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Caucasian policy should be built around justice and without prejudice to the Russians.

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Caucasian policy should be built around justice and without prejudice to the Russians.In an interview with Caucasian Politics, the chairman of the supervisory board of the Institute for Demography, Migration and Regional Development, Yuri Krupnov, says whether it is possible to return Russian personnel to the North Caucasus, about Caucasophobia, about the situation in Pugachev, about what awaits us after the Sochi Olympics and his open letter to Kadyrov.


During the election of the mayor of the capital, candidates voiced provocative statements regarding both migrants and residents of the North Caucasus. In your opinion, how can this affect the position of the federal center in the North Caucasus, especially if you take into account the situation in Dagestan and the fact that the Sochi Olympiad is approaching, implying stability in this region? As a result, the situation will unfold and what is behind such statements?

Behind such statements is the complete failure of the three Kremlin politicians - national, Caucasian and migration (which are inevitably mixed in people's minds), which is reflected in the absolute anti-Russian nature of the three basic documents: the Concept of State Migration Policy, approved last June, the State National Strategy approved in December last year and the North Caucasus Development Strategy together with the state program, which were approved in the last three years.

They all come from false and directly subversive premises.

If we take migration policy, then it is argued that the more migration (including internal so-called “mobility”), the better for the country's economy and demography, although everything is just the opposite: migration kills both demography and the economy.

The strategy of the national policy relies on politicized national minorities, who are allegedly persecuted and humiliated by the rest (who are these others?) And thus in fact denies the importance of the Russians as the state-forming people, essentially canceling them.

And the development strategy of the North Caucasus is based on the idea that there are not enough jobs in the North Caucasus, which seems to be correct, but does not specify in any way exactly which jobs and where they can come from - the problem is not in abstract jobs, but that There are no people who are able to organize full-fledged production, give people honestly earn.

And whatever one may say, one must admit that both the current head of Dagestan and the head of Ingushetia have recognized in their statements that without the Russians in the North Caucasus there will be no decent jobs (ILO term).

Therefore, taking into account these three documents, it is obvious that the money will end up not only spent in vain, but will also become an investment from the state apparatus in the destabilization of the state, Russia.

Together, these three politicians lead the country to disaster.

And it doesn’t matter at the same time who will make the most negative contribution: network ethnocrime - or frostbitten, so-called “Russian nationalists”, designed to depict the “Russian fascism” invented by Surkov (otherwise how can we explain the incomprehensible protection of national minorities?); chaotic migration flows - or fighters with migration; the Caucasians are rapidly settling (and now also with the help of the state) in the regions - or the indigenous people who are outraged by their unexpected concentration in their villages and cities.

Here are the current elections in Moscow. The main candidates are campaigning on the anti-migrant theme (as if the migrants suddenly “came in” a week before the elections), thereby rocking the boat, since selfish interests in the absence of the ability to pose and solve fundamental problems always aggravate and eventually explode the situation.

To the question of Russian. Over the past few years, different versions of how Russian cadres can be returned to the North Caucasus appear in the expert community. Perhaps the accession of the Stavropol Territory to the NCFD partly came from this concept of return. But it has not yet led to anything constructive. Is it possible in the conditions of current realities to return the Russian population to the North Caucasus?

Not just possible, but vital. And this is done very simply: firstly, the status and possibilities of the Stavropol Territory must be radically raised, it must be made a bridgehead for all of the great Caucasian politics, and, secondly, the federal government should demand from the Russians that they should implement what was said in Putin’s electoral articles and decrees .

The return of the Russians should mean the solution of three state tasks: the first is the new industrialization. Give Russians the opportunity not to work for the oligarchs and serve the shadow financial flows, but to build factories and new industry, and they will come to the North Caucasus, as well as to dozens of other "dead" regions.

Let the Russians build the Eurasian Union, and they will start flying to Baku, Tbilisi, Yerevan, and Iran, and will begin to pull up the North Caucasus. Let the best young people raise their regions through a comprehensive urban planning and industrial policy, and the Russians will come to raise the North Caucasus not by fantasizing about resorts, but by solving real problems.

It is necessary to stop building a false Caucasian policy. Let the Russians do what Putin says. But so far no one is simply giving, but also actively provoking and drawing communal opposition into the grassroots.

If we take into account that Caucasusophobia is very well developed among the Russian population, and Caucasian society does not always simply relate to the Russian population (as a result of past Chechen campaigns), take into account that in Dagestan the prewar period, in Chechnya, there is a surge of radical Islam among young people, as in these is a dialogue possible?

Power at all levels just has to act with justice.

Want to know how in five minutes to drastically improve the whole situation around the North Caucasus?

All that is needed is Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov, Head of the Chechen Republic, to treat justicefully Russian officer Lieutenant Sergey Arakcheyev, who was sentenced to 15 years (and six years already in prison!) By a third court, although before that he was twice acquitted by jury trials.

The situation here is that when two years ago I began asking high-ranking officials how to help Lieutenant Arakcheev, I might further understand the matter and reconsider the court’s decision, then strangely enough, everyone, as if by agreement, began to explain that in vain I took up this matter, that it was “rotten,” because, they say, “Kadyrov will be against, and no one wants to mess with him.”

I admit that this is probably some kind of fantasy of individual officials, their desire to dump from a sick head on a healthy one, etc. Therefore, in August last year, I wrote an open letter to Kadyrov, in which I indicated that there was an obvious injustice here, because Arakcheev twice justified, and after that there were public statements by Ramzan Akhmatovich that the decisions of the jury did not reflect the will of the Chechen people.

The Arakcheev case is essentially political, it shows a careful analysis of the case, and last year Arakcheev even passed a polygraph test - a “lie detector”. It is significant that before the third court, Lieutenant Arakcheev had the opportunity to hide, hide, but he deliberately did not do this, believing in the justice of the state and not wanting to give reason for suspicion that he was still to blame.

So let's fix the situation, I suggested to Kadyrov, speak in favor of Lieutenant Arakcheev, not replacing the court, for carefully re-examining the decision of the court in higher instances. Then everyone will understand that you not only do not keep Arakcheev as if in a zindan, but, on the contrary, you are for Russian officers and Russia ...

Unfortunately, a year has passed, and Kadyrov is silent.

And if he stood up for justice, in the country at once very much would have changed for the better, what kind of “Caucasus-phobia” would there be? Everyone would understand that Ramzan Kadyrov, who is credited with saying that he made Arakcheev hostage to his wrath and Chechen populism, is in fact, quite the contrary, a wise Russian statesman.

In that letter, I noted that demonstrating Kadyrov’s fair attitude towards Arakcheev is a radical and health-improving way of changing attitudes towards Caucasians. And then again in his blog on Ekho Moskvy he explained the life-giving meaning of Kadyrov’s public statement in favor of Arakcheev. This is a specific question, not abstract political slogans.

However, I repeat, a year has passed, but no answer has been received. That's the whole point.

There is a conspiracy theory that some forces cover up their decisions with other political figures.

I suggested that Kadyrov is simply covering up, but Kadyrov does not want to refute the accusations against him. I suggested that the Head of the Chechen Republic speak in favor of being attentive to the clearly unfair situation with the former comrade, Lieutenant Sergey Arakcheyev. But he is silent and, thus, makes us think, or maybe these nods are right at Kadyrov in the Moscow corridors of power?

But then the attitude will be appropriate.

It turns out that in the perception of people from the Russian government corridors, Kadyrov and Chechnya as a whole appear to be a terrible force that it is better not to anger, otherwise everything will be demolished?

Whatever it was, but in the end it turns out the game with only one goal. The federal center initiates many programs in order to improve life in Chechnya, and Ramzan Kadyrov, whose performance with regard to support for Arkacheyev could change a lot, does not take the slightest step forward towards his support.

This is a matter of justice. Three years ago, at the Krasnoyarsk forum, the plenipotentiary Khloponin said that in the North Caucasus it’s not about workplaces, but that there is no justice. And he is right! And not only in relation to the Caucasus.

But on the scale of the whole North Caucasus and in a narrower sense - the lack of justice today in a concentrated form is expressed in the absence of justice to Lieutenant Arakcheev.

And if you take the latest situation in the city of Pugachev? Can it also be considered in the framework of justice and injustice?

A tragedy occurred, and right from the start, the plenipotentiary representative of the Head of Chechnya in the Volga Federal District immediately intervened.

