Vladimir Putin appreciated the latest developments of aircraft

The head of state examined the equipment samples at the Rosvertol plant. In December 2010, he became part of the OJSC "Helicopters of Russia". This year, almost twice as many as the 2009 will be produced, the 321 machine. The increase is mainly due to military helicopters, Putin noted. "And in civil helicopter industry there are untapped opportunities and reserves. We need to seriously pull up this sector," he said.
By 2020, Russian Helicopters need to take a global market share of at least 18% and produce at least 470 machines a year. At the beginning of August, for the first time, the flight program on Rosvertol was performed by a dual-control Mi-28UB helicopter. It was he who most of all interested Putin. The president even got up and looked into the cabin. The head of state also inspected the secret part of the workshop and the VIP-interior of the Mi-38.

“The Russian helicopter industry has been demonstrating satisfactory results in recent years,” Putin estimated. “Modern domestic helicopters have proven themselves to be reliable, high-quality machines with optimal technical and price characteristics.” About 36 billion rubles to 2020 will be allocated to support civil helicopter engineering. Development must meet modern requirements. Complaints need to analyze and eliminate shortcomings, remembering that world leaders are not standing still.

Comments

[Kibalchish]

Mi-Xnumx is good!

[Hauptmann emil]

All new items are good when they "work" in our Armed Forces, and not in museums and viewing platforms. And then there is more T-90 in India than we have.

[afire]

sorry for offtop
The Kolomna Kremlin at http://10russia.ru/object_61 closed the gap since yesterday.
We need to push, we vote 3 times from each observer, if from the opera, then Mozilla, then from the explorer to go, then from each of 9 votes!

[donavi49]

Well, Mi-28H in the troops is decent. Already much more than the Tigers in France and Germany combined, but this is a Successful Eurocopter and has been under construction for 10 years in series.

Last year came 15 Mi-28Н. This will have 13-15 pieces (the decline due to UB, Mi-35 and the deployment of Mi-38).

[gispanec]

but why all the 28th go to the troops without a radar over the screws ?? ... it should be .... educate who is in the know ...

[donavi49]

There is no finished product that has passed the test. There are prototypes that are being tested on the Milev board and there are ends for testing the interface (actually MGM with the output system), which were put on the same UBshka and other boards, for testing the compatibility of the equipment during the tests.

[Nayhas]

Quote: gispanec

but why all the 28th go to the troops without a radar over the screws ??.

this is because this machine was put into service with a lot of imperfections, to finish it under the promise of aposly, that’s why they fly without a piece of equipment. Those. in words a super night hunter, but really ancient Mi-28A ...

[Dangerous]

Putin’s visit to any enterprise means help and support in everything. It’s good that this time it affected the production of helicopters

[master_rem]

So what, ours will go to MAX?

[donavi49]

Rostvertol especially help there is no point. The production was updated, there were a lot of orders (taking into account state defense orders, so they generally work for 110%), there are no financial problems, Kazan and Rostov are the most successful plants in BP holding.

[slaventi]

"The Russian helicopter industry has shown satisfactory results in recent years," Putin said. "Modern domestic helicopters have established themselves as reliable high-quality machines with optimal technical and price characteristics."

"And in civil helicopter construction there are untapped opportunities and reserves. We need to seriously tighten this sector," he said.

From such articles on the soul is nice.
Still civilian aircraft pulled up.

[fzr1000]

"And yet, where is his over-sleeve radar station?" (Basov's voice)

[donavi49]

On the second UB it is, but not a finished product, but for testing systems during testing.

All questions on the over-bus to the developer, who still can’t handle it. Yes, and there is a better alternative - Ka-52 with a Crossbow, which sees better and 1,5-2 times further. And the Ka-52 with the Crossbow is already larger than the Tigers in France, Germany or Australia.

[PPO-1980]

Keep it up! We will fill the west with our goods.

[Hort]

the main thing is that our civilian helicopter and aircraft industry does not bend completely ... But then the prospects are very vague

[donavi49]

Citizen requires its own specifics. Plus, we actually offer the customer 1 board - Mi-8 in different trim levels. There are virtually no light helicopters (Ka-226 and Ansat are not serious and problematic, but who wants to rake problems in com. Operation?).

Future?
Mi-38 years after 17.
Ka-62 of the year after 16-17 (and the first slots to Brazil).

[Hort]

We have more problems with rotorcraft regarding small helicopters. There are some developments and prototype models, but it’s still far from the series.

[denson06]

Everything is in order with helicopter equipment .. the samples are excellent .. it remains only to supply them in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the required quantity .. and soon!

[donavi49]

So they build, last year they built 289 helicopters, in this 340 they want to master. All BP 5 enterprises operate at 110%.

Only from the beginning of this year - no less than 47 helicopters for the Russian Air Force. Judging by recent news, there are still 4 Mi-8AMTS and 6 vehicles on their way to Chernigovka from the MO site, you can safely add another 10 pieces to this number. Plus a pair of Mi-28N left for Pskov. In general, relevant for now about 60 new-built helicopters since the beginning of the 2013 year.

