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They burned the "Royal Tigers"

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They burned the "Royal Tigers"

That battle broke out near the village of Zanka, Zhytomyr Region, on December 7, 1943. At dawn, the Germans attacked their strongest Tanks Pz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H Tiger. Three combat vehicles were in the observation sector of the crew of the second lieutenant Vasily Ermolaev. Vasily Ermolaev didn’t beat them in the forehead, he let him in at close range, waited for one of the Tigers to set up the side, and opened fire. A few shots and he caught fire. Then another one broke out. There was nothing to fire at the third - the sub-caliber shells ended. Only they could break through the thick armor of the Tiger. Now Pz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H could deal with the T-34 without difficulty. A shot rumbled, and the flame swept Ermolaev’s “thirty-four”. But the crew continued to fight, the T-34 rushed at full speed towards the Tiger and crashed into it. Both cars exploded. Guard tank commander Junior Lieutenant Vasily Ermolaev and guard mechanic sergeant Andrei Timofeev was posthumously awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union. Of the 6 tanks destroyed by the crew in that battle, 4 were the strongest tanks of Nazi Germany — the Pz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H Tiger.


During the fierce battles of the Great Patriotic War, it was not up to consider which of our tankmen destroyed the newest heavy German tanks Рz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H "Tiger", Рz.Kpfw VI Ausf.В "The Royal Tiger", Рz.Kpfw V Ausf.G "Panther" (in the Wehrmacht was considered an average tank, weight - 45 tons). And to burn such cars was far from easy.

Let's compare the tactical and technical characteristics of Pz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H and T-34. The thirty-four weighs 28,5 tons, and the Tiger weighs more than 55 tons, the armor of the Soviet tank 52-45 is mm, and the Tiger is 102-82 mm. In service with the T-34 of the first editions was the 76,2-mm gun, while the Hitler machine had an 88-mm long-barreled gun. "Thirty" could hit "Tiger" only in the board with a distance from 300 to 500 meters, and then only with a sabot projectile. And the T-34 Tiger is from the 1,5-2 km distance, being out of range of the thirty-fours guns. In short, the tanks Pz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H were a very formidable opponent. In the Soviet press of the war years, they wrote that the "Tigers" were burning in battle, like matches. This is certainly not the case. And then, heavy German tanks were often confused with medium-sized Pz.Kpfw IV tanks that had been modernized to madness, in which, starting with 1942, they pulled out the barrel of the gun, strengthened the armor to at least equalize it with the T-34.

The Pz.Kpfw V Ausf.G "Panther" characteristics were inferior to the Pz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H "Tiger", this tank was produced as an alternative to the T-34. However, it almost turned out to be a heavy tank, at the same time - the best tank of Hitler’s “Panzervaffe”, one of the strongest tanks of the Second World War, and posed a great threat to Soviet combat vehicles. The main tactical and technical characteristics of the "Panther" are as follows. Combat weight - 44,8 T. Crew - 5 man. Armament: one 75-mm cannon, two machine guns. Ammunition - 79 shells, 4200 cartridges. Armor: the front of the hull is 80 mm, the side is 50-mm, the tower is 110 mm. The maximum speed is 50 km / h, the range on the highway is 200 km. The fascist leadership planned to produce up to 600 machines per month, but the plans were unrealized. The record release - 400 pieces - came out only in the summer of 1944.


The commander of the Central Front, Army General K.K. Rokossovsky examines the captured German self-propelled gun "Elephant". On the armor are well visible dents from shells


The German self-propelled guns proved to be a dangerous opponent - tank destroyers "Elephant" ("Elephant", originally called "Ferdinand" in honor of designer Ferdinand Porsche). Armed with 88-mm cannon, they pierced 180-mm and 200-mm armor from 1000 meters with armor-piercing and sub-caliber shells, respectively. "Elephanta" participated in the battles on the northern face of the Kursk salient and in the autumn battles of 1943 on the right-bank Ukraine - near Nikopol and in the Zhytomyr region and proved to be a dangerous opponent of tanks. The Elephant self-propelled gun was released a little - 90 units, and of course they could not strongly influence the course of military operations.

German tanks Рz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H "Tiger", Рz.Kpfw V Ausf.G "Panther", as well as tank destroyers "Elephant" on the Soviet-German front were massively used in July of the 1943 in the Battle of the Kursk Bulge. For half a year they were confronted by a heavy KV-1 tank (KV-1С) with a 76,2-mm cannon (barrel length 41,5 klb), with armor parts of the hull increased to 105 mm, medium T-34 / 76 tanks and even T-28, entered service in 1933 year. The crews of the Soviet machines had to show the highest skill in order to win the duel against the "Tiger". Our tankers from ambushes acted professionally. He was also rescued by the fact that, for example, the Thirty-Four was a very manoeuvrable machine. Yielding to the "Tigers" in the power of fire, she, in capable hands, often effectively opposed them.

In the winter of 1944, more powerful T-34 / 85 tanks began to be delivered to the Guards tank units (the T-85 long-barreled 34-mm cannon was installed in the T-quad with an increased thickness of armor). In parallel with the T-85 / 2, the heavy tank EC-122, later recognized as the strongest tank of the Second World War, was also sent to the troops. The 1943-mm semi-automatic tank gun of the 1,5 model of the year installed on it had muzzle energy 88 times as large as that of the 500-mm Pz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H gun. At a distance of 25 meters, a projectile weighing 790 kg and an initial speed of 140 m / s punched armor with a thickness of up to 2 mm. IS-120 itself had a booking 90-1944 mm. The baptism of "Joseph Stalin" received a baptism of battle near Korsun-Shevchenkovsky in February of XNUMX, where they showed their unrivaled fighting qualities. The command of the Wehrmacht forbade its tankmen to enter into open fights with them ... But in practice, the most massive Soviet combat vehicles - “thirty-fours” - often entered the duel with the strongest German tanks.


Kursk Bulge


The crews of the Thirty-Fours of General Mikhail Katukov’s 1 Tank Army gained fame as real hunters on the Tigers in the Battle of Kursk, that is, when the Wehrmacht for the first time massively used their newest heavy tanks.

7 July 1943, the Oboyan highway near the small village of Yakovlev was defended by a company of guard Lieutenant Vladimir Bochkovsky from the 1 Guards Tank Brigade. At dawn, the Tigers 7 and two infantry regiments appeared on the highway. A little later, at about four o'clock in the morning, in the light of the rising sun, three more tank columns with “Tigers” appeared. Immediately I heard the roar of the bombers. Around 60, enemy aircraft came from different sides and began to hit the entire area in front of the tanks, "spreading" the "carpet" in front of their vehicles. This did not bother the Soviet tankers. All day eight “thirty-fours” fought off attacks.

Because of the shelters, they hit the enemy's cars neatly, not allowing themselves to be discovered. The determination of the Nazis diminished in the first minutes of the battle, which soon became chaotic. It was then that the crew of Lieutenant Georgy Bessarabov’s guard opened his account of the destroyed heavy fascist tanks. Pz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H became the third tank, which he burned by noon. Bessarabov destroyed him from ambush, when he set up the board. And then the crew won the duel with the crews of the two "Tigers".

