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Team "gases"

What is, in fact, clumsy in the Gaza team, if it works successfully? Iraq reminds? Well, so the Americans in Iraq have achieved their. Why not use the recipe again? Assad recalcitrant? It's easy to be disobedient when China is yours. Asad’s behavior is stupid, not in an abusive sense, but of little intellectual nature, and he pays for his own stupidity, not for endurance.

If he enjoys the support of a strong country for quite a long time, then it was necessary not only to be proud of the whole world for this remarkable fact, but to quietly agree with everyone, bargain for favorable conditions. He needed to carefully analyze the situation. Suppose, even six months ago, Asad could show the United States fig, but now Russia's economic reports have come out - the economy is worth (+ 0,2%), and it may soon begin to fall. But the fact that Russia is approaching a recession was already known a year ago - this should have been a reason to think about this to your Asad.

And if he watched his jacket for a smaller one, he would suddenly realize that the Olympics would soon come to Russia, and she herself would not be disgraced, as Assad is already here. In addition, the Far East flooded ... And China refuses to take gas at Russian prices and even at market prices; Europe, in turn, forces Gazprom to sign contracts on buyer's terms. Ukraine does not want to go to the Customs Union - this is all much darker than the war in Syria. This is the end of a hypothetical empire, even in a hypothetical far future. There are more internal problems in Russia than in Syria.

Assad should have foreseen this and not engaged in this nonsense. There is a duck about chemical weapons? Run to the UN, drag experts, journalists, anyone to yourself - show that you have nothing but a hoe and a noose.

The same from the beginning of the year, China has been repeating that it is reorienting to the domestic market, and in general he would have to support GDP growth by 7,5% - that’s the main task, he’s not up to Assad. If growth is less than 7%, then China will begin a dizzying fall into the abyss. Does he need this? Yes, when they start bombing, the Chinese Foreign Ministry will bring something about the Americans, but it will not do any real movements. There is no economic or political sense. Everyone already knows that he can roar at America, but the reason is too small.

Who for whom?

In fact, on one side of the scale there will be the United States and those they ask, and on the other side of the scale there will be Assad with the army and ... almost no one else, and the United States will be much heavier. This means not enchanting analytical reports in the media about how Iran and China send armada tanks and paratroopers by air on the Russian MIGs and Antonovs, and the alignment of forces in the event of a real military operation.

The United States does not begin to fight, if there is no overwhelming advantage in everything on their side, well, except for manpower (so it is not needed there, let the brave Aborigines be cut). And if the situation, now, after long quarrels at a diplomatic level, is developing so rapidly, it means that the United States has already created a total advantage and are confident of success.


Implications for the UK and France

None Freezing bilateral negotiations will not: terminate the contract - get isolation, freeze accounts of major "figures" of "science and art" of the Russian Federation, blocking businesses, weaning real estate, sending entrepreneurs, and even landing - all Russian entrepreneurs for the West are thieves and everyone has compromising. And if the boycott of the Olympics? Who will go? Snowden knows that no one will go anywhere. What is there to talk about if the Russian largest AvtoVAZ plant is controlled by the French and its director Carlos Gon? What is freezing here.

China is even simpler - China is pragmatic, the EU is its largest sales market and investment partner. Freeze contracts for Assad? Pffff ...

With regard to the return of bearded sons, this problem is dragged a little by the ears. Firstly, Syria is not for a couple of days, and from there it is still necessary to return, and secondly, besides Syria - after Syria - there are many excellent goals. No need to exaggerate the significance of individual terrorist attacks in Europe: ETA and IRA, and even earlier the RAF put people in Europe much more and more successfully than bearded abreks. Well, last year's shooting of special forces in France is just a naive example. In Beslan, the color of the group Alpha was knocked out in ten minutes. That's what - and that's where! - it is necessary to be afraid of bearded sons. And this was what some people needed to spend money on - to strengthen internal security - and not on the Olympics and not on the hikes of rusty boats to the shores of Syria. Chickens to laugh.

Jordan

With the beginning of the war, Jordan will simply stop accepting refugees and everything - that there will be no one to worry about with them. In which case they will apply weapon. So everyone does.

Turkey

With regard to refugees - the same as in Jordan. Everything else will be the same as now. “Massive Syrian Armed Response” after the first week of the American bombing will be possible only if in a computer game based on ... Turkey itself can take part in the show along with other scorers. Why not?

Israel

Refugees will not be accepted - where can I get something? A couple of rockets will fall, a couple of cars will be blown up at a checkpoint, Israel, as usual, will blow half of Lebanon back and it will all end. Iran will not bomb Israel, all the more “massively”, because the war is not between Israel and Iran, Syria for Iran, as well as for Russia, is only a reason for unsubstantiated self-affirmation on the world stage. After Syria, Iran will simply look for another reason to rumble against Israel - this is much safer for Iran. And it will be right for a thin world better than a good quarrel.

Qatar and Saudi Arabia

What is the purpose of the overlap of the Gulf of Hormuz? Again - for what / whom?

The popular thesis that Iran has nothing to lose is rather strange ... Why is it that Iran has nothing to lose? Yes, there is an agreement on mutual aid with Syria, so what? Syria as a full-fledged strong state no longer exists. And Iran exists. Will decide whether to start a fight with the United States for a heap of stones. If so, for what purpose? Yes, he may be next after Syria, and maybe he will not. If it does, then we must not climb on the rampage, bringing the inevitable closer, but to develop a system of measures for prevention - to be smarter than Assad. Iran is called the “next” goal since the “Desert Storm” or even earlier. Well, it's better for him to focus on strengthening internal security, rather than on helping stupid allies. So he will do. Iran is not so powerful to be with the United States, but rich enough and it has something to lose. Will think what to do next.

USA

“Economic agony in the USA” is nothing more than a dream. It exists in the imagination of comrades of years ... well ... forty years, for sure. Yes, more! It's all in the heap usually - some nonsense about the bankruptcy of cities (700 bankruptcies from 37 year - everything ... kapets America came), poverty in Detroit (from 70-s.). For some unknown reason, people often see one side of a complex phenomenon. For example, "a quarter of the total volume of oil supplied to the United States from Venezuela." So compare Venezuela and the United States - this means that Venezuela depends on the United States not less, but more than the United States on Venezuela. If it were not so, the late light, Hugo Chavez, would cover up the crank, would cover up. But not covered.

And the trump card is "debt to China." Yes, more than that! Russia is among the top ten creditors of the United States. So what? What will happen the day after China demands that the debts be returned from the US? If the US turns out to be honest, (hahaha), then the next morning, it’s not the USA, which has a cloud of reserves in case of wars with aliens and hundreds more reliable creditors, but China, which still lives due to export, and the USA - the largest importer of Chinese goods. Turn over the entire economy of the world. True, for this it is necessary for China to be supported by Japan (hyhyhy) because it is slightly less creditor than China.

But ... think for yourself, will China go to this for the sake of Assad? China depends on the United States as well as the United States on it, even the term appeared such “Chimerica” - an interdependent economic megastructure from the United States and China.

The possible gain from the war with Syria is the enrichment of the United States, isn't it? Rich USA is richer China. A wealthy China is a stabilizing European economy - a key partner of China ... Well, who the hell has this Assad surrendered to? Once again: China is pragmatic and this is the main quality of its policy.

Results

The analysis is really superficial. Millions of Syrian refugees are the problem of refugees, not of neighboring countries. Popular unrest is caused more effectively by homosexuals, and wars go on constantly, but all on the drum. For example, in terms of the level of terrorism, Russia is in a 4 place in the world because of the actual war in Dagestan. So what? Society is much more nervous not because of Dagestan, which is already here, very close, but because of Syria and because of homosexuals. Economic blows - in spite of my mother freeze my ears - no fools. Only Russia is capable of this, and only in the performance of the current management team, but it cannot hit anything. Direct intervention "on the South Ossetian variant" - yes, funny joke. Credit

Iraqi neutrality? The author probably wanted to say Iranian. Well, this is not neutrality, but non-interference.
Yes, most likely it will end with the words etc. I wish it ended with words.
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  1. +82
    27 August 2013 10: 13
    until I read to the end, I thought Chubais wrote an article, or Navalny
    1. +18
      27 August 2013 10: 16
      Of course, every opinion has a place to be, but ... somehow it's all gloomy.
      The author’s attitude to this topic is not clear. It seems to have revealed the worst option. Couldn't it be better?
      1. +52
        27 August 2013 10: 25
        Vladik, do you think everything was correctly and evenly laid out on the shelves? ..... Russia many times in its history turned over such shelves and hammered its irrational nail (last example: Kosovo vs Abkhazia and South Ossetia, symmetrical answer) .... time will tell who is hu ..... Vlasov also thought that they had chosen the right, strong, smart and powerful side
        1. +13
          27 August 2013 11: 00
          The West and the United States will not let Syria out of their clutches. All this was not brewed so that, with an apology for the "mistake", to let the Assad regime go in peace. It is impossible to reduce power by the forces and hands of the imaginary opposition and the "armed fighters for democracy" from al-Qaeda who have joined them. Helping the "cannibals" with weapons and money has become unattractive. Apparently they decided to take everything into their own hands and put an end to Assad at once, none of them thinks about the further consequences of this upcoming bloody action: "there will be a day, there will be food." There will be a sea of ​​blood ...
      2. +7
        27 August 2013 15: 28
        Quote: Hauptmann Emil
        Of course, every opinion has a place to be, but ... somehow it's all gloomy. The author’s attitude to this topic is not clear

        Of course ... everyone, if justified, has the right to an opinion. Moreover, there is a rational link in the article.
        But the trick is that MIND DO NOT UNDERSTAND RUSSIA! Well, they can’t understand us for centuries in the West, and from here they cannot understand the rules of the game with us ... AND THIS IS OUR STRENGTH!
      3. -1
        27 August 2013 20: 36
        And why not be such a scenario? Putin, to be honest, is not up to Syria now. The flooded Far East was correctly indicated here, the level of production in the country is falling, salaries are being reduced, which in turn leads to a fall in the domestic market, gas and oil are selling worse, investments are not going, and on the contrary, the export of capital, so Putin now needs first in Russia to restore order, and only then deal with Syria, Iran, etc. otherwise you can lose Russia by engaging in Syria.
        1. +3
          27 August 2013 21: 19
          Yes, in the article, although it is vulgarly stated, there is a rational beginning.
          In my opinion, at the time, without having installed air defense systems under an agreement with Iran, Russia already then lost its influence in the Middle East. With Iran’s modern air defense capable of covering its sky, Russia could calmly
          bring everyone to the EU + US into a bloody dump with Syria + Iran. This was a real opportunity to strengthen their influence and authority in the Islamic world and at the same time to exhaust their potential enemies financially and politically. Strengthen the crisis processes and socio-political instability of the West.
          But for this, the Kremlin should have had pro-Russian cadres and not State Department footmen.
          Now it’s too late to change something.
    2. artemiy
      +25
      27 August 2013 10: 39
      Article bullshit!
      1. +9
        27 August 2013 14: 03
        Quote: artemiy
        Article bullshit!

        You can’t say more precisely, the author constantly contradicts himself, for example, he says that China will reorient to the domestic market, and then declares that China will hold on to exports to the United States, if the domestic market is more important, it can easily aggravate from the United States, and if more important than the external one, the Middle East region is very interesting to China for its energy resources, having lost Libya, it will hold on to Syria. I also liked the author’s phrase about a trip of rusting troughs to the coast of Syria, but he won’t tell what year the majority of US ships release? Much older than ours ..
        Regarding the fact that Iran has nothing to lose, it generally made fun, i.e. the only ally on B.V. Yes, and with a good army, do you think anything? He also says that Iran is not in a position to compete with the United States, well, in my opinion, history has proved that any country can do it in the United States if it is properly organized, even when amers use the scorched earth tactics.
        The author constantly says that you need to deal only with internal problems, but as history shows, this leads to isolation of the country, and to no good, friends are always needed ..
        At the expense of Europe, it is clear that the loss of Syria for Russia is much more tangible than the loss of money in the accounts of Western banks, which they will not give them to us, using for example an occasion to violate the rights of gays in Russia.
        On account of the fact that Europe refuses to take our energy resources, yes, please, the money for them is still deposited on the accounts of the oligarchs, and you would have used this oil and gas for the internal needs of industry as in the Union ..
        Well, and of course I was most surprised by the Olympics, is it not clear to him that surrendering to Syria means a significant increase in bearded men in the Caucasus and, accordingly, kirdyk Olympics!
        1. Fish_Ob_Ice
          0
          28 August 2013 10: 11
          I apologize, maybe I missed something, but how will Europe give up our energy resources? O_o Do they have an alternative? If they had it, they would not be hysterical and would not threaten us with lawsuits, and God knows what else. They will not get away from us anywhere.
      2. +3
        27 August 2013 15: 49
        Quote: artemiy
        Article bullshit!

        not.. No. , Sivokabily nonsense is more logical ... the article is Malevich’s square - if it makes no sense then anyone can think of it ... hi
        1. artemiy
          0
          27 August 2013 16: 05
          Looks like Navalny put a hand to her fool
        2. 0
          27 August 2013 19: 07
          Isn’t there a lot of commentary, moreover voluminous, emotional ... and opinions? and everyone came to this nonsense, although it’s natural to take some moments seriously I just can’t. That’s why I like such articles. Not like others. People started to fuss, something unusual on the site)) well, it’s more interesting with such opinions? and many on the armor every day ... all my life
          (I didn't mean you "on the armor")
      3. 0
        27 August 2013 17: 26
        Quote: artemiy
        Article bullshit!

