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Yuri Polyakov: “The authorities are criticized, but no one wants to be in her place”

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“Now, when the authorities are trying to somehow fix the situation, they all fell upon it with complaints. Nobody wants to try on her skin! ”- says Yuri Polyakov


The threat of the West

Sergei Grachev, AiF: Yuri Mikhailovich, your colleague Andrei Bitov believes that the government has almost built a wireless GULAG in the country. Do you share similar views?

Yuri Polyakov: Of course not! I do not understand, but what, in fact, is this Gulag ?! In the fact that the TV presenter on the air promises to hang the historian Yuri Zhukov? Or is it that Ekho Moskvy radio broadcasts the ideology of the West to us? Well, Bits says that the government suppressed the protest movement. And what was it, this movement? What were you protesting against? Against rigged elections to the Duma? This is complete nonsense! The rigged elections were in 1996, when Yeltsin was “elected”. Everybody is silent about this, preferring not to recall.

The current situation is much more complicated than our liberally-minded writers are trying to present it. Everything goes back to 1993, when a conflict arose between the legislative and executive powers. The reform policy across the knee provoked popular resistance. As a result, the parliament, which represented the position of the opposing majority, was shot. Yeltsin just sent everyone to hell. But neither Bitov nor the other liberal writers were embarrassed at the time, although I personally opposed such a turn of events. Then, in the fall of 1993, the country was at a fork! What do you want today if you yourself have launched the express Russian stories in this direction? Putin (such is the inexorable logic of history) - a machinist. He leads the country along the rails on which you moved the arrow.

S.G. "AIF": With 1993, about which you speak, exactly 20 years have passed. Why, then, have they started talking about autocracy, authoritarianism, usurpation? Do you have an explanation for this?

Yu.P .: Yes. In the 90, when Yeltsin led Russia to become a raw material and political appendage of the West, and possibly a conglomeration of independent neoplasms, the West was completely satisfied. As soon as Putin appeared with his idea of ​​returning sovereignty, the situation changed. Now we have every bit in the string! Judge for yourself: we have banned gay parades - and how many reproaches, how much condemnation from the West! And when the parliament was shot, no one in the world seemed to notice that much! And now, when the authorities are trying to somehow fix the situation - yes, with some kind of excesses, sometimes with stupid things, - they actively began to state complaints.

S.G. "AIF": I do not understand what the West is about and talk about the authoritarianism of power ...

Yu.P.: And while most liberal writers live by translating their books in the West. And this concerns not only writers. Many so-called opposition members also live on foreign grants. This must be said honestly. This is the first. And secondly, there are quite a few people, including among the intelligentsia, who firmly believe that the West wishes us only good. You start talking with such people, you ask: “If we have agreed with the West on disarmament, then why, despite all the promises, is NATO already near by us ?! If we are partners, if we agreed, why did their military bases practically put us to the temple ?! ”They don’t know the answer.

Probably, the conflict goes far deep into our history. The civilization code that we inherited from Byzantium doesn’t like the West very much. It always has been. In this, too, we must honestly admit, as well as that there is a powerful inter-civilizational war.

S.G. "AIF": Suppose you are right. Well, the fact that according to a number of polls the credibility of the supreme power is persistently falling, is the West also to blame?
Yu.P.: I fully admit that trust is falling. Well, do you know, for example, that the credibility of Barack Obama during his presidency has fallen by two or three times ?! And the credibility of French President Francois Hollande has dropped almost five times in general!

S.G. "AIF": So this is a normal political process?

Yu.P.: That's it! This is the natural course of political life! And there, in the West, they understand and accept it. Yes, a man came to power, did something, could not or did not have time ... And our intelligentsia is not surprised or disturbed by the fact that the same Americans or French, for example, do not go to the streets in droves! What are double standards in judgments?

Tantrums will not help

S.G. AiF: In America and Europe, living standards are high. And we have no cardinal changes for the better in this respect ...
Yu.P.: And why would our standard of living change dramatically? The Soviet system, which was sharpened, albeit at a slow, but increasing this level, was destroyed in 1991. I was not so long ago in the Vologda region ... "Gazprom" has not yet reached there - they are stoking firewood. Has the standard of living increased over the years of new history? For some, yes, but for most, no.

August coup 1991 of the year. Chronicle >>

S.G. "AIF": As a result, Russia ranks first in the world in social inequality ...

Yu.P.: And what, this social gap arose under Putin? These are all the consequences of Yeltsin’s policy! Who told you that if a country was ruined, dismembered, shut down all the factories and sold off national wealth to some freaks at mortgage auctions, then everything can be fixed in 500 days ?! It does not happen! It takes decades. Putin got the ungrateful role of dismantling the chaos in the country. Nobody wants to take the position of power. As history shows, it takes many years of consolidation to lift a country out of chaos. And all the tantrums of the liberals are clearly not conducive to this, which worries me a lot.

S.G. "AIF": But do not you think that the government still sometimes goes beyond what is permissible? When law enforcement officers openly make it clear that you can plant anyone ...

Yu.P.: It's hard to argue with that. The power really sometimes gives unforgivable reasons for the opposition. It is also true that most people do not have the feeling that everything in the country is done according to the law. But this is not a problem of the central government! This is a problem of crisis, corrosion of the judicial system. And I also have a lot of complaints about this. We, the writers, have been struggling for many years with a group of gangsters who seized writers ’property. My house was attacked, my wife was beaten - the investigation did not end there. They burned the writer Oleg Mikhailov along with his house, because he did not want to give in ... We turn to the authorities for help, and they say: "You, the writers, wanted freedom, so figure it out yourself!" But wait a minute! Our bankers also wanted free enterprise. However, when they find themselves in a difficult financial situation, the state rushes to their aid with all its gold reserves. How are writers worse? That's when those who struggle with the government on a commercial basis, including for the money of the West, and those who are offended by it because of bureaucratic indiscretion, unite, then collapse will really come. But here I want with hope to recall the romantic assumption of the poet Nikolai Tikhonov that “people in the Kremlin never sleep” ...
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  1. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 24 August 2013 07: 12 New
    -7
    Well done Yuri Polyakov! The authorities, of course, are not to blame for anything.
    1. The 1990s were to blame (by the way, why not blame Peter the Great? Why did he climb to the West? If he hadn’t, he would have gone with beards).
    2. The crisis, the opposition, the enemies, the dark people are to blame ...
    There are two options for the purpose of this speech: a) Polyakov, perhaps, does not know that power is not only the right to govern, but also the obligation to respond. b) Yuri Polyakov really wants the authorities to pay positive attention to his fight against the "bandits" who seized the "writer's property."
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 24 August 2013 10: 14 New
      +8
      ““ Now, when the authorities are trying to somehow rectify the situation, everyone has come down against it with claims. Nobody wants to try on its skin! ” "Bullshit. If nobody wants to, then I’m personally ready to rule the country!" laughing
      "Who is the last in kings? What is nobody? Then I'm the first!" - Classic!
    2. Uhe
      Uhe 24 August 2013 18: 01 New
      +1
      What are you negating it? This is sarcasm, as I understand it.

      Polyakov is a selling litter and has always been like that. Personally, I have been disgusted since Soviet times.
      1. serge-68-68
        serge-68-68 24 August 2013 18: 11 New
        +1
        Of course sarcasm. Apparently, it was easier to write ... :)
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 August 2013 00: 46 New
      0
      Quote: serge-68-68
      If not for him, they would have walked with beards

      in fact, this was a real bang for Petya.
      Quote: serge-68-68
      but also a duty

      Tell me, did you personally go to the polls?
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 25 August 2013 08: 17 New
        +1
        What's the point? In 96, by his small age, he voted for Uncle P. And he gave power back to EBEN. There are no normal people there. All are tied, each in its own place.
  2. George
    George 24 August 2013 07: 29 New
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    So I was not so long ago in the Vologda Oblast ... Gazprom has still not reached there - they are drowning with wood.

