        And to get involved in a war because of an unknown person and it is unclear why it’s just stupid


        "We are fighting to live in peace"
        /Aristotle. philosopher/

        Fully applies to Russia. How the bearded Greek looked "into the water" ...
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 28 August 2013 11: 57
          0
          This is what the French write about the situation in Syria, about Russia - and after all, ordinary French people read this nasty thing and add their opinion about our country after reading it and this is only one article - I want to strangle the author http://www.inosmi.ru/world/20130828/ 212342422.html
          But the analysis of the position of Germany - most likely this country will not get involved in the war, the Patriot air defense system on the Turkish border with Syria is the maximum - http://inosmi.ru/world/20130827/212301700.html
  9. Cormorants
    Cormorants 28 August 2013 07: 16
    +6
    Syria, we are with you.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 28 August 2013 08: 25
      16 th
      Pack your bags?
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 28 August 2013 19: 50
        0
        Quote: Dangerous
        Pack your bags?

        Dangerous, don't answer Cormorants.
  10. SlavaS
    SlavaS 28 August 2013 07: 17
    11
    Buy iPhone support Abama !!!
    1. Dober
      Dober 28 August 2013 10: 49
      +8
      Quote: SlavaS
      Buy iPhone support Abama !!!

      Buy an "iPhone" from gypsies at the station - bring down the economy of "Abama" !!!
      1. 31231
        31231 28 August 2013 11: 32
        +1
        Thanks, smiled.
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  12. Veles25
    Veles25 28 August 2013 07: 21
    +1
    .........................
    1. Armata
      Armata 28 August 2013 09: 13
      +3
      Well yes. And then you’ll probably sit there as in Avgan you pressed your ass and wrote to leave. I understand that it’s not for you to die there under the bullets of snipers and not to explode on partisan land mines. Try to survive the foot rails with the rakopy. Well, you have to save your economy. Syria can and take. But you’ll only earn your enemies through whom you live.
    2. Sandov
      Sandov 28 August 2013 14: 29
      +3
      Veles.
      The bolder the lie, the more they will believe in it. Watering the interventionists on the outskirts of Syria. These creatures can only be stopped. Here are the real terrorists.
  13. Ivan79
    Ivan79 28 August 2013 07: 24
    +2
    For the US Secretary of Defense
    For the US Secretary of Defense .. The winds of God .. Eagles of an air squadron are martyrs to withstand any possible aggression from battleships and aircraft carriers of the United States into Syrian territory.
    Full text: http://za-kaddafi.greenkomitet.ru/portal/novostnoi-forum/siriya/4850-dlya-minist
    ra-oborony-ssha.html
    1. Garyk701
      Garyk701 28 August 2013 10: 11
      +2
      The MiG-21 and MiG-23 available to Syria will do perfectly for this mission.
  14. Krsk
    Krsk 28 August 2013 07: 30
    18
    Lord punish the pissed ones, I don’t have the strength to look at the lawlessness, what for tolerance, now I will openly rejoice if they have something to happen, and you still look at minke whales in Siberia? they say if we go there ... You just know for you the most dangerous place on earth here, God forbid you to shove. Rather, the Elostone would have fallen.
    1. Denis
      Denis 28 August 2013 07: 51
      0
      Quote: KrSk
      Rather, the Elostone would have fallen.

      If you get banged, then the hike will come to everyone ..
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 28 August 2013 08: 45
        11
        Quote: Denis
        If you get banged, then the hike will come to everyone ..

        But we are an hour later. wink
  15. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 28 August 2013 07: 33
    21
    The article is not an eyebrow, but an eye, +++. Surrender to Syria for Russia is to harm its future. hi
    1. Kushadasov
      Kushadasov 28 August 2013 08: 31
      +3
      It is difficult to say whether this will be called surrender or not, but we, unfortunately, will not be able to prevent strikes. This is clear to any student.
  16. vasiliysxx
    vasiliysxx 28 August 2013 07: 33
    23
    I was educated that we are a powerful state, then twenty years of assholes, they just started to get out there again, but I don’t want to! Russia do not leave Syria!
  17. GUSAR
    GUSAR 28 August 2013 07: 33
    17
    Nobody will protect Syria, it is already afraid that it is doomed, if they want to hit, they will hit. And the fact that Russia is now wow and ... complete nonsense, we will swallow again, and this is how many previous conflicts were swallowed, unfortunately ...
    1. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 28 August 2013 08: 04
      +7
      If it held out against the militants for two years, then it will also hold out under the bombs for several days. The United States will not go on a ground operation. And at the expense of our rulers there is no need to build illusions - these people will not lift a finger of their problems "mouth full". Syria will have to hold on to it.
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 28 August 2013 08: 28
        +2
        A few days is how much - two or three, or maybe a couple of months? Among other things, they have high-precision weapons, they will smash command posts, warehouses, etc., which the militants could not afford. So do not compare monkeys with Kalash and modern fighter-bombers
        1. Krsk
          Krsk 28 August 2013 09: 07
          +1
          Well, for a couple of months there is definitely not one launch of a tomahawk 1,5 lyama candy wrappers so there is no question of months. And a high-precision weapon, if the ground operation is not used, it makes no sense.
          1. Dangerous
            Dangerous 28 August 2013 09: 49
            +2
            Then what is the point of arranging this "mess" for a couple of days? Not for that, they have accumulated and pulled together such forces just to make some noise for a couple of days and scatter home. I think until they are sure that the militants have turned the tide of the war, they will not calm down with the bombing
      2. Kushadasov
        Kushadasov 28 August 2013 08: 37
        +3
        Yes, the Negro mumbled something about "a few days". But to believe mattress is not to respect yourself
  18. igor67
    igor67 28 August 2013 07: 39
    17
    The head of the UN special commission: witnesses indicate that the rebels used chemical weapons

    publication time: 27 August 2013 g., 21: 18
    last updated: August 27, 2013 21:40



    The head of the UN special commission on Syria, Carla del Ponte, in an interview with Swiss television said that the testimony of witnesses suggests that the sarin during the recent incident in Syria was used by opponents of Bashar al-Assad, and not by government forces. She also emphasized that her group has so far failed to find evidence of the use of chemical weapons by the Bashar al-Assad regime.

    - Express your opinion on a possible military operation against the Assad regime
    The Wahington Times newspaper drew attention to the performance of Carla del Ponte on Swiss television.

    Del Ponte, the former Attorney General of Switzerland, the former Attorney at the UN International Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia and Rwanda, said that UN inspectors visited neighboring countries to Syria, where the victims were taken, and talked with both the Syrians and the doctors of the field hospitals. She noted that according to the report she saw last week, the commission also has no convincing evidence that sarin was used in Syria.

