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The war in Syria to be! Here we go

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The war in Syria to be! Here we goTeam Gaza


And again in the air smell of chemistry. Chemistry of a big regional war with a taste of “anti-people” sarin, which has already replaced the rather outdated reasons for the impending war with Syria. Who already remembers how the claims of the West and its Middle Eastern allies began: support for anti-government rallies, demands for the leader of Syria to give more freedom to the people, stop the president’s wife to make luxury purchases ...

The essence of all these claims was reduced to one thing - the president should leave. But the president stayed. The requirements of the West fulfilled and even in parallel with varying success continued to tamp overseas militants throughout the Syrian Arab Republic.

Now, on the agenda is the frightened and too clumsy command of Gaza, which too clearly resembles Iraq ten years ago.

“In the UN furnace. In the furnace of these bureaucratic verbiage! ”Probably, this is how you can express the position of the United States in relation to the Syrian problem today. The US Secretary of Defense comes to the fore, announcing that he is waiting for only one thing - an order from the President “To bomb!”

In the fire of these bombings, all the arguments that the United States appeals today will dissolve. In the first place there will be only one goal - the expulsion or physical elimination of the recalcitrant leader of Syria. Too many similar examples in the last 15 years: Milosevic, Hussein, Gaddafi.

However, not all so simple. And the author of this opus took the liberty to fantasize a little, and what will turn the planned US event for the United States and its allies in the region.

Who for whom?

Apparently, the United States is planning to re-implement the Libyan scenario, the essence of which was to bombard key military and civilian objects and seize the capital of the state by special forces.

As seen from the latter NewsUS instructors have been training these units for the past six months. Created several camps in Jordan. The French media report that about a thousand "bearded graduates" trained by American instructors have already crossed the Syrian border.

With regard to the bombing, the United States, as in Libya, will again not be able to do without the support of its loyal allies in Europe and the Middle East.

Let's briefly list them: Great Britain, France, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Israel, Jordan.

On the other side of the scale are the allies of the legitimate president of Syria: Iran, Russia, Venezuela, China, Kurdish, Lebanese and Iraqi armed militias.

Let there be a fight!

Implications for the UK and France

In addition to diplomatic wrangling with Russia and China, the freezing of many bilateral treaties, the above-mentioned countries may face the problem of the return of many and many "bearded sons of the Fatherland." There are only about a thousand of them in Syria just now. And of course, it would be more profitable for the French and the British if such a contingent was dissolved in the fire of international intervention in Syria ... But, right there, the leaders of these states declare the need for military intervention in the Syrian conflict.

Good. The Syrian Arab Army will be eliminated. The Syrian government will be biased. And what next? That's right, international sponsors will block the cash infusions of the militants. Destroy them simply will be no one. So, it will be time to return home, to London, to Paris, to dozens of other European cities.

Radically-minded young people who know how to handle different types of weapons and even have sarin production technology in handicraft conditions, on the streets and in poor densely populated quarters of European capitals are the rosy dream of tolerant Europe of the 21 century Europe that survived the attacks in London, Madrid, last year's French shooting special forces. The sharp increase in the threat of a repetition of these events is a fact.

What can we say about the arrival in Europe of thousands of Syrian refugees. By the way about them.

Jordan

Briefly and clearly. A state with a population of six million people has already accepted about a million Syrian refugees on its territory. This situation is extremely negative for the growth of social tension in Jordan, not to mention the cost of the treasury to maintain hundreds of thousands of people who do not work.

What will lead Jordan's armed intervention in the war in Syria? That's right, to a sharp increase in the flow of refugees to Jordan. And who knows how long the Jordanian treasury will last?


Turkey

The problem of the massive flow of Syrian refugees is also relevant for Turkey, the entire border area of ​​which has been turned into a mixture of refugee camps and camps for training and serving international terrorists.

This is clearly not to the liking of the local Turkish population. And in general, the majority of ordinary citizens of Turkey, whose hot temperament we had already met a month ago.

As far as socially explosive Turkey’s intervention is, it’s just scary to imagine if the whole Turkey boiled for about three weeks even because of possible cutting down of one city square.

Oh yes. Also the Kurdish problem. It so happened that Kurdish militias sometimes shoot or blow up Turkish border patrols. The latter, in response, carry out mass operations to clean up possible attackers. In general, the friendship does not work.

Mutual hostility will grow into what, if the Turkish government attacks the one who promised his own autonomy to several millions of Kurds, it is impossible to even imagine!

In addition to the revenge of the Kurdish militias, Turkey should be greatly concerned about the massive armed response of Syria. For boiling.

Israel

What threatens Israel? The refugees Transition of terrorists across the border in Israel. But besides this, there is also a massive rocket attack and terrorist attacks from not only Syria, but also from the fighters of the Lebanese Hezbal movement and, most importantly, from the only ally of Syria in the region - Iran.

Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

Well, here Iran should already enter the business with its numerous promises to cut off the Gulf of Hormuz, through which the above-mentioned states transport about half of the total oil and gas produced in these countries.

Iran in this case is simply nothing to lose. As mentioned above, Syria is the only ally of Iran in the region. The countries have concluded a joint defense agreement in the event of an attack on one of these countries.. Finally, the Iranian government must clearly realize that after the fall of Syria, it will be Iran’s turn.

USA

There are only economic strikes that will affect the United States to a much greater degree than the fighter brought down by the Syrian air defense or a terrorist attack on one of the American military bases.

Debt obligations to China, a quarter of the total oil supplied to the United States from Venezuela.

For a country in economic agony, such blows can be much worse, and more important than the possible benefits of the war with Syria.

RESULTS

The above analysis is extremely superficial. The main consequences for the participants of the attacking side will be millions of Syrian refugees, possible popular unrest within the participating countries, economic strikes performed by Russia, China and Venezuela. Well, and in detail: a retaliatory strike by the armed forces of Syria and their allies, numerous terrorist attacks, as well as a mass exodus on the homes of foreign fighters who fought in Syria.

The author deliberately left open the question of the role of Russia in all this mess. The Libyan variant is possible, when the Russian leader behaved worse than a rag. The repetition of the South Ossetian variant, connected with the direct military intervention of the Russian army, is possible, but only one! The lack of a common border in Syria and Russia.

Possible variant of Iraqi neutrality and non-interference.

Who knows? Perhaps all this tension, as before, will be reduced to the next verbal battles of diplomats and a return to Quo's diplomatic status.

In the meantime, let's analyze the current situation.
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  1. Docklishin
    Docklishin 26 August 2013 08: 10
    66
    It feels like the world is going crazy. That is WHERE the French, British and others climb .... The question is how we can restrain Western aggression against Syria? I’m quite serious, because I don’t have any healthy thoughts request . with 300 whether it is or not. Heavy weapons were not supplied. But political pressure by blocking resolutions in the UN Security Council ... they don’t listen. Where is China? Why is Iran silent? recourse Or something global really begins - debts are sometimes written off sysh as it should ...
    1. Romn
      Romn 26 August 2013 08: 21
      29
      Personally, I’m not very pleased to see what is happening, it’s the United States that took offense because of Snowden and decided to show that they are the owners and that they want to do something !? Just take and start a war, because they are so hot-tempered and do not even hide behind especially excuses !? The British understandably, their entire history was against us, and right now the main mainstream. But in this whole picture, I personally do not see allies in Syria except Russia and Iran (although Iran, under the new president, is not so eager to fight, where is the promised army under Ahmadinijad to help Syria !?). And countries like Venezuela and China generally nervously smoke on the sidelines, China has never been able and will not fight, especially from the United States, they can talk and talk there.
      In general, the picture is very muddy, for some reason it seems that the United States has seriously gathered to fight, but Russia cannot and will not stand aside ...
      1. Garyk701
        Garyk701 26 August 2013 14: 34
        +9
        Russia's main ally is Onishchenko! He urgently needs to check the space contracts of Russia and the United States, if the United States does not provide evidence that they do not take dangerous bacteria into space, then these contracts must be urgently suspended until the Syrian issue is resolved.
        1. Garyk701
          Garyk701 27 August 2013 06: 14
          +4
          The main news on Rambler: after all, Russia has changed its mind about selling rocket engines to amers ... Now let’s fly into space on brooms, you can run right from aircraft carriers.
      2. APOCALIPTIC
        APOCALIPTIC 26 August 2013 19: 01
        17 th
        [quote = Romn] We’ve seriously gathered in the fight, but Russia cannot and will not stand aside ...
        Russ has merged Syria as well as Serbs and so on and so forth
        Lavrov: Russia will not enter into a military conflict over Syria
        Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/08/26/1168459.html laughing
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 26 August 2013 19: 10
          +6
          Quote: APOCALIPTIC
          Russ has merged Syria as well as Serbs and so on and so forth

          Do not wishful thinking.
          By the way, having seen the flag of registration of your entrance, I remembered

          Ss-adviser! Aren't you afraid to be next?
          First, put things in order, and then climb with tips ...
          1. APOCALIPTIC
            APOCALIPTIC 26 August 2013 22: 03
            16 th
            And what are you arrows translate? Well, then declare here that your mid (Lavrov) is lying. Or how? Only without power there is about London, Zimbava and so on. In other words, you yap
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 27 August 2013 18: 15
              +7
              Quote: APOCALIPTIC
              Well, declare here that your mid (Lavrov) is lying.

              Mmm.
              Somehow clumsy Your posts are being written. It seems you forget to distort the text not respected troll .
              Yes, regarding your question, not respected APOCALIPTIC (one nickname, what does it mean, have you stopped taking the prescribed medicine?), you need to understand that you are not there!
              It is more clear to say?
              Learn trolling from members of the forum with skulls on shoulder straps, otherwise even for your troll the tribe is uncomfortable, babble, not trolling!
              But back to the topic _ Lavrov, in my opinion, only said that Russia will not start the third world!
              Meaning?
              After all, from all the countries where he wonА NATO go coffins back to your countries, from everywhere you are shedding your tails with your tail!
              Recently laid out statistics of losses in Afghanistan, but there is still in Iraq!
              In general _ Forward
              a flag in your hands a drum around your neck an ax in the back and an electric train towards

            2. Docent1984
              Docent1984 28 August 2013 13: 06
              +3
              You, half-venerable, should learn Russian. In the meantime, let me explain - the phrase "to fight over Syria" does not carry any ambiguity. Now, if Syria starts a war, we will not fight because of it. But if you and the United States start it, then BECAUSE of you we will quite fight for Syria. Do you see the difference?
          2. RUS-36
            RUS-36 28 August 2013 00: 05
            +2
            And that is not so. Serbs were given to the Amer to be torn apart ... Syria next 99%
        2. Garyk701
          Garyk701 27 August 2013 07: 50
          +3
          No one was going to fight in Russia. You can look for non-military leverage. In an extreme case, information will leak that the Syrians saw ordinary Club-S in ordinary sea containers, but who exactly and where ... ??? And to lose an entire aircraft carrier or AUG due to some kind of Syria ...
          So the question of the beginning of the operation can be postponed due to various sudden pop-up circumstances ...
        3. vladkust
          vladkust 27 August 2013 12: 44
          +2
          Learn the Russian language, it will come in handy soon when you scream at the top of your tongue, give up! Don’t shoot !!! soldier
        4. IGS
          IGS 31 August 2013 09: 31
          0
          Woke up ... coffee ... read your favorite portal, we can argue with someone)) ... Saturday ... well. No damn it is a tolling miracle ... like a fly in coffee. Well, who called you here? and? Troll you suck. Now you’ll start to compose disgustingly badly, read Pushkin’s fairy tales. How did you compose ah? Has become a classic. You now think that they will spread links, facts, argue with you ... Nope. I woke up with my beloved woman, I’m fine, but your wife didn’t take Viagra for the night? We didn’t surrender or surrender anyone ... surrendered your henchmen. In your words there is some truth, we almost pr..li ... if you come to your senses in time. And here you are yours recently, but forever. Why? Yes, on the couch, because I RUSSIAN want so much, like 80% of those present here. So he went to his place with his amoebotolerant prime minister, he can only build our eyes and blush like a red maiden. And my wife poured a new coffee for me, having washed the cup well.
      3. Pimply
        Pimply 26 August 2013 19: 34
        +6
        What does Snowden have to do with it? The states are trying not to be late for the forward train, where the drivers are not them.
      4. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 29 August 2013 17: 28
        0
        Snowden was dragged to something. Obama announced Syria's military intervention in the case of the use of chemical weapons, when no one had yet heard of Snowden!
    2. Civil
      Civil 26 August 2013 08: 25
      80
      If, I repeat, if the USA and K attack Syria, the result is as simple as 3 penny:
      1. A pro-Western weak government.
      2. Sluggish civil war.
      3. PMO closes in tartus.
      4. Both China and Russia, due to economic circumstances, will put up with the loss of the ally.
      5. All.
      1. Trailer
        26 August 2013 08: 27
        0
        Quote: Civil
        4. Both China and Russia, due to economic circumstances, will put up with the loss of the ally.


        Here, here is the hope for sanctions against American producers and debtors.
        1. Denis
          Denis 26 August 2013 08: 34
          87
          Quote: Karavan
          Here, here is the hope for sanctions against American producers and debtors.

          What kind of nonsense, who in general, after the US attack on Syria, will take Russia seriously?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 08: 44
            27
            Quote: Denis
            What kind of nonsense, who in general, after the US attack on Syria, will take Russia seriously?

            Delirium by type - you need to break all you write! Specifically, I ask you what Russia can do now, at the diplomatic level we have already done everything we could. Offer to join the warrior on the side of Syria? Then this is world 3 with all that it implies. The world does not burn for long and a lot of mind is not needed.
            1. Trailer
              26 August 2013 08: 48
              21
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              . Offer to join the warrior on the side of Syria?
              Do you propose to let the bearded Wahhabism get out of Syria?
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 09: 04
                20
                Quote: Karavan
                Do you propose to let the bearded Wahhabism get out of Syria?

                He had long crawled out of Syria, and it was not in Syria that he was born.
                1. habalog
                  habalog 27 August 2013 22: 54
                  +4
                  The militants in our territory are not the worst that can happen.

                  Let's pay attention to the spiritual clash on the Syrian battlefield. Honor and Courage against greed and cowardice. And this battle also went beyond Syria. And in our minds he goes! What will we do if Honor, Courage, Courage, all that on which the generations of our people stood, what if they fall? How will we live with this? The betrayal of these concepts is the desecration of the affairs of all our ancestors, who conquered our present with their lives and death.

                  Now information pressure will only increase. They will frighten, frighten. Either live without honor, yielding, or stand your ground for death.
              2. Sandov
                Sandov 26 August 2013 11: 10
                +6
                Quote: Karavan
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                . Offer to join the warrior on the side of Syria?
                Do you propose to let the bearded Wahhabism get out of Syria?


                I propose to forward them to amers as a gift, even with personal weapons. Wait for the repetition of September 11 at the amers. Terroist number 1 P I N D O S T A N, their students and tear. There will be no sympathy for the amers.
              3. baton140105
                baton140105 26 August 2013 16: 34
                +4
                Moreover, this "bearded Wahhabism" can easily reignite the Caucasus (it is necessary to put these monsters somewhere after Syria, not to return them really back to gayrope). They will pass through Georgia to Dagestan and Chechnya and greetings to Vova from Barak ... Previous wars will seem like flowers. At the same time, you can again visit South Ossetia (not necessarily, of course, but ...) in the hope that Russia will not have enough forces on all fronts ... In general, it is better to act now by all possible methods (I hope that there will be enough political and economic ones), then it will be too late and not before that, again the Olympics are on the nose .. And if you disrupt it, you can fly with a bunch of billions thrown into it ...
                1. alone
                  alone 26 August 2013 18: 34
                  +3
                  can through Central Asia. they can easily attack the 201st.
              4. Alex Nick
                Alex Nick 26 August 2013 22: 42
                +4
                Wahhabis pawns, here others rule.
            2. Denis
              Denis 26 August 2013 08: 49
              39
              I’m answering you specifically, Russia will not do anything. You can fight with the wrong hands, you could arm Syria, as the United States arms Israel.
              1. Trailer
                26 August 2013 08: 58
                10
                Quote: Denis
                I’m answering you specifically, Russia will not do anything.
                Specifically, only the president of Russia can do this. Here I left open the question of the nature of Russia's participation in the future mess. Thank you for your opinion.
                1. antiaircrafter
                  antiaircrafter 26 August 2013 10: 21
                  12
                  Quote: Karavan
                  I left open the question of the nature of Russia's participation in the future mess.

                  In the case of a large kirdyk, Russia may accept the exiled Syrian government and evacuate the remnants of the Syrian frame to its territory.
                  Assad should take care of this in advance - appoint a successor and send to Russia + administration is needed, etc.
                  Russia and other allies should recognize this government as legal.
                  To some extent, these actions will make sense the physical elimination of Assad himself.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 10: 31
                    +7
                    Quote: antiaircrafter
                    In the case of a large kirdyk, Russia may accept the exiled Syrian government and evacuate the remnants of the Syrian frame to its territory.

                    And how will we evacuate citizens of Russia, of whom there are several thousand ?????
                    1. antiaircrafter
                      antiaircrafter 26 August 2013 10: 53
                      +3
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      And how will we evacuate citizens of Russia, of whom there are several thousand ?????

                      Here Shoigu MO with the Ministry of Emergencies will unite and everything will be in chocolate.
                      1. antiaircrafter
                        antiaircrafter 26 August 2013 11: 22
                        19
                        Nothing prevents right now in the same Tartus to deploy a collection point for evacuated citizens and take them back with BDK return flights, or charter civil vessels.
                        At the same time, there are reasons to deploy an air defense group, declare a no-fly zone and shoot down everything that flies.
                      2. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 26 August 2013 15: 12
                        13
                        Quote: antiaircrafter
                        nothing prevents already now in the same Tartus to deploy a collection point for evacuated citizens and take them back with BDK return flights, or charter civil vessels.
                        At the same time, there are reasons to deploy an air defense group, declare a no-fly zone and shoot down everything that flies.

                        Good decision. Logical. There was a precedent in Vietnam when the amers did not dare to bomb Soviet ships under unloading in Haiphong.
                        Well ... and if some "ToporoGavk" deviates from the goal - the carrier of this weapon will be destroyed - to protect the citizens of Russia is the direct duty of the army and the navy.
                      3. ksan
                        ksan 26 August 2013 17: 42
                        11
                        stalkerwalker NO Today, 15:12 PM ↑

                        Quote: antiaircrafter
                        nothing prevents already now in the same Tartus to deploy a collection point for evacuated citizens and take them back with BDK return flights, or charter civil vessels.
                        At the same time, there are reasons to deploy an air defense group, declare a no-fly zone and shoot down everything that flies.

