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Concentric State

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In the US, there are more than 600 concentration camps (according to other data - 800), completely ready to receive prisoners. All of them are staffed, in each full-time guards work. True, while all the camps are empty. When martial law is declared in the United States, these camps will be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency).


Concentric State


The camps were created in accordance with the Rex 84 program, which provides for a mass exodus of illegal immigrants from Mexico to the United States. It was planned to immediately surround illegal immigrants at the border and detain them. Then they should be sent to camps. In addition, Rex 84 allows the use of military bases as prisons.

"Rex 84" stands for "Readiness Exercise 1984" ("1984 Preparedness Teaching"). According to other sources, the program is about the alleged uprising of blacks in the United States, and the FEMA camps were intended for the maintenance of 21 million American blacks. They write in the American sector of the Internet that the “content centers” were built specifically for the revolutionary opposition and even ordinary critics of the system whom the government would consider dangerous for themselves.

Nowadays, railways and highways have been connected to all the camps - and the latter also lead to the nearest places of deprivation of liberty. There are airports near many camps.

Most camps are designed for 20000 prisoners. The largest of the "centers" is an object in Fairbanks (Alaska). In American blogs you can read that the Alaskan facility was created on the basis of a huge psychiatric institution and may contain about 2 million people. According to some reports, it is even about five million.

Also known object in Palmdale (California). The fences around this huge object stretch for miles. An embankment and moat surround the central territory of the camp - thanks to this, the object is not visible from the road. This is where a 100000 person can fit.

Another large camp is located in Glendale (also California). And the third is in the valley of San Fernando.

Americans who are interested in this topic are perplexed: prisons are overcrowded today, and prisoners are already set free because they do not have enough places. But what about all these objects? What should happen to the government involved hundreds of prepared camps with armed guards?

John Robles ("Voice of Russia") talked about eight hundred camps with Ken Adachi, the owner and editor-in-chief of the site educate-yourself.org, who found out something from his friend Ted Gunderson, who had been working for 27 for years at the FBI.

“The Crisis Management Agency was formed during the administration of Jimmy Carter in 1979, in the year when Ted resigned. FEMA began building camps in the early 1990s directly in the United States, Alaska, Hawaii, and other US territories scattered around the world. Ted was most active in the FEMA camps in the 1990s and in the 10 years, starting in the 2000 year. It was during these years that most of the camps were built. ”


Ted obtained information about the camps as a private investigator. In his articles, he wrote that FEMA has built over 800 internment centers. Some of them have accommodated millions of people from 2 to 5. For example, a camp located on an island off the coast of Alaska contained 5 millions. The government on this subject kept silent.

The centers are high security camps with high walls and barbed wire (the barbs are pointing inwards).

Adachi believes that the camps are designed for US citizens who do not want to support the "new world order." The United States, the journalist believes, is becoming a "fascist police state."

Information (not rumors) about Rex 84 was leaked to the press in 1987, when Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North responded to congressional biased questions about the high-profile Iran-Contra case. This was written in detail in the "Miami Herald" 5 July 1987 of North at that time served as assistant chief of the National Security Council of White House. During the interrogation revealed information about plans to create a "shadow government" in the United States - in the event of an "emergency".

Congressman Jack Brooks, for example, expressed concern during the interrogation that a plan had been drawn up in accordance with which the American Constitution would be suspended. He demanded that North confirm this information.

However, no response was received: it was about the secrecy of the program. (That is, the secrecy is so high that the basis of the program is hidden even from congressmen).

The Miami Herald reports that some of the high-level advisers to President Reagan worked for a “shadow government” that goes beyond traditional departments and departments. And so it was almost from the day Mr. Reagan took office. This is the conclusion made by the congressmen who conducted the investigation, as well as representatives of the presidential administration.

A reporter for the Miami Herald newspaper in 1987 suggested that the secret groups who then invented Rex 84 were created before the 1980 presidential election of the year and actively sabotaged the Jimmy Carter campaign.

The English-language “Wikipedia” describes “Rex 84” as a program developed by the United States federal government. Its tasks are: suspension of the US Constitution, declaration of martial law, transfer to the military of the full state and local government, the detention of a large number of American citizens, who are considered "a threat to national security." These measures are taken in the event that the president declares a “state of emergency”.

According to the FEMA website, since 1 March 2003, the Federal Emergency Management Agency has become part of the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS). In March of the same year, twenty-two other federal agencies and offices joined FEMA. A coordinated approach to the problem of national security was developed: now included both emergency situations and natural disasters, both natural and man-made.

The government will be on your side until it finds you helpful, an anonymous American sums up with sadness.

Information sources:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/con_camps_fema.htm
http://rus.ruvr.ru/2013_08_05/FEMA-stroit-konclagerja-dlja-millionov-amerikancev-0173/
http://ru.scribd.com/doc/24621067/Reagan-Aides-and-the-Secret-Government-The-Miami-Herald-July-5-1987
http://www.thepeopleshistory.net/2013/08/rex-84.html
http://www.tinfoilhattime.com/public_html/tinfoilhattime/2013/08/03/rex-84-blueprint-for-fema/


Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. T-100
    T-100 27 August 2013 07: 59 New
    20
    American Democratic Gulag))))
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 08: 07 New
      45
      FEMA camps were designed to contain 21 million American blacks.
      Sorry, but Obama is one of them?
      1. il grand casino
        il grand casino 27 August 2013 10: 08 New
        +2
        But Obama, he is not a Negro, in the case when everyone becomes black, he will remain African-American ... all people are free citizens of a democratic country, and the president is the freest of all)))
      2. Toporkoff
        Toporkoff 27 August 2013 11: 14 New
        +8
        "At my headquarters, I myself decide who is Jewish and who is not." Goering. will be something like this)
      3. smile
        smile 27 August 2013 13: 41 New
        0
        Alexander Romanov
        Hi!
        Regarding Obama, a preventive measure was applied - detention under house arrest in the White House, almost like a Taburetkin woman ... :)))
        And almost like her, Obama sometimes, slipping out of guard, gets out of the database to bargain around the shops or to get some fast-paced summit .... :)))
      4. alone
        alone 27 August 2013 23: 54 New
        0
        and he that purple chtoli?)))
      5. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 28 August 2013 00: 40 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        FEMA camps were designed to contain 21 million American blacks.
        Sorry, but Obama is one of them?


        He will apparently lead ...
    2. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 27 August 2013 11: 01 New
      15
      Everything is much simpler, they are preparing for a situation like ours in 91g. Only they decided to prevent the collapse of the United States, and unlike us they are all mold and other liberals, the rioters decided not to choose a congress and drive to camps and bury them quietly.
      1. anip
        anip 28 August 2013 05: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        Only they decided to prevent the collapse of the United States, and unlike us they are all mold and other liberals, the rioters decided not to choose a congress and drive to camps and bury them quietly.

        That's for sure. Amerovian democracy ends where the interests of the United States begin.
    3. Hemi cuda
      Hemi cuda 27 August 2013 13: 01 New
      +8
      Here a lion loves a lion
      Here the predator is sweet and meek,
      Long live our paradise !!!
      Paradise of cells and gratings ...
    4. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 27 August 2013 22: 12 New
      +3
      Pretty vile country this America. Apparently, every citizen of the USA at birth not only has an insurance number, but also a place in the camp.
  2. bomg.77
    bomg.77 27 August 2013 08: 02 New
    12
    are preparing for the collapse of the dollar. Know that this is inevitable!
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 27 August 2013 20: 30 New
      0
      Quote: bomg.77
      are preparing for the collapse of the dollar. Know that this is inevitable!

      They are preparing for revolution. Sooner or later, the people will begin to tear their heads off, that’s come in handy ..... and it says clearly, against the blacks!
  3. kord1215
    kord1215 27 August 2013 08: 09 New
    15
    The “New World Order” is a concentration camp, and not only for its own, but for the whole world.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 08: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: kord1215
      this is a concentration camp, and not only for their own, but for the whole world.

