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"The end of the American century?"

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"The end of the American century?"If the modern world will be somewhat similar to the “ideal time of capitalism”, the 19th century, then it will not be the lack of a social sphere and a state in the economy, but multipolarity. And Russia has a base for a breakthrough.


The domination of America was genuine, but not long.

В historical In the long run, unipolar systems are the exception rather than the rule, and US leadership has been temporary.

The rise of the United States in the XIX century crowned the end of such processes as the acquisition of land and resources, as well as ethnic cleansing and immigration, which began with the time of Columbus. However, this fact alone does not explain the reasons for the rise of the United States, given that Latin America has experienced the same thing. Nor does it simply explain the legacy of the traditions of Anglo-Saxon Protestantism. The south of the United States, populated by the British and controlled by them, took the path of development of Latin America.

To this day, the southern states live on public funds coming from the North.

The Industrial North was completely different. The industry of the North was faced with a forced increase in labor costs, as the workers could always make a choice in favor of farming on the border lands stretching far to the west.

Thus, due to the high cost of labor, the industrial sectors in the north of the country had to continually improve, using the most efficient production methods. The United States also adhered to a coherent development program based on the support of new industries through duties.

Alexander Hamilton presented this vision of US policy to Congress in his Report on Manufactures in 1791. Although the ideas of this report were initially rejected by supporters of the open market from the South, its duties in a modified form were adopted by Congress in the year 1794. So began the rise of America. It was based on the principles of support for new industries, later listed and extolled by Friedrich Liszt and the German Historical School and which also led to the strengthening of Germany.

Moreover, by the end of the 19th century, the United States created its own economic school as opposed to the economic liberalism that dominated the elite academies of the Anglophilia.

Among their first graduates at the end of the 19th century were students from Japan, who subsequently led the creation of their state-driven development model. One of the main principles of this American school was that the markets in the classical economic tradition should be free from rent. In short, it is necessary to regulate the economy in order to avoid interest on rents and extract profits from the economy of production and services. This is the true definition of a free market economy in the classical tradition, and often a high level of regulation is necessary to achieve it.

Meanwhile, the United States maintained a very small army and did not interfere in the ongoing strife in Europe. This policy was voiced by the first president of the United States, George Washington, in his farewell address to the instructions of the Americans to stay away from endless European wars. This became the official policy with the proclamation of the Monroe Doctrine (set out by John Quincy Adams).

This doctrine stated that the United States must continue to adhere to a policy of non-interference in the affairs of Europe and to act actively only to maintain its influence in Latin American countries.

This policy passed the test of Greece’s attempt to gain independence from the Ottoman Empire, when many Americans called on the government to intervene and help Greece. The United States refrained from intervening, but Greece gained independence. Thus, before World War II, the United States maintained a very small army for most of its history. This avoided the cost of big wars (the only exception was the Civil War), which resolved the issue in favor of maintaining high duties and industrialization.

The United States continued to increase its industrial power beyond the wall of high duties, rejecting Britain’s demands for a free trade policy.

Despite a brief lull in the middle of the 19th century, marked by the dominance of economic liberalism in Europe and a slowdown in economic development, at the end of the 19th century, intervention policies were very unsuccessfully used by most European countries (as well as Japan and Russia). In the meantime, the US did not stop supporting new industries with the help of duties, and as a result, their economy continued to grow rapidly.

Unlike the United States, India and China, the once powerful powers, were for a long time relegated to the role of British colonies open to the free market. In practice, for China, this meant opening up to the opium trade with the British-led India. Then there was the collapse of an efficient state and the decline of the hydraulic infrastructure (agriculture and transport system), which marked the fifty-year period of poverty and hunger in China.

Compared with the United States and Germany, the real sector of the British economy was already at the beginning of a recession by the end of the 19th century. England relied on empire, free trade with Latin American countries, and its dominant influence in the financial sector, while the US continued to pursue policies to promote industrial development, protected by both import duties and shipping costs across the Atlantic.

XX century passed under the sign of US hegemony. The rivalry with the USSR complicated it almost 40 years. The collapse of the enemy in the Cold War was a gift for the United States. The economy received a powerful impetus, as it seemed, finally having overcome the consequences of the crisis of the 1970s.

The principles of the “Washington Consensus” (“Washington Consensus” - a liberal type of macroeconomic policy, which at the end of the 20th century was recommended by the leadership of the IMF and the World Bank for use in countries experiencing a financial and economic crisis - note VZGLYAD) were adopted by most countries on the planet.

However, increased hegemony was temporary. Even a reduction in democracy, which turned out to be “too much”, did not help. In 2008, a new crisis erupted. And it was impossible to solve the problem by moving production to countries with lower wages (especially to China). This recipe has already been used. The financial system was no longer stable.

The dream of liberal economists to return the US to the "golden age", to find somewhere the basis for growth on the model of the XIX century does not have a chance to materialize.

The Washington Consensus system was very profitable in 1982 – 2008, but it did a lot of damage. Its crisis became the basis of the crisis of the US economy and the effectiveness of their policies. The Washington Consensus system has reduced the number of innovations, investments in technological developments have fallen, which would help to cope with the shortage and high cost of resources. The neoliberal system turned out to be really conservative.

The experience of the European Union with “austerity” as a way to put things in order turned out to be extremely unfortunate. The Tea Party movement in vain wants to find a solution to the problems of the US economy in these recipes.

In the 2009 – 2013 years, the United States managed to gain time. This was done through financial policies, new methods of energy production. And the prices for it will not grow noticeably. However, this will contribute to returning the world to a multipolar state, since the BRICS countries will now have to break with the Washington Consensus and pursue a more independent economic policy, which will open up new opportunities for industrial and political rivalry in the world. And Russia has a base for a breakthrough. This is human potential and technical infrastructure. All this can and should be used.

And if the modern world will be somewhat similar to the “ideal time of capitalism” - the 19th century, then not by the absence of the social sphere and the state in the economy (which liberal economists dream of), but by multipolarity.

