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Will Manas move to Kazakhstan?

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The Kyrgyz authorities have finally decided the fate of the Manas base. It closes. Meanwhile, the US military commanders announced that they did not intend to completely curtail their activities in the Central Asian region, and were looking for a new place to deploy the base. Among the options were Kazakhstan Aktau and Shymkent.


In an interview with the American television channel Pentagon Channel, the commander of the American military base in Kyrgyzstan, John Millard, said that there was no curtailment of activities, but the issue of "moving to another place" was being resolved.

It is worth noting that, according to the law on the denunciation of the treaty on the American base in Kyrgyzstan, all the relevant negotiations should be completed by January 11, 2014, and by the summer of this year, the Americans will have to leave Bishkek.

The American airbase in Bishkek, which later became the official name of the Transit Center, was established at Manas International Airport in December 2001 and still serves as the main transport and logistics hub for the transportation of goods to Afghanistan, along the so-called northern route of delivery. According to official information, the center has 1,5 units of thousands of US military and civilians who are engaged in the operation of NATO's Enduring Freedom forces in Afghanistan.

As is known, the complete withdrawal of troops of the anti-terrorist coalition in 2014 from Afghanistan will not occur, this information has already been officially confirmed by the US military command. Therefore, to say that the Western mission in Central Asia is nearing completion is premature.

Political analyst Kurban Yuvshanov told Italics that, judging by the activity of the US military command today, there is a hurried search for the territory to which the military contingent can be relocated from the Manas base.

“Central Asia is interesting to the USA not only from the point of view of ensuring security in Afghanistan, but also on the basis of the global geopolitical tasks of the Americans. Therefore, the White House does not want to miss this region, hence all the talk about projects that should weaken Russia's position here. In particular, this dictated the projects The New Silk Road and Nabucco, strengthening the role of the United States in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. From this point of view, Kazakhstan seems to be a country, to a lesser extent embroiled in the orbit of American interests, and it is quite possible that the American generals are looking to Kazakhstani territories for the potential deployment of their base here and strengthening their own political and military influence, ”Yuvshanov notes.

However, while the US military does not want to finally disclose their plans for a possible relocation of the base, apparently still hoping that they will be able to convince the Kyrgyz authorities to reconsider the denunciation of the Manas treaty. In particular, this can explain the fact that the statement of the commander of the American base in Kyrgyzstan, John Millard, was later removed from the official website of the Pentagon channel.

Experts note that Americans are eyeing at once to several territories in Central Asia, where the base could be moved, in particular, in the field of view of the US military command - Aktau and Shymkent in Kazakhstan, Kulyab in Tajikistan and the possible integration of the American base in the Uzbek city of Termez.

Speaking of the fact that now there is an active search for a new territory, John Millard stressed that a full-scale work has already begun on the complete curtailment of activities in the transit center in Bishkek.

“According to President Obama and representatives of the ISAF international security assistance forces, by mid-July 2014, when we will have to completely withdraw from Bishkek. the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan will not end, so the activities of our base will need to be continued, and, apparently, it will have to be moved to another place, ”said Millard.

Alisher Khamidov, an expert from the Institute of Economic Studies of Central Asian countries, told kursiv.kz that, on the one hand, Kazakhstan seems to be the most convenient option to move the Manas base, due to the fact that by consolidating in this country, Americans can count on countering the integration processes of Astana with Moscow. At the same time, Akorda can continue to convince Russia of its neutral position, and declare that the opening of a certain military unit of the Americans in the Republic of Kazakhstan is only the country's contribution to ensuring security in Afghanistan.

“This is possible, but the prospects for this project are rather vague. Although, active American and British diplomacy in Kazakhstan shows that, despite the close relations with Moscow, Astana does not intend to move much further from the West. In particular, the joint exercises of the armed forces of the United States, Great Britain and Kazakhstan - the Steppe Eagle, which are gaining momentum, underline that both the United States and Britain, and Kazakhstan are interested in cooperation in the military sphere with each other. Therefore, it is possible that something will appear in Aktau or Shymkent, or near Almaty, but I do not think that it will be called a base, but will come up, as in the case of Uzbekistan, with some kind of inconspicuous name, like the antiterrorist Center. But the essence will not change, it will just be possible to avoid uncomfortable questions, ”says Khamidov.

