Special Forces will receive the first batch of "Tigers" this year

Russian Defense Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu visited Arzamas Machine-Building Plant (a management company - Military Industrial Company (MIC)) on a working trip.

According to the press service of the military industrial complex, during the working visit, the head of the military department looked at the production shops of the machine factory where armored personnel carriers and Tiger special vehicles are assembled, as well as the site of the enterprise, where he familiarized himself with mass-produced models of armored vehicles, and industrial company.

The Russian Defense Minister was accompanied by the leaders of the military department: First Deputy Minister of Defense, Army General Arkady Bakhin, Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Yury Borisov, Deputy Minister of Defense Colonel General Oleg Ostapenko, Commander-in-Chief of the Land Forces Colonel General Vladimir Chirkin, Head of the Main Operational Directorate - Deputy Head of the General Colonel General Vladimir Zarudnitsky, Commander of the Western Military District Colonel General Anatoly Sidoro . They arrived at the company two hours earlier. At the factory site, they personally tested the armored vehicles produced, and then gave a positive assessment of the tactical and technical characteristics of both the BTR-82A and the special vehicle "Tiger", as well as the new military-industrial complex - the highly mobile multi-purpose vehicle "Wolf".

The head of the military department, S. Shoigu, in addition to the above-mentioned samples of military equipment, presented promising designs of the company. Inspection of the line of manufactured products took place on the production site of the enterprise - in the body assembly of production cars. The starting point of the exhibition was the special purpose vehicle 233115 "Tiger-M SpN". It was developed by order of the Ministry of Defense for the special forces units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. And already this year the first batch of such armored vehicles will go to the troops. The defense minister was also presented an armored vehicle with enhanced mine protection MIC-3924 "Bear" and a prototype model of an armored wheeled vehicle with a hybrid power plant and electric transmission, created as part of the research project "Krymsk".

Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu stressed that the “Wolf” armored car should complete state tests by the end of 2014, after which it would be decided to adopt it and purchase it for the Russian Armed Forces.

According to the company's specialists, the technical characteristics of the Krymsk armored vehicle were fundamentally improved:

increased resource 2-3 times, useful volume of 20-30%;

increased degree of automation and power of the machine.

In the dynamics of "Krymsk" the Minister of Defense was introduced during the screening at the factory site.

The heads of the military department also identified areas for further improvement of the BTR-80 and BTR-82А armored personnel carriers and the Tigr-M armored car, such as:

improvement of the dynamic characteristics and ergonomics of crew and landing positions;

security improvement;

installation of remotely controlled combat modules.

Presented to the Minister of Defense was the workplace of the field service brigade for repairs in the field. S. Shoigu once again stated that in the near future, all manufacturers need to move to the maintenance of technology throughout the life cycle.

In addition, an exhibition of products of the GAZ Group, the Zavolzhsky Tracked Tractor Plant and the Ural Automobile Plant was launched to guide the Ministry of Defense on the territory of the enterprise.

Upon completion of his acquaintance with the company's products, Sergei Shoigu held a meeting on the production and supply of advanced military equipment to the Russian army.

Comments

[Jacob31]

Yes, the machine, by the way, it’s high time for the special forces to have a well-armored workhorse. To maintain a high level of our armed forces))))

[Manager]

Quote: Jacob31

, It’s high time for the special forces to have a well-armored workhorse.

And not just special forces. Simplified versions of the army oh as needed.

[eplewke]

Expensive tigers will not completely replace workhorses - UAZ vehicles. Inappropriate military formations, with the exception of chiefs of staff or division. mouth.! But the special forces need such cars and how much, plus with a combat module on top! Article plus!

[Manager]

Quote: eplewke

Expensive tigers will not completely replace workhorses - UAZ vehicles.

Have yusovskie hamers with a gun on the roof worked poorly? I think that they are still needed. Given the fighting in the city to support offensives and retreats, the removal of the wounded, etc., a very boring technique. High-speed, maneuverable, protection from machine guns and machine guns.

[LaGlobal]

Quote: Jacob31

To maintain a high level of our armed forces

- he is already tall, even more than! And now it’ll get even better!

[Pimply]

That's just mine protection from them - no.

[31231]

Dear, I have two friends who hit the landmines in Chechnya. Both are alive. One drove was on the BTR-70, drove a wheel on its side, the second hit the MT-LB under the side. Three fighters on the armor of the 200s, he saw the candy and managed to pull his head. It seems to me that there is no place for advertising the Akhzaritov and Mrapov ?! I, as an industrial one, will open any of your armor and I will not need hundreds of kg of explosives.

[erased]

The fact that there are many cars is good. But if the army accepts several types, it’s bad. Unification, whatever one may do, plays a big role, but here it will not smell.