But everything will be a new way, and development will be based on new principles. They still need to be worked out and understood, but they are clearly replacing the neoliberal “Washington consensus”.
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  1. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 22 August 2013 15: 24 New
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    The end of the American century - yes. All empires left, all civilizations changed. The United States will also leave, European civilization will change. But when - this is another question. Past shifts of empires and civilizations (Greek, Roman, etc.) did not take place immediately. But then the times were different - slow. Now time flies fast. I think the United States has about 30 years. But there is a nuance: further globalization can help the United States “stay” afloat - the empire is growing, while it is able to expand and “stir up” water in other parts of the world.
    And what will European civilization take? I bet on China. In 50 years.
    1. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 22 August 2013 15: 31 New
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      hi
      And what will European civilization take? I bet on China

      And I bet on Russia!
      1. Apologet.Ru
        Apologet.Ru 22 August 2013 15: 39 New
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        And the video in the topic -
        1. starhina01
          starhina01 22 August 2013 16: 10 New
          +8
          THANKS HAPPENED good
          1. Apologet.Ru
            Apologet.Ru 22 August 2013 18: 51 New
            +2
            Always happy yes .
      2. serge-68-68
        serge-68-68 22 August 2013 15: 46 New
        +9
        You can wish for anything. But things must be looked at objectively. Two world wars and one civil war undermined the progressive (term from the Strugatsky) potential of Russia. The potential of Islam will most likely be greatly expended in the confrontation with the USA (or in the struggle of the USA for its own life). But China is silently building up strength, like that monkey watching the clash of two predators.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 22 August 2013 16: 10 New
          +7
          You are right - Russia, unfortunately, was greatly exhausted by the cataclysms of the twentieth century, and China quietly sat behind the backs of the USSR and the USA. But now the situation is a little different, see for yourself - China has clearly gained strength and can already compete with the striped ones, they have already sensed a teenage superpower and are beginning to proactively “roll the barrel” at a future competitor. And in this situation, Russia has an excellent position - and China and the United States, for many reasons, no longer see Russia as something more than a raw-material ancestor (in the sense that it will become nothing more), therefore they most likely will not pay special attention to us - they will be busy with their confrontation, so Russia will be able to take a break, tackle the solution of its internal problems and accumulate strength for a new upsurge. Of course optimistic, but I want to hope. that it will be so))
          1. eplewke
            eplewke 22 August 2013 16: 23 New
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            Nothing! After the October Revolution, we were not even a raw materials appendage, the country is a corpse! And nothing. Hitler was defeated, man was launched into space, the fleet and the best army in the world were rebuilt. so that too early you are comrades in Russia discarded.
            1. Imigrantt
              Imigrantt 22 August 2013 18: 19 New
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              I absolutely agree! For 20 years, such a vastness as Russia cannot be repainted. Let's see in 20 more !!! Soon, only cats are kittens !!! Do not fuck ... you need to work !!!
            2. regsSSSR
              regsSSSR 22 August 2013 19: 50 New
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              Quote: eplewke
              Nothing! After the October Revolution, we were not even a raw materials appendage, the country is a corpse! And nothing. Hitler was defeated, man was launched into space, the fleet and the best army in the world were rebuilt. so that too early you are comrades in Russia discarded.


              everything seems to be like that and the ability to revive Russia from the ashes is certainly impressive BUT! then there was an IDEA! there was an emotional rise of nations! there was a nationwide desire for a goal, even if it may be illusory, but great in its ideological incarnations! when for the sake of blood and sweat the whole country worked from small to large, without exception !! in Russia today we have only to dream of such a chas! when the main great IDEA of present-day Russia came down to some kind of competitive process, who steals the dough more and dumps him where, in his opinion, it is better to live with complete impunity and for frequent and indulgence from above! when no one wants to think or do anything while sitting in his garden (sorry the hacienda)) behind a five-meter fence! when your shirt is closer to your body and after us even a flood with all this unprecedented in the history of Russia pressure on us from outside various foreign structures and organizing on all ideological and economic fronts! that’s why you comrades call for insolence, but with all this, there’s no need to speak of any great revival of Russia! so miserable attempts to at least look great!
          2. denson06
            denson06 22 August 2013 16: 27 New
            +2
            therefore, most likely they will not particularly pay attention to us - they will be busy with their confrontation, so Russia will be able to rest

            Far from a fact .. oddly enough, over the past few years, our Chinese partners have been conducting exercises in units located exclusively in the north of China (read - near the border with Russia) .. and these exercises do not work out the defensive nature of the fighting, but the offensive ... what are they so prepared for if the relations between the countries are friendly?
            I really hope that Albert1988 will be right in his assumptions ... and that my worries are exaggerated ..
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 22 August 2013 17: 35 New
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              Quote: denson06
              conduct exercises in parts located exclusively in the north of China (read - near the border with Russia)

              This, of course, is a disturbing fact, but one must understand that when it comes to such major powers as we, America or China, certain actions may be motivated by something completely unknown and incomprehensible to us - and these teachings may not be at all preparing for an open war with us, and pursue other political goals.
            2. sasha.28blaga
              sasha.28blaga 23 August 2013 05: 21 New
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              Since the Russian Cossacks settled on the Amur River, about once every 50 years there has been a so-called border conflict with China, which ends with the beating of the Chinese and expelling from the territory of Russia the latter without all the property acquired by overwork in Russia.
          3. Avenger711
            Avenger711 22 August 2013 16: 35 New
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            And China had the first half of the 20th century as they wanted. Had a good time, yes. And he lives on average still worse than Russia.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 22 August 2013 17: 36 New
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              Quote: Avenger711
              China had the first half of the 20th century as they wanted. Had a good time, yes. And he lives on average still worse than Russia.