      Barbed wire is not enough to fit the whole world.
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 27 August 2013 12: 00 New
        +4
        at one time in the USSR joked "what is communism is socialism plus the electrification of the entire barbed wire" They apparently continue this joke - perfect capitalism
  4. Alez
    Alez 27 August 2013 08: 18 New
    +4
    First, they will drive their citizens to concentration camps, they will die of torment from hunger and disease. Then the democrats will look at other countries, you do not have democracy ??? Then to the concentration camp.
  5. minimum
    minimum 27 August 2013 08: 19 New
    -49
    a mote in someone else's eye is so annoying when there is a log) Russian courts give 98-99% of convictions, I think in such a repressive state it’s not quite smart to look for someone from the GULAGs)
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 27 August 2013 08: 43 New
      18
      pay for this in advance or in fact?
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 27 August 2013 11: 28 New
        12
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        pay for this in advance or in fact?


        Everything is bad there.
        Zadarma chases away.
        Maybe there is a dream to get to the "echo"? Or make friends with swonidze? One can only guess.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 08: 44 New
      10
      Quote: minimum
      the mote in the eyes of others is so annoying when the log is in itself)

      Have you been to the optometrist for the last time?
    3. schta
      schta 27 August 2013 09: 40 New
      18
      It’s immediately obvious that you are a person far from the judicial system. Because the prosecutor gives the case to court, being sure that he will prove the guilt of the suspect. If the prosecutor has not completed the case and there is no slaughter evidence, the case is “descended” and does not reach the court.
      these are the features of the Russian judicial system.
      and you, dear, I would advise you to understand your theses before shouting nonsense and slogans.
    4. avt
      avt 27 August 2013 10: 20 New
      +5
      Quote: minimum
      I think in such a repressive state, it’s not entirely smart to look for someone from the Gulag)

      And don’t talk! Surkovskaya propaganda! Ugh, already no, but what is it today? And not camps for the military, but tourist camps for scouts!
    5. Vasya Ivanov
      Vasya Ivanov 27 August 2013 10: 22 New
      +8
      In America there are more moral monsters and prisoners per capita than in Russia. See statistics. If it weren’t for the emigrants to the United States who remained criminals, they would have ... (like Makein) and downs. By the way, the percentage of people with mental disorders is the largest in the world.
    6. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 27 August 2013 11: 26 New
      +8
      Quote: minimum
      Russian courts issue 98-99% of convictions,


      First, compare how much is in the USA and how much in Russia.
      In totalitarian Russia, in which human rights are grossly violated, by the way, there is no death penalty (which is a pity), but in the light of world democracy - the United States is.
    7. tuts
      tuts 28 August 2013 06: 35 New
      0
      tyk is the whole thing and the trick is that the courts issue a sentence and put people on them, and put them in a concentration camp without trial or investigation and, accordingly, a sentence that indicates how much the convicted person will sit so that once in a concentration camp
      give up hope everyone coming here


      PS In this sense, in Tsarist Russia, the USSR, and the Russian Federation, there are no and no concentration camps, they are imprisoned exclusively by sentence.
  6. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 27 August 2013 09: 02 New
    +6
    This is an example of the best democracy in the world. Someone stubbornly takes an example from them.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 27 August 2013 18: 31 New
      0
      Personally, I’m only calmer from the knowledge that there are plans for an emergency, and these plans not only exist on paper, but are also provided materially.
      Another thing worries. In my memory in the United States there have been riots at least 3 times: in 1991 in the Crown Heights area of ​​New York, in 1992 in Los Angeles, and in 2005 in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. Never(!!!) there was no use of force against the rebels, nor mass arrests. Maybe because everyone rebelled 3 times Negros African Americans, and crushing them by force were considered politically incorrect. What level of violence is needed for the authorities to finally be scratched to use force?
  7. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 27 August 2013 09: 09 New
    +5
    Perhaps the Americans plan to massively use biological weapons (of course outside of America), and the camps are needed to organize quarantine of returning citizens and the “right” people.
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 27 August 2013 09: 24 New
      +2
      I also thought about it. It’s easier for them to gather a more or less civilized part of the population in such camps and wait out until the massacre throughout the rest of the country hi
      1. matross
        matross 27 August 2013 11: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: Landwarrior
        it’s easier to gather in such camps a more or less civilized part of the population and wait

        Doesn’t it bother you with “spikes inside”?
        1. vlad767
          vlad767 27 August 2013 12: 10 New
          +1
          Really. These camps are clearly built to hold inside, and not to protect against someone from outside.
        2. Landwarrior
          Landwarrior 27 August 2013 14: 30 New
          +2
          Quote: matRoss
          Doesn’t it bother you with “spikes inside”?

          Not at all. This photograph is probably just for clarity, but there is no specific reference, an indication that this is exactly one of the camps described in the article hi
          The links there are also especially slurred. Although the towers are kind of like inside the perimeter

          1. matross
            matross 27 August 2013 14: 48 New
            +1
            The centers are high security camps with high walls and barbed wire (the barbs are pointing inwards).
            This is a quote from an article. We're discussing the article, right? hi
            1. Landwarrior
              Landwarrior 27 August 2013 16: 39 New
              +3
              Right now, I ran through the article (which is by reference, and not which is here) - yes, there are foreseen examples of 3 camps (Palmdale, San Fernando and Brand Park) and all three have a spine that is called INWARD, that is, inside, so that yes, you are right.
              Eating a hat hi laughing
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 27 August 2013 23: 46 New
                +1
                Quote: Landwarrior
                Eating a hat


                I respect hi drinks
        3. Landwarrior
          Landwarrior 27 August 2013 14: 34 New
          0
          And here is a photo - in your cash desk - the tower looks inside the perimeter
  8. true love
    true love 27 August 2013 09: 33 New
    +3
    Quote: Alez
    First, they will drive their citizens to concentration camps, they will die of torment from hunger and disease. Then the democrats will look at other countries, you do not have democracy ??? Then to the concentration camp.


    Absolutely agree. The system of concentration camps worked out in the First World War and subsequent decades. The world financial elites, who actually order music, have been preparing for world control for a very long time and systematically. These are very smart people ... if you can call them that. They plan for decades, for a period when more than one generation will change. Example? Baptism of Russia. Of the ten millionth Kievan Rus after baptism, about three million remained. Destroyed all those who remembered their tribal covenants, who honored their gods. To do this, they needed to destroy ("democratize") the entire adult population. Which was done. Then the "theologians" entered into business, who skillfully manipulated "history" and the new morality. Nothing changes. Today, a new morality is the rejection of a traditional family. You can’t even just say "family", it has already come to the point of correcting that when a husband is a man, his wife is a woman, they have "normal" relationships from which children are born. All this is the result of the decline of morality and morality, which are systematically replaced by "expediency." The main reason why all this happens, my opinion, is a departure from the Divine principle. People imagine themselves to be Gods and are now ready to build the world at their discretion. And this applies not only to those in power, but also to the majority of the population who somehow support it. Silence is also support, it is tacit agreement with what is happening. Fear makes us silent. Fear is born from the thought that you are mortal. The divine principle says that the soul is eternal! So I have always been, and always will be! And my current situation is temporary, a person will still have to die. Then fear disappears. Death is inevitable. But this is not all; knowledge is needed, Divine knowledge, in order to live without fear, in order to resist this modern madness.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 27 August 2013 12: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: true love
      Baptism of Russia. Of the ten millionth Kievan Rus after baptism, about three million remained. Destroyed all those who remembered their tribal covenants, who honored their gods.

      True, you were not mistaken? In your accuracy and thirst for truth, you could give a alignment with an accuracy of at least up to thousands. After all, for sure you use archival data, not someone else's speculation.
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 27 August 2013 12: 43 New
      +5
      Quote: true love
      Example? Baptism of Russia. Of the ten millionth Kievan Rus after baptism, about three million remained.


      You can link to census data before and after baptism.

      Quote: true love
      Destroyed all those who remembered their tribal covenants, who honored their gods.