                        Good decision. Logical. There was a precedent in Vietnam when the amers did not dare to bomb Soviet ships under unloading in Haiphong.
                        Yes, with one caveat - "Soviet ships under unloading." The UNION is not Russia. The Union was ready and could fight with the WHOLE WORLD, Russia, unfortunately, does not have such power.
                      4. alone
                        alone 26 August 2013 18: 38
                        +8
                        Quote: ksan
                        . The Union was ready and could fight with the WORLD


                        the union could not only fight with the whole world, but also defeat it!
                      5. grafrozow
                        grafrozow 26 August 2013 19: 11
                        +4
                        Quote: lonely
                        . The Union was ready and could fight with the WORLD
                        Omar, I respect you, but remember how it ended — We will destroy the whole world of violence to the ground, and then we will see our new world ... How did it end?
                      6. alone
                        alone 26 August 2013 21: 18
                        +6
                        graph! I also respect you as a direct and honest person! I know how it ended. Today's Russia is not the USSR. I therefore wrote so that the patriots understood what was happening. They are not drawn into a military adventure because of Syria. This is unacceptable. The USSR could I’d allow myself such liberties. Russia cannot do this and honestly does not want to. If we would like to do all this long ago. It’s best to work and live, it’s better to die for your Fatherland than to be removed in a foreign land in order to be forgotten. hi
                      7. chehywed
                        chehywed 26 August 2013 21: 32
                        +1
                        Quote: lonely
                        Russia cannot and honestly does not want to. If we would like to do all of this long ago

                        Lavrov has already warned amers that in the event of a direct attack on Syria there will be unpredictable consequences for the entire Middle East. I understand that the 3-th World will not be yet. But China is silent about something ... belay
                      8. alone
                        alone 26 August 2013 21: 48
                        +2
                        China is interesting only one thing. how to invest in post-war Syria. I always wrote here that it is better to have an open enemy than to have China in allies.))
                      9. aksakal
                        aksakal 30 August 2013 03: 29
                        0
                        Quote: chehywed
                        Avrov already warned the amers that in the event of a direct attack on Syria there would be unpredictable consequences for the entire Middle East. I understand that there will be no 3rd World War. But China is silent.

                        - I mean, Russia is not going to fight with anyone, but Lavrov also said about the fundamental unpredictability of the consequences of the strike on Syria. Now we are logically linking - we are not going, that is, we are not planning and we do not want -> but we do not know how it will actually turn out, it may be so that we will be eagerly doing what we did not intend to do and did not plan.
                        Diplomatic language is a separate art. It must be said so that later he himself could beautifully interpret and interpret his words in any development of the situation.
                        And yet - okromya Syrians no one will protect Syria! But no one canceled all-round informational, moral, political, reconnaissance, resource, economic and MILITARY-TECHNICAL (together with military experts in one bottle), and it is quite possible to render it to the Syrians in full scale. If the Syrians are as diligent as the Vietnamese in protecting their Homeland, there will be a result. Tested in the 60s of the last century!
                        It is also verified that no informational, moral, political, intelligence, resource, economic or MILITARY (together with military specialists in one bottle) help will help if your name is a coward and you have a hare’s heart. This is about the Egyptians of the 70s, if anything, the very ones who ran to hide during the first shots in the desert, but were afraid to fly on planes (Mubarak’s memoirs)!
                        This is all an analogy with raising a son. Does someone regularly pound and beat his son? You can go out and peace that baby that your son is offending. And you can teach your son to BE STRONG, that's all
                    2. grafrozow
                      grafrozow 26 August 2013 21: 38
                      +2
                      Quote: lonely
                      .Today Russia is not the USSR. I therefore wrote so that the patriots understood what it was. They weren’t getting into a military adventure because of Syria. This is unacceptable. The USSR could allow such liberties. Russia cannot and honestly admit it wants. if you would like to do all this long ago
                      The country will not pull the second Afghanistan, this is also understood in our government, but they are trying to make a good face with a bad game, such as 2 aces on a minuscule, not the end of the game.
                      Quote: lonely
                      It’s best to work and live, even if you have to die for your Fatherland, than to clean up in a foreign land in order to be forgotten.
                      +++ Who now remembers our Heroes of the war in Korea, Vietnam, Egypt, Laos, Cuba ..? We live today today, which was yesterday, we don’t remember. The trouble however.
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 26 August 2013 14: 13
          +6
          Quote: antiaircrafter
          from Shoigu MO with the Ministry of Emergencies will unite and everything will be in chocolate.

          Against the background of rumors about the unification of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Emergencies, this will be an enchanting sight!
          After all, the evacuation must be carried out as soon as possible, that’s what they’ll send
        3. nycsson
          nycsson 26 August 2013 14: 36
          +1
          Quote: Cynic
          Against the background of rumors about the unification of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Emergencies, this will be an enchanting sight!

          How long have such rumors been around?
        4. Cynic
          Cynic 26 August 2013 17: 43
          +1
          Quote: nycsson
          How long have such rumors been around?

          Yes, it seems from the 22 of this month
          To reorganize the EMERCOM of Russia and subordinate it to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation - the current head of the military department Sergey Shoigu made this proposal to the president. A source in the Ministry of Defense said that a decision on this issue will be made after analyzing the actions of the army and the Ministry of Emergencies, which are involved in the elimination of the consequences of the elements in the Far East.

          wink
        5. nycsson
          nycsson 26 August 2013 18: 26
          +1
          Quote: Cynic
          Yes, it seems from the 22 of this month

          The most important thing is that Moscow Region is not connected to the Ministry of Emergencies! wassat wassat wassat
        6. Cynic
          Cynic 26 August 2013 18: 55
          +2
          Quote: nycsson
          The most important thing is that the MoD is not connected to the Ministry of Emergencies

          In life, Moscow Region is now in the wings of the Ministry of Emergencies. It seems we’re not fighting? Till .
          I think Shoigu feel sorry for his former office.
    3. grafrozow
      grafrozow 26 August 2013 19: 16
      +2
      Quote: nycsson
      How long have such rumors been around?
      I’ll ask grandmothers near the entrance tomorrow. fellow wassat
  2. grafrozow
    grafrozow 26 August 2013 19: 02
    0
    Quote: antiaircrafter
    Here Shoigu MO with the Ministry of Emergencies will unite and everything will be in chocolate.
    Plus Elena Gromova will write what and how to do.
  3. alone
    alone 26 August 2013 22: 31
    0
    wassat Well, yes, she will tell us for sure wassat
  • PSih2097
    PSih2097 26 August 2013 13: 20
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And how will we evacuate citizens of Russia, of whom there are several thousand ?????

    Seriously? and you don’t want a million (after all, not only Russians, but also their families will have to be evacuated)?
  • nycsson
    nycsson 26 August 2013 14: 24
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And how will we evacuate citizens of Russia, of whom there are several thousand ?????

    A few tens of thousands! belay
  • Sandov
    Sandov 26 August 2013 11: 13
    +5
    Quote: antiaircrafter
    In the case of a large kirdyk, Russia may accept the government of Syria in exile

    By the way, this is a thought, the government in exile, ame6ry die from annoyance.
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 26 August 2013 19: 19
      +1
      Quote: Sandov
      By the way, this is a thought, the government in exile, ame6ry die from annoyance.
      They will not die, on the contrary they will be happy, we will feed this government.
  • Scoun
    Scoun 26 August 2013 12: 02
    +8
    Quote: antiaircrafter
    In the case of a large kirdyk, Russia may accept the exiled Syrian government and evacuate the remnants of the Syrian frame to its territory.

    Well, why bother with Russia so indiscriminately everywhere? through each comment Russia Russia ... maybe we will be consistent?
    1. Syria - Iran
    2. Iran - China
    3 China -
    and between these countries there is still an additional sequence such as
    Iran - Hormuz - United Arab Emirates - Qatar.
    Iran - Turkey - Caucasus
    The Caucasus - Russia and so on ... the whole region can blaze, and beyond it the whole Sharik.
    and only then can we talk about Russia ... nefig run ahead of everyone and tear a vest on himself.
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 26 August 2013 19: 25
      +2
      Quote: Scoun
      Well, why bother with Russia so indiscriminately everywhere? through each comment Russia Russia ..

      The author asked the question - what can Russia do?
      As be and answer it.
  • Su24
    Su24 26 August 2013 12: 05
    11
    Quote: antiaircrafter
    Quote: Karavan
    I left open the question of the nature of Russia's participation in the future mess.

    In the case of a large kirdyk, Russia may accept the exiled Syrian government and evacuate the remnants of the Syrian frame to its territory.
    Assad should take care of this in advance - appoint a successor and send to Russia + administration is needed, etc.
    Russia and other allies should recognize this government as legal.
    To some extent, these actions will make sense the physical elimination of Assad himself.


    This is a bad omen to keep governments in exile, money is guzzling, and zero sense. They are addicted to this in the West. It’s better to rest against the horn and prevent an invasion.
  • alone
    alone 26 August 2013 18: 36
    +2
    Can you indicate the route of the evacuation of the Syrian army to Russia?
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 26 August 2013 19: 46
      +3
      Quote: lonely
      Can you indicate the route of the evacuation of the Syrian army to Russia?

      Routes will indicate specially trained people.
      No opportunity - then no opportunity.
      The army will die heroically in its own land.
      But for what purpose you are interested in routes it is not clear.
      1. alone
        alone 26 August 2013 20: 16
        +1
        the only one you can evacuate is Assad and his family. But the army will have to leave. it's almost impossible. that’s why I asked
  • grafrozow
    grafrozow 26 August 2013 18: 58
    +2
    Quote: antiaircrafter
    In the case of a large kirdyk, Russia may accept the exiled Syrian government and evacuate the remnants of the Syrian frame to its territory.
    Dear, who will finance this government in exile, the budget of the Russian Federation? What will the remnants of the Syrian "Ramia" do on our territory, sow corn? Will they do "Gop Stop", a little hemorrhoid with their Caucasus? What are we thinking about?
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 26 August 2013 19: 31
      +2
      Quote: grafrozow
      Who will finance this government in exile, the budget of the Russian Federation?

      Syria's gold reserves can also be evacuated.
      Quote: grafrozow
      What will the remnants of the Syrian "Ramia" do on our territory, sow corn?

      Yes, even bearded in the Caucasus to drive.
      Although the channel to dig the Caspian - the Black Sea.
      Well, they’re not needed - they will die heroes on their land.
      I do not insist on mandatory evacuation.
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 26 August 2013 21: 51
        +1
        Quote: antiaircrafter
        Syria's gold reserves can also be evacuated.
        Can you tell me what this "gold reserve" looks like?
        Quote: antiaircrafter
        Yes, even bearded in the Caucasus to drive.
        Although the channel to dig the Caspian - the Black Sea.

        With the bearded in the Caucasus, they will smoke the "pipe of peace", but the channel already exists, Volga-Don.
      2. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 26 August 2013 22: 57
        +2
        Quote: grafrozow
        Can you tell me what this "gold reserve" looks like?

        No I can not.
        Do you have data on its complete absence?
        Quote: grafrozow
        With the bearded in the Caucasus, they will smoke the "pipe of peace"

        Will you bring a light?
        Quote: grafrozow
        and the channel is already there, Volga-Don.

        Two is better than one.
      3. grafrozow
        grafrozow 26 August 2013 23: 16
        0
        Quote: antiaircrafter
        Do you have data on its complete absence?
        Swiss banks do not give out their secrets.
        Quote: antiaircrafter
        Will you bring a light?
        From the "poplar" will be smoked.
        Quote: antiaircrafter
        Two is better than one.
        Excess horseradish is not a hindrance. So how do you understand?
      4. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 26 August 2013 23: 38
        +3
        Quote: grafrozow
        Excess horseradish is not a hindrance.

        This is what you want. Everyone is responsible for his ass.
        Only chur without propaganda!
      5. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2013 02: 06
        +2
        Quote: grafrozow
        Swiss banks do not give out their secrets.
        That was true 15 years ago
  • I'm Russian
    I'm Russian 26 August 2013 10: 39
    +2
    I agree with Denis: we cannot defeat the bearded in our country, we should not even think about Syria. The Bear and Volodya will make noise and there will be silence, especially over the past 20 years Russia has surrendered all its "allies."
  • alone
    alone 26 August 2013 18: 35
    +7
    no one will start 3MV because of Syria
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 09: 03
    +8
    Quote: Denis
    could arm Syria

    Russia lacks the strength to confront the US and NATO, and what can Syria do, even if armed?
    1. Denis
      Denis 26 August 2013 09: 11
      21
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      and what can Syria do, even if armed?

      Deal significant damage to aggressors.
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 26 August 2013 11: 15
        15
        Quote: Denis
        Deal significant damage to aggressors.


        To inflict such losses from which the amers lose all desire to rob on the high road.
      2. Patriot8482
        Patriot8482 26 August 2013 21: 06
        +3
        I completely agree with you. Plus, I will add: "There are many who want to kill for money, but there are no fools to die for money." Since NATO's "army" only knows how to kill, the war in Syria, where it is necessary to die, will seem like a very bad idea to the Amerovites. But the Syrian army is very ready to die for their homeland, so the chances of Syria are very good.
        1. grafrozow
          grafrozow 26 August 2013 21: 57
          -3
          Quote: Patriot8482
          I completely agree with you. Plus, I will add: "There are many who want to kill for money, but there are no fools to die for money."
          Do you relate yourself to whom, to those who wish, or who not?
    2. Papakiko
      Papakiko 26 August 2013 09: 34
      19
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Russia lacks the strength to oppose the US and NATO

      It’s not mean to admit it, but that’s how our affairs are.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      and what can Syria do, even if armed?

      "Sell" your mortal body at such a price that those at the helm in the "golden billion" think 100500 times how much it is needed and what it might cost.
    3. smart ass
      smart ass 26 August 2013 12: 22
      +2
      Let me disagree with you, NATO is essentially a bunch of jackals ... And what can jackals do against a bear ??
      1. Jin
        Jin 26 August 2013 14: 00
        +8
        Quote: Clever man
        And what can jackals do against a bear ??


        Unfortunately, the bears were poisoned by dogs and dogs ... how sad it is (((
        1. Prorox
          Prorox 26 August 2013 16: 04
          +5
          There is one thing, BUT. Dogs cannot kill a bear, the hunter is needed and is rather quick. Have you ever seen what happens to dogs during the persecution of the toes, if something went wrong.
    4. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 26 August 2013 12: 59
      +4
      do we oppose them?
      can I find out where and when?
      maybe in South Ossetia?
    5. Jin
      Jin 26 August 2013 13: 59
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Russia lacks the strength to confront the US and NATO, and what can Syria do, even if armed?


      Sasha, I can drink a lot of gallons of blood, do a lot of millions of damage, I want the mattresses to get into the blood bath ... that they would wash themselves with their blood, for the whole world lawlessness.
    6. nycsson
      nycsson 26 August 2013 14: 39
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Russia does not have enough strength to oppose the US and NATO,

      Where did they go? It was necessary to build up strength all these years, and not engage in nonsense.
      By the way, Alexander! Here are links to ratify START-2.
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/0411_2.shtml
      http://www.utro.ru/articles/politics/2000/04/14/200004140336111154.shtml
      http://www.ng.ru/world/2000-04-15/1_snv.html
      http://www.1tv.ru/news/social/117478
      Enlighten yourself ....... hi
  • Luger
    Luger 26 August 2013 09: 12
    13
    I agree 100%! When they had a chance to drag in defensive weapons, they missed it (I won’t be surprised if our GDP was promised not to attack Syria, but he believed), now it’s too late, the train left.
    1. igor67
      igor67 26 August 2013 09: 43
      +1
      Quote: Luger
      I agree 100%! When they had a chance to drag in defensive weapons, they missed it (I won’t be surprised if our GDP was promised not to attack Syria, but he believed), now it’s too late, the train left.

      Why do I think that they promised not to boycott the Olympics, not a lot of money on investments in it,
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 09: 56
        11
        Hi Igor!
        Quote: igor67
        Why do I think that they promised not to boycott the Olympics,

        Yes, the Olympics have nothing to do with it, they will boycott and go with them. Not that scale and shitty in this case they will do, only to themselves.
        1. igor67
          igor67 26 August 2013 10: 07
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Hi Igor!
          Quote: igor67
          Why do I think that they promised not to boycott the Olympics,

          Yes, the Olympics have nothing to do with it, they will boycott and go with them. Not that scale and shitty in this case they will do, only to themselves.

          Hi San, I don’t know! It’s too expensive both the Olympics and the cancellation of Syria’s debt, and then to lose, because it falls on ordinary people, taxpayers, and the oil industry traders
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 10: 33
            15
            Quote: igor67
            because it falls on ordinary people, a taxpayer

            Igor, how will it financially affect the fact that the United States will not go to the Olympics? Yes, they do not care about them, there will be less trash in Russia. Now the question is more expensive than money. There are many of our citizens in Syria, and this is another story.
          2. igor67
            igor67 26 August 2013 10: 41
            +8
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: igor67
            because it falls on ordinary people, a taxpayer

            Igor, how will it financially affect the fact that the United States will not go to the Olympics? Yes, they do not care about them, there will be less trash in Russia. Now the question is more expensive than money. There are many of our citizens in Syria, and this is another story.

            At the expense of the Games, there not only amers but also other financial countries can subscribe, but okay with that, about citizens, the main ones are women, in my opinion, a dozen, if not a lot more, thousands of Syrian cadets who were married, just to blame the Union of Russia, and if the government so much wanted to protect them, then in Tartus there would be no BDK, but something more serious,
          3. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 12: 01
            +4
            Quote: igor67
            At the expense of the Games, there not only amers but also other financial countries can subscribe,

            Well, subscribe and what will change? Igor, in this matter they are completely defeated.
            Quote: igor67
            , and if the government so much wanted to protect them, then in Tartus there would be no BDK, but something more serious,

            If the government does not protect them, then such a government is worthless.
          4. nycsson
            nycsson 26 August 2013 14: 55
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            If the government does not protect them, then such a government is worthless.

            Our government is worthless without it.
          5. Pimply
            Pimply 26 August 2013 19: 46
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well, subscribe and what will change? Igor, in this matter they are completely defeated.

            Sasha, forgive me, but these are hats.
          6. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 05: 02
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            Sasha, I'm sorry

            Forgive winked
            Quote: Pimply
            but these are caps

            Hats ??? Eugene, forgive me, but believe me, they don’t give a damn what Amers will come up with, generally!
    2. a52333
      a52333 26 August 2013 12: 20
      +4
      The Olympics are not the worst. The worst thing:
      a) loss of confidence in the Russian Federation (they forgot about Venezuela right away), who will talk to us at all, if we give our friends in this way.
      b) Qatar - Turkey oil pipeline. with all the consequences.
      My opinion is to go to the end, put Peter the Great + Moscow + nuclear submarines there. Veto we + China.
    3. Revolver
      Revolver 26 August 2013 17: 41
      +1
      Quote: a52333
      My opinion is to go to the end, put Peter the Great + Moscow + nuclear submarines there.

      Quote: Evgenij Evtushenko, music by Eduard Kolmanovskogo
      Do Russian wars want to happen?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU54x55AJUg
    4. Pimply
      Pimply 26 August 2013 19: 52
      -3
      Quote: a52333
      a) loss of confidence in the Russian Federation (they forgot about Venezuela right away), who will talk to us at all, if we give our friends in this way.

      For starters, there are no friends in politics. There are allies.
      Secondly, the allies - this or that benefit. In strategy, tactics, etc.
      China, investing money and influence - receives the return handsomely, the USA, France, England - as well. Russia, investing, follows the path of the USSR - big expenses with a minimal chance of getting a return. And this is bad because it is inefficient.
    5. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 26 August 2013 19: 59
      +9
      Quote: Pimply
      Russia, investing, follows the path of the USSR - big expenses with a minimal chance of getting a return.

      You have slipped into the American worldview - the main profit, goods - money, profit. The worldview of the Russian people is built on other concepts, first of all, Conscience! Honor, decency, friendship are not measured by money!
      Therefore, the West hates us, and we beat and will beat, while we live with these concepts!
    6. Pimply
      Pimply 26 August 2013 23: 02
      0
      Quote: S_mirnov
      The outlook of the Russian people is based on other concepts, first of all, Conscience! Honor, decency, friendship are not measured by money!

