Military operation in Syria may begin in the coming days

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Military operation in Syria may begin in the coming days

The US authorities promise in the coming days to publish a report on the use of chemical in Syria weapons. The corresponding order was signed by the head of the White House, Barack Obama. In Washington, there is almost no doubt that the toxic substances were used by the Bashar al-Assad regime. To find out whether it is so or not, a special UN commission is trying, which is now working in the Arab Republic. And the world media, meanwhile, is confident: the United States and European allies are ready at any moment to launch a military operation in Syria.

Will the Western countries begin a military operation in Syria, and if so, when? Worldwide, analysts are trying to answer this question, and are eagerly awaiting the results of the investigation of the UN commission. Experts should find out whether chemical weapons were used in the Arab Republic. Experts arrived in the 26 region of August and almost immediately came under fire.

“I was informed that a sniper had fired at the commission’s column. Despite this, our team returned to Damascus and continued its work. The experts visited two hospitals, talked to the victims, witnesses and doctors, and also took some samples. - said UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

Without waiting for the outcome of the investigation, Washington in absentia accused Bashar al-Assad of using prohibited weapons. The White House allegedly has irrefutable evidence. True, what exactly, do not say.

"We will continue consultations with Congress. President Barack Obama will continue to negotiate with our key allies to decide how to respond to the use of chemical weapons in Syria. But make no mistake, President Obama is sure that those who use chemical weapons cannot be forgiveness, "- categorically John Kerry, US Secretary of State.

A little to defuse the situation tried US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel. During a visit to Indonesia, he said that America was not going to start a new war.

“Until we collect all the facts, and we will not be absolutely sure what exactly is happening in Syria, I will not be able to talk about the further actions of the United States and their consequences,” he said.

If the international military campaign against Syria does begin, the European allies will support the United States. First of all, the UK and France will go for it. Germany also promises not to stand aside.

"The use of chemical weapons is a crime against humanity. If reports of poisoning by the Bashar al-Assad regime are proven, the international community must take action. And Germany will not stand aside," said Guido Westerwelle, the German foreign minister.

Moscow, in turn, opposes military intervention. Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov urged Western partners to follow international agreements on Syria, reached earlier.

“I think we are already seeing the dire consequences of previous interventions in conflicts in this region. Look at what is happening in Libya. The central government, with which we maintain a dialogue, does not control the vast territories of our country. Arms went to Mali, where they were repulsed, but they are also feared in other countries, particularly in Niger and Chad. Look at Iraq, where dozens of people die every day and hundreds are injured in bloody terrorist acts. " - urged the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

The newspaper The Guardian, meanwhile, believes that the operation in Syria may begin in the coming days. According to the newspaper, London has already transferred additional military aircraft to its air base in Cyprus. It is located just 160 kilometers off the coast of Syria. The air base in Akrotiri is expected to become the main transport hub of the military campaign. In this capacity, she has already acted during the international operation in Libya in 2011.

And the publication of The Washington Post conducted a survey among readers: is it worth Western countries to intervene in the Syrian conflict? Nearly two thirds of readers are opposed. In the comments to the article, users are reminded of the events in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. People believe that the United States is now more than ever close to unleashing another senseless bloody war.
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  1. good123
    +50
    27 August 2013 09: 01
    The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!! angry
    1. +32
      27 August 2013 09: 06
      Quote: gud123
      The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!!


      Yeah. I quote an opinion

      Lavrov: Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013.
      1. +50
        27 August 2013 09: 25
        Quote: Vadivak
        Lavrov: Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013.

        That's right. Why fight on your own? There are excellent weapons systems that can cope for us. The Syrians and Iranians will actually start fighting. This is enough for a cold shower in the form of coffins in Europe and the USA.
        1. +32
          27 August 2013 09: 51
          Quote: domokl
          That's right. Why fight yourself?

          Alexander, hi ! Yury Krupnov, the Russian political and public figure, chairman of the Development Movement, spoke very harshly about this:

          - Before us is the second edition of the great "Iraqi deception", when the political establishment of the United States and Great Britain went for a political forgery to start hostilities and the subsequent occupation of Iraq in 2003. If then the forgery consisted in the assertion that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction, now they want to do the same with Syria, using for this the fact that Assad allegedly used chemical weapons.
          In this situation, the Russian leadership needs a system of strict measures to prevent the escalation of the conflict and the intervention of foreign powers in it, which could very well trigger the outbreak of the third world war.
          For one and a half years, the Russian foreign policy establishment has not taken any serious measures to strengthen Russia's position on this issue. And over the past six months, especially after the offensive of the Syrian army began, and Assad’s troops transferred the strategic initiative, Russian diplomats show hatred at all.

        2. -18
          27 August 2013 11: 30
          Quote: domokl
          There are excellent weapons systems that can handle us. The Syrians and Iranians will actually start fighting

          Who will pay for these systems - with an almost zero chance of returning the invested?
          1. +33
            27 August 2013 12: 32
            Quote: Pimply
            Who will pay for these systems - with an almost zero chance of returning the invested?

            Eugene, when the world is on the brink, it does not matter.
            1. -21
              27 August 2013 12: 49
              The world is not on the edge, Sash. And even when he is on the verge - everything has a price.
              1. +11
                27 August 2013 16: 02
                Quote: Pimply
                The world is not on the edge, Sash. And even when he is on the verge - everything has a price.


                or maybe it’s not worth it to drive the world to the edge only in order to get your own price! the price is already very prohibitively high even for the corral
                1. -4
                  27 August 2013 16: 36
                  Quote: regressSSSR
                  or maybe it’s not worth it to drive the world to the edge only in order to get your own price! the price is already very prohibitively high even for the corral
                  What are you talking about?
                  1. +12
                    27 August 2013 17: 31
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Quote: regressSSSR
                    or maybe it’s not worth it to drive the world to the edge only in order to get your own price! the price is already very prohibitively high even for the corral
                    What are you talking about?


                    all about the same! that the United States began to play war! about the fact that for a long time they themselves, in a lie of two-facedness and world aggression, crossed the conditionally red line that they drew for Syria! that Romanov is right, the world is already on the brink, and after the fall of Syria, the consequences for the world will be completely unpredictable even for the customer of this show! that for the sake of reaching for purely selfish interests, amers puts the whole world on the brink of a hollow and, in the pursuit of profit and the return of a shaky status of an image of a superpower, this campaign can prove fatal for them!
                    1. 0
                      27 August 2013 17: 52
                      Quote: regressSSSR
                      all about the same! that the United States began to play war! about the fact that for a long time they themselves, in a lie of two-facedness and world aggression, crossed the conditionally red line that they drew for Syria! that Romanov is right, the world is already on the brink, and after the fall of Syria, the consequences for the world will be completely unpredictable even for the customer of this show! that for the sake of reaching for purely selfish interests, amers puts the whole world on the brink of a hollow and, in the pursuit of profit and the return of a shaky status of an image of a superpower, this campaign can prove fatal for them!

                      Any major power plays war games. Because it is the advancement of one’s interests.
                      1. +6
                        27 August 2013 18: 07
                        Quote: Pimply

                        Any major power plays war games. Because it is the advancement of one’s interests.


                        I agree! only appetite comes with eating! and he is prohibitively high in the usa! Having played a bit, they already do not notice the line beyond which the world can slide into the abyss (although they can certainly fall into this and specially let it down)
                      2. +1
                        27 August 2013 18: 11
                        They try not to fall off the train, which already carries without them
                      3. 0
                        27 August 2013 20: 01
                        Quote: Pimply
                        They try not to fall off the train, which already carries without them


                        also an option and besides chutli is not the worst possible because there it all leads to and where the unreasonable or stupidly-stubborn or just do uncontrolled trains all of us are aware !!! (especially as dangerous as the American ones) and in this vein of the development of events for the rest of the world, there is only one thing left to use is the phrase from the hackneyed Amerovsk films and the pretentiously pronounced usually by the President of the United States (and may God help us all)
              2. +3
                28 August 2013 01: 04
                Quote: Pimply
                The world is not on the edge, Sash. And even when he is on the verge - everything has a price.


                Mature, balanced cynicism. From true not far, but not in this case. Here we must pay the Syrians to destroy the bearded more actively.
              3. -1
                28 August 2013 08: 31
                But not to join the United States?
                Until they joined us in their own way!
          2. +14
            27 August 2013 13: 23
            Quote: Pimply
            Who will pay for these systems - with an almost zero chance of returning the invested?

            Again you ... Well, let it be for you (the trader) an advertisement for Russian products. We must see her in action. And again, the losses of the attackers on Syria will be much more than ours (the gift of weapons). Or do you not think so? What do you think? I am at a loss ...
            1. -24
              27 August 2013 13: 36
              Quote: Alexej
              Again you ... Well, let it be for you (the trader) an advertisement for Russian products. We must see her in action. And again, the losses of the attackers on Syria will be much more than ours (the gift of weapons).

              Do you get personal, sweetie?
              And if it turns out to be less, there will be an unpleasant surprise and a couple more of the lost billions for which you could replenish the pension fund, for example?
              1. +21
                27 August 2013 13: 44
                Quote: Pimply
                And if it turns out to be less, there will be an unpleasant surprise and a couple more of the lost billions for which you could replenish the pension fund, for example?

                There will be a more unpleasant surprise if this happens on our territory, and then all your pension funds cried, sweetie.
                1. +15
                  27 August 2013 15: 07
                  It seems that all countries play their roles in advance, including Russia. From the moment of the collapse of the USSR, especially in the last years of the USSR under Gorbachev and to the current government, I see treason against Russia. Otherwise, how to explain the constant step-by-step surrender of the positions: to list for a long time here are some of the many surrenders: the collapse of the organization of the Warsaw Pact countries, I understand the collapse of the USSR, but it was possible to create a similar counterbalance to NATO, the closer countries to the borders of Russia, allowed to divide Yugoslavia, the fall of Iraq , Libya, now it is also possible to Syria, then what is Iran? Otherwise, how could we explain the refusal of deliveries of c-300 to Iran, perhaps they didn’t deliver Syria, I read it as if we didn’t put Syria’s combat fighters and many weapons that would permanently discourage the desire to attack Syria. It turns out that fulfilling the request of Israel and America, our authorities thereby gave Syria absent-mindedly to be torn to pieces by the NATO, and in order to save our face we support the supply of weak Syrian weapons, we are demonstratively conducting the squadron exercises off the coast of Syria to make it clear that Syria is under protection. Now the aggravated situation of the 2 fleet Usa getting ready for aggression and where is our fleet? and he sailed in advance to the shores of Australia and to Cuba with Venezuela. One question ... but not everything is so hopeless - the example with the defense of Abkhazia and South Ossetia showed that we can show our will contrary to the west. But there are practically no such examples I want more.
                  1. Luger
                    -18
                    27 August 2013 15: 19
                    a lot of letters, half is not in the business, the second half has nothing to do with the topic at all, from the category just to "crap"
                    1. +13
                      27 August 2013 15: 28
                      I express my point of view and do not impose it on you, I outlined my knowledge of the reasons for a possible war against Syria, but it's easier for you to minus and cheat opponents who disagree with your point of view.
                  2. V. Ushakov
                    +9
                    27 August 2013 16: 36
                    We need about 5 years to re-equip and re-equip the army. While we are weak, we must admit this in order to quickly eliminate this deficiency. What we really need to do is strengthen the military-industrial complex in every possible way, and this must be done headlong and quickly. And to lean on the Strategic Missile Forces, medium and short-range nuclear missiles. Namely - nuclear ones and place them along the western and southern borders, including the border with Ukraine, which is trying to get into the lackeys of NATO and the EU. The time of ceremonial "friendship" has passed, now the usual, harsh, wartime. It's time to understand, no one will spare us.
                    1. +17
                      27 August 2013 18: 51
                      Quote: V. Ushakov
                      We lack about 5 years to re-equip and rearm the army.

                      Us ALWAYS NOT ENOUGHyears to rearm the army.
                      It is time to understand that rearmament is a constant and endless process. All the talk that we are about to be ready, or vice versa, that we did not have enough time to prepare and rearm, is just an excuse for inaction or betrayal. In extreme cases, propaganda designed to hide the real causes of what happened.
                      1. +6
                        27 August 2013 20: 48
                        The same leaders have been in power for 23 years. There wasn’t enough time to rearm, but there was enough time to pull away the country’s previously acquired. Everything is very muddy.
                    2. Yarbay
                      +12
                      27 August 2013 21: 08
                      Quote: V. Ushakov
                      We are missing about 5 years for the re-equipment and rearmament of the army

                      Nonsense and self-deception!
                      while the Serdyukovs and others like them rule, and in freedom these 5 years will constantly be missed!
                      1. +1
                        27 August 2013 21: 54
                        Jews, Azerbaijanis ........ everyone is teaching Russia how to live and build an army. Guys, do you have enough of your own problems ?! Or do you have no one to talk to ?!
                      2. +3
                        28 August 2013 06: 53
                        Hello, they don’t teach but worry about Russia! One can listen to someone else’s opinion rather than slide into dividing people into nations. Or invite site admins to ban All users not from Russia, that’s probably going to be cool talking !? Oh, there’s another solution - you can blame it on some website for Natsiks, there many will support your point of view!
                      3. +1
                        28 August 2013 09: 32
                        Where did you see the habits of the nationalist ?! How can I address people with flags of Azerbaijan or Israel when they speak out with moralizing towards Russia ?! Citizens of the world ?! What is offensive about the words "Azerbaijani, Jew"? Moreover, many are proud of their nationality, of course not to the detriment of others.
                  3. good123
                    +1
                    27 August 2013 20: 07
                    It seems that all countries play their roles in advance, including Russia.

                    This is the theater of the absurd.
                  4. Yarbay
                    +11
                    27 August 2013 21: 06
                    And they said here they definitely won’t surrender to Syria!
                    I’m sure they will surrender then and now, the question is only in price, alas!
                    I remember when Assad in an interview announced that the S-300 complexes were already in Syria, then the very next day Putin said that it wasn’t that the complexes hadn’t been delivered yet !!
                    One must be realistic, present-day Russia is very far from the USSR and cannot stand up to the West!
                    The forces are unequal!
              2. +5
                27 August 2013 18: 23
                Quote: Pimply
                And if it turns out to be less, there will be an unpleasant surprise and a couple more of the lost billions for which you could replenish the pension fund, for example?

                Didn’t you, in an hour, advise the Ukrainian side on economically disadvantageous entry into the CU?
                1. -1
                  27 August 2013 18: 25
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  Didn’t you, in an hour, advise the Ukrainian side on economically disadvantageous entry into the CU?

                  Tell me, what is the benefit of writing off 14 billions of debt?
                  1. +4
                    27 August 2013 18: 42
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Tell me, what is the benefit of writing off 14 billions of debt?

                    I won’t say - my head is not so big ... laughing
                  2. +2
                    27 August 2013 19: 18
                    Dear, not everything is bought for money. Please do not confuse us with the Americans, who will sell their mother.
                    1. +7
                      27 August 2013 19: 25
                      Quote: Stas
                      Dear, not everything is bought for money. Please do not confuse us with the Americans, who will sell their mother.

                      Not all. As practice has shown, countries that accept gratuitous cash assistance, very easily betrayed the USSR, and just as easily sell Russia.
                    2. Yarbay
                      +3
                      27 August 2013 23: 48
                      Quote: Stas
                      Dear, not everything is bought for money. Please do not confuse us with the Americans, who will sell their mother.

                      Apparently, the Saudi prince who recently arrived in Moscow managed to * convince * Putin on the Syrian issue, although everyone wrote here that Russia did not go to persuade!
                      You can personally not sell anyone, and whom do you have when you say do not confuse US ??
                      1. +2
                        28 August 2013 00: 02
                        Quote: Yarbay

                        Apparently, the Saudi prince who recently arrived in Moscow managed to * convince * Putin on the Syrian issue, although everyone wrote here that Russia did not go to persuade!
                        You can personally not sell anyone, and whom do you have when you say do not confuse US ??

                        I mean the overwhelming majority of the population of Russia, but the family is not without freaks.
                        And on the bill, the country's leadership would like to believe that they will not surrender to Syria. Otherwise, everything will turn away from Russia ....
              3. +4
                27 August 2013 19: 04
                And why do not you think the money of the Israeli Pension Fund when the territory of Syria is being bombed? Why don’t we Russians care about spending Israel’s budget? Do you care about other people's problems?
                1. -4
                  27 August 2013 19: 07
                  Quote: 31231
                  And why do not you think the money of the Israeli Pension Fund when the territory of Syria is being bombed? Why don’t we Russians care about spending Israel’s budget? Do you care about other people's problems?

                  Because Israel does not throw billions of dollars into adventures.
                  1. +3
                    27 August 2013 20: 50
                    Do you like to count other people's money? For what? Envy?! or is it professional and you are an accountant?
                    The war of 2006 and the bombing of Damascus, what dividends have brought you?
                    1. -1
                      27 August 2013 20: 56
                      Quote: 31231
                      Do you like to count other people's money? For what? Envy?! or is it professional and you are an accountant?
                      The war of 2006 and the bombing of Damascus, what dividends have brought you?

                      My friend, who told you that they are strangers? I pay taxes in Russia. And you ?
                      1. +1
                        27 August 2013 22: 02
                        Bulk hope also pays.

                        Do you know the difference in what ?! I do not boast that I pay taxes. For it is routine and necessity. I am not indignant that this money is being stolen somewhere there, because I didn’t stand on a chipper there. I do not resent the poor medicine and roads, for my grandfathers in more difficult times lived and did not moan. But I am proud that I am Russian and live in Russia.
                        If I do not like power, I will go to the polls, not the barricades.
                      2. +1
                        27 August 2013 22: 28
                        Quote: 31231
                        But I am proud that I am Russian and live in Russia.

                        Pride is not just a bulging nose, and assume that let everything be done by uncle. Like criticism, and concern about what taxes are spent on is not hatred of the country, it is concern for it.
                      3. 0
                        27 August 2013 22: 44
                        That is, criticism of Navalny's concern for Russia ?!
                        Something I rarely see representatives of Israel criticize their authority. Is she perfect there?

                        I’m not far away, I thought that caring for Russia is observing its laws and fulfilling its duty when it requires. And you see how ?! it must be constantly criticized.
                      4. +1
                        27 August 2013 23: 11
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                        Quote: 31231
                        That is, criticism of Navalny's concern for Russia ?!
                        Something I rarely see representatives of Israel criticize their authority. Is she perfect there?

                        Well, maybe you should read more? The Israelites' favorite pastime is kicking their politicians. And - in Israel, corrupt officials are being planted.
                      5. 0
                        27 August 2013 23: 43
                        It’s a fairy tale, not a state. If everything is OK, then why should Israel not refuse the help of the USA and gesheft from Germany?
                      6. 0
                        27 August 2013 23: 52
                        Quote: 31231
                        . If everything is OK, then why should Israel not refuse US assistance

                        Is it said somewhere about a fairy-tale state? No. Israel receives assistance from the States on an equal basis with Egypt, for refusing a piece of land twice its size.
              4. +1
                28 August 2013 08: 33
                If you beat a housemate - help those who hit you, maybe something will come from your bounty!
          3. Don
            +2
            27 August 2013 13: 57
            Quote: Pimply
            Who will pay for these systems - with an almost zero chance of returning the invested?

            Iran has money to pay, and if Syria holds back, then there then Russian companies will get a bunch of contracts.
            1. -5
              27 August 2013 14: 03
              Quote: Don
              Iran has money to pay, and if Syria holds back, then there then Russian companies will get a bunch of contracts.

              Yes? Syria is currently asking for loans. Iran is experiencing serious economic difficulties due to the boycott, and are potential contracts for a country to which Russia recently wrote off 14 billion debt?
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              2. +1
                27 August 2013 19: 09
                Do you know shoto for Iran? Oh wow! and why do these Jews consider themselves smarter than others ?!
              3. +2
                27 August 2013 21: 13
                Quote: Pimply
                Russia wrote off 14 billion debt?

                Soviet debts! We wrote them off to a lot of people! hi
                1. -1
                  27 August 2013 21: 27
                  Quote: ultra
                  Soviet debts! We wrote them off to a lot of people!

                  There are not only Soviet ones. Syria and now took a loan. I wonder how it will give.
          4. shpuntik
            +8
            27 August 2013 14: 03
            Avatar Senior Lieutenant
            Pimpled (1) RU Today, 11:30 ↑
            Who will pay for these systems - with an almost zero chance of returning the invested?

            So SHA and England, (Entente in our opinion :-), pay for the war with the calculation of return on investment? good Eugene, if not Freud’s reservation, then at least it’s wonderful for the purpose. Namely: war is a business.
            1. 0
              27 August 2013 14: 13
              Quote: shpuntik
              So SHA and England, (Entente in our opinion :-), pay for the war with the calculation of return on investment?

              Do you doubt it?
              1. shpuntik
                +5
                27 August 2013 15: 56
                Pimpled (1) RU Today, 14:13 ↑
                Do you doubt it?

                No, I didn’t doubt it. I didn’t know that you were sure of that ...
                1. +2
                  27 August 2013 16: 38
                  Quote: shpuntik
                  No, I didn’t doubt it. I didn’t know that you were sure of that ...

                  Moreover, every country, including Russia, is seeking benefits. Only Russia very often invests huge amounts of money, getting minimal exhaust. Here is the main difference.
                  1. +2
                    27 August 2013 19: 16
                    And the US was already invested so much that only an official public debt of 17 trillion. And it’s not a shame for your state to take material assistance from a debtor ?! Is Israel in poverty like Egypt?
                  2. shpuntik
                    +6
                    27 August 2013 21: 12
                    Pimpled (1) RU Today, 16:38 ↑
                    Moreover, every country, including Russia, is seeking benefits. Only Russia very often invests huge amounts of money, getting minimal exhaust. Here is the main difference.

                    Here I agree completely, how much the Union spent on the world revolution is incomprehensible to the mind. Official debts of 10-12 billion, but how many are unofficial? No one knows.
                    Let's see what Sha with homies will win. Will not the "empire of good" receive, an aspen stake in the back?
                    1. -2
                      27 August 2013 21: 31
                      Quote: shpuntik
                      Let's see what Sha with homies will win. Will not the "empire of good" receive, an aspen stake in the back?

                      Will not receive. They have a bigger pocket, and they think it’s better.
                  3. +5
                    27 August 2013 21: 15
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Only Russia very often invests huge amounts of money, getting minimal exhaust.

                    Exactly! For example, American depositary receipts.
                    1. 0
                      27 August 2013 21: 33
                      Quote: ultra
                      Exactly! For example, American depositary receipts.

                      Do not make me laugh.
                      Hundreds of billions swollen into Africa, smacked into infinity - yes.
                      1. +1
                        28 August 2013 13: 31
                        Do not confuse “God's gift” with “scrambled eggs!” There is money from the USSR, and Russian money is invested in American securities.
                  4. +2
                    27 August 2013 23: 47
                    At the moment, the situation is like a reversal, a minimum of funds, and unnecessary hustle and bustle with the maximum effect, it’s the West that is now rolling up in weekly Istria about Syria, especially Åland makes itself look like a total jerk, Russia says with restraint, gentlemen, no! and so actually two years. By the way, in the evening it turned out that Obama didn’t really want to give the order for the bombing, he would have called the congressmen, who would only announce themselves in September and somehow languidly, despite the peppy reports of the military, but again the oland was stretched like a pug, once again posing as a laughing stock.
              2. +8
                27 August 2013 16: 25
                So I do not quite understand your comments? Do you hope to live well after the war? Let me ask, are you a military officer? If so, which state? Do you know the history of the Great Patriotic War?
            2. +7
              27 August 2013 16: 59
              [quote] shpuntik [/ quote]
              [Quote]So SHA and England, (Entente in our opinion :-), pay for the war with the calculation of return on investment? good Eugene, if not Freud’s reservation, then at least it’s wonderful for the purpose. Namely: war is a business.[/ Quote][/ Quote]

              the ideology in wars has long receded into the third plan and is used only to achieve the main goal (uninterrupted enrichment); sha has long ago turned the world into a war of corporations whose purpose is to control and uninterrupted income and profit (the world feeder in general! sha always act like a global Paroza who has gone all the way to what they can reach and the worse they become gluttonous Ameri’s parozite, the tentacles rummage around the world more intensively in search of prey) and why not fumble, because some tentacles do not chop off (impunity! the main trump card is from here and exorbitant appetite because there are so many possibilities using the main trump card of strength! and the power is idle for free! and the ideology binds hands doesn’t put an army into battle! conclusion or use the ideology for your own purposes, which means LIE and LIE !! and if you don’t help, just throw it in the trash and I’m blaming it on the attack and it’s going to drive! that in principle we are right now and we are witnessing the EMPIRE OF EVIL in action, what can I say!
          5. +2
            27 August 2013 18: 48
            AND YOU ARE A BUSINESSMAN, DADY! YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ALL:
          6. +1
            27 August 2013 19: 19
            Quote: Pimply
            Who will pay for these systems

            Offer to pay later with Russian blood?
            1. +3
              27 August 2013 19: 36
              I’m just against paying with Russian blood. Or do you assume that the entrance to the war in Syria will not be paid for it?
              1. +2
                27 August 2013 19: 50
                Quote: Pimply
                Or do you assume that the entrance to the war in Syria will not be paid for it?

                And where did I say that?
                Respected Pimply , do not
                From a sick head to a healthy one

                It is not regrettable for Russia, but apart from deliveries of equipment, it cannot help Syria now.
                It has already been said, now the main thing _ Will fit Is Iran for Syria!
                hi
                1. 0
                  27 August 2013 19: 56
                  Quote: Cynic
                  It is not regrettable for Russia, but apart from deliveries of equipment, it cannot help Syria now.
                  It has already been said that the main thing now is _ Will Iran fit into Syria!

                  Will fit in. But not directly.
                  1. +2
                    27 August 2013 20: 16
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Will fit in. But not directly.

                    Oh well .
                    Like, it said _ Hold on! Mentally with you?
                    Many aren’t directly, the main thing is that it’s important directly!
                    1. 0
                      27 August 2013 20: 23
                      They are not suicides
                2. +2
                  27 August 2013 22: 11
                  Will Iran fit into Syria? It will fit in! I believe the West will not bomb Syria. This is just a tantrum. They just want to scare Russia for not obeying. lol
          7. 0
            28 August 2013 01: 15
            Quote: Pimply
            Who will pay for these systems - with an almost zero chance of returning the invested?
            if they are effective enough, then future buyers ... Sometimes, to earn more, you need to make a discount ...
        3. mnn_13
          +5
          27 August 2013 19: 03
          Lavrov is an intelligent person and understands that holding the Syrian border at this stage is impossible. Two factors here - geographical - Syria is surrounded by enemies and in a real war the Mediterranean Sea will be only a trap for the Russian fleet. Another factor is that Russia itself is opposed to the United States and NATO without prospects. It is necessary China will suspend small games. What is happening now affects much more China than Russia. The latter, unlike the former, has many natural resources. A close to neutral position of China would not bring him anything good ...
        4. 0
          1 September 2013 15: 24
          Quote: domokl
          That's right. Why fight yourself?
          They themselves will not. Tomahawks and the opposition are so called to them why? The Libyan script will be finalized slightly and the whole business.
      2. +14
        27 August 2013 09: 33
        Quote: Vadivak

        Lavrov: Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013.

        Hi Vadim! You suggest starting a full-scale warrior on the side of Syria, but this is the 3rd world request Dolbanut in Syria and the whole region is burning, the amers will drown there.
        1. +6
          27 August 2013 10: 31
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Hi Vadim! You propose starting a full-fledged warrior on the side of Syria

          Great, Sasha.
          I suggest? Where did you read that? I quoted the opinion of our Foreign Ministry, with which I completely agree, not that country is not even fighting, but making statements.
          Statements about full-scale wars on the side of Syria remained in the distant past, in a country with an independent economy in the era of Leonid Ilyich.
          1. +4
            27 August 2013 10: 37
            Quote: Vadivak
            Full-scale war statements

            Yes, here I am hi
          2. +6
            27 August 2013 11: 37
            Statements about full-scale wars on the side of Syria remained in the distant past, in a country with an independent economy in the era of Leonid Ilyich
            In-in Russia is not a Union to "bang on the table with his fist" (unfortunately wink )
            1. -2
              27 August 2013 12: 28
              Exactly. Pounding is too often very expensive.
              1. +2
                27 August 2013 18: 18
                Quote: Pimply
                Pounding is too often very expensive.

                The question should sound differently: "The man said, the man did"
                If we had not rested then with Cuba, we would not have been respected.
                Like in the 90s ....
                1. -6
                  27 August 2013 18: 22
                  Quote: Pilat2009
                  If we had not rested then with Cuba, we would not have been respected.

                  Remember, I hope that that circus with Cuba almost ended in a nuclear conflict? In which the United States would have an advantage.
                  1. +3
                    27 August 2013 21: 19
                    Quote: Pimply
                    In which the United States would have an advantage.

                    It was a fact! They could destroy us 10 times, and we only 5 of them! lol
                    1. -1
                      27 August 2013 21: 40
                      At the beginning of the 60, the USSR had problems with delivery vehicles. That’s why warheads were placed in Cuba
                      1. +3
                        27 August 2013 22: 31
                        Quote: Pimply
                        At the beginning of the 60, the USSR had problems with delivery vehicles. That’s why warheads were placed in Cuba


                        Yes, and in response to the deployment of missiles in Turkey.
                      2. +1
                        27 August 2013 22: 45
                        You have discovered the secret of the General!
                  2. +3
                    27 August 2013 21: 53
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Remember, I hope that that circus with Cuba almost ended in a nuclear conflict?

                    I repeat once again that sometimes it is necessary to demonstrate iron eggs
                    Outcome-Cuba as it was social and remained, missiles from Turkey withdrawn.
                    Americans also want to live, and it’s good
                    1. -1
                      27 August 2013 22: 31
                      Quote: Pilat2009
                      Outcome-Cuba as it was social and remained, missiles from Turkey withdrawn.
                      Yeah. Recall how much was swollen in it, and that miraculously escaped war. Although in that situation it was true. But I apologize, Russia is not the USSR, and it has other possibilities.
                      1. +1
                        27 August 2013 22: 33
                        Quote: Pimply
                        But I apologize, Russia is not the USSR, and it has other possibilities.


                        Significantly smaller?
                      2. +1
                        27 August 2013 23: 12
                        Quote: studentmati
                        Significantly smaller
                        Absolutely.
          3. Don
            +2
            27 August 2013 14: 00
            Quote: Vadivak
            Statements about full-scale wars on the side of Syria remained in the distant past, in a country with an independent economy in the era of Leonid Ilyich.

            You want to say that the economy of the USSR was completely independent? You're wrong. Not one country in the world completely does not have an independent economy.
            1. +2
              27 August 2013 14: 43
              Quote: Don
              You want to say that the economy of the USSR was completely independent?