        I agree with you all 150%. The author clearly ran away from a well-known institution. Ostrich cynicism. Vlad Pecherin, or the one behind him, clearly claims to a certain place among comedians. He grabbed the tops and is trying to convince everyone that we should all have the same thoughts as him. He does not pull on a comedian. In my opinion, they also fail to appear smart. One phrase suggests itself - Chatterbox, a find for our liberals, and not only for ours.
        At one time, by the Decree of Peter 1 of October 4, 1703, it was said: "I will instruct the senators to speak at assemblies and in the presence of gentlemen only in words, and not according to what is written, so that everyone can see the foolishness of everyone." And he also said that. - The subordinate in the face of the superiors must look dashing and silly, so as not to confuse the authorities with his understanding. "
        Well done Vlad Pecherin! You successfully fulfill the Decree of Peter 1. The boss for you is FORUM AND CITIZENS OF RUSSIA.
        I remembered: "- I have the right? - Yes, you have! - So I can? - No, you can't!"
        TIP: NOTHING TO DEFECT RUSSIA !!! ADVICE ON DAMAGE:
        1. DAOSS
          0
          27 August 2013 23: 46
          "ADVICE: THERE IS NOTHING TO SHAME RUSSIA !!! ADVICE on pulling:"
          There is good reason to believe that Russia will shock with rusty weapons, but how the amers will bomb Syria, collect manat and dump it. How many times it was!
          So that your advice is off topic! Russia itself has repeatedly dishonored itself and for the sake of Syria the 3rd World War will not begin!
          As it was in 41g, until the last we hope that we will not be touched, all the allies will be salt, and then we will be partisan on our territory, and the amers with Jews and Angles will call us terrorists.
          He spoke gloomily, Ugh, Ugh, Ugh of course, a tip in my tongue. But I FEEL that it will be so.
          Therefore, remember my words to those who will be negative!
      4. +1
        27 August 2013 20: 49
        Do not insult the mare (although she is gray, but not so mean).
    3. +16
      27 August 2013 12: 04
      The article is unpleasant, but much is, unfortunately. The thing is that the course of this action may not go according to the scenario ... Water in the Far East began to decline, the price of oil may rise, moreover, sharply, if hostilities begin near the oil region and Russia take and help Assad, which then ? Everything is not so clear ...
      1. Gur
        +23
        27 August 2013 13: 52
        The most unpleasant thing, in the article and in life, is the truth, the truth is that we (Russia) can't (or don't want) to do shit, I don't know how far-sighted our politicians are, I would like to believe what is behind the refusal to fight over Syria (Lavrov), we are thus preparing the United States for another trap, in terms of ruin and the final undermining of authority, influence, etc. and so on. I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE IT. But while we have to look and see not nice things, when it would seem that the success of our leader of the Internal Troops Putin in the west is followed by such a slap in the face (in cases of an attack on Syria) when, in fact, nobody needs his authority and the authority of our country. , since we are in the role of a dog that barks but does not bite (where are we to bears), it is all the more offensive that, as I already wrote, many who stood up for Assad begin to blow away even on the site, and this makes it even worse, because you understand that all our bravado is just zilch, and chatting on the Internet, without any action (before, people even organized rallies and demonstrations with posters "Hands off Vietnam) respect after that falls not only to the country but also to oneself, (the reasons described above) As for "our Assad", he is guilty of one and more essential, one cannot pull the cat by the balls, this problem had to be solved quickly, with lightning speed, tough. Alas, it is clear that not only Russians learn from their mistakes, the experience of the dead leaders of neighboring countries can be seen was not indicative for him. Now if Assad leaves everything as it is in case of an attack and does not announce mobilization (and that they have a holy war there), then the fate of Gaddafi is assured to him. And guessing like what will happen with oil and the Olympics and whether Russia and China will help Syria, I think it's not even worth it, if we would like to do something for Syria, our fleet would already go there, and he (the fleet only now did not understand Black Sea or Pacific) goes to the shores of Australia and Vietnam, probably out of harm's way.
        1. +12
          27 August 2013 15: 05
          It seems that all countries play their roles in advance, including Russia. From the moment of the collapse of the USSR, especially in the last years of the USSR under Gorbachev and to the current government, I see treason against Russia. Otherwise, how to explain the constant step-by-step surrender of the positions: to list for a long time here are some of the many surrenders: the collapse of the organization of the Warsaw Pact countries, I understand the collapse of the USSR, but it was possible to create a similar counterbalance to NATO, the closer countries to the borders of Russia, allowed to divide Yugoslavia, the fall of Iraq , Libya, now it is also possible to Syria, then what is Iran? Otherwise, how could we explain the refusal of deliveries of c-300 to Iran, perhaps they didn’t deliver Syria, I read it as if we didn’t put Syria’s combat fighters and many weapons that would permanently discourage the desire to attack Syria. It turns out that fulfilling the request of Israel and America, our authorities thereby gave Syria absent-mindedly to be torn to pieces by the NATO, and in order to save our face we support the supply of weak Syrian weapons, we are demonstratively conducting the squadron exercises off the coast of Syria to make it clear that Syria is under protection. Now the aggravated situation of the 2 fleet Usa getting ready for aggression and where is our fleet? and he sailed in advance to the shores of Australia and to Cuba with Venezuela. One question ... but not everything is so hopeless - the example with the defense of Abkhazia and South Ossetia showed that we can show our will contrary to the west. But there are practically no such examples I want more.
        2. 755962
          0
          27 August 2013 19: 43
          Quote: GUR
          the truth is that we (Russia) can’t (or don’t want) to do the damn thing, I don’t know how far-sighted our politicians are

          S-300 can stop the aggressor’s plans to invade Syria [т]

          Russian S-300 air defense systems could stop US plans to invade Syria if they are in Syria or 24 hours from it. At the same time, the Syrian army is trained to use them.


          http://telegrafist.org/2013/08/27/81790/

          To beat or not to beat ?!
          That is the question....
          1. Gur
            0
            28 August 2013 07: 43
            The Russian fleet, the Chinese army, the Iranian army could stop the aggression in Syria, this is a much more real thing than the S-300, which is either there or not in Syria, and whether the Syrians can use them. (Moreover, these armies should already be on Syria)
      2. marc
        -5
        27 August 2013 14: 01
        Do you believe that the market sets the price of oil? Naively, the United States sets it, as soon as we look askance at the price of oil drops to 6 bucks, that is how the USSR collapsed.
        1. +1
          27 August 2013 19: 40
          marc SU Today, 14:01 ↑

          Do you believe that the market sets the price of oil? Naively, the United States sets it, as soon as we look askance at the price of oil drops to 6 bucks, that is how the USSR collapsed.
          Always amazed how people want to show their stupidity to the whole world. This is what a new fashion or "trend of the times" - LOOK at me and be sure to announce this on some forum or post your moronic act on You Tube, and with sincere joyful comments.
          1. marc
            -1
            27 August 2013 20: 14
            Everything is in order with your head, I express my opinion and rely on my experience and the books I have read, and if it really hurts my eyes, then do not read, you are still wearing pink glasses.
            1. +2
              27 August 2013 22: 07
              marc SU Today, 20:14 ↑

              Everything is in order with your head, I express my opinion and rely on my experience and the books I read, and if it really hurts my eyes, don’t read, you’re still wearing pink glasses
              In what "book" did you read that the US sets the price of oil? smile Yes, and it says in this "book" how the US will lower oil to 6 dollars? smile My advice to you, throw this stupid book
              1. +1
                28 August 2013 11: 10
                Quote: ksan
                In what "book" did you read that the US sets the price of oil?
                In general, books are useful to read, you can watch the corresponding programs on TV if you are too lazy to understand. If you don't like the term US, then use the term CIA or "world behind the scenes". And so, there are also specific persons who organized this economic sabotage with the aim of the collapse of the USSR, when the oil price was artificially lowered from $ 110 in 1979 to $ 19 in 1990. Our losses from this amounted to about $ 800 billion, about $ 20 billion from the anti-alcohol company ... This led to the collapse.
                Nobody denies that the leadership is stupid and corrupt. The analysis is always assumed to be comprehensive, at least it must be remembered that any cataclysm always has several reasons (a consequence of systemic concepts of processes). You have to be kinder to your opponents.

                Quote: ksan
                My advice to you is throw this stupid book away
                This is really stupid advice. Books need to be read more ... Anecdote to the topic:
                To constantly sit on social networks and be proud that you don’t watch TV is the same as sitting on a heroine and be proud of not drinking.
        2. +3
          27 August 2013 22: 20
          marc SU Today, 14:01 ↑

          Do you believe that the market sets the price of oil? Naively, the United States sets it, as soon as we look askance at the price of oil drops to 6 bucks, that is how the USSR collapsed.
          Yes, I’ll add: the USSR - not the price of oil collapsed, but its own stupid, not competent in economics and corrupt management. And blaming himself for external circumstances is destiny of ALL mediocre, brainless and corrupt executives to at least somehow justify his worthlessgoverning body. Yes, but the "book" is still thrown away smile
      3. vaddag1
        +10
        27 August 2013 14: 04
        "but a lot is true, unfortunately" - and what a lot? which of the following can force us to change our position towards Syria? boycott of the Olympics - we will fall more in the eyes of the world, if because of this we lie down to the west, but the resort city has been put in order, the athletes have plenty of space. fall in oil prices or decrease in economy. growth - so we do not spend much on Syria, but the empire can no longer afford to bend because of economic difficulties in the future, because then there is no sense in it, difficulties are our lifestyle. not calm in the Caucasus - since the collapse of the USSR, we are strangling reptiles systematically - a gorgeous experience. The flood in the Far East is nonsense, the damage is tolerable, there are no casualties, the country has not abandoned - compensation is paid, the children have left the country. and most importantly, no panic, all services worked, the people were calm. information from the original source - I am from Birobidzhan (EAO)
      4. S_mirnov
        -5
        27 August 2013 14: 30
        I liked the article, +. A very sane look at the situation in Russia and the world. Of course, the author’s view does not coincide with the information picture of the media surrounding reality, which explains the large number of minuscule. It will be difficult to switch to a critical perception of information flows. Moreover, it is presented in a very fragmented way - so that a person does not have an integral picture of the world.
        ShturmKGB
        Water in the Far East began to decline, oil prices could rise, and sharply

        Here it is a determining factor in the success of the Russian economy! look at the root! hi
        1. vaddag1
          +6
          27 August 2013 14: 50
          Dear S_mirnov, the situation in the country is not a fountain and never will be (we are adults - we see and evaluate the situation), but 3 questions:
          when was it better (but worse)?
          Is this a reason to lose dignity as a state?
          is it better to feel humiliated, but "full" or with a feeling of slight "hunger", but with your head held high?
          ps everyone makes his own choice
          1. S_mirnov
            +7
            27 August 2013 17: 03
            Quote: vaddag1
            when was it better (but worse)?

            It was better under the USSR. At least to the working people. And the nomenclature is better now!
            Quote: vaddag1
            Is this a reason to lose dignity as a state?

            Dignity - it was in the USSR, now we are more likely to have a good mine with a bad game! It is difficult to maintain dignity with poorly qualified and ineffective leadership of the country. Moreover, with the destroyed Soviet system of values, attempts to replace it with the ruling elite by a neoliberal one in the Russian Federation failed, except perhaps for religions - they bloom in a violent color and of different faiths ... (oh, I almost insulted the feelings of believers), here I’m closely watching Romanov wink .
            Quote: vaddag1
            is it better to feel humiliated, but "full" or with a feeling of slight "hunger", but with your head held high?

            As for me, with such a choice, so hungry and proud! Now many people feel relatively full, stable. In my opinion, this was achieved by selling minerals and eating up the remnants of the USSR (state reserve, strategic uranium reserves, etc.). Many bought on a used foreign car, apartment and cottage in private ownership (the Chubbays case lives sad ).
            Quote: vaddag1
            ps everyone makes his own choice

            This is a point, but we will rake the consequences together, who will remain in Russia, many top-level statesmen have already taken their children abroad.
            1. vaddag1
              +1
              27 August 2013 17: 42
              "It was better under the USSR" - the people as a whole, the problem is in the implementation of individual wishes. USSR - badly or well, you cannot answer unequivocally, ideally a compromise, but this does not happen to a campaign.

              "Dignity - it was in the USSR, now we have rather a good mine with a bad game" - undoubtedly, the USSR deserved it. Now it's the turn of the RF to deserve it, of which we are witnesses, the people have remained the same.

              "As for me, with such a choice, so hungry and proud!" - no comments +.

              "they have already taken their children abroad" - I consider it a plus, the nation is being cleansed.

              ps I don’t discuss the government, because it’s better not anyway.
              1. S_mirnov
                +3
                27 August 2013 18: 05
                Quote: vaddag1
                Now it’s the turn to deserve it from the Russian Federation, of which we are witnesses; the people have remained the same.

                The people are the same, but the leaders are very different! It is worth distinguishing between the leaders of the heyday of the USSR, the decline and modern leaders (after the collapse of the USSR and to this day).
                Quote: vaddag1
                have already taken their children abroad "- I think it's a plus, the nation is being cleansed.

                The price of cleansing is too expensive, children are taken out together with the money that was stolen from the country, and secondly, children abroad are a powerful lever of influence on our officials.
                Quote: vaddag1
                ps I don’t discuss the government, because it’s better not anyway.

                Because no! There is no feedback People-government! There is only a government-people!
            2. 0
              27 August 2013 23: 39
              Dignity - it was in the USSR, now we are more likely to have a good mine with a bad game! It is difficult to maintain dignity with poorly qualified and ineffective leadership of the country. Especially with the destroyed Soviet system
              Dear Alexander, that you are constantly you want their homeland. Doesn't Putin represent Russia with dignity? Or is it not the "low-skilled and ineffective leaders" of the USSR collapsed country? And it’s not so bad in Russia. The USSR was undoubtedly a great power, but "the one who does not regret the collapse of the USSR has no heart, and the one who thinks that it can be returned has no mind"said one smart man. You need to wipe the snot and move on.
      5. +4
        27 August 2013 19: 19
        Yes, knocking off Assad is not a big problem, bombing him with taste, and the "fighters for freedom and crap" will sort it out. Neither Russia nor China have anything in the region that they could oppose to democratizers, and there is no opportunity to transfer anything serious there either, and it should get involved in the war against NATO because of Assad? Iran, of course, can rock the boat, but it will rage and shut up.
        But what will happen the next morning after Assad is solemnly hanged to the cries of "Alla, I'm going to the bar!"? It seems that if you ask Kerry or even Barack Hussein Obama himself, there will be no intelligible answer. Duty phrases about freedom, crap, expression of will, and what else is politically correct there only for press conferences. But in fact, al-Qaedastan is formed there, and the stench will be on the whole region and beyond everywhere. What happens after the crap democratization of the Arab-Islamic countries has already been seen in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. But shit-mongers still itch. Well, when will they already understand that democracy is not an end in itself but a means, and, moreover, NOT universal? fool
        1. +2
          27 August 2013 20: 16
          What happens after the crappy democratization of the Arab-Islamic countries, have already seen enough in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. But the shit-democrats still get nasty. Well, when will they already understand that democracy is not an end in itself but a means, and moreover, NOT universal?
          Do you seriously think that "the most democratic country in the world" Concerned about the democratization of the world? laughing Well, why not at the same time demolish the monarchy of the Persian Gulf? They have clearly huge problems with democracy and human rights. Or are you at least somehow trying to whitewash your NEW MOTHERLAND, which in its essence is a terrorist state, an aggressor state, a world gendarme who beats everyone he doesn’t like with his club. What kind of democracy are you talking about - for the last 24 years the USA bombed and overthrew the SAMI regimes or under their leadership 7 states Just because they did not live as America wanted. Is it a democracy? wassat
        2. Gur
          0
          28 August 2013 07: 51
          I don’t know if this is your flag or glitch, only the amers think for some reason all the time for us and China, whether we have interests in this region or not. And increasingly, they decide that we do not have these interests, neither in Libya, nor in Iraq, nor in Syria, etc., around the world. And interestingly, the amers seem to have no interests in these countries, how they are trying to show us this more intensely, and this is only a matter of democracy and justice (even though there is oil)
          1. 0
            28 August 2013 21: 48
            Quote: GUR
            I don’t know if this is your flag or glitch

            My flag. Of course, I could hide in the element behind the red Soviet flag, just mark the business as "native of the USSR" in the settings, but I think it's dishonorable.
      6. +1
        27 August 2013 21: 26
        Wait and see.
    4. +7
      27 August 2013 12: 14
      Where is the hamster - is there a hamster ??? AAAAAA! I have paranoia ... wassat

      Guys, comrades - hamsters! Really, well enough already! Well, really, I'm tired of hearing your moans and nagging ... You either bring down where you think is good, or work and enjoy life in the country in which you were born!
      1. +16
        27 August 2013 12: 59
        Quote: LaGlobal
        You either bring down where you think is good, or work and enjoy life in the country in which you were born!