      Do not rush in big words. The reality is that you can’t just spend without getting anything in return. Syria has cost Russia $ 14 billion in recent years. Under such conditions, anyone will be friends. Which in general was.
      And usually the state has goals, and not hectic fiddling "should be annoying mattress makers."
    7. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 26 August 2013 23: 30
      +1
      In contrast to England, Soviet policy was not based on the robbery of colonies, but on the development of the Union republics at the expense of the center. And during the Second World War, this policy responded with a unanimous patriotic impulse that had taken all Europe! With the exception of some minorities who have suffered well-deserved punishment.
    8. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 02: 09
      -1
      Quote: S_mirnov
      In contrast to England, Soviet policy was not based on the robbery of colonies, but on the development of the Union republics at the expense of the center. And during the Second World War, this policy responded with a unanimous patriotic impulse that had taken all Europe!

      And caps again
    9. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 27 August 2013 17: 22
      +1
      Quote: Pimply
      And caps again

      hats do not win the war! You are not a stupid guy, stop thinking in categories imposed on grief by "historians".
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 26 August 2013 12: 52
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Igor, how will it financially affect the fact that the United States will not go to the Olympics?

    But no way! We have already ruined a lot of state money for the Olympics that is unnecessary for Russian citizens! Who was at the trough already limped. It doesn’t matter if that Olympiad is there - it won’t be, FSU!
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 13: 38
    +1
    Quote: S_mirnov
    But no way! We have already ruined a lot of state money for the Olympics that is unnecessary for Russian citizens!

    You don’t need her, so sit and don’t speak for everyone.
    Quote: S_mirnov
    It doesn’t matter if that Olympiad is there - it won’t be, FSU!

    Yes, I personally didn’t surprise you at all.
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 26 August 2013 20: 06
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    itata: S_mirnov
    But no way! We have already ruined a lot of state money for the Olympics that is unnecessary for Russian citizens!

    You don’t need her, so sit and don’t speak for everyone.

    Oh, comrade Romanov, you are terribly far from the People! Light everything from bucks, rave about fat.
    For the majority of Russians, the Olympics are much more important - so that they can repair the sewers in their city, water supply, storms, and that housing and communal services tariffs do not increase and fall! And so that gasoline does not rise in price!
    And if the Olympics are more important for our leaders, then they must be driven with a pissed broom !!!
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 04: 57
    0
    Quote: S_mirnov
    - then you need to drive them with a pissed broom !!!

    I think they will start with you! Niksson writes beside him, but often starts from facts, and you’ve just read MK and Vedomosti as a racket and nothing more. Spit in Russia for more important than the country itself. Cho didn’t throw mud at the planes, he fled here again
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 27 August 2013 17: 27
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Cho with planes didn’t throw mud at me, he fled here again

    Romanov, you are a maniac smile ! It seems like the hatred in you has eclipsed the mind. Reread my first comment about airplanes. I don’t affirm the truth of the duck there, but I say what needs to be done with corrupt journalists or with incompetent commanders-in-chief. And nothing more!
  • nycsson
    nycsson 26 August 2013 14: 43
    +2
    Quote: S_mirnov
    We have already ruined a lot of state money for the Olympics that is unnecessary for Russian citizens!

    I support. A feast among the plague. It would be better to build a couple of military-industrial complex factories for the production of arms and military equipment.
  • ksan
    ksan 26 August 2013 19: 14
    +2
    S_mirnov (2) SU Today, 12:52 PM ↑

    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Igor, how will it financially affect the fact that the United States will not go to the Olympics?

    But no way! We have already ruined a lot of state money for the Olympics that is unnecessary for Russian citizens! Who was at the trough already limped. It doesn’t matter if that Olympiad is there - it won’t be, FSU!
    The question of how much money "wasted" and the "unnecessary" Olympics are two different things. But the Olympics certainly need it and the country's prestige and infrastructure will remain.
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 26 August 2013 23: 04
    +2
    Quote: ksan
    But the Olympics certainly need this and the country's prestige and the entire infrastructure will remain.

    Stadiums will remain - the contents of which are unprofitable by definition. Much more needed are new plants that generate profit and provide jobs for the population!
  • Pimply
    Pimply 26 August 2013 19: 43
    0
    Trade Disruption
  • max702
    max702 26 August 2013 10: 41
    17
    What is expensive there? well spent 50-60 billion pieces of paper think! Do you really think that someone thinks that the Olympics will bring any money, and at least somehow it will pay for itself? They swelled into the Russky Island no less and what? Forgot and okay. and here at least something was done for the region and thanks for that, we could immediately withdraw money to the west and it’s the end, but if you throw the last ally in the BV it will bring losses in the trillions and you’ll have to fight at home ..
  • igor67
    igor67 26 August 2013 10: 53
    +8
    Quote: max702
    What is expensive there? well spent 50-60 billion pieces of paper think! Do you really think that someone thinks that the Olympics will bring any money, and at least somehow it will pay for itself? They swelled into the Russky Island no less and what? Forgot and okay. and here at least something was done for the region and thanks for that, we could immediately withdraw money to the west and it’s the end, but if you throw the last ally in the BV it will bring losses in the trillions and you’ll have to fight at home ..

    If we leave an ally ???? The war has been going on for two years now, what kind of assistance to the ally is it? Remember the Odyssey with helicopters ??? We drove through the "Arctic", etc.
  • max702
    max702 26 August 2013 19: 48
    +4
    That's it! ALLY! In two years, it’s time to understand that this is a reliable ally who, despite everything, has been kept in almost complete isolation for 2 years, and he can and should help! These are not other countries of the region who threw weapons at the first bunch and fled through the huts and auls, but really a real ally I will not be afraid and I’ll say the Middle East analogue of Vietnam that has become across the throat of the entire liberal world, this country and this people will not drop weapons and we don’t give them them spit on the help of our country and remember it for a long time if it survives, it's time for our leaders to understand if they want to continue to be at least a little bit independent in their affairs and actions, otherwise tomorrow the same thing for us and the guts of the leaders on the Kremlin wall is very likely the picture (either the bandits that come will be released. Either the people are unforgiving betrayal, or the owners overseas surrender).
  • atalef
    atalef 26 August 2013 20: 08
    +2
    Quote: max702
    That's it! ALLY! In two years, it’s time to already understand that this is a reliable ally who, in spite of everything, keeps the 2 of the year in almost complete isolation, and he can and should be helped

    So what is an ally? What is fighting the 2 of the year, so I will give you a dozen countries where they are fighting for the 10 of the year, do you write the same in the allies? The ally has forgiven more than 20 billion loans, he also scored these and I'm sorry, the ally with whom the goods turnover is just scanty (even an order of magnitude less than with Israel (as an example)) - so what is the ally of?

    Quote: max702
    but really a real ally I’m not afraid and I’ll say the Middle East analogue of Vietnam

    Well, this analogue has gone through all the 5 wars and lost territories laughing
  • alone
    alone 26 August 2013 20: 19
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    still typed and these sorry

    it will not be forgiven, but simply will not be returned.
  • Revolver
    Revolver 26 August 2013 21: 55
    -1
    Quote: atalef
    an ally with whom the goods turnover is just miserable (even an order of magnitude smaller than with Israel (as an example)) - so what is the ally then? ... he has spent all 5 wars ...

    And what kind of trade is possible with them? What do they produce besides bearded terrorist bastards? And what do they buy besides weapons, which they "cheat" with unenviable regularity?
  • Pimply
    Pimply 26 August 2013 19: 54
    -3
    Say you're ready to burn a hundred bucks. Yours, from the salary.
  • alone
    alone 26 August 2013 21: 23
    +3
    beat half a liter?)))))))))) wassat
  • Pimply
    Pimply 26 August 2013 19: 43
    0
    The boycott of the Olympics is a land. This is unlikely to go.
  • nycsson
    nycsson 26 August 2013 14: 30
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Yes, the Olympics have nothing to do with it, they will boycott and go with them. Not that scale and shitty in this case they will do, only to themselves.

    Well yes. If this shushera does not trample us ...
  • gorsten79
    gorsten79 26 August 2013 15: 47
    +5
    If I don’t confuse anything, the country boycotting the Olympic Games is never invited to them anymore. Now it’s so. Let’s boycott it. Especially Americans who will do worse.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 26 August 2013 15: 58
      -2
      Most likely, this is not true infa. The thing is that the games are held for the contributions of the participating countries. Each participating country pays some money.
  • d_trader
    d_trader 26 August 2013 11: 30
    10
    Quote: Luger
    I agree 100%! When they had a chance to drag in defensive weapons, they missed it (I won’t be surprised if our GDP was promised not to attack Syria, but he believed), now it’s too late, the train left.

    In the midst of the Syrian crisis, Russian journalists met in Damascus with President Bashar Assad.

    “I want to say that all the concluded contracts with Russia are being implemented. And neither the crisis nor the pressure of the United States, Europe and the Gulf countries prevented their implementation. Russia supplies Syria with what is required to protect it, and to protect its people. When a country's security is weakened, this leads to a weakening of the economic situation. And what Russia supplies Syria with military contracts will certainly lead to an improvement in the economic situation in Syria. Russian support for our right to uphold our independence from the very beginning has helped our economy. A number of states opposing the Syrian people have caused serious damage to our economy, primarily due to the economic blockade, because of which we are now suffering. Russia, however, acted completely differently, ”Assad said in an interview with Izvestia.
  • Prorox
    Prorox 26 August 2013 16: 17
    +2
    You can not put on Putin (by the way, fashionably say). but you shouldn’t consider it naive, do not underestimate the employees of the Union Department, you know, the selection was serious.
  • ksan
    ksan 26 August 2013 18: 55
    +1
    Luger RU Today, 09:12 ↑

    I agree 100%! When they had a chance to drag in defensive weapons, they missed it (I won’t be surprised if our GDP was promised not to attack Syria, but he believed), now it’s too late, the train left.
    Do you think the BDK drove there one by one empty? They dragged as much as they could. Only against the AUG of NATO, and even the Turks with the Jews threaten to get in. Against such an alliance (God forbid) Syria will not stand.
    1. loisop
      loisop 26 August 2013 20: 39
      +2
      The armament of the BDK is really weak against the AUG. But how much they, these BDKs, managed to train Onyxes (aka Yakhont, aka Bramos) to Syria - only some comrades know very well. Can an unpleasant surprise for the indicated AUG go out.
  • DEfindER
    DEfindER 26 August 2013 09: 45
    15
    Quote: Denis
    I’m answering you specifically, Russia will not do anything. You can fight with the wrong hands, you could arm Syria, as the United States arms Israel.

    Indeed, it’s not necessary to enter the war on our own, with good military support from Syria, NATO itself will break its teeth with all its might .. remember Vietnam ..
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 09: 57
      +2
      Quote: DEfindER
      remember vietnam ..

      Well remembered what ??? Look at the geography of where Vietnam is and where Syria is. How do you imagine the constant supply of arms to Syria during active military operations?
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 26 August 2013 14: 52
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well remembered what ??? Look at the geography of where Vietnam is and where Syria is. How do you imagine the constant supply of arms to Syria during active military operations?

        Yes what the conversation is about. At first I was also swaggering, they say, let's "dive" there, and then I thought, no options. BDK and BOD will not trample against their fleet.
      2. DEfindER
        DEfindER 26 August 2013 15: 50
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well remembered what ??? Look at the geography of where Vietnam is and where Syria is. How do you imagine the constant supply of arms to Syria during active military operations?

        There was no common border with Vietnam, and you can go to Syria via the Iran-Iraq-Syria route, although I agree with you that there will be problems, the amers will take Iran into the ring and not allow Syria to help it ..
    2. a52333
      a52333 26 August 2013 12: 34
      +6
      Not so simple: Vietnam = an ideal place (landscape and jungle) for guerrilla warfare. In Syria, you can only catch on settlements - 80% of the territory of the desert.
      1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        NOBODY EXCEPT US 26 August 2013 13: 27
        +6
        You forgot one more thing, the Vietnamese are very brave and hardworking people, like ants, which I can’t say about the Arabs, they sit and wait for them to feed and protect them ..... well, I don’t like them, for some reason ....
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 26 August 2013 17: 49
          +2
          Quote: NOBODY EXCEPT US
          You forgot one more thing, the Vietnamese are very brave and hardworking people, like ants, which I can’t say about the Arabs, they sit and wait for them to feed and protect them ..... well, I don’t like them, for some reason ....

          Yeah, Arabs, they are such Arabs ...
          Quote: Abba Eban, Israeli Foreign Minister
          Arabs never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity
    3. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 26 August 2013 16: 09
      +2
      Quote: DEfindER
      with good military support from Syria, NATO itself is breaking its teeth with all its might .. remember Vietnam ..

      With the support of Vietnam, huge funds went from the pockets of the entire population of the USSR. In Russia, a hundred million fewer people and sometimes even enough money for their army. Syria also does not have such an amount of funds to pay everything at once. Add here the capabilities of Russian industry. For ourselves, sometimes we do not have time to do it.
  • Simon
    Simon 26 August 2013 11: 15
    +8
    It is necessary to arm not only Syria, but also Iran, and it will help Syria.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 26 August 2013 20: 01
      0
      Tell me, whose money? Or money bullshit, pieces of paper?
      1. ksan
        ksan 26 August 2013 20: 16
        +1
        Pimpled (1) RU Today, 20:01 ↑ New

        Tell me, whose money? Or money bullshit, pieces of paper?
        Iranian money. Or do you think Iran is a beggar? Now Syria is largely due to the help of Iran and holds on.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2013 02: 01
          0
          That's funny, only at the moment, Russia gives loans.
  • Jin
    Jin 26 August 2013 13: 55
    +2
    Quote: Denis
    You can fight with the wrong hands, you could arm Syria, as the United States arms Israel.


    I agree to repeat the Vietnamese losses for the Amer’s Air Force from our air defense ... something about 200 from downed planes ... this will be the number.
  • Veter
    Veter 26 August 2013 08: 56
    28
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Offer to join the warrior on the side of Syria? Then this is world 3 with all that it implies.


    Fear? Well then, you don’t need to shout at every corner about the revival and power of Russia. We are afraid of joining the war, and the Yankees bomb left and right and put them on everyone.
    The USSR was not afraid to join 3MB, since the Yankees also understand and do not want war.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 09: 01
      +7
      Quote: Veter
      Fear?

      There is no fear, just those who sit, write and do not think that they can happen.
      Quote: Veter
      Well then, you don’t need to shout at every corner about the revival and power of Russia

      We are reborn, but so far we have little strength.
      Quote: Veter
      .We are afraid of joining the war.

      No, we are not afraid! We do not want warriors!
      Quote: Veter
      USSR was not afraid to join 3MB

      And the USSR also did not want warriors!
      Quote: Veter
      since the Yankees also understand and do not want war.

      They do not want warriors ????? And then the soldiers are unleashing?
      1. Veter
        Veter 26 August 2013 09: 11
        12
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There is no fear, just for those who sit, write and do not think what might happen

        Amer does not have it either. Because they understand that there will be no distinct assistance to Syria from the Russian Federation.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        We are reborn, but so far we have little strength.

        With this approach, we may not have time

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        No, we are not afraid! We do not want warriors!

        In the 41st also did not want ...., however ....

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And the USSR also did not want warriors!

        I didn’t want and was not afraid of two different things
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They do not want warriors ????? And then the soldiers are unleashing?

        I'm talking about 3MB. And they unleash local wars because see paragraph 1
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 11: 16
          +3
          Quote: Veter

          Amer does not have it either. Because they understand that there will be no distinct assistance to Syria from the Russian Federation.

          Yes, what will God forbid our citizens begin to die under US bombs? How many of them do you live there?
          1. Veter
            Veter 26 August 2013 11: 29
            18
            Alexander Romanov

            I understood your attitude to this problem. We do not lean out. My hut with the edge, etc.
            How can one cross the great striped nation. They say we will surrender all the few allies with giblets and mop up. Not the first time.

            I repeat once again. If you stutter about rebuilding Russia as a strong state, then you need to act appropriately, and not sit out in the bushes.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 12: 04
              +3
              Quote: Veter
              I understood your attitude to this problem. We do not lean out. My hut with the edge, etc.

              You don’t understand a damn thing! The case can result in 3 world with all the consequences.
              Quote: Veter
              I repeat once again. If you stutter about rebuilding Russia as a strong state, then you need to act appropriately, and not sit out in the bushes.

              I’m afraid that you and I will have the opportunity to sit not in the bushes, but on the front line. Wipe a military ticket from dust.
              And consider that this is an announcement of warriors, according to the modern hi
              Britain will not be guided by the opinion of the UN Security Council in resolving the Syrian issue
              Britain will not be guided by the UN Security Council in resolving the Syrian issue, reports Reuters

              This statement was made by British Foreign Secretary William Hague, adding that this position is due to the fact that the countries represented in the Security Council did not show unanimity when it became known about the chemical attack.

              Earlier it was reported that Turkey will support any action against the Assad regime.
              Talk time has passed
            2. Scoun
              Scoun 26 August 2013 12: 24
              +3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Britain will not be guided by the UN Security Council in resolving the Syrian issue, reports Reuters

              This statement was made by British Foreign Secretary William Hague, adding that this position is due to the fact that the countries represented in the Security Council did not show unanimity when it became known about the chemical attack.

              Russia will not be guided by the opinion of the EEC Security Council in resolving the English question, reports Reuters

              This statement was made by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, adding that this position is due to the fact that the countries represented in the EEC did not show unanimity when the Anglo-Saxons became aware of the start of World War III.
            3. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 13: 47
              +1
              Quote: Scoun
              Russia will not be guided by the opinion of the EEC Security Council in resolving the English question, reports Reuters

              What is this?
            4. Scoun
              Scoun 26 August 2013 14: 07
              +4
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              What is this?

              so ... Dreams, Dreams that someday the day will come .. when Russia will start, without looking back at anyone, will start to put bloodsuckers in place of the presumptuous "democratizers" ... the same naglo-Saxons who allow themselves such categorical statements and actions. In fact, the Naglo-Saxons openly sent the UN in three letters ... that is, even symbolic decency is not observed ...
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 26 August 2013 20: 04
        -2
        Quote: Veter
        We do not lean out. My hut with the edge, etc.
        How can you cross the great striped nation

        Is it more important for you to cross the striped nation or be an influential country?
      3. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 26 August 2013 20: 30
        +4
        Quote: Pimply
        Is it more important for you to cross the striped nation or be an influential country?

        "... both that, and another. And if possible, without bread ...".
        Winnie the Pooh and Piglet.
      4. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2013 02: 02
        0
        Russia is currently not the USSR. It's a little expensive to be a superpower
      5. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 27 August 2013 02: 41
        +3
        Quote: Pimply
        Russia is currently not the USSR. It's a little expensive to be a superpower

        Will it be cheaper to fight off the attacks of the "bearded" ones in Russia later, when Syria is being quartered?
  • tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 26 August 2013 09: 38
    +9
    They really do not want a war in which there may be big losses such as Vietnam, you are used to understand throwing Tamgawks.
  • Gur
    Gur 26 August 2013 11: 05
    37
    Yes, indeed, after so many comments on the site, - "Hurray, Syria, we are with you, Assad urine of the fighting men, give Syria weapons, etc." And now this is - "Well, what can you do, we are weak, the rest don't want war , 3M is not needed, forgive Assad "Bl d, the USSR did not want war not when, but he understood with all his gut that if we give slack and allow the United States to increase the circle of influence, then sooner or later we will get pi ... ts, and therefore we drove our fleet to Egypt, so we drove the fleet to India, supplied weapons and taught the Vietnamese to fight, because if our influence does not remain in the world, we will simply die in a hostile environment. Do we need to build a picket fence on all borders from nuclear missiles now? And in the days of the USSR, we also had problems, but we had the will and understanding of all this.
  • adm656
    adm656 26 August 2013 12: 09
    +5
    No, we are not afraid! We do not want warriors! [Quote = Veter]
    We do not want war .. therefore we are afraid ..
  • nycsson
    nycsson 26 August 2013 15: 03
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    There is no fear, just those who sit, write and do not think that they can happen.