    Like there in the song:
    - Guys, it's our common gas,
    but for some reason dreams come true only for you.
  3. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 24 August 2013 07: 35 New
    +2
    A strange statement, or rather absolutely false. Let them hold fair elections and be 100% sure that power will pass to other people. However, those who lie so frankly are afraid of this, because if more decent people come to power, they will all have to answer before the law for their anti-people’s projects and deeds.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 August 2013 07: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Strange statement, or rather absolutely false

      ++++ !!!
      There will also be people in Russia who are ready to take responsibility. It’s just too painful they are "uncomfortable." So they are not allowed to power. Although the author is right in the fact that in vain the GDP is reproached for authoritarianism. If there was authoritarianism, Serdyukov would have been imprisoned long ago, and all the rich would be shocked who use the mineral resources of Russia to enrich Russia, which belong to the people, but only they themselves are enriched.
      1. a52333
        a52333 24 August 2013 09: 10 New
        +7
        Can you tell me the candidacy? No, understand correctly, I would also be glad that there are pluses in the economy, diversification, etc. But one thing that we MUST pay attention to: the President is the guarantor of the constitution. Within the framework of this constitution, in the presence of THIS LIBERASTIC DUMA, the government is a separate conversation. The president’s hands are more or less untied only in pursuing foreign policy. Hence the difference. Onotolle wrote about this article yesterday. Did not read. We need a new thought, a constitution. And in this mess, which is now only Anal and come.
        1. vladsolo56
          vladsolo56 24 August 2013 09: 13 New
          0
          Candidacy? please, I'm sure that Zyuganov could get no less than Putin. And if, instead, they put an honest young communist, and there are many of them, then there is definitely a guarantee of victory.
          1. a52333
            a52333 24 August 2013 09: 35 New
            15
            Zyuganov, recall, was sitting in the Duma 12 years in the vast majority. And where is the abundance of laws in defense of the interests of the Russian Federation? I am begging you! This State Duma (in its entirety) still needs to be checked with bias for funding from abroad.
            1. Normal
              Normal 24 August 2013 11: 32 New
              +6
              Quote: a52333
              Zyuganov, recall, was in the Duma for 12 years in the vast majority.

              I disdain Zyuganov, but please provide the numbers and dates when the Communist Party faction was overwhelmingly? Under Yeltsin? But then the laws were approved with the signature of the president and if the law did not suit EBN and those who stood behind it, the law was rejected. On the contrary, laws needed by the EBN’s circle were carried out very easily through presidential decrees. If I'm wrong, correct me
              1. a52333
                a52333 24 August 2013 13: 39 New
                +2
                On the contrary, the laws needed by the EBN environment were carried out very easily.
                Here I am about it. Grants. grants.
                So DG 2 convocation
                Communist Party of the Russian Federation 31,38%
                Our home - Russia 14,67%


                List of fractions of the State Duma of Russia of the 2 convocation [1]
                Faction Number of Deputies Percentage
                Communist Party of the Russian Federation 139 31,38%
                Our home - Russia 65 14,67%
                Liberal Democratic Party of Russia 49 11,06%
                Apple 45 10,16%
                The deputy group "Regions of Russia" - independent deputies 44 9,93%
                The deputy group "Democracy" 41 9,26%
                Agrarian deputy group 35 7,90%
                Non-Factional Deputies 19 4,29%
                The Democratic Choice of Russia 6 1,35%
                1. Normal
                  Normal 24 August 2013 16: 08 New
                  +2
                  Quote: a52333
                  Communist Party of the Russian Federation 31,38%

                  31,32% can not be called overwhelming by the majority, well, as well as possible.
              2. alicante11
                alicante11 25 August 2013 08: 21 New
                0
                But what about the law on the nationalization of the Central Bank? Which hacked depots?
                1. a52333
                  a52333 25 August 2013 08: 56 New
                  +1
                  Well, not formally hacked. He is pending. The Fed really does not want to lose its branch, here is the lobby in the Duma and push it "for later."
                  In general, as soon as he (the Central Bank) is free, and moves from the category of "accountable" to the category of "Managed", the situation will improve. The economy (especially small and medium-sized businesses) is strangled. In addition, this is an additional hole for pumping money from the Russian Federation, and not only from the Russian Federation. Currency board works for both Japan and China.
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 25 August 2013 16: 54 New
                    0
                    Quote: a52333
                    Well, not formally hacked.
                    Of course they didn’t hack, because such a law did not exist in nature.
                2. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 25 August 2013 16: 51 New
                  0
                  Quote: alicante11
                  But what about the law on the nationalization of the Central Bank? Which hacked depots?

                  Have you seen this bill, or are you just propagating the nonsense of Chubais's pimple Fedorov? laughing
                  1. nbw
                    nbw 25 August 2013 23: 27 New
                    0
                    http://tessey.livejournal.com/486952.html

                    Here they write about you, read.
                    1. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 26 August 2013 00: 37 New
                      0
                      Quote: nbw
                      Here they write about you, read.
                      And what does this mean?
            2. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 24 August 2013 13: 18 New
              +6
              Quote: a52333
              Zyuganov, recall, was in the Duma for 12 years in the vast majority.

              For this he was kept because on a leash. And he will not allow the arrival of a full-fledged communist at the top of the Communist Party!
              1. ivshubarin
                ivshubarin 24 August 2013 13: 45 New
                12
                The last real communist was Stalin I.V.
          2. avt
            avt 24 August 2013 10: 15 New
            +9
            Quote: vladsolo56
            Candidacy? please, I'm sure that Zyuganov could get no less than Putin.

            And he got more than Putin in the elections, and much more, remember the 96th year, but only when you had to risk your own trust in the skin - merged a little and justified his liquidation under his loose stool, saying that if war breaks out, the war of the North will begin with South, "literally, his" thought, "your little horse your Zyuganov and the environment is going to catch up.
            Quote: vladsolo56
            And if, instead, they put an honest young communist, and there are many of them, then there is definitely a guarantee of victory.

            Where? In Zurich or in Cyprus?
          3. ivshubarin
            ivshubarin 24 August 2013 12: 41 New
            +8
            Zyuganov is afraid to become president, it is easier to criticize, and when he was given power, he did not know what to do with it.
          4. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 25 August 2013 00: 54 New
            0

            vladsolo56 RU  Yesterday, 09:13 ↑


            Candidacy? please, I'm sure that Zyuganov could get no less than Putin. And if, instead, they put an honest young communist, and there are many of them, then there is definitely a guarantee of victory.

            we have a village authority just from the Communists (when I found out I was surprised, everyone said that their EP was just one harm from it) so they managed to wave a piece of paper to the road workers last year, as a result of which they closed the bridge for repair and the detour to hayfields was 35 km one side
          5. alicante11
            alicante11 25 August 2013 08: 20 New
            0
            Candidacy? please, I'm sure that Zyuganov could get no less than Putin.


            In 96, he already got more, and we got Fuck.

            And if, instead, they put an honest young communist, and there are many of them, then there is definitely a guarantee of victory.


            In the Communist Party, the Communists have long ceased to smell. A normal communist will not go under Uncle P. So, a typical petty-bourgeois party.
        2. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 24 August 2013 13: 17 New
          +4
          Quote: a52333
          The president is the guarantor of the constitution. Within the framework of this constitution, in the presence of THIS LIBERASTIC DUMA

          What is the ... GUARANTEE? He turned our constitution, as he wanted!

          "The document published on the site of the" Russian newspaper "states that from January 7 to March 21, 2014, vehicles will not be allowed to enter or move in Sochi.

          An exception will be made for rail vehicles registered in Sochi cars, emergency vehicles, as well as for vehicles with special accreditations.

          In addition, Sochi will be temporarily banned from holding various rallies, meetings and processions that are not related to the Olympics. "

          What about freedom of assembly?
          Freedom of speech?
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSlDuxIbFGo
          1. a52333
            a52333 24 August 2013 13: 48 New
            +5
            Point by point:
            entry and movement of vehicles in Sochi will be prohibited.
            a) do you want to move Moscow traffic jams there? At the time of the Olympics?
            c) are you upset that the LGBT rally will not take place?
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 24 August 2013 16: 04 New
              +3
              Quote: a52333
              c) are you upset that the LGBT rally will not take place?

              Firstly, I am upset that the people of Russia are simply forbidden to express their will. They get the Constitution itself! And Heriith is her Guarantor!
              Secondly, I don’t know what LGBT people are - do you have any idea what the Kremlin’s bogeyman of liberalism is about?
              Quote: a52333
              Do you want to move Moscow traffic jams there?

              - yeah, why should we hide them? And officials with flashing lights on the counter!
              Let everyone observe how the authorities of the Russian Federation. on the people, why break the comedy?
          2. alicante11
            alicante11 25 August 2013 08: 24 New
            +1
            Yeah, and when something is blown up in the stands or just on the street, who will yell that the GDP has not been inspected? Here are reinsured.
        3. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 24 August 2013 14: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: a52333
          Within the framework of this constitution, in the presence of THIS LIBERASTIC DUMA, the government is a separate conversation. The president’s hands are more or less untied only in pursuing foreign policy.

          Let me ask you what exactly you are not comfortable with with the current Constitution, what do you think it binds the guarantor in domestic politics?
          1. a52333
            a52333 24 August 2013 15: 17 New
            +3
            national law.rf - there in detail. We are deprived of legislatively printing money. Oh, the State Department wrote this constitution, and the EBN drank vodka at that time.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 24 August 2013 15: 39 New
              0
              Quote: a52333
              We are deprived of legislatively printing money.
              Central Bank of the Russian Federation what do you think is doing

              Oh, the State Department wrote this constitution
              Do you have documentary evidence of this?