        And in truth eadolbali. The article is not even an opinion, but just a battering ram on our psyche. During the war, the Germans scattered leaflets with the text that began like this: "Rus surrender ....", very much like this article. Don't wait !!! am
        1. +1
          27 August 2013 13: 01
          Quote: Jura
          "Rus give up ....", very much like this article. Don't wait !!!


          - yeah ...
      2. +4
        27 August 2013 13: 52
        Yes, they will not knock anywhere from their "workplace"! It is here that their owners need them to bark, and there in fig?
    5. Shurik34RF
      +1
      27 August 2013 14: 54
      Where do they come from, such -analysts-
    6. +2
      27 August 2013 15: 44
      Article should be called "Arrived" request
    7. +2
      27 August 2013 15: 44
      It seems so ...
    8. artemiy
      +1
      27 August 2013 16: 12
      The article corresponds to the title "removal of the brain through the intestines of the mediterranean sea, and the anuses of the united states, turkey, england and hedgehogs with them"
      1. S_mirnov
        +5
        27 August 2013 17: 18
        Quote: artemiy
        The article corresponds to the title "removal of the brain through the intestines

        Calm down, you have a normal reaction! Just a brain drugged by the media, it tries to match reality with the previously introduced world perception matrix. Remember how in the movie "The Matrix" the hero Neo felt sick after coming out of the cocoon? Still the majority of Russian people are still in "cocoons", where they were wrapped up since the collapse of the USSR. Those who woke up are caught on Navalny, etc. typists (this is the second line of defense of the system). And those who do not believe not Navlny, not GDP, the system does not recognize as reality, and forcibly classifies them into one of the camps (either GDP or the State Department - there are no other options!). If you are in doubt for whom you are, contact Romanov, he will help you decide, a very prominent sorting specialist, with shoulder straps, certified! wink
    9. KOMPLEKT
      -2
      27 August 2013 19: 54
      An exemplary view of the situation of an Israeli citizen. Yes, not a glance, but a manual for describing the situation for "professional" bloggers.
      But there is one small nuance. This is practically the last but one step before sending Vovka Putkina along with his St. Petersburg codla in the footsteps of Saddam Hussein and it seems like it has already reached not only Vovoka, but also a significant part of his thieving encirclement.
      So, everything should be much more interesting, and not only in Syria, but we also all lead to the situation - "who is not with us is against us" (possibly Kerimov's convulsions from this opera-foreshadows the fate of Bilalov and) Amirov.
      I think and hope that a fortunate little girl will have to go to the forced feat and save Syria and its citizens.
      1. +2
        27 August 2013 21: 14
        Have you replaced prudence with shoulder straps? After all, it is Our children, our Future, who will pay with their lives for Assad, who did not even deign to declare martial law in his country, allows his capable citizens to flee "beyond the cordon", and our children should protect this figure ... "Wonderful your works, Lord! "
        1. +2
          27 August 2013 22: 18
          Yes, what prudence, dear? you read on neighboring topics that

          Quote: dmit-52
          Have you replaced prudence with shoulder straps? After all, it is Our children, our Future, who will pay with their lives for Assad, who did not even deign to declare martial law in his country, allows his capable citizens to flee "beyond the cordon", and our children should protect this figure ... "Wonderful your works, Lord! "


          Yes, what prudence, dear? you read what’s happening on neighboring topics. people have lost their minds so much that they are proposing to destroy the world. Do you think those who say here about sending troops there will go there themselves or send their children there?)))) they say build this Kremlin.
      2. +1
        27 August 2013 22: 29
        Quote: KOMPLEKT
        An exemplary look at the situation of an Israeli citizen.

        Quote: KOMPLEKT
        I think and hope that a fortunate little girl will have to go to the forced feat and save Syria and its citizens.


        Really, you shouldn’t troll so frankly. Forced exploits do not happen.
        The situation is oh so ambiguous - "In the Washington looking glass there is information that the chemical attack in Syria is a joint project of Israel and Saudi Arabia. This became known in circles close to the president. This provoked an angry reaction from President Obama, and now he feels ambushed by Netanyahu. Given the very specific relationship between Netanyahu and Obama, and Israel's constant attempts to force the US to "bomb Iran", one can understand the indignation of the US president. " - http://contrpost.com/ru/78-2013-05-10-13-45-19/3319-ot-skoree-net-chem-da-nazad-
        k-vryad-li
        So it is possible that a feat is not needed.
    10. +1
      27 August 2013 22: 54
      Do not judge strictly "messenger" (derived from the word "drives") Vlada Pecherinawassat, for the bad news ...
      he was not sent for vodka anyway ... laughing

      And now essentially:
      The author - on a journey! Erotic!
      Yes
    11. 0
      28 August 2013 00: 57
      Quote: kot11180
      until I read to the end, I thought Chubais wrote an article, or Navalny


      Author, article, respectively, nonsense. Something often here such opuses began to appear.
    12. +1
      28 August 2013 19: 52
      Quote: kot11180
      until I read to the end, I thought Chubais wrote an article, or Navalny

      The style is rat, the logic of a jackal, and the main idea is that the Yankees are invincible rulers of the world, hurry up to lick Uncle Sam's puffy striped, flogged ass, otherwise he will unleash his army of corpse-eaters, led by the shameful "peacemaker" and laureate Obamka.
      If the dog had a conscience, she would put on her pants, and if Obamysh had a conscience he would hang himself, the shameful jackal, the killer of women and children.
  2. Kipish
    +24
    27 August 2013 10: 14
    "that Russia is approaching a recession"
    You definitely are not confused with the USA?
    Russia does not live on credit, on the contrary it owes a lot.
    Article minus, turned the head over his head.

    Best regards
    1. Laserson
      +16
      27 August 2013 10: 20
      But in some ways the author is right - no one lends to us in such volumes as the United States. And no one will ever ask these debts from them, because in this case, the United States will collapse, and behind them the whole world tied to dollars.
      1. Kipish
        +4
        27 August 2013 10: 40
        "And no one will ever ask these debts from them"
        Sure?

        After all, if you look at it from a different angle:
        For example, the United States has pressed one of the largest creditor under the "best of all", he has some way out: to throw all the debts on the market, there is hardly a buyer for that amount, but they cannot buy themselves, because they have nothing but bucks.
        The result will collapse the dollar for the most indulge and take off almost the entire market, but it will hurt everyone, but then the United States will definitely not be up to this crydetor.

        With respect
      2. 0
        27 August 2013 11: 25
        Quote: Laserson
        And no one will ever ask these debts from them, because in this case, the United States will collapse, and behind them the whole world tied to dollars.

        Horror without end ...
      3. essenger
        +3
        27 August 2013 12: 28
        Quote: Laserson
        But in some ways the author is right - no one lends to us in such volumes as the United States. And no one will ever ask these debts from them, because in this case, the United States will collapse,

        US loans are long-term and 2% of GDP annually go to their services. Dreaming is not harmful of course, but you need to really look at the situation.
        1. +2
          27 August 2013 12: 36
          Quote: Essenger
          US loans are long-term and 2% of GDP annually go to their services.

          Do you think 2% of GDP is not enough?
          Debt service today eats up almost all of the growth.
          By the way ...
          By mid-October, the United States faces default on debt if the government does not vote to increase the federal limit. Also, in order not to harm the country's economy in the coming month, the White House and Congress will have to find a compromise on tax and budget policy.

          Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew warned the Speaker of the House of Representatives in a letter. According to the Minister’s calculations, the US government will exhaust the resources necessary for fulfilling financial obligations already this fall. He called on lawmakers to pass a bill to increase the ceiling of public debt by the deadline. The same recommendations are made by the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Otherwise, the US will face default on debt obligations.

          http://www.dni.ru/economy/2013/8/27/258819.html
      4. +5
        27 August 2013 12: 49
        Quote: Laserson
        But in some ways the author is right - no one lends to us in such volumes as the United States.

        Why do you need loans to Russia, can you explain to me?
        Quote: Laserson
        And no one will ever ask these debts from them, because in this case, the United States will collapse, and behind them the whole world tied to dollars.

        Regardless of whether they are asked to debts from them or not the United States will collapse, it will be enough that countries and people will stop changing their currencies to dollars. The process is already underway, and military operations against Syria, again, regardless of in whose favor the result will be, will only accelerate it.
      5. +3
        27 August 2013 21: 29
        So what? Well, the dollar will collapse, are we with you, what, do we eat dollars? No, with our daily bread bought for our rubles. Was the Kingdom of Egypt, rich, mighty, was the Great Rome, rich, mighty - saved their wealth from destruction? And the other Assyrians, the great ports, have all sunk into history (which teaches geography). And our long-suffering Russia more than once had to be reborn from the ashes and Troubles. And Great Russia will live as long as the Russian Spirit is alive, which our sworn "friends" are trying to replace with Mamon.
    2. S_mirnov
      +3
      27 August 2013 18: 12
      Quote: Kipish
      "that Russia is approaching a recession"
      You definitely are not confused with the USA?

      No, the author does not confuse, there is simply a direct indication of the GDP not to mention the recession and even its possibility, in the media!
      Otherwise, the rise in oil and gas prices will quickly change the situation!
      1. 0
        27 August 2013 22: 00
        S_mirnov (3) SU Today, 18:12 PM ↑

        Quote: Kipish
        "that Russia is approaching a recession"
        You definitely are not confused with the USA?

        No, the author does not confuse, there is simply a direct indication of the GDP not to mention the recession and even its possibility, in the media!
        Who told you this? wink Is it really a secret? smile
        1. S_mirnov
          +1
          27 August 2013 22: 25
          Word of mouth of course! On the government website, you can not look for this decree! wink
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  4. Guun
    +7
    27 August 2013 10: 19
    I will write one thing - time will tell, and then we will resent or rejoice.
    1. +3
      27 August 2013 11: 35
      Quote: Guun
      I will write one thing - time will tell, and then we will resent or rejoice.

      Exactly. If the West unleashes aggression against Syria, the World will come to a bifurcation point and then everything is possible ... any forecast, even the most improbable, can come true. It is impossible to calculate everything with a 100% probability, there are too many factors influencing events IMHO ...
  5. series
    +8
    27 August 2013 10: 20
    The hand of Mossad is felt ... driving this greyhound! negative
    1. -1
      27 August 2013 23: 12
      S-200 (2) SU Today, 10:20 AM

      The hand of Mossad is felt ... driving this greyhound!
      5 +++ This is where the "wind blows" bully
  6. 128mgb
    +14
    27 August 2013 10: 21
    Quote: kot11180
    until I read to the end, I thought Chubais wrote an article, or Navalny

    And the style reminds me more of Syria’s neighbors.
    1. Kipish
      +8
      27 August 2013 10: 42
      Yeah, I also immediately thought about the Jews)
      1. +3
        27 August 2013 12: 19
        Quote: Kipish
        Yeah, I also immediately thought about the Jews)

        Well, like: "But who needs it besides Assad? It is not beneficial to anyone. And Iran will find another reason to growl at Israel ..." They wrote a hundred poods.
      2. netvosode
        -4
        27 August 2013 12: 19
        you are amazed at the level of most of the comments, grade 3-4 of a secondary school, advice of "cosmic scale and cosmic stupidity" ...
        a sober and pragmatic article, on the whole, reflects the real state of affairs ... no matter how sad it may be for us ... nothing is real yet to this provocation and the aggression following it, neither the RF, nor the PRC, let alone the IRI, are unable to oppose , and none of its allies will aggravate the situation in the world because of the SAR to some kind of "red" line, there is no pragmatic point in shaking the boat now, neither for us, nor for them (NATO), so that Syria will be sacrificed cynically and shamelessly, sorry for people ...
        1. +4
          27 August 2013 13: 01
          Quote: netvosode
          you are amazed at the level of most of the comments, grade 3-4 of a secondary school, advice of "cosmic scale and cosmic stupidity" ...
          a sober and pragmatic article, in general, reflects the real state of things ... however sad it may be ...

          Yes, if everyone always thought so “wisely” and “pragmatically” like you, then Russia would now be no bigger than Luxembourg, if it ever existed. So "graduate student", think good.
        2. Veles25
          -2
          27 August 2013 14: 15
          people live in fantasy
          1. -1
            27 August 2013 21: 39
            It is true, "people live in fantasy", people live in fantasy, and this "fantasy", which you used at best in an ironic sense, helped people build our civilization with you, in which they reached the bottom of the Mariana Trench, ascended into space, curbed atomic energy, etc. ..
  7. +14
    27 August 2013 10: 21
    The article is a bold minus. Many have tried to live by the principle: "my house is on the edge." But not everyone succeeded.
    1. Cpa
      -1
      27 August 2013 16: 19
      In a Russian fairy tale, the author of these words choked with kissel!
  8. serge-68-68
    -2
    27 August 2013 10: 21
    In general, everything is correct. You can fantasize as much as you like about Russian weapons, Iranian soldiers and other ideas from the books in the "Combat Science Fiction" section. Lavrov's statement about Russia's unwillingness to fight for Syria only confirms our bluff (which is already known to everyone). And the unwillingness of the United States to talk with the Russian Federation about the situation with the use of weapons shows our real place in world politics. Russia does not have effective tools to influence the situation. If the USA wants to click on the forehead of the leader of a third-rate country, they will. And no one, and nothing is not a decree to them.
    If someone at Assad really launched combat weapons in a situation of balancing victory and defeat, then the Syrian leadership deserves to be "demolished".
    1. Laserson
      +13
      27 August 2013 10: 26
      The maximum we can do is veto resolutions at the UN. Even the contract for the S-300 for Syria, and he was very reprimanded. I do not understand these empty air shakes about the support of Syria by Russia, but at least they could have harnessed themselves to Tartus
      1. -1
        27 August 2013 12: 57
        Quote: Laserson
        Even the contract for C-300 for Syria, and he was reprimanded

        Put off, you wanted to say? It seems to me that it would be stupid to conduct them now with your specialists for staff training. It’s easier to take the Syrians to study with you, and only then, in March, to transport everything on a warship there. How do you like it? And then - what will happen. request
    2. serge-68-68
      -4
      27 August 2013 13: 40
      I’ll add the latest news: the size of the click on the nose is determined: a couple of days of missile attacks (sort of like aboard a naval group of up to 300 Tomahawks ...)
    3. nbw
      nbw
      0
      27 August 2013 19: 44
      If someone at Assad really launched combat weapons in a situation of balancing victory and defeat, then the Syrian leadership deserves to be "demolished".


