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Another closure of Dmitry Medvedev's initiative, or how to deal with Lomonosovs?

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Another initiative of Dmitry Medvedev, which he voiced while being the president of Russia, is “wrapped up” today. But what is it! .. Promille was returned, Skolkovo “hands are twisted”, the hands of the clock and they want to put on winter and summer options again, and still pull hands to time zones, technical inspection and even “e-government”. That's because bad luck. And here we are literally cutting the project “Global Education”, which Dmitry Anatolyevich intended to promote to the masses.


Another closure of Dmitry Medvedev's initiative, or how to deal with Lomonosovs?


This is a project that was proposed by the president in 2010 year. It is worth recalling that it was Dmitry Medvedev who was in that position in Russia. The Global Education project intended to send the best Russian students to study at the best foreign universities. At the first stage, it was planned to send up to 3 thousands of Russian students to foreign high schools who could gain knowledge backed up by graduate or postgraduate studies in specialties connected with the management and development of modern business. In the autumn of 2011, such an initiative, as they say, took place in the government headed by Vladimir Putin at that time. Passed - this means that it was approved - once, and the money for the first stage in the amount of one and a half billion rubles was allocated - two. It only remained to find the very students who needed to be sent to foreign universities.

Either they were looking badly, or the best students hid so skillfully from the “search” commissions, but the fact remains: the program was launched so much and was not. The allocated money was decided to be spent on the development of Russian-language education abroad, and they said about the implementation of the Global Education project: let's wait for better times. These best times, according to the main ideologists of the program, came in July of this year. Why in July it is not entirely clear, but it was at this time that the program was again actively spoken about and sent to the presidential administration to be approved there and given a start to start implementation.

It turned out that the presidential administration of Russia is not eager to endorse the Global Education project. The letter to the program makers (and these people work at the Agency for Strategic Initiatives) stated that “Global Education” needs to be reworked, since the document does not spell out the mechanisms for attracting extrabudgetary investments, “does not reflect the functions and responsibilities of the program performer”, and do modern Russia need regular managers if we have a clear shortage of engineers and scientists who are really engineers and scientists, and not those who simply carry such “crusts” in their pocket ...

It turns out that Vladimir Putin did not approve this time what approved 2011 of the year in the fall. Whether it was embarrassing that the program stalled then, or embarrassed something else - it’s not clear, but it’s clear that if Global Education starts its work, it’s definitely not tomorrow or even tomorrow.

If we talk about the very idea of ​​teaching the best Russian students abroad at a budget expense, then this idea seems quite rational. After all, Russia has its own historical experience of how effective it can be to obtain foreign educational experience by representatives of talented Russian youth. And Mikhail Lomonosov in this sense is one of the examples, of which there really are not many, but very many.

However, initially, the idea expressed by Dmitry Medvedev was a weak point (by the way, it is noticeable that Dmitry Anatolyevich’s idea is definitely a weak point ...), and the place is who and how will select students to be sent to study abroad, and for state money. Does it not turn out that the talented Russian students included in the program will be the children of ministers, governors, mayors and their advisers. Of course, the persons responsible for the preparation of the program will say that all this is speculation that the program was completely under vigilant control, and no rogues would have slipped into it. But after all, “Global Education” is far from the only program that is “vigilantly controlled”. There are even more ambitious projects in which control is declared multi-stage (construction of Olympic facilities, for example), but this does not at all prevent certain individuals from using these programs solely for personal purposes (hello to Bilalov and Co.).

It is one thing to say that the program is written for the best Russian students, and it is quite another thing to choose such students for its realization, and not those who, by the will of fate and the order of the “father,” were among the best of the best. Will the Agency provide strategic initiatives with such transparency? It would be desirable, of course, to believe that everything at ASI will turn out ...

By the way, representatives of this Agency today are openly wondering why the president did not trust them. In particular, one of the ASI members - Dmitry Peskov (not to be confused with the press secretary of Vladimir Putin) - states that he considers the words that Russia needs only engineers and scientists very strange today. According to Peskov from ASI, if a qualified engineer gets into the existing management system at an enterprise that has remained since the Soviet times, then its efficiency will be minimal. And so that it is maximal, just, they say, and you need the idea of ​​educating talented Russian youth abroad, to promote what ASI does. In general, every sandpiper praises its swamp ...

