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Armored vehicle "Tiger-M2"

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At the opening of the Innovation Day of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the first exhibition 20 of August 2013 in Moscow in August, among other things, the Tiger-MXXN armored vehicle, a famous version of the Tiger-based armored vehicle, was demonstrated. .


The presented Tiger-M2 model is equipped with a new remotely controlled turret (combat module) with a 7,62-mm PKTM machine gun. The combat module was developed jointly by Kovrov Electromechanical Plant OJSC (KEMZ) and LLC "Weapons workshops "(Schelkovo, Moscow region). At the exhibition, both of these developers presented data not only about their own combat module (which can also be equipped with a 12,7 mm Kord machine gun or a 40 mm Balkan automatic grenade launcher), but and about the famous HITROLE Light combat module of the Italian company Oto Melara, which, apparently, is also being promoted by them to the Russian power structures.It should be noted that in the Italian army some of the lightweight armored vehicles Iveco LMV are equipped with HITROLE Light modules.


The Tigr-М2 armored car, equipped with a new remote-controlled turret developed by Kovrov Electromechanical Plant OJSC (KEMZ) and Arms workshops, was displayed at the Innovation Day exhibition of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

Armored vehicle "Tiger-M2"

Combat modules offered by Kovrov Electromechanical Plant OJSC (KEMZ) and Weapons Workshops LLC. A poster from the exposition of the exhibition "Innovation Day of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation."
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  1. svp67
    svp67 21 August 2013 10: 52
    +8
    And besides the "module", what's new on this machine?
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 21 August 2013 11: 00
      29
      By the way a little off topic but also decent news. Excuse me generously.
      Probably everyone read, but there wasn’t any news on VO.

      The first tests of the ekranoplane produced by LLC EO Orion, designed to confirm the design characteristics in practice, were held in Petrozavodsk.

      Wing "Orion" can accelerate to 130 kilometers per hour, then fly a hundred meters into the sky and accelerate to 300 kilometers. At the same time, three tons of cargo and 20 passengers will be taken on board.

      WIG can operate on a variety of routes, including those that are not available for ordinary ships. They are indispensable for working in hard-to-reach areas, for rescuers and tourists.

      taken from "made with us" why I am adding this news because I want to show that the country is being revived and we need to support it a little :)

      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 21 August 2013 11: 08
        +4
        Doesn't fly yet. But the news is really good, for us, reducing the cost of transportation in the North is vital. The airships also finally started to do.
      2. Apollo
        Apollo 21 August 2013 14: 23
        +3
        Quote: klimpopov
        By the way a little off topic but also decent news. Excuse me generously.
        Probably everyone read, but there wasn’t any news on VO.


        good news + video
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 21 August 2013 12: 47
      +2
      Most likely nothing. But the module is also good.
    3. Civil
      Civil 21 August 2013 16: 06
      +1
      even simple tigers did not get in the army, but with the modules, quickly!
      1. TUNISIA
        TUNISIA 21 August 2013 19: 54
        +5
        The fact is that the Tigers go for the most part to the Ministry of Internal Affairs (SOBR, OMON, SN VV). There are really few of them in the army, but they are. We did not have a Tiger in Chechnya 3 years ago, but we did have a KAMAZ-made "Shot" armored personnel carrier. A wonderful thing. It is, of course, larger than the Tiger, but I want to say that these machines are not in single copies and are being put into service.
      2. sak1969
        sak1969 21 August 2013 22: 06
        +1
        "Tiger-M2" machine is not small anyway, and why the heck is such a high combat module of production (KEMZ) and OOO "Weapon Workshops", damn it. You can't fit into more than one gateway with such a tower, and on the road you will find a tree with a thick branch, you will cut the module ... fool
        1. ksandr45
          ksandr45 22 August 2013 08: 35
          0
          Another thing bothers me. From the right on the module, as I understand it, the box with the BC, and what to do when it ends in it? Judging by the design there, not only the belt will have to get out to replace it.
        2. Mista_dj
          Mista_dj 22 August 2013 22: 14
          +1
          I fully support!
          The first thing that occurred to me was seeing the picture.
          Of course, you can put a saddle on a cow, but here, obviously, the guys forgot why the Tigers need warriors.
          What kind of mobility are we talking about at this height?
          He will not drop by my mother-in-law, into the village: at the entrance, there is a barrier from a channel.
          And only with a tank will you move that barrier, or call the sappers.