              And then - I asked about what exactly you don’t like, and how the current Constitution binds the guarantor exactly in your opinion.
              1. a52333
                a52333 24 August 2013 15: 50 New
                +6
                In my opinion, the Central Bank refinancing rate for the period of crisis should be practically = 0.
                We have = 8,5%
                So we have 8,5 refinancing rate + bank interest total of 20% per annum. What kind of development of entrepreneurship and small business are we talking about at such a loan rate?
                In England and Japan, the refinancing rate (for comparison for this period) was NEGATIVE = -0,25% !!!!!!!!!!!
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 24 August 2013 16: 11 New
                  -1
                  Quote: a52333
                  In my opinion, the Central Bank refinancing rate for the period of crisis should be practically = 0.
                  You take the topic aside.

                  As for the refinancing rate - in your opinion, it can be lower than the percentage of inflation? Are you ready to pay for the development of a business belonging to an unknown person from your own pocket?
                  In any case, the state is not ready - it is ready to pay the costs and losses of only large financial capital. laughing
                  1. a52333
                    a52333 24 August 2013 16: 44 New
                    +1
                    The appointment of the refinancing rate is the prerogative of the Central Bank.

                    Article 40 of Federal Law No. 86-ФЗ “On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)” of July 10 2002 stipulates that refinancing means lending to credit institutions by the Bank of Russia.

                    1 Article: Status, Activities, Functions and Powers
                    Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)
                    determined by the Constitution of the Russian Federation, this
                    Federal law and other federal laws. Xnumx
                    Constitutional powers
                    Russian Federation and this Federal Law, Bank
                    Russia implements independently other federal authorities
                    public authorities, public authorities
                    subjects of the Russian Federation and the bodies of the local
                    self
                  2. a52333
                    a52333 24 August 2013 16: 58 New
                    +3
                    In any case, the state is not ready - it is ready to pay the costs and losses of only large financial capital.
                    Big financial capital? You are talking about what, sorry, the state is talking. I'm talking about the Russian Federation. and with us
                    large financial capital
                    not to protect him. You must be confused with industrial oligarchs. Then tell me, when did their costs come in?
                    1. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 24 August 2013 17: 55 New
                      +1
                      Quote: a52333
                      Assignment of the refinancing rate CB prerogative
                      Who is arguing?

                      Refinancing means lending by credit institutions to the Bank of Russia.
                      Read carefully: "Status, objectives, functions of authority
                      Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)
                      determined by the Constitution of the Russian Federation, this
                      Federal law and other federal laws.
                      Functions and powers provided for by the Constitution
                      Of the Russian Federation and this Federal Law, the Bank of Russia shall independently from other federal bodies government authorities, constituent entities of the Russian Federation and local authorities
                      self.
                      The objectives of the Bank of Russia are: protection and stability of the ruble
                      development and strengthening of the banking system
                      ensuring efficient and uninterrupted functioning of the payment system

                      Caring for business (that is, private traders) is not included in this list.

                      Quote: a52333
                      and we don’t have big financial capital to protect it
                      We do not have banks that in 08, instead of lending, were engaged in currency speculation on the allocated money?
                      1. a52333
                        a52333 24 August 2013 18: 23 New
                        +1

                        3 article) ensuring stability and development of the national payment system
                        Article 4- 3) is the lender of last resort for credit
                        organizations, organizes a system for their refinancing;

                        The national payment system in times of crisis (and now) needs liquidity. And the Central Bank takes a destructive position for the period of crisis.
                        Article 4, paragraph 7 provides effective management of the gold and currency reserves of the Bank of Russia;
                        Remember the stabilization fund.
                      2. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 24 August 2013 19: 49 New
                        +1
                        Quote: a52333
                        The national payment system in times of crisis (and now) needs liquidity.

                        National Payment System Act
                      3. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 24 August 2013 19: 51 New
                        +1
                        Quote: a52333
                        Remember the stabilization fund.

                        On making amendments to the Budget Code of the Russian Federation regarding the creation of the Stabilization Fund of the Russian Federation
      2. zvereok
        zvereok 24 August 2013 20: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: a52333
        The president is the guarantor of the constitution. Within the framework of this constitution, in the presence of THIS LIBERASTIC DUMA, the government is a separate conversation. The president’s hands are more or less untied only in pursuing foreign policy. Hence the difference.


        Now, what kind of non-permanent people? Previously, it was whining that they had written the Constitution under Yeltsin and he was the king and god, now Putin can’t do anything about this constitution ... For example, I am categorically against the current composition of power (in my opinion, the not legitimate -EP) changing the Constitution.
    2. zvereok
      zvereok 24 August 2013 20: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: Egoza
      If authoritarianism existed, Serdyukov would have been imprisoned long ago, and all the rich would be shocked who use the mineral resources of Russia to enrich Russia, which belong to the people, but only they themselves are enriched.

      Well, it depends on who would be a dictator. For example, under Berezovsky, the rallies must have been shot, and Serdyukov would have been the prime minister, and the West would have been our best friend.
  4. arkady149
    arkady149 24 August 2013 08: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Let them hold fair elections and be 100% sure that power will pass to other people.

    I beg to differ. The momentary sympathy for the new candidate and the real trust of the overwhelming majority of citizens are not the same thing.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 August 2013 08: 45 New
      -3
      What trust and to whom? what are you talking about?
      1. alexng
        alexng 25 August 2013 14: 08 New
        0
        The West is climbing over to instill in Russians a sense of contempt for their own country, eternal discontent, bitterness, a spirit of criticism and ridicule of any actions of the authorities. The West understands perfectly well that a country with an ever-dissatisfied population is a weak country, which is why all sorts of bulkers, Pusyriots, "matzoh ears", "rains", "hryuniki", "cheap critics", "appraisers and experts take a look" "tapes. lie", etc. (all sorts, in conscience are cheap).
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 26 August 2013 03: 59 New
          +3
          Quote: alexneg
          The West understands perfectly well that a country with an ever-dissatisfied population is a weak country, which is why all sorts of bulkers, pusriots, "matzoh ears", "rains", "hryuniki", "cheap critics", "appraisers and experts take a look" "tapes. lie", etc. (all sorts, in conscience are cheap).

          This "foam" that climbs out - "Let the steering!" - either really or doesn’t realize what it is like to be a leader of the highest rank, or wants to “grab” at the first opportunity, quietly, looking at night, and in the morning declare “We wanted the best, but it turned out, PAnimAsh , as always...".
      2. nbw
        nbw 25 August 2013 23: 30 New
        0
        http://tessey.livejournal.com/486952.html

        - here they write about you, read. Be proud!
  5. Rosomaha67
    Rosomaha67 24 August 2013 12: 55 New
    +4
    .... I’m ready to believe you, if you name such people and give links to their program to bring the country out of today's situation, otherwise it’s really criticism again but no specifics, “we have such people, they will steer correctly”, well, let's show me the "white and fluffy", not messed up by the 90s and ties with the "powers of the world" of this 2000s, for which I don’t know anyone like that ... all whom you don’t stick, in one case or another rowed .......
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 24 August 2013 13: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: Rosomaha67
      not messed up with the 90s and ties with the "powers of the world" of this 2000s, something I don’t know of such ......

      This is because all the information reaches you through the media. Partly government, partly oligarchic or foreign capital. Neither one nor the other will tell you about honest people.
      Quote: Rosomaha67
      provide links to their program to bring the country out of its current situation

      http://igpr.ru/aim - вот читайте наздоровье!
      1. Rosomaha67
        Rosomaha67 24 August 2013 14: 14 New
        +3
        ..... I don’t argue the information reaches me through the media, I don’t live in Moscow, because I only have true information in my region, but I don’t understand how your media (which you pointed out to me) is different from the government and oligarchic ones, I can create the same and carry there all nonsense. Secondly, if you want, we will decide everything in referenda, then we’ll slide down to the times of Athenian democracy, we will get the power of “coolness”, moreover, in this way you can flexibly control only small Athens and Novgorod, but not a huge country. Again, if we take Stolypin’s reforms and bring them up for discussion in Russia at that time, I’m sure that they would be cut off by referendum, from here the conclusion with your form of government will extinguish the effect of a talented reformer in advance, since the majority of society is conservative and does not seek to change ......
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 24 August 2013 16: 08 New
          +2
          Quote: Rosomaha67
          Secondly, if you want, we will decide everything in referenda,

          The highest will of the people - is a referendum - study the constitution!
          Quote: Rosomaha67
          in this way, you can flexibly control only small Athens and Novgorod,

          - with the modern development of computer technology - we have gone far from Novgorod!
  6. builder
    builder 24 August 2013 18: 06 New
    +1
    Which others? Name a couple of names.
    1. builder
      builder 24 August 2013 18: 15 New
      +1
      Thank you for the minus. Names?
  7. Nick
    Nick 24 August 2013 23: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: vladsolo56
    if more decent people come to power, they will all have to answer before the law for their anti-people’s projects and deeds.