Well, on the one hand, it would seem that Peskov and rights are without a good organization of management today, either. But here we must not forget that we have not only “sovereign democracy”, but also a “sovereign” business system. Will a young specialist who graduated from a post-graduate course at a relevant faculty of a foreign university in our “sovereign” business be able to build an effective, and even transparent job, in which production is up to par, and the manager receives in 3-5, and not in 30-50 times more payment for labor, rather than an ordinary employee. With such “transparency manners” for this certified specialist, we can have our wings cut off at once: here, they say, my dear, not any Frankfurt-am-Main; work "as it should" ...

First you have to clean up the inside of your internal business system, and for this 23-year-old boy or girl with beautiful diplomas is definitely not enough. Again, you have to apply an iron hand ... Fortunately, although Lomonosov’s example somehow warms ... As well, by the way, the fact that Russia has enough of its educational institutions, where talented and experienced teachers work, who are able to train students, at least, not worse foreign "analogues" ...
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  1. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 23 August 2013 08: 20
    16
    hi Dmitry (his father, Tolya, who once probably waged a bear), that he wouldn’t do it, then he wouldn’t be in Russian proc. negative
    1. Mitek
      Mitek 23 August 2013 09: 41
      19
      Quote: Valery Neon
      hi Dmitry (his father, Tolya, who once probably waged a bear), that he wouldn’t do it, then he wouldn’t be in Russian proc. negative

      The bear lives in a parallel universe. Or just a narrow-minded person. It is especially funny when he puffs and rugaetstso)). And in Moscow, much more people do everything not in Russia. And most of them are in the Kremlin, the Duma, and the Federation Council. There are almost no people caring for the homeland.
      1. falcon
        falcon 23 August 2013 10: 50
        10
        Quote: Mitek

        The bear lives in a parallel universe.

        He lives in a perpendicular universe. A time lord, ...
      2. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt 23 August 2013 11: 26
        -9
        The bear lives in a parallel universe. Or just a narrow-minded person. It is especially funny when he puffs and rugaetstso)). And in Moscow, much more people do everything not in Russia. And most of them are in the Kremlin, the Duma, and the Federation Council. There are almost no people caring for the homeland.

        And how will you behave when they run into you from all sides, and can they kill in general? I wrote about the kill not in vain, in big politics this factor is taken into account by everyone. And the family must be constantly guarded.
        Have you thought about this?

        And also, how will you behave when you say: “you have to do this and that, they nod to you, and when you leave the office they twist your finger at your temple?
        And also, how will you behave when they palm off on you an anti-Russian law approved by the Duma for signature?
        And also, how will you behave when you have only friendship with Putin behind your back, and literally almost everything against you?

        So, to be president, this does not mean at all to be TOP.
        1. kanevsvv
          kanevsvv 23 August 2013 16: 21
          +5
          Do not f * c then be elected as president, if you are afraid of everything
      3. A-50
        A-50 23 August 2013 14: 49
        +3
        Quote: Mitek
        It is especially funny when he puffs and rugaetstso)).


        good Cast into granite laughing
      4. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 23 August 2013 15: 40
        +3
        Quote: Mitek
        The bear lives in a parallel universe. Or just a narrow-minded person. It is especially funny when he puffs and rugaetstso))

        Each of us is destined to have a task ... to serve alone ... to defend and improve the homeland ... to others, adherents of liberal ideas and a pro-Western world order, fate has prepared a thankless job to create the "FIFTH COLUMN" in Russia ...
        One such "prodigy" was trained in the United States at the Institute for the Training of Democratic Leaders. Navalny is his last name ... and the author of the article says that the program is not running ...
        The trouble lies elsewhere ... having a desire to write his name into HISTORY ... a person does not evaluate his real capabilities ... but excessive narcissism, the desire to become famous take over and more often the effect is obtained - "FALLED INTO HISTORY"!
        Therefore, one by one the "historical decisions and attempts" of the LADY are canceled.
    2. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 23 August 2013 09: 43
      +4
      There was a better opinion of Dmitry Anatolyevich = (
      1. anip
        anip 23 August 2013 10: 02
        +2
        Quote: LaGlobal
        There was a better opinion of Dmitry Anatolyevich = (

        Someone's?
        1. tungus
          tungus 23 August 2013 11: 38
          11
          Quote: anip
          Someone's?