As for the Chechen teenager, whom everyone blamed for, which in itself, to put it mildly, does not add respect, Kadyrov immediately spoke out in his condemnation.

And who spoke about the affected family from the state?

The state — the presidential plenipotentiary Babich, the governor of the Saratov region, the prosecutor, the police — rushed into Pugachev to explain to his heartbroken mother that they didn’t need to stir up ethnic strife. The question arises - the son is killed, and the entire vertical of power is directed against the mother so that she does not say too much, despite the fact that even in condemnation, the head of Chechnya and his envoy paid attention to the accused teenager.

It turns out that the state is not working on an impartial investigation and restoring order, but against victims. The state of our country is dangerous mother of a twenty-year-old boy killed, and not a gang of thugs who turned out to be Chechens.

This is true?

Where do you think the sources of this injustice come from? And how long can this go on? After all, the “one gate” policy gives rise to a serious protest wave in the regions of Russia, which has the character of a nationalist one?

It began with a model that Surkov designed thirteen years ago.

It consists of two parts. First: the artificial elevation of national minorities and the creation of an artificial so-called. "Russian nationalism" that can scare everyone. The task is that the neoliberal operational model, which was created in the country, is exclusively an export option and is absolutely not consistent with any millennial stories Russia, nor the way of mutually enriching coexistence of our peoples.

It is anti-Russian in nature. And in this situation, the most dangerous enemy for this neoliberal system is genuine Russians, because they want to arrange life, as they used to, for a thousand years, and therefore, we must get rid of them, they must be plugged, and best of all - to reduce them to ethnism, perception of oneself not by the builders of Russia, but by one of almost two hundred ethnic groups.

Such a policy of stalking Russians has led to the fact that, on the one hand, the state has almost died, and on the other, there is no development, and everyone has long been competing for 5 kopecks, which gives rise to a series of local clashes and civil wars.

Against the background of lack of development, the fall of education rises the ROC. Does it not turn out that the vague concept of "who are Russians" will find its definition in the formula - are Russians those who belong to the Russian Orthodox Church? And this will lead to a serious social rift?

Great efforts are being made to do so. And this is not the fault of the ROC, but this is what cunning political consultants are striving for. Because it is very convenient when Russians are forced into ethnism and nationalistic pseudo-religion, a genome-modified pseudo-orthodoxy. They want to chimeric political Orthodoxy, on the model of the so-called. "Political Islam".

But this, again, is a consequence of the fact that the government practically does not put strategic supra-ethnic super-tasks for the development of the country. In this regard, both Chechens, Russians, and Tatars are those nations that have lived and coexisted for centuries in the conditions of the most important tasks, that is, in a powerful state, and today this is not the case.

It’s time to get out of the situation when we are all being bruised, and the shape of the nose becomes the basis for someone to shoot. And the more primitivization of life goes on, the more the chaotic competition gets, which reduces life exclusively to ethical and tribal ties. Is it time to stop so primitive life, while moving away from the problems of creating advanced engineering, strengthening science, etc., and start working together for the geopolitical gain of our Russia?

Russians are supra-ethnic education, those who live in the Russian language and serve the Russian statehood. Therefore, instead of cultivating genuine Russianness, the Russian people are being destroyed on all sides as the basis of Russian statehood.

Nothing good will come of it.

“Russian jihad” is very simple. This is not the blackmail of the federal center or the laying of land mines on the roads. It's all the other way around.

At first, ten or twenty Russian men drink, unable to withstand the humiliation and venality of their own, created by themselves the state. But one morning, those who survived wake up and, sober, bring order.

In your opinion, what events will await us immediately after the Sochi Olympics?

And no one guaranteed the prosperous holding of the Olympiad itself!

Therefore, we must not wait for the Olympiad to end, but to correct the situation of total total injustice in the Caucasus right now. At the same time, we have to start doing long things - the things that had to be done over the past twenty years - to recreate industry, culture, agriculture, etc., but we should start with correcting glaring injustice, in particular, regarding Lieutenant Arakcheev.

And as soon as the reason to speak and suppose that he is a hostage of selfish interests in the Caucasus, the situation in the whole country will disappear, I repeat, at the moment it will change for the better.
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  1. makst83
    makst83 23 August 2013 08: 51 New
    +4
    I don’t remember from anyone or somewhere, but there came a knock that Kadyrova and the entire Caucasus would not be touched until the Sochi Olympics, let them spend a quietly sporting holiday, and then ...... Maybe it's true, maybe not!
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 23 August 2013 15: 09 New
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      The Chechens have the same bike just the opposite. They say we won’t touch the Russians before the Olympics, and then you can do whatever you want ...
      Maybe true, maybe not!

      But definitely something will happen, for it is ripe ...

      1. Tersky
        Tersky 23 August 2013 15: 25 New
        +9
        Quote: klimpopov
        They say we won’t touch the Russians before the Olympics, and then you can do whatever you want ...

        Klim hi ! So they are all on the lawlessness anyway .. Where to go then DO NOT touch if there is no one to work in the eastern regions of the region because of the massive outflow of the Russian-speaking population ... Author: Perhaps the accession of the Stavropol Territory to the North Caucasus Federal District partially proceeded from this concept of return. But it has not yet led to anything constructive. , I would add so far this has led to a disastrously destructive ...
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 23 August 2013 16: 07 New
          +6
          The Stavropol Territory was given to the Chechens along with all the Russians. It has long been understood. hi
          if in the eastern regions of the region because of the mass outflow of the Russian-speaking population there is no one to work ...

          It's only the beginning. If we already have whole villages turned into auls with all the consequences ...
          1. Egor.nic
            Egor.nic 23 August 2013 18: 06 New
            25
            Territorial and political preferences could be given, but the people living there do not deserve respect, caving in under the decisions of the authorities and the trash that has driven in.
            We must defend our home, our family, our honor by any means, both individually and in mass unions - not to scream in the streets, but to decide at one time and expel on condition - either live as we dictate to you, or die - these are two . It is indicative to cut a couple - three of these new villages in one fault. And the authorities will have a lesson and filth. And then let them shout at least at the UN level.
            When the Russians were exterminated in all the "Union republics" no one defended them, except for themselves, no one remembered that there live Russians who need help,
            they were shouting in their faces - the invaders, throw your good and get out or die. And where was Russia. Russians outside of Russia did not need her. Now, those who shouted this came to Russia and again in Russia the gut is thin to protect their own, but at home.
            There is nothing worse than when your country is not able to protect you.
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 23 August 2013 18: 41 New
              +3
              Well, we have about the same. True, they still have a little genetic memory of the past. Just a lot on TV and on the Internet do not show.
            2. CaptainBlack
              CaptainBlack 23 August 2013 21: 34 New
              14
              Stalin spent 3 days, and 18 fighters for their eviction! And our government spent 10 years, $ 40 billion, and 15 thousand Russian lives for their "prosperity" !!!
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      3. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 23 August 2013 19: 20 New
        +3
        Well, how much this bacchanalia can last. We know about those cases that have become known thanks to the media, and how many we do not know. So your assumption is not unfounded!
      4. Shumka
        Shumka 23 August 2013 21: 58 New
        0
        Quote: klimpopov
        The Chechens have the same bike just the opposite. They say we won’t touch the Russians before the Olympics, and then you can do whatever you want ...
        Maybe true, maybe not!