[Jacob31]

What is unification for? This is not an automatic machine to unify under a single cartridge!

[erased]

Unification allows you to save significant funds on spare parts, components, repair base, equipment. It’s easier for technicians and drivers to understand cars. Always and everywhere in all countries of the world sought to unify technology in order to save money. Here is the purpose of this topic.

[Jacob31]

Tiger, Wolf, Bear are going to the same factory. And the unification of spare parts is 50 percent, if not 70. And you don’t need to mow down to the west, you also don’t need to unify everything under one comb, each type of weapon has its own purpose and characteristics.

[erased]

Type of weapons has nothing to do with it. During the Second World War, our Germans and Americans also tried to unify technology.

[Andrew]

Especially the Germans. Fighting on equipment and weapons from all over Europe. and the USSR receiving, in addition to their tanks, British and American vehicles.

[Corsair]

Quote: erased

Unification allows you to save significant funds on spare parts, components, repair base, equipment.

On one of the "branches" of the VO, the article was "analyzed", one of the theses of which was precisely the lack of unification of the vehicles of Nazi Germany. The variegated fleet of vehicles recruited from a large number of models of both German and automakers of the occupied countries made it difficult to repair and operate ...

[SPLV]

The US Armed Forces at one time saved billions on the unification of Spruance-type EMs with Ticonderoga-class cruisers. According to various sources, the degree of unification of buildings, equipment, power plants, ranged from 60 to 70%. This is not counting weapons. As a result, they arrived at one universal project - Orly Burke. And Hammer replaced a huge number of different types of cars, representing not one car, but in fact - a platform for creating a variety of equipment - several dozen modifications, from passenger and cargo to weapons and equipment carriers. Our ranks, perhaps, should ponder.
After all, tax money was no longer enough if they switched to requisitions from gas, water and electricity from the population. A few more new types of equipment will appear, and soon the tax on windows, air and hair on the head will be taken. I’m not afraid of the latter, since I don’t have it.

[Asgard]

As a man who has given years of service to special forces, I can say that special forces do not need such a car.
He is needed for patrolling the captured territories. Streets of cities, fast delivery of "generals" from the front line to the rear))) ... I assure you, this is how it will be used)))

At least, those tasks that put me in the CA on such a car cannot be fulfilled ...
В Yugoslavia used BTR, this is a complete "unit" and fast delivery of ALL the unit with the necessary "tools" and cover with armor and fire, trouble-free evacuation of the wounded and the ultimate survivability of the vehicle ....
"tiger" is deprived of all this ...
This is an imitation of "hamer" for the American type of war ...
А Homeland will not defend "Tiger" .....
ALAS)))

[Jacob31]

In addition to the delivery of generals, there is also intelligence. On the armored personnel carrier, it’s certain that only people can be ridiculed for reconnaissance, but here you can find just a small roomy model with good protection and a lot of other applications.

[Asgard]

Reconnaissance in vehicles during the fighting is not carried out ....
The armored personnel carrier never made anyone laugh ... scared - YES ...
The cross-country ability and spaciousness of the "Tiger" is a big question, only a solid and preferably flat surface (asphalt))) with rolls of about 30%, such a (heavy) car will get stuck and have to be abandoned in reconnaissance)))
He is not an assistant to special forces ...

And of course you can come up with applications for him, although booking is only necessary for one)))
I already wrote about the generals))))
and they called the car wrong, a lone tiger and only cares about its own well-being ...
"Wolf" is another matter, the interests of the clan are above all, this is "special forces" in the forest, hunting in a unit with a distribution of responsibilities ...

[Jacob31]

Intelligence and what is needed to be quiet and inconspicuous, and not to crucify on an armored personnel carrier and scare dumbfounded people)))

[max702]

By the way, as the current on the BRDM replaced the native engine with diesel, the special forces and intelligence machine really liked it ... and the armor and weapons ..

[bask]

Quote: max702

BRDM replaced the native engine with diesel, then the special forces and intelligence machine really liked

And Yankeroam in Iraq liked BRDM 2, more than Hammer.

[Mairos]

Uff .. You tell this to specialists)) And then they, stupid ones, sincerely rejoice when they are thrown to the point on turntables .. and the turntable picks up, if possible.
Went in the mountains? At least with a tourist backpack and in complete safety?

[bask]

Quote: Asgard

He is not an assistant to special forces ...

SMP-2,, Tiger M ,, is an armored car for the MVD.
For the army, an army version was created ,, Tiger 6A ,,. (Not a conveyor belt).
For reconnaissance and special forces, an armored car with a hybrid power plant and lithium batteries is needed. The mass is no more than 2.5 tons.
1 It is necessary to modernize the BRDM 2, with the replacement of the engine, the installation of mine protection.
2. create a special armored car for reconnaissance and special forces, an analogue of the western JLTV, lightly armored with mine protection.
As created for the Airborne Forces on units ,, Niva ,,, - Anatoly Vyacheslavovich Lebed, Hero of the Russian Federation, Special Forces Lieutenant Colonel.
He knew what special forces needed.
That would add, It is a roof and doors. Buggy all the same for countries with a hot climate.