    The publication notes that Carla Del Ponte became famous for several scandalous statements. In particular, in her book "The Hunt. Me and War Criminals", she accused not only Moscow and Belgrade, but also the CIA, the UN, Washington and NATO for opposing the International Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.
    1. Vladimir_61
      Vladimir_61 28 August 2013 07: 59
      0
      Quote: igor67
      rebels used chemical weapons

      You can add: http://vz.ru/politics/2013/8/26/647210.html
    2. Krsk
      Krsk 28 August 2013 09: 13
      +3
      Do you think this solves something? The UN has long lost its meaning ... So the Moor will say the face and with the screech of his vassals rush to Syria ...
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 28 August 2013 14: 36
        +3
        Quote: KrSk
        Do you think this solves something? The UN has long lost its meaning ... So the Moor will say the face and with the screech of his vassals rush to Syria ...

        And we are screaming vassals in the face, but in the face.
      2. novobranets
        novobranets 28 August 2013 16: 02
        0
        The Moor will not say anything until he is allowed.
    3. Proud.
      Proud. 28 August 2013 12: 20
      +1
      Quote: igor67
      The head of the UN special commission: witnesses indicate that the rebels used chemical weapons
      The UN puppeteers decided otherwise. I quote: "The United States intercepted the negotiations of the Syrian authorities on the use of chemical weapons. The main evidence of the alleged use of chemical weapons by the Syrian government forces is the intercepted telephone conversations of the Syrian leadership, RIA Novosti reports citing a source. As the source notes, the US authorities managed to intercept telephone conversations between an official of the Syrian Ministry of Defense and the commander of one of the chemical troops on the day of the alleged attack. According to the media, in the intercepted conversation, an official of the ministry is emotionally trying to get a military explanation about the chemical attack from the military. The US claims that the Syrian government is behind the chemical attack. The source also notes that this fact raises new questions about who is responsible for the alleged chemical attack. l chemical weapons are unauthorized. "... Surely they have already concocted the" proofs ".
  19. 77bob1973
    77bob1973 28 August 2013 07: 42
    +8
    In Tartus, you just need to put a couple of ships and shoot down everything that flies, I think they will not risk shooting at ours and defense is legal.
  20. olviko
    olviko 28 August 2013 07: 54
    +5
    "Well, and the last and most important thing is the United States. About the goals of the United States (or rather, not even the United States, but the people who make decisions in the United States for the sake of supranational government structures), you can talk a lot, very much, I will try to minimize it."

    The main thing is still the shitty situation in the US economy and the huge debt that the states are not able to pay in the usual way. In fact, it is a bankrupt country, with nuclear weapons and powerful armed forces. For example: "As of August 1, 2013, 12 cities have already declared themselves bankrupt and have ceased to serve their social obligations, 346 cities and 113 municipal districts of the country are in a pre-default state. These stories are carefully hidden. And the world learned about Detroit only because the socio-economic situation there was completely out of control and could not be hidden. In Detroit, the numbers are generally monstrous. An analysis of the census showed that 48.5% of all men aged 20 to 64 living in the city are unemployed. The average cost of a house in Detroit is now - only $ 6000, and some houses are exposed at all for a symbolic $ 1. Only 25 percent of schoolchildren graduate from high school. It is no longer possible to cover the deficits with traditional transfers from Washington because of the sequestration law. Over the next 3 years, an avalanche process of bankruptcies of US cities is expected , which is able to put the entire country on the brink of sovereign default. " The social obligations of the state remain at an extremely high level. The current political elite will have to take unpopular measures to reduce social standards. But Americans are so used to a comfortable life with large benefits and pensions that they cannot even accept this idea. War as a way of solving one's internal problems is a situation known in history. Israel also plays an important role in this in this so-called "chaos", which undoubtedly benefits from the weakening of all its neighbors.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 28 August 2013 08: 43
      -3
      You are clearly not in the know. Municipal budgets have no connection with the regular ones, and those with the federal one. Different sources of income, and even more so different items of expenditure. The bankruptcy of Detroit does not, at least directly, affect the state of Michigan, and the latter does not affect the federal budget. So what better next time write about what you at least somehow understand.
      1. olviko
        olviko 28 August 2013 10: 31
        +8
        "World Bank expert Eric Schweizern explained in an interview with Expert Online:" In the United States, many social obligations in recent years have been transferred from the federal to the state level, and the states themselves, in turn, willingly gave them to municipalities. Suffice it to say that out of 22 social programs initiated since 2008 under the Anti-Crisis Pact, only 3 remained with the federal center and 7 - with the state budgets. Problematic assets in the public administration system are also transferred to districts and urban settlements. This is done in order to hide the huge deficit of the country's consolidated budget, which, if taken together, already has definite default parameters. I think the World Bank expert understands these matters, well, at least not worse than such an indisputably great authority on the US economy, like you.
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 13: 48
          +3
          They were sorted out that they had accumulated such a debt .... or all of them ... x, so their own hungry blacks from default cities will give a request ..... !!!
        2. Revolver
          Revolver 28 August 2013 20: 05
          +1
          Quote: olviko
          World Bank expert Eric Schweizer in an interview with Expert Online explained
          Perhaps this expert understands something better than me, but I understand a little better about the specific functioning of American social programs, because I take information not from newspapers, but directly from experience with social services. He probably sits somewhere in the office of the World Bank, maybe not even in America, but draws information from newspapers, the network, and statistical reports, which hardly have all the details of the functioning of these programs.
          My parents arrived in America too late to work out a full pension and earn old age. Therefore, they live entirely on social benefits. Since they do not speak enough English, I have to ruin their relationship with social services, so I am familiar with these programs much better than I would like. Of these, Food Stamps, Section 8 Housing, and Medicaid are paid from the federal budget, but are administered by the state. This means that full-time social workers on the spot decide whether the person is subject to the rules of the program (age, income, available savings and other criteria) and if so, what amount can be calculated. But the federal government transfers the funds to the Food Stamps card, and it pays the medical bills too.
          And there is a school breakfast program for poor children, which is also federal and paid from the federal budget, but is administered at the level of either the city department of education or the school in general. The truth about this I do not know painfully, because my children do not fit the status of the poor. But the application forms for this program are distributed to all children at school, apparently so as not to highlight the needy, otherwise they will be accused of discrimination.
          1. olviko
            olviko 29 August 2013 11: 54
            +1
            I pay tribute to your patriotic impulse, but the facts are stubborn things. Speaking of children: the number of children living in extreme poverty in the state of California from 2007 to 2010 increased by 30 percent. According to the National Center for Poor Children, 36.4% of children living in extreme poverty in Philadelphia, 40.1% of children in Atlanta, 52.6% (!) In Cleveland, and 53.6% in Detroit. According to the Brookings Research Institute, from 2000 to 2010 in the United States, the poverty level increased from 15% to 40%. So in short:
            The city of Stockton filed for bankruptcy on June 28 last year due to a downturn in the housing market and accumulated debt. On July 43, Mammoth Lakes filed for bankruptcy for failing to pay $ 412 million in damages. San Bernardino filed for bankruptcy, becoming the third largest bankrupt American city. Rockland County, New York, already cut 18 jobs in the middle of last year after Moody's gave it a negative outlook due to its $ 16,8 million budget deficit. Scranton, PA is currently short of approximately $ 2014 million in the budget. Bankruptcy forecast: I quarter of 2013. Providence, Rhode Island In late May, a bankruptcy judge in Central Falls, a city in Providence County, said, "I don’t know how else they can get out of this except by filing for bankruptcy." Default forecast: Fall 2014. Santa Ana, Calif. The city's credit rating by Moody's is just one higher than insolvent status. Bankruptcy forecast: 2014. Long Beach, California Projected bankruptcy: 2013. Costa Mesa, California To save money, the city of Costa Mesa sold police helicopters and cut its payroll. Bankruptcy is expected in December 2014. San Diego, California, has plagued the city for years, and most of the proposed solutions have a negative effect on the new workforce while doing little to reduce the ever-mounting debt. Defaulted in 238. Los Angeles, California has a $ 7 million city deficit, huge unsecured retirement liabilities and an annual budget of nearly $ 2014 billion. Default expected (unless rescued by the federal center): February XNUMX.