              You wishful thinking is reality. If I wrote completely independent, then there would be a discussion
      3. Ruslan_F38
        +8
        27 August 2013 10: 05
        Quote: Vadivak
        Quote: gud123
        The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!!


        Yeah. I quote an opinion

        Lavrov: Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013.


        The whole world understood Lavrov's statement literally in this way - a disgrace! Lavrov needed at least to make it clear that Russia would not surrender Assad, at least to hint. And he was "blown away" in the open.
        1. +11
          27 August 2013 10: 14
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          Lavrov had to at least make it clear that Russia would not surrender Assad, at least hint

          And then, when the US begins to hammer Syria, what should he say? And what will you say, Lavrov is a liar?
          1. Ruslan_F38
            +7
            27 August 2013 10: 20
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            Lavrov had to at least make it clear that Russia would not surrender Assad, at least hint

            And then, when the US begins to hammer Syria, what should he say? And what will you say, Lavrov is a liar?

            I will not, if in addition to Lavrov's words there are deeds of our government. I still believe that it is necessary to intervene, especially since Assad made such a request to the BRICS countries. Our troops there will be the guarantor that the West will not "shoot" at Syria. There will be provocations, but there will be no attack. Lavrov needed to be informed about this, and our troops had to begin the transfer. I think even that was enough to sit down at the negotiating table with the United States and its allies.
            1. +3
              27 August 2013 10: 40
              Quote: Ruslan_F38

              I won’t if besides the words of Lavrov there will be deeds of our government

              Damn, well, the second day I get everyone with similar comments to you — WHAT NOW CAN RUSSIA DO?
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              I still think it’s necessary to intervene,

              Where to Syria, well, we will send a regiment there, well, two. How will these forces interfere?
              1. +6
                27 August 2013 11: 19
                it’s extremely dangerous to send our children there and hope that they will become a shield and guarantor for non-aggression against Syria. On the other hand, if we hypothetically assume that, nevertheless, our troops will be located in Syria and an attack will be committed in their direction, then this can be considered a declaration of war on Russia. This scenario can lead to two options:
                1) our fighters will die from cruise missile attacks, the Russian Federation simply will have no options for how to respond, and then 3 world war.
                2) "friends of Syria" will not dare to go on an adventure and cancel the company, having recouped on comprehensive aid to the rebels.
                I really do not want to get involved in this conflict, but if after all that we have opposed to the Western "arguments", in the event of an attack on Syria by the united coalition, the Russian Federation will remain silent, then they will simply cease to reckon with us. The UN Security Council will finally cease to have the possibility of at least some influence. Any plans in relation to any sovereign country will be resolved within the aggressor countries - we will slide into the Middle Ages.
                Oh, somehow I’m scared, not very calm.
                Still, it is not in vain that the Russian Federation is arming itself to the teeth. But it was correctly said that all this is a training against the Russian Federation. And then what will we do? if such a scenario is implemented against us? let’s not bomb our cities? what then, comrades?
              2. -1
                27 August 2013 11: 35
                Everyone, Sash, believes that to be a superpower is to snap your fingers.
                1. Ruslan_F38
                  +7
                  27 August 2013 15: 01
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Everyone, Sash, believes that to be a superpower is to snap your fingers.


                  Everyone here just believes that it is better to sit out in the bushes, and this is clearly not a sign of the population of the superpower. They just forget - the next after Syria, Iran and Russia. Explain to me, but what do you think Russia should do? To speak in a useless and criminal UN? Threaten with a finger? Well, of course, this is exactly what the enemies of Russia like your beloved Israel would like. What would be more beneficial for the United States, Israel and other criminal countries - of course, that Russia would not fit into this conflict. So do not fool others around your head.
                  1. -1
                    27 August 2013 15: 05
                    Quote: Ruslan_F38
                    Everyone here just believes that it is better to sit out in the bushes, and this is clearly not a sign of the population of the superpower. They just forget - the next after Syria, Iran and Russia. Explain to me, but what do you think Russia should do?

                    First of all, learn to count events, learn to count money, and build a normal economy and army. Less often to say - it has no analogues and get into meaningless messes. And the rest will come.
                    1. +3
                      27 August 2013 19: 31
                      Do you have any experience in governing a country that you are smart here? Meaningless mess ?! And what did the conflict in Lebanon give you in 2006? Have you earned money?
                      Your country has gesheft from the USA and Germany, do you offer Russia to earn the same way ?!
                      1. -5
                        27 August 2013 19: 50
                        Quote: 31231
                        Do you have any experience in governing a country that you are smart here? Meaningless mess ?! And what did the conflict in Lebanon give you in 2006? Have you earned money?
                        Your country has gesheft from the USA and Germany, do you offer Russia to earn the same way ?!

                        My friend. You're bursting with tension right now. 8) Do not make laugh 8)
                      2. +3
                        27 August 2013 21: 03
                        Familiarity ?! Or maybe arrogance ?!
                        I asked simple questions. Maybe you do not want to answer, but why did you get the idea that we are with you ?! And why did you decide that someone you are unfamiliar with is your friend?
                      3. -4
                        27 August 2013 21: 43
                        Quote: 31231
                        Familiarity ?! Or maybe arrogance ?!
                        I asked simple questions. Maybe you do not want to answer, but why did you get the idea that we are with you ?! And why did you decide that someone you are unfamiliar with is your friend?

                        My friend, you did not ask simple questions, you were rude and rocked out. Why would I call a lout on you?
                        Can I ask a simple question - did you stop thirsty in the morning? Answer only yes or no. The question is simple. Carlson invented it.
                      4. +2
                        27 August 2013 22: 11
                        Why then, I'm not surprised by your "are you rude and you stopped drinking in the morning?"

                        Ask the question more specifically, because it simply does not say "what" to drink. And what do you mean by "plump" ?! Or what would be simpler, take a look at how the phrase sounded in the source code?
                      5. -7
                        27 August 2013 22: 33
                        Quote: 31231
                        Ask the question more specifically, because it simply does not say "what" to drink. And what do you mean by "plump" ?! Or what would be simpler, take a look at how the phrase sounded in the source code?

                        I remember the source. But we are not about him. You, my friend, cannot answer a simple question: did you stop thirsty in the morning?
                      6. +3
                        27 August 2013 22: 51
                        Who is a friend? Your dog?! She thumps in the morning ?! What does this look like? otherwise I somehow can’t imagine it.
                      7. -3
                        27 August 2013 23: 13
                        Quote: 31231
                        Who is a friend? Your dog?! She thumps in the morning ?! What does this look like? otherwise I somehow can’t imagine it.

                        Man, well, don’t worry so much.
                      8. 0
                        27 August 2013 23: 36
                        Okay, I’m taking my leave. The discussion was not always substantive, but nevertheless did not slip into the meeting. Good luck communicating with your friend.
                      9. -3
                        27 August 2013 23: 54
                        Quote: 31231
                        Good luck communicating with your friend.

                        My friend, because from the fact that you are trying to talk, your essence does not change;)
              3. +8
                27 August 2013 13: 38
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Where to Syria, well, we will send a regiment there, well, two. How will these forces interfere?

                Unfortunately, you can’t sit out anymore.
                The ax of war was brought not over Syria, but over Russia.
            2. -3
              27 August 2013 11: 34
              Will you volunteer? Or send your son? Will you pay for the operation? Can you imagine how much such a war would cost? Or are you one of those who think that money is paper, and mothers give birth to new sons? Do you want to warm up the Caucasus and finally kill relations with the Sunnis?
              1. +8
                27 August 2013 12: 38
                Quote: Pimply
                Will you pay for the operation?

                It's not about the money, and there is money .if what. Just sending soldiers without logistics support, without support is nonsense. How to send aviation, where to land airplanes, where to replenish ammunition, where to refuel, etc., etc. AWACS is also gone, where and who to shoot. Strategist damn
                1. -8
                  27 August 2013 12: 50
                  Sasha, are you ready to throw a budget on Syria that could go to Russia? Without clear goals?
            3. +11
              27 August 2013 12: 41
              Absolutely true Ruslan. Why can't Syria ask Russia to help? Why can the US help those who execute 450 Kurds?

              3-world is nonsense. There is a check whose eggs are cooler.
              There were Vietnam, Afghanistan, Georgia, and the war remained cold ... There are no crazy people.

              Obama just wants to fix his image domestically. That is his goal.
              1. +6
                27 August 2013 14: 55
                Another option: pressure on Putin, before the G20 Summit, in St. Petersburg.
                Some of the commentators spoke in the spirit: now they will beat us for real. For Russia has proved its worth in the fight against "color revolutions". Jokes, the West is over, there are democratizer rockets.
            4. Luger
              0
              27 August 2013 15: 23
              I agree that the main thing is not words but deeds. We will be silent, but to do our job, everyone will see and understand. Regarding the troops and their expedition to Syria, I do not agree. There is no support system for the troops, and it will not be possible to create, it becomes clear if you look at the world map. Troops can in principle be delivered, but they will be doomed.
          2. Nitup
            +5
            27 August 2013 10: 48
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And then, when the US begins to hammer Syria, what should he say? And what will you say, Lavrov is a liar?

            That's it, and I'm about the same. And then some heroes repeat to me that Lavrov had to hit the table and say that Russia will tear anyone who dares to bomb Syria
        2. smersh70
          -5
          27 August 2013 10: 31
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          Russia will not surrender Assad, at least to hint. And he was "blown away" in the open.



          yesterday in another article, when I wrote that Assad was coming to an end ... 21 patriots gave me a minus wassat I said there that Russia will not fit into this matter, as in Vietnam ..... but they did not believe me ....... well, then, Lavrov obeyed me fellow
          1. +4
            27 August 2013 11: 02
            Quote: smersh70

            yesterday in another article, when I wrote that Assad is coming to an end ..

            Well, the END is still early, Assad has something to answer and blood can spoil a lot. Plus the fact that everything in the Middle is burning.
            1. -9
              27 August 2013 11: 38
              Now, in my opinion, the most likely Kosovo scenario: the partition of the country.
              1. +9
                27 August 2013 12: 40
                Quote: Pimply
                in my opinion, the most probable Kosovo scenario: the partition of the country.

                Zhenya, in my opinion, is the most realistic scenario that the whole of the Near is burning along with Israel and more.
                1. -1
                  27 August 2013 12: 51
                  Sash, the Middle East has been burning for the past several thousand years. War does not stop there.
                  1. +6
                    27 August 2013 15: 11
                    Quote: Pimply
                    The Middle East has blazed over the past few thousand years
                    I am afraid that compared to what may be, now it is smoldering.
                    1. +2
                      27 August 2013 16: 39
                      Oh oh But in 1973 everything could be much more fun.
                      1. +2
                        27 August 2013 17: 52
                        Well, that cost, but whether it will always be lucky.
                  2. 0
                    27 August 2013 18: 59
                    Sash, the Middle East has been burning for the past several thousand years. War does not stop there.

                    Only now terrorists will use chemical weapons.
          2. Nitup
            +4
            27 August 2013 11: 15
            Quote: smersh70
            yesterday in another article, when I wrote that Assad was coming to an end ... the patriots put me 21 minus, I said there that Russia would not fit into this matter, as in Vietnam ..... but they did not believe me ... .... Well, Lavrov obeyed me

            And what, before the war in Vietnam, the USSR declared that he would be at war with the USA?
            1. smersh70
              +3
              27 August 2013 11: 33
              Quote: Nitup
              And what, before the war in Vietnam, the USSR declared that he would be at war with the USA?


              And then the USSR openly advocated Vietnam ... and did not hide its supplies and supplies of the allies under the Warsaw Treaty ..... and yesterday Lavrov openly said that we stand aside ... and as you know, the Foreign Minister for Subordinate to the Constitution of the President of the Country ..... and implements his orders ... so guys, we can argue here for a long time, write down or shame Assad ... the main thing is that the political leadership of Russia has officially stated that it will not interfere in the affairs of Syria .... and without Russia Assad will definitely not be sweet .... well, confronts a year, two, and th .... in the end it will be very hard for him ..... anyway, a kayuk ..... and Iran --- he will politically declare .... but in the end he will not enter into the open - he has his own burden heavy ... nothing to do .... to cover his ass ....
              1. Nitup
                +3
                27 August 2013 11: 44
                Quote: smersh70
                And then the USSR openly advocated Vietnam ... and did not hide its supplies and supplies of the allies under the Warsaw Treaty ..... and yesterday Lavrov openly said that we stand aside ... and as you know, the Foreign Minister for Subordinate to the Constitution of the President of the Country ..... and implements his orders ... so guys, we can argue here for a long time, write down or shame Assad ... the main thing is that the political leadership of Russia has officially stated that it will not interfere in the affairs of Syria .... and without Russia Assad will definitely not be sweet .... well, confronts a year, two, and th .... in the end it will be very hard for him ..... anyway, a kayuk ..... and Iran --- he will politically declare .... but in the end he will not enter into the open - he has his own burden heavy ... nothing to do .... to cover his ass ....

                I do not agree with you. Soviet military experts were secretly in Vietnam. And Russia does not hide its supplies of military equipment to Syria either. Lavrov only stated that Russia would not enter the war openly and that’s all. I think the USSR also did not say that it would openly enter the war with the USA over Vietnam. And did not enter.
              2. -1
                27 August 2013 12: 28
                Russia, too, did not particularly hide that it supports Syria.
                1. +5
                  27 August 2013 12: 41
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Russia, too, did not particularly hide that it supports Syria.

                  International law!
                  1. -3
                    27 August 2013 12: 52
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    International law!

                    There is no such thing. There is no single system of international law.
                  2. smersh70
                    +4
                    27 August 2013 13: 04
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    International law!


                    Well, in words, everything is supported .... as Saakashvili’s GDP said, put all these papers in one place)))) the most important support is military! And if it doesn’t, then there’s nothing and there is no trial)))
                    1. +1
                      27 August 2013 14: 45
                      Quote: smersh70
                      .as Saakashvili’s GDP said, put all these papers in one place))

                      I don’t remember something, remind me when it was
                2. smersh70
                  -3
                  27 August 2013 13: 03
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Russia, too, did not particularly hide that it supports Syria.


                  Until yesterday)))))))))))))
                  1. +1
                    27 August 2013 19: 40
                    And from yesterday what ?! Could you tell?! You are probably a member of the Russian Security Council ?!
                    Do you remember that there are several thousand Russian citizens in Syria?
                    1. +2
                      27 August 2013 19: 51
                      Quote: 31231
                      Do you remember that there are several thousand Russian citizens in Syria?

                      And in Israel there are tens of thousands. But for some reason Russia was in no hurry to attack Lebanon.
                      1. +2
                        27 August 2013 21: 09
                        And what does Israel and Lebanon have to do with it ?! Is it not about Syria and possible NATO aggression against Assad ?! And what, the leadership of the Russian Federation has already laid out all its plans on this issue?
                      2. -2
                        27 August 2013 22: 04
                        Quote: 31231
                        And what does Israel and Lebanon have to do with it ?! Is it not about Syria and possible NATO aggression against Assad ?! And what, the leadership of the Russian Federation has already laid out all its plans on this issue?

                        Well, you're talking about protecting Russian citizens. And if Syria strikes Israel? There are more Russian citizens in Israel.
                      3. +2
                        27 August 2013 22: 55
                        That's when Assad will inflict a bonfire then, while Israel strikes and Russia expresses discontent.
              3. +8
                27 August 2013 15: 01
                Do you seriously think that Lavrov should, like Kukuruznik, mention "Mother Kuzma"?

                08.12.12 "Novocherkassk" and "Saratov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                27.12.12 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                01.01.13 "Novocherkassk" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                09.01.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                09.01.13 "Saratov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                12.01.13 "Novocherkassk" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                14.01.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                17.01.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                2? .01.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                04.02.13 "Azov" and "Saratov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                07.02.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                21.02.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                25.03.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                12.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                14.04.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                ??. 04.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                23.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                30.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                05.05.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                1? .05.13 "Azov", "Alexander Shabalin" and "Kaliningrad" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                19.05.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                ??. 05.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                23.05.13 "Admiral Nevelskoy" and "Relight" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                27.05.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                17.06.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                20.06.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                01.07.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                13.07.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                ??. 07.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                26.07.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                31.07.13 “Minsk” and “Alexander Shabalin” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                ??. 08.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                11.08.13 "Minsk" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                17.08.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
                18.08.13 "Admiral Nevelskoy" and "Relight" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
                20.08.13 "Azov" and "Alexander Shabalin" - to the Mediterranean Sea.


                "The dog barks, the caravan goes."
                1. -1
                  27 August 2013 15: 34
                  This is not a caravan. This tears are coming.
                2. Anti
                  +2
                  27 August 2013 18: 42
                  Quote: dmitreach
                  "The dog barks, the caravan goes."


                  Syrian Express !!! good
              4. +6
                27 August 2013 15: 13
                Quote: smersh70
                and Assad will certainly not be sweet without Russia ...

                Blyin, ashamed of how. recourse
        3. +6
          27 August 2013 11: 47
          The whole world understood Lavrov's statement literally in this way - a disgrace! Lavrov needed at least to make it clear that Russia would not surrender Assad, at least to hint. And he was "blown away" in the open.
          For "the bazaar must be responsible", but it would be a shame to promise, "to tear off the vest" and shout "we will not give up Syria", and as a result, there is nothing to be unable to do. Lavrov is the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and not a “bawler” from the rally.
          1. +6
            27 August 2013 13: 48
            Quote: ksan
            For "the bazaar must be responsible", but it would be a shame to promise, "to tear off the vest" and shout "we will not give up Syria", and as a result, there is nothing to be unable to do. Lavrov is the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and not a “bawler” from the rally.

            It would be necessary to keep silent meaningfully, smiling slyly.
          2. +2
            27 August 2013 15: 42
            And you do not distort! That’s why he is a diplomat, so that after his words it would be unclear what’s on the Russian mind.
            1. Dober
              +1
              27 August 2013 16: 57
              Quote: man
              what would have been nichrome after his words is not clear what the Russians have in mind.

              This is where the "disgrace" lies, which is incomprehensible.
              But it would be different, you look and would be wary of Western politicians like Lavrov, out of habit, "chatting nonsense" on the air. Maybe the voters of those countries would have stopped believing in propaganda and put pressure on their governments.
            2. Dober
              0
              27 August 2013 16: 57
              Quote: man
              what would have been nichrome after his words is not clear what the Russians have in mind.

              This is where the "disgrace" lies, which is incomprehensible.
              But it would be different, you look and would be wary of Western politicians like Lavrov, out of habit, "chatting nonsense" on the air. Maybe the voters of those countries would have stopped believing in propaganda and put pressure on their governments.
            3. +2
              27 August 2013 18: 22
              Quote: man
              That's why he and the diplomat, that after his words it was nichrome not clear

              Negotiations are considered successful when all parties disagree, considering themselves deceived.
        4. Don
          +4
          27 August 2013 14: 03
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          The whole world understood Lavrov's statement literally in this way - a disgrace! Lavrov needed at least to make it clear that Russia would not surrender Assad, at least to hint. And he was "blown away" in the open.

          Yes, look at the full statement of Lavrov, at least for Euronews.
          1. +2
            27 August 2013 21: 16
            I looked at RT. But for some reason, our people still prefer to draw information from Lenta.ru and Ehi Matzo. In general, it is high time the media were fined for distortion and lies. Just the stench of "democratizers" afterwards will not work. Lyosha Analny can be made a dervish for some tales about kickbacks on the ESPO.
        5. +1
          27 August 2013 18: 44
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          Lavrov’s statement is a disgrace!


          unfortunately, Lavrov said only reality. Syria is not a player because of which you can start kirdyk to the whole world. Yes, and GDP also thinks. Otherwise, without the knowledge of the president, the foreign minister would not say that.
        6. +3
          27 August 2013 19: 23
          And what did Vyshinsky and Gromyko say about US intervention in Korea and Vietnam. Diplomats and diplomats for that do not wave open sabers.
      4. 0
        27 August 2013 16: 27
        Quote: Vadivak
        Lavrov: Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013.

        That will be "nix" if the war starts before the opening of the G20 summit in St. Petersburg ... in early September! This will be a slap in the face for us !!!!
        OBAMA will come and together with his "Korefans" from ENGLAND, FRANCE, GERMANY, CANADA and a number of their other satellites will begin to "TREAT" the GDP and together with it the whole RUSSIA from attempts to be independent and try to have their interests further than the territory beyond the Moscow Ring Road ...
        And there will be even more commotion if this invasion begins during this summit. Maybe that's why OBAMA decided to meet Putin in short with PUTIN? Tell how they will drive Syria into the sand after the refusal of the struggle to prevent war in this state from Russia.
        From such a shame, Russia will only have to hide its head behind the baseboard, so as not to look other partners in the eye and like ALITET ... quickly, quickly go to the mountains!
        1. 0
          27 August 2013 23: 33
          Quote: KazaK Bo
          OBAMA will come and together with his "Korefans" from ENGLAND, FRANCE, GERMANY, CANADA and a number of their other satellites will begin to "TREAT" the GDP and together with it the whole RUSSIA from attempts to be independent and try to have their interests further than the territory beyond the Moscow Ring Road ...


          Already tried at the last summit. But then the GDP won the information war, which was noted even by the bourgeois media. And in St. Petersburg he will dunk them in his own derm about.
      5. Anti
        +1
        27 August 2013 19: 39
        Quote: Vadivak
        Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX.


        I love his works !!!

        Not a holiday, not a welcome gift,
        She was preparing a fire
        Impatient hero ..

        AS Pushkin
      6. Yarbay
        +2
        28 August 2013 00: 56
        Quote: Vadivak
        Lavrov: Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013.
    2. +25
      27 August 2013 09: 08
      I thought, it turns out, in the Mediterranean now only 5 of our BDKs are. The main forces of the Black Sea Fleet drove off to Venezuela, Pacific Fleet gather with a trip to Australia ... no brains or what?
      1. +14
        27 August 2013 09: 27
        "The use of chemical weapons is a crime against humanity. If the reports of the use of poisonous substances by Bashar al-Assad's regime are proven, the international community must take action. And Germany will not stand aside," said Guido Westerwelle, German Foreign Minister belay .
        ............ Whose cow would mumble, these words and to the Fuhrer in the ears .... if you had not bent you in due time, you would have mowed half the world
        1. +1
          27 August 2013 16: 17
          Forgot about your "Cyclone".
      2. +8
        27 August 2013 09: 35
        Quote: Karavan
        The main forces of the Black Sea Fleet drove off to Venezuela, Pacific Fleet gather with a trip to Australia ... no brains or what?

        Yes, what can they do really. If we enter a warrior on the side of Syria, then this is already a concrete warrior with all the consequences. Iran is a hope
        1. +3
          27 August 2013 09: 57
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The main forces of the Black Sea Fleet drove off to Venezuela, Pacific Fleet gather with a trip to Australia ... no brains or what?

          Yes, what can they do really. If we enter a warrior on the side of Syria, then this is already a concrete warrior with all the consequences. Iran is a hope

          Well, they can do a lot, 3-4 949 boats and the Projection of force on the USA are provided, the consequences are another matter, but you’re talking about the 3 world, BUT they should understand that if they force us to shoot, armageddon will begin, and they understand this and it’s not in their interests! We urgently need to put as many of our C300 into Syria as possible, maybe we will have time ...

          PS For some reason, it seems to me that the United States will not attack, well, their economy is not in that position to start a new war, and two-thirds of Americans condemn the invasion, so if the Obama rating (So low) falls below the baseboard. In addition, Syria is not Iraq and not Libya, and if they attack, the war will be long and will cost them much more, and they understand this ...
          Another thing is that the G20 Summit is about to begin, and Obama seems to be intent on meeting with the GDP in the "one-on-one" format, and it is quite possible that this is how they are trying to put pressure on the GDP, in general, while it is too early to make assumptions, we must wait for the summit , so it will be possible to draw conclusions based on its results.
          1. +10
            27 August 2013 10: 04
            Quote: 11 black
            We urgently need to put as many of our C300 into Syria as possible, maybe we will have time ...

            Without prepared calculations, the technique is dead.
          2. +9
            27 August 2013 10: 17
            Quote: 11 black
            that’s if Obama’s rating (So low) falls below the baseboard.

            So his rating on the drum. In the United States, presidents are not elected by the people (that's what democracy is !!!), but by a handful of electors with "masters" standing behind them.
            1. -15
              27 August 2013 11: 40
              Electors vote according to the voting results. The time when the elector could vote differently is long gone.
              1. +8
                27 August 2013 11: 49
                Quote: Pimply
                Electors vote according to the voting results.

                Of course!
                Quote: Pimply
                The time when the elector could vote differently is long gone.

                Yes, other times have come, times of great democracy (the rule of the people) and the rule of law. That’s the end of the tale .... and whoever listens and believes, he is blessed.
                1. -12
                  27 August 2013 12: 26
                  Quote: Veter
                  Yes, other times have come, times of great democracy (the rule of the people) and the rule of law. That’s the end of the tale .... and whoever listens and believes, he is blessed.

                  Dear, have you ever held an election, have at least a rough idea of ​​elective technologies and systems of internal balances in the same States? Something is doubtful to me.
              2. +10
                27 August 2013 12: 45
                Pimpled (1) RU Today, 11:40 ↑

                Electors vote according to the voting results. The time when the elector could vote differently is long gone.
                Do you really think so laughing? You do not look like a stupid one, so you are trying to shield the "most democratic democracy", which has long turned into terrorist state
                1. -3
                  27 August 2013 12: 53
                  Quote: ksan
                  Do you really think so? You do not look like a stupid one, so you are trying to shield the "most democratic democracy", which has long turned into a terrorist state

                  No, I know that. Because I am familiar with the electoral process in different countries quite closely, and not only in theory.
                  1. Net
                    Net
                    +3
                    27 August 2013 18: 08
                    So tell us how, in the most "democratic" country, a candidate who gets the fewest votes (not electors) can win.
                    1. -2
                      27 August 2013 18: 14
                      Quote: Netto
                      So tell us how, in the most "democratic" country, a candidate who gets the fewest votes (not electors) can win.


                      Stop, dear, these are already features of the election process, tradition. The elector is officially the representative of voters, and may only vote as representatives of the constituency vote. Somewhere there is a percentage barrier. Would you consider him unfair too? In some countries, a limited number of parties can go to parliament.
                    2. 0
                      28 August 2013 04: 58
                      Quote: Netto
                      So tell us how so in the most & ay; democratic & ay; the country can win the candidate with the fewer votes (not electors).

                      Learn the materiel, or at least the story. So, in particular, Bush Jr. won in 2000.
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000
                      And this was the fourth case in history when a candidate who gained more votes nonetheless lost the election, and note, in a completely legal way.
          3. +6
            27 August 2013 10: 18
            Quote: 11 black
            Well, they can do a lot, 3-4 boats 949a

            Boats are good, but the amers understand that this is a bluff. Ours will not really beat, if they start, it means a warrior.
            Quote: 11 black
            , BUT after all, they should also understand that if our forces are forced to shoot, armageddon will begin, and they understand this and it is not in their interests

            They understand this, and we understand it, or do you think that armageddon is in our interests?
            Quote: 11 black
            We urgently need to put as many of our C300 into Syria as possible
            And who will manage them?
            Quote: 11 black
            PS For some reason, it seems to me that the United States will not attack, well, their economy is not in that position to start a new war,

            Paper roll, still print. War at all times has been the engine of the economy
            1. +6
              27 August 2013 11: 36
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Odki is good, but the amers understand that this is a bluff. Ours really will not beat, if they start, it means a warrior.

              They will not be completely sure that they will not - we understand that Syria, Iran and then Russia, they also understand it (I myself think that they will not, but I did not speak about the strike, but about the PROJECTION OF FORCE, although we would win a couple of weeks for Assad)
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              We urgently need to put as many of our C300 into Syria as possible
              And who will manage them?

              but as they did in Korea - ours in the form of SSA and forth

              Of course, this is unlikely to change the outcome of the campaign, but they will pay the real price.

              PS dear Romanov - here you are all talking about the inadmissibility of the 3 world - I agree, but you understand that Syria, Iran are then Russia, which means that the longer we delay the fall of Syria and Iran (ideally, of course, these regimes would be saved), the more we have time for rearmament of the army, and by the inaction and surrender of the allies we will not cancel the world’s 3, but only delay it for a short while. Therefore, you need to take decisive measures and not be afraid, there is nothing to lose in the long run - by 5 years earlier by 5 years later, but this gives a chance to be able to re-equip our army, and they will not trample on a well-armed army IMHO hi
              1. -2
                27 August 2013 12: 29
                Quote: 11 black
                but as they did in Korea - ours in the form of SSA and forth

                Will you dress in uniform - to fight in a foreign war?
                1. +7
                  27 August 2013 16: 34
                  I will defend my homeland in any form! If they say it now, I’ll go with my saiga in civilian life! And the war for some reason all the time at our borders!
                  1. +1
                    27 August 2013 16: 41
                    Quote: vostok68
                    And the war for some reason all the time at our borders!

                    Why only at the borders. She's inside. Put on your uniform, take it to Ingushetia and Dagestan. The country needs contractors.
                    1. +9
                      27 August 2013 17: 06
                      I’ve been there more than once, but what are you doing?
                    2. +2
                      27 August 2013 17: 57
                      Well, tell me, where did you put on your uniforms, do you have something at the NVP in Israel?
                      1. -6
                        27 August 2013 18: 02
                        My friend, should I really report to you - where am I and what I did? At the forum, people I respect respect know. And before you prove something, tell me - do not make me laugh. It bears you now, like a train on a slope. So go fly 8)
                      2. +2
                        27 August 2013 18: 39
                        nothing to say?
                      3. 0
                        27 August 2013 18: 44
                        Quote: vostok68
                        nothing to say?

                        My friend, what can I tell you? You are a nervous and aggressive boor, who believes that everything in this life decides the pressure. Not able to calculate the consequences.
                        I don't care what you count. I am not five years old to prove something in the sandbox, and to convince fools. I do not need it. What was needed, I once proved. You're so funny puffing up trying to hurt me.
                      4. +5
                        27 August 2013 19: 19
                        I'm not a friend of you, I really was rude to you, I apologize, I could not restrain myself, I do not always understand the person I’m talking to, I couldn’t understand you, I apologize again
                      5. +4
                        27 August 2013 19: 41
                        Quote: vostok68
                        I don't ... I really ...

                        Hmm.
                        Sorry vostok68 that I interfere, but, for the future, do not succumb in the future to provocations!
                        You are welcome !
                        Respected Pimply elementary you divorced to insult, to carefully move off the topic
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Put on your uniform, take it to Ingushetia and Dagestan.

