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Airborne bets on contract

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Airborne bets on contract

In the Airborne Forces of the Russian Federation, the percentage of servicemen serving under contract is growing. This was "NVO" said the official representative of the Airborne Forces Major Irina Kruglova. Moreover, more than 2 thousand contract soldiers arrived in parts and airborne units in the first half of the current year. Of these, more than half are military personnel called up from the reserve, which is three times more than the data for the same period of the previous year, the officer said.


She noted that today in all units and formations of the Airborne Forces already about half of the soldiers of the category “soldiers-sergeants” are contract servicemen. At the same time, the Ulyanovsk Airborne Assault (Peacekeeping) Brigade is fully contractual. In addition, in each division of the Airborne Forces, the recruitment of individual peacekeeping battalions is completed, where contract servicemen will be serving military service exclusively. Earlier, Airborne Troops Commander Colonel-General Vladimir Shamanov said that “by the end of 2017, all the parachute and assault assault battalions of the formations and units will be fully staffed with contract servicemen”.

It remains to be noted that the recruitment of contract servicemen in the Airborne Forces is carried out by the airborne troops themselves, together with the military commissariats, who carry out extensive advocacy work among young people in various regions of the country. And the selection of future blue berets takes place at recruiting stations, where candidates are examined for health, physical fitness and the presence of a civilian specialty. Additional training for their military specialty, they are held in units and formations, as well as in special courses.
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  1. mirag2
    mirag2 23 August 2013 10: 40 New
    10
    Well, the hackneyed phrase, “professionals must serve in the army” is still suitable — for a person with experience lives on the battlefield longer — a great opportunity to carry out command tasks follows automatically.
    1. 225chay
      225chay 23 August 2013 11: 12 New
      +5
      Quote: mirag2
      professionals must serve in the army "is still suitable, because a person with experience lives on the battlefield longer

      And rightly so!
      Of course, contract soldiers and experienced officers. What kind of fighter is a paratrooper in one year?
      1. AVV
        AVV 23 August 2013 13: 14 New
        +2
        More such guys! And the army will be reborn again after the Serdyukov devastation !!!
    2. Mitek
      Mitek 23 August 2013 11: 17 New
      12
      Quote: mirag2
      Well, the hackneyed phrase, “professionals must serve in the army” is still suitable — for a person with experience lives on the battlefield longer — a great opportunity to carry out command tasks follows automatically.

      Vseravno and in the Airborne Forces there should be battalions of draftees. Personnel reserve to prepare. Just in case of a "fire" case.
      1. poquello
        poquello 23 August 2013 20: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: Mitek

        Vseravno and in the Airborne Forces there should be battalions of draftees. Personnel reserve to prepare. Just in case of a "fire" case.

        Just in case of fire - it is necessary to develop the applied civil hobbies of youth. For example, from guys who are suitable for reserve, do not take money for jumping, but finance one-time incentive payments on the number of jumps, shooting clubs, military truck races on the intersection, etc.
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 23 August 2013 20: 46 New
          +1
          Quote: poquello
          and finance incentive payments one-time on the number of jumps

          That's bullshit.
          It is quite enough to finance and support ROSTO (DOSAF).
          Everything was invented before us.
          Look for firefighters,
          Looking for militia,
          Looking for photographers
          In our capital,
          They are looking for a long time,
          But they can not find
          Some guy
          Twenty years.

          Middle-height,
          Shoulder and strong,
          He walks in white
          T-shirt and cap.
          TRP sign
          On his chest.
          No longer know
          About him nothing.

          Many guys
          Shoulder and strong.
          Many wear
          T-shirts and caps.
          A lot in the capital
          The same icons.
          Each
          To work-defense
          Ready
          It was this generation that won the hardest war!
          1. poquello
            poquello 23 August 2013 21: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: Papakiko
            Quote: poquello
            and finance incentive payments one-time on the number of jumps

            That's bullshit.
            It is quite enough to finance and support ROSTO (DOSAF).
            Everything was invented before us.

