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Saudi Air Force to get 1300 cluster bombs

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Saudi Air Force to get 1300 cluster bombs

The United States Air Force signed a contract with Textron Defense Systems for a total value of $ 640,786 million for the supply of 1300 cluster bombs.


The contract will be completed at Wilmington (Mass.) And is expected to be completed by December 31 2015. According to the contract, the cost of one cluster bombs is 492,912 thousand dollars. The agreement provides for the supply of UAB in the framework of the program "Foreign military sales" for the Air Force of Saudi Arabia.

In October 2010, the United States Department of Defense Defense Cooperation Agency (DSCA) notified Congress of the planned sale of Saudi Arabia under the Foreign Military Sales 84 program of F-15SA fighters, as well as other equipment and ammunition. The total cost of this delivery can be 29,432 billion dollars. The Saudi Arabian leadership request, in particular, included 1300 ammunition with a wind impact correction system and a CBU-105D / B SFW ​​/ B sensor sensor fuse.

The main purpose of the 454-kg cluster munition CBU-105, developed by Tekstron Systems based on the UAB CBU-97, is the defeat in difficult weather conditions and at any time of the day of armored vehicles and air defense facilities, including medium Tanks, lightly armored vehicles, aircraft in parking lots, mobile radars and jammers.

The UAB CBU-105 contains 10 BLU-108 / B submunitions, each of which includes four striking elements of a precise SKEET aiming at about 3 kg, equipped with IR GOS and intended for attacking armored vehicles to a weakly protected roof.

The United States and Saudi Arabia have not signed the Convention on Cluster Munitions, adopted in May 2008 in Dublin (Ireland). As of May of this year, 113 countries have joined this document.
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  1. denson06
    denson06 22 August 2013 17: 57 New
    +6
    USA and Saudi Arabia did not sign the Convention on Cluster Munitions, adopted in May 2008 in Dublin, Ireland. As of May of this year, 113 countries have joined this document.

    And this (read - the USA) - the "first" in the world HUMANISTS and Democrats .. these are the ones from whom all of Europe takes an "example" .. they produce the most real weapon of the Aggressors ..
    1. kosmos44
      kosmos44 22 August 2013 18: 17 New
      12
      Let's give Syria the Pope of All Bombs.
      1. Burbulator
        Burbulator 22 August 2013 23: 15 New
        +1
        Clear.
        But I don't understand - what about the "daddy of all bombs" carrier?
        Do you think they will wear on your hands? Also an option.
    2. Kars
      Kars 22 August 2013 19: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: denson06
      Cluster Munitions Convention

      But does it not concern only anti-personnel / ball cassettes.
      1. VAF
        VAF 22 August 2013 19: 43 New
        +7
        Quote: Kars
        But does it not concern only anti-personnel / ball cassettes.


        Hi Andrey! drinks

        Russia is a party to the Convention on the Prohibition or Limitation of the Use of Specific Conventional Weapons, which is a framework document supplemented by four protocols.

        Four protocols establish a ban or restriction on the use of "cruel" weapons:

        - the first prohibits weapons whose fragments from which the x-ray does not see in the human body.
        - the second imposes restrictions on mines-traps.
        - the third restricts the use of incendiary weapons.
        - The fourth protocol prohibits blinding laser weapons.

        An amendment was also adopted on the operation of all clauses of the convention not only in international conflicts, but also in civil wars in the territories of countries.

        Here is the full document- link-http: //www.pavlodar.com/zakon/? Dok = 04324 & all = all

        Well, I "attached" the photo of the most "extreme" development of our ugified RBK-500UM at the bottom, so .. "load" whatever you want and go.

        ! Secretly "I will say - .." haaaaroshaya thing " fellow good lesion area (ellipse) from 4 pieces from a height of 600 meters at a speed of 950 km / h - 1 km per 3.5 km .... nothing alive soldier

        This is ... for Tajikistan! soldier For the border guards! soldier

        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 22 August 2013 21: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: vaf
          "haaaarosha thing"

          Right.
          But it looks pale pale. (RBC-500 SPBE-D)
          Although our bombs all look "pale" unlike the Zaokiyansky "friends". And to compare prices, like a pair of socks (Vereshchaginskaya ShF) and PIRELLI PR6000 set.
          I don’t know the prices for one product. Please educate Sergey. soldier
        2. Nayhas
          Nayhas 22 August 2013 22: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: vaf

          ! Secretly "I will say - .." haaaaroshaya thing "

          A lot of ammunition from the cartridges is not torn, in Chechnya they were often found on the outskirts of settlements, they were stupidly thrown into ravines ... Local from the RBC buildings made fences ...
          1. VAF
            VAF 22 August 2013 22: 51 New
            +3
            Quote: Nayhas
            A lot of ammunition from the cartridges is not torn, in Chechnya they were often found on the outskirts of settlements, they were stupidly thrown into ravines ... Local from the RBC buildings made fences ...