However, he is extremely skeptical about the possibility of the US military moving to Kazakhstan, suggesting that if such an option is considered, it is only as a backup.

“Still, the Kremlin will not approve of this, and it will be difficult for Akorda to take this step,” he said.

At the same time, experts noted that a certain hint at the possibility of expanding the US military presence in Kazakhstan was made by the commander of the Airborne Forces of Kazakhstan, Daulet Ospanov, during military exercises with NATO forces in Kazakhstan.

"Every year the format of the exercise" Steppe Eagle "is changing and becoming more complex, the territory of the international exercises is also increasing," said Ospanov.

How much this territory can increase, it remains only to guess, perhaps it will grow to a full-fledged military base of the forces of the antiterrorist coalition in Kazakhstan or to the so-called Center for Countering Terrorism.

Note that on the basis of the memorandums signed between the government of Kazakhstan and the United States yet 15 December 2001 of the year and 10 of July 2002 of the year, the US military can freely use the air corridor of Kazakhstan. In February, 2009, the American side received the official consent of Kazakhstan to the transit of civilian goods by land transport through the territory of Kazakhstan in order to ensure peace and stability in Afghanistan.

Also, information that RK receives some proposals from the United States about opening a full-fledged US military base on its territory periodically leaks, but Akorda hesitates because of opposition from China and Russia.

Moreover, back in 2010, the question of moving the Manas base to the territory of military airfields in the Almaty region, in particular, in Zhetygen, was actively discussed. Allegedly, this was the condition of the West for the possibility of holding an OSCE summit in Kazakhstan. But then the American base in Kazakhstan did not appear. American General David Petraeus, in turn, said that the leaders of Kazakhstan and the United States do not even consider the possibility of opening a US base in Kazakhstan and this issue has never been discussed.

Today, American forces have their own stakes in Uzbekistan, a base operates here in the city of Termez, in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, there is the largest location of the NATO armed forces in Manas and the US military center is also located in the Shorabad region of the Khatlon region of Tajikistan.

It is worth saying that Tajikistan is also a potential place where Americans can move from Kyrgyzstan, and seems to be the most preferable and more likely than Kazakhstan.

"Tajikistan can become an alternative to the Manas military base in Kyrgyzstan. After the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan in 2014, the US military base Manas will be closed, and to prevent threats from terrorist and extremist organizations, especially Al-Qaeda and The Taliban "in the region, it is necessary to create a new operational security center," said American co-singer Dani Lee Burton.
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  1. Cormorants
    Cormorants 26 August 2013 08: 26 New
    +3
    Yeah, the new security center, and also with missile defense elements.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 26 August 2013 13: 41 New
      0
      I hope Nazarbayev has the intelligence and will not to deploy an American base on the territory of Kazakhstan? Greeting the Yankees has never contributed to peace and tranquility in the host region, but only projected instability and new conflicts.
      1. alatau_09
        alatau_09 26 August 2013 21: 37 New
        +3
        The SCO countries unanimously adopted a document where the participating countries pledged not to provide their territories for military bases to third countries. And Kyrgyzstan only follows this decision.
        Этим все сказано, остальное это "чесальня" для "чешущихся".
  2. Trailer
    Trailer 26 August 2013 08: 31 New
    +6
    in the field of view of the US military command - Aktau and Shymkent in Kazakhstan I don’t need them at home! They have no way to Kazakhstan, to Tajikistan too. There are ours. But the Uzbeks will accept them with open arms.
    1. fklj
      fklj 26 August 2013 09: 58 New
      +5
      I'm afraid that you, Karavan, Nazarbayev will not ask.
      We have an interesting CSTO ...
      1. avt
        avt 26 August 2013 10: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: fklj
        We have an interesting CSTO ...