        But definitely something will happen, for it is ripe ...

        here you can look differently .... there will be no Russians in Chechnya, there will be no future for Chechnya, Akhmad Kadyrov understood this ... teipov and cormorants will ruin Chechnya as territorial - in general, everything will become a spot on the map.
    2. smile
      smile 23 August 2013 16: 05 New
      -8
      makst83
      This is ordinary gossip generated either by swamps or by those who manage them. Earlier, rumors were said that next year Armageddets would come to Russia, that the willow dollar would grow five times, etc. also appeared regularly. Naturally. no one repented of a lie .... :)))
      The mere fact that the author allows himself to thoughtfully rassusolit on the topic of what supposedly happens after the Olympics completely undermines his credibility ...
      Of course, our interethnic policy is unsuccessful. the situation of Russians in the Caucasus, in some republics, is almost furious ..... but I would consider it to be lower than my dignity to the author’s reasoning ... and all that’s just done for him ... in five minutes .... usually people who with such confidence they talk about five minutes, during which you can clean up one left-worthless, worthless people who. give them free rein, finally ruin the matter ..... author-liar and provocateur. article "-"
      1. Alexei
        Alexei 23 August 2013 17: 47 New
        +8
        To you +. Yes, a lot of things infuriate. Even sometimes it seems that there are more Caucasians than us. Yes, there are more of them because they hold on to each other. And if something happens, then what is “something”? They multiply exponentially, and we drink beer, scolding politicians. What will be, what will be ... Barbecue of you will be laughing
      2. Anti
        Anti 23 August 2013 17: 55 New
        +1
        There is a solution to the problem, it is only necessary to install an example (USSR) on leadership posts from a state-forming people. soldier
        1. alone
          alone 23 August 2013 18: 25 New
          +2
          and do you think now in the Kremlin who sits and rules Russia? Dagestanis or Yakuts?
          1. Anti
            Anti 23 August 2013 18: 37 New
            0
            I had in mind autonomous entities, not excluding Azerbaijan !! angry
            1. alone
              alone 23 August 2013 18: 40 New
              +6
              since when are we considered autonomy? and how do we relate to the problems of Russia in the North Caucasus))) I have such a feeling that you write comments only to write them
              1. Anti
                Anti 23 August 2013 18: 52 New
                0
                if you could think, and not just post, you would understand what the last phrase was about, and so .. only blah blah blah am
              2. Alexei
                Alexei 23 August 2013 18: 53 New
                +1
                Oh Lonely ... Hello, buddy from the once fraternal republic, oppressed everywhere and by everyone except Turkey hi

                Quote: lonely
                since when are we considered autonomy? and what relation do we have to the problems of Russia in the North Caucasus)))

                I hope you are not very upset about this comment, and it will not affect the economic relations between Russia and Azerbaijan in the future?
                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 23 August 2013 19: 59 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Alexej
                  oppressed everywhere and by everyone except Turkey

                  you don’t confuse us with the Armenians, they are the most long-suffering and oppressed by all wink
                  Georgia does not give them Javakh
                  Turkey cut them out
                  Enemies of Azerbaijan
                  They are forced to be friends with the Persians.
                  And the evil Russians sell gas to them dearly, bought up all their industry and devastates Armenia with a program of compatriots
          2. Uhe
            Uhe 23 August 2013 20: 28 New
            +4
            It doesn’t matter who is sitting, it is important who is behind. Chechens are behind the Most Important One, and Dagestanis are behind his accomplice. So you almost guessed what they are.

            At the same time, look at the lists of the richest people in the Russian Federation, the distribution of cash flows, and other indirect indicators.
            1. Anti
              Anti 23 August 2013 20: 34 New
              +1
              Yeah, the tabloid press is diligently involved in the total destruction of the ecology of minds. what
            2. smersh70
              smersh70 24 August 2013 00: 30 New
              +3
              Quote: Uhe
              At the same time, look at the lists of the richest people in the Russian Federation,


              it seems Abramovich is at the head ... and what ..... wassat
    3. Savva30
      Savva30 23 August 2013 21: 39 New
      0
      there was an article about the lawlessness of Chechen cops in Moscow. If I am not mistaken, Newspaper.
      1. Anti
        Anti 23 August 2013 22: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: Savva30
        If I am not mistaken, Newspaper


        This is where Latin is printed?
      2. smile
        smile 23 August 2013 22: 13 New
        +4
        Savva30
        I am not very good with former militants who have now become Chechen policemen .... but you could not find an even more false source of information than Novaya Gazeta? You need to be reminded of what a monstrous lie about the proud and honest Chechen warriors and vile bloody federals this .... newspaper carried during the Chechen wars? Do you remember how that brazen woman who bore the name Politkovskaya lied to us brazenly ... and who was later shot by the Chechens ... in gratitude, so to speak ... I read it from time to time to know what the enemies are lying about. ..but offhand I can’t name you a more deceitful newspaper ...
    4. ksan
      ksan 23 August 2013 22: 22 New
      +2
      The guys are a little off topic but I wanted to remind WE VOTE FOR KOLOMENSKY KREMLIN at RUSSIA-10 And then ............. It turns out - in Russia, most will pick up a mosque.
  2. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 23 August 2013 09: 06 New
    +9
    they have self-awareness at the level of an animal, it’s correct that they cannot organize production facilities, but there are enough show-offs for the whole world
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 23 August 2013 19: 22 New
      0
      Why, fair presentation ... But I don’t understand why we Neanderthals need you ..? What makes you care about us?
      1. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 23 August 2013 20: 39 New
        0
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        What makes you care about us?

        Humanity.
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 23 August 2013 21: 05 New
          +5
          God bless Russia! I don’t understand - in Russia, the common people of all nations have almost the same values ​​... but how did some people manage to get so angry at each other ..? Who needs this?
  3. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 23 August 2013 15: 27 New
    +2
    Now we are better prepared than in the 90s
  4. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 23 August 2013 15: 36 New
    +2
    There will be no fair Caucasian policy as long as the hidden tribute to the Caucasus continues. Federal money is stupidly given and stupidly sawed - that’s all politics. First you need to dot the "and". And they are very simple: 1st (Caucasian): this is our money, you pay us - we do not rebel. 2nd (Russian): this is our money, we pay you - we dance you.
    1. alone
      alone 23 August 2013 18: 31 New
      +9
      Quote: serge-68-68
      . Federal money is stupidly given and stupidly sawed - that’s all politics.


      so the fact is that because the huge money that goes to the Caucasus is not spent for its intended purpose. local officials get this money, take their shares, and the rest disappears. Do you think all this money settles in the pockets of local kings? It’s impossible to steal everything alone. such loners end badly. The whole system is automated. How much did Chechnya get for restoration? And what did they spend this amazing amount on? to the Kadyrov’s tower? or to the Kadyrov’s mosque? maybe on ramzan’s tuple? The Accounting Chamber can give the most correct answer. But 99% of the answer will not be.
  5. predator.3
    predator.3 23 August 2013 15: 44 New
    +9
    Watching how many Caucasians roam around Ufa and other cities of Russia, I have the opinion that the North Caucasian republics have long been depopulated!
  6. polly
    polly 23 August 2013 15: 55 New
    0
    The policy on creating jobs is still present, only some kind of strange. Here, for example, in Grozny there was a presentation of the layout of the Akhmat tower - a modern complex that will be erected as part of the Grozny City 2 project. Moreover, the tower claims to the title of the most technically complex building in the world, it is a unique object that has no analogue in the entire post-Soviet space. The building symbolizes the Chechen medieval watchtower. The height of the upper dome is 365 meters, and together with the spire it reaches 400 meters. The tower will have 80 floors, each of which will be 4,2 meters high. The complex also includes the Museum of the First President of the Chechen Republic, Hero of Russia Akhmat-Hadji Kadyrov, 100 apartments superior comfort, a hotel with five hundred rooms, panoramic restaurants with international culinary culture, offices, high-altitude helipads, fitness centers, swimming pools.
    This is just a layout, but it’s already clear - a grandiose construction is planned. According to the architects, the building will become the highest in the country, it is 220 meters above the Phoenix tower, which rises above the Grozny-City complex. During the construction, stone mined in the mountains of the Chechen Republic will be used.
    Financing will be carried out at the expense of investors. Up to 10 thousand jobs will be created at the construction stage and related industries.
    It seems that the Emirates decided to surpass!
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 23 August 2013 16: 15 New
      +8
      It will be a pity if again everything has to be destroyed. Then re-build
      1. Normal
        Normal 23 August 2013 19: 11 New
        10
        Quote: ivshubarin
        It will be a pity if again everything has to be destroyed.

        Not sorry.
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 23 August 2013 18: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: polly
      100 luxury apartments, a hotel with five hundred rooms, panoramic restaurants with international culinary culture, offices, high-altitude helipads, fitness centers, swimming pools.

      Who will buy these apartments, in a republic living on a subsidy, with absolute unemployment.
      Those who were able to squeeze money from the treasury! And those who could not ............ will live the old fashioned way
    3. grafrozow
      grafrozow 24 August 2013 00: 33 New
      0
      Quote: polly
      There is still a policy on job creation, only a strange one
      That's it, strange, and investors are all the same, the budget of the Russian Federation. New Vasyuki, damn it.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 25 August 2013 12: 12 New
        0
        Quote: grafrozow
        That's it, strange, and investors are all the same, the budget of the Russian Federation. New Vasyuki, damn it.