      Do you know how the Drevlyans had a rite of initiation of girls?
      Or that among the Slavic tribes the custom of blood feud reached such an intensity that the Caucasians still cry from envy in the corner?

      Quote: true love
      The main reason why all this happens, my opinion, is a departure from the Divine principle.


      You from dasa - Divine principle?

      Quote: true love
      People imagine themselves to be Gods and are now ready to build the world at their discretion.


      Reptiles people - flew into space!

      Quote: true love
      So I have always been, and always will be!


      And you are an optimist.

      Quote: true love
      But this is not all; knowledge is needed, Divine knowledge, in order to live without fear, in order to resist this modern madness.


      But I, a person who does not possess Divine knowledge, live without fear and death, I am not afraid of what I was convinced from my own experience, what is wrong with me?
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 27 August 2013 13: 11 New
        +5
        Quote: Karlsonn
        You from dasa - Divine principle?

        Das ist fiction !!!
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 27 August 2013 13: 56 New
          +3
          Quote: IRBIS
          Das ist fiction !!!


          flees with a howl ...
      2. washi
        washi 27 August 2013 16: 25 New
        +2
         Karlsonn (4)  Today, 12:43 ↑ New
        Quote: true love
        Example? Baptism of Russia. Of the ten millionth Kievan Rus after baptism, about three million remained.
        You can link to census data before and after baptism.
        Of more than 300 cities (hillforts), about 30 remain
        Quote: true love
        Destroyed all those who remembered their tribal covenants, who honored their gods.
        Do you know how the Drevlyans had a rite of initiation of girls?
        Or that among the Slavic tribes the custom of blood feud reached such an intensity that the Caucasians still cry from envy in the corner?
        The Russian truth (this is a set of laws) in the Internet is, read.
        And distinguish between the blood of a virgin and the blood of her corpse (we won’t go into intimate details)
        Quote: true love
        The main reason why all this happens, my opinion, is a departure from the Divine principle.
        You from dasa - Divine principle?
        Earlier in Russia, everyone considered themselves equal to the gods, their "relatives". Given modern trends, research: they were right. You are a god, but not a servant of God. There were no slaves in Russia. There were purchases, slaves, captives.
        Quote: true love
        People imagine themselves to be Gods and are now ready to build the world at their discretion.
        Reptiles people - flew into space!
        They imagined themselves above the gods. Away from nature, from the Earth. They forgot that you have to live in love and harmony with your planet.
        Quote: true love
        So I have always been, and always will be!
        And you are an optimist.
        And it already depends on what you believe in and how you die.
        Quote: true love
        But this is not all; knowledge is needed, Divine knowledge, in order to live without fear, in order to resist this modern madness.
        But I, a person who does not possess Divine knowledge, live without fear and death, I am not afraid of what I was convinced from my own experience, what is wrong with me?
        Even according to Christianity, man was created in the likeness of God. That is, every person is a god. Let in his small world, but he himself makes decisions
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 27 August 2013 17: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Vasya
          Of more than 300 cities (hillforts), about 30 remain


          Did you consider it yourself? Where is the photo?

          Quote: Vasya
          The Russian truth (this is a set of laws) in the Internet is, read.


          Remind you when and who introduced the "Russian Truth"?

          Quote: Vasya
          And distinguish between the blood of a virgin and the blood of her corpse (we won’t go into intimate details)


          Are you a pagan? Will you forcefully deflory your daughter?

          Quote: Vasya
          Earlier in Russia, everyone considered themselves equal to the gods, their "relatives".


          So what?

          Quote: Vasya
          You are a god, but not a servant of God. There were no slaves in Russia. There were purchases, slaves, captives.


          Yeah, the glade to the Khazars of the Drevlyans and Chud sold for slavery and vice versa - everything under paganism was simply wonderful. For treason, women were buried on the head in the ground, and often the dogs bit their heads.
          Your proud paganism is simply charming.

          Quote: Vasya
          They imagined themselves above the gods. Away from nature, from the Earth. They forgot that you have to live in love and harmony with your planet.


          When in a hut that is drowning in black move? To be closer to nature?
          By the way:
          - aren't you ashamed to use a computer? Shameful is the case for the son of God.

          Quote: Vasya
          And it already depends on what you believe in and how you die.


          I like the version with virgins in the afterlife, I can not help myself. repeat
          He went under death, of course, unpleasantly, but it happens worse.

          Quote: Vasya
          Even according to Christianity, man was created in the likeness of God. That is, every person is a god. Let in his small world, but he himself makes decisions


          Glory to the Buddha, at least in some ways we converge. drinks
          1. washi
            washi 27 August 2013 19: 36 New
            0
             Karlsonn (4)  Today, 17:50 ↑ New
            Quote: Vasya
            Of more than 300 cities (hillforts), about 30 remain
            Did you consider it yourself? Where is the photo?
            Do you think that in the 9-10th century Russia already had a photograph?
            I wrote that I read about it. I was not present at the forcible imprisonment of Russia, but I was present at the surviving rites (before the people fled to Siberia. These are modern in the pestropu)
            Remind you when and who introduced the "Russian Truth"?
            Or maybe he just restored that he was recognized as the rightful ruler?
            Are you a pagan? Will you forcefully deflory your daughter?
            Are you inclined to incest? And why forcibly? This still had to be earned. Therefore, they cherished virginity.
            Yeah, the glade to the Khazars of the Drevlyans and Chud sold for slavery and vice versa - everything under paganism was simply wonderful. For treason, women were buried on the head in the ground, and often the dogs bit their heads.
            Where did the details come from? Of course, I read that the Khazars (Jews) were in the principality of Kiev before the Rurikovichs came (they bought it stupidly, and he was a Scandinavian, that is, a sucker) and they introduced their own rules ... Among the Slavs, distinguish between the Jews and the orders.
            When in a hut that is drowning in black move? To be closer to nature?
            By the way:
            - aren't you ashamed to use a computer? Shameful is the case for the son of God.
            There is use, but there is use of the planet. If I also put some clay on the pipe, then no one will be offended. Silicon-based microcircuits i.e. sand. Did you get sand in your shoe?
            Glory to the Buddha, at least in some ways we converge.
            There is God, maybe not one (paganism arose not without reason) but Christianity, Islam, I consider State religions
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 27 August 2013 20: 38 New
              +3
              washi

              Learn to quote, please. There is no hunting to sort your text - the heap is small.
      3. old man54
        old man54 27 August 2013 18: 25 New
        0
        Quote: Karlsonn
        Quote: truthful example Baptism of Russia. Of the ten millionth Kievan Rus after baptism, about three million remained. You can link to census data before and after baptism.

        write stupid things with a serious face, I'm sorry! Otherwise I thought of you!hi
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 27 August 2013 20: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: old man54
          write stupid things with a serious face


          Dear you took a piece of text, which is a quote comrade washi so I can’t help you.
    3. smile
      smile 27 August 2013 13: 56 New
      +5
      true love
      Urgent medical examination!
      If in Russia before the construction of the Orthodox Auschwitz and Buchenwalds, where the evil Orthodox priests in the Budyonniks poisoned Cyclone B of pagan saints, and the divisions under the command of Ilya Muromets burned villages from flamethrowers and shot from the machine guns of the martyrs, four million people lived for faith, that would be very good. .. :)))) And where did you get another 6 million extra people? ... Well. those who became innocently killed for Perun, the prince and their native village? Can you imagine what it means to kill 7 million? ... There, the Germans in Belarus didn’t even manage ....
      This is precisely because, according to your data, we destroyed 70 percent of our population at that time Russia reached the peak of its power? .... which was not there while we were three times more .... are you sure that the concept " common sense "is not alien to you ... or rather, not even antagonistic? :))))
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 27 August 2013 15: 07 New
        +3
        Quote: smile
        true love
        Urgent medical examination!