                        when sounded
                        Quote: vostok68
                        I have been there more than once

                        Sami analyze how in a losing situation for himself, he made you even apologize!
                        drinks
                      6. +3
                        27 August 2013 20: 44
                        drinks I do not want to leave garbage on the forum, let there be world peace, even if I lose something!
                      7. -1
                        27 August 2013 19: 44
                        Quote: vostok68
                        I'm not a friend of you, I really was rude to you, I apologize, I could not restrain myself, I do not always understand the person I’m talking to, I couldn’t understand you, I apologize again

                        Then we leave this circus.
                        I served three years, I know the Middle East (and not only him) quite well, I work with large volumes of information regularly, and analytics is one of my incomes.
                        Joining the war in Syria for Russia now, with its not very stable economy, tied to export - is insane. In order to play such games, one must have clear goals, an understanding of one’s own benefits, and a serious (or simply prohibitively rich in money) economy. The entry of troops into Syria is a conflict with Europe, Turkey, Arabs and the United States, if not real, then political. There are not so many benefits in fact, but there is a huge amount of potential for crap and spilled blood of fighters.
                      8. +1
                        27 August 2013 19: 32
                        But really, you didn’t say anything, only general phrases, though I’m not better, I practically didn’t write anything on the case either
                      9. 0
                        27 August 2013 19: 54
                        Quote: vostok68
                        But really, you didn’t say anything, only general phrases, though I’m not better, I practically didn’t write anything on the case either

                        When a person speaks about a case, I turn to him respectfully and concretely.
                        Russia does not have a coherent policy, at the moment (and under the USSR) it consists in annoying the United States, and more recently, in attempts to maintain its former position. And this is not true. Russia too often puts all its eggs in one basket, and even pays for it
                      10. -1
                        27 August 2013 20: 52
                        Yes, there is a grain of truth in this, I can’t judge completely objectively, but I see that we are being surrounded on all sides and are making claims to us! It seems that this will end only after the war, I understand that this is paranoia, but the facts are striking! Maybe this is my subjective vision of the World!
                      11. +1
                        27 August 2013 21: 25
                        Quote: vostok68
                        and, there is some truth in this, I can’t judge completely objectively, but I see that we are being surrounded from all sides and are making claims to us! It seems that this will end only after the war, I understand that this is paranoia, but the facts are striking!

                        Europeans are reducing their armies, the US is withdrawing bases from Europe. Who Worth Fearing - China
                    3. +1
                      27 August 2013 19: 49
                      But you can’t tell me what's in Dagestan and Ingushetia ?! And then a couple of years ago I was in Makhachkala and could not see anything, the acre of their brandy.
                      1. -1
                        27 August 2013 19: 57
                        Quote: 31231
                        But you can’t tell me what's in Dagestan and Ingushetia ?! And then a couple of years ago I was in Makhachkala and could not see anything, the acre of their brandy.

                        That's just my friend going there on business trips.
                      2. +5
                        27 August 2013 21: 31
                        AND?! Will you tell me now how in that joke "How Moisha Chaliapin sang"?
                        Do you have the fact that Hamas and Hezbollah do not create problems?
                        I’ll just tell you that radicalism in Islam is primarily caused by the lack of education of some believers. And how many Jews you are and we didn’t bomb the Russians and didn’t shoot the militants. Saudi and Qatar zombie machine does not jellied money. And the US authorities, destroying totalitarian regimes, only produce them.
                      3. +1
                        27 August 2013 22: 56
                        Quote: 31231
                        I’ll just tell you that radicalism in Islam is primarily caused by the lack of education of some believers. And how many Jews you are and we didn’t bomb the Russians and didn’t shoot the militants. Saudi and Qatar zombie machine does not jellied money. And the US authorities are destroying totalitarian regimes,

                        Let’s do this - we’ll switch to some more reasonable mode of communication, without personal attacks, but we will really discuss the situation.

                        The radicalism in Islam is caused by several factors. Poor education is just one of them. It is also a traditional wave: a departure from traditions, a return to them. Poverty and severity of regimes. There is a specific request for something else. Radicalism has always been attractive. States have lately followed trends rather than creating them.
                      4. +1
                        28 August 2013 09: 51
                        Syrian authorities gave data on the killed mercenaries. The bulk of the citizens of Iraq, a large number from Libya. Strong state power in these states was destroyed as a result of the marginalization of society. Turkey is a Muslim country, Azerbaijan, Algeria. Why are there few or no thugs in Syria from these countries?
              2. -1
                27 August 2013 12: 48
                Quote: 11 black
                They will not be completely sure that they will not

                You amers really think of idiots?
                Quote: 11 black
                , at least we’ll win a couple of weeks for Assad)

                2.5 years is aggression against Syria, what will change in 2 weeks?
                Quote: 11 black
                but as they did in Korea - ours in the form of SSA and forth

                I propose that you be the first to send you under the attacks of the Tamahawks. Although I partially understand, apparently there are no specialists from CX00 among your relatives, and someone else's grief is someone else's grief. Send your brother or son.
                Quote: 11 black

                Of course, this is unlikely to change the outcome of the campaign, but they will pay the real price.

                And for the price we pay, we don't give a damn that the lives of our soldiers are behind the price.
                Damn, when did 1 of September, so that schoolchildren would dump from Sait

                Quote: 11 black
                Therefore, you need to take decisive measures and not be afraid, there is nothing to lose by and large - 5 years earlier, 5 years later,

                I have something to lose, my son is still small.
                1. +10
                  27 August 2013 13: 48
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  but as they did in Korea - ours in the form of SSA and forth

                  I propose that you be the first to send you under the attacks of the Tamahawks. Although I partially understand, apparently there are no specialists from CX00 among your relatives, and someone else's grief is someone else's grief. Send your brother or son.

                  Okay, if we argue according to your "logic", so let's just forget everything and wait for the Naglo-Saxons with open arms, when they come, they will definitely not pity me or you, and grief will be for all of us
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  And for the price we pay, we don't give a damn that the lives of our soldiers are behind the price.
                  Damn, when did 1 of September, so that schoolchildren would dump from Sait

                  well, firstly, I have 1 completed technical tower, I am finishing the second humanitarian one, I'm talking about September 1, and the better we arm ourselves by the time the "guests" arrive, the fewer our soldiers will lie in that real bloody mix, if we arm ourselves well then maybe they generally will forget about the attempt on us, so take into account the hundreds of thousands of those saved ... The USSR understood that it was its turn for Korea and Iraq, therefore it sent troops to help, but they did not fight for them, FOR THEMSELVES, FOR THE HOMELAND so that a war against US does not happen.
                  Don't you understand that the WAR AGAINST US IS ALREADY GOING, only the front is still far from our borders, everything must be done so that it stays there and doesn’t come to us!
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Therefore, you need to take decisive measures and not be afraid, there is nothing to lose by and large - 5 years earlier, 5 years later,

                  I have something to lose, my son is still small.

                  I understand you, so protect his future, agree better to ensure that no one attacks Russia and provide children with peace without war, imagine that after 5 - 10 years you will leave to fight, leaving your wife and son at home, and whether or not to return is a big question , I understand that this sounds cynical and did not want to offend or insult anyone, but I need to do everything to prevent this from happening, I need to win as much time as possible to rearm the army, and I would like it to be possible without our losses ...
                  1. +5
                    27 August 2013 13: 55
                    Quote: 11 black
                    imagine that after 5 - 10 years you will leave to fight leaving your wife and son at home

                    he will not go. he’ll go to the bottom or with a little pimply run away into the camp of the enemy, serve as footmen. If they are taken of course.
                    1. -6
                      27 August 2013 14: 05
                      So you did not answer. Are you going to fight?
                      1. +8
                        27 August 2013 16: 37
                        You are not a good person (you have such an avatar) ask me, I went and will go!
                      2. -7
                        27 August 2013 16: 59
                        Quote: vostok68
                        You are not a good person (you have such an avatar) ask me, I went and will go!

                        So go ahead. What stops you. Take a sip of reality.
                      3. +6
                        27 August 2013 17: 14
                        Nothing stopped me, but did you take a sip of reality? or read books on the couch and found some clever thoughts there?
                      4. -8
                        27 August 2013 17: 28
                        Quote: vostok68
                        Nothing stopped me, but did you take a sip of reality? or read books on the couch and found some clever thoughts there?

                        Usually people fall into such tantrums, who didn’t smell gunpowder, forgive me. Why are you still here? You kind of have to run to fight.
                      5. +7
                        27 August 2013 18: 01
                        Don’t be afraid of me, the child’s sailor will not offend! I just chat with worthy people here! Do not be offended, I did not know that you were a nerd!
                      6. -8
                        27 August 2013 18: 10
                        Quote: vostok68
                        Don’t be afraid of me, the child’s sailor will not offend! I just chat with worthy people here! Do not be offended, I did not know that you were a nerd!

                        Oh, laughs 8)) Touche, I fell - he called me a nerd. I'm going to die with grief. Tell me, can you also gypsy? 8)
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                      8. -2
                        27 August 2013 20: 25
                        Quote: Dober
                        ANAL.NOUTIK in one word ...

                        Cool. And some other "pearl";)
                      9. Dober
                        +3
                        27 August 2013 20: 58
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Cool.

                        Danke ... hi
                        And some other "pearl";

                        For "pearls" to the namesake Petrosyan. I have dosed. For some, the "indignant mind" may not be able to withstand all that is desired to be expressed. Need an overdose? No.
                      10. -3
                        27 August 2013 22: 18
                        Quote: Dober
                        For "pearls" to the namesake Petrosyan. I have dosed. For some, the "indignant mind" may not be able to withstand all that is desired to be expressed. Need an overdose? No.

                        Oh, do not make laugh. You and moderation? 8)
                  2. -1
                    27 August 2013 14: 10
                    Quote: 11 black
                    I understand you, so protect his future,

                    I will give orders, but I’m not going to ruffle in the empty and organize victorious keyboard marches. You are not the president and do not decide anything. Therefore, do not write nonsense.
                    1. +4
                      27 August 2013 14: 26
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      I understand you, so protect his future,

                      I will give orders, but I’m not going to ruffle in the empty and organize victorious keyboard marches. You are not the president and do not decide anything. Therefore, do not write nonsense.

                      Yes, I’m just expressing my opinion on this issue, just like you, by the way, although you are not the Minister of Defense, but you can’t count your posts, and in my opinion there is nothing there, but let's refrain from insulting each other’s opinions.
                      You minus only for an undeserved insult to opinion.
                      1. +3
                        27 August 2013 14: 42
                        Quote: 11 black
                        Yes, I just express my opinion on this issue, as you, by the way,

                        Well, yes, I do not agree with yours.
                        Quote: 11 black
                        You minus only for an undeserved insult to opinion.

                        Come on, you are not putting the first minus to me, and I’m giving you, so we won’t. Delivered and delivered hi
                2. +4
                  27 August 2013 14: 01
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Damn, when did 1 of September, so that schoolchildren would dump from Sait

                  So your pimply friend will leave, how would you be without him on the site?
                  1. +12
                    27 August 2013 14: 09
                    And we will write on perm

                    Dear, let's return to the mainstream of the discussion, stop mutual silly insults.
                    1. +4
                      27 August 2013 18: 32
                      Quote: Spade
                      And we will write on perm

                      Chalk ...
                      On a board or on a fence ...
                      You know what ... laughing
                3. -1
                  27 August 2013 18: 56
                  to my great happiness, a couple of days are left until September 1))
              3. +2
                27 August 2013 14: 17
                Quote: 11 black
                but as they did in Korea - ours in the form of SSA and forth

                We have no unnecessary prepared calculations.
              4. +1
                27 August 2013 16: 32
                according to a statement by former US President Bush 3, World War I began in the 90s !!!
          4. +15
            27 August 2013 11: 37
            PS For some reason, it seems to me that the United States will not attack, well, their economy is not in that position to start a new war, and two-thirds of Americans condemn the invasion, so if the Obama rating (So low) falls below the baseboard.

            I ask you .... if the amers spit openly on international law and on the UN Security Council, then they will not react to their people - vegetables at all.
            Amer in 2003 spat on the VETO not only of the Russian Federation, but also of France from Germany. Those were against the war in Iraq. And what happened in the end? And now the jackals are all assembled and all united by one goal: to shed blood in Syria.

            Obama does not solve anything ... practically nothing. Of course, he can make a strong-willed decision and cancel everything, but then his rating will fall even lower. He will lose the support of influential lobbies. Elections in the states are fiction. And in general, in principle, it’s convenient to hang all the dogs on Obama. For this, the President of the United States of America is needed to leave true strategists in the background.

            In addition, Syria is not Iraq and not Libya, and if they attack, the war will be long and will cost them much more, and they understand this ...

            the same thing was said about Iraq. For information, he possessed the 5th army (!) On the planet in numbers. And where was this army when the rockets flew? They bought the top, the soldiers were left without command and simply disappeared into the crowd.
            Only a coalition from China and the Russian Federation can really affect the situation. And in no case not by military method, otherwise there may be a kapets. It is just necessary to take political measures in relation to the aggressor countries. Ultimately, economic sanctions. Nevertheless, Europe will be sooooooooooooobb if suddenly gas prices rise a couple of times or even block the gas. China has even greater potential. Present all this in a closed meeting, make it clear that we do not want war and intend to achieve our goals, but with relatively civilizational methods.

            If Iran gets involved (which most likely will be), it will only play into the hands of the West. Two birds with one stone. It goes without saying that the "jackals" will not just get rid of the resistance, but over time they will achieve their goal. It’s not easy for Iran now, the sanctions are stifling its economy, and in case of war there will be a blockade.

            P.S. In general, there are options, but not all of them are acceptable to us.
            I have only one sore point: the extremely miserable Syrian people. I would like it to be simply not affected. Let politicians, tyrants, impressive shadow lobbies, ruling shadow governments gnaw their throats at one another, but the people suffer all this, die from their decisions.
            When I see graffiti through the media, it’s just hard to hold back tears.

            As Gaddaffi said: "where is that Russia, which has always protected the weak" - this is not a quote, but the meaning is correct.
            Where is that Russia and what should she do at such a difficult time ???????? request
            1. +5
              27 August 2013 13: 59
              Quote: silver_roman
              Of course, he can make a strong-willed decision and cancel everything, but then his rating will fall even lower. He will lose the support of influential lobbies.

              I think in this case, Obama is waiting for the fate of Kennedy.
              1. -2
                28 August 2013 05: 46
                Quote: Ustas
                I think in this case, Obama is waiting for the fate of Kennedy.

                First, Obama, unlike Kennedy, does not drive in open cars, and what he drives in is not that of a regular sniper, you won’t take him from PTR.
                Secondly, regardless of Syria, there are a bunch of other reasons why Obama might want to spank, in particular Obamacare.
                Thirdly, I think that out of 10 Americans, 9 did not hear about Syria, and of those who heard 9 out of 10 would not find it on the map. This is the question of rating. Now, if because of Syria or what else gasoline prices will jump, it will still affect the rating.
                And in general, I do not want to be slapped, because then they will make an icon of liberalism out of him, and the next shit will win the shit, even if they put forward an obvious down. Better he quietly end his term and go down in history.
        2. +23
          27 August 2013 10: 05
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Yes, what can they do really. If we enter a warrior on the side of Syria, then this is already a concrete warrior with all the consequences. Iran is a hope


          Listen, Romanov, are you tired of whining about the fear of World War II in every topic about Syria?

          Only our decisive actions will prevent the beginning of the Great War, while our inaction will only delay it.
          1. Guun
            +10
            27 August 2013 10: 15
            How do you see this if the Russian Federation sends troops there? The influx of terrorists and mercenaries into Syria will flood at times - they say the Russians came to the aid of dictator Assad from dictator V.V. Putin and help is needed - there will be a sea of ​​blood both of them and ours. This is half the trouble, they will remove the blockbuster where the army of dictators destroys civilians and noise around the world. In fact, we’ll get stuck there and the war will never end there. Plus, sabotage from the West in the Caucasus is ensured, the activation of 5 columns under the slogan OUR CHILDREN DIE! WHY WE ARE A FOREIGN WAR AND many many other delights. And this is just the beginning.
            1. +5
              27 August 2013 10: 21
              Quote: Guun
              How do you see this if the Russian Federation sends troops there?

              So far, only a presence in the ter. waters.
              Quote: Guun
              The influx of terrorists and mercenaries into Syria will flood at times

              What prevented to flood earlier? Lack of Russians? Hm ...
              Quote: Guun
              And this is just the beginning

              The end we may not see
              1. Guun
                +3
                27 August 2013 11: 05
                Quote: Veter
                What prevented to flood earlier? Lack of Russians? Hm ...

                You don’t understand, the West will make such propaganda in the Middle East that it will be too late. I guarantee you that if Russian troops arrive there, the flow of rebel manpower will increase significantly.
                1. Dober
                  +1
                  27 August 2013 19: 57
                  Quote: Guun
                  if Russian troops arrive there, the flow of rebel manpower will increase significantly.

                  And if, under the pretext of protecting complexes, it is just to close the borders. (not so long) and airspace from the airfields of Iran.
                  From where all these scumbags penetrate into Syria. And it’s not necessary to participate in street battles. There, the Syrians will cope.
                  Of course, only specialists should fight. For social guarantees from Russia (in the case of something ...).
                  I see, it looks like a utopia. But it's worth trying. They offered their presence in the Golan, the Jews cried out first, did not put the squeeze on - "cut the back. The logical result is that the world's bloodsuckers have sensed weakness and are preparing to sip a full cup of blood.
                  But it will be so. And Lavrov only indirectly confirmed this ...
                  Well, it’s shameful and disgusting for the Russian rulers. Almost everyone admits that Russia is next in line, but it’s like we can’t do anything ...
                  Ugh ...
          2. Ruslan_F38
            +5
            27 August 2013 10: 15
            Quote: Veter
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, what can they do really. If we enter a warrior on the side of Syria, then this is already a concrete warrior with all the consequences. Iran is a hope


            Listen, Romanov, are you tired of whining about the fear of World War II in every topic about Syria?

            Only our decisive actions will prevent the beginning of the Great War, while our inaction will only delay it.


            As for whining, I do not agree with you; nobody needs a world war.
            But that only decisive actions by Russia can prevent the massacre - I agree one hundred percent. Only now Lavrov, with his statements and idle chatter, has already "lowered" Russia below the plinth. And no one will fight with Russia if it really stands up for Syria, and not just in words.
            1. +4
              27 August 2013 12: 39

              As for whining, I do not agree with you; nobody needs a world war.
              But that only decisive actions by Russia can prevent the massacre - I agree one hundred percent. Only now Lavrov, with his statements and idle chatter, has already "lowered" Russia below the plinth. And no one will fight with Russia if it really stands up for Syria, and not just in words
              If Lavrov, in your opinion, "lowered Russia", what do you think he should have done? To declare that Russia will enter the war on the side of Syria? And get into another "Afghan"? This is not a "small victorious war" like Abkhazia and Ossetia. In a day the whole world will howl about the "bloody dictator Putin" who is destroying the "freedom-loving" Syrians, and in a week the whole of Russia will howl "for what our guys are dying in Syria." And if, in fact, Russia is already helping Syria with weapons, and I think it will continue to help EVERYONE to the best of its ability. Syria cannot be defeated by air strikes (even if they are). A ground operation is needed for anyone, but here it is not Amers their allies will not climb. And Iran has a chance, without violating any international norms and agreements, to openly enter the war in Syria (they have a treaty on protection from external aggression) So a strike on Syria is not yet a fact of whose victory will lead.
          3. +8
            27 August 2013 10: 20
            Quote: Veter
            Listen, Romanov, you’re not tired of whining in every topic about Syria

            Whine? And you follow the bazaar, I’m talking to you within the framework, and here you are staying in them !!!
            Quote: Veter

            Only our decisive action will prevent the outbreak of the Great War

            WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING
            1. Ruslan_F38
              +5
              27 August 2013 10: 22
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING


              I answered you above. And one more thing: at least Lavrov didn’t have to say that Russia would not fight because of Syria, let the whole world wonder and think, what if Russia really enters the war - and you see, this is a strong deterrent for NATO, isn’t it? Think a hundred times before attacking.
              Lavrov had to be told that Russia would give an adequate answer, not excluding military intervention - the United States and their dogs would be in a stupor for any and will think a thousand times before bombing.
              1. +1
                27 August 2013 11: 04
                Quote: Ruslan_F38
                . And no one will fight with Russia if it really stands up for Syria, and not just in words.

                This? Then it's a warrior!
                1. Ruslan_F38
                  +8
                  27 August 2013 14: 42
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  . And no one will fight with Russia if it really stands up for Syria, and not just in words.

                  This? Then it's a warrior!


                  No need to juggle Alexander. It seems that most of the welcomers simply pull phrases out of context and do not delve into what I am writing about in general. If only to "talk it over". Why is the war Alexander? I have not heard more than one worthy, weighty and most important thing that refutes my arguments. argument to my proposal In Kosovo, someone started a war with us? Now we are many times stronger.

                  I repeat for those who don’t hear or don’t want to hear: at least Lavrov didn’t have to say that Russia would not fight because of Syria, let the whole world wonder and think, and if Russia really enters the war - and you must admit it is a strong deterrent factor for nato, isn't it? Think a hundred times before attacking.
                  Lavrov needed to be told that Russia would give an adequate answer, not excluding military intervention - the United States and their dogs would be in a stupor for anyone and would think a thousand times before bombing. This is the first thing. And where is the "smell of the third world?"
                  I still believe that it is necessary to intervene, especially since Assad made such a request to the BRICS countries. Our troops there will be the guarantor that the West will not "shoot" at Syria. There will be provocations, but there will be no attack. Lavrov needed to be informed about this, and our troops had to begin the transfer. I think even that was enough to sit down at the negotiating table with the United States and its allies. This is the second. And again I ask, where is the third world war? Why will amers shoot at us? No need to keep them for complete idiots who will fight with us. "
                  1. +2
                    27 August 2013 14: 56
                    Ruslan_F38
                    Bravo!!!!! From Kosovo to the point !!!
              2. shpuntik
                +1
                27 August 2013 13: 25
                Ruslan_F38 (1) RU Today, 10:22 ↑ New
                And one more thing: at least Lavrov didn’t have to say that Russia would not fight because of Syria, let the whole world wonder and think, what if Russia really enters the war - and you see, this is a strong deterrent for NATO, isn’t it?

                Ruslan, are we sure that we will be the first to know about the intentions of the Kremlin from TV?
                Vague doubts gnaw me that NATO knows what Lavrov will say, much earlier than you and me.
            2. +4
              27 August 2013 10: 29
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Whine?

              YES!
              Even in this thread 3 times
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING

              Read the posts. And other users

              Reminiscent of alarmists during the Second World War.
              1. +2
                27 August 2013 11: 06
                Quote: Veter
                Reminiscent of alarmists during the Second World War.

                You remind me of doctrine 41 with a bayonet and a grenade and on foreign territory.
                1. +5
                  27 August 2013 11: 26
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  You remind me of doctrine 41 with a bayonet and a grenade and on foreign territory.


                  Dashing trouble began, and then was the 45th
                  1. -14
                    27 August 2013 12: 30
                    Yeah. For the 45th alone, 28 million people died, the country was destroyed, and the USSR had support from several countries.
                  2. -4
                    27 August 2013 12: 51
                    Quote: Veter
                    and then there was the 45th

                    AI with it 28 million dead and a destroyed country. Go fight yourself and send others to death.
                    1. +6
                      27 August 2013 13: 45
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      AI with it 28 million dead and a destroyed country.

                      Did you have to give up? So that all 200 million people go to ashes?
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Go fight yourself and send others to death.

                      Such as you send. If you run, it’s only with a white flag towards.
                      1. +9
                        27 August 2013 13: 54
                        Quote: Veter
                        Such as you send. If you run, it’s only with a white flag towards.

                        Such as we do not send, such as we do not run either from the enemy or to him, such as we just know that war is work. Which I do not really want to do. But sometimes it is necessary.

                        So do not need this strain, and your slogans
                      2. +8
                        27 August 2013 14: 27
                        Quote: Spade
                        Such as we do not send, such as we do not run either from the enemy or to him, such as we just know that war is work. Which I do not really want to do. But sometimes it is necessary.

                        I admit that you served or serve and there are no questions for you.
                        And if you mean Romanov under the phrase "people like us", then "war-work" is not for him.
                      3. -5
                        27 August 2013 17: 26
                        Quote: Veter
                        Did you have to give up? So that all 200 million people go to ashes?

                        Do not confuse that war with this one.
              2. -8
                27 August 2013 11: 44
                Quote: Veter


                Reminiscent of alarmists during the Second World War.

                Tell me, my friend. And who will go to war? You?
                1. +11
                  27 August 2013 11: 55
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Tell me, my friend.

                  A friend in your pants, dear.

                  All those who appeal with the words "Who will go to fight? You?" in the event of a full-scale war, they will either surrender or shoot themselves. You tell the boys this phrase, who in South Ossetia pounded the Georgians in the face.
                  1. -12
                    27 August 2013 12: 27
                    Quote: Veter
                    You tell this phrase to the guys who in South Ossetia pounded Georgians in the face.

                    That is, the boys will go to war, and not you, I understand correctly?
                    1. xan
                      +11
                      27 August 2013 12: 48
                      Quote: Pimply
                      That is, the boys will go to war, and not you, I understand correctly?

                      understand correctly, Israeli, when you stop asking such questions
                      1. +2
                        27 August 2013 12: 56
                        An Israeli has more chances to be hit by bullets than you, so let's be mutually polite.
                      2. -5
                        27 August 2013 13: 10
                        Quote: xan
                        understand correctly, Israeli, when you stop asking such questions

                        Well then call me a Russian and Russian, I have Russian citizenship and I live in Russia now. By the way, did we swell somewhere and switched to you? Or a question was asked of you. Stop, will you put on a uniform and go to war? It is strange that I see you all only in the forum, and not in Syria.
                      3. xan
                        +4
                        27 August 2013 16: 36
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Stop, will you put on a uniform and go to war?

                        Are you scaring me, eagle?
                        I see pride in you, since you fought, only you can talk about war. Did you, an Israeli, take part in stabbing, or do you know how to drive an Arabs in a tank, a warrior?
                      4. -4
                        27 August 2013 17: 02
                        Quote: xan

                        Are you scaring me, eagle?
                        I see pride in you, since you fought, only you can talk about war. Did you, an Israeli, take part in stabbing, or do you know how to drive an Arabs in a tank, a warrior?

                        Cheburashkl and I, who are looking for friends, want to serve in artillery, right, my friend? ;)

                        Oh, he threw it out, expressed it, angrily waved his fist 8) Bravo!

                        And now the question is - will you shed blood in Syria?
                      5. Dober
                        +4
                        27 August 2013 20: 37
                        Quote: Pimply
                        And now the question is - will you shed blood in Syria?

                        I have already said that I lived for some time among YOURS and adopted something from them.
                        Now the question is, "Will you shed blood in Syria?" Of course for Israel. And in Libya, Egypt or the Gaza Strip?
                        If so, when will this happen and will we see the "heroic bubblegum" in frontline reports?

                        In short, stop making faces and pester people.
                      6. -2
                        27 August 2013 20: 44
                        Quote: Dober
                        Now the question is, "Will you shed blood in Syria?" Of course for Israel. And in Libya, Egypt or the Gaza Strip?
                        If so, when will this happen and will we see the "heroic bubblegum" in frontline reports?

                        With what aplomb everything is, bravo! YOURS - expressed all contempt. I’ve been faked - a carcass. Immediately fall and scream - did he kill me? 8)
                      7. Dober
                        +2
                        27 August 2013 21: 58
                        Quote: Pimply
                        expressed all contempt.

                        Contempt? No ... It still needs to be earned.
                        Well, do cockroaches deserve contempt, for example? Or pubic lice?
                        Disgust, disdain and necessarily "class struggle", but not contempt.
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Immediately fall and scream - did he kill me?

                        Not necessary at all. Firstly, there will be no fee for the performance, only applause. And secondly, this "exercise" will not be the last, will it?
                        Or will it be?
                      8. 0
                        27 August 2013 22: 03
                        Quote: Dober
                        And secondly, this "exercise" will not be the last, will it?
                        Or will it be?


                        I’m looking at you the flags of the host country often change, why would it ?!
                      9. 0
                        27 August 2013 22: 10
                        Quote: Apollon
                        I’m looking at you the flags of the host country often change, why would it ?!


                        Can a collaborator?
                      10. -1
                        27 August 2013 22: 58
                        It is to rain. Hiding from OUR 8)))
                      11. Dober
                        +3
                        27 August 2013 23: 19
                        Recent German. And this is true. Prior to this, he left either from the airport or from the Hanover railway station via Wi-Fi. And there are clouds of providers.
                        I'll be home in an hour. And the "flag" should appear "native tricolor", because the USB-modem will stick in Megaphone.
                        Just business ... No conspiracy. I didn't blow up Munich Athletes
                        Why the hell am I ...
                      12. xan
                        -1
                        28 August 2013 10: 45
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Quote: xan

                        Are you scaring me, eagle?
                        I see pride in you, since you fought, only you can talk about war. Did you, an Israeli, take part in stabbing, or do you know how to drive an Arabs in a tank, a warrior?

                        Cheburashkl and I, who are looking for friends, want to serve in artillery, right, my friend? ;)

                        Oh, he threw it out, expressed it, angrily waved his fist 8) Bravo!

                        And now the question is - will you shed blood in Syria?

                        well, pimpled, what kind of warrior do you personally already understand
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                    2. +3
                      27 August 2013 13: 37
                      Quote: Pimply
                      I understand correctly?

                      Нет!
                      And you won’t understand!
                      1. -4
                        27 August 2013 13: 43
                        Quote: Veter
                        Нет!
                        And you won’t understand!

                        Well, why I do not understand. I fought. I asked you a direct question - will you go to fight in Syria?
                      2. +5
                        27 August 2013 13: 43
                        Quote: Veter
                        And you won’t understand!

                        C'mon, he understands everything perfectly, he just needs to talk normally with people.
                      3. -1
                        27 August 2013 14: 07
                        Quote: Spade
                        C'mon, he understands everything perfectly, he just needs to talk normally with people.

                        But he does not know how. He knows how to fight only on the forum.
                2. +10
                  27 August 2013 12: 59
                  If necessary, I will go. No questions asked.
                  1. +4
                    27 August 2013 13: 13
                    And you, Lopatov, I have no doubt. Just hysterical screamers on the forum can only shout about how to send troops. They themselves do not want to fight more than in words.
                    1. +8
                      27 August 2013 13: 37
                      We are kind of "you".

                      Send troops? Maybe it should be. Officially, to prevent US interference. Not to fight, just to be. Because an attack on a military unit of a state is an act of aggression against the state. Maybe the Americans will finally come to their senses, stop posing as maniacs.
                      I honestly do not see any other way out, they must be stopped.
                      1. 0
                        27 August 2013 13: 48
                        Quote: Spade
                        Send troops? Maybe it should be. Officially, to prevent US interference. Not to fight, just to be. Because an attack on a military unit of a state is an act of aggression against the state. Maybe the Americans will finally come to their senses, stop posing as maniacs.
                        I honestly do not see any other way out, they must be stopped.