        If deputies ask Kadyrov for 50 years to rename Grozny to Kadyrov-City, I won’t be surprised
  7. Vtel
    Vtel 23 August 2013 15: 58 New
    +6
    And the North Caucasus Development Strategy proceeds from the idea that there are not enough jobs in the North Caucasus, which seems to be correct, but does not specify exactly which jobs

    “What kind of jobs is it, yes, give me money, or not kirdyk ...” - that’s the whole layout. Only strong Russia will be respected, and not a tribute that brings.
  8. Homo
    Homo 23 August 2013 15: 59 New
    +2
    I read these lines - ... Behind such statements is the complete failure of three Kremlin policies ... and has lost interest in the article. This is how White House advisers usually begin their speeches, and there is no desire to listen to the arguments of the "pro-American" politician.
  9. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 23 August 2013 16: 03 New
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    I once spoke with an elderly hereditary Kuban Cossack.
    So he said that his grandfather was explaining to him that Caucasians only understand power.
    The Cossacks had a rule, for one cut out Russian family, they chopped forty heads.
    Then it became calm. Lies or not, I don’t know ...
    But there are wise worthy and respected people. But it's not about them ...
    Politics in the Caucasus should be built on respect, but not on the humiliation of Russia in the first place.
    It infuriates when in the Russian cities in the evenings the highlanders dance on the streets and behave arrogantly like conquerors. Where does Caucasian phobia not appear here?
    I have a question for the first persons - how long do you intend to bend?

    News of the day: In the “Russia-10” vote on the first line, Akhmat Kadyrov’s Mosque “The Heart of Chechnya”, which recently outstripped the Kolomna Kremlin. I'm in shock ...
    Further, it will only get worse. It’s not necessary to forcefully climb the Caucasus.
    Here, in Russia itself, restore order. Let the Russian people live in peace.
    1. Orik
      Orik 23 August 2013 18: 52 New
      +8
      I think not lying, maybe only a figure. I myself read that after the raid of the Abreks, the Cossacks did not look for them themselves, and having identified the teip from which they cut out all the elders of these teip. Given the peculiar Islam of the Chechens, when according to their ideas what status a person held to death, he will hold such a posthumous fate, this solved the issue of raids for a long time, until the status of new elders grows up.
    2. Alexei
      Alexei 23 August 2013 19: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: Samsebenum
      It infuriates when in the Russian cities in the evenings the highlanders dance on the streets and behave arrogantly like conquerors. Where does Caucasian phobia not appear here?
      I have a question for the first persons - how long do you intend to bend?

      This is not a question for top officials, but for ordinary citizens until we piss. They went out, kicked off and that’s it. They dance from what they know - piss.
      1. Samsebenaum
        Samsebenaum 23 August 2013 20: 44 New
        +2
        Alexei
        Oh, Alex ... There is truth in your words ...
        But for me it is better that the riot police kicked. The reason is an unauthorized rally of protest. And with the law in harmony and other people's traditions are not imposed ...
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          1. Samsebenaum
            Samsebenaum 23 August 2013 23: 23 New
            +4
            CaptainBlack

            I think the riot police would love to cram a full basket of cradles, but those who snout to the vigil will watch "from above", because they have their share in
            illegal immigrants.
            I do not think that the scheme there is complicated or conspiracy. If you wish, you can easily take them for the loin and yes to the Vladimir Central for 10-15 years.
            I heard rumors that we are struggling with corruption and bribery. Is that really true?
      2. coserg 2012
        coserg 2012 24 August 2013 19: 55 New
        0
        From the beginning, do not piss, but when after the monkey for the third or fourth time they will release the probability that you urinate with blood is very high.
    3. Normal
      Normal 23 August 2013 19: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Samsebenum
      News of the day:

      Greetings, Valery. This is not news of the day. There was an article "Tolerance defeated both Russian history and common sense" on this topic.
      "Fought" there with the "comrades" from the Caucasus.
      Quote: Samsebenum
      I have a question for the first persons - how long do you intend to bend?

      To the "victorious" the end , as known.
      Questions asked by the authorities in the form of text are simply ignored by the authorities.
      Quote: Samsebenum
      Let the Russian people live in peace.


      No one will give us deliverance.
      Neither God, nor king, nor hero
      We will achieve liberation
      With his own hand.
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 23 August 2013 20: 09 New
        +3
        Quote: Normal
        "Fought" there with the "comrades" from the Caucasus.
        - with the "comrades", say ... Vladimir, you only feel normal when there is a confrontation. Have you noticed? Not?
        1. Normal
          Normal 23 August 2013 22: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: DAGESTANETS333
          - with the "comrades", say ...

          Well, here is the "comrade", easy on sight ...
          Quote: DAGESTANETS333
          You only feel normal when there is a confrontation. Have you noticed? Not?

          No, Mogomed, did not notice. I will say more; I felt much more “normal” before you appeared, without confrontation, but if I can’t live without it, then I don’t intend to retreat. Once, one acquaintance of the “side man” complained about a bottle of beer; "Mordovians ... strange people ... all the time on their own wave ..." Well, now, I’m the father of Mordvin and repeat to you; do not impose. In places "not so distant" this phrase sounds tougher and easier to understand, but the rules of the site and natural politeness do not allow me to bring it in the original.
          If you want a confrontation, then you are always welcome. If you offer a compromise, then I think this is a common Caucasian tactic, when it was not possible to impose one’s opinion abruptly and impossibly with physical force, then a Caucasian always tries to pretend to be a shirt guy, almost a friend, and deceive a relaxed, softened Russian. Further, a known development of the situation; the Caucasian persuades and deceives the Russian, convinces him that the interests of the Caucasian are the interests of the Russian. That the Russian himself does not understand how he will feel good if he listens to the Caucasian and believes him; "I swear by mom!"
          It's not gonna go. You are far from the first Caucasian with whom I had to communicate. There is experience. Understanding своих My interests are clear and concrete. Do not breed and do not impose.
          1. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 23 August 2013 23: 29 New
            +1
            So ... I see ... you can’t be fooled ... I’ll go further, maybe I’ll be lucky with others ... ah, I forgot .. - After all, others have read your post ... now they are in the know ... (( ((((and here the Dagestan understood - this is a failure ...)

            Quote: Normal
            Caucasian always tries to pretend to be a shirt guy

            - maybe for some people I’m a shirt guy, but for people as smart as you, I will be akin to reflection in the mirror - you decided to wave your sword, your reflection (I mean), also brandishes a sword. Decide to sheathe the sword, your humble servant synchronizes with you, the same action. In my opinion, everything is honest.
            1. Normal
              Normal 24 August 2013 00: 31 New
              0
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              So ... I see ... you can’t be fooled ... I’m going on, maybe I’ll be lucky with others

              Well, what is left for you? Just joke.
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              for such smart ones as you, I will be akin to reflection in the mirror - you decided to wave your sword, your reflection (that is, I) also swings the sword.

              No need for damage, Magomed. With a sword, that is, a saber of Dagestan, you waved the last time:
              OR RUSSIANS, HONESTLY AND JUST, BEGIN WITH YOURSELF, TO ENSURE THE MORAL AND LEGAL EQUALITY OF ALL PEOPLES, OR PERSONALLY ME, FUCK DOESN'T NEED SUCH PEDIUM UNION !!!

              And they tried to deceive, breed:
              But guys, the way you react to a random advantage in favor of the mosque showed how disgusting we non-Russians are to you ... Honestly ... I'm destroyed ...
              O Allah, make the Russian cultural monument become the symbol of Russia! Otherwise, the Russians, us, Untermensch, will crush and despise even more!
              .......
              Impudent lie !!! The mosque really wins by chance, only because of the 100 million! Russian, even 10 million too lazy!

              And tried to impose their point of view:
              Caucasians do not want to be above all! Caucasians want to be equal and only equal! .....

