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Military operation in Syria may begin in the coming days

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Military operation in Syria may begin in the coming days

The US authorities promise in the coming days to publish a report on the use of chemical in Syria weapons. The corresponding order was signed by the head of the White House, Barack Obama. In Washington, there is almost no doubt that the toxic substances were used by the Bashar al-Assad regime. To find out whether it is so or not, a special UN commission is trying, which is now working in the Arab Republic. And the world media, meanwhile, is confident: the United States and European allies are ready at any moment to launch a military operation in Syria.


Will the Western countries begin a military operation in Syria, and if so, when? Worldwide, analysts are trying to answer this question, and are eagerly awaiting the results of the investigation of the UN commission. Experts should find out whether chemical weapons were used in the Arab Republic. Experts arrived in the 26 region of August and almost immediately came under fire.

“I was informed that a sniper had fired at the commission’s column. Despite this, our team returned to Damascus and continued its work. The experts visited two hospitals, talked to the victims, witnesses and doctors, and also took some samples. - said UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

Without waiting for the outcome of the investigation, Washington in absentia accused Bashar al-Assad of using prohibited weapons. The White House allegedly has irrefutable evidence. True, what exactly, do not say.

"We will continue consultations with Congress. President Barack Obama will continue to negotiate with our key allies to decide how to respond to the use of chemical weapons in Syria. But make no mistake, President Obama is sure that those who use chemical weapons cannot be forgiveness, "- categorically John Kerry, US Secretary of State.

A little to defuse the situation tried US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel. During a visit to Indonesia, he said that America was not going to start a new war.

“Until we collect all the facts, and we will not be absolutely sure what exactly is happening in Syria, I will not be able to talk about the further actions of the United States and their consequences,” he said.

If the international military campaign against Syria does begin, the European allies will support the United States. First of all, the UK and France will go for it. Germany also promises not to stand aside.

"The use of chemical weapons is a crime against humanity. If reports of poisoning by the Bashar al-Assad regime are proven, the international community must take action. And Germany will not stand aside," said Guido Westerwelle, the German foreign minister.

Moscow, in turn, opposes military intervention. Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov urged Western partners to follow international agreements on Syria, reached earlier.

“I think we are already seeing the dire consequences of previous interventions in conflicts in this region. Look at what is happening in Libya. The central government, with which we maintain a dialogue, does not control the vast territories of our country. Arms went to Mali, where they were repulsed, but they are also feared in other countries, particularly in Niger and Chad. Look at Iraq, where dozens of people die every day and hundreds are injured in bloody terrorist acts. " - urged the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

The newspaper The Guardian, meanwhile, believes that the operation in Syria may begin in the coming days. According to the newspaper, London has already transferred additional military aircraft to its air base in Cyprus. It is located just 160 kilometers off the coast of Syria. The air base in Akrotiri is expected to become the main transport hub of the military campaign. In this capacity, she has already acted during the international operation in Libya in 2011.

And the publication of The Washington Post conducted a survey among readers: is it worth Western countries to intervene in the Syrian conflict? Nearly two thirds of readers are opposed. In the comments to the article, users are reminded of the events in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. People believe that the United States is now more than ever close to unleashing another senseless bloody war.
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  1. gud123
    gud123 27 August 2013 09: 01
    +50
    The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!! angry
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 27 August 2013 09: 06
      +32
      Quote: gud123
      The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!!


      Yeah. I quote an opinion

      Lavrov: Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013.
      1. domokl
        domokl 27 August 2013 09: 25
        +50
        Quote: Vadivak
        Lavrov: Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013.

        That's right. Why fight on your own? There are excellent weapons systems that can cope for us. The Syrians and Iranians will actually start fighting. This is enough for a cold shower in the form of coffins in Europe and the USA.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 27 August 2013 09: 51
          +32
          Quote: domokl
          That's right. Why fight yourself?

          Alexander, hi ! Yury Krupnov, the Russian political and public figure, chairman of the Development Movement, spoke very harshly about this:

          - Before us is the second edition of the great "Iraqi deception", when the political establishment of the United States and Great Britain went for a political forgery to start hostilities and the subsequent occupation of Iraq in 2003. If then the forgery consisted in the assertion that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction, now they want to do the same with Syria, using for this the fact that Assad allegedly used chemical weapons.
          In this situation, the Russian leadership needs a system of strict measures to prevent the escalation of the conflict and the intervention of foreign powers in it, which could very well trigger the outbreak of the third world war.
          For one and a half years, the Russian foreign policy establishment has not taken any serious measures to strengthen Russia's position on this issue. And over the past six months, especially after the offensive of the Syrian army began, and Assad’s troops transferred the strategic initiative, Russian diplomats show hatred at all.

        2. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 30
          -18%
          Quote: domokl
          There are excellent weapons systems that can handle us. The Syrians and Iranians will actually start fighting

          Who will pay for these systems - with an almost zero chance of returning the invested?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 12: 32
            +33
            Quote: Pimply
            Who will pay for these systems - with an almost zero chance of returning the invested?

            Eugene, when the world is on the brink, it does not matter.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 12: 49
              -21%
              The world is not on the edge, Sash. And even when he is on the verge - everything has a price.
              1. regsSSSR
                regsSSSR 27 August 2013 16: 02
                +11
                Quote: Pimply
                The world is not on the edge, Sash. And even when he is on the verge - everything has a price.


                or maybe it’s not worth it to drive the world to the edge only in order to get your own price! the price is already very prohibitively high even for the corral
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2013 16: 36
                  -4
                  Quote: regressSSSR
                  or maybe it’s not worth it to drive the world to the edge only in order to get your own price! the price is already very prohibitively high even for the corral
                  What are you talking about?
                  1. regsSSSR
                    regsSSSR 27 August 2013 17: 31
                    +12
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Quote: regressSSSR
                    or maybe it’s not worth it to drive the world to the edge only in order to get your own price! the price is already very prohibitively high even for the corral
                    What are you talking about?


                    all about the same! that the United States began to play war! about the fact that for a long time they themselves, in a lie of two-facedness and world aggression, crossed the conditionally red line that they drew for Syria! that Romanov is right, the world is already on the brink, and after the fall of Syria, the consequences for the world will be completely unpredictable even for the customer of this show! that for the sake of reaching for purely selfish interests, amers puts the whole world on the brink of a hollow and, in the pursuit of profit and the return of a shaky status of an image of a superpower, this campaign can prove fatal for them!
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 27 August 2013 17: 52
                      0
                      Quote: regressSSSR
                      all about the same! that the United States began to play war! about the fact that for a long time they themselves, in a lie of two-facedness and world aggression, crossed the conditionally red line that they drew for Syria! that Romanov is right, the world is already on the brink, and after the fall of Syria, the consequences for the world will be completely unpredictable even for the customer of this show! that for the sake of reaching for purely selfish interests, amers puts the whole world on the brink of a hollow and, in the pursuit of profit and the return of a shaky status of an image of a superpower, this campaign can prove fatal for them!

                      Any major power plays war games. Because it is the advancement of one’s interests.
                      1. regsSSSR
                        regsSSSR 27 August 2013 18: 07
                        +6
                        Quote: Pimply

                        Any major power plays war games. Because it is the advancement of one’s interests.


                        I agree! only appetite comes with eating! and he is prohibitively high in the usa! Having played a bit, they already do not notice the line beyond which the world can slide into the abyss (although they can certainly fall into this and specially let it down)
                      2. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 August 2013 18: 11
                        +1
                        They try not to fall off the train, which already carries without them
                      3. regsSSSR
                        regsSSSR 27 August 2013 20: 01
                        0
                        Quote: Pimply
                        They try not to fall off the train, which already carries without them


                        also an option and besides chutli is not the worst possible because there it all leads to and where the unreasonable or stupidly-stubborn or just do uncontrolled trains all of us are aware !!! (especially as dangerous as the American ones) and in this vein of the development of events for the rest of the world, there is only one thing left to use is the phrase from the hackneyed Amerovsk films and the pretentiously pronounced usually by the President of the United States (and may God help us all)
          2. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 28 August 2013 01: 04
            +3
            Quote: Pimply
            The world is not on the edge, Sash. And even when he is on the verge - everything has a price.


            Mature, balanced cynicism. From true not far, but not in this case. Here we must pay the Syrians to destroy the bearded more actively.
          3. Evgeniy-111
            Evgeniy-111 28 August 2013 08: 31
            -1
            But not to join the United States?
            Until they joined us in their own way!
      2. Alexei
        Alexei 27 August 2013 13: 23
        +14
        Quote: Pimply
        Who will pay for these systems - with an almost zero chance of returning the invested?

        Again you ... Well, let it be for you (the trader) an advertisement for Russian products. We must see her in action. And again, the losses of the attackers on Syria will be much more than ours (the gift of weapons). Or do you not think so? What do you think? I am at a loss ...
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 13: 36
          -24%
          Quote: Alexej
          Again you ... Well, let it be for you (the trader) an advertisement for Russian products. We must see her in action. And again, the losses of the attackers on Syria will be much more than ours (the gift of weapons).

          Do you get personal, sweetie?
          And if it turns out to be less, there will be an unpleasant surprise and a couple more of the lost billions for which you could replenish the pension fund, for example?
          1. Alexei
            Alexei 27 August 2013 13: 44
            +21
            Quote: Pimply
            And if it turns out to be less, there will be an unpleasant surprise and a couple more of the lost billions for which you could replenish the pension fund, for example?

            There will be a more unpleasant surprise if this happens on our territory, and then all your pension funds cried, sweetie.
            1. elmi
              elmi 27 August 2013 15: 07
              +15
              It seems that all countries play their roles in advance, including Russia. From the moment of the collapse of the USSR, especially in the last years of the USSR under Gorbachev and to the current government, I see treason against Russia. Otherwise, how to explain the constant step-by-step surrender of the positions: to list for a long time here are some of the many surrenders: the collapse of the organization of the Warsaw Pact countries, I understand the collapse of the USSR, but it was possible to create a similar counterbalance to NATO, the closer countries to the borders of Russia, allowed to divide Yugoslavia, the fall of Iraq , Libya, now it is also possible to Syria, then what is Iran? Otherwise, how could we explain the refusal of deliveries of c-300 to Iran, perhaps they didn’t deliver Syria, I read it as if we didn’t put Syria’s combat fighters and many weapons that would permanently discourage the desire to attack Syria. It turns out that fulfilling the request of Israel and America, our authorities thereby gave Syria absent-mindedly to be torn to pieces by the NATO, and in order to save our face we support the supply of weak Syrian weapons, we are demonstratively conducting the squadron exercises off the coast of Syria to make it clear that Syria is under protection. Now the aggravated situation of the 2 fleet Usa getting ready for aggression and where is our fleet? and he sailed in advance to the shores of Australia and to Cuba with Venezuela. One question ... but not everything is so hopeless - the example with the defense of Abkhazia and South Ossetia showed that we can show our will contrary to the west. But there are practically no such examples I want more.
              1. Luger
                Luger 27 August 2013 15: 19
                -18%
                a lot of letters, half is not in the business, the second half has nothing to do with the topic at all, from the category just to "crap"
                1. elmi
                  elmi 27 August 2013 15: 28
                  +13
                  I express my point of view and do not impose it on you, I outlined my knowledge of the reasons for a possible war against Syria, but it's easier for you to minus and cheat opponents who disagree with your point of view.
              2. V. Ushakov
                V. Ushakov 27 August 2013 16: 36
                +9
                We need about 5 years to re-equip and re-equip the army. While we are weak, we must admit this in order to quickly eliminate this deficiency. What we really need to do is strengthen the military-industrial complex in every possible way, and this must be done headlong and quickly. And to lean on the Strategic Missile Forces, medium and short-range nuclear missiles. Namely - nuclear ones and place them along the western and southern borders, including the border with Ukraine, which is trying to get into the lackeys of NATO and the EU. The time of ceremonial "friendship" has passed, now the usual, harsh, wartime. It's time to understand, no one will spare us.
                1. Normal
                  Normal 27 August 2013 18: 51
                  +17
                  Quote: V. Ushakov
                  We lack about 5 years to re-equip and rearm the army.

                  Us ALWAYS NOT ENOUGHyears to rearm the army.
                  It is time to understand that rearmament is a constant and endless process. All the talk that we are about to be ready, or vice versa, that we did not have enough time to prepare and rearm, is just an excuse for inaction or betrayal. In extreme cases, propaganda designed to hide the real causes of what happened.
                  1. Nicola
                    Nicola 27 August 2013 20: 48
                    +6
                    The same leaders have been in power for 23 years. There wasn’t enough time to rearm, but there was enough time to pull away the country’s previously acquired. Everything is very muddy.
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 27 August 2013 21: 08
                  +12
                  Quote: V. Ushakov
                  We are missing about 5 years for the re-equipment and rearmament of the army

                  Nonsense and self-deception!
                  while the Serdyukovs and others like them rule, and in freedom these 5 years will constantly be missed!
                  1. 31231
                    31231 27 August 2013 21: 54
                    +1
                    Jews, Azerbaijanis ........ everyone is teaching Russia how to live and build an army. Guys, do you have enough of your own problems ?! Or do you have no one to talk to ?!
                  2. Zhilan_kz
                    Zhilan_kz 28 August 2013 06: 53
                    +3
                    Hello, they don’t teach but worry about Russia! One can listen to someone else’s opinion rather than slide into dividing people into nations. Or invite site admins to ban All users not from Russia, that’s probably going to be cool talking !? Oh, there’s another solution - you can blame it on some website for Natsiks, there many will support your point of view!
                  3. 31231
                    31231 28 August 2013 09: 32
                    +1
                    Where did you see the habits of the nationalist ?! How can I address people with flags of Azerbaijan or Israel when they speak out with moralizing towards Russia ?! Citizens of the world ?! What is offensive about the words "Azerbaijani, Jew"? Moreover, many are proud of their nationality, of course not to the detriment of others.
          2. gud123
            gud123 27 August 2013 20: 07
            +1
            It seems that all countries play their roles in advance, including Russia.

            This is the theater of the absurd.
          3. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 August 2013 21: 06
            +11
            And they said here they definitely won’t surrender to Syria!
            I’m sure they will surrender then and now, the question is only in price, alas!
            I remember when Assad in an interview announced that the S-300 complexes were already in Syria, then the very next day Putin said that it wasn’t that the complexes hadn’t been delivered yet !!
            One must be realistic, present-day Russia is very far from the USSR and cannot stand up to the West!
            The forces are unequal!
      3. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 27 August 2013 18: 23
        +5
        Quote: Pimply
        And if it turns out to be less, there will be an unpleasant surprise and a couple more of the lost billions for which you could replenish the pension fund, for example?

        Didn’t you, in an hour, advise the Ukrainian side on economically disadvantageous entry into the CU?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 18: 25
          -1
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Didn’t you, in an hour, advise the Ukrainian side on economically disadvantageous entry into the CU?

          Tell me, what is the benefit of writing off 14 billions of debt?
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 27 August 2013 18: 42
            +4
            Quote: Pimply
            Tell me, what is the benefit of writing off 14 billions of debt?

            I won’t say - my head is not so big ... laughing
          2. Stas
            Stas 27 August 2013 19: 18
            +2
            Dear, not everything is bought for money. Please do not confuse us with the Americans, who will sell their mother.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 19: 25
              +7
              Quote: Stas
              Dear, not everything is bought for money. Please do not confuse us with the Americans, who will sell their mother.

              Not all. As practice has shown, countries that accept gratuitous cash assistance, very easily betrayed the USSR, and just as easily sell Russia.
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 August 2013 23: 48
              +3
              Quote: Stas
              Dear, not everything is bought for money. Please do not confuse us with the Americans, who will sell their mother.

              Apparently, the Saudi prince who recently arrived in Moscow managed to * convince * Putin on the Syrian issue, although everyone wrote here that Russia did not go to persuade!
              You can personally not sell anyone, and whom do you have when you say do not confuse US ??
              1. Stas
                Stas 28 August 2013 00: 02
                +2
                Quote: Yarbay

                Apparently, the Saudi prince who recently arrived in Moscow managed to * convince * Putin on the Syrian issue, although everyone wrote here that Russia did not go to persuade!
                You can personally not sell anyone, and whom do you have when you say do not confuse US ??

                I mean the overwhelming majority of the population of Russia, but the family is not without freaks.
                And on the bill, the country's leadership would like to believe that they will not surrender to Syria. Otherwise, everything will turn away from Russia ....
      4. 31231
        31231 27 August 2013 19: 04
        +4
        And why do not you think the money of the Israeli Pension Fund when the territory of Syria is being bombed? Why don’t we Russians care about spending Israel’s budget? Do you care about other people's problems?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 19: 07
          -4
          Quote: 31231
          And why do not you think the money of the Israeli Pension Fund when the territory of Syria is being bombed? Why don’t we Russians care about spending Israel’s budget? Do you care about other people's problems?

          Because Israel does not throw billions of dollars into adventures.
          1. 31231
            31231 27 August 2013 20: 50
            +3
            Do you like to count other people's money? For what? Envy?! or is it professional and you are an accountant?
            The war of 2006 and the bombing of Damascus, what dividends have brought you?
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 20: 56
              -1
              Quote: 31231
              Do you like to count other people's money? For what? Envy?! or is it professional and you are an accountant?
              The war of 2006 and the bombing of Damascus, what dividends have brought you?

              My friend, who told you that they are strangers? I pay taxes in Russia. And you ?
              1. 31231
                31231 27 August 2013 22: 02
                +1
                Bulk hope also pays.

                Do you know the difference in what ?! I do not boast that I pay taxes. For it is routine and necessity. I am not indignant that this money is being stolen somewhere there, because I didn’t stand on a chipper there. I do not resent the poor medicine and roads, for my grandfathers in more difficult times lived and did not moan. But I am proud that I am Russian and live in Russia.
                If I do not like power, I will go to the polls, not the barricades.
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 22: 28
                +1
                Quote: 31231
                But I am proud that I am Russian and live in Russia.

                Pride is not just a bulging nose, and assume that let everything be done by uncle. Like criticism, and concern about what taxes are spent on is not hatred of the country, it is concern for it.
              3. 31231
                31231 27 August 2013 22: 44
                0
                That is, criticism of Navalny's concern for Russia ?!
                Something I rarely see representatives of Israel criticize their authority. Is she perfect there?

                I’m not far away, I thought that caring for Russia is observing its laws and fulfilling its duty when it requires. And you see how ?! it must be constantly criticized.
              4. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 23: 11
                +1
                [
                Quote: 31231
                That is, criticism of Navalny's concern for Russia ?!
                Something I rarely see representatives of Israel criticize their authority. Is she perfect there?

                Well, maybe you should read more? The Israelites' favorite pastime is kicking their politicians. And - in Israel, corrupt officials are being planted.
              5. 31231
                31231 27 August 2013 23: 43
                0
                It’s a fairy tale, not a state. If everything is OK, then why should Israel not refuse the help of the USA and gesheft from Germany?
              6. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 23: 52
                0
                Quote: 31231
                . If everything is OK, then why should Israel not refuse US assistance

                Is it said somewhere about a fairy-tale state? No. Israel receives assistance from the States on an equal basis with Egypt, for refusing a piece of land twice its size.
  • Evgeniy-111
    Evgeniy-111 28 August 2013 08: 33
    +1
    If you beat a housemate - help those who hit you, maybe something will come from your bounty!
  • Don
    Don 27 August 2013 13: 57
    +2
    Quote: Pimply
    Who will pay for these systems - with an almost zero chance of returning the invested?