      You are either stupid, dumb, or pro-American liberal (yes, I stick a label). Fu to be like that.
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  10. Kadet_KRAK
    +24
    27 August 2013 10: 22
    The author in a way considers himself smarter than ASADA. I agree to be smarter at the keyboard easier and simpler - you don’t have to answer for the fate of the state.
    1. Luger
      +6
      27 August 2013 11: 18
      I agree with you 100%! as it is sung in one song: "We are all heroes in films about the war," or, in short, in Russian, do not roll bags. In general, the author somehow, in my opinion, slashed off the shoulder accusing Assad not of foresight and narrow-mindedness. Author! you are not in the place of Assad, of course it is easy for you to argue, I would have looked at how you reasoned when, for two years now, they not only WANT to kill, but also DO it very actively. And now, in general, Assad probably has an understanding that he has not long left to live in this world, honestly ... scary
  11. Laserson
    +7
    27 August 2013 10: 23
    For me, the darkest version is described here. China, too, must understand that its power is like a bone in the throat of a certain group of countries. Yes, now they are trading partners, and what will happen tomorrow - no one will say. Moreover, production has slowly begun to be withdrawn from China back to the producing countries. The attack on Iran is a direct threat to the growth of China, which imports oil from there. Oh, how they will respond to this - no one will say ...
  12. +18
    27 August 2013 10: 24
    Russia is one of the ten US lenders.

    ...no longer!

    In fact, America and their president need to understand that when giving an order to their troops, they press that very red button ("red mushroom"), which automatically launches unstoppable processes against themselves ...
    Translating into understandable language, as the knowledgeable say - in response to the US attack, the Russians will introduce a "Special Period" with all their forces on full alert, with all the ensuing consequences ...

    There will be no return!
    Putin will not give up ...

    quote:
    “The US plan, in this case, is still to put pressure on Russia, but since there are no other levers, then the possibility of exerting indirect pressure through the events in Syria, into which Putin has grabbed a stranglehold, is being considered. in Syria, with an eye on Russia, now they are going to bomb, but they are still waiting for a signal from Russia. What kind of signal could it be? Obama wants Putin's more dependence and, in fact, is blackmailing Putin with military actions in Syria. It is strange that no one from Obama's entourage tells him that You can’t blackmail Putin. Remember Nordost and Beslan, those people also blackmailed Putin, is there at least one of them alive? Putin simply cannot retreat in front of the whole world. So, wait for surprises, this guy has a fair amount of them."
    отсюда - http://contrpost.com/en/78-2013-05-10-13-45-19/3318-rezkoe-obostrenie-v-sirii
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      0
      27 August 2013 12: 36
      Give GOD if this is so !!!
  13. +31
    27 August 2013 10: 24
    Some points of the article are correct, but its main abomination is decadence and hopelessness, they say, sit and do not blather. Soft power she is.
    1. Laserson
      +7
      27 August 2013 10: 27
      And what real leverage do we have at the moment?
      1. +3
        27 August 2013 10: 59
        Quote: Laserson
        And what real leverage do we have at the moment?

        I repeat again:
        Quote: Vladimirets
        its main abomination is decadence and hopelessness

        Despondency is generally a sin, hatred, of course, is not much better. But hiding under the bed and smearing snot on the cheeks is not an option at all. We can’t fight directly with the West, although we would like to draw us into the war for many of the bumps over the hill. I see Assad’s arms deliveries as the most effective means, and nobody canceled the political struggle.
        1. berimor
          +7
          27 August 2013 11: 58
          Unfortunately, it’s too late to drink the barge, when the kidneys have refused. Even if Russia finally decides to put the S-300 in the FULL volume necessary to repel an air strike, then there is no time. And knowing the mess that is happening now in Syria, is the creation of a new modern air defense system of the country under great?.
          1. FATEMOGAN
            0
            27 August 2013 12: 56
            Quote: berimor
            Unfortunately, it’s too late to drink the barge, when the kidneys have refused. Even if Russia finally decides to put the S-300 in the FULL volume necessary to repel an air strike, then there is no time


            And where is such confidence that the C300 does not live in Syria, let’s say, I haven’t met with unambiguous answers to this question. Both from Putin and Assad’s sides, only streamlined formulations were heard, which can be interpreted differently, and Russia set the s-300 or not, it can definitely be said only after the outbreak of hostilities.
          2. +3
            27 August 2013 13: 02
            Quote: berimor
            Even if Russia finally decides to put the S-300 in the FULL volume necessary to repel an air strike, then there is no time

            Why did everyone cling to this S-300? Is there no other weapon? Assad and small arms, and ammunition and much more is needed. The S-300 is not a panacea, a pair of divisions will not decide anything, in the end they will be finished off with tomahawks in any version. Too much power against Syria. But to fight, even after suppressing the infrastructure from the air, it will still be necessary and most importantly, so that is what.
          3. 0
            27 August 2013 23: 04
            Unfortunately, it’s too late to drink the barge, when the kidneys have refused. Even if Russia finally decides to put the S-300 in the FULL volume necessary to repel an air strike, then there is no time.
            Syria would have collapsed long ago on its own, without the help of Russia, China and Iran, and why should it collapse after the US air strikes? And who can say what is and what is not from weapons in Syria? No need to panic, "the kidneys have not failed." And I am sure that it is too early to put an end to Syria.
      2. +3
        27 August 2013 14: 00
        Under the USSR, too many wars were unleashed, but there was enough leverage that the war would not seem like a walk to the States.
    2. +6
      27 August 2013 10: 41
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Soft power she is.


      The soft power of the soft wrist has been destroying the world for many years.
      I think that this time someone should be at a high level, not Lavrov, perhaps Putin himself should go out and publicly say, Mr. Obama, you are a liar.
      And then list all those lies of the USA, starting with the Tonkinsky incident angry
    3. 0
      27 August 2013 22: 17
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Soft power she is.

      A member is ... but soft.
  14. -1
    27 August 2013 10: 28
    And you are a writer, not a chance by chance ??? !!!
  15. Valery Neonov
    +2
    27 August 2013 10: 34
    Oh, well, just like in the "geopolitical mosaic" Implications for the UK and France- the consequences are the same - the war on the territory of the above-mentioned state-TV. Oh understand, but it will be too late ... hi
  16. niksup
    +1
    27 August 2013 10: 34
    Soon everything will become clear who will react. And I hope that the Kremlin will not stand aside
  17. +8
    27 August 2013 10: 36
    What kind of miscarriage is the State Department-Vlad Pecherin? Where did this luminary of analysts crawl out of? I wonder how much these trolls are paid now? As usual thirty?
  18. -2
    27 August 2013 10: 36
    If the Kremlin does not intervene, then Vova is waiting for Gaddafi’s fate ......
    1. +5
      27 August 2013 14: 03
      Compare x with a finger. We have nuclear weapons
  19. 0
    27 August 2013 10: 37
    oh these kitchen analysts to me ... as always smarter than everyone
  20. +14
    27 August 2013 10: 37
    The fact of the matter is that we all love the Motherland and remember the great heritage of the USSR, even if the author is a zealot, liberal, Mosadist, but with gritting teeth one has to objectively admit his arguments are true in the current situation, and our country is tied, with Western countries, economically and politically, our elite has not been ours for a long time, and for the sake of Syria they will not risk their children studying there, the real estate they bought is not the only one million .... Until the authorities in our country really protect national interests, such articles are gloomy, hopeless will have reason to correspond to the reality of the current day ...
    The revival of our fleet and army will give us the right to an independent foreign policy, it remains only to find political will ..
    1. vaddag1
      +3
      27 August 2013 15: 31
      "objectively recognize his arguments as correct in the current situation" - damn it! yes, everything is correct, BUT history says that we can do anything, when it seems that already everything.
      the third month of the Second World War - agricultural. and the industrial part of the country is lost, the regular army died or is fighting in the encirclement, according to the logic, nothing could save us - the result, Germany is just part of Europe, and we live in a big country.
      "and for the sake of Syria they will not risk" - yes, we would not physically stick for Syria, even if the USSR remained - not our method, we have no legal or moral obligations for this.
      1. +2
        27 August 2013 18: 20
        Under the Soviet Union, the United States would never have dared to threaten Syria, the USSR Foreign Ministry would have quickly explained everything to the US Ambassador in words, And for clarity, our operational group of the Navy actually demonstrated "friendly" intentions, In the Great Patriotic War it is impossible to compare, then the leadership in the country had a truly iron will and decisiveness to bring the matter to the end, our today's pygmies themselves do not know where our galley is sailing ...
  21. Valery Neonov
    +2
    27 August 2013 10: 39
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Soft power she is.

    So after all, concrete is still interfering, liquid and ugly, and after it hardens ...
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  23. 0
    27 August 2013 10: 42
    straight mood lifted. Vlad please write more!
  24. +13
    27 August 2013 10: 46
    Quote: Laserson
    And what real leverage do we have at the moment?


    To declare to the whole world about the resumption of nuclear tests. While - on its territory (as France once did under the howl of the world community). Firstly, such a cunning trick with the ears will divert attention from Syria, and will unequivocally make it clear that if Russia has not shown "Kuzkin's mother" to the world for a long time, this does not mean at all that it does not exist and the threat of "foot fungus" is just a myth. ...
    Secondly, it will make you think for what it was done for, what a hint, and to whom.
    We don’t need to be afraid in this place - scared. The North Korean leader scared half the world with a promise to put rockets on the launch pad. And nothing: alive and well, which he also wants.
    Next - to assemble the Russian squadron more powerful and send to Tartus. Not to fight, but to be present. We have the right, exactly the same as the Yankees, and French, and Saxons.
    We will not attack them first, but we will not allow ourselves to be squeezed out either. An additional argument - if anything - blame yourself, not we were the first to start it. There are no fools there either, and they should understand that in the event of a threat to Russian warships (even if our fleet in that region will actually be weaker), a nuclear fungus can grow anywhere.
    The answer to the frequently asked question here: "Do we need to quarrel with other influential countries over Syria?" I would advise you to look for the other side - a participant in the conflict. Namely - to countries, two thirds of the population of which are against a new war in the region.
    The main thing is political will. If we do not show it now, tomorrow friends will turn our backs on us, the enemies will continue to wipe our feet, and our own population will be disappointed in the ability of the authorities to really influence something, and not just puff out their cheeks.
    1. +7
      27 August 2013 12: 34
      Quote: Stiletto
      The answer to the frequently asked question here: "Do we need to quarrel with other influential countries over Syria?"

      Yes, it’s not Syria’s business, but INTERNATIONAL LAW, THE MAIN THING, you must defend it ... It’s not only Syria’s right, it’s the right of everyone! By any means, even if you have to go to the edge of the line ... and cross it!
      Quote: Stiletto
      The main thing is political will. If we do not show it now, tomorrow friends will turn our backs on us, the enemies will continue to wipe our feet, and our own population will be disappointed in the ability of the authorities to really influence something, and not just puff out their cheeks.

      These are just the flowers of the consequences ...
      "Find a scythe on a stone"?
  25. +4
    27 August 2013 10: 47
    The article is somehow anti-Russian, inclines to a negative mood. You can’t live like that, author. Where is the positive? Even thoughts come that this is the order of the opposition.
  26. +8
    27 August 2013 10: 54
    In general, the author is right. But only from one point of view. And there are a lot of them. And how it will come out until no one knows. Forecasts are so called because they do not have 100% probability. However, if it breaks out in Syria, something on this planet will change ...
  27. +7
    27 August 2013 10: 56
    Americans can win, but the price of this victory can greatly dislike them.
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 14: 06
      Maybe they will win, but it will be their last war
  28. +27
    27 August 2013 10: 57
    Quote: Kipish
    Article minus, turned the head over his head.


    Where the "legs" of this article grow from is clear from this quote: "In Beslan, the color of the Alpha group was knocked out in ten minutes ..." The author could not have known that Alfovians. contrary to all Statutes, they climbed under bullets, pulling out children and pushing off distraught parents. At the very least, such a statement is blasphemy!

    As for the author's confidence in America's impunity and omnipotence, he forgets one thing: sooner or later, America and Russia will face a nuclear conflict. It is inevitable, like the sunrise. I'm just sure that if we "surrender" Assad, then literally this year a blow will be struck at us. Now the "dress rehearsal" is planned. The same was the case with Hitler. Impunity - inspires crazy deeds.

    What to do. Aside from all the talk about the Olympics and championships: we are talking about the survival of Russia! Immediately enter the "Military Danger" level of combat readiness in the troops. To push our nuclear submarines into the areas of concentration of American aircraft carrier groups, etc. In the next few hours, "convince" Assad of the need to bring a limited Russian contingent into Syria.

    If we do not, then tomorrow the NATO will be in Central Asia and Ukraine. We will not be able to rest and rest. And the people, I think, will understand. Not everyone wants to live (as an author) under the NATO occupation.
    1. +3
      27 August 2013 11: 16
      Quote: nokki
      e. In the next few hours, "convince" Assad of the need to send a limited Russian contingent to Syria.

      It would probably be wise to transfer powers to store chemical weapons to Russia. It is necessary to climb into the war itself, but purely control.
    2. +2
      27 August 2013 11: 48
      Quote: nokki
      We will not be able to rest and rest.
      Yes, this is the cruel truth. Let's save with Syria, tomorrow there will be Iran, and the Yankees in the Caspian. I do not want war, but "appeasement" of the aggressor and the call "not to succumb to provocations" only strengthened Hitler's appetites at one time. The "Syrian crisis" will decide what comes next, a country we are forced to reckon with, or a "colossus with feet of clay," which tomorrow these feet will want to crush.
    3. +7
      27 August 2013 15: 23
      Quote: nokki
      Where the "legs" of this article grow from, it is clear from the following quote: "In Beslan, the color of the Alpha group was knocked out in ten minutes ..." The author could not help but know that they were Alpha members. contrary to all the Charters, they climbed under the bullets, pulling out the children and pushing back the distraught parents. At the very least, such a statement is blasphemy!

      I completely agree with you! In fact, all of the 10 Heroes who died died protecting their Comrades, or closing (saving) hostages. Before that, over 30 years of existence, 19 Soldiers died. And in general, in Beslan, they faced a new level of terror! More than 1000 visitors, more than 800 children. "... the color of the group was KNOCKED out ..." - you can't write like that. Article-Minus. And you, nokki-Plus.
    4. Jin
      +8
      27 August 2013 16: 09
      Quote: nokki
      Where the "legs" of this article grow from is clear from this quote: "In Beslan, the color of the Alpha group was knocked out in ten minutes ..."