            1. Revolver
              Revolver 29 August 2013 13: 03
              0
              Quote: olviko
              I pay tribute to your patriotic impulse, but the facts are stubborn things.
              What does a patriotic impulse have to do with it? I'm just trying to prove to you that budgetary problems and even the bankruptcy of individual cities do not directly affect the state and federal budgets. And the fact that in some cities things are very deplorable is the facts and no one argues with this, at least not me.
              The staff budget consists of income taxes on residents, taxes on business profits, and taxes on retail sales.
              The municipal budget mainly lives on property taxes, and where there is large commercial real estate, municipalities are richer than those where only housing and small businesses.
              Now imagine that real estate prices have fallen in some city without going into the reasons for this fall. Since tax is a fixed percentage of the appraised value of homes, municipal income has fallen. But the police, firefighters, teachers, and all other state employees have to pay. The city is either trying to borrow money, or is cutting public sector employees, and usually both. In general, a disaster of local importance. How does this affect the state and federal budgets? But no way. Public sector employees make up a fraction of a percent of the tax base, and the loss of income tax from those dismissed is less than the error in rounding.
              Very simplistic, but somehow.
      2. Garyk701
        Garyk701 28 August 2013 11: 48
        +2
        At least indirectly affects investments and business in the region. Moreover, Western investors are reacting like an avalanche rollback to such "incidents" in the state. Enterprises are closing, subcontractors are closing, people are increasing the burden on the federal budget through benefits. It is very difficult to reverse the situation in the capitalist economy.
      3. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 28 August 2013 13: 35
        +1
        They beat me not in the passport, but in the face ... Hungry Negroes pokh ... from whom the money goes ...
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 28 August 2013 20: 14
          +2
          Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
          Hungry blacks pokh ... from whom the money goes ..

          That is why among the non-white poor there is such a level of obesity that the Ministry of Health characterized it as an epidemic. Google "Obesity epidemic", you can get it.
          1. olviko
            olviko 29 August 2013 12: 45
            0
            Googling "Obesity epidemic, impressed by your advice! Worldwide, 10% of children are obese, while in the United States, the number of overweight and obese children has reached 32%. In addition, in the United States, obesity rates in children almost tripled between 1980 and 2000. Sick nation!
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 29 August 2013 17: 52
              0
              So what did you want? If they eat in places like [McDonald's], generously washed down with fence paint like coca and pepsi, and their favorite entertainment is a TV with a bag of popcorn and the same coca. This 32% is a general statistic, and if you look at the breakdown by income group and race, the numbers will be much higher for the non-white poor.
              And as for the sick nation - there is none. This is in Russia the absolute majority of Russians, and all the rest (except for the Caucasus) are very Russified, if not by blood, then certainly in their worldview and lifestyle. And here the white Anglo-Saxons are not the majority for a long time Negros african americans separately, Latinos separately. If the white middle class has statistics on education, disease and life expectancy at the level of the rich countries of Europe, then the non-white poor at the level of Africa. Well, there are many groups between these. And then there are illegal immigrants, mostly Latinos, who seem to be there, but they seem to be not, and they are arbitrarily included or not included in the statistics, depending on what they want to show.
      4. mazdie
        mazdie 28 August 2013 21: 58
        +2
        We are talking about the virtuality of the American economy, the real sector of which has remained leash in the service sector. Almost all production from the territory of the United States is brought to Asian countries.
      5. Docent1984
        Docent1984 29 August 2013 11: 10
        0
        Oops, mishandled Cossack spoke. The representative of the army of the probable enemy. Not afraid to be late for the broadcast of a new reality show from Syria? Do you have all the unleashed wars in this format presented to the public there?
  21. Odysseus
    Odysseus 28 August 2013 07: 56
    +4
    The author wrote
    And those same people who escalate the situation with Syria later if they need to donate the United States as well as all other states, this does not mean anything in their global manipulation policy.

    This point is not entirely clear. After all, global TNCs must have a base state. They cannot fly to Mars. And the reverse "transition" of the capital of the capital world from the USA to Europe seems extremely unlikely.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 28 August 2013 08: 51
      +2
      Quote: Odyssey
      After all, global TNCs must have a state base

      Why? Capital is relatively easily moving across borders.
      Quote: Odyssey
      They can’t fly to Mars.

      But they are not tied to a specific country, i.e. territories where it is warmer, there is a homeland. The United States, having lost political capital and people's faith in them (faith in democracy, equality and other such nonsense), will already become an illiquid commodity that can be turned in, well, or abandoned.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 28 August 2013 19: 09
        +2
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Why? Capital is relatively easily moving across borders.

        Capital moves easily, but the carriers of capital must live somewhere.
        And most importantly, for TNCs it is necessary to have one strongest state that ensures the stability of the "new world order". Otherwise, the power of transnational capital will come to an end.
        The United States so far no one can replace in this role.
  22. igor67
    igor67 28 August 2013 07: 58
    +7
    And further. The author, did Jordan turn out to be also an enemy? !!, actually Syria introduced tanks to Jordan in 1970, there was a full-scale military conflict, an attempt was made on the King of Jordan in which he miraculously survived, so I would not say that it friendly states it's east
    1. Krsk
      Krsk 28 August 2013 10: 05
      +2
      Well, revenge is shorter ... But if we all remember everything, what will happen? Geyrope will definitely be sick and the rest have something to ask. So a bad cover, they say, and then ... 43 years have passed it is no longer notable? It seems that even the king of Jordan said that all Arabs are brothers. If all the brothers are there, then it’s better to be one child in the family ...
    2. uhu189
      28 August 2013 10: 34
      +3
      I will explain what the enemy meant by the word - Jordan at the moment, willingly or not willingly is a transshipment base for delivering militants to the territory of Syria, there are allegations that there are camps for their training. It is unlikely that their presence is caused by the happy ignorance of the authorities of this country. And this policy is clearly not friendly
      1. igor67
        igor67 28 August 2013 10: 59
        +1
        Quote: uhu189
        I will explain what the enemy meant by the word - Jordan at the moment, willingly or not willingly is a transshipment base for delivering militants to the territory of Syria, there are allegations that there are camps for their training. It is unlikely that their presence is caused by the happy ignorance of the authorities of this country. And this policy is clearly not friendly