    Iran has money to pay, and if Syria holds back, then there then Russian companies will get a bunch of contracts.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 14: 03
      -5
      Quote: Don
      Iran has money to pay, and if Syria holds back, then there then Russian companies will get a bunch of contracts.

      Yes? Syria is currently asking for loans. Iran is experiencing serious economic difficulties due to the boycott, and are potential contracts for a country to which Russia recently wrote off 14 billion debt?
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      2. 31231
        31231 27 August 2013 19: 09
        +1
        Do you know shoto for Iran? Oh wow! and why do these Jews consider themselves smarter than others ?!
      3. ultra
        ultra 27 August 2013 21: 13
        +2
        Quote: Pimply
        Russia wrote off 14 billion debt?

        Soviet debts! We wrote them off to a lot of people! hi
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 21: 27
          -1
          Quote: ultra
          Soviet debts! We wrote them off to a lot of people!

          There are not only Soviet ones. Syria and now took a loan. I wonder how it will give.
  • shpuntik
    shpuntik 27 August 2013 14: 03
    +8
    Avatar Senior Lieutenant
    Pimpled (1) RU Today, 11:30 ↑
    Who will pay for these systems - with an almost zero chance of returning the invested?

    So SHA and England, (Entente in our opinion :-), pay for the war with the calculation of return on investment? good Eugene, if not Freud’s reservation, then at least it’s wonderful for the purpose. Namely: war is a business.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 14: 13
      0
      Quote: shpuntik
      So SHA and England, (Entente in our opinion :-), pay for the war with the calculation of return on investment?

      Do you doubt it?
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 27 August 2013 15: 56
        +5
        Pimpled (1) RU Today, 14:13 ↑
        Do you doubt it?

        No, I didn’t doubt it. I didn’t know that you were sure of that ...
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 16: 38
          +2
          Quote: shpuntik
          No, I didn’t doubt it. I didn’t know that you were sure of that ...

          Moreover, every country, including Russia, is seeking benefits. Only Russia very often invests huge amounts of money, getting minimal exhaust. Here is the main difference.
          1. 31231
            31231 27 August 2013 19: 16
            +2
            And the US was already invested so much that only an official public debt of 17 trillion. And it’s not a shame for your state to take material assistance from a debtor ?! Is Israel in poverty like Egypt?
          2. shpuntik
            shpuntik 27 August 2013 21: 12
            +6
            Pimpled (1) RU Today, 16:38 ↑
            Moreover, every country, including Russia, is seeking benefits. Only Russia very often invests huge amounts of money, getting minimal exhaust. Here is the main difference.

            Here I agree completely, how much the Union spent on the world revolution is incomprehensible to the mind. Official debts of 10-12 billion, but how many are unofficial? No one knows.
            Let's see what Sha with homies will win. Will not the "empire of good" receive, an aspen stake in the back?
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 21: 31
              -2
              Quote: shpuntik
              Let's see what Sha with homies will win. Will not the "empire of good" receive, an aspen stake in the back?

              Will not receive. They have a bigger pocket, and they think it’s better.
          3. ultra
            ultra 27 August 2013 21: 15
            +5
            Quote: Pimply
            Only Russia very often invests huge amounts of money, getting minimal exhaust.

            Exactly! For example, American depositary receipts.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 21: 33
              0
              Quote: ultra
              Exactly! For example, American depositary receipts.

              Do not make me laugh.
              Hundreds of billions swollen into Africa, smacked into infinity - yes.
              1. ultra
                ultra 28 August 2013 13: 31
                +1
                Do not confuse “God's gift” with “scrambled eggs!” There is money from the USSR, and Russian money is invested in American securities.
          4. tomket
            tomket 27 August 2013 23: 47
            +2
            At the moment, the situation is like a reversal, a minimum of funds, and unnecessary hustle and bustle with the maximum effect, it’s the West that is now rolling up in weekly Istria about Syria, especially Åland makes itself look like a total jerk, Russia says with restraint, gentlemen, no! and so actually two years. By the way, in the evening it turned out that Obama didn’t really want to give the order for the bombing, he would have called the congressmen, who would only announce themselves in September and somehow languidly, despite the peppy reports of the military, but again the oland was stretched like a pug, once again posing as a laughing stock.
      2. vostok68
        vostok68 27 August 2013 16: 25
        +8
        So I do not quite understand your comments? Do you hope to live well after the war? Let me ask, are you a military officer? If so, which state? Do you know the history of the Great Patriotic War?
    2. regsSSSR
      regsSSSR 27 August 2013 16: 59
      +7
      [quote] shpuntik [/ quote]
      [Quote]So SHA and England, (Entente in our opinion :-), pay for the war with the calculation of return on investment? good Eugene, if not Freud’s reservation, then at least it’s wonderful for the purpose. Namely: war is a business.[/ Quote][/ Quote]

      the ideology in wars has long receded into the third plan and is used only to achieve the main goal (uninterrupted enrichment); sha has long ago turned the world into a war of corporations whose purpose is to control and uninterrupted income and profit (the world feeder in general! sha always act like a global Paroza who has gone all the way to what they can reach and the worse they become gluttonous Ameri’s parozite, the tentacles rummage around the world more intensively in search of prey) and why not fumble, because some tentacles do not chop off (impunity! the main trump card is from here and exorbitant appetite because there are so many possibilities using the main trump card of strength! and the power is idle for free! and the ideology binds hands doesn’t put an army into battle! conclusion or use the ideology for your own purposes, which means LIE and LIE !! and if you don’t help, just throw it in the trash and I’m blaming it on the attack and it’s going to drive! that in principle we are right now and we are witnessing the EMPIRE OF EVIL in action, what can I say!
  • AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 27 August 2013 18: 48
    +2
    AND YOU ARE A BUSINESSMAN, DADY! YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ALL:
  • Cynic
    Cynic 27 August 2013 19: 19
    +1
    Quote: Pimply
    Who will pay for these systems

    Offer to pay later with Russian blood?
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 19: 36
      +3
      I’m just against paying with Russian blood. Or do you assume that the entrance to the war in Syria will not be paid for it?
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 27 August 2013 19: 50
        +2
        Quote: Pimply
        Or do you assume that the entrance to the war in Syria will not be paid for it?

        And where did I say that?
        Respected Pimply , do not
        From a sick head to a healthy one

        It is not regrettable for Russia, but apart from deliveries of equipment, it cannot help Syria now.
        It has already been said, now the main thing _ Will fit Is Iran for Syria!
        hi
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 19: 56
          0
          Quote: Cynic
          It is not regrettable for Russia, but apart from deliveries of equipment, it cannot help Syria now.
          It has already been said that the main thing now is _ Will Iran fit into Syria!

          Will fit in. But not directly.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 27 August 2013 20: 16
            +2
            Quote: Pimply
            Will fit in. But not directly.

            Oh well .
            Like, it said _ Hold on! Mentally with you?
            Many aren’t directly, the main thing is that it’s important directly!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 20: 23
              0
              They are not suicides
        2. ulugbek
          ulugbek 27 August 2013 22: 11
          +2
          Will Iran fit into Syria? It will fit in! I believe the West will not bomb Syria. This is just a tantrum. They just want to scare Russia for not obeying. lol
  • svp67
    svp67 28 August 2013 01: 15
    0
    Quote: Pimply
    Who will pay for these systems - with an almost zero chance of returning the invested?
    if they are effective enough, then future buyers ... Sometimes, to earn more, you need to make a discount ...
  • mnn_13
    mnn_13 27 August 2013 19: 03
    +5
    Lavrov is an intelligent person and understands that holding the Syrian border at this stage is impossible. Two factors here - geographical - Syria is surrounded by enemies and in a real war the Mediterranean Sea will be only a trap for the Russian fleet. Another factor is that Russia itself is opposed to the United States and NATO without prospects. It is necessary China will suspend small games. What is happening now affects much more China than Russia. The latter, unlike the former, has many natural resources. A close to neutral position of China would not bring him anything good ...
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 1 September 2013 15: 24
    0
    Quote: domokl
    That's right. Why fight yourself?
    They themselves will not. Tomahawks and the opposition are so called to them why? The Libyan script will be finalized slightly and the whole business.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 09: 33
    +14
    Quote: Vadivak

    Lavrov: Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013.

    Hi Vadim! You suggest starting a full-scale warrior on the side of Syria, but this is the 3rd world request Dolbanut in Syria and the whole region is burning, the amers will drown there.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 27 August 2013 10: 31
      +6
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Hi Vadim! You propose starting a full-fledged warrior on the side of Syria

      Great, Sasha.
      I suggest? Where did you read that? I quoted the opinion of our Foreign Ministry, with which I completely agree, not that country is not even fighting, but making statements.
      Statements about full-scale wars on the side of Syria remained in the distant past, in a country with an independent economy in the era of Leonid Ilyich.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 10: 37
        +4
        Quote: Vadivak
        Full-scale war statements

        Yes, here I am hi
      2. ksan
        ksan 27 August 2013 11: 37
        +6
        Statements about full-scale wars on the side of Syria remained in the distant past, in a country with an independent economy in the era of Leonid Ilyich
        In-in Russia is not a Union to "bang on the table with his fist" (unfortunately wink )
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 12: 28
          -2
          Exactly. Pounding is too often very expensive.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 27 August 2013 18: 18
            +2
            Quote: Pimply
            Pounding is too often very expensive.

            The question should sound differently: "The man said, the man did"
            If we had not rested then with Cuba, we would not have been respected.
            Like in the 90s ....
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 18: 22
              -6
              Quote: Pilat2009
              If we had not rested then with Cuba, we would not have been respected.

              Remember, I hope that that circus with Cuba almost ended in a nuclear conflict? In which the United States would have an advantage.
              1. ultra
                ultra 27 August 2013 21: 19
                +3
                Quote: Pimply
                In which the United States would have an advantage.

                It was a fact! They could destroy us 10 times, and we only 5 of them! lol
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2013 21: 40
                  -1
                  At the beginning of the 60, the USSR had problems with delivery vehicles. That’s why warheads were placed in Cuba
                  1. Corsair
                    Corsair 27 August 2013 22: 31
                    +3
                    Quote: Pimply
                    At the beginning of the 60, the USSR had problems with delivery vehicles. That’s why warheads were placed in Cuba


                    Yes, and in response to the deployment of missiles in Turkey.
                  2. ultra
                    ultra 27 August 2013 22: 45
                    +1
                    You have discovered the secret of the General!
              2. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 27 August 2013 21: 53
                +3
                Quote: Pimply
                Remember, I hope that that circus with Cuba almost ended in a nuclear conflict?

                I repeat once again that sometimes it is necessary to demonstrate iron eggs
                Outcome-Cuba as it was social and remained, missiles from Turkey withdrawn.
                Americans also want to live, and it’s good
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2013 22: 31
                  -1
                  Quote: Pilat2009
                  Outcome-Cuba as it was social and remained, missiles from Turkey withdrawn.
                  Yeah. Recall how much was swollen in it, and that miraculously escaped war. Although in that situation it was true. But I apologize, Russia is not the USSR, and it has other possibilities.
                  1. studentmati
                    studentmati 27 August 2013 22: 33
                    +1
                    Quote: Pimply
                    But I apologize, Russia is not the USSR, and it has other possibilities.


                    Significantly smaller?
                  2. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 August 2013 23: 12
                    +1
                    Quote: studentmati
                    Significantly smaller
                    Absolutely.
    2. Don
      Don 27 August 2013 14: 00
      +2
      Quote: Vadivak
      Statements about full-scale wars on the side of Syria remained in the distant past, in a country with an independent economy in the era of Leonid Ilyich.

      You want to say that the economy of the USSR was completely independent? You're wrong. Not one country in the world completely does not have an independent economy.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 27 August 2013 14: 43
        +2
        Quote: Don
        You want to say that the economy of the USSR was completely independent?


        You wishful thinking is reality. If I wrote completely independent, then there would be a discussion
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 27 August 2013 10: 05
    +8
    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: gud123
    The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!!


    Yeah. I quote an opinion

    Lavrov: Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013.


    The whole world understood Lavrov's statement literally in this way - a disgrace! Lavrov needed at least to make it clear that Russia would not surrender Assad, at least to hint. And he was "blown away" in the open.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 10: 14
      +11
      Quote: Ruslan_F38
      Lavrov had to at least make it clear that Russia would not surrender Assad, at least hint

      And then, when the US begins to hammer Syria, what should he say? And what will you say, Lavrov is a liar?
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 27 August 2013 10: 20
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        Lavrov had to at least make it clear that Russia would not surrender Assad, at least hint

        And then, when the US begins to hammer Syria, what should he say? And what will you say, Lavrov is a liar?

        I will not, if in addition to Lavrov's words there are deeds of our government. I still believe that it is necessary to intervene, especially since Assad made such a request to the BRICS countries. Our troops there will be the guarantor that the West will not "shoot" at Syria. There will be provocations, but there will be no attack. Lavrov needed to be informed about this, and our troops had to begin the transfer. I think even that was enough to sit down at the negotiating table with the United States and its allies.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 10: 40
          +3
          Quote: Ruslan_F38

          I won’t if besides the words of Lavrov there will be deeds of our government

          Damn, well, the second day I get everyone with similar comments to you — WHAT NOW CAN RUSSIA DO?
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          I still think it’s necessary to intervene,

          Where to Syria, well, we will send a regiment there, well, two. How will these forces interfere?
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 27 August 2013 11: 19
            +6
            it’s extremely dangerous to send our children there and hope that they will become a shield and guarantor for non-aggression against Syria. On the other hand, if we hypothetically assume that, nevertheless, our troops will be located in Syria and an attack will be committed in their direction, then this can be considered a declaration of war on Russia. This scenario can lead to two options:
            1) our fighters will die from cruise missile attacks, the Russian Federation simply will have no options for how to respond, and then 3 world war.
            2) "friends of Syria" will not dare to go on an adventure and cancel the company, having recouped on comprehensive aid to the rebels.
            I really do not want to get involved in this conflict, but if after all that we have opposed to the Western "arguments", in the event of an attack on Syria by the united coalition, the Russian Federation will remain silent, then they will simply cease to reckon with us. The UN Security Council will finally cease to have the possibility of at least some influence. Any plans in relation to any sovereign country will be resolved within the aggressor countries - we will slide into the Middle Ages.
            Oh, somehow I’m scared, not very calm.
            Still, it is not in vain that the Russian Federation is arming itself to the teeth. But it was correctly said that all this is a training against the Russian Federation. And then what will we do? if such a scenario is implemented against us? let’s not bomb our cities? what then, comrades?
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 35
            -1
            Everyone, Sash, believes that to be a superpower is to snap your fingers.
            1. Ruslan_F38
              Ruslan_F38 27 August 2013 15: 01
              +7
              Quote: Pimply
              Everyone, Sash, believes that to be a superpower is to snap your fingers.


              Everyone here just believes that it is better to sit out in the bushes, and this is clearly not a sign of the population of the superpower. They just forget - the next after Syria, Iran and Russia. Explain to me, but what do you think Russia should do? To speak in a useless and criminal UN? Threaten with a finger? Well, of course, this is exactly what the enemies of Russia like your beloved Israel would like. What would be more beneficial for the United States, Israel and other criminal countries - of course, that Russia would not fit into this conflict. So do not fool others around your head.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 15: 05
                -1
                Quote: Ruslan_F38
                Everyone here just believes that it is better to sit out in the bushes, and this is clearly not a sign of the population of the superpower. They just forget - the next after Syria, Iran and Russia. Explain to me, but what do you think Russia should do?

                First of all, learn to count events, learn to count money, and build a normal economy and army. Less often to say - it has no analogues and get into meaningless messes. And the rest will come.
                1. 31231
                  31231 27 August 2013 19: 31
                  +3
                  Do you have any experience in governing a country that you are smart here? Meaningless mess ?! And what did the conflict in Lebanon give you in 2006? Have you earned money?
                  Your country has gesheft from the USA and Germany, do you offer Russia to earn the same way ?!
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 August 2013 19: 50
                    -5
                    Quote: 31231
                    Do you have any experience in governing a country that you are smart here? Meaningless mess ?! And what did the conflict in Lebanon give you in 2006? Have you earned money?
                    Your country has gesheft from the USA and Germany, do you offer Russia to earn the same way ?!

                    My friend. You're bursting with tension right now. 8) Do not make laugh 8)
                  2. 31231
                    31231 27 August 2013 21: 03
                    +3
                    Familiarity ?! Or maybe arrogance ?!
                    I asked simple questions. Maybe you do not want to answer, but why did you get the idea that we are with you ?! And why did you decide that someone you are unfamiliar with is your friend?
                  3. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 August 2013 21: 43
                    -4
                    Quote: 31231
                    Familiarity ?! Or maybe arrogance ?!
                    I asked simple questions. Maybe you do not want to answer, but why did you get the idea that we are with you ?! And why did you decide that someone you are unfamiliar with is your friend?

                    My friend, you did not ask simple questions, you were rude and rocked out. Why would I call a lout on you?
                    Can I ask a simple question - did you stop thirsty in the morning? Answer only yes or no. The question is simple. Carlson invented it.
                  4. 31231
                    31231 27 August 2013 22: 11
                    +2
                    Why then, I'm not surprised by your "are you rude and you stopped drinking in the morning?"

                    Ask the question more specifically, because it simply does not say "what" to drink. And what do you mean by "plump" ?! Or what would be simpler, take a look at how the phrase sounded in the source code?
                  5. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 August 2013 22: 33
                    -7
                    Quote: 31231
                    Ask the question more specifically, because it simply does not say "what" to drink. And what do you mean by "plump" ?! Or what would be simpler, take a look at how the phrase sounded in the source code?

                    I remember the source. But we are not about him. You, my friend, cannot answer a simple question: did you stop thirsty in the morning?
                  6. 31231
                    31231 27 August 2013 22: 51
                    +3
                    Who is a friend? Your dog?! She thumps in the morning ?! What does this look like? otherwise I somehow can’t imagine it.
                  7. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 August 2013 23: 13
                    -3
                    Quote: 31231
                    Who is a friend? Your dog?! She thumps in the morning ?! What does this look like? otherwise I somehow can’t imagine it.

                    Man, well, don’t worry so much.
                  8. 31231
                    31231 27 August 2013 23: 36
                    0
                    Okay, I’m taking my leave. The discussion was not always substantive, but nevertheless did not slip into the meeting. Good luck communicating with your friend.
                  9. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 August 2013 23: 54
                    -3
                    Quote: 31231
                    Good luck communicating with your friend.

                    My friend, because from the fact that you are trying to talk, your essence does not change;)
  • Ustas
    Ustas 27 August 2013 13: 38
    +8
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Where to Syria, well, we will send a regiment there, well, two. How will these forces interfere?

