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Trend news: everything is bad again in Russia ...

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Trend news: everything is bad again in Russia ...The information space of our country has undergone a strange metamorphosis. If in Soviet times news programs on TV, radio and major print media cheerfully reported on the achievements of the livestock industry, space exploration and the friendship of peoples, forcing viewers (listeners, readers) to catch themselves thinking that “they are not telling us something,” today everything looks like a wrong side up. Negatively colored materials literally occupied numerous media so that every day we hear about how poorly Russian gays and lesbians live, how “evil” Assad poisons his citizens with chemical weaponshow Russian athletes will fail at the Sochi Olympics, and how much money Berezovsky, Polonsky and Borodin stole from their compatriots, as our army is weak compared to the Chinese or American. The movement towards the golden mean — the coverage of events of a different nature and from different angles — is still by many media either consciously ignored or confused in some thorns that appear in the way.


Turning on almost any news release today we can draw something like the following conclusion: the whole of Russia will soon be completely flooded, and the part that big water does not touch will absorb the fires, but this will happen only after all crops are eaten by locusts, all fruits and vegetables - moth, all forests will be put under the root of “black” lumberjacks, selling wood to China or Finland, and after Churov arranges a global ballot box stuffing in the next election ... As the saying goes: “Where are you, brothers? ..”

But in recent years, a whole social stratum has emerged, which the thought that “you must certainly run somewhere” exaggerates with terrible force and without this thought, fueled by negative information, cannot literally live. A big oddity is that representatives of this stratum are trying to obstruct any positive attitude concerning Russian reality. Someone will immediately say: wow! we in Russia also have a positive! Come on!

Offhand - a few real-life news and possible comments on them from people who are trying to find an indispensable negative in any information:

Competition for service in the first Russian "scientific" company is 3 person in place.

Of course ... competition! After all, the children of officials want to get a military ID, sitting at the computers, and that's the 3 person for one bed ... Next will be even more ...

St. Petersburg students ranked first in the international programming championship.

Yeah, they took ... And what else do they have to do, no matter how they program. They do not read books, they all play shooters - that’s what they won. You have to do business, business!

Archival documents will appear in Russia in the public domain.

Wait, wait ... In the open, schazzzz. This is who we will open documents about the Ukrainian Gladomor or the shooting of the Poles in Katyn ... Putin will definitely not go for it.

In Russia, scientists have created effective camouflage radar absorbing coatings that can be used in aviation and navy.

Yes, what they "created" there. The Americans, I suppose, was stolen, and Snowden with Assange and Manning helped. Our hands are not growing from that place.

In general, the list of examples can be continued further, but I think the general meaning is clear. Moreover, in the first place, the tendency is clear that if the media offers negative information about today's life in the country, then it goes, as they say, with a bang. At the same time, no one is going to analyze the messages, check the sources, verify with other media. But as soon as the positive news passes through the press, the Internet or on the television screen, they simply clutch their teeth. Moreover, those who cling to anything can not come to terms with the situation, that there can be a positive in Russia.

No one in this case calls for the Russian media to go down to only “marmalade-chocolate” publications. Not at all. Just the situation when the negative is replicated faster and more massively than insects breed, and even without trying to check the objectivity of information, raises certain questions.

Asking one of these questions - the question of where, from some representatives of modern society, is such a pathological passion for information with a clear negative connotation, you come to the conclusion that people just fell into the trend. This trend began to form immediately after the collapse of the USSR. The country that was plunged into chaos and forced to rejoice in worn jeans and the appearance of a “restaurant” of fast food somehow forgotten how to believe in themselves. People who continued to practice such faith became, if not social outcasts, then some kind of holy fools in the representation of other people. Believing in yourself has become somehow unfashionable. Another thing is to believe in an overseas uncle, who will come and bestow a trench on everyone so that the wind of change will not finally tear us away from the soil under our feet. And since the belief in “uncle” extended to all the new representatives of Russian society, then the first successes of the new country were perceived as something semi-fantastic and, on the whole, incredible. “There can be no success in this country”, - this is how we were taught by clever people from TV screens, showing pictures of how “real people” live there. A substantial percentage of the Russian population continues to believe today that “there” is everything, and here it is nothing, and if there is “something”, then nothing but fairy tales of the authorities. This leads to the fact that a certain circle of mass media needs to support the designated idea and cultivate new and new adherents of Russian negativism. After all, it is not only fashionable, but also profitable. And the profit for the consumer society that we have been transformed into (or we have transformed ourselves) is in the first place.

Altering the well-known proverb, one could say this: today on the Internet about the positive news in Russia is either bad or nothing ... But the Russian Internet is many-sided, and therefore, by the same voice, thank God, it does not work. The alarmist media faced the emergence of a self-opposition, which makes it clear, including through its own audience, that the hackneyed record “is all gone! life is shit! ”the tracks are pretty much stuck, and the emerging hissing and distortion are interesting to an ever smaller population.
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  1. optimist
    optimist 23 August 2013 08: 11 New
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    And the truth, as always, somewhere in the middle ... It all depends on what angle to look at any event.
    1. krasin
      krasin 23 August 2013 08: 47 New
      +8
      everything is lost! a life -

      Again, we’re not going there ???? Not again, but again!
      1. afire
        afire 23 August 2013 09: 08 New
        +6
        sorry for offtop
        The Kolomna Kremlin at http://10russia.ru/object_61 closed the gap since yesterday.
        We need to push it, we vote 3 times from each observer, if from the opera, then mozilla, then from the explorer to vote, then we get 9 votes from each person!
        Profanation? no - fight
        1. Refund_SSSR
          Refund_SSSR 23 August 2013 09: 23 New
          -4
          Quote: afire
          Profanation? no - fight

          Minus held! am laughing Bortsun damn ... What are your honest choices? DO NOT DESERVE !!
          Bulk to you as a wife laughing
          People, you really don’t understand that this very little thing, somewhere deeply, in the mentality of a Russian person, is the very corruption and craving for a freebie at all costs, from which you also groan?
          1. LaGlobal
            LaGlobal 23 August 2013 09: 36 New
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            somehow forgot how to believe in yourself. People who continued to profess this faith became, if not social outcasts, then some kind of holy fool in the minds of other people.


            - now I enter this company of people! At work, that general, that colleagues ... In a word, for them everything is dicky, it is necessary to "pour from a rash." This is very, of course, spread rot for me = (But you need to work!

            For every time a question arises about politics, about life, about Comrade Putin, passions run high.
            1. Apologet.Ru
              Apologet.Ru 23 August 2013 11: 55 New
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              hi
              I repeat, but ... You know, colleagues, I somehow came across an answer to the eternal "groans" that you can always hear from the ever-dissatisfied and calling to leave for other "rich, free and democratic" countries. And although the authorship of these lines is attributed to many people, this answer to me, like no other, to my liking -
              I probably live in another country.
              They live among the bestial grin of corruption and sadistic cops. And I already forgot when I gave the traffic cop on my paw, and, to be honest, I don’t remember when I had to oil someone at all. And my good friend works in the police.
              Their education is ruined, and teachers give grades for bribes and torment children. And my daughter goes to the same school where I studied, where almost a third of the teachers are still those who taught me and her knowledge is deeper than what I had at her age.
              They have no freedom in the country. And I look in my passport and I think that there may not be enough sheets. Print nowhere to put.
              They have killer doctors and ruined medicine in their country. And in my Russia, on the new (then) 2012 year, five minutes before the chimes, the mother had an attack, the ambulance arrived in 12 minutes. Pulled out. Two weeks of the hospital and pah-pah-pah. We live normally. Everything is free. And I wore cakes for doctors. Is this corruption? And I have gratitude. Just from the heart.
              In their "this country" the bloody regime gobbled up all orphans. In my country, it has finally officially been banned from trading in export by Russian citizens.
              They have total censorship and lack of freedom of speech in “this country”. And I constantly read criticism of the state in opposition articles.
              They have rampant drunkenness and drug addiction in “this country”. And I go to a sports club, one of the very, very many in the district, and around me are sober people of all generations from morning to evening every day.
              In their country, pensioners are scavenging. And in my country, my father, in his 72 year (long years of his life), goes to his non-credit cottage at his non-credit Ford focus 2.
              In their country, only a thief official and an oil thief live well. And I am an engineer in an engineering position, I have nothing to do with purchases, nor with sales, nor with laws, nor with permissions. Father is a teacher of the lyceum, mother is a doctor. Not oligarchs either.
              There are enough problems in my country. There are enough villains and gouging, and the second is much, much more. But the vast majority, just good, normal people. They live in "this country", the mob, scoundrels and thieves.
              You know, I would (forgive my naval bluntness) do not give a shit about how they live in "this country", but their stubborn Caudle is constantly trying to remake me and my loved ones, and all of Russia under "this country". Moreover, they squeal that they will leave, but the vast majority of them do not hand over their passport, and crap and crap where they live.
              Go to hell! Nothing really shines for you here! This is not your country. This is Russia.
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 23 August 2013 12: 53 New
                +1
                Quote: Apologet.Ru
                And I look in my passport and I think that there may not be enough sheets.


                It’s good when the dough is in order,

                Quote: Apologet.Ru
                There are enough villains and gouging, and the second is much, much more.


                And there will be even more, not everyone as you have the opportunity of paid tuition, here the USE will help them to become gouges

                Although what I argue about if you are other people's fiction and some homosexual issue as your own thoughts


                1. prophet190
                  prophet190 23 August 2013 16: 48 New
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                  My mother is an Engineer, and Dad at a construction site in Tynda works as a turner at -30 degrees. So what? Twice in Europe were (Barcelona, ​​southern Spain), before that the south of China. Right now they’re still going. So do not dear blizzard weave.
                  1. 31231
                    31231 23 August 2013 21: 12 New
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                    Doesn't a turner work in a heated lathe ?! Or am I throwing some other turners with a koly ?! I’m trying to strain my memory where they are building something in Tynda. Could you tell?! Or maybe not a city, but a region around Tynda ?!
                    1. Vadivak
                      Vadivak 23 August 2013 23: 40 New
                      +5
                      Quote: 31231
                      Doesn't a turner work in a heated turner?