            Greetings! It was such a thing, but this is all explained very simply - non-compliance with the reset mode in height and speed, i.e. the height of the cartridge opening is less and the fuse on the bombs does not have time to cock!

            But kicking belay .particularly shrapnel or ptaby .... cherevato however may be recourse

            Well, the hull ..... of containers and fences and floors are better! +! drinks
            1. Nayhas
              Nayhas 23 August 2013 05: 54 New
              +2
              Quote: vaf
              lesion area (ellipse) from 4 pieces from a height of 600 meters at a speed of 950 km / h - 1 km per 3.5 km .... nothing alive

              Well, I don’t know ... In 2000. we were sent to check information about a large cache, the area of ​​the Russian-Georgian border. The management did not warn anyone, and when the border guards found us and asked for ours, the duty officer had already changed (they left early in the morning), the new duty officer was driving somewhere, and the assistant was not aware and replied that there were no people on duty in that square. The frontier guards pointed aircraft at us. We were in an open place with characteristic landmarks, the ruins of an old village where the Chechens did not return after the eviction. The ruins were practically on the top of the mountain, on the slope, there was no large vegetation, because earlier this place had already been bombed, there were a couple of large craters. I mean, 30 people were in an open place, not hiding. Everyone was looking for the notorious cache, and I watched a pair of Su-25s circling above us. It is customary there that someone flies from above, you never know. In short, they circled around and then one plane began to shoot off heat traps, I saw it live for the first time and when I was about to join the search, I continued to observe. The second plane, having entered the trail of heat traps, dropped the bandura, which began to descend onto the parachute. It became even more interesting, tk. I realized that they had dropped the RBK, then the cassette opened and a cloud of submunitions appeared. I didn't understand where they fell, I didn't even hear the explosions, probably they were blown away by the wind. Then the second plane dropped by RBK and they flew away. It is also not clear where the "bombs" fell. I told my friends that the aviation worked for someone next to us, but nobody was interested. Everyone cursed the informant of the slave, because of whom they had to be dragged so far. In short, when we returned, we learned that "there was an overlap" and the aviation worked for us. Then it was somehow perceived rather indifferently ...
              I mean, it’s probably not so effective cluster weapons ...
    3. Siberian German
      Siberian German 22 August 2013 21: 08 New
      +1
      not funny - against whom they are going to use this is the trick
  2. a52333
    a52333 22 August 2013 17: 57 New
    +2
    Are they not banned? request
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 22 August 2013 18: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: a52333
      Are they not banned?

      It is forbidden, it is forbidden, but we did not sign either, just like China and the USA.
      1. 6 sunrise 9
        6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 18: 18 New
        -5
        Actually, the Russian Federation signed this agreement. I don’t know about the PRC. These bombs are poorly suited to destroy enemy armored vehicles, but they are ideal for bombing cities.
        1. VAF
          VAF 22 August 2013 18: 59 New
          +5
          Quote: 6Sunrise9
          These bombs are poorly suited to destroy enemy armored vehicles,


          Who told you such nonsense? belay



          Quote: 6Sunrise9
          but for the bombing of cities, they are ideal.


          And this excuse me is not stupidity, but .. stupidity !!! soldier
          1. 6 sunrise 9
            6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 20: 04 New
            -7
            Quote: vaf
            Who told you such nonsense?


            This is not my stupidity, it is tested by many local warriors. For example, Yugoslavia where only civilians suffered from these bombs, although the losses of the Armed Forces of Yugoslavia in armored vehicles were small. My usual cluster bomb is a bomb stuffed with 10 minutes of mines or a mini-bomb.

            Quote: vaf
            And this excuse me is not stupidity, but .. stupidity !!!


            Tell that to the Yugoslavs who still find these bombs.
            Again, against cities and especially civilians, this is an effective weapon.
            For example, in the war for Nagorno-Karabakh, the Air Force pilots of Azerbaijan did not drop cluster bombs on cities, and these were not easy bombs, they were stuffed with metal balls and nails.
            1. VAF
              VAF 22 August 2013 20: 20 New
              +4
              Quote: 6Sunrise9
              This is not my stupidity, it is tested by many local warriors.


              And in what wars did you personally participate in order to draw such "mind-blowing" conclusions?

              Quote: 6Sunrise9
              Again, against cities and especially civilians, this is an effective weapon.


              Something "practice" of using aerial bombs "shows" completely different results ... for example Hiroshima and Nagasaki .... and there, after all, one bomb was dropped in all.

              Quote: 6Sunrise9
              they were stuffed with metal balls, nails.