          So he uses an iPhone! An advanced person, one might say intelligent. And he did it with his intentions ...
          Interestingly, but the practical results of training our people in THEIR universities are not enough for the government? Starting with Yakovlev under Gorbachev, and ending with bulk? Is it really not clear that by educating our youth at TAM, we are preparing for ourselves about the Western elite? Moreover, do we pay for this training ourselves?
          No, I did not have a better opinion of Medvedev, and apparently I will not.
    3. ildar335
      ildar335 23 August 2013 21: 20
      +1
      so sure! and in general let them go to study with us!
  2. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 23 August 2013 08: 40
    10
    With this money, it would be possible to open many additional budget places in domestic universities, rather than finance imported ones. Otherwise, it’s almost impossible to enter the budget if you are not a graduate from the North Caucasus with 100 USE points (be it wrong).
  3. krasin
    krasin 23 August 2013 08: 43
    12
    Dmitry, that doesn’t do it, then not to the proc of RUSSIA

    It’s as if the initiatives are being let down from the west. Laws are to rename cops to policemen (there’s nowhere to put money), ЕГ, according to the Russian Academy of Sciences, privatization, yes, and in general, what does he do here ??? You can’t find an adequate, competent person throughout Russia ?? We have a lot of these, just did not look!
    1. strange and pretty meaningless
      strange and pretty meaningless 23 August 2013 10: 02
      +7
      Quote: krasin
      It is as if the initiatives were launched from the west.


      I agree - Mendel will give. The globe for him will be the whole head of a misha labeled. For that and awarded.
    2. kot11180
      kot11180 23 August 2013 10: 30
      +2
      I think it’s not as if it’s from the West, in this case our youth should have been taught a gay-liberal worldview so that in the future there will be more supporters in Russia, by the way, students with business professions were needed, that’s how they taught engineers in the West what they’ll teach
      1. strange and pretty meaningless
        strange and pretty meaningless 23 August 2013 12: 13
        +4
        This is a program for the formation of a pro-Western elite group - a kind of paratrooper of Chubaisiks. What else can such "Leibs" talk about - "Global Education", the Agency for Strategic Initiatives (autonomous non-profit (new) education). School of Legal Fundamentalism "Pooh & Ashes".
  4. 311ove
    311ove 23 August 2013 08: 43
    12
    Quote: Valery Neonov
    Dmitry (his father, Tolya, once probably wielding a bear), that he wouldn’t do it, then he wouldn’t be in the Russian

    So in my opinion this is a vivid example of the very "effective management" hi When there are only managers around, but no specialists .....
  5. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 23 August 2013 08: 44
    +6
    I remembered the old film "The Tobacco Captain", only Peter I was not.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 23 August 2013 09: 05
      +7
      Quote: Anatol Klim
      only Peter I is not.

      Yes, he did not go to Peter the Great. Neither mind nor height.
      1. core
        core 23 August 2013 14: 17
        +1
        Yes, such a degenerate as "parsley" still needs to look, and that did not undertake everything.
  6. fzr1000
    fzr1000 23 August 2013 08: 51
    +2
    No, well, if our students would go to the advanced technical universities of the West, then the initiative is not bad. And if, indeed, manager accountants again, then money wasted.
    1. strange and pretty meaningless
      strange and pretty meaningless 23 August 2013 12: 23
      +4
      Quote: fzr1000
      ... well, if our students would go to the advanced technical universities of the West, then ...


      stop Stop stop stop. My friend, you admit the methodological ASHIPKU. The attempts of such an actor, like a bear can not be seen through a telescope wassat take your eyes off the eyepiece. Here you need if not a small scope - then certainly a good LUP. They call him a luntik purely conditionally ... This is an ordinary loupe lawyer - a veteran of the Brownian movement. A priori, all of his favors are semi-digested ideological worms. Sorry for naturalism.
  7. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 23 August 2013 08: 51
    10
    Wafer son of Anatoly fed up with his crazy and stupid ideas. It is necessary to oblige him to bring them to life at his expense. Maybe then they will end (ideas)?
  8. PPO-1980
    PPO-1980 23 August 2013 09: 00
    +4
    Dimka retired and back to the university as a teacher on a teaching salary. Let him live. But what will he teach students ?? !!! And let the action prevail in his respect, in full measure, the old army proverb: "initiative" has an "initiator".
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 23 August 2013 09: 04
      +5
      Quote: PPO-1980
      Dimka resigned and back to the university as a teacher teaching salary.