[shpuntik]

bask (4) Today, 12:02 ↑
Quote: Asgard
He is not an assistant to special forces ...
SMP-2,, Tiger M ,, is an armored car for the MVD.

From the Apollo video, below, a screenshot. Here's the confirmation: filters for contaminated air. From tear gas all over. There were none before.

[faint27]

this is called the FVU (filter-ventilation device or installation) was placed on all Soviet equipment to protect against weapons of mass destruction.

[shpuntik]

sven27 SU Today, 17:44 ↑ New
this is called the FVU (filter-ventilation device or installation) was placed on all Soviet equipment to protect against weapons of mass destruction.

I know, I studied these at the school, even on civilian ships it was installed, combined with air conditioning. But from the outside there was something I them on tanks, armored personnel carriers did not see. They are most likely inside the enclosure and are designed for a single application - to complete the task, to leave the WMD zone. Here the filters are outside, for quick replacement, it is obvious that in street fighting conditions it is necessary. For an intelligence vehicle, this element is not paramount. Of course, I’m not a commando and intelligence officer, this is in my opinion.

[Russ69]

Quote: bask

2. create a special armored car for reconnaissance and special forces, an analogue of the western JLTV, lightly armored with mine protection. As created for the Airborne Forces on units ,, Niva ,,, - Anatoly Vyacheslavovich Lebed, Hero of the Russian Federation, Special Forces Lieutenant Colonel.

The other day at the MO exhibition, it was something similar.

[Slavs69]

bask, Asgard - I agree. "Tiger" vehicle for the explosives and special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. In the Ministry of Defense it can be used as a front-line transporter, but not for special forces.

[Massik]

That’s why the city is to be fenced, BRDM 2 has been invented for a long time - this is the only car that with such fuel consumption can go directly through the forest, regardless of ravines, rivers, etc. For everything else, at least directions are needed ....

[roial]

You need to explore on foot, sometimes on the belly quietly and inconspicuously.

[svp67]

Quote: roial

You need to explore on foot, sometimes on the belly quietly and inconspicuously.

Less films need to be watched, and if you are interested in a military topic, then at least read the Combat Regulations of the Ground Forces ...

[Apollo]

topic video

[Dart weyder]

Hummer H2, and H1 with the Tiger to compare incorrectly - a different class of machine, and by weight including .....

[bask]

Quote: Dart Weyder

it is not correct to compare the thunder - of a different class of machine, and by weight including ..

I agree . Hammer Army Limo.

[bask]

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[ElektriK123]

But Shoigu said that with the necessary equipment he would smash a regiment of tanks (well, or whatever, I think the regiment).

[bask]

Quote: ElektriK123

But Shoigu said that with the necessary equipment he would smash a regiment of tanks (well, or whatever, I think the regiment).

Such tanks, just blow. Or it seems to me

[shpuntik]

Asgard (1) SU Today, 11:21 AM
As a man who has given years of service to special forces, I can say that special forces do not need such a car.
And "Tiger" will not defend the Motherland .....

I agree, the same thing seemed strange to me, these prefixes "special", perhaps for the internal troops, especially since there is equipment now to disperse demonstrations, by the example of Tbilisi, there were American emitters, that's a fact.
Here is an interesting interview:
http://baikal24.ru/page.php?action=showItem&type=hot&id=115

Corr. - What samples? The first time I've heard.

ON THE. - For example, the Tiger car, it is specially designed for street battles with demonstrators. In Irkutsk, when there, environmentalists allegedly muddied for the cleanliness of Lake Baikal, it was worth leaving these cars — all slowly dispersed. It turned out that the instigators of the demonstration were criminal circles: they used programs from Microsoft illegally and violated the Russian Criminal Code. Riot police quickly neutralized these villains.

Corr. - They said that the Tiger is an analogue of the Hammer for military needs. Why did the Ministry of Defense refuse to acquire them, and switched to Spanish cars?

ON THE. - It does not provide for the required firepower and armor protection. But it is resistant to turning over by hand, has a system for extinguishing the Molotov cocktail, is easily equipped with machine guns, gas grenades, water cannons and other special equipment. Psychologists carefully selected the name of the car, as in the case with the form of the Ministry of Emergencies. The name of the German tanks won. The plebs must have a historical memory; they will be draped from the Tigers only this way, and they will throw Kasparov and Limonov.