        It doesn’t work, he writes to us from a neighboring galaxy, and that’s not what happened there.
        The truth is, I'm wondering:
        - How can I roll 6 000 000 melee weapons?
        - who actually featured people, - military priests? princely squad? 6 000 000?
        - where did the wood come from, that in Russia at that time 10 000 000 lived? certificate from the passport office came?
        1. smile
          smile 27 August 2013 15: 24 New
          +3
          Karlsonn
          :)))) "fighting priests" :))))))) killed !!!!! :))))
          But he definitely has a certificate ... only not from the passport office, and not even from Zheka .... :)))). we know where such neighboring galaxies are located ... from there both aliens and Napoleons reveal universal secrets to us ... while the orderlies go out for a smoke break ... :)))
          1. washi
            washi 27 August 2013 18: 43 New
            0
            Read about the development of Christianity in the Roman Empire.
            At first, they voluntarily enlisted in gladiators (suicide is a sin), then they began to create military units to bring the Gentiles to the true faith. (nothing reminiscent of?)
            1. smile
              smile 27 August 2013 20: 19 New
              +2
              washi
              And you do not find that the mentality of the people means more than the religion in which they have christened it ... now compare:
              The Europeans, under the banner of Christ, sent wherever their paws reach, their wild hordes of crusaders, in order to carry faith and rob and enslave with fire and sword ... - we are not. Tens of thousands of Europeans burned heretics and witches, and secular authorities burned even more than ecclesiastical ones ... over the centuries, almost millions have been counted ... entire cities have been depopulated .... we are not ... or rather there are several cases, but this is extremely rare, isolated cases (and everything was documented, just like in Europe. where it was all left in the archives too), and hell knows when ... European priests traded indulgences, we don’t ...
              Why would our priests, who, according to the comrade, have committed a monstrous crime, having destroyed the non-existent two-thirds of our population in the shortest possible time, suddenly thought better of it? Can you imagine, in order to kill so many people, you would have to build gigantic death camps and kill people there around the clock for years .... this is already beyond the bounds ... and how, by the way, to combine the rise in the strength and influence of the state with total depopulation? Only those. that this is a blatant lie ... here we have an example of Cambodia, where Pol Pot destroyed much less than two-thirds ... that Kampuchea was greatly strengthened and hit all the neighbors in the neck? :)))
              And the last ... what does the early Christians of Europe have to do with the Christians of Russia. after a thousand years completely different methods ... if there is mention of at least one detachment of our military priests. burned at least one city, in the name of Christ, tell me ... who made the decision at the highest level, who is the commander, where they were based, the name of the city, the date ... and how they found out. :)))
            2. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 27 August 2013 23: 49 New
              +1
              Quote: Vasya
              Read about the development of Christianity in the Roman Empire.


              Read about Alexander Peresvet, you will discover a lot for yourself.
        2. IRBIS
          IRBIS 27 August 2013 15: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: Karlsonn
          - where did the wood come from, that in Russia at that time 10 000 000 lived? certificate from the passport office came?

          Deacon Jacob wrote the manuscript and conducted the census tirelessly, like the devil, and he bequeathed the manuscript with the census to his son ancestor with the words: "Take care of your hand, Senya ...!"
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 27 August 2013 17: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: IRBIS
            Deacon Jacob wrote the manuscript and conducted the census tirelessly,


            Falsification !!! Everything on the Swamps ... pah-on the Maidan !!!
        3. washi
          washi 27 August 2013 16: 31 New
          -1
          It's not about quantity, but quality.
          Either there were free people or they were turned into slaves, even God's
          And then complaints: I want democracy
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 27 August 2013 17: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Vasya
            It's not about quantity, but quality.
            Either there were free people or they were turned into slaves, even God's


            Not a fig!
            Written with a pen - you can’t cut it down with an ax!
            Kamrad said about 10 000 000 and about 6 000 000 corpses - let him prove it, otherwise drain and the title of a liar. bully
      2. washi
        washi 27 August 2013 16: 30 New
        0
        I read one of the versions: there was no yoke. There was a struggle between Christianity and the so-called paganism.
        For the state, Christianity is more beneficial, which denies the human person. Everyone should worship the one god and his representatives on earth: the church and the king, the anointed of God.
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 27 August 2013 17: 56 New
          0
          Quote: Vasya
          I read one of the versions: there was no yoke.


          And I read the version about whales, elephants and a turtle. wink
          By the way, there are no American continents, this is a Masonic fake.
          1. washi
            washi 27 August 2013 18: 45 New
            -1
            They really did not exist as independent continents. The Bering Strait relatively recently formed.
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 27 August 2013 20: 43 New
              +2
              Quote: Vasya
              They really did not exist as independent continents.


              Do you believe in turtles, elephants and whales?
        2. Flooding
          Flooding 27 August 2013 18: 35 New
          0
          Quote: Vasya
          For the state, Christianity is more profitable, which denies the human person

          Prove that it is. The Bible says that the Lord created man in the image and likeness of HIS. You understand? Looks like no.
          What does pagan tradition say, or rather its modern interpretation?
          I read something about a washcloth ... Remind me, please.

          Quote: Vasya
          All must worship the one god and his representatives on earth.

          Lies, arrogant and shameless unknowing person. Where does the church need to be worshiped? Where is it written that the king is the representative of God on earth?
          What nonsense are you talking about!
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 27 August 2013 20: 44 New
            +2
            Quote: Flood
            Prove that it is. The Bible says


            SchA neo-pagans trample us. wassat
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 27 August 2013 20: 54 New
              +2
              Quote: Karlsonn
              Scha neo-pagans trample us

              Not the first time. I have already got corns from their heels.
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 27 August 2013 23: 50 New
                +2
                Quote: Flood
                Not the first time. I have already got corns from their heels.


                And you are entertainers. wassat
              2. smile
                smile 28 August 2013 00: 23 New
                +1
                Flooding
                You are more careful with the pagans ... :))))). Karlsonn told me there below that not only are they nuts, they are also perverts and pedophiles, and go with suspicious wooden products ... :))))) you never know where corns can come from them :)))) people...:))))
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding 28 August 2013 08: 50 New
                  +2
                  Quote: smile
                  Karlsonn told me there below that not only are they nuts, they are also perverts and pedophiles, and they go with suspicious wooden products ... :)))))

                  Thanks for the warning. I'll be on the alert. So far, especially dangerous have not met.
            2. smile
              smile 27 August 2013 20: 55 New
              +3
              Karlsonn
              Nah, they won’t trample, they’ll bring a sacrifice and eat the liver, it was customary for some .... and then they will hold some kind of rite of passage for the Drevlyansk girl .... :))) there, above, they scared us .... :)) ) I was even afraid to ask what he consisted of, they will suddenly answer, and then I can’t fall asleep at night ... :)))
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 27 August 2013 23: 57 New
                +2
                Quote: smile
                Nah, they won’t trample it, they’ll bring a sacrifice and they will devour the liver, for some it was taken ....


                Well, neopagans have every chance during the process and get into their liver. winked

                Quote: smile
                and then they will hold some kind of rite of passage for the drevlyanskoy girl .... :))) there, above, they scared us .... :))) I was even afraid to ask what it was, they would suddenly answer, and then I would fall asleep at night I can not...:)))


                Drevlyans teenage girls initiated as follows:
                - on the temple there was a wooden sculpture of the primary sexual, male character, in a hypertrophied form, the girls were planted on it, afterwards there was an orgy. recourse
                By the way, the spring holiday, well, there, too, jumping over the bonfire ended in orgies (like all pagan holidays), that's why when I see a pagan I immediately get worried.
    4. washi
      washi 27 August 2013 16: 07 New
      0
       true love
      It deserves a separate article and discussion.
      But in this case, a little off topic.
      If you write an article about the forcible adoption of Christianity in Russia, the regular extermination by the Christians of the population of Russia, the disrespect by the modern churchmen of the Russian people, etc., I will support you if it is published.
      1. matross
        matross 27 August 2013 17: 28 New
        +3
        Quote: Vasya
        If you write an article

        Quote: Vasya
        I will support you if it is published

        Before embarking on the opuses from the life of Ancient Russia, it would be nice for comrade PravdaAlyub to learn how to write his own nickname without grammatical errors!
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 27 August 2013 18: 35 New
          0
          For the state, Christianity is more beneficial, which denies the human person. Everyone should worship the one god and his representatives on earth: the church and the king, the anointed of God.