                        And they are not going to send troops. They will strike at the bases. And they also launched serious sponsorship of the militants, and not the kutsee that is now. And Russia will get involved in a war like Afghanistan. As a result, the Sunnis, whom the majority, one way or another, Assad and the company crush - not in a year, but in ten years.
                        Russia will receive a bunch of economic and political problems, including a conflict with Europe, Arabs and the States. Many Russian soldiers will die - who will fight with irregular partisans and militants, and not with a conventional adversary.

                        War, especially on foreign territory, is a wildly expensive exercise.
                      2. +5
                        27 August 2013 14: 06
                        We need to enter. So that they do not strike. So that a terrorist state that is initially hostile to all non-Muslims does not appear so close to us. There are simply no options.
                        This will come back to the new Americans on September 11th, but they are far from them, and they are once again trying to sit out behind the hawks. But neither we, nor you, nor Europe will seem a little.

                        Russia will receive many problems, but this is normal. Many hate older brothers because they do not allow a member to shove a socket.
                      3. -4
                        27 August 2013 14: 19
                        Quote: Spade
                        We need to enter. So that they do not strike. So that a terrorist state that is initially hostile to all non-Muslims does not appear so close to us. There are simply no options.

                        Has already. Afghan. And he is much closer. Russia's participation in the mess gives far more chances for the Islamists to strike at it.
                      4. +8
                        27 August 2013 14: 28
                        They will strike us anyway. It's not even discussed. Russia is one of the immediate targets of their "permanent gazavat". In the image and likeness of the Trotskyists, they are fighting for the victory of Islam throughout the world. Under wise leadership and huge financial support from Qatar and the Saudis. The Americans are once again trying to use this wave, and I am sure that once again they will not be able to keep it in check.
                      5. -2
                        27 August 2013 15: 07
                        Quote: Spade
                        In the image and likeness of the Trotskyists, they are fighting for the victory of Islam throughout the world. Under the wise guidance and with the huge financial support of Qatar and the Saudis. The Americans are once again trying to use this wave, and I am sure that once again they will not be able to keep it in obedience.

                        I agree. Only for such a brawl, you must have the strength. There are none at the moment.
                    2. -2
                      27 August 2013 16: 43
                      And you, if you fought, why do you say so here, you’re lying!
                3. Ruslan_F38
                  +2
                  27 August 2013 15: 05
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Quote: Veter


                  Reminiscent of alarmists during the Second World War.

                  Tell me, my friend. And who will go to war? You?


                  Probably YOU ARE FRIENDS and apparently for Israel?
            3. -2
              27 August 2013 11: 42
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING

              Kill yourself with caps, Sash, most screamers should kill themselves with caps.
              1. +2
                27 August 2013 12: 52
                Quote: Pimply
                Sasha, most screamers should kill themselves with hats.

                And what the hell can you prove to them request
            4. shpuntik
              +6
              27 August 2013 13: 15
              Alexander Romanov (1) RU Today, 10: 20 ↑ New
              WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING

              Alexander hi What actions? Yes, now there really are none. Previously, it was necessary to act. Not necessarily in the form of Yudashkin it shines there, you can put on Asadovskaya. By type of advisers in Vietnam, etc. countries.
              Secondly: we have many former warriors who will go to fight for money, not only for an idea. There are also those who are ready simply for the idea: "to help the brotherly Syrian people", and there are many of them in Ukraine, recently the article was here.
              Third: We need to prepare these units ahead of time. First, find out how much Assad is willing to pay. How much money does he have? Proceeding from this, form volunteer groups (from countries of the former USSR, Yugoslavia, etc.). I think twenty thousand could be recruited, and by this time there would have been no militants.
              Fourth: Agree with Assad on preferences, what deposits we can get in case of victory, what he can share.
              Fifth: To carry out an operation on a legitimate change of power in Syria. If Assad is so annoying, then put a successor loyal to us and Assad. Then the cause for SHA aggression will disappear.
              It was necessary to work, as Putin says, and not to chew snot. Let's see if they delivered the S-300 and how they work, it is not long left.
              And so, in all, they are handing over Syria because they connect us with the United States a lot - the foreign exchange reserves are there, in their currency.
            5. +7
              27 August 2013 15: 25
              Greetings, Alexander.
              WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING

              1. BDK again dragged something to Syria. What are these rectangular "pencil cases"? on the picture?
              2. Carry, with manic constancy.
              It is worth noting that the other day Russian citizens will be evacuated with the help of EMERCOM aircraft (about 200 people). In principle, this is a common practice, but today it looks especially acute.
              3. The Amer is not putting pressure on Syria, but on Putin, on the eve of the G20 summit. If we wanted war, we would have bombed long ago. The topic stretched over several years! During this period, we almost made a helicopter carrier to us, and amers all threaten. Rather, it is a dirty revenge for Snowden, for the failure of the "colored gay revolutionaries", for the position of Russia as a whole. An attempt to work "weakly", "push through".
              What should the Foreign Ministry answer? Mention "Mother Kuzma", in the tradition of the middle of the last century? The escalation of the conflict is guaranteed.
              Give amers a chance to save face? Lavrov gave. Fact? Fact. BDK stopped going to Syria? No. Fact? Fact. Nothing will happen before the G20. We are waiting for the confrontation of Obrai Obama and Vladimir Putin. Less than a week left.
              1. 0
                27 August 2013 15: 27
                again the photo did not open ... link:

                http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/39356/
            6. -4
              27 August 2013 19: 02
              the only thing that can be done in the current situation is to organize the evacuation of Russian citizens, and if at least an Asad family is possible. ship trips, s-300 delivery, sending airborne forces, etc., etc. doesn’t solve anything. I also write here for two days that there is no document that says that Russia is the guarantor of Syria’s security. Anyway, everything here is bending its line
              1. -1
                27 August 2013 21: 47
                Not early to bury SAR and Assad ?! Are you Iran at all not counting?
                Assad’s position is not Gaddafi and Saddam at all. Iran stands behind it and Russia and China help.
                1. +2
                  27 August 2013 22: 11
                  tell dear sergey, how does china help syria? so that it votes against the UN resolutions? so one Russian word is enough to veto it. and just recently, Chinese militants and anti-tank guns began to shine in the hands of militants. One can only guess how they fell into the hands of bearded creatures. And now you know what they are doing in China? 99% of the government sits and considers how much to invest in post-war Syria. China is always playing its own game. As for Iran, wait and see. For the past 8 years, I only heard about how they were going to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. One word. Even during the second Lebanese didn’t do anything concrete, some words. Iran’s Air Force is very weak. F-4s aren’t against f-16, especially when there are no spare parts
                  1. 0
                    27 August 2013 23: 07
                    The rebels have even more Russian weapons. And now that we do not produce and sell it? If Assad is overthrown tomorrow, who will get our weapons delivered to him?

                    Officially, China is against the UN resolution on Syria. With its foreign policy weight and trade with Iran, that's already enough. Of course, I don't know about unofficial help, for "who am I and what am I, what would they tell me about it?"
          4. Nitup
            -15
            27 August 2013 11: 20
            It is not too late, it is necessary to deliver a massive nuclear strike against the United States and Great Britain in order to deprive them of the opportunity to attack Syria.
            1. -2
              27 August 2013 11: 45
              And then commit suicide.
            2. +6
              27 August 2013 12: 45
              need to deliver a massive nuclear strike on the US and the UK
              If this is a joke, then pretty dumb. If you really think so - then you need to be treated, you are insane! laughing
            3. +2
              27 August 2013 12: 52
              Nitup (2) RU Today, 11:20 ↑

              It is not too late, it is necessary to deliver a massive nuclear strike against the United States and Great Britain in order to deprive them of the opportunity to attack Syria.
              What's this? Wacky joke?
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            5. +2
              27 August 2013 12: 58
              Quote: Nitup
              It is not too late, it is necessary to deliver a massive nuclear strike against the United States and Great Britain in order to deprive them of the opportunity to attack Syria.


              Patient, did you take any medicine today? This is not a medical site.
            6. 0
              27 August 2013 13: 08
              Quote: Nitup
              It’s not too late, you need to deliver a massive nuclear strike against the United States
              With the same effect, it’s enough to simply undermine our entire nuclear potential in our own territory. The effect will be the same, but performance is guaranteed. In this situation, the simplest thing is to withdraw our Iskanders from the RPD and strengthen the aviation and ground forces in the Western theater of operations ...
            7. -1
              27 August 2013 19: 10
              belay Do you have parabellum so that you can shoot yourself later?
          5. -1
            27 August 2013 11: 41
            Can you imagine how much one war costs, and how much is the Russian budget tied to international supplies?
            1. Nitup
              +5
              27 August 2013 11: 47
              Calm, I’ve joked
              1. +3
                27 August 2013 12: 54
                Quote: Nitup
                Calm, I’ve joked

                You need to warn, otherwise I already posted the comment.
        3. +12
          27 August 2013 10: 35
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          If we enter a warrior on the side of Syria, then this is a concrete warrior with all the consequences.


          Lavrov is right. Russia will not fight now. Maybe it will, but then, like a colony for independence.
          1. +4
            27 August 2013 14: 11
            Quote: Vadivak
            Lavrov is right. Russia will not fight now. Maybe it will, but then, like a colony for independence.

            Bravo Vadim! Well-aimed quote.
      3. +21
        27 August 2013 10: 04
        Quote: Karavan
        I thought, it turns out, in the Mediterranean now only 5 of our BDKs are. The main forces of the Black Sea Fleet drove off to Venezuela, Pacific Fleet gather with a trip to Australia ... no brains or what?

        Do you propose to measure pisyunami with the NATO fleet? Believe me, ours will be shorter and thinner. Provoke a global conflict? Maybe you should soberly assess the situation, and only then move the boats and planes. There are other ways to resolve the issue. Direct participation of Russia in the upcoming conflict is unacceptable, whatever the consequences. Or is the blue sky over your head already tired?
        1. +7
          27 August 2013 10: 21
          Quote: IRBIS
          Direct participation of Russia in the upcoming conflict is unacceptable, whatever the consequences. Or is the blue sky over your head already tired?

          Sasha, you’ll be accused of cowardice. laughing
          1. +8
            27 August 2013 10: 28
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Sasha, you’ll be accused of cowardice.

            Hi Sanya! What are these charges compared to harsh reality. It’s just that some had an imagination and a warlike spirit awoke. Here are just about the consequences to think not in their spare time.
            1. +5
              27 August 2013 10: 50
              Quote: IRBIS
              Here are just about the consequences to think not in their spare time.

              Hi hi And what to think if they even say it without thinking, but Lavrov could say that Russia will join the war (yesterday) alone blurted out. I don’t even think, but what would it be today, after such words, the whole world was in the country, and in the world too, SHOCK. What next request
            2. Nitup
              0
              27 August 2013 11: 24
              Quote: IRBIS
              It’s just that some had an imagination and a warlike spirit awoke.

              Yes, indeed, the warlike spirit of the fighter of the keyboard front woke up in many
              1. Jin
                +1
                27 August 2013 15: 38
                Quote: Nitup
                Yes, indeed, the warlike spirit of the fighter of the keyboard front woke up in many


                For the frequent among those who only war on television, but in the movies saw ...
                1. 0
                  27 August 2013 16: 43
                  Quote: Jin
                  For the frequent among those who only war on television, but in the movies saw ...


                  Keyboard Front Fighters on March Today
                  1. Jin
                    0
                    27 August 2013 16: 49
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Keyboard Front Fighters on March Today


                    But why don’t you march when when, except for comments, he doesn’t come from anywhere ...
                  2. +2
                    27 August 2013 17: 26
                    Duck you are one of them!
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            3. Jin
              +1
              27 August 2013 15: 36
              Quote: IRBIS
              It’s just that some had an imagination and a warlike spirit awoke. Here are just about the consequences to think not in their spare time.


              That's right ... when the bloodstream starts flowing and there is a bono-bono, other "songs" are sung, many people start to remember their mother ... but it's too late ...
      4. Ruslan_F38
        +2
        27 August 2013 10: 09
        Quote: Karavan
        I thought, it turns out, in the Mediterranean now only 5 of our BDKs are. The main forces of the Black Sea Fleet drove off to Venezuela, Pacific Fleet gather with a trip to Australia ... no brains or what?


        Brains are just there - brains save their skins, assets, loot.
      5. +2
        27 August 2013 15: 16
        So what happens, the departure of our fleet from the Mediterranean Sea, preparation for the "crustacean move"?
    3. +9
      27 August 2013 09: 33
      Quote: gud123
      The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!!

      Calm comrades, this is revenge for Snowden, and indeed for the scolded GDP of the virginity of the Obama administration .... My subjective opinion is that everything will depend on the decision of GDP. Well, who is the world leader now ????? I wonder how the GDP will respond? It would be great if you can stick it even deeper into this pack ...........
      1. -4
        27 August 2013 09: 45
        Your world leader in GDP has nothing to do with this situation. Lavrov already said through his mouth. If he (GDP) somehow wanted the Syrians to help, he could do this before, supplying defensive and anti-aircraft weapons. How many times Assad and his envoys came to Moscow, persuading them to deliver weapons? What is the result? The mythical supplies of the S-300 and how many helicopters there are ???
        1. Garyk701
          +4
          27 August 2013 09: 55
          Are you sure that the S-300 is not in Syria? They have half of the country there teeming with Arab mercenaries, and Assad, let your trump cards burn. Don’t go to Asadok’s du-cancer, since he’s still alive and at the helm.
          1. +1
            27 August 2013 10: 21
            You, apparently, have not been here for a long time. So, let it be known to you, exactly the same comments were a year and a half ago, when ours leaked and betrayed Libya, and the urapatriots like you tried to convince something that they say Gaddafi has modern Russian weapons with which he will strike the amers, and that our fleet will come and save Libya. So don’t, we’ve been through it already
            1. +6
              27 August 2013 12: 56
              Quote: Dangerous
              and urapatriots like you tried to convince something that they say Gaddafi has modern Russian weapons,

              There were no such comments, simply because Gaddafi did not have modern weapons and everyone knew this
            2. +2
              27 August 2013 13: 08
              Dangerous RU Today, 10:21 ↑

              You, apparently, have not been here for a long time. So, let it be known to you, exactly the same comments were a year and a half ago, when ours leaked and betrayed Libya, and the urapatriots like you tried to convince something that they say Gaddafi has modern Russian weapons with which he will strike the amers, and that our fleet will come and save Libya. So don’t, we’ve been through it already
              Libya did not even go close to being "friends" with Russia, but rather the opposite. Gaddafi made a "stake" on Western friends who bombed him. So, as you put it, it was not Russia but his "Western friends"
            3. 0
              28 August 2013 07: 34
              Maybe in order not to be unfounded, you start to screen comments?
        2. +8
          27 August 2013 10: 08
          Quote: Dangerous
          Your world leader in GDP has nothing to do with this situation. Lavrov already said through his mouth. If he (GDP) somehow wanted the Syrians to help, he could do this before, supplying defensive and anti-aircraft weapons. How many times Assad and his envoys came to Moscow, persuading them to deliver weapons? What is the result? The mythical supplies of the S-300 and how many helicopters there are ???

          Firstly, the foreign policy of GDP is quite at a level that is confirmed by Obama’s reaction ....
          Secondly, they personally report to you what and how much was sent to Syria? If yes, then you are really Dangerous, if not then I'm sorry, all your theses are just verbiage ...
          Well, judge for yourself, not so long ago amers refused to support terrorists in Syria, and now they suddenly pretend that Syria is their second Vietnam. And all this shuffling happens after Snowden ..... I do not know whose project "Snowden" but America's reaction can hardly be called consistent ......
          1. -2
            27 August 2013 10: 28
            I think that Syria was still sold. No wonder the prince came to Moscow. They just made it so that they proudly prelude to reject the offers, and under the table they decided everything.
            1. +4
              27 August 2013 10: 52
              Quote: brace
              I think that they still sold Syria

              Sorry, but a mercantile expression is not appropriate here .... And then, does Syria and Russia have a military alliance? It’s not profitable for us to fight now, but we are providing support, both diplomatic and armament, to Syria, and it’s not for nothing that the BDK went there like regular buses. What do you think GDP will have to do, bomb the US? If amers with their pack start large-scale military operations in Syria, then this will be Obama’s serious jamb as a politician ... Please note that both in Libya and Iraq there was an internal conflict between the government and the people, and in Syria, on the contrary, people will rally face of the aggressor .. Even if the main hostilities are blamed on Turkey, Erdogan will end badly, and the GDP will still receive its dividends in the form of a new course for Turkey more friendly Russia ......
              1. 0
                27 August 2013 15: 19
                Quote: ziqzaq
                And then, does Syria have a military alliance with Russia? It’s not profitable for us to fight now, and we are providing support, both diplomatic and weapons, to Syria,

                This is already an excuse.
            2. +1
              27 August 2013 23: 18
              Do not tell someone and how much has gotten from this sale?
        3. +6
          27 August 2013 10: 10
          Quote: Dangerous
          How many times Assad and his envoys came to Moscow, persuading them to deliver weapons?

          And what do you think of delivering your BDK to Tartus? Not the diapers! For acquaintances, the son is serving at one of the BDK Black Sea Fleet.
        4. -2
          27 August 2013 11: 47
          Some S-300s do not do weather. And for the rest - will you pay for someone else's war?
          1. 0
            28 August 2013 06: 07
            If Israel enters the war on the side of the United States, whose war will it pay for ?!
        5. +2
          27 August 2013 15: 32
          . If he (GDP) somehow wanted the Syrians to help, he could do this before, supplying defensive and anti-aircraft weapons. How many times Assad and his envoys came to Moscow, persuading them to deliver weapons? What is the result? The mythical supplies of the S-300 and how many helicopters there are ???

          Dangerous, especially for those living in a different dimension:
          08.12.12 "Novocherkassk" and "Saratov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          27.12.12 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          01.01.13 "Novocherkassk" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          09.01.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          09.01.13 "Saratov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          12.01.13 "Novocherkassk" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          14.01.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          17.01.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          2? .01.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          04.02.13 "Azov" and "Saratov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          07.02.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          21.02.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          25.03.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          12.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          14.04.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          ??. 04.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          23.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          30.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          05.05.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          1? .05.13 "Azov", "Alexander Shabalin" and "Kaliningrad" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          19.05.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          ??. 05.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          23.05.13 "Admiral Nevelskoy" and "Relight" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          27.05.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          17.06.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          20.06.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          01.07.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          13.07.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          ??. 07.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          26.07.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          31.07.13 “Minsk” and “Alexander Shabalin” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          ??. 08.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          11.08.13 "Minsk" - to the Mediterranean Sea.

          17.08.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
          18.08.13 "Admiral Nevelskoy" and "Relight" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
          20.08.13 "Azov" and "Alexander Shabalin" - to the Mediterranean Sea.


          just don't say that there is "humanitarian aid"
      2. +12
        27 August 2013 09: 46
        Quote: ziqzaq
        Well, who is the world leader now?

        World leader? Well, definitely not Obama, this world bandit
      3. -4
        27 August 2013 11: 46
        Hmm, insanity grew stronger.
        1. +1
          27 August 2013 12: 57
          Quote: Pimply
          Hmm, insanity grew stronger.

          If this is for me, then I can answer the same.
          1. -2
            27 August 2013 13: 14
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            If this is for me, then I can answer the same.

            Yes, Sash is not for you. There is enough for someone.
    4. +5
      27 August 2013 09: 39
      Quote: gud123
      The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!!

      In addition to opinion, there must also be WILL.
      1. -7
        27 August 2013 09: 46
        Quote: Denis
        must also be WILL.

        Start 3 world-dare
        1. +7
          27 August 2013 09: 56
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Start 3 world-dare

          Tired, by golly already.
          1. -2
            27 August 2013 10: 02
            Quote: Denis
            Tired, by golly already.

            I am returning your minus to you, except for fiery speeches about what should be given to them in the teeth, there is nothing in your comments.
            1. +6
              27 August 2013 10: 14
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              I am returning your minus to you, except for fiery speeches about what should be given to them in the teeth, there is nothing in your comments.

              Smart guy, read my comments carefully, And, get rid of yourself already.
              1. +7
                27 August 2013 10: 33
                Quote: Denis
                Smart guy, read my comments carefully, And, get rid of yourself already.


                In general, something has happened to Romanov recently. Previously, he left adequate comments, but now ....
                Maybe his account was stolen?
                1. +8
                  27 August 2013 11: 00
                  Quote: Veter
                  Maybe his account was stolen?


                  No way tricks of the Zionists and the Mossad wink
                  Yes, just a man rationally argues.
                  I'm surprised myself. I respect those who are not afraid to express and defend their opinions in spite of the "hurray-shouts".
                  Romanov is a solid plus from me.
                  And now let’s throw me minusers too.
                  1. +1
                    27 August 2013 19: 07
                    Neksel
                    Karauuuuul !!! Mossad hid the moderator of VO and tortures him into polemics with military leaders eager to drown the 6th US fleet with one parachute regiment, wipe the Saudis off the face of the earth, restrain Turkey and hang Israel by the leg !!!! I propose to start raising funds for the ransom of the innocently abducted from the pro-proclaimed Zionists! Money can be sent to me, I will give it! .... :)))))

                    Pancake. read, read and could not bear ..... :)))
                2. +2
                  27 August 2013 11: 52
                  He now leaves more than adequate comments, not cheers-patriotic cries.

                  For the sake of interest - predict me the situation of the invasion of Syria - the political, economic and military consequences. Forward.
                  1. shpuntik
                    +5
                    27 August 2013 13: 55
                    Pimpled (1) RU Today, 11:52 ↑
                    For the sake of interest - predict me the situation of the invasion of Syria - the political, economic and military consequences. Forward.

                    Eugene, why immediately the invasion ?? No, there is another way. The one along which the Sha go. Who pays bearded men in Syria?
                    For example: for $ 2000 per month there will be many who want to take a chance, in the vast expanses of the former USSR. And these are people trained, often having combat experience.
                    Now let's multiply: 10 thousand people * 2000 $ * 12 months * 2 years = 480 million dollars. Plus the same amount for food and ammunition - $ 2000 per month. We get 1 billion SHA dollars. Thinks Assad didn't have one billion? I think I was, and not alone, now they can give a loan, I don't know. But in one year, ten thousand soldiers would have cleared Syria up and down, not just two. Therefore - it could be, but in Russia they did not bother with this - the Sha is a strategic partner, buys oil, we keep a "safety cushion" in dollars, treasuries and in Sha banks. Etc... hi
                    1. 0
                      27 August 2013 14: 08
                      Quote: shpuntik
                      Eugene, why immediately the invasion ?? No, there is another way. The one along which the Sha go. Who pays bearded men in Syria?
                      For example: for $ 2000 per month there will be many who want to take a chance, in the vast expanses of the former USSR. And these are people trained, often having combat experience.

                      There is. Then what's the point?
                      1. shpuntik
                        +4
                        27 August 2013 14: 34
                        Pimpled (1) RU Today, 14:08 ↑ New
                        There is. Then what's the point?

                        Meaning: to have a base in the Mediterranean Sea. Main. + To prevent the spread of radical Islam, these geeks will become smaller.
                        Harming the Sha and NATO is not an end in itself, but if you leave Syria, they will go further. And these bearded men, frostbitten, will end up in the "soft underbelly" of Russia: Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc.
                      2. -6
                        27 August 2013 15: 07
                        For the base, ships and equipment are needed. The permanent staff of the base in Tartus totaled 2 people.
                      3. +1
                        27 August 2013 22: 40
                        Well, it's you in vain, the regular staff there is normal. And there may not be as many ships as you want, but they are. And go to the Mediterranean.
                      4. -1
                        27 August 2013 23: 16
                        Quote: andreitk20
                        Well, it's you in vain, the regular staff there is normal. And there may not be as many ships as you want, but they are. And go to the Mediterranean.


                        Sure?
                        In connection with the civil war in Syria, which began in 2011, interviews of Russian correspondents concerning the Tartus base were more frequent. In the interview, in particular, it was said that there was no modernization of the modest Russian sector. The staff is 4 people, while at the beginning of 2002 the staff was about 50 people
              2. 0
                27 August 2013 10: 52
                Quote: Denis
                Smart ass,

                Here in a personal wrote
                Quote: Denis
                And, get rid of yourself already.

                Take advantage of the emergency
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                  1. -7
                    27 August 2013 11: 53
                    Quote: Denis
                    Threat Warning? - no problem, threaten yourself. You yourself started everything, read carefully again, what I am writing !!

                    Do not hysteria, not a girl of 5 years.
                    1. +3
                      27 August 2013 12: 12
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Do not hysteria, not a girl of 5 years.

                      Pimpy, what are you talking about ?? Only you can hysteria. One about the 3rd world, the other there.
                      1. 0
                        27 August 2013 12: 32
                        Quote: Denis
                        Pimpy, what are you talking about ?? Only you can hysteria. One about the 3rd world, the other there.

                        I'm talking about the fact that many caps are usually pumped with a lot of blood.
                      2. +2
                        27 August 2013 15: 54
                        Quote: Pimply
                        I'm talking about the fact that many caps are usually pumped with a lot of blood.

                        The fact of the matter is that no one wants war, we all express our thoughts in our own way, sometimes in a rush, turning to individuals (including myself), which is not acceptable. We argue and swear over the fucking US policy that it would be empty.
                      3. -4
                        27 August 2013 16: 47
                        Quote: Denis
                        We argue and swear over the fucking US policy that it would be empty.

                        Syria is not US policy. This is a policy in principle. The demonstrators were not agents of the State Department, but ordinary Syrians, to whom everything was disgusting. If Assad had not been so persistent and did not get the support of Russia, for Syria everything could have ended much better. Although, however, it is unlikely. There, one way or another, Iran and Hezbollah would have entered.
          2. -1
            27 August 2013 11: 49
            And what is he tired of if he is right. Maybe not the 3rd World War, but Russia is too much tied to external supplies of resources. And those that Qatar or the SA can make up for.
            1. +4
              27 August 2013 15: 07
              Do you imagine the price of these resources if Russia leaves the market?
            2. +1
              27 August 2013 22: 29
              Qatar?! How will Qatar cover an additional 75 lard cubes per year to Europe at a price of $ 300-400 per thousand? What is stopping him from closing this volume now?
              1. +1
                27 August 2013 23: 23
                Quote: 31231
                ? What is stopping him from closing this volume now?
                Unfinished gas liquefaction facilities and international agreements. For example, the construction of an LNG terminal in Poland has begun, where Qatargas plans to supply 2014 million tons of gas annually from 1.
                1. 0
                  27 August 2013 23: 55
                  Do not tell the price ?! Have you ever wondered why Germany invested in Norstream, and not in many LNG terminals? It seems to me that the Germans will not be dumber than the lords.
                  1. 0
                    28 August 2013 00: 07
                    It's about abusing
                    Germany expects an increase in LNG supplies from Qatar. This was stated by German Chancellor A. Merkel.

                    “A closer interaction between the two countries in the supply of liquefied gas is possible,” she said.
                    1. 0
                      28 August 2013 06: 14
                      Maybe?! Europe’s gas consumption will increase. From 250 lard it is expected to 330. You have not announced the price of Qatari gas from the Baltic.
        2. Sasha
          +9
          27 August 2013 11: 14
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Start 3 world-dare

          Why are amers not afraid to start a third world? Or fear, but are sure that Russia is more afraid? We are on an equal footing, since the world war is (probably) the end for everyone. So why should we fear more than others? Thinking out loud.
          1. -4
            27 August 2013 11: 56
            Because the amers have the strongest economy in the world and they are a superpower, which has the most powerful army in the world, and at the same time they have a bunch of allies who have similar interests and are ready to join the war with them. And now for the sake of interest - who will join Russia? Venezuela - which is one of the main suppliers of oil to the States, and which does not want to risk? Kazakhstan - which has good relations with the West? Belarus - which, at the slightest opportunity, hits Russia in the back: how, for example, with the arrest of Director Uralkali?
            1. MVS
              MVS
              +1
              27 August 2013 13: 47
              Quote: Pimply
              Because the amers have the strongest economy in the world and they are a superpower, which has the most powerful army in the world, and at the same time they have a bunch of allies who have similar interests and are ready to join the war with them. And now for the sake of interest - who will join Russia? Venezuela - which is one of the main suppliers of oil to the States, and which does not want to risk? Kazakhstan - which has good relations with the West? Belarus - which, at the slightest opportunity, hits Russia in the back: how, for example, with the arrest of Director Uralkali?

              I agree with you in many respects, but I cannot but add: no matter what the economy and the army are, there will be no winner in 3MB. I doubt that at least one person will survive after the war. So no one needs war.
              1. 0
                27 August 2013 14: 09
                Quote: MVS
                in 3MB there will be no winner. I doubt that at least one person will survive after the war. So no one needs war

                Probably.
                1. MVS
                  MVS
                  +2
                  27 August 2013 14: 16
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Probably.

                  Most likely it will. And even if someone survives, he will envy the dead.
            2. +3
              27 August 2013 13: 55
              Quote: Pimply
              Because amers has the strongest economy in the world

              Truly insanity grew stronger .........
              1. +2
                27 August 2013 13: 58
                Quote: ziqzaq
                Truly insanity grew stronger .........

                The result of liberal under-education in the Russian Federation.
                1. -1
                  27 August 2013 14: 11
                  Quote: Veter
                  The result of liberal under-education in the Russian Federation.

                  Funny, I studied back in the USSR. Maybe tell me where the mistake is. With numbers, preferably.
              2. -2
                27 August 2013 14: 10
                Quote: ziqzaq
                Truly insanity grew stronger ........
                Want to challenge it? Forward and with FIGURES.
                1. +1
                  27 August 2013 15: 38
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Want to challenge it? Forward and with FIGURES.

                  And what do you call the strongest economy in the world?
                  http://russian.rt.com/article/13827
                  http://expert.ru/2013/08/6/proschaj-amerikanskaya-mechtai/
                  1. 0
                    27 August 2013 16: 48
                    Name the economy stronger than the US economy.
                    1. +2
                      27 August 2013 17: 32
                      And by what criteria of economy do you compare?
                      1. 0
                        27 August 2013 17: 56
                        According to the nominal (absolute) value of the gross domestic product in dollar terms, calculated using the market exchange rate or established by the authorities. The UN list, IMF list, World Bank list - everything is very clear there.
                        At purchasing power parity, the States are also ahead.
                      2. +1
                        27 August 2013 18: 53
                        "In purchasing power parity, the United States is also ahead" - a masterpiece! By the way, you were not the first to notice this!
                    2. +2
                      27 August 2013 18: 35
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Name the economy stronger than the US economy.