        Multi-vector. Weathervane.
        1. Alibekulu
          Alibekulu 26 August 2013 11: 56 New
          +8
          Quote: avt
          Multi-vector. Weathervane.
          Calm only calm ... wink
      2. Very old
        Very old 26 August 2013 10: 53 New
        +5
        Alexei, no CSTO exists, just as there is no NATO. There is a confrontation. There are interests, who have permanent, who have temporary
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 26 August 2013 12: 33 New
          0
          Most likely, the way it is !! This is called a selling policy, or your own skin is closer to the body !!!
      3. Alibekulu
        Alibekulu 26 August 2013 12: 21 New
        +9
        Quote: fklj
        We have an interesting CSTO ...
        Вы бы очки купили и ещё раз внимательно статью прочитали... Где там говорится, что "Манас" перекочует именно в Казахстан??! Факты в студию.. А, ещё у русских говорят "говорят быков доят"...
        Quote: antibanukuraza
        Personally, I, as a citizen of Kazakhstan, are against the appearance of American ba
        And, as a citizen of the Republic of Kazakhstan, I personally do not mind - if this meets the state interests of Kazakhstan ..
        Quote: smsk
        This is just nonsense. Kazakhstan will not agree to a military base on its territory. Why then did Nazarbayev move the Eurasian Union to spoil relations with Russia at one point?
        Полностью согласен, вот на кой Казахстану "байговать" с РФ, без видимых на то причин..
        В этой статье, а точнее в комментариях к статье интересно, то что с каким рвением эти слухи подхватывают наши россиянские "коллеги"..
        RS: Even if, by some miracle, this notorious base ends up in the Republic of Kazakhstan, all the same, no one in Kazakhstan will give permission to place it without consultation with the Kremlin and its tacit consent ..
        Так что господа "урашники" не напрягайтесь и не надейтесь smile казахи "недураки" в конце концов...
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 26 August 2013 15: 52 New
          0
          Quote: Alibekulu
          And, as a citizen of the Republic of Kazakhstan, I personally do not mind - if this meets the state interests of Kazakhstan ..

          And his own opinion about the state. interests of Kazakhstan you, as a citizen, have?
          Or as they say from above?

          Вот многие товарищи на форуме высказывали своё возмущение относительно перевалочной базы НАТО в Ульяновске. Но ведь такое решение было не принято не зря. Наверняка оно "отвечает гос. интересам". Ну в самом деле, не можем же мы утверждать, что в правительстве сидят предатели или дураки. Нет, там сидят государственные мужи, которые даже во сне мучаются решением гос. проблем.
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 26 August 2013 17: 38 New
            +1
            Quote: Flood
            Well, in fact, we cannot say that traitors or fools are sitting in the government. No, there are statesmen who even in a dream are tormented by the decision of the state. problems.

            In the best cases.
    2. Papakiko
      Papakiko 26 August 2013 11: 01 New
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      Quote: Karavan
      They have no way to Kazakhstan, to Tajikistan too. There are ours. But the Uzbeks will accept them with open arms.

      It is worth noting that, according to the law on the denunciation of the treaty on the American base in Kyrgyzstan, all the relevant negotiations should be completed by January 11, 2014, and by the summer of this year, the Americans will have to leave Bishkek.
      From this it follows that mattress-beds by the summer of some year will have to leave.
      As is known, the complete withdrawal of troops of the anti-terrorist coalition in 2014 from Afghanistan will not occur, this information has already been officially confirmed by the US military command. Therefore, to say that the Western mission in Central Asia is nearing completion is premature.
      As we all know, let's say the official part of NATO and the satellites.
      And it’s not official any more now and in a year it will double twice.
      Quote: xetai9977
      My plan is that nobody is interested in the fact that the Americans (NATO) have left Afghanistan. And, first of all, Russia. It is clear that after their departure the Taliban and Alkaedists will crush Karzai. But where will their gaze AFTER. Most likely to the north.

      Do not get carried away by the products of the Afghan agriculture, cherevato and destructive.
      Quote: serge-68-68
      И "Манас" под вопросом - там, по-моему, сейчас Катар активничает.

      Taki correctly thinks Komrad.
      Quote: Nursultan
      Amer as always ahead of the planet. They didn’t even have time to discuss how they already say that their base will be there or there.

      The kid said the kid did.
      "Гауляйтеры-царьки" на местах только для виду.
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 26 August 2013 13: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: Papakiko
        Don’t get carried away by Afghan agricultural products,

        No, I’m not fond of it, but it wouldn’t hurt you to take off your pink glasses. You have to be realistic, otherwise some people come up with an illusory world and live in it. Unlike you, your president really sees danger where he exists.
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 26 August 2013 17: 21 New
          -2
          Quote: xetai9977
          Unlike you, your president really sees danger where he exists.

          Это вы сильно отожгли, вокурат в самый "яблочко".