                      Yes, somehow awkward. But they are building

                      On September 18, 2012, for the first time in several years in the city, an apartment building was commissioned, the construction of which began in the early 00s, but was suspended. In 2011, construction again resumed and after a year, 55 families received apartments

                      In the capital of the Baikal-Amur Mainline, the Taezhniy microdistrict is being built to relocate residents from barracks. So, about 244 people will additionally arrive to 35 workers of the Bureyagesstroy company during the week,
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                3. Apologet.Ru
                  Apologet.Ru 23 August 2013 17: 21 New
                  +8
                  hi
                  Eka, you are a colleague Vadivak, sausage is not childish, from the success of other people.
                  But not everyone can be like you, even if you really want to, humble yourself.
                  And if not, then maybe you should reconsider your life attitudes and start building your life more successful. Not?
                  And start with the fact that stop misinterpreting what has been read before the “eyes of an honest people,” I wrote clearly, and even highlighted it with color (although not all colleagues like it repeat ) - “And although the authorship of these lines is attributed to many people, this answer to me, like no other, I like”, and you say something completely different - “If you give other people’s inventions some homosexual as your own thoughts”.
                  With such an attitude towards people, all the more unfamiliar, I agree that being successful is problematic.
                  And why are you so sure that I “ripped off” the post exactly where you indicate the author of these lines “homosexual”?
                  Are you clairvoyant?
                  So you have chosen the wrong profession - you need on the show, on the "Battle of psychics."
                  Please accept my sincere wishes for success, even if you have never seen me and are unlikely to see me ...
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                    1. Donvel
                      Donvel 23 August 2013 20: 19 New
                      +1
                      About the opus "about how to live well in Rasea" from Apologet.ru

                      Bribes were taken as they are taken, and bribery among traffic cops is the most harmless. The police work personnel who were not even taught greetings. Teachers of the old school work in schools because working in a school is not interesting and unprofitable for young people. My former class teacher was recently visited by her long-time graduate, who now works in America (yes) and has a scientific degree, an oncologist, and he told me that they are pulling out patients who are immediately put on the cross. My addiction is thriving outside the window - every day someone comes under the bushes. Freedom of speech is also a dubious thing - even on this site people are banned for disagreeing with the “rainbow picture” of the world, and there’s nothing to say about the restriction of the Internet. This is our country. It's Russia.
                      1. poquello
                        poquello 23 August 2013 22: 55 New
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                        Quote: DonVel

                        Freedom of speech is also a dubious thing - even on this site people are banned for disagreeing with the “rainbow picture” of the world, and there’s nothing to say about the restriction of the Internet. This is our country. It's Russia.

                        We are banned - in the USA they are banned.
                      2. Donvel
                        Donvel 23 August 2013 23: 18 New
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                        So we also "eat". Those who do not just howl in the forums.
                      3. poquello
                        poquello 24 August 2013 00: 44 New
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                        Quote: DonVel
                        So we also "eat". Those who do not just howl in the forums.

                        And in the USA, those who are simply on the forums are being devoured, calls on the network to eliminate the power of a year by 3 pull.
                    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
                      SASCHAmIXEEW 27 August 2013 11: 53 New
                      +1
                      I wonder who banyat? Who is for RUSSIA or who is for the Jewsionists? If Russians are fooled, then everything is clear who is in power on the site ...
                  2. Tverichanka
                    Tverichanka 24 August 2013 00: 09 New
                    +3
                    Quote: DonVel
                    This is our country. It's Russia.

                    Has someone restricted your freedom to speak out? ... I haven’t ever done anything anywhere (I don’t use foul language) ..... And if you feel so bad here that you’re holding something? No restrictions on traveling anywhere in the world exists. They would have found a place where everything is in chocolate.
                  3. SASCHAmIXEEW
                    SASCHAmIXEEW 27 August 2013 12: 07 New
                    +2
                    Well, I completely agree with this, I think they are being kept by money that they don’t respect anywhere by their meager stupidity !!!!! And we have thieves who have adopted laws and are flourishing ... No one will name a single oligarch- Hebrewsionist native of RUSSIA !!!! Name at least one expat with Brighton Beach, who became a billionaire ???????? And we have their sea and all the "God-chosen" !!! Fine??? IN RUSSIA.....!!!
                4. iSpoiler
                  iSpoiler 25 August 2013 07: 51 New
                  +1
                  I don’t know what kind of pumps you live in, we don’t have this in Kamchatka. At least such a blatant mess like yours .. I can conclude that you all do not care how you live. Complaints are inappropriate. IMHO damn it ..
                5. SASCHAmIXEEW
                  SASCHAmIXEEW 27 August 2013 11: 48 New
                  +1
                  What a lie, something right! But I want to note (I live in Pushkin, St. Petersburg) over the past couple of years, the syringes have disappeared, pah, pah ... maybe something else came up! And life didn’t seem to get worse (I’m a pensioner), we’ll see what will happen next, but for the most part, I think they began to live better, but they “moaned” and always moaned about everything ... It’s in the blood us...!!!
            2. Vadivak
              Vadivak 23 August 2013 18: 47 New
              +1
              Quote: Apologet.Ru
              ka, you are a colleague of Vadivak,


              What makes you think that I am your colleague? What did we serve together?

              Quote: Apologet.Ru
              And why are you so sure that I “ripped off” the post exactly where you indicate the author of these lines “homosexual”?

              sure spelled with one n. Improve your educational level. As for the homosexual, you first read where such miscarriages are published, then pass them off as your thoughts
              Quote: Apologet.Ru
              Please accept my sincere wishes for success, even if you have never seen me and are unlikely to see me ...

              I really hope so is more beneficial for your health
              1. Apologet.Ru
                Apologet.Ru 23 August 2013 19: 20 New
                +9
                Vadivak

                Eka criticism hurt you, you do not love her, however, it is not for you. But why are you participating in the discussions so that everyone will hear your inexorable opinion? Are you sure that it will be interesting to someone?
                And colleagues I respectfully call the people I communicate with in this forum, if this is unpleasant for you, it’s not a question.
                When there is nothing constructive to say about criticism, then it remains to find a grammatical error in the opponent’s words, well, before making such comments you yourself would have bothered to deal with punctuation marks in your comments.
                And unlike you, for lack of time, I do not delve around the internet, especially where information that is not acceptable to me is published.
                Well, as for the wishes, if you do not need a kind word, then ...
                1. Vadivak
                  Vadivak 23 August 2013 19: 35 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Apologet.Ru
                  And colleagues I respectfully call the people I communicate with in this forum, if this is unpleasant for you, it’s not a question.


                  Of course it’s unpleasant. Read the dictionary. Colleague - Fellow for study or work. What friend are you to me? So I flew ....
                2. Apologet.Ru
                  Apologet.Ru 23 August 2013 19: 50 New
                  +1
                  Meaning of the word colleague
                  New explanatory dictionary of the Russian language. Author TF Efremova.
                  colleague M. and f. 1) A person of the same profession, fellow at work or study in high school. 2) Cons. as an appeal.

                  What friend are you to me?
                  So I flew ....

                  No comments
                3. Vadivak
                  Vadivak 23 August 2013 20: 18 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Apologet.Ru
                  Oleg M. and. 1) A person of the same profession, fellow at work or study in high school. 2) Use. as an appeal.


                  What kind of you are indefatigable, well, not a comrade, you thank me neither for studies, nor for work, therefore the appeal here is inappropriate as well as your quiet minuses
    2. matross
      matross 23 August 2013 13: 50 New
      +6
      Quote: Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru

      Thanks for the great post with a nag response. good Somehow he hadn’t come across to me before.
      And a small request: do not abuse the color, pliz

      Quote: Apologet.Ru
      Vadivak

      Quote: Apologet.Ru
      It’s good when the loot order

      There will be order with the loot if you know how to do something well and find someone to sell it to ... the seeker will find water under a lying stone, etc. hi
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 23 August 2013 14: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: matRoss
        There will be order with the loot if you know how to do something well and find someone to sell it to ...


        This is not news to me,

        Have you seen a man agile in his business? He will stand before the kings; he will not face the simple.
        Proverbs 22: 29

        The question is different: one makes and sells, pays taxes, and as a result, his artel is called "Wasteful Labor", the other buys a penny from the one who does it, puts up 400% of the margin and sells - that’s exactly what traders in modern Russia do
        1. matross
          matross 23 August 2013 14: 36 New
          +6
          Quote: Vadivak
          This is not news to me.

          Well, I hope smile
          Quote: Vadivak
          that's exactly what traders in modern Russia do

          Maybe you're right. But I did not mean a fortune, traders, etc. business. I'm talking about ordinary people. If you are healthy, educated, not lazy, you have the opportunity to work and earn money.
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 23 August 2013 14: 56 New
            +1
            Quote: matRoss
            If you are healthy, educated, not lazy, you have the opportunity to work and earn money.


            Healthy, educated, not lazy.

            And if not educated? Well, parents don’t have the opportunity,

            Thanks to the United Russia party, which unanimously (314 votes) voted in favor, the State Duma adopted the Federal Law of the Russian Federation of May 8, 2010 N 83 ..., according to which, from September 1, 2013 secondary education in Russia will become paid.

            And if not healthy?
            Since 2013, it has become paid for us to turn to a specialist without referring a therapist in municipal clinics

            And it turns out that it’s not the lazy one who will have to master the profession for which the rich children simply won’t be born - a bricklayer, a carpenter, a car mechanic, a janitor - all work well, choose a good taste.
            1. afire
              afire 23 August 2013 17: 22 New
              +1
              give the link exactly where it is written, that I deeply doubt that you will find it
        2. Joker
          Joker 23 August 2013 19: 21 New
          +2
          another buys for a penny from the one who makes 400% mark-up and sells - this is exactly what makes traders in modern Russia a state otherwise

          They are speculators and there is an article for them, only nobody will punish them for it. But recently, we have come up with an innovation, the post of Russia together with speculators pushes the bill on 18% import tax, thus forcing our citizens to buy everything from speculators, they justified the project so, they say, over the past year, they all order everything from abroad , money, respectively, goes there, so they want to replenish the state's income in this way, and in fact they want their income, because ebay and other similar topics have recently become popular, where you can buy 95% of goods on our market and the price in 3-4 times cheaper, that is, without cheating speculators. So tighten the screws. The 100% project is pushed through, there speculators are going to dump money for it. This is how we live, soon we will pay for the air. And yet, the prices of everything we have are similar to Europe and the USA, that's all that we produce, and what comes from abroad, which is 60 percent, costs several times more, and at the same time the salary is less in 4-5, therefore, everyone is leaving Russia, because it’s commonplace everywhere ... they know, education here is the tenth thing, in the US it’s not better, and it’s also paid in full, only the standard of living is above MUCH. That's why everyone rushes there, who wants to get a penny and buy everything at a high price? And the government is not enough, every year prices are growing by leaps and bounds, and Z. p. figushki, reindexing mandatory on 134 TK. we do not have, a person can all his life with one level z.p. to work out. Gasoline on 0.4% increased over the summer, utilities are growing, now there will be a new experiment on electricity payments. AND? Our debt is growing, by the way, but now it is small, but it is slowly growing. We have a huge potential, a mountain of resources, but there is no development, we are marking time, and who wants to wait for something there, when something there? And about the same engineers, in Russia, the maximum z.p. will be 30-40 TR and in the US 4.5 T.E. there is a difference? We have no development in the workplace, everything has already been killed by relatives of friends.
          1. poquello
            poquello 23 August 2013 23: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: Joker
            another buys for a penny from the one who makes 400% mark-up and sells - this is exactly what makes traders in modern Russia a state otherwise

            They are speculators and there is an article for them, only no one will punish them.

            Not appreciating in general for educational program.

            Speculation is the purchase of a product in order to create a deficit for subsequent sale at an inflated price.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 23 August 2013 23: 31 New
              +2
              Quote: poquello
              Speculation - buying a product in order to create a deficit for subsequent sale at an inflated price.


              This is where you read about the deficit?
            2. poquello
              poquello 24 August 2013 00: 33 New
              +1
              Quote: Yarosvet
              Quote: poquello
              Speculation - buying a product in order to create a deficit for subsequent sale at an inflated price.