“By evening, the fascists apparently guessed that only a handful of tankers were acting against them, and resumed attacks against the Bochkovsky company with tripled energy,” General Mikhail Katukov later told the commander. - “Messers” hung over the village. One of the bombs exploded next to the machine guard Lieutenant Sokolov. Tank, tilted, moved into a deep funnel. Lieutenant Bochkovsky took the padded “thirty-four” in tow, but the car did not yield. A German tanks very close. All this time, Georgy Bessarabov covered his comrades with armor of his car and fought back against the attacking "Tigers". Despite the dramatic situation, Bochkovsky handed the second tug to Sokolov. The rescue was already near, but one German shell landed in the car - the gun barrel flew away from it, the flame shot up above the engine. Guard lieutenant Sokolov was killed. Under a hail of shells, the caterpillar was torn off from Lieutenant Bochkovsky's tank. The company ordered his crew to pull the caterpillar, but another explosion — the languages ​​of fire ran down the Bochkovsky car. Crews of wrecked tanks and four motorized infantry, to the last to defend their line, climbed onto the armor of the Bessar-Bova machine, and maneuvering among the gaps, she went to the villages.

In the morning, a company of five vehicles again stood in the way of the German offensive. In just two days of fighting, the tank crews of the company destroyed the enemy's 23 tank, including several Pz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H "Tiger". 3 "Tigra" burned the crew of the guard Lieutenant George Bessarabov.


Heavy heavy tank Pz.Kpfw. VI Ausf. H "Tiger" on the road near Kiev


The brave officer will increase his account of the destroyed Hitler tanks in battles for the liberation of Ukraine. He will burn 12 enemy tanks, of which 4 "Tiger".

29 December 1943-th in the battles for the city Kazatin George Bessarabov was killed.

7 The Tigers destroyed the tank crew of the 1 Tank Army (200 Tank Brigade) Lieutenant Mikhail Zamula.

8 July 1943, his company held a defense near the village of Verkhopenie. When Zamula saw that two groups of enemy tanks bypassed the village, and the third was moving straight along the hollow to the position of the company, I realized that they wanted to take him into ticks. He sent one platoon to meet the enemy who was trying to bypass the company, and the other - hid in a hollow, his car - behind the smoky nearby "Tiger". Zamula saw the enemy well, remaining unnoticed by him. In vain the enemy tried to break through the village and its environs. The Thirty-Fours jumped out of their shelters and hit the Tigers' sides. Despite their superiority in strength, the Nazis never managed to bring down our tank barrier. Having left about two dozen cars on the battlefield, they were forced to retreat. 9 tanks (including the Tigger 4) and 3 self-propelled guns destroyed the crew of Lieutenant Zamuly.

In total for 8 and 9 in July 1943, he burned 17 enemy tanks (of which 7 Рz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H "Tiger"), 5 self-propelled guns and 1 BTR. It was in those days that the radio communication of the German air reconnaissance aircraft was intercepted. Its text read: “Russians are not retreating. They stand at the same turn. Our tanks stopped. They are burning.

The tank assists also include the commander of the T-34 tank of the 1 tank army, Lieutenant Grigory Brazhnikov, and the commander of the EC-2 tank from the 2 shock army (30-I separate heavy tank brigade), Lieutenant Ivan Hitsenko.

Gregory Brazhnikov distinguished himself in battles at Kursk. Initially, his crew destroyed one medium tank Рz.Kpfw III and one Рz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H "Tiger". But then, in one of the fights, Brazhnikov managed to shoot 350 “Tigger” with 400-4 meters from a distance, spending 8 shells on them. True, the lieutenant got carried away and, in the heat of battle, did not notice the fifth man, who managed to deliver a fatal blow to his Thirty-Four. Fortunately, the crew remained intact.


Padded German tank "Tiger II" with the Soviet trophy number 300


Lieutenant Khitsenko participated in the breakthrough of enemy defenses near the city of Ruzan (Poland). 15 January 1945-th crew of his tank entered into an unequal battle with the enemy's 10 heavy tanks and 5 of them hit. In the same battle, the brave tanker was killed.

The ace for the destruction of heavy fascist tanks can be considered the tank commander of the 13-th Guards Tank Brigade (4-th Guards Tank, Corps, 60-I Army) Guards Junior Lieutenant Ivan Golub. In December, he destroyed 1943 tank Рz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H "Tiger" and 3 tank Рz.Kpfw V Ausf.G "Panther" in battles near Zhytomyr in December.

On the 1-th Ukrainian front, Ivan Golub arrived on December 6 on the 1943-th after the end of the Orlovka armored school and soon distinguished himself in the battles near Zhytomyr. On one of the days of the “thirty-four” offensive, Ivan Golub rushed in with the other tanks into the village of Genovychi, destroying several guns and vehicles in ten minutes. However, the Nazis launched a counterattack. Ivan Golub was able to deftly put a tank into cover and disguise it well. When the two "Tigers" approached the village, the crew shot down the first tank from the first shot. Another tried to hide in a dell. Golub went around to the left high-rise and met him on a vantage point. This car also flashed.

24 December forty-third began Zhytomyr-Berdichev operation. Six days later, in the evening of 31, the “thirty-four” of Ivan Golub was the first of the advancing Soviet tanks to be on the outskirts of the village High Furnace of the Zhytomyr region, where Hitler’s technology was grouped. Skillfully using the surprise of his appearance, the crew destroyed three “Tigers”, two “Panthers”, 5 guns and many infantrymen with accurate shots.

Thus, Junior Lieutenant Ivan Golub for the twenty December days recorded at his own expense 5 destroyed the newest machines of the enemy, becoming one of the tank fighter aces. Unfortunately, Ivan Golub could not increase it. 5 January 1944 of the year in a battle near the village of Gordievka, Zhytomyr region, where his crew disabled several guns of an enemy battery, a young officer was killed. In his last attack, having spent the ammunition, he sent the tank to the enemy firing positions.

Hero of the Soviet Union Guards Junior Lieutenant V.Ermolaev

The 4 of the Pz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H tank was destroyed by the tank commander of the 12 Guards Tank Brigade (1 of the Ukrainian Front) junior lieutenant Vasily Yermolaev. 3 "Tigra" on the account of the commander of the T-34 tank, Lieutenant Grigory Chesak from the 10 Guards Urals Volunteer Tank Corps, distinguished himself in battles in Ukraine, outside the city of Fridrihivka (now Volochinsk) in March 1944. The same number of menacing machines on the account of the platoon commander of the 14-th tank regiment (1-I tank army), Lieutenant N. Laiseikin. Of the nine tanks destroyed by him in one of the battles on the Kursk Bulge, three were Pz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H. Three “Tigers” and two medium tanks Рz.Kpfw III in the 3-s hour battle at Kursk destroyed the crew of tank Lieutenant M. Frolov from the 178-th tank brigade (10-th tank Dneprovsky Corps of Suvorov). 3 "Tiger" was struck during the fighting on the Kursk Bulge crew tank of the same brigade of guards foreman Alexander Milyukov. 3 "Tigra" from 18 destroyed on the account of the platoon commander and crew of the T-34 tank 45-th Guards Tank Brigade (1-I tank army) Guards Lieutenant Vladimir Maksakov.