              Yeah, with screws, razors and broken glass. wassat

              Shliby you on another topic. Well ... well, in the sense didn’t go at all, and so .. on .. from aviation! soldier

              well, or, at worst .. take an interest, and not with the aplomb of a "windswept pilot" "ride here on .. ears" ... tea is not a kindergarten, although the first time you can and .. not make out! lol

        2. APASUS
          APASUS 22 August 2013 19: 33 New
          +3
          Quote: 6Sunrise9
          These bombs are poorly suited to destroy enemy armored vehicles, but they are ideal for bombing cities.

          You are probably very mistaken or confuse bombs.
          The CBU-97 is a cluster bomb equipped with Sensor Fuzed Weapon (SFW) charges. Each CBU-97 contains 10 BLU-108 / B submunitions, which have an infrared homing head and are designed to destroy armored vehicles in a poorly protected roof. Ammunition after opening the cartridge drops down on a parachute, searching for targets. After its detection, a rocket accelerator is launched and a tank or car is destroyed by a direct hit. According to Pentagon experts, one CBU-97 cartridge destroys armored objects in an area of ​​6 hectares.
          1. 6 sunrise 9
            6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 19: 58 New
            -4
            LOL, I thought space bombs are bombs equipped with mines and small bombs and other fragmentation materials. Covering a large area. By the way, unexploded ordnance is still "found" in Yugoslavia and "lost" legs and arms.

            And this is a precision missile.
            1. VAF
              VAF 22 August 2013 20: 05 New
              +4
              Quote: 6Sunrise9
              I thought cluster bombs are bombs equipped with mines and small bombs,


              And including all sorts of submunitions! And by the way PTAB burns through the tank, and you say .. not effective wassat not to mention in all auto vehicles. 9br armored vehicles and all kinds of bmp and rdm), well, and air defense systems in position, armament, missile defense systems, etc.

              Would be at the top smarter. then a pair was quite enough. so that no events of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX were like this! soldier

              1. 6 sunrise 9
                6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 20: 10 New
                +2
                I did not know about the existence of such bombs.
                1. VAF
                  VAF 22 August 2013 20: 25 New
                  +4
                  Quote: 6Sunrise9
                  I did not know about the existence of such bombs.


                  So why then "climb2 with such aplomb ..."The cluster bomb I am used to is a bomb filled with 10 mines or minibombs.". Yes, and aviation topics, yes + and even start to argue belay

                  After all, it is possible and ... "not to have time" to reach then .. lol , if you run into, and you ... "try ... to run into" lol
                  1. 6 sunrise 9
                    6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 20: 51 New
                    -3
                    Nuka enlighten me
                    Quote: vaf
                    And in what wars did you personally participate in order to draw such "mind-blowing" conclusions?


                    He did not participate in wars. But I know the people who fall under these bombs.


                    Quote: vaf
                    Yeah, with screws, razors and broken glass.


                    Why isn’t it? You asked what cluster bombs were in the beginning.

                    Quote: vaf
                    e.g. Hiroshima and Nagasaki


                    belay what


                    Quote: vaf
                    "A cluster bomb, which is familiar to me, is a bomb filled with 10 mines or minibombs." moreover, aviation topics, yes + more and start to argue


                    Do you argue with this - a cluster bomb - is it a bomb stuffed with 10 mins or a mini-bomb? Well then, educate me what a cluster bomb is and why does it have such a name? I’m not going to leave anywhere, including with aviation topics.
                    1. VAF
                      VAF 22 August 2013 21: 06 New
                      +3
                      Quote: 6Sunrise9
                      Nuka enlighten me


                      Already "harnessed" or something and .. trying to drive? Oh well wassat

                      Quote: 6Sunrise9
                      Why isn’t it? You asked what cluster bombs were in the beginning.


                      WHAT ... in the SHOULDER fool I have thrown so many of them in my life that I won’t be able to dream wassat

                      Quote: 6Sunrise9
                      what


                      The answer to your "bunch" about efficiency! So I gave you an example of Hiroshima and Nagasaki .. how many people died there you know?

                      Quote: 6Sunrise9
                      Do you argue with that


                      I do not argue with the "children's garden" and "Vicky in a hurry", I try ... not to go down lol

                      And I object "familiar to me", for whom is it ??? For you, who saw the plane only in the picture, and the bomb is alive .. actually .. the last time never? wassat

                      Quote: 6Sunrise9
                      and with aviation topics including.


                      Well ... god help and ... good luck wassat Just don’t say later that you didn’t warn lol
                      1. 6 sunrise 9
                        6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 21: 16 New
                        -2
                        Quote: vaf
                        Already "harnessed" or something and .. trying to drive? Oh well

                        и
                        Quote: vaf
                        WHAT ... in the SHOULDER I threw so many of them in my life that I won’t be able to dream ...

                        If you threw them what can you write what they are?

                        Quote: vaf
                        The answer to your "bunch" about efficiency! So I gave you an example of Hiroshima and Nagasaki .. how many people died there you know?