      It freaked out too! They were shot at their backs when they covered children with themselves, carrying them out from under the dagger fire on their hands ... the author wrote that he had plunged into a puddle (((
    5. bilgesez
      +1
      27 August 2013 23: 07
      Only Putin will not do that.
  29. 0
    27 August 2013 10: 58
    I will hope that "you" are wrong comrade author.
  30. Batkamahno
    +3
    27 August 2013 10: 59
    All is correct. To argue with America, if she decided to fight, no one will. If you hit a horn, then stopping them will be problematic. The idea is different. Do you need this? Do the Americans themselves need this? The case of Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan is clear. There you could make good profit. Freeze accounts in Europe. Collect cream For which it was possible to organize the pumping of raw materials. Syria on time transferred all foreign accounts to weapons. It is no accident that Russia is already selling to Syria on credit. THERE IS NOTHING TO TAKE THERE. It's my opinion. Well, or at least not very much good there)))) Therefore, a heroic victory over Assad .... Even if an ambulance. this is not the same jackpot as in Libya. It’s at least, but at the very least, something can get it down. Plus an example for the next in line Iran and so on. Keep money in your own Army, not in Bank of America. Yes, and capture in Syria in the sense of oil production -Nothing. what is, you can pre-explode. Conclusion. war-ravaged country-capitally ravaged. crowds of hungry people who at least need to be fed. AND NO MONEY
  31. +6
    27 August 2013 11: 00
    Quote: kot11180
    until I read to the end, I thought Chubais wrote an article, or Navalny


    That is how the Anglo-Saxon planners reason. Like, swallow everything, rub ourselves and forget. This is their calculation.
  32. +6
    27 August 2013 11: 03
    Kneading in Syria can turn out to be very steep. It will reach everyone and Syria and Israel and Iran and Turkey with the Saudis.
    the author has uncovered the Kurdish question, as well as options for possible sabotage in the countries that took part in the aggression.
    Yes, and something Vietnam and Afghanistan remembered, why would it?
  33. +10
    27 August 2013 11: 04
    Gentlemen!
    The article was blamed out of the banal rejection of factual material. The above arguments directly indicate the reasons Why States Can start a war and they (arguments) are justified from the point of view of the same States and their allies.

    BUT!

    Politics is a war of nerves.

    The States have little desire to emulate Iraq. Despite the "victory", Iraq is a big blow to the "face".

    States will be able to crush Assad, but this will not add political weight to them and will strengthen their positions, if not Russia, then China, and even both countries together.

    The UN, no matter how "prishblin", remains an international organization, and if it is dispersed, as the Turks suggest, then it makes no sense to talk about the coexistence of states. The planet will be divided into Lord and vassals. This does not "warm" anyone. Following will be Mr. Obama's Nobel Peace Prize. another institution of democracy will collapse.

    We can only wait and hope that the ruling elites will be smart enough not to "push the trigger." Otherwise, not only Russia will have to “wash”.

    PS Just announced on the radio that Obama will not start a war for at least two more days (looking for a reliable justification).
    1. +8
      27 August 2013 11: 14
      Personally, I "minus" the article only for hitting the "Alpha" group. Well, or rather, not only for this, but for the fat minus, and this alone is enough.
      1. +8
        27 August 2013 15: 20
        Quote: Stiletto
        Personally, I "minus" the article only for hitting the "Alpha" group.

        I agree. For such a disdainful attitude towards those who died saving children. To compare their feat and death with how the French "specialists" were threatened is complete nonsense. For this it is not necessary to minus, but to tear off the "bells" by the roots.
        And about the fact that Russia is already dictating their terms of cooperation, the author clearly got excited.
  34. +2
    27 August 2013 11: 06
    Why not deploy missiles with nuclear weapons in Syria (under an agreement)? and only then - bargain with the Indians.

    (Khrushchev, at one time, bargained to remove rockets from Turkey near the Indians.)
  35. SvetoRus
    +5
    27 August 2013 11: 06
    Confidence of the author, in the inviolability of the United States causes a smile. laughing
  36. +4
    27 August 2013 11: 08
    The author is, of course, right in some ways, but you need to understand that by "throwing" Syria, Russia will lose the remnants of international prestige as a Great Power and no one else will reckon with us, why do you need such a partner who surrenders its partners over and over again, yes I understand that we don’t owe anything to Syria, as well as Libya, which he gave to the Americans to be devoured by Medvedev, but then it was necessary to immediately take a pro-American position or withdraw from the conflict altogether, they say, do whatever you want, we don’t care. And so some half-measures, but no nothing worse than half-measures. And if now the turmoil begins in Syria and Russia meekly steps aside again, the entire international authority of our country will evaporate like morning fog. For Putin with his mediocre domestic policy and a bunch of problems, it will be a big blow, because. he comes up exclusively on foreign policy.
  37. +1
    27 August 2013 11: 09
    The US position on Syria is understandable: with this hype, they are trying to divert attention from the most terrible continuation of the "Snowden novel" - namely, from the information bomb, the roll of which cannot be underestimated - the scandal of total control and wiretapping by the UN. And this, I tell you, is not a pound of raisins, this is a serious crime. This is the kind of investigation that urgently needs to be initiated, not the use of chemical weapons.

    Russia urgently needs to put two issues on the agenda:

    1. US crime against UN member states;
    2. to issue a vote of no confidence directly to the UN, as a puppet organization corrupted with the United States. For - what conclusions can the so-called "UN experts in Syria" draw, under the hood of the US special services?
    1. +1
      27 August 2013 23: 50
      Stiletto RU Today, 11:09 AM

      The US position on Syria is understandable: with this hype, they are trying to divert attention from the most terrible continuation of the "Snowden novel" - namely, from the information bomb, the roll of which cannot be underestimated - the scandal of total control and wiretapping by the UN. And this, I tell you, is not a pound of raisins, this is a serious crime. This is the kind of investigation that urgently needs to be initiated, not the use of chemical weapons.

      Russia urgently needs to put two issues on the agenda:

      1. US crime against UN member states;
      2. to issue a vote of no confidence directly to the UN, as a puppet organization corrupted with the United States. For - what conclusions can the so-called "UN experts in Syria" draw, under the hood of the US special services?
      Soglassen.Rossii do not need to fight, but more in the diplomatic field to work and use "soft power". The UN exists to state its position to the whole world, and more often "show the true face of American democracy"
  38. +2
    27 August 2013 11: 10
    Quote: dimon-media
    The article is somehow anti-Russian, inclines to a negative mood. You can’t live like that, author. Where is the positive? Even thoughts come that this is the order of the opposition.


    We just began to understand that our liberals, the pseudo elite imposed on us, are part of the world liberal "lads". In Russia, they repeated in miniature the scenario of what the Anglo-Saxon Liberators created on the entire planet. And now this liberal bandit does not at all intend to hide behind any decency even for the sake of appearance. He looks all over the world and says as the author of this article: you all shave. The question of questions is who will have the courage to stop the unbelted liberal homosexuals? Everyone is looking at Russia, there is no one else ...
    1. +3
      27 August 2013 11: 17
      Quote: Ross
      We just began to understand that our liberals, the pseudo elite imposed on us, are part of the world liberal "lads".

      ... In the case of the introduction of "VP" in Russia, the 5th column will immediately go where it should be ... At best, to felling, at worst - to clear the minefields of tolerant dermocrats-libroids with their bodies. At least the slightest sense will be ...

      Here about the possible consequences for the world after the Amer attack of Syria - http://oko-planet.su/politik/politiklist/207300-posledstviya-napadeniya-ssha-na-
      siriyu.html

      The world will become different: "He who has the power will be right ..."
    2. berimor
      +2
      27 August 2013 12: 10
      But Russia has nothing to answer so far. There are no former forces, unfortunately !!!
  39. +17
    27 August 2013 11: 10
    I read the article, and it seems that the author is a big fan of analysts and experts from Business FM. But seriously, judging from the standpoint of today and not looking at tomorrow, the author is partially right. But that is precisely the point that they are looking somewhat ahead. And ahead of the next - the United States is pursuing a consistent policy of squeezing out China from everywhere, from where it can be - from Africa, from Asia. This process has become too obvious to ignore; Syria is a very important stage in this policy. The Chinese will certainly not fight, but to claim that they will ignore is a very bold assumption. They will take measures, even if not obvious to us (ordinary viewers). Assad behaves just very wisely, because he understands that no negotiations will be held with him in the current state, and if they do, then after he leaves and surrenders his position, it will end at best with the Hague Tribunal for crimes against humanity. Moreover, no one from the West will stop the massacre of the Alawites if he leaves and surrenders the state. None of the Gulf countries needs a strong Syria - for the sake of its destruction (or weakening) of the Gulf monarchy, they supported this idea. Turkey wants to become a leader in the Middle East, as Saudi Arabia and Qatar want it, and they simply consistently eliminate their competitors. The behavior of Iran is too difficult to predict, they are well aware that Israel is not at all satisfied with the existence of Iran in the form that it is now, and therefore they will not rest until they have enough nuclear weapons. I think if they see that there will be chances to keep Syria, and the Russian Federation will be able to at least somehow politically fend off pressure on Assad - they will certainly intervene and will help. The Strait of Hormuz is an extreme measure, but it can also be used if necessary. Russia - this is where a clear, consistent and absolutely competent position is evident - upholding its interests, norms of observance of international law and at the same time full military support for the only ally in the region. The containment of Wahhabism is far from an exaggeration of the threat, however much the author may think, this is a very real and serious problem, which, thank God, the leadership understands perfectly. But the author is mistaken in making the wrong conclusions when comparing the fighting efficiency of the groups in Dagestan and Syria - the format is completely different, but it’s on his conscience. Passages about the economy and the extent of the military company's influence on Europe and the USA - this is again on the conscience of the author - he conducted a serious study of the impact of wars on the economies of these countries. I will point out only one factor - in 3 months after the start of the bombing of Libya in France and Britain, all stocks of precision weapons were over and they were forced to buy new ones from the United States and bomb them with conventional bombs. If the author does not know, then the Russian Federation began to withdraw money from US securities, China began to do the same a few years ago. Unfortunately, I have no information about Japan. At the same time, the US economy is currently successfully operating solely due to the policy of quantitative easing (or simply speaking the printing press), and some rumors about curtailing it cause a wild panic in the economy.

    Summarizing, I can say the following - if this article were not written in such a defiant tone - it would be possible to consider this as the opinion of the reader of the forum, but since the intonations are clearly strained, then I'm sorry - I put a minus ...
  40. +4
    27 August 2013 11: 11
    No matter how I like it, it’s probably the bitter truth. Realist article. And the desire to wishful thinking of reality is a weak trait for the military.
    1. +4
      27 August 2013 12: 42
      Quote: brace
      Realist article

      An article by a pessimist who does not take into account many important factors
      1. +1
        27 August 2013 13: 23
        God grant that this pessimistic view will not be justified. Tired of watching the procession: Yugoslavia, Iraq, ... Syria? When will they choke?
  41. vitek1233
    +1
    27 August 2013 11: 14
    It is necessary to threaten that the supply of modern air defense systems to Iran will become a reality. And not only that, but also other non-defensive systems
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 13: 29
      Yes, judging by the article:
      Short:
      Russia has completed deliveries of Tor-M1 complexes to Iran
      Read more: http://www.arms-expo.ru/049051124050056048.html
  42. shitovmg
    +6
    27 August 2013 11: 19
    Anyway, if we discard the noise, husk and emotions, with a mess, it will
  43. +1
    27 August 2013 11: 37
    Kind! Dear Author, what article did you write under? Are you the almighty who made heroes here? Americans?
    Quote: brace
    No matter how I like it, it’s probably the bitter truth. Realist article. And the desire to wishful thinking of reality is a weak trait for the military.

    An article by a pessimist from the Russian Federation or an optimist from us! Smoothly spread yes it will be hard to sleep!
  44. optimist
    +2
    27 August 2013 11: 43
    And what is it so all together pounced on the author of the article? The guy described everything correctly. Of course, somewhat rude and cynical, but true! The old Russian saying "Your shirt is closer to the body" has not yet been canceled. For at least the last 100 years, the Amers have been doing what they want with the world, and they always succeed. I will not say anything about other countries, but I am 1000% sure that in the event of an amerovskoy strike on Syria, Russia will slightly flutter its tongue, and then shove it into itself .... But we will not arrange a tote here: time will put everything in its place. In this situation, we only have the role of the audience. And from the fact that we will viciously spit in the comments in the American creatures, they will not care. Victory can only be achieved by advancing: this is the IRON LAW OF WAR! Russia (at least for the last 25 years) is only losing ground. And until we ourselves cease to console ourselves with the mythical display of "Kuz'ka's mother" to the whole world, nothing will change.
    1. +4
      27 August 2013 12: 39
      Quote: optimist
      You can only win by stepping on: this is the IRON LAW OF WAR!

      This is just what the article does not observe. The aspirations not only to win, but even to resist ... It seems like it was written in the 90s. And since then nothing in the world has changed. In the 90s, the war in Syria would have ended long ago , and in Iran too ... So what no, but there is progress.
      And there’s nothing to say about the author’s tenderness with US idols - it seems like he pulled a SWAMP ... And the dollar is strong as a flint ... In a word, they wrote to the whole world from a high mountain and this will continue forever ...
      1. optimist
        -2
        27 August 2013 13: 07
        Quote: alex13-61
        This is just what the article does not observe.

        And why should this be observed in this article? The author just REALLY DESCRIBES THE SITUATION and NAMES THINGS BY OWN NAMES. He does not call for grabbing the rope and soap and looking for the nearest crossbar. Just the majority of Russians (and forum users on this site) do not want to face the truth. And the truth is that 25 years ago we lost the war to the Amers and their allies. And since then, practically ALL the decisions of the leadership of our country are aimed at weakening and destroying the Russian people. And the current leadership of the country will NEVER make a real and open confrontation with its overseas curator. And if 25 years ago it was possible to fill up the USSR, then today's Russia is like two fingers on asphalt. And you don’t even need to fight, to drop the price of hydrocarbons .... And all this warlike rhetoric of the authorities, is a simple air shock. I understand that everyone (including me) wants to be positive, but you need to look at things a little realistically.
        1. +2
          27 August 2013 13: 45
          Quote: optimist
          And why should this be observed in this article?

          Well, it’s like an article for that and an article to make a comprehensive analysis, but on the one hand - this is propaganda already called, as they say, feel the difference.
          And if this propaganda has spoiled your mood, then she has done her job.
          Quote: optimist
          And since then, practically ALL the decisions of the leadership of our country are aimed at weakening and destroying the Russian people.