Hero of the Soviet Union guard sergeant A.Timofeev

In August, the 1944 of the year on the Sandomierz bridgehead, the German command sought to defeat the formation of Soviet troops entrenched on the west bank of the Vistula. A German 501 heavy tank battalion with super heavy tanks Рz.Kpfw VI Ausf.In the Royal Tiger arrived in the frontline strip, near the Polish village of Ogljanów, which was pre-cordoned off by the SS, ... The Royal Tiger ...

In the tank crew "thirty" (T-34 / 85) there were five of them. The commander is junior lieutenant Alexander Oskin, mechanic-driver senior sergeant Alexander Stetsenko, gun commander sergeant Abubakir Merkhaidarov, gunner-radio operator Alexander Grudinin and charging junior sergeant Alexey Khalychev. One evening, the order was received by the commander of the 53 Guards Tank Brigade (she was part of the 6 Q. Tank Corps, 3 of the Guards Tank Army, 1 of the Ukrainian Front) to go to the Polish settlement Oglendov and conduct reconnaissance. Oskin gave the command, and the thirty-three went to the west. On the armor of the car settled down. It was not possible to enter Oglenduv. On the outskirts the crew noticed German tanks, there were more than a dozen of them, there was no point in engaging in combat. After driving a safe distance, Oskin contacted the brigade headquarters, from where he received an order - to take a comfortable position, continue observation, act according to the situation.

"Thirty-four" froze on a sloping field in front of the village. He was separated by a deep ravine, followed by the road to the east of Oglendów, so that control could be maintained. The crew immediately began to mask the car sheaves. For credibility, they laid down the same large stacks in other places in the field. The night passed quietly. At dawn, Oskin noticed how a column of heavy, clumsy cars appeared from the Oglenduva side. They looked unusual and formidable.


Soviet officers inspect the destroyed heavy tank "Royal Tiger". Balasnodi Road - Armat, Hungary


“They look like Tigers,” Merhaidarov said. - But not they. Maybe the Panthers?

The commander of the crew understood: you will not take new cars in the forehead. It is better to hit the sides. Such an opportunity presents itself, heavy tanks will go on the road. And he was not mistaken. Soon the column stretched out along the ravine, moreover, it somehow stopped. Immediately fourteen cars framed the side under the 85-mm gun "thirty-four." Oskin decided to hit the lead tank. Shot rang out. Hits - right under the tower.

The second shell hit the side. Having destroyed armor, he set fire to the fuel tanks. The flame danced over the broken machine. It mercilessly devoured the new brainchild of the Henschel company. Another torch flared on the opposite side of the ravine.

The Nazis swept panic. Their tanks began to depart in Ogleduv. And only the third giant, who stood directly against the Thirty-Four, got ready for battle, sending a cannon to the Soviet machine. Now everything was decided by seconds.

- I do not see the goal! - excitedly reported Merhaidarov.

Camouflage sheaf closed the lens sight. Oskin leaned to the waist from the tower, the sheaf flew off to the side. A shot rang out, and the third “Royal” broke out in the predawn gloom.

By that time, reinforcements arrived. Soviet tankers went on the offensive. "Thirty-Four" Oskina on the shoulders of the retreating Hitler unit broke into Oglenduv. The royal tiger 3 stood in a village without movement. Crews, apparently, were preparing for an offensive, but they expected that they would be brought into battle secondarily, and therefore tankers were not there. The SS, guarding the tanks, did not provide significant resistance. The enemy's 3 tank was captured. Already later, the crew of Alexander Oskin found out that they had shot down and captured the newest Hitler machine Pz.Kpfw VI Ausf.X in the “Royal Tiger” 6.


Trophy German technology in CPKIO them. Gorky in Moscow in the autumn of 1945 year


“Royal tigers” were shown to the commander of the 3 tank army Pavel Rybalko. He was amazed at their size and extremely surprised that the Thirty-Four managed to deal with these menacing tanks. Soon one of the giants was exhibited in the Moscow Gorky Park of Culture and Recreation - for public viewing. (According to other data, the crew of Oskin in that battle destroyed the tanks Pz.Kpfw IV)

Unfortunately, this is still the only known result of the fights of the Soviet tankers with the strongest enemy tanks. True, the memoirs literature describes an episode when our tankers captured the 13 serviceable "Royal Tigers".

During the fighting on the same Sandomir bridgehead, the tank battalion of Major Vladimir Zhukov (1-I Guards Tank Army) during a night attack in one of the settlements came across 16 unknown German tanks. The crews were not there - they slept in village houses. The attack was so sudden that only three crews managed to jump into the hatches of their tanks and carry away what is called legs.

Note: in his article, the author used the simplified notation of German tanks, used previously in the domestic literature - T-VIH, T-VIB, T-VG. In the text, they are replaced by Рz.Kpfw VI Ausf.H, Рz.Kpfw VI Ausf.В and Рz.Kpfw V Ausf.G respectively.
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  1. Luger
    Luger 22 August 2013 07: 51 New
    16
    Well done, our ancestors were real soldiers and people, if we happened to be able to do this?
    1. AK-74-1
      AK-74-1 22 August 2013 08: 20 New
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      Yes, not Swamp (in the literal and figurative sense of the word). This is not with cops in masks to fight and shy away from clubs.
      Eternal memory and low bow!
      1. xan
        xan 22 August 2013 14: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: AK-74-1
        Yes, not Swamp (in the literal and figurative sense of the word). This is not with cops in masks to fight and shy away from clubs.
        Eternal memory and low bow!

        yes FIG knows him.
        on the internet I came across photographs of lieutenants and staff captains from the White Guard color divisions. These are those who did not take prisoner and did not surrender themselves, in the order of things, one against three, and did not lose combat capability with terrifying losses. boys, boys, funny open faces, sometimes with an admixture of arrogance and arrogance, they can change their outfits and you can easily in nightclubs.
        apparently there is something in the genes from the victories of the ancestors. there, foreigners write that the Russians are arrogant, especially the Poles, and the Germans too, recently read in foreign media, and who is stronger than us, maybe the Americans or who else? Are there any examples?
        1. Denga
          Denga 22 August 2013 20: 58 New
          +1
          It seems that you are confusing military officers and majors. Of all my friends who have passed the hot spots, no one has either arrogance or arrogance, since in combat conditions this all quickly flies away.
    2. KEKS44
      KEKS44 22 August 2013 15: 04 New
      +2
      We can! Although, God forbid.
    3. Sanny
      Sanny 27 May 2017 16: 30 New
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      While we sit like a mouse under a broom! About August 1991, in general, remember shame!
  2. Snoop
    Snoop 22 August 2013 08: 11 New
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    They look more formidable, so yes. But the quality of the armor of the Tigers II was much worse than that of ordinary mortal Tigers :) If the Germans had no problems with the armor, then they cannot be pierced, the armor is even thicker. True, Oskin hit the universal weak points of any tank - "Hit - right under the very tower." The crew had to have strong nerves. A competent crew is a competent crew, and those. new items won't help.
  3. Alexey M
    Alexey M 22 August 2013 09: 12 New
    +7
    Quote: Luger
    Well done, our ancestors were real soldiers and people, if we happened to be able to do this?