              This is where you read about the deficit?

              In a market economy.
            3. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 24 August 2013 01: 01 New
              +1
              Quote: poquello
              In a market economy.

              The answer is similar to a shortage of scribble. negative
            4. poquello
              poquello 24 August 2013 02: 56 New
              +1
              Yes, you are really right. I apologize to the audience. “Speculator”, “speculation” - now there are harmonious words that have nothing to do with breaking the law.
              The actions described by me as speculation are determined by the English word, which you will not immediately remember, despite the fact that artificial shortages and price tearing are a common occurrence among us.

              "CORNER (from English corner - angle)
              actions of a person, company, group of persons creating an artificial shortage of goods in the market by buying up exchange contracts and real goods in order to seize control of the exchange process and inflate prices. Exchange rules prohibit such actions. "
            5. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 24 August 2013 12: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: poquello

              hi
  • baltika-18
    baltika-18 23 August 2013 14: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: Apologet.Ru
    I repeat, but

    I put a minus. Not for you personally, but for the repost. I know to whom it belongs and for what reason it is written.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 23 August 2013 14: 33 New
      +3
      Quote: baltika-18
      Quote: Apologet.Ru
      I repeat, but

      I put a minus. Not for you personally, but for the repost. I know to whom it belongs and for what reason it is written.

      This Apologist ripped off from here
      On the discussion portal "Choice of Russia" published a curious personal opinion of the blogger Evroiskander.
      I, too, minus a, that's what they wrote about this post on other sites
      .64% for the umpteenth time they themselves all chose it
      Wonderful ass lick.

      By the link it is clear that this "blogger" from the propaganda department of EP. In 22 days
      336 messages, including 229 about politics, 59 about the economy. That is, a person
      professionally works. For comparison: I have 34 entries in 267 months, in
      the rest of the time you have to work.

      If your daughter in the second grade knows more than you in the fourth - this is not +
      education system, this is minus you !!))))))

      I don’t understand one thing - why should I tell you how it lives in my country, if I
      I live here myself and see everything with my own eyes? or if I will be every day in something
      to convince some bloggers whom I have never seen in my eyes, then around me
      everything will change? By the way, where does this engineer work, in which plant? so too
      I’m ready to have an education at the factory as an engineer, otherwise I have something
      still clean
      1. matross
        matross 23 August 2013 15: 06 New
        +5
        Quote: Vadivak
        By the way, where does this engineer work, in which plant? so too
        ready for the factory engineer education is

        I’ve looked specifically at the vacancies of engineers of different specializations - hundreds of them are required, s / n mainly from 40 TR You can get settled. Or do you think the salary is too small? And, if it's not a secret, now in what area are you working?
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 23 August 2013 15: 25 New
          +4
          Quote: matRoss
          I have specifically looked at the vacancies of engineers of different specializations - hundreds of them are required, salaries mainly from 40 tr


          Excuse me, where do you live? You can certainly not answer, but in our area the word "engineer" was forgotten about 10 years ago when they were finally plundered: machine-tool plant, forge-and-press equipment plant, tractor spare parts plant, battery plant, meat processing plant, brewery, distillery (which is wild for modern Russia) factory accountmash, bearing factory and other other ....
          1. matross
            matross 23 August 2013 15: 41 New
            +4
            Well, why? My answer is in St. Petersburg. And in your area AT ALL engineers are not needed? Nothing is being built, not produced? And in neighboring areas, not far?
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 23 August 2013 16: 12 New
            +3
            Quote: matRoss
            And in your area AT ALL engineers are not needed? Nothing is being built, not produced?


            It’s being built, Tajiks are building shopping malls, an electrical appliance factory from Chinese parts "produces" an electroshortportreb.
            Quote: matRoss
            And in neighboring areas, not far?

            I’m a bit old to think about neighboring areas, but I always had a good opinion about Petersburgers, with the exception of those from Shepetovka,
      2. rsnv
        rsnv 23 August 2013 15: 43 New
        +5
        Dear MatRos, could you please post a few links to the sites of enterprises where engineers are required with payroll of 40 tr.
        1. Iraclius
          Iraclius 23 August 2013 16: 22 New
          +2
          Dear MatRoss! For example, do not tell me fairy tales, please. My wife works as a design engineer of the 1 category at a defense enterprise. Salary - 10 thousand rubles. A year ago I received 8 thousand rubles.
          40 thousand p.? No, have not heard.
        2. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru 23 August 2013 19: 34 New
          +5
          hi
          Do not argue, it became interesting - I typed in the Google search engine "Salary of an engineer in Russia" and on - http://person-agency.ru/salary-ingener.html - saw everything. And 40 t. Is, and more and less. So do not blame someone for something, and justify the other. It’s someone who settled down in life ...
        3. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 24 August 2013 00: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Iraclius
          No, have not heard.

          In our town every Wednesday in all the shops there is an advertising newspaper (free). So, after about a year, every issue already prints an ad- "Work in Russian factories" and a list of required specialists is given indicating the size of wages (even the provision of housing). Engineers are very much in demand. But the wages are different, it depends on the region. But I didn’t meet 10 thousand, although I constantly look at these ads just out of interest, I want to know how the industry is recovering in the country. And the demand for certain specialties are a wonderful illustration.
        4. rexby63
          rexby63 24 August 2013 11: 26 New
          +1
          My wife also works as a design engineer of the 1st category and the salary is 30 thousand rubles. And this despite the fact that our city of Kostroma does not shine with high salaries. For example, in neighboring Yaroslavl, her colleagues earn 60-70 thousand rubles
  • Iraclius
    Iraclius 23 August 2013 16: 19 New
    +4
    Horseradish yourself, how many Apologist pluses have stuck. All clear. I thought that in Ukraine everything is fine. That the fights in the Rada are staged. That unemployment is a fiction of evil zhurnalyug and an acquaintance, a Ukrainian, who left Poltava for Russia. That a swindle with Russian gas is a profanity. Yes, and in Russia everything is fine, that's it. Just think that a subscription to a normal sports complex costs in my city from 60 thousand rubles. per year, and the state employee rate is 6 thousand rubles or even less. That beer is cheaper than milk. That schools will soon have paid education. That housing prices are rising, and the mortgage is predatory. That factories were closed, but jobs were not created. What one buy-sell around. That without having a hell, you get a hell of a normal job. That the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. That the Russian economy is entirely sitting on oil exports, which, curvy, will end sooner or later. Thank you for revealing the truth about life in Ukraine and Russia. Hehe. lol
    We live normally ... And at the same time, personally, I do not lose heart. And if there are any positive developments, then I am always happy to state them. Another thing is that there are few of them. There is very little that they can change anything. I'm sorry.
    1. Nicola
      Nicola 25 August 2013 21: 38 New
      +1
      So we live, prepare a child for school, take a loan, get medical treatment, take a loan, young people and their parents take a loan for housing for young people, on both sides, to bury, we need a loan again. It's time for the Russians to officially outlaw, it will be faster to clear the territory for the new owners. It's a shame that not far foreign enemies are doing this. But their corrupt ones ....... Our state-owned enterprise, the salary of an electrician of the 5th category is 6.7 thousand. with a living wage of 7-8 thousand, the villages look as if the invaders had just been knocked out. The country’s sex go to work in Moscow. There’s no room for optimism. I’m not at work, I work at two jobs, I focus on how much intellect is enough, but for scared children and grandchildren, how will they live next?
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    1. Iraclius
      Iraclius 23 August 2013 17: 34 New
      +5
      Alas, the rules of the Russian language do not allow the adjective "successful" to be applied to the noun "person". Successful can be the work, the beginning, the completion of something. And people are lucky, hardworking, persistent.
      I know a lot of people who are stubborn and hardworking, but the bottom line is that such people are ass-vi-ga-yut. Do you offer me, for example, to engage in trading? And I believe that a person should do what he studied for or, ideally, what he wants to do.
      But they don’t. Sorry to interrupt your conversation.
      It’s impossible to name the person whose parents gave him the Audi Q7 for the 20 anniversary, and then they took him to work in Moscow, but they can’t say “successful”.
      Sorry, but I know what PNA is and by whom and how it is made together in Russia.
      I don’t know what you are doing, but I can recommend recording a series of lectures on “success” and distributing them among rural youth, for example. They somehow did not get this "success".
  • old man54
    old man54 23 August 2013 17: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: Apologet.Ru
    I probably live in another country.

    That's exactly what you live in another country, but not physically, but metalically, illusory, as in a matrix !!! and you don’t want to wake up either, because ... SCARY AS YOUbetter head in the sand! am
    1. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 23 August 2013 17: 52 New
      0
      hi
      Quote old man54 (2)
      you don’t want to wake up either, because ... IT IS SCARY AS YOU, it is better to head in the sand!

      I just try to live positively and see more good, unlike you.
      But Cherni is real in life, here you are absolutely right and there is enough, only I solve these problems silently, without whining and not complaining about the whole district, like I am hrenov ... and hrenovan people have to.
      Judging by your comment, a colleague like you consider yourself to be intellectuals and even look at life with wide eyes with a proudly raised head, but see around, for some reason, only to J.opu, maybe that's why the life around you is like that?
      You remind me of a recently seen lady at a resort in Turkey in Kemer, who came from the Russian hinterland.
      For her, everything was not so - and the beach is not ennobled, and there is little meat, and the tomatoes are not ripe, and the wine is sour ...

      1. old man54
        old man54 23 August 2013 19: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: Apologet.Ru
        I just try to live positively and see more good, unlike you.

        You will probably be surprised, but I also see a lot of good in everyday life, but this does not apply to the actions of the authorities, by and large, and to what this once-really great country was blamed for, people who came to power in tanks in the 91st! But what do you see? An illusion, a “matrix” (literally from the film of the same name), your full belly and your passport all stamped with marks about crossing the state border? We have a fundamentally different angle of view - you commonplace selfish consumerI am worried about the people and society (ethnos).
        Quote: Apologet.Ru
        Judging by your comment, a colleague like you consider yourself intellectuals

        is that bad? Or do you think you need to be stupid, uneducated and short-sighted? Well then you are even more в one jet with the current state power, with its reform of education, the exam and the like.
        Quote: Apologet.Ru
        I solve problems silently, without whining and not complaining about the whole district, how do I h.renovo ...

        judging by your speeches, you only solve your personal problems (your shirt is closer to your body). Sorry.
        Quote: Apologet.Ru
        but they see around, for some reason, only to J.opu, maybe that's why the life around you is like that?

        I see the “asshole” in perspective, as a result of that policy, including financial, which is carried out by the GDP and others like it! But among the people, in the Slavic ethnos, I just see the birth of something Light, powerful and strong, God forbid, would be stronger! We and people like you look at the world differently, we have different goals and dreams, alas. You are getting angry about personal welfare, but I’m saying that there is no order with the country and ethnic group, and it’s aggravating (i.e. degradation). But here you do not even see the difference in what I wrote here, what can I talk about next? hi
        1. michajlo
          michajlo 23 August 2013 22: 14 New
          +5
          old man54 (2) RU Today, 19:16

          Good evening, dear Andrey!
          I completely agree with you about your assessment of the events and most importantly you raise the question: What will happen tomorrow, in 5, 10, 20 and more years?