    “Decent people” in the 91st Union collapsed, and after coming to power, they ruined the whole economy and using them themselves created a mess, they shoved all their more or less valuable assets into their own, creating an oligarchy, by robbing the people, they dragged anti-popular constitution, and now Putin alone is to blame for everything ..?
  8. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 25 August 2013 00: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: vladsolo56
    A strange statement, or rather absolutely false. Have fair elections

    but in general it’s interesting what “fair elections” mean !!! !!!
    the funny thing is that according to the statements of the same “Levada” (which it’s impossible to blame for the love of power and to which the opposition always refers except for this), the EP won less than they expected from the polls
    Quote: vladsolo56
    because if more decent people come to power
    do you yourself believe in that ?! I mean decent people
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  10. adm656
    adm656 25 August 2013 17: 48 New
    +2
    And who are they, these decent people? The whole essence of capitalism is that a decent person can’t get on top .. this can only be done by a person completely devoid of conscience, of any moral principles .. only on their heads, only through betrayal .. if allowed to the authorities of the same Navalny, which exists on Western money, what will it be better? He will also steal, become the same crook..also he will be presented with an account .. he will have to work off Western investments in himself (however, what is he doing now ) .. you, as a simple citizen (not a businessman, not an official, not a financier), can not be convinced by anything that if you exist on Western grants, then when you come to power you will be happy for my happiness .. and lastly a joke in the subject if you in Russia, I haven’t achieved anything by the age of forty, so you’re just an honest and decent person ..
  • 12061973
    12061973 24 August 2013 07: 46 New
    +2
    The authorities are criticized, but no one wants to be in her place ”


    in Russia everyone wants to lead, even if no matter who they are, just to not work and have more money.
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 24 August 2013 13: 49 New
      +4
      Everyone wants to lead, and no one to be responsible
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 24 August 2013 14: 53 New
        +4
        Quote: ivshubarin
        Everyone wants to lead, and no one to be responsible
        1. a52333
          a52333 24 August 2013 15: 20 New
          +4
          If GDP hadn’t signed this, now Kasyanov would have “presided” us in the knee-elbow position. (As an option)
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 24 August 2013 15: 40 New
            0
            Quote: a52333
            If GDP hadn’t signed this, now Kasyanov would have “presided” us in the knee-elbow position. (As an option)

            what would it be?
            1. a52333
              a52333 24 August 2013 17: 16 New
              +2
              This was the main requirement for a presidential candidate. EBN knew that he could be imprisoned for his “reign”, and he selected subsequent candidates from the point of view of “fidelity of the word”. When he asked Putin how he relates to Sobchak, the GDP responded that he would not say anything bad about him. EBNu liked this. The GDP, accordingly, kept its word, and did not let either EBN or its family touch.
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 24 August 2013 18: 07 New
                +1
                Quote: a52333
                This was the main requirement for a presidential candidate. EBN knew that he could be imprisoned for his “reign”, and he selected subsequent candidates from the point of view of “fidelity of the word”.

                Wonderful laughing

                You have just stated that there is no difference between EBN and Vova, since the latter is actually a protege of EBN, which is also confirmed by the signature of the current guarantor under 12 Federal Laws - which in turn violates the 19th and 80th articles of the Constitution.

                Bravo.
                1. Nick
                  Nick 25 August 2013 11: 55 New
                  0
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  there is no difference between EBN and Vova, since the latter is actually a protege of EBN,

                  Do you think that they’re just becoming president? The president of any country is a consensus figure of elites. They would decide instead of Putin to expose Kasyanov, people about GDP could not hear anything at all. And the kings generally inherited the position, but ruled in different ways ...
  • Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 24 August 2013 08: 09 New
    +8
    Power is a trough, they stick a snout and guzzle, you start to pull-squeal and abut.
  • individual
    individual 24 August 2013 08: 12 New
    +7
    Bits and others like him are waiting for a rematch of the 90s without realizing that the time of the Nemtsov-Chubais has passed. Russia is gaining its sovereignty and the time will come to ask Western liberals for the historic failure of the economy of their rule.
    Now the "former" are betting on the new savior of Russia, the new Yeltsin-Navalny, who will easily step over morality and morality, will easily shed Russian blood to realize his ambitions.
    His ambitions are known power-money-power, and the people, as always, are a means to an end.
    1. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 24 August 2013 09: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: individ
      Bits and others like him are waiting for a rematch of the 90s without realizing that the time of the Nemtsov-Chubais has passed

      Yes, they do not wait for revenge ... they have already begun the battle - revenge, putting forward a new "Fuhrer" prepared by AMERS - Navalny! A new crusade against the sovereignty of RUSSIA has been launched on the new "grants" received from the "humanitarian organizations" of the West!
      1. a52333
        a52333 24 August 2013 09: 39 New
        +4
        Yes, they do not wait for revenge ... they have already begun the battle - revenge,
        100% good did not stop for a SEC. Who will tell me which party to vote for? National Liberation Movement, yes I like it. Are there any other options?
        1. nbw
          nbw 25 August 2013 23: 41 New
          +1
          Are there any other options?


          Defense smile
    2. a52333
      a52333 24 August 2013 13: 52 New
      +2
      I agree. And now let's imagine how many pro-Western are still sitting there, waiting for the next election on a suitcase of State Department dollars !!!!!!! What do you think Navalny is the only one?
  • bubla5
    bubla5 24 August 2013 08: 14 New
    +2
    Yes, the complete destruction of liberals and toleraids will save Russia, they are all agents of the West, they studied there, are financed from there, etc.
  • Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 24 August 2013 08: 26 New
    12
    I never cease to be surprised at such articles. They cause homeric laughter in me.
    I understand that when someone from the close circle acts as a lawyer, so as not to lose a place.
    Power spoils people, and criticism is a good cure for pride.
    About the fact that no one wants to take the highest place - this is cunning.
    Remember the pre-election events and the fate of the candidates. Even those who passed the selection looked somehow constrained, scared and unusually quiet.
    Farther...
    Yeltsin, probably turned over again in his grave. They found a scapegoat both to the place and not to the place, without end it is blamed for everything.
    It's time to close this topic. It's a shame, by golly.
    Yes, under Yeltsin there was a noisy beginning of the division of the national wealth of Russia, but after his departure everything only intensified, but was quietly and soberly brought to its logical end. Divided - calmed down.
    This explains the current stage of "stability".
    Do you think otherwise? Me not.
    Do you want justice and think that a thief should be in prison?
    And where did the key figures of those events go? Particularly dangerous criminal Chubais, for example ??
    Maybe he sits in a striped robe on the plank beds and thieves sings songs of longing? No ... He is in chocolate and free.
    And who still so carefully preserves it?
    Well, as is customary in our country, we will learn the whole truth about the role of client Yu.Polyakov and the current government when they leave ...
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 24 August 2013 14: 58 New
      +4
      Quote: Samsebenum
      And where did the key figures of those events go? Particularly dangerous criminal Chubais, for example?
  • Garrin
    Garrin 24 August 2013 09: 06 New
    +3
    Prior to this interview, there was a better opinion of Polyakov.
  • baltika-18
    baltika-18 24 August 2013 09: 14 New
    +2
    Article minus. Frankly, I had a better opinion about Polyakov, I was disappointed. Let the writer not be offended, but he licks, drooling with pleasure and anticipation of good luck: "Or maybe someone will get over from the master's table?"
    1. Normal
      Normal 24 August 2013 12: 03 New
      +5
      Quote: Samsebenum
      I never cease to be surprised at such articles. They cause homeric laughter in me.

      Quote: Garrin
      Prior to this interview, there was a better opinion of Polyakov.

      Quote: baltika-18
      Article minus. Frankly, I was of a better opinion about Polyakov, disappointed.

      I join your opinion.
      The author of "state of emergency of a regional scale" and "Apofigey" would like to answer; Your interview is a complete apofigey. Other people cannot be considered idiots. Polyakov declares:
      And what, this social gap arose under Putin? These are all the consequences of Yeltsin’s policy! ......

      Putin got the ungrateful role to disassemble the chaos in the country ......

      Is it really that the social gap under Putin, which has been in power for 13 years, has begun to narrow? Or maybe Putin did not participate in the organization of that chaos in the country as Deputy Sobchak?

      This is especially "liked":
      S.G. AiF: Let's say you're right. But is it that the West is to blame for a number of polls that trust in the supreme power is steadily declining?
      Yu.P .: I fully admit that trust is falling. Well, do you know, for example, that confidence in Barack Obama during his presidency fell two or three times ?! And the credibility of French President Francois Hollande fell almost five times!

      S.G. AiF: So this is a normal political process?

      Yu.P .: Exactly! This is the natural course of political life! And there, in the West, they understand and accept this. Yes, a man came to power, did something, didn’t succeed or didn’t have time ... And our intelligentsia is not surprised or indignant by the fact that the same Americans or French, for example, do not go out into the streets in droves! What are double standards in judgment?