    We can! By the fact that we are Russian! Not immediately, of course, we’ll learn a little, get angry and be able to.
    1. berimor
      berimor 22 August 2013 17: 12 New
      +4
      And in modern warfare (God forbid!) There will be no time to get angry and learn something, remember, guys !!!
  4. govoruha-otrok
    govoruha-otrok 22 August 2013 09: 29 New
    +4
    good article! pride!
  5. Stiletto
    Stiletto 22 August 2013 09: 30 New
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    Technology is fighting, people are winning. And, which is especially nice - our people. Low bow and eternal memory. The country really lacks those who died then. The best of the best.
  6. Nikolski1973
    Nikolski1973 22 August 2013 09: 44 New
    +5
    Honor and Glory to the war-winner !!!!!!!!!!!!
  7. Kars
    Kars 22 August 2013 09: 59 New
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    Good article, only in the photo all the same Ferdinand, not Elephant.


    A good tiger is a dead tiger.
    1. Iraclius
      Iraclius 22 August 2013 11: 25 New
      +3
      Kars, a land mine or a large-caliber bomb (the track and part of the track rollers are broken)?
      1. Kars
        Kars 22 August 2013 13: 38 New
        +3
        I don’t know. It may well be - and maybe a bulldozer.


        photo of another tiger (CT)
        1. Iraclius
          Iraclius 22 August 2013 14: 41 New
          +2
          The caterpillars of the "beasts" were always surprising - wide, with a "kaloshe-like" profile. Such, I suppose, you will get tired of pulling. Such a mass is not easy to carry, even for a caterpillar drive. Hehe. lol
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 22 August 2013 14: 50 New
            +2
            Andrei, please tell me why the Hans began to make a double row of skating rink? What do you think? What is your opinion? I will hold my opinion. This is not a trick question. Don’t be offended. QUESTION ANYTHING !!!
            1. hiocraib
              hiocraib 22 August 2013 14: 58 New
              +2
              Quote: Den 11
              Why did Hans start making a double row ice rink?

              for a smoother ride = higher firing accuracy on the move. The "track" was a team for a long time, until the very appearance of weapon stabilizers.
            2. Kars
              Kars 22 August 2013 14: 59 New
              +1
              And the generally accepted opinion does not suit you?


              http://armor.kiev.ua/Tank/design/suspension/3/
            3. Iraclius
              Iraclius 22 August 2013 15: 01 New
              +3
              I haven’t heard about the double, but I’ll say for the chess layout - the increased mass of the tank required that the track rollers withstand this mass and effectively distribute it on the surface of the track. So it goes.
              1. hiocraib
                hiocraib 22 August 2013 16: 32 New
                +3
                Quote: Iraclius
                I haven’t heard about the double, but I’ll say for the chess layout - the increased mass of the tank required that the track rollers withstand this mass and effectively distribute it on the track surface.

                Panther - 49 tons.

                KV-2 - 52 tons:

                IS-2 - 46 tons
                1. soldier's grandson
                  soldier's grandson 23 August 2013 00: 32 New
                  0
                  panthers skating rinks were a weak point, they often crumpled, so they took spare ones, this can be seen in the pictures
                2. Corsair
                  Corsair 23 August 2013 00: 43 New
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                  Quote: hiocraib
                  IS-2 - 46 tons


                  In addition, the IS-1 tank was used in battles, which was developed in 1943 and 7 on August of the same year, was adopted by the decree of the IS-1 GKO (IS-85 or 237 facility), and its serial production began at the end of October.

                  Almost simultaneously with the IS-1, the production of a more powerfully armed IS-2 model (240 facility) began.

                  The performance characteristics of the IS-1 (IS-85)
                  Combat weight, t 44
                  Crew, people. 4
                  Length, mm 8560
                  Width, mm 3070
                  Height, mm 2735
                  Clearance, mm 465
                  Armor, mm: 20-100
                  60-100 forehead
                  Board 90
                  60 feed
                  Roof 20
                  Bottom xnumx
                  100 Tower
                  Speed ​​(highway), km / h 37
                  Cruising range (on the highway), km 120-135
                  Ascent, city.36
                  Wall height, m ​​1,0
                  Ditch Width, m2,50
                  Wade depth, m 1,30

                  Engine
                  V-2IS, 12-cylinder, four-stroke, V-shaped liquid cooling, power 520 l. with. at 2000 rpm

                  Armament: Caliber, mm85 Gun type D5-T85, number 1 ammunition, shells 59
                  Machine gun DT 7,62 number of 3 ammunition. Ammunition 2520

                  Developer KB CHKZ(The Kirovsky plant evacuated from Leningrad was combined with the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant and, therefore, became known as the "Chelyabinsk Kirovsky Plant".)
                  Clickable Image:
            4. Leksander
              Leksander 23 August 2013 16: 47 New
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              Quote: Den 11
              Why did Hans start making a double row ice rink?

              Small clarification:
              the "Panther" rinks are in three rows, and the "Tiger" in four.
              Why dont know. There was such a chip.
          2. hiocraib
            hiocraib 22 August 2013 14: 56 New
            +2
            Quote: Iraclius
            caterpillars of "animals" - wide,

            Dyk 70 tons - this is not Khukhra-Mukhra;)
            even four put broadened for weak soils / snow.

            Quote: Iraclius
            with a "skid" profile.

            developed profile is only a plus. Starting with an almost flat hole, the T-34 ended the war with developed lugs (5-6 different pieces on the T-34 were mounted). Yes, and modern Gusko tanks have the appropriate.
            another aspect of just such a form of links is manufacturing technology, on the T-72 the pieces changed with the development of new materials and manufacturing methods.
          3. baltika-18
            baltika-18 22 August 2013 21: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: Iraclius
            The caterpillars of the "beasts" were always surprising - wide, with a "kaloshe-like" profile. Such, I suppose, you will get tired of pulling. Such a mass is not easy to carry, even for a caterpillar drive. Hehe

            The weight of the "Tiger" caterpillar is 3 tons. For replacement, repair, a crane was needed. In the field, they were not repaired at all. Yes, and the damaged "Tiger" had to have two "Tigers" to evacuate, one could not cope.
            1. Kars
              Kars 22 August 2013 21: 18 New
              +4
              Quote: baltika-18
              . For replacement, repair needed a crane. In the field they were not repaired at all
              1. Day 11
                Day 11 22 August 2013 22: 31 New
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                Well, you’re an ideological enemy to me! But I respect you for striking with reason! Plus you
                1. Kars
                  Kars 22 August 2013 22: 45 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Den 11
                  Well, you’re an enemy to me, ideological!

                  Cool. And if it's not a secret, what is my ideology? Even how it became curious.
                  1. Day 11
                    Day 11 22 August 2013 22: 55 New
                    0
                    Andrei! Well, I don’t like your nation. Although I know decent people. I won’t continue. Why escalate. But the fact that you deal with the issue of armored vehicles is tight --- Well done! Me, here’s the Luftwaffe theme
                    1. Kars
                      Kars 22 August 2013 23: 08 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Den 11
                      Well, I do not like your nation.