    Unfortunately, you can’t sit out anymore.
    The ax of war was brought not over Syria, but over Russia.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 34
    -3
    Will you volunteer? Or send your son? Will you pay for the operation? Can you imagine how much such a war would cost? Or are you one of those who think that money is paper, and mothers give birth to new sons? Do you want to warm up the Caucasus and finally kill relations with the Sunnis?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 12: 38
      +8
      Quote: Pimply
      Will you pay for the operation?

      It's not about the money, and there is money .if what. Just sending soldiers without logistics support, without support is nonsense. How to send aviation, where to land airplanes, where to replenish ammunition, where to refuel, etc., etc. AWACS is also gone, where and who to shoot. Strategist damn
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2013 12: 50
        -8
        Sasha, are you ready to throw a budget on Syria that could go to Russia? Without clear goals?
  • KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 27 August 2013 12: 41
    +11
    Absolutely true Ruslan. Why can't Syria ask Russia to help? Why can the US help those who execute 450 Kurds?

    3-world is nonsense. There is a check whose eggs are cooler.
    There were Vietnam, Afghanistan, Georgia, and the war remained cold ... There are no crazy people.

    Obama just wants to fix his image domestically. That is his goal.
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach 27 August 2013 14: 55
      +6
      Another option: pressure on Putin, before the G20 Summit, in St. Petersburg.
      Some of the commentators spoke in the spirit: now they will beat us for real. For Russia has proved its worth in the fight against "color revolutions". Jokes, the West is over, there are democratizer rockets.
  • Luger
    Luger 27 August 2013 15: 23
    0
    I agree that the main thing is not words but deeds. We will be silent, but to do our job, everyone will see and understand. Regarding the troops and their expedition to Syria, I do not agree. There is no support system for the troops, and it will not be possible to create, it becomes clear if you look at the world map. Troops can in principle be delivered, but they will be doomed.
  • Nitup
    Nitup 27 August 2013 10: 48
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And then, when the US begins to hammer Syria, what should he say? And what will you say, Lavrov is a liar?

    That's it, and I'm about the same. And then some heroes repeat to me that Lavrov had to hit the table and say that Russia will tear anyone who dares to bomb Syria
  • smersh70
    smersh70 27 August 2013 10: 31
    -5
    Quote: Ruslan_F38
    Russia will not surrender Assad, at least to hint. And he was "blown away" in the open.



    yesterday in another article, when I wrote that Assad was coming to an end ... 21 patriots gave me a minus wassat I said there that Russia will not fit into this matter, as in Vietnam ..... but they did not believe me ....... well, then, Lavrov obeyed me fellow
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 11: 02
      +4
      Quote: smersh70

      yesterday in another article, when I wrote that Assad is coming to an end ..

      Well, the END is still early, Assad has something to answer and blood can spoil a lot. Plus the fact that everything in the Middle is burning.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 38
        -9
        Now, in my opinion, the most likely Kosovo scenario: the partition of the country.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 12: 40
          +9
          Quote: Pimply
          in my opinion, the most probable Kosovo scenario: the partition of the country.

          Zhenya, in my opinion, is the most realistic scenario that the whole of the Near is burning along with Israel and more.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2013 12: 51
            -1
            Sash, the Middle East has been burning for the past several thousand years. War does not stop there.
            1. novobranets
              novobranets 27 August 2013 15: 11
              +6
              Quote: Pimply
              The Middle East has blazed over the past few thousand years
              I am afraid that compared to what may be, now it is smoldering.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 16: 39
                +2
                Oh oh But in 1973 everything could be much more fun.
                1. novobranets
                  novobranets 27 August 2013 17: 52
                  +2
                  Well, that cost, but whether it will always be lucky.
            2. builder
              builder 27 August 2013 18: 59
              0
              Sash, the Middle East has been burning for the past several thousand years. War does not stop there.

              Only now terrorists will use chemical weapons.
    2. Nitup
      Nitup 27 August 2013 11: 15
      +4
      Quote: smersh70
      yesterday in another article, when I wrote that Assad was coming to an end ... the patriots put me 21 minus, I said there that Russia would not fit into this matter, as in Vietnam ..... but they did not believe me ... .... Well, Lavrov obeyed me

      And what, before the war in Vietnam, the USSR declared that he would be at war with the USA?
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 27 August 2013 11: 33
        +3
        Quote: Nitup
        And what, before the war in Vietnam, the USSR declared that he would be at war with the USA?


        And then the USSR openly advocated Vietnam ... and did not hide its supplies and supplies of the allies under the Warsaw Treaty ..... and yesterday Lavrov openly said that we stand aside ... and as you know, the Foreign Minister for Subordinate to the Constitution of the President of the Country ..... and implements his orders ... so guys, we can argue here for a long time, write down or shame Assad ... the main thing is that the political leadership of Russia has officially stated that it will not interfere in the affairs of Syria .... and without Russia Assad will definitely not be sweet .... well, confronts a year, two, and th .... in the end it will be very hard for him ..... anyway, a kayuk ..... and Iran --- he will politically declare .... but in the end he will not enter into the open - he has his own burden heavy ... nothing to do .... to cover his ass ....
        1. Nitup
          Nitup 27 August 2013 11: 44
          +3
          Quote: smersh70
          And then the USSR openly advocated Vietnam ... and did not hide its supplies and supplies of the allies under the Warsaw Treaty ..... and yesterday Lavrov openly said that we stand aside ... and as you know, the Foreign Minister for Subordinate to the Constitution of the President of the Country ..... and implements his orders ... so guys, we can argue here for a long time, write down or shame Assad ... the main thing is that the political leadership of Russia has officially stated that it will not interfere in the affairs of Syria .... and without Russia Assad will definitely not be sweet .... well, confronts a year, two, and th .... in the end it will be very hard for him ..... anyway, a kayuk ..... and Iran --- he will politically declare .... but in the end he will not enter into the open - he has his own burden heavy ... nothing to do .... to cover his ass ....

          I do not agree with you. Soviet military experts were secretly in Vietnam. And Russia does not hide its supplies of military equipment to Syria either. Lavrov only stated that Russia would not enter the war openly and that’s all. I think the USSR also did not say that it would openly enter the war with the USA over Vietnam. And did not enter.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 12: 28
          -1
          Russia, too, did not particularly hide that it supports Syria.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 12: 41
            +5
            Quote: Pimply
            Russia, too, did not particularly hide that it supports Syria.

            International law!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 12: 52
              -3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              International law!

              There is no such thing. There is no single system of international law.
            2. smersh70
              smersh70 27 August 2013 13: 04
              +4
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              International law!


              Well, in words, everything is supported .... as Saakashvili’s GDP said, put all these papers in one place)))) the most important support is military! And if it doesn’t, then there’s nothing and there is no trial)))
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 14: 45
                +1
                Quote: smersh70
                .as Saakashvili’s GDP said, put all these papers in one place))

                I don’t remember something, remind me when it was
          2. smersh70
            smersh70 27 August 2013 13: 03
            -3
            Quote: Pimply
            Russia, too, did not particularly hide that it supports Syria.


            Until yesterday)))))))))))))
            1. 31231
              31231 27 August 2013 19: 40
              +1
              And from yesterday what ?! Could you tell?! You are probably a member of the Russian Security Council ?!
              Do you remember that there are several thousand Russian citizens in Syria?
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 19: 51
                +2
                Quote: 31231
                Do you remember that there are several thousand Russian citizens in Syria?

                And in Israel there are tens of thousands. But for some reason Russia was in no hurry to attack Lebanon.
                1. 31231
                  31231 27 August 2013 21: 09
                  +2
                  And what does Israel and Lebanon have to do with it ?! Is it not about Syria and possible NATO aggression against Assad ?! And what, the leadership of the Russian Federation has already laid out all its plans on this issue?
                2. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2013 22: 04
                  -2
                  Quote: 31231
                  And what does Israel and Lebanon have to do with it ?! Is it not about Syria and possible NATO aggression against Assad ?! And what, the leadership of the Russian Federation has already laid out all its plans on this issue?

                  Well, you're talking about protecting Russian citizens. And if Syria strikes Israel? There are more Russian citizens in Israel.
                3. 31231
                  31231 27 August 2013 22: 55
                  +2
                  That's when Assad will inflict a bonfire then, while Israel strikes and Russia expresses discontent.
    3. dmitreach
      dmitreach 27 August 2013 15: 01
      +8
      Do you seriously think that Lavrov should, like Kukuruznik, mention "Mother Kuzma"?

      08.12.12 "Novocherkassk" and "Saratov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      27.12.12 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      01.01.13 "Novocherkassk" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      09.01.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      09.01.13 "Saratov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      12.01.13 "Novocherkassk" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      14.01.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      17.01.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      2? .01.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      04.02.13 "Azov" and "Saratov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      07.02.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      21.02.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      25.03.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      12.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      14.04.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      ??. 04.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      23.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      30.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      05.05.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      1? .05.13 "Azov", "Alexander Shabalin" and "Kaliningrad" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      19.05.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      ??. 05.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      23.05.13 "Admiral Nevelskoy" and "Relight" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      27.05.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      17.06.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      20.06.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      01.07.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      13.07.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      ??. 07.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      26.07.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      31.07.13 “Minsk” and “Alexander Shabalin” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      ??. 08.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      11.08.13 "Minsk" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      17.08.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
      18.08.13 "Admiral Nevelskoy" and "Relight" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
      20.08.13 "Azov" and "Alexander Shabalin" - to the Mediterranean Sea.


      "The dog barks, the caravan goes."
      1. little man
        little man 27 August 2013 15: 34
        -1
        This is not a caravan. This tears are coming.
      2. Anti
        Anti 27 August 2013 18: 42
        +2
        Quote: dmitreach
        "The dog barks, the caravan goes."


        Syrian Express !!! good
    4. novobranets
      novobranets 27 August 2013 15: 13
      +6
      Quote: smersh70
      and Assad will certainly not be sweet without Russia ...

      Blyin, ashamed of how. recourse
  • ksan
    ksan 27 August 2013 11: 47
    +6
    The whole world understood Lavrov's statement literally in this way - a disgrace! Lavrov needed at least to make it clear that Russia would not surrender Assad, at least to hint. And he was "blown away" in the open.
    For "the bazaar must be responsible", but it would be a shame to promise, "to tear off the vest" and shout "we will not give up Syria", and as a result, there is nothing to be unable to do. Lavrov is the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and not a “bawler” from the rally.
    1. Ustas
      Ustas 27 August 2013 13: 48
      +6
      Quote: ksan
      For "the bazaar must be responsible", but it would be a shame to promise, "to tear off the vest" and shout "we will not give up Syria", and as a result, there is nothing to be unable to do. Lavrov is the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and not a “bawler” from the rally.

      It would be necessary to keep silent meaningfully, smiling slyly.
    2. little man
      little man 27 August 2013 15: 42
      +2
      And you do not distort! That’s why he is a diplomat, so that after his words it would be unclear what’s on the Russian mind.
      1. Dober
        Dober 27 August 2013 16: 57
        +1
        Quote: man
        what would have been nichrome after his words is not clear what the Russians have in mind.

        This is where the "disgrace" lies, which is incomprehensible.
        But it would be different, you look and would be wary of Western politicians like Lavrov, out of habit, "chatting nonsense" on the air. Maybe the voters of those countries would have stopped believing in propaganda and put pressure on their governments.
      2. Dober
        Dober 27 August 2013 16: 57
        0
        Quote: man
        what would have been nichrome after his words is not clear what the Russians have in mind.

        This is where the "disgrace" lies, which is incomprehensible.
        But it would be different, you look and would be wary of Western politicians like Lavrov, out of habit, "chatting nonsense" on the air. Maybe the voters of those countries would have stopped believing in propaganda and put pressure on their governments.
      3. novobranets
        novobranets 27 August 2013 18: 22
        +2
        Quote: man
        That's why he and the diplomat, that after his words it was nichrome not clear

        Negotiations are considered successful when all parties disagree, considering themselves deceived.
  • Don
    Don 27 August 2013 14: 03
    +4
    Quote: Ruslan_F38
    The whole world understood Lavrov's statement literally in this way - a disgrace! Lavrov needed at least to make it clear that Russia would not surrender Assad, at least to hint. And he was "blown away" in the open.

    Yes, look at the full statement of Lavrov, at least for Euronews.
    1. 31231
      31231 27 August 2013 21: 16
      +2
      I looked at RT. But for some reason, our people still prefer to draw information from Lenta.ru and Ehi Matzo. In general, it is high time the media were fined for distortion and lies. Just the stench of "democratizers" afterwards will not work. Lyosha Analny can be made a dervish for some tales about kickbacks on the ESPO.
  • alone
    alone 27 August 2013 18: 44
    +1
    Quote: Ruslan_F38
    Lavrov’s statement is a disgrace!


    unfortunately, Lavrov said only reality. Syria is not a player because of which you can start kirdyk to the whole world. Yes, and GDP also thinks. Otherwise, without the knowledge of the president, the foreign minister would not say that.
  • 31231
    31231 27 August 2013 19: 23
    +3
    And what did Vyshinsky and Gromyko say about US intervention in Korea and Vietnam. Diplomats and diplomats for that do not wave open sabers.
  • KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 27 August 2013 16: 27
    0
    Quote: Vadivak
    Lavrov: Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013.

    That will be "nix" if the war starts before the opening of the G20 summit in St. Petersburg ... in early September! This will be a slap in the face for us !!!!
    OBAMA will come and together with his "Korefans" from ENGLAND, FRANCE, GERMANY, CANADA and a number of their other satellites will begin to "TREAT" the GDP and together with it the whole RUSSIA from attempts to be independent and try to have their interests further than the territory beyond the Moscow Ring Road ...
    And there will be even more commotion if this invasion begins during this summit. Maybe that's why OBAMA decided to meet Putin in short with PUTIN? Tell how they will drive Syria into the sand after the refusal of the struggle to prevent war in this state from Russia.
    From such a shame, Russia will only have to hide its head behind the baseboard, so as not to look other partners in the eye and like ALITET ... quickly, quickly go to the mountains!
    1. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 27 August 2013 23: 33
      0
      Quote: KazaK Bo
      OBAMA will come and together with his "Korefans" from ENGLAND, FRANCE, GERMANY, CANADA and a number of their other satellites will begin to "TREAT" the GDP and together with it the whole RUSSIA from attempts to be independent and try to have their interests further than the territory beyond the Moscow Ring Road ...


      Already tried at the last summit. But then the GDP won the information war, which was noted even by the bourgeois media. And in St. Petersburg he will dunk them in his own derm about.
  • Anti
    Anti 27 August 2013 19: 39
    +1
    Quote: Vadivak
    Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX.


    I love his works !!!

    Not a holiday, not a welcome gift,
    She was preparing a fire
    Impatient hero ..

    AS Pushkin
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 28 August 2013 00: 56
    +2
    Quote: Vadivak
    Lavrov: Russia will not fight over Syria. 26.08.2013.
  • Trailer
    Trailer 27 August 2013 09: 08
    +25
    I thought, it turns out, in the Mediterranean now only 5 of our BDKs are. The main forces of the Black Sea Fleet drove off to Venezuela, Pacific Fleet gather with a trip to Australia ... no brains or what?
    1. strannik595
      strannik595 27 August 2013 09: 27
      +14
      "The use of chemical weapons is a crime against humanity. If the reports of the use of poisonous substances by Bashar al-Assad's regime are proven, the international community must take action. And Germany will not stand aside," said Guido Westerwelle, German Foreign Minister belay .
      ............ Whose cow would mumble, these words and to the Fuhrer in the ears .... if you had not bent you in due time, you would have mowed half the world
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 27 August 2013 16: 17
        +1
        Forgot about your "Cyclone".
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 09: 35
      +8
      Quote: Karavan
      The main forces of the Black Sea Fleet drove off to Venezuela, Pacific Fleet gather with a trip to Australia ... no brains or what?

      Yes, what can they do really. If we enter a warrior on the side of Syria, then this is already a concrete warrior with all the consequences. Iran is a hope
      1. 11 black
        11 black 27 August 2013 09: 57
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The main forces of the Black Sea Fleet drove off to Venezuela, Pacific Fleet gather with a trip to Australia ... no brains or what?

        Yes, what can they do really. If we enter a warrior on the side of Syria, then this is already a concrete warrior with all the consequences. Iran is a hope

        Well, they can do a lot, 3-4 949 boats and the Projection of force on the USA are provided, the consequences are another matter, but you’re talking about the 3 world, BUT they should understand that if they force us to shoot, armageddon will begin, and they understand this and it’s not in their interests! We urgently need to put as many of our C300 into Syria as possible, maybe we will have time ...

        PS For some reason, it seems to me that the United States will not attack, well, their economy is not in that position to start a new war, and two-thirds of Americans condemn the invasion, so if the Obama rating (So low) falls below the baseboard. In addition, Syria is not Iraq and not Libya, and if they attack, the war will be long and will cost them much more, and they understand this ...
        Another thing is that the G20 Summit is about to begin, and Obama seems to be intent on meeting with the GDP in the "one-on-one" format, and it is quite possible that this is how they are trying to put pressure on the GDP, in general, while it is too early to make assumptions, we must wait for the summit , so it will be possible to draw conclusions based on its results.
        1. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 27 August 2013 10: 04
          +10
          Quote: 11 black
          We urgently need to put as many of our C300 into Syria as possible, maybe we will have time ...

          Without prepared calculations, the technique is dead.
        2. Veter
          Veter 27 August 2013 10: 17
          +9
          Quote: 11 black
          that’s if Obama’s rating (So low) falls below the baseboard.

          So his rating on the drum. In the United States, presidents are not elected by the people (that's what democracy is !!!), but by a handful of electors with "masters" standing behind them.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 40
            -15%
            Electors vote according to the voting results. The time when the elector could vote differently is long gone.
            1. Veter
              Veter 27 August 2013 11: 49
              +8
              Quote: Pimply
              Electors vote according to the voting results.

              Of course!
              Quote: Pimply
              The time when the elector could vote differently is long gone.

              Yes, other times have come, times of great democracy (the rule of the people) and the rule of law. That’s the end of the tale .... and whoever listens and believes, he is blessed.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 12: 26
                -12%
                Quote: Veter
                Yes, other times have come, times of great democracy (the rule of the people) and the rule of law. That’s the end of the tale .... and whoever listens and believes, he is blessed.

                Dear, have you ever held an election, have at least a rough idea of ​​elective technologies and systems of internal balances in the same States? Something is doubtful to me.
            2. ksan
              ksan 27 August 2013 12: 45
              +10
              Pimpled (1) RU Today, 11:40 ↑

              Electors vote according to the voting results. The time when the elector could vote differently is long gone.
              Do you really think so laughing? You do not look like a stupid one, so you are trying to shield the "most democratic democracy", which has long turned into terrorist state
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 12: 53
                -3
                Quote: ksan
                Do you really think so? You do not look like a stupid one, so you are trying to shield the "most democratic democracy", which has long turned into a terrorist state

                No, I know that. Because I am familiar with the electoral process in different countries quite closely, and not only in theory.
                1. Net
                  Net 27 August 2013 18: 08
                  +3
                  So tell us how, in the most "democratic" country, a candidate who gets the fewest votes (not electors) can win.
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 August 2013 18: 14
                    -2
                    Quote: Netto
                    So tell us how, in the most "democratic" country, a candidate who gets the fewest votes (not electors) can win.