                        As far as I know, in Hiroshima and Nagasaki they used nuclear weapons, or is this in your opinion also a cluster bomb? wassat

                        Quote: vaf
                        I do not argue with the "children's garden" and "Vicky in a hurry", I try ... not to go down


                        Arguments 0? No, you disappoint me, I thought that a seasoned officer would enlighten me and why would he lower me somehow, and you ...

                        Although this question is what a cluster bomb is, I’m not asking about the name. They dragged them later what
                      2. VAF
                        VAF 22 August 2013 21: 50 New
                        +3
                        Quote: 6Sunrise9
                        и


                        Only from this "and" I understood that I was 20-23 years old. and education .. "two classes and ... a long corridor" and where -nibudt in the Urals?
                        There are all the "youth" ...... "frost ... struck" wassat

                        Quote: 6Sunrise9
                        can you write what they are?


                        What's the point? belay Eliminate illiteracy among the PEPSI generation ... not really ... alright .. or with Russian letters weakly and you are too lazy to look in the search engine .. RBC device?
                        Wake up pleasantly surprised .. there are much more of them .. than "10 bombs" wassat

                        Quote: 6Sunrise9
                        As far as I know, in Hiroshima and Nagasaki they used nuclear weapons, or is this in your opinion also a cluster bomb?


                        Well, of course ... education "odnkoass and..corilor", and I gave the 2nd grade from the generosity of sincere whole ... but I got hot lol

                        About Hirosis and Nagasaki, is this an answer to your next "bunch" that RBK is the most effective weapon in cities? wassat
                        Or are you already forgetting what you write and what are you talking about? write it down ... oh yes. excuse me. forgot .. one class only, so can you print only? wassat

                        Quote: 6Sunrise9
                        Arguments 0? No, you disappoint me, I thought that a seasoned officer would enlighten me and why would he lower me somehow, and you ...

                        Although this question is what a cluster bomb is, I’m not asking about the name. They dragged them later


                        Therefore, "pearl" has already been answered above - self-education is an excellent way of learning, for one thing and .. learn to read!

                        Once again I repeat ... Google to help and .. good luck wassat Well, the Urals are probably still not cold, so that their brains are frozen or ... there is nothing to freeze there? lol
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                      4. Reserve buildbat
                        Reserve buildbat 23 August 2013 12: 03 New
                        +3
                        Dear Vaf, I would ask you to refrain from derogatory epithets against the Urals and the inhabitants living in it. Rudeness we do not like. And the fact that you argue with an obviously illiterate person does not allow you to insult all the inhabitants of any region.
                        Sincerely.
                        hi
                  2. 6 sunrise 9
                    6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 21: 42 New
                    -1
                    I decided to google in the internet you never know I’m wrong and that's what I found.

                    A cluster bomb consists of a casing containing a large number of explosive striking elements. When using cluster munitions, the hull opens and the striking elements disperse over a large area, either exploding separately, or being used as anti-personnel mines.

                    Cassette aerial bombs are ambiguous weapons and cause much controversy. It is a cassette shell, which disintegrates in the air, scattering in the area of ​​the fall a large number of small bombs.
                    These various sized bombs (also called striking elements of cluster munitions) can be used to strike various targets, from armored vehicles to manpower, and also serve as incendiary bombs.

                    Cluster bombs have a very wide area of ​​destruction, but they do not have accurate means of targeting. When dropped from medium to high altitude, cluster bombs may deviate from the intended target.

                    The failure rate of cluster bombs is quite large - approximately 5%. In other words, they may not break immediately, but, like mines, remain in the ground, retaining their detonation ability for several years. It is reported that thousands of such bombs remain in Kosovo after the NATO bombing.

                    Cluster bomb - a bomb containing from 3 to 200 bombs, which are scattered before an explosion in the air and have a high destructive effect against enemy manpower.
                    A cassette bomb is a projectile, which, bursting, scatters numerous anti-personnel mines around itself for a long distance.

                    Or the simplest statement

                    These are bombs that still have many bombs in their bodies. Many smaller bombs pop out of one bomb and as a result a huge area is hit with one bomb. But they look different.

                    So answer either you are wrong or 5 people and I are liars.
                  3. VAF
                    VAF 22 August 2013 22: 01 New
                    +1
                    Quote: 6Sunrise9
                    I decided to google in the internet you never know I’m wrong and that's what I found.