          Hmm, how consistent is the concept of monotheism for the beginning of the XNUMXth century on the territory of Medieval Russia? Let's just say that even if the concept of Russia did not apply to this entire territory inhabited by various tribes, Slavs, Finno-Ugrians, Prussians? And how do you explain to Princess Olga the concept of a human person?
          1. smile
            smile 27 August 2013 20: 25 New
            +1
            Ka-52
            "And how do you explain to Princess Olga the concept of a human person?"

            "You almost offended the noblewoman? !!!" :)))
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 27 August 2013 20: 45 New
              +2
              Quote: smile
              "You almost offended the noblewoman? !!!" :)))


              The noblewoman will not give herself an insult, it just burns right away. wink
              1. smile
                smile 27 August 2013 21: 01 New
                +2
                Karlsonn
                Oh, I like women who are able to fend for themselves ... :)))
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 27 August 2013 23: 58 New
                  +1
                  Quote: smile
                  Oh, I like women who are able to fend for themselves ... :)))


                  It's cool that Olga was a Christian, which did not stop her from brutally executing her fellow tribesmen.
                  1. smile
                    smile 28 August 2013 02: 42 New
                    0
                    Karlsonn
                    You might think that this once disturbed someone ... :))) There, some of our neighbors from the West and the South - their faith, on the contrary, really helped .... moreover, it gave rise to bleeding and blessed ... . :)))
          2. washi
            washi 27 August 2013 20: 47 New
            -1
            Princess Olga from another time period.
            And Slavic tribes are the territory of all Europe, with minor exceptions.
            Celts and those recognized by the Slavs. Then everyone had a fight (again, all because of religion and corruption of leadership) and off it went.
            Maybe Europe climbs to us because of its not full value?
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 27 August 2013 23: 59 New
              +2
              Quote: Vasya
              Celts and those recognized by the Slavs.


              Porridge should be in the pot, not in the head.
    5. old man54
      old man54 27 August 2013 18: 23 New
      -1
      Quote: true love
      The system of concentration camps worked out in the First World War and subsequent decades. The world financial elites, who actually order music, have been preparing for world control for a very long time and systematically. These are very smart people ... if you can call them that.

      Yes, I don’t like the hangouts of the regulars in VO that you, dear wrote, alas! request Already the "-" minus you are sick of! It is difficult to take the truth right away and admit to them that it turns out a lot, what they believed in, it is a lie and a deceit!
      You from me "+" of course!
  9. schta
    schta 27 August 2013 09: 42 New
    +3
    I think that concentration camps will go for prisoners in the future hot phase of the war, as well as for patients of the "local Gestapa."
  10. minimum
    minimum 27 August 2013 09: 48 New
    -15
    Quote: schta
    it is clear that you are a person far from the judicial system.

    a respected person who is not far from the judicial system, no matter how you manipulate or justify the judicial system - this is a repressive apparatus, stamping sentences, that's all. There is no judicial system in Russia. and in such circumstances, someone takes the audacity to write something about the United States, really funny. fixing "patriots" in America with so many problems in Russia is alarming)
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 27 August 2013 11: 41 New
      +5
      Quote: minimum
      no matter how you manipulate or justify the judicial system - this is a repressive apparatus, stamping sentences, that's all.


      From thanks! They opened our eyes. bully
      One of the main features of the state is the presence of coercive organs and punitive organs.

      Quote: minimum
      There is no judicial system in Russia.


      It may not be in your head, but that does not mean that it is.

      Quote: minimum
      and in such circumstances, someone takes the audacity to write something about the United States


      Please tell me what impudence!
      As soon as Oleg dared ...
      You encroach, you see, at the most sacred, - at the USA!
      nizabudimnimproim !!!!!

      Escape to the nearest US embassy, ​​let them send the Sixth Fleet.

      Quote: minimum
      really funny. fixation of "patriots" in America


      And the fixation of the entire democratic world on domestic buggers is ridiculous?

      Quote: minimum
      with so many problems in Russia - this is alarming)


      Contact the administration, say that this article deeply bothered and offended you.
    2. washi
      washi 27 August 2013 18: 48 New
      -1
      The judiciary is a proceeding to acquit a criminal.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 27 August 2013 20: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: Vasya
        The judiciary is a proceeding to acquit a criminal.


        What a mess in your head ---.
      2. smile
        smile 27 August 2013 21: 05 New
        +2
        washi
        Rrrrazrazon all courts immediately! ... :))) without the courts will do! :))) at the same time take an interest in the percentage of acquitted and convicted ... :)))
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 28 August 2013 00: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: smile
          Rrrrazrazon all courts immediately! ... :))) without the courts will do! :))) at the same time take an interest in the percentage of acquitted and convicted ... :)))


          Only hardcore !!! This is where I, as a hereditary security officer, will turn around bully BU-HA-HA !!! Interestingly, the later hasn’t left yet?
  11. grafrozow
    grafrozow 27 August 2013 10: 11 New
    0
    FEMA camps were designed to contain 21 million American blacks.
    How many guards do you need, to feed all the products? It seems to me that this is not real, where will the amers take so much money? They can scare them, but in reality ...
    1. nbw
      nbw 27 August 2013 10: 55 New
      +3
      And who said that they would feed there? wassat To carry out construction work of such a volume in order to “scare” someone? Hardly.
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 27 August 2013 11: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: grafrozow
      This is how many guards do you need to feed everyone?


      By the way, the same thought arose when reading:
      - guard and feed 5 000 000 people? belay
      I can not believe in such camps.
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 27 August 2013 13: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: Karlsonn
        By the way, the same thought arose when reading:
        - guard and feed 5 000 000 people? belay
        I can not believe in such camps.

        The same garbage! I figured it out myself, I turned to the German sources of the time of the war on this issue - not really! Both contain and guard. The journalist obviously confused something or simply re-created.
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 27 August 2013 14: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: IRBIS
          I figured it out myself, I turned to the German sources of the time of the war on this issue - not really! Both contain and guard.


          This is taking into account the fact that the Germans had a conveyor belt in the death camps — some were soaked, burned, and the next were driven. At the same time, the Germans did not keep millions in camps.
        2. Rudy
          Rudy 27 August 2013 14: 29 New
          +1
          Well, you don’t believe it in vain; unfortunately, with the “right approach” it is by no means a problem. There is also infa that in these production camps there are all kinds of truths that are still not working. The problem is solved, you are working, you will get a ration; no, you are starving. Such a bunch of people is not a single mass, but many separate groups of people with absolutely opposite views on life and each other. Also, for sure, there will be a different criminal element there. As a result, you can get by with a minimum of security by creating a couple of gangs in the camp and providing them with secret support of the camp guards who will fight for power, for obtaining various privileges and goodies from the guards, at the same time keeping everyone else in check and making them work. There will certainly be a mobile spetsnaz for the hard suppression of discontented, rebellious, or overrepresented gangs. Moreover, the camps can be divided, so in one camp Latinos or Negroes or Nazis predominate, who will not cut their own and people who are afraid to get into their own camp will become silk and obedient. And they cultivate the land by cultivating crops and producing goods, all for soldering food and the opportunity to live, and for being able to sit quietly without excesses and gulping one's throat with one's neighbors, and even for the opportunity to get up they’ll break into a cake. Man generally a flexible animal quickly adapts to changes and accepts them. There was such a thing in the Gulag that there were only a few envdeshiks in the camp, and the rest were convicts, and quite officially there were security convicts. And nothing the camp did not run up, worked, the guards guarded. It is not in vain that zones were created in our country where they are led by “knocked-over” or red zones, where convicts collaborated with the administration and black zones, where the thieves were supposed to be kept by thieves who allegedly didn’t contact the administration, although if they had wanted power and the administration all the blatata would have been suppressed from the floor. Psychology is all this, the covert knows in the black zone he is completely tin to death, and the refusal thief also knows that he will not survive on the red one, either they will break or kill him. And everyone keeps order in fear of getting to strangers. Separate and conquer and people themselves will help to keep themselves in check.
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 27 August 2013 15: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: Rudy
            Well, you don’t believe it in vain. Unfortunately, with the “right approach” is by no means a problem.