                    Stop, dear, these are already features of the election process, tradition. The elector is officially the representative of voters, and may only vote as representatives of the constituency vote. Somewhere there is a percentage barrier. Would you consider him unfair too? In some countries, a limited number of parties can go to parliament.
                  2. Revolver
                    Revolver 28 August 2013 04: 58
                    0
                    Quote: Netto
                    So tell us how so in the most & ay; democratic & ay; the country can win the candidate with the fewer votes (not electors).

                    Learn the materiel, or at least the story. So, in particular, Bush Jr. won in 2000.
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000
                    And this was the fourth case in history when a candidate who gained more votes nonetheless lost the election, and note, in a completely legal way.
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 10: 18
          +6
          Quote: 11 black
          Well, they can do a lot, 3-4 boats 949a

          Boats are good, but the amers understand that this is a bluff. Ours will not really beat, if they start, it means a warrior.
          Quote: 11 black
          , BUT after all, they should also understand that if our forces are forced to shoot, armageddon will begin, and they understand this and it is not in their interests

          They understand this, and we understand it, or do you think that armageddon is in our interests?
          Quote: 11 black
          We urgently need to put as many of our C300 into Syria as possible
          And who will manage them?
          Quote: 11 black
          PS For some reason, it seems to me that the United States will not attack, well, their economy is not in that position to start a new war,

          Paper roll, still print. War at all times has been the engine of the economy
          1. 11 black
            11 black 27 August 2013 11: 36
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Odki is good, but the amers understand that this is a bluff. Ours really will not beat, if they start, it means a warrior.

            They will not be completely sure that they will not - we understand that Syria, Iran and then Russia, they also understand it (I myself think that they will not, but I did not speak about the strike, but about the PROJECTION OF FORCE, although we would win a couple of weeks for Assad)
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            We urgently need to put as many of our C300 into Syria as possible
            And who will manage them?

            but as they did in Korea - ours in the form of SSA and forth

            Of course, this is unlikely to change the outcome of the campaign, but they will pay the real price.

            PS dear Romanov - here you are all talking about the inadmissibility of the 3 world - I agree, but you understand that Syria, Iran are then Russia, which means that the longer we delay the fall of Syria and Iran (ideally, of course, these regimes would be saved), the more we have time for rearmament of the army, and by the inaction and surrender of the allies we will not cancel the world’s 3, but only delay it for a short while. Therefore, you need to take decisive measures and not be afraid, there is nothing to lose in the long run - by 5 years earlier by 5 years later, but this gives a chance to be able to re-equip our army, and they will not trample on a well-armed army IMHO hi
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 12: 29
              -2
              Quote: 11 black
              but as they did in Korea - ours in the form of SSA and forth

              Will you dress in uniform - to fight in a foreign war?
              1. vostok68
                vostok68 27 August 2013 16: 34
                +7
                I will defend my homeland in any form! If they say it now, I’ll go with my saiga in civilian life! And the war for some reason all the time at our borders!
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2013 16: 41
                  +1
                  Quote: vostok68
                  And the war for some reason all the time at our borders!

                  Why only at the borders. She's inside. Put on your uniform, take it to Ingushetia and Dagestan. The country needs contractors.
                  1. vostok68
                    vostok68 27 August 2013 17: 06
                    +9
                    I’ve been there more than once, but what are you doing?
                  2. vostok68
                    vostok68 27 August 2013 17: 57
                    +2
                    Well, tell me, where did you put on your uniforms, do you have something at the NVP in Israel?
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 27 August 2013 18: 02
                      -6
                      My friend, should I really report to you - where am I and what I did? At the forum, people I respect respect know. And before you prove something, tell me - do not make me laugh. It bears you now, like a train on a slope. So go fly 8)
                    2. vostok68
                      vostok68 27 August 2013 18: 39
                      +2
                      nothing to say?
                    3. Pimply
                      Pimply 27 August 2013 18: 44
                      0
                      Quote: vostok68
                      nothing to say?

                      My friend, what can I tell you? You are a nervous and aggressive boor, who believes that everything in this life decides the pressure. Not able to calculate the consequences.
                      I don't care what you count. I am not five years old to prove something in the sandbox, and to convince fools. I do not need it. What was needed, I once proved. You're so funny puffing up trying to hurt me.
                    4. vostok68
                      vostok68 27 August 2013 19: 19
                      +5
                      I'm not a friend of you, I really was rude to you, I apologize, I could not restrain myself, I do not always understand the person I’m talking to, I couldn’t understand you, I apologize again
                    5. Cynic
                      Cynic 27 August 2013 19: 41
                      +4
                      Quote: vostok68
                      I don't ... I really ...

                      Hmm.
                      Sorry vostok68 that I interfere, but, for the future, do not succumb in the future to provocations!
                      You are welcome !
                      Respected Pimply elementary you divorced to insult, to carefully move off the topic
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Put on your uniform, take it to Ingushetia and Dagestan.

                      when sounded
                      Quote: vostok68
                      I have been there more than once

                      Sami analyze how in a losing situation for himself, he made you even apologize!
                      drinks
                    6. vostok68
                      vostok68 27 August 2013 20: 44
                      +3
                      drinks I do not want to leave garbage on the forum, let there be world peace, even if I lose something!
                  3. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 August 2013 19: 44
                    -1
                    Quote: vostok68
                    I'm not a friend of you, I really was rude to you, I apologize, I could not restrain myself, I do not always understand the person I’m talking to, I couldn’t understand you, I apologize again

                    Then we leave this circus.
                    I served three years, I know the Middle East (and not only him) quite well, I work with large volumes of information regularly, and analytics is one of my incomes.
                    Joining the war in Syria for Russia now, with its not very stable economy, tied to export - is insane. In order to play such games, one must have clear goals, an understanding of one’s own benefits, and a serious (or simply prohibitively rich in money) economy. The entry of troops into Syria is a conflict with Europe, Turkey, Arabs and the United States, if not real, then political. There are not so many benefits in fact, but there is a huge amount of potential for crap and spilled blood of fighters.
                2. vostok68
                  vostok68 27 August 2013 19: 32
                  +1
                  But really, you didn’t say anything, only general phrases, though I’m not better, I practically didn’t write anything on the case either
                3. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2013 19: 54
                  0
                  Quote: vostok68
                  But really, you didn’t say anything, only general phrases, though I’m not better, I practically didn’t write anything on the case either

                  When a person speaks about a case, I turn to him respectfully and concretely.
                  Russia does not have a coherent policy, at the moment (and under the USSR) it consists in annoying the United States, and more recently, in attempts to maintain its former position. And this is not true. Russia too often puts all its eggs in one basket, and even pays for it
                4. vostok68
                  vostok68 27 August 2013 20: 52
                  -1
                  Yes, there is a grain of truth in this, I can’t judge completely objectively, but I see that we are being surrounded on all sides and are making claims to us! It seems that this will end only after the war, I understand that this is paranoia, but the facts are striking! Maybe this is my subjective vision of the World!
                5. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2013 21: 25
                  +1
                  Quote: vostok68
                  and, there is some truth in this, I can’t judge completely objectively, but I see that we are being surrounded from all sides and are making claims to us! It seems that this will end only after the war, I understand that this is paranoia, but the facts are striking!

                  Europeans are reducing their armies, the US is withdrawing bases from Europe. Who Worth Fearing - China
  • 31231
    31231 27 August 2013 19: 49
    +1
    But you can’t tell me what's in Dagestan and Ingushetia ?! And then a couple of years ago I was in Makhachkala and could not see anything, the acre of their brandy.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 19: 57
      -1
      Quote: 31231
      But you can’t tell me what's in Dagestan and Ingushetia ?! And then a couple of years ago I was in Makhachkala and could not see anything, the acre of their brandy.

      That's just my friend going there on business trips.
    2. 31231
      31231 27 August 2013 21: 31
      +5
      AND?! Will you tell me now how in that joke "How Moisha Chaliapin sang"?
      Do you have the fact that Hamas and Hezbollah do not create problems?
      I’ll just tell you that radicalism in Islam is primarily caused by the lack of education of some believers. And how many Jews you are and we didn’t bomb the Russians and didn’t shoot the militants. Saudi and Qatar zombie machine does not jellied money. And the US authorities, destroying totalitarian regimes, only produce them.
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 22: 56
      +1
      Quote: 31231
      I’ll just tell you that radicalism in Islam is primarily caused by the lack of education of some believers. And how many Jews you are and we didn’t bomb the Russians and didn’t shoot the militants. Saudi and Qatar zombie machine does not jellied money. And the US authorities are destroying totalitarian regimes,

      Let’s do this - we’ll switch to some more reasonable mode of communication, without personal attacks, but we will really discuss the situation.

      The radicalism in Islam is caused by several factors. Poor education is just one of them. It is also a traditional wave: a departure from traditions, a return to them. Poverty and severity of regimes. There is a specific request for something else. Radicalism has always been attractive. States have lately followed trends rather than creating them.
    4. 31231
      31231 28 August 2013 09: 51
      +1
      Syrian authorities gave data on the killed mercenaries. The bulk of the citizens of Iraq, a large number from Libya. Strong state power in these states was destroyed as a result of the marginalization of society. Turkey is a Muslim country, Azerbaijan, Algeria. Why are there few or no thugs in Syria from these countries?
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 12: 48
    -1
    Quote: 11 black
    They will not be completely sure that they will not

    You amers really think of idiots?
    Quote: 11 black
    , at least we’ll win a couple of weeks for Assad)

    2.5 years is aggression against Syria, what will change in 2 weeks?
    Quote: 11 black
    but as they did in Korea - ours in the form of SSA and forth

    I propose that you be the first to send you under the attacks of the Tamahawks. Although I partially understand, apparently there are no specialists from CX00 among your relatives, and someone else's grief is someone else's grief. Send your brother or son.
    Quote: 11 black

    Of course, this is unlikely to change the outcome of the campaign, but they will pay the real price.

    And for the price we pay, we don't give a damn that the lives of our soldiers are behind the price.
    Damn, when did 1 of September, so that schoolchildren would dump from Sait

    Quote: 11 black
    Therefore, you need to take decisive measures and not be afraid, there is nothing to lose by and large - 5 years earlier, 5 years later,

    I have something to lose, my son is still small.
    1. 11 black
      11 black 27 August 2013 13: 48
      +10
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      but as they did in Korea - ours in the form of SSA and forth

      I propose that you be the first to send you under the attacks of the Tamahawks. Although I partially understand, apparently there are no specialists from CX00 among your relatives, and someone else's grief is someone else's grief. Send your brother or son.

      Okay, if we argue according to your "logic", so let's just forget everything and wait for the Naglo-Saxons with open arms, when they come, they will definitely not pity me or you, and grief will be for all of us
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      And for the price we pay, we don't give a damn that the lives of our soldiers are behind the price.
      Damn, when did 1 of September, so that schoolchildren would dump from Sait

      well, firstly, I have 1 completed technical tower, I am finishing the second humanitarian one, I'm talking about September 1, and the better we arm ourselves by the time the "guests" arrive, the fewer our soldiers will lie in that real bloody mix, if we arm ourselves well then maybe they generally will forget about the attempt on us, so take into account the hundreds of thousands of those saved ... The USSR understood that it was its turn for Korea and Iraq, therefore it sent troops to help, but they did not fight for them, FOR THEMSELVES, FOR THE HOMELAND so that a war against US does not happen.
      Don't you understand that the WAR AGAINST US IS ALREADY GOING, only the front is still far from our borders, everything must be done so that it stays there and doesn’t come to us!
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Therefore, you need to take decisive measures and not be afraid, there is nothing to lose by and large - 5 years earlier, 5 years later,

      I have something to lose, my son is still small.

      I understand you, so protect his future, agree better to ensure that no one attacks Russia and provide children with peace without war, imagine that after 5 - 10 years you will leave to fight, leaving your wife and son at home, and whether or not to return is a big question , I understand that this sounds cynical and did not want to offend or insult anyone, but I need to do everything to prevent this from happening, I need to win as much time as possible to rearm the army, and I would like it to be possible without our losses ...
      1. Veter
        Veter 27 August 2013 13: 55
        +5
        Quote: 11 black
        imagine that after 5 - 10 years you will leave to fight leaving your wife and son at home

        he will not go. he’ll go to the bottom or with a little pimply run away into the camp of the enemy, serve as footmen. If they are taken of course.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 14: 05
          -6
          So you did not answer. Are you going to fight?
          1. vostok68
            vostok68 27 August 2013 16: 37
            +8
            You are not a good person (you have such an avatar) ask me, I went and will go!
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2013 16: 59
            -7
            Quote: vostok68
            You are not a good person (you have such an avatar) ask me, I went and will go!

            So go ahead. What stops you. Take a sip of reality.
          3. vostok68
            vostok68 27 August 2013 17: 14
            +6
            Nothing stopped me, but did you take a sip of reality? or read books on the couch and found some clever thoughts there?
          4. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2013 17: 28
            -8
            Quote: vostok68
            Nothing stopped me, but did you take a sip of reality? or read books on the couch and found some clever thoughts there?

            Usually people fall into such tantrums, who didn’t smell gunpowder, forgive me. Why are you still here? You kind of have to run to fight.
          5. vostok68
            vostok68 27 August 2013 18: 01
            +7
            Don’t be afraid of me, the child’s sailor will not offend! I just chat with worthy people here! Do not be offended, I did not know that you were a nerd!
          6. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2013 18: 10
            -8
            Quote: vostok68
            Don’t be afraid of me, the child’s sailor will not offend! I just chat with worthy people here! Do not be offended, I did not know that you were a nerd!

            Oh, laughs 8)) Touche, I fell - he called me a nerd. I'm going to die with grief. Tell me, can you also gypsy? 8)
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          8. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2013 20: 25
            -2
            Quote: Dober
            ANAL.NOUTIK in one word ...

            Cool. And some other "pearl";)
          9. Dober
            Dober 27 August 2013 20: 58
            +3
            Quote: Pimply
            Cool.

            Danke ... hi
            And some other "pearl";

            For "pearls" to the namesake Petrosyan. I have dosed. For some, the "indignant mind" may not be able to withstand all that is desired to be expressed. Need an overdose? No.
          10. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2013 22: 18
            -3
            Quote: Dober
            For "pearls" to the namesake Petrosyan. I have dosed. For some, the "indignant mind" may not be able to withstand all that is desired to be expressed. Need an overdose? No.

            Oh, do not make laugh. You and moderation? 8)
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 14: 10
    -1
    Quote: 11 black
    I understand you, so protect his future,

    I will give orders, but I’m not going to ruffle in the empty and organize victorious keyboard marches. You are not the president and do not decide anything. Therefore, do not write nonsense.
    1. 11 black
      11 black 27 August 2013 14: 26
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I understand you, so protect his future,

      I will give orders, but I’m not going to ruffle in the empty and organize victorious keyboard marches. You are not the president and do not decide anything. Therefore, do not write nonsense.

      Yes, I’m just expressing my opinion on this issue, just like you, by the way, although you are not the Minister of Defense, but you can’t count your posts, and in my opinion there is nothing there, but let's refrain from insulting each other’s opinions.
      You minus only for an undeserved insult to opinion.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 14: 42
        +3
        Quote: 11 black
        Yes, I just express my opinion on this issue, as you, by the way,

        Well, yes, I do not agree with yours.
        Quote: 11 black
        You minus only for an undeserved insult to opinion.

        Come on, you are not putting the first minus to me, and I’m giving you, so we won’t. Delivered and delivered hi
  • Veter
    Veter 27 August 2013 14: 01
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Damn, when did 1 of September, so that schoolchildren would dump from Sait

    So your pimply friend will leave, how would you be without him on the site?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 27 August 2013 14: 09
      +12
      And we will write on perm

      Dear, let's return to the mainstream of the discussion, stop mutual silly insults.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 27 August 2013 18: 32
        +4
        Quote: Spade
        And we will write on perm

        Chalk ...
        On a board or on a fence ...
        You know what ... laughing
  • alone
    alone 27 August 2013 18: 56
    -1
    to my great happiness, a couple of days are left until September 1))
  • antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 27 August 2013 14: 17
    +2
    Quote: 11 black
    but as they did in Korea - ours in the form of SSA and forth

    We have no unnecessary prepared calculations.
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 27 August 2013 16: 32
    +1
    according to a statement by former US President Bush 3, World War I began in the 90s !!!
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 27 August 2013 11: 37
    +15
    PS For some reason, it seems to me that the United States will not attack, well, their economy is not in that position to start a new war, and two-thirds of Americans condemn the invasion, so if the Obama rating (So low) falls below the baseboard.

    I ask you .... if the amers spit openly on international law and on the UN Security Council, then they will not react to their people - vegetables at all.
    Amer in 2003 spat on the VETO not only of the Russian Federation, but also of France from Germany. Those were against the war in Iraq. And what happened in the end? And now the jackals are all assembled and all united by one goal: to shed blood in Syria.

    Obama does not solve anything ... practically nothing. Of course, he can make a strong-willed decision and cancel everything, but then his rating will fall even lower. He will lose the support of influential lobbies. Elections in the states are fiction. And in general, in principle, it’s convenient to hang all the dogs on Obama. For this, the President of the United States of America is needed to leave true strategists in the background.

    In addition, Syria is not Iraq and not Libya, and if they attack, the war will be long and will cost them much more, and they understand this ...

    the same thing was said about Iraq. For information, he possessed the 5th army (!) On the planet in numbers. And where was this army when the rockets flew? They bought the top, the soldiers were left without command and simply disappeared into the crowd.
    Only a coalition from China and the Russian Federation can really affect the situation. And in no case not by military method, otherwise there may be a kapets. It is just necessary to take political measures in relation to the aggressor countries. Ultimately, economic sanctions. Nevertheless, Europe will be sooooooooooooobb if suddenly gas prices rise a couple of times or even block the gas. China has even greater potential. Present all this in a closed meeting, make it clear that we do not want war and intend to achieve our goals, but with relatively civilizational methods.

    If Iran gets involved (which most likely will be), it will only play into the hands of the West. Two birds with one stone. It goes without saying that the "jackals" will not just get rid of the resistance, but over time they will achieve their goal. It’s not easy for Iran now, the sanctions are stifling its economy, and in case of war there will be a blockade.

    P.S. In general, there are options, but not all of them are acceptable to us.
    I have only one sore point: the extremely miserable Syrian people. I would like it to be simply not affected. Let politicians, tyrants, impressive shadow lobbies, ruling shadow governments gnaw their throats at one another, but the people suffer all this, die from their decisions.
    When I see graffiti through the media, it’s just hard to hold back tears.