                      Having a printing press is not an economy. Of course, after the victory in the Cold War, thanks to the betrayal of the hunchbacked America, she gained an undeniable advantage, and look how she took advantage of it ...
                      Have you even looked at the links that were in my post? I really hope that you are not a banal troll and get acquainted with the information, even if it goes against your point of view ......
                      1. +1
                        27 August 2013 18: 41
                        Zimbabwe has a printing press. What did he bring her to? Hyperinflation, here's the shock. Apparently, you do not know how much the USA invents, promotes and produces.
                        Yes, I watched. I even collaborated a couple of times with Rush there a couple of times, and I know the place through which they rivet reports.
                        And city bankrupt - this, excuse me, is also not a shock, and not an indicator of the economy as a whole. This is a common occurrence. It’s just that in Russia, for example, they cover it with beautiful statistics and funding from the federal budget. And the facts are more than objective - the US is the leading economy in the world.
                      2. +2
                        27 August 2013 20: 22
                        Quote: Pimply
                        And the facts are more than objective - the US is the leading economy in the world.

                        Well, time will tell ..... But now the reality is that the United States, producing about 8% of world GDP (gross product), consumes about half ... I personally prefer the Stalinist economy, I don’t know how applicable it is in modern realities .... I am sure that if you want and the will of domestic, patriotic elites, this model can be implemented .....
                      3. -1
                        27 August 2013 20: 31
                        Quote: ziqzaq
                        Stalin's economy, I don’t know how applicable it is in modern realities ....


                        Can you briefly describe its essence?
                      4. 0
                        28 August 2013 00: 35
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Can you briefly describe its essence?

                        Unlike you, I am not a big specialist in economics, but I will try to state my understanding of the Stalinist model and its difference from the current American one. The main thesis of the Stalin model, in my opinion, is a fixed money supply which is regulated by the state in strict accordance with the amount of the gross product, i.e. As GDP grows, money rises in price, while goods become cheaper. At the same time, the state protects its ruble zone (as it is now in America). There is no debt interest. In the American model, a small private firm (Fed), by order of the government, prints money and interest loan gives to the state. But if only the Fed can (has the right) to print money, where can the state get these percentages? That's right, order more from the Fed, increasing the amount of debt. With this model, the money supply increases and commodity prices go up all the time. This is a system of debt slavery at its core, in essence ...
                        The very meaning of money is replaced, from a measure of labor, and any product is a result of labor, money turns into a product and the main production in America is the dollar ... There is a redistribution of priority, from an auxiliary sphere serving the production of physical values, the financial sphere becomes the dominant structure, where the main profits are "earned", and this is, in principle, incorrect and immoral ....
                2. +2
                  27 August 2013 17: 31
                  Grade 8 at least finish?
            3. 0
              27 August 2013 14: 25
              Quote: Pimply
              Because Amers has the strongest economy in the world and they are a superpower that has the most powerful army in the world.

              Bah, how much saliva.
              "Winning not by number, but by skill" A. V. Suvorov
              1. -4
                27 August 2013 15: 09
                Quote: Ustas
                Bah, how much saliva.
                "Winning not by number, but by skill" A. V. Suvorov

                Said Suvorov, with unlimited human resources, and serious financial support.

                Yes, he was right. That is why the Americans have the most powerful army - in addition to the number, they also have the ability.
            4. 0
              27 August 2013 20: 01
              You idealize the United States too much ...... They are registered in bed and they are eager to fight .... I think that the "strongest economy" after participating in the invasion will collapse like a rotten barn ...... Russia will not openly climb anywhere on the contrary, it will try to do so that the United States and co are bogged down even more in debt .... BUT GDP will definitely do something to increase its rating. What is Syria for our ruling elite ???? Bargaining chip only.
              1. -2
                27 August 2013 20: 07
                Quote: JonnyT
                You idealize the United States too much ... They are prescribed bed rest and they are eager to fight .... I think that the "strongest economy" after participating in the invasion will collapse like a rotten barn ...

                No, I just know what the economy is.
                1. +1
                  27 August 2013 20: 24
                  Yes, they said how they cut it off ....
                  But what about recession?

                  Firstly, the crisis in the United States and, as a consequence, around the world (I think you don’t need to explain to the readers the degree of globalization of the modern economy) will intensify and will become protracted. I do not rule out temporary surges in activity and growth, for example, in connection with the outbreak of war in Iraq (or elsewhere). In the event that the Americans and their allies manage to conduct a blitzkrieg and not get caught up in long-term military operations, this will temporarily stimulate the economy (there is a clear correlation between successful military operations and the growth of domestic consumption and production (defense order)). Nevertheless, the US government has already exhausted other possibilities for overcoming the recession, and any war places a heavy burden on the budget, leading to higher prices for oil (and other energy carriers), which in turn increases the costs of consumers and companies.

                  A blitzkrieg in Syria will definitely not be. There will be many downed planes and dead special forces ......
                  1. +1
                    27 August 2013 20: 46
                    The fact is that the recession in the US economy ended in June 2009. This is stated in the official press release of the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which determines the beginning and completion of the recession in the country. In October last year, it was already possible to say that the US economy came out of recession, as the country's GDP grew for the first time in the previous year - by 3,5%. However, officially the beginning and end of the recession is announced by NBER. Since the NBER has been studying all kinds of macroeconomic indicators for a long time, an organization often reports a recession after the country has emerged from the crisis, and vice versa.

                    According to NBER, the US economy has been in a recession since December 2007. The recession, which lasted for a year and a half, became the longest in the history of the country since the Second World War. In the fourth quarter of 2008, the decline in US GDP was a record for 50 years, but a year later, in the fourth quarter of 2009, the country's Department of Commerce reported on economic growth, which was the highest in six years.
                    1. +2
                      27 August 2013 21: 16
                      national bureau .... are you sure of the veracity of this official press release? Or maybe this is just a way to reassure investors?

                      A month ago, I worked with Delta Dazaing, an American engineer, Ronald Belevard. So he said that now in the USA there is a terrible stagnation .... the development is very miserable or it does not exist at all .....

                      So who do I trust the press release of the national bureau or an American engineer ???

                      And let's not forget about facts such as bankruptcy of cities, and rising unemployment .....

                      In my opinion, the US leadership just wants to poison economic affairs through defense orders ...... Yes, and the heads of defense plants are in power there.
                      1. -1
                        27 August 2013 22: 20
                        Quote: JonnyT
                        national bureau .... are you sure of the veracity of this official press release? Or maybe this is just a way to reassure investors?


                        Quite. Because to catch these guys on a mistake can be any more or less competent economist.
            5. 0
              27 August 2013 22: 34
              The most powerful economy with a "hole" in the official national debt in the country's annual GDP ?! Although, what am I talking about ?! I forgot "who pays for a girl, she tells fairy tales for that."
              1. 0
                27 August 2013 23: 26
                Quote: 31231
                The strongest economy with a "hole" in the official public debt in the country's annual GDP?

                Does something bother you? Apparently, ignorance of economic basic truths.
                1. -1
                  27 August 2013 23: 58
                  Question mark at the end did not notice ?! I asked you, because here you are submitting yourself as a specialist of a wide profile. And you are again moralizing.
                  1. 0
                    28 August 2013 00: 09
                    Quote: 31231
                    Question mark at the end did not notice ?! I asked you, because here you are submitting yourself as a specialist of a wide profile. And you are again moralizing.

                    And I need to chew you the basics, how can a economy be strong with a budget deficit?
                    1. 0
                      28 August 2013 00: 11
                      Quote: Pimply
                      how can a economy be strong with a budget deficit?


                      War?
                    2. -1
                      28 August 2013 07: 47
                      Well, if this is not difficult of course. How multinational companies are withdrawing their production and investments in Southeast Asia from this powerful economy. Or are there no bankrupt cities in the USA and the Detroit industry is simply drowning in demand for its products and services?
                    3. soldier's grandson
                      +1
                      28 August 2013 08: 38
                      don't prove him anything he is useless
              2. -1
                27 August 2013 23: 30
                Quote: 31231
                "who pays for a girl, she tells fairy tales for that."


                !!!!!!! drinks Has the world changed?
            6. -1
              27 August 2013 23: 22
              Are the Russian-speaking Jews of Israel?
          2. +1
            27 August 2013 12: 59
            None of the shapkozakidatel really substantiated why Russia needs a war. In any case, Russia will be the loser by getting involved in this war. Understand, Syria is just a pretext for dragging Iran into the war. Then it will be possible to destroy all its nuclear facilities on "legal" grounds. After that, the war will end immediately.
            1. +3
              27 August 2013 14: 06
              zart_arn RU Today, 12:59 PM ↑

              None of the shapkozakidatel really substantiated why Russia needs a war. In any case, Russia will be the loser by getting involved in this war. Understand, Syria is just a pretext for dragging Iran into the war. Then it will be possible to destroy all its nuclear facilities on "legal" grounds. After that, the war will end immediately.
              Russia certainly does not need a war, but Iran's "nuclear program" is the same pretext as a "chemical attack". It's all about the independence and non-control of the United States, and this is the biggest sin smile When Iran was "friends" with America, and Iran's "oil industry" was 80% owned by the West, the States themselves brought the reactor to Tehran and it was with America's suggestion that Iran began its nuclear program, just like Pakistan. But as soon as it "sent" Amerov and nationalize oil wells as he immediately became an outcast
            2. +1
              27 August 2013 18: 54
              If the final goal was Iran, the United States would have found a reason less scandalous and cheaper. They are masters to come up with reasons.
            3. +1
              27 August 2013 18: 56
              But are they asking us? The Russians do not start the war, they end it! I hope so!
              1. -1
                27 August 2013 19: 01
                Quote: vostok68
                But are they asking us? The Russians do not start the war, they end it! I hope so!

                You also have a bad history.
                1. +1
                  27 August 2013 19: 51
                  Well, you ask everyone whether you’re going to fight or not? And answer yourself, will you go to fight for Russia if the war begins?
                  1. +1
                    27 August 2013 20: 00
                    Quote: vostok68
                    Well, you ask everyone whether you’re going to fight or not? And answer yourself, will you go to fight for Russia if the war begins?

                    I ask because I did not hear the answer. Here everyone shouts that they must send troops to Syria. The funny thing is that no one of the screamers is ready to go.

                    And I do not think that the war in Syria is for Russia, forgive me.
                    1. 0
                      27 August 2013 20: 20
                      I kind of asked directly, "will you go to fight for Russia" if the war starts? ", But you again avoided answering, translated to Syria, maybe I put it wrong? I don't blame you, you live with us, in Russia, and I guarantee that I will protect all citizens of Russia, no matter what happens and whatever nationality they are!
                      1. -3
                        27 August 2013 20: 40
                        Quote: vostok68
                        I do not blame you, you live with us, in Russia, and I guarantee that I will protect all the citizens of Russia, whatever happens and whatever nationality they are!

                        And what answer did you want for a non-specific question? Let me ask if you stopped writing in the morning. Answer only yes or no.
          3. 0
            27 August 2013 15: 43
            "are the states not afraid of ..?" They are afraid, but they are too deeply bogged down. If they turn it back now, the whole world will make fun of them. Therefore, now they are shaking their weapons, pouring boiling water over their thighs themselves with fear, "what if they are beating us up again." But the invasion is still a real threat. It was not for nothing that the United States screamed and demanded to let the BOV commission into Syria. They want the appearance of a legitimate invasion. As Ivan Andreevich wrote, "... but to give the case, a legitimate look and sense ...". They decided for themselves a long time ago, even before the commission, that Assad is a villain, poisoning people, and we, such white, fluffy saviors of humanity. The commission was looking not for BOV, but for a suitable pretext, passing by "inappropriate" evidence.
            1. 0
              28 August 2013 00: 01

              Remembering the test tube with "anthrax" at the UN, I assumed that the commission came to Syria in order to go to the bank and pass it off as sarin.
      2. +2
        27 August 2013 10: 00
        Why fight, send the Mediterranean squadron back to the Mediterranean Sea and stand by the American ships to show our missiles, this will cool them and also Mr. Erdoran and his ministers, for Israel there are hailstones in Syria, let's see how their iron dome will save them, for tomahawks there are shells in Syria for the Yankee Aviation, Legushatniks and Tommy there are beeches about the S-300 PMU there will be no exact data. There will be a big mess, Iran has a force, the US squadron in the Persian Gulf will be tough, Iran would have our S-300 and the Su-35 squadron and su- 34 The Americans want to set fire to a barrel of gunpowder in Syria and hit the road leaving the British, French, Jews and Turks to deal with everything, and then France, Britain will flee, it is expensive there, Qatar, Syria, Iran, Turkey will suffer. Israel! And the Amers will have their own dollars. I would like to see how American ships will burn and sink in the Mediterranean Sea and the Persian Gulf from Russian weapons, I would also like to remove the flags from the sinking American aircraft carriers and so that our representative in ONN V. Churkin about I gave them to an American representative with the words: "It seems this is yours, you dropped it when you drowned and ran away!"
        1. +1
          27 August 2013 10: 16
          Quote: Esso
          remove flags from drowning American Aircraft Carriers and that our representative in ONN V. Churkin give them away

          Comrade Assad as a legitimate war trophy.
          And best of all, like this:
        2. Grishka100watt
          +2
          27 August 2013 11: 29
          Well, how many ships do you want to fly there? And from what fleets, feel free to ask? No matter how much they collect, the Americans will drive there 3-4 times more.
          So, what is next?
        3. -2
          27 August 2013 11: 58
          Quote: Esso
          But why fight, send the Mediterranean squadron back to the Mediterranean Sea and stand at the American ships to show our missiles, this will cool them down also of Erdoran and his ministers, for Israel there are hail in Syria,


          Do you cover the bases in Turkey, Qatar, Kuwait?
          1. +1
            27 August 2013 17: 39
            And you are aware that our ships of the 70s are raiders designed for one hit and the complete destruction of the enemy, although of course the destroyers Erly Burke are very strong ships, we have nothing to oppose them!
          2. +1
            27 August 2013 18: 02
            Turkey, Qatar and Kuwait I think Iran will worry!
        4. -4
          27 August 2013 21: 02
          Quote: Esso
          Why fight, send the Mediterranean squadron back to the Mediterranean Sea and stand by American ships to show our missiles,

          Just wondering how to show it?

          Quote: Esso
          for Israel there are hailstones in Syria, let's see how their iron dome will save

          Syria had at least 5 reasons to answer Israel, either there are no Hailstones, or ..... bench press


          Quote: Esso
          I would like to see how American ships will burn and sink in the Mediterranean Sea and the Persian Gulf from Russian weapons

          I don’t know how much more you cuckoo has poured life. but I think half the forest will not pump up to this point.

          Quote: Esso
          to our representative in ONN V. Churkin

          Probably it will be another Churkin, since this Churkin is at the UN.
          1. 0
            27 August 2013 23: 31
            Russia, too, did not have the opportunity to answer the Germans in 1917. You are rather big and must understand what a civil war is. Or is it a sin for the Israeli authorities, like the Germans in 1917, not to pluck a country struggling with the "cholera of radical Islam"?
            1. +2
              27 August 2013 23: 57
              Quote: 31231
              Or is it a sin for the Israeli authorities, like the Germans in 1917, not to pluck a country struggling with the "cholera of radical Islam"?

              Another radical Islam? Syria, for a moment, has sponsored dozens of years of radical Islamists from Hamas and Islamic Jihad, as well as from Hezbollah. And they pay her reciprocity.
              1. 0
                28 August 2013 06: 22
                Assad’s power stands on radical Islam ?! Wow. And why do not bombard Qatar and Saudi Arabia radical Palestinians ?!
          2. 0
            29 August 2013 20: 25
            Dear term, to show the conditional, to stand in front of the American fleet and thus present an ultimatum, Americans understand the language of force with equal fight or with someone who can seriously answer!
            About Syria’s response and all the stupid Jews’ raids, but you didn’t think that they fired on dummies, and why did the Syrians answer Israel with heavy weapons to start a full-fledged war. Weapons are there, if they do not shoot, this does not mean that they are not there and they cannot fire, there are orders from the military department!
            But the cuckoo didn’t pump anything to me, maybe at 88 Americans seem to have escaped from the Black Sea, beaten up, by 2 of our guard ships smaller in displacement! About Churkin didn’t understand what you meant, first think and then write!
            Americans are jumping soon!
          3. 0
            30 August 2013 18: 34
            Quote: atalef
            or ..... bench press

            In a sense, it may be true at the moment!
            Definitely, who, who, but not Israel, is interested in peace in the Middle East.
            The unstable situation there can only be a danger to the citizens of your state, but the world, even the state itself and nuclear weapons will not save.
            It has long been said
            time to throw stones, and time to collect
            (Ecclesiastes 3: 5)
            What will you do when the time comes to pay the bills. And it will come, no doubt.
    5. artemiy
      +3
      27 August 2013 10: 00
      IRAN WILL FIGHT FOR ASAD !!! http://warfiles.ru/show-37320-iran-ugrozhaet-ssha-sereznymi-posledstviyami-v-slu

      chae-vtorzheniya-v-siriyu.html
      1. +1
        27 August 2013 21: 03
        Quote: artemiy
        IRAN WILL FIGHT FOR ASAD

        \
        Of course, only how, with what and where? You are on the Course that between Syria and Iran more than 1000 km
    6. Ruslan_F38
      +3
      27 August 2013 10: 04
      I hope the United States, England and their dogs wash their own blood.
      1. 0
        27 August 2013 10: 24
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        I hope the United States, England and their dogs wash their own blood.

        The problem is that they also shed a lot of blood.
    7. +1
      27 August 2013 10: 19
      Sadly, I hope the aggressors get a decent response ...
      1. +5
        27 August 2013 11: 58
        It seems that Syria will soon roll out like Libya.
        Our military and political leadership will once again "wash away". Shout for the sake of decency - "so low", and will not do anything real. The Yankees with the Saudis-Qataris, who should have already been shoved with money, scared someone.
        But in general, Syria 2013 is Spain 1938. Draw your own conclusions. Then in Spain, it was not possible to stop the spread of the fascist infection, but honestly tried. Now we play giveaways with the natofascists. It will end badly.
        A favorable scenario for the West is the pulling of Russia and China into the zone of created chaos, with the subsequent destruction as subjects of international law and dismemberment into amorphous quasi-states. An unfavorable scenario for the West is a world war, which becomes inevitable in any geopolitical situation by 2020-25.
        For Russia now it is necessary to use every opportunity to weaken its geopolitical opponents. Syria is one of the possibilities, how will we use it? - a big question!
        1. +6
          27 August 2013 12: 11
          said the same thing above - slammed 2 minus, you 1 plus ...

          probably people are lost from this news that they themselves do not know what to do ...
    8. +1
      27 August 2013 16: 16
      Quote: gud123
      The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!! angry
      Let’s see who sent whom and who will go. Before the G20 summit, they’re scary for GDP, we’ll see what he says. It’s too early to sprinkle ash on your head.
    9. 0
      27 August 2013 16: 27
      just spat in the face! Where is our authority ???
    10. Luger
      0
      27 August 2013 20: 15
      The people who have read or seen, or perhaps heard, or at worst think what will Iran do in the event of an attack on Syria?
      1) Will he rub off and wait until he arrives too?
      2) stir up a bunch of terrorist attacks in Israel and the United States?
      3) Will enter into open conflict?

      It seems to me that Syria is left face to face to solve its problems.
    11. Ruslan_F38
      0
      27 August 2013 22: 05
      Quote: gud123
      The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!! angry


      http://3mv.ru/publ/voennoe_stolknovenie_rossii_i_ssha_stanovitsja_neizbezhnym/1-
      1-0-18687


      http://3mv.ru/publ/zapakhlo_tretej_mirovoj/1-1-0-18695
    12. -1
      27 August 2013 22: 13
      It's time to start an operation to force the West to peace
    13. 0
      28 August 2013 00: 27
      what opinion if all the money in the west and all these dances are just to dust the brains of the people like everyone did what they could
      Quote: gud123
      The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!! angry
  2. +1
    27 August 2013 09: 02
    If you look hard, you can find "pearls" in a piece of shit. The fleet must be brought closer to the SAR, and diplomacy. Scream at all levels.
    1. +7
      27 August 2013 09: 13
      Quote: a52333
      The fleet needs to be adjusted closer to the ATS


      Already customized.
      A detachment of ships of the Pacific Fleet (PF), led by the guards missile cruiser Varyag, embarked on a long sea voyage, during which they will visit Australia and Vietnam,
      1. +1
        27 August 2013 09: 33
        This trip to Australia Varyaga was planned back in March wink . By the way, Moscow will join them in the campaign, which went around the world.
      2. RUSSIA 2013
        +4
        27 August 2013 09: 46
        It is necessary to strengthen the naval grouping, send additional fleet ships, strengthen air defense in Tartus, and more rigidly declare their position in Syria, Russia and China, remove all restrictions on the supply of heavy weapons.
        1. Grishka100watt
          0
          27 August 2013 11: 33
          remove all restrictions on the supply of heavy weapons.

          Yes? But nothing that block Syria from the sea? You recall the Caribbean crisis, where even the Soviet Union did not dare to break the sea blockade of Cuba?
          1. +1
            27 August 2013 15: 45
            Quote: Grishka100watt
            Yes? But nothing that block Syria from the sea? You recall the Caribbean crisis, where even the Soviet Union did not dare to break the sea blockade of Cuba?

            The blockade of the Island of Freedom BREAKTHROUGH by Soviet DPLs, of course, it must be said not always successfully, BUT attempts were made.
            And if there were nuclear submarines, then the "alignment" would be somewhat different.
            And we must pay tribute to the military, opposing the United States, the firmness of Cuba and Soviet diplomacy, which was able to "pull" from the confrontation the MAXIMUM of preferences for the USSR ...
        2. 0
          27 August 2013 18: 13
          God bless your words! Unfortunately there is nothing to strengthen, we will have to defend ourselves at the border, there will be many losses!
    2. +7
      27 August 2013 09: 36
      Quote: a52333
      . The fleet needs to be adjusted closer to the SAR, and diplomacy. Scream at all levels.

      The fleet will not do anything during air raids, especially since the amers have bases throughout the region. With regard to diplomacy, the amers put on the UN.
      1. +1
        27 August 2013 10: 13
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The fleet will not do anything during air raids,

        In this case, it is necessary to show the seriousness of intentions, to check, so to speak, the opponent for "lice".
        1. +1
          27 August 2013 10: 54
          Quote: ultra

          In this case, it is necessary to show the seriousness of intentions, to check, so to speak, the opponent for "lice".

          And if the opponent does not behave, then how will Russia look in the eyes of the whole world?
          1. 0
            27 August 2013 11: 52
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And if the opponent does not behave,

            Judging by the opponent, there is a high probability that he will behave!
            1. -1
              27 August 2013 13: 01
              Quote: ultra
              Judging by the opponent, there is a high probability that he will behave!

              Probability ...., well, goodbye hi
              1. +1
                27 August 2013 15: 11
                And diplomacy is always the art of the possible! bully
              2. +1
                27 August 2013 18: 16
                Our first dead ship marks the beginning of the war, and there we will see!
                1. -1
                  27 August 2013 18: 23
                  Quote: vostok68
                  Our first dead ship marks the beginning of the war, and there we will see!

                  It’s so right to spit on the forecast of events.
                  1. soldier's grandson
                    -1
                    27 August 2013 18: 35
                    Well, was Kursk, so what? Where is the war?
                  2. +1
                    27 August 2013 19: 01
                    And the forecast is not very good, but we are not used to it! Do you offer to give up?
                    1. -2
                      27 August 2013 19: 22
                      I propose first of all to include the head, and not ambition.
                      1. -1
                        28 August 2013 08: 04
                        Personally, I still see the ambitions of Syria's "friends" led by the United States. Russia, on the other hand, works under international contracts and does not offend anyone.
                2. 0
                  27 August 2013 19: 06
                  Our first dead ship marks the beginning of the war, and there we will see!
                  It is necessary to look before, and not destroy ships and sailors without a clear goal. This is a gamble.
        2. -2
          27 August 2013 11: 59
          Well, check it out. Do you want to spoil relations with other states amid the growing power of China on the borders of the Russian Federation?
          1. -1
            27 August 2013 13: 03
            Quote: Pimply
            amid the growing power of China on the borders of the Russian Federation?

            Eugene, you ride on the Far East and see for yourself. Besides you from St. Petersburg, they’re not there, they don’t see this. The Chinese don’t
            1. -2
              27 August 2013 13: 19
              Sash, look at the level of the Chinese army in recent times, at the general behavior of China, and at the borders. What to see? Armada on the border? And so, one of the most combat-ready Chinese armies there, is actively laying roads in the region.
              Of the seven military districts of China, the most powerful are the districts with headquarters in Beijing and Shenyang adjacent to the border with the Russian Federation (the first is oriented to the Siberian Military District of the RF Armed Forces, the second to the Far East). These districts account for 4 of 9 tank and 6 of 9 mechanized divisions, 6 of 12 tank brigades of the PLA ground forces. Another 2 armored divisions and 1 brigade are part of the district with headquarters in Lanzhou (occupies the western part of the country, oriented to Central Asia, Mongolia and Siberia west of Lake Baikal), and 1 armored, 1 mechanized divisions, 2 armored and the only mechanized in the PLA brigades are part of the Jinan District, which is located in the center of the country and is a strategic reserve for the Beijing, Shenyang, Lanzhou and Nanjing districts.
              1. +1
                27 August 2013 13: 34
                Quote: Pimply
                Armada on the border?

                They are not, do not stand not on our side.
                Quote: Pimply
                These districts account for 4 of 9 tank and 6 of 9 mechanized divisions,

                Hahaha, where are you going to rush into these hills wassat
                Once again, I tell you, the Chinese are smarter than amers.
                1. 0
                  27 August 2013 13: 39
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  They are not, do not stand not on our side.

                  Sasha, when the armadas are on the border - this is a declaration of war.

                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Once again, I tell you, the Chinese are smarter than amers.

                  Exactly. That is why they sharply build up their army, took away Africa, and actively gnaw off pieces from neighbors. And also I would recommend reading what they write about the Far East, and whose primordial territory it is considered.
                  1. +2
                    27 August 2013 15: 27
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Sasha, when the armadas are on the border - this is a declaration of war.

                    No, this is preparation for an invasion, a warrior. Now the military on both sides is withdrawn.
                    Quote: Pimply
                    . And also I would recommend reading what they write about the Far East, and whose primordial territory it is considered.

                    We also have enough Natsiks, just like in China. There is an official position of the Chinese authorities on this point. The United States is a real threat, although I understand it is an ally of Israel and Obama is also your own wink
                    1. -1
                      27 August 2013 16: 49
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      No, this is preparation for an invasion, a warrior. Now the military on both sides is withdrawn.

                      The troops at the border are, in fact, a declaration of war.
          2. +2
            27 August 2013 14: 15
            Pimpled (1) RU Today, 11:59 ↑

            Well, check it out. Do you want to spoil relations with other states amid the growing power of China on the borders of the Russian Federation?
            With what others? With whom do we have relationships that will deteriorate because of Syria? And with China we probably have the most friendly relations, except in the CU. And China, with all its might, does not behave like an elephant in a china shop.
            1. -1
              27 August 2013 14: 22
              Europe, Arab States, Turkey, USA
          3. +1
            27 August 2013 15: 13
            Quote: Pimply
            Do you want to spoil relations with other states amid the growing power of China on the borders of the Russian Federation?

            And if you don’t spoil, then they will harness for us, if that! lol
      2. +3
        27 August 2013 10: 59
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        With regard to diplomacy, the amers put on the UN.

        I will allow myself to practically repeat my comment on the "next branch" regarding the UN ...

        In the event of US aggression, Russia needs to temporarily suspend its membership in this "talking shop" because the UN, as a body called upon to resolve global issues, has completely exhausted itself.
        1. +2
          27 August 2013 11: 09
          Quote: Corsair
          In the event of US aggression, Russia needs to temporarily suspend its membership in this "talking shop" because the UN, as a body called upon to resolve global issues, has completely exhausted itself.

          Well this is something real.
          1. -1
            27 August 2013 12: 00
            Well, the real thing is not enough. Lose the tool of influence?
            1. +2
              27 August 2013 12: 33
              Quote: Pimply
              Well, the real thing is not enough. Lose the tool of influence?


              Now, at this very moment, try to influence the situation with the help of the "instrument" (UN) ...

              How do you imagine that????

              CALCULATE ONLY ON THIS:
              P / S: I hope this TOOL fits all the cogs of the world system ...
            2. +1
              27 August 2013 15: 24
              Quote: Pimply
              Lose the tool of influence?

              He won’t lose, he doesn’t work anyway.
              1. -1
                27 August 2013 16: 50
                Sasha, poorly poor - it works. Otherwise, there would have been horns and legs left from Syria
        2. Grishka100watt
          +3
          27 August 2013 11: 36
          In the event of US aggression, Russia needs to TEMPORARILY suspend its membership in this "talking shop" for the UN

          Then the UN will delay the return of Russia, and at this time, NATO will attack anyone it wants and when it wants, WITH UN SANCTION.
          Very clever.
          1. +2
            27 August 2013 12: 44
            Quote: Grishka100watt
            Then the UN will delay the return of Russia, and at this time, NATO will attack anyone it wants and when it wants, WITH UN SANCTION.
            Very clever.


            To you, personally, WHAT DIFFERENCE will be when they come to kill you? (Is there a sanction, isn’t it request )
            You see that for the USA no sanctions are needed ...
            And the UN is not able to influence them.
            A temporary, I’ll emphasize, exit will free Russia from a number of obligations binding her hands and give WILL OF ACTION.
            In addition, our country is perhaps the main source of funding for the UN ...
            1. -2
              27 August 2013 12: 55
              Of course. Now give out a full-fledged political and economic forecast on the situation. Forward.
              1. 0
                27 August 2013 13: 04
                Quote: Pimply
                Of course. Now give out a full-fledged political and economic forecast on the situation. Forward.


                And here you yourself, "train your brains"!
                1. -2
                  27 August 2013 13: 20
                  Well, you offer hats. I have already pondered, and I perfectly imagine the situation. I would like to hear arguments for, and, accordingly, an analysis of the situation.
                  1. +4
                    27 August 2013 13: 31
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Well, you offer hats. I have already pondered, and I perfectly imagine the situation. I would like to hear arguments for, and, accordingly, an analysis of the situation.


                    I ask you not to "Poke", and study the UN Charter, and IF it is fulfilled THEN YOUR TRUTH ...
                    1. -1
                      27 August 2013 13: 40
                      I read. And I ask - what exactly will help Russia exit from the UN. Yes, at the same time describe the cons, not just the pros.
                      1. +2
                        27 August 2013 14: 22
                        Quote: Corsair
                        A temporary, I’ll emphasize, exit will free Russia from a number of obligations binding her hands and give WILL OF ACTION.
                        In addition, our country is perhaps the main source of funding for the UN ...


                        I will not list ALL the agreements connecting Russia; a person who wants to delve into the situation of CAM will find information and analyze it.
                        I repeat the leash briefly: Russia’s hands will be untied, and it will be able to act without being constrained by any restrictions (including the supply of arms to Iran, Syria ... but who knows who else.)
          2. +1
            27 August 2013 13: 06
            Quote: Grishka100watt
            Then the UN will delay the reverse adoption of Russia

            And if we get out of there, why should we climb back there?
            Quote: Grishka100watt
            and at this time, NATO will attack anyone it wants and when it wants,

            But what does it do, only threatens yes? And what's the difference, is there a sanction or not, when countries turn into dust.
            Quote: Grishka100watt
            Very clever.