                    Well, okay... wassat this is probably from the site Dom-2 or give .. youth ??? wassat

                    God, how is everything .. "running":

                    The modern version of domestic cluster-type ABs is commonly called single-bomb bombs (RBC), made in the dimensions of high-explosive batteries with a caliber of 100 to 500 kg and having a thin-walled case, in the sections of which submunitions are located - small-caliber bombs.
                    In the head part of the RBC, a knock-out powder charge and a remote-action fuse are set, which works after a predetermined time after the bomb is dropped and ignites the knock-out charge. Under the pressure of the powder gases, the hull is divided into two parts and the submunitions are pushed out, which, under the influence of aerodynamic drag forces, are dispersed over a certain area - the coverage area. The coverage area depends on both the height at which the cassette opens and the speed of the RBC at the time of opening.
                    Here are some technical characteristics of several typical RBCs. RBC-250 AO-I has a total length of 2120 mm, case diameter - 325 mm and a total weight - 273 kg. The cartridge contains 150 fragmentation warheads AO-1, ​​the mass of each of which is 1 kg. The maximum lesion area of ​​this RBC is 4800 m2.
                    The full length of RBC-500 SHOAB-0.5 is 1500 mm, the diameter of the case is 450 mm
                    and gross weight is 334 kg. It holds 565 spherical fragmentation warheads of the ShOAB-0.5 spherical shape (Fig. 3.129). The case 1 of the element, made of aluminum alloy, contains steel GGE. The oblique tides 5 on the body ensure that the BE rotates along the trajectory, stabilizing its flight and orientation when it hits the surface, which is necessary for reliable operation of the fuse 3. The SHOAB-0.5 combat elements are especially effective when acting on manpower.
                    The area of ​​destruction of ground targets of one RBC-500 SHOAB-0.5 reaches 50 m000.

                    Quote: 6Sunrise9
                    So answer either you are wrong or 5 people and I are liars.


                    So what should I answer you? belay What are you STUPID as a cork? so this is understandable, but who else are these 5 people whom you .. "drag"?

                    Or you zyali how the shash dialogue and your "vyser" began?
                  4. 6 sunrise 9
                    6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 22: 14 New
                    -3
                    After all that you wrote I have a question, what for did you argue ???? Himself about SHOAB-0.5 said, it's minibombs !!! 565 fragmentation warheads, i.e. a mini-bomb ???? Not only that - it is a ball fragmentation bomb, it does not penetrate armored vehicles, it is designed to destroy enemy manpower.

                    Quote: vaf
                    These bombs are poorly suited to destroy enemy armored vehicles, but they are ideal for bombing cities


                    And you imagine that from a height of 400 meters 500-600 mini-bombs fell on the city !!! Or do you think it's nothing?

                    You have confirmed my words with your answer, so which of us is a stupid person?
                  5. VAF
                    VAF 22 August 2013 22: 29 New
                    +1
                    Quote: 6Sunrise9
                    After all that you wrote I have a question, what for did you argue ???? Himself about SHOAB-0.5 said, it's minibombs !!! 565 fragmentation warheads, i.e. a mini-bomb ???? Not only that - it is a ball fragmentation bomb, it does not penetrate armored vehicles, it is designed to destroy enemy manpower.


                    It’s clear that you turn on the fool. it’s a shame to admit stupidity, but not to the same extent!

                    Read your "bunches" above !!!! am

                    For not very smart, I’ll highlight what would catch my eye ....

                    RBK-500 / SHOAB-0,5M - a one-time bomb cartridge with fragmentation bombs

                    The cartridge, equipped with avibombs, is designed to defeat manpower and light armored vehicles, dispersed in open terrain and on the march.

                    Where are you m .. you saw the city here ???? am Or do you have any dugout in the Urals already..city? lol



                    The cartridge provides combat use from altitudes of 500-1000 m at a flight speed of 700-1100 km / h and from altitudes of 12000-20000 m at a flight speed of 2300 km / h. The minimum opening height of the cartridge is 300 m, the optimal 300-400 m.

                    Quote: 6Sunrise9
                    And you imagine that from a height of 400 meters 500-600 mini-bombs fell on the city !!! Or do you think it's nothing?


                    And the point is that they will fall on concrete in the city? And around the same concrete from buildings?
                    And where will these balls fly?



                    Generally son ... go ... forest. communicate with you. It’s all the same ... that one thing is stupid! fool

                  6. 6 sunrise 9
                    6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 22: 37 New
                    -4
                    it is equipped with ball fragmentation bombs, the very name fragmentation speaks for itself what kind of armored vehicles can she ditch ??? Maximum UAZ or KAMAZ!
                  7. 6 sunrise 9
                    6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 22: 45 New
                    -3
                    Uh, I don’t know how to say ..... 2 photo is ShOAB-0.5 yes ... but only this is an unexploded shell hi .

                    You see, the main action of the ShOAB is fragments of the case ... and the case is whole.
                  8. VAF
                    VAF 22 August 2013 23: 06 New
                    +4
                    Quote: 6Sunrise9
                    You see, the main action of the ShOAB is fragments of the case ... and the case is whole.