    As Gaddaffi said: "where is that Russia, which has always protected the weak" - this is not a quote, but the meaning is correct.
    Where is that Russia and what should she do at such a difficult time ???????? request
    1. Ustas
      Ustas 27 August 2013 13: 59
      +5
      Quote: silver_roman
      Of course, he can make a strong-willed decision and cancel everything, but then his rating will fall even lower. He will lose the support of influential lobbies.

      I think in this case, Obama is waiting for the fate of Kennedy.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 28 August 2013 05: 46
        -2
        Quote: Ustas
        I think in this case, Obama is waiting for the fate of Kennedy.

        First, Obama, unlike Kennedy, does not drive in open cars, and what he drives in is not that of a regular sniper, you won’t take him from PTR.
        Secondly, regardless of Syria, there are a bunch of other reasons why Obama might want to spank, in particular Obamacare.
        Thirdly, I think that out of 10 Americans, 9 did not hear about Syria, and of those who heard 9 out of 10 would not find it on the map. This is the question of rating. Now, if because of Syria or what else gasoline prices will jump, it will still affect the rating.
        And in general, I do not want to be slapped, because then they will make an icon of liberalism out of him, and the next shit will win the shit, even if they put forward an obvious down. Better he quietly end his term and go down in history.
  • Veter
    Veter 27 August 2013 10: 05
    +23
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Yes, what can they do really. If we enter a warrior on the side of Syria, then this is already a concrete warrior with all the consequences. Iran is a hope


    Listen, Romanov, are you tired of whining about the fear of World War II in every topic about Syria?

    Only our decisive actions will prevent the beginning of the Great War, while our inaction will only delay it.
    1. Guun
      Guun 27 August 2013 10: 15
      +10
      How do you see this if the Russian Federation sends troops there? The influx of terrorists and mercenaries into Syria will flood at times - they say the Russians came to the aid of dictator Assad from dictator V.V. Putin and help is needed - there will be a sea of ​​blood both of them and ours. This is half the trouble, they will remove the blockbuster where the army of dictators destroys civilians and noise around the world. In fact, we’ll get stuck there and the war will never end there. Plus, sabotage from the West in the Caucasus is ensured, the activation of 5 columns under the slogan OUR CHILDREN DIE! WHY WE ARE A FOREIGN WAR AND many many other delights. And this is just the beginning.
      1. Veter
        Veter 27 August 2013 10: 21
        +5
        Quote: Guun
        How do you see this if the Russian Federation sends troops there?

        So far, only a presence in the ter. waters.
        Quote: Guun
        The influx of terrorists and mercenaries into Syria will flood at times

        What prevented to flood earlier? Lack of Russians? Hm ...
        Quote: Guun
        And this is just the beginning

        The end we may not see
        1. Guun
          Guun 27 August 2013 11: 05
          +3
          Quote: Veter
          What prevented to flood earlier? Lack of Russians? Hm ...

          You don’t understand, the West will make such propaganda in the Middle East that it will be too late. I guarantee you that if Russian troops arrive there, the flow of rebel manpower will increase significantly.
          1. Dober
            Dober 27 August 2013 19: 57
            +1
            Quote: Guun
            if Russian troops arrive there, the flow of rebel manpower will increase significantly.

            And if, under the pretext of protecting complexes, it is just to close the borders. (not so long) and airspace from the airfields of Iran.
            From where all these scumbags penetrate into Syria. And it’s not necessary to participate in street battles. There, the Syrians will cope.
            Of course, only specialists should fight. For social guarantees from Russia (in the case of something ...).
            I see, it looks like a utopia. But it's worth trying. They offered their presence in the Golan, the Jews cried out first, did not put the squeeze on - "cut the back. The logical result is that the world's bloodsuckers have sensed weakness and are preparing to sip a full cup of blood.
            But it will be so. And Lavrov only indirectly confirmed this ...
            Well, it’s shameful and disgusting for the Russian rulers. Almost everyone admits that Russia is next in line, but it’s like we can’t do anything ...
            Ugh ...
    2. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 27 August 2013 10: 15
      +5
      Quote: Veter
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Yes, what can they do really. If we enter a warrior on the side of Syria, then this is already a concrete warrior with all the consequences. Iran is a hope


      Listen, Romanov, are you tired of whining about the fear of World War II in every topic about Syria?

      Only our decisive actions will prevent the beginning of the Great War, while our inaction will only delay it.


      As for whining, I do not agree with you; nobody needs a world war.
      But that only decisive actions by Russia can prevent the massacre - I agree one hundred percent. Only now Lavrov, with his statements and idle chatter, has already "lowered" Russia below the plinth. And no one will fight with Russia if it really stands up for Syria, and not just in words.
      1. ksan
        ksan 27 August 2013 12: 39
        +4

        As for whining, I do not agree with you; nobody needs a world war.
        But that only decisive actions by Russia can prevent the massacre - I agree one hundred percent. Only now Lavrov, with his statements and idle chatter, has already "lowered" Russia below the plinth. And no one will fight with Russia if it really stands up for Syria, and not just in words
        If Lavrov, in your opinion, "lowered Russia", what do you think he should have done? To declare that Russia will enter the war on the side of Syria? And get into another "Afghan"? This is not a "small victorious war" like Abkhazia and Ossetia. In a day the whole world will howl about the "bloody dictator Putin" who is destroying the "freedom-loving" Syrians, and in a week the whole of Russia will howl "for what our guys are dying in Syria." And if, in fact, Russia is already helping Syria with weapons, and I think it will continue to help EVERYONE to the best of its ability. Syria cannot be defeated by air strikes (even if they are). A ground operation is needed for anyone, but here it is not Amers their allies will not climb. And Iran has a chance, without violating any international norms and agreements, to openly enter the war in Syria (they have a treaty on protection from external aggression) So a strike on Syria is not yet a fact of whose victory will lead.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 10: 20
      +8
      Quote: Veter
      Listen, Romanov, you’re not tired of whining in every topic about Syria

      Whine? And you follow the bazaar, I’m talking to you within the framework, and here you are staying in them !!!
      Quote: Veter

      Only our decisive action will prevent the outbreak of the Great War

      WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 27 August 2013 10: 22
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING


        I answered you above. And one more thing: at least Lavrov didn’t have to say that Russia would not fight because of Syria, let the whole world wonder and think, what if Russia really enters the war - and you see, this is a strong deterrent for NATO, isn’t it? Think a hundred times before attacking.
        Lavrov had to be told that Russia would give an adequate answer, not excluding military intervention - the United States and their dogs would be in a stupor for any and will think a thousand times before bombing.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 11: 04
          +1
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          . And no one will fight with Russia if it really stands up for Syria, and not just in words.

          This? Then it's a warrior!
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 27 August 2013 14: 42
            +8
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            . And no one will fight with Russia if it really stands up for Syria, and not just in words.

            This? Then it's a warrior!


            No need to juggle Alexander. It seems that most of the welcomers simply pull phrases out of context and do not delve into what I am writing about in general. If only to "talk it over". Why is the war Alexander? I have not heard more than one worthy, weighty and most important thing that refutes my arguments. argument to my proposal In Kosovo, someone started a war with us? Now we are many times stronger.

            I repeat for those who don’t hear or don’t want to hear: at least Lavrov didn’t have to say that Russia would not fight because of Syria, let the whole world wonder and think, and if Russia really enters the war - and you must admit it is a strong deterrent factor for nato, isn't it? Think a hundred times before attacking.
            Lavrov needed to be told that Russia would give an adequate answer, not excluding military intervention - the United States and their dogs would be in a stupor for anyone and would think a thousand times before bombing. This is the first thing. And where is the "smell of the third world?"
            I still believe that it is necessary to intervene, especially since Assad made such a request to the BRICS countries. Our troops there will be the guarantor that the West will not "shoot" at Syria. There will be provocations, but there will be no attack. Lavrov needed to be informed about this, and our troops had to begin the transfer. I think even that was enough to sit down at the negotiating table with the United States and its allies. This is the second. And again I ask, where is the third world war? Why will amers shoot at us? No need to keep them for complete idiots who will fight with us. "
            1. Veter
              Veter 27 August 2013 14: 56
              +2
              Ruslan_F38
              Bravo!!!!! From Kosovo to the point !!!
        2. shpuntik
          shpuntik 27 August 2013 13: 25
          +1
          Ruslan_F38 (1) RU Today, 10:22 ↑ New
          And one more thing: at least Lavrov didn’t have to say that Russia would not fight because of Syria, let the whole world wonder and think, what if Russia really enters the war - and you see, this is a strong deterrent for NATO, isn’t it?

          Ruslan, are we sure that we will be the first to know about the intentions of the Kremlin from TV?
          Vague doubts gnaw me that NATO knows what Lavrov will say, much earlier than you and me.
      2. Veter
        Veter 27 August 2013 10: 29
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Whine?

        YES!
        Even in this thread 3 times
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING

        Read the posts. And other users

        Reminiscent of alarmists during the Second World War.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 11: 06
          +2
          Quote: Veter
          Reminiscent of alarmists during the Second World War.

          You remind me of doctrine 41 with a bayonet and a grenade and on foreign territory.
          1. Veter
            Veter 27 August 2013 11: 26
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            You remind me of doctrine 41 with a bayonet and a grenade and on foreign territory.


            Dashing trouble began, and then was the 45th
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 12: 30
              -14%
              Yeah. For the 45th alone, 28 million people died, the country was destroyed, and the USSR had support from several countries.
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 12: 51
              -4
              Quote: Veter
              and then there was the 45th

              AI with it 28 million dead and a destroyed country. Go fight yourself and send others to death.
              1. Veter
                Veter 27 August 2013 13: 45
                +6
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                AI with it 28 million dead and a destroyed country.

                Did you have to give up? So that all 200 million people go to ashes?
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Go fight yourself and send others to death.

                Such as you send. If you run, it’s only with a white flag towards.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 27 August 2013 13: 54
                  +9
                  Quote: Veter
                  Such as you send. If you run, it’s only with a white flag towards.

                  Such as we do not send, such as we do not run either from the enemy or to him, such as we just know that war is work. Which I do not really want to do. But sometimes it is necessary.

                  So do not need this strain, and your slogans
                2. Veter
                  Veter 27 August 2013 14: 27
                  +8
                  Quote: Spade
                  Such as we do not send, such as we do not run either from the enemy or to him, such as we just know that war is work. Which I do not really want to do. But sometimes it is necessary.

                  I admit that you served or serve and there are no questions for you.
                  And if you mean Romanov under the phrase "people like us", then "war-work" is not for him.
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 17: 26
                -5
                Quote: Veter
                Did you have to give up? So that all 200 million people go to ashes?

                Do not confuse that war with this one.
      3. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 44
        -8
        Quote: Veter


        Reminiscent of alarmists during the Second World War.

        Tell me, my friend. And who will go to war? You?
        1. Veter
          Veter 27 August 2013 11: 55
          +11
          Quote: Pimply
          Tell me, my friend.

          A friend in your pants, dear.

          All those who appeal with the words "Who will go to fight? You?" in the event of a full-scale war, they will either surrender or shoot themselves. You tell the boys this phrase, who in South Ossetia pounded the Georgians in the face.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2013 12: 27
            -12%
            Quote: Veter
            You tell this phrase to the guys who in South Ossetia pounded Georgians in the face.

            That is, the boys will go to war, and not you, I understand correctly?
            1. xan
              xan 27 August 2013 12: 48
              +11
              Quote: Pimply
              That is, the boys will go to war, and not you, I understand correctly?

              understand correctly, Israeli, when you stop asking such questions
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 27 August 2013 12: 56
                +2
                An Israeli has more chances to be hit by bullets than you, so let's be mutually polite.
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 13: 10
                -5
                Quote: xan
                understand correctly, Israeli, when you stop asking such questions

                Well then call me a Russian and Russian, I have Russian citizenship and I live in Russia now. By the way, did we swell somewhere and switched to you? Or a question was asked of you. Stop, will you put on a uniform and go to war? It is strange that I see you all only in the forum, and not in Syria.
              3. xan
                xan 27 August 2013 16: 36
                +4
                Quote: Pimply
                Stop, will you put on a uniform and go to war?

                Are you scaring me, eagle?
                I see pride in you, since you fought, only you can talk about war. Did you, an Israeli, take part in stabbing, or do you know how to drive an Arabs in a tank, a warrior?
              4. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 17: 02
                -4
                Quote: xan

                Are you scaring me, eagle?
                I see pride in you, since you fought, only you can talk about war. Did you, an Israeli, take part in stabbing, or do you know how to drive an Arabs in a tank, a warrior?

                Cheburashkl and I, who are looking for friends, want to serve in artillery, right, my friend? ;)

                Oh, he threw it out, expressed it, angrily waved his fist 8) Bravo!

                And now the question is - will you shed blood in Syria?
              5. Dober
                Dober 27 August 2013 20: 37
                +4
                Quote: Pimply
                And now the question is - will you shed blood in Syria?

                I have already said that I lived for some time among YOURS and adopted something from them.
                Now the question is, "Will you shed blood in Syria?" Of course for Israel. And in Libya, Egypt or the Gaza Strip?
                If so, when will this happen and will we see the "heroic bubblegum" in frontline reports?

                In short, stop making faces and pester people.
              6. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 20: 44
                -2
                Quote: Dober
                Now the question is, "Will you shed blood in Syria?" Of course for Israel. And in Libya, Egypt or the Gaza Strip?
                If so, when will this happen and will we see the "heroic bubblegum" in frontline reports?

                With what aplomb everything is, bravo! YOURS - expressed all contempt. I’ve been faked - a carcass. Immediately fall and scream - did he kill me? 8)
              7. Dober
                Dober 27 August 2013 21: 58
                +2
                Quote: Pimply
                expressed all contempt.

                Contempt? No ... It still needs to be earned.
                Well, do cockroaches deserve contempt, for example? Or pubic lice?
                Disgust, disdain and necessarily "class struggle", but not contempt.
                Quote: Pimply
                Immediately fall and scream - did he kill me?

                Not necessary at all. Firstly, there will be no fee for the performance, only applause. And secondly, this "exercise" will not be the last, will it?
                Or will it be?
              8. Apollo
                Apollo 27 August 2013 22: 03
                0
                Quote: Dober
                And secondly, this "exercise" will not be the last, will it?
                Or will it be?


                I’m looking at you the flags of the host country often change, why would it ?!
              9. studentmati
                studentmati 27 August 2013 22: 10
                0
                Quote: Apollon
                I’m looking at you the flags of the host country often change, why would it ?!


                Can a collaborator?
              10. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 22: 58
                -1
                It is to rain. Hiding from OUR 8)))
              11. Dober
                Dober 27 August 2013 23: 19
                +3
                Recent German. And this is true. Prior to this, he left either from the airport or from the Hanover railway station via Wi-Fi. And there are clouds of providers.
                I'll be home in an hour. And the "flag" should appear "native tricolor", because the USB-modem will stick in Megaphone.
                Just business ... No conspiracy. I didn't blow up Munich Athletes
                Why the hell am I ...
      4. xan
        xan 28 August 2013 10: 45
        -1
        Quote: Pimply
        Quote: xan

        Are you scaring me, eagle?
        I see pride in you, since you fought, only you can talk about war. Did you, an Israeli, take part in stabbing, or do you know how to drive an Arabs in a tank, a warrior?

        Cheburashkl and I, who are looking for friends, want to serve in artillery, right, my friend? ;)

        Oh, he threw it out, expressed it, angrily waved his fist 8) Bravo!

        And now the question is - will you shed blood in Syria?

        well, pimpled, what kind of warrior do you personally already understand
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  • Veter
    Veter 27 August 2013 13: 37
    +3
    Quote: Pimply
    I understand correctly?

    Нет!
    And you won’t understand!
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 13: 43
      -4
      Quote: Veter
      Нет!
      And you won’t understand!

      Well, why I do not understand. I fought. I asked you a direct question - will you go to fight in Syria?
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 27 August 2013 13: 43
      +5
      Quote: Veter
      And you won’t understand!

      C'mon, he understands everything perfectly, he just needs to talk normally with people.
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 14: 07
      -1
      Quote: Spade
      C'mon, he understands everything perfectly, he just needs to talk normally with people.

      But he does not know how. He knows how to fight only on the forum.
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 August 2013 12: 59
    +10
    If necessary, I will go. No questions asked.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 13: 13
      +4
      And you, Lopatov, I have no doubt. Just hysterical screamers on the forum can only shout about how to send troops. They themselves do not want to fight more than in words.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 27 August 2013 13: 37
        +8
        We are kind of "you".

        Send troops? Maybe it should be. Officially, to prevent US interference. Not to fight, just to be. Because an attack on a military unit of a state is an act of aggression against the state. Maybe the Americans will finally come to their senses, stop posing as maniacs.
        I honestly do not see any other way out, they must be stopped.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 13: 48
          0
          Quote: Spade
          Send troops? Maybe it should be. Officially, to prevent US interference. Not to fight, just to be. Because an attack on a military unit of a state is an act of aggression against the state. Maybe the Americans will finally come to their senses, stop posing as maniacs.
          I honestly do not see any other way out, they must be stopped.

          And they are not going to send troops. They will strike at the bases. And they also launched serious sponsorship of the militants, and not the kutsee that is now. And Russia will get involved in a war like Afghanistan. As a result, the Sunnis, whom the majority, one way or another, Assad and the company crush - not in a year, but in ten years.
          Russia will receive a bunch of economic and political problems, including a conflict with Europe, Arabs and the States. Many Russian soldiers will die - who will fight with irregular partisans and militants, and not with a conventional adversary.

          War, especially on foreign territory, is a wildly expensive exercise.
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 27 August 2013 14: 06
          +5
          We need to enter. So that they do not strike. So that a terrorist state that is initially hostile to all non-Muslims does not appear so close to us. There are simply no options.
          This will come back to the new Americans on September 11th, but they are far from them, and they are once again trying to sit out behind the hawks. But neither we, nor you, nor Europe will seem a little.

          Russia will receive many problems, but this is normal. Many hate older brothers because they do not allow a member to shove a socket.
        3. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 14: 19
          -4
          Quote: Spade
          We need to enter. So that they do not strike. So that a terrorist state that is initially hostile to all non-Muslims does not appear so close to us. There are simply no options.

          Has already. Afghan. And he is much closer. Russia's participation in the mess gives far more chances for the Islamists to strike at it.
        4. Lopatov
          Lopatov 27 August 2013 14: 28
          +8
          They will strike us anyway. It's not even discussed. Russia is one of the immediate targets of their "permanent gazavat". In the image and likeness of the Trotskyists, they are fighting for the victory of Islam throughout the world. Under wise leadership and huge financial support from Qatar and the Saudis. The Americans are once again trying to use this wave, and I am sure that once again they will not be able to keep it in check.
        5. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 15: 07
          -2
          Quote: Spade
          In the image and likeness of the Trotskyists, they are fighting for the victory of Islam throughout the world. Under the wise guidance and with the huge financial support of Qatar and the Saudis. The Americans are once again trying to use this wave, and I am sure that once again they will not be able to keep it in obedience.