      But it’s better to be a laboratory assistant, let him experiment with rats rather than with people am
  9. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 23 August 2013 09: 04
    +6
    Dimona must be sent to study somewhere far away (ten years)))) wassat
    1. anip
      anip 23 August 2013 10: 01
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Dimona must be sent to study somewhere far away (ten years))))

      Learn to cut wood?
  10. grafrozow
    grafrozow 23 August 2013 09: 19
    +6

    It turns out that Vladimir Putin did not approve this time what approved 2011 of the year in the fall. Whether it was embarrassing that the program stalled then, or embarrassed something else - it’s not clear, but it’s clear that if Global Education starts its work, it’s definitely not tomorrow or even tomorrow.
    Well, something like this.
    1. anip
      anip 23 August 2013 10: 00
      +8
      President Putin has promised to correct government mistakes made under the leadership of President Putin that the government inherited from President Putin.
  11. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 23 August 2013 09: 21
    +6
    all these kookies from Dimasik are an involuntary payment for saving a place.

    he messed up, of course, decently for the 4 of the year, but at least he returned the chair and did not manage to ruin the country. And the arrows - cho, well, translate, ppm - cancel, students - we will teach ourselves. compared with MSG and EBN - Dimasik is just a kid in the sandbox (with iPhone)))
    1. z-exit
      z-exit 23 August 2013 10: 49
      +2
      There are, of course, good points for which it is not a shame for Medvedev as for Garbachev and EBN - the Georgian conflict for example.
      1. z-exit
        z-exit 23 August 2013 14: 41
        +7
        But this I will never forgive Medvedev:


        “I accept the highest award of the Russian state with excitement and gratitude. Before my eyes, my whole life passes. I’m not ashamed of what I’ve done. ”
        Said M.S. Gorbachev at the presentation of the Order of the Holy Apostle Andrew the First-Called, May 3, 2012. Then he dumped back over the hill
        1. alone
          alone 23 August 2013 14: 45
          +3
          belay can you imagine what other troubles he could have created so that he would be ashamed am
        2. z-exit
          z-exit 23 August 2013 15: 14
          +1
          The Musichik family is trying to understand the enthusiasm of Mikhail Gorbachev, announcing his resignation as president of the communist empire.
          25 декабря 1991 года
          .
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  12. Owl
    Owl 23 August 2013 09: 38
    14
    The fact that "plush Dima" is an enemy of Russia, a traitor to its allies, a pro-American politician has long been known and probably to everyone who is interested in foreign and domestic politics. But there is no answer to the most important question: Who put VVP to "power" first, and then moved this "boy-lawyer" to the "presidency"? The author of this "tandem" did it simply: VVP is a patriot, a fighter for Russia, just a wonderful fighter (though only on the tatami), very "GOOD", and "plush" is a bastard, a bastard of the economy and education, even the arrows on the clock do not translate into the direction in which it is necessary, in general - BAD. To be honest, I'm tired of this theater with an invisible stage director.
    1. UrraletZ
      UrraletZ 23 August 2013 10: 04
      +4
      For a long time, such thoughts have been circulating that some kind of octopus is behind Putin and the Vedmedeva has been leading this whole coven for already 22 years, or even 28 ...
    2. michajlo
      michajlo 24 August 2013 01: 43
      +1
      Eagle Owl RU Today, 09:38, UrraletZ SU Yesterday, 10:04 ↑
      Good evening, dear Philip and Andrew!
      You are absolutely right.

      True, when I wrote about this here more than once, that only on the basis of ONE results of actions and results "weak and malleable LADY <> unbending iron GDP" I come to the conclusion that this is only theatrical farce to deceive voters and taxpayers, then I immediately listen to the indignation of the hurray-patriots and MY involvement in "a group of demons like Novodvorskaya" or "screamers at the American embassy" !?