      With ease not ordinary (talent, you will not say anything) Polyakov himself applies a double standard.
      Fell see whether trust in Obama and Holland at times. Yes, we do not care about them. Holland and Obama will leave, and no one has any doubt about it. Therefore, in the west they don’t take to the streets (although the Poles are lying here; they go out and still go out; regularly and constantly)
      But we also have no doubt that no matter how much public confidence in Putin falls, he will not leave.

      Having “defeated” opponents of GDP, Polyakov immediately changes his position when it comes to his near and vital:
      Yu.P .: It's hard to argue with that. The authorities do sometimes give unpardonable reasons for the opposition. ........
      We, writers, have been fighting a bandit group for many years that has seized the writer's property. My house was attacked, my wife was beaten - the investigation did not end there. They burned the writer Oleg Mikhailov together with his house because he did not want to give up ... We turn to the authorities for help, and they say: “You, writers, wanted freedom, so sort it out yourself!” But wait a minute! Our bankers also wanted freedom of enterprise. However, when they find themselves in a difficult financial situation, the state rushes to their aid with all its gold reserves. Why are writers worse?

      Clear day, his shirt closer to the body.
      1. bask
        bask 24 August 2013 12: 16 New
        +8
        Good afternoon, Vladimir, Valery (Samsebenaume). Have not been stopped long ago.
        Quote: Normal
        Clear the day

        This is the key phrase. Everyone understands everything.
        But some people deliberately distort real life, because they live at the expense of the people.
        And others have nothing to lose (except for their own chains).
        And most importantly: now in the Western media there is a real PR campaign in praise of our guarantor. This is a very bad symptom.
        The same praise was humpbacked, after which he destroyed the USSR.
        Western media is the mouthpiece of the Zionists. Very, very, alarming.
        And yet there is a reprisal against the Russian patriots (Kvachkov, Khabarov, etc.), they are obviously being squandered for political reasons.
        But Taburetkin, Chubsy and other thieves live freely on stolen billions from the people. They are not going to plant them along the way (not in this mode).
        1. a52333
          a52333 24 August 2013 13: 56 New
          +1
          in the Western media there is a real PR campaign in praise of our guarantor.
          Indeed? And straight praise? And are there any references?
          Come on, if they say that Putin paid Obama on all counts, they say that Obama is weak, not praising Putin.
          1. bask
            bask 24 August 2013 14: 13 New
            0
            Quote: a52333
            And are there any references?

            http://topwar.ru/32379-vladimir-putin-gotov-na-vse-radi-svoey-velikoy-rossii-geo

            polis-franciya.html
            ("Geopolis", France)
            Posted by Marie Dousse
            1. a52333
              a52333 24 August 2013 15: 26 New
              +4
              Something I did not notice that she praised him.
              After the Kremlin passed laws against homosexuality, Putin’s policies were again criticized both in Russia and in the international arena. Vladimir Putin has ruled the country for 15 years with an iron hand и does not shy from violations of rights man, dreaming of returning to Russia its former greatness.
        2. baltika-18
          baltika-18 24 August 2013 15: 20 New
          +4
          Quote: bask
          Western media is a Zionist shout

          Quote: bask
          : Now in the Western media there is a real PR campaign in praise of our guarantor. This is a very bad symptom.

          Very. So in the shadow there were events that no one paid attention to and which are silent, camouflaged by various information throws.
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 09: 24 New
    +5
    The authorities are criticized because there is something to criticize for, instead of building these Olympic facilities, they could spend this money on building or repairing a plant, raising pensions or salaries, building or repairing roads.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 24 August 2013 10: 03 New
    +2
    I wanted to say what actually change? What other people will come?
    I know these people by heart !!
    Zhirinovsky, Chubais ............. changed the sign and again into the leaders. They privatized this power!
    And the criticism addressed to them is well deserved
  • Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 24 August 2013 10: 05 New
    +5
    GREAT RUSSIA

    One cannot disagree with this. I put bold "+"
    A real "feast during the plague."
  • creak
    creak 24 August 2013 10: 14 New
    +7
    According to Polyakov, everything is generally quite good, only the situation with writers 'dachas spoils the good picture, and the degradation of the Vlogodskaya oblast is a trifle ... Therefore, the author devoted almost a whole paragraph to the struggle for writers' property, and about the Vologda Oblast - in passing, in one line. .. They say that they didn’t live well, there’s nothing to start ... In general, everything is by saying: "Everyone has problems - who have thin cabbage soup and who have small pearls."
    Yes, the writer has changed a lot and not for the better ...
  • runway
    runway 24 August 2013 10: 17 New
    +7
    Poles, you're wrong!
    This power gangster methods removes its competitors. Therefore, the 90s do not end and will not end until gangster power is thrown off. Your allegations that “no one wants to get into the shoes of the authorities” are a spit in Russia. The disbelief that out of 140 million people the peoples of Russia are able to choose a worthy person is the worst thing that can happen to a writer who turns into a shabby official.
    1. Xroft
      Xroft 24 August 2013 10: 32 New
      +2
      What kind of competitors are you talking about? Since 1993, not a single serious person has been in the political arena except Putin. Zhirik? Zyuganov? Prokhorov? or what is Navalny? : D: D: D
      1. a52333
        a52333 24 August 2013 12: 08 New
        0
        I agree. We are fighting in the minority. Cover your back, I went:
        1) All of you, dear, sitting at the keys, are strong at criticizing GDP for beer, I would like to recall several points: GDP came to power in 2000, Total 2013-2000 = 13-3 = 9 years.
        During this time, from a humanitarian catastrophe we came to the economy No. 5, from a rag state to a state that has gained weight in international politics and is beginning to gain imperial ambitions. From salary in 15 $ to current figures. 9 years !!!! And this is not in "greenhouse conditions", but in the opposition of the Chubais and Nemtsovs, Lord, how alive he is today !!! And here the main thing is that grant-eaters, realizing that we have 11 years of the same course, raise hysteria with saliva, and they support the general tone (under pressure from the media and general hysteria, quite adequate and politically illiterate people!). Get away from him. Let it work. that everyone is cocked? Deprivatization? Yeah, it's about time. The war for her is excellent. Who will then howl most of all?
        1. Garrin
          Garrin 24 August 2013 13: 52 New
          +4
          Quote: a52333
          During this time, from a humanitarian catastrophe, we came to economy No. 5,

          Who does this number 5 work for? A bunch of oligarchs and a thieves' bureaucratic army.
          Quote: a52333
          from a rag state to a state that has gained weight in international politics and is beginning to gain imperial ambitions.

          How can these ambitions be confirmed? Only a nuclear baton, which was created back in the days of the USSR (thank God, not about poop).
          Quote: a52333
          From a salary of $ 15 to current figures. 9 years!!!!

          This is very cool only if prices, tariffs and taxes would still remain Soviet.
          Quote: a52333
          And this is not in "greenhouse conditions", but in the opposition of the Chubais and Nemtsovs, Lord, how alive he is today !!!

          Who prevents the guarantor from removing the above gentlemen from the political arena? Yes, only that this is one team.
          Quote: a52333
          And here is the main thing, grant-eaters, realizing that we have another 11 years of the same course, raise hysteria with saliva, and maintain the general tone (under the pressure of the media and general hysteria, quite adequate and politically illiterate people!).

          If there is a desire and will, these grant-eaters can be shut up during the day.

          Quote: a52333
          Get away from him. Let it work. that everyone is cocked? Deprivatization? Yeah, it's about time. The war for her is excellent. Who will then howl most of all?

          What war? The army, VV and, in general, all honest people will only support.
          1. Xroft
            Xroft 24 August 2013 14: 18 New
            0
            You want to say that the standard of living is the same as in the 90s? Well, if you do not fucking and whining in order for the state to give you money, yes ...... we now have already * gobbled up * people have VERY MUCH surpluses (iPhones, foreign cars, clothes of ponto brands, grub from restaurants to fast wood in the end, etc.) In principle, these things are not needed at all (and the lion's share of the family budget goes there) In general, I think the standard of living in Russia is growing in a progressive manner, which can not be said about the United States and Europe. We have a person who wants and can work, will always be satisfying to live and not run around with bulging eyes / sit on unemployment benefits. You can’t say about the inveterate parasites / drunks who just want to whine that everything in the district is corrupt and that Old Man Lenin / Stalin would take everything away and share it.
    2. a52333
      a52333 24 August 2013 13: 20 New
      -1
      The disbelief that among the 140 million people the peoples of Russia are able to choose a worthy person is the worst thing that can happen to a writer
      Well, let's think about how the 140 000 000 Russians will vote.
      including:
      40 000 000 which besides HOUSE-2 do not watch anything.
      50 000 000 do not trust anyone "Against all"
      30 000 000 "It was better under the communists, FOR Zyuganov !!!!"
      3 000 000 For Zhirinovsky.
      7 000 000 For Prokhorov (there will be a separate grant through Gibraltar) the remaining 10 million. - ??????????? Of course I exaggerate, but for whom? Putin is bad. Suggest your option.
      1. Xroft
        Xroft 24 August 2013 14: 29 New
        +2
        The key is to work, work, work and not interfere with those who work. And to wait for a crystal clear politician to come (already ridiculous) and share everything with the people is just the level of general illiteracy and naive hopes that sitting on the train ... you can get * money * from the sky. Don't like a particular official? Fulfill your civic duty ahead and hollow in all instances to get it removed. People are used to demanding (from whom ??) but they themselves do not want to be responsible for anyone (for society and for their demands in the first place). The politician will drag himself to the top of the political Olympus and will he give you money ?. Any small leader who has his own staff understands what leadership is and how hard it is given. Fulfill the plan, realize the tasks ... and all this is still on the scale of a huge country with very different people.
        ps ask yourself have you often in your life defended your rights in practice? or just ready on the forum whining about not justice.
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 10: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: APASUS
    I wanted to say what actually change? What other people will come?
    I know these people by heart !!
    Zhirinovsky, Chubais ............. changed the sign and again into the leaders. They privatized this power!
    And the criticism addressed to them is well deserved