          I agree. Only for such a brawl, you must have the strength. There are none at the moment.
  • vostok68
    vostok68 27 August 2013 16: 43
    -2
    And you, if you fought, why do you say so here, you’re lying!
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 27 August 2013 15: 05
    +2
    Quote: Pimply
    Quote: Veter


    Reminiscent of alarmists during the Second World War.

    Tell me, my friend. And who will go to war? You?


    Probably YOU ARE FRIENDS and apparently for Israel?
  • Pimply
    Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 42
    -2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING

    Kill yourself with caps, Sash, most screamers should kill themselves with caps.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 12: 52
      +2
      Quote: Pimply
      Sasha, most screamers should kill themselves with hats.

      And what the hell can you prove to them request
  • shpuntik
    shpuntik 27 August 2013 13: 15
    +6
    Alexander Romanov (1) RU Today, 10: 20 ↑ New
    WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING

    Alexander hi What actions? Yes, now there really are none. Previously, it was necessary to act. Not necessarily in the form of Yudashkin it shines there, you can put on Asadovskaya. By type of advisers in Vietnam, etc. countries.
    Secondly: we have many former warriors who will go to fight for money, not only for an idea. There are also those who are ready simply for the idea: "to help the brotherly Syrian people", and there are many of them in Ukraine, recently the article was here.
    Third: We need to prepare these units ahead of time. First, find out how much Assad is willing to pay. How much money does he have? Proceeding from this, form volunteer groups (from countries of the former USSR, Yugoslavia, etc.). I think twenty thousand could be recruited, and by this time there would have been no militants.
    Fourth: Agree with Assad on preferences, what deposits we can get in case of victory, what he can share.
    Fifth: To carry out an operation on a legitimate change of power in Syria. If Assad is so annoying, then put a successor loyal to us and Assad. Then the cause for SHA aggression will disappear.
    It was necessary to work, as Putin says, and not to chew snot. Let's see if they delivered the S-300 and how they work, it is not long left.
    And so, in all, they are handing over Syria because they connect us with the United States a lot - the foreign exchange reserves are there, in their currency.
  • dmitreach
    dmitreach 27 August 2013 15: 25
    +7
    Greetings, Alexander.
    WHAT A pancake ?????????????? The second day I ask what can be done, but in response NOTHING

    1. BDK again dragged something to Syria. What are these rectangular "pencil cases"? on the picture?
    2. Carry, with manic constancy.
    It is worth noting that the other day Russian citizens will be evacuated with the help of EMERCOM aircraft (about 200 people). In principle, this is a common practice, but today it looks especially acute.
    3. The Amer is not putting pressure on Syria, but on Putin, on the eve of the G20 summit. If we wanted war, we would have bombed long ago. The topic stretched over several years! During this period, we almost made a helicopter carrier to us, and amers all threaten. Rather, it is a dirty revenge for Snowden, for the failure of the "colored gay revolutionaries", for the position of Russia as a whole. An attempt to work "weakly", "push through".
    What should the Foreign Ministry answer? Mention "Mother Kuzma", in the tradition of the middle of the last century? The escalation of the conflict is guaranteed.
    Give amers a chance to save face? Lavrov gave. Fact? Fact. BDK stopped going to Syria? No. Fact? Fact. Nothing will happen before the G20. We are waiting for the confrontation of Obrai Obama and Vladimir Putin. Less than a week left.
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach 27 August 2013 15: 27
      0
      again the photo did not open ... link:

      http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/39356/
  • alone
    alone 27 August 2013 19: 02
    -4
    the only thing that can be done in the current situation is to organize the evacuation of Russian citizens, and if at least an Asad family is possible. ship trips, s-300 delivery, sending airborne forces, etc., etc. doesn’t solve anything. I also write here for two days that there is no document that says that Russia is the guarantor of Syria’s security. Anyway, everything here is bending its line
    1. 31231
      31231 27 August 2013 21: 47
      -1
      Not early to bury SAR and Assad ?! Are you Iran at all not counting?
      Assad’s position is not Gaddafi and Saddam at all. Iran stands behind it and Russia and China help.
      1. alone
        alone 27 August 2013 22: 11
        +2
        tell dear sergey, how does china help syria? so that it votes against the UN resolutions? so one Russian word is enough to veto it. and just recently, Chinese militants and anti-tank guns began to shine in the hands of militants. One can only guess how they fell into the hands of bearded creatures. And now you know what they are doing in China? 99% of the government sits and considers how much to invest in post-war Syria. China is always playing its own game. As for Iran, wait and see. For the past 8 years, I only heard about how they were going to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. One word. Even during the second Lebanese didn’t do anything concrete, some words. Iran’s Air Force is very weak. F-4s aren’t against f-16, especially when there are no spare parts
        1. 31231
          31231 27 August 2013 23: 07
          0
          The rebels have even more Russian weapons. And now that we do not produce and sell it? If Assad is overthrown tomorrow, who will get our weapons delivered to him?

          Officially, China is against the UN resolution on Syria. With its foreign policy weight and trade with Iran, that's already enough. Of course, I don't know about unofficial help, for "who am I and what am I, what would they tell me about it?"
  • Nitup
    Nitup 27 August 2013 11: 20
    -15%
    It is not too late, it is necessary to deliver a massive nuclear strike against the United States and Great Britain in order to deprive them of the opportunity to attack Syria.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 45
      -2
      And then commit suicide.
    2. zart_arn
      zart_arn 27 August 2013 12: 45
      +6
      need to deliver a massive nuclear strike on the US and the UK
      If this is a joke, then pretty dumb. If you really think so - then you need to be treated, you are insane! laughing
    3. ksan
      ksan 27 August 2013 12: 52
      +2
      Nitup (2) RU Today, 11:20 ↑

      It is not too late, it is necessary to deliver a massive nuclear strike against the United States and Great Britain in order to deprive them of the opportunity to attack Syria.
      What's this? Wacky joke?
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    5. Vadivak
      Vadivak 27 August 2013 12: 58
      +2
      Quote: Nitup
      It is not too late, it is necessary to deliver a massive nuclear strike against the United States and Great Britain in order to deprive them of the opportunity to attack Syria.


      Patient, did you take any medicine today? This is not a medical site.
    6. svp67
      svp67 27 August 2013 13: 08
      0
      Quote: Nitup
      It’s not too late, you need to deliver a massive nuclear strike against the United States
      With the same effect, it’s enough to simply undermine our entire nuclear potential in our own territory. The effect will be the same, but performance is guaranteed. In this situation, the simplest thing is to withdraw our Iskanders from the RPD and strengthen the aviation and ground forces in the Western theater of operations ...
    7. alone
      alone 27 August 2013 19: 10
      -1
      belay Do you have parabellum so that you can shoot yourself later?
  • Pimply
    Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 41
    -1
    Can you imagine how much one war costs, and how much is the Russian budget tied to international supplies?
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 27 August 2013 11: 47
      +5
      Calm, I’ve joked
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 12: 54
        +3
        Quote: Nitup
        Calm, I’ve joked

        You need to warn, otherwise I already posted the comment.
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 27 August 2013 10: 35
    +12
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    If we enter a warrior on the side of Syria, then this is a concrete warrior with all the consequences.


    Lavrov is right. Russia will not fight now. Maybe it will, but then, like a colony for independence.
    1. Ustas
      Ustas 27 August 2013 14: 11
      +4
      Quote: Vadivak
      Lavrov is right. Russia will not fight now. Maybe it will, but then, like a colony for independence.

      Bravo Vadim! Well-aimed quote.
  • IRBIS
    IRBIS 27 August 2013 10: 04
    +21
    Quote: Karavan
    I thought, it turns out, in the Mediterranean now only 5 of our BDKs are. The main forces of the Black Sea Fleet drove off to Venezuela, Pacific Fleet gather with a trip to Australia ... no brains or what?

    Do you propose to measure pisyunami with the NATO fleet? Believe me, ours will be shorter and thinner. Provoke a global conflict? Maybe you should soberly assess the situation, and only then move the boats and planes. There are other ways to resolve the issue. Direct participation of Russia in the upcoming conflict is unacceptable, whatever the consequences. Or is the blue sky over your head already tired?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 10: 21
      +7
      Quote: IRBIS
      Direct participation of Russia in the upcoming conflict is unacceptable, whatever the consequences. Or is the blue sky over your head already tired?

      Sasha, you’ll be accused of cowardice. laughing
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 27 August 2013 10: 28
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Sasha, you’ll be accused of cowardice.

        Hi Sanya! What are these charges compared to harsh reality. It’s just that some had an imagination and a warlike spirit awoke. Here are just about the consequences to think not in their spare time.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 10: 50
          +5
          Quote: IRBIS
          Here are just about the consequences to think not in their spare time.

          Hi hi And what to think if they even say it without thinking, but Lavrov could say that Russia will join the war (yesterday) alone blurted out. I don’t even think, but what would it be today, after such words, the whole world was in the country, and in the world too, SHOCK. What next request
        2. Nitup
          Nitup 27 August 2013 11: 24
          0
          Quote: IRBIS
          It’s just that some had an imagination and a warlike spirit awoke.

          Yes, indeed, the warlike spirit of the fighter of the keyboard front woke up in many
          1. Jin
            Jin 27 August 2013 15: 38
            +1
            Quote: Nitup
            Yes, indeed, the warlike spirit of the fighter of the keyboard front woke up in many


            For the frequent among those who only war on television, but in the movies saw ...
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 16: 43
              0
              Quote: Jin
              For the frequent among those who only war on television, but in the movies saw ...


              Keyboard Front Fighters on March Today
              1. Jin
                Jin 27 August 2013 16: 49
                0
                Quote: Pimply
                Keyboard Front Fighters on March Today


                But why don’t you march when when, except for comments, he doesn’t come from anywhere ...
              2. vostok68
                vostok68 27 August 2013 17: 26
                +2
                Duck you are one of them!
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        3. Jin
          Jin 27 August 2013 15: 36
          +1
          Quote: IRBIS
          It’s just that some had an imagination and a warlike spirit awoke. Here are just about the consequences to think not in their spare time.


          That's right ... when the bloodstream starts flowing and there is a bono-bono, other "songs" are sung, many people start to remember their mother ... but it's too late ...
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 27 August 2013 10: 09
    +2
    Quote: Karavan
    I thought, it turns out, in the Mediterranean now only 5 of our BDKs are. The main forces of the Black Sea Fleet drove off to Venezuela, Pacific Fleet gather with a trip to Australia ... no brains or what?


    Brains are just there - brains save their skins, assets, loot.
  • novobranets
    novobranets 27 August 2013 15: 16
    +2
    So what happens, the departure of our fleet from the Mediterranean Sea, preparation for the "crustacean move"?
  • ziqzaq
    ziqzaq 27 August 2013 09: 33
    +9
    Quote: gud123
    The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!!

    Calm comrades, this is revenge for Snowden, and indeed for the scolded GDP of the virginity of the Obama administration .... My subjective opinion is that everything will depend on the decision of GDP. Well, who is the world leader now ????? I wonder how the GDP will respond? It would be great if you can stick it even deeper into this pack ...........
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 27 August 2013 09: 45
      -4
      Your world leader in GDP has nothing to do with this situation. Lavrov already said through his mouth. If he (GDP) somehow wanted the Syrians to help, he could do this before, supplying defensive and anti-aircraft weapons. How many times Assad and his envoys came to Moscow, persuading them to deliver weapons? What is the result? The mythical supplies of the S-300 and how many helicopters there are ???
      1. Garyk701
        Garyk701 27 August 2013 09: 55
        +4
        Are you sure that the S-300 is not in Syria? They have half of the country there teeming with Arab mercenaries, and Assad, let your trump cards burn. Don’t go to Asadok’s du-cancer, since he’s still alive and at the helm.
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 27 August 2013 10: 21
          +1
          You, apparently, have not been here for a long time. So, let it be known to you, exactly the same comments were a year and a half ago, when ours leaked and betrayed Libya, and the urapatriots like you tried to convince something that they say Gaddafi has modern Russian weapons with which he will strike the amers, and that our fleet will come and save Libya. So don’t, we’ve been through it already
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 12: 56
            +6
            Quote: Dangerous
            and urapatriots like you tried to convince something that they say Gaddafi has modern Russian weapons,

            There were no such comments, simply because Gaddafi did not have modern weapons and everyone knew this
          2. ksan
            ksan 27 August 2013 13: 08
            +2
            Dangerous RU Today, 10:21 ↑

            You, apparently, have not been here for a long time. So, let it be known to you, exactly the same comments were a year and a half ago, when ours leaked and betrayed Libya, and the urapatriots like you tried to convince something that they say Gaddafi has modern Russian weapons with which he will strike the amers, and that our fleet will come and save Libya. So don’t, we’ve been through it already
            Libya did not even go close to being "friends" with Russia, but rather the opposite. Gaddafi made a "stake" on Western friends who bombed him. So, as you put it, it was not Russia but his "Western friends"
          3. 31231
            31231 28 August 2013 07: 34
            0
            Maybe in order not to be unfounded, you start to screen comments?
      2. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 27 August 2013 10: 08
        +8
        Quote: Dangerous
        Your world leader in GDP has nothing to do with this situation. Lavrov already said through his mouth. If he (GDP) somehow wanted the Syrians to help, he could do this before, supplying defensive and anti-aircraft weapons. How many times Assad and his envoys came to Moscow, persuading them to deliver weapons? What is the result? The mythical supplies of the S-300 and how many helicopters there are ???

        Firstly, the foreign policy of GDP is quite at a level that is confirmed by Obama’s reaction ....
        Secondly, they personally report to you what and how much was sent to Syria? If yes, then you are really Dangerous, if not then I'm sorry, all your theses are just verbiage ...
        Well, judge for yourself, not so long ago amers refused to support terrorists in Syria, and now they suddenly pretend that Syria is their second Vietnam. And all this shuffling happens after Snowden ..... I do not know whose project "Snowden" but America's reaction can hardly be called consistent ......
        1. brace
          brace 27 August 2013 10: 28
          -2
          I think that Syria was still sold. No wonder the prince came to Moscow. They just made it so that they proudly prelude to reject the offers, and under the table they decided everything.
          1. ziqzaq
            ziqzaq 27 August 2013 10: 52
            +4
            Quote: brace
            I think that they still sold Syria

            Sorry, but a mercantile expression is not appropriate here .... And then, does Syria and Russia have a military alliance? It’s not profitable for us to fight now, but we are providing support, both diplomatic and armament, to Syria, and it’s not for nothing that the BDK went there like regular buses. What do you think GDP will have to do, bomb the US? If amers with their pack start large-scale military operations in Syria, then this will be Obama’s serious jamb as a politician ... Please note that both in Libya and Iraq there was an internal conflict between the government and the people, and in Syria, on the contrary, people will rally face of the aggressor .. Even if the main hostilities are blamed on Turkey, Erdogan will end badly, and the GDP will still receive its dividends in the form of a new course for Turkey more friendly Russia ......
            1. novobranets
              novobranets 27 August 2013 15: 19
              0
              Quote: ziqzaq
              And then, does Syria have a military alliance with Russia? It’s not profitable for us to fight now, and we are providing support, both diplomatic and weapons, to Syria,

              This is already an excuse.
          2. 31231
            31231 27 August 2013 23: 18
            +1
            Do not tell someone and how much has gotten from this sale?
      3. ultra
        ultra 27 August 2013 10: 10
        +6
        Quote: Dangerous
        How many times Assad and his envoys came to Moscow, persuading them to deliver weapons?

        And what do you think of delivering your BDK to Tartus? Not the diapers! For acquaintances, the son is serving at one of the BDK Black Sea Fleet.
      4. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 47
        -2
        Some S-300s do not do weather. And for the rest - will you pay for someone else's war?
        1. 31231
          31231 28 August 2013 06: 07
          0
          If Israel enters the war on the side of the United States, whose war will it pay for ?!
      5. dmitreach
        dmitreach 27 August 2013 15: 32
        +2
        . If he (GDP) somehow wanted the Syrians to help, he could do this before, supplying defensive and anti-aircraft weapons. How many times Assad and his envoys came to Moscow, persuading them to deliver weapons? What is the result? The mythical supplies of the S-300 and how many helicopters there are ???

        Dangerous, especially for those living in a different dimension:
        08.12.12 "Novocherkassk" and "Saratov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        27.12.12 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        01.01.13 "Novocherkassk" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        09.01.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        09.01.13 "Saratov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        12.01.13 "Novocherkassk" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        14.01.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        17.01.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        2? .01.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        04.02.13 "Azov" and "Saratov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        07.02.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        21.02.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        25.03.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        12.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        14.04.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        ??. 04.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        23.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        30.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        05.05.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        1? .05.13 "Azov", "Alexander Shabalin" and "Kaliningrad" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        19.05.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        ??. 05.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        23.05.13 "Admiral Nevelskoy" and "Relight" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        27.05.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        17.06.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        20.06.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        01.07.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        13.07.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        ??. 07.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        26.07.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        31.07.13 “Minsk” and “Alexander Shabalin” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        ??. 08.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        11.08.13 "Minsk" - to the Mediterranean Sea.

        17.08.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
        18.08.13 "Admiral Nevelskoy" and "Relight" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
        20.08.13 "Azov" and "Alexander Shabalin" - to the Mediterranean Sea.


        just don't say that there is "humanitarian aid"
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 09: 46
      +12
      Quote: ziqzaq
      Well, who is the world leader now?

      World leader? Well, definitely not Obama, this world bandit
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 46
      -4
      Hmm, insanity grew stronger.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 12: 57
        +1
        Quote: Pimply
        Hmm, insanity grew stronger.

        If this is for me, then I can answer the same.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 13: 14
          -2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          If this is for me, then I can answer the same.

          Yes, Sash is not for you. There is enough for someone.
  • Denis
    Denis 27 August 2013 09: 39
    +5
    Quote: gud123
    The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!!

    In addition to opinion, there must also be WILL.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 09: 46
      -7
      Quote: Denis
      must also be WILL.

      Start 3 world-dare
      1. Denis
        Denis 27 August 2013 09: 56
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Start 3 world-dare

        Tired, by golly already.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 10: 02
          -2
          Quote: Denis
          Tired, by golly already.

          I am returning your minus to you, except for fiery speeches about what should be given to them in the teeth, there is nothing in your comments.
          1. Denis
            Denis 27 August 2013 10: 14
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I am returning your minus to you, except for fiery speeches about what should be given to them in the teeth, there is nothing in your comments.

            Smart guy, read my comments carefully, And, get rid of yourself already.
            1. Veter
              Veter 27 August 2013 10: 33
              +7
              Quote: Denis
              Smart guy, read my comments carefully, And, get rid of yourself already.


              In general, something has happened to Romanov recently. Previously, he left adequate comments, but now ....
              Maybe his account was stolen?
              1. Neksel
                Neksel 27 August 2013 11: 00
                +8
                Quote: Veter
                Maybe his account was stolen?