      True, to the question why they both work "in tandem" until now, why is the LADY not a former one for a long time? I have not yet read the answer and confirmation of his high business and patriotic qualities.

      Well, after awarding Mr. Gorbachev with the Russian Order of Comrade Medvedev (2011), I have lost all confidence in the Kremlin and the guarantor’s patriotism.

      I don’t know, maybe by the beginning of my old age I became distrustful of the authorities as such, or I simply lost the “rose-colored glasses of youth and naivety” with age and experience ?!

      Sincerely, Mikhailo.
  13. Lapotnik
    Lapotnik 23 August 2013 10: 02
    +7
    Everyone says the tandem has broken up ... Have you forgotten the expression "good / bad" police officer? Tandem in action.

    To study abroad ... Indeed, Lomonosov's example is indicative - at that time, their Geyropeans were trained in Russia for Russian money, and now, since Geyrope has a bummer with their "blanks" of personnel, they decided to lure the Russians away. We will train them for our own people, they will be rinsed abroad at that time and they will stay there ... or return "super effective managra" ... But Russian education is not necessary - for raw materials appendages it is superfluous. With the collapse of domestic education through another dimka, they will help, he is also good at this, so the process is already in leaps and bounds.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 23 August 2013 10: 59
      +4
      Quote: Lapotnik
      Everyone says the tandem has broken up ... Have you forgotten the expression "good / bad" police officer? Tandem in action.

      Also, lately for some reason it seems that this is so.
      Quote: Lapotnik
      since with their "blanks" of personnel the geyropa is a bummer, they decided to lure the Russians.

      And here you are, I would say, mistaken - the geyrops have a crisis, they do not need Russian personnel now - they would have to feed their own. What do you think so many foreign people reached out to Nazarbayev University in Kazakhstan, or to apply to us at the same Skolkovo? They only got a grant there, they didn’t give a grant - you can forget about doing science, go into business, and because of the crisis, the number of grants has decreased greatly.
      Quote: Lapotnik
      We will train them for our own, abroad they will rinse their brains at this time and there they will stay ... or return "super effective managra" ...

      Yes, even if they don’t wash and train normal specialists, they’ll come back, and we have a rate of 6000r for a junior research assistant, for a presenter 12000 ... Even the professional professor with all the extra charges receives 30, but you still need to grow up to him. And who after that will remain with us at such rates, will work and teach ours what he himself learned over the hill? Rather, it really winds back over the hill (
      So it’s good that they closed the program - all the same, for us the practical way out of it would be zero in modern conditions (
  14. alone
    alone 23 August 2013 10: 23
    +1
    The Global Education project was supposed to send the best Russian students to study at the best foreign universities. At the first stage, it was planned to send up to 3 thousand students from Russia to foreign higher schools who could gain knowledge, supported by a document on the completion of a master's or postgraduate study in the specialties associated with the management and development of modern business. In the fall of 2011, such an initiative, as they say, took place in the government, whose head at that time was Vladimir Putin. Passed - this means that it was approved - once, and money for the implementation of the first stage in the amount of one and a half billion rubles was allocated - two. It only remained to find the very students who needed to be sent to foreign universities.


    an interesting thing turns out. The president of DAM puts forward an initiative that is taken by the government at the head of the GDP. A certain time passes by the GDP, minimizes this program, being the president! But what, to understand the disadvantage of this initiative, you must be the president?

    and allocated money for the first stage in the amount of one and a half billion rubles


    But what about the situation with these one and a half billion rubles? and who will return them to the budget?
  15. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 23 August 2013 10: 24
    +1
    Quote: anip
    Learn to cut wood?

    But the benefits are real. good Cooked! laughing
  16. andru_007
    andru_007 23 August 2013 10: 26
    -1
    Quote: Mitek
    Medvedushka lives in a parallel universe

    I think the Cossack is mishandled ....
  17. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 23 August 2013 10: 34
    +4
    Guys, then (under Peter) they sent for knowledge, now for management.
    Those. for the way of management, in my opinion a clear diversion. Lomonosov is not an indicator here (a powerful patriot from the hinterland), if only selection on this principle but how. And the best with our knowledge abroad are bought only this way. In short, sheer nonsense and wrecking.
  18. Constantine
    Constantine 23 August 2013 10: 41
    +3
    In the time of Lomonosov, there was no such indoctrination as now. To send talented students there, in most cases, will mean his loss for the state. he, with a high degree of probability, will work already with an eye on a foreign state. This was well reported in the Korean film Propaganda. I highly recommend and attach to the comment. If we discard all the husks in the form of loud phrases about Korea, then the information is very useful and accessible. smile