              As soon as we make an attempt to become equal to the Russian in the moral and legal sense, we are exposed to all-Russian persecution, with completely unjust statements that we are upstarts and want to be above all! We stutter about equality, and the Russians instantly accuse us of striving for excellence! Isn't that hypocrisy ?!
            2. Normal
              Normal 24 August 2013 00: 33 New
              0
              I didn’t wave my sword, I just pulled a Russian ax from a belt on a long handle and leaned on it and asked you a few questions:
              Impudent lie! The number of votes cast for the mosque exceeds the population of Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia and Kabardino-Balkaria taken together, including infants. Did it happen by chance?
              ........
              Are Caucasians not equal to Russians in the legal and moral sense? What is this expressed in? Caucasians are discriminated against, they are not allowed into cafes and restaurants, they are not accepted to universities, they are not hired, they are not allowed to trade? Are Caucasians deprived of the right to vote and do not have the rights of Russian citizens?
              ........
              That is, when the Caucasians kill Russians in Moscow or the Tatar in Pugachev, beat the deputy and threatens him with a gun, break the skull of an operative while detaining their relative, accused of attempted rape, is it that the Caucasians only want to become equal to the Russians in the legal and moral sense?

              And summed up:
              We have our own, well-established and confirmed by dozens of examples opinion about Caucasians and we don’t need to breed us. Do not impose.

              You have not answered any of my questions.
              Not a single statement of mine was disputed, but talked about a compromise.
              What is a compromise in the understanding of the Caucasian, I wrote to you today.
              You cannot be a mirror. I live in the interfluve of the Moscow River and Protva. The ending “VA” in Finno-Ugric languages ​​means “water”. So I live on my father’s land and the land of my ancestors, I don’t go to the Caucasus, I don’t dance to the squats on the streets of Grozny and Makhachkala, I don’t bother Caucasian girls I don’t indicate how Dagestanis and Chechens live in their homeland. I want one; so that you do not climb to us. But all is not enough for you. You have little money. You want blood. Well, whoever wants to achieve that ...
              1. DAGESTAN333
                DAGESTAN333 24 August 2013 01: 35 New
                +1
                Well ... I see, with you, everything turns into "Du-cancer! Do-cancer itself!" I just hope that you use such tactics to achieve justice, and not just "drag yourself" with a manic senseless argument (I actually thought so).
                Quote: Normal
                He didn’t wave his sword, but only pulled a Russian ax on a long handle from his belt, and leaning on it, he asked you several questions

                - (starting to do the same)
                Quote: Normal
                Well, what is left for you? Just joke.
                - do not be so sure.
                Quote: Normal
                Impudent lie! The number of votes cast for the mosque exceeds the population of Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia and Kabardino-Balkaria taken together, including infants. Did it happen by chance?
                - stupid for her !!! Muslims from all over Russia can vote ... And how many Muslims in Russia ..?
                Quote: Normal
                Are Caucasians not equal to Russians in the legal and moral sense? What is this expressed in? Caucasians are discriminated against, they are not allowed into cafes and restaurants, they are not accepted to universities, they are not hired, they are not allowed to trade? Are Caucasians deprived of the right to vote and do not have the rights of Russian citizens?
                - I will repost my comment. - Let's talk about symbolism? For example, on the village council building of my village, the Russian tricolor flutters. The question is - why should I have a symbol in my house that historically is not mine? Why should the Russian ancient sign be the symbol of Russia? No, no problem - the symbol is beautiful, flawless! I am personally satisfied! I agree to accept the symbol of the brotherly people! But why, when they choose a national symbol, say, the next time, the Russian is outraged when the opportunity to choose a symbol close to my soul is on the agenda? Don't I relate to Russia? Are my values ​​not equivalent to the values ​​of Russian? I understand that in a country where there are more Russians than all, it should be in Russian - rightly! But the values ​​of national minorities do not have a right to exist at all? Even sometimes?
                Quote: Normal
                That is, when the Caucasians kill Russians in Moscow or the Tatar in Pugachev, beat the deputy and threatens him with a gun, break the skull of an operative while detaining their relative, accused of attempted rape, is it that the Caucasians only want to become equal to the Russians in the legal and moral sense?
                - Well, if we are all frostbitten for you, then our dialogue does not make sense. But essentially, of course, this is extremely unacceptable. And do not attribute your distorted understanding of equality to us.
                Quote: Normal
                We have our own, well-established and confirmed by dozens of examples opinion about Caucasians and we don’t need to breed us. Do not impose
                - hmm .., again, an attempt to palm off personal opinion as an internationally recognized constant ...
                Quote: Normal
                and talked about a compromise
                - But you and I can just spit on each other’s opinions too ... Don't you think?
                1. DAGESTAN333
                  DAGESTAN333 24 August 2013 01: 36 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Normal
                  I don’t dance in the squat on the streets of Grozny and Makhachkala, I don’t bother Caucasian girls
                  - This is our very big minus. I agree.
                  Quote: Normal
                  And I don’t indicate how Dagestanis and Chechens live in their homeland
                  - I ... I don’t know what’s in your head ... But ideally, the laws of the Russian Federation should work in Dagestan and throughout the Caucasus.
                  Quote: Normal
                  You want blood. Well, whoever wants to achieve that ...
                  - No, people like me want to push such robots away from hearing opponents like you aside, find people who hear other people, and try to discuss the transnational issue with them.
          2. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 24 August 2013 00: 02 New
            +2
            Quote: Normal
            I felt much more “normal” before you appeared, without confrontation, but if you can’t do it without me, then I don’t intend to retreat

            - and you are an arrogant old man ... Attributing your "merits" to your opponent is aerobatics ...
            I AM! I offer mutual understanding! But YOU! safely did not notice my post (in the topic about the symbol of Russia).
            1. Normal
              Normal 24 August 2013 01: 27 New
              0
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              - and you arrogant old man ...

              This is the Dagestani says to the Mordvin .... laughing Why am I not surprised? Of course, the Mordvins are completely arrogant, but you did not know? They constantly impose their will on everyone, put themselves above everyone else, “face”, again, they dance on Russian tricolors. And when the Mordovian wedding rolls around Makhachkala .... they shoot immediately from anti-aircraft guns. Merya-Vse-Mordva-Muroma-Meshchera has unbelted Where does the president look?
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              I AM! I offer mutual understanding!

              Yes, I’m tired of explaining to you already that I EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND YOU, and you won’t understand how.
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              But YOU! safely did not notice my post (in the topic about the symbol of Russia).

              Yes, I noticed everything. Only the theme "symbol of Russia" generally went beyond the bounds of decency for the day; the number of votes for the Mosque jumped by 3 lemas.
              And about the compromise, I once wrote to you:
              Only separate accommodation .... and friendship houses.
              You are visiting me - we ask for bread and salt. I’m visiting you - cut a ram, and each of us lives with his own mind and with his own charter. Then the world between us will be when we will not climb into each other’s house. I agree?
              1. DAGESTAN333
                DAGESTAN333 24 August 2013 01: 46 New
                +3
                Quote: Normal
                This is a Dagestan to the Mordvin who says ...

                - Well, of course kaneshno ... Mordvin, in principle, can not be arrogant .... yeah ..
                Quote: Normal
                Of course, the Mordvins are completely arrogant, but you did not know?

                - Well, I had in mind, only you personally ..
                - What is this, you want to say, in Dagestan then, it’s completely arrogant? But is it not a clinic already ..?
                1. DAGESTAN333
                  DAGESTAN333 24 August 2013 01: 59 New
                  0
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  Only separate accommodation .... and friendship at home. You are visiting me - bread and salt, and you are welcome. I’m visiting you - cut a ram, and we each live in our own mind and with our own charter. Then the world between us will be when we will not climb into each other’s house. I agree?
                  - in principle, I agree. Well, at least so. And then, pretend to be a robot here .., from the principle they imposed on me the tactics of kilometer comments ..)))
                2. Normal
                  Normal 24 August 2013 02: 33 New
                  +1
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  Mordvin, in principle, can not be arrogant .... yeah ..

                  In principle, it can. But you understand me ....
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  - Well, I had in mind, only you personally ..

                  Similarly, I, too, personally meant you.
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  But is it not a clinic already ..?

                  The clinic denies the arrogant, boorish behavior of Caucasians in Russia and argues that
                  Caucasians do not want to be above all! Caucasians want to be equal and only equal! .....
                  As soon as we make an attempt to become equal to the Russian in the moral and legal sense, we are exposed to all-Russian persecution, with completely unjust statements that we are upstarts and want to be above all! We stutter about equality, and the Russians instantly accuse us of striving for excellence!
                  ......
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333

                  hmm .., again, an attempt to palm off personal opinion as an internationally recognized constant ...