          I can not add from myself 2 similar comments on your note:
          1.
          In the Slovak Internet (not my words) I found a good and very accurate definition of FREEDOM of a person: "The concept of freedom is not determined by the number of" seals in a passport "!
          2.
          Why rejoice from the full shelves in the store and 20.000 items of goods, if you do not have enough money for bread, etc.!?

          Those. in other words, we can argue which beer and vodka we will buy for today's booze / feast, but only if you and I have BREAD and a minimum of products.
          If not for food, then we will postpone fun and relaxation.

          Sincerely, Mikhailo.
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 23 August 2013 23: 47 New
            +5
            Quote: michajlo
            The concept of freedom is not determined by the number of “seals in a passport”!


            Красиво.
      2. old man54
        old man54 23 August 2013 19: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: Apologet.Ru
        You remind me of a recently seen lady at a resort in Turkey in Kemer, who came from the Russian hinterland.

        laughing Well, let it be so, a lover of resorts and infantile ladies! wink
        And you remind me very much of my mother, a pensioner, with 10 classes of education, exorbitant ego and bourgeois worldview! She, too, in response to my talks about the country's hopeless prospects, about the inevitable collapse of the economy and the venality of power, says: "but now everything has become full in stores, not like in the USSR, what else is needed, Andrei ,?" laughing (No comments)
        Or one comedian, a type manager, with solid experience and a “resume”, dumped me in response to these same conversations about the country's perspective as a whole: “what about the economy, then, financial analysis, look at what machines we are in Russia today we’re driving! Everything is fine now, and tomorrow ... tomorrow we’ll see good laughing The feast during the plague is shorter!
        Doesn't it remind oneself? laughing
        1. jjj
          jjj 24 August 2013 21: 35 New
          +3
          Or maybe you should listen to mom
    2. Anatolich
      Anatolich 25 August 2013 14: 39 New
      +1
      They are either drunk or smoked, or maybe from a hangover, the tongue of one, that of the other is braided
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  • SASCHAmIXEEW
    SASCHAmIXEEW 27 August 2013 11: 31 New
    0
    And who in these disputes is for whom?
  • Val_y
    Val_y 27 August 2013 11: 43 New
    0
    I can’t understand, if we talk about Europe, I must first clean it up in my apartment, fix the tap, wash the windows, paint the front door, wash things, and then say that they have all the class, but everything is bad with us, or vice versa. It infuriates me so much when they say “we’ll enter the Europe, we’ll immediately heal”, but they don’t see themselves point-blank, they’re not cleaned for years, they don’t wash the floor for years, they aren’t swept, dusty, cockroach, the basin is made of rusty drips of shitty color, the toilet bowl can be tin, but they argue, we are de bad, and they are wow. Culture begins with yourself and your family and at home where you live.
  • GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 23 August 2013 10: 11 New
    0
    Quote: afire
    sorry for offtop
    The Kolomna Kremlin at http://10russia.ru/object_61 closed the gap since yesterday.
    We need to push it, we vote 3 times from each observer, if from the opera, then mozilla, then from the explorer to vote, then we get 9 votes from each person!
    Profanation? no - fight

    More for The Astrakhan Kremlin http://10russia.ru/results_2 , соревнующийся с Золотой обителью Будды, а также Kizhi http://10russia.ru/object_28 , соревнующуюся с мечетью Кул Шариф.
    And more Solovetsky Archipelago http://10russia.ru/object_23, соревнующийся с ингушскими башнями Эрзи.
  • afire
    afire 23 August 2013 10: 29 New
    -2
    I have values ​​and I am ready to protect them, how? this is the background, the guy wrote in an article this afternoon -

    Forget the rules!
    First of all, let's talk about how to behave yourself so that our country in general can become happy rich and strong. Here it is necessary to understand, and what if "play by the rules." Let us remember the great Russian naval commander Admiral Ushakov, who, without hesitation, "violated" the order of the sea battle and, thanks to this, smashed the superior forces of the Turks.
    We, the Russian people, are in the pen. Do not hesitate, long before the evil old woman Margaret Thatcher (and she wanted to leave only 15 million souls in the entire Soviet space), the plans for the destruction of our country were determined by the order from which we, while alive, would be allowed to go under the knife. Hoping that the gate will open in the pen or at least the pen will be expanded - utter nonsense. The fence will have to break, break headlong! Discarding such things as “decency”, “civilization”, modesty and, I warn you, sometimes even conscience (it should be left for its own, to deal with the enemy with conscience - a lot of honor). The world has become different. Everything is constant, like in a war, or - it is you, or - you are his. In such an environment is useful to become a barbarian. But, here it is again important to understand that the barbarian is for the enemy (it does not matter whether the external is the enemy or the internal). Remember, the bourgeoisie (I also include bureaucrats in this notion) will not spare us, which means no mercy for them either.

    I do not support all of his principles, but where others do not play by the rules, I, too, am not required to comply. and dude return_SSSR mixed everything with a freebie and a craving for corruption — an unwise person, but an unwise one, because you allowed yourself to insult another without any reason and showed your inappropriate conjectures in this case.
    put a minus - justify
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 23 August 2013 10: 39 New
      +7
      What else do you have to substantiate?
      A person who believes that he can violate the norms of morality and honor depending on the situation - simply does not have the right to be called a man laughing
      Not only that, it also requires an honest attitude from others.
      A kind of "chameleon" laughing
      where others do not play by the rules, I, too, am not obliged to observe them.
      Those. do you think this is normal?
      And why are you better than Novalny or Judah? Gorby and the same techer? The foulbrood in the soul manifests itself in exactly this way.
      But it was possible to solve the situation in a different way, and not play by vile rules.
      1. afire
        afire 23 August 2013 10: 45 New
        0
        you confuse everything - read all my comments and you will understand everything http://topwar.ru/32181-tolerantnost-pobedila-i-russkuyu-istoriyu-i-zdravyy-smysl

        .html
        Calm down, think it over and take your time with conclusions. read to the end
        1. Refund_SSSR
          Refund_SSSR 23 August 2013 10: 51 New
          +4
          What is tolerance here?
          Do you even analyze the words that I write to you or not? laughing (the question is of course rhetorical .. obviously not).
          Foul play? do not participate! or is such a vitally important question at stake that it’s worth trampling the latter?
          Although ... Churovschina smacks of ... 146% - this is normal ...
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            1. Refund_SSSR
              Refund_SSSR 23 August 2013 10: 59 New
              +4
              laughing handsome! with a look of a proud eagle, he answered me with my own phrase! laughing
              C.T.D.
              We don’t know how to think .. we think in patterns of other people's phrases.
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              3. Vadivak
                Vadivak 23 August 2013 19: 53 New
                +2
                Quote: afire
                What a wise guy deleted all my posts?



                Well, that's all, only those where you get personal, don’t be offended
              4. afire
                afire 23 August 2013 22: 29 New
                -1
                In fairness, for the sake of my opponents, also pee, there are a lot of personal insults
              5. Vadivak
                Vadivak 23 August 2013 23: 45 New
                +1
                Quote: afire
                In fairness, for the sake of my opponents, also pee, there are a lot of personal insults


                I brush it, don’t hesitate
  • smile
    smile 23 August 2013 16: 23 New
    +3
    Refund_SSSR
    Really. The mention of the bulk is quite out of place ... these are the "fighters" who are yelling about dishonest elections, being dishonest thieves and crooks ready to break any moral standards, I'm not talking about the laws, in a fight for power ....

    afire
    Tovarisch, aren't you ashamed? You still have Chinese consumer goods on the VO website advertise .... you will succeed, wrestler ... horseradish ....
    1. afire
      afire 23 August 2013 17: 18 New
      -1
      I will be ashamed when, because of people like you and your kind, the heart of Chechnya will become a symbol of Russia, we will laugh together, although no, you will angrily condemn it! how so. everything is bought, all the bastards and not patriots, but it will only be too late, you will be poked in the face with this mosque every time you give a hint about the Caucasians, you yourself will be angry that they usurped everything. And you will be exactly like your Bulk! And that is exactly what will give them even greater permissiveness! Think clever farther, you will not go far.
      1. old man54
        old man54 23 August 2013 18: 45 New
        +5
        Quote: afire
        I will be ashamed when, due to people like you and others like you, the heart of Chechnya will become a symbol of Russia

        and think about why the beautiful Russian people became real cattle today, why did he degrade so spiritually and who creates, artificially, the prerequisites for this ?! We sat on the neck, really, and the Caucasus is the last thing, and we are silent, and this persecution is between us. Russians, and Chechens ... is it really not clear that we are again pitted with them, like fighting dogs, huh ?? Is there really not enough brain to understand, neither we nor them ?? Well, let them understand it themselves, but here we are Slavs, and people like you are at least incomprehensible to me, colleague! Your problem number 1 is voting on the net, but the real problems of the country, life, economy - and x ... with them, right? fool But to strain your brains and think who needs it and it is profitable for the 3rd "Chechen" war to break out again, is it difficult ?? Eh, you, the fatherland, mother time-mother !! angry
        1. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 24 August 2013 00: 36 New
          0
          Quote: old man54
          Russian people became real "cattle"

          Well, yes, yes .... all the people became im. But I am extremely glad that this unfortunate fate has personally passed you. Will anyone open my eyes to this "b.s.d.u." ..... Oh do mercy, do not leave us in the dark .... Many thanks in advance, sir ....
      2. smile
        smile 23 August 2013 19: 39 New
        +3
        afire
        How much strain ...:))) ... poking me in the face is a rather unreasonable task, usually people somehow understand this and don't do stupid things ... :)))
        But I have a very bad attitude towards dishonest people of any nationality ... you yourself told about your dishonesty ... what is not clear to you, a fighter with Caucasian usurpation?
  • ildar335
    ildar335 23 August 2013 19: 15 New
    +1
    plus koment!
  • kotvov
    kotvov 24 August 2013 09: 01 New
    +2
    why do you measure everything on your own. if you live in, live and rejoice. but you don’t live in me. Russians have a sense of justice. So continue to serve thieves and felons: who turned the country into a thieves den.
  • SASCHAmIXEEW
    SASCHAmIXEEW 27 August 2013 11: 27 New
    0
    The Jewsionists brought us a freebie when the kings let them in to us !!! And who has the media in their hands? They are slowly corrupting the Russian people !!!
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  • Lapotnik
    Lapotnik 23 August 2013 10: 11 New
    -1
    If you send an SMS with three numbers 61 61 61, then for one SMS three votes will be counted at once, and as I tried - how many SMS did not go - everything will be counted.