          PS: It remains only to hang anti-torpedo boules on the sides, then he’ll get the hell out of the width.
    4. Matio
      Matio 21 August 2013 19: 57
      0
      CAT engine again.
  2. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 21 August 2013 10: 53
    +1
    These machines must be replaced commander UAZ.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 21 August 2013 11: 01
      +5
      about the armored car Tiger M


      quote-At the exhibition, both of these developers presented data not only about this own combat module (which can also be equipped with a 12,7-mm Kord machine gun
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 21 August 2013 11: 03
      11
      Quote: Dmitry 2246
      These machines must be replaced commander UAZ.


      Dmitry did you see the Tiger in kind? If you put two more UAZs, then this will be the Tiger. I’m joking of course, but this is not a commander’s car. Mini Bather soon
      1. Dmitry 2246
        Dmitry 2246 21 August 2013 11: 08
        +6
        I saw the UAZ.
      2. Apollo
        Apollo 21 August 2013 11: 37
        +9
        Quote: Vadivak
        Dmitry did you see the Tiger in kind? If you put two more UAZs, then this will be the Tiger. I’m joking of course, but this is not a commander’s car. Mini Bather soon



        Tiger after tuning.

        Good afternoon Vadim hi
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 21 August 2013 12: 33
          +3
          Quote: Apollon
          Good afternoon Vadim


          Hey. Good video.
        2. volkodav
          volkodav 22 August 2013 08: 57
          0
          Familiar places of the Altai Republic laughing
      3. eplewke
        eplewke 21 August 2013 11: 42
        +1
        They put a tiger next to Humvee. The tiger looks more solid. In general, the car is certainly good. The main Ivek engine was removed from there! Kovrovtsy did better.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 21 August 2013 12: 48
          -2
          That is why the car has a hump?
          1. eplewke
            eplewke 21 August 2013 16: 17
            +3
            it's an air intake, not a hump!
        2. ivshubarin
          ivshubarin 21 August 2013 15: 34
          +3
          The IVECO engine was not there, CAMMINS stood
          1. eplewke
            eplewke 21 August 2013 16: 23
            +1
            Cummins B205 engines and on the Italian armored vehicles Iveco set. And yes, the American company.
        3. eplewke
          eplewke 21 August 2013 16: 29
          +2
          In general, anyway, the pathos car turned out. You will see on the road - you will turn your neck ...
        4. APASUS
          APASUS 21 August 2013 20: 21
          0
          Quote: eplewke
          They put a tiger next to Humvee. The tiger looks more solid.

          I think not only for solid
      4. datur
        datur 21 August 2013 23: 08
        0
        [quote = Vadivak] [quote = Dmitry 2246] Such vehicles should be replaced by commander's UAZs. [/ quote]

        Dmitry did you see the Tiger in kind? If you put two more UAZs, then this will be the Tiger. I’m joking of course, but it’s not a commander’s car. Mini Bather rather ---
        SO there is, they did it on the basis of BRDM !!!! wink yes
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 21 August 2013 11: 03
      +7
      What for? The resource of such a machine is scanty, in comparison with the UAZ (BTR-80 bridges), the cost of operation is many times greater, the purchase cost, too. Do not pull. Yes, and why? Do we have a guerrilla war in the country? It is enough to equip them with reconnaissance units, units in the North Caucasus, as well as other light brigades that are now in the Hussars, for example.
      1. Dmitry 2246
        Dmitry 2246 21 August 2013 11: 19
        +4
        And UAZ is more expensive than a horse.
        Sometimes it is necessary for "their" ammunition to be thrown, to capture a wounded man, but you never know what and without armor.
        And losses without a commander are usually higher (this is if you fight).
        A guard, exit - a separate song.
        A module with FCT is a very necessary means of fire amplification, although there is really a problem with a machine gun for women and shops.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 21 August 2013 12: 49
          +2
          Quote: Dmitry 2246
          And UAZ is more expensive than a horse.


          Yah?