                  And here is an internationally recognized constant? Where did I state this? I expressed my opinion, and I am sure that not only my opinion, in response to your attempts to impose your point of view on me.
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  - No, people like me want to push such robots away from hearing opponents like you aside, find people who hear other people, and try to discuss the transnational issue with them.

                  This is what I am writing to you for the tenth time. You want to push aside all those who disagree with you, who do not succumb to your pressure or divorce, all who do not want to give up their interests in favor of your interests. You want to find people who are ready to sell their homeland and give up the interests of the indigenous population of Russia in favor of the “Friendship of Peoples” and the Caucasus, for which, for some reason, this friendship with the Russians is almost gone, as are the Russians themselves. Here with such people you want to discuss the interethnic issue. What do you want to discuss? Sizes of subsidies to the Caucasus? Questions settlement Caucasians in Russia?
                  Announce the entire list please, then it will immediately become clear what you are achieving.
                  If you do not want to communicate with the "robot", then no one forces you.
                  I expressed my point of view on the problem. You too.
                  They all dispersed ....


                  Until the next "performance" of your youth ....
                  1. DAGESTAN333
                    DAGESTAN333 24 August 2013 12: 41 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Normal
                    Similarly, I, too, personally meant you.

                    - It seemed to me that with you, it is necessary in your own style. But .. it turned out that it was you in my style who decided to "talk". Now I understand ...
                    Quote: Normal
                    The clinic denies the arrogant, boorish behavior of Caucasians in Russia and argues that
                    - there was only a request not to generalize all Caucasians.
                    Quote: Normal
                    You want to find people willing to sell their homeland and give up the interests of the indigenous population of Russia in favor of the “Friendship of Peoples” and the Caucasus

                    - I do not accept the charge. I am looking for capable, true friendship of peoples.
                    Quote: Normal
                    and the Caucasus, on which, for some reason, this friendship with the Russians was almost gone

                    - speak for yourself. I don’t believe that everything is so bad.
                    Quote: Normal
                    Announce the entire list please, then it will immediately become clear what you are achieving.
                    - roughly speaking - to gather all thinking from different nations, decide on the concept of Justice, and begin to embody justice by all joint forces.
                    Here is my real opinion, and the rest of the rhetoric, often, was just a desire to annoy you, (supposedly in response). Sorry.

                    And yet, you called me a sham shirt guy. It's a shame.
      2. Samsebenaum
        Samsebenaum 23 August 2013 20: 34 New
        +3
        Normal

        My friend, according to the first point, I just noticed today, my "cant".
        According to the latter, it is true if you do not pay attention that this is essentially a call for revolution. This is not acceptable in the topic under discussion.
        A peaceful life should be ensured by the Guarantor. He took the oath.
        This is an appeal to him.
        But he, apparently, is more concerned with the life of cranes and tigers ...
        1. Normal
          Normal 23 August 2013 22: 57 New
          +4
          Quote: Samsebenum
          essentially a call for revolution.

          No, Valery, this is a call to action. Revolution is extreme, I am against revolution. But how then to make the authorities reckon with the interests of ordinary people, population, people, Russians if we take the national question? It’s very simple (actually not at all simple) to TEST against infringement of our interests.
          The pro-authorities will say: go to court and defend your interests. But in conditions when the budget for the judicial system is being imposed in the presidential administration, this proposal sounds like "go to x ..."
          Political technologists and lured will say: form parties, go to the polls, win and rule! But in conditions when the presidential administration decides when and how the elections will be held, who will conduct the vote count and publication of the results, the elections turn into farce and mockery.
          It remains either to wipe and endure, or to go out and protest.
          Either the population will force the government to reckon with itself, or in Russia there will be another population
          Quote: Samsebenum
          But he, apparently, is more concerned with the life of cranes and tigers ...

          It is necessary to make him respect the interests of the population no less than the interests of cranes and tigers.
          Otherwise, sooner or later, there will be a revolution
  10. Flooding
    Flooding 23 August 2013 16: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: Samsebenum
    I have a question for the first persons - how long do you intend to bend?

    Oh come on. Are the first faces bent? For them, domestic policy is a big business project.
    The people intend to bend, but not their proud vyy.
  11. ed65b
    ed65b 23 August 2013 16: 43 New
    10
    Yes, the fact that the Russians dropped below the plinth is true. Frankly laugh at us, not only our chur..e but all sorts of "fraternal peoples" Only the field of how the empty dog ​​blood begins to rise.
  12. optimist
    optimist 23 August 2013 17: 00 New
    +3
    At present, for our b-bourgeois authorities, the IC is, at a minimum, this: 1) The endless possibilities of cutting state dough. 2) "146%" for the putler and his accomplices, edrosov. 3) The use of Caucasians as a guardianship and protection from the Russians (in which case). And are there really naive people who hope to restore order by the current government? It's not about the possibilities, but about the desires! “Divide and conquer,” is the slogan of the current government. And the fact that millions of Russians (and Caucasians themselves) suffer - they don’t care ...
  13. Yeraz
    Yeraz 23 August 2013 17: 36 New
    +6
    It will be difficult, but rather impossible, to return the Russian cadres, is there a local cadre there accompanied by a huge cart full of food packed to the brim, what will the Russian cadre do there, accompanied by tanks and aircraft ??
    It’s not about the people at all, they don’t see these injections, otherwise they wouldn’t go to work in other regions. It’s all about the officials in Moscow and their local brothers who put in normal staff and it’s not important Russian or whatever, but just normal and everything will be normal. And so, instead of a conditional Chechen corrupt official, a Russian corrupt official will come. Will something change? No.
  14. Egor.nic
    Egor.nic 23 August 2013 18: 17 New
    +3
    Fundamentally, the author is right. Only now, there is one but. Jobs in the Caucasus should not be created at the expense of Russian taxpayers, but only from the internal funds of these regions. In addition, the level of remuneration of this local bureaucracy and the costs of its maintenance should be regulated at the legislative level. Any investments in the Caucasian regions, if they are especially necessary, must be made on a repayable basis and for a fixed period of time, subject to control of execution. For failure to comply, indicating or legislation of the Russian Federation must be severely punished. There should be no babbling with anyone.
    Otherwise, given the current situation, in the near future Russia may not receive Pugachev, but a Pugachev uprising throughout the country, with total genocide of all Caucasians for another 300 years.
    It’s better not to anger the Russian bear.
    1. washi
      washi 23 August 2013 18: 27 New
      0
      Why do Caucasians invest in the development of their region, aul?
      1. alone
        alone 23 August 2013 18: 43 New
        +5
        the rollback is so big that, rather, all these funds go only to a bribe. And to invest in business, you need to have family ties with the top. You have a hard time understanding this, but the Caucasus has its own peculiarities. Corruption in the region is rampant. that can invest in other regions. Surely there will be less appetites for officials)
    2. Alexei
      Alexei 23 August 2013 18: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: Egor.nic
      It’s better not to anger the Russian bear.

      You wanted to say "don't wake up"? Oh and our bear sleeps soundly.
  15. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 23 August 2013 18: 17 New
    +1
    Against the background of lack of development, the fall of education rises the ROC. Does it not turn out that the vague concept of "who are Russians" will find its definition in the formula - are Russians those who belong to the Russian Orthodox Church? And this will lead to a serious social rift?