            5 000 000 is Kiev, can you imagine how much the population of Kiev eats and drinks in a day?
            it's hundreds of tons.
            1. Rudy
              Rudy 27 August 2013 16: 37 New
              +1
              And who said that many will feed them immediately. And the city of Kiev consumes as much as it wants, and not as much as they give. And this is hundreds of times less. Surely there will be filtration first, where they will not be fed at all, so that less violent steels are also starving. So feeding is not the most important factor in this and then why did you decide that the US has no food supplies. Life in a country with camps in operation does not end. And the farmers will remain who will work on the land and enjoy the free labor of the prisoners. Providing the need for both the camps and the guards and the rest, they will work all the same, they will work anyway, but on the other side of the thorn.
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 27 August 2013 18: 09 New
                +2
                Quote: Rudy
                And the city of Kiev consumes as much as it wants, and not as much as they give. And this is hundreds of times less.


                We multiply 200 grams of bread and a liter of water by 5 000 000, as a transport worker, I am interested to see which delivery scheme you offer.


                Quote: Rudy
                So feeding is not the most important factor in this and then why did you decide that the US has no food supplies.


                As a child, I lived in Kolyma next to the zone and I know how the protection and maintenance of a couple of three hundred convicts is ensured.
                Sorry, but 5 000 000 is beyond good and evil.
                A simple question by feeding:
                - How many divisions will guard this camp? How many people will be at the delivery of goods and transportation of prisoners? Suppose we drove the first million for a thorn, the second and third will sit and wait for their turn? Do not forget about the weapons in the hands of the population. National Guard when scatter? What about the army?
                I mean, what will be the stability of the troops against the background of the fact that the soldiers will not know their relatives already or not.

                looks carefully
                1. Rudy
                  Rudy 27 August 2013 21: 13 New
                  -1
                  First of all, please carefully read the article again, and my comments please again.

                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  We multiply 200 grams of bread and a liter of water by 5 000 000, as a transport worker, I am interested to see which delivery scheme you offer.


                  Multiplied received 10000 tons of bread and 5000 tons of water. Now we divide by the number of camps from 600 to 800 it turns out from 1 to 12 to 17 tons of bread and water from 6 to 8 tons per camp. It turns out 5 gazelles for bread and 2 gazelles for water. Since you are a transporter, you decide how to organize it. Also do not forget that it is scattered throughout the country, and the railways are also suitable for some camps. I saw about a piece of iron in a film that was shot by their comrades on this topic. Real corps showed real fences with missing prisoners, but several such camps showed real guards. As for water, most likely there will be own sources of water there. It was built soundly, I think they should have taken care of the sewer and water supply.

                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  As a child, I lived in Kolyma next to the zone and I know how the protection and maintenance of a couple of three hundred convicts is ensured.

                  I, too, was born and raised in a small town in which there is a strict security colony, although it’s been about 10 years that they made it common, accommodating about several thousand people. True, here in the European part of Russia, I did not see any serious problems to ensure it. And protection on average about a hundred people.

                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  Sorry, but 5 000 000 is beyond good and evil.

                  According to general data, the number of prisoners in the United States is more than 2,2 million people, although the prisons are overcrowded at the same time, but nothing can be done with security and food. Also, private companies in the United States make extensive use of prison labor. Moreover, convicts receive from them an average of $ 2,5 per hour per hour, with half being taken away for their maintenance and the second being put into the account. Where over 2 million are kept without labor and tension they can keep another 5 million using their cheap labor. By the way, more than 90% of the entire assembly tool market in the USA is made by prisons, plus 50% of military uniforms are the same and much much more. So if there really are so many camps and they will be filled, THAT THIS will be, first of all, commerce for the use of cheap labor, and they will make the same money to support the camps. By the way, the USA is the first exporter of food products in the world, and the share of people employed in agriculture is only 4% of all people who work. In the United States, according to official statistics, more than 315 million people have very strict legislation and it’s possible to get 5 million found quite legitimate grounds for this, especially in mass protests, and even with weapons, which is forbidden by the way, the remaining 310 million is even simpler. also support at the same time and die down not wanting to get there. And nothing the guard will feel fine, but the evil will be afraid to get there as a camp. Nobody will run anywhere, but on the contrary they will hold on to their places. Since they will become untouchable to a certain extent. And one million and two and three will sit on the ass, hoping that they will take away their neighbor and even knock, hoping that they will not be touched by such good ones. And the US army is also contractual, where the percentage of people serving for citizenship or hiding from prison is very high, so they will zealously vacate seats in the country.
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 28 August 2013 00: 08 New
                    0
                    Quote: Rudy
                    Multiplied received 10000 tone of bread and 5000 tons of water.


                    This is a day.

                    Quote: Rudy
                    Now we divide by the number of camps from 600 to 800 it turns out at 1 camp from 12 to 17 tons of bread and water from 6 to 8 tons.


                    What do you share if we talk about camps with over one million people?

                    Quote: Rudy
                    Since you are a transporter, you decide how to organize it. Also do not forget that it is scattered throughout the country, and railways are also suitable for some camps.


                    I, as a transport worker, ask how you can ensure uninterrupted supplies of 10 000 tons of bread and 5 000 tons of water daily, taking into account the fact that trains travel with railroad prisoners and trains must be sent back on time? There is not a Moscow railway station in the zone, this Zekovsky stop station will simply drown in trains. I am generally silent about the distribution of bread and water.
                    1. Rudy
                      Rudy 28 August 2013 03: 21 New
                      0
                      For you personally, I’m copying the beginning of the article: “There are more than 600 concentration camps in the USA (800 according to other sources), which are completely ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed, security guards work in each full-time job. True, while all the camps are empty. a declaration of martial law in the United States, these camps will be operated by the FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency). " And with you I spoke specifically about them, but not like not about millionaires, where I didn’t think of it. I have never written or mentioned the million-plus camps, the total number of people - yes. My only advice before commenting on the essence of the comment is to read and clarify, not fantasize. As for the water, I repeat, it’s not necessary to carry it, the camp may have its own source of water. And another quote: “Nowadays, railways and highways have been brought to all camps, the latter leading to the closest places of deprivation of liberty. There are airports near many camps.” that is, the transport component has already been taken care of there. As for millionaires, it is probably a journalistic exaggeration in order to catch fear or the inspector himself from fright betrayed this. Although I would not bet that it’s not possible. What humanity has learned well is to exterminate and spread rot for their own kind. As for the million-plus camps, it seems that the refugee camps in Africa came to mind a million people, but here most likely it’s not true

                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      You're lying. 100 soldiers and officers guard several thousand?
                      Lies. This does not happen in the zone.


                      Before you blame someone for lying, give specific numbers and convincingly prove that the person is wrong. Judging by your remark, you do not have any idea about the state of affairs in the correctional system; moreover, you did not visit the colony itself either. I somehow went on an excursion, it was true a long time ago in the late 90s, when the city administration held legal courses with us and we were introduced and told about the work of the administration in managing the internal affairs of the police and in connection with the presence of the colony. So the strength of the operations department, for example, for 2000 people should be about 20 employees on average, but for the security department, the “Staff strength of security departments (excluding dog training groups and ITO groups, communications and weapons) is set individually for each colony depending on the volume services based: 6,23 posts per one day post. " In the colony of my city, by the way, I do not say that there were exactly a hundred people and more, there were fewer and quite often there were not enough people and nothing could be done. Maybe it’s different for you, but I'm talking about a specific example. I also had in mind the composition of the guard, excluding the administrative-managerial and economic departments, these yes, in my personal opinion there were two times more than the real guards. So the respected 600-800 camps for up to 10000 people each are quite real. Moreover, all this will be commercialized in order to make a profit. At one time, labor standards and trade unions of the company brought their production to other countries from high salaries, it is possible they decided to return in this way, since the protection of labor does not particularly apply to convicts.
                  2. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 28 August 2013 00: 15 New
                    0
                    Quote: Rudy
                    though it’s been 10 years ago that they made it common, accommodating about several thousand people. True, here in the European part of Russia, I did not see any serious problems to ensure it. And protection on average about a hundred people.