              China lives on average worse than Russia because it has such an abnormally huge population that no economy can provide so many people with a normal standard of living.
              1. smile
                smile 22 August 2013 18: 48 New
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                Albert1988
                But we must admit that the Chinese miracle was made possible in many ways precisely because of the count of free labor and the fact that they do not have a social program in principle.
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 22 August 2013 18: 53 New
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                  Quote: smile
                  But we must admit that the Chinese miracle was made possible in many ways precisely because of the count of free labor and the fact that they do not have a social program in principle.

                  I admit this as a fact, China did not have industry, did not have brains - he attracted everything from abroad and used it for his own good, but we have both industrial potential and brains (until everything has collapsed and flowed away). Well, the natural resources we can say are almost unlimited. The only thing we need is a somewhat long period of rest (the absence of major conflicts, etc.) and if we want to, we can rise again)
                  1. smile
                    smile 22 August 2013 21: 37 New
                    +2
                    Albert1988
                    I agree unconditionally.
                  2. aksakal
                    aksakal 22 August 2013 23: 56 New
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                    Quote: Albert1988
                    The only thing we need is a somewhat long period of rest (the absence of major conflicts, etc.) and if we want to, we can rise again)

                    Both the SMART and professional system of governing the country instead of the current corruption-infected death. You see - Shuvalov is not even afraid, Putin does not care at all, loudly announces that he does not agree with such an excessive fight against corruption, practically without even hiding that his wife is a billionaire business woman. All of them, that of Luzhkov, that of Shuvalov, and practically of all — all of their spouses suddenly found in themselves a real gift of entrepreneurship. And all their protection is based on pure formalism - like, and you prove that I am a corrupt official, and prove that my wife does not have entrepreneurial talents. So the people do not formally reason, the reasoning of the people is based on elementary common sense, and this common sense says that Shuvalov’s wife has no entrepreneurial talents, theft is stupid here, and the presumption of innocence does not work here. I don’t like the States, but there is one good thing for the state tax authorities - you made such and such purchases for such and such a period, and you told us that you have such and such income. We do not have math here. Please be so kind as to prepare a detailed report on how you managed to make ends meet. And it’s not the tax official who is running around and looking for evidence, but the official himself. Like that in the States. Well, I really want to see the insolent Shuvalov, worn with a pale look in search of evidence of his "financial innocence." This official has his own opinion, you see ... And in its present form it sounds like this: “I plowed a lot and even did a lot of bad things to get this chair, and I earned the right to convert part of my authority into money, and if you (to Putin) are just the first among us, peers, because of some stupid urya-patriotic or any other reason we should forbid it, then we will become your enemies! " Such a message, about “that it is impossible to work when you are suspected”, never mind, it’s just political correctness, so it’s common for them, the fucking bureaucrats, to convey their thoughts. And I sincerely do not understand why Putin swallowed such an overt challenge.
                    Here I read on our local site - today, in honor of the death of the battleship Novorossiysk in 1955, when 600 (!!!!) sailors died, some Italian baron, commander of combat swimmers of the 10th Italian flotilla admitted that handiwork. Moreover, he admitted that they intentionally inherited, so that the Soviet people would immediately understand who killed their sailors. And the USSR swallowed such an impudent challenge! You’re talking about it — the USSR, the USSR, the superstate, and that’s how it relates to the lives of HIS faithful sailors! But the women give birth to new ones, why take a steam bath, climb on strains with the Italians, and through them strain on NATO. Needless to say, then the USSR was tormented by all and sundry, especially the States? am Paulus was shot down in 1961 already over the Urals! And that’s all - CONSEQUENCE OF COWARDING!
                    And if Putin does not punish Shuvalov now, no one will count him for hell! I AM FIRST! They threw the glove - and pick it up in a nickle! And the other side in the nickle! And then with the foot of a recumbent, so that all those who could drop the glove tomorrow could see you with that foot in the head so that the skull would crack - that’s how it should be! Sorry, this is life, such is mudflowing vi and such is the truth of life!
                    I share your optimism, but under such a condition - remove corruption with a hot iron and increase the professionalism of managers.
                    1. Albert1988
                      Albert1988 23 August 2013 00: 44 New
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                      I agree with you - the system must either be treated very seriously, or altered altogether, but how can this be done without unnecessary disasters? Russia has exhausted its limit of revolutions - and this was said by one communist, by the way! As for Shuvalov, I’m becoming more and more convinced that this is a professional figurehead - he’s not arrogant, he has such a job - playing a bad guy in the Medvedev government - they (Vova and Dima) seem to be playing a double game - “good cop, bad cop ", and Shuvalov is a small fry, the time will come when he will simply be removed from the board. This is only an assumption — we, ordinary citizens, are far from aware of what is really going on behind the scenes, who Putin is - the sovereign ruler, or puppet of oligarchic circles — we can only guess.
                      About the USSR: Powers shot down not because of cowardice, but because only then there were rockets capable of shooting down the U-2, but over the Urals - there were also purely technical reasons for that. As for the tragic death of the battleship Novorossiysk, which used to be Giulio Cesare, Mr. Borghese could say anything - he did not have the resources to carry out such an operation, many of his former colleagues later acknowledged this, by the way after the collapse of the alliance. About how people were treated in the USSR - yes, sometimes there were episodes of absolute neglect of people, but I think you should not be compared to the current “as if liberals” in exaggerating the inhumanity of the Soviet system. The USSR was pushing even before this episode, the States would begin to roll a barrel at us anyway - we got up their throats, winning the war and gaining great political weight thereafter, and I don’t see cowardice in the USSR’s foreign policy, it was rather in the domestic when everything related to the death of Novorossiysk was so classified that they even decided to bury the dead in secret, not even inviting relatives (!).
                      And then - in my comment there was such a small attribution "if we want" - I had if we - the people - we want, because what is happening in the country (any) depends primarily on the political will of the people of this country smile
                  3. Corsair
                    Corsair 23 August 2013 02: 22 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Albert1988
                    The only thing we need is a somewhat long period of rest (the absence of major conflicts, etc.) and if we want to, we can rise again)