          For the Kuban, there will be no request for less than 100 tyrov for a short-term employee, this time. Commander horse trained teams plus another 100 tyrov. And if this is a purebred type of Arab, Englishman or gasp, then only in bucks.
          Keeping a horse is not UAZ content, feed, training and a trainer, veterinary medicine, generally keeping a soldier.
    4. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 21 August 2013 11: 13
      +2
      To replace UAZ, Scorpio-LSHA Protection Corporation is finalizing
    5. Zlodeey
      Zlodeey 21 August 2013 12: 16
      +4
      Quote: Dmitry 2246
      These machines must be replaced commander UAZ.

      It will be more advisable to scorpion.
  3. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 21 August 2013 10: 54
    0
    "... but also about the well-known combat module HITROLE Light of the Italian company Oto Melara, which, apparently, is also being promoted by them to the Russian security forces. It should be noted that in the Italian army, some of the light armored vehicles Iveco LMV are equipped with HITROLE Light modules." - we have heard about Iveco cars, especially about the Lynx, which Serdyukov bought - all the equipment purchased from the Italians did not stand the tests in Russian conditions, so you need to be wary of foreign technology, incl. and to the combat module HITROLE Light of the Italian company Oto Melara. It is better, more correct, more practical and cheaper to buy Russian-made weapons.
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 21 August 2013 11: 24
      +4
      IVECO-LMV for Russia came with two hinges on the doors, to NATO with three. In an explosion, a blast wave tore off doors with two hinges and killed the crew. In short, they saved on the lives of Russian soldiers.
  4. asbaev
    asbaev 21 August 2013 10: 56
    -4
    And they don’t put modules on tanks, people are probably cheaper
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 21 August 2013 11: 07
      +5
      The tank has the main armament of the gun and coaxial machine gun - you can shoot from it while in the reserved space. The rest is not the main weapon. And yes, even in the USA, the modernized M1A2SEP2 do not have a remote turret, only John crawls out and shoots to his waist. And for them it was many times more relevant in Iraq.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 21 August 2013 14: 00
        +5
        Quote: donavi49
        The tank has the main armament of the gun and coaxial machine gun - you can shoot from it while in the reserved space. The rest is not the main weapon. And yes, even in the USA, the modernized M1A2SEP2 do not have a remote turret, only John crawls out and shoots to his waist. And for them it was many times more relevant in Iraq.


        But for some reason, when upgrading the T-72 ek, they refused to install remotely controlled machine guns of the T-90 type precisely because of the cost reduction.
        Perhaps the tankers collected a signature in favor of this? or snipers canceled? (sarcasm), it’s just that our modernizers continue to pump up people.
        1. datur
          datur 21 August 2013 23: 31
          +1
          Lelikas - it’s just that our modernizers continue to pump up people-- SO THIS ,, modernization ,,
          Managers led by Perdyukov ordered !!! so this is the consequence of reform stools !!!!
  5. Vincente
    Vincente 21 August 2013 11: 16
    +3
    Quote: Dmitry 2246
    These machines must be replaced commander UAZ.


    and intelligence, special forces, airborne soldier
  6. erased
    erased 21 August 2013 11: 28
    +2
    The module may be interesting. But the AGS-40 looks preferable to the ASG-17/30.
  7. Per se.
    Per se. 21 August 2013 11: 34
    11
    Somehow they forgot about the BRDM-2, which far from exhausted its capabilities in reconnaissance and combat security. "Tiger", "Lynx", purely land vehicles, repeating the ideas of the BTR-40, perhaps undeservedly forgotten for modernization in the Soviet Army, is now another extreme, already towards the floating BRDM-2, its modernization and further development for the army.
    1. mark1
      mark1 21 August 2013 12: 35
      +6
      I absolutely agree with you - the BRDM-2 is a car not deservedly forgotten, just like the GAZ 3937 "Vodnik" (I am sure that the PMZ could have been modified)
    2. volkodav
      volkodav 21 August 2013 12: 59
      -1
      Coffin on carts, why is it better than a tiger, and cheaper?
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 21 August 2013 13: 20
        +4
        Quote: volkodav
        WHAT IS IT BETTER TIGER AND CHEAPER?