          Why then, until now, Russia has not been divided into specific principalities and there are more than 15 million of us all together, because as you know, this is the figure that was assigned by Western puppeteers to the entire population of Russia.
          Comment right away if it’s not difficult for you to gain territorial acquisitions during the Georgian war, major construction projects throughout the country, an undoubted improvement in the conditions of existence, and recent major maneuvers of the RA.
          1. optimist
            0
            27 August 2013 14: 09
            Quote: Onotolle
            Why then, until now, Russia has not been divided into specific principalities and there are more than 15 million of us all together, because as you know, this is the figure that was assigned by Western puppeteers to the entire population of Russia. Comment right away if it’s not difficult for you to territorial acquisitions during the Georgian war, large construction projects throughout the country, an undoubted improvement in the living conditions and recent major maneuvers of the Republic of Armenia.

            I'll try to answer. 1) It is much easier to come to an agreement with one "overseer" of GDP than with a bunch of specific princelings. Is not it? And in the event of a sharp deterioration in the life of the people, there is a high probability of civil war and hundreds of thousands of unshaven Russian men with "Kalash" in the oil and gas pipelines. So it is easier to buy "Papuans" with green cut paper than to fight with them (140 million, after all, and there are nuclear weapons). 2) Concerning "acquisitions". In addition to hemorrhoids and a bunch of freeloaders (after all, everyone knows that the Russian Federation actually contains Abkhazia and South Ossetia), we have not acquired anything. 3) Concerning the improvement of life. As in one old joke: "We lived happily, but not for long." Now even a not very observant person can see that "improvements" are clearly declining. 4) Well, about major maneuvers ... the people must be shown that the money for the army is not wasted in vain. 5) Concerning "wise" decisions. A year has passed since the day of joining the WTO. Even down-and-out idiots see that the Russian Federation doesn't need it. But we stubbornly continue to sink our industry and agriculture. Well, about the "great construction projects of capitalism", except for taverns, supermarkets and fucking Olympic facilities, something is not visible. What other questions?
            1. 0
              27 August 2013 14: 29
              Quote: optimist
              What other questions?

              Short:
              Large Russian projects (under construction)
              http://warfiles.ru/37010-krupnye-rossiyskie-proekty-stroyaschiesya.html
            2. +1
              27 August 2013 15: 37
              Optimist, did you take such a nickname for fun? You probably get all the information from Russia from the BBC and the Voice of America, sometimes visiting the Echo of Moscow. Probably already soaped the rope, choose a stronger hook, OPTIMIST.
              1. optimist
                +1
                27 August 2013 15: 46
                Quote: ovgorskiy
                Probably already soaped the rope, choose a stronger hook, OPTIMIST.

                As they say, do not wait! More often watch federal channels, join the ONF and you will be SHISHE!
    2. +2
      27 August 2013 13: 58
      Quote: optimist
      The guy described everything correctly

      The guy very successfully picked up one-sided facts and presented them in a favorable light.
      Let me remind you in this context that at the moment, the US and NATO OKW fucking ..lead from Afghanistan through a narrow path through the territory of Russia. And if you cover this path, then over 9000 amers will be trapped in the midst of evil souls, and if Russia helps these souls, the polar fox will sneak up to the peacekeepers very quickly.
      Amers didn’t stretch out Afghanistan’s finances, but then they will survive the world, the dollar is as indestructible as ever.
      Dooh, I believe, I'm afraid.
  45. +4
    27 August 2013 11: 52
    in fact, about the dollar's fall - "the devil is not as bad as his little one."
    Yes, it will be hard, but countries will immediately switch to an alternative currency - euro \ ruble \ yuan and all settlements will be converted into it. Assets with reserves will certainly suffer, but there will be no global collapse of the world.
    By the way, about RMB with rubles: if my memory serves me right, this was discussed at the SCO summit another year in 2009 or 2010. So, there are achievements
    1. +2
      27 August 2013 12: 25
      Russia and China launched this project in 2011 of the year. An entrepreneur from Russia through a bank payment can buy goods in RMB and vice versa
  46. +8
    27 August 2013 11: 56
    1) The Shiite genocide of Syria and Lebanon is not a good reason for Iran? In the future, the Persian genocide by the Arabs?

    2) A complete sunset of European gas trade, even on a buyer's terms, is not a good reason for Russia? From the fact that some dwarf Qatar will again demand Russian slaves to itself officially through its ministries?

    3) Is China's complete US dependence on oil and gas and a potential war over an island with Japan an insufficient reason for China to growl (now that is Iran and Syria to counterbalance)?

    4) I’m not saying that the United States will reanimate all its capabilities and remain the leader for 50 for years ... Then not only VAZ will become French, our last slippers will belong to England and France ...

    5) Putin will be spoiled as president of Bolivia by any US scoop, searching about Snowden, is this not enough reason for him?
  47. Micex
    +9
    27 August 2013 11: 59
    Neither the current article, nor the first article (to which the answer is given) is any serious analytical study. The first one shows the look of "patriot grief", this one - a liberal a la "oivsevRasheploho" But, if I am ready to join the first with my heart and soul, because I love my Motherland, whatever it may be, then I am ready to spit on the author of the second article for his cynical scribbles addressed to My Country.
  48. 0
    27 August 2013 12: 09
    Europe, in turn, is forcing Gazprom to sign contracts on buyer's terms. Ukraine does not want to join the Customs Union-then recently our valiant artillerymen helped Gazprom to cope with the fire. Can I apply again?
    1. +5
      27 August 2013 12: 46
      Quote: retired
      Europe forces Gazprom to sign contracts on buyer's terms

      Europe does not take winter into account. Putin has long said to them:
      1. 0
        27 August 2013 14: 02
        Most of all I liked the hint about the irreversibility of a trip to Siberia for firewood - if you do not want to buy gas.
        1. 0
          27 August 2013 17: 33
          Another option
      2. vikruss
        +1
        28 August 2013 05: 26
        Enough to tear the Germans, they were already torn in 1945. But Israel was delivered an ultimatum by Vladimir Putin about Syria, and why ... Israel attacked Syria again, and Russia pretended not to notice anything ... That's it. Dear President, impunity is a big appetite, a passion to get drunk on a freebie.
  49. grafrozow
    +1
    27 August 2013 12: 19
    We’ll wait and see. But you don’t feel like a world war, it may happen that there will be no winners or losers, there will be a nuclear desert.
  50. +15
    27 August 2013 12: 21
    sorry for youth slang but: the author is madak, post shit, kill yourself up the wall
    1. Micex
      +3
      27 August 2013 12: 29
      but it is clear)
    2. +1
      27 August 2013 12: 46
      Quote: vadson
      author madak, post shit, kill yourself up the wall

      It’s rude, of course ... but it’s fair .... and even gives it from youth to the article, not to say immaturity ... so youth slang is just that.
    3. SASCHAmIXEEW
      0
      27 August 2013 13: 20
      I join you !!! And yet, according to Vanga, the "nuclear mushroom" in this region was not predicted, and the fall of Syria, too !!! So let's see .....
  51. +1
    27 August 2013 12: 30
    There will be no attack on Syria. Someone wants to frame Obama. We will soon see in the news how the tyrant and dictator Barack Husseinovich Obama, who seized and usurped power in the United States, will cleanse the Washington Regional Committee. Thus strengthening their dictatorship.
  52. wax
    +5
    27 August 2013 12: 34
    Of course, the amers can leave a desert in place of Syria. The states had the same opportunities two years ago. So why did this happen? So the “analysis” of this article is pure verbiage.
  53. +3
    27 August 2013 12: 36
    Quote: brace
    As much as I don’t like it, this is most likely the bitter truth. Realist article.

    As if the article contains some new realities!
    What, anyone, except, perhaps, the very stupid “youngsters” could have thought that Russia would fight in Syria for Assad, or anyone else?
    It won't and didn't intend to.
    They also found Arab brothers...Forgot Sadat, etc., etc.
    Saviors will be sold for snuff. wink
    But it is also impossible to support the states with their puppets, or to remain silent in the UN Security Council.
    They create chaos, and it is quite stupid and dangerous.
    They give matches (weapons and money) to the bearded “kids”.
    But for us there is only one conclusion: to strengthen the country’s defense properly.
    “Effective managers” need to be attracted more, Perdyukova, like Makarka, given a secret hero, a call to cancel or call on the little ones along with their mothers, near the house, or at least their grandmother, for the ardent “grandfathers” of other violators of criminals, introduce the strictest disbats instead reprimands and other urgent measures. wassat
    I forgot, we must respectfully ask not to cut too much into the defense budget!
    1. +4
      27 August 2013 13: 02
      agree. In principle, the answer to the statements “we can do it ourselves without UN decisions” should be clear and decisive, involving all possible non-military levers. Because in fact, such statements already put an end to the UN (which is already on its last legs) as a legal institution. And by and large, it will be possible (if the organization’s decisions are ignored) to openly declare the establishment/development of an alternative institution of international relations, for example, within the framework of the Eurasian Union (since our government is trying to build it).
      1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        +1
        27 August 2013 14: 42
        Name at least ONE lever with which Russia can influence the outcome of the case....no fantasy, real leverage......
        1. 0
          27 August 2013 21: 53
          I’ll name one, if Syria falls, then this is not the end for us, the end for Russia will be the fall of Iran, so remember the panic of the West about the S300 for Iran, what limits us in this? UN resolution, accordingly, if the West bypasses the Security Council veto, then we can also not pay attention to the UN sanctions against Iran under C300. made it clear? Moreover, during the mess in Iran, whales will also do air defense for them, and not just us. and the West is going to go to Syria for the third year, where will they get to Iran? but you can’t give up Syria either!
    2. +7
      27 August 2013 13: 06
      It turns out you don’t know much about the history of Russia... About its great commanders... About how the empire was built... Well, I won’t remind you of the numerous victories, I’ll remind you of another story, and as you know, it tends to repeat itself... You propose to repeat the "gambit" of Shah Muhammad...

      13th century... Genghis Khan's troops take city after city, country after country. He installs his proteges and adds defeated troops to his army...

      Khorezm... The Shah of Khorezm relied heavily on his defense. He did not help neighboring countries. Didn't come out to fight. He began to remove unwanted/unreliable people. He began to strengthen the fortresses. I thought that the enemy would see the inaccessibility and turn his horses...

      Genghis Khan had nowhere to turn his horses - he conquered the entire East and South. He simply settled around and began to hold the siege. Through the forces of puppets... He ate sheep while the defeated with their own hands gained him victory.

      And so Khorezm Shah Muhammad began to be betrayed by his own people. City after city began to hand over the keys and go over to the side of the enemy...

      And he ended his days on the island alone. And his son lost the opportunity to leave his offspring in his country. He lost everything - his homeland, his throne, his subjects. And he died somewhere in the Arabian sands... And the country of Khorezm no longer exists - there is Iran, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan and so on...

      Of course, an individual life is expensive, but when the destruction of a name, clan, nation, offspring looms, you need to decide for yourself - to die placing your self high or to live under the winner... There is no third option.
  54. d_trader
    +4
    27 August 2013 12: 45
    “The analysis is really superficial...”, yes, the author, the analysis is really superficial. In general, wrap yourself in a sheet and crawl to the cemetery and don’t spread defeatist sentiments. In 41, such defeatists were discarded.
    1. Andrpack
      -1
      27 August 2013 13: 28
      Agree ! The author was probably in a very bad mood, or had a hangover!
  55. +3
    27 August 2013 12: 57
    It was with difficulty that I forced myself to finish reading this “article,” if I may say so, and the question immediately arose: who wrote it and by whose order? Analysis at the kindergarten level, the facts are pure nonsense and pro-Amer propaganda. It’s because of advisers like these that Libya and Iraq were surrendered at one time. A disgusting libel in one word, in the style of fascist leaflets: “Russ surrender”! It’s time to put it in its place once and for all presumptuous “peacekeepers” from a butcher shop!
    1. +1
      27 August 2013 13: 13
      perhaps ordering future killers of these people:
  56. Valery Neonov
    +1
    27 August 2013 13: 00
    Quote: uhu189
    The US economy is currently functioning successfully solely thanks to the policy of quantitative easing (or, simply put, the printing press), and rumors of its winding down are causing wild panic in the economy. The United States is far from being as omnipotent as it was in the 90s, and this has become obvious to everyone, including the United States itself.

    Following your thought, the Americans OH HOW NEED a war, well, at least a regional “mess.” But they are afraid to start it without knowing the reaction of RUSSIA... hi
    1. +1
      27 August 2013 14: 56
      “They are afraid of Russia’s reaction” And therefore they are dragging their NATO allies along with them. And why am I? No. They push you in the neck, they kick you away, you don’t feel sorry for other people’s cannon fodder
  57. +9
    27 August 2013 13: 00
    Yes... I didn’t want to write, but since Beslan was remembered... Would you be so generous to interpret the reason for the death of the Alpha officers? Well, the facts are more important to you, why waste time on details. It’s just that the local policemen gave the hostages false hope of salvation, and when people started jumping from the windows, the “Czechs” started shooting at them in the back. This is where the officers rushed to save people, how? Covering the children in their arms with their bodies, they run... under fire in the back. That's how it turned out, it wasn't fun. Do you remember Nord East? Well, many of our advanced “friends” introduced this operation into their training methodology!!! Something like this... And the article itself is verbiage, so everything is simple and fine... Maybe you live in the wrong country? There is no doubt that the pissers and their pack of ass-lickers can start a massacre, but that then everything will be great is unlikely...
  58. +2
    27 August 2013 13: 03
    I am afraid that the reaction of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Russian Federation as a whole, as usual, will be limited to “concern” and “inadmissibility”.
    This is called “Putting a good face on a bad game” or simply a manifestation of political weakness or even impotence.
    What can Russia oppose to the West besides nuclear weapons? (No one will wave such an argument for the sake of Assad; this is a “Last Chance” weapon and will be saved for a very last resort)

    And so in general, of course, “Hurray”, “the Americans will not pass”, “We will defeat everyone” and all that....
  59. 0
    27 August 2013 13: 04
    Have a question for the forum members. Can Yakhont work against ground targets?
  60. 0
    27 August 2013 13: 05
    Bash on bash. Damage Syria, Putin is destroying the internal “democratic” column.
  61. melkar
    -1
    27 August 2013 13: 18
    Such heavy, selected nonsense :)
  62. Grigorich 1962
    +2
    27 August 2013 13: 23
    the article was written by a pragmatic pessimist......I think that the truth is still in the middle......and not everything in politics...especially Russian is subject to economic influence
    That's why we are Russians, that it is impossible to understand us from the outside. Yes, they are trying to put us in our place (as during EBN)....today this is hardly possible....and Russia is no longer the same...and the States and Obama are not so cool.
    I repeat... the world, as before, respects only strength..... and this strength must be shown all the time... no matter what......
    and in this case we will have more allies
  63. Muxauk
    +3
    27 August 2013 13: 45
    I wrote very offensively about Beslan, the article is negative, no one will want to get involved in a war with us, a war with us will cost everyone a lot, and they understand this. We must protect Syria, the reasons have been written here more than once. they wrote correctly above, we need to send the ships there for exercises, let them study in full combat readiness. There are many options that you can do, the main thing is not to click anything
  64. Vtel
    +3
    27 August 2013 13: 46
    The article is similar to a test vinaigrette with a minus kosher twist. The Russian people are with Syria, I won’t talk about the top, who will understand them. If the Western jackals are not given a punch, then Iran will be next, and then we will be. It would be a cool move to send our massive landing force and ships to Syria at once and let the Yankees try to shoot, their miserable lives will be at stake too, although there are more than enough frostbitten people there.
    1. fedorovith
      0
      27 August 2013 20: 13
      These creatures will not go into hand-to-hand combat, they value their skin very much, they will send a team of freaks. If they understand that they cannot do without coffins, this will stop them with all their riffraff.
      1. +1
        27 August 2013 22: 21
        in Syria there is someone to go to hand-to-hand combat, the Americans have no need to go there. FSA militants and Wahhabi scum will do everything for them.
  65. marc
    -1
    27 August 2013 13: 50
    To be honest, Syria was surrendered, we have nothing to answer, the entire top of Russia is holding the money over the hill, they are sitting on the hook, half of our government has children in London and in the USA living and studying, and Putin’s daughters live in Austria. Minus....
    1. nbw
      nbw
      -1
      27 August 2013 20: 11
      Putin's daughters live in Austria.