[igor67]

Another window dressing, in the first shot in the naked glider, the gearbox was put there even no harnesses, to watch with the last shot, they shoved the mi35 in a row with the assembly, apparently the circled car.

[Mikhail3]

That is, Putin had to put the sleeve to grind? So their machining center without people grinds ... but, I understand. Someone is very interested in our real helicopter production! Why haven’t you done enough yet? Or are we fulfilling the norm? Every month, a certain number of photographs, documents, specific text, again ... Familiar.
Well, since the "age of new technologies" - let's post a provocative commentary on the profile site. Well, how can you find a truth-lover and blur out a photo or comment that can be inserted into the report? Ehe-heh, your fate is a spy, not easy ...

[igor67]

Quote: Mikhail3

That is, Putin had to put the sleeve to grind? So their machining center without people grinds ... but, I understand. Someone is very interested in our real helicopter production! Why haven’t you done enough yet? Or are we fulfilling the norm? Every month, a certain number of photographs, documents, specific text, again ... Familiar.
Well, since the "age of new technologies" - let's post a provocative commentary on the profile site. Well, how can you find a truth-lover and blur out a photo or comment that can be inserted into the report? Ehe-heh, your fate is a spy, not easy ...

They cheated in komenta, for 15 years I collected turntables and a window dress for my superiors, and what's new? 35 ka cheaper version of 24 ki, mi 28 we stood in 88 in the parking lot.

[evil hamster]

Quote: igor67

35 ka cheaper version of 24 ki

The current 35 is not cheapened by 24, but the other way around :)

Quote: igor67

I’ve been collecting turntables for 15 years and showing off a show for superiors

You may be right, but you will agree on the photo that you can’t see if there are harnesses in the fuselage or not. And to the same in what SENSE to put the gearbox and then take it out? Putin and the big bosses that the gearbox that the bucket of paint is a piece of iron. Here it’s understandable to drive a circled car into a DSP - it’s understandable, you can show images and so on to the bosses beautifully mount the IFI pictures, and so on, and then the gearbox ??? Let me remind them that they have a very solid production program for all types and disrupt the technological cycle, and for what ??? I don’t believe it.

[Mikhail3]

Well, the spy has achieved partial success. Got your account for further development. Eh ...

[igor67]

[quote = wicked hamster] [quote = igor67] 35 ka cheaper version of 24 ki [/ quote] The current 35 ka - not cheapened 24, but the opposite is true :)
[quote = igor67] I've been collecting turntables and window dressing for superiors for 15 years [/ quote]
You may be right, but you still agree from the photo you can't see whether there are harnesses in the fuselage or not. And to the same place, what is the SENSE of thrusting the gearbox and then removing it? To Putin and the big bosses that the gearbox is a bucket of paint is a piece of iron. Here's to drive a flown car into a centralized control system - this is understandable, you can show the bosses beautifully pictures on the MFI and all that, but what about the gearbox ??? Let me remind you that they have a very dense production program for all types and break the technological cycle for what ??? I don’t believe it. Your right, I am not convincing anyone. In Soviet times, we collected (about the workload) more than 20 24 ok, to the exit from the workshop, the cars stood in rows along the assembly lines, a glider, strapping with harnesses and pipelines, then another assembly line, installation of control units, chassis, the next line of engines, a gearbox, for what is it? In order not to interfere in the first place, to see what assembly process the machine is on, plus working off, testing is the running of the hydraulic system, air, and "pumps" according to you are dragged from machine to machine, and if you put the assembled product into this line, what is it for you ? Once again your right to believe or not

[evil hamster]

Dear, I do not argue with you about how it was. But the fact is that this is not the first photo report from the DSP of Rosvertol, and all of them clearly indicate that there is a parallel assembly of 3 different machines - Mi-28, Mi-35, Mi-26. Accordingly, the number of positions occupied by one type of machine is very limited and more operations are required for each position and it is not possible to do "as before" within the framework of this particular workshop. You think this is a show, because when it was different, it is not constructive.

[Mikhail3]

"I made a million like that!
Me too, but two!
Are you a businessman too?
No, I am too p ... b. "
Is the person who assembled the helicopters so intellectually rich that he wants to see the real production process in the photo with the president of the country? Have you washed the floor there, or what? Only the president with security, correspondents, snipers and was not enough on a working assembly site.

[igor67]

Quote: Mikhail3

"I made a million like that!
Me too, but two!
Are you a businessman too?
No, I am too p ... b. "
Is the person who assembled the helicopters so intellectually rich that he wants to see the real production process in the photo with the president of the country? Have you washed the floor there, or what? Only the president with security, correspondents, snipers and was not enough on a working assembly site.

Are you bored? When the president came to us, only masters and trade union gods remained at workplaces, and snipers were respected on the roof of the workshop, I personally don’t care, but did the title of the GDP article appreciate the latest developments ?! Something like this,

[donavi49]

Oh yeah . All pictures of the finished Mi-28Н, Mi-26 - this is PHOTOSHOP! All handshakes know that everything is ruined and the Russian girl does not produce anything !!! 111

The one, the most ready Mi-35, in the pictures for the customer 760 , and this will fly in, for the reporter already.