                    You're lying. 100 soldiers and officers guard several thousand?
                    Lies. This does not happen in the zone.
          2. washi
            washi 27 August 2013 18: 52 New
            0
            And this is in the non-human, tuned to suppress the identity of the Gulag. and IN FREE AMERICA, WHERE A TAMPER IS A TAMPER, there is no one to guard the poor and homeless. That's why they conclude an agreement with the Ministry of Emergencies
  12. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 27 August 2013 10: 34 New
    +2
    Than talk about what I can and what Americans can not remember the camps of World War 2 in the United States. There, without trial, and without any reason whatsoever, hundreds of thousands of foreigners and even U.S. citizens (of Japanese and other origin) sat throughout the war. So nothing new, but a continuation of hateful politics!
  13. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 27 August 2013 10: 36 New
    0
    Quote: minimum
    a mote in someone else's eye is so annoying when there is a log) Russian courts give 98-99% of convictions, I think in such a repressive state it’s not quite smart to look for someone from the GULAGs)

    A must at least twice as much! Look around, if you do not count your criminals, then ethnic, this is 9 out of 10, plant-do not want to!
  14. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 27 August 2013 10: 43 New
    +3
    This is true American democracy and freedom! They then inhabit it all over the planet! Perfect American democracy, the whole world behind barbed wire (except for the American rich) - the twin of "democracy" in German, mid-century!
  15. Buran
    Buran 27 August 2013 10: 52 New
    +1
    Where are the ovens? Gas chambers? Well this is not serious. Looks like post-war annotations were bad when the former SSvtsev, hidden from the Soviet court, were questioned.
    1. vkrav
      vkrav 27 August 2013 11: 28 New
      +3
      They don’t write about the stove yet ... But the coffins have already been prepared wink :
      http://www.krugozormagazine.com/show/plastikovie_grobi.636.html
      This FEMA is either preparing for an epidemic, or some sort of revolution ... Or they just think that the dofig population has something to do with this laughing
  16. Svyatoslavovich
    Svyatoslavovich 27 August 2013 11: 05 New
    +4
    Not surprisingly for Western civilization, Britain created the first concentration camps during the Boer War. The segregation of the colored population in the United States ended only at the end of the 20th century (conditionally). The law on compulsory selection of Roma children is valid in Switzerland until 1973, and the law on compulsory sterilization of Roma in Sweden until 1976, etc. etc.
    Any state representative of Western civilization can easily argue with any dictatorship in matters of bloodthirstiness, the difference will be only in slogans and masks.
  17. lexe
    lexe 27 August 2013 11: 28 New
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    I don’t understand the grins like a democratic "Gulag" ...
    But what if there is a bacteriological threat? If this threat is then the American people of free will! will move to places with minimal amenities laughing Yes, and with free security laughing
    All the same, the United States, in any situation, wants to survive and win ... it inspires respect. There is no hatred (like let us throw the whole world with tomahawks and drones) in the states. And there is reason for us to think about whether our retaliatory strike would be unacceptable to them .. .
    Now, if they close their possible camps, then yes ... there will probably be parity. laughing
    1. Buran
      Buran 27 August 2013 16: 30 New
      +1
      If the US will try to use biological weapons globally, then the answer on our part is nuclear weapons. So these same camps will turn into a common grave.
      Films, books and toys about the post apocalypse made a dumb herd of people. Well, how to explain, after nuclear weapons there will be nothing and nobody. No bunkers and geckos will help.
      1. lexe
        lexe 27 August 2013 21: 50 New
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        There are estimates that with a successful US preventive strike against Russia, 90% of our nuclear weapons can be destroyed, such as a repeat of 1941.
        Films, books and toys about the post apocalypse made a dumb herd of people. Well, how to explain, after nuclear weapons there will be nothing and nobody. No bunkers and geckos will help.

        Do you think that it is impossible to survive and win a nuclear war?
        It’s possible ... if the missiles fly mostly in one direction. And catching a couple of nuclear plumes at the same time ... just gets rid of densely populated cities (with crowds of loafers)
        So nuclear weapons are not a panacea. In addition, covert developments are underway to disinfect the area.
        As soon as a scientific result is achieved, the temptation to use nuclear weapons will be very great.
        1. Buran
          Buran 27 August 2013 22: 34 New
          +2
          To catch a couple of three ... For a global environmental catastrophe, a couple is enough, and in a total war, life will be restored, a couple of thousand years later. And all the tales of super interceptors, just chewing gum for the layman and a reason to cut the budget. Regarding the disinfection, something Fukushima and Chernobl are not very cleaned.
          And, yes, I believe that there will be no winners in a nuclear war! There will be no one.
          1. lexe
            lexe 27 August 2013 22: 59 New
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            Buran, and after all, China underground also has its own human hardships ... in fact, the whole infrastructure has been created.
            and in a total war, the living will be restored, in a couple of thousand years.

            a little more than 100 years ago, mankind did not know what a plane is ...
            If there is a goal to change the WORLD- they’ll go to war without hesitation. Nuclear war is the best shock for people (thanks to past propaganda, like chewing gum laughing) .And in a state of shock, a person is able to accept any changes in social life that are offered to him. (Complete shutdown)
            After the shocks of 2 world wars, mankind has amazingly changed in social foundations.
            1. Buran
              Buran 28 August 2013 08: 57 New
              +1
              The use of 50 charges of equal power charges applied in Hiroshima will lead to a "small ice age". These 50 charges are just 0,3 percent of the world's arsenal. What will happen after applying all stocks ...
              Nuclear winter for about ten years. Dust, ashes and various emissions will block access to sunlight. Endless acid rain. Radiation. The planet’s seismic activity will increase many times, so even those who hide in the depths of some ores will remain there. All world wars are just games in the sandbox. This is not a shock, this is a grave.
    2. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 27 August 2013 17: 52 New
      +1
      lexeI thought so too, but! The thorn is turned inward, i.e. so that from there did not come out, and not to there did not climb
      1. lexe
        lexe 27 August 2013 21: 36 New
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        almost every American has a trunk. Tell me how are they going to put people armed to the teeth in concentration camps? Logic tells us that at first it would be nice to remove them, but they won’t do it either.
        The spine is turned inward

        Anglo-Saxons generally masters of disguise ponimash laughing
        So his opinion has not changed.
        Like in that movie, they secretly create ships laughing (human caches)
        1. Landwarrior
          Landwarrior 27 August 2013 21: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Lexi
          Share how is it they are going to blame people in the concentration camps armed to the teeth?

          Well, how did they bake all Americans of Japanese descent in concentration camps in the 40s? wink And what can a civilian with a pistol be against a well-armed and trained soldier with an automatic rifle? laughing Just get ready - there will be mincemeat wassat
          And I think you must agree, it’s not enough to have a weapon, you must be able to use it. wink The presence of the trunk does not solve anything if you are not ready to use it ... Somehow. hi
          1. lexe
            lexe 27 August 2013 22: 29 New
            +1
            There is nothing I agree with you. But who will make this stuffing? -American ... and not zombies, and a completely massive refusal to execute the order is possible.
            Well, or the Latvians with the "iron" division will help. bully
            And the culture of gun ownership in the states did not stop like ours after 1917. So not only guns will go in. Plus, they can very well be organized at the local level, it’s time for them to spit.
            It will be a war ... and not the dispersal of a passive crowd.
            1. Landwarrior
              Landwarrior 27 August 2013 23: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: Lexi
              But who will make this stuffing? -American ... and not zombies, and a massive rejection of the order is possible.