        It is better because during reconnaissance it can overcome water obstacles and is capable of carrying more powerful and diverse weapons. Cheaper because it was possible to modernize already manufactured vehicles for the army, to produce new ones on an already mastered base. If you look for death, but foolishly, so any armored car will become a coffin, with any degree of protection, especially since there are no unsinkable cars.
      2. mark1
        mark1 21 August 2013 13: 57
        +4
        "Vodnik" -modularity of the structure, floats, was conceived as not expensive because it is massive. Disadvantages - weight limitation (respectively, to increase protection), more complex provision of PMZ. "Tiger" - the ability to build up protection, potentially the best PMZ, good for the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Disadvantages - not floating, relatively expensive. The best option is the presence of the troops in the ratio of 70 to 30, in the mountainous regions "Tiger" is probably preferable.
    3. Lone gunman
      Lone gunman 21 August 2013 17: 11
      +4
      Rogozin himself would not have bought one: -))) - "Serial production of the machine was organized in 1963" - now 2013 - for those who live in the meantime ...

      Combat reconnaissance vehicle (BRM) "Python"
      1. Max otto
        Max otto 21 August 2013 18: 15
        +1
        Ohhhh! And the engine in it from the motorcycle? Ali foot switch? The project is unrealistic, and the design is clean.
        1. Lone gunman
          Lone gunman 21 August 2013 19: 42
          +1
          maybe it’s also a design project so clean, but the whole idea of ​​the approach,
          here's a crab
          1. duke
            duke 21 August 2013 20: 12
            +2
            for Africa or the Arab countries, a cool little tank, a dozen of them will smash any gang in the bush to dust ...
      2. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 21 August 2013 18: 28
        -1
        And you dear, when will you stop playing with toys? When they put your python next to the "mess" - rolled-in, worked out and ready for mass production, so that the price would be consistent, so we will compare and talk about 2013. In the meantime, UAVs UAVs UAVs and pictures with cars
      3. duke
        duke 21 August 2013 20: 10
        +1
        Are you serious? What a design !!! it is hard to believe that 1963 ... a brilliant machine
      4. lelikas
        lelikas 21 August 2013 23: 39
        0
        Quote: Lone gunman
        Combat reconnaissance vehicle (BRM) "Python"

        -Milota :) resembles a cashier’s
    4. duke
      duke 21 August 2013 20: 07
      0
      on the brdm-2 it would be a full door, and not a hatch - it wouldn’t have a price - just imagine how a fighter in a bulletproof vest with a backpack would climb into that hatch or, on the contrary, would drop through it ... by the way, the Yugoslav version of this car was with a full door ...
  8. krpmlws
    krpmlws 21 August 2013 11: 38
    +2
    We’ll see))) We have a wonderland, they sent the KV-41 breakthrough tanks to the army in 1g, and some of them magically appeared to be guarding the headquarters of the mechanized corps and every self-respecting corps or commander went to the square. So a similar fate will probably be tiger, we will soon see the generals riding a powerful beast. But for the better, the command should have such machines.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 21 August 2013 21: 11
      +1
      Not only the corps - next to the headquarters in Izmailovo there was an underground garage for 200 tanks (then there was the Cherkizovsky market) and Voroshilov, Stalin had HF with interior trim.
      In Brezhnev’s time - Ladoga based on the T-80, now - VZTS based on the T-90.
  9. krpmlws
    krpmlws 21 August 2013 12: 01
    +3
    Quote: Per se.
    Somehow they forgot about the BRDM-2, which far from exhausted its capabilities in reconnaissance and combat security. "Tiger", "Lynx", purely land vehicles, repeating the ideas of the BTR-40, perhaps undeservedly forgotten for modernization in the Soviet Army, is now another extreme, already towards the floating BRDM-2, its modernization and further development for the army.

    I support, the tiger certainly has its own niche in the structure of the army, but forgetting about small, well-armored floating vehicles will be a serious miscalculation.
  10. Konsmo
    Konsmo 21 August 2013 12: 11
    -1
    Is this Italian at $ 1 million apiece? fellow
  11. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 21 August 2013 12: 24
    +1
    The right machine in its niche for its tasks. And then, damn it, we are delivering lunch to roadblocks on tanks. On this machine will come out cheaper. soldier
  12. Strashila
    Strashila 21 August 2013 12: 50
    +1
    And the result was a giraffe ... yes you put a simple unified tower from an