    Our government had to think about all these years and forecast the foreign policy situation. And what she was doing history is silent. am
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    We are reborn, but so far we have little strength.

    In what branch of economy do you think we are reviving? request
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    No, we are not afraid! We do not want warriors!

    The fact of the matter is that we are afraid.
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And the USSR also did not want warriors!

    But not afraid.
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    They do not want warriors ????? And then the soldiers are unleashing?

    They fulfill their goals. The end justifies the means of its achievement.
  • DEfindER
    DEfindER 26 August 2013 16: 06
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    We are reborn, but so far we have little strength.

    Well, this is no reason, so as not to defend their interests, the amers are still cowards, they attack like jackals only on countries weakened and torn by war. If they are afraid of attacking the DPRK, then I think all the more afraid to enter into an open conflict with us. And so what's the point in the Army if you keep dancing to the tune of potential enemies ..
  • Luger
    Luger 26 August 2013 09: 13
    +5
    Direct confrontation does not always show the degree of courage of courage and mind, sometimes a cold calculation is much better than a hot head.
    1. Veter
      Veter 26 August 2013 09: 27
      +7
      Quote: Luger
      sometimes a cold calculation is much better than a hot head.


      Something is hardly believed that the whole situation is the Kremlin’s calculation. Amers arrive, bomb them, that's the whole calculation
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 09: 59
        +2
        Quote: Veter
        Amers arrive, bomb them, that's the whole calculation

        Well abandoned, and then what? If Assad really apply chemistry ??? This is not a calculation. This is idiocy.
        1. Veter
          Veter 26 August 2013 10: 31
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Well abandoned, and then what?

          +1 country to the piggy bank of the West, and we sit and puff out our cheeks
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          If Assad really apply chemistry ???

          Against amers? No, it will not be decided.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          This is not a calculation. This is idiocy.

          Read carefully the post of the interlocutor and my answer.
          Quote: Luger
          sometimes cold calculation much better than a hot head.

          cold settlement on our part is unlikely, and not the calculation of amers
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 26 August 2013 20: 12
            -2
            Quote: Veter
            +1 country to the piggy bank of the West, and we sit and puff out our cheeks

            Being a superpower is very expensive. You are not up to date. In addition, the West is not one country. But Russia does not currently have the same bloc.
        2. Essenger
          Essenger 26 August 2013 12: 54
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Well abandoned, and then what? If Assad really apply chemistry ??? This is not a calculation. This is idiocy.

          Hello, Alexander. Maybe we’ll open some kind of fund and for all those who want to fight, we’ll buy a ticket to Syria? wink
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 13: 48
            +3
            Quote: Essenger
            . Maybe we’ll open some kind of fund and for all those who want to fight, we’ll buy a ticket to Syria?

            Not funny. Now it’s not funny
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 26 August 2013 20: 14
            +1
            Here people on the forum love to fight.
        3. nycsson
          nycsson 26 August 2013 15: 20
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Well abandoned, and then what?

          And then the fate of Milosevic or Gaddafi!
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          If Assad really apply chemistry ???

          Will he use it on airplanes?
        4. Pimply
          Pimply 26 August 2013 20: 07
          0
          And this is guaranteed to bury himself. Now, at least he has a chance at the Kosovo option.
  • Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt 26 August 2013 11: 12
    -4
    Not afraid to join 3MB?
    Your participation in the third world war may end on your chair, which has turned into molecules with you, without having begun.
  • adm656
    adm656 26 August 2013 12: 06
    +9
    I agree one hundred percent .. if we let everything down as before, then shit more to shout about how we are reborn .. moreover, we will have to lie under the homosexual, because even these subhuman people will cost more than the whole of Russia .. But account of how we must save Syria .. let Putin think this ... for this I always voted for him ...
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 26 August 2013 14: 04
      +1
      Declare all non-civilian aircraft heading towards Syrian territory as a potential threat to the naval base of Tartus, and therefore a threat to Russian citizens, with the right to prevent this threat in all possible ways. angry angry angry I think that air defense systems, both Russian and Syrian (they can be combined into a single complex), will be enough in this region. I think that such a statement (or some similar one) can cool a little zealous overseas warriors. what belay
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 26 August 2013 20: 15
        -3
        And get an economic crisis, for example, and a sharp aggravation of relations.
  • Far East
    Far East 26 August 2013 12: 56
    +2
    Quote: Veter
    Fear? Well then, you don’t need to scream at every corner

    In in good good good and ally like China and so on. they stupidly sit out and that's it! it's just that all of this has gotten above the roof! but if nothing is done, NATO and the hedgehogs with them will muddy the water for a long time, and we will clap on the keyboard what they are ...! we are probably waiting for someone to come to us with a "SWORD!" and we have the CAUCASUS at our side! it will be more trenchant than the Second World War it is necessary to somehow dodge on the "navel" but not to allow all this mess!
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 26 August 2013 20: 17
      0
      Do you really consider China to be allies?
  • Pimply
    Pimply 26 August 2013 20: 03
    +1
    Because the Americans currently have the first economy in the world, and a strong army. And then - they think very hard whether to climb into adventure.
  • ksan
    ksan 26 August 2013 20: 10
    0
    Maj.
    Veter SU Today, 08:56 ↑

    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Offer to join the warrior on the side of Syria? Then this is world 3 with all that it implies.


    Fear? Well then, you don’t need to shout at every corner about the revival and power of Russia. We are afraid of joining the war, and the Yankees bomb left and right and put them on everyone.
    The USSR was not afraid to join 3MB, since the Yankees also understand and do not want war.
    Do you want war? Another warrior of the 3rd world war. And the Yankees bomb because they always lay down on everyone with the device. But when there was a Union, they reckoned with its "presence" in this or that region. But now there is no union, and please do not compare the USSR and Russia, although WE are the "heirs" but the scale is not the same, the influence is not that, the military power is not the same , but EVERYTHING is wrong.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 26 August 2013 20: 17
      +1
      Quote: ksan
      WE though

      And here you Мы no need to speak, to WE You have nothing to do.
      Rather to THEY .
      hi
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2013 02: 04
      0
      Exactly. In order to have the ambitions of a superpower, it is necessary to have its economy.
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 27 August 2013 18: 20
        0
        Quote: Pimply
        one must have its economy.

        Or her legacy.
        wink
  • Crocodile
    Crocodile 26 August 2013 09: 02
    16
    Just once again grab a portion of crap and hide behind tolerance? And then continue to bark from around the corner and "wonder" when the Balts will lower us? Perhaps, for a start, we demand back our gold and foreign exchange reserves from US banks? Or are our barefoots afraid for their villas on the Cote d'Azur and Miami? One thing is clear - the time has come to collect stones! Otherwise, we won't dare to declare war soon because of our neighbor on the landing!
  • Papakiko
    Papakiko 26 August 2013 09: 06
    +7
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Then it is 3 world with all that it implies. The world does not burn for long and a lot of mind is not needed.

    This is the whole "raisin" that some push the "horse" into the abyss with all their efforts.
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    The world went crazy earlier with attacks on Belgrade. It was then that the United States began to lie actively and laid on the UN.

    Significantly earlier, comrade, more significant-in several centuries.
    We started by burning witches at the stake.
    Quote: Civil
    4. Both China and Russia, due to economic circumstances, will put up with the loss of the ally.

    It’s not a question of losing an ally or of circumstances; it’s a question of what role the others have in the future. They will be in slavish service to the "golden billion" or "golden billion" they will cultivate the land with a plow and a spade nearby.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 26 August 2013 10: 19
      19
      Quote: Papakiko
      There is no question of losing an ally

      And in the loss of an ally, as well.
      If aggression against Syria begins, Russia should intervene in the toughest way.
      Does not intervene. Russian authority in the world is the end.
      1. ksan
        ksan 26 August 2013 19: 58
        -1
        And in the loss of an ally, as well.
        If aggression against Syria begins, Russia should intervene in the toughest way.
        Does not intervene. To Russian authority in the world is the end
        "The toughest way" is how? Fight? Send your soldiers? And you probably will be the first to volunteer for the war? Russia already helps to the best of its strength and capabilities. Another thing is that it does not have as many of these "forces and opportunities" as it would like
  • rolik
    rolik 26 August 2013 09: 43
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Specifically, I ask you what Russia can do now, at the diplomatic level we have already done everything we could.

    Present US debt for payment, and withdraw assets from the mattress in one day. It will be cleaner than the atomic bombing, and if China also pulls up, the mattress-beds will not be at all before the war.
    1. Veter
      Veter 26 August 2013 09: 49
      +5
      Quote: rolik
      Present US debt for payment, and withdraw assets from the mattress in one day. It will be cleaner than the atomic bombing, and if China also pulls up, the mattress-beds will not be at all before the war.


      Yes, it will be a devastating blow to the amers. But alas, the Russian Federation and China will not decide on this.
      1. Horn
        Horn 26 August 2013 11: 22
        +2
        So what? De Gaulle tried to exchange dollars for gold.
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 26 August 2013 11: 56
          +5
          And exchanged !!!! Gave the darlings not gone anywhere.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 26 August 2013 21: 57
            -1
            They gave it away. And what is the result? The loophole was closed. You won’t eat gold.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 10: 01
      +1
      Quote: rolik
      Present US debt for payment,

      The rejection of the dollar and the global collapse that will end with a grand warrior. Still there are options?
      1. rolik
        rolik 26 August 2013 23: 02
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The rejection of the dollar and the global collapse that will end with a grand warrior

        Suppose there will be no world war, mattresses will suddenly have such problems inside the country before which the current hemorrhoid will seem like a breeze. and they will no longer be before the world war. Concerns will be shown for filling the constructed concentration camps and stuffing plastic coffins for four people.
      2. Alejandro
        Alejandro 27 August 2013 00: 09
        +5
        I think that, at a minimum, Rospotrebnadzor and Rostourism are obliged to STRONGLY recommend tour operators not to sell tickets and not to organize trips of tourists to countries to whose territory a possible military operation and the response of the Syrian authorities (Israel, Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, Cyprus) can spread and warn them criminal liability in the event of the death of our citizens. Through diplomatic relations, to warn our “partners” that in the event of an attack on Syria without the sanction of the UN Security Council, we will unfreeze the supplies of S-300 systems and other DEFENSE air defense systems to Iran.
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    3. Veles25
      Veles25 26 August 2013 11: 04
      16 th
      US don't owe money to Russia
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 11: 14
        10
        Quote: Veles25
        US don't owe money to Russia

        What are you, how should it not? And Cho hid his American flag behind the flag of the USSR?
        Finance Magazine has compiled a list of major US lenders. Russia entered the top ten with a share of debt of 2,5% - this is more than 65 billion dollars. In the first place were Japan and China (more than 40% of America's public debt).
        1. Veles25
          Veles25 26 August 2013 11: 19
          +3
          investment. I am new to this site. so i made a mistake
        2. Veles25
          Veles25 26 August 2013 11: 30
          +3
          In the first place were Japan and China (more than 40% of America's public debt). ????
        3. Veles25
          Veles25 26 August 2013 11: 39
          +4
          Alexander Romanov. And who hid his American flag behind the flag of the USSR?

          it's hard for me to use this site. because I need to translate into Russian
          1. Armata
            Armata 26 August 2013 11: 56
            13
            Quote: Veles25
            In the first place were Japan and China (more than 40% of America's public debt). ????

            Well, if you consider that this is a clipping from an American magazine, then it’s clear why you rest so much. In fact. Whose cowards are you now? What about the shirt? What about the comp? It’s interesting, but whose gold are you now so calmly managing as yours? Yours as a Latvian only ...... and soul. The people of the Holodigans, who want the whole world to be made poor for the sake of their stomach. You can’t be so stupid and naive. Your country is just a zombie gut that has no conscience. There is only a fist, and that one is already drying out.
            1. Veles25
              Veles25 26 August 2013 12: 20
              20 th
              The people of the famine? which the whole world has done
            2. Armata
              Armata 26 August 2013 12: 33
              15
              Quote: Veles25
              The people of the famine? which the whole world has done
              Deception and meanness. Remember who was sent to you. The country of slaves and bandits (oh sorry I’m not tolerant, African-Americans and exiled convicts) Yes, all your brotherhood and years, then all 200 with small copecks. All your gathering is younger than the city in which I had the honor to be born and live (I am already silent about our country). And all that you have achieved by deceit from healthy people is not quoted. When so many rogues gather in one place, this is considered a gang by the Criminal Code. So the whole sub-sector is just the biggest gang in the world. By the way, the behavior shows that they came, plundered, destroyed, raked, dumped. This is the principle of your society.
            3. Veles25
              Veles25 26 August 2013 12: 40
              19 th
              200 with small copecks. Russia is more than a thousand years old, and where is it now?
            4. Armata
              Armata 26 August 2013 12: 47
              15
              Quote: Veles25
              00 with small copecks. Russia is more than a thousand years old, and where is it now?
              Where it was, on the spot. laughing
            5. Hort
              Hort 26 August 2013 14: 02
              +3
              where is she now?
              For me, it’s as it was on the spot. there are certainly difficulties, but this is temporary bully
            6. chehywed
              chehywed 26 August 2013 23: 10
              +3
              Quote: Veles25
              Russia is more than a thousand years old, and where is it now?

              On the spot. But where would the United States be, had Russia not helped you out in the 18 and 19 centuries? The question is rhetorical. But where else will you find yourself ..?
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 12: 40
            +9
            Zhenya, forget it. This Amer sits there and Obama admires gays.
          3. Armata
            Armata 26 August 2013 12: 48
            +5
            Not Sanya. I am curious. I like such laconic navels of the earth laughing
          4. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 13: 22
            +5
            Quote: Mechanic
            I like such laconic navels of the earth

            Eugene, well, he is an American and considers himself the main one, although Bush was not verbose, and when he tried to talk a lot, the whole world saw that he was completely fucked up laughing
        4. Veles25
          Veles25 26 August 2013 13: 01
          -8
          there is no point in talking to you. all that you say about Obama and gays
        5. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 13: 20
          16
          Quote: Veles25
          there is no point in talking to you. all that you say about Obama and gays

          Yes, we dared to call Obama a war criminal, and gays perverts. We call a spade a spade and your democracy is ordinary fascism!
        6. Veles25
          Veles25 26 August 2013 13: 32
          +3
          and you are right. I am not saying that they are doing the right thing. this government they are all like that
        7. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 13: 50
          +5
          Quote: Veles25
          The people of the famine? which the whole world has done

          your quote
          Quote: Veles25
          I am not saying that they are doing the right thing.

          Well turn around, turn around
        8. Veles25
          Veles25 26 August 2013 14: 10
          0
          not right? ....
      2. Simon
        Simon 26 August 2013 14: 50
        0
        What a government, such and the people who elected it.
  • NOBODY EXCEPT US
    NOBODY EXCEPT US 26 August 2013 13: 37
    +7
    You probably forgot Alexander Romanov as Putin and the company admired Obama when he made a clinton trumpet all his pipes, is he our friend and now we don’t admire him anymore? us now too
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 13: 46
    +5
    dirty politics
  • Pimply
    Pimply 26 August 2013 22: 11
    -2
    Zhen, what are the exiled convicts? Do not confuse with Australia. America was built by Protestants. Vasp.
  • Muadipus
    Muadipus 27 August 2013 01: 38
    +3
    The people of the famine? which the whole world has done

    :) Dear, you have a small overdraft in the amount of $ 53. I don’t know what your income is, maybe these are little things for you, But for very tanned representatives of the African American Negroid race, I think this is not pleasant
    surprise. So you are really a nation of holodroots. Sorry to tell you the truth.
    Currently (March 2013), the US government debt per capita is about 53,000 dollars / person ... These economic indicators indicate a tendency to approach default.

    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%EE%F1%F3%E4%E0%F0%F1%F2%E2%E5%ED%ED%FB%E9_%E4%E

    E% EB% E3_% D1% D8% C0
    In one thing you are right, you managed to bend the world and not for the first time. In the Russian Army there is such a saying "Dembel is not coming soon - this is a minus, but it is inevitable - this is a plus" I will paraphrase ... the collapse of the United States is inevitable - this is a plus "

    Threat. My generation is fortunate enough to watch a lot of important events. This is the decline of the communist system, and the collapse of the USSR, the 90s (also that western) the appearance and development of computers, the change of centuries, the fall of meteorite .. I only changed 3 clothes uniform designs in the army (who else can boast of this :)) But what really pleases me is that I will see how Pendosnya will die and be given an anathema. Yankees are evil! And while the US exists, the planet is in danger.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 26 August 2013 22: 01
    -2
    Where is the internet developed, which are you sitting at right now? Tablets, search engines, drugs? You have no idea what percentage of products manufactured in the US you consume every day.
  • Setrac
    Setrac 26 August 2013 22: 40
    +6
    Quote: Pimply
    Where is the internet developed, which are you sitting at right now? Tablets, search engines, drugs? You have no idea what percentage of products manufactured in the US you consume every day.

    Produced and developed - different things. Not all of the above were invented and developed by the Americans.
  • Muadipus
    Muadipus 27 August 2013 01: 50
    +2
    Where is the internet developed, which are you sitting at right now? Tablets, search engines, drugs? You have no idea what percentage of products manufactured in the US you consume every day.
    Yeah, you still remember Popov’s radio, and the alternating current of the Serbian genius Nikola Tesla. dignity can be measured for a long time.

    This is what I was going to say for a long time:
    Here you are buying American goods (cars, iPhones, etc.) And the Yankees are killing Syrian children with this money. So everyone who buys US goods is essentially the sponsor of numerous US-sponsored killings.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 27 August 2013 02: 17
    -3
    Quote: Muadipus
    Popov
    if you are not in the know, invented one of the elements of the radio.
    The “father” of radio in the broad sense of the word is Hertz, the “father-distributor” of radio telegraphy is Marconi, who adapted the Hertz transmitter and receiver of Popov to the practical task of transmitting and receiving radio telegraphs by connecting the first with a telegraph key and the second with a printing telegraph apparatus. But in general, the question of the invention of radio in general (and not of radio telegraphy and other specific forms of its application), according to Nikolsky, is just as ridiculous as the question of the "invention" of gravity. And the Tesla Serb - like the Russian Sikorsky - was invented in the States. For the good of this country.

    Quote: Muadipus
    And the Yankees are killing Syrian children with this money.
    Then chop off the computer, abandon the Windows, cut the phone on the android, refuse food (if you are not aware, a considerable part of it is stored and harvested according to American technology. Get the processor out of the computer. Forward.

    Some Syrian children are being killed with American and Arab money, others with Russian and Persian. Which Syrian children do you regret?
  • Setrac
    Setrac 27 August 2013 22: 00
    +1
    Quote: Muadipus
    Yeah, you still remember Popov’s radio, and the alternating current of the Serbian genius Nikola Tesla. dignity can be measured for a long time.