The first photo from the early assembly, in the background there is still the same Mi-28Н standing naked .

[igor67]

Quote: donavi49

Oh yeah . All pictures of the finished Mi-28Н, Mi-26 - this is PHOTOSHOP! All handshakes know that everything is ruined and the Russian girl does not produce anything !!! 111

The one, the most ready Mi-35, in the pictures for the customer 760 , and this will fly in, for the reporter already.

The first photo from the early assembly, in the background there is still the same Mi-28Н standing naked .

Wounding not early without harnesses no one will put a gear, how then to fix everything, have you ever been to an assembly?

[evil hamster]

760 - who is this, do not let vegetate in ignorance enlighten please?

[donavi49]

The Syrian Arab Republic

[evil hamster]

Oh, how, it means they’ve made 35 of them. thank

[svp67]

Quote: igor67

Another window dressing

Well, what about without it, but here is a photo of the workshop at ordinary times
. Tell me too - window dressing?

[igor67]

[quote = svp67] [quote = igor67] Another window dressing, [/ quote]
Well, what about without it, but here is a photo of the workshop at ordinary times
. Tell me too - window dressing?
Have you pulled a picture from an Internet? Well, look carefully at how a worker poses on a stepladder, then no one will push the finished product into the assembly line, the first shot is a naked glider, the assembly began: no bundles or piping, the machine on the lift and gearbox? This is called to designate the car, for they are supposedly checking that something is being done. The last photo, did not pay attention, as if the car was under repair, and not a new product, the old sealant on the hatches

[rugor]

If you assemble 2-3 helicopters per day, then you need to do this on the conveyor, and not on the stocks. Well, of course, if you really put it on the stream.

[FunkschNNX]

And what is so many workers? A friendly company drove into the assembly shop, simulate violent activity Nothing has changed, window dressing and sycophancy are ineradicable in our "effective managers". Well, to hell with them, if only the equipment was at its best and the customers were satisfied.

[saturn.mmm]

The double impression of the article. The fact that the president personally visits the factories and is interested in production is good, but the fact that everything depends on the will of the president, seems to be not very good either, he forgot about some plant and the factory was stricken. Could it be conditions to create under which thieves were severely punished and people of work stimulated to create advanced technology?

[KazaK Bo]

The most important thing in this working trip to the helicopter manufacturing plant is the FACT OF THE PRESIDENT'S TRIP! In the protocol concept, this is the fact of the special attention of the first person of the state to this issue. Well done, those who managed to "push through" this event, I imagine the difficulties of organizing this meeting. First - IRKUTSK for planes of all classes now - ROSTOV for helicopters! After all, it's not a secret for anyone that under the energetic pressure of the profile Deputy Prime Minister DVORKOVICH, through the lips and decisions of PREMIER MINISTER D. MEDVEDEV, the "foreign aircraft industry" was promoting and promoting, the Russian one was spreading rot! Everything Russian was driven underground, declared backward and unpromising. And how could the aviation industry be promising with such a disdainful attitude of the first persons in the organization of production!
What happened in the end - everyone can see. Let this be an eternal rebuke to the conductors of such an anti-Russian industrial policy ...
It looks like "the ice has broken, gentlemen, lobbyists of someone else's aircraft industry," ... but not in your direction!

[evil hamster]

By the way, pay attention to the last shot. There is board 07 and plate 03-04 - this is a board from the composition of the Budenovskaya AB in 2009. Repair, improvements? Interestingly, is he the only one or all the first series are being finalized?

[Russ69]

A helicopter is good, but the protection is weak, now there will not be enough thermal traps.

[Boa kaa]

The arrival of the President is a momentous event. In helicopter engineering, everything seems to be fine. So Putin came to PR? Not at all!
In the open part of the meeting, the problem of civil helicopter engineering was raised. Shoigu refused to purchase a commercial Russian-Italian “combat” helicopter due to the price / quality ratio and combat capabilities. And light helicopters are needed. And not just needed, but specialized ones needed: for the Ministry of Emergencies, medicine, police, special forces. Surely the GDP asked: pull a new "line"? Can you make a number of light cars at an affordable price? This is the first.
Secondly, it seems to me that after showing the equipment, the GDP asked a legitimate question: What about the new WHAT? How much can you upgrade the 90's of the last century? Amer with might and main spin helicopter drones battlefield. What about us? Just talk again?
So, it seems to me that lively creative work will begin in these two areas soon.

[donavi49]

For light specialized and other things. The police and the Ministry of Emergencies buy Eurocopters and are not particularly grieved.

It’s stupid to load Rostvertol with light helicopters; they have no experience, no equipment. Kazan should be pressed for the lungs, they are pulling Ansat. Kumertau too. There is Progress to the heap, even though the Mi-34 is bent, there is no reserve for light helicopters and in general the opportunity to master another type (Rostvertol simultaneously builds 3 type helicopters, and carries out their repair / modernization, and Progress 1 type).

Although, in Rostov, the Mi-2 pumped is now moving, but this is not at all what will be a leap backwards if you push it into the role of the lung.