                    Now kakraz (still , three times "Ugh") such a period, the time when you need to forge and swords and screaming.
                    They may not give us another chance ...
                    1. Albert1988
                      Albert1988 23 August 2013 07: 22 New
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                      Corsair
                      Totally agree with you!
                      To paraphrase Turgenev: we must forge swords and screaming, and forge them as best as possible! And as best as possible, and as little as possible!))
          4. Makk
            Makk 22 August 2013 19: 49 New
            +3
            Explain the confrontation between China and the United States.
            IMHO very fruitfully cooperate.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 22 August 2013 20: 10 New
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              We are also cooperating in many areas with America, only Obama "took a break" - many politicians and political scientists say that the Cold War has resumed now. And with China, this is Japan with a dispute over the islands and provoked a dispute, the USA, the rhetoric regarding the Chinese is also not the most pleasant, you can’t write all the aspects in one comment - you need an article, there was a lot of information about it on the Internet and on the site about. But it is clear that China is rising, it will soon become the first economy in the world - but for the United States it is already like a red rag for a bull.
        2. regsSSSR
          regsSSSR 22 August 2013 20: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: serge-68-68
          You can wish for anything. But things must be looked at objectively. Two world wars and one civil war undermined the progressive (term from the Strugatsky) potential of Russia. The potential of Islam will most likely be greatly expended in the confrontation with the USA (or in the struggle of the USA for its own life). But China is silently building up strength, like that monkey watching the clash of two predators.


          I agree with you very much! and the last revolution, to put it mildly, didn’t particularly positively affect the progressive potential of Russia, throwing us back about 15-20 years so in development compared to the dance of the tagged USSR))
          ! Yes, China knows how to wait in the wings and seems to have already waited! this sleeping dragon will slowly wake up gaining strength and when the enta, an unprecedented hitherto animal, finally stands on its clawed legs and flaps its wings, then everyone will have a hard time! in just 20 years after the collapse of the USSR and such an impressive leap forward in all directions it will be esho)
      3. Manager
        Manager 22 August 2013 16: 08 New
        +4
        Quote: Apologet.Ru
        And I bet on Russia!

        While Russia is only trading in resources, you can forget about the breakthrough.
        1. Avenger711
          Avenger711 22 August 2013 16: 37 New
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          And what should Russia trade with? Phones? Only a country selling critical goods and weapons can solve something in the world. And manufacturers of wine, coffee, carpets, furniture, electronic toys can always be tough.
          1. ATATA
            ATATA 22 August 2013 16: 55 New
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            Quote: Avenger711
            And what should Russia trade with? Phones? Only a country selling critical goods and weapons can solve something in the world. And manufacturers of wine, coffee, carpets, furniture, electronic toys can always be tough.

            I don’t understand at all ?!
            You are a healthy person.
            How did you find yourself in such disadvantages?
            ps And I agree to compare Russia with commodity countries, this is the height of ignorance.
            Unlike all these commodity countries, we if we break the ass on the fascist cross for our resources WHO IS PLEASANT ON THE PLANET EARTH.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 22 August 2013 16: 58 New
              +7
              Quote: ATATA
              How did you find yourself in such disadvantages?

              He drove into the VAF, considered himself a great specialist in aviation. Result on face (s) uniform hi
              1. ATATA
                ATATA 22 August 2013 17: 10 New
                +4
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                He drove into the VAF, considered himself a great specialist in aviation. Result on face (s) uniform

                hi
                Looks hot. laughing
                But not a fool.
                Get out.
              2. Tatarus
                Tatarus 22 August 2013 18: 27 New
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                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                VAF ran into


                And what is the WAF here, King and God? For VAF, on the contrary, the opponent’s skulls should be a disgrace. Well, that’s if he is a man and has honor ... If not, let him drive me into the skull (Everyone will understand who is who), but if there is honor, then let him refute. Polite and CORRECT. And then divorced I look decisive. Sorry to all of us after each comment. This is me about my temper sometimes
                1. smile
                  smile 22 August 2013 18: 55 New
                  +5
                  Tatarus
                  Well, the VAF didn’t set skulls for him. My position often coincides with the position of Avenger, but he talked too much with Waf ... let it be - unrestrained. Well, someone appreciated .... although the presence of skulls in the avanger personally surprises me .. the guy is not stupid.
                2. Corsair
                  Corsair 23 August 2013 02: 34 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Tatarus
                  And then divorced I look decisive. Sorry to all of us after each comment.


                  And some particularly impressionable natures" lol , already almost require permission from them to quote and comment on their posts fellow
        2. ATATA
          ATATA 22 August 2013 16: 41 New
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          Quote: Manager
          While Russia is only trading in resources, you can forget about the breakthrough

          So it has been since the time of King Peas.
          Do you know why we ended up in Siberia?
          We went there for fur to sell it to Europe.
          All are trading something.
          Here England trades in financial services, Koreans electronics, but it will not last forever.
          All these countries are on the same needle of their narrow niches and they are experiencing the same because of this.
          The need for the future in oil will disappear, another valuable resource will appear and, believe Russia, it will again be in excess.
          And the most valuable resource of Russia is our brains! This is what must be protected.
          Therefore, do not worry so much.
          The dog barks and the caravan moves on. yes
          1. lecturer
            lecturer 22 August 2013 17: 35 New
            +6
            And the most valuable resource of Russia is our brains! This is what must be protected.