                      Well, it’s kind of like an ideology, I hoped that I created / propagate some kind of ideology.
                      1. Day 11
                        Day 11 22 August 2013 23: 15 New
                        0
                        Emotions aside. Kurt Knispel was ASOM or wasn’t (according to your understanding) I would like to hear a detailed answer. I heard about Martin Schroif and Otto Carius (even read about him) and many others
                      2. Kars
                        Kars 22 August 2013 23: 29 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Den 11
                        Emotions aside

                        By the way, and to which nation are you combing me?

                        Quote: Den 11
                        Kurt Knispel was ASOM or not (according to your understanding)

                        He was an effective tanker, according to German data. But to believe them or not to believe is another question. For the most part, I don’t care - especially on heavy tanks, you can even say tower tank destroyers with a quantitative superiority of the enemy in armored vehicles (abundance goals) this is quite commonplace, and moreover it depended more on personal luck, our Lavrinenko did not die in the tank.

                        http://tankfront.ru/snipers/snipers.html
                      3. experienced
                        experienced 22 August 2013 23: 33 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Kars
                        By the way, and to which nation are you combing me?

                        A Ukrainian who wants only good things for his Motherland !!! You can banish as you like, but I’m a Russian who knows for sure that Andrei, who lives in Ukraine, knows better what suits him and his country hi
                      4. Kars
                        Kars 22 August 2013 23: 54 New
                        +3
                        Thanks.)))))
                    2. Day 11
                      Day 11 22 August 2013 23: 39 New
                      0
                      Well, Andrei. I thought you would give a more detailed answer. What quantitative superiority (since October 1943?) Is he a hero or not (within the borders of the 3rd Reich)? Forget that he fought for our enemies (he was not in the SS). Like a soldier, like a tankman
                    3. experienced
                      experienced 22 August 2013 23: 48 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Den 11
                      Well, Andrey. I thought you would give a more detailed answer.

                      Denis, I'm sorry to harness your argument with Andrei ... It seems to me (exclusively) that Andrei in the armored topic on this site has reached the level of a master, like me and romanoff in boltology, and therefore it may be time for the site administration to raise a question so that his truly deserved rating was not equal to mine or romanovsky (boltology)?
                      Andrey, a good specialist (there is also Akim), who understands (combined with Akim) in the armored vehicles of Ukraine, but receives a "-" in politics. hi
                      And now, think the devil, they live in Ukraine and see much better where Ukraine is better to go than some city from Vladivostok wassat
                    4. Day 11
                      Day 11 22 August 2013 23: 57 New
                      0
                      Alexey, I’m arguing! Andrey really knows a lot about armored vehicles! I just wanted to know his attitude about German tank aces. T. This topic is not unfair to me. I wanted to hear from him --- THEY really were heroes (for HIS people) ?
                    5. Kars
                      Kars 23 August 2013 00: 00 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Den 11
                      I wanted to hear from him --- THEY were really heroes (for their people)?

                      But I don’t belong to THEIR people. From their side you can say anything.


                      As hands and money reach the tiger I will do this
                      option
                    6. experienced
                      experienced 23 August 2013 00: 01 New
                      0
                      Quote: Den 11
                      I don’t dispute! Andrei really knows a lot about armored vehicles! I just wanted to know his attitude about German tank aces. T. This topic is not unfair to me. I wanted to hear from him --- THEY were really heroes (for HIS people)?

                      Denis, excuse me, I probably just mistook you for another mongrel that bites a "marshal" in a pack hi
                      Andrei never aspired to epaulets on the site (I know, saw) and at the same time he has knowledge and photos on tanks just for a glimpse belay
                      But I’m just used to being accused of everything that’s possible ... But he is a normal person, a patriot of the country, and we would have to learn from him in love for the Motherland hi
                    7. gud123
                      gud123 27 August 2013 20: 20 New
                      0
                      Yap and ostentatious .....
              2. Kars
                Kars 22 August 2013 23: 54 New
                +2
                Quote: Den 11
                .I thought you would give a more detailed answer

                Give me your answer, I'll see.

                Quote: Den 11
                What quantitative superiority (since October 1943?)

                Read more carefully, please - the numerical superiority of Soviet tank units, which gave an abundance of targets. My grandfather on ISU-122, and on Su-85 I have never seen a tiger except on SPAMs, and they knocked it out many times in the main PT guns.

                Quote: Den 11
                Whether he is a hero or not (within the borders of the 3 Reich)
                I do not enter the borders of the Third Reich, but if you want to give an assessment - he is not a hero, he is a dangerous enemy.
                Quote: Den 11
                (he was not in the SS). Like a soldier. Like a tankman

                I don’t care about the Wehrmacht or the SS, he is an enemy, albeit artificially, lucky and what kind of epithets he himself will substitute.
              3. Day 11
                Day 11 23 August 2013 00: 01 New
                0
                Andrei, I’ve posted your photos to me ... Do you want me to lay out the damaged T-34-85 or ISU? This is not an indicator
              4. Kars
                Kars 23 August 2013 00: 04 New
                +2
                Quote: Den 11
                Andrew, I have your photos posted.

                But you reacted. And vryatli you can lay out something that I did not see.
              5. Day 11
                Day 11 23 August 2013 00: 10 New
                0
                Right now I’ll rummage around in the archive. I will try to surprise you. You saw the pictures of the BTR and Panther that I uploaded (article about detection). If not, look
              6. Kars
                Kars 23 August 2013 00: 16 New
                +1
                I saw a very long time if honestly.
            2. Day 11
              Day 11 23 August 2013 00: 16 New
              0
              How do you like this? Four tankmen, four merry friends ...
            3. Kars
              Kars 23 August 2013 00: 24 New
              +1
              Saw,)))))))))))
            4. Kars
              Kars 23 August 2013 00: 25 New
              +1
              Here is an even bigger photo
  • Bronis
    Bronis 22 August 2013 12: 12 New
    +3
    Quote: Kars
    in the photo, all the same, Ferdinand, not Elephant.

    Well, yes, the machine gun has not yet been seen.
  • kadet54
    kadet54 22 August 2013 12: 48 New
    +3
    Quote: Kars
    Good article, only in the photo all the same Ferdinand, not Elephant.