  19. Jack7691
    Jack7691 23 August 2013 10: 42
    +2
    Yes, Dimon looks at the world through a donated iPhone, apparently with pink glass. Or the brainwashing program for this iPhone was installed in Apple specifically for him - otherwise, why his initiatives are always either to the detriment or not the topic ...
  20. Sochi
    Sochi 23 August 2013 11: 03
    +4
    I remember when the GDP was pushing him forward, how menacingly he frowned. And when he became a presom (I apologize, well, the language doesn’t turn to call him president) then where did the gloomy eyebrows go, you look and you see the chairman of the teacher's council at a non-staff school ... a mentoring tone; talking, such an impression, with third-graders; all so smug ... Ugh, it's unpleasant to die.
  21. Alex66
    Alex66 23 August 2013 11: 26
    +4
    The main types of officials:
    1. Smart and proactive - useful
    2. Smart and without initiative - not useful
    3. Not smart and without initiative - not harmful
    4. Not smart and proactive - harmful
    Which of them is our DAM?
    1. Sochi
      Sochi 23 August 2013 11: 39
      +3
      He has a talent for everything at once except the first point.
  22. seller trucks
    seller trucks 23 August 2013 12: 00
    +4
    At the first stage, it was planned to send up to 3 thousand students from Russia to foreign higher schools


    As I understand it, we would risk getting at least 2-3 thousand in the ass, agents of influence, with brainwashed in foreign universities, and the best brains. Doesn't it seem to you, dear members of the forum, that such "deeds" do. can be classified as sabotage.
  23. Vadim2013
    Vadim2013 23 August 2013 12: 59
    +2
    First of all, it is necessary to restore order in the state, now even those who have received a Russian education are leaving.
  24. Muadipus
    Muadipus 23 August 2013 13: 26
    +1
    At the first stage, it was planned to send up to 3 thousand students from Russia to foreign higher schools who could gain knowledge backed by a document confirming completion of a master's or postgraduate study in specialties related to the management and development of modern business.
    Send the best 3000 brainwashing students to the worldwide PidrDermocracy program. Look, the glorious son of the Georgian people Misha has already learned from the Pendants, and we all know what this led to. Want to learn? Let them learn on the territory of the Russian Federation, and under the control of the FSB what they teach.
  25. pensioner
    pensioner 23 August 2013 13: 30
    +4
    there was a weak spot (by the way, it is noticeable that in any idea of ​​Dmitry Anatolyevich a weak spot is certainly visible ...)
    And he himself is a weak spot.
  26. Horla
    Horla 23 August 2013 13: 31
    0
    Most like a clown. For Russia, he did nothing useful.
  27. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 23 August 2013 14: 34
    +2
    DAMA Gorbachev’s laurels do not give rest. Henpecked
  28. Hitrovan07
    Hitrovan07 23 August 2013 14: 46
    +2
    Here are some thoughts after reading the article:
    1. To send students for state money, and then expect that they will remain there (a comparison of life, alas, will not be in Russia's favor).
    2. If you study for managers and economists - again by - the Western economic school has shown itself with splendor by 2008 (the economy is still in heat), and the management decisions of companies of the level of Enron Corporation and Lehman Brothers Holdings, Inc. speak for themselves.
    3. It is necessary to increase funding for the main "higher schools" in Russia - there is no other way.
  29. Fin
    Fin 23 August 2013 15: 03
    +3
    Quote: abyrvalg
    This is the program for the formation of a pro-Western elite group - a kind of Chubaisik paratrooper