        From the history of Jordan, the main population was BEDUINS: The subjects of the kingdom of Transjordan, 90% of which are deserts, were mostly Bedouins. The small population of cities and villages located mainly in a valley on the eastern bank of the river. Jordan identified itself as Sunni Muslim Arabs, as, in fact, the vast majority of the Arab-speaking population of western Palestine. About 5% of the population of Transjordan were Christians and migrants from the Caucasus - Adygs ("Circassians"), Abazins, Abkhazians, Chechens, Armenians. Why the Bedouins do not like Arabs I don’t know? !! I worked with the Bedouins, called them Arabs, they were very offended, although I don’t see much difference between them, except that they are not all nomadic
  23. Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 28 August 2013 08: 00
    +5
    The most important lesson from the predatory policies of the United States, Britain and France is that it is necessary to get out of the enslaving treaty of the Strategic Initiative. The existing number of nuclear munitions with a huge number of potential targets is not able to ensure the real security of Russia (an increase of ten times is necessary and then you can sleep peacefully; it is unlikely that even frostbite US politicians will decide to aggression against Russia).
    1. 77bor1973
      77bor1973 28 August 2013 08: 23
      +5
      It would be more correct to withdraw and the INF Treaty is more important to us.
      1. ale-x
        ale-x 28 August 2013 08: 52
        +3
        That's right, the amers will not go to fight like the Germans in 41. If there is a war, then with the same scumbag-mercenaries as in Libya and Syria.
  24. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 28 August 2013 08: 04
    11
    Probably the most important thing now is to withdraw all reserves from US securities and inject this money into the rise of industry and agriculture. Develop an army.

    That’s right. A cap is needed. It’s useful for a rainy day, but it should work for our economy, and not for the American one. It’s enough to provide the American currency, which is not secured by anything other than banging your heels on your chest, i.e. commitments about your economy need to invest.
  25. ICT
    ICT 28 August 2013 08: 12
    +6
    What Syria can do is only one thing - to resist and hold out as long as possible, shoot down as many planes as possible, try to attack ships on the coast and destroy as many militants as possible. Time will work for Syria and against aggressors.


    obviously losing position.

    more preferably, guerrilla tactics, while retaining the backbone of the forces loyal to him, let the troops of the "allied forces" in and try to force them to bear the greatest possible losses in manpower.

    something like
    1. Akhtuba73
      Akhtuba73 28 August 2013 12: 45
      +5
      Quote: TIT
      guerrilla tactics

      It will not be possible to partisan for a long time when in your country the hordes of Basmachi are already "partisans". As soon as the organized resistance of the government forces falls, the whole pack of terrorists will quickly flood the entire territory of the country and carry out a cleanup to zero, they have been waiting for this so much !!
      There are no well-calculated options for large-scale resistance without external assistance (unfortunately), the amers are not stupid, everyone has calculated and practiced. I do not rule out the nuances of individual foci and the duration of the resistance of government forces. The most vile option is drawn. BUT!! This pessimism will be real if external forces are not stuck. But on what scale, composition, and alignment they get stuck, the question is. And here the scale of optimism depends on these values. Until the invasion operation is curtailed ... We are waiting for an optimistic option.
      And also GDP sage for all sorts of extraordinary tricks, let him bend something ... to someone
      1. ICT
        ICT 28 August 2013 17: 43
        +3
        if people loyal to him will now remain faithful to him after (and not disappear like the Libyan army), namely the ground intervention, they’ll just swap places with the current militants, that’s the whole difference,
  26. My address
    My address 28 August 2013 08: 17
    14
    Hope that GDP will come up with an effective non-standard course. In foreign policy, he is for the country. But hard. Babama makes it clear that he will not depart from Syria. And the facts they do not care. This is not good, but I want a big trouble America, very big. After all, insolent to can`t!
    1. My address
      My address 28 August 2013 09: 16
      14
      According to the comments of all the opinion is about the same. Therefore, cons without authorization consider as dirty tricks because of the angle.

      Concerning.

      I repeat.

      Surely I wish America a great deal of trouble.

      PEOPLE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR GOVERNMENT.

      EVERY DAY IS NOT SUNDAY.
    2. optimist
      optimist 28 August 2013 09: 20
      +6
      Quote: My address
      Hope that GDP will come up with an effective non-standard move.

      Just another "moment of truth" is coming for our dear "guarantor". (The first one, with a fart, he screwed up safely). In the course of the strikes, it will become clear whether the S-300s were delivered or not. And the most important point: as sanctions against the aggressors, the supply of hydrocarbons will have to be stopped. And this is pure suicide both for GDP and for Russia ...
      1. My address
        My address 28 August 2013 09: 39
        +3
        It is extremely critical to GDP. Please note that I wrote positive about him only on foreign policy. I consider him a citizen / president not of the country, but of the Kremlin. True, they correct me that he is not a representative of the Kremlin, but of the "inner circle", which includes farthers. The latter became minister when the GDP was the guarantor.
      2. Voskepar
        Voskepar 28 August 2013 14: 01
        +5
        The Persians shared with Syria what they are rich in:

        1. Vlad 1965
          Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 09: 32
          +3
          Looking at these shots, I doubt that the vaunted Iron Cumpole of Israel will intercept all this iron in the event of a massive strike.
          The consequences for hawks in yarmolks can be very, very unpleasant.
        2. Sandov
          Sandov 29 August 2013 12: 31
          +2
          Persians well done. But this missile weapon is already old. But God will give and it will not hurt. Jackal must be crushed by any means.
  27. pinecone
    pinecone 28 August 2013 08: 20
    11
    According to the Iranian news agency FARS, on August 26, the head of the Iranian parliament's foreign affairs commission, Hossein Sheikholeslam, said the United States would not dare to attack Syria. According to him, "even if this happens, which seems impossible, the first victim of an armed attack on Syria will be the Zionist regime."
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 28 August 2013 08: 32
      +1
      It’s good for him to shake the air, it’s not his country that was surrounded on all sides and missiles were sent
  28. Krsk
    Krsk 28 August 2013 08: 26
    12
    Barack (his mother) Obama with his own hands signs an agreement on military cooperation with al Qaeda. So he spat on his people who forever remained in the towers on the soldiers who died in Afghanistan, Iraq. The elimination of bin laden was carried out with one goal - to take its place. Everything is simple. And the world still considers him the president of usa, but very soon everyone will understand that he is the leader. The leader of the most serious gang. And what? Look at his behavior- UN? into the furnace, sanity? into the furnace, pity? into the furnace. He drags his people into the abyss, or rather, they go there at a rapid pace. Under the friendly howl of shackles, oh, forgive the allies. At first, Adolf, too, was full of his imaginary significance; after 4 years, everything ended with a canister in the courtyard of the Reich Chancellery. Give Obama a history book or it will end sadly for everyone ...
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 28 August 2013 08: 34
      +2
      well, he didn’t start it and it is not known whether it will end on him. Remember Clinton in 1999 and Bush in 2001 and 2003.
      1. Krsk
        Krsk 28 August 2013 10: 12
        +3
        Of course he wasn’t, but they all had a choice, but what about the terminal ... maybe on it. How many rope do not curl ...
    2. ale-x
      ale-x 28 August 2013 08: 56
      +6
      The cost of the US education system? He is simply "used in the dark", although there is an option - perhaps he is personally interested in chaos - black is still, oh, sorry, African American. I wrote the word correctly, but don't give a fuck ...
    3. stroporez
      stroporez 28 August 2013 08: 57
      +9
      Yesterday the floor was laid, and the TV was turned on. Some kind of amerskaya garbage went off. So there it sounded from the lips of the "good guy" ---- "We don't have to keep our word, because WE are the United States ... ..... ". if at the level of consumer goods it is invested that the Americans can handle their words like they want (they wanted to give them, they wanted to take them away), then why are you surprised ?? wassat
  29. holding
    holding 28 August 2013 08: 32
    +2
    Article plus. Of course, a lot can be added to the written, but in general, somehow.
  30. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 August 2013 08: 34
    10
    we are the only ones who resist chaos, a new world war. Despite the collapse, the dominance of traitors and thieves in all levels of power, the country is trying to stop this gloom that goes to the whole world. Get it — or time will tell. But I believe that will work out. It will be a long road, hard, but it is necessary to pass it.
    The author liked the article plus !!! It is sad of course to look at all this ... In the days of the USSR, even in a nightmare, this could not be dreamed .. Well, what a war is war. We are now all Syrians! The truth is on our side!
  31. VadimSt
    VadimSt 28 August 2013 08: 39
    +2
    Russia will not undertake anything "frightening"! Lavrov said everything at the press conference, while repeating twice: - "We are not going to fight with anyone." And it is right. Another thing is that everything else will help in this situation of Syria, as a dead poultice.
    The only hope is the conclusions of the commission and the desire to listen to it.
  32. Per se.
    Per se. 28 August 2013 08: 41
    14
    The article does not pretend to be the depth of professional analysts, but it is well verified, with an intelligible presentation of the author's thoughts. I liked it for the author's sincere concern for the fate of Russia and our entire sinful world. Unfortunately, little will change from our articles and comments. Everything that is happening now in Syria was in Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, it must be in Iran, it was voiced as a prelude to the weakening and destruction of Russia, many years ago. What conclusions have been drawn? Everything, like peas against a wall, like a whip against a butt! I am impressed by the highly spiritual optimism at the end of the article, but if we once did not intervene in Yugoslavia, Libya, and are ready not to intervene in Syria, even at our base or support point in Tartus, then where is our line of defense? When will Russia itself be imposed on all sides? It's high time to shout "Polundra!" and prepare for war, what are we preparing for, preferring to make money by exporting our weapons and technologies to foreign armies, and spending billions on commercial projects? I don’t want to be a fatalist, but involuntarily you will believe in karma, a program, a universal code of Destiny ... What should be done to be the creators of our own happiness, to contribute to the victory of truth and justice, and not to give everything at the mercy of mercantile scum-ghouls deciding for everything the world in its flawed morality, who would know.
  33. Kolya
    Kolya 28 August 2013 08: 45
    +7
    Quote: Crocodile
    The Russian government should at least DO NOT RECOMMEND its citizens rest in Turkey, and urgently bring this requirement to tour operators. Maybe Turkey will change its mind?

    These are the most influential methods !!!!!!
  34. Mr.M
    Mr.M 28 August 2013 08: 51
    +5
    Very competent analysis, the article is a solid "+". Yes, the author is not clairvoyant and some points will probably develop differently, but I really liked the holistic approach to the analysis - allies / enemies, comparison of interests, probable actions and scenarios for the development of events.

    As for Syria, I really want to hope that if events develop according to the scenario of military intervention by the West, the Russian Federation and Iran will find a worthy answer. For example, the already mentioned mining of the Strait of Hormuz.
  35. Micex
    Micex 28 August 2013 08: 52
    10
    1) What are the vital (I emphasize) interests of China in the BV ??? These cunning Chinese act according to the principle "Vaska listens and eats", supporting Russia at the UN and quietly capturing Africa.
    2) The Saudis, after the visit of their prince to Moscow, and the Qatari people, after the change of power in Qatar, jumped from this topic and no longer interfere.
    3) Without attempting to analyze at all, what the hell the USA, Britain and France started (since it is not entirely clear what goals they pursued at the beginning of the conflict), one thing can be stated - Moscow did not leave them any choice, because for them to leave Syria is a defeat which they are not ready to go. Even if they swim now, stand and leave, it will be a loss. Therefore, the war in Syria is a logical outcome of the actions of Syria and Russia, now everything depends on Assad and his actions. If he wins, it will be a demolition of the hegemony of NATO, but it is hardly believed, since the Russian Federation will not fight on his side and, most likely, even Iran will abandon its obligations. But I want to hope for his victory. It is cynical, but, nevertheless, just like that.
    4) Noteworthy is the fear of Nato close to Syria. They are afraid .ukes, at first they want to process rockets, and then they will feel and see what to do next
  36. xzv
    xzv 28 August 2013 08: 54
    +4
    I have some suspicions that Saudi Arabia may suddenly repaint and become at least neutral. After all, for some reason they went to Russia! In addition, provocative material appeared on the network in the English press as if Putin had ordered a massive blow to Saudi Arabia in response to the Syrian attack. It’s just not like that. Someone really wants to put pressure on the Saudis and quarrel them with Russia.
  37. tomket
    tomket 28 August 2013 08: 54
    +5
    and why not Russia begin to launch airstrikes on the opposition ??? Imagine a picture, F-15s fly to bomb Damascus, and let’s say, Su-34 go by to Homs, and a little distance from the Tu-22 they roll Qatar into the sand, and quite by accident from Tartus a couple of torpedoes that are lost control are stoked by Ocean and De Ark. Oh dreams, there is something .....
    1. ICT
      ICT 28 August 2013 17: 35
      +1
      Quote: tomket
      and let’s say Su-34 go by to Homs, and a little distance Tu-22 roll into Qatar sand,

      but an interesting idea,
  38. Alexander borey
    Alexander borey 28 August 2013 08: 59
    -5
    The author has lost touch with reality. He is satisfied with the policy of Russia? Is this about Putin’s surrender to Syria? Did Russia produce all military-technical measures? What measures? Where are they? Where are the supplies? Where is the weapon? WHERE DOES THE PROMISE OF PUTIN WHAT HE DOESN’T LIVE SYRIA IF EVEN THE BATTLE ACTION WILL REACH THE STREETS OF MOSCOW? Why is Putin silent? I will answer. Putin is silent, because there is nothing to say, the S-300 was not delivered to Syria, we are not going to help. This is IMPORTANT. Everything else in the article is water and lyrics. I say this with bitter regret, because I believed in Putin. But it turns out that in vain ..
    1. Micex
      Micex 28 August 2013 09: 06
      0
      and what had to be done? send troops there? 3rd world start?
      1. Alexander borey
        Alexander borey 28 August 2013 09: 17
        +4
        Quote: Micex
        and what had to be done? send troops there?