                    Well, when a boy born in 1995 turns to his grandfather born in 1952 .... yeah, this is "panic" wassat

                    I thought you understood everything, but no .. it turns out "eggs are trying to teach chicken" wassat

                    So you "panim" what you are talking about, it refers to fragmentation submunitions, and then inside it still has a few damaging elements, except RDX (in the photo it is marked in yellow).



                    But in the SHOAB (I won’t look for a photo), the entire hollow space is filled with hexogen. And in it are BULBS (380 + -5 pcs), and they are then the DAMAGING ELEMENT when the bomb is removed against obstacles or if the fuse is detonated and triggered!
                  9. 6 sunrise 9
                    6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 23: 44 New
                    -2
                    So...
                    Quote: vaf
                    But in the SHOAB (I won’t look for a photo), the entire hollow space is filled with hexogen. And in it are BULBS (380 + -5 pcs), and they are then the DAMAGING ELEMENT when the bomb is removed against obstacles or if the fuse is detonated and triggered!

                    belay belay belay belay belay Did I argue? Did I argue about this at all? I immediately said about the composition of the balls, you still answered me that

                    Quote: vaf
                    Yeah, with screws, razors and broken glass.

                    Well, what can you say recourse

                    Although I think that's enough, I'm tired of this conversation. (I already know that now write about "enough")
        3. VAF
          VAF 22 August 2013 22: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: 6Sunrise9
          So answer


          I will add a little, and then again .. "somewhere" you will climb ... not there, although what to take from you ... one before your eyes ....... and not a fig anymore! wassat


          In addition to one-time bomb cartridges, the small-sized cargo containers (KMGU) designed for the combat use of small arms and anti-aircraft mines without a suspension system can also be classified as a cluster type of aviation BP.
          Bombs and mines are previously placed in special BKF units (container unit for front-line aviation), which are then installed in the container compartments.
          KMGU container contains from eight blocks (depending on caliber) soldier
        4. 6 sunrise 9
          6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 22: 19 New
          -1
          Quote: vaf
          In addition to one-time bomb cartridges, the small-sized cargo containers (KMGU) designed for the combat use of small arms and anti-aircraft mines without a suspension system can also be classified as a cluster type of aviation BP. Bombs and mines are previously placed in special BKF units (container unit for front-line aviation), which are then installed in the container compartments. KMGU container contains from eight blocks (depending on caliber)


          "rukalitso" I wrote this for?

          Quote: 6Sunrise9
          thought cluster bombs are bombs equipped with mines and small bombs
        5. 6 sunrise 9
          6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 22: 28 New
          -3
          Quote: vaf
          they were filled with metal balls, nails


          I want to tell you that - SHOAB-0.5 is a ball fragmentation bomb, I will write again - SHOAB-0.5 is a BALL fragmentation bomb, understood by name or explain?
      2. solomon
        solomon 23 August 2013 11: 22 New
        +3
        Dear Sergey (vaf), I have not read your entire discussion with the 6th-9th, but let me advise you. As a tip, I’ll quote 6th sunrise9-a:
        6rise 9 RU Yesterday, 16:52 | US Secretary of State on the death of the USSR: "The main thing, there were traitors"

        Article especially do not read read only the first paragraph.
        .
        This country, I Do not know personally and never in her undeadI was born in 1995.

        He is 17-18 years old and ...
  • VAF
    VAF 22 August 2013 19: 05 New
    +4
    Quote: Russ69
    It’s forbidden, it’s forbidden, but we didn’t sign either


    Absolutely, +! soldier

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  • sub307
    sub307 22 August 2013 19: 35 New
    +2
    At least I got the answer to my question. Recently I went to the museum of artillery, etc., so I "studied" domestic cluster munitions there in rocket design, I did not see bombs there. I learned that we don't seem to lag behind in this direction.
    1. bask
      bask 22 August 2013 21: 41 New
      +1
      to the yankers themselves, they tie the Saudis into scrap.
      Saudi Air Force to get 1300 cluster bombs
      .
      For what purposes do the hobbits buy am Looks like a war gathered on Iran. The militants in Syria, they are still unnecessary.
      But it wouldn’t hurt us, it will supply the Syrian aviation with a hundred, another. For good, common cause. Fighting the world’s beast.
  • faraon
    faraon 22 August 2013 17: 59 New
    +2
    it is worth considering why the Saudis buy these ammunition and all the bombs to them, do the states really provide the 2 option, that is, to finish off Syria with the help of the Saudis.
    There is something for the Russian government to think about. Until it’s too late for what the richest oil country (Saudi Arabia) has such weapons. If the guarantor has security and stability in the US region
    1. 6 sunrise 9
      6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 18: 09 New
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      If there is direct Saudi intervention in Syria, Iran will immediately show Kuskin’s mother, blocking the supply of oil and gas from Saud. Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE by sea.
      In short vryatli, even the United States bombing Syria now is weak .. there will be big losses, both financial and human. In Syria there is not only S-300, there is PantsirS1 as well as many Soviet-made air defense systems.
    2. andrei332809
      andrei332809 22 August 2013 18: 15 New
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      Quote: faraon
      it is worth considering why the Saudis buy these ammunition and all the bombs to them, do the states really provide the 2 option, that is, to finish off Syria with the help of the Saudis.