          Осталось выяснить причину "измены" нашего презервидента в тех местах, где он бывает или причину "реально увиденных опасностей". belay

          Illusory world, pink glasses- Are you sure you are addressing the Russians? (I do not speak to RUSSIAN)

          I’ll even put you + for such a MASTERPIECE.
  3. slaventi
    slaventi 26 August 2013 08: 39 New
    +3
    Таджикистан может стать альтернативой военной базе "Манас" в Кыргызстане

    Then let America become an alternative for Tajik guest workers.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 26 August 2013 12: 38 New
      +1
      If the Tajiks open their entrance to them, then I think our entrance will be closed to us (Tajiks)!
  4. Renat
    Renat 26 August 2013 08: 47 New
    +1
    Is this the nonproliferation of NATO? Surrounded on all sides. An urgent need to deliver a couple of missiles to Cuba. And then let them shout about the second wave of the Caribbean crisis.
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 26 August 2013 09: 06 New
      +6
      My plan is that nobody is interested in the fact that the Americans (NATO) have left Afghanistan. And, first of all, Russia. It is clear that after their departure the Taliban and Alkaedists will crush Karzai. But where will their gaze AFTER. Most likely to the north. Putin spoke about this a year ago. There is a NATO transshipment base in Ulyanovsk. But the prices there turned out to be exorbitant, even for NATO members, this is a topic for another discussion.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 26 August 2013 10: 32 New
        +2
        Here, rather, the option of Uzbekistan is more realistic.
      2. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 26 August 2013 10: 41 New
        0
        Quote: xetai9977
        My plan is that nobody is interested in the fact that the Americans (NATO) have left Afghanistan. And, first of all, Russia.

        It sounds very crazy, do not repeat the stupid things said by the GDP! How can Russia be interested in being hosted by NATO at its borders? fool
        Do you seriously think that the United States in Afghanistan protects the interests of the Russian Federation.
        Quote: xetai9977
        There is a NATO transshipment base in Ulyanovsk. But the local prices turned out to be prohibitive even for NATO

        - Are the NATO members tired of paying kickbacks? laughing EAT! Russian corruption guards the Russian borders! Theater of the absurd - tandem clowns!
      3. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 26 August 2013 12: 41 New
        +1
        At one time, the Taliban drugged the drug, and under Amers, everything bloomed in a riotous color, something Putin is not making!
      4. MstislavHrabr
        MstislavHrabr 26 August 2013 15: 55 New
        +1
        Well, let the Kirghiz leave the base even for a year ... But, the prices should also be beyond the limits and with an advance payment ... But no - let the Americans go.
  5. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 26 August 2013 08: 48 New
    +1
    США никогда не уйдут из постсоветской Средней Азии. И местные "царьки" повизгивая от предвкушения объедков с американского стола, выстроятся в очередь за право размещения у себя базы янкесов. Казахстан, возможно, откажется. И "Манас" под вопросом - там, по-моему, сейчас Катар активничает.
  6. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 26 August 2013 09: 04 New
    +2
    Quote: slaventi
    Таджикистан может стать альтернативой военной базе "Манас" в Кыргызстане

    Then let America become an alternative for Tajik guest workers.

    This is definitely not a threat to America, it is sleeping and sees how to stay in the region and even Russia to arrange some kind of taunt.
  7. nemec55
    nemec55 26 August 2013 09: 11 New
    +1
    The scary thing is not that the Americans are in the KZ, but the youth in the KZ is attuned to the Russians. For some reason, it’s rather aggressive. In the future, after Nursultan left and under the advice of the Americans, a piece of nerves can form under the belly of Russia.
    1. MstislavHrabr
      MstislavHrabr 26 August 2013 16: 01 New
      -2
      This is not strange to me. Read carefully the history books in Kazakhstan on this infe several generations have already been brought up ... If the situation with historical education cannot be reversed ... We will become a nation of invaders, invaders and enslavers for all the peoples of the former USSR ...
      1. avt
        avt 26 August 2013 16: 31 New
        -2
        Quote: MstislavHrabr
        For all the peoples of the former USSR, we will become a nation of invaders, invaders and enslavers ...

        Eka! The campaign was late, we have been such for a long time, this is the basis of the foundations of newly formed states on a national basis, laid down by Ilyich contrary to Stalin’s proposal for the autonomy of the republics, if Stalin didn’t change his memory then he was a people's commissar for national issues.
      2. Essenger
        26 August 2013 17: 33 New
        +5
        Quote: MstislavHrabr
        If the situation with historical education is not reversed ...