    The fraud is obvious, and the cheating is obvious, but this does not mean not to vote, on the contrary. This is one way to fight, I agree.
  • lazy
    lazy 23 August 2013 13: 03 New
    +2
    thanks for the information, it would be a shame if the heart of Chechnya becomes a symbol of Russia, he voted he gave the link in contact, classmates and my world, there are already responses, damn they just did not know about this competition
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      1. afire
        afire 23 August 2013 15: 05 New
        0
        it’s unbelievable, even if you throw 9 points every day on the entire forum, we’ll never reach such a scale .... never ....
        sheer islamization
        now
        mosque - 8 454 401
        Kolomensky 7 673 754
        gap 780 thousand
        IN THE MORNING THE GAP WAS ABOUT 200 thousand,
        1. old man54
          old man54 23 August 2013 18: 49 New
          +3
          Quote: afire
          it’s unbelievable, even if you throw 9 points every day on the entire forum, we’ll never reach such a scale ... never reach .... explicit Islamization

          it seems to me that you are a troll! What is the main problem of Russia or what ??? You "-" from me!
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          2. Lapotnik
            Lapotnik 24 August 2013 00: 06 New
            +1
            Well, I'll write again, more restrained.

            Russia has many problems, one of them is the information war, and the fact that the second most important channel supports this war is unacceptable.

            I’m afraid to imagine that Russia’s tolerant choice in the form of the Kadyrovs will triumph soon on television in Russia, and then in Europe. The soldiers who fought in Chechnya will certainly be "happy."

            The war is not only going live, but for the mind and soul of a person, one must first of all fight.
  • artemiy
    artemiy 23 August 2013 09: 35 New
    +2
    It all depends on the person, what to do and what not to do! For example, I filter the news for myself and find a lot of positive! Well, if anyone wants to suffer, poke, howl and howl, then this is his choice as a worthless person!
  • KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 23 August 2013 10: 14 New
    +5
    Quote: optimist
    It all depends on what angle to look at any event.

    In forensics, one of the leading principles of crime investigation has always been - "WHO IS FAVORABLE"!
    The question of the media ... about their focus on materials ... a selection of articles ... their content - "WHO IS BENEFITED IN LIGHTING EVENTS" is justifiable to raise the question of the media ...
    Which side do not look ... at least from the side ... at least in full view ... but white can be shown in black only on order. For money!
    In the past 20-25 years, the media have received the status of "free" ... Unfortunately, it is understood ONLY AS A POSSIBILITY OF ACCUMULATION ... AND ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE WORD ... FOR INFORMATION BEFORE THE SOCIETY IN WHICH YOU LIVE .... FORGOTTEN FORGET !! ! Sometimes a 22-25 year-old journalist comes along, without experience and a proper level of education ... runs in 5-10 minutes on the topic with his empty, ill-conceived questions and runs to make articles ... which are given as a direct indication of life development. Self-confidence and complacency are rushing out of this "dummy" ... but to send further away - the law does not command ... So these self-proclaimed representatives of the "fourth branch of power" are expelled. But who allowed them to do this?
    Now it’s not objectivity ... but only MONEY ... AGAIN MONEY is in most cases the INCENTIVE MOTIVE of the media!
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 23 August 2013 10: 57 New
      +1
      Negativity is only in foreign media, in our media I did not notice something big negative. Flood? Cataclysms of nature? Wars, conflicts, Syria, for example, is our reality, or do you propose not to show it? Well, this is a given. In addition, the author should not forget that media showing disasters, wars, killings, etc. have a higher rating. Here is our media and show what is interesting to the "greedy" viewer. And few will watch the positive news. Well, and most importantly, what’s the head on your shoulders for? Filter gears.
  • Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 23 August 2013 11: 36 New
    +2
    Quote: optimist
    And the truth, as always, somewhere in the middle ... It all depends on what angle to look at any event.


    And after all, they minus the article, which is typical. A person clearly hit the mark - that don’t do everything badly.
  • lelikas
    lelikas 23 August 2013 12: 39 New
    +3
    Well, not everything was so badly, I recently noticed - the word plane / helicopter crash, our media replaced with the term "made a hard landing" - FSU. that there are 17 corpses - for that the nerves of the audience are in perfect order.
  • strange and pretty meaningless
    strange and pretty meaningless 23 August 2013 15: 23 New
    +1
    If there is no water in the tap ... wassat
  • nycsson
    nycsson 23 August 2013 18: 28 New
    +1
    . Put a minus. negative
  • APASUS
    APASUS 23 August 2013 19: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: optimist
    And the truth, as always, somewhere in the middle ... It all depends on what angle to look at any event.

    But do not look at an angle!
    In the modern world, there is a tendency to receive serious information from the media, not burdened by the views of the author, the ambitions of governments and owners. We must tell the truth ........ or, as a rule, "has no analogues in the world"!
  • Mature naturalist
    Mature naturalist 25 August 2013 19: 35 New
    0
    Quote: optimist
    It all depends on what angle to look at any event.

    Yes, it's true. The article did not like. Rather, the topic. Rather, bias. Maybe the author spends too much time in virtuality? Among the tricks that pour their complexes into the network using anonymity.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 23 August 2013 08: 17 New
    13
    Correctly written !! such a negative comes from the media (even ours) .. They’re directly hammered for days and with constant repetitions (sinking, exploding, crumbling, killing ..) Here, only the outlet has remained on the site .. fellow
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 23 August 2013 08: 47 New
      11
      So where are they? ... OUR MEDIA? ...
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 23 August 2013 08: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      such negativity comes from the media (even ours)


      Ours was under the USSR if that
    3. 225chay
      225chay 23 August 2013 09: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      negative comes from the media (even ours).

      And in whose hands is the media?
    4. Constantine
      Constantine 23 August 2013 10: 06 New
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Correctly written !! such a negative comes from the media (even ours) .. They’re directly hammered for days and with constant repetitions (sinking, exploding, crumbling, killing ..) Here, only the outlet has remained on the site ..


      Now, in my opinion, there is an active preparation for the second attempt to arrange a coup. Only this time, all resources are connected. I have voiced this opinion before. The government conducts an anti-state policy, which causes dissatisfaction of citizens with all the power since many do not distinguish, the media bombard the brain with negative and Olesha, Internet hamsters have become active on the network (this is clearly visible on many resources), Serdyukov’s landing is blocked, etc. Negativity is pumped with terrible force. sad
    5. eplewke
      eplewke 23 August 2013 10: 23 New
      +5
      We have such negative ones on the site. Any good news can be filthy, slanderous, slandering. It sometimes feels like a bunch of NSA officers, Mossadovtsevs and just anti-Russians are sitting on the site! Even news such as new aircraft entered the army, are successfully minus and defiled by some personalities. Sometimes you think about it, for people there is no positive news, everything is negatively perceived on a subconscious level, I honestly feel sorry for such people, or they are professional trolls ...
    6. Evgeniy-111
      Evgeniy-111 23 August 2013 12: 47 New
      +3
      Another outlet is the “Made With Us” website.
      http://www.sdelanounas.ru/
  • NOMADE
    NOMADE 23 August 2013 08: 18 New
    16
    Indeed, do not say, but you still need a certain qualification. It has long been proven that if you constantly turn the “chernukha” in the form of murders, pedophiles, rapes and homosexuals, then there will be a strong opinion in society that we live in frank hell! The human psyche loops well in the negative, skipping past the rest of the good news. Moreover, for some unbalanced ("undecided"), there are "fantasies" and feelings without punishment, from here - a wave of growing violence!
    What is happening in news programs, especially in the Internet media and yellow newspapers, suggests that this is an order against Russia and open terror sad
    1. Andrey312
      Andrey312 23 August 2013 09: 22 New
      10
      If we introduce qualifications - NTV will have nothing to show)))
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 23 August 2013 10: 31 New
        11
        03: 10 Mask of the death of Igor Tankov
        05: 05Hunting a genius. 13 series
        06: 00NTV in the morning
        08: 35 Return of Mukhtar-2. "And the old woman is a bummer." "Still life over the toilet"
        10: 00Today
        10: 20 Return of Mukhtar-2. "And the old woman is a bummer." "Still life over the toilet"
        10: 55 Before trial
        11: 55 Jury trial
        13: 00Today
        13: 25 Jury trial. Final verdict
        14: 35 The Case of Doctors
        15: 30 Overview. Emergency
        16: 00Today
        16: 25 Prosecutorial Verification
        17: 40 "We Speak and Show" with Leonid Zakoshansky
        18: 30 Overview. Emergency
        19: 00Today
        19: 30Я - Angina
        23: 25 Capercaillie. Return. "In good conscience." "Cement"
        01: 25 Cossack
        03: 15 Deadly escort
        Is this for normal people?
        Cop-Bantit-yellow populist TV channel named after him.
        1. eplewke
          eplewke 23 August 2013 11: 57 New
          +5
          scandals, intrigues, investigations. Sometimes they inflate from some petty news such that it really seems to be living in the Middle Ages. You look at NTV, and it’s fun to live. Too yellow channel ...
        2. Fastblast
          Fastblast 23 August 2013 15: 04 New
          +2
          Our STB is in charge of such a tough man.
        3. Anatolich
          Anatolich 25 August 2013 14: 48 New
          0
          Even my wife doesn’t watch NTV, I hardly watch TV at all, only news sometimes, but this is enough
  • Genady1976
    Genady1976 23 August 2013 08: 18 New
    0
    well, kamuto is bad and kamuto is good
    1. Gregazov
      Gregazov 23 August 2013 10: 05 New
      +4
      I feel good. For 4 years, the box has been twisting only cartoons for his son. All news on the Internet and only selectively. No worries about passions played out by the media.
  • Garik
    Garik 23 August 2013 08: 19 New
    18
    When the generation of the 90s goes into oblivion, then such comments will end. In the meantime, fun is how to scold the president and the road in front of the TV, and that the devastation is still around. And they don’t think about the fact that the next day he goes to work and builds the same road with his own hands for which in the end he should be ashamed, first of all, in front of himself. It is necessary to begin the restoration of Russia in your brain!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 23 August 2013 09: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Garik
      It is necessary to begin the restoration of Russia in your brain!


      I also think so, we have a good government, he got the people of brains
    2. Prometheus
      Prometheus 26 August 2013 06: 57 New
      -1
      [quote = Garik] How to blame the president and the road in front of the TV, and that the devastation is still around. / quote]
      Do not ask what your country has done for you - ask what you have done for your country.
  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 23 August 2013 08: 19 New
    +5
    from the Don.
    For me, it all depends on the person. He wants it, he collects the garbage, he wants the berries! Fortunately, the sources of the shaft, including and Internet. I'm for the positive!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 23 August 2013 09: 36 New
      +6
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      For me, it all depends on the person. He wants, he collects garbage, wants berries!


      Even from its habitat, for example, from childhood, for example, a forest and a lawn have the property of berries, and those who live in the garbage can only rubbish
      1. borisjdin1957
        borisjdin1957 23 August 2013 14: 38 New
        +5
        What do you think that I should collect garbage? I live not in a garbage dump, but in a slaughtered, yami, state farm, once very rich! And do not tell me that everyone deserves the power that he deserves !!!
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 23 August 2013 15: 07 New
          +2
          Quote: borisjdin1957
          What do you think I should collect garbage?


          I do not think.

          Quote: borisjdin1957
          I live not in a garbage dump, but in a killed, by Yami, a state farm, when it was very rich!


          Once upon a time, everyone was equally rich.

          Quote: borisjdin1957
          And I do not need to say that everyone deserves the power that he deserves !!!