    Apparently, the author of the article does not consider himself a member of the Russian Orthodox Church, and is categorically against the participation of its representatives in resolving the issue. That's just in what field is he going to this problem. In the legal, by force method? But we went through all this and, unfortunately, lost. The Caucasian peoples are peoples who profess Islam all the way and the attempt of atheist officials to solve the problem in the legal field is doomed to failure. For the Caucasus, the word of a religious leader, at times, means more than the word of an official from Moscow (and the venality of officials is known to everyone). The Russian Orthodox Church (and not the Russian Orthodox Church as the author contemptuously writes) is the flesh of the flesh of the RUSSIAN PEOPLE, the history of the church is the history of the Russian state. That is why she must and has every right to speak on behalf of the RUSSIAN PEOPLE, and I ask you to note that in the church there is no national division "... there is neither Greek nor Judea ... but everything is Christ in everything" (Col. 3,11).
    For the Caucasus, the word of a religious leader sometimes means more than the word of an official from Moscow (and the venality of officials is known to everyone).
    Now about saying that
    Russians are over ethnic education; they are those who live in the Russian language and serve Russian statehood.
    generally looks kind of weird. As you know, in the Caucasus they know the Russian language well (the result of the last USE), again, officials in the Caucasus serve Russian statehood, at least they say so, but something hasn’t yet “merged”, as they say today. So in what plane does the author call for a solution to the Caucasus issue,
    recreate industry, culture, agriculture, etc.,
    . Well, but it was all in the Soviet Union, the Caucasus region was the most developed, with the latest generation of machine tools in the factories. Yes, and with logistical support everything was in order, and these peoples never starved in the USSR (even when "sausage trains" went to Moscow), but the events of the nineties showed what they showed. So the solution to the question is most likely not here. Well, what you need to start
    with the correction of flagrant injustice, in particular with respect to Lieutenant Arakcheev.
    generally somehow strange. I’m not saying that it’s not necessary to decide the fate of Lieutenant Arakcheev, and I sincerely feel sorry for him, but this issue belongs to the field of jurisprudence (the lieutenant has become a hostage to the game of unscrupulous officials) and certainly will not solve the Caucasian problem. So what is the author of the article still calling for, personally, I still do not understand.
  16. creak
    creak 23 August 2013 18: 17 New
    +8
    It turns out that only Kadyrov can decide the fate of Lieutenant Arakcheev? Are there any other authorities? The policy of cheap flirting with the Caucasus, the lack of a clear migration policy and ignoring the interests of the Russian population is a policy of ethnic suicide ... This is just what some countries of Western Europe have already committed, our government seems to be impatient to do the same. Russia is not Norway, the consequences can be much more tragic ...
  17. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 23 August 2013 18: 48 New
    +3
    It’s terrible in itself that liberals such as Surkov’s betrayal of the interests of the Russian people, their vile oppression. But apparently these newly-born "prophets" have forgotten how such experiments on the Russian people end. Yes, it can be bent, but never broken, to those who still have it I didn’t understand. When he straightened, he would sweep away everything and everything. And since when did the head of the region replace the Supreme Judicial and State authorities, where are you the respected Guarantor of the Constitution? Understand and make a fair decision about the fate of your subordinate and defender!
  18. darksoul
    darksoul 23 August 2013 19: 54 New
    +4
    Quote: Normal
    I have a question for the first persons - how long do you intend to bend?


    I don’t get directly to the first persons, only through the anus ... I explain: there was a problem ... let's solve it together ... let the person write on the social networks the ugly situation with the guests of the northern Caucasus Caucasus ... I think many will support, help .... and after clarification of the relationship and the media will connect, then the authorities will have to face the people and not wed ... but ... what to turn ..... dissatisfaction has matured for a long time behaving impudently especially in the south, everything representatives of the Caucasus .. why so ... upbringing ... another way of thinking ... there were a lot of cars with the flags of Armenia, the emblem of the Circassians, crescents .... right now I'm more and more appearing rusich, kolovorot, war russia .. let's remember who we, help and respect each other, but our government .... the time will come and it will turn out that someone will have a great-grandmother who is a great-grandmother was Jewish and homeland ... not to raise our Russia to them
    1. Normal
      Normal 23 August 2013 23: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: darksoul
      Quote: Normal
      I have a question for the first persons - how long do you intend to bend?

      The quote is not mine.
      Quote: darksoul
      right now I’m more and more appearing Rusich, rotting, war Russia .. let's remember who we are, help and respect each other,

      I completely agree and support, only the "Kolovrat" is correct
  19. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    NOBODY EXCEPT US 23 August 2013 20: 22 New
    +3
    A sensible article ..... not without undue anxiety, but it's all about the case, I don’t know where Putin is looking, but most likely I wrote before my host friends, ,,,, the king is played by the retinue ,,,,, the old political the credo ....... it’s everywhere in the world and we are no exception, from here there are many contradictory acts of it, one thing says, and the government poses it differently, the usual policy of blowing dust into the eyes of the people, well, from time to time, CAM gives to whom catch something like that for a look and the people immediately well, the king is our flint ..... ,,,. and things are still there .... Well, as for the Czechs and others, I’ll say this, I was very close to them at one time "they only respect strength and are not afraid of anything because boys in the Caucasus are never punished, unlike their upbringing in Russia ...... so I think it will be very hot, although I have friends from there who have experienced a lot .. ..
  20. PPO-1980
    PPO-1980 23 August 2013 21: 16 New
    +1
    R.K. like Shamil, and in the north. another Ermolov. And next to the mosque (or on) something like the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. And call Joseph for a qualified consultation about the Caucasus (he knew how).
  21. Savva30
    Savva30 23 August 2013 21: 40 New
    +1
    The situation here is that when two years ago I began asking high-ranking officials how to help Lieutenant Arakcheev, I might further understand the matter and reconsider the court’s decision, then strangely enough, everyone, as if by agreement, began to explain that in vain I took up this matter, that it was “rotten,” because, they say, “Kadyrov will be against, and no one wants to mess with him.”
    CHILDREN-BABIES RULE OUR PEOPLE ... WHILE RULE ...
  22. morprepud
    morprepud 23 August 2013 22: 09 New
    0
    The answer to the question from "Lone1"
    and do you think now in the Kremlin who sits and rules Russia? Dagestanis or Yakuts?

    Before "grinding" thoughts about the impossibility of Russians to defend themselves or why his government does not help him ... DO NOT have to go far, but JUST remember (or read) our ancient history, when RUSSIANS always forgave me for being mean and insulting from other nationalities . The point is in our FAITH, which stands firmly on holiness, I do not want now to sort out all the commandments or callings from the Bible. BUT, one of the most important and the very first: “Love your neighbor!” - this is what makes Russia with its Russian holiness. THIS IS THE FIRST! And secondly, Holy Russia has always protected all small nations and nationalities, like the Great Nation, regardless of their faith (180 nationalities!) And development. They were always sent doctors, teachers, etc. And demanded that their rulers be people of their own nationalities. The latest example from the USSR. Not looking at the ridicule "from Europe."
    And now, unfortunately, ignorance of the Russian language (and therefore ignorance) leads to the usual natural "methods of profit and survival." Of course, this "enthusiasm" of the younger generation from the minority will pass over time. By the way, it is already beginning to pass when they saw that I can do Pentagon Democrats with them. The best LESSON for them, for life, for all nationalities and ages is Libya and Syria. But for us Russians, we don’t need to once again pour ashes on our heads. And so it is clear from history that not a single nation in the world has yet been engaged in so much and truly Saiocriticism or self-flagellation! WE, HOLY RUSSIA, love your Neighbor and forgive him (nat. Minority) recklessness, HUSBAND Russian !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
    And forgive me old ...
  23. Humpty
    Humpty 23 August 2013 22: 14 New
    +1
    Why only Caucasian politics? I live on Russian land, which was repulsed by villains spoiling the lives of all neighbors, after which I was bought for Russian money from the local nobility. But to the Russian leadership the problems and aspirations of Russians are not only on our side, in the railway dead end of Central Asia, but also on the modern, castrated territory of Russia.
  24. individual
    individual 23 August 2013 22: 28 New
    +3
    The publication raises acute questions of the internal interethnic structure of Russia.
    Obviously, this cannot go on.
    If the government does not resolve the situation, then it will be ruined by crooks and villains earning political points of their own ambitions. And the peoples will be cannon fodder to solve their problems.
  25. Imigrantt
    Imigrantt 23 August 2013 23: 02 New
    -2
    Quote: CaptainBlack
    Stalin spent 3 days, and 18 fighters for their eviction! And our government spent 10 years, $ 40 billion, and 15 thousand Russian lives for their "prosperity" !!!

    A picture of the heel in the heel! They had to be torn for a long time! They are just fucking crazy! Olympics is that such a sign ?! Well, let this event already take place, well, after that, really let them crap in full! And do not let go until the end !!! What would the "proud jackals" at the level of instincts remember who is the boss in the house !!!
  26. Normal
    Normal 23 August 2013 23: 16 New
    +1
    The article is so controversial and voluminous that it is difficult to express one’s attitude to what is written in one comment. In some ways, I agree with the author, but somewhere I feel some naivety, not adulthood or something. Maybe I'll get the nerve laughing and try to write an answer to Yuri Krupnov in the form of an article
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 23 August 2013 23: 22 New
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      Quote: Normal
      Perhaps I’ll get the audacity laughing and try to write an answer to Yuri Krupnov in the form of an article

      Well, pick up, Vladimir. I’ll read it with pleasure, and perhaps even oppose you. hi
      (even taking into account the fact that we are in “one trench”)
      1. Normal
        Normal 23 August 2013 23: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: Garrin
        Well, pick up, Vladimir.