        Do you want our children to study according to your textbooks? No thanks. As the Irish tire fane say, that is, ourselves.
        1. avt
          avt 26 August 2013 19: 48 New
          -2
          Quote: Essenger
          Do you want our children to study according to your textbooks?

          Нет ,он хочет чтоб вы к нам со своими учебниками не приезжали ,своих ,,историков" хватает.
          1. Essenger
            27 August 2013 11: 56 New
            +3
            Quote: avt
            Quote: Essenger
            Do you want our children to study according to your textbooks?

            Нет ,он хочет чтоб вы к нам со своими учебниками не приезжали ,своих ,,историков" хватает.

            Вот когда ваши "историки" перестанут давать какие-либо исторические оценки относительно казахской государственности, тогда наши перестанут к вам лезть.
            1. avt
              avt 27 August 2013 12: 52 New
              0
              Quote: Essenger
              then ours will cease to climb to you.

              Ну положим итак лезть не будете ,от того что труба пониже и дым пожиже ,а кабы было иначе ,то не требовали бы ,,равноправия" .
      3. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 30 August 2013 14: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: MstislavHrabr
        Read carefully the history books in Kazakhstan on this infe several generations have already been brought up ... If the situation with historical education cannot be reversed ... We will become a nation of invaders, invaders and enslavers for all the peoples of the former USSR ...

        What kind of school textbook on the history of Kazakhstan have you read?
  8. antibanukurayza
    antibanukurayza 26 August 2013 09: 19 New
    +9
    Personally, I, as a citizen of Kazakhstan, are against the appearance of American bases in our country. Against the Americans flew from their bases to bomb civilians, against the spread of Afghan drugs from there, drank our water, breathed our air and trampled on my land where my ancestors rested. If our bastiks and agashki give a weakness in this matter, the people will not forgive them.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 26 August 2013 10: 32 New
      +4
      Quote: antibanukuraza
      If our bastiks and agashki give a weakness in this matter, the people will not forgive them.

      But here you are clearly exaggerating, the people do not hate the United States so much as to rebel against Nazarbayev.
    2. Nursultan
      Nursultan 26 August 2013 10: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: antibanukuraza
      If our bastiks and agashki give a weakness in this matter, the people will not forgive them.


      He will forgive the people with gritted teeth, but he will forgive. people are used to the fact that bastiks and earthenware do not reckon with the people. for their value is only their welfare.
    3. Essenger
      26 August 2013 12: 37 New
      +6
      Quote: antibanukuraza
      If our bastiks and agashki give a weakness in this matter, the people will not forgive them.

      Do not exaggerate, the Kazakhs do not have any anti-Americanism.
  9. Nursultan
    Nursultan 26 August 2013 10: 32 New
    +3
    Министерство иностранных дел Казахстана не считает нужным комментировать слухи о якобы передислокации американской военной авиабазы "Манас" из Кыргызстана в Казахстан. Об этом в интервью корреспонденту Tengrinews.kz сообщил официальный представитель казахстанского внешнеполитического ведомства Жанболат Усенов.

    "Данная новость является неверной интерпретацией слов американского представителя. Ни о каких переговорах о переносе военной базы США из Кыргызстана в Казахстан нам неизвестно. В связи с чем, МИД Казахстана не считает нужным комментировать этот слух", - сказал Усенов.

    More details: http://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/midu-kazahstana-neizvestno-o-peregovorah-o-
    vozmojnom-perenose-aviabazyi-manas-240459 /
    Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to Tengrinews.kz


    Amer as always ahead of the planet. They didn’t even have time to discuss how they already say that their base will be there or there.
    1. Guun
      Guun 26 August 2013 11: 19 New
      +3
      This adder is not needed in Kazakhstan. The consequences will be, to put it mildly, not very pleasant - there is a risk that the level of terrorist attacks in Kazakhstan will increase, but we do not need this.
  10. Zymran
    Zymran 26 August 2013 11: 38 New
    +5
    Nowhere even the Americans themselves announced the transfer of the base to Kazakhstan. Try to find reverse proofs.
  11. smsk
    smsk 26 August 2013 11: 59 New
    +6
    This is just nonsense. Kazakhstan will not agree to a military base on its territory. Why then did Nazarbayev move the Eurasian Union to spoil relations with Russia at one point? For the sake of money, it won’t be any more, the price of the issue is not that big, the Nazarbayev clan already has enough money. And Putin clearly will not like this development of events, and Nazarbayev will not dare to go to the conflict and butt. No confirmation of the article, only rumors.
    1. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 26 August 2013 13: 10 New
      +3
      Of course nonsense. If Kazakhstan wanted a base, they would most likely speak out to leave it with us. Why substitute yourself if you can leave the base in place with the Kyrgyz?