            It would be nice, but Dosaf rested, and the guys jump, drive, shoot. Is it very important for you that skills are acquired under dosaf? For me, the main thing is to stimulate skills, and from sin it’s better to ban politicization altogether, otherwise they might go to the wrong place to convince.
    3. My address
      My address 23 August 2013 11: 52 New
      +5
      Often lives more at the expense of others. And in the army should serve the patriots in the first place, and the patriots certainly become faster professionals. Liberasts have a blue dream, so that all the planes are based on one airfield, so that only professionals / contract servicemen are in the army. So that there was no reserve from Russia.
      I think you need an optimal ratio of appeal and mercenaries.
    4. Siberian German
      Siberian German 23 August 2013 13: 40 New
      +2
      okay, but the question is, and from whom is the contractor obtained
  2. domokl
    domokl 23 August 2013 10: 46 New
    +3
    Preparing a full-fledged soldier for the Airborne Forces in a year is not possible. The minimum 2-3 of the year. Therefore, the contract is the only way. In the same way, all types of special forces must be fully transferred to the contract.
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 23 August 2013 10: 55 New
      +3
      Yes, and most importantly, start paying normally ... then the army will increase professionalism
    2. My address
      My address 23 August 2013 11: 12 New
      +1
      I do not agree with you, Alexander.
      From my own experience I don’t respect overs / contract soldiers in the army. See my comment below. Another thing is the need to increase the service to 1,5 - 2 years.
      1. il grand casino
        il grand casino 23 August 2013 14: 06 New
        +2
        Well, our comments do not contradict each other. I also have nothing against military service. As an example, your comment confirming your nizhnik - Israel. Let them knock out the floor of the squad, reservists will immediately make up for the losses. In my comment, I was only trying to convey the idea that everyone needs a normal salary. And officers and contractors and conscripts are not in vain to pay. Another thing is that in our country, as you know, there is money for everything .. but just not for the right
      2. domokl
        domokl 23 August 2013 15: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: My address
        From my own experience I do not respect over-conscripts / contract soldiers in the army

        I read your comment. Let me recall my experience then. It takes at least three to four months to prepare a normally working group. And these are not conscripts, these are officers and warrant officers.
        And about the warehouses ... There has always been and always will always be either a piece, either Ukrainian or Azerbaijani ... The mentality is ... laughing
        1. My address
          My address 23 August 2013 15: 41 New
          0
          I can only hi. Frames decide everything. As in the army, and in the civilian world.
  3. fklj
    fklj 23 August 2013 10: 51 New
    +7
    How much talk was about the "super contract army", and things are still there. And will be. Because an army consisting of only contract soldiers is a utopia.
    1. Retx
      Retx 23 August 2013 10: 58 New
      +3
      So there was no question of a fully contracted Russian army. It is the liberals who like to ponder this topic.
      According to plans, the figure will not exceed 400 thousand contractors for all troops.
      1. My address
        My address 23 August 2013 11: 41 New
        +2
        You are right.
        What, God forbid, will happen, they will bleed the pair of troops of Uncle Vasya (I respect them and the border guards), and where is the prepared reserve? In Karaganda? All questions to the I-di-otu Shamanov and the enemy Nemtsov?
  4. Arkan
    Arkan 23 August 2013 11: 01 New
    0
    That's right, you need a professional. New, modern technology cannot be mastered in one year of service.
    1. 6216390
      6216390 23 August 2013 11: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: Arkan
      That's right, you need a professional.