        Yes, nothing has already been done. I sold the GDP to Syria. I handed it over to the Anglozhidosaks. You know, I don't give a damn about the pros and cons. I'm not earning a "title" on the site, but expressing my opinion. Because of a friend, you can start the 3rd world. Amers would start, I have no doubt. Because of Israel or England. I say this even though I know that the United States is enemy number 1. And the USSR would start.
        1. Nitup
          Nitup 28 August 2013 09: 30
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Borey
          And the USSR would start.

          The USSR never got into an open war with the United States. Our military specialists, pilots, etc. have always acted in conflict countries behind the scenes.
          1. Alexander borey
            Alexander borey 28 August 2013 09: 42
            +6
            Publicly, secretly ... What's the difference? The main thing is that the Union acted, and did not blow bubbles from its nose, as the Russian leadership is doing now. I know for sure - the USSR would never have allowed this.
            1. Nitup
              Nitup 28 August 2013 09: 51
              +3
              First, the USSR has not been for 22 years already. If the USSR did something, it was because it had such opportunities. And let's not shout ahead of time that "the mustache is gone." Who acts and how, we do not know for certain.
              1. Alexander borey
                Alexander borey 28 August 2013 09: 54
                0
                Quote: Nitup
                If the USSR was doing something, it was because it had such opportunities.
                We have opportunities, comrade "lieutenant colonel" laughing
                And I don’t scream, but you fly in the clouds hi
                1. Nitup
                  Nitup 28 August 2013 10: 04
                  +1
                  I do not fly anywhere, but try to assess the situation objectively. At least to say that we did not do anything, I would not begin ahead of time.
                  1. Alexander borey
                    Alexander borey 28 August 2013 10: 22
                    -2
                    Quote: Nitup
                    At least to say that we did not do anything, I would not begin ahead of time.
                    I didn’t say that. Yes, Russia in the UN Security Council is against war. But drool, you must agree. Russia didn’t deliver S-300 complexes under the contracts, we threw Assad under pressure from the West and Israel. Let's be objective until the end, and not partially. Putin in theory, I should turn to the nation, and Lavrov to resign. Immediately.
                    When a country has this or that modern weaponry and it / the country / is threatened, then any leader will demonstrate this weapon, making it clear that it will be bad for the aggressor. What are we seeing in Syria? Newspaper tales about the mythical Syrian "three hundred"? They are not there and were not.
                    1. Nitup
                      Nitup 28 August 2013 10: 35
                      +2
                      Quote: Alexander Borey
                      .But drool, you see. Russia didn’t deliver S-300 complexes according to contracts, we threw Assad under pressure from the West and Israel

                      Well, how can you know for sure?
                      Quote: Alexander Borey
                      Let's be objective to the end, and not partially. Putin, in theory, should appeal to the nation, and Lavrov to resign. Immediately.

                      Why on earth?
                      Quote: Alexander Borey
                      When a country has one or another modern weaponry and is threatened by it / country /, any leader will demonstrate this weapon, making it clear that the aggressor will be bad

                      It is not known what he is showing to whom. Why won't the US still hit Syria if it has nothing?
                      1. Alexander borey
                        Alexander borey 28 August 2013 10: 55
                        +2
                        Quote: Nitup
                        Why on earth?

                        Lavrov did not cope with his work. And they will hit Syria, they will certainly hit. You will see that in the near future Russia will receive "benefits" and lucrative contracts from the West. After MAKS and the G20. This will be "thirty pieces of silver" for a passive position on Syria.
                      2. Nitup
                        Nitup 28 August 2013 11: 08
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Borey
                        Lavrov did not cope with his work. And they will hit Syria, they will certainly hit. You will see that in the near future Russia will receive "benefits" and lucrative contracts from the West. After MAKS and the G20. This will be "thirty pieces of silver" for a passive position on Syria.

                        Yes you, dear seer. Wait and see. The easiest way to deal with demagogy.
                      3. Alexander borey
                        Alexander borey 28 August 2013 11: 20
                        -1
                        Quote: Nitup
                        Yes you, dear seer

                        No need to be a seer and an astrologer in order not to notice the obvious things. The main thing is that I am not a tyrant. Do not think that I'm hinting at you laughing
                      4. Nitup
                        Nitup 28 August 2013 11: 32
                        +3
                        Quote: Alexander Borey
                        Do not think that I'm hinting at you

                        No no, what are you? I’m not both d and d. Don’t think that I am hinting at you.
  39. Micex
    Micex 28 August 2013 12: 50
    +2
    "" "Moscow did not leave them a choice, since for them to leave Syria is equal to a defeat, which they are not ready to accept. Even if they now swim up, stand and leave, it will be a loss. Therefore, the war in Syria is a logical result of Syria's actions and Russia, now everything depends on Assad and his actions. If he wins, it will break NATO hegemony, but it is hard to believe in this, since the Russian Federation will not fight on his side and, most likely, even Iran will refuse its obligations. But I want to hope for his victory och. Cynically, but, nevertheless, just like that. "" "" I wrote about this a little higher in the comments.
    Syria is not an ally to us (and thank God - read the history of its warrior), but a country that is an ally - it promotes our interests, we - its. And Putin did absolutely everything that he could for NOT ALLY.
    And who will attack Belarus - yes, yes, Russia will stand up for the ALLY. That's just what it does.
    About minuses, I did not raise a conversation at all - I, like you, express my point of view and check my analytical calculations.
    I understand your opinion that it is sad from all this, but objectively everything was done correctly. As for me, I am pleased with Russian diplomacy.
  • Nitup
    Nitup 28 August 2013 09: 27
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Borey
    Where are they? Where are the supplies? Where is the weapon?

    I cannot understand such questions at all. It is a weapon that, on television, should show and tell how many and what exactly we put in Syria?
    Quote: Alexander Borey
    WHERE DOES THE PROMISE OF PUTIN WHAT HE DOESN’T LIVE SYRIA IF EVEN THE BATTLE ACTION WILL REACH THE STREETS OF MOSCOW?