            Well, well, full of you, do not be so self-critical.
        3. -1
          27 August 2013 11: 59
          Brilliantly. And now - what will such a move give?
          1. +4
            27 August 2013 13: 07
            Quote: Pimply
            Brilliantly. And now - what will such a move give?

            Many people know that without Russia, the UN has nothing to do. Build your system on the basis of law. The UN, like the League of Nations, is coming to an end
            1. 0
              27 August 2013 13: 25
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Many people know that without Russia, the UN has nothing to do. Build your system on the basis of law. The UN, like the League of Nations, is coming to an end


              Extract from the UN Charter:

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              1. +2
                27 August 2013 13: 28
                Quote: Corsair
                Extract from the UN Charter:

                Tear yes throw it away
                1. +3
                  27 August 2013 13: 41
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Tear yes throw it away


                  I'm about the same, the system does not work request
                  1. -3
                    27 August 2013 13: 51
                    Works. The UN is a deliberative body where countries try to promote their opinions.
                    1. +1
                      27 August 2013 16: 31
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Works. The UN is a deliberative body where countries try to promote their opinions.


                      Will they "meet" after the first volleys?
                      1. -2
                        27 August 2013 16: 51
                        And after the second, and after the third.
                    2. +2
                      27 August 2013 16: 50
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Works. The UN is a deliberative body where countries try to promote their opinions.


                      Britain will not be guided by the opinion of the UN Security Council in resolving the Syrian issue, reports Reuters.

                      This statement was made by British Foreign Secretary William Hague, adding that this position was due to the fact that the countries represented in the Security Council did not show unanimity when it became known about the chemical attack.

                      Earlier it was reported that Turkey will support any action against the Assad regime.

                      We are conferring wink ?

                      http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2013/08/26/n_3136877.shtml
                      1. -7
                        27 August 2013 17: 04
                        Quote: Corsair

                        Britain will not be guided by the opinion of the UN Security Council in resolving the Syrian issue, reports Reuters.

                        Correctly. Country member of the Security Council can afford it
              2. +1
                27 August 2013 13: 36
                Sorry, without Article1 of the Charter, the comment is not complete enough ...

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        4. 0
          27 August 2013 21: 08
          Quote: Corsair
          In the event of US aggression, Russia needs to temporarily suspend its membership in this "talking shop" because the UN, as a body called upon to resolve global issues, has completely exhausted itself.


          And nervously smoking aside? What about the alternative? Watch how some Vunautu votes and decides the fate of the world?
      3. 0
        27 August 2013 13: 28
        Alexander Romanov (1) RU Today, 09: 36 ↑

        Quote: a52333
        . The fleet needs to be adjusted closer to the SAR, and diplomacy. Scream at all levels.

        The fleet will not do anything during air raids, especially since the amers have bases throughout the region. With regard to diplomacy, the amers put on the UN.
        I agree that the fleet will not decide much, Amer bases throughout the region, but I disagree about diplomacy, or rather not even diplomacy, but propaganda. Although, of course, the Yankees have long, by and large, put on the UN, but they do not care how they will look in the eyes of the whole world and their voters. They still calculate the consequences and look at the reaction of the world after their "statements" They definitely need "white clothes of a peacemaker" , therefore, it is necessary to prepare the WORLD for bombardments to the maximum. It is necessary to prove the "chemical attack" or to "push" the UN commission out of Syria, and even better one or two more provocations with screams about "crossing the red line"
      4. 0
        28 August 2013 07: 57
        Alexander, I’m not a strategist and far from the specialists of the General Staff. If, for example, several of our ships stand next to American groups and simply merge the ATS, what is going on on them? Will jam jam EW ?! Well, we can do it the same way, and we can clog them with ether. Of course, they and we are not capable of open aggression against each other, because this will lead to a worldwide catastrophe.
  3. +6
    27 August 2013 09: 02
    So the real manager of most countries has been revealed. And this narrow-eyed chairman should bear the name Pound
  4. +7
    27 August 2013 09: 02
    "Washington accused Bashar al-Assad in absentia of using prohibited weapons. The White House allegedly has irrefutable evidence."

    For Washington, the irrefutable proof is to shake a test tube with troubled water in front of reporters at a press conference.
    1. +6
      27 August 2013 09: 37
      Quote: Vladimirets

      Irrefutable evidence for Washington

      For Washington, irrefutable evidence is the one they themselves invented.
    2. +5
      27 August 2013 09: 58
      Quote: Vladimirets
      For Washington, the irrefutable proof is to shake a test tube with muddy water

      Sergey, hi ! Well, something like this all of this looks like this - US authorities plan to publish a declassified report on evidence of the use of chemical weapons in Syria within one to two days, according to senior officials from the US administration.
      In particular, it is reported that this topic was discussed at the President's Saturday meeting with members of the administration dealing with national security issues. "Obama has instructed to prepare a declassified report for public distribution before any military action is undertaken.
      So, within two days, determine, make public, Assign guilty and punish. At the same time, an interesting infa appeared in the media: New exposure of the CIA. Foreign Policy writes that US authorities helped Saddam Hussein use chemical weapons against Iran. According to the magazine, Washington told the regime the location of the Iranian troops, and Hussein used nerve-gas - sarin against them. Otherwise, Iranian troops would have broken through to Baghdad. Journalists say the United States condoned Iraq’s chemical attacks. Now they are violently opposing chemical weapons in Syria and are threatening military intervention. There are no longer double, triple standards.
      1. +5
        27 August 2013 10: 18
        Quote: Tersky
        Sergei, !

        Victor, hi Thanks for Sergey. smile
        Quote: Tersky
        US authorities plan to publish a declassified report on evidence of the use of chemical weapons in Syria within one to two days,

        After all, professionals, a couple of days have passed since the moment of the chemical attack, and they have already done everything. I would not be surprised if tomorrow Al-Jazeera will show a plot where a soldier with an inscription on his half-back "Syrian army" and a tattoo on his arm "I love Assad" sprays some rubbish among children by hand, and all this "absolutely by accident" will be filmed on a professional video camera.
        1. +3
          27 August 2013 11: 56
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Victor, thanks for Sergey

          Eugene feel , I'm sorry for baptizing Sergey, the site has so much information laid out that my head is spinning laughing
          1. +1
            27 August 2013 12: 30
            Quote: Tersky
            sorry for baptizing in Sergey,

            drinks
  5. Veles25
    +4
    27 August 2013 09: 02
    .............
    1. Ruslan_F38
      +1
      27 August 2013 10: 29
      Lavrov at least did not need to say that Russia would not fight over Syria, even if the whole world would have wondered and thought, and if Russia really enters the war - and you will agree, this is a strong deterrent to NATO, isn’t it? Think a hundred times before attacking.
      Lavrov had to be told that Russia would give an adequate answer, not excluding military intervention - the United States and their dogs would be in a stupor for any and will think a thousand times before bombing.
  6. +13
    27 August 2013 09: 04
    It is not known who is worse, Hitler or a pack of democrats from the USA
    1. Guun
      +5
      27 August 2013 09: 19
      From one field a berry
    2. +9
      27 August 2013 09: 38
      Quote: Clever man
      Hitler or a pack of democrats from the USA

      I do not see the difference
      1. -2
        27 August 2013 12: 02
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I do not see the difference

        And this is bad, Sash, that you don’t see. Because the difference is significant.
        The US acts like any superpower pursuing its interests. The USSR acted exactly the same when it wanted to. Prague, Hungary, Afghanistan, etc.

        Hitler had other goals and objectives.
        1. +5
          27 August 2013 13: 10
          Quote: Pimply
          US acts like any superpower

          Germany also acted like any superpower wink
          Quote: Pimply
          The USSR acted in the same way

          Something I do not remember, what would the USSR bomb on the right and on the left.
          Quote: Pimply
          Hitler had other goals and objectives.

          New world order and supremacy in the world. The only thing is that Hitler didn’t lie so hard as the amers do. The essence is also enslavement and subjugation or destruction.
        2. +1
          27 August 2013 22: 57
          I would agree with you if they would achieve the ultimate goals of interests, and so Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya are everywhere chaos and confusion. I do not think that it is in their interests, that there is a lot of thoughtless and not calculated in their actions, a lot of mistakes unforgivable for a superpower. If all this is not a single plan as a whole.
  7. +1
    27 August 2013 09: 04
    But it’s interesting then one of the experts will shoot himself as was the case with Iraq or not?
  8. -1
    27 August 2013 09: 07
    Quote: a52333
    The fleet needs to be adjusted closer to the ATS

    where he will be torpedoed by "erroneous actions of the submarine personnel. the perpetrators will be punished" :-)
  9. +5
    27 August 2013 09: 08
    US authorities promise in the coming days to publish a report on the use of chemical weapons in Syria. The corresponding order was signed by the head of the White House, Barack Obama

    The report will be something like this.
    1. +3
      27 August 2013 09: 17
      greetings to all hi

      military situation around Syria
      1. +2
        27 August 2013 09: 38
        So far, the forces are very limited.

        In general, with the British and the sub-melting there will be a maximum of 350-400 axes. Without AUG, only basic aviation consisting of the British Air Force Tornado, Mirage-2000 and the French Air Force Rafale, IS squadrons from Kuwait and then Iraq is closed, you will have to make a circle through CA and Jordan.

        Well, perhaps the Turks will fully fit in.

        Simply, the goals are unclear to smash all the XO storage facilities, launch missiles, shoot at Damascus, etc. - that's enough. However, to ensure a turning point in the war and a relatively quick victory for the opposition (Nezavisimaya Gazeta-Vesna), this is extremely small.
        1. +6
          27 August 2013 09: 49
          Quote: donavi49
          So far, the forces are very limited.

          The second day, write the same thing, count the total number of aircraft + Turks, Saudis, a bunch of American bases throughout the region. + Israel.
          Quote: donavi49
          Just unclear goals

          Goal one is Assad
          1. +4
            27 August 2013 09: 57
            Turks hike and will bear the main burden after the removal of air defense. The United States will withdraw, but Tornado, Mirages and Rafaley will again be sent along the squadron.

            Goal one is Assad


            Muammar, having 1,5 brigades, a battalion of mercenaries, kept on an even and convenient territory for the Air Force for as many as 8 months before he was captured. Syria is more banal, the army is larger, the terrain is more complicated, and knocking out tanks in ruined cities is not so simple, even for guided weapons.
            1. +1
              27 August 2013 10: 05
              Quote: donavi49
              Turks hike and will bear the main burden after the removal of air defense. The United States will withdraw, but Tornado, Mirages and Rafaley will again be sent along the squadron.

              Well, yes, the Amers aren’t planning to dump everything after a couple of blows. They will be hollowing to the fullest. They drove quite a few planes to ground bases.
              1. +3
                27 August 2013 10: 22
                It was also in Libya, and who was the first to jump off? They do not really fly planes, only to Kuwait. Here are the shaving ones; they transfer Tornadoes and C-130 to their base on the islands in SM. The French have not yet been seen anywhere.
                1. +2
                  27 August 2013 11: 12
                  Quote: donavi49
                  It was also in Libya, and who was the first to jump off?

                  You seem to be forgotten, but in Libya, amers around the world said that they play a secondary role and the NATO countries played the main violin. Both in words and, as it turned out in practice. Now amers rule
                  Quote: donavi49
                  They do not really fly planes, only to Kuwait. Here are the shaving ones; they transfer Tornado and S-130 to their base on the islands in SM. The French have not yet been seen anywhere.

                  So you judge by the number of news headlines? Well, look for an early info, where what and how much.
                  1. 0
                    27 August 2013 12: 18
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Now amers rule

                    I would not say. Rather, they are trying not to fall off the train.
                    1. +1
                      27 August 2013 13: 11
                      Quote: Pimply
                      I would not say. Rather, they are trying not to fall off the train.

                      Zhenya, are you tired of blocking the ally?
                      1. +3
                        27 August 2013 13: 22
                        The US is not my ally. I just assess the situation more soberly, Sash, due to the fact that I am better acquainted with the realities there. And they are like that - Qatar and Saudi Arabia play the first fiddle, Turks and Europe play the second echelon. USA habitually tries to play the first violin. But the trouble does not come out.
              2. 0
                28 August 2013 06: 37
                It seems to me that it will be difficult for them to jump over the sequestration. The main thing for them to start is, and then let the Allies spend on the bombing.
            2. 0
              27 August 2013 19: 31
              just look at the photo in the article. You see the technical situation. There’s no time for repairs. For two and a half years of active hostilities, the army has already suffered significant losses, especially the army’s elite-BTV. Aviation and air defense also have losses. vast territories are not controlled. Westerners will not even bring in ground forces. Immediately after the shelling, tens of thousands of U.S. militants and jihadists will rush in to storm the destroyed strong points. All this will last a maximum week.
          2. 0
            27 August 2013 12: 03
            Do not enter Israel. Israel does not need this. In addition, then automatically exclude Turkey and the Arab countries.
            1. +1
              27 August 2013 13: 12
              Quote: Pimply
              Israel do not enter

              And yes, Israel did not bomb or accuse Syria of a chemical attack wink
              Quote: Pimply
              In addition, then automatically exclude Turkey and the Arab countries.

              Aha laughing
              1. +1
                27 August 2013 13: 23
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                And yes, Israel did not bomb or accuse Syria of a chemical attack

                Sasha, this is not a bombing. This is a point strike, a warning. The bombing is something completely different.
                1. 0
                  27 August 2013 13: 26
                  Quote: Pimply

                  Sasha, this is not a bombing. This is a point hit

                  Are you kidding me sitting there?
                  1. 0
                    27 August 2013 13: 42
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov

                    Are you kidding me sitting there?

                    No, Sash, I am stating a fact. You just didn’t see the results of the bombing.
                  2. +2
                    27 August 2013 16: 51
                    Either I'm wrong, or he is a Jew! God allows them everything, there is nothing holy!
                    1. 0
                      27 August 2013 17: 05
                      Quote: vostok68
                      God allows them everything, there is nothing holy!

                      My friend, do you know that Gd is alone? ;)
                      1. +3
                        27 August 2013 18: 30
                        Do you believe in God? and I’m not your friend, kindly contact you, as I appeal to you in messages!
                      2. -2
                        27 August 2013 18: 42
                        Quote: vostok68
                        how I appeal to you in messages!

                        The appeal to you must be earned.
                      3. 0
                        28 August 2013 06: 50
                        Is there too much pomp and familiarity ?! Who are you to determine who deserves what ?! Moderator ?! Judge of the people's court ?! God?!
                        "Keep it simple and people will be drawn to you." And then talking with your dog will sooner or later get bored with you.
                      4. +3
                        27 August 2013 18: 34
                        Do you believe in God? And I’m not your friend, be so kind as to contact you, as I turn to you in messages!
        2. series
          +2
          27 August 2013 10: 38
          By suppressing the Syrian air defense systems and attack tactical missile systems, they will introduce a "no-fly zone" for the aviation of Israel, Turkey and others. Further, according to the run-in scenario.
          Most likely, they will not bomb the chemical weapons storage facilities in order not to poison the Jews.
          Of course, they want to physically destroy Assad ...
        3. 0
          27 August 2013 11: 12
          Quote: donavi49
          only basic aviation consisting of the British Air Force Tornado, Mirage 2000 and the French Air Force Rafale, IS squadrons from Kuwait and then Iraq is closed, will have to make a circle through CA and Jordan.


          Do not go to the fortuneteller, Obama will also tie Israel. And this is no longer a weak air fleet and airfields. Looks like Obama took this into account initially ...
          1. +3
            27 August 2013 12: 22
            Will not knit. This is an automatic loss of Turkey and the Arab countries, as well as the loyalty of the Syrian opposition.
          2. +2
            27 August 2013 13: 13
            Quote: Neksel

            Do not go to the fortuneteller, Obama will also tie Israel.

            Of course she’ll get involved, Syria will just hit Israel, that's all
            1. -1
              27 August 2013 14: 36
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Syria will just hit Israel that's all


              Does Assad need it? type 2 front ...
              I think it will react against Israel, but not directly, so that it will not be substituted, but through Hezbollah or some other “holy martyr's front” like Ahmad Jibril.
          3. RUS-36
            0
            31 August 2013 00: 06
            ".... Obama will knit Israel too ..."
            Even a schoolboy knows that Obama is a pawn on the "playing board" of Israel, check out the composition of advisers and other people around Obama, some Jews, the business elite of the United States, Jews. So, do not drive a blizzard. Israel has long controlled the United States, and certainly not vice versa.
      2. +1
        27 August 2013 09: 40
        Quote: Apollon
        military situation around Syria

        Hi Apollo! This is not all, in Cyprus, Sicily, Greece, Qatar and hell knows where, a bunch of planes. + Angles, French, Turks and the rest of Shushara.
        1. +1
          27 August 2013 10: 16
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Hi Apollo

          Good afternoon Alexander hi
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          That's not all, in Cyprus, Sicily, Greece, Qatar and hell knows where, a bunch of planes

          here is fresh info
          At the British base in Cyprus marked activity of military aircraft
          In the British sovereign base area of ​​Akrotiri in Cyprus noted increased activity of military aircraft amid growing tensions around Syria wracked by internal conflict, said on Tuesday the London newspaper Guardian.
          more details http://vz.ru/news/2013/8/27/647276.html
          1. +2
            27 August 2013 11: 13
            Quote: Apollon
            At the British base in Cyprus marked activity of military aircraft

            Yes, it is the British who drive it closer.
  10. soldier's grandson
    +2
    27 August 2013 09: 16
    how many screams were about the fact that Syria would not give offense to GDP, they surrendered almost like Libya
    1. series
      +6
      27 August 2013 09: 27
      The intervention has not yet begun, so there is no need for tantrums!
      We will not fight, there are enough Iranian military with their missile arsenal. Their hands have been itching for Israel for a long time ...
      1. -1
        27 August 2013 19: 34
        Iran’s missile arsenal consists of painted scopes.
        1. 0
          28 August 2013 06: 57
          Hydrocarbon production in Iran is greater than in Azerbaijan. Do not you think that they can afford no less than Azerbaijan?
    2. +1
      27 August 2013 09: 42
      Quote: Soldier's grandson
      how many screams were about the fact that Syria would not give offense to GDP, they surrendered almost like Libya

      You got a plus from Amer, wait for the award and from Obama wink Only here you bury Syria early
      1. soldier's grandson
        0
        27 August 2013 09: 53
        we have been losing ground for more than 20 years, not a single rock has been defended
        1. 0
          27 August 2013 09: 55
          Quote: Soldier's grandson
          we have been losing ground for more than 20 years, not a single rock has been defended

          Aha, so do we start a warrior from the USA or what?
          1. soldier's grandson
            -1
            27 August 2013 10: 01
            minus the truth?
            1. 0
              27 August 2013 10: 26
              Quote: Soldier's grandson
              minus the truth?

              No, just returning. And I didn’t see the truth, except for
    3. 0
      27 August 2013 10: 41
      but not quite, all the same, we helped them with weapons and I think it’s not bad, and advisers still don’t just sit there, when the mess begins it will be clear that we delivered them, and of course it’s recklessness to enter into an open conflict
  11. solomon
    +2
    27 August 2013 09: 18
    Washington accused Bashar al-Assad of using illegal weapons in absentia

    President Obama Sure: Forgiveness Cannot Be Forgiven

    And from the warble, the charges are already showing the convict without trial or investigation.
  12. Vlad_Mir
    +1
    27 August 2013 09: 21
    Really just merge again ?!
    1. +9
      27 August 2013 09: 27
      Well, if you merge, I’m directly ashamed to be called Russian ....
      1. +2
        27 August 2013 09: 43
        Quote: Vodrak
        Well, if you merge, I’m directly ashamed to be called Russian ...

        What are you chewing here? Sit, specifically, what can Russia do now ??? There are a lot of smart strategists
        1. Guun
          +1
          27 August 2013 10: 40
          Many people think that sending the Russian Navy to the shores of Syria will be correct and not thinking that you can thereby get into the enemy’s ring - the map shows that Syria is surrounded by the military bases of Friends of Syria and in case of war from the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean there will be no ship left (it’s too hard not equal). And the chance of losing any ship of the Russian Navy is unacceptable. We have every ship counted. First, let's see what Iran will do, and not the fact that the war will begin.
  13. +15
    27 August 2013 09: 22
    The question is what will prevent in 10-15 years from building a coalition against Russia? using their plan of a landslide strike (6-7 large states may well do this) against the nuclear facilities of our country and impose dermocracy with the new Navalny there? And again, our politicians have a thin gut in response to a nuclear fuck .... If we don’t intervene the price of our policy is worthless, we just want to show off .... we don’t want to agree with people who say that we are nothing ...
    Ps It is very disappointing for our country, there was at least some hope that we will restore our international authority, and in the case :(
    1. 0
      28 August 2013 07: 06
      An atomic strike on nuclear facilities ?! How do you imagine that?! We have many such objects in the depths of Russia, and to try to cover them and are not afraid to get returns, you need to be Hitler or Napoleon.
  14. +10
    27 August 2013 09: 23
    In 1999, militants in Chechnya near Grozny blew up chlorine containers. Hmm, where the UN commission was and I don’t remember the hysterical screams about the use of chemical weapons and the proposal of the "world community" to punish the guilty, that is, the gangster Basayev-Khattab gang.
    One thing is of interest - when and who will be able to stop this chaos, when the hypocritical Washington shobla will tear apart independent countries to shreds. In 1986, the call of a Soviet cruiser to the port of Tripoli stopped the aggression against Libya. There is no one else to calm the world gopniks.
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 15: 59
      Quote: Prometey
      In 1999, militants in Chechnya near Grozny blew up chlorine containers. Hmm, where the UN commission was and I don’t remember the hysterical screams about the use of chemical weapons and the proposal of the "world community" to punish the guilty, that is, the gangster Basayev-Khattab gang.
      One thing is of interest - when and who will be able to stop this chaos, when the hypocritical Washington shobla will tear apart independent countries to shreds. In 1986, the call of a Soviet cruiser to the port of Tripoli stopped the aggression against Libya. There is no one else to calm the world gopniks.


      How many hysteria were there in the press, both in the Western and in "our liberal" ...
      But then the amers from NATO were afraid to crawl into us, into our internal affairs, remembering about "Kuzkina Mother" ...
  15. +5
    27 August 2013 09: 31
    The war has not yet begun, and judging by the comments, we have already surrendered ... Loud words are of course important, especially when such important people speak them, but in order to fight it is necessary to concentrate troops, in our case a ship group ... is it all the time during which our "Syrian Express" has time to make how many flights? And what will he get there? And how can the situation change during this time, in the same Turkish Kurdistan ... It's too early to bury Syria.
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 09: 47
      Look at the conference of Lavrov .... not a single statement in defense of Syria, everything about opinions, promises, balabolit ... ZERO of real actions, and this is a person who directly expresses the opinion of our country in the political arena! We have many Russians living in Syria and there are our military base (everyone forgot about it? is it actually the territory of Russia) did they put the S-300? and the Americans are pulling troops from Jordan to the extension of the fleet and the British are being pulled in, then the French, etc.
      ps What prevents the creation of an air defense system? Carapace + s-300 and ground cover for their positions.
      1. +2
        27 August 2013 10: 00
        Quote: Xroft
        What prevents to create an air defense system? Carapace + c-300 and ground cover for their positions.

        There are few real violent, and there are no leaders !!! (with)
        The lack of trained personnel interferes.
      2. +3
        27 August 2013 10: 23
        Quote: Xroft
        ps What prevents the creation of an air defense system? Carapace + c-300 and ground cover for their positions
        Excessive noise interferes ... Now we need to quickly but quietly carry out this operation or something similar, so that the "interventionists" show not a "myth", but a real threat - this will cool the ardor more ...
  16. +12
    27 August 2013 09: 32
    Quote: Karavan
    I thought, it turns out, in the Mediterranean now only 5 of our BDKs are. The main forces of the Black Sea Fleet drove off to Venezuela, Pacific Fleet gather with a trip to Australia ... no brains or what?

    And who said that these ships just go back and forth ... the strategy should not be seen like an egg in the palm of your hand, so it is premature to talk about "brains" .. Sincerely! hi
  17. +5
    27 August 2013 09: 36
    Putin’s daughter lives in Holland, what kind of opposition can there be from the West, a simple example and that’s all, I’m not talking about nestles scattered across all European banks ... For me it’s been clear for a long time that we are walking in the wake of American politics, as Gorbachev passed the country that’s how national humiliation continues in the international arena
    1. +1
      27 August 2013 09: 50
      Quote: Isk1984
      Putin's daughter lives in Holland

      Putin told you wink
      1. +4
        27 August 2013 09: 57
        Well, actually the fact is not hidden, I didn’t tell me personally))), But you have to stop protecting it everywhere and everywhere, otherwise Serdyukov turns out to be a bastard and a thief, and the person who appointed him and covers him is white and fluffy ....
        1. +4
          27 August 2013 10: 29
          Quote: Isk1984
          Well, actually the fact is not hidden,

          If you raise the whole press, you will find out that his daughters live in France, England, the USA, Germany, Spain, South Korea. They marry one, purely for foreigners, the youngest even for Algeria rushed laughing
          Quote: Isk1984
          And it’s time for you to stop protecting him everywhere and everywhere, otherwise Serdyukov turns out to be a bastard and a thief, and the person who appointed him and covers him is white and fluffy ....

          Yes, I do not consider him white and fluffy, an ordinary person, like everyone else, only works as president. But, now he is the head of state and I proceed from this hi
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        3. +5
          27 August 2013 11: 43
          but I remember that in a recent interview he said that his children grew up, studied and live in Russia
        4. +1
          27 August 2013 12: 53
          Quote: Isk1984
          And it’s time for you to stop protecting him everywhere and everywhere, otherwise Serdyukov turns out to be a bastard and a thief, and the person who appointed him and covers him is white and fluffy ....
          Alas, he is as he is and there are no other peers yet ... But only the Pope is sinless from people, and even more so in words. am
        5. 0
          28 August 2013 07: 12
          The Lord God made a mistake with Judah, and Putin is a simple man.
          About his daughter, you say, how is his brother-in-law? Or are the next news on Alyosha Navalny’s blog keeping you awake?
    2. 0
      27 August 2013 12: 52
      Quote: Isk1984
      Putin’s daughter lives in Holland, what kind of opposition can there be from the West,
      You see, in a couple of years United Russia will win the elections to the Dutch parliament ... That will be the focus. bully
  18. RA77
    +3
    27 August 2013 09: 37
    It’s sad to look at all this. Especially how Russia behaves. It is understood that the weight categories are different with the USA, and there are also allies. But I still hope that Russia will nevertheless do something, that there is still a chance to stop this chaos.
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 09: 51
      Quote: RA77
      But I still hope that Russia will do something,

      What can be done?
      1. +2
        27 August 2013 10: 19
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What can be done?


        Peaceful "Yakhont"
        Russia may still affect the situation around Syria
        Although a decision on Syria’s foreign intervention has not yet been made, it seems that the time to start it is estimated at weeks at best. Moreover, even in the time remaining before the invasion, Russia still has the opportunity to influence the course of events - for example, by additional deliveries of Yakhont anti-ship missiles to Syria.
        http://vz.ru//world/2013/8/27/647242.html
        1. +3
          27 August 2013 11: 17
          Quote: Apollon
          additional deliveries of the Yakhont anti-ship missiles to Syria.

          Apollo, what will it change? Destroyers will strike from a greater distance.
        2. 0
          27 August 2013 11: 50
          Quote: Apollon
          Moreover, even in the time remaining before the invasion, Russia still has the opportunity to influence the course of events - for example, by additional deliveries of Yakhont anti-ship missiles to Syria.


          I will give an excerpt fromWikipedia (at least more than once already on "her" "burned" laughing , but the article on YAHONT is accurate):

          "Yakhont" - Soviet / Russian universal medium-range anti-ship missile, designed to combat surface naval groupings and single ships in conditions of strong fire and electronic countermeasures.

          In addition, it can also be used against ground targets, in this embodiment, the target range can be increased several times, compared with the standard 300 km in the anti-ship version.

          And thus, the SAR Armed Forces will be able to use "Bastion" only against ground targets, the naval groupings of the US Navy and "satellites" WILL NOT enter the affected area, "shooting" Syria from a safe distance for them.

          And one can only hope that the developers of the complex have put into it SOMETHING that can "surprise" the Americans ...

          And we wish Syria, even a peaceful sky (although in a situation of long-standing intervention, it looks somehow ... request )
        3. 0
          27 August 2013 12: 23
          Vaccination from a severed leg?
      2. RA77
        +2
        27 August 2013 11: 33
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What can be done?

        I do not know! I dont know. But I hope so. In the end, all these politicians, in their connection, inform the opposite side of their intentions in advance. And plus intelligence is. So Putin should have known what was up to and sought countermeasures. In the situation with Syria, after all, Russia behaved differently than it did with Libya. The matter was no longer limited only to the word of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the veto in the UN Security Council. Russia also threatened with arms that it would defend in a serious way (the fleet went to the Syrian shores, exercises were held). I don’t think Putin would have been blown away like that after that. If you pull out a gun showing someone your intentions, and as soon as it comes to a fight you are afraid to use it, then who are you after that? Putin, the cat in every possible way demonstrates that he is a man, must understand this.
        Hope dies last.
      3. series
        0
        27 August 2013 11: 44
        could have been surgery "Caucasus"...
        but it seems we will limit ourselves to military-technical support
        Judo philosophy involves the displacement of the enemy's force vector in a direction unfavorable for him ...
      4. 0
        27 August 2013 13: 22
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What can be done?
        Well, at least start by saying that Russia will not remain indifferent to the invasion or any other action against Syria, until Assad’s guilt in those crimes is actually proven, because UN experts are working there now. So far, the point is to deliver the C300 and TOR air defense systems, as well as ground-based anti-ship missiles ...
    2. 77bor1973
      +3
      27 August 2013 09: 52
      Check the bastards how far we can go and what our nerves are.
      1. +4
        27 August 2013 09: 57
        Quote: 77bor1973
        Check the bastards how far we can go and what our nerves are

        Yes, they are not testing us, but they are testing the possibility of their missile defense, before attacking Iran, a rehearsal for Israel.
  19. +2
    27 August 2013 09: 40
    don’t get excited, I think ours will not allow the invasion to start, it’s just that everything is being solved differently in the world, we don’t see this, and the one who speaks big words to the whole world really doesn’t solve anything (Ban Ki-moon, for example)
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 09: 51
      Quote: kot11180
      Do not get excited, I think ours will not allow the invasion to begin,

      How so?
      1. +7
        27 August 2013 10: 09
        how is Russia still alive? only thanks to our indignation on the site?
        1. soldier's grandson
          -9
          27 August 2013 10: 17
          thanks to the fact that we are a colony
          1. +2
            27 August 2013 10: 33
            I do not feel in a colony
            1. soldier's grandson
              -2
              27 August 2013 18: 37
              because you are already used to
          2. -1
            28 August 2013 07: 19
            Why such an illumination of consciousness ?!
            1. soldier's grandson
              -1
              28 August 2013 08: 26
              So the GDP at Seliger hinted about it, and other normal people used to talk about it before, and our stabilization fund is stored in the USA, the gold mined goes to foreign banks and not ours, is that enough?
              1. -1
                28 August 2013 10: 11
                For some reason, I'm not surprised that you draw your sacred meaning from Putin's usual phrases. If now we arrange a vote here on the question "Is Russia a US colony?" and most of the answers will be "no", then you want to say that all the voted so abnormal people?
                The stabilization fund is kept in the USA ?! Where do you suggest placing it? Papua New Guinea?! Israel?! United Kingdom?! You would take a look who in addition to Russia holds reserves in the USA. Do you think the leaders of these countries are economically illiterate people?
        2. +1
          27 August 2013 10: 30
          Quote: kot11180
          how is Russia still alive?