          Not every. Mass deserves. For example, I ate EP and she is still in power
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 23 August 2013 08: 24 New
    +4
    Everyone sees what HE sees ... a glass is either half full ... or empty!
    1. hohryakov066
      hohryakov066 23 August 2013 09: 46 New
      +6
      From the point of view of science, the glass is technically always full. winked
      1. Genry
        Genry 23 August 2013 14: 54 New
        +4
        From the point of view of almost any person, it’s always not topped in a glass, even a drop.
      2. shpuntik
        shpuntik 23 August 2013 21: 42 New
        +4
        hohryakov066 SU Today, 09:46 ↑
        From the point of view of science, the glass is technically always full.

        + The picture is unsuccessful, Archimedes would be in shock: water lies on a vacuum request
        If we consider that these glasses fly at a speed of 30 m / s in a cleaner vacuum, together with a pessimist and an optimist, then then it’s not even a glass laughing
        Well, in any case, if only he was, if only he would not break, but we’ll find what to fill with.
        By the way, there are new versions on the movement of the Earth. Here's a video:
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 24 August 2013 02: 20 New
          +1
          shpuntik RU Yesterday, 21:42 ↑
          hohryakov066 SU Today, 09:46 ↑
          From the point of view of science, the glass is technically always full.
          + The picture is unsuccessful, Archimedes would be in shock: the request water lies in a vacuum
          Given that these glasses are flying at a speed of 30 m / s in a cleaner vacuum

          Sorry typo: Earth's speed is about 30 km / s.
          And in general: pessimism is despondency, and despondency is a sin, and sin kills the soul, depresses the spirit of man. Valery, not a stone in your garden, I just consider this aphorism with superficial glasses. A long time ago I examined it, and you recalled.
          I liked the old-fashioned, rustic approach: "As you look, you see." :-)
          wink
  • NOMADE
    NOMADE 23 August 2013 08: 24 New
    +4
    Quote: Garik
    When the generation of the 90s goes into oblivion, then such comments will end. In the meantime, fun is how to scold the president and the road in front of the TV, and that the devastation is still around. And they don’t think about the fact that the next day he goes to work and builds the same road with his own hands for which in the end he should be ashamed, first of all, in front of himself. It is necessary to begin the restoration of Russia in your brain!


    + many Absolutely agree!
  • Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 23 August 2013 08: 44 New
    +2
    Article minus. The media is not only talking about bad things. It’s just that various kinds of troubles (strikes, murders, accidents) are going beyond the normal course of society, and therefore, attention is more focused on this.
    A country that was plunged into chaos and made to rejoice in worn jeans and the emergence of a “fast food restaurant”,
    What's wrong with worn jeans? I myself love more holes on them. I am a bad man? And there was enough nauseous and without us. That in our disdain to go, that in imported.
    I partially agree that there should be more positive things in media reporting. It especially freezes me personally when the central news shows an accident and training of some Ministry of Emergencies. It would be better if the cartoons showed.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 23 August 2013 09: 01 New
      +7
      Quote: Vrungel78
      What's wrong with worn jeans? I myself love more holes on them.


      The bad thing is that someone already wore these jeans, and the holes ... we have enough holes without jeans
      1. Vrungel78
        Vrungel78 23 August 2013 09: 13 New
        +2
        I do not buy used pants
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 23 August 2013 09: 28 New
          10
          Quote: Vrungel78
          I do not buy used pants


          I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the country, used cars, planes, combines of foreign manufacture, Chinese dump trucks have already appeared brrr
          1. does it
            does it 23 August 2013 11: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the country, used cars, planes, combines of foreign manufacture, Chinese dump trucks have already appeared brrr

            The Soviet Union bought foreign equipment, Italian, German. And it still works from the 60s.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 23 August 2013 11: 18 New
              +7
              Quote: kvirit
              The Soviet Union bought foreign equipment, Italian, German. And it still works from the 60s.


              Not used and the most advanced. And now it all depends on the amount of rollback, for a decent rollback you can even purchase museum equipment and implement it as innovative
            2. rsnv
              rsnv 23 August 2013 14: 02 New
              +6
              I agree that the USSR, basically, bought the means of production for the development of its industry and infrastructure, which cannot be said about the modern RF, which purchases for the most part consumer goods, food and medicine. And as you rightly pointed out, some of this equipment still works today, bringing profit to the "efficient" owners who have warmed their hands in the collapse of the Union.
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 23 August 2013 15: 38 New
                +5
                Quote: rsnv
                Some of this equipment still works today.


                I remember a third of the countries bought US poultry slaughter lines bypassing the embargo for poultry farms; until now, it worked without the participation of a person at the Tula Broiler (the largest factory) while it was strangled by a new owner, young and completely crazy
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 23 August 2013 08: 46 New
    19
    "Two looked at one window,
    one saw rain and dirt,
    another - foliage green ligature!
    Two looked at one window. "
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 23 August 2013 09: 06 New
      +5
      Quote: Bort Radist
      one saw rain and dirt,
      another - foliage green ligature!



      One looked from Merc to Tverskaya,
      The second from the kennel to the collapsed collective farm
      1. Novosib980
        Novosib980 23 August 2013 10: 35 New
        0
        Why are you being minus? I do not understand.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 23 August 2013 11: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: Novosib980
          Why are you being minus? I do not understand.


          Negative youth. They do not see, or do not want to see, our problems. How they press us in housing and communal services, how they take money from pensioners and give them to build olympiads and championships and plunder, they don’t know that according to the budget rule that our president is so happy with, we can spend money from selling energy resources on us, on Russia, on our economy , in our social sphere only after we are in the reserve fund, which is stored - you know - there, "at the adversary", abroad, where the State Department, we put 7 percent of GDP. If after this something remains, then it can go already to the national welfare fund.
    2. does it
      does it 23 August 2013 11: 06 New
      -1
      Quote: Bort Radist
      Two looked at one window, one saw rain and dirt, the other - green foliage! Two looked at one window. "

      Just one Pessimist is another Optimist.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 23 August 2013 12: 56 New
        +4
        Quote: kvirit
        Just one Pessimist is another Optimist.


        Rather a realist and a dreamer
    3. Mhpv
      Mhpv 23 August 2013 11: 09 New
      +7
      I will continue:
      The tenant - to the homeowner:

      “I demand that I reimburse the forfeit!”
      My bedroom window overlooks the construction site.
      RATTLE hammers in the yard in the morning -
      I have been clutching my ears all day!
      Bring sand for the concrete mixer,
      LAY on the lawn iron beams!
      You PROMISED me gardens and fountains,
      And instead of fountains, working cranes.
      Some rubbish is constantly SMOKING ...
      IMPERFECT of the room VIEW!
      Bring me this view to the limit!
      I am extremely angry. Answer: WHAT TO DO ??

      Homeowner - Landlord:

      - Well, while the unfinished view ...
      But the construction will end, the smoke will breathe
      Concrete mixers will go away and cranes.
      Flowers BLIND, SPLITTERS SPEND!
      The benches will be PAINTED in a cheerful flower,
      In the sandboxes a clean SATURATE sand,
      LAY paths, DELIVER fences,
      And your yard will be in perfect order!
      And you say, precious tenant,
      What is the PERFECT VIEW from the window!
      And your happiness will have no limits,
      Just give the builders a job to DO.
      A. Ignatova
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer 24 August 2013 06: 01 New
        +1
        and the building pulled up some time.
  • Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 23 August 2013 08: 49 New
    +2
    dogs bark ... and then the caravan is coming !!!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 23 August 2013 09: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: Silkway0026
      dogs bark ... and then the caravan is coming !!!


      In London?
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist 23 August 2013 09: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: Vadivak
        Quote: Silkway0026
        dogs bark ... and then the caravan is coming !!!


        In London?

        How many wolves do not feed ..
      2. explorer
        explorer 23 August 2013 10: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: Vadivak
        In London?

        Yeah !!! belay with the new Berezovsky.
  • alone
    alone 23 August 2013 08: 56 New
    +3
    Well, yes! One generation will leave, another will come. And, time? It’s not coming back anymore. Years are ticking ((
  • Averias
    Averias 23 August 2013 09: 00 New
    +9
    I have long had the impression (reading forums, watching the media) that the bulk of the Russians are only busy looking for the bad. From any good news, homegrown "analysts" immediately draw "far" far-reaching conclusions of universal stupidity. I have a question for these "gentlemen": Gentlemen, if everything is so bad with us, if you see one negative. What the hell are you doing here. Fall into a "perfect and prosperous" Europe. "Shock" the Europeans with your "remarkable analytical talent." Gentlemen are kitchen fighters for justice and "zealous" fighters for their homeland and "patriots" - won out of the country. No place for you here.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 23 August 2013 09: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: Averias
      the bulk of the Russians are only busy looking for the bad.


      If so, then most live not fun.

      29.07.2013
      63 percent of the country's inhabitants feel proud of the army and military power. The least positive emotions are caused by the Russians in the material component. So, to the question “Could you say about yourself that you are proud of the standard of living in Russia?” 80 percent of respondents answered “no,” and only 14 percent answered yes.
      At the same time, young people from 18 to 24 years old are more optimistic and enthusiastic. Older Russians are less proud of both history and athletes and the army. Differences in age groups for each item range from seven to 14 percent.
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 24 August 2013 00: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Vadivak
        ", And only 14 percent

        Dear Vadivak, all polls should not be taken as truth. It’s not you who personally interviewed, right? For some reason, you don’t really believe Churov with his numbers, but the numbers that say that you’re trashing and posting in your posts. the same logic? VTsIOM and other "Levada centers" are nothing more than NGOs. So do not hesitate to believe these calculations.
    2. Novosib980
      Novosib980 23 August 2013 10: 38 New
      +2
      Go to demotivation.me, look at the comments, this is a real shock! Yes, and the "demotivators" there just in time for this article confirmation.
    3. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 23 August 2013 11: 27 New
      +4
      Commentators want an emotional response from the audience, and approval with support. It is known that making a person cry is four times easier than laughing. Therefore, the authors of tearful melodramas are ten times more common than the authors of funny comedies (if humor is not sorted like Benny Hill or Monty Python, everything is simpler arranged there). That is, the potential author of funny things does not develop, does not work on himself, but simply also begins to put a tear from the viewer.
      Internet-warfare on a conscious level does not usually know this (they don’t know much, alas), but they feel like Pavlov’s dog. The manipulators who are fighting against us need only occasionally push those who want cheap support. If you want to immediately crush a devastating comment with thunder and lightning, with a river of tears and a lake of blood, think about it - maybe you just have nothing to say? Although this is a psychological exercise from the hardest ...
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 24 August 2013 01: 03 New
        -1
        Quote: Mikhail3
        To the manipulators who fight against us