    Did he promise you this personally? Or is it incomprehensible who wrote in some newspaper? What makes you think that he said so?
    1. Alexander borey
      Alexander borey 28 August 2013 09: 37
      0
      Quote: Nitup
      I can’t understand this position at all

      You will understand this position when nothing will be left of Syria, and world channels show a close-up view of the execution or the corpse of Assad, and perhaps first the first, and then the second. As for your questions, look in the internet. There is no S-300 in Syria and you are in Make sure of this when American missiles begin to smash this country to pieces. I do not think it will take long to wait. I must face the truth, and not indulge in illusions about "SECRET SUPPLIES OF RUSSIAN SUPERORUZHIYA". laughing Amers and Jews there are all captured.
      1. Nitup
        Nitup 28 August 2013 09: 45
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Borey
        As for your questions, look on the internet. There is no S-300 in Syria

        Well, yes, of course, the Internet is the same ultimate truth. Do not be so naive.
        1. Alexander borey
          Alexander borey 28 August 2013 09: 50
          +3
          Quote: Nitup
          Don't be so naive
          It seems naive you. I do not consider it necessary to explain the obvious. Let's continue further in the same vein. I will look at your opinion after the destruction of Syria. I will even give you a plus.
          1. Nitup
            Nitup 28 August 2013 09: 59
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Borey
            I bet you even a plus.

            I bet you too. Don't want to stay in debt
      2. mazdie
        mazdie 28 August 2013 22: 16
        +1
        None of the S-300s will protect against a mass attack of several countries. EW means are important here, and on this occasion it will be clear only after the end of the mess and analysis of the consequences.
  • uhu189
    28 August 2013 10: 47
    +8
    I assure you, I have not lost. What, in your opinion, landing ships with enviable regularity transported to Tartus (the forum has a schedule of their passage through the Bosphorus)? What did the marine corps do (and maybe do) there? Have you ever heard of militant activity in the vicinity of Tartus? Me not. Or should all goods be reported in the news on the ORT channel? Remember the situation in Libya - there was a change there - after the start of the events and before the bombing began, how much time passed, remember - a couple of months. And what prevented the NATO countries from starting a military action earlier? Do you really believe in their humanism or economic considerations? So I'm afraid they ditched money in a completely comparable amount for a guerrilla war. So maybe you shouldn’t lose faith in the country?
  • alekseinew
    alekseinew 28 August 2013 14: 46
    +2
    what do you lament, put the S-300 there, I know the person who commanded their loading from Novorossiysk, and even the devil knows what was sent there
    1. 12061973
      12061973 28 August 2013 21: 33
      +1
      Quote: alekseinew
      what you lament, put the S-300 there,

      I think along with 300 they should have sent Chechens, such as the East battalion, but they are all at home and are not going anywhere.
      1. alone
        alone 28 August 2013 21: 39
        +1
        with one battalion to do what they failed to do with the 300 thousandth army in 2,5 years? Pavel Grachev resting))))
  • mazdie
    mazdie 28 August 2013 22: 12
    +1
    We do not know how and how Russia helps the Syrian government.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 August 2013 09: 06
    +1
    There is nothing to guess so far. We are waiting for the first blow (if they decide) and then we'll see ..
  • sudaa
    sudaa 28 August 2013 09: 08
    +8
    I think it's time for the "iron curtain", but not in the literal sense. and establish Zhez control at the border. Those. All the money should be returned to Russia, including the money of the oligarchs. They want their money to work for the needs of Russia, no question. And if they don't want to, let them sell the enterprises on our terms and run to the West to sleep peacefully, as in advertising ...
  • darksoul
    darksoul 28 August 2013 09: 15
    +2
    Complete world lawlessness, I really want to believe that the S-300 is already in Syria and in capable hands ... I would put Iskander there so that the jackals' neighbors feel "protected"
  • Alexander borey
    Alexander borey 28 August 2013 09: 22
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Borey
    and what had to be done? send troops there?

    Who will call Russia after the surrender of Syria GREAT POWER ?! Will our language turn to "dignify" ourselves? Great countries of friends DO NOT RENDER.
    1. I'm Russian
      I'm Russian 28 August 2013 11: 20
      +3
      [quote = Alexander Borey] [quote = Alexander Borey] what should have been done? send troops there? [/ quote]
      Who will Russia call the GREAT POWER after the surrender of Syria?
      20 years there is NO POWER ... A bunch of citizens (Russians) in the early 90s surrendered to the CIS, and even more so to Syria
      1. Alexander borey
        Alexander borey 28 August 2013 11: 35
        +1
        Quote: Russian
        A bunch of citizens (Russians) in the early 90s surrendered to the CIS, and even more so to Syria

        I agree with you, colleague. To my deep regret, I completely agree. We passed ... we kept the power, there was only a pale shadow from the USSR. And after the surrender and destruction of Syria, the shadow will disappear. It is painful to look at the next inglorious geopolitical defeat of Russia.
        1. vasiliysxx
          vasiliysxx 28 August 2013 22: 38
          +1
          Yes, what are you waiting for ahead of time stop it’s not for nothing that Putin is silent, a huge hairy pig will be planted on the campaign to the accursed Anglo-Saxons
  • ed65b
    ed65b 28 August 2013 09: 23
    +9
    Maxim, a separate plus and respect for the resume. I think the blow to Syria to some extent and the revenge of the "smoked" Putin. France and Britons are not very fighters, they even did not have enough ammunition and fuel for Libya, and there is nothing to say about Syria. America is the one who will bear the brunt of the entire operation on its shoulders. And "smoked" understands this very well. We must convince the United States not to make fatal mistakes. for this it is necessary to press in Afghanistan. to sharply increase the activity of the Taliban, or even better, to secretly provide them with military-technical assistance. And it will be useful for the future. And Syria, that you can only wish to rally and fight. for them it is - the Second World War for us. Good luck to Syria and its people. may the Lord keep them.
    1. alone
      alone 28 August 2013 21: 45
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      To do this, click in Afghanistan. sharply increase the activity of the Taliban, and even better behind the scenes to provide them with military-technical assistance


      you know, Eduard, after the Americans and NATO leave Afghanistan, the Taliban will certainly go to Central Asia. The 201st will take the main blow. the same guys. the Taliban are at the same time with those who are running in the mountains in the Caucasus and with those who are building their caliphate in Syria. enemies cannot be armed.
  • Konstantm
    Konstantm 28 August 2013 09: 25
    +2
    Mercosos have already said their word. Where is Putin? We are waiting for his reaction to this unpleasant situation. I wouldn’t want to, oh, how I don’t want a big war. Fucking Anglo-Saxo-Jews.
  • Renat
    Renat 28 August 2013 09: 26
    +3
    There is a striking and relatively recent example - Vietnam. After all, they did not then give the country to be eaten by jackals. There is one but. Then there was the Soviet Union. Now what? Are we so weak? Exchange of Libya to join the WTO. But who needs this institution except for corrupt bureaucrats and rusted nouveau riche?
    1. mazdie
      mazdie 28 August 2013 22: 19
      +2
      Then the people had an idea, now only grandmas.
  • Rambiaka
    Rambiaka 28 August 2013 09: 31
    +5
    But the truth, as always, is one ...
  • UzRus
    UzRus 28 August 2013 09: 32
    +4
    Forecasts - forecasts, thoughts - thoughts, and how it really will be - FIG knows. Time will tell ... Only one thing is clear - there will be nothing good in any situation. Now they will not decide on an intervention - after a while they will come up with some other excuse and begin anyway. What is this world heading for?
  • maestro123
    maestro123 28 August 2013 09: 40
    +3
    Quote: Micex
    and what had to be done? send troops there? 3rd world start?