        Well, they’ve already caught the tongue laughing I have to write.
        1. Normal
          Normal 24 August 2013 02: 51 New
          -1
          Well, instead of answering Krupnov, I had to answer DAGESTAN333. negative
          Time is lost, sleep ....
  27. alabin
    alabin 23 August 2013 23: 41 New
    0
    ,, Russians are a supra-ethnic entity, they are those who live in the Russian language and serve Russian statehood. Therefore, instead of cultivating genuine Russianness, they destroy the Russian people from all sides as the basis of Russian statehood. \\ Krupnov \\

    YES! We went from Baltic to quiet YES, we gave the world great scientists, writers, composers, we flew into space, this is the third Rome. You need this. nor do we require you to be honored. WE ASK - RESPECT !!! while we ask .....
  28. Buran
    Buran 24 August 2013 03: 59 New
    +1
    Something will be, and it will be very bad. The country as a teapot slowly but surely boils. All these national entities do not seem to understand that all their greatness and might end stupidly massacre. As soon as our blood people taste it, stopping it will be awesome as not easy.
    Now is not the beginning of the nineties, then people were taken aback, relaxed by Soviet international politics. Now two thousandths, the FAS team and from Central Asia to the Kuril Islands will tolerate all the tolerance of some on the tonsils.
  29. shpuntik
    shpuntik 24 August 2013 06: 32 New
    +2
    It began with a model that Surkov designed thirteen years ago.
    It consists of two parts. First: the artificial elevation of national minorities and the creation of an artificial so-called "Russian nationalism", which can scare everyone.

    Here, Aunt Surkova:
  30. bilgesez
    bilgesez 24 August 2013 11: 30 New
    +1
    While Putin pleases the Caucasians and Asians, we lose our brothers Ukrainians and Belarusians.
  31. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 12: 19 New
    +2
    Quote: CaptainBlack
    Stalin spent 3 days, and 18 fighters for their eviction! And our government spent 10 years, $ 40 billion, and 15 thousand Russian lives for their "prosperity" !!!

    It’s that you approve of the forcible deportation of almost all the Caucasian wards, which then killed the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent women and children, who then suffered a lot from the hands of the Nazis in 1941-43, then and now it will be unfair to those people who are now working in the Caucasus to earn bread for their family and they are also ready to die in the name of their homeland. You should know that dozens of Caucasian peoples were deported because of the slander of Beria and his comrades, while tens of thousands of Caucasian men and guys fought and died in the war along with the Russians and now the elderly are people who have seen deportation with their own eyes so far continue to love and respect Stalin despite the fact that he ordered to deport them all. And this deportation is fully included in the definition of genocide. So take that into account. And do not put all the peoples of the Caucasus under the same framework because hundreds of Caucasian boys are stupid because the generation of the 90s has grown incorrectly. One should not assume that the guys in Kavakaz are the same, they are also day and night in order to feed their family too.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 24 August 2013 14: 48 New
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      Not hundreds of thousands, but millions, or even billions. Well, all the numbers are already open, how much this liberoid nonsense can carry.
  32. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 24 August 2013 13: 11 New
    +1
    Tired of this endless chatter about Caucasians, migrants and the Olympics. When Russia got the right to host the Olympics, I was on vacation with my parents in the Kuban, I met a not-so-mentally healthy person on the street (apparently a local “freak”), so he was very happy the olympiad, he and our officials. The fact that the money allocated to the republics from the budget is stolen is an obvious fact. Moreover, I think they’re starting to take it away in Moscow, and, of course, all kinds of show-offs in the form of expensive cars, mansions, etc. etc., and for the people, here’s a megabyte for you! So that they all see, they’ve got money (and if they stole three times as much while they were building, try to prove it in court) I come from Grozny, my father was born there and great-grandfather, this city was once Russian, the key word was. In today's realities, I agree to return there only with arms in my hands and subject to war to a victorious end, without moratoria, negotiations, amnesties, all who are against us expense and period. Otherwise, it will go on for a very long time and every political or economic turmoil in Russia will rebel in the Caucasus. I think that Yevkurov and Abdulatipov are smart people who want good for their compatriots, but they cannot cope with the existing one It’s simply unrealistic to put things in order with the position of the Russian government and the simply monstrous mercantile interest of officials of all stripes. With regard to migrants, they simply have passports and visas, a worked out mechanism for deporting to their historical Motherland, and finally close the borders with the former Soviet republics Ami, it’s already 20 years as other states! "Russian fascism" appeared in response to the aggression of the Nazis, let me prove the opposite! If Russia is in for a catastrophe, it’s not from an external enemy, but from internal destructive national and migration policies and their root causes-corrupt officials.
  33. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 13: 17 New
    0
    Quote: Tupolev-95
    If a catastrophe awaits Russia, it’s not from an external enemy, but from the internal destructive national and migration policies and their root causes, corrupt officials.

    So already once in these God and the people themselves the damned 1990s and all because of Gorbachev Yeltsin Chubais and other pro-Western liberals sad
  34. alicante11
    alicante11 24 August 2013 14: 05 New
    0
    But I don’t understand, WHY should the Russians return to Chechnya? To have new hostages? And new victims in case of new showdowns with the center?
    And in general WHY climb to them? WHY create jobs for those who DO NOT WANT to work. Well, they don’t know how! After all, even under the USSR they did not work for the most part - Caucasians. They traded, shabbat, stole (everyone heard about Georgian thieves in law, or rather, about their number), and the Russians who lived there worked.
    I will be asked. What to do? Let go or what? Well no! Just use according to their mentality. If every boy in the Caucasus is put a knife in the cradle, then who can they be if not soldiers? Create national military units where they will serve not for a year or two, but 5-10-25 years. And then retire and live peacefully in their mountains. Everyone must live where he was born. And nefig mix nationalities.
  35. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 14: 16 New
    0
    Quote: alicante11
    And in general WHY climb to them? WHY create jobs for those who DO NOT WANT to work. Well, they don’t know how! After all, even under the USSR they did not work for the most part - Caucasians. They traded, shabbat, stole (everyone heard about Georgian thieves in law, or rather, about their number), and the Russians who lived there worked.
    I will be asked. What to do? Let go or what? Well no! Just use according to their mentality. If every boy in the Caucasus is put a knife in the cradle, then who can they be if not soldiers? Create national military units where they will serve not for a year or two, but 5-10-25 years. And then retire and live peacefully in their mountains. Everyone must live where he was born. And nefig mix nationalities.

    In the Caucasus, even as they work, I myself live in the Caucasus; there they work just as well as others to earn money, like everyone else, houses are built there, and modern ones, so not all money is stolen. if you weren’t, I advise you to visit any republic in Chechnya, Karachay-Cherkessia, Dagestan, Ingushetia, the Caucasus is being built, the Caucasus is working.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 24 August 2013 14: 24 New
      0
      Kadyrov agreed to the 400 meter skyscraper!
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 24 August 2013 14: 41 New
      +1
      It depends on what you call work. Trading for them is also work. You judge by the Caucasus, and I judge by those who came to Khabarovsk. For one shoemaker who makes shoes and keys in the house where I used to live, I see several dozen traders who do not let peasants and farmers into the city, which is why I buy children local fruits and vegetables more expensive than Chinese. In this case, the farmers themselves get a penny and go broke.
  36. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 14: 50 New
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    But this is already very bad. We have to deal with this. We also trade here, but the competition is not so fierce. In the Caucasus, people work differently, who graze sheep, who collect potatoes, the vast majority of the population is engaged in this, so they work in the same professions that the entire population of RUSSIA is engaged in.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 24 August 2013 15: 05 New
      +1
      Well, grazing sheep and picking potatoes is still not building cities and factories and not launching rockets into space.
  37. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 24 August 2013 15: 13 New
    0
    I agree with you that the local specialists go abroad because of a low salary, otherwise they could also participate in these processes, by the way, factories are being built here, and thank God. And as for the cities, cities here are certainly not built, but still it’s easier to preserve the beauty of nature here therefore build mosques, temples, parks, apartments and shopping centers.