      the same thought flashed. but then, in order to keep their subjects in check, they will take over another enemy - for Israel
      1. 6 sunrise 9
        6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 18: 20 New
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        Hahha Israel? What are you, Israel is the best friend of the Saudis !!! Never Saud. Arabia did not drive the barrel into Israel, much less never entered into a military conflict with it. And remember, in the USA, the Jewish lobby is driving, trampling on Israel = attacking the USA.
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 22 August 2013 19: 05 New
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          Well, actually it’s in the style of the United States to surrender its allies and best friends, the B. East project is closing. America is leaving for another region and the value of Israel as an ally is clearly overrated by you.
    3. yanus
      yanus 22 August 2013 18: 26 New
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      Quote: faraon
      it is worth considering why the Saudis buy these ammunition and all the bombs to them, do the states really provide the 2 option, that is, to finish off Syria with the help of the Saudis.

      Have you ever seen the delivery dates in the article? By this time in Syria, either everything will calm down or it will already be bombed.
    4. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 22 August 2013 19: 03 New
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      Maybe against Israel? hi It is enough to push Israel and Arabia, so to speak, the last two hotbeds of tranquility in the region and everything can go away. Chaos will last a very long time.
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 22 August 2013 20: 15 New
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        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        push Israel and Arabia, so to speak, the last two hotbeds of tranquility in the region and everything can go Chaos will last a very long time.


        I doubt it. I think the Saudi army against Israel will stand a maximum of a couple of days. After which the sheikhs will run to Tel Aviv to pay off, as they used to do all their lives.
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 22 August 2013 22: 09 New
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          If they run it only in the USA to pre-bought places, at worst to England or Europe, the Saudi army is an army of Wahhabis and Emirates, they even have a BRSD, and nobody knows about the stuffing, modern turntables, tanks, anti-tank guns, oh, I don’t think it will be easy, the Jews are surrounded and without the support of the United States the Arabians will not fail, sins against the rest of the Arabs will not be given.
          But US presidents love to pry themselves with both those and others, here, as I understand it, the question will be the dough, but Arabs are more profitable.
  • 6 sunrise 9
    6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 18: 00 New
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    Well, in the best traditions of the United States, they sell cluster bombs to the most autocratic regime on the planet. It is likely that the Saudis would support the intervention in Iran or support the Sunnis in Iraq, in the event of a civil war there.
    By the way, after all, like cluster bombs are prohibited by the UN, oh yes I recall Yugoslavia ... no law has any effect on Amers and their allies.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 August 2013 18: 05 New
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    The Saudis are arming heavily .. they feel that they smell fried .. They played in the Middle East .. The United States has enough internal problems. And the provocation in Syria with chemical weapons is their work (rude and vile) .. Banned bombs are bought ... they’re sorry me them ..
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 22 August 2013 19: 08 New
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      Pity is a bad feeling, and especially to them.
  • yanus
    yanus 22 August 2013 18: 29 New
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    The deal is nearly $ 30 billion. Given the worldview of the Saudis, I am not surprised that this is a kind of bribe to the Americans. True question - for what?
    1. 6 sunrise 9
      6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 18: 33 New
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      30bn for Saud. Arabia is the world's largest oil supplier, Kapeyki.
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    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 22 August 2013 20: 19 New
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      Quote: vitas
      ............ 1

      You did not confuse sites?
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        1. Apollo
          Apollo 22 August 2013 20: 34 New
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          Quote: vitas
          !!!!!!!



          I warn you you will be banned.
      2. il grand casino
        il grand casino 22 August 2013 20: 31 New
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        Quote: Ruslan67
        Quote: vitas
        ........... 1

        You did not confuse sites?


        No ... well, of course it is off topic on the one hand ... but on the other ... there are many things so wonderful in the world like boobs winked
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 22 August 2013 20: 55 New
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          Quote: il grand casino
          after all, there are no such wonderful things in the world as boobs