          You did not answer
          1. +1
            27 August 2013 11: 46
            this is an exhaustive answer, by chance nothing happens in the world, if Russia is alive, then someone didn’t let it be destroyed (my opinion is Putin), he just don’t shout about it, he doesn’t call to arm ourselves, "kill amers", etc.
          2. soldier's grandson
            -5
            27 August 2013 17: 03
            we have long been a colony of the west
            1. +2
              27 August 2013 22: 10
              you are a colony and Russia is not
            2. -1
              28 August 2013 07: 22
              Forced labor ?! Who told you this ?! Obama from a neighboring house ?!
              1. soldier's grandson
                +1
                28 August 2013 08: 33
                don’t be stupid, I wonder how people are bombed
                1. -1
                  28 August 2013 09: 42
                  it turns out that you are surprised at yourself, stop being zombied
              2. soldier's grandson
                0
                28 August 2013 10: 39
                yes, your roommate told me about this number 31231
  20. rodevaan
    +6
    27 August 2013 09: 59
    Military operation in Syria may begin in the coming days

    - I think it is not necessary to say that it would be if there were no vigorous bomb and rearmament ....
    A strong army and navy are the guarantee of a clear blue sky over the Russian people.
  21. +4
    27 August 2013 10: 01
    Nothing in the world can be solved otherwise, as it was decided by a healthy club 10000 years ago, and right now that diplomat is looming behind, the power of the fleet and the Air Force ... and the Amers constantly demonstrate this to us, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya. .. the scenario is one and worked out ...
    1. 0
      28 August 2013 07: 26
      They demonstrated this in Korea and Vietnam, then what ?! Another increase in public debt and additional hostility to a large part of planet Earth?
  22. 0
    27 August 2013 10: 02
    Russia does not have enough rhetoric about the inadmissibility of a military resolution of the conflict, etc. I hope that Syria will receive the support of the Russian Federation sufficient to prevent intervention.
  23. 0
    27 August 2013 10: 02
    The UN Commission has not yet figured out the use of chemical weapons in Syria, and the US has already been attacked by "scabies". bully
  24. Batkamahno
    +2
    27 August 2013 10: 06
    Hmm. Now we need to drive the fleet not to Syria, but to the coast of Florida)))) As they say One submarine with a BR near the coast of America is a guarantee of the absence of American aircraft in Syria. It seems like the Black Sea Fleet is visiting Venezuela)))))
  25. Guun
    +5
    27 August 2013 10: 06
    Let's see what will happen next. Enemies have already flown the floor of aviation closer to the borders of Syria, and as for V.V. Putin, he is a difficult guy and I hope that he is already doing something to save Syria from democratization. After all, V.V. Putin is called the Dictator in the West.
  26. soldier's grandson
    0
    27 August 2013 10: 11
    Syria will be left alone with China and Iran is not profitable to climb on NATO club, and we can only accept refugees
  27. +7
    27 August 2013 10: 13
    It’s unlikely before Samita. Obama nevertheless decided to meet face-to-face with Putin in St. Petersburg.
    And do not run into Lavrov much. Lavrov says what he can say about the first reaction after US statements. And those behind-the-scenes talks that are going on now are unlikely to be voiced.
    For now, just waiting ...
  28. +4
    27 August 2013 10: 17
    It seems to me that the question of a strike on Syria has already been resolved in favor of delivering it, regardless of the results of the commission. Our diplomats will have titanic work to prevent the invasion. However, no ships will solve the issue, do not console yourself and blame the country's leadership for inaction. Drawing a picture of our fleet off the coast of Syria, ask yourself the question: then what? Well, they are fucking missiles in Damascus, and ours will just watch? You can, of course, in response to cover with our missiles accumulations of bandits. But this is again the territory of Syria and what follows will not even have to guess. It will be like a bunch, loud and useless ...
    1. +3
      27 August 2013 10: 32
      Well, look, the fleet is a measure of prevention and an indication of determination. However, if the second side does not lead to this, then there is a fail. Either peacefully retire, or raise rates.

      Raising rates in the SM is not very profitable, if only because any association is cut off from supplies and actually operates autonomously, away from their home base, air cover, but the opponents have a lot of air force bases around, and coastal complexes and mosquito fleet ships ( I intend to bear the numerical superiority even in the main ships - nevertheless 5 berks, plus the shaving ones will drive something, and I will take the melt out of the scope - for it is not clear who is from us, who is from them, but obviously everyone is represented).

      Yes, and how to raise rates? Shoot down launched axes? Option, actually not a war, you launched a rocket, we thought that it threatens our ship - self-defense, the Americans won an Airbus so much and nothing. However, this requires either a fleet picket along the coast, or escort of carriers, and they will run away wink .

      Strike ships - the war, even if local, with our squadron being sunk very quickly and without options, even though Peter would have been there with Kuzey and Moscow, the only question is how long they will have time to shoot back. Given the fact that there are only destroyers and frigates, without AUG, the exchange will not be in our favor.

      To strike at Syria, but at the bases of the broads? Well, this is a little help, and there’s nothing corny. Throwing P-500, P-700 on ground targets wastes and accuracy is only sufficient for SBN, but there is nothing else. Only Dagestan, Sviyazhsk have gauges and Uglich is being pulled. Tu-160 / Tu-95MS, so it’s difficult to fly, Iraq has already closed the space for the USA, it will close it for us, otherwise it will stand on one of the sides, which is fraught.
  29. 0
    27 August 2013 10: 29
    Well, it was really worth paying attention to the meeting at the summit of the two presidents, which means that everything was decided by default in Syria, but no one would get out of the vest to tear it, Aasad had one way out, or rather to somehow save the country from the bombing, try to resign the powers to set the elections, in general pulling time, but how else? If he is truly alone and no one will help ... Otherwise, everyone will be bombed and hanged like Hussein ...
  30. Vtel
    +1
    27 August 2013 10: 33
    The Yankees, with their jackals, are completely insolent - they are impudent, they sense strength and impunity. To infuse Syrians with chemical weapons closer to the border with Israel, to pull them up and let the tads try to bomb. And it’s time already yesterday to finally send the S-300 and something else to the fraternal Syria. If Iran does not support Syria, then he will soon have a khan. Lord, enlighten the possessed Zhidomassons, thirsting for the blood of your slaves!
  31. +6
    27 August 2013 10: 36
    Guys, we are just shaking the air with these statements like Lavrov, - "Russia will or will not fight on the side of Syria." Wait and see. Maybe Lavrov was right when he said that Russia will not fight (this is a tactical move). Why do children need frankness and straightforwardness? Saying "YES", we will wow, we would only stir up this hive ahead of time and raise panic in the west. Nobody knows and will not reliably tell us, maybe there is already a ring around Syria from our S-300s and the entire coast is dotted with Yakhonts or something else with our specialist instructors? When they go to Syria, then we'll see how it ends. I would never believe that we would just back down like political prostitutes and surrender Syria to the bone.
  32. +4
    27 August 2013 10: 38
    It all looks like a large-scale bluff. There is too much screaming and hysteria from the West. A red herring from Snowden's revelations? Yesterday I watched a program (German) where German, as well as Arab political analysts discussed a topical issue with all the pros and cons of the invasion of Syria. All are unanimously opposed, because understand that the overthrow of Assad will lead to sad consequences and that the most offensive is that they knew about it from the very beginning. It is also about the fact that the majority of the people of Syria are in favor of their leader. Finally, one of these individuals called the rebels terrorists. I sat and looking at these ANALITIK could not help but swear. Where have you been before?
    All this hysteria is held in anticipation of the G20 meeting in St. Petersburg, which indicates another attempt to put pressure on Russia on September 5-6. Quite suddenly, Obama decided to meet with Putin. We look forward to the next week and the outcome of this meeting.
    1. +2
      27 August 2013 11: 45
      Plus. It looks like a war of nerves. And it’s time for Russia to show its teeth (if any). Well, you can’t surrender Syria and all. We got involved - we must go to the end. otherwise there is nothing to side with Assad.
      In the East, power is respected first of all. And they don’t leave their people in trouble.
      Here many are afraid of the 3rd world war. Yes it will not be. Fight with us over Syria and cannibalistic fanatics? Do you seriously think that the West will decide on this? They have the courage if the opponent is frankly weak. But if we re-shoot now ... Yes, we just find ourselves again in the early 90s. And in about 5 years this mess will be at our borders, and we will no longer stay at home.
  33. 128mgb
    +1
    27 August 2013 10: 44
    If, in the event of intervention, Russia gets involved in a battle on the side of Syria, then this is the third world war. All we can do is help the people of Syria diplomatically, morally, by supplying ammunition, possibly by evacuating the government and the population fleeing from the "democratic" cannibals. But it may well be that Russia has not yet laid out all the trump cards. We will wait for further developments.
    1. Guun
      -2
      27 August 2013 10: 58
      The third world is impossible. Not ready, period. The USSR could bend the whole world into a well-known position, and this is how I draw a sad picture of the war with the entire NATO bloc. After all, everyone knows that in the event of such a Russia will remain ONE. The advantage in aviation alone is depressing.
    2. 0
      27 August 2013 11: 18
      Quote: 128mgb
      If, in the event of intervention, Russia gets involved in a battle on the side of Syria, then this is the third world war. All we can do is help the people of Syria diplomatically, morally, by supplying ammunition, possibly by evacuating the government and the population fleeing from the "democratic" cannibals. But it may well be that Russia has not yet laid out all the trump cards. We will wait for further developments.

      The third world question cannot be avoided, perhaps only a few years, during this time it is necessary to solve the problem with the fifth column inside Russia. You can help with the supply of Iskanders.
      For any of them, Syria will come out more expensive than Libya or Iraq.
  34. 0
    27 August 2013 10: 51
    The inaction of our authorities is alarming. It was high time to suspend Russian tourism in Turkey. Maybe block the gas in the geyropu, maybe something else. After all, everyone understands that after Syria there will be Iran, and then Russia. It is necessary to stop enemies at distant approaches.
    1. +3
      27 August 2013 11: 02
      There is no need to forget Iraq. The second largest and first most effective group in Syria - Islamic State of Iraqafter they came to the aid of the Syrian Nusra, they were renamed Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

      Now in Iraq it is relatively calm only because the 3 / 4 group is fighting in Syria. But they will return, still taking with them debtors from Nusra, Chechens and others. Islamists have a single opinion - Iraq is next.

      Concerning the possibilities, one can judge by the bloody week when in a week more than 300 people were killed in Iraq and almost 800 were injured. Demonstration action with the attack of the Prison in Baghdad, when more than 600 militants and just criminals escaped and died under the 40 soldiers of the New Iraqi Army, not counting the guards that were killed under zero.

      Plus, in Iraq, Shiites rule now, and Sunnis are oppressed. In general, all the conditions for a good light are there.
      1. Guun
        0
        27 August 2013 11: 09
        The fact that Iraq will be the next to blaze is understandable, and then, by the same method, they will tackle Iran. And they will redo the whole Middle East where Israel will be the dominant. Oh and the resources are grabbing the west if they succeed.
  35. +1
    27 August 2013 10: 55
    Russia regrets US decision to cancel bilateral meeting in The Hague

    This was announced today on the social network Twitter by the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia Gennady Gatilov. On August 28, US and Russian officials were to meet in The Hague to discuss the Syrian issue.

    Today, the State Department issued a statement saying that the meeting was postponed indefinitely so that the United States of America could formulate an official position on the use of chemical weapons in Syria.
  36. +1
    27 August 2013 11: 05
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING

    Present to everyone a test tube with OM that was allegedly found in Saudi Arabia, say that they infringe on our national interests by financing militants in the Caucasus and a dozen ships and marines to be put off the coast of the Saudis.
    What is not an American script? Game by their rules)
  37. 0
    27 August 2013 11: 08
    Merikos also promised to invade Iran any day, but in the end they pissed. traitors and cowards, these merikos and do not follow their own words.
  38. EGORKA
    +1
    27 August 2013 11: 11
    The cries of urrraaaaaaaaaaa are heard!)) Even when the Union of Amers was there it didn’t stop when attacking other countries, so now we are out of control? We alone were able to restrain the possible forthcoming attack of the United States and satellites on Syria, as much as we could, but we still have a little strength, and even if we could stop them more aggression, we can counter current aggression, but even during the Cold War this was not the case: the United States invaded Vietnam - we quietly helped Vietnam, we entered Afghanistan; the amers helped the Taliban, and that’s how it is necessary if it is possible to drive weapons into Syria.
  39. +3
    27 August 2013 11: 13
    it would be "funny" if experts from the UN were gassed.
  40. +2
    27 August 2013 11: 26
    Americans speak (bully) incessantly. they say, they say ... the impression that they want to hear what Putin will say. not Lavrov, not officials, namely Putin. they want to know what Putin actually prepared for them. bdya-i-i-i-t.
  41. +3
    27 August 2013 11: 27
    At one time, Putin sharply criticized the planned operation in Libya.
    Now the criticism is not particularly visible. The fleet is going the other way.
    Waiting for something?

    If there are our missiles there, count the strikes, shoot them and PR to our air defense systems.
    If there are no rockets, then this whole situation with Snowden, cutting pigs will be very sad and it is not clear for what it was started.
  42. StrateG
    +7
    27 August 2013 11: 29
    I deliberately read all the comments, piling everything together and making up a reaction. So either the Third (Fourth, to whom) world, or we merged Syria.
    Let's put it this way: Lavrov’s business is balabol, his weapon is language. From what he says, the reaction of other countries follows, he paves the way. He said that we will not fight for Syria? He said. I think he simply did not specify - we will not fight for Syria with our troops. Okay, we won’t bring our troops there, but meanwhile the US fleet is almost off the coast and it costs nothing to trample Syria (It costs nothing, it’s expensive). What follows from this? The Americans are preparing the ground for the operation, they are following the formalities that they themselves invented. And we? .. And we patiently wait for what will happen next. I did not hear or see concrete actions from the country's leadership. Maybe something hidden lies in the fact that our ships did not go to Syria. On the other hand, only Down will not understand that having lost Syria, we will lose to the whole world and lose authority completely. Putin is not, he is clearly waiting for the ace to be laid out. Did you notice that he was quiet? That's the same. It is possible that we do not have trump cards, and we just hid ...
    But there is only one conclusion - the information is extremely contradictory and not enough to judge whether we have leaked Syria or not. Therefore, I propose to wait and see what happens next. Once again I say - It’s the business of Lavrov to indulge, he does not solve anything.
    1. +1
      27 August 2013 11: 31
      SAR Navy conducts live firing exercises Syria


    2. 0
      27 August 2013 11: 55
      I really hope that you are right ... A war of nerves, however. I just don’t understand one thing, why did everyone decide that the 3rd world will begin? Nerds in the west rule, but you cannot call them suicides.
  43. 0
    27 August 2013 11: 30
    In general, we realized that we are retreating again. Capture Syria, Iran. Then they will announce the victory of democracy in Uzbekistan, Belarus, Kazakhstan ... Then they will take a tight grip on Russia. And the whole world will only rub its palms: even the same Serbs, Chinese, Persians - huge territories with a small population in the conditions of the global FINANCIAL crisis, on which the USA hooked a needle ... Any inhabitant of the earth will think like a zombie: he is my brother, but I have to eat it to survive ...
    And for whom to peck with nuclear weapons when the whole world is against you?
    That's how the US decided to get rid of the nuclear threat to itself ...

    20 thousand corpses for half a year would be enough for the USA to forget about the war for a century and even cease to exist as a single state ...

    Small Snowden Obama ate, Putin will surrender to Syria in response?
  44. Alexred
    0
    27 August 2013 11: 38
    It is interesting if the UN commission proves that the opposition applied chemistry, the amers will bomb them.
  45. 0
    27 August 2013 11: 40
    In my unprofessional opinion, a serious argument against the aggression of the United States and others like them would be to provide irrefutable and complete evidence the use of chemical weapons by terrorists.
    And so - Assad’s intelligence, ours - it turns out they can’t get this information and poke the nose of the same Americans, British and other French. Unfortunately.
    1. +1
      27 August 2013 12: 00
      Quote: Des10
      And so - Assad’s intelligence, ours - it turns out they can’t get this information and poke the nose of the same Americans, British and other French. Unfortunately.


      "Jabbing" at the truth is not an argument for the United States ...
  46. +2
    27 August 2013 11: 41
    Anglo-Saxons burn you in a fiery hyena if you poke your head in Syria !!!!! Syrian army good luck !!!!!
  47. +6
    27 August 2013 11: 43
    It’s a shame for the state ... I’m ashamed for the leadership ...
    Retreat in all directions is just enraging.
    Remember: "perish yourself, and help your comrade."
    And who wants to be friends with us?
    It is unlikely that because of Syria, NATO will unleash the 3rd World War.
    The preventive measures of Russia were obvious. As always, itching for a long time.
    We are not learning anything.
    What kind of leadership can be discussed.
    It's a shame to me, annoying ... well, okay.
  48. StrateG
    0
    27 August 2013 11: 51
    I advise you to read the comments (especially mine, I’m talking about a general conclusion), in order to understand - it’s too early to judge whether we have leaked Syria or not.
  49. RA77
    -1
    27 August 2013 11: 55
    Something and Putin is silent on the situation, as he got water in his mouth.
  50. +3
    27 August 2013 12: 12
    All this looks a lot like the mid-30s. The Anglo-Saxons were convinced that they controlled Hitler. But no. Now they are trying to repeat this again, believing that everything is under control. They had already released gin from the bottle, but this fact did not reach them.
    Why can’t you turn in Syria? There are concepts that cannot be measured by anything. Self-esteem is one of them. It is either there or not.
    Once upon a time I had to fight alone against three. They piled me cool, but I did not run away and fought as best I could. And I was not ashamed of my lights, they did not laugh at me. And those three looked at me with different eyes.
    Why is this all? To the fact that many do not understand this. Well, that’s not all.
    It's easier to pretend to be a rag and step aside. Wipe the spit, pretend that I did not hear anything. And console yourself that the teeth are whole, there are no bruises, clean.
    But there is something wrong inside. You cannot fool yourself ...
    1. +1
      27 August 2013 12: 23
      everything is right when you answer for yourself

      and it’s not at all right to decide for others

      and in this case the result will be the complete destruction and humiliation of the country
      1. +1
        27 August 2013 14: 10
        In politics and in life, everything happens according to one rule, only in politics everything is veiled. They beat only the weak, recognize only strength.
        No need to do the calculations of soldiers, ships, etc. More often than not the strongest wins, but the most arrogant, impudent and self-confident.
        He gave an example from life simply because the first got into his head.
  51. +1
    27 August 2013 12: 16
    Listen to "HEROES" here...
    Thank God, there are sane people in the leadership of the country, not like the crazy people here
    People, do you understand well what you are calling for?

    So that the country (we're talking about Russia) becomes impoverished, exhausted, so that it leaves the Caucasus, Siberia, the Far East, the North
    without protection.
    To destroy pipes, mines, oil production, the remains of factories
    So that people sit in basements, cellars, listen to the sounds of falling bombs and missiles and wonder whether they will hit or not, while calming their children

    And what is all this for? Another Arab scumbag? Who needs it at this price?
    Screamers, ask your wives and mothers, is this what they want?
    For children and youth who are making plans for life

    It is now much more important for Russia to get its economy and army in order. More serious events will begin soon, we must be prepared for the redivision of the world
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    2. +2
      27 August 2013 13: 59
      There is no need to be afraid, why are we always afraid of something? Now everyone here is afraid of World War III. Well, the Amers won’t fight us over Syria, which not everyone can even find on the map. This is not a reason for them to fight a serious opponent. Pounce on Syria when there is a 100% guarantee that Russia will build it up. When war is already on the threshold, are you sure that Russia will be ready? Knowing our history, I doubt it.
      1. +2
        27 August 2013 14: 21
        Quote: Raptor75
        Well, the Amers won’t fight us because of Syria, which isn’t even on the map.


        and what do you suggest?
        send ships, infantry, stand up in defense of Syria?

        the ships will be sunk, the infantry will be destroyed, what next?
        Hit NATO ships? They will strike our territory, having first destroyed the fleet and shot down the planes.
        What's next?
        1. +3
          27 August 2013 15: 11
          bulvas

          Quote: bulvas
          and what do you suggest?
          send ships, infantry, stand up in defense of Syria?



          Dear, bulvas, You are right, this can no longer be done now.
          But, one or two military bases are located in advance on the territory of Syria would radically change the entire course of events.
          Peter I also said: “Delay is like irrevocable death.”
          At this stage we always lose...
        2. +1
          27 August 2013 15: 40
          Quote: bulvas
          It is now much more important for Russia to get its economy and army in order. More serious events will begin soon, we must be prepared for the redivision of the world

          To get back on our feet, we need 10 years of quiet life. Rest assured, no one will let us live in peace. Are you a seer? Do you know what awaits us in the next 3-5-10 years? It may well be that there will be a war on our borders in 2-3 years. Let's say sorry, come back later, are we not ready?
          Quote: bulvas
          we must be prepared to re-divide the world

          No one will wait for us. It has already begun, whether we like it or not.
          1. +1
            27 August 2013 15: 51
            Quote: Raptor75
            Are you a seer? Do you know what awaits us in the coming years?


            Don't know. And no one knows.
            So what now, rush into battle?
            1. +1
              27 August 2013 16: 11
              IMHO, we are being tested for lice. No one will fight with us seriously, without fools. Taking into account our problems, Russia is not Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia (that’s right, with a small letter). NATO, for all its external splendor, has the rotten insides of a hyena, which attacks only the weak. We just can't fight...
          2. +3
            27 August 2013 17: 13
            “We are 100 years behind the capitalist countries. We must cover this distance in 10 years, otherwise we will be crushed.” J.V. Stalin 1931 They ran through without crushing us...

            And now the situation is not the same and the leadership is not the same, and the enemy is united... Unfortunately, Stalin is no longer with us...
        3. 0
          27 August 2013 19: 44
          Katz offers to surrender))) wassat I’m kidding, of course. We need to rearm and equip our own army at an accelerated pace, so that later we don’t have to sit in the trenches near the Moscow Ring Road
  52. +3
    27 August 2013 12: 25
    Putin’s silence is louder than Obama’s squeal and his close Gay Europeans, and it’s time for Germany to slap the impudent face that Russian tanks in Berlin are haunting them in ’45, wait and they’ll be there again. And there’s no need to lament about the possibility of World War 3 - it’s already coming and we we lose about 500 thousand of our citizens every year. Russia is being systematically destroyed, so why be afraid? And stop trolling us! Having surrendered Syria, we will repeat the Munich indulgence of the aggressor, and who is next or you don’t understand!
    1. -2
      27 August 2013 17: 00
      It’s like that, we are surrounded by bases (there are tactical weapons in Europe), a fleet, we have nothing more to wait for, losses (huge) cannot be avoided, it’s time to start!
  53. seed
    +5
    27 August 2013 12: 47
    Quote: StrateG
    I deliberately read all the comments, piling everything together and making up a reaction. So either the Third (Fourth, to whom) world, or we merged Syria.
    Let's put it this way: Lavrov’s business is balabol, his weapon is language. From what he says, the reaction of other countries follows, he paves the way. He said that we will not fight for Syria? He said. I think he simply did not specify - we will not fight for Syria with our troops. Okay, we won’t bring our troops there, but meanwhile the US fleet is almost off the coast and it costs nothing to trample Syria (It costs nothing, it’s expensive). What follows from this? The Americans are preparing the ground for the operation, they are following the formalities that they themselves invented. And we? .. And we patiently wait for what will happen next. I did not hear or see concrete actions from the country's leadership. Maybe something hidden lies in the fact that our ships did not go to Syria. On the other hand, only Down will not understand that having lost Syria, we will lose to the whole world and lose authority completely. Putin is not, he is clearly waiting for the ace to be laid out. Did you notice that he was quiet? That's the same. It is possible that we do not have trump cards, and we just hid ...
    But there is only one conclusion - the information is extremely contradictory and not enough to judge whether we have leaked Syria or not. Therefore, I propose to wait and see what happens next. Once again I say - It’s the business of Lavrov to indulge, he does not solve anything.


    You can immediately see a real strategist (respectfully). I completely agree. Analysts with CONTRPOST generally believe that an invasion and bombing are unlikely.

    And about the “quiet” Putin, I’ll give a quote: “What Putin said always had resonance. Now even his silence has resonance. In some special way, such a situation has been created that Putin does not speak until the West begins to say something worthy Putin's attention, then he answers. In the meantime, he is silent, he seems to be making it clear that everything they - his “partners” say, is not worthy of an answer. Try again, Putin is silent. However, something tells me that if he says nothing He says that doesn't mean he doesn't do anything."
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 17: 31
      Quote: seed
      Analysts with CONTRPOST generally believe that an invasion and bombing are unlikely.


      I was interested in what Contrapost such laughing , I found the site and..." Yes, YES" - I liked it THERE!
      Thank you for the “tattoo”, and let me give you a short excerpt:

      Obama wants Putin to be more dependent and, in fact, is blackmailing Putin with military operations in Syria. It’s strange that no one from Obama’s circle tells him that Putin cannot be blackmailed. Remember Nordost and Beslan, those people also blackmailed Putin, is at least one of them alive? Putin simply cannot back down in front of the whole world. So, expect surprises, this guy has a fair amount of them.

      Strictly speaking, this is what we have been talking about all these years, and what Clinton could not do, but what the United States has always done before her - creating tension, political bargaining and mutual “bartering” of concessions with the indispensable benefit for the United States. Americans are accustomed to the fact that they have the right to this, and even ordinary Americans today say that the United States does not need any decisions of the UN Security Council. The United States is a legitimate power, and it makes no sense to listen to some diplomats from Africa at the UN. However, as we know, not everyone who disagrees with the United States now comes from Africa, and there are more and more people like that. They all look at Russia with hope.

      If Russia had succumbed to the persuasion of the United States, then there would have been no uncertainty. If Russia lost sponsorship, Assad would fall very quickly. But the United States should not count on this. If Russia really supplied missile weapons to Syria, then Putin will be happy to see how it all works. If this causes damage to the United States, then bribes from Putin are smooth - no one invited you there and you do not have any UN Security Council mandates. So excuse me, move over, dear comrade and dear friend Obama, friendship is friendship, but tobacco is apart!

      What, strictly speaking, is the damage caused to Russia by the US war against Syria? There are also many such threats, but they are all of a reputational nature. The attack on Russian-made Syrian missile systems is intended not only to fulfill the Pentagon’s plans, but also to show buyers of Russian weapons that they are wasting their money. The Russian arms portfolio has already grown, in the opinion of the United States, to unaffordable proportions; if the United States manages to deal with Russian air defenses, then a significant blow will be dealt to the Russian defense industry. However, the opposite question also arises: what if Russian air defense manages to intercept American missiles? Then it will be a huge defeat for the United States. It is absolutely clear that the Americans will try to be out of reach of a retaliatory strike, and they have such capabilities.

      http://contrpost.com/
  54. 0
    27 August 2013 14: 38
    Globa insists that a world war will begin during the Olympics.
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 16: 05
      Did Mishiko S. actually find the money?
    2. 0
      27 August 2013 16: 14
      We are very interested in his opinion...
  55. StrateG
    +1
    27 August 2013 15: 07
    You can immediately see a real strategist (respectfully). I completely agree. Analysts with CONTRPOST generally believe that an invasion and bombing are unlikely.

    And about the “quiet” Putin, I’ll give a quote: “What Putin said always had resonance. Now even his silence has resonance. In some special way, such a situation has been created that Putin does not speak until the West begins to say something worthy Putin's attention, then he answers. In the meantime, he is silent, he seems to be making it clear that everything they - his “partners” say, is not worthy of an answer. Try again, Putin is silent. However, something tells me that if he says nothing He says that doesn't mean he doesn't do anything."


    Someone here is putting down disadvantages, apparently they adhere to a different point of view, which they don’t want to voice, ha! But okay. Thank you for the compliment, but this is just my point of view and may be wrong. And yet, I am inclined to believe that Putin is waiting for the right moment to hit America in the gut. Lavrov is only distracting attention for now.



    Authority was undermined when Orthodox Serbia was bombed...

    They lost back in 2010, when they did not arm Iran with the S-300...

    And it’s not even about the S-300s themselves, but about the message to the Americans: We armed, we did it, and if we are “erased from the map,” we will continue. Who do you think will be treated with more respect: the lazy one or the determined one? We got sick, now it’s too late. They cut without us and don’t take us into account. They don’t ask China either, because this option with Syria is about them too. After all, Qatar’s gigantic gas reserves are at stake, which should bring down Gazprom’s monopoly. Deja vu? Yes, yes, just like before the collapse of the USSR.



    Authority jumps like crazy - it takes off, then again no one takes us into account. It is enough to carry out several successful operations for us to be taken into account - Putin has proven this. To bring everything to naught, one mistake is enough, which I hope will not be made. And if they do allow it...welcome to a new country. And it will not be Russia at all.

    1. +2
      27 August 2013 15: 32
      Everything will be decided this week.....we have to wait
      1. +1
        27 August 2013 16: 15
        The worst thing is the unknown...
  56. +1
    27 August 2013 15: 16
    The site has conducted surveys before, now conduct and ask the question: Will you trust the political course of Russia (statement, execution, conclusion of * alliances *, etc., etc.) if a military operation begins in Syria, by NATO and the United States. Politics is learned in practice....where is our national leader of steel? from which the whole of Europe simply *shakes*, and which politicians like Obama eat for breakfast. Something has been going on for the 3rd day, and so far only a *sour* press conference is visible. Lavrova - Russia will not fight for Syria (ts) This... this is all bad (ts) This is the powerful and uncompromising response of the power!
    Ps No, seriously, as I already wrote, it’s very offensive for the country, what kind of respect can we talk about? :(
    1. +1
      27 August 2013 15: 55
      Recently, all sorts of people were hanging around the apartments, collecting signatures for Putin’s resignation. I sent it, but didn’t open the door. If Putin leaks it, I’ll open it and even talk.
    2. 0
      27 August 2013 19: 04
      Quote: Xroft
      Politics is learned in practice....where is our national leader of steel?

      as usual, he thinks somewhere and looks where the curve will lead. Then he will appear with “She Drowned.”
      Quote: Xroft
      the whole of Europe is just *shaking*, and who eats politicians like Obama for breakfast.