                No way tricks of the Zionists and the Mossad wink
                Yes, just a man rationally argues.
                I'm surprised myself. I respect those who are not afraid to express and defend their opinions in spite of the "hurray-shouts".
                Romanov is a solid plus from me.
                And now let’s throw me minusers too.
                1. smile
                  smile 27 August 2013 19: 07
                  +1
                  Neksel
                  Karauuuuul !!! Mossad hid the moderator of VO and tortures him into polemics with military leaders eager to drown the 6th US fleet with one parachute regiment, wipe the Saudis off the face of the earth, restrain Turkey and hang Israel by the leg !!!! I propose to start raising funds for the ransom of the innocently abducted from the pro-proclaimed Zionists! Money can be sent to me, I will give it! .... :)))))

                  Pancake. read, read and could not bear ..... :)))
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 52
                +2
                He now leaves more than adequate comments, not cheers-patriotic cries.

                For the sake of interest - predict me the situation of the invasion of Syria - the political, economic and military consequences. Forward.
                1. shpuntik
                  shpuntik 27 August 2013 13: 55
                  +5
                  Pimpled (1) RU Today, 11:52 ↑
                  For the sake of interest - predict me the situation of the invasion of Syria - the political, economic and military consequences. Forward.

                  Eugene, why immediately the invasion ?? No, there is another way. The one along which the Sha go. Who pays bearded men in Syria?
                  For example: for $ 2000 per month there will be many who want to take a chance, in the vast expanses of the former USSR. And these are people trained, often having combat experience.
                  Now let's multiply: 10 thousand people * 2000 $ * 12 months * 2 years = 480 million dollars. Plus the same amount for food and ammunition - $ 2000 per month. We get 1 billion SHA dollars. Thinks Assad didn't have one billion? I think I was, and not alone, now they can give a loan, I don't know. But in one year, ten thousand soldiers would have cleared Syria up and down, not just two. Therefore - it could be, but in Russia they did not bother with this - the Sha is a strategic partner, buys oil, we keep a "safety cushion" in dollars, treasuries and in Sha banks. Etc... hi
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 August 2013 14: 08
                    0
                    Quote: shpuntik
                    Eugene, why immediately the invasion ?? No, there is another way. The one along which the Sha go. Who pays bearded men in Syria?
                    For example: for $ 2000 per month there will be many who want to take a chance, in the vast expanses of the former USSR. And these are people trained, often having combat experience.

                    There is. Then what's the point?
                    1. shpuntik
                      shpuntik 27 August 2013 14: 34
                      +4
                      Pimpled (1) RU Today, 14:08 ↑ New
                      There is. Then what's the point?

                      Meaning: to have a base in the Mediterranean Sea. Main. + To prevent the spread of radical Islam, these geeks will become smaller.
                      Harming the Sha and NATO is not an end in itself, but if you leave Syria, they will go further. And these bearded men, frostbitten, will end up in the "soft underbelly" of Russia: Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc.
                    2. Pimply
                      Pimply 27 August 2013 15: 07
                      -6
                      For the base, ships and equipment are needed. The permanent staff of the base in Tartus totaled 2 people.
                    3. andreitk20
                      andreitk20 27 August 2013 22: 40
                      +1
                      Well, it's you in vain, the regular staff there is normal. And there may not be as many ships as you want, but they are. And go to the Mediterranean.
                    4. Pimply
                      Pimply 27 August 2013 23: 16
                      -1
                      Quote: andreitk20
                      Well, it's you in vain, the regular staff there is normal. And there may not be as many ships as you want, but they are. And go to the Mediterranean.


                      Sure?
                      In connection with the civil war in Syria, which began in 2011, interviews of Russian correspondents concerning the Tartus base were more frequent. In the interview, in particular, it was said that there was no modernization of the modest Russian sector. The staff is 4 people, while at the beginning of 2002 the staff was about 50 people
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 10: 52
        0
        Quote: Denis
        Smart ass,

        Here in a personal wrote
        Quote: Denis
        And, get rid of yourself already.

        Take advantage of the emergency
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          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 53
            -7
            Quote: Denis
            Threat Warning? - no problem, threaten yourself. You yourself started everything, read carefully again, what I am writing !!

            Do not hysteria, not a girl of 5 years.
            1. Denis
              Denis 27 August 2013 12: 12
              +3
              Quote: Pimply
              Do not hysteria, not a girl of 5 years.

              Pimpy, what are you talking about ?? Only you can hysteria. One about the 3rd world, the other there.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 12: 32
                0
                Quote: Denis
                Pimpy, what are you talking about ?? Only you can hysteria. One about the 3rd world, the other there.

                I'm talking about the fact that many caps are usually pumped with a lot of blood.
              2. Denis
                Denis 27 August 2013 15: 54
                +2
                Quote: Pimply
                I'm talking about the fact that many caps are usually pumped with a lot of blood.

                The fact of the matter is that no one wants war, we all express our thoughts in our own way, sometimes in a rush, turning to individuals (including myself), which is not acceptable. We argue and swear over the fucking US policy that it would be empty.
              3. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 16: 47
                -4
                Quote: Denis
                We argue and swear over the fucking US policy that it would be empty.

                Syria is not US policy. This is a policy in principle. The demonstrators were not agents of the State Department, but ordinary Syrians, to whom everything was disgusting. If Assad had not been so persistent and did not get the support of Russia, for Syria everything could have ended much better. Although, however, it is unlikely. There, one way or another, Iran and Hezbollah would have entered.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 49
    -1
    And what is he tired of if he is right. Maybe not the 3rd World War, but Russia is too much tied to external supplies of resources. And those that Qatar or the SA can make up for.
    1. ultra
      ultra 27 August 2013 15: 07
      +4
      Do you imagine the price of these resources if Russia leaves the market?
    2. 31231
      31231 27 August 2013 22: 29
      +1
      Qatar?! How will Qatar cover an additional 75 lard cubes per year to Europe at a price of $ 300-400 per thousand? What is stopping him from closing this volume now?
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2013 23: 23
        +1
        Quote: 31231
        ? What is stopping him from closing this volume now?
        Unfinished gas liquefaction facilities and international agreements. For example, the construction of an LNG terminal in Poland has begun, where Qatargas plans to supply 2014 million tons of gas annually from 1.
        1. 31231
          31231 27 August 2013 23: 55
          0
          Do not tell the price ?! Have you ever wondered why Germany invested in Norstream, and not in many LNG terminals? It seems to me that the Germans will not be dumber than the lords.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 28 August 2013 00: 07
            0
            It's about abusing
            Germany expects an increase in LNG supplies from Qatar. This was stated by German Chancellor A. Merkel.

            “A closer interaction between the two countries in the supply of liquefied gas is possible,” she said.
            1. 31231
              31231 28 August 2013 06: 14
              0
              Maybe?! Europe’s gas consumption will increase. From 250 lard it is expected to 330. You have not announced the price of Qatari gas from the Baltic.
  • Sasha
    Sasha 27 August 2013 11: 14
    +9
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Start 3 world-dare

    Why are amers not afraid to start a third world? Or fear, but are sure that Russia is more afraid? We are on an equal footing, since the world war is (probably) the end for everyone. So why should we fear more than others? Thinking out loud.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 56
      -4
      Because the amers have the strongest economy in the world and they are a superpower, which has the most powerful army in the world, and at the same time they have a bunch of allies who have similar interests and are ready to join the war with them. And now for the sake of interest - who will join Russia? Venezuela - which is one of the main suppliers of oil to the States, and which does not want to risk? Kazakhstan - which has good relations with the West? Belarus - which, at the slightest opportunity, hits Russia in the back: how, for example, with the arrest of Director Uralkali?
      1. MVS
        MVS 27 August 2013 13: 47
        +1
        Quote: Pimply
        Because the amers have the strongest economy in the world and they are a superpower, which has the most powerful army in the world, and at the same time they have a bunch of allies who have similar interests and are ready to join the war with them. And now for the sake of interest - who will join Russia? Venezuela - which is one of the main suppliers of oil to the States, and which does not want to risk? Kazakhstan - which has good relations with the West? Belarus - which, at the slightest opportunity, hits Russia in the back: how, for example, with the arrest of Director Uralkali?

        I agree with you in many respects, but I cannot but add: no matter what the economy and the army are, there will be no winner in 3MB. I doubt that at least one person will survive after the war. So no one needs war.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 14: 09
          0
          Quote: MVS
          in 3MB there will be no winner. I doubt that at least one person will survive after the war. So no one needs war

          Probably.
          1. MVS
            MVS 27 August 2013 14: 16
            +2
            Quote: Pimply
            Probably.

            Most likely it will. And even if someone survives, he will envy the dead.
      2. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 27 August 2013 13: 55
        +3
        Quote: Pimply
        Because amers has the strongest economy in the world

        Truly insanity grew stronger .........
        1. Veter
          Veter 27 August 2013 13: 58
          +2
          Quote: ziqzaq
          Truly insanity grew stronger .........

          The result of liberal under-education in the Russian Federation.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2013 14: 11
            -1
            Quote: Veter
            The result of liberal under-education in the Russian Federation.

            Funny, I studied back in the USSR. Maybe tell me where the mistake is. With numbers, preferably.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 14: 10
          -2
          Quote: ziqzaq
          Truly insanity grew stronger ........
          Want to challenge it? Forward and with FIGURES.
          1. ziqzaq
            ziqzaq 27 August 2013 15: 38
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            Want to challenge it? Forward and with FIGURES.

            And what do you call the strongest economy in the world?
            http://russian.rt.com/article/13827
            http://expert.ru/2013/08/6/proschaj-amerikanskaya-mechtai/
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 16: 48
              0
              Name the economy stronger than the US economy.
              1. vostok68
                vostok68 27 August 2013 17: 32
                +2
                And by what criteria of economy do you compare?
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2013 17: 56
                  0
                  According to the nominal (absolute) value of the gross domestic product in dollar terms, calculated using the market exchange rate or established by the authorities. The UN list, IMF list, World Bank list - everything is very clear there.
                  At purchasing power parity, the States are also ahead.
                2. vostok68
                  vostok68 27 August 2013 18: 53
                  +1
                  "In purchasing power parity, the United States is also ahead" - a masterpiece! By the way, you were not the first to notice this!
            2. ziqzaq
              ziqzaq 27 August 2013 18: 35
              +2
              Quote: Pimply
              Name the economy stronger than the US economy.

              Having a printing press is not an economy. Of course, after the victory in the Cold War, thanks to the betrayal of the hunchbacked America, she gained an undeniable advantage, and look how she took advantage of it ...
              Have you even looked at the links that were in my post? I really hope that you are not a banal troll and get acquainted with the information, even if it goes against your point of view ......
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 18: 41
                +1
                Zimbabwe has a printing press. What did he bring her to? Hyperinflation, here's the shock. Apparently, you do not know how much the USA invents, promotes and produces.
                Yes, I watched. I even collaborated a couple of times with Rush there a couple of times, and I know the place through which they rivet reports.
                And city bankrupt - this, excuse me, is also not a shock, and not an indicator of the economy as a whole. This is a common occurrence. It’s just that in Russia, for example, they cover it with beautiful statistics and funding from the federal budget. And the facts are more than objective - the US is the leading economy in the world.
              2. ziqzaq
                ziqzaq 27 August 2013 20: 22
                +2
                Quote: Pimply
                And the facts are more than objective - the US is the leading economy in the world.

                Well, time will tell ..... But now the reality is that the United States, producing about 8% of world GDP (gross product), consumes about half ... I personally prefer the Stalinist economy, I don’t know how applicable it is in modern realities .... I am sure that if you want and the will of domestic, patriotic elites, this model can be implemented .....
              3. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 20: 31
                -1
                Quote: ziqzaq
                Stalin's economy, I don’t know how applicable it is in modern realities ....


                Can you briefly describe its essence?
              4. ziqzaq
                ziqzaq 28 August 2013 00: 35
                0
                Quote: Pimply
                Can you briefly describe its essence?

                Unlike you, I am not a big specialist in economics, but I will try to state my understanding of the Stalinist model and its difference from the current American one. The main thesis of the Stalin model, in my opinion, is a fixed money supply which is regulated by the state in strict accordance with the amount of the gross product, i.e. As GDP grows, money rises in price, while goods become cheaper. At the same time, the state protects its ruble zone (as it is now in America). There is no debt interest. In the American model, a small private firm (Fed), by order of the government, prints money and interest loan gives to the state. But if only the Fed can (has the right) to print money, where can the state get these percentages? That's right, order more from the Fed, increasing the amount of debt. With this model, the money supply increases and commodity prices go up all the time. This is a system of debt slavery at its core, in essence ...
                The very meaning of money is replaced, from a measure of labor, and any product is a result of labor, money turns into a product and the main production in America is the dollar ... There is a redistribution of priority, from an auxiliary sphere serving the production of physical values, the financial sphere becomes the dominant structure, where the main profits are "earned", and this is, in principle, incorrect and immoral ....
  • vostok68
    vostok68 27 August 2013 17: 31
    +2
    Grade 8 at least finish?
  • Ustas
    Ustas 27 August 2013 14: 25
    0
    Quote: Pimply
    Because Amers has the strongest economy in the world and they are a superpower that has the most powerful army in the world.

    Bah, how much saliva.
    "Winning not by number, but by skill" A. V. Suvorov
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 15: 09
      -4
      Quote: Ustas
      Bah, how much saliva.
      "Winning not by number, but by skill" A. V. Suvorov

      Said Suvorov, with unlimited human resources, and serious financial support.

      Yes, he was right. That is why the Americans have the most powerful army - in addition to the number, they also have the ability.
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT 27 August 2013 20: 01
    0
    You idealize the United States too much ...... They are registered in bed and they are eager to fight .... I think that the "strongest economy" after participating in the invasion will collapse like a rotten barn ...... Russia will not openly climb anywhere on the contrary, it will try to do so that the United States and co are bogged down even more in debt .... BUT GDP will definitely do something to increase its rating. What is Syria for our ruling elite ???? Bargaining chip only.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 20: 07
      -2
      Quote: JonnyT
      You idealize the United States too much ... They are prescribed bed rest and they are eager to fight .... I think that the "strongest economy" after participating in the invasion will collapse like a rotten barn ...

      No, I just know what the economy is.
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 27 August 2013 20: 24
        +1
        Yes, they said how they cut it off ....
        But what about recession?

        Firstly, the crisis in the United States and, as a consequence, around the world (I think you don’t need to explain to the readers the degree of globalization of the modern economy) will intensify and will become protracted. I do not rule out temporary surges in activity and growth, for example, in connection with the outbreak of war in Iraq (or elsewhere). In the event that the Americans and their allies manage to conduct a blitzkrieg and not get caught up in long-term military operations, this will temporarily stimulate the economy (there is a clear correlation between successful military operations and the growth of domestic consumption and production (defense order)). Nevertheless, the US government has already exhausted other possibilities for overcoming the recession, and any war places a heavy burden on the budget, leading to higher prices for oil (and other energy carriers), which in turn increases the costs of consumers and companies.

        A blitzkrieg in Syria will definitely not be. There will be many downed planes and dead special forces ......
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 20: 46
          +1
          The fact is that the recession in the US economy ended in June 2009. This is stated in the official press release of the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which determines the beginning and completion of the recession in the country. In October last year, it was already possible to say that the US economy came out of recession, as the country's GDP grew for the first time in the previous year - by 3,5%. However, officially the beginning and end of the recession is announced by NBER. Since the NBER has been studying all kinds of macroeconomic indicators for a long time, an organization often reports a recession after the country has emerged from the crisis, and vice versa.

          According to NBER, the US economy has been in a recession since December 2007. The recession, which lasted for a year and a half, became the longest in the history of the country since the Second World War. In the fourth quarter of 2008, the decline in US GDP was a record for 50 years, but a year later, in the fourth quarter of 2009, the country's Department of Commerce reported on economic growth, which was the highest in six years.
          1. JonnyT
            JonnyT 27 August 2013 21: 16
            +2
            national bureau .... are you sure of the veracity of this official press release? Or maybe this is just a way to reassure investors?

            A month ago, I worked with Delta Dazaing, an American engineer, Ronald Belevard. So he said that now in the USA there is a terrible stagnation .... the development is very miserable or it does not exist at all .....

            So who do I trust the press release of the national bureau or an American engineer ???

            And let's not forget about facts such as bankruptcy of cities, and rising unemployment .....

            In my opinion, the US leadership just wants to poison economic affairs through defense orders ...... Yes, and the heads of defense plants are in power there.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 22: 20
              -1
              Quote: JonnyT
              national bureau .... are you sure of the veracity of this official press release? Or maybe this is just a way to reassure investors?


              Quite. Because to catch these guys on a mistake can be any more or less competent economist.
  • 31231
    31231 27 August 2013 22: 34
    0
    The most powerful economy with a "hole" in the official national debt in the country's annual GDP ?! Although, what am I talking about ?! I forgot "who pays for a girl, she tells fairy tales for that."
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 23: 26
      0
      Quote: 31231
      The strongest economy with a "hole" in the official public debt in the country's annual GDP?

      Does something bother you? Apparently, ignorance of economic basic truths.
      1. 31231
        31231 27 August 2013 23: 58
        -1
        Question mark at the end did not notice ?! I asked you, because here you are submitting yourself as a specialist of a wide profile. And you are again moralizing.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 28 August 2013 00: 09
          0
          Quote: 31231
          Question mark at the end did not notice ?! I asked you, because here you are submitting yourself as a specialist of a wide profile. And you are again moralizing.

          And I need to chew you the basics, how can a economy be strong with a budget deficit?
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 28 August 2013 00: 11
            0
            Quote: Pimply
            how can a economy be strong with a budget deficit?


            War?
          2. 31231
            31231 28 August 2013 07: 47
            -1
            Well, if this is not difficult of course. How multinational companies are withdrawing their production and investments in Southeast Asia from this powerful economy. Or are there no bankrupt cities in the USA and the Detroit industry is simply drowning in demand for its products and services?
          3. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 28 August 2013 08: 38
            +1
            don't prove him anything he is useless
    2. studentmati
      studentmati 27 August 2013 23: 30
      -1
      Quote: 31231
      "who pays for a girl, she tells fairy tales for that."


      !!!!!!! drinks Has the world changed?
  • 31231
    31231 27 August 2013 23: 22
    -1
    Are the Russian-speaking Jews of Israel?
  • zart_arn
    zart_arn 27 August 2013 12: 59
    +1
    None of the shapkozakidatel really substantiated why Russia needs a war. In any case, Russia will be the loser by getting involved in this war. Understand, Syria is just a pretext for dragging Iran into the war. Then it will be possible to destroy all its nuclear facilities on "legal" grounds. After that, the war will end immediately.
    1. ksan
      ksan 27 August 2013 14: 06
      +3
      zart_arn RU Today, 12:59 PM ↑

      None of the shapkozakidatel really substantiated why Russia needs a war. In any case, Russia will be the loser by getting involved in this war. Understand, Syria is just a pretext for dragging Iran into the war. Then it will be possible to destroy all its nuclear facilities on "legal" grounds. After that, the war will end immediately.
      Russia certainly does not need a war, but Iran's "nuclear program" is the same pretext as a "chemical attack". It's all about the independence and non-control of the United States, and this is the biggest sin smile When Iran was "friends" with America, and Iran's "oil industry" was 80% owned by the West, the States themselves brought the reactor to Tehran and it was with America's suggestion that Iran began its nuclear program, just like Pakistan. But as soon as it "sent" Amerov and nationalize oil wells as he immediately became an outcast
    2. novobranets
      novobranets 27 August 2013 18: 54
      +1
      If the final goal was Iran, the United States would have found a reason less scandalous and cheaper. They are masters to come up with reasons.
    3. vostok68
      vostok68 27 August 2013 18: 56
      +1
      But are they asking us? The Russians do not start the war, they end it! I hope so!
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2013 19: 01
        -1
        Quote: vostok68
        But are they asking us? The Russians do not start the war, they end it! I hope so!