            Correctly! In addition, I ask more attention to the development of our defense industry! After all, such factors as brains, technologies are involved (develop), new factory shops, factories, hands of craftsmen, salaries appear, ..... that which will be difficult to stop.
        3. smile
          smile 22 August 2013 18: 50 New
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          Manager
          Resources are traded by all, without exception, who have such an opportunity. including the USA. Moreover, everyone is making tremendous efforts to capture new markets and increase sales of resources.
    2. SPACE
      SPACE 22 August 2013 17: 30 New
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      Quote: serge-68-68
      I guess the United States has 30 years

      laughing In 10 years, they will write off half of their combat potential ...
      10 years is the limit, no, even 5 years and they will be like England, a second-rate country. Their fate is already predetermined, today all their actions are nothing but cramps of snake in a pan. In vain they rejoiced at the collapse of the USSR, Achilles was predicted that he would soon follow Hector. The USSR / USA were different sides of the same coin, destroying one side, the whole system is being destroyed, so everything is natural and they are not able to change the future ...
    3. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 22 August 2013 18: 37 New
      +1
      The fact that the end of the American century is approaching is good of course, only before their funerals the United States apparently decided to destroy the whole world, to take everyone to hell with them.
    4. 53-Sciborskiy
      53-Sciborskiy 22 August 2013 18: 57 New
      +4
      Nineties: America Wedges. Two thousandths: America Raging. What awaits America in the new decade? America will turn into Obama's barracks.
      1. Yura
        Yura 22 August 2013 21: 25 New
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        Quote: 53-Sciborskiy
        What awaits America in the new decade? America will turn into Obama's barracks.

        Or it will turn into a place where it is dark as ................. lol
    5. Civil
      Civil 22 August 2013 20: 09 New
      +1
      Well, who is immortal, ready to live his whole life in poverty for the sake of the future of the future? What are you crazy?
    6. Siberian German
      Siberian German 22 August 2013 21: 13 New
      +1
      I agree - we will be realistic this will happen but not soon - maybe the USA + Canada + Mexico will transform into some kind of new state entity who knows
  2. a52333
    a52333 22 August 2013 15: 33 New
    +5
    So, about nothing:
    In 2008, a new crisis erupted. And it was impossible to solve the problem by moving production to countries with lower wages (especially China).
    Industry was not there in 1998.
    In the 2009 – 2013 years, the United States managed to gain time. This was done through financial policies, new methods of energy production.
    This is generally strong! Article -
  3. andrei332809
    andrei332809 22 August 2013 15: 34 New
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    Quote: serge-68-68
    The United States will also leave

    but the corpse will decompose for a very long time. And for a long time it will poison everything around
  4. Vtel
    Vtel 22 August 2013 15: 40 New
    +4
    "The end of the American century?"


    The dragon is dead. Long live the dragon! The world government, because it is global, is not tied to any particular country, such as the United States, they are like cockroaches everywhere and nowhere, go and say it. Hydromassons scattered like misty chaos around the world and you won’t take them with dust.
    1. Oskar
      Oskar 22 August 2013 16: 18 New
      +6
      Masons also came up with capitalism as a system in which they will rule undividedly. The power of capital, and the capital of the Jewish bankers. They tried for themselves. And back in 1991 we got into this hopeless rubbish. Now we’d be in the USSR, but chuckled.
      The USA will leave - others will come. Big business is international and cosmopolitan.
    2. a52333
      a52333 22 August 2013 16: 59 New
      +4
      A world government, because it’s also a world government, is not tied to any particular country, such as the United States
      If they are left without cover in the form of a US army, they will tear them right away. In line lined up.
      1. annenkov242
        annenkov242 22 August 2013 18: 50 New
        0
        usa, there was a world club, in the hands of orthodoxy. Now the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are in a tense state, even being at the top of the world government. And now it all depends on our GDP, it’s beautiful and quick to use the strained relations between these groups of Freemasons, the benefit of strengthening the economy and army of our country.
  5. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 22 August 2013 15: 46 New
    +9
    It is clear that China will take the palm of the USA, what leader will it be? Will it fight for freedom and democracy around the world? After all, the vacuum that is created after the departure of some forces should be filled by other forces, will it be China itself or will it be limited by status first among equals? Now, for example, the world so-called “human rights activists” have already bitten their dirty tongue in many respects when it comes to China, it’s much easier to kick Russia, which for some reason pays attention to all this and engages in a skirmish with the liberals, while the Chinese are still or not they pay attention in general, or unsubscribe by a standard boring nomenclature unsubscribe, but most likely Gorbachev will die by this time, and it would be interesting to hear his comment on the "insolvency of socialism."
    1. saruman
      saruman 22 August 2013 16: 50 New
      11
      Quote: Standard Oil
      It is clear that China will take the palm of the USA, what kind of leader will it be? Will it fight for freedom and democracy around the world?

      China will never become a global player such as the United States or the USSR. China has never had, never will and will not have a global project. China has nothing to offer the world except manufactured goods and its migrants. Therefore, China, at the peak of its power, will continue to be a middle "empire" focused on its internal problems.
      1. solomon
        solomon 22 August 2013 17: 36 New
        +3
        Offering their migrants, who will eventually become local, and the area will become Chinese.
        Have you thought about it?
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 22 August 2013 17: 47 New
          +5
          Quote: solomon
          Offering their migrants, who will eventually become local, and the area will become Chinese.
          Have you thought about it?

          Oh oh oh....
          Do not read European newspapers.
    2. smile
      smile 22 August 2013 18: 59 New
      +4
      Standard Oil
      Chinese socialism has such a Chinese cut of eyes that it ceased to be socialism .... or rather, it never was. So. some external attributes remained ...
  6. Grenader
    Grenader 22 August 2013 16: 02 New
    +8
    In a word, it is necessary to regulate the economy in order to avoid interest on rent and profit from the economy of production and services. This is the true definition of a free market economy in the classical tradition, and often a high level of regulation is necessary to achieve it.
    The United States continued to increase its industrial power beyond the wall of high duties, rejecting Britain’s demands for a free trade policy.
    Here is the key to boosting industrial growth. What are we doing? We climbed into the WTO and have no influence on the development of our own production.
  7. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 22 August 2013 16: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: andrei332809
    Quote: serge-68-68
    The United States will also leave

    but the corpse will decompose for a very long time. And for a long time it will poison everything around

    Yes, Putin recalled here, the Roman Empire was decomposing for 500 years.
    Quote: serge-68-68
    And what will European civilization take? I bet on China. In 50 years.