    The Intel Pentium processor was created by a Russian scientist, this is the most striking example ..
  • Far East
    Far East 26 August 2013 13: 09
    +1
    Quote: Veles25
    it's hard for me to use this site. because I need to translate into Russian

    I apologize! Are you English? with respect! hi
    1. Veles25
      Veles25 26 August 2013 13: 15
      -2
      No, I'm Russian.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 13: 19
      +4
      Quote: Veles25
      No, I'm Russian.
      Who are you?
      Quote: Veles25
      it's hard for me to use this site. because I need to translate into Russian

      You are not my brother to me!
    3. Veles25
      Veles25 26 August 2013 13: 27
      +6
      Alexander Romanov: You're not my brother to me!

      I never said that. Did you smoke something?
    4. Simon
      Simon 26 August 2013 14: 56
      +6
      Russians all in Russia live in the post-Soviet space, and you are a so-so fugitive.
  • Far East
    Far East 26 August 2013 13: 28
    +3
    Quote: Veles25
    No, I'm Russian.

    do not understand! and then why should you translate? hi
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 13: 39
    +1
    I came to the US when I was 8
  • Far East
    Far East 26 August 2013 13: 54
    +2
    aaaaaaaa! everything is clear! I apologize! how old are you now? and the question is, how do you like usa? hi
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 14: 00
    +1
    25 .........
  • Far East
    Far East 26 August 2013 14: 03
    +1
    Well, you could say a man! so what is my question! have you already been in the army?
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 14: 14
    0
    I like it here. No. I have never been in the army. there are friends that have been there more than once
  • Far East
    Far East 26 August 2013 14: 22
    +3
    Quote: Veles25
    I like it here.

    in! this is something!
    Quote: Veles25
    I have never been in the army.

    need to go! but in your I do not advise! there is a lot of PIDOR .. In! Do you know anything good about RUSSIA? hi
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 14: 34
    +1
    about RUSSIA? I read the news, like you. Russian news and in English. so I think we all know what is happening. I go to Russia sometimes just visit
  • Far East
    Far East 26 August 2013 14: 42
    +2
    I’m wondering what kind of news channel you are watching? Are you going to come to Russia?
    Quote: Veles25
    I spoke good Russian. I just write it badly

    nothing wrong!
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 14: 52
    0
    I travel there sometimes. http://etvnet.com/
    Channel One: Time
  • Far East
    Far East 26 August 2013 15: 01
    0
    Quote: Veles25
    I travel there sometimes.

    and where were you in Russia? and what state do you live in?
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 15: 19
    +1
    Washington Seattle. Moscow St. Petersburg Chelyabinsk. Have you ever been to the US?
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 16: 51
    +8
    Quote: Veles25
    Have you ever been to the US?

    We will be there !!!
  • ATATA
    ATATA 26 August 2013 17: 09
    +7
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    We will be there !!!

    drinks good
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 26 August 2013 17: 21
    +2
    only the sculptural composition is out of place, a huge minus to the designer
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 17: 26
    +2
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    huge minus to the designer

    I'm not a designer
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  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 26 August 2013 19: 18
    +1
    but you have no complaints, although the composition is well known and in general the collage has some kind of darling
  • Cynic
    Cynic 26 August 2013 19: 30
    0
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    collage has some kind of darling

    Isn't this one?
  • Cynic
    Cynic 26 August 2013 19: 25
    +2
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    out of place sculptural composition

    Why? To the place, but to another.

    And we are old-fashioned
  • alone
    alone 26 August 2013 23: 11
    +2
    The picture is certainly interesting, but only a nuclear explosion and flying helicopters somehow make you think. Yes and also the landing in the sky request
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 26 August 2013 23: 24
    +1
    Here I like your composition more +!
  • Far East
    Far East 27 August 2013 10: 18
    +1
    Quote: Veles25
    Have you ever been to the US?

    I have been in many places by the nature of my work, there was Alaska "SAC"
  • Muadipus
    Muadipus 27 August 2013 02: 05
    0
    IMHO, Troll, he sings too smoothly, for a person at the age of 8 who has changed his language environment.
    I apologize in advance if I am mistaken, but in my opinion "the Cossack is sent"
  • Simon
    Simon 26 August 2013 15: 02
    +2
    You have to live in Russia, then you can understand the Russian soul. "There is a Russian spirit, there is a smell of Russia" - A.S. Pushkin. And in the states - it smells of greenery.
  • rolik
    rolik 26 August 2013 23: 07
    +1
    Quote: Veles25
    about RUSSIA? I read the news like you

    I advise you to look closely at RT ("Russia Today") there and you will see normal news.
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 14: 36
    +1
    I spoke good Russian. I just write it badly
  • Simon
    Simon 26 August 2013 14: 57
    +2
    He only has a name - Russian, and the soul is American.
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 15: 22
    +2
    I am not religious.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 13: 51
    +1
    Quote: Far East
    do not understand! and then why should you translate?

    Because he is lying
  • Far East
    Far East 26 August 2013 13: 55
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Because he is lying

    and we will check! hi
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 14: 07
    +2
    and I thought it was a good site. it should be called toppolitics. not topwar
  • Arabist
    Arabist 26 August 2013 14: 16
    +3
    Do not like it, do not visit it. What kind of love do Amers give advice to all.
  • Simon
    Simon 29 August 2013 09: 34
    0
    We like this site name more. yes
  • Far East
    Far East 26 August 2013 14: 18
    +3
    Quote: Veles25
    and I thought it was a good site. it should be called toppolitics. not topwar

    my dear American friend! and you are imbued with this site! and then you there the BRAIN is so cleaned on the whips "Aunt ASI" be open! and people will reach out to you! hi
    Quote: Veles25
    Are you stupid or what?

    Are you me? my boy! hi
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 14: 41
    +1
    not for Alexander Romanov
  • Far East
    Far East 26 August 2013 14: 47
    +1
    Quote: Veles25
    not for Alexander Romanov

    clear!
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 14: 44
    -1
    my dear American friend! and you are imbued with this site! and then you have there the BRAIN is so cleaned on the whips "Aunt ASI" be open! and people will be drawn to you.

    Do not say how you know me.
  • Far East
    Far East 26 August 2013 14: 50
    0
    Quote: Veles25
    Do not say how you know me.

    not understood! I'm not talking about you but about "aunt ASI" this is a detergent! if anything!
  • Simon
    Simon 26 August 2013 15: 05
    +1
    Do not be offended by the fellow, here everyone is "greeted by their clothes, but escorted by their minds." Russian folk proverb.
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 15: 24
    +1
    its all good
  • Armata
    Armata 26 August 2013 15: 52
    +4
    Yes, buzzing. Very good. Expert Xp ...... So even your experts shout that our soldiers are a death to the undercovers both in training and endurance. And so your megaspil does not save traitors. Well, you are Victor, amusing yourself with the thought that in a global war, you won’t hang out like a traitor on a pillar.
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 14: 01
    -2
    Are you stupid or what?
  • Armata
    Armata 26 August 2013 15: 53
    +1
    Quote: Veles25
    Are you stupid or what?
    The price of underestimating the enemy is death. Remember the boy.
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 11: 56
    -4
    2012 ........
  • nycsson
    nycsson 26 August 2013 13: 54
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What are you, how should it not? And Cho hid his American flag behind the flag of the USSR?
    Finance Magazine has compiled a list of major US lenders. Russia entered the top ten with a share of debt of 2,5% - this is more than 65 billion dollars. In the first place were Japan and China (more than 40% of America's public debt).

    Here you are naive. Just amazed. You still do not understand that this performance owed by the USA is a scam. The dollar will collapse and the US will forgive all its debts. Including forgive our money in the funds that lie there.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 26 August 2013 21: 58
    -1
    Sasha, and this is what they invest in so that they work, and do not melt
  • Apollo
    Apollo 26 August 2013 11: 31
    +9
    Quote: Veles25
    US don't owe money to Russia


    Are you here on the forum representing US interests ?! laughing
    1. Veles25
      Veles25 26 August 2013 11: 45
      -1
      Apollon I did not tell you a Alexander Romanovy
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 26 August 2013 12: 03
        10
        Quote: Veles25
        Apollon I did not tell you a Alexander Romanovy


        Another" laughing .
        Understand, ALL users on the site are equal and free in their desire (not desire) to communicate with any visitor.
        1. Jin
          Jin 26 August 2013 14: 17
          +4
          Quote: Corsair
          Another"


          At such a pace will soon be: "Another MINUS" ONE "...
      2. Apollo
        Apollo 26 August 2013 12: 09
        +7
        Quote: Veles25
        I did not tell you a Alexander Romanovy


        but are we talking here, we are rather write.
        In your opinion, I can not write something in response to you ?! winked Your logic is strange.
      3. Hort
        Hort 26 August 2013 13: 07
        +1
        a little off topic, but I can not help but notice that your nickname with the American flag, to put it mildly, does not fit;)
    2. Veles25
      Veles25 26 August 2013 13: 05
      0
      Are you here on the forum representing the interests of small Azerbaijan?
      1. Armata
        Armata 26 August 2013 13: 14
        +6
        Quote: Veles25
        Are you here on the forum representing the interests of small Azerbaijan?
        Yes, it is our union republic, and all that is told to you is a lie. We treat all who are separated from us well.
        1. Veles25
          Veles25 26 August 2013 13: 50
          -6
          that's why the USSR fell
        2. Armata
          Armata 26 August 2013 16: 00
          +4
          Quote: Veles25
          that's why the USSR fell
          The USSR did not fall. He gobbled up sneakers, and now he understood. So the white-headed be afraid of the bear. Well, not with GDP, but when you get tired of bending before you, and then there will be an iron curtain and the Caribbean crisis.
        3. Pimply
          Pimply 26 August 2013 22: 15
          -1
          Zhenya, the USSR had a rather inefficient economy and accumulated internal protest. Corruption and inertia of power. That's all.
        4. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 26 August 2013 22: 35
          +2
          Quote: Pimply
          the USSR had a rather inefficient economy

          in this inefficient economy, we had tariffs for housing and communal services which we cannot even dream of now, the entire children's assortment was subsidized and often sold at a price below cost, we did not have the social problems that we have now
        5. Hort
          Hort 27 August 2013 13: 16
          0
          not really or not at all :)

          The economy was of course ineffective (since any "one-sided" economy - even a purely market one, even a purely planned one in terms of efficiency will always lose to a mixed one), but it was the inertia and venality of the authorities that contributed to the collapse of the USSR. It was enough to carry out competent reforms on the gradual transition of certain sectors of the economy to market rails while maintaining the state plan in strategically important areas. And the same "glasnost" had to be introduced just as gradually, and not in the style of the marked - once and "everyone can do anything."
        6. Simon
          Simon 29 August 2013 09: 41
          0
          Now it is waiting for the states, we have already passed it.
    3. Anatolich
      Anatolich 26 August 2013 17: 19
      +1
      What an American you are! Gulchatay! Show your face.
    4. Jin
      Jin 26 August 2013 19: 58
      +1
      Quote: Anatolich
      What an American you are! Gulchatay! Show your face.


      That troll is some kind of ... another ... the guys tore it up "once".
  • Apollo
    Apollo 26 August 2013 13: 46
    +2
    Quote: Veles25
    Are you here on the forum representing the interests of small Azerbaijan?


    Quote: Veles25
    небольшой
    ????? soon ending th


    for distorting the Russian language - minus.
    1. Veles25
      Veles25 26 August 2013 14: 23
      -2
      for distorting the Russian language - minus.
      I apologize badly with Russian
    2. Apollo
      Apollo 26 August 2013 14: 30
      +1
      Quote: Veles25
      for distorting the Russian language - minus.
      I apologize badly with Russian


      Well then, I am ashamed of you.
    3. Veles25
      Veles25 26 August 2013 14: 45
      -6
      go take care of yourself
    4. Armata
      Armata 26 August 2013 15: 44
      +6
      Quote: Veles25
      go take care of yourself
      Any aggression of the co-workers begins with this cry. By the way, we have mattress covers in the color of your flag. But you are not Russian. You are a mercenary who betrayed your homeland (well, although the one who took and raised is the same dad.) I often meet with your scientific elite, but my opinion does not change. Morons are your nation. All that is is stolen. Finding out questions about the origin of cockroaches is certainly cool. Honestly, I want the young guys to raise the flag over the white house with the help of weapons that our design bureau is working on. And enough can "flowers" cast a spell over the whole world? You can also grab a melon with a mace.
  • Simon
    Simon 29 August 2013 09: 45
    +1
    Come to Russia, to the homeland of your ancestors, you will learn the Russian language, you will become a real Russian, you will even learn to swear. lol
  • kush62
    kush62 28 August 2013 17: 41
    0
    How does an American know about Azerbaijan?
  • bomg.77
    bomg.77 26 August 2013 17: 09
    +1
    Quote: Veles25
    US don't owe money to Russia
    Anyone who has dollars
    is a direct lender to the United States, not to mention the state.
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  • Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt 26 August 2013 11: 14
    +1
    Present US debt for payment, and withdraw assets from the mattress in one day.

    Yeah, that's what they gave.
  • Sandov
    Sandov 26 August 2013 11: 24
    +2
    Quote: rolik
    Present US debt for payment, and withdraw assets from the mattress in one day. It will be cleaner than the atomic bombing, and if China also pulls up, the mattress-beds will not be at all before the war.

    Yes, this is probably the best solution, amers must be bent at any cost. Forever desirable.
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 26 August 2013 13: 05
    -3
    Quote: rolik
    Present US debt for payment, and withdraw assets from the mattress in one day.

    Such a development of events was possible under Stalin. The modern political regime can only languidly poke lips Lavrov! Giving more likely recommendations and not insisting on their implementation. Read the statement by the Foreign Ministry - nothing concrete, sheep’s bleating!

    I would also add to your list the expulsion of NATO from Ulyanovsk!
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 26 August 2013 13: 08
      +3
      What is a military base in Ulyanovsk? How does it bother you?
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 13: 52
      +2
      Quote: S_mirnov
      I would also add to your list the expulsion of NATO from Ulyanovsk!

      What base, show it. Sits and lies insolent
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 26 August 2013 14: 31
        -3
        Yes, you call this indecency at least a transshipment point, at least a logistics center! All the same, this is cooperation with NATO! The transit of enemy military cargo through our country!
        So, expressing angry US petitions from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and at the same time cooperating with NATO is somehow shameful, frankly speaking - it looks gay!
        By the way, judging by the profile picture, you get a salary by the bucks and you see a lot? wink
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 26 August 2013 15: 27
          -2
          Quote: S_mirnov
          So, expressing angry US petitions from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and at the same time cooperating with NATO is somehow shameful, frankly speaking - it looks gay!

          Well, this is so that gullible Russians blur their eyes!
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 26 August 2013 16: 20
            -5
            Quote: nycsson
            Well, this is so that gullible Russians blur their eyes!

            Yeah, you can see for the top business - there is business!
  • Pimply
    Pimply 26 August 2013 21: 45
    -2
    Quote: rolik
    Present US debt for payment, and withdraw assets from the mattress in one day. It will be cleaner than the atomic bombing, and if China also pulls up, the mattress-beds will not be at all before the war.

    Correctly. The whole world is in ruin. Remind me what happened with problems in one area in the USA? By the way, what do you invest in?
  • Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 26 August 2013 09: 53
    +6
    Yes, you are dusting .... World War III .... stupidity do not write America and all this trash will not substitute your head for no one knows ..... yes Obama was offended by Russia for Snowden .... yes the US needs a war since there are problems in the economy .... yes, you need to try to put Russia in its place ... but the third world ...... well, here it’s hardly .... not the case ...... but Russia ? .... yes, immediately it is necessary to send troops into Syria ...... to secure chemical storage facilities ..... to call for decisive action by China and Iran ..... and the whole catastrophe will end without starting ... ..and Obama will be forever about
  • Horn
    Horn 26 August 2013 11: 19
    +2
    On this and the calculation. Russia will join - world war and the dismemberment of Russia. Will not stand up - the implementation of separatist scenarios in the national republics, the dismemberment of Russia. There are many scenarios. The goal is one. This is the difference between the policy of small Britons, who for hundreds of years went to the goal of destroying Russia, and our "government", which cannot plan more than a year ...
  • a52333
    a52333 26 August 2013 11: 32
    +4
    Granites and Malachites urgently put, even though the aircraft carrier to the bottom.
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 26 August 2013 11: 59
      +6
      Previously, it was necessary to deliver and not make flirts with the United States, because it was immediately clear that this wouldn’t stop with a club.
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 26 August 2013 12: 41
      +1
      Quote: a52333
      Granites and Malachites urgently put, even though the aircraft carrier to the bottom

      Aircraft carrier is not difficult to sink, it will be difficult to prove that Russia has nothing to do with it.
      1. a52333
        a52333 26 August 2013 12: 45
        +4
        The Israelis blew up one warehouse with the Malachites a month ago, I am sure he is not alone. But it’s time for us to get up with the knee-elbow. Peter the Great and Moscow to Tartus on duty. These kovs have one place, too, not iron, they will see the DECISIVE position of Moscow, they will also play OKNUMX.
        1. Onotollah
          Onotollah 26 August 2013 16: 24
          +8
          Quote: a52333
          malachite warehouse blew up

          And how many yachts really were there (it was like talking about them) and were they there at all?
          If there "Bastions" are in place, then the AUG may seem sour, information that ALL anti-ship missiles were blown up can be a trick.
          Z.Y:
          In general, men, I think it’s a shame: Syria and Assad are fighting for their homeland no matter what, but already bury them and scream all gone. Let's tie it up already.
  • little man
    little man 26 August 2013 11: 35
    +2
    But why don't the USA think of World War 3?
    How much can you swallow pills?
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 26 August 2013 11: 43
    -5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    what Russia can do now, at the diplomatic level we have already done everything we could

    No, "everything we could" - we have already done for Libya!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrtcVd1LASc
    This is a film about the "bold" actions of our rulers in the Libyan question. Who cares.
    1. 11 black
      11 black 26 August 2013 17: 13
      +3
      Quote: S_mirnov
      what Russia can do now, at the diplomatic level we have already done everything we could

      No, "everything we could" - we have already done for Libya!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrtcVd1LASc
      This is a film about the "bold" actions of our rulers in the Libyan question. Who cares.

      Smirnov, whatever you write to Syria, our government hasn’t surrendered for the second year and is not going to donate, it’s not known how our people will answer it, and you’re already yelling that all the gypsum has been removed, they send heavy weapons to Syria insolent, with an escort in the form Peter the Great, Kuzi, Moscow and the 5-6 destroyers, and for the 3-4 snack the 949 submarines, not a single jackal will stop such a squadron!
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      2. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 26 August 2013 23: 53
        -2
        Quote: 11 black
        it’s not known how our people will answer this, but you’re already yelling.

        And why is there unknown, we already washed our hands:
        "Russia will not fight anyone over Syria. This was stated at a press conference in Moscow by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, answering the question of what Russia will do if Western countries launch military strikes against Syria."
        If anything, always make noise for justice, and real affairs = 0
  • Asgard
    Asgard 26 August 2013 11: 44
    +7
    Yes, that will be ||| World Great Slaughter.
    We (Russia) are already included in the scenario of this confrontation.
    Let me remind distinguished comrades that the head of the Defenders of Russia Masson. which means Shoigu will "work out the script" ......
    It will start as a local conflict, BUT it will grow, first on the territory of TURKEY (This is mandatory)) ....
    And then the "Scenario" of the war will get out of control. We remember the mental potential of the "leaders" used (so-called)) - Medvedev, McCain, Obama (generally a Negro)) Oland (Gay European)) ... "Vova" strategist on versions of media and TV)))))
    We remember how the "grandmaster" started the 2nd world, in which Stalin (USSR)) was a VICTIM ...
    HAPPY - the goal is to "zero" the dollar ..., but before the conflict did not enter the territory of the Naglo-Saxons, wait, "internal conflicts" will escalate and there will be a war on the territory of the United States and Britain, they cannot escape this ....
    They understand this and built in the USA-CAMP and bought millions of plastic coffins (for 4 people))) ....