      Both are needed, the youth must undergo army training at least in those military specialties where the development of complex equipment is not required.
  5. My address
    My address 23 August 2013 11: 07 New
    +5
    Dur Shamanovskaya.
    Seen enough in 70-x on the "pieces" (over-riders) in the army, where the dirt is not afraid. For two years he worked out the military department. Even then, the main combat mission of the extras was in hit with the suppliers. Another thing is that a good mech-water, not to mention the tank commander, was obtained not earlier than a year and a half. There were exceptions for extra terms for the better, but exceptions. The reason for the negative, it seems to me, is in the non-admission of overruns to the command, in the non-admission of them to the officers in the future. But if the best move to the commanders!
  6. slvevg
    slvevg 23 August 2013 11: 36 New
    +8
    In the photo, the nearest paratrooper-personification of the Russian airborne forces, urgently sent to the news sites of the USA and Europe, and on the billboard to the Kuril Islands, Kaliningrad (to the border with Poland) and stocking up with beer, tomorrow the media will talk about the waking up, hungry bear laughing More such pictures, but with such serious faces ...
  7. Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt 23 August 2013 11: 54 New
    0
    Contract mobilization of the army.
  8. Per se.
    Per se. 23 August 2013 11: 57 New
    +1
    A year of service, of course, is not enough, but it would probably be worthwhile to create at least one training center for airborne reservists for conscripts. In general, one should not underestimate the moral of the CONSTITUTIONAL DEBT, everyone should serve if the urgent is divided into military (with prestige and benefits) and civil (with training in civil defense and working off into the defense fund), then the terms of urgent can be increased, this will give not only the quality of preparation and saving money, but also income to the army’s fund from the civil service, especially if the “fighters for equality” will also help the army here.
  9. zevs379
    zevs379 23 August 2013 12: 00 New
    +4
    Yes photo test !!!! I wonder what the guy’s name is. This is how a Russian warrior should be.
    1. 225chay
      225chay 23 August 2013 13: 50 New
      -1
      Quote: zevs379
      Yes photo test !!!! I wonder what the guy’s name is

      Abdrahman son of Abdullah))
  10. Corsair
    Corsair 23 August 2013 13: 02 New
    +1
    The title of the article:
    Airborne bets on contract


    What can I say, SAME+)
  11. vietnam7
    vietnam7 23 August 2013 13: 09 New
    +2
    In the 99th in Dagestan, the demobilization approached us, they promised to replace purely from contract soldiers, some young ones remained in the brigade. Somehow, everything dragged on, in the end, a colonel flew in from Moscow to collect komzzodov and gave the installation: “tomorrow morning so that two-thirds of the hp sign the contract.” The replacement eventually arrived, I hope now the methods are different.
  12. Hleb
    Hleb 23 August 2013 13: 42 New
    0
    who's in the subject? what's on the chevron for the ornaments. what's the uniform in this color? chtoli gathered in Kazakhstan
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 23 August 2013 14: 17 New
      0
      I figured out all the same. When uploading photos, you need to clarify the nuances, because some of these moments are also interesting (I thought again the innovations in the troops). As for these ornaments and colors, these units are involved in peacekeeping operations within the framework of the CSTO. still do not understand what is painted there

      have they really established a star by analogy with NATO.
      1. Proud.
        Proud. 23 August 2013 15: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Gleb
        . although I still do not understand what is painted there

        CSTO symbol - The image of the quadrangular fortification (the historical symbol of the defensive structure) symbolizes the non-offensive character of the CSTO. A golden ball (a symbol of solidity and unity). A laurel - oak wreath symbolizes the courage and valor of the military of the CSTO member states. Reproduction of the image of the CSTO emblem is allowed in color and monochrome (blue, black), as well as in volumetric version. About camouflage. Similar camouflage, worn by Russian paratroopers during joint exercises with the armed forces of Asian countries in desert and steppe areas.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 23 August 2013 15: 44 New
          +1
          thank you! it should have been in the news
  13. Stiletto
    Stiletto 23 August 2013 13: 43 New
    +1
    How proud I am that these tough guys are fighters of Russia! Compare with recent photos of the aircraft of Austria, Latvia, Finland and something else there ...

    And to us with such little brothers - the devil himself is not a brother!
  14. ivachum
    ivachum 23 August 2013 13: 57 New
    +5
    Quote: vietnam7
    In the 99th in Dagestan, the demobilization approached us, they promised to replace purely from contract soldiers, some young ones remained in the brigade. Somehow, everything dragged on, in the end, the colonel flew in from Moscow to collect the komzvodov and gave the installation: “By tomorrow morning so that two-thirds of the liter.” with. signed a contract. & yauot; The replacement eventually arrived, I hope now the methods are different.