    Yes, exactly Ferdinand.
  • Trailer
    Trailer 22 August 2013 10: 06 New
    +4
    Thank you so much for the interesting article!
  • Iraclius
    Iraclius 22 August 2013 10: 10 New
    +9
    The Germans made a fatal miscalculation - they relied on the individual power of their tanks, at the cost of high complexity and resource intensity. The development of events showed the fallacy of such a strategy during the Second World War - the Royal Tiger was weaker than T-VI. Well, our "thirty-four", yes with an 85-mm gun, and with a well-coordinated crew, worked wonders. good Thanks to the tank heroes and bow to the ground.
    1. bairat
      bairat 23 August 2013 15: 11 New
      +1
      The fatal miscalculation of the Germans was that they began to fight on two fronts. And their technique was excellent, such that the crews of 34s simply did not have time to get along, they were mostly knocked out in the first or second battle. I understand that this is unpleasant to hear, but I am also jarred by "she just worked miracles."
      1. Alex
        Alex 7 February 2014 20: 42 New
        0
        Quote: bairat
        The fatal miscalculation of the Germans is that they began to fight on two fronts.
        And where is the soyuznichki so much to prevent the Germans from fighting? Yes, until the 44th they even breathed every other time, and then if the mafia helped. So there is no need to play the Anglo-American record about the "second front" - a gramophone, and that one is tired.
  • Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 22 August 2013 10: 49 New
    +8
    The article is very interesting.
    But I would like to say such a thing on my own: I am personally quite skeptical when they say that a separate tank crew in a tank battle knocked out so many specific tanks (I’m talking not only about ours, but also about German tankers, well, our allies are generally here it doesn’t count, because they did not encounter such a confrontation as we had with the Germans). Not because I don’t believe that the crew could have knocked out, for example, 5 tanks (this is still modest with us, the Germans have it there so much that the pilots and the tankers have kilometer accounts), not different.
    I'll explain now.
    At one time I had a chance to talk to one grandfather (he probably isn't even alive), who fought as the commander of a T-34 tank. This worthy man passed and Prokhorovka. To the question "how many fascists were knocked out then," he replied: "Aah, son, I counted them or what? Here you go at speed, there is smoke around, no x ... you can't see it. As soon as the haze opens, you see - a German is opposite you, we throw a shell, bang, or we hit, or not - we do not see, because again there is smoke around. So they shot. "- therefore, based on the words of our veteran, I drew certain conclusions, for example, when a tank sits in ambush (like a tank Kolobanov), then this is one thing, it is still possible to count, but when ours and the Germans are "wall to wall", then what are the calculations here ?? Although, I repeat, the Soviet political organizers, in contrast to the German ones, acted more modestly, and did not enter the bounds of "science" fiction.
    And yet, this grandfather told how they rammed a German tank "Tiger" in the fields of Poland. I don't remember all the circumstances of the story, but the essence is that the German appeared suddenly, perpendicular to our tank (so that ours were facing the German's starboard side), the distance was about 70 meters, everything was fast enough. Ours gave full throttle, flooded to ram. So from the commander's cupola of "Tiger" Fritz leaned out with headphones slid to one side, and twisted our finger at his temple. In general, the ram did not work. My grandfather said that, they say, the German managed to turn his forehead, but, frankly, I can't imagine how the clumsy "Tiger" could turn so quickly, although anything can happen in war, but I suppose that both ours and the Germans just silently parted without consequences.
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  • Geokingxnumx
    Geokingxnumx 22 August 2013 13: 21 New
    10
    Soviet soldiers inspect the German tank Pz.Kpfw captured in the city of Uman. V Ausf. A “Panther” three days after the liberation of the city from the 10 invaders March 1944
    1. Iraclius
      Iraclius 22 August 2013 14: 38 New
      +4
      And yet - to what extent this Hitlerite "beast" was monstrously huge. People are like ants against them. The current MBT are much more flat and more compact. How much courage is needed to oppose the power of these armored monsters with a thin anti-tank armor shield or the audacity and speed of the much more modest defense of the T-34! No words ...
      1. Geokingxnumx
        Geokingxnumx 22 August 2013 15: 29 New
        +4
        Quote: Iraclius
        And yet - to what extent this Hitlerite "beast" was monstrously huge.

        Yes! in truth, he Loved the Big Machines!

        Shturmtigr. Captured parts of 3 A 1-th Belorus. Front. r.Elba, 1945

        Heavy tank Pz.Kpfw. VI Ausf. B "Royal Tiger" from the 501-th SS Heavy Tank Battalion, stuck and destroyed by Soviet artillery. The number of the Soviet trophy team "95". Lake Balaton District

        Destroyed by the German heavy ACS fighter tank "Jagdtigr" ("Jagdtiger"). The car was created on the basis of the Tiger II tank and is the heaviest mass-produced armored vehicles (weight - 75 tons)
      2. Albert1988
        Albert1988 22 August 2013 15: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: Iraclius
        And yet - to what extent this Hitlerite "beast" was monstrously huge.

        And all because the Germans, having seen the idea of ​​inclined armor plates of the hull sheets from us, decided not to tilt them inward, but to "bend" outward - then the volume of the inner hull was preserved - the Germans, you know, needed comfort, sometimes it seems that Mr. Porsche did not I really understood what tanks were doing, not elite "supercars" laughing
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 22 August 2013 15: 47 New
          -3
          Less to you (no offense). Right now, KARS will explain everything to you! People really drag! And it wasn’t comfort
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 22 August 2013 16: 17 New
            +2
            Thank you for your honesty, next time I will specially write: and now I say "as a joke", to smile at everyone ...
            And now, no kidding - the fact that Comrade Kars "really drags" - I have known for a long time - for more than a year on the site as a reader, this time. Secondly, the version I gave that the Germans were trying to preserve the internal volume of the hull was considered by some authors of the relevant literature (Kotorin had such a name), you also seemed to have "your own opinion" about the chassis of German cars. And you from me, too, minus no offense. hi
            1. Kars
              Kars 22 August 2013 16: 36 New
              +5
              Quote: Albert1988
              decided not to tilt them inward, but to "bend" outward - then the volume of the inner body was preserved - it was

              Well, I haven’t heard about this. They arranged the internal volume more with the line-up initially. But they sometimes reduced the angles for better habitability, but that would be straight out.

              Here is an example where the Germans reduced the slope of the armor - Jagdpanther.
              1. Iraclius
                Iraclius 22 August 2013 17: 03 New
                +2
                Hetzer!
                Compact, fairly cheap, rational angles of inclination of armor plates and 75-mm gun in the appendage. good
              2. Albert1988
                Albert1988 22 August 2013 17: 10 New
                0
                Thank you for your reply)
                Quote: Kars
                Well, about this I have not heard

                I admit, I also saw this hypothesis from only one author. He argued that it was just a larger internal volume and made it possible to create a lineup that ensured the convenience of the crew, the convenient placement of ammunition, etc. Hence the large size of the machines.
      3. alex-cn
        alex-cn 22 August 2013 17: 01 New
        +1
        and what is there to inspect? so in Russian they heartily said that it’s just a bunch of scrap metal,
        1. Iraclius
          Iraclius 22 August 2013 17: 10 New
          +1
          To take to the rear and to study the damage is simply necessary. There are two goals:
          1. To adopt the technological experience of the enemy.
          2. Identify vulnerabilities in enemy vehicles.