    I won’t bet on them, but apparently there’s nowhere to go. We will have to try to stay closer to the first, otherwise I think they will chew (now they don’t disdain). This is me in a soft form.
    1. Oskar
      Oskar 22 August 2013 16: 40 New
      +5
      500 years is an extremely wrong figure. He recorded the entire period of the existence of the Roman Empire in decay. Something about any state can be "pushed." Although He is excusable, in His Seven Years' War (1756-1763) Peter I was present in the army. What can I say ...
  8. starhina01
    starhina01 22 August 2013 16: 18 New
    +7
    DO NOT FOLLOW THE ENEMIES ON OUR LAND DO NOT STRAKE THEIR HORSES THE RUSSIAN LAND DO NOT DARK THEIR SUN OUR RED CENTURY COSTS RUSSIA DOES NOT WAVE AND THE CENTURY SIMPLIES NOT TO STILL yes from the well-known cartoon
  9. Alexey M
    Alexey M 22 August 2013 16: 30 New
    +3
    We rejoice early. Amer will betray us more than once. And even if the amers leave, whoever China will come to their place, or maybe Islam. It’s not advisable to either of us and the throne is not enough to occupy the throne ourselves. Here you will think that it’s better to rot the West or what it’s not known. By the way, it’s still not known how the world’s domination of the Chinese will turn their heads, and where they will climb. I strongly doubt that they will leave Russia alone.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 22 August 2013 17: 05 New
      +6
      Quote: Alexey M
      By the way, it is not known how the world’s domination of the Chinese will turn their heads, and where they will climb. I strongly doubt that they will leave Russia alone.

      When will you understand that in the modern world, the large population of China, this is not an advantage, but their misfortune.
      Calm down already!
      In the presence of political will in the leadership, Russia has every opportunity to arrange a total genocide of the Chinese population.
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 22 August 2013 19: 16 New
        +6
        Quote: ATATA
        When will you understand that in the modern world, the large population of China, this is not an advantage, but their misfortune.
        Calm down already!
        In the presence of political will in the leadership, Russia has every opportunity to arrange a total genocide of the Chinese population.

        In China, a lot of problems with the aging of the population, with its feeding and employment.
        To fight Russia with China is tantamount to mass suicide, most of their population is concentrated on a relatively small territory along the coast, in the south and east of the sea, in the west and north, impassable sparsely populated mountains and deserts.
        1. Poppy
          Poppy 23 August 2013 12: 36 New
          +2
          exactly so: China enters the population depopulation, i.e. it will decrease - these are consequences of the birth control policy, and besides, they have a great demographic bias - there are more men than women
          aging populations and Little King syndrome, when an only child is spoiled - very worrying trends for China
  10. Oskar
    Oskar 22 August 2013 16: 30 New
    12
    The USA, as a predatory plant, can grow only on the corpses of defeated opponents. It's time to stop fertilizing them - you can’t surrender Syria and others!
    1. Troy
      Troy 22 August 2013 16: 50 New
      11
      Quote: Oskar
      The USA, as a predatory plant, can grow only on the corpses of defeated opponents. It's time to stop fertilizing them - you can’t surrender Syria and others!

      A nation of parasites living off the grief of others.
  11. Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 22 August 2013 16: 58 New
    +4
    The article is superficial. The U.S. take-off took place on the ruins of Europe and Asia after the 2 World War, when finances, industry and infrastructure were destroyed. One Marshall plan is worth it.
  12. denson06
    denson06 22 August 2013 17: 02 New
    +4
    Quote: ATATA
    Quote: Manager
    While Russia is only trading in resources, you can forget about the breakthrough

    So it has been since the time of King Peas.
    Do you know why we ended up in Siberia?
    We went there for fur to sell it to Europe.
    All are trading something.
    Here England trades in financial services, Koreans electronics, but it will not last forever.
    All these countries are on the same needle of their narrow niches and they are experiencing the same because of this.
    The need for the future in oil will disappear, another valuable resource will appear and, believe Russia, it will again be in excess.
    And the most valuable resource of Russia is our brains! This is what must be protected.
    Therefore, do not worry so much.
    The dog barks and the caravan moves on. yes

    Optimistic ... support ..) Russia among its people .. and this is the most valuable and most important resource ..
  13. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 22 August 2013 17: 08 New
    -1
    In the current state of the raw materials appendage, of course, we can do little. But this is not a reason to bet on China or someone else there. We need to deal with our country and bring it to serious international players. And do not just indulge in the Snowden.
    As for the corpse of the United States, you don’t need to leave it unowned! Hand out everything to the old owners! Mexico its territory occupied by the United States. Nam Alaska with Hawaii. To the French, to Louisiana. The rest is Iroquois. And then no stench will poison the air! soldier
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 22 August 2013 17: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: Sergey Medvedev
      In the current state of the raw materials appendage, of course, we can do little.

      As for the raw materials appendage, it’s you who got excited.
      Repeat the myths of our enemies, envious.
      You can’t live without oil today, but you can live without a TV.
      But there is another indicator, we are the 2nd in the arms trade on this planet, and this in the modern world is also an essential item.
      So Do not worry be happy.
      1. Poppy
        Poppy 23 August 2013 12: 38 New
        +1
        with an oil price of less than $ 100 Russia is a raw materials appendage of the West
        and at a price higher than $ 100, the west is a commodity-producing appendage of Russia
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 23 August 2013 18: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Sergey Medvedev
      In the current state of the raw materials appendage, of course, we can do little. But this is not a reason to bet on China or someone else there. We need to deal with our country and bring it to serious international players. And do not just indulge in Snowden

      What other appendage? It is necessary to see who is whose appendage.
      Russia spends about half of the extracted energy at home, and sells surplus over the hill.
      I believe that this is not worth doing, it’s better to use all the energy resources at home, and to sell electricity and oil products over the hill, but, alas, I am not the president.
      But you can’t give Snowden, you’ll give one, the others will not run to us, nothing, but it will be unpleasant.
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    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 August 2013 17: 45 New
      0
      Quote: vitas
      to this topic

      Yes, in what topic, you laid out the complete bullshit glued. When Putin answered so, how do you tell me?
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        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 22 August 2013 18: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: vitas
          what did you say who the bullshit?