    Yes, and China, TNCs raised for good reason ....
    World Financial Capital, will try to survive compactly on this territory + Kazakhstan (the capital (AStana)) because "THEY" built it to bow to SATAN ... (and it was not the Kazakhs who built pyramids there)))
    Well, + Siberia-like a pantry of minerals ....

    BUT everything goes wrong ....
    A surprise will be for EVERYONE ...
    In their constructions did not take into account the main ...
    Capital-win ALWAYS can’t ...
    He fights "badly" and we have studied him enough, so wait, the "answer", including the military one, will have to be applied to him and contrary to the "scenario" ...
    ...................................................................
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 26 August 2013 12: 01
      +4
      Well wrapped laughing I did not understand about Astana at all.
      1. Essenger
        Essenger 26 August 2013 13: 02
        +4
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        Well wrapped laughing I did not understand about Astana at all.


        These conspiracy therapists))) Astana - Satan
        Like Obama said, Yes we can - thank you Satan;)
        Again about the Masons
      2. 123123123
        123123123 26 August 2013 15: 56
        +1
        And you look at the pictures from above on the buildings of the new Astana and you will see the pentograms ON WHICH THEY ARE BUILT
    2. Horst78
      Horst78 26 August 2013 12: 41
      0
      And what is wrong with Astana? what
  • Setrac
    Setrac 26 August 2013 12: 13
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    The world does not burn for long and a lot of mind is not needed.

    Not only Russians should think about this. You will justify the occupation of Russia in such a way, so as not to "burn the world".
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 13: 54
      0
      Quote: Setrac
      ... You will justify the occupation of Russia in such a way, so as not to "burn the world".

      I can’t even imagine how your brains work. It’s just wassat
    2. ksan
      ksan 26 August 2013 21: 01
      0
      Setrac (1) RU Today, 12:13 ↑

      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The world does not burn for long and a lot of mind is not needed.

      Not only Russians should think about this. You will justify the occupation of Russia in such a way, so as not to "burn the world".
      Well, the conclusion you made !! Romanov spoke out that we need to avoid the 3rd World War. And you're talking about the occupation of Russia, all in a heap. Strange logic, do not find. fellow
  • Danafxnumx
    Danafxnumx 26 August 2013 12: 57
    0
    if our ships embark on the Tartus raid, there will be no war ...
  • s.bukhonoff
    s.bukhonoff 26 August 2013 14: 09
    +2
    In the light of a likely world war, there is an opportunity to deal with the fifth column in Russia. This is with liberal ministers + mass media, etc.
  • karbofos
    karbofos 26 August 2013 14: 16
    +3
    And what amers on Pont take us. limited counterparty must be introduced. the spilled drop of blood of a Russian soldier removes all obligations from Russia and gives rise to the introduction of the main forces up to tactical nuclear weapons. and spit on amers
    1. 123123123
      123123123 26 August 2013 15: 58
      +1
      I support !!
    2. Anatolich
      Anatolich 26 August 2013 18: 02
      +1
      Already found whose drop will be?
      1. karbofos
        karbofos 26 August 2013 19: 18
        0
        of course. at the base in Tartus, in the officer’s canteen, the chef cut his finger. and away we go! on RT there are terrible reports about the shelling of the Russian naval base. There are wounded. one sailor was seriously wounded in the finger. here is the angry statement of the Foreign Ministry about violation of international standards by Syrian militants! The Security Council of the Russian Federation decides to strengthen the defense of its naval base and maintain a no-fly zone over the entire territory of Syria except the Syrian air force. Assistance to the Syrian army in the form of the provision of some intelligence and sending their military experts there in the form of DRB. and then you can tryndet at the UN.
      2. rainufa
        rainufa 26 August 2013 20: 50
        0
        So there are not a few fighters from the North Caucasus, are they not Russian citizens?
  • nycsson
    nycsson 26 August 2013 14: 23
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Specifically, I ask you what Russia can do now, at the diplomatic level we have already done everything we could.

    And what can she do with her army and navy? Nothing.
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Offer to join the warrior on the side of Syria?

    What to enter?
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Then it is 3 world with all that it implies. The world does not burn for long and a lot of mind is not needed.

    When there was a Pakistan-India crisis, we entered. The world was not burned, since we had a powerful fleet.
  • matross
    matross 26 August 2013 14: 52
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    it is 3 world with all that it implies.

    And you can’t fight and you can’t not fight. What to do?! To send troops to Syria urgently. And hope that the amers will not turn up. Afraid. And if they turn up, then there will be no alternatives. Let’s drop Syria - that’s it, we are next ... at most through one, but very quickly ...
  • mcvdvlad
    mcvdvlad 26 August 2013 15: 31
    +2
    option one - an alliance agreement, the introduction of our troops at the request of a legitimate government (the UN mandate is not needed), the sweeping of Syria. and voila, there is no war and the face is saved
  • hollger
    hollger 26 August 2013 19: 57
    0
    3 world, already coming. Do not be naive if our fleet enters Tartus, there will be no attack. Neither they nor we are ready for war. The West is preparing against us ... China!
  • porevith
    porevith 26 August 2013 22: 52
    +1
    What is the third world ??? nobody will do it. And to help Syria, as the USSR, North Korea, Vietnam, Egypt helped. For example, you can use weapons and specialists.
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 26 August 2013 22: 59
      +1
      Most likely it will. It’s not worth recalling the previous world wars, not even nuclear strikes are necessary — today the losses even from conventional weapons will be many orders of magnitude greater. In any case: the loss of Russia is almost everything, the loss of America is the same. And if still an atom, no one wants to die in a thermonuclear hell.
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  • RUS-36
    RUS-36 28 August 2013 00: 08
    0
    At least weapons and equipment to immediately throw Syria and more ...
  • Vlad 1965
    Vlad 1965 28 August 2013 16: 32
    0
    And where did you get the idea that World War 3 will start at once like this?
    Burn down the world, but how does a horse fire differ from a ground or underground fire in peat bogs if you don’t take measures to extinguish it?
    In Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, everything went smoothly among the Amers, the appetite was exorbitant. So who should put an end to the mouth declared by the whole world, the beast, because of which the war does not stop for a minute?
  • IGS
    IGS 31 August 2013 09: 42
    -1
    I feel proud when I read the lines:
    Quote: Alexander Romanov

    Delirium by type - you need to break all you write! Specifically, I ask you what Russia can do now, at the diplomatic level we have already done everything we could. Offer to join the warrior on the side of Syria? Then this is world 3 with all that it implies. The world does not burn for long and a lot of mind is not needed.
    We are still thinking about the whole world, and we don’t want trouble, sincerely ... But I’m afraid that we are less and less. In fact, we have a cruel leader of a drug addict (from an economic point of view) and his henchmen, who have great power, who at the time of breaking do what they want, only to get a dose. And something needs to be done with this. Otherwise, they will drag us all along ...
  • artemiy
    artemiy 26 August 2013 08: 56
    26
    If we with China, Iran do not stand up for Syria, then the price is worthless to us! Anglo-Saxons generally lose fear and crawl on our neck!
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 26 August 2013 10: 32
    -9
    Quote: Denis
    What kind of nonsense, who in general, after the US attack on Syria, will take Russia seriously?

    Soon we will see our tandem clowns on TV again, they will puff out their cheeks and try to save face.

    ps Who does not want the Kadyrov Mosque to become the face of Russia - go to the Russia 10 site
    http://10russia.ru/
    support the Kolomna Kremlin.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 11: 30
      11
      Quote: S_mirnov
      Soon we will see our tandem clowns on TV again,

      Putin is the president of Russia, not a clown. Got it, no? Or it’s harder for you to answer. I got it already, a day does not pass that I did not spit in Russia.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 26 August 2013 11: 37
        -2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Putin is the president of Russia, not a clown

        Yeah, so many serious things!
        "The Vedomosti newspaper has learned about the distribution of grants that President Vladimir Putin has allocated to NGOs. The Institute for Eurasian Studies will receive the largest amount, 9,5 million rubles. on the study of the role of Caucasians in the liberation of the besieged Leningrad. The edition writes about this in the issue of August 26. The Stopham and Piggy Against projects will also receive large grants. "

        And here's even cooler!
        "At a meeting in Rostov-on-Don, the president expressed surprise that Rostov investors have invested considerable funds in Greece, which is experiencing economic difficulties, instead of his native Rostov region, where, in his opinion, a comprehensive system of business support, including small business, has been created. "
        http://expert.ru/2013/08/23/shapku-na-lob/?partner=23507329
        expressed surprise laughing
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 26 August 2013 11: 47
          +9
          Quote: S_mirnov
          Yeah, so many serious things!


          Doubts ?!

        2. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 26 August 2013 12: 02
          +3
          bastard hobbits, stop reading statements.
        3. Setrac
          Setrac 26 August 2013 12: 43
          +2
          Quote: S_mirnov
          “The Vedomosti newspaper learned about the distribution of grants that President Vladimir Putin had allocated to NGOs.

          And what has Putin got to do with it? Deal with the Vedomosti newspaper.
        4. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 12: 46
          +4
          Quote: S_mirnov
          "The newspaper" Vedomosti "learned about the distribution of grants,

          Smirnov, so you say that you are a patriot of Russia. Here they are your "Vedomosti" and their owners, well, your admirers, as I understand it.
          Newspaper "Vedomosti"

          Independent Media, Prof-Media Publishing House

          Derk Sower, Potanin [2]
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 26 August 2013 13: 01
            -5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Newspaper "Vedomosti"

            Independent Media, Prof-Media Publishing House

            Derk Sower, Potanin [2]

            So what? GDP stores gold-equivalent reserves in dollars! And I can’t read the newspaper? In addition, Potanin is a completely domestic oligarch, born and nourished by the political regime that has led our country since the collapse of the USSR and to this day!
            Why are you so alarmed? Or do you have proof that there are no such grants? Maybe "Piggy against" (probably your idols wink ) for their money, life-size puppets sew?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 13: 55
              +5
              Quote: S_mirnov
              So what? GDP stores gold-equivalent reserves in dollars!

              They are calculated in dollars, not stored in them. How many bucks in Russia's gold reserves have already been laid out.
              Why are you so alarmed?
              Talking for the USA and Syria, and here you spit on Putin. It’s much better to see you when an NPO finances the State Department.
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 26 August 2013 14: 39
                -4
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                and here you spit on Putin.

                Why command them to admire? Libya was leaked, and now it’s also draining Syria! Still rejoices at the presence of NATO in Afghanistan!
                It’s amazing to me why you admire him?
              2. 123123123
                123123123 26 August 2013 16: 05
                +3
                Inadequate for some !!
              3. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 26 August 2013 19: 52
                -1
                And what is inadequate? Always ready for dialogue and discussion.
              4. Cynic
                Cynic 26 August 2013 20: 12
                +1
                Quote: 123123123
                it is adequate !!

                No, this is sophistry.
                It’s a pretty decent way to talk obscenely.
            2. Cynic
              Cynic 26 August 2013 20: 02
              +1
              Quote: S_mirnov
              Still rejoices at the presence of NATO in Afghanistan!

              Why not
              USA - 2266 people.
              Great Britain - 444 people
              Canada - 159 people
              Spain - 90 people
              France - 88 people
              Germany - 58 people
              Italy - 52 people
              Denmark - 43 people
              Australia - 40 people.
              Poland - 40 people
              Georgia - 29 people
              Netherlands - 25 people
              Romania - 23 people
              Turkey - 15 people
              New Zealand - 11 people.
              Norway - 10 people
              Estonia - 9 people
              Hungary - 7 people
              Czech Republic - 5 people.
              Sweden - 5 people
              Latvia - 4 people
              Jordan - 2 people
              Portugal - 2 people
              Finland - 2 people
              South Korea - 2 people
              Albania - 1 person
              Belgium - 1 person
              Lithuania - 1 person
              United Arab Emirates - 1 pers.
              Slovakia - 1 person
              Montenegro - 1 person

              The total irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of the coalition countries as of November 21.08.2013, 3438 amounted to XNUMX people.
              Losses of private military and security structures operating in the interests of the coalition amounted to 3006 people.
              Total irretrievable losses - 6444 people.
              The operation continues. Losses will still be ...

              Are you upset by this?
              bully
            3. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 27 August 2013 14: 17
              0
              Fighting in Afghanistan and naturally incurring losses, NATO pursues its own personal goals, on our borders. To dream that our goals coincide with the NATO goals (I mean the goals of the People of the Russian Federation, not the government) is not very smart! Only very narrow-minded people, or those who want to deceive you, can rejoice at the current situation.
              That's the whole logic.
      2. Anatolich
        Anatolich 26 August 2013 18: 18
        0
        Whatever the case, the pigs and stopham are doing good deeds.
  • cosmos111
    cosmos111 26 August 2013 11: 41
    -6
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Putin is the president of Russia, not clown

    Vladimir Putin, the most influential world leader.
    Compared to him, Obama is a puppy.
    His word is law. He will say no to the war in Syria, it will never be.
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 26 August 2013 12: 04
      11
      I would like to believe, but unfortunately the reality is not so rosy. At the moment, the most influential world leader is "capital"
    2. Far East
      Far East 26 August 2013 13: 26
      +5
      Quote: cosmos111
      Vladimir Putin, the most influential world leader.

      yes, let him three times "universal navel!" but how he treats his citizens! mater., abolish capital, raise the retirement age, tariffs for electricity., housing and communal services are growing oh .... whether! and all this in MY country! money they have like a fool MAHORKA! and every year we pull on the STRAP! and after that I have to vote for him, respect? NO! he needs to take care of the citizens of our country!
      1. Anatolich
        Anatolich 26 August 2013 18: 30
        0
        Mat. capital has not yet been canceled, but I think it will not be canceled, I think GDP will not do it. Most likely they will postpone for an indefinite period, soon after all, the elections will be again. They will put daddy to him for signature, and he will threaten them with his finger and say no to the guys too early, and for the fourth term, well, okay.
    3. nycsson
      nycsson 26 August 2013 14: 35
      +5
      Quote: cosmos111
      Vladimir Putin, the most influential world leader.
      Compared to him, Obama is a puppy.
      His word is law. He will say no to the war in Syria, it will never be.

      laughing Made fun of laughing
  • Airman
    Airman 26 August 2013 10: 38
    10
    Quote: Denis
    Quote: Karavan
    Here, here is the hope for sanctions against American producers and debtors.

    What kind of nonsense, who in general, after the US attack on Syria, will take Russia seriously?

    Lavrov in a telephone conversation with Kerry noted that a possible military intervention in Syria is fraught with extremely dangerous consequences for the entire Middle East. The Russian side called for abstaining from pressure on Damascus.
    Kerry promised to carefully study the arguments of the Russian side.
    And if these ARGUMENTS were supported by a powerful Russian fleet, then the Americans would obviously listen to them. But Obama does not solve this issue, he is a puppet in the hands of puppeteers.
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 26 August 2013 12: 48
      +1
      Quote: Povshnik
      And if these ARGUMENTS would be supported by a powerful Russian fleet

      If yes, if only mushrooms would grow in your mouth! So far, these arguments have been reinforced by the American and English fleet in Syria! And our fleet is not there!
      And Lavrov said nothing concrete! All his words are the maximum recommendation! If only he would threaten the base in Ulyanovsk to liquidate or a transit point, or what is it customary to call Putiners there?
  • Scoun
    Scoun 26 August 2013 11: 47
    +5
    Quote: Denis
    What nonsense who after the US attack on Syriawill take Russia seriously?

    Actually .. after the US attack on Syria, China may appear just the same first.
    Debt obligations to China, a quarter of the total oil supplied to the United States from Venezuela.

    American debt has not yet gone anywhere and has not dissolved.
    For the country in economic agonysimilar blows may turn out to be
    so to speak, "saving straw", the United States will send China three letters ... "forgive" everyone their debts .... and then they will start the country from a "clean" sheet .... "overthrow" Babamka, put a new one will be called the United States - New The United States and ends in water .. it’s too big for them, well, they can’t pay it off .. the oligarchic financial elite will still steer if you do not shoot it.
  • nycsson
    nycsson 26 August 2013 14: 26
    +2
    Quote: Denis
    What kind of nonsense, who in general, after the US attack on Syria, will take Russia seriously?

    After we canceled the contract for the supply of C-300 to Iran, no one takes us seriously. crying
  • novobranets
    novobranets 26 August 2013 16: 31
    +2
    If Russia leaves Syria in trouble, it will "lose face", its political weight will fall to the level of the plinth. Who will trust such an ally? We have no way back. No.
  • denson06
    denson06 26 August 2013 21: 43
    0
    It’s still a shame for fraternal Serbia .. but what has changed in our armed forces now in case there is a war? Is the country ready for it now? To direct conflict, I think not ..
    If we add to all of the article listed by the author the support of Russia and China and other government forces of Syria according to the Vietnam War scheme, then it is possible. One cannot cope with such an onslaught, one must be objective .. here along with the rest - there will be a completely different effect! My personal opinion..
  • Artyom
    Artyom 26 August 2013 11: 00
    +3
    what are the sanctions of Russia? Need a hard show of strength! For example, declare war on Qatar and Saudi Arabia. SASHA will shout but will not intercede. And to knock out the entire economy of these states that way for 10 years. There are other ways, but I'm afraid our elite is closer to accounts in Western banks! I have big doubts that Russia will move beyond words somewhere, time is lost. They talked a lot about the S-300, but is it still where the Mediterranean squadron is? Only words and taking on a show-off, even the pind0sy understood it, and are no longer afraid! In short, they pissed away (I still hope not) Syria! I remember Vanga's prophecy. “Repeatedly she spoke about the coming arrival of a new teaching in the world, although the prophetess called this teaching the most ancient.
    “Soon the ancient, wisest teaching will come into the world. People ask me: "Will this time come soon?" - No, not soon. Syria has not yet fallen! "
    And that was 20 years ago. You want to believe, but you want not.
    I wish Syria victory, its people peace, and pind0sam torment!
  • Mairos
    Mairos 26 August 2013 11: 18
    +5
    Business, especially a large one, is supranational and disgusting - for the sake of profit and relations with "partners" the mother will sell her own. What do we have, what do the Chinese have
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 08: 50
    10
    Quote: Civil
    5. All.

    You have a mistake and it is very big.
    1. An attack on Syria will lead to retaliatory attacks on American bases, there is nothing to lose Assad. There are a lot of examples.
    2. Chemistry in Syria is enough for the whole region, including Israel.
    3. One Syria does not end, all the neighbors are drawn into the warrior.
    4. Fire throughout the region and you will not remember that there is a weak pro-Western government. It simply will not.
    1. Trailer
      26 August 2013 08: 59
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      1. An attack on Syria will lead to retaliatory attacks on American bases; there is nothing to lose Assad.
      Can I have at least one?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 10: 02
        +4
        Quote: Karavan
        Can I have at least one?

        The nearest base in Jordan, Israel, Turkey.
    2. Luger
      Luger 26 August 2013 09: 14
      +1
      All that you describe still needs to be done, and this is a bare theory. request
      1. Trailer
        26 August 2013 09: 18
        +1
        Quote: Luger
        and so it’s a bare theory.
        Do not confuse theory with prediction based on trends that are already taking place, and will only intensify if a full-scale war begins.
    3. Muadipus
      Muadipus 26 August 2013 10: 21
      -6
      2. Chemistry in Syria is enough for the whole region, including Israel.