        Mikhail, I applaud you for the second time today! Everything is very accurate! Plus.
  • Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt 23 August 2013 09: 06 New
    +5
    Who is tired of reading the negative, here:
    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/
    site of good news about factories under construction \ schools \ kindergartens \ airplanes \ steam locomotives \ steamboats yes good
  • saveall
    saveall 23 August 2013 09: 18 New
    12
    As Elder Paisius Svyatorets said - all people are divided into flies and bees ... Bees are everywhere looking for flowers, well, flies only ... you know what.
    Many flowers grew in the meadow. Here were white fragrant lilies, and hyacinths, and tall blue irises. And the little flowers also found a place in the grass. The wind tilted them, cheerfully swayed grass and leaves, and the aroma spread far, far away!
    Bees worked over the meadow, over the flowers. They collected sweet nectar to feed the young in the hive and stock up on food for a long, cold winter.
    This is where the fly flew. She hummed with displeasure and looked around.
    One little bee, who was here for the first time, politely asked the fly:
    “Do you know where the white lilies are?” The fly frowned:
    - I did not see any lilies here!
    - How! - the bee exclaimed. “But they told me that there should be lilies in this meadow!”
    I haven’t seen any flowers here, ”the fly muttered. - But not far, beyond the meadow, there is one ditch. The water there is amazingly dirty, and there are so many empty cans nearby!
    Then an older bee flew up to them, holding in their paws collected nectar. Learning what was the matter, she said:
    “True, I never noticed that there is a ditch behind the meadow, but I can tell so much about the local flowers!”
    You see, ”said Father Paisius. “Poor little fly just thinks of dirty ditches, and the little bee knows where lily grows, where is iris, and where is hyacinth.”
    And people are the same. Some are like a bee and they like to find something good in everything, others like a fly, and in everything they seek to see only the evil.
    In my opinion, the number of flies in our society has recently become very prevalent ...
  • Andrey312
    Andrey312 23 August 2013 09: 18 New
    +1
    “Negatively colored materials literally occupied numerous media so that every day we hear about how poorly Russian gays and lesbians live, how“ evil ”Assad poisons his citizens with chemical weapons, how Russian athletes fail at the Sochi Olympics, and how much money compatriots were stolen by Berezovsky, Polonsky and Borodin, as our army is weak compared to the Chinese or American. "

    The author talks about what media? I have never heard anything like it, with the exception of the deeds of Berezovsky and Polonsky.
  • horoh
    horoh 23 August 2013 09: 22 New
    0
    Not surprisingly, GDP experts talked about the futility of such tenders. And anyway for hell they need ?? !!
  • white_f
    white_f 23 August 2013 09: 29 New
    14
    You can not watch the zombie creature, just go outside. Petrol prices in our country have the characteristic feature of rising, under any circumstances. Oil prices rose, gas prices rose. Oil prices fell, gas prices rose. The bills for the apartment grew more than normal, the government threatens local bureaucrats with a finger and says to sort it out. Let’s tell us that the authorities are not to blame and that she knows nothing about it. Yeah ... Everything that surrounds you indicates that you are just biomass, and how to think about the good against the background of all this?
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 24 August 2013 01: 08 New
      -1
      Quote: white_f
      all that surrounds you indicates that you are just biomass,

      Can it be that parents and wife and children, as well as brothers, sisters, friends, classmates, are also telling you that you are just a biomass? In this case, I can sympathize. The truth itself has not happened to experience. Maybe there are some wrong people around me?
  • rugor
    rugor 23 August 2013 09: 33 New
    +1
    The author is clearly watching the wrong channels. Paid from abroad, the stump is clear, whining about how bad everything is.
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  • DPN
    DPN 23 August 2013 09: 35 New
    +7
    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: MIKHAN
    such negativity comes from the media (even ours)


    Ours was under the USSR if that

    Everything was ours right under the USSR, when there was confidence in the future. ina south it was possible to hit the road savage for 40 rubles. and nobody could drive them out of housing. than they are constantly scaring me. And now the whole country is in the hands of those who mainly live abroad and they tear the currency from in Russia due to the natural resources.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 23 August 2013 09: 42 New
      +8
      Quote: DPN
      And now the whole country is in the hands of those who mainly live abroad and the currency is torn from in Russia due to natural resources.


      It’s a pity it didn’t reach everyone. Many still do not understand why this government of Cyprus is helping Cyprus?
  • Shkodnick
    Shkodnick 23 August 2013 09: 38 New
    +6
    Western media like that about us
  • Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 23 August 2013 09: 39 New
    +5
    My opinion is this: with regard to news channels, the "black PR" always causes a person more interest due to stronger emotions.
    This is a long proven and studied fact. This is the nature of man.
    That is why, positive news in the era of the USSR was perceived sluggishly.
    Do not forget that all information passes through a chain of persons, starting from psychologists and ending with the main editor. And of course they carry out the state task.
    The material will be released in the format that is needed.
    The following factor: against the backdrop of the negative, people are intuitively looking for something positive and then even a message about the opening of a small factory for the production of toilet paper will have a resonance in the form of words - You see, not everything is bad with us ...

    And in conclusion, I want to remind the wisdom of the people - You need to compare yourself not with the worst, but with the best ...
    Then we will evaluate ourselves differently ...
  • a52333
    a52333 23 August 2013 09: 43 New
    +2
    Generally agree. There are many grant-eaters among the media, and advertisers are looking at the ratings that Western opinion polling centers assign. Therefore, probably the house-2 is still coming.
    But lately, pay attention, tonality has begun to change. Temko went about velvet revolutions, about their customers.
  • Paul
    Paul 23 August 2013 09: 53 New
    10
    What is bad in Russia? view from Belarus:
    1. RB sanatoriums are full of Russians (for me the prices are very decent, but for foreigners it’s generally ....)
    2. in the city every 20th car with Russian numbers, at market prices, well, not less than 15 kg of dead raccoons, not counting of course Lad
    3. apartment prices rose by 15-20%, again in connection with the purchase of apartments by Russians

    and in the media it’s possible, and the ins and outs of for example Holland or France to show that it will be sick

    IMHO
  • pinecone
    pinecone 23 August 2013 10: 00 New
    +3
    The information space of our country has undergone a strange metamorphosis.
    There is nothing strange here. In a state where the media belong to foreigners or related criminal financial gangs of "local kneading" it cannot be otherwise.
  • JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 23 August 2013 10: 00 New
    -1
    Everything is lost! Everything is lost! Chef !!!
    -?
    Is it ... ALL polymers!
  • Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 23 August 2013 10: 01 New
    0
    Here, in our time, you need to pay attention to who owns specific media. An order, in this regard, may also take place.
    Quote: borisjdin1957
    For me, it all depends on the person.

    If we talk about the principle, then by anyone, if you look at a person as an information system (IP). The behavior of IP depends on the incoming information and, as a consequence, on the general information background. Object information often requires immediate action (a car requires to leave its path), and prepares an information background (a soldier from the front line falls to the ground with a pop, the background at the front line is understandable). Abstract (books, rumors, media, etc.) has the same effect but is often delayed, for this it is given emotional significance (in accordance with the instincts acquired by attitudes, knowledge, etc.) i.e. information background prepares both individual actions and
    changes in society (if agreed). If it is negative, then this should be alarming. Somewhat abstractly of course, but without abstracting, sometimes you will not understand the essence.
  • 6216390
    6216390 23 August 2013 10: 02 New
    0
    In order for the media to write about the positive, this positive should be, look around: the arbitrariness of officials, low salaries and pensions, poor roads, high cost, etc.
    For the average layman there is no positive. Does the author suggest wearing pink glasses and getting positive?
    1. eplewke
      eplewke 23 August 2013 10: 26 New
      0
      It began ... Everything is bad, yes blah blah blah ... Especially for you, wrote a post above ... Hysterics, by golly ...
      1. 6216390
        6216390 23 August 2013 11: 34 New
        0
        Quote: eplewke
        All is bad yes blah blah blah.

        No need to juggle, most members of the forum adequately perceive messages, giving their estimates based on their own ideas, this is the dignity of VO. We are not talking about trolls.
    2. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 24 August 2013 01: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: 6216390
      For the average layman there is no positive.

      If it doesn’t bother you, provide the data - who personally authorized you to speak on behalf of all “ordinary inhabitants?” And is it possible to clarify who exactly you belong to this category?
  • 128mgb
    128mgb 23 August 2013 10: 12 New
    0
    I have long had the impression (reading forums, watching the media) that the bulk of the Russians are only busy looking for the bad. From any good news, homegrown
    And home-grown mazeps of all kinds are absorbing grants. There is more than one hundred million tea, and they prowl in every garbage dump.
  • Nickanor
    Nickanor 23 August 2013 10: 12 New
    +5
    Devastation in the heads, not closets! (c) Everyone sees what he wants to see. Media is business. And according to the laws of business, what is most popular is selling well. There is a demand and an offer. The crowd is waving. And, unfortunately, with the greatest appetite chernukha. Plus the initially paid channels. Further on the meaning.
    Idiotic TV shows, cartoons, which completely make nerds from children, Malakhov & Co, TV3, without interruption, shattering idiotic "mysticisms" - this is all in order to distract a person from the real situation and make him a zombie nerd.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 24 August 2013 01: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Nickanor
      Devastation in the heads, not closets! (with)

      Immortal work! I would advise everyone to keep it like a reference book. Very, you know, sobering.
  • PB1995
    PB1995 23 August 2013 10: 17 New
    10
    Something like that
  • Gato
    Gato 23 August 2013 10: 19 New
    0
    Negatively colored materials literally occupied by numerous media

    What's so surprising? It has long been known that good news sells poorly. Or does someone seriously believe that the media is really the media?
    This is the way people are arranged - it’s more interesting for them to read that a neighbor has died a cow than that someone has a good harvest.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 24 August 2013 01: 26 New
      0
      Quote: Gato
      That's the way people are

      It turns out that the problem is still in people? ... It remains to understand HOW to reformat them to the perception of good ........
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer 24 August 2013 06: 10 New
        +1
        yes it’s very simple. You just need to show after each negative news story what positive it really is. And people will enjoy life. at the quays on the Thames. and citizens will realize how great it is.
  • Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 23 August 2013 10: 20 New
    +5
    Quote: optimist
    And the truth, as always, somewhere in the middle ... It all depends on what angle to look at any event.

    If you wish, you can always find good positive news. Yesterday in the program "Time" they talked about the action "Help a sick child." So, instead of 3 million, almost 50 were transferred for the operation. Enough to help another 30 children! Whatever the good news? Firstly, our people are responsive and good, and secondly, how many children can still be helped!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 23 August 2013 15: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: Kovrovsky
      Yesterday in the program "Time" they talked about the action "Help a sick child." So, instead of 3 million, almost 50 were transferred for the operation. Enough to help another 30 children! Whatever the good news?


      It’s just wonderful, but for doctors, the operation is free to do weak? Like for example during the Soviet era? Does the state allocate money for medicines? Or loot only banks for loans?