      You are lying liberal-democratically. Or, as a mild option, you mindlessly repeat someone else’s lies. The fact that Putin’s daughters live “over the hill” is an old and thoroughly rotten fairy tale, invented for gullible “hamsters” by Western agents. He repeatedly said “on camera” that they live in Russia. There is no evidence to the contrary, only unproven “stuffing”. And, interestingly, in which country “Putin’s daughters live”, the democratic media have not yet decided. In any search engine there are a dozen options.
      1. marc
        +2
        27 August 2013 20: 19
        Prove the opposite.
        1. nbw
          nbw
          +1
          27 August 2013 20: 29
          Oh, the fifth column is coming. As we know, “the burden of proof of a statement lies with the approver.” In this case, the generalized statement is “Putin’s daughters live abroad.” Prove it.

          I have a statement from the first person of the state that his daughters live in Russia. What do you have?
          1. marc
            -1
            27 August 2013 20: 57
            Are you naive? Over the 24 years of service in our Armed Forces, I have formed a special opinion: everything you write here is complete nonsense, there is no army in Russia, there are only single models of new weapons, all supplies that are written about on the website are lies (advertising). Nobody wants to serve, there is complete disarmament, destruction of ammunition, and there is a huge shortage in the Armed Forces. There are only promises everywhere, we will deliver, etc. In the Strategic Missile Forces, after the field exit to the PGRK at the launch site, there are 30 malfunctions that cannot be eliminated. New complexes are not BG, low build quality. And here you are all wearing rose-colored glasses, clouding your brains. To turn the situation around, a sober approach is needed, not bravado, but our leadership is not interested in this, they are covering for Serdyuk so that they themselves do not get caught. And you are almost immediately a fifth column, you are a fifth column if you don’t want to think soberly and assess the situation. ...................
            1. nbw
              nbw
              -1
              27 August 2013 21: 03
              I don’t know who and how you served there (don’t blame me), but your mood is kind of depressed. During the war, sorry, SMERSH caught such people and sent them to the basement... Or to the front, to forge victory.

              And the tricks are typically democratic. There are no arguments - you start to focus on how bad everything is. And get personal. Your merits are not visible in the browser, but anyone can add credit to their length of service in the Armed Forces. Don't be too offended if I'm wrong about you, but that's the impression I get. Typical network "hamster".
              1. marc
                +4
                27 August 2013 21: 16
                But I have services to my Motherland, to the war, and not to the browser, there are no words....
                1. nbw
                  nbw
                  +1
                  27 August 2013 21: 24
                  In this case, I apologize for the harsh statement. But still, try to notice not only the worst things around. This is a road to nowhere, it seems to me. And if we throw away the “dark filter” (largely imposed on us by our sworn “friends” through the media), then many things will appear in a different light. And there is still a lot of chaos, of course. I've seen enough of it myself. But we are getting rid of it little by little.
                  1. marc
                    +3
                    27 August 2013 21: 38
                    We will definitely get over it, I’m just used to assessing the situation realistically, this is the only way to correct the situation, that’s why I write without paint. I’m not interested in where it’s good, it’s already good. I'm interested in where it's bad, there's something to work on.
                    1. nbw
                      nbw
                      -1
                      27 August 2013 21: 47
                      But the real situation is that no one will start a nuclear war for the sake of Syria. But, note, this does not mean that “we will surrender Syria.” Most likely, the government (I mean, first of all, GDP) will try to somehow turn the situation in our favor, as it has done for the last year and a half in difficult situations. So I’m looking forward to what steps Russia will take (although Lavrov’s “calming” statement (http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/650217/), of course, was upsetting.).
                      1. marc
                        +1
                        27 August 2013 21: 54
                        I watched it live, nothing but water, no specifics, just a diplomat. One thing is sad, there are a lot of Russians in Syria who have been living there for more than one generation, since the time of the king of peas, there are about 50-60 thousand of them. What will happen to them?
                      2. nbw
                        nbw
                        -1
                        27 August 2013 22: 07
                        He has such a job.

                        I hope they have time to leave particularly hot places. Although, given the habit of the “democratizers” to rain bombs on hospitals and children. gardens, there will be few safe places in Syria. They need to evacuate, there is no other way.
                2. Arabist
                  -2
                  27 August 2013 22: 12
                  What war did you participate in?
                  1. marc
                    +1
                    28 August 2013 08: 09
                    For what purpose are you interested? I don’t answer such questions publicly, or in general.
            2. Arabist
              -1
              27 August 2013 22: 26
              Mars, excuse me, but such officers give the impression that they didn’t even play with soldiers as children. If everything is so bad, then why is no one able to answer a simple question - why haven’t they attacked yet? Not everyone here has rose-colored glasses, people see problems, but the screaming has all gone away much worse than rose-colored glasses. I have the honor.
              1. marc
                +1
                28 August 2013 08: 13
                I confess that I didn’t play much with soldiers as a child, I spent my childhood in ordeals in garrisons with my parents, I played enough with soldiers in adulthood, and why they haven’t attacked yet, believe me, it’s not your fault. I have the honor.
  66. 0
    27 August 2013 13: 58
    The United States will not leave Assad because prestige is more important than consequences and there will be an invasion? but for the Russian Federation, the word authority is not the last word in the dictionary, the result of the invasion will not be
  67. +1
    27 August 2013 14: 02
    Hello!!!!
    I read the article, read the comments - I formed a strange opinion, both for and against.
    1. Such a message has the right to exist!!!
    a) gives us the opportunity to think about our further actions under the worst possible set of circumstances (and this is one of the worst possible scenarios)
    b) gives us the opportunity to assess the situation (ideas, desires) from the other side (from the side opposite to ours, and the fact that this is the position of a person more oriented towards the West is undeniable), we need to know the thoughts and intentions of our ENEMY. (I don’t want to offend the author, but about the messenger)
    c) gives us the opportunity to evaluate the opinion of us (the rest of the world) on the part of the WEST foreign policy HAWKS
    What came to mind in a hurry laughing
    2. Such an article should not exist!!!!
    a) We have once again been poked in the face, don’t play around!!!!
    b) Russia and the whole world (the vast majority of the people) no one cares!!!
    c) Russia (former USSR) - was and will be the navel of the earth!!!!)))

    And on my own behalf I can also note that some of the ideas presented in the article are more real than ever, and the Nobel peacemaker simply needs to take revenge on V.V.P. for Snowden)))) the poor people of Syria will be a bargaining chip in it!!! Like, revenge and my revenge is terrible (Damn geopolitics)
  68. +6
    27 August 2013 14: 12
    I will not discuss the facts presented in the article; the way the material was presented was offended. With such
    youthful, malicious "humor". Why Assad’s jacket is mentioned in the article is generally unclear (buy it, Author, don’t envy yourself the same one!). I think Assad assesses quite soberly and pragmatically
    geopolitical situation. You know, Author, there is such a concept - DEBT. So Assad does it
    exactly this. And he does it calmly, without hysteria, according to the principle: Do what you must - and come what may!
    Agree, this causes great respect.
  69. Valery Neonov
    +2
    27 August 2013 14: 21
    Quote: grog_bm
    the Nobel peacemaker simply needs to take revenge on V.V.P. for Snowden)))) the poor people of Syria will be a bargaining chip in it!!!

    In September, everything will happen and everyone will make a final decision, at a meeting to which Barack (the Nobel peace fighter) will go and still, as if he had decided so, will meet with Putin. hi
  70. +6
    27 August 2013 14: 31
    "...Russia is one of the top ten creditors of the United States. So what? What will happen the next day after China demands repayment of debts from the United States? ... then the next morning it will not be the United States that will collapse, ... the entire economy of the world will turn upside down."

    To be honest, such texts, when they come across my eyes, drive me into a concrete stupor. The surest remedy against stupor is thinking about the animal world. For example, I have a worm in my stomach. For some time we live peacefully, because he doesn’t eat so much, I have enough juice, and he doesn’t make political demands. Well, he propagandizes me, of course, saying that everyone lives like this. Well, that's it.
    But he’s growing, the bastard. I'm starting to feel weak. And those around me somehow began to lose their faces - a similar problem. I’m starting to entertain the thought of whether I should fart the little bastard? Naturally, he reads my thoughts and begins to express his point of view: “What are you up to!!! You want to destroy the entire familiar world, you are encroaching on our sacred symbiosis. You simply cannot live without me!!! I, in the end, can I'll bite your belly from the inside!!!" Well, in that spirit.
    In short, when on the animal level, everything is clear: in the toilet, the bastard and all that is short-lived.
    True, when I soar to communicate with Vlad Pecherin, I begin to doubt. I think it's called cognitive dissonance. Got sick.
  71. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    -12
    27 August 2013 14: 31
    If there was an opportunity, I would have given the author not one plus, but a hundred or two hundred, the author went a little too far, but just a little, he forgot to add that there will be a shortage of paper in Russia, everything will be spent on notes of protest, unfortunately we have nothing more to answer, and the citizens are screaming about version 08.08.08. it’s time to get out of the computer, the shooting games are over, real life is outside the window, Assad is more dead than alive as a politician, but he will be in our hearts forever (here to wipe away a stingy male tear) and about everything else the author is practically right..... ..And Putin would not ruin his political career and further reign, for 15-20 years for sure, because of some tyrant and despot..... in the next two months everything will be clear.....
  72. +1
    27 August 2013 14: 35
    Another rant from the pro-Western “OnOlitEk”, which is not supported by anything!
  73. smiths xnumx
    +7
    27 August 2013 14: 42
    Well, something like that.

    Yours! hi
  74. Jin
    +3
    27 August 2013 14: 48
    Oil prices will fall... Maybe this will finally force us to develop industry, and not stupidly sell resources, so as not to depend only on oil???
  75. melkar
    +13
    27 August 2013 15: 12
    “And if he had paid less attention to his beautiful jacket, he would have suddenly realized that the Olympics are coming soon in Russia and she wouldn’t mind disgracing herself, what kind of Assad is that? Besides, the Far East was flooded... And China refuses to take gas through Russian prices and even at market prices; in turn, Europe forces Gazprom to sign contracts on the buyer's terms. Ukraine does not want to join the Customs Union - this is all much darker than the war in Syria. This is the end of a hypothetical empire, even in a hypothetical distant future. Russia has internal problems more than in Syria"

    Every sentence in this short paragraph is inherently incorrect. How can you analyze an article where in one paragraph there are already so many conjectures and a complete lack of facts?
    1. “What if he took less care of his beautiful jacket,”
    Already as a starting point, the author decided for some reason that we should analyze some of his fantasies about a jacket, apparently this should distract us from serious analysis
    2. “Russia will soon have the Olympics and it doesn’t care about itself – it wouldn’t disgrace itself, what kind of Assad is that”
    The author immediately leads us to the idea that RUSSIA must certainly disgrace itself - this is simply a desire to spit on RUSSIA, and besides, an alleged “argument” against Assad has emerged. In fact, it’s just an emotional attack on those who the author doesn’t like - Russia and Assad. The connection here is no more than between green and high.
    3. “Besides, the Far East was flooded...” - this is generally the height of analytical thought, its peak :)))
    4. “And China refuses to take gas at Russian prices and even at market prices.” And for what?, I would like to ask the author. Maybe “China” itself, in the person of its one and a half billion population, told him the price? It (the price) is obviously not given - this is analytics :)
    5. “in turn, Europe forces Gazprom to sign contracts on the buyer’s terms.” What kind of agreement and with whom, again, I would like to ask the author, but as I already said, the author is clearly a top analyst and is not inclined to operate with facts.
    6. “Ukraine does not want to join the Customs Union - this is all much darker than the war in Syria.” Ukraine has been wanting independence for more than 20 years, but it didn’t seem to promise it in the Customs Union, why did everything suddenly become gloomy, if things haven’t been any different for more than 20 years?
    7. “This is the end of a hypothetical empire, even in a hypothetical distant future. There are more internal problems in Russia than in Syria.”
    But here I will allow myself to speak also without evidence and a priori. Everyone who writes what I highlighted in the last paragraph simply does not exist for me as analysts, simply because if “there is no empire, and not even in the hypothetical future,” then what are you gentlemen, geopolitical analysts, doing? :) There is a simple thing that I will express again as an axiom: geopolitics exists because there is an empire, our empire, if it does not exist, then geopolitics is no longer needed :). This is the problem of Russia: it just wants to be, but cannot, because where there is RUSSIA, there is an empire, and therefore geopolitics. If our empire does not exist, then I assure you that geopolitics will disappear as unnecessary and the kingdom of postmodernity will come, but even there you, Mr. author, will not be of any use with such nonsense :)
  76. 0
    27 August 2013 15: 18
    Quote: Lazer
    Bash on bash. Damage Syria, Putin is destroying the internal “democratic” column.

    I agree, I think there are certain “action plans”.
    1. 0
      27 August 2013 22: 26
      It’s not in vain that this Saudi prince galloped to Moscow. Oh, not in vain. It’s unknown what they were talking about. They released information about 15 billion and kept quiet!!
  77. Nikvan
    +3
    27 August 2013 15: 34
    A rat driven into a corner has nothing to fear. And the article is a complete lie.
  78. picnic
    +3
    27 August 2013 15: 48
    Let’s say that even six months ago, Assad could have shown a fig to the United States, but now Russia’s economic reports have come out - the economy is standing (+0,2%), and may soon begin to fall. But the fact that Russia was approaching a recession was known already a year ago - this should have already become a reason for this Assad of yours to think about it.