          I thought these things are obvious. smile
        2. Geokingxnumx
          Geokingxnumx 22 August 2013 17: 12 New
          +6

          View from the German tank Pz.Kpfw. VI "Tiger" during the battle. Ahead is the burning T-34. USSR, 1944 year

          Tank commander, Lieutenant B.V. Smelov shows a hole in the turret of the German tank "Tiger", shot down by the crew of Smelov, lieutenant Lihnyakevich (who hit the Nazi tank 2 in the last battle). This hole made the usual armor-piercing projectile from 76-millimeter tank guns

          The tower of the German tank PzKpfw. VI "Tiger" №142 of the 501-th tank battalion destroyed by the explosion

          Disabled war at the exhibition of captured German military equipment in Moscow. In the center is the Pz.Kpfw tank. VI "Tiger" of the 502-th battalion of heavy tanks of the Wehrmacht (tactical number of the tank - "100 ″), captured by Soviet troops near Leningrad

          The German Jagdpanzer IV / 34 (V) is burning with a wounded tank t-85-18 from the 70 tank corps of the Red Army. Hungary, March 1945 of the year

          Column of German assault guns Stug III, destroyed by Soviet aircraft
          Parts of the 2-th tank group of the Wehrmacht are crossing the water barrier. In the foreground is the StuG III Ausf.C / D assault gun from the 177th assault guns division (Sturmgeschütz-Abt. 177), in the background the Bussing-Nag G31 atomic car with the emblem of the 2th tank group (“G” - Guderian) on the right wing. The end of October 1941 g
          1. Geokingxnumx
            Geokingxnumx 22 August 2013 17: 22 New
            +3

            famous photo and video too! although not Soviet people destroyed it, but the card is very good
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90vnW1UR5hY




            1. Day 11
              Day 11 22 August 2013 17: 34 New
              -1
              We must neighing with you? And on the topic ???
              1. Geokingxnumx
                Geokingxnumx 22 August 2013 17: 39 New
                +1
                Quote: Den 11
                We have to to laugh with you? And on the topic

                not! which neigh))) just only one photo is added and when I edit my second post I can add a lot of photos!
                1. Day 11
                  Day 11 22 August 2013 17: 45 New
                  +1
                  Off-topic question: Tell me, buddy, can I go to your Batum resort? I say right away, I have been REPEATED repeatedly in Abkhazia (through the PSOU). Will I be arrested?
                  1. Geokingxnumx
                    Geokingxnumx 22 August 2013 17: 55 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Den 11
                    "Can I go to your Batum resort? I say right away, I have been REPEATED in Abkhazia (through the PSOU). Do I get arrested?"

                    if this is the first time you will be fined
                    If in Abkhazia you want to go better through Georgia so that you would not have a problem in Georgia!
                    you will not be arrested, as I know, they will just be fined and may not be fined if you are lucky) but you can go to the resort of Batumi!

                    I ask now and I will give 100% answer
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 22 August 2013 18: 00 New
                      +1
                      Quote: GEOKING95
                      If in Abkhazia you want to go better through Georgia

                      Russians go directly to the independent state of Abkhazia, but to problems with Georgia laughing
                      1. Geokingxnumx
                        Geokingxnumx 22 August 2013 18: 09 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Russians go directly to the independent state of Abkhazia, but to problems with Georgia

                        Whatever problems are in Georgia (Fine or Arrest) through Georgia is better! if of course they want to rest in Georgia
                        I just gave advice
  • Day 11
    Day 11 22 August 2013 14: 42 New
    -10 qualifying.
    Another Mr. Reset! This fight, in fact, looked a little different. Yes, we won and crushed everyone. The question is, at what cost? Once again I tell you --- you need to learn from the Hans! Next --- everyone has computers - on the edge. I'll tell you
  • kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 22 August 2013 14: 45 New
    +8
    We can guys. God grant that they could. I read the memoirs of the commander of my grandfather’s regiment, so my grandfather alone with one crowbar stopped a German tank. They had Czech-made roofing felts of German-made roofing felts with lightweight electric drives, so the generator behind the tower was only closed by a grid and they were trained if the generator would stop the tank from stopping. there was a healthy kid) then the crew banged. True, I read it myself, then I asked the grandfather, yes, I really don’t remember everything at that moment, as it was delirious.
    For this feat he was given a medal of courage in 1941 by veterans who know what it is to receive a medal of courage in the fall of the 41st.
    That's how the sergeant Fighting Cossack Grigory Savchenko fought the Guard. God forbid that we could if necessary, otherwise how can I come to him at the grave later.
    1. Iraclius
      Iraclius 22 August 2013 15: 03 New
      +3
      Uh ... Could you tell us more about Czech tanks with a generator behind the tower? Something I have not heard. winked
    2. Alan
      Alan 22 August 2013 20: 09 New
      0
      Quote: kapitan281271
      God forbid that we could if necessary, otherwise how can I come to him at the grave later.

      Only for these words + you are sorry only one I can.
  • kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 22 August 2013 15: 23 New
    +2
    I don’t know much about this, I wrote that I don’t know whose cars it is, I’m not an expert and I don’t know the performance characteristics of tanks to the nearest centimeter of armor or millimeter, although I always treated people who know and remember such things with great respect this probably says about their professionalism you are one and really want to catch me in a lie, I'm not going to discuss this issue. This is not the case. The man writes not about who Kirkorov slept with today or to whom Pugacheva created another m *** t. A man writes about people with whom my twelve-year-old son should take an example. Bad examples we always find ourselves, and my son doesn’t pass this, it’s clear. But it is necessary, if possible, first of all to write about those worthy of whom there were millions. In short, we must try to make it better; it will turn out badly.
    1. Iraclius
      Iraclius 22 August 2013 16: 00 New
      +2
      kapitan281271calmly. I just asked to tell you more about tanks with an electric generator located behind the tower. Because I do not know about the existence of such.
      If I wanted to pin, I would put the appropriate emoticons. request
      1. kapitan281271
        kapitan281271 23 August 2013 11: 04 New
        0
        Honestly, I did not think that you were teasing me. And I really don’t know anything about these cars. I myself am interested in this topic but not where I have not seen it in the literature. I know only from the stories of my grandfather and the memoirs of the regiment. As far as I understood, it was somewhere in Ukraine there were a dozen and a half crew of three people armed only with a machine gun or machine guns. Grandfather served in the IPTAP was a gun commander. Apart from the grandfather and the gunner, the tanks saw the first battle and draped it, it’s understandable then, not all the tractors saw it, and the grandfather could read and write and became the gunner’s gunner. He and the gunner remained in a confusion that can only be imagined; one machine broke through, crushed the gun, and then I wrote. Then the whole war did not see anything like it. The tank was intact. It’s clear that it’s taken off, it’s not known where they sent or maybe the stars drew and the next day somewhere in Ukraine it burned out who knows. And as far as I understood, the engine compartment was closed by a metal mesh, I already made conclusions that the engine compartment was behind the tower and my grandfather told me that he had jumped in from the back. In general, an amazing person was not afraid of anything; the last award after the war received neighbors robbed at night; he heard a noise burst into two freaks with a sawed-off shotgun; grandmother tied it up and then muttered at him for a long time that he needed most.
    2. Alan
      Alan 22 August 2013 20: 10 New
      0
      Quote: kapitan281271
      A man writes about people with whom my twelve-year-old son should take an example. Bad examples we always find ourselves