    You won’t believe it ... but now another “attack”, I’m sorry, the company is recruiting for the contract ... The methods of “campaigning” are the same ... Officers who have not fulfilled the plan for recruiting “contractors” in their units are threatened with dismissal or shoot laughing . The plan for October is 70% of the recruits now serving. And do not care that they do not want to remain in the army - the main thing is to fulfill the PLAN. In 4-5 years there will be another “plan” - to disperse these contractors. As in 2010 ... am
  15. Vtel
    Vtel 23 August 2013 14: 15 New
    0
    Moreover, more than 2 thousand contract soldiers arrived in the units and formations of the Airborne Forces in the first half of this year. Of these, more than half are military personnel called up from the reserve, which is three times more than the data for the same period of the previous year


    Well, it’s not bad. Contract! - There is a contract! - By screws!
  16. 787nkx
    787nkx 23 August 2013 15: 22 New
    +2
    Contractor, 3rd year of service, 1,5th salary, there is practically no home, salary less than 30.
    In the long run under such conditions, it is hardly possible to count on him.
    He has no opportunity to start a family and will not make special savings with such a salary.
    As soon as it matures for the concept of the whole situation, the report writes.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 23 August 2013 16: 52 New
      +1
      The opposite example, a citizen is not working, if you find 15 thousand and then with difficulty. No work experience went into the woods or in movers or packers.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 23 August 2013 16: 54 New
        0
        I absolutely agree. Many people are saved from drunkenness and hopelessness by the army! From close relatives, two children, they live normally. Every year on vacation at sea. All wisely, if you live and serve wisely.
        but the conditions of service are the hardest of course ... you have to be up in the morning, in the evening after hanging up home.
  17. My address
    My address 23 August 2013 16: 07 New
    +1
    Now in the army order. I heard from many. Including strangled hazing. Let's pay the conscript 15 thousand per month. from the very beginning, but on condition of one and a half years of service in some troops. And sailors on 20. Plus the benefits of tuition. Otboyu will not be from aspiring to the Airborne Forces, frontiers, tankers, submariners and some more. This is prestige. Plus we get a reserve just in case. And back men.

    Contractors hold no more than 30%. Of these, prepare at least half of the officers. In the production of art. site master with the formation of all 11 classes, but what a senior master! Gold! Early shop baldness all perelo to achieve approval in the post. A rarely normal thirty-year-old dreams only of sergeant grubs.

    Of the younger (contract), who wants to become commanders, it is necessary to do the commanders. Of these, officers are better than after school. And when he knows that the limit of art. ensign, then and return of FIG.
  18. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    NOBODY EXCEPT US 23 August 2013 16: 07 New
    0
    My tribe worked urgently, then they persuaded the contract for a long time anyway, he left for a civilian, although he served in the GRU special forces (20BSN) conditions, exactly, the salary is still more, so wait for the patriots, it’s not clear what their families will live for, but for the zombie complete lies .....
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 23 August 2013 16: 48 New
      +1
      you would read what you write again.
  19. biglow
    biglow 23 August 2013 16: 37 New
    0
    the harsh faces of our paratroopers laughing
    As Voroshilov said, and let the enemy shudder at the glitter of our bayonets
  20. observer
    observer 23 August 2013 17: 15 New
    0
    And I believe that in a year it’s quite possible to prepare a soldier, if you are engaged in combat training, and not endless breakdowns and sweeping the parade ground, you have served for at least 5 years, if you were not taught anything sensible, as you were an airmobile janitor, you will remain.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 23 August 2013 17: 24 New
      0
      I agree. For a year, you can absolutely make a normal warrior (if you set a goal) from a young man who came to the army physically developed and with a smart head. Let’s take the question of recruiting such recruits. But why prepare a year and then release him in civilian life. essence. the reserve will be, and who will serve and fight? again a set of young-preparation-seeing off home ...
  21. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 23 August 2013 18: 29 New
    -2
    Note - all developed countries have already refused the draft. It is expensive and inefficient.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 23 August 2013 22: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Note - all developed countries have already refused the draft.
      This is in what "all developed" countries? In France, mixed picking, where 70% on call. In Italy, Spain on call. Turkey, by call. China, by call. Two powerful armies of small countries, the DPRK and Israel, on call, moreover, in Israel, military men and women. Germany, bringing the term of service to absurdity, - 6 months, decided to switch to a contract, yes a “sweet couple”, the UK, where recruitment is recruited, and the United States, in which no one from the locals wants to serve, and even more so, for free their country to die. England and the USA, two parasites that always hovered behind the English Channel or the Atlantic with the Pacific Ocean, robbing the whole world of mercenaries. Now Russia is being pressed, they made an absurd year of urgency, after which it is necessary to drag the hiring. A contract army will always be more expensive, unless, of course, it is a symbolic army of a small state with strong patrons. For us, we must either increase the service life, or, as in France, do mixed picking.
  22. Arkan
    Arkan 23 August 2013 19: 23 New
    0
    Quote: 6216390
    Quote: Arkan
    That's right, you need a professional.