              They have a rather large percentage of color people in the army, use them against whites ... Well, whites who are in the army, throw them in color ... wassat
              Yes, I agree in some states (for example Texas) the culture of communication with weapons is on top, those will fight. laughing But not everywhere. I faintly imagine a thread of a manager with a gun in his hands laughing
  18. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 27 August 2013 11: 39 New
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    The English-language “Wikipedia” describes “Rex 84” as a program developed by the United States federal government. Its tasks are: suspension of the US Constitution, declaration of martial law, transfer to the military of the full state and local government, the detention of a large number of American citizens, who are considered "a threat to national security." These measures are taken in the event that the president declares a “state of emergency”.
    Well, actually everything is ready for the United States to become a truly democratic country. It remains to announce the transition date. bully
  19. Predator-74
    Predator-74 27 August 2013 11: 48 New
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    camps will be needed soon!
  20. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 27 August 2013 12: 06 New
    +2
    Welcome to USA, the freest and most democratic country! Your choice of accommodation in any of the 800 legiers of relaxation.
  21. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 27 August 2013 12: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: Karlsonn
    Quote: minimum
    Russian courts issue 98-99% of convictions,


    First, compare how much is in the USA and how much in Russia.
    In totalitarian Russia, in which human rights are grossly violated, by the way, there is no death penalty (which is a pity), but in the light of world democracy - the United States is.


    At the same time, note several types for every taste and color.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 27 August 2013 12: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      At the same time, note several types for every taste and color.


      Yes sir!
      They especially pin their term for 300 years. laughing
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 27 August 2013 15: 13 New
        +2
        300 is still seeds, because there are some MacLauds living there.

        So, at present, Ohio resident Ariel Castro faces about 1 thousand years in prison for rape and captivity of three women. Castro indicted on 977 articles
        In the course of the whole Criminal Code, they hung him, although maybe this is their last name they don’t like so much laughing
  22. Horst78
    Horst78 27 August 2013 12: 44 New
    +2
    "Camps were created in accordance with the program" Rex 84"... Also," Rex 84"Allows the use of military bases as prisons." - George Orwell. 1984 however annoying sad
    1. smile
      smile 27 August 2013 14: 06 New
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      Horst78
      In the same way, their total zombies annoy them ... I just want to look for towers with emitters, like the Strugatsky’s in the Inhabited Island ... :)))
  23. Luga
    Luga 27 August 2013 13: 15 New
    +2
    What do you want? A state created by convicts, outcasts, thieves and robbers, built on the bones of a destroyed native population, cannot behave differently at the genetic level. The walls and barbed wire in their head are at the level of the subcortex. They started from this and cannot do without it. Even if they do not need these concentration camps, they will have them and always have had them - remember the Indian reservations. Looking at the walls with spines inside while being outside is a pleasure only for someone who understands what should be inside. A criminal who has seized power will first build a prison.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 27 August 2013 14: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Luga
      What do you want? A state created by convicts, outcasts, thieves and robbers, built on the bones of a destroyed native population, cannot behave differently at the genetic level. The walls and barbed wire in their head are at the level of the subcortex.


      Here is a brief digression into US history:



      Informatively, there are also camps.
    2. Buran
      Buran 27 August 2013 14: 58 New
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      I don’t know how you feel about Bushkov, but I propose to read his book "Unknown War. The Secret History of the United States" You will be surprised but the UStan is built on the bones of white slaves of the so-called sideboards. This was especially practiced in the so-called North.
  24. Megatron
    Megatron 27 August 2013 14: 06 New
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    In our country, too, the Gulag is conserved as far as I know. There would be our liberals, rainbow and guest workers. It will be.
    1. Buran
      Buran 27 August 2013 15: 09 New
      +1
      No one canned it, it is the Federal Penitentiary Service of the Russian Federation.
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 27 August 2013 15: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Megatron
      In our country, too, the Gulag is mothballed as far as I know.


      I’m disappointing, part of the Gulag is working, part of it has long been closed.
  25. Savva30
    Savva30 27 August 2013 14: 20 New
    +1
    America hated Obama: Comments of ordinary Americans http://matveychev-oleg.livejournal.com/479139.html
  26. n-kama
    n-kama 27 August 2013 15: 01 New
    -1
    further evidence of the duplicity of the American authorities
  27. aviator_IAS
    aviator_IAS 27 August 2013 15: 08 New
    +1
    The largest of the "centers" is the facility in Fairbanks (Alaska). In American blogs, you can read that the Alaskan facility was created on the basis of a huge psychiatric institution and can contain about 2 million people. According to some reports, we are even talking about five million.


    I was now looking at the surroundings of Fairbanks from the satellite and did not find this cyclopean camp. Maybe someone will find it more by eye. Then throw a reference, well, or coordinates. Just curious. Or everything is very cleverly disguised there, or maybe even an underground city of 2-5 million people belay
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 27 August 2013 18: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: aviator_IAS
      I was now looking at the surroundings of Fairbanks from the satellite and did not find this cyclopean camp. Maybe someone will find it more by eye. Then throw a reference, well, or coordinates.


      Oil painting:
      - they brought 5 000 000 people to this camp, on the first day they all went down the main road, well, after a difficult road wink , each of them produced white light on 300 grams of excrement this is 1 500 000 kilograms fellow .
      Where is all this going? what
  28. washi
    washi 27 August 2013 16: 36 New
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    I don’t understand: why do not all of the media talk about this?
    Do not raise this issue in the UN, PACE, etc.?
    Why are we to blame for everything, and the Anglo-Saxons and Jews (Jews do not be offended) are soft and fluffy?
  29. Sirs
    Sirs 27 August 2013 17: 02 New
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    amers people are pragmatic, the end of the camp is an effective measure. (especially in emergencies associated with the fermentation of democracy in the United States.)
  30. duchy
    duchy 27 August 2013 17: 07 New
    -1
    There is no smoke without fire. The camps prepare for us like, captured, and with these hands to build happiness and prosperity for the elect. The most democratic non-humans. There are enough examples in history. And food, why feed them? They will work out their own in a utilizer. They don’t get used to doing this. Aviator_IAS can’t you drop the link from the satellite? Or is it a Google map?
    1. placidus
      placidus 27 August 2013 17: 42 New
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      Google, "Eielson AFB". A cute piece of Alaska on the map is about 110 square kilometers. A couple of underground Fairbanks is enough, if that ...
      1. aviator_IAS
        aviator_IAS 27 August 2013 22: 57 New
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        Quote: placidus
        corner, "Eielson AFB". A cute piece of Alaska on the map is about 110 square kilometers. A couple of underground Fairbanks is enough, if that ...


        Enough is enough, but a huge underground concentration camp, especially prozapas - idiocy in an extreme stage.
  31. Flooding
    Flooding 27 August 2013 18: 23 New
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    Quote: matRoss
    Before embarking on the opuses from the life of Ancient Russia, it would be nice for comrade PravdaAlyub to learn how to write his own nickname without grammatical errors!

    matRoss, well, you just don’t need to approach the connoisseurs of hoary antiquity with modern grammatical measures. In two counts they will prove that this was exactly what was written by ancient runes and birch bark.
  32. Arkan
    Arkan 27 August 2013 20: 08 New
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    How and what are they going to feed so many people?
  33. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 27 August 2013 21: 37 New
    -1
    Yes, everything is clear. American camps, that's for sure, but the Russians will guard them, is that also understandable? Just by agreement between the U.S. and Russia, the U.S. occupation will take place, all citizens will undergo sanitation in the camps, the loyal will be released, the disloyal in the gas chambers (the author forgot to mention that all the camps are equipped with gas chambers that contain large vehicles entirely).
  34. GUSAR
    GUSAR 27 August 2013 22: 14 New
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    Yes, to hell with them from the United States, I’m much more concerned about Russia, of course rejoice at how they live sickly, fun and cool, but you have been in Russia for a long time, dear author?
  35. Lone wolf
    Lone wolf 28 August 2013 09: 17 New
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    For that Putin is an evil dictator who forbids a gay parade!