[ivshubarin]

That's how much application

[roial]

Was it developed by military technical specifications ?? or again, the local kulibins are trying to impart their stuff to the military ??

[bask]

Quote: ivshubarin

That's how much use

What type of German armored car is Gefas.
Designed to protect the convoy, patrolling. Holds a crew of four. It is armed with a remotely controlled combat module. It has a high level of protection STANAG 4B, protection against small arms, fragments, IEDs.
It has a modular design.

[Sergey Medvedev]

Quote: Asgard

And the "Tiger" will not defend the Motherland ..... Alas)))

Put a plus. I agree. Homeland is protected by people, not cars. And what kind of glands we have will be unknown. With a big war, the hunt for serious armored vehicles will begin. And then I recall the experience of the Second World War. The most massive machine in the Red Army was the GAZ-AA lorry. The grandmother of today's Gazelle. So the Tiger will come down too.

[Jacob31]

As the saying goes, there would be a machine, but Shoigu will always find where to use it))))

[Alexey M]

It’s time to replace the UAZ. Yes, and I’m tired of talking now and then a tiger or a scorpion. When will the news finally be like 100 cars passed into wax today?

[6 sunrise 9]

Will you joke? There are already more than 500 of them in the troops.

[Uhe]

Some were also fond of cat names. What they ended up with, we all know very well. We have our own customs for the name of such equipment - since the days of the Soviet Union.

[Klibanophoros]

In honor of flowers? "Hyacinth", "Peony", "Tulip", "Carnation", "Acacia", "Peony", "Cornflower"?
And how can you not remember "Buratino"?

[soldier's grandson]

I suggest the name "Kashchei" I'm talking about the fact that the immortal

[Marconi41]

Well, Pinocchio is also made of a plant! ...

[Massik]

Ohoh, as one colonel said in 2012, they should have given us AK 12 at the beginning of 2013, they won’t see everything ...

[yan]

It's nice to read the news, at least some movement has begun

[6 sunrise 9]

here on the site and really everything is not far? What movement ??? Deliveries began back in 2005. there are more than 500 of them now! Hare to carry nonsense, as if only now they began to deliver.

[6 sunrise 9]

Justify the minus, or are you from. disagree with the data?

[Vilor]

Personally, I have some kind of ambivalent attitude towards the tiger. We have several in the brigade, and then in the special weapons company. Here you need to understand their method of application, but few people here understand how to use them. To deliver-pick up at least one group you need three tigers. It doesn't matter how many seats are written on the documents, but in addition to scouts, do not forget about backpacks, which are large enough (who knows the attack-2,3). Back in 2009 we were given 'Hussars', the use of which no one could understand. Tigers are of course good, but we still want to see armored vehicles. Well, I would like to try the new Typhoons, and tigers, they seem to be good, but no one knows how to use them (in the special forces brigades). True, I think they are very suitable for the internal troops.

[Vtel]

And here is our Volchara, do not come bite me.

TTH:
Gross weight 7500-11500 kg
4 × 4 or 6 × 6 drive
Ground clearance adjustable from 250 to 550 mm
6 ballistic protection
Mine protection class 2 protection according to STANAG 4569 (6 kg of explosives)
Engine YaMZ-5347-20 4,4 l
power 190, 240 hp
Load capacity 1,5-4,5 t
Landing 8-18 people
Top speed 120 km / h
Power reserve 1000 km
Depth of ford 1,5 m

[Apollo]

Quote: Vtel

And here is our Volchara, do not come bite me.

[Siberian]

Quote: eplewke

Expensive tigers will not completely replace workhorses - UAZ. Inappropriate military formations, with the exception of chiefs of staff or division. mouth.! But the special forces need such cars and how much, plus with a combat module on top! Article plus!

I agree with you, in some quantity they are needed, even necessary for certain troops and tasks.

[roial]

Quote: Siberian

for certain troops and tasks.

What troops and what tasks ???
Is this defined in any documents ???

[Artillerist]

Tigers on a mass scale are not needed in the regular troops. I consider it expedient to supply "point" supplies for
- internal troops (police operations);
- for reconnaissance units using UAVs (as the base of an UAV operator);
- for Russian contingents for UN peacekeeping missions (transport of observers;
- Well, and for the transportation of valuable asses of our generals in the field (they should not be dissected on Bobiks).

[sergey158-29]

Even if as a new UAZ for the GENERALS, it’s still better ...

As for me, I need to work out combat modules or systems:
- anti-tank / anti-air
- transportation, launch and management of UAVs
- EW / communication systems ...

[holding]

The article is called incorrectly, not "Spetsnaz will receive the first batch of Tigers," but "Spetsnaz will receive a new batch of Tigers."
Because the Tigers have been running in SEE for the third year already.