          A separate branch on the site dedicated exclusively to boobs and I'm the first to hang on it repeat fellow The amateur himself to flood especially under a glass BUT everything should be a measure hi
  • Yugra
    Yugra 22 August 2013 21: 00 New
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    The Saudis are the first people who want chaos and death in Syria. Do they get such bombs from the Americans? Well, let's put something worse in Syria, without regard to the cries of the Americans ...
  • smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 22 August 2013 21: 53 New
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    Well, what are the Saudis laughing at? They have powerful enough aviation; they do not spare money on it:
    ordered 84 F-15SA Strike Eagle, fighter-bomber version F-15E, optimized for attacking ground targets, it seems that they are bought by the above cluster bombs.
    In the ranks:
    83 fighter-interceptor F-15 Eagle (65 modifications C, 18 combat training double modification D);
    70 F-15S Strike Eagle fighter-bombers, 68 of which are planned to be upgraded to the F-15SA version
    87 Panavia Tornado IDS fighter-bombers (10 in reserve) Delivered in 1989-1998.
    24 Panavia Tornado ADV interceptor fighter.
    24 Eurofighter Typhoon multirole fighters, 72 total ordered, designed to replace obsolete American Northrop F-5 Freedom Fighter II
    23 Northrop F-5 Freedom Fighter II (22 E modifications, 1 combat training F modification). A total of 70 F-120s were purchased in the 5s (83 modifications E, 37 in the combat training modification F), one was shot down by Iraqi air defense systems during Desert Storm. Currently, 53 fighters are in reserve.
    Total: 311 modern combat aircraft, plus another 132 are planned
    In addition to all this splendor (without the slightest irony), the Saudi Arabian Air Force has 5 E-3 Sentry AWACS aircraft, plus 10 more have been ordered. Such a modern fleet can be envied by the air forces of such developed countries as Great Britain and France. The main rival of Saudi Arabia in the region of Iran has about 190 combat aircraft, of which more or less modern 120 units (F-14 Tomcat, MiG-29, Su-24, Su-25 and Iranian "homemade")
    For training, 29 BAe Hawk Mk training aircraft are used. 65 and Mk. 65A, which can be used as light attack aircraft, ordered 22 Hawk AJT, expected to be delivered in 2016 and 48 Swiss turboprops Pilatus PC-9.
    The Army Aviation has 12 AH-64D Apache attack helicopters, and another 29 AH-64D Longbow III are ordered.
    The American press noted rather decent training for Saudi pilots. So, for example, on January 19, 1991, Saudi Arabian Air Force captain Aikhid Salah el-Shamrani managed to shoot down two Iraqi Mirage F.15FQs on the F-1. All the details of this battle are not known for certain, but according to American data, the Saudi pilot was pointed at two Iraqi aircraft that tried to attack coalition craft in the Persian Gulf. Yours faithfully! hi
    F-15C "605" from the 13th Air Force of the Saudi Arabian Air Force, pilot - Salah, ab Dhahran, late 1990
  • smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 22 August 2013 22: 05 New
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    Some photos of the Saudi Air Force:
    F-15S Strike Eagle

    Eurofighter Typhoon

    Panavia Tornado IDS

    Panavia Tornado ADV

    F-5 Freedom Fighter II
  • Siberian
    Siberian 22 August 2013 22: 41 New
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    not funny - against whom they are going to use this is the trick

    Well, like Syria, Iran is nearby. Not in the desert is SAHARA, especially since it is much further away, and on the other continent. And in such a quantity, it is obvious to kill many people, and moreover, civilians die from such bombs, and a lot. Only they do not care.
    1. Windbreak
      Windbreak 22 August 2013 22: 59 New
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      Articles useful to read to the end
      The UAB CBU-105 contains 10 BLU-108 / B submunitions, each of which includes four striking elements of a precise SKEET aiming at about 3 kg, equipped with IR GOS and intended for attacking armored vehicles to a weakly protected roof.
  • Yuri11076
    Yuri11076 23 August 2013 00: 53 New
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    Quote: denson06
    And this (read - the USA) - the "first" in the world HUMANISTS and Democrats .. these are the ones from whom all of Europe takes an "example" .. they produce the most real weapon of the Aggressors ..

    M u d and to and they and not HUMANISTS and democrats !!!
  • individual
    individual 23 August 2013 07: 23 New
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    Trade from under the floor, otherwise you can’t call a deal on cassette aerial bombs of the USA and Saudi Arabia when they are banned in the world like barbaric weapons:
    Cluster bomb failure is quite high - approximately 5%. In other words, they may not burst immediately, but, like mines, remain lying in the ground, preserving detonation ability for several years.
    After the bombing of which for a long time civilians die.
    The United States does not threaten this, since bombs do not fall on their territory, and the rest of the world is a landfill.
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 23 August 2013 07: 58 New
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    Dear, doesn’t it seem to you that someone deliberately leads us all away from the main point of the article: but for what and against whom are the Saudis buying these weapons? That's what you need to talk about, and not argue about the performance characteristics of weapons!
  • SERGUNCHOs
    SERGUNCHOs 22 January 2016 11: 38 New
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    the cost of one cluster bomb is 492,912 thousand dollars, which is something expensive for a conventional cluster bomb. 39852000 can be transferred to our wooden ones, it’s already nuclear that can be assembled). On the face of obvious money laundering, the devil knows for what, well, as in the case of the F-35. We are waiting for hand grenades made of platinum with diamonds.