      If Syria uses chemical weapons (WMD) against the same Qatar, that is, on US bases, then the USA will use nuclear weapons.
      1. Muadipus
        Muadipus 26 August 2013 17: 31
        +2
        And besides the minuses, is it weak to substantiate your disagreement with my point of view? Or does anyone have the illusion that the United States is not capable of using nuclear weapons?
        1. MVS
          MVS 26 August 2013 22: 06
          0
          Quote: Muadipus
          Or does anyone have the illusion that the United States is not capable of using nuclear weapons?

          American politicians are far from being idiots, they understand well that we all live on the same planet and they will also get it. The ground operation in such events is likely to be, but without the use of nuclear weapons.
      2. habalog
        habalog 27 August 2013 22: 23
        0
        Syria is not a huge country. There, Israel will flood up with radioactive fallout and fly to Turkey.
        Heavy metals deposited in the soil (not only in Syria) will reduce land fertility to "0". The situation is not the same for the use of weapons of mass destruction of such power.
    4. novobranets
      novobranets 26 August 2013 16: 49
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Fire in the whole region

      The entire Middle East is on fire. What will happen there, neither God nor Allah knows. There will be a monstrous mess. The Kurds, on the sly, will want to chop off a piece for themselves, Israel will decide to "expand" and go and go. Forgotten grievances will immediately be remembered, the settling of scores will begin. I don’t even want to think about what the conflict in one small country could turn out to be for the world.
  • Luger
    Luger 26 August 2013 09: 10
    0
    Most likely it will be so, but all other options are fraught with undesirable consequences for us. Although maybe something extraordinary will come up with ours. what
  • Arti
    Arti 26 August 2013 10: 55
    +3
    Quote: Civil
    4. Both China and Russia, due to economic circumstances, will put up with the loss of the ally.


    Nonsense, as you can imagine - two countries that position themselves as potential centers of power in our time after two years of defending their interests in the UN will simply give up their position, they say, "ah, we are tired of it - do what you want."
  • chemerisov
    chemerisov 26 August 2013 11: 04
    0
    Most likely it will
  • adm656
    adm656 26 August 2013 11: 53
    10
    I would add the sixth point .. All conversations about the revival of Russia can be forgotten .. we will simply cease to be considered .. if we could not protect the only ally who believes in us, what can I say .. all that remains is to lie under the gonsyatin and wipe our snot ..
  • nycsson
    nycsson 26 August 2013 13: 50
    0
    Quote: Civil
    1. A pro-Western weak government.

    Is it with us? Who doesn’t understand this yet?
    Quote: Civil
    2. Sluggish civil war.

    Where?
    Quote: Civil
    4. Both China and Russia, due to economic circumstances, will put up with the loss of the ally.

    Well, where do we go?
  • Per se.
    Per se. 26 August 2013 13: 54
    +2
    Quote: Civil
    3. PMO closes in tartus.
    Maybe, so that the PMO in Tartus does not close, and the problem of aggression against Syria has become more problematic, Russia should have turned this PMO into a legal military base for a long time, and not rush about in doubts about its evacuation? The Russian military presence is a more weighty argument for serious intentions than efforts at the UN alone, especially since the United States on the UN decision has already wiped its smelly shoes. We will lose Syria, then there will be Iran, and the Yankees will come to the shores of the Caspian. Such a fucking movie ...
  • ksan
    ksan 26 August 2013 17: 30
    -1
    Civil (1) RU Today, 08:25 ↑

    If, I repeat, if the USA and K attack Syria, the result is as simple as 3 penny:
    1. A pro-Western weak government.
    2. Sluggish civil war.
    3. PMO closes in tartus.
    4. Both China and Russia, due to economic circumstances, will put up with the loss of the ally.
    5. All.
    In short, yes, I completely agree. Only it seems to me that THIS WAR will be much larger than the "Libyan". Russia and China will not openly intervene in the conflict, of course, but if Assad shows "worthy and lasting" resistance with weapons, they will help. Yes, and Iran you shouldn't write off with Hezbollah, so it won't work as quickly as in Libya.
  • Ka-52
    Ka-52 26 August 2013 17: 32
    0
    The main thing is this quote:
    The above analysis is extremely superficial.

    Everything else is from the evil one.
  • Alex Nick
    Alex Nick 26 August 2013 22: 40
    0
    It’s not so simple as it seems. Perhaps there are pitfalls, something like that ..
  • mnn_13
    mnn_13 27 August 2013 02: 04
    +1
    Etc.
    5. All.


    Very superficially Comrade General, very short-sighted. It will not be all this will be just the beginning. Anglo-Saxons will stop if and only when they get a powerful fist in the face. When Wang said that the third world will begin after the fall of Syria, it was impossible to understand the meaning of these words. Now everything is getting more and more clear.
    Rossi’s problems are not what Tartus will lose in what happens after that ...
  • mihai_md2003
    mihai_md2003 27 August 2013 03: 40
    +1
    Quote: Civil
    If, I repeat, if the USA and K attack Syria, the result is as simple as 3 penny:
    1. A pro-Western weak government.
    2. Sluggish civil war.
    3. PMO closes in tartus.
    4. Both China and Russia, due to economic circumstances, will put up with the loss of the ally.
    5. All.

    And for now, everyone. And in a year or two the same story will repeat itself with Iran. Then they will cut Russia economically (unforgettable about the importance of the region in terms of oil wires) and then, even a little after that, they will climb Russia. They’ll just finish their missile defense and wait until our strategic nuclear forces are reduced to their guaranteed missile defense level. This must be understood today and act accordingly. And then everything looks a little more complicated than a 4-point puzzle. PS. I hope that upstairs there, it’s not the boys from the street who are sitting in the street, and they can calculate the situation for the long term. Maybe they put something in Syria so that it is guaranteed to crash the aircraft carrier, even if not to drown, but so that it was beautiful. This would most sober up the Americans and the most important thing is that we have nothing to do with it.
  • Vasya Ivanov
    Vasya Ivanov 27 August 2013 05: 43
    0
    Not all. The credibility and trust in Russia will drop very much, and this is suicide for us.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 08: 25
    +6
    Quote: DocKlishin
    It feels like the world is going crazy.

    The world went crazy earlier with attacks on Belgrade. It was then that the United States began to lie actively and laid on the UN.
    Quote: DocKlishin
    The question is, how can we restrain Western aggression against Syria?

    Only by sending a military there, no more request
    Quote: DocKlishin
    with 300 whether it is or not

    With 300, the situation will not be reversed, and tamogafs will quickly drown them out.
    Quote: DocKlishin
    . Where is China? Why is Iran silent?

    If they hit Syria, everything will get out of control, what will not be known further, given how much chemistry Assad has and where the missiles can fly. A lot depends on Iran’s position now.
    1. Natalia
      Natalia 26 August 2013 09: 38
      14
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Quote: DocKlishin
      The question is, how can we restrain Western aggression against Syria?
      Only by sending a military there, no more


      That's right, Sasha ... and you have to be complete idiots to let the Qatari people lay a gas pipe to Europe.
      Hi, by the way. wink
      At the same time, it is not necessary to fight with anyone (well, or at least with the United States) since they themselves will not attack the positions of the Russian troops.
      The winner will be the one who first occupies the territory. If the Americans are the first to take positions, we will not attack them, if we take them they will not risk us either. winked
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 09: 45
        +4
        Natasha hi
        Quote: Natalia
        .and you have to be complete idiots to let the Qatari people lay a gas pipe to Europe.

        Pipe in clubs sarin what Yes, the forests are laying, all fun for the terrorists laughing
        Quote: Natalia
        since they themselves will not attack the positions of the Russian troops.

        This is the only thing that can stop them, but ours will not be sent request
        Quote: Natalia
        The winner will be the one who first occupies the territory.

        Maybe we will immediately borrow Washington wink
        1. Armata
          Armata 26 August 2013 11: 00
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Maybe we will immediately borrow Washington
          Not without Sparrow I will not go. You have not abandoned your dream of a paid toilet in the oval office? laughing
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 12: 19
            +4
            Quote: Mechanic
            You have not abandoned your dream of a paid toilet in the oval office?

            Cabins have already been purchased, you have 10 visits for free wink
        2. Natalia
          Natalia 26 August 2013 11: 07
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The pipe in the clubs Sarin Yes, the Forests are laying, all fun for the terrorists

          With your lips and honey to drink ... wink
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          This is the only thing that can stop them, but ours will not be sent

          here he is .....
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Maybe we will immediately borrow Washington

          come on then all over California bully
          Schwarzenegger will give me a heel massage, Brad Pete bring me slippers, and Jason Statham turn the lights on and off ... oh yes, and Sitven Seagal will be my personal cook bully
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 12: 21
            +2
            Quote: Natalia
            Schwarzenegger will give me a heel massage, Brad Pete bring me slippers, and Jason Statham turn the lights on and off ... oh yes, and Sitven Seagal will be my personal cook

            Hm, well, and your appetites wassat
            1. Natalia
              Natalia 26 August 2013 17: 35
              -1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Hm, well, and your appetites

              Yes, yes ... I have great appetites, although I don’t eat a lot of starchy foods (something dietary), that's why Steven Seagal will be my cook winked
              1. Anatolich
                Anatolich 26 August 2013 18: 36
                +1
                Seagal is already old and doesn’t know how to cook, better I’ll be a cook :)
                1. Natalia
                  Natalia 26 August 2013 19: 35
                  -1
                  Quote: Anatolich
                  Seagal is already old and doesn’t know how to cook, better I’ll be a cook :)

                  laughing laughing laughing
                2. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 26 August 2013 20: 38
                  +3
                  Quote: Anatolich
                  Seagal is already old and doesn’t know how to cook, better I’ll be a cook :)

                  Do you have bulletproof vest?
                  laughing
      2. Papakiko
        Papakiko 26 August 2013 10: 27
        +5
        Quote: Natalia
        since they themselves will not attack the positions of the Russian troops.

        There are "bearded" ones. And "200 and 300" will go to Mother Russia.
        Quote: Natalia
        and you have to be complete idiots to let the Qatari people lay a gas pipe to Europe.

        Only a gas pipe question?
        Dozens of pipelines can be laid there.
        And who will consume the products of the Afghan collective farmers? Only in weak and not prosperous countries is it possible to repeatedly increase sales.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Maybe we will immediately borrow Washington

        There will be a shortage without London. winked
  • Veles25
    Veles25 26 August 2013 08: 28
    +3
    .....................
    1. Denis
      Denis 26 August 2013 08: 36
      +3
      Quote: Veles25
      Veles25 Today, 08:28 ↑

      Yes, Europe has long stuck its tongue in ... let them continue to be watched.
      1. INTER
        INTER 26 August 2013 09: 29
        +1
        Quote: Denis
        Yes, Europe has long stuck its tongue in ... let them continue to be watched.

        It is true that Europe, like the United States, does not smell here, the main players in TNCs and Israel.
  • artemiy
    artemiy 26 August 2013 09: 33
    +6
    Here you can see who put the chemical weapons! 1.02!
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 26 August 2013 11: 32
      +3
      Artemy, of course, everyone knew and knows that the army does not use chemical weapons, but the Amers do not care deeply about public opinion. These bandits can only be stopped by force.
  • ATATA
    ATATA 26 August 2013 09: 35
    +7
    Quote: DocKlishin
    It feels like the world is going crazy. Here WHERE the French, British and others climb ...

    They do not climb, but those who in fact run these states, This is Zionism.
    Quote: DocKlishin
    Why is Iran silent?

    Iran is just not silent, they warned the west.
    1. igor67
      igor67 26 August 2013 09: 50
      -6
      Quote: ATATA
      Quote: DocKlishin
      It feels like the world is going crazy. Here WHERE the French, British and others climb ...

      They do not climb, but those who in fact run these states, This is Zionism.
      Quote: DocKlishin
      Why is Iran silent?

      Iran is just not silent, they warned the west.

      Dear, maybe change the plates, Zionism, Zionism, in Syria the interests of Gazprom (Russia) and Qatar clashed with Saudi Arabia, I live 40 km from the border with Syria and 1000 to Damascus, do you really think that Israel can benefit from a last but strong salvo of missiles, not water pipes.?
      1. Armata
        Armata 26 August 2013 10: 15
        +8
        Quote: igor67
        that Israel can benefit from the last but strong volley of missiles, not water pipes.?
        Hi Igor. Believe me, those who decide on the lower tip of the tie and on you and on your neighbors and even on the neighboring country. The question is different. If the Yankees with the support of Israel and the Turks climb into Syria, this will be a direct termination of any relations with Russia, China, etc. They don’t care about the mattress covers, but Israel will have to squeeze it out for a long time (think how the economy of Israel will fuck it) then with its neighbors, and it will not seem to the Turks (it will most likely come out of them like Egypt).
        1. igor67
          igor67 26 August 2013 10: 21
          +1
          Quote: Mechanic
          Quote: igor67
          that Israel can benefit from the last but strong volley of missiles, not water pipes.?
          Hi Igor. Believe me, those who decide on the lower tip of the tie and on you and on your neighbors and even on the neighboring country. The question is different. If the Yankees with the support of Israel and the Turks climb into Syria, this will be a direct termination of any relations with Russia, China, etc. They don’t care about the mattress covers, but Israel will have to squeeze it out for a long time (think how the economy of Israel will fuck it) then with its neighbors, and it will not seem to the Turks (it will most likely come out of them like Egypt).

          Hi Zhenya !! I think about it every day, I am drifting on the sky, I think I’m wondering .....? !!!!! drinks
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 10: 21
        +7
        Quote: igor67
        Dear, maybe change the records, Zionism, Zionism, in Syria, the interests of Gazprom (Russia) and Qatar clashed with Saudi

        Igor AU ??? What pipelines, they only plan. Nabucco is already built lol Not Qatar plays a role there, but the United States.
        Quote: igor67
        Do you really think that the last but strong salvo of missiles can benefit Israel?

        Judging by how events are developing, this is exactly so.In a telephone conversation with The Times of Israel, a representative of the Yarmouk Martyrs' Brigade (this group abducted UN peacekeepers in March and May), Laet Horan said: “We fight only with Assad. “We don’t need anything from Israel, and we want Israel to know about it.”
        “We have no complaints against third countries, we just want to deal with Assad,” Horan emphasized. In an interview with The Times of Israel, Horan went so far as not stingy with praise for Israel, which provides medical assistance to rebels wounded in border areas. Currently, about two dozen rebels are undergoing treatment in Israeli hospitals, and an Israeli field hospital has been deployed to provide immediate assistance to the wounded near the border.

        Israeli generals are not far behind

        Israel accuses Assad of using chemical weapons
        An Israeli general accuses the forces of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad of using chemical weapons during a civil conflict. Brigadier General Itay Brun at a military conference said that Syria used such weapons
        1. igor67
          igor67 26 August 2013 10: 28
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: igor67
          Dear, maybe change the records, Zionism, Zionism, in Syria, the interests of Gazprom (Russia) and Qatar clashed with Saudi

          Igor AU ??? What pipelines, they only plan. Nabucco is already built lol Not Qatar plays a role there, but the United States.
          Quote: igor67
          Do you really think that the last but strong salvo of missiles can benefit Israel?

          Judging by how events are developing, this is exactly so.In a telephone conversation with The Times of Israel, a representative of the Yarmouk Martyrs' Brigade (this group abducted UN peacekeepers in March and May), Laet Horan said: “We fight only with Assad. “We don’t need anything from Israel, and we want Israel to know about it.”
          “We have no complaints against third countries, we just want to deal with Assad,” Horan emphasized. In an interview with The Times of Israel, Horan went so far as not stingy with praise for Israel, which provides medical assistance to rebels wounded in border areas. Currently, about two dozen rebels are undergoing treatment in Israeli hospitals, and an Israeli field hospital has been deployed to provide immediate assistance to the wounded near the border.

          Israeli generals are not far behind

          Israel accuses Assad of using chemical weapons
          An Israeli general accuses the forces of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad of using chemical weapons during a civil conflict. Brigadier General Itay Brun at a military conference said that Syria used such weapons

          I think Babama put pressure and very hard, until this minute Israel was officially neutral, but here, before the bombing, the barns need allies, if the UN does not agree to "democracy", ours and Abu Mazen sat down at the negotiating table, there, too, the games began
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 12: 23
            0
            Quote: igor67
            but here, before the bombing of the barns, allies are needed, if the UN does not agree to "democracy"

            Already have it all hi Britain will not be guided by the UN Security Council in resolving the Syrian issue, reports Reuters

            RIA News. Turkey will join any coalition against the regime of Bashar al-Assad, even if there is no official decision of the UN Security Council, Reuters reported on Monday, citing the country's Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu
      3. ATATA
        ATATA 26 August 2013 16: 00
        0
        Quote: igor67
        Dear, maybe change the plates, Zionism, Zionism, in Syria the interests of Gazprom (Russia) and Qatar clashed with Saudi Arabia, I live 40 km from the border with Syria and 1000 to Damascus, do you really think that Israel can benefit from a last but strong salvo of missiles, not water pipes.?

        Well, judging by the statement of your president that the world community MUST (again, something Israel should) withdraw chemical weapons from Syria, then yes. The rulers of Israel from Syria, something is needed.
        P.S. We all share Jews and Zionism, just as we separate Germans and fascism.
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 26 August 2013 10: 04
    +6
    This is the third world, can not be called otherwise. Russia is unlikely to be able to do anything, too late, and the current leadership of the country will not have enough political will. I hope at least modern weapons have been put. In addition to armaments, you can transfer mercenaries to fight on Assad’s side, Hezbollah, Iran and other allies should do the same, and everyone who supports Syria. Do not give the opportunity to the United States, Israel to eliminate Assad and seize the country. In general, this is a spit in the face of Russia. World insanity.
    The next step, after the destruction of Syria and Iran, is waiting for the bearded men in Russia. Although they are already here now, for those who do not think so and are in euphoria from the Universiade and the "great accomplishments" of United Russia and our government, I propose to take off their eyes and cook their glamorous, liberal "point" if there is no dough to dump abroad ...
  • smersh70
    smersh70 26 August 2013 10: 27
    21 th
    Quote: DocKlishin
    The question is, how can we restrain Western aggression against Syria?



    Yes, no matter how !!!! Everything is over .. earlier Assad had to think when the first demonstrations took place .. it was necessary to carry out reforms .... let off steam .... he doesn’t even have the strength to defend against some rebels - collective farmers, not to mention the US military machine !!!!!!!! look at his equipment, they are fighting without infantry, because the main part has fled ... so soon he will die .... hi
    1. Lech from ZATULINKI
      Lech from ZATULINKI 26 August 2013 10: 32
      12
      Oh oh we give up.
      If the Vietnamese listened to such arguments, they would have long lost the war against the United States.
      Thank God there were people in VIETNAM able to give an organized rebuff to the US military machine.
      ASAD will fight to the end and surrender to the grace of the United States is not going to - well done and we must support him in all directions.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 26 August 2013 10: 42
        +2
        Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
        If the Vietnamese listened to such arguments, they would have long lost the war against the United States.


        compared Vietnam and Syria !!!!!!!! at that time the USSR was behind Vietnam and not just standing ... but there was a confrontation between 2 systems ... and the USSR was helping both with armaments and people ... and money .... plus also China ... why don’t I see Russian calculations of the S-300 in Syria .... or Chinese volunteers .. fellow fighting for the construction of the communist system in Syria .... Probably Assad is definitely not Ho Chi Minh .... by the way, remember 1983, how his father shot the Communists .... where were you then ... by the way the Communist Party was banned there .. .. smile ..
        1. Lech from ZATULINKI
          Lech from ZATULINKI 26 August 2013 10: 49
          +5
          Of course, you know, the regimes supported by the USA also committed crimes.
          Moreover, these were massacres in the name of so-called democracy.