    Both are needed, the youth must undergo army training at least in those military specialties where the development of complex equipment is not required.


    I’m writing about the Airborne Forces, there is no simple technique in the Airborne Forces.
  23. ivachum
    ivachum 23 August 2013 20: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Note - all developed countries have already refused the draft. It is expensive and inefficient.


    And now they are screaming in the media that their armies will not last even a week against the RF Armed Forces. laughing

    As for the "very developed" countries ... It was a necessary measure ... for example, most of the US losses in Afghanistan are actually not US citizens. Not everyone lives up to his (citizenship) receipt am . France in Africa, too.
  24. aud13
    aud13 23 August 2013 22: 35 New
    +2
    It looks like 2 conclusions can be made on this article and comments:
    1. Soon all the airborne troops will be contractors;
    2. There are problems for which people do not want to go to serve under the contract.

    Accordingly, it is necessary to solve the problem of increasing the combat readiness of the Airborne Forces.
    In my opinion, this principle of solving this problem was designated back in the days of the USSR. For this, DOSAAF was created. You can argue about the quality of training of individual specialists, but the work was really carried out.
    Now the guys serve only one year. For a year, the majority for a year is just beginning to understand what a service is and gaining the necessary experience. Accordingly, in the event of a "contingency situation" even the airborne forces will not be fully combat ready, since a significant part of the soldiers will not have the appropriate skills and experience.
    What is the way out?
    One can propose the following, since the service life is currently quite short, why not think over the training programs for pre-conscription youth who will be drafted into the Airborne Forces (and not only).
    This program should include the training of one of the military or technical specialties, jump training, as well as sports training. Moreover, it is necessary to think over a system of material and moral incentives for draftees.
    At the same time, it would be nice if in such elite units as the Airborne Forces, Special Forces, etc., the preliminary selection was carried out by their future commanders, who could get to know future soldiers in advance and give them advice and recommendations on preparing for the service.
    He himself prepared before the service in DOSAAFE (parachuting), did some sports, but it was still very difficult at first, until he got used to it.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 24 August 2013 01: 26 New
      +2
      Another conclusion is that these contractors are for Syria, where they will end in a month, and then only mobilization with strong coercion.
      By a strange coincidence, half of the French foreign legion in Mali speaks Russian and recently served in the Airborne Forces ... and the men from the villages have gone somewhere.
      http://warfiles.ru/show-37154-minoborony-rossii-palo-nic-pered-podnebesnoy.html
      The Chinese will replenish ... as Lenin’s Kremlin protection will be.
  25. zevs379
    zevs379 24 August 2013 11: 19 New
    0
    Quote: Volkhov
    The Chinese will replenish ... as Lenin’s Kremlin protection will be.

    And now who is in the Kremlin guard?
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 24 August 2013 13: 41 New
      +1
      Not Chinese yet ... like.
  26. Letnab
    Letnab 24 August 2013 15: 55 New
    +1
    photo, standings!
    probably the best option for the army will be according to a mixed principle, but professionals should essentially serve in quick response units, as well as technical specialists, sergeants, foremen as teachers. Conscripts should be considered as a prepared mobilization reserve!
    If our military service is part of our seniority, then why not pay salaries to conscripts, in fact, this will be a significant incentive for most to serve. And there already and choose from those who wish and most importantly able to serve under the contract.