    Not everything is so simple. There is a crisis in Africa too. And Russia will come out. The percentage, although small, is a plus. Years, decades will pass and Russia will become the only world power, because only it has the potential to become one (huge natural resources + a unique national mentality (readiness to sacrifice for the sake of the country and people) + external stability due to military power ).
    Assad made no mistake here, betting on Russia.
  79. +14
    27 August 2013 15: 55
    Quote: strannik595
    Vlasovites also thought that they had chosen the right, strong, smart and powerful side

    Well said. And I remind Russia’s opponents of the following ass-busting veils:
    1. The crusading knights were really creepy. As a result of their attack on Russia, they even stopped making their crusades. By the way, their 500 dead knights are almost 15 times more than in the largest battle of that time (100 Years' War), where a little more than 30 died on both sides
    2. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth at that time was cooler than the current United States. And the territory is wow (including Ukraine). They contacted the Russians and became “just Poland.”
    3. Sweden once brought horror to all of Europe. Theirs Karl hammered other Europeans like kindergarteners. We contacted Russia - since then it has been an eternally neutral country and “just Sweden.”
    4. Ottoman Empire. If anyone doesn’t know, the territory included all of North Africa, Israel, Syria, the Balkans, Greece, Serbia, etc. Well, it WAS a very cool power. IT WAS... We fought with the Russians, now it’s “just Türkiye.”
    5. Well, our German partners will probably also agree that although Germany is a “respected member,” it is only economically. Clearly the country does not reach the power of Friedrich's Prussia, Bismarck's Germany, and especially the 3rd Reich.
    There was no point in getting involved with the Russians.
    So, gentlemen, bourgeois-arrogant Saxons, the battle continues. And what idiot blurted out something about the “lost Cold War”? Do we have American tanks at every intersection? Or are the Stars and Stripes flags flying on the Spasskaya Tower?
    Everything is ahead, we'll see.
    1. Jin
      +2
      27 August 2013 16: 13
      Quote: Magadan
      Well said. And I remind Russia’s opponents of the following ass-busting veils:


      On the whole, I agree and agree with you!+ But, colleague, let’s not go too far... I’m talking about this:

      Quote: Magadan
      . As a result of their attack on Russia, they even stopped making their crusades. By the way, their 500 dead knights are almost 15 times more than in the largest battle of that time (100 Years' War), where a little more than 30 died on both sides
  80. +7
    27 August 2013 16: 09
    You know, someday (maybe tomorrow) “Uncle Sam” and his vassals will knock on your door and offer to get out of your own home (of course, for humane reasons of protecting LGBT rights and the fundamental principles of democracy). Once again, in full accordance with “Western values,” you will be asked to make a democratic choice: “either push your buns and become a servant for the dominant LGBT race, or die.”

    If aggression takes place and Russia swallows it..... . It will become obvious to everyone that we cannot be taken seriously.

    In the current situation (I know that everyone will declare me a patient in ward No. 6), the only option is a “nuclear ultimatum.” For example, the capitals of the aggressor countries are subject to a nuclear missile attack or something else... . In the future, either “the end of life on Earth” or Russia becomes a “rogue country.” It is better to live in a “rogue country” and behind the Iron Curtain than to turn into a European caliphate in 50 years. One must be prepared to die for principles, or what the hell is life then?
    1. d_trader
      +2
      27 August 2013 16: 59
      Quote: Artillerist
      One must be prepared to die for principles, or what the hell is life then?

      A plus!
      1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        -4
        27 August 2013 18: 51
        Is it really Putin who is being offered to die? Knights of cloak and dagger and principles are incompatible things, any intelligence officer will tell you that, but as for dying, I already wrote to someone who wants a machine gun in the teeth and forward!!! True, like a volunteer who fell unknown in the Syrian desert ....Lofty words are good to say in front of a computer, but they suck in person, in general, good luck to you in the fight for Assad’s cause! Amen......
        1. nbw
          nbw
          0
          27 August 2013 20: 25
          Knights of cloak and dagger and principles are incompatible things

          Tell that to Richard Sorge, for example.

          It seems to me that you are somehow too democratic, despite the formidable nickname typed in caps.
    2. +3
      27 August 2013 17: 36
      А
      Quote: Artillerist
      You know, someday (maybe tomorrow) “Uncle Sam” and his vassals will knock on your door



      And we will open it for them and break off the knockers...
      1. +1
        28 August 2013 05: 52
        Quote: KrSk
        And we will open it for them and break off the knockers.
    3. vikruss
      +1
      28 August 2013 05: 15
      I absolutely agree. If Russia shamefully fails to respond in any way... its political influence in the world will end. All these Laurel regrets... the cry of the helpless. There must be a specific ultimatum and subsequent reaction. For example, that fucking British base in Cyprus should cease to exist within the next hour after the shelling of Syria begins. Give the Syrians the necessary ammunition, they have aviation. It's time to give back... Russia's move is yours.
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  82. 0
    27 August 2013 16: 26
    Let's believe in the best, perhaps this is another information surge to test the reaction....no specific actions have been taken yet and Putin's silence can be viewed in different ways, is this really serious? The West is no longer strong enough to throw billions at a half-destroyed country. This week will show who scratches his tongue and who is faithful to his course.
    p.s. I hope that Russia will emerge victorious.
  83. penyvr
    +2
    27 August 2013 16: 37
    We don’t want to predict what will happen in the near future, but judging by how ours surrendered Iraq and Libya, confidence in our power is melting, well, what can the Geyropes and America oppose to our countries?? Of course, Russia will someday get out of the crisis, well, in 50-100 years if “Stalin” comes to power and we will cover Syria someday
  84. +4
    27 August 2013 16: 45
    There were so many (correct) comments that I didn’t read them all and downvoted the article.
    I’ll repeat what I posted the other day:
    “If today Russia does not help Syria, then tomorrow, when the bearded and Baltic police come to us, no one will help Russia, including the neighbors who are also “out of their hands.”
    1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      0
      27 August 2013 18: 52
      Otherwise, you might think that someone once helped Russia.....wake up, you’re delusional....
  85. +3
    27 August 2013 16: 51
    The article was written by an enemy. Using conventional methods, a half-truth is worse than a lie.
    1. nbw
      nbw
      0
      27 August 2013 20: 32
      The article was written by an enemy. Using conventional methods, a half-truth is worse than a lie.


      Short and clear. There's not much to add. Keep "+".
      1. nbw
        nbw
        0
        27 August 2013 21: 22
        Minus, minus. You won’t downvote everyone.
        Our cause is right
  86. andruha70
    +3
    27 August 2013 17: 03
    I hope this is the author's personal opinion... negative and not a go-ahead from the Kremlin - to prepare the electorate for the surrender of Syria... like, yes, we would have resisted, but it’s like... the Olympics, panimash... the Chinese don’t want to buy oil at a normal price... Far East , again, flooding... request not my fault...we... recourse
  87. olviko
    +4
    27 August 2013 17: 06
    The whole article is just some kind of cry, no, not even a cry - a cry of joy: “Hurray, finally our Stars and Stripes are coming! Finally, the “civilized” West will put in its place this greyhound, who does not want to dance to the American tune. For more than 20 years they have been indoctrinating the Russians to people and everyone who lives in Russia, including the world, that Russia is weak, unhappy, incapable of anything, and Russia has no prospects for development, as well as a future.
    Being in a crisis, and not having the opportunity to put pressure on Russia by force, our geopolitical “partners” are forced to attack us with their other favorite method - taking advantage of fear, or simply bluffing. Syria is an example of this. . You guys are trying in vain; Russia has never emerged victorious from such situations. The West suddenly saw that it had not won anything and had not even won. Once again, Russia turned out to be an independent and self-sufficient international factor. It must be taken into account and negotiated with. Why does this happen? Yes, because, as the holy noble prince Alexander Nevsky said, “God does not lie in power, but in truth.” And the truth is on our side!
  88. +2
    27 August 2013 17: 56
    Mr. Author Vlad Pecherin!
  89. +2
    27 August 2013 18: 05
    I especially didn’t like the part about the rusty boats. This is Russophobia at the level of Polish or Swedish.
  90. +1
    27 August 2013 18: 09
    oh, you should get out of “this country”. we don't need those here now. what is needed here is with the will to work and victory, and not demagogues and refined alarmists.
  91. +3
    27 August 2013 18: 20
    Minus article! It’s just practically the most pessimistic version written by a pessimist - “the glass is half empty” - an empty and incompetent article.... Moreover, it was written by a person completely clueless about the concept of “political games”! And why does everyone who writes about Syria completely forget about Iran??? And this is the “cornerstone” of all modern US policy in the Middle East!
  92. +2
    27 August 2013 18: 32
    Quote: BatkaMahno
    AND NO profit

    You are wrong, there is a profit, Qatar needs territory for a gas pipeline to Europe, where they want an alternative to Gazprom, so the profit from the sale of gas will be noticeable
  93. +1
    27 August 2013 19: 06
    What is good about such articles _ They clearly separate
    the wheat is from the chaff

    At the moment - 202 / + 53.
    Author Vlad Pecherin

    First the name was ogeiropeil, then he himself became ogeiropeil.

    negative
  94. 0
    27 August 2013 19: 10
    Anecdote: Walking women discuss who they would like their potential children to be. One of them declares that she wants to become the mother of a famous football player. She is asked: “Why?” She explains: “Imagine a match. My son dribbles past one, the other, the third, goes one-on-one with the goalkeeper, shot!!! Barbell! The whole stadium stands up and chants: “Ok your mother!!!” And then I enter the field. and I say: “I am his mother.”
    The author reminded me of this walking woman.
  95. Mark III
    +2
    27 August 2013 19: 11
    The tone of the article causes me nothing but disgust. But most disgusting of all is the author’s wicked attitude towards the strong and rich. Well, the owner didn’t like Assad’s clean jacket and appointed him as a bad guy. He stamped his foot: Let you get out! But it was not there. And the owner roared and began to gather a flock of jackals 100:1, threatening the guy with violence. The Chaldeans were frightened, bent over in a slavish bow and began to compose a memoir about the Tatars.
    It’s a no-brainer that neither Russia nor China will directly get involved in the war, just as NATO didn’t get involved in the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. Who wants to have a “vigorous winter” on the planet, it’s better under the sun. But they can spoil the mass so that it doesn’t seem like a banquet. How? Well guys, you give it.
    What about the bad guy? He was already a priori accused of using a prohibited chemical. weapons. He has nothing to lose if he is pressed against the wall, he takes it and fires missiles with explosives in three or four directions (God forbid, of course), because a hundred troubles - one answer. He remembers well the fate of his neighbors.
  96. +1
    27 August 2013 19: 28
    I really hope that Vlad Pecherin is not Medvedev’s reference, otherwise some of the turns are very reminiscent of Medvedev’s attack on Lebanon.
    And the article is just a cry from the heart with a white ribbon.
  97. +1
    27 August 2013 20: 01
    What the author wants to say is not very clear, Russia will not declare total war on everyone over Syria, this is understandable, but it will also continue to arm the legitimate government of Syria. Because moral and financial exhaustion of the enemy in local wars is beneficial. For Russia in Syria, and perhaps throughout the entire Middle East, there is probably no losing situation. NATO is getting into yet another muddy trap, losing the remnants of its authority and provoking questions at home and wasting resources, all connections in the Middle East are burning with a blue flame (ours burned down 20 years ago anyway), starting a redistribution there from scratch is beneficial for us. Terrorism in southern Russia will justify tougher measures to counter it. Capitalism in a word, the main thing for us is to keep quiet, money doesn’t like noise
    1. marc
      +1
      27 August 2013 20: 11
      In a week there will be no legitimate government in Syria, so there will be no one to arm, everyone has screwed up.
      1. 0
        27 August 2013 20: 18
        Quote: marc
        , so there will be no one to arm, everyone has screwed up.

        Oh, is it possible to arm a gang that calls itself the successors of the legitimate government, they screwed up in 92. but here you can play normally, at least for the coast.
    2. +1
      28 August 2013 12: 05
      Quote: Kyrgyz
      NATO is getting into yet another muddy trap, losing the remnants of its authority and provoking questions at home and wasting resources, all connections in the Middle East are burning with a blue flame (ours burned down 20 years ago anyway), starting a redistribution there from scratch is beneficial for us.

      It would be wrong to complicate the simple, but reducing complex processes to a primitive level of understanding is also not useful. We innocently believe that the stupid amers have not achieved their goals in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, and are now meddling in Syria. Here we do not take into account strategic goals determined by their long-term plans. From these positions, it becomes clear that it does not matter how effective your next step is in unleashing military conflicts, what is important is that this step is strategically appropriate (a private goal is in the area of ​​the main, strategic goal). What kind of authority and waste of resources are we talking about? By arresting the bank accounts (an average of $200 billion) of the leaders of these countries, you can already recoup your costs, not to mention other economic opportunities (control of oil in Iraq, Libya, plunder of rare earth elements in Afghanistan), and even the banal printing press can be turned on. And authority in general is of zero value to the Amers; they have learned to restore it through slander and sabotage.
      It is difficult to judge the amers’ strategic goals - there is no consistent information, but the goals, let’s say, operational and tactical, lie on the surface - this is saving the dollar and destabilizing the “underbelly” of Russia through “controlled chaos” in neighboring states.
  98. +2
    27 August 2013 20: 06
    There may be another option. The withdrawal of money from Russia does not stop - theft, corruption, plus the official (reserve fund) they do not lie in bags but are also used to arm foreign armies. so it is quite likely that GDP is an accomplice in all these campaigns of “freedom and democracy”. and all actions are just to increase your rating in order to stay on the throne. so let's wait and see how things will develop further
  99. fedorovith
    +1
    27 August 2013 20: 23
    The article is paragraphs torn out from many apparently drafts, the author does not know the latest changes in both Qatar and North Arabia. A big minus for the team of nonsense.
  100. serge
    +2
    27 August 2013 21: 12
    By declaring Kosovo independent from Serbia, despite Russian protests, Putin's government gained significant political benefit following the escalation of the Georgian conflict. They warned the West. If you didn't listen, you'll get it. It was unexpected for everyone and, whatever it really was, it gave and still gives the impression of a well-planned operation. If aggression against Syria takes place, it will be interesting to see what trump card Putin will put on the table this time. It’s not just the West that is calculating its moves. There are also weak points in (p)Indian politics. Vulnerable Qatar and Saudi Arabia, the Russian Baltic states waiting with flowers for our troops, our Kurdish friends have been waiting for our weapons for a long time. Something suggests that Western aggression against Syria may backfire.

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