    I completely agree. For the budget account, train liberals to ruin their country. He can only do this. Does anyone remember his helpful presidency decision?
    He never headed any serious organization, experience zero, kept a place, what can be expected from him? The main thing is not to interfere.
  30. saag
    saag 23 August 2013 16: 58
    +1
    "... and they also reach out to ... even the" electronic government ""
    And what, by the way, was a good idea of ​​this very electronic government - the automation of the provision of public services, probably the initiator of the idea and did not imagine how deadly this idea could be if it was deeply promoted for the Russian officials, although if it began to slow down, they realized. So the main enemy for Russia is officials and they must be fought by replacing them with a computer, a plausible pretext - the computer works faster, never gets tired and does not take bribes, and the main argument is "such an implementation has long been introduced in the advanced countries of the West!" In my opinion, the future of Russia is not socialism, but cyber-socialism :-) This has the right to life, because this has not happened yet :-)
  31. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 23 August 2013 17: 38
    +3
    Yes, you chose Medvedev as president of Russia. He was introduced by his successor to Putin. AND WHO ARE YOU ELECTING THEM ....?
    1. alone
      alone 23 August 2013 18: 45
      +4
      here is a good question)) they choose, then they complain))
      1. Fin
        Fin 23 August 2013 20: 52
        0
        Quote: lonely
        here is a good question)) they choose, then they complain))

        And if there is nobody adequate on the horizon, then what should I do? Shocks and an even bigger mess nobody needs. Zyuganov could have been a stretch, but he had already put it on his pants once.
        And of course, the people put forward the son of G. Aliyev, for his great contribution to the cause .... You also voted for stability and will do it again. There is no alternative.
        1. alone
          alone 24 August 2013 00: 08
          +2
          Yes, no one needs a mess in the country. But no one is eternal. All of us are mortals. The problem is that there is no one to govern the country after 143 millionth of Russia after GDP. What comes of your words? What will happen next? what
          1. ivshubarin
            ivshubarin 24 August 2013 02: 30
            0
            We have Shoigu - save
  32. spirit
    spirit 23 August 2013 18: 40
    +3
    It only says that there are only amoebas in the government! One gentleman said, let's accept, they said yes everything is OK) another gentleman came and said I do not want, and everyone agreed. Not the government but POLITICAL IMPOTENTS! Absolutely zero opinion. The main thing PAPE please)))))
  33. Roman_999
    Roman_999 23 August 2013 20: 00
    +1
    Well, what did you want from five-minute initiatives? That's all their time just happened, so that in History to remain a Big Man or a Great One you need to do something more substantial than stupidly fight smoking, forbid adult uncles to drink after 22; 00, and translate virtual clock hands and try to remove time zones. ..and this is far from all, but the fact that the secret is now not accessible to the masses is also that after many years it will emerge in the red with this man.
  34. zub46
    zub46 23 August 2013 20: 47
    +1
    Normal young people should not be allowed to study abroad, they will be completely brainwashed there, and 70 percent (maybe a hundred) will generally be recruited to their side. As a result, we get pests and other representatives of the "fifth column".
  35. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 23 August 2013 21: 59
    +1
    <<< Will it not turn out that the talented Russian students who entered the program (promoted by Medvedev) will be the children of ministers, governors, mayors and their advisers. >>>
    The main caring patron of the Russian bureaucracy, the ruling elite and its obvious defender from all kinds of accusations has become even more distinct. He said that Serdyukov was an "effective leader", thereby making it clear to whom should be where the boundaries of any investigative actions and charges are. Therefore, everyone is still watching the criminal soap opera with the theft of BILLIONS of rubles in the Moscow region, which they just do not know how to finish without the main character! And all his initiatives, it seems, are good and aimed in the interests of the people, however, in the conditions of Russian reality (and he knows about it), for some reason, as a rule, only those in power receive the benefit from them! It seems that VVP is trying to frame this entire public, but even its power and strength is not enough for this. Hence, obviously, many half-hearted and even timid decisions! But this process cannot be stopped - there is NO alternative! Either THEY, or the rest of the people!
  36. voliador
    voliador 24 August 2013 01: 51
    +1
    There are too many divine effective managers of different caliber, that's just their level ... Remember the same stool (to make Pinocchio out of it).
  37. Sibrusich
    Sibrusich 24 August 2013 07: 04
    +1
    Another system for the outflow of brains from the country. Moreover, the training comes at our expense, but whether he will return to raise Russia back is very doubtful. At the exit from the institute, comrades from unfriendly countries will be waiting for him and simply offer a salary of 1000 bucks more. This is how we will supply foreign corporations with personnel at the expense of the budget.