    I completely agree with this power than these liberals, at least they are doing something, and thank God.
  • EGORKA
    EGORKA 24 August 2013 10: 28 New
    +8
    As for the elections, for example, the last presidential elections, even though the opposition lifted the ball in the neck, it’s clear that they really didn’t have the strength and candidate that would have bypassed Putin, and even now, though their number may have grown, it remains to arrange “swamp events.” Even if Putin is not perfect, Putin still tries to do something, he is personally interested in this, the stronger and more comfortable Russia will be, the brighter it will be. the future, otherwise, after he becomes president, the West and our liberals fed by him will simply tear him to pieces, whom they certainly don’t trust with their American patrons, who don’t need a strong Russia. We’ve already proved the 90’s reforms and now how they can interfere with getting up to their feet. I hope the dogs will bark, and the caravan will go and people with speaking names like "Navalny" will not pile up a bunch of shit in the country that will have to be raked for decades.
  • Xroft
    Xroft 24 August 2013 10: 35 New
    +2
    They already wrote and said simply to remove all liberalists from power ... the Chubais, Dvorkovichs, Siluanovs, etc. And at once economic growth and prosperity will go ... it’s like a cancerous tumor. It will be able to completely recover the body itself ... the question is that other people will always be in their place ... for this we need a tough reactionary policy.
  • grafrozow
    grafrozow 24 August 2013 10: 40 New
    -2
    S.G. AiF: Let's say you're right. But is it that the West is to blame for a number of polls that trust in the supreme power is steadily declining?
    Yu.P .: I fully admit that trust is falling. Well, do you know, for example, that confidence in Barack Obama during his presidency fell two or three times ?! And the credibility of French President Francois Hollande fell almost five times!
    And who will say how many times the confidence in GDP has fallen, are there such numbers?
    S.G. AiF: But doesn’t it seem to you that the government still sometimes goes beyond the permissible limits? When law enforcement officers openly make it clear that anyone can be imprisoned ...

    Yu.P .: It's hard to argue with that.
    Here, yes, you can’t argue, the "little" power is in our "guarantor", the author.
  • Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 24 August 2013 11: 02 New
    +5
    “The authorities are criticized, but no one wants to be in her place”

    Not so much as he does not want, as much as he cannot, and because of his education, his abilities, capabilities. It’s cheaper to sit in a chair and engage in criticism than to do something specific. And it’s not necessary to go into power. Our critics are ready to bark everything, everyone and everything just to assume that they are smart.
  • EGORKA
    EGORKA 24 August 2013 11: 06 New
    0
    [quote = grafrozow]

    YP: It’s hard to argue with that. [/ Quote] Here, yes, you can’t argue, our "guarantor" has "little" power, the author does. [/ Quote]
    And really, Putin has little power, because his power is not only him, but also an environment that is far from homogeneous and even really hostile and he can’t do anything about it, because they are acting according to democratic standards, however differently it seemed to many, plus you have to act with an eye on the West to prevent the isolation of the country, there are many constraints, although in some places of course he can afford to include stronger momentum, but he cannot always act like that and does not want to It seems to me. Although, in my opinion, those who put sticks in the wheels of our country will not be twisted out, but will come forward with slow steps, the more our country will rise, the more power the guarantor will have, but not with a totalitarian bias, but based on power on the trust of the people, what are our liberal-fed liberalists who are doing everything to hinder the development of the country, because they have no other methods besides wrecking against Putin, and if there are, such political methods are not against then, alas, the West does not pay for such methods.
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 24 August 2013 11: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: EGORKA
      And really little, little power in Putin, because his power is not only him, but also an environment that is far from homogeneous and even actually hostile and he can not do anything about it, because they act according to democratic standards
      Can you talk about the environment in more detail, who imposed "Petersburg" friends on him? Washington, or did he choose them?
      ! This takes decades. Putin got the ungrateful role to disassemble the chaos in the country. Nobody wants to take the position of power. As history shows, in order to raise a country out of ruin, many years of consolidation are required.
      What kind of hints, give our guarantor three more terms? Who is stopping him from planting Serdyukov and Co. now, feeding the Caucasus, stopping cuts in budget money? Maybe he can call specialists, not “guys from his yard,” tell me what?
    2. a52333
      a52333 24 August 2013 12: 32 New
      +3
      Exactly! good Unfortunately, not everyone understands this, for some reason they think that they have elected the president, and then, by the pike command, op-pa and heaven on earth, right now. Moreover, everyone loves to praise Stalin, I don’t argue, he is good for the country, but you just have to touch on PERSONAL welfare a little, or work there an hour more - so squeal! Yes, the president is like that, and here’s one more time, yes, it would be better if Yushchenko, yes, Zyuganov would be, and communism is right tomorrow.
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 11: 20 New
    +4
    I don’t know who these liberals should nominate, but Putin will leave in 2018, and then the real political struggle will begin, then the liberals will probably try to nominate their candidate, I hope Putin will find a worthy replacement, otherwise things are bad
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 24 August 2013 11: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      Putin will find a worthy replacement, otherwise things are bad
      DAM again? Or maybe let Luzhkov steer?
      1. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 24 August 2013 12: 48 New
        +3
        I think Shoigu
        1. ivshubarin
          ivshubarin 24 August 2013 12: 50 New
          0
          May Russia Save
    2. Normal
      Normal 24 August 2013 12: 14 New
      +3
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      however, Putin will leave in 2018

      Why such confidence?
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      I hope Putin will find a worthy replacement

      Putin already had a “worthy” replacement. It was called Medvedev Dmitry Anatolyevich. laughing
      So the best replacement for Putin .... is Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin .... and he won’t go anywhere .... neither in 2018, nor in 2024. fellow
      1. GREAT RUSSIA
        GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 12: 41 New
        -2
        I will be very happy about it, then again these liberal media deceived
      2. lilit.193
        lilit.193 24 August 2013 23: 25 New
        0
        Quote: Normal
        So the best replacement for Putin .... is Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin .... and he won’t go anywhere .... neither in 2018, nor in 2024. fellow

        Aha fellow And he will steer to the grave, and then immediately move to the mausoleum. wink
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        2. lilit.193
          lilit.193 26 August 2013 23: 47 New
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          Once my comment with the wishes of eternal life to the president and the prime minister was demolished. Instead of him, I just throw this picture. Type corrected. laughing
          Maybe someone will like it. wink
          1. Chicot 1
            Chicot 1 27 August 2013 00: 35 New
            +1
            Quote: lilit.193
            Since my comment with the wishes of eternal life, the president and the prime minister were demolished

            Looks not too good and you wished for this very eternal life ... lol
            Quote: lilit.193
            Maybe someone will like it

            Personally, I didn’t like it. Too frankly carries from her a "cult of personality" ... wink
            Quote: lilit.193
            Type corrected

            Something like I doubt ... laughing

            However, “+” to you, Lilith. good
            1. lilit.193
              lilit.193 29 August 2013 17: 54 New
              +1
              Thank you for understanding! smile
          2. Allegedly
            Allegedly 27 August 2013 02: 33 New
            +2
            Let it steers, if he is in power, then even in other countries you feel calmer. The Chinese used to have a curse in the old days - “Living in an era of change”.
  • Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 24 August 2013 11: 33 New
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    Dear Yuri Polyakov, we no longer criticize the authorities. She is already swearing in the last words and what does the white light stand for ...
    And for the regular increase in utility tariffs, and for raising gas prices. And for the low wages of lower-level medical personnel. And for the fact that they did not put Serdyukov. And for the fact that the titles of the Hero of Russia were received by those who cut the throats of Russian soldiers. And for giving away all kinds of money to dubious "allies" like the DPRK and Bangladesh ... And for the theft at the construction of Olympic facilities in Sochi ...
    And this list is not small ...
    1. nbw
      nbw 25 August 2013 23: 58 New
      -1
      mother in the last words and what is the white light on ...