          Are you sober at all?
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 22 August 2013 18: 16 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Are you sober at all?

            They climbed out today to rain fool ? I still have a lot to do. request
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            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 22 August 2013 18: 20 New
              +1
              Quote: vitas
              I'm drunk as never before

              Clearly, you are an alcoholic, there are no more questions.
              1. vitas
                vitas 22 August 2013 18: 23 New
                -1
                how hard it is with you
        2. Hleb
          Hleb 22 August 2013 19: 07 New
          +3
          he didn’t mean “who”, but “what kind of bullshit did you post.” By the way, what did you post then? probably something like
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 23 August 2013 02: 48 New
            +1
            Quote: Gleb
            he didn’t mean “who”, but “what kind of bullshit did you post.” By the way, what did you post then? probably something like

            Yours is not FUFFLO lol , this masterpiece will be abruptly Black Square good
      3. Corsair
        Corsair 23 August 2013 02: 40 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov (1) Yesterday, 17: 45 ↑
        Quote: vitas
        to this topic
        Yes, in what topic, you laid out the complete bullshit glued. When Putin answered so, how do you tell me?

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        The comment was deleted.


        What here IT WAS? what
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  16. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 22 August 2013 17: 59 New
    +1
    end end ....
  17. Tatanka Yotanka
    Tatanka Yotanka 22 August 2013 18: 12 New
    +4
    And Russia has a base for a breakthrough.
    yeah, but I didn’t notice, the rest of this base will now be handed out in the second privatization circle, have the companies nationalized, revived schools, specialists have nowhere to go, fields are sprouting, the draft law is lurking about the minimum kilowatts per capita - from the category of kayuk to energy, which power station a new one was introduced, maybe the base is there and there is no jerk, Putin is an adherent of the liberal-economic model, he doesn’t hide it, so far we are stubbornly following the tracks of the same states, although it’s not so noticeable, and there are brains they are west into the silicon valley, because the official cannot allow a competent engineer to receive more of it
  18. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 22 August 2013 18: 22 New
    +3
    A holy place is never empty...
    So whose century will replace the American ??
    Russian? I would like, very, very, but ...
    To do this, much needs to be changed in the country. Both the economic model and the dominant one. And something to decide with the demography and poverty of the common people.
    And industry and personnel. And the efficient use of natural resources. And science and technology. I'm not talking about theft ...
    What do you think, how long will it take, a year, ten, centuries ??
    That's it ...
    I bet on China so far. Because I do not want to dissemble.
  19. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 22 August 2013 19: 02 New
    +5
    Thus, due to the high cost of labor, the industrial sectors in the north of the country had to continually improve, using the most efficient production methods. The United States also adhered to a coherent development program based on the support of new industries through duties.

    The invention of an incompetent dreamer.
    Until the mid-20th century, there was no development program, high labor costs, and efficient production methods in the states. The Naglosaks inherited a continent with untouched easily recoverable mineral reserves and fertile lands in a blessed climate.
    On the continent, they did not have strong hostile neighbors and could neglect defense spending.
    In addition, wars and revolutions in Europe in the early and mid-19th centuries favored the influx of emigrants with education and work experience in agriculture and industry.
    XX century passed under the sign of US hegemony. The rivalry with the USSR complicated it almost 40 years. The collapse of the enemy in the Cold War was a gift for the United States. The economy received a powerful impetus, as it seemed, finally having overcome the consequences of the crisis of the 1970s.

    At the beginning of the 20th century, the United States was a second-rate country that did not have a combat-ready army and navy, an unstable economy, prone to crises, and could not even dream of any hegemony, except in the western hemisphere.
    The rivalry with the USSR allowed the Yankees to saddle Western Europe and milk it still. The Yankees economy received a powerful impetus. And the "collapse of the enemy in the Cold War" was an unpleasant surprise for the Yankees and the beginning of a severe crisis.
  20. Siberian
    Siberian 22 August 2013 21: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexey M
    We rejoice early. Amer will betray us more than once. And even if the amers leave, whoever China will come in their place, or maybe Islam. We don’t want either of them and the throne itself isn’t enough to take the throne. it’s not known. By the way, it’s still not known how the world’s domination of the Chinese will turn their heads, and where they will climb.I strongly doubt that they will leave Russia alone.

    Russia for them is like a bone in the throat, and now China, and even Islamic states, and even India. Well, I do not like it when not in theirs. They really just won’t calm down. But still, there is a time of dawn, then sunset. Something like that.
  21. Siberian
    Siberian 22 August 2013 21: 20 New
    0
    Quote: ATATA
    In the presence of political will in the leadership, Russia has every opportunity to arrange a total genocide of the Chinese population.
    How to arrange genocide? In addition to a nuclear strike. (If anything, seriously ask). They did the Japanese genocide. Native Mao, if not mistaken, more than 30 million. genocide. How are we?
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 22 August 2013 21: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: Siberian
      How to arrange genocide? In addition to the nuclear strike. (If anything, I ask earnestly).