    There is no such need, you just need good long-range defensive weapons and electronic warfare with specialists, as the wings break off, they immediately comb the turnips.
    But at the diplomatic level, Russia correctly says: we do not want war!
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 28 August 2013 09: 56
      +2
      Quote: maestro123
      There is no such need, you just need good long-range defensive weapons and electronic warfare with specialists, as the wings break off, they immediately comb the turnips.
      But at the diplomatic level, Russia correctly says: we do not want war!

      That's right, that's the way to act. They say that we will not fight, but send specialists with defensive weapons. By the way, if the Tomahawks from submarines will strike, what land-based weapons of such boats do we have that can be delivered to Syria, given that the US will strike from a sufficiently large distance (the maximum range of the Tomahawks)?
      1. Alexander borey
        Alexander borey 28 August 2013 10: 01
        +1
        Quote: Nitup
        so it is necessary to act

        Let's act! Let's ! soldier Where do we start? And when? Huh? recourse
        1. Nitup
          Nitup 28 August 2013 10: 07
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Borey
          Let's act! Let's ! Where do we start? And when? Huh?

          It says above what to do.
          1. Alexander borey
            Alexander borey 28 August 2013 10: 11
            0
            Quote: Nitup
            It says above what to do.
            Do you even believe in it yourself? Only honestly.
            1. Nitup
              Nitup 28 August 2013 10: 26
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Borey
              Do you even believe in it yourself? Only honestly.

              From the fact that I believe or do not believe, nothing will change. I can only express my opinion. And to speak ahead of time and cite the Internet as an argument, I would not
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 28 August 2013 12: 37
        0
        Quote: Nitup
        That's right, that's the way to act. They say that we will not fight, but send specialists with defensive weapons.

        Will you go
        1. Nitup
          Nitup 28 August 2013 12: 43
          0
          What should I do there? I am not special in air defense, etc.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 28 August 2013 12: 47
            0
            Quote: Nitup
            What should I do there? I am not special in air defense, etc.

            Well, why then do you want to send others to the meat grinder?
            1. Nitup
              Nitup 28 August 2013 12: 52
              +1
              Because you need to control this weapon, without specialists it is useless
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 28 August 2013 13: 00
                -1
                Quote: Nitup
                Because you need to control this weapon, without specialists it is useless

                Tell me, what will the use of a pair of complexes against a pair of thousands of high-precision missiles give?
                1. tilovaykrisa
                  tilovaykrisa 28 August 2013 14: 56
                  +2
                  Where is 2000 from? 200 pieces will be released, with a maximum of 300, they plan to destroy about 150-200 military infrastructure facilities within 72 hours. But I agree with you that a couple of complexes will not solve anything. For example, a couple of divisions could cover Damascus reliably.
      3. mazdie
        mazdie 28 August 2013 22: 22
        +1
        NO, moreover, to the aircraft carriers from the coast there is nothing to get besides aviation, neither to the Syrian nor to us. If only Iran with its mini submarines.
        1. alone
          alone 28 August 2013 22: 28
          +1
          30 ships of the escort group should be next to any aircraft carrier. The group includes apls, patrol ships, reconnaissance ships. Do you think the AUG zone is a passage yard?
          1. Vlad 1965
            Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 09: 39
            +2
            The checkpoint is not a checkpoint, however, at the time, the COURSE commander was not in vain given the Star of the Hero, just because the AUG missed everything in the world and the fighting happened, the aircraft carrier kayuk, and not only him.
            Do you really think that the support forces of the AUG are so omnipotent?
            There are guys from the Fleet on the forum who can explain what our submariners are capable of.
            1. sasha.28blaga
              sasha.28blaga 30 August 2013 10: 17
              0
              There are nuclear submarines, which are called "Carrier Killer".
            2. Che
              Che 31 August 2013 12: 11
              0
              Vlad, for this the amers quietly sank the Kursk. Such a legend exists.
        2. Sandov
          Sandov 29 August 2013 12: 34
          +1
          NO, moreover, to the aircraft carriers from the coast there is nothing to get besides aviation, neither to the Syrian nor to us. If only Iran with its mini submarines.

          We could get them even from our territory.
          1. sasha.28blaga
            sasha.28blaga 30 August 2013 10: 18
            0
            And on land you feel more confident than if on the high seas.
    2. Micex
      Micex 28 August 2013 15: 23
      0
      so no one there in the first couple and is not going to fly. They will start bombing with tamahawks, and no casualties among personnel. and if they activate the S-300 to combat missiles, they will bomb them immediately with 10 tomahawks. there are only 4 of them, Syria will keep them like a trump card in the sleeve, if they are at all there ...
  • mitya-k
    mitya-k 28 August 2013 09: 42
    0
    And here I am interested in the calm that our president made! Maybe he gave time for thought, warning, while doing tactical preparations!
    1. Asgard
      Asgard 28 August 2013 13: 08
      +2
      not our "president" is silent like a fish on ice))))
      funny he))) actor .....
      How can I win anything with such a thing ....
      Hooray-patriots in conjunction with "trolls" of course this will underline red)))))
      But I will express a few thoughts ...
      Obama is forced to sign the "swotting" of Syria with "axes" ... a ground operation is out of the question ....
      THERE IS THE ARMY Hardened by BATTLES and pin.dosam with allies (gays)) there is nothing to do, only send 200 cargoes to their homeland ....
      ..but they still sell it, Barack Huseynovich is a Negro and did not study well at school))))
      otherwise how did he become a resident .....
      Again Assad was bombed in an attempt to kill him, to destroy the power vertical, so to speak ... And this really means a lot ...
      As not our Putin said, "this is scrap" ....
      for Syrian society ... and its center of resistance ....
      The army doesn’t run (and it’s hammering both militants and special forces of Israel and Turkey)))
      society is not corrupt, all the "traitors" have already fled and there were not many of them ...

      So only rockets ....
      and then on condition that Iran does not jam ....
      Russia does not count, soon with the Russian general will not be considered ....
      cruiser "Moskva" in Venezuela (what the hell if not on purpose)) went around the world ...
      The Pacific came to Australia ... as if we had a lot of naval vessels ...
      Parsley is standing in the port, the Black Sea people are sleeping in the barracks ....

      Things are good)))
    2. mazdie
      mazdie 28 August 2013 22: 24
      0
      It seems to me that a decision is being made, all the pros and cons are weighed.
  • komsomolets
    komsomolets 28 August 2013 09: 45
    +4
    yes they piss off, they’re even ... you, but not so much, the force is at the limit, cheap show-offs in the form of aircraft carriers off the coast of Syria for alarmists like you, but imagine how hard psychologically Assad’s armies are still fighting.