      This is the image a person has among those with weak brains; nothing can be done about it.
      Quote: Xroft
      so far only *sour* press conference is visible. Lavrova

      I would give Lavrov the title of “Knight of the Sad Image.”
  57. StrateG
    +2
    27 August 2013 15: 21
    Briefly on the topic.
  58. +4
    27 August 2013 15: 33
    Let's hope that Iran will fulfill its allied obligations to Syria in deeds, and not in words. After all, it is Syria’s turn to democratize.
    1. +2
      27 August 2013 16: 05
      Quote: Russian
      Let's hope that Iran will fulfill its allied obligations to Syria in deeds, and not in words. After all, it is Syria’s turn to democratize.


      And we should help Iran...
      1. 0
        27 August 2013 16: 36
        !!! sell the anti-aviation missile systems promised back in 2010, and without it NATO will not achieve success.
        1. +1
          27 August 2013 17: 06
          Tell me, do you have a rough idea of ​​what air defense is?
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      2. 0
        27 August 2013 16: 37
        How naive are you - who is in our government???? Will they really go against their masters??? If they can’t imprison Serdyuk...
        1. -1
          28 August 2013 08: 42
          Where does such a secret and sacred knowledge of Russian existence come from?!
  59. +3
    27 August 2013 15: 43
    “The use of chemical weapons is a crime against humanity. If reports of the use of toxic substances by the Bashar al-Assad regime are proven, the international community must take action. And Germany will not stand aside,” said Guido Westerwelle, German Foreign Minister.
    They are experts in the use of chemical weapons. I was touched by the statement about a crime against humanity from his lips.
  60. +2
    27 August 2013 16: 10
    Our leadership simply pretends to support the leadership of Libya and Egypt, now Syria and Iran, but in fact they have long since been betrayed at summits and forums, we are led from abroad through puppets
  61. +3
    27 August 2013 16: 18
    What else can you expect from the fascists? The whole history of the United States is blood...
  62. +4
    27 August 2013 16: 28
    Even during the evacuation of Tartus there were vague doubts... After all, it would be possible to make full use of it, to gain a foothold by hook or by crook. The USA is clinging to Manas and other objects in other countries. This is a real projection of power... It would be better if they called Tartus differently and were at least demonstratively present... No one would dare to attack directly. They would all bark. The West is not the whole world...
  63. Kovrovsky
    0
    27 August 2013 16: 55
    And The Washington Post conducted a survey among readers: should Western countries intervene in the Syrian conflict? Almost two-thirds of readers are against it.

    It’s a pity that this cannot influence the decisions of militant Western politicians!
  64. 0
    27 August 2013 16: 56
    http://vvv-ig.livejournal.com/506863.html
    America hated Obama. Comments from ordinary Americans.
  65. clinic1
    +4
    27 August 2013 16: 56
    Quote: V. Ushakov
    We are about 5 years short of re-equipping and rearming the army. While we are weak, we must admit this in order to quickly eliminate this shortcoming. What we really need to do is strengthen the military-industrial complex in every possible way, and we need to do this headlong and quickly. And rely on the Strategic Missile Forces, medium- and short-range nuclear missiles.
    Deja vu...! Is not it? Industrialization!!! And they also criticize Stalin... but he was faced with the same problem!
  66. penyvr
    +1
    27 August 2013 16: 56
    Fuck it, America will fight this time, just like in Iraq everything will be limited to missile attacks on Syrian territory, the geyropa will definitely attack, they need to show how gay they are, and the Americans will give profits on credit to the geyropa, it’s good and you can somehow save your budget
  67. 0
    27 August 2013 17: 05
    Quote: Karavan
    I thought, it turns out, in the Mediterranean now only 5 of our BDKs are. The main forces of the Black Sea Fleet drove off to Venezuela, Pacific Fleet gather with a trip to Australia ... no brains or what?


    I understand the agreement?
  68. Druid
    0
    27 August 2013 17: 25
    I don’t understand why everyone is fussing. I think Russia knew from the very beginning how everything would end sooner or later, the West needed a reason, everyone understood this. I looked here at what Russia delivered to Syria, whether it again ended up in the red like with Libya - by and large, no, Russia did not supply anything expensive towards future payments, leftovers from warehouses, spare parts, etc., nothing more.
    Syria is a bargaining chip among the rather pragmatic Russian authorities, unlike our forum, there are no naive idiots there who believe that the S-300, studied inside and out by NATO or anything else, will save Syria.
    After Yugoslavia, the Slavic Serbian people, given over to be torn to pieces by NATO, who will believe that Russia will defend some kind of “black-assed” brotherly Syrian people.
    In addition, the chaos that will be sown in Syria after Assad leaves will actually benefit Russia, and not just the United States and its allies. There will be many contradictions in the region. Between Sunnis and Shiites, Alawites, Arabs and Kurds, Turks and Kurds - a Shiite axis of Iran-Iraq-a fragment of Syria-Qatar, etc., a Kurdish axis of Iraq-Syria-Turkey, etc. is possible. and so on. There are dozens of scenarios, and in any case Russia will be able to have influence on the region.
    1. +2
      27 August 2013 18: 30
      Quote: Druid
      and, and under any circumstances, Russia will be able to have influence on the region.

      If we merge, what impact can we talk about????
      They only respect strength.
  69. -1
    27 August 2013 17: 33
    It is a pity that not a single politician in Russia has the strength that the current time requires of him. Although maybe we don’t know everything and Russia simply doesn’t advertise that it is participating in preparing a response to the invasion of Syria. And in fairness, it is worth saying that we ourselves are not luring the West to get drawn into the conflict in Syria. Perhaps this intervention will be fatal for the West...
  70. +2
    27 August 2013 17: 57
    Dmitry Sarovsky (president of the Institute of the Middle East) in an interview with the Russia 24 channel said “it is highly likely that the United States will launch a missile strike on chemical weapons warehouses in Syria.”
  71. Stepnogorets
    +1
    27 August 2013 18: 00
    It is not profitable for the West to wait for the conclusions of the chemistry commission! Most likely, in the coming days there will be some kind of provocation staged by the West or its swarthy vassals, which will result in missile attacks on military and industrial facilities in Syria from warships of the vile coalition! Interestingly, have they already delivered the S-300 (although there won’t be enough of them)? If the GDP is silent, then most likely it should be so.
  72. +1
    27 August 2013 18: 10
    ...but not so long ago America was buried together on the forum, and she, like a phoenix bird, looks like she will be reborn one of these days and will do shit again.
    Russia (as a PARTNER) will be allowed to look from the outside....
  73. +1
    27 August 2013 18: 11
    ...but not so long ago America was buried together on the forum, and she, like a phoenix bird, looks like she will be reborn one of these days and will do shit again.
    Russia (as a PARTNER) will be allowed to look from the outside....
  74. RUSSIA 2013
    0
    27 August 2013 18: 17
    Quote: Grishka100watt
    remove all restrictions on the supply of heavy weapons.

    Yes? But nothing that block Syria from the sea? You recall the Caribbean crisis, where even the Soviet Union did not dare to break the sea blockade of Cuba?

    However, nuclear warheads were still delivered to Cuba, and they were like hemorrhoids to the Americans.
    1. -2
      27 August 2013 18: 24
      Yeah, but this almost led to a nuclear war.
  75. Stepnogorets
    0
    27 August 2013 18: 18
    Quote: Xroft
    Dmitry Sarovsky (president of the Institute of the Middle East) in an interview with the Russia 24 channel said “it is highly likely that the United States will launch a missile strike on chemical weapons warehouses in Syria.”

    100%!
  76. Kowalsky
    +3
    27 August 2013 18: 30
    Syria will be bombed in an exemplary manner for three days (maximum a week) and... that’s it. The US doesn't need more to achieve its goals. And the goals are simple: to save the face of Obama, who is looking less and less like the leader of the most powerful country in the world; to prove to allies in Europe that the United States still has gunpowder in its flasks, and that the US-NATO alliance has not yet lost its relevance and significance; humiliate and put Russia in its place (for this alone the United States will strike Syria); to show their Arab terrorist mercenaries that their masters did not abandon them in trouble, at least formally; testing new weapons along the way (they do this in almost every war), this is a secondary task.
    Syrian losses will be relatively small. The air defense system will be completely destroyed, and the S-300s (if they are there at all, of course) first of all and with great fanfare, so that everyone can see the wreckage; maybe they will fire one missile at the presidential palace, but so as not to kill Assad, otherwise it will turn out somehow undemocratic.
    After this, the war will continue, the militants will become significantly more active and the whole world will face more than one year of bloody carnage in the Middle East.
    1. +1
      27 August 2013 18: 35
      NBC: American missile strike on Syria could be carried out on Thursday

      NEW YORK, August 27. /ITAR-TASS/. An American missile strike on Syria could be launched as early as Thursday. NBC reported this today. The "three-day" strikes will be limited in scope, she quotes US officials as saying.

      more details http://www.itar-tass.com/c1/854705.html
      1. 0
        27 August 2013 18: 42
        Demand for gas masks is growing rapidly in Israel
        In Israel, due to a possible attack by the United States and its allies on Syria in the near future, the demand for gas masks has sharply increased. Agence France-Presse reported this on Tuesday, August 27, with reference to a statement by the postal service.
        http://www.ng.ru/news/441313.html
  77. for VDV
    +5
    27 August 2013 18: 47
    If Obamach decided to strike at Syria and strikes at it, then we will at least pull the last hair out of our heads and not change anything. The United States will gouge Syria like hell and the whole world will just quietly whine, not daring to do anything. And Russia too. The rebuke of our politicians is empty words. Lavrov outlined Putin’s position. “Because of Syria, Russia will not fight with anyone.” Everything can be put to rest. Obamach punished Putin for Snowden and everything else. Putin lost.
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  79. P325M5
    +3
    27 August 2013 18: 57
    Dear forum members, in such an alarming moment I have several very specific questions:

    - in 2006, an agreement on mutual assistance in defense against external enemies was signed between Syria and Iran. I have not seen specifics regarding this agreement anywhere in the open press. Perhaps someone has come across the details... Does this agreement imply Iran's entry into a full-fledged war in the event of external aggression against Syria. By full-fledged I mean the actions of not only the IRGC, but also the regular army and air force;
    - How many Russian citizens are there in Syria? rough? hundreds, a thousand, several thousand?
    Well, I already asked the last question today live on a radio station to Heydar Jemal - what will happen to the Syrian Alawites? Where should they run? To which he very calmly and thoroughly replied that 2 million people will most likely be destroyed if one of the world’s patrons (USA, UN, etc.) does not create a cap for them. That no one (including Iran) is willing to accept them. And knowing this, the Alawites will fight to the last man, to the last child and old man... This is scary, guys.
    1. +1
      27 August 2013 19: 56
      Quote: P325М5
      By full-fledged I mean the actions of not only the IRGC, but also the regular army and air force;

      How will the Iranian armed forces enter Syria? There are no common borders. You can’t transfer much by air, especially since airports and air bases are most likely the number one goal. A strike against the United States in the Persian Gulf will result in a disaster, first of all for Iran. They will instantly hit nuclear facilities. economics Iran is going through hard times. Sanctions have played a significant role. Scud strikes will not solve anything (Scuds are low-level weapons). Any action by Iran will lead to all Western countries and the Americans attacking Iran. Of course, a player in the region, but not strong enough to withstand strike of all. And besides, the air force and air defense are frankly weak. And ground forces are useless against aviation and missile strikes.
      1. P325M5
        0
        27 August 2013 20: 15
        Good evening.

        I did not talk about Iran entering Syrian territory. I was just asking if anyone knew about the details of the military-political agreement between Iran and Syria from 2006.
        Regarding the actions of the Iranian Armed Forces... Mohammad Ali Jaafari knows the whole picture of what and how... But we can only guess. So, according to outside observation, there is only one plan - closing the Strait of Hormuz. This was practiced on December 22, 2011, and a year later on December 29, 2012 (exercise Velayat-91). Those. at the last two largest exercises of the Iranian Armed Forces. I dare to assume that they will act like this....
        1. 0
          27 August 2013 20: 21
          there is a convention on this strait. The doctrine is one, but the reality is different. The scenario against Iran is also ready, Iran will not give the enemy a reason to launch something like this. And do not forget that Iran is multinational and there are plenty of problems there too. The West can easily inflame popular unrest. citizens Iran themselves are not happy with their government. Believe me, we are very close to them. We know something
  80. Arabist
    +5
    27 August 2013 19: 12
    I’m sure that after this I’ll get shoulder straps with skulls, but I’ll say it anyway. Friends, comrades. 1 statement from the Yankees does not mean anything - remember how many times the Yankees and their satellites sent ships to Iran? Did Russia support Iran at this moment? Was he attacked? Lavrov is not a leader, his words are not the ultimate truth. A significant part of keyboard marshals offer a choice - Syria or nuclear war. Well, let's start a world fire. To please some very smart commentators. With all due respect to the USSR, even it did not begin an open military confrontation with the West. I do not call for the surrender of Syria under any circumstances. I urge you not to shout slogans, we will tear everyone apart and we have screwed everything up. Let's soberly weigh what we can and what we can't and estimate the prospects. The will to death (and often just a hot head) is a guaranteed suicide. Please understand me correctly. Best regards, Arabist.
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 20: 07
      Quote: Arabist
      Let's soberly weigh what we can and what we can't and estimate the prospects.


      Dear Andrey, what can be done now? evacuate Russian citizens, and if possible the Assad family. And in the future, strengthen the rearmament and equipment of the army
      1. Arabist
        0
        27 August 2013 20: 21
        So I don’t object, I’m just calling for reasonable and feasible proposals, and not doing what many here propose. And don’t make hasty conclusions.
        1. 0
          27 August 2013 20: 31
          Well, what many are proposing is impossible. Some actually seem to be throwing a mess at the whole world))) well, I agree about the conclusions, it’s still early, but the contours are already emerging
          1. Arabist
            0
            27 August 2013 21: 05
            I also agree with you, the contours have really become clearer, but still I think not everything will be so simple for everyone. For Turkey, for example, this will not be an easy walk; it certainly has a serious army, but Syria’s army, by the standards of the Middle East, is quite at its own level. Iran will also most likely remain on the sidelines. Of course, they will probably suffer irreparable losses, but they will also beat the Yankees like no one else. In any case, Satanovsky thinks so, and he is a smart guy, I read his works, but he is still the president of the Institute of Middle Eastern Countries. Let's get a look. There is an opinion that “this will definitely end in a series of regional wars, and one or two large wars, reminiscent of the Second World War in scale, but without this, it is unlikely that the Sunni monarchs of the Gulf will sort out relations with the Shiite Republic of Iran.” “Which of them, which democracy - Sunni or Shiite - is the main one in the Islamic world, cannot be decided without a big war; it is for this war that everyone is preparing today, and it is precisely because of this that the whole situation is happening in Syria, Iran’s only ally.”
            1. +1
              27 August 2013 21: 26
              look at the photo posted on the article. The Syrian army is no longer the same as it was before the conflict. And Iran has almost no allies in the Islamic world, not counting Hezbollah, which is financed and armed by Iran through Syria. The fall of Syria is the fall of Hezbollah. That's two times two four. Yes, Iran is strong. This is definitely not Syria. But Iran has two flaws. This is the hidden dissatisfaction of the population with the regime and the frankly weak air force and air defense. And something else, I don’t remember missile attacks on Israel when they carried out an operation against Hezbollah in Lebanon in 2006 -and for any attack from Iran, the West will strike at nuclear facilities.
              1. Arabist
                0
                27 August 2013 21: 34
                I don’t argue with you, the Syrian army is already the same, but now it has gained combat experience and there are no more deserters there. There is indeed discontent in Iran, but there is an opinion that a strike on Iran will only unite the Persians. In addition, Iran’s nuclear centers are scattered throughout the country and most of the facilities are underground, so it will not be possible to close this topic at once, as in Iraq in 1981. For complete destruction, an army is needed that will advance from point to point.
  81. +1
    27 August 2013 19: 12
    Do you know why and where Great Britain has nuclear weapons? They are given his p*ndos on lease good . You ask what the fuck? I'm interested too. I wonder how many countries will crap themselves if Syria has it? At least there will be a little of it...

    1. +4
      27 August 2013 19: 21
      Quote: JACOB
      I wonder how many countries will crap themselves if Syria has it?

      It will be interesting when the Yankees hand over nuclear weapons to Georgia and Turkey in response.

      I’m reading this for the second day, I’m just freaking out. It’s a pity, as I already wrote here - radioactive fallout doesn’t care about borders and political passions, even about sexual orientation)))
      1. -1
        27 August 2013 19: 40
        Quote: Kars
        It will be interesting when the Yankees hand over nuclear weapons to Georgia and Turkey in response.


        They won’t pass it on, they’re too thin. It’s not for them to shoot unarmed Papuans from a drone.
  82. me
    me
    +1
    27 August 2013 19: 17
    To be honest, I’m surprised that the United States is still looking for some pretexts and evidence to justify the invasion of Syria, because with an army like theirs, it’s enough to simply say that government troops used chemical weapons and start a war, and no one will even object.
    1. +1
      27 August 2013 20: 02
      When assessing risks before conducting any military operation, experts evaluate its feasibility (on average) using a three-point system.

      1. Collateral damage (everything is ok cap!)
      2. Acceptable damage (grinding your teeth, so to speak, but if necessary, then necessary)
      3. Unacceptable damage (well, I hope everything is clear here)
  83. +2
    27 August 2013 19: 18
    The Americans will only weaken Assad. There will be 3-4 days of blows and that’s it.
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 19: 50
      Why not? It seems like they saved face, and no one is offended, everyone understood everything...
  84. +2
    27 August 2013 19: 20
    The situation, of course, is not very good. What can we counter? In my opinion, special groups need to be secretly transferred to Syria, with appropriate weapons, primarily air defense, but not S-300, a small number of them will simply be erased. Considering that everything will go according to the proven scenario- strikes with Tomahawks and aircraft, we must prepare for a guerrilla air defense war! Well, it would be nice to have 10 missiles against Cyprus and ships, let’s check their air defense!
    Officially, we should not be in Syria, but we must be there! There is nowhere to retreat, Moscow is behind us!
  85. Kavosh
    +4
    27 August 2013 19: 22
    What nonsense? Has Russia surrendered Syria? Iraq? Iran? Libya?
    Were they Russian allies? These were our lands? We were
    owe them?
    What do you think, who is Russia to these countries? Friend ? Or "Friend"?

    Russians only throw weapons at applicants for democracy in order to test them for
    NATO and the USA are politically supportive, and that’s it, period. For Russia there is only one ally and he is close to the country.
    Now, what are Americans waiting for? They are conducting reconnaissance, it is unknown because
    what the Russians and Chinese have crammed into Syria.

    I doubt that there is an S300 in Syria, I think there is an unofficial prototype there, so that in case of failure, there will be no damage to the reputation of our weapons.

    By the way, the Russians recently concluded a deal with Iraq for 4 billion dollars in technology.
    1. +3
      27 August 2013 20: 35
      Quote: KAVOSH
      What nonsense? Has Russia surrendered Syria? Iraq? Iran? Libya?
      Were they Russian allies? These were our lands? We were
      owe them?
      What do you think, who is Russia to these countries? Friend ? Or "Friend"?

      We need to help those who really value the freedom of their country. Syria has proven in 2 years that it deserves to be free. He didn’t consider the Arabs to be warriors at all, but Assad was able to create a combat-ready army for a country that has been waging a war for two years in virtually complete isolation. Once you are harnessed, you have to go to the end, otherwise there was no point in starting everything.
  86. 128mgb
    +1
    27 August 2013 19: 47
    Quote: slaventi

    The third world question cannot be avoided, perhaps only a few years, during this time it is necessary to solve the problem with the fifth column inside Russia. You can help with the supply of Iskanders.
    For any of them, Syria will come out more expensive than Libya or Iraq.

    You're either young "to hell with half tones." Either you are talking nonsense, excuse me, Russia needs peace. A little more, a little more, Do you think Stalin didn’t feel this?
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 20: 23
      Quote: 128mgb
      , Russia needs peace. A little more, a little more

      Peace is needed, no one argues. Only the enemy will not wait until we recover. And Stalin felt it. Did not have time.
  87. Tox
    +7
    27 August 2013 19: 53
    The year 1957 is repeated, then the USA + (France, England, Turkey) planned to intervene in Syria and only the firm position of the USSR in protecting the allied country prevented these plans from being realized. Soviet warships came to Syria on a friendly visit in combat readiness No. 1, and sailed in only 2 units, changing each other, although the 6th US Fleet was in full combat readiness in the Mediterranean Sea. The USSR was not afraid of war with the West, although only 12 years ago it survived the 2nd World War on its territory, having lost tens of millions of citizens in it, and even in those days there weren’t thousands of nuclear warheads and delivery vehicles like modern Russia has now, but they weren’t afraid and the USSR defended the friendly country. And what now, just chatter about Russia’s independent policy, but when it comes down to it, we hide our heads in the sand , and we shout, we are not fighting with our partners, although these partners a couple of decades ago pumped up our northern Caucasus with weapons and mercenaries of all stripes, and you don’t even need to go far to see the same example of arming Georgia before 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. We will not lose with such a toothless foreign policy the last allies and we will be left alone.
  88. Foooxxxxx
    0
    27 August 2013 20: 03
    Well, well, let's see, they have already stated a million times that they will enter Syria, but they will not. The plot of Iraq is repeated. It will be difficult for all NATO to intervene, it will be difficult for Syria, but the Syrian government has stated that it will fight no matter what!
    1. +3
      27 August 2013 20: 23
      ground forces will not enter! there is already someone there to attack and do menial work. They will bomb with missiles and airstrikes
  89. good123
    0
    27 August 2013 20: 10
    Quote: gud123
    The US authorities promise to publish a report on the use of chemical weapons in Syria in the coming days.

    Opposition to its mission to place chemicals. weapons completed!!!!!
  90. Foooxxxxx
    +1
    27 August 2013 20: 16
    But there are no independent experts, all the UN experts are ass-licking the states. Everyone already knows what the experts will conclude, they will say that the government is to blame for everything. I wish they could hit them in the balls and more...
  91. d_t_p
    +2
    27 August 2013 20: 26
    I'm very ashamed of Russia.
    It seems like one of the world’s first superpowers, but it can’t do anything!
    How can you be so indifferent to your allies??? Surrender another country to the Middle Pinds and some mice of Great Britain and France?
    But behind Syria and Iran there is no one left but Russia!!! It is clear that they will not make a direct intervention, but will begin to put a little pressure on Russia from all sides until they strangle it!!!
    Can not be so! You need to do at least something, and not just LA-LA.
    1. +1
      27 August 2013 20: 32
      what do you propose to do?
    2. RUS-36
      0
      30 August 2013 23: 46
      It’s better to be ashamed of yourself, and Russia will decide what to do without you..
  92. Grigorich 1962
    +1
    27 August 2013 20: 37
    Among other things, Russia’s incompetent foreign policy leads to such a development of events.....did you hear Lavrov’s press conference yesterday??....you weren’t visited by a feeling of complete disappointment....this babble....complete toothlessness... ..I don’t even want to comment
    1. d_t_p
      0
      28 August 2013 13: 11
      Grigorich absolutely agrees with you.
      If I used to think that Lavrov was an extremely useful politician and a man of action, now I am more inclined to believe that he is just one more of many!
  93. +1
    27 August 2013 20: 54
    “Projection of power” is the official visit of the head of the Russian government D.A. Medvedev. to Syria until December 31, 2013 (we'll see). Well, appropriate support for the visit and a modest hint of “unacceptable damage” to all “sponsor” countries of the opposing side.
  94. +2
    27 August 2013 20: 56
    Yes, in this “situation” Assad will have to put it mildly, “not great.” However, this course of events was initially predicted, based at least on the events in Iraq - the presence of weapons of mass destruction was declared the formal reason for the invasion. I would venture to suggest that Assad’s people were unlikely to decide, being in their right mind, to use chemical weapons. It seems that this is not in their interests - the reaction of opponents is quite predictable. Accordingly, on the contrary, those who want to “remove” Assad “from the scene” benefit from everything that is happening. Maybe they want to duplicate the Libyan scenario, you bastards?
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 21: 08
      If the Syrians had a sound mind, they wouldn’t have fought with each other for 2,5 years. The whole country would have been turned into ruins. and hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded
      1. 0
        27 August 2013 23: 05
        Why, “we” are so worried about the sanity of the so-called. "Syrians". You can put it this way: if the Russians had a sound mind, the USSR would not have been turned into “ruins” and quite a lot of people would have been killed and wounded as a result. Accordingly, most likely, neither Yugoslavia, nor Iraqi, nor Libyan, nor Syrian nor other scenarios undesirable for our state would arise. And, in this case, a specific situation was meant - with the alleged use of chemical weapons in hostilities. Who benefits and who doesn't? As they say, guess three times.
        1. +2
          27 August 2013 23: 20
          and so it’s all clear who benefits from this. I’ll say this about common sense: it’s just best to learn from other people’s mistakes, and not stupidly repeat them. But I agree about the USSR, if there were a USSR this wouldn’t have happened.
      2. -1
        28 August 2013 10: 27
        If there had been a sound mind, Karabakh probably would not have existed, and Abkhazia, and South Ossetia, and Kosovo, and Transnistria. United Kingdom also consists of countries, America consists of states. There will be fertile soil and with the help of cash injections from interested parties they can be split into smaller parts.
  95. 0
    27 August 2013 21: 07
    Our valiant government, as always, has soiled itself and stuck its tongues into a deep cave, and our systems with their ignorance will not be very good advertising, to put it mildly.
  96. +1
    27 August 2013 21: 14
    Quote: d_t_p
    It seems like one of the first world superpowers...

    I wonder who you consider to be the “first world superpowers”? As far as I understand, before the “self-dissolution” of the USSR, there were only two powers on the planet that had every reason to be called that way - the USSR and the USA. That's all. Since then, something has changed, events have occurred that, unfortunately, did not lead to an increase in the economic and military power of Russia. Many positions have been lost and it will not be easy to restore them, if at all possible.
  97. +1
    27 August 2013 21: 23
    Quote: lonely
    If the Syrians had a sound mind, they wouldn’t have fought with each other for 2,5 years. The whole country would have been turned into ruins. and hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded

    It's not a matter of common sense, but of open support of fanatics - Islamists by the West. The country was actually in complete isolation for 2 years, however, Assad did not lose control over the army and it retained its unity and combat effectiveness. And without the West, the Islamists would have been killed long ago.
    1. -2
      27 August 2013 21: 38
      50 generals, hundreds of senior officers, about 40 thousand soldiers deserted from the army. The fanatics arrived in Syria a year and a half ago. The Syrians killed each other for a whole year, even after the arrival of the fanatics they did not get closer and did not drive these bearded devils out of the country. Assad did not lost control over the military loyal to him, and not the entire army. And in order to tear the Islamists to shreds, you had to have a united society. Have you even noticed any kind of resistance from the Syrians in the territories controlled by the militants? Not a single fact. And in the territories controlled by the government, there are terrorist attacks every day. As for the combat effectiveness of the army, yes, I don’t argue. Some elite units, armored troops showed excellent combat training and proficiency. You can take your hat off to the brave tank crews. But many units simply left their positions and military warehouses and left. It never even occurred to them to even blow up weapons and ammunition depots. There are dozens of video facts. Unfortunately, this is the bitter truth, which is better than sweet misinformation
  98. +6
    27 August 2013 21: 40
    Good evening everyone!
    Yes, events are getting “hotter and hotter” and the arrogance of the “developed West” knows no bounds!
    If Russia “surrenders” Syria, then who will be ready to help it after that? And troubled times await us ahead...

    Eh, our jingoistic patriots have become quiet, we can’t hear the greetings
    - “Glory to the Kremlin helmsmen!”,
    - “Hurray for our fearless and principled diplomats!” (Lavrov)...

    And after the loss in Syria, the next line of Slavic defense will be on the RUSSIAN border.

    With sincere wishes VICTORY and LUCK to the Syrian troops in the holy cause of defense of their HOMELAND from Wahhabi and now imperialist intervention!

    Mikhailo, Slovakia.
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 22: 02
      I hope we will have the last word.
  99. +2
    27 August 2013 21: 49
    Quote: westland
    Our valiant government, as always, has soiled itself and stuck its tongues into a deep cave, and our systems with their ignorance will not be very good advertising, to put it mildly.

    It seems that the upcoming strike on Syria (if there is one, of course) must be used to maximum benefit, namely:
    1. Check how intelligence systems work (space, electronic, etc.), and give part of the information received to the Syrians for use in “business”;
    2. Check (if possible, of course) in combat conditions the existing and future defense and attack systems:
    3. Practice tactics to combat attacks by minke whales.
  100. +1
    27 August 2013 22: 00
    Quote: lonely
    50 generals, hundreds of senior officers, about 40 thousand soldiers deserted from the army. The fanatics arrived in Syria a year and a half ago. The Syrians killed each other for a whole year, even after the arrival of the fanatics they did not get closer and did not drive these bearded devils out of the country. Assad did not lost control over the military loyal to him, and not the entire army. And in order to tear the Islamists to shreds, you had to have a united society. Have you even noticed any kind of resistance from the Syrians in the territories controlled by the militants? Not a single fact. And in the territories controlled by the government, there are terrorist attacks every day. As for the combat effectiveness of the army, yes, I don’t argue. Some elite units, armored troops showed excellent combat training and proficiency. You can take your hat off to the brave tank crews. But many units simply left their positions and military warehouses and left. It never even occurred to them to even blow up weapons and ammunition depots. There are dozens of video facts. Unfortunately, this is the bitter truth, which is better than sweet misinformation

    If everything were as you describe, Syria as a country would have ceased to exist long ago. So everything there is not very simple.
    The army began to overcome these ghouls, tales of chem. weapons arose for this reason. Do you also think that Assad could have used it?
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 23: 31
      Assad does not have enough forces. Even about carrying out the operation to liberate Homs, it was necessary to transfer part of the forces from Homs, which was not yet completely liberated, to the province of Latakia, where the militants made a breakthrough. By the way, Homs is still not completely liberated. When you have enough forces, this is not allowed. Half of the country is in the hands of Assad’s opponents. The army had successes in certain areas, Assad did not have the opportunity to attack along the entire front. This is a fact. The naked truth. Tales about chemical weapons have arisen now only because, Armed containment has become a reality. Americans are not stupid, so it seems to us. Previously, many doubted their participation, but now there is no doubt. The fairy tale has played its ominous role. About 30 countries are already ready to support the amers, which means the costs will be divided equally among everyone. It’s not just a Saudi prince appeared in Moscow. Not just.