      The authorities swear by “the last words” either agents of influence, or schoolchildren who have not seen the 90s, or the poor-minded.

      I'll justify my words.

      Claim 0 - A person who thinks with his head a little, and not only listens to what they are told by the "democratic" media, cannot but notice that "power" is not a single organism; it is quite obviously divided into the anti-Russian “liberal” majority and the statist minority (yes, headed by the President);

      p.1 - everything is clear with influence agents - they have such a job, create illusions, call black white and vice versa;

      point 2 - there is a good joke about those whom I called "schoolchildren":
      - Why are you not happy with Putin?
      - It is difficult to find work without experience, prices are rising, rents are rising.
      - Was it better in 90?
      - No problem. In kindergarten I had breakfast, played and sleep.

      I hope the idea is clear. Screaming that "in Russia it is getting worse every year" can either those who have not seen the 90s, or patients with progressive sclerosis;

      Clause 3 - regarding the "poor". Inability to perceive and analyze information coming through the senses, it seems to me, can be considered a sign of stupidity. If in “totalitarian” Soviet times it was still possible to blame the limitations of thinking on the lack of information, now, during the time of the public Internet, you just need to read, watch and think. If someone is not able - let him turn to a psychiatrist. Here it is well written about these, sincerely: http://tessey.livejournal.com/486952.html
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 27 August 2013 00: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: nbw
        The authorities use the “last words” either agents of influence, or schoolchildren who have not seen the 90s, or the poor

        Is it that it has become fashionable to blame all those who "mother of power with the last words" of poor mind? ..

        Quote: nbw
        I'll justify my words

        The rationale is rather weak. It is far-fetched and looks like an election campaign ...
        And the material from the link and in general completely sucks. It can only be attributed to the ridiculous attempt to cover up the eyes with snot in sugar. I would advise his "author" to descend from heaven to earth. Or at least get out from behind a computer, go outside and listen to what simple provincial people say ...
        And I advise you the same ...

        PS And by the way, the minus in the rating of your comment is not mine. But if you want ... wink
  • Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 24 August 2013 12: 24 New
    +4
    I will express my thoughts on the topic: Who is really to blame?
    I’ll start like this: “Than to consider the gossips to work,
    Isn't it better to turn on yourself, godfather? ”
    I.A. Krylov

    There is not a single discussion of an economic, political, social nature that does not mention “enemies” and obstacles to Russia.
    This is the notorious West and the "orange" and Yeltsin, and yet hell, who and what.
    Guys, friends, it's time to stop looking for the causes of failure outside.
    In Soviet times, no Western influence could weaken us.
    Good or bad, only we are responsible for everything. And I and each of us and the president are no exception ...
    Obstacles, in fact, no ... These are phantoms that firmly sit in our heads in the form of beliefs, attitudes, fears, habits.
    Remember Bulgakov? What is devastation? Devastation is not an old woman with a hook ...
    ... yes, it does not exist at all.
    ... Consequently, devastation ... in the heads.
    ... each of us (as amended by me) must hit his neck! And so, when he hatches out all kinds of hallucinations and engages in cleaning his sheds - with his direct deed - devastation will disappear by itself. "
    Something like that.
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 13: 28 New
    +1
    Despite everything that happened in our country over these 20 years, it is worth agreeing that our GREAT MOTHERLAND RUSSIA is developing on its own. Think RUSSIA has become the 5th economy of the world i.e. Europe’s largest economy in PPP and the seventh world economy in nominal terms we have the second world aviation (if you believe the liberals) and we don’t believe them, thank God we have the 5th army of the world army in numbers (although if we want the whole world will send the largest tank fleet and nuclear arsenal in the world and this is a small part of what we have
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 24 August 2013 15: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      RUSSIA has become the 5th economy of the world i.e. Europe's largest PPP economy and seventh world economy in nominal

      How do you know? laughing
      1. GREAT RUSSIA
        GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 15: 23 New
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        if you are me, then I learned it from the Russia 24 channel and the First channel
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 24 August 2013 15: 44 New
          +3
          Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
          if you are me, then I learned it from the Russia 24 channel and the First channel

          Of course to you - I highlighted your quote.

          And I asked you about the way in which the Russian Federation achieved the results you indicated.
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          2. GREAT RUSSIA
            GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 16: 30 New
            +1
            I honestly do not know request but if you know I’ll ask you to enlighten me if this does not complicate you hi
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 24 August 2013 16: 38 New
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              See the meaning of the abbreviation "GDP" - correlate with rising prices.
              1. GREAT RUSSIA
                GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 18: 44 New
                +1
                many thanks hi for this you plus
              2. nbw
                nbw 26 August 2013 00: 08 New
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                I do not quite understand what you wanted to say "rising prices."

                http://putin-club.livejournal.com/117559.html

                http://putin-club.livejournal.com/117163.html

                - Is it all due to the "price increase", or you just do not want to notice the obvious?
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 26 August 2013 00: 42 New
                  0
                  Quote: nbw
                  I do not quite understand what you wanted to say "rising prices."

                  And about the witlessness of words spreading laughing
                  Take an interest in the abbreviation of GDP.
                  1. nbw
                    nbw 26 August 2013 00: 59 New
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                    Take an interest in the abbreviation of GDP.

                    This is not an answer. You in a previous post directly linked GDP and price increases. Either open the thought, or do not jerk.
                    1. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 26 August 2013 01: 02 New
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                      And how is your GDP growing? See meaning of abbreviation.
                      1. nbw
                        nbw 26 August 2013 10: 48 New
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                        It seems to me you are fooling around.

                        Gross domestic product (Gross Domestic Product), generally accepted reduction - GDP (English GDP) is a macroeconomic indicator reflecting the market value of all final goods and services (that is, intended for direct consumption) produced per year in all sectors of the economy in the territory states for consumption, export and accumulation, regardless of the nationality of the factors of production used. This concept was first proposed in 1934 by Simon Kuznets.

                        Allocate nominal and real GDP (English nominal and real GDP). Nominal (absolute) GDP is expressed in current prices of a given year. Real (adjusted for inflation) - is expressed in prices of the previous or any other base year. In real GDP, the extent to which GDP growth is determined by real growth in production, rather than price increases, is taken into account [1]. The ratio of nominal GDP to real is called the GDP deflator. Actual GDP is part-time GDP that reflects the realized opportunities of the economy. Potential GDP is the GDP at full employment, it reflects the potential of the economy. The latter can be much higher than the real ones. The difference between actual and potential GDP is called the GDP gap.
                        (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_Internal_product
                        )

                        GDP-1GDP-1
                        GDP-2
                      2. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 26 August 2013 12: 39 New
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                        Super. laughing

                        That is, GDP is not directly related to the growth of production volumes - this is essentially only the total amount of transactions concluded.

                        From 2000 to the 12th year, housing and communal services tariffs increased by 16 times, electricity tariffs by 12. To refuse this expense item, with very few exceptions, not a single household, not a single enterprise can pay.

                        Here is the main reason for GDP growth.
  • mr.rafael-r
    mr.rafael-r 24 August 2013 13: 43 New
    +2
    I am an inveterate URA-Patriot and I am proud of it.
    I can not stand the United States, BUT I really want the authorities in Russia to begin to do everything according to the patterns of the United States. To drive fucking liberals in such a framework that they would not be able to pickle. Adopt laws to protect the interests of the state as they have. And plant our Meningos deeply and for a long time.

    Mad for FORUM wiseacons. I asked Kennedy with the words of one such freak - Do not ask what your country can do for you. Ask yourself what can you do for her but only in Russian words (literally) - and blasphemy ... and you made for the country, besides buy and sell, you planted a branch .. and a tree, raised a son and sent him to serve in the Russian army, at least he did something with his own hands, speaking of construction? He’s standing, looking at me, and the bastard doesn’t understand what I want from him.

    I am also asking YOU opponents of GDP - what have YOU done and are doing for Russia?
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 24 August 2013 13: 50 New
      0
      Totally agree with you
      1. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 24 August 2013 13: 54 New
        +1
        Criticizing power is very simple, and the 90s are forgotten, you quickly get used to the good. This impression everyone wants chaos and revolution.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 24 August 2013 15: 25 New
          -2
          Quote: ivshubarin
          and 90s were forgotten

          Do not forget, and if you compare - let's compare the second half of the 99th with the first half of the 08th, and not some kind of conditional 90s.
    2. GREAT RUSSIA
      GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 13: 51 New
      -1
      are you about me forum wiseacres or about others?
      1. mr.rafael-r
        mr.rafael-r 24 August 2013 13: 54 New
        -2
        No. Not about you. I am to the total mass of hamsters. But if it turned out about you, then it is very sorry)))).
    3. a52333
      a52333 24 August 2013 15: 39 New
      0
      Do not bother them - they are thinking how to take everything and share. You read their comments, grab your head! Putin is rearming the army. DAAAAAAAA YOUNG!
      The tariff for light increased by 2 pennies.
      Putin is on the soap. Oligarchs !!! Looted !!! People rise !!! Simple business, take and share !!! They themselves would be put behind the wheel (pah, pah, God forbid), in 10 minutes the country will be destroyed.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 24 August 2013 16: 00 New
        +4
        Quote: a52333
        The tariff for light increased by 2 pennies.
        13 times in 12.5 years - 2 kopecks however.