      Targeted cascades of dams on the Yangtze River, large infrastructure facilities, ports, industrial enterprises and power plants.
      As a result of the impact on the dams into the Pacific Ocean, approximately 100 Chinese will be washed away within a few hours. The rest will begin to die of hunger, disease, lack of food and medicine.
      Further, as a result of the domino effect, everything will be even worse.
      The Chinese are not suicides.
      Despite the terrible scarecrows about the PLA, the air superiority in Russia is total and gaps in China are not visible.
      But there is another scenario where we are simply defending ourselves. And there, too, China does not shine.
      If you are interested in detail, look for an adventurer.
  22. Siberian
    Siberian 22 August 2013 21: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: ATATA
    Quote: Siberian
    How to arrange genocide? In addition to the nuclear strike. (If anything, I ask earnestly).

    Targeted cascades of dams on the Yangtze River, large infrastructure facilities, ports, industrial enterprises and power plants.
    As a result of the impact on the dams into the Pacific Ocean, approximately 100 Chinese will be washed away within a few hours. The rest will begin to die of hunger, disease, lack of food and medicine.
    Further, as a result of the domino effect, everything will be even worse.
    The Chinese are not suicides.
    Despite the terrible scarecrows about the PLA, the air superiority in Russia is total and gaps in China are not visible.

    Quote: ATATA
    Quote: Siberian
    How to arrange genocide? In addition to the nuclear strike. (If anything, I ask earnestly).

    Targeted cascades of dams on the Yangtze River, large infrastructure facilities, ports, industrial enterprises and power plants.
    As a result of the impact on the dams into the Pacific Ocean, approximately 100 Chinese will be washed away within a few hours. The rest will begin to die of hunger, disease, lack of food and medicine.
    Further, as a result of the domino effect, everything will be even worse.
    The Chinese are not suicides.
    Despite the terrible scarecrows about the PLA, the air superiority in Russia is total and gaps in China are not visible.
    Well, that is absolutely true. They have other places to slam with big losses. And the outgoing billion people. Where will it flood if only they themselves are demoralized and fall to their knees. And to be honest it’s scary to destroy an entire nation. Probably capable of it only Amera is soulless to go. PS Although there are others.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 22 August 2013 21: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: Siberian
      And to be honest it’s scary to destroy an entire nation. Only Amera are probably capable of soullessly walking on this. PS Although there are others.

      Well, what to do if war. Here either we or us. hi
      And the remaining billion will not flood. Transport infrastructure will be in ruins. This billion will be convulsively and decentrally saved from hunger and disease.
  23. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 22 August 2013 21: 43 New
    +3
    "humanity will be reborn through Russia."

    I decided this for myself and I don’t bother with my head. now only: "do what you must, and be what happens"
  24. Siberian
    Siberian 22 August 2013 21: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: ATATA
    Quote: Siberian
    And to be honest it’s scary to destroy an entire nation. Only Amera are probably capable of soullessly walking on this. PS Although there are others.

    Well, what to do if war. Here either we or us. hi
    And the remaining billion will not flood. Transport infrastructure will be in ruins. This billion will be convulsively and decentrally saved from hunger and disease.
    Well, if war, then war, then the conversation is different hi In World War II, how many of ours were exterminated (Soviet people). What about everyone? As it should be.
  25. Alexey M
    Alexey M 22 August 2013 22: 12 New
    -1
    Quote: Corsair5912
    Quote: ATATA
    When will you understand that in the modern world, the large population of China, this is not an advantage, but their misfortune.
    Calm down already!
    In the presence of political will in the leadership, Russia has every opportunity to arrange a total genocide of the Chinese population.

    In China, a lot of problems with the aging of the population, with its feeding and employment.
    To fight Russia with China is tantamount to mass suicide, most of their population is concentrated on a relatively small territory along the coast, in the south and east of the sea, in the west and north, impassable sparsely populated mountains and deserts.


    That's precisely what China has a lot of population and a loss of 5-6 million will even be for the good, which we can’t afford. A ratio of 1 to 10 in terms of population is a huge mobilization reserve without separating highly professional personnel from production. And the fact that it is densely populated it doesn’t matter, no one will let YaOMP apply. Therefore, we will strike at our territory, burning out occupants.
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 23 August 2013 07: 31 New
      0
      What a deep thought: to get rid of lice, chop off your head, something has already been said in this vein, such as the best cure for a headache-guillotine!
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 23 August 2013 18: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexey M
      That's precisely what China has a lot of population and a loss of 5-6 million will even be for the good, which we can’t afford. A ratio of 1 to 10 in terms of population is a huge mobilization reserve without separating highly professional personnel from production. And the fact that it is densely populated it doesn’t matter, no one will let YaOMP apply. Therefore, we will strike at our territory, burning out occupants

      You, Alexei, how do you imagine a war for yourself: - as in the 13th century, a crowd is a crowd and who has a larger crowd has won?
      Who, interestingly, can prevent a nuclear strike from striking industrial areas and transport hubs? Lord god or what? Or a homosexual tolerant "world community" that doesn’t even control its ass?
      What is the use of a large mobility reserve without modern weapons, without the support of armored vehicles, artillery, aviation?
      In order to get involved in a battle, infantry must first come into contact with the enemy, that is, in this particular case, it must be thrown hundreds of kilometers across the mountains and deserts. To transfer 1 infantry division with heavy weapons, at least 25-30 railroads are needed echelons, but to supply it with food, ammunition, spare parts and replenishment, you need as much transport.
      In China, there is no way to quickly transfer large volumes of goods to the north and west, even in peacetime, without interference, and who will allow them to do this if the war starts?
      Whom will they conquer? Permafrost in Yakutia and Magadan? So that in the first winter there to rest from hunger and cold.
      1. Alexey M
        Alexey M 25 August 2013 15: 50 New
        0
        Have you looked at the map? We are bordering China. And you don’t need to capture anything, they will survive the Transib and Russia still has no Far East.
  26. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 23 August 2013 07: 28 New
    0
    And I put on the minds of peoples, not the ruling elites. But this article reminds me of one of the jokes about Hajj Nasreddin: how he taught to order the donkey to read a donkey! "or the donkey will die," or the padishah will die, "or I won’t survive! So there’s no liability!"