          As for assistance to ASADU, you are well aware of assistance from Iran, as well as about the supply of weapons to ASADU from RUSSIA (I emphasize the legitimate ones)
          in contrast to the illegal supply of weapons to killers and cannibals from the opposition (WEAPON GOES IN A POWERFUL FLOW from LIBYA from the warehouses of GADDAFI).
    2. Simon
      Simon 26 August 2013 11: 33
      +2
      Remember my friend, a wounded beast is always more dangerous, because he has nowhere to go and he will fight to the last. Especially in the Assad army, people who lost their loved ones in this war, children and parents who were brutally killed by bandits with lousy beards are fighting. The Syrians are now taking revenge in the foreground and I am sure that it will be very difficult for the Amers to fight with this people, especially since the Syrian people can go to a guerrilla war, and it is very difficult and useless to fight a people who are not afraid of fighting. Amer if they enter Syria for being stuck there for a long time and no technology will help them.
      1. alekseinew
        alekseinew 26 August 2013 16: 09
        +1
        this, of course, is all right and I would like it to be if these dumbheads climb into Syria, but they all said the same thing about Iraq and Libya, only where is Sadam and Gaddafi now, it's not fun
    3. Sandov
      Sandov 26 August 2013 11: 40
      +2
      Quote: smersh70
      Yes, no matter how !!!! It's over .. earlier Assad had to think when the first demonstrations took place.


      There was taka in Spain - Dolores Ibaruri. Her words - Better to die standing than to live on your knees.

      And in a literal and figurative sense.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 26 August 2013 13: 29
        +2
        Quote: Sandov
        Better to die standing than to live on your knees.



        I agree! Super words !!!!!!!!
        but Ibarruri did not fulfill these words ... emigrated to the USSR where she died in the 80s ..... but her son heroically fought and died near Stalingrad !!!!!!!! .. so if you say high-flown the words ... must be carried out ...... by the way, but whoever minus do not go to Syria to write down Assad, I know inters ....... maybe you don’t know the way ... I can tell .... .....
    4. The Indian Joe
      The Indian Joe 26 August 2013 12: 22
      +2
      he doesn’t even have the strength to defend against some collective farmer rebels
      - nonsense. Wild ravings of a man who does not know the materiel at all and is not familiar with the situation in Syria would go superficially. Less to you.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 26 August 2013 13: 14
        0
        Quote: Native American Joe
        he doesn’t even have the strength to defend against some collective farmer rebels
        - nonsense. Wild ravings of a man who does not know the materiel at all and is not familiar with the situation in Syria would go superficially. Less to you.


        Oh well! And we didn’t know .. Asal controls all the entrances and exits of the country (border control, customs terminals ... cities, roads ....) .... look at the maps and information from the combat zones .... lost half of the country, if not more ...... or watch a video from battlefields .. tanks alone in the city, without cover ... infantry following tanks ..... no sweep groups can be seen .. battles already go 5 km from the international airport I understand, many here for it ... but the reality is .. whether you want it or not ..... the same thing you said here about Libya ... and about Turkey ..... that we will protect Ltviya that Erdogan will fall ... nothing of the kind happened ..... and soon he will be finished, although I am against Wahhabis ..... hi
  • Dimonanet
    Dimonanet 26 August 2013 10: 49
    +5
    It’s not easy, Russia got the right to host the Olympics, the World Cup 18 and a bunch of other championships at the highest level ... The United States and Europe thereby take away huge funds from the country for infrastructure development, rather than building up military force ... And then they also boycott ! In general, another tricky knight move and pressure lever!
  • Su24
    Su24 26 August 2013 11: 52
    +1
    The above analysis is extremely superficial


    Yeah, and very))

    Quote: Denis
    I’m answering you specifically, Russia will not do anything. You can fight with the wrong hands, you could arm Syria, as the United States arms Israel


    What makes you think that Russia will not do anything, can rational argument be given? The coordinated position of Hezbollah, Syria, Iran, Russia and China can block the United States, even at the military level. In my opinion, no one wants to bring the situation to a global crisis.
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 26 August 2013 12: 47
    0
    "Turkey will join any international coalition that opposes Syria, even if a broader consensus on military action is not reached in the UN Security Council. This statement was made on Monday, August 26, by Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu." - another six bares its teeth.
  • Yuriy3005
    Yuriy3005 26 August 2013 13: 33
    +1
    The only adequate option is the introduction into Syria of a limited Russian-Iranian-Chinese peacekeeping contingent with its housing in areas outside of active hostilities. There will be VERY many howling Anglo-Saxon geeks, but they will not be able to do anything, and the open bombardment of Syria will already mean the direct start of the 3rd World War, no matter how crazy they are, they won’t do that
  • nycsson
    nycsson 26 August 2013 13: 48
    -1
    Quote: DocKlishin
    The question is, how can we restrain Western aggression against Syria?

    No way. This is a no brainer. Diplomacy ends. But there’s no muscle.
    Quote: DocKlishin
    Where is China? Why is Iran silent?

    Who wants to get on the rampage? Today in the world there is no force capable of withstanding the US army. I’m generally silent about NATO.
    Quote: DocKlishin
    debts then write off sysh as it should ...

    The USA has no debts. There is a scam for divorcing countries that are addicted to dollars.
  • eplewke
    eplewke 26 August 2013 14: 34
    +2
    Raise the entire Black Sea Fleet to high alert, and the Caucasian Military District, bring the Strategic Missile Forces and Space Forces into combat mode, and conduct exercises to relocate the SV to Novorossiysk. And Putin will make an urgent visit to Beijing. This will cool the hot heads of pseudo-democrats.
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 26 August 2013 15: 35
      +1
      Quote: eplewke
      Raise the entire Black Sea Fleet to higher combat readiness,

      The entire Black Sea fleet is not suited to Turkish soles .....
      Quote: eplewke
      and the Caucasian Military District

      Southern Military District ...
      Quote: eplewke
      Bring troops of the Strategic Missile Forces and Space Forces into combat mode; Conduct exercises for the redeployment of SV to Novorossiysk And Putin will make an urgent visit to Beijing.

      And the Anglo-Saxons should block our accounts in their banks (both official and non-official; put under house arrest their children who live and study there; lower the price of a barrel of oil, at least 20 dollars, that's enough for us; refuse to purchase Russian gas and switch to Qatari; and also block the sale of food to us.
      Quote: eplewke
      This will cool the hot heads of pseudo-democrats.

      It will cool all our heads! wassat
  • Basil123
    Basil123 26 August 2013 17: 58
    0
    It seems to me that now it’s really 1 acceptable way to introduce a couple of regiments of peacekeepers and stupidly wait. So we will save the face of our country. Well, it will be clear what the West is seeking. To bomb the Russian military ................ means they want this. So at least the initiative will be with us. And to deliver weapons insolently. hi
  • alone
    alone 26 August 2013 18: 33
    +2
    the world is not crazy. Americans and their allies carry out their programs. Alas, but this is a real fact.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 26 August 2013 19: 33
    +2
    For the French, Italians, English, Africa and the Middle East are traditional patrimonies if you are not in the know. In particular, Syria is a former protectorate of France.
    China defends its interests, Syria is violet to him. More precisely, not quite at all - a mess is beneficial for China, because it weakens both Russia and the countries of the West.

    Iran is not silent, it actively sponsors Syria and sends military specialists.
  • Onotollah
    Onotollah 26 August 2013 19: 43
    +1
    Quote: DocKlishin
    The question is, how can we restrain Western aggression against Syria?

    Colleagues, I have found a solution to the problem.
    If Russia does not stand in direct confrontation with the NATO bloc (and not really necessary) and cannot defeat it completely and completely without significant losses, then I suggest that this NATO block is naeb .. in the sense of showing a military trick.
    The thought is simple to disgrace: Russia itself needs to declare war on Syria (or Syria of Russia) and quickly conquer this state within 2-3 hours, where human rights are so grossly violated. This war will go down in history not only as the fastest, but also the fastest bloodless - after all, during all 2 hours of the war, not a single person was injured or injured !!! Naturally bloody dictator Assad will be transported to Sochi where he will be detained from the guria in some strict 5-star prison hotel. After 20-30 years of meticulous proceedings of the crime will not be detected and he will be acquitted.
    Meanwhile, in order to restore order, restore democracy, human rights and the economy, the Russian Armed Forces OKV, parts of the IRGC to protect Iran’s borders and prevent the infiltration of militants, as well as 3-5 million Chinese volunteer workers to deal with the rubble will be introduced into captured Syria.
    And this is a completely different calico and it is unlikely that our sworn friends will go into the country where there are peaceful foreign specialists and where the parts and formations of peaceful Russian tractors are located.
    In the meantime, the countries will unanimously restore the Syrian economy, time will pass, and there you look and Assad will return home.
    Well something like that.
    Well, what is it, if there are football contractual matches, why not be a contract war? Politics, ep.
    1. atalef
      atalef 26 August 2013 19: 54
      +3
      Quote: Onotolle
      Colleagues, I have found a solution to the problem.


      Quote: Onotolle
      Meanwhile, in order to restore order, restore democracy, human rights and the economy, the Russian Armed Forces OKV and parts of the IRGC will be introduced into captured Syria to protect Iran’s borders and prevent militant infiltration

      As I understand it, the son of ONOTOLE, the same udet is part of the contingent, and the pope will be glad if he gives his life for the freedom of Syria, like thousands of Russians like him.
      By the way, regarding the ksir - deuce to you - a miserable likeness of ONOTOL - Syria and Iran do not have a common border.

      Quote: Onotolle
      as well as 3-5 millions of Chinese volunteer workers to clear up the rubble.

      As I understand it, the same you will pay for these volunteers. And, that the Syrians are not accustomed to receive for free, now the Chinese volunteers will rake rubble for them
      1. Onotollah
        Onotollah 26 August 2013 21: 18
        0
        Quote: atalef
        By the way, regarding the ksir - deuce to you - a miserable likeness of ONOTOL - Syria and Iran do not have a common border.

        So if your quick wits could argue on an equal footing with your self-confidence, you would understand that in this situation it doesn’t matter: does Iran have a border with Syria, does Iran have a border with Syria, the main thing is that everything is fine with you.
        But the United States, with neither Libya nor Iraq, has a common border, nonetheless.
        Quote: atalef
        As I understand it, the son of ONOTOLE, the same udet is part of the contingent, and the pope will be glad if he gives his life for the freedom of Syria, like thousands of Russians like him.

        You say so, as if there was something bad about it.

      2. Onotollah
        Onotollah 26 August 2013 21: 24
        0
        Quote: atalef
        As I understand it, the same will pay for these volunteers.

        Well, I believe that 3-5 million Chinese will feed themselves, because there are so many small, but proud and rich countries.
    2. alone
      alone 26 August 2013 20: 30
      +1
      remembered the janitor from "12 chairs"))) is it possible to get so drunk for a ruble? - you can.
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 27 August 2013 13: 35
    0
    What is one S-300 division? Air defense, able to repel an attack from the air say squadron fu-16. But if the fu-16s fly in their own airspace and each 3-4 missiles are launched from there, then the s-300 will not save. It will simply be destroyed. Of course, the same s-300 can bring down these aircraft, but then there will be a serious precedent - an attack on the air forces of a sovereign state, and in this case no one will help Syria. So the S-300 is essentially the Russian response to the West that we are not giving in. There is no question of defense here!
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  • faraon
    faraon 26 August 2013 08: 11
    +4
    I give a good article a plus, a good analysis. Thanks to the author for the work done.
    Just nothing to add.
  • Denis
    Denis 26 August 2013 08: 11
    +2
    The United States does not care about its allies, they are all on a short leash .. and Russia is far away.
    1. Airman
      Airman 26 August 2013 09: 05
      +2
      Quote: Denis
      The United States does not care about its allies, they are all on a short leash .. and Russia is far away.

      And here our powerful Navy with aircraft carriers that are not there would be useful. But BDK aircraft carriers and frigates cannot be stopped. We do not have the strength to confront the Americans at sea, with the exception of the submarine fleet. And I don’t think that the USA and Co. are bluffing.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 10: 36
      0
      Quote: Denis
      and Russia is far away.

      How many Russian citizens are in Syria?
      1. Denis
        Denis 26 August 2013 12: 18
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        How many Russian citizens are in Syria?

        Does the USA care?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 26 August 2013 14: 00
          -1
          Quote: Denis
          Does the USA care?

          And you?
          1. Denis
            Denis 26 August 2013 14: 09
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And you?

            Excites, and not only me alone.
      2. atalef
        atalef 26 August 2013 19: 56
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        How many Russian citizens are in Syria?

        10 times less than in Israel (or maybe more), something has changed, now you want to breastfeed for Israel? By the way, there are more than a million Russian citizens in the USA, what will we do?
      3. Corsair
        Corsair 26 August 2013 21: 32
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        How many Russian citizens are in Syria?


        And yet? How many? Is there a source on the site "close" to the Russian Foreign Ministry?
  • Ivan79
    Ivan79 26 August 2013 08: 11
    +1
    I do not believe that this will happen.
    1. Denis
      Denis 26 August 2013 08: 12
      +7
      Quote: Ivan79
      I do not believe that this will happen.

      And who and what can prevent them ??? And most importantly, how?
      1. fedorovith
        fedorovith 26 August 2013 08: 59
        +8
        They can only be prevented by one furious blow, otherwise it will be infinite, because they need to live on something, and robbery of these people is the norm of life. They created their country in a similar way.
        1. Veter
          Veter 26 August 2013 09: 02
          -1
          Quote: fedorovith
          They can only be prevented by one furious blow.


          Only nuclear weapons will save the world from bandits from the highway, and this is still unacceptable
        2. Andrey312
          Andrey312 26 August 2013 09: 47
          +4
          Instead of delivering anti-ballistic, anti-aircraft and anti-ship weapon systems to Syria, we clapped our ears and believed in the non-intervention of the West in the conflict. If there was a danger that not all taking off planes would return, and not all ships sailing to Syria would be able to sail, the United States and its allies would not have issued anything except formidable warnings ....
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 26 August 2013 12: 26
            +5
            Quote: Andrey312
            Instead of delivering anti-ballistic, anti-aircraft and anti-ship weapon systems to Syria, we clapped our ears and believed in the non-intervention of the West in the conflict.


            I wonder what they carry "THERE"

            "Schedule" of the movement of Russian large landing ships to the shores of Syria:

            08.12.12 "Novocherkassk" and "Saratov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            27.12.12 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            01.01.13 "Novocherkassk" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            09.01.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            09.01.13 "Saratov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            12.01.13 "Novocherkassk" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            14.01.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            17.01.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            2? .01.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            04.02.13 "Azov" and "Saratov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            07.02.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            21.02.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            25.03.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            12.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            14.04.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            ??. 04.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            23.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            30.04.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            05.05.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            1? .05.13 "Azov", "Alexander Shabalin" and "Kaliningrad" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            19.05.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            ??. 05.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            23.05.13 "Admiral Nevelskoy" and "Relight" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            27.05.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            17.06.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            20.06.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            01.07.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            13.07.13 “Alexander Shabalin” and “Kaliningrad” - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            ??. 07.13 "Azov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            26.07.13 "Azov" and "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            31.07.13 “Minsk” and “Alexander Shabalin” - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            ??. 08.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            11.08.13 "Minsk" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            17.08.13 "Nikolai Filchenkov" - from the Mediterranean Sea.
            18.08.13 "Admiral Nevelskoy" and "Relight" - to the Mediterranean Sea.
            20.08.13 "Azov" and "Alexander Shabalin" - to the Mediterranean Sea.

            Photo Shoot: BDK "Alexander Shabalin" (110) of the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation in the Dardanelles
            1. lds040580
              lds040580 27 August 2013 11: 48
              0
              I welcome, but do not tell me the link, where did you get this schedule?
        3. alone
          alone 26 August 2013 18: 44
          +1
          can you indicate a document stating that Russia is the guarantor of Syria’s security?
          if there is no such document, and nothing will hinder to do, then they are going to do
      2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 26 August 2013 09: 02
        +1
        And if our ships will shoot down Amer’s cruise missiles ?! What will happen?)
        1. Grigorich 1962
          Grigorich 1962 26 August 2013 09: 58
          11
          this is a question ...... it is necessary to embark on the Tartus raid to our ships ..... then we'll see .....
          political and military will is needed for this ..... in short we are weakly checked
          1. igor67
            igor67 26 August 2013 10: 04
            -2
            Quote: Grigorich 1962
            this is a question ...... it is necessary to embark on the Tartus raid to our ships ..... then we'll see .....
            political and military will is needed for this ..... in short we are weakly checked

            Already stood last year during the London Olympics, so what? How much then they discussed on the site, because everyone left then both the Amers and the British, there is simply not political will, or maybe economic, all one lion's share of gas sales will go to Miller, maybe Chubais and K,
        2. Sandov
          Sandov 26 August 2013 11: 44
          +3
          In principle, they could help the humanitarian people of Syria to destroy not only cruise missiles, but also natofascist aviation.
        3. alone
          alone 26 August 2013 18: 46
          0
          ships can only respond when the Russian PMTO is attacked in tartus or the ships themselves. but the us and the allies are not stupid. they will not go for it
      3. gispanec
        gispanec 26 August 2013 09: 51
        14
        Quote: Denis
        And who and what can prevent them ??? And most importantly, how?

        It’s elementary to put Moscow and Kerch on both Tartus’s roads (both have a 300F) .... drive a Warsaw woman (at least from the north, at least where + a couple of patrol guards + from the north to BPC + conduct ongoing exercises in the area and declare the area a no-fly zone in connection with the exercises) and gradually replace the carts from Tof or from the North + Baltic ... and so on for a year !!!! ...... No one dares to start flying overhead to Syria !!
        1. Volkhov
          Volkhov 26 August 2013 14: 28
          -3
          Quote: gispanec
          put on the raid of Tartus Moscow

          Bet - the virtual fleet is obedient ... and big already.
        2. alone
          alone 26 August 2013 18: 48
          +1
          what Do you think they will not find where to bomb Syria from? There is still a border with Jordan, Turkey, Iraq, Israel. Will there also put ships on the roadstead?))
    2. Ivan79
      Ivan79 26 August 2013 09: 00
      0
      I wonder why they rolled me a minus? Does anyone really want the situation in Syria to be aggravated many times?
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 26 August 2013 10: 08
        0
        Quote: Ivan79
        I wonder why they rolled me a minus?

        What are you so for + - worried?
        Are you here for their sake or do you defend your point of view?
        Quote: Ivan79
        Does anyone really want the situation in Syria to be aggravated many times?

        And there, and so not the "Maldives" and not the first day a loaf of bread crumbled to Syria, Iran, Russia.
        Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
        And if our ships will shoot down Amer’s cruise missiles ?! What will happen?)

        They will fly the other way.
        1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 26 August 2013 10: 29
          +2
          Quote: Papakiko
          They will fly the other way.

          If you are hinting that in our direction, then I think that you got excited! hi
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 26 August 2013 12: 00
            +2
            Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
            If you are hinting that in our direction, then I think that you got excited!

            Wai-wai some kind of joker panimaesh ZhPSi completely lost his mind and the rockets flew to drown, and there your ship was walking around a vokurat. How not Harasho happened. A-I-yay, A-Z-YA-y!

            Is Kursk not enough for you?
            1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
              GELEZNII_KAPUT 26 August 2013 14: 03