        You also have a bad history.
        1. vostok68
          vostok68 27 August 2013 19: 51
          +1
          Well, you ask everyone whether you’re going to fight or not? And answer yourself, will you go to fight for Russia if the war begins?
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2013 20: 00
            +1
            Quote: vostok68
            Well, you ask everyone whether you’re going to fight or not? And answer yourself, will you go to fight for Russia if the war begins?

            I ask because I did not hear the answer. Here everyone shouts that they must send troops to Syria. The funny thing is that no one of the screamers is ready to go.

            And I do not think that the war in Syria is for Russia, forgive me.
            1. vostok68
              vostok68 27 August 2013 20: 20
              0
              I kind of asked directly, "will you go to fight for Russia" if the war starts? ", But you again avoided answering, translated to Syria, maybe I put it wrong? I don't blame you, you live with us, in Russia, and I guarantee that I will protect all citizens of Russia, no matter what happens and whatever nationality they are!
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2013 20: 40
                -3
                Quote: vostok68
                I do not blame you, you live with us, in Russia, and I guarantee that I will protect all the citizens of Russia, whatever happens and whatever nationality they are!

                And what answer did you want for a non-specific question? Let me ask if you stopped writing in the morning. Answer only yes or no.
  • novobranets
    novobranets 27 August 2013 15: 43
    0
    "are the states not afraid of ..?" They are afraid, but they are too deeply bogged down. If they turn it back now, the whole world will make fun of them. Therefore, now they are shaking their weapons, pouring boiling water over their thighs themselves with fear, "what if they are beating us up again." But the invasion is still a real threat. It was not for nothing that the United States screamed and demanded to let the BOV commission into Syria. They want the appearance of a legitimate invasion. As Ivan Andreevich wrote, "... but to give the case, a legitimate look and sense ...". They decided for themselves a long time ago, even before the commission, that Assad is a villain, poisoning people, and we, such white, fluffy saviors of humanity. The commission was looking not for BOV, but for a suitable pretext, passing by "inappropriate" evidence.
    1. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 28 August 2013 00: 01
      0

      Remembering the test tube with "anthrax" at the UN, I assumed that the commission came to Syria in order to go to the bank and pass it off as sarin.
  • Esso
    Esso 27 August 2013 10: 00
    +2
    Why fight, send the Mediterranean squadron back to the Mediterranean Sea and stand by the American ships to show our missiles, this will cool them and also Mr. Erdoran and his ministers, for Israel there are hailstones in Syria, let's see how their iron dome will save them, for tomahawks there are shells in Syria for the Yankee Aviation, Legushatniks and Tommy there are beeches about the S-300 PMU there will be no exact data. There will be a big mess, Iran has a force, the US squadron in the Persian Gulf will be tough, Iran would have our S-300 and the Su-35 squadron and su- 34 The Americans want to set fire to a barrel of gunpowder in Syria and hit the road leaving the British, French, Jews and Turks to deal with everything, and then France, Britain will flee, it is expensive there, Qatar, Syria, Iran, Turkey will suffer. Israel! And the Amers will have their own dollars. I would like to see how American ships will burn and sink in the Mediterranean Sea and the Persian Gulf from Russian weapons, I would also like to remove the flags from the sinking American aircraft carriers and so that our representative in ONN V. Churkin about I gave them to an American representative with the words: "It seems this is yours, you dropped it when you drowned and ran away!"
    1. Onotollah
      Onotollah 27 August 2013 10: 16
      +1
      Quote: Esso
      remove flags from drowning American Aircraft Carriers and that our representative in ONN V. Churkin give them away

      Comrade Assad as a legitimate war trophy.
      And best of all, like this:
    2. Grishka100watt
      Grishka100watt 27 August 2013 11: 29
      +2
      Well, how many ships do you want to fly there? And from what fleets, feel free to ask? No matter how much they collect, the Americans will drive there 3-4 times more.
      So, what is next?
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 58
      -2
      Quote: Esso
      But why fight, send the Mediterranean squadron back to the Mediterranean Sea and stand at the American ships to show our missiles, this will cool them down also of Erdoran and his ministers, for Israel there are hail in Syria,


      Do you cover the bases in Turkey, Qatar, Kuwait?
      1. vostok68
        vostok68 27 August 2013 17: 39
        +1
        And you are aware that our ships of the 70s are raiders designed for one hit and the complete destruction of the enemy, although of course the destroyers Erly Burke are very strong ships, we have nothing to oppose them!
      2. Esso
        Esso 27 August 2013 18: 02
        +1
        Turkey, Qatar and Kuwait I think Iran will worry!
    4. atalef
      atalef 27 August 2013 21: 02
      -4
      Quote: Esso
      Why fight, send the Mediterranean squadron back to the Mediterranean Sea and stand by American ships to show our missiles,

      Just wondering how to show it?

      Quote: Esso
      for Israel there are hailstones in Syria, let's see how their iron dome will save

      Syria had at least 5 reasons to answer Israel, either there are no Hailstones, or ..... bench press


      Quote: Esso
      I would like to see how American ships will burn and sink in the Mediterranean Sea and the Persian Gulf from Russian weapons

      I don’t know how much more you cuckoo has poured life. but I think half the forest will not pump up to this point.

      Quote: Esso
      to our representative in ONN V. Churkin

      Probably it will be another Churkin, since this Churkin is at the UN.
      1. 31231
        31231 27 August 2013 23: 31
        0
        Russia, too, did not have the opportunity to answer the Germans in 1917. You are rather big and must understand what a civil war is. Or is it a sin for the Israeli authorities, like the Germans in 1917, not to pluck a country struggling with the "cholera of radical Islam"?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 23: 57
          +2
          Quote: 31231
          Or is it a sin for the Israeli authorities, like the Germans in 1917, not to pluck a country struggling with the "cholera of radical Islam"?

          Another radical Islam? Syria, for a moment, has sponsored dozens of years of radical Islamists from Hamas and Islamic Jihad, as well as from Hezbollah. And they pay her reciprocity.
          1. 31231
            31231 28 August 2013 06: 22
            0
            Assad’s power stands on radical Islam ?! Wow. And why do not bombard Qatar and Saudi Arabia radical Palestinians ?!
      2. Esso
        Esso 29 August 2013 20: 25
        0
        Dear term, to show the conditional, to stand in front of the American fleet and thus present an ultimatum, Americans understand the language of force with equal fight or with someone who can seriously answer!
        About Syria’s response and all the stupid Jews’ raids, but you didn’t think that they fired on dummies, and why did the Syrians answer Israel with heavy weapons to start a full-fledged war. Weapons are there, if they do not shoot, this does not mean that they are not there and they cannot fire, there are orders from the military department!
        But the cuckoo didn’t pump anything to me, maybe at 88 Americans seem to have escaped from the Black Sea, beaten up, by 2 of our guard ships smaller in displacement! About Churkin didn’t understand what you meant, first think and then write!
        Americans are jumping soon!
      3. Cynic
        Cynic 30 August 2013 18: 34
        0
        Quote: atalef
        or ..... bench press

        In a sense, it may be true at the moment!
        Definitely, who, who, but not Israel, is interested in peace in the Middle East.
        The unstable situation there can only be a danger to the citizens of your state, but the world, even the state itself and nuclear weapons will not save.
        It has long been said
        time to throw stones, and time to collect
        (Ecclesiastes 3: 5)
        What will you do when the time comes to pay the bills. And it will come, no doubt.
  • artemiy
    artemiy 27 August 2013 10: 00
    +3
    IRAN WILL FIGHT FOR ASAD !!! http://warfiles.ru/show-37320-iran-ugrozhaet-ssha-sereznymi-posledstviyami-v-slu

    chae-vtorzheniya-v-siriyu.html
    1. atalef
      atalef 27 August 2013 21: 03
      +1
      Quote: artemiy
      IRAN WILL FIGHT FOR ASAD

      \
      Of course, only how, with what and where? You are on the Course that between Syria and Iran more than 1000 km
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 27 August 2013 10: 04
    +3
    I hope the United States, England and their dogs wash their own blood.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 10: 24
      0
      Quote: Ruslan_F38
      I hope the United States, England and their dogs wash their own blood.

      The problem is that they also shed a lot of blood.
  • ShturmKGB
    ShturmKGB 27 August 2013 10: 19
    +1
    Sadly, I hope the aggressors get a decent response ...
    1. saruman
      saruman 27 August 2013 11: 58
      +5
      It seems that Syria will soon roll out like Libya.
      Our military and political leadership will once again "wash away". Shout for the sake of decency - "so low", and will not do anything real. The Yankees with the Saudis-Qataris, who should have already been shoved with money, scared someone.
      But in general, Syria 2013 is Spain 1938. Draw your own conclusions. Then in Spain, it was not possible to stop the spread of the fascist infection, but honestly tried. Now we play giveaways with the natofascists. It will end badly.
      A favorable scenario for the West is the pulling of Russia and China into the zone of created chaos, with the subsequent destruction as subjects of international law and dismemberment into amorphous quasi-states. An unfavorable scenario for the West is a world war, which becomes inevitable in any geopolitical situation by 2020-25.
      For Russia now it is necessary to use every opportunity to weaken its geopolitical opponents. Syria is one of the possibilities, how will we use it? - a big question!
      1. KG_patriot_last
        KG_patriot_last 27 August 2013 12: 11
        +6
        said the same thing above - slammed 2 minus, you 1 plus ...

        probably people are lost from this news that they themselves do not know what to do ...
  • bomg.77
    bomg.77 27 August 2013 16: 16
    +1
    Quote: gud123
    The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!! angry
    Let’s see who sent whom and who will go. Before the G20 summit, they’re scary for GDP, we’ll see what he says. It’s too early to sprinkle ash on your head.
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 27 August 2013 16: 27
    0
    just spat in the face! Where is our authority ???
  • Luger
    Luger 27 August 2013 20: 15
    0
    The people who have read or seen, or perhaps heard, or at worst think what will Iran do in the event of an attack on Syria?
    1) Will he rub off and wait until he arrives too?
    2) stir up a bunch of terrorist attacks in Israel and the United States?
    3) Will enter into open conflict?

    It seems to me that Syria is left face to face to solve its problems.
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 27 August 2013 22: 05
    0
    Quote: gud123
    The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!! angry


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  • figwam
    figwam 27 August 2013 22: 13
    -1
    It's time to start an operation to force the West to peace
  • vjhbc
    vjhbc 28 August 2013 00: 27
    0
    what opinion if all the money in the west and all these dances are just to dust the brains of the people like everyone did what they could
    Quote: gud123
    The jokes were over and the opinion of Russia was again sent nafig !!!!! angry
  • a52333
    a52333 27 August 2013 09: 02
    +1
    If you look hard, you can find "pearls" in a piece of shit. The fleet must be brought closer to the SAR, and diplomacy. Scream at all levels.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 27 August 2013 09: 13
      +7
      Quote: a52333
      The fleet needs to be adjusted closer to the ATS


      Already customized.
      A detachment of ships of the Pacific Fleet (PF), led by the guards missile cruiser Varyag, embarked on a long sea voyage, during which they will visit Australia and Vietnam,
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 27 August 2013 09: 33
        +1
        This trip to Australia Varyaga was planned back in March wink . By the way, Moscow will join them in the campaign, which went around the world.
      2. RUSSIA 2013
        RUSSIA 2013 27 August 2013 09: 46
        +4
        It is necessary to strengthen the naval grouping, send additional fleet ships, strengthen air defense in Tartus, and more rigidly declare their position in Syria, Russia and China, remove all restrictions on the supply of heavy weapons.
        1. Grishka100watt
          Grishka100watt 27 August 2013 11: 33
          0
          remove all restrictions on the supply of heavy weapons.

          Yes? But nothing that block Syria from the sea? You recall the Caribbean crisis, where even the Soviet Union did not dare to break the sea blockade of Cuba?
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 27 August 2013 15: 45
            +1
            Quote: Grishka100watt
            Yes? But nothing that block Syria from the sea? You recall the Caribbean crisis, where even the Soviet Union did not dare to break the sea blockade of Cuba?

            The blockade of the Island of Freedom BREAKTHROUGH by Soviet DPLs, of course, it must be said not always successfully, BUT attempts were made.
            And if there were nuclear submarines, then the "alignment" would be somewhat different.
            And we must pay tribute to the military, opposing the United States, the firmness of Cuba and Soviet diplomacy, which was able to "pull" from the confrontation the MAXIMUM of preferences for the USSR ...
        2. vostok68
          vostok68 27 August 2013 18: 13
          0
          God bless your words! Unfortunately there is nothing to strengthen, we will have to defend ourselves at the border, there will be many losses!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 09: 36
      +7
      Quote: a52333
      . The fleet needs to be adjusted closer to the SAR, and diplomacy. Scream at all levels.

      The fleet will not do anything during air raids, especially since the amers have bases throughout the region. With regard to diplomacy, the amers put on the UN.
      1. ultra
        ultra 27 August 2013 10: 13
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The fleet will not do anything during air raids,

        In this case, it is necessary to show the seriousness of intentions, to check, so to speak, the opponent for "lice".
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 10: 54
          +1
          Quote: ultra

          In this case, it is necessary to show the seriousness of intentions, to check, so to speak, the opponent for "lice".

          And if the opponent does not behave, then how will Russia look in the eyes of the whole world?
          1. ultra
            ultra 27 August 2013 11: 52
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And if the opponent does not behave,

            Judging by the opponent, there is a high probability that he will behave!
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 13: 01
              -1
              Quote: ultra
              Judging by the opponent, there is a high probability that he will behave!

              Probability ...., well, goodbye hi
              1. ultra
                ultra 27 August 2013 15: 11
                +1
                And diplomacy is always the art of the possible! bully
              2. vostok68
                vostok68 27 August 2013 18: 16
                +1
                Our first dead ship marks the beginning of the war, and there we will see!
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2013 18: 23
                  -1
                  Quote: vostok68
                  Our first dead ship marks the beginning of the war, and there we will see!

                  It’s so right to spit on the forecast of events.
                  1. soldier's grandson
                    soldier's grandson 27 August 2013 18: 35
                    -1
                    Well, was Kursk, so what? Where is the war?
                  2. vostok68
                    vostok68 27 August 2013 19: 01
                    +1
                    And the forecast is not very good, but we are not used to it! Do you offer to give up?
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 27 August 2013 19: 22
                      -2
                      I propose first of all to include the head, and not ambition.
                      1. 31231
                        31231 28 August 2013 08: 04
                        -1
                        Personally, I still see the ambitions of Syria's "friends" led by the United States. Russia, on the other hand, works under international contracts and does not offend anyone.
                2. novobranets
                  novobranets 27 August 2013 19: 06
                  0
                  Our first dead ship marks the beginning of the war, and there we will see!
                  It is necessary to look before, and not destroy ships and sailors without a clear goal. This is a gamble.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 11: 59
          -2
          Well, check it out. Do you want to spoil relations with other states amid the growing power of China on the borders of the Russian Federation?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 13: 03
            -1
            Quote: Pimply
            amid the growing power of China on the borders of the Russian Federation?

            Eugene, you ride on the Far East and see for yourself. Besides you from St. Petersburg, they’re not there, they don’t see this. The Chinese don’t
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 13: 19
              -2
              Sash, look at the level of the Chinese army in recent times, at the general behavior of China, and at the borders. What to see? Armada on the border? And so, one of the most combat-ready Chinese armies there, is actively laying roads in the region.
              Of the seven military districts of China, the most powerful are the districts with headquarters in Beijing and Shenyang adjacent to the border with the Russian Federation (the first is oriented to the Siberian Military District of the RF Armed Forces, the second to the Far East). These districts account for 4 of 9 tank and 6 of 9 mechanized divisions, 6 of 12 tank brigades of the PLA ground forces. Another 2 armored divisions and 1 brigade are part of the district with headquarters in Lanzhou (occupies the western part of the country, oriented to Central Asia, Mongolia and Siberia west of Lake Baikal), and 1 armored, 1 mechanized divisions, 2 armored and the only mechanized in the PLA brigades are part of the Jinan District, which is located in the center of the country and is a strategic reserve for the Beijing, Shenyang, Lanzhou and Nanjing districts.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 13: 34
                +1
                Quote: Pimply
                Armada on the border?

                They are not, do not stand not on our side.
                Quote: Pimply
                These districts account for 4 of 9 tank and 6 of 9 mechanized divisions,

                Hahaha, where are you going to rush into these hills wassat
                Once again, I tell you, the Chinese are smarter than amers.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2013 13: 39
                  0
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  They are not, do not stand not on our side.

                  Sasha, when the armadas are on the border - this is a declaration of war.

                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Once again, I tell you, the Chinese are smarter than amers.

                  Exactly. That is why they sharply build up their army, took away Africa, and actively gnaw off pieces from neighbors. And also I would recommend reading what they write about the Far East, and whose primordial territory it is considered.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 15: 27
                    +2
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Sasha, when the armadas are on the border - this is a declaration of war.

                    No, this is preparation for an invasion, a warrior. Now the military on both sides is withdrawn.
                    Quote: Pimply
                    . And also I would recommend reading what they write about the Far East, and whose primordial territory it is considered.

                    We also have enough Natsiks, just like in China. There is an official position of the Chinese authorities on this point. The United States is a real threat, although I understand it is an ally of Israel and Obama is also your own wink
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 27 August 2013 16: 49
                      -1
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      No, this is preparation for an invasion, a warrior. Now the military on both sides is withdrawn.

                      The troops at the border are, in fact, a declaration of war.
          2. ksan
            ksan 27 August 2013 14: 15
            +2
            Pimpled (1) RU Today, 11:59 ↑

            Well, check it out. Do you want to spoil relations with other states amid the growing power of China on the borders of the Russian Federation?
            With what others? With whom do we have relationships that will deteriorate because of Syria? And with China we probably have the most friendly relations, except in the CU. And China, with all its might, does not behave like an elephant in a china shop.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2013 14: 22
              -1
              Europe, Arab States, Turkey, USA
          3. ultra
            ultra 27 August 2013 15: 13
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            Do you want to spoil relations with other states amid the growing power of China on the borders of the Russian Federation?

            And if you don’t spoil, then they will harness for us, if that! lol
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 27 August 2013 10: 59
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        With regard to diplomacy, the amers put on the UN.

        I will allow myself to practically repeat my comment on the "next branch" regarding the UN ...

        In the event of US aggression, Russia needs to temporarily suspend its membership in this "talking shop" because the UN, as a body called upon to resolve global issues, has completely exhausted itself.