      In general, collect citizens yourself for operations yourself, but pay taxes in the PF and medical staff.
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 24 August 2013 01: 35 New
        -1
        Quote: Vadivak
        authorities? Does the state allocate money for medicines? Or dough

        I would like to ask, didn’t you resort to the help of medicine under the Soviet government in a provincial provincial town? But I’ve worked all my life in it. I have something to compare with. Yes, it was free. to be treated is worth the money. "And such a saying, alas, did not arise out of nowhere. I, working in the system, paid 280 rubles for a medicine for my own child (I had to sell some things) ...... I do not say that EVERYTHING was bad. But I would not want to be treated at that level today.
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer 24 August 2013 06: 18 New
          +2
          yes .. I remember the Soviet times. I was an asthmatic in childhood ... my poor mother, receiving only 130-150 rubles a month, sent me to the Crimea for three months for 50 rubles (cost for 3 months, not 1, I specify )
          So, for comparison, today it should cost about ... well, about 10-15 thousand. (Given the ratio of w-you and the cost of the permit). So the question is, uv. Tverichanka-where to buy a ticket to the Crimea for 3 months for 15 thousand? (Accommodation, meals, flights included), do not tell me? By the way, we lived then in the non-staff city of one of the republics.
  • reader1964
    reader1964 23 August 2013 10: 20 New
    +3
    Stop shitting on my brains, I want to see on the "box" about successes and accomplishments, joyful faces, not corpses.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 23 August 2013 17: 40 New
      +5
      Quote: reader1964
      Stop shitting on my brains, I want to see on the "box" about successes and accomplishments, joyful faces, not corpses.

      What do you propose to do for this - to solve problems, or just stop talking about them?
  • RBLip
    RBLip 23 August 2013 10: 30 New
    +5
    I don’t look at the zombie box at all. not interested.
    Quote: Kovrovsky
    Yesterday in the program "Time" they talked about the action "Help a sick child." So, instead of 3 million, almost 50 were transferred for the operation. Enough to help another 30 children! Whatever the good news? Firstly, our people are responsive and good, and secondly, how many children can still be helped!

    but about this news. always causes anger. but where are our bureaucrats from health care, where are the insurers (we are kind of all with policies) where is it all? only, damn it, and hope for the people. to hell with me such a state?
  • Evgeniy-111
    Evgeniy-111 23 August 2013 10: 32 New
    +3
    About three days ago, the Minister of Health of the region spoke on our regional radio (Stavropol). So, according to him, any negative information dumped on the people every day leads to increased stress, depression and suicide. Moreover, people of the most working and reproductive age (conducted psychological research). And, since it all went massively over the past six months (since the New Year 2013), it seems that this is all purposeful (to reduce the number of people). How not to turn on ANY news - killed, burned, flooded, stolen ...
    1. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 23 August 2013 13: 25 New
      +1
      yeah ... I also think that it would multiply more if not for the stress received from the media ... crying
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 23 August 2013 17: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Evgeniy-111
      How not to turn on ANY news - killed, burned, flooded, stolen ...

      If this news is a lie, then the claims are certainly to the media. If they are true, shouldn't the “ministers" have to make a complaint?
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 23 August 2013 10: 35 New
    +1
    Quote: optimist
    And the truth, as always, somewhere in the middle ... It all depends on what angle to look at any event.

    Everything in the world is relative! And for some, the bad news is not at all for others! But all the same, I would like more real positive, normal one for the majority of society who are rooting for their homeland, and not for those who are shaking their own pockets, and at all levels of development, and not to please society!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 23 August 2013 15: 59 New
      +4
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      And for some, the bad news is not at all for others!


      And this is true, I would love to know that in Russia for the pedophiles they would impose the death penalty, and not punishments of imprisonment for 3-5 years as in our most merciful for pedophiles CC
  • Belogor
    Belogor 23 August 2013 10: 41 New
    -1
    But how could it be otherwise; mostly the media are, to one degree or another, controlled by foreign structures and people who work on the “values” of the 90s work there. When Russia in the media space (and not only) was soaked from all sides. The active part of the Internet is the same or already their children. Now it’s somehow not “creative” to say something positive about the president, about the church, in the end about his country, otherwise friends and comrades will say that you are a Putinist, a sucker and generally a loser. Negativity usurped everything, full of his dictate
  • Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 23 August 2013 10: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Valery Neon
    Everyone sees what HE sees ... a glass is either half full ... or empty!

    ... or empty, but also half)) philosophy)
  • creak
    creak 23 August 2013 10: 53 New
    +6
    Quote: Kovrovsky
    So, instead of 3 million, almost 50 were transferred for the operation. Enough to help another 30 children! Whatever the good news? Firstly, our people are responsive and good, and secondly, how many children can still be helped!

    That's right, only 3 million is the price of one car for an official, whom we now have more than we had in the USSR ... It is a shame that ordinary people, honor to them, are forced to put a hat on in a circle to save sick children. Is there money for officials and salaries for officials, but no complicated operations? It turns out that only this caste is worthy of attention?
  • does it
    does it 23 August 2013 11: 03 New
    0
    Negatively colored materials literally occupied numerous media so that every day we hear about how poorly Russian gays and lesbians live
    I understand that! that on Military Review this topic is becoming popular. In the media I hear how badly or not very badly the citizens of the country and not only ours live. But that would be like that! turned over, THE FIRST TIME I READ ON on IN.
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 23 August 2013 11: 17 New
    +2
    Some kind of baby talk. You might think that if, following the example of the media in the USSR, everything is presented in a rainbow, people will not understand what is good and what is bad. A person judges the state of society not by what they show on TV, but by what surrounds him. The media can only accept or not accept the reasons for what is happening. And here everything is just “normal”, our media informs the population that if anyone is to blame for corruption, rising prices and other troubles, it’s the opposition, US white-collar mercenaries, and wading hamsters. All of the above is just created and nourished by the existing authorities, precisely in order to hang noodles on the ears of the people, distracting them from real problems.
    1. Evgeniy-111
      Evgeniy-111 23 August 2013 12: 49 New
      +2
      And since it is surrounded by a problem city or a ruined village, he will perceive the whole country in the same way!
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 23 August 2013 15: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: vladsolo56
      that if anyone is to blame for corruption, rising prices and other troubles, it’s the opposition, US white-collared mercenaries, and wading hamsters.


      Looks like I was wrong about you. +
  • Vladimir M.V.
    Vladimir M.V. 23 August 2013 11: 30 New
    +6
    as the news in the west


    For this is "Made with us"
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/
  • Diviz
    Diviz 23 August 2013 11: 44 New
    0
    It affects what the author wrote a psychologist. not relevant but popularized. then he will write a report on the work done and refer to this article. 30% are optimistic.
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 23 August 2013 12: 00 New
    -1
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    People, you really don’t understand that this very little thing, somewhere deeply, in the mentality of a Russian person, is the very corruption and craving for a freebie at all costs, from which you also groan?

    Are you Russian then? Somehow from the side you are expressing Russian. And then I know one people who are peculiar to this feature.
    1. regsSSSR
      regsSSSR 23 August 2013 16: 45 New
      0
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      People, you really don’t understand that this very little thing, somewhere deeply, in the mentality of a Russian person, is the very corruption and craving for a freebie at all costs, from which you also groan?

      Are you Russian then? Somehow from the side you are expressing Russian. And then I know one people who are peculiar to this feature.


      he’s just the real Russian living there, where even in a nightmare you don’t have the desire to go on vacation! !!


      Return_SSSR  May 27, 2013 08:35 | Siberians about Siberia and not only ....

      About patriotism
      “The farther east, the stronger the person’s temper” (C) So imagine the harsh Siberians, what kind of people live in Kamchatka, Chukotka, Fr. Sakhalin and the Kuril poisons .. Represented? Spin the globe in your hands?
      How do you think a person living in such conditions and shouting "Kul to you and not smoked!" Should love the motherland! When is the question of transferring the islands of Japan ???
      This is not a children's war game for you ...
      It’s even scary to imagine what a person capable of loving his life in such a country is capable of!
      I would think in the place of our enemies whether it would be worth going to Siberia and the Far East if, on the outskirts of Moscow, the enemy has been raking such craps throughout history that they are still afraid
      1. michajlo
        michajlo 23 August 2013 23: 35 New
        +3
        Good evening, dear Dmitry!

        You are absolutely right. I ask you to excuse me, I pressed the button incorrectly, it turned out to be a minus. Next time I’ll take a closer look.

        Best regards, Mikhailo!
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 23 August 2013 23: 56 New
          +3
          Quote: michajlo
          I beg you to excuse me, I pressed the button incorrectly,

          Correctable
        2. regsSSSR
          regsSSSR 24 August 2013 01: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: michajlo
          Good evening, dear Dmitry!

          You are absolutely right. I ask you to excuse me, I pressed the button incorrectly, it turned out to be a minus. Next time I’ll take a closer look.

          Best regards, Mikhailo!


          And good evening, Mikhailo!

          It's okay with no onehi
  • 6 sunrise 9
    6 sunrise 9 23 August 2013 12: 04 New
    0
    Well, no wonder, sometimes you listen to what people say and write.
    That compares the Russian Federation and Africa wassat
    They say that military equipment with Made in Russia is only in a single quantity in the troops.
    Corruption is only in the Russian Federation, nowhere else in the world.
    I even one "wise guy" said that we have 70% of the population starving.
    In general, the people have a decadent mood, especially judging by the Internet. No one sees good news, but everyone talks about bad news. Many people look at the geyropa and the United States; many listen to it so this is "earthly paradise" although they themselves have not been to these countries. Everyone says about the standard of living, about freedom, etc. Although the non-poor themselves.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 23 August 2013 15: 03 New
      +1
      The point is not only that what we have now, at first glance, everything seems to be fine, but at what cost? You do not think about the fact that prices are rising, utilities are growing. But at the same time, the government does not hide that there is not enough money for social services, that the budget is in short supply. How much do you think can go on. It was no further than yesterday that the topic was discussed that maternity capital is supposed to be abolished from the age of 16, and cut social spending. Before praising the current government, think about what awaits us in the near future, listen to what independent economic experts say about this. Gubanov, in my opinion, is already tired of explaining that with such an economic policy an inevitable collapse awaits us. But what will happen next in this case, I hope you do not need to explain.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 23 August 2013 15: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: vladsolo56
        But what will happen next in this case, I hope you do not need to explain.


        Of course not. Fool to teach that dead to treat.
      2. Garrin
        Garrin 23 August 2013 23: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: vladsolo56
        The point is not only that what we have now, at first glance, everything seems to be fine, but at what cost? You do not think about the fact that prices are rising, utilities are growing. But at the same time, the government does not hide that there is not enough money for social services, that the budget is in short supply.

        Yes, they would endure everything and their belts would tighten and understand everything and forgive, but against the background of total theft, a hand reaches for an ax. How long can I mock?
  • alone
    alone 23 August 2013 12: 07 New
    +2
    remembered the film "Watch out for cars"))

    it is necessary to give to the investigator's paw!
    what are you saying? he doesn't take
    you need to give so much to take))))

    golden words, and given the realities of our time, historical !!))))))))) hi
  • pensioner
    pensioner 23 August 2013 12: 14 New
    +4
    Thanks Alexey! One of the writers said that humanity becomes very inventive when it comes to pessimism ...
    And not to notice that the country is really rising is stupid ... Yes, not as fast as it could. Yes, the country's leadership does not always have enough political will ... But do we all know about the situation in the country's leadership? Do we know everything about the forces opposing Putin? Of course not. And the fact that the fifth column is not a myth, but a very real strength for me personally is obvious.
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