      The most realistic option is Uzbekistan. And closer and politically more favorable.
  12. romb
    romb 26 August 2013 12: 36 New
    +7
    Honestly, for NATO, more precisely for the USA, the territory of Kazakhstan is a very tidbit. This territory will allow them to finally realize in practice their long-held dream of a full sea and continental blockade of the Russian Federation and China.
    In turn, if the political leadership of the Republic of Kazakhstan saw a vital need to deploy a NATO base (no matter under what sign and in what form) on its territory, then it would have long ago taken an appropriate decision. They would find a loophole on how to get around a particular legal norm restricting the possibility of deploying a foreign military contingent or a certain infrastructure on the territory of the Republic of Kazakhstan. But Kazakhstan is well aware that such an opportunity in itself is nothing more than a dangerous adventure, which is guaranteed to lead to a unilateral deterioration in relations with its neighbors - the Russian Federation and China. And if, moreover, it is taken into account that these countries are the second and third in their aggregate military power and are endowed with very serious financial and political opportunities, then this venture can generally turn Kazakhstan into a kind of first sacrificial ram in the games of the powers.
    In short, we will not have any NATO base in Kazakhstan.
  13. Hitrovan07
    Hitrovan07 26 August 2013 12: 42 New
    0
    But why there - to Ulyanovsk immediately. laughing
  14. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    NOBODY EXCEPT US 26 August 2013 13: 13 New
    0
    This is all the machinations of GDP and push the amers to Ulyanovsk and there are such prices that the US will go broke and drink ..... but in general we have many empty airfields ......
  15. Vtel
    Vtel 26 August 2013 13: 59 New
    0
    that entrenched in this country, the Americans can count on countering the integration processes of Astana with Moscow.


    In these matters, the crafty Zhidomassons have no equal, to divide and rule. Rates are rising, now the main thing is that none of us peck at this rotten bait - bucks.
  16. uizik
    uizik 26 August 2013 14: 28 New
    +2
    Article-opinion of a provocateur!
  17. saag
    saag 26 August 2013 14: 48 New
    0
    Yes, but the base in Aktau is like killing two birds with one stone - after all, in the world all these dances are around either oil or gas, recently - gas, and so the idea of ​​laying a gas pipeline bypassing Russia has not yet rested in Bose, and the American base in the Caspian it’s already serious, it’s also a possible cover for the gas pipeline, a springboard for a possible attack on Iran, well, Afghanistan, drugs, it’s necessary to bring drugs from there and distribute the campaign
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 30 August 2013 14: 51 New
      +1
      1) Is it necessary for pipelines to go from KZ through Russian territory? What else are we obliged to do?
      2) Do not cheat. There is no military base (in the usual sense) in the Caspian Sea and will not be. This is nothing more than a logistics hub through which American goods and troops will be withdrawn from Afghanistan to Western Europe. Hi yourself dumped down a narrow corridor. We are better. And we will contribute to the main conclusion of the amers from the region, and we’ll earn money from this money (this is not the main thing, of course).
      3) Covering the gas pipeline ??? Which then goes through Russia? This is the Jesuit logic of the Americans ... Like, we will die on a strange Kazakh land, if only the French and Russians are not deprived of gas.
      4) About the attack on Iran from Aktau - utter stupidity. Because no full-fledged military base is and will not be there.
      5) In Aktau to carry the Afghan gyrych by NATO aircraft - stupidity. This shnyaga and so gets to Kazakhstan by land, unfortunately. And to take her by plane to Kazakhstan means to make her expensive and uncompetitive. It’s cheaper to use traditional channels. It might be profitable to drive heroin to Germany by military transport aircraft, and to Kazakhstan it is already wasteful.