        Simple business, take and share !!!
        You look at the meaning of the concept of "nationalization" in the dictionary so that Fedorov does not repeat this nonsense.
  • mr.rafael-r
    mr.rafael-r 24 August 2013 13: 57 New
    -1
    To the topic of hamsters.
    I have a brother, the youngest. He is not just a hamster - a hamster. A lot of bastard said bad things about the USSR and the significance of Russians in history. I’ve been convincing him anyway. did not help. Cracked on the head and seemed to pretend that he heeded. ))))
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 24 August 2013 17: 17 New
      0
      Quote: mr.rafael-r
      To the topic of hamsters.
      I have a brother, the youngest. He is not just a hamster - a hamster. A lot of bastard said bad things about the USSR and the significance of Russians in history. I’ve been convincing him anyway. did not help. Cracked on the head and seemed to pretend that he heeded. ))))
      Remember the experience of Pavlik Morozov, hand over your brother to the FSB. No brother, no problem.
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 13: 59 New
    +1
    if you are talking about me, I don’t criticize the authorities, on the contrary, I’m even glad that the government is sensible, but what I wrote above, I write there about what we have achieved over these 13 years and what we managed to save from the USSR
    1. mr.rafael-r
      mr.rafael-r 24 August 2013 14: 01 New
      +4
      Well then, definitely not to YOU. The post was not written on your koment, but as an emotion. Well, people scolding me enrage me.
  • wow
    wow 24 August 2013 14: 03 New
    +2
    That's right, as they say "p ... do not toss the bags"!
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 14: 04 New
    +2
    Quote: mr.rafael-r
    Well then, definitely not to YOU. The post was not written on your koment, but as an emotion. Well, people scolding me enrage me.

    I fully understand you, too, enraging people who scold and insult their homeland.
  • Russ69
    Russ69 24 August 2013 14: 30 New
    +2
    As history shows, in order to raise a country out of ruin, many years of consolidation are required. And all the hysteria of the liberals is clearly not conducive to this, which worries me very much.

    Gold words!!!
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 24 August 2013 15: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Russ69
      it takes many years of consolidation to lift a country out of ruin

      Quote: Russ69
      Gold words!!!

      I set you a minus. For I will never consolidate with the Abramovichs and Vekselbergs. We are on opposite sides of the barricades.
  • Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 24 August 2013 16: 28 New
    +4
    I can not agree with the cheers. Not because they are truly patriots (this is good), but because of their unwillingness or lack of understanding of reality.
    I want to remind you that 90% of what we have is not a merit of GDP.
    This is the merit of the Soviet people. This is the groundwork that we still use.
    This is an indicator of the former powerful superpower.
    Let me remind you that after the devastating Great Patriotic War in 10-15 years, the efforts of the Soviet people (then we were called) under the leadership of the IVS, the country was practically restored.
    I am not a Stalinist, even though I have such a nickname.
    I can’t stand it when a new cult of personality is being created in front of my eyes, to a person who has undoubtedly done something for Russia, but who has done no less harm. I’m sure not on purpose, because of incompetence, but our kind of life has started a bit too much. Do you want to make sure, I ask the cheers-patriots to visit the Tver region for a start, then the Pskov ... Do you need to continue?
    Tell the locals how Russia is flourishing, but show the site "made with us". I think they will count the edges for you ...
    I am convinced that we are not going our own way, but alien to Russia.
    So why should I applaud and to whom? Against conscience to go? Parenting does not allow.
    I repeat for opponents, I am a realist and I don’t go in pink glasses.
    I want to see my homeland prosperous, like all forum users. And I honestly fulfilled my contribution and am still doing it.
    1. Xroft
      Xroft 24 August 2013 18: 23 New
      +1
      If you are a realist, do you see a real alternative to Putin? What kind of person? can he really stand in power and be an independent leader in modern conditions? and in addition a powerful international figure? I do not see such. And the talk about what happened during the USSR and what will happen now is just not an understanding of reality.
      1. Samsebenaum
        Samsebenaum 24 August 2013 19: 27 New
        +4
        Xroft

        How tired of these provocative questions.
        Really among 140 million there are no more economic, more professional and capable people?
        Dear colleague, the power vertical is built in such a way that any applicant will climb on it with the same success as on an ice wall. And this is no accident.
        As for reality ... By style I see that you are still young and wearing pink glasses is inherent in young maximalists.
        The time of maturity will come and you will see a lot differently, I promise ...
        1. Xroft
          Xroft 24 August 2013 20: 05 New
          -1
          And here are provocative questions? it is a reflection of reality. The vertical of power has always been built so that ordinary people do not get there. Hoping that the head of the collective farm will become the head of the country? (Khrushchev still remember) this is children's naivety and nostalgia for the USSR. Reality dictates what you should do and not your hopes of rebuilding the world to your standards.
          ps at 34 years old, I think I lost pink glasses for a long time ..... And maturity should not be confused with not wanting to see modern reality. As it was written to raise the country from ruin, it takes many years of consolidation and Putin as a leader is quite suitable for a person in whom there will be no such shocks as in the 90s. You have not answered the question about the person .....
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 19: 45 New
    -1
    Quote: Samsebenum
    How tired of these provocative questions.
    Really among 140 million there are no more economic, more professional and capable people?

    I completely agree with such people who are able to glorify RUSSIA quite a few simply someone does not know how to achieve this power, they do not let someone in, and someone is afraid that they will just kill him sad. because there should be such a person, even though one in a million, and we have how many of these millions, as many as 140, so there are such people at least one dozen. smile
    1. Xroft
      Xroft 24 August 2013 20: 50 New
      +1
      A person who does not know how to achieve power will never receive it, they will not let a person who cannot find a compromise between all interested parties, this is the essence of competition. People who are afraid are generally contraindicated to fight for anything. Only those who deserve it and were able to achieve it receive power.
      Ps Forgive me, but how do you differ from the * hamsters * who scream for Putin / against Putin? what naivete and faith in a * man * who just comes from nowhere and brings order? Power was never given ....
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 21: 52 New
    0
    Quote: Xroft
    A person who does not know how to achieve power will never receive it, they will not let a person who cannot find a compromise between all interested parties, this is the essence of competition. People who are afraid are generally contraindicated to fight for anything. Only those who deserve it and were able to achieve it receive power.
    Ps Forgive me, but how do you differ from the * hamsters * who scream for Putin / against Putin? what naivete and faith in a * man * who just comes from nowhere and brings order? Power was never given ....

    I completely agree with you, but I’m not one of those hamsters who criticize Putin and the authorities, and I didn’t express a stupid and completely naive faith in a man who will not appear at all, I just expressed the opinion that there should be people among all this 140 million people who, if they are not worthy of the presidency, can still become strong politicians in the future, and not beg and complain like children that the elections were held incorrectly. I, like you, do not have this pink veil in front of my eyes, so I believe that you are still right that those who deserve it receive power and I consider Putin to be such a person. With respect to you and forum users hi do not misunderstand me hi
    1. Xroft
      Xroft 24 August 2013 22: 12 New
      +1
      I say in general that reasoning about such people as reasoning in defense / attack of Putin. If such people were we would have known them for a long time .... And since I have already spoken since 1993 not a single serious political figure. Time will tell whether they will appear in the future ... again, we should see Putin’s real heir, not a screen like Medvedev.
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 22: 23 New
    0
    Quote: Xroft
    I say in general that reasoning about such people as reasoning in defense / attack of Putin. If such people were we would have known them for a long time .... And since I have already spoken since 1993 not a single serious political figure. Time will tell whether they will appear in the future ... again, we should see Putin’s real heir, not a screen like Medvedev.

    Yes, I agree with you how long we have to wait for the real heir to be honest I don’t know, but in my opinion no political figure is simply capable of replacing him, so I think the new person will be a complete surprise to us. request
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 27 August 2013 08: 34 New
    0
    Yes, as in the statement of one character: "... horses, people ... mixed up in a heap, about the good communists and the good king and right after Nekrasovsky:" the gentleman-master will come to judge us! " I want to recall the statement of "tagged" to a question from the people that you promised that we would live better, he replied: "... we live better ...". Yes, they live better, and the people are fools again. And N.A. Nekrasova recalled when I read about the "good" communist. As for the current Guarantor of the Constitution, I would not be in a hurry to draw conclusions, because something good has already been done. We will live and see! And a government that praises very few people seems to be driving in the wrong direction (it looks like resistance to GDP policy is growing).