      So you need to properly educate your children. And if you can, and strangers (those nearby) to put on the right path.
  • lelikas
    lelikas 22 August 2013 16: 23 New
    0
    Unfortunately, this is the only known result of the battles of Soviet tankers with the strongest enemy tanks.
    It’s somehow strange for the author - one result is known for a year of fighting.
    1. Iraclius
      Iraclius 22 August 2013 17: 06 New
      +1
      You will be surprised, but even the dates of the appearance of Hitler's "heavy forces" on the Eastern Front differ in archival documents. And in combat conditions, it was not easy to distinguish the latest T-IV from the T-VI.
  • Crang
    Crang 22 August 2013 19: 36 New
    +4
    What was it? Advertising of German technology? Why did the author, in contrast to the newest German cats and "Uncle Fedya", put the basic medium tank of the beginning of the war T-34-76, not forgetting where to underestimate its real performance characteristics? Why was not a word said about the much more powerful T-34-85 series? Why didn't the KV-85 high-speed heavy tanks, which were completely equivalent to the Panthers and the classic Tigers, received any attention? Where did the IS-2 heavy tank "disappear"? In what swamps were the formidable "Hunters" SU-152, ISU-152, ISU-122, ISU-122S stuck? Why didn't you notice the SU-100, which was nicknamed "Pi ** ets to all" in the troops? This installation was equipped at that time with an extremely powerful, accurate and at the same time rapid-fire 100mm rifled D-10S cannon (its modifications in the D-10T2S variant continue to fire from the towers of numerous T-54/55 / ​​Type variants to this day). We must not forget about this - it was not possible to overcome the German menagerie with the "Thirty-fours" of the basic model, no matter what losses were incurred. By the way, the first battle with the "Royal Tigers" was carried out by the T-34-85, while destroying three "cats".
    1. Drummer
      Drummer 22 August 2013 20: 02 New
      +3
      The first Koenigtigers were bombarded just from the T-34-76 (Oskin’s crew), and the vehicles you listed appeared on the front near the end of the war (the Su-100 was first noted at Budapest in January 1945 and didn’t make a furore).
  • bublic82009
    bublic82009 22 August 2013 20: 37 New
    0
    some kind of story is very populist. the Germans had better tank hunters, but in the story they were somehow poorly lit. I mean Hetzler and all sorts of yagtigers and panthers. our 76 mm cannon on the ZIS-3 tank chassis is still not a bad system.
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 23 August 2013 00: 40 New
      -1
      Well, for example, German aces had a crown number to get a disc inside the enemy’s trunk
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 23 August 2013 00: 46 New
        -1
        Piz-you! Do you imagine this?
        1. soldier's grandson
          soldier's grandson 23 August 2013 00: 55 New
          -1
          this is information from military secrets with Igor Prokopenko by ren tv
        2. soldier's grandson
          soldier's grandson 23 August 2013 01: 00 New
          0
          justify the minuses
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 23 August 2013 01: 27 New
            0
            Yes, because don’t listen to stupid things. What caliber did they want to get into the barrel of the gun? With what guns? From the tank? Which? Bullshit is this! Think, analyze. Kars even say, I wouldn’t say anything. Just turn on your head!
  • Vadim2013
    Vadim2013 22 August 2013 20: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: Stiletto
    The country really lacks those who died then. The best of the best.
    I agree.
  • Yemelya
    Yemelya 22 August 2013 23: 22 New
    +1
    Che-that did not understand at the expense of the thickness of the armor of the sides of the hull and turret of "Tiger-B", at the exhibition of captured equipment. Increased in the production process, or what? Couldn't those who measure it be so wrong ... Or did they measure it wrong? Although, what could be easier? request
  • wecher75
    wecher75 26 August 2013 17: 53 New
    0
    Tanks are not fighting, but tankers. The most beautiful tank driven by an untrained and inexperienced crew is a mountain of scrap metal. By the way, most of the successes of German tank aces, in many respects being multi-stakeholder (One would think that their taxi drivers marked their shells to reliably calculate the destroyed tanks), is based on the training of crews and their combat experience gained on other tanks.
  • Sanny
    Sanny 27 May 2017 16: 30 New
    0
    Excellent article!
  • BEECH 1972
    BEECH 1972 14 September 2017 15: 46 New
    0
    On August 12, the commander of the 53rd Guards Tank Brigade (hereinafter - Guards TB) of the Guard Colonel BC Arkhipov received an intelligence message about the arrival of unknown heavy tanks at his site. For a "hot meeting" of the armored "guests" a combined tank and artillery ambush was organized. Its principle was to force German tanks to deploy in combat so as to substitute weakly protected sides for a Soviet tank disguised on the flank. For this, the Germans had to provoke an “flirting” group to attack. For the operation, two medium and one light tanks were allocated, the group was headed by Senior Lieutenant P.T. Ivushkin.
    In an ambush disguised as a stack of straw, of which there were many in the recently harvested field, T-34-85 was left junior lieutenant A.P. Oskin. The sound of an ambush tank was camouflaged by specially organized shelling. T-34 Ivushkina and a light tank were supposed to force the Germans to attack in the "right" direction.
    1. BEECH 1972
      BEECH 1972 14 September 2017 15: 47 New
      +1
      On August 13, at 7:00, the 14 “royal tigers” launched an attack from the eastern outskirts of the village of Oglenduv.
      Here is how BC Arkhipov described the further development of the situation: “Major Korobov also radiated from the left flank:“ They are coming. Those unidentified ones. ” I answer: “Do not rush. How to persuade: to hit from four hundred meters. " Meanwhile, the second such a whopper crawled out of the hollow, then the third appeared. They appeared at significant intervals. Either this is their authorized distance, or the weak soil delayed them, but while the third came out of the hollow, the first already passed the ambush of Ivushkin. "Beat?" - he asked. “Hit!” I see how the side of the mop moved slightly, where the tank of the second lieutenant Oskin is standing. Sheaf rolled down, became visible cannon barrel. He jerked, then more and more. Oskin fired. "
      And here is how A.P. Oskin himself saw it:
      “Not far from my ambush, German tanks began to unfold in a line. Nearby two hundred meters framed the side. Naturally, the first shell hit the tower - to no avail. Then the next shell was sent under the tower, and a huge flame shot up in the air: in this place near the new tank was a gas tank. In the same way, we set fire to two more cars. ”
      1. BEECH 1972
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        Following this, on the orders of the brigade commander, shelling of the hollow began, along which the rest of the German tanks advanced. The command of the 501st TTB ordered its crews to retreat back to Oglenduv, but the hostilities did not end there. Having concentrated his forces by 22:00, the 2nd and 3rd TB brigades burst into the village with the support of a company of machine gunners. Here they captured several "royal tigers", whose crews did not expect an attack. All three tanks (tower numbers 102, 502, 234) were in good condition. It turned out that vehicles Nos. 102 and 502 were the commander’s versions of the tank, which, in addition to the regular walkie-talkies, carried additional, more powerful ones (the latter contained pristine ammunition and refueling tanks, and it started up half-turn during the test). The “Royal Tigers” Nos. 102 and 502 were later sent to Kubinka for research, and today Tank 502 is an exhibit of the museum of armored vehicles opened there.
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        It was the “CT” with tail number 502 that stood in the kubinka and the inscription “Glory to Korobov” was displayed on the barrel of his gun.
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          And it is this victory of the guard of the second lieutenant Alexander Petrovich Oskin that was immortalized in his game by the developers of the arcade tank simulator World of Tanks, the Belarusian studio Wargaming.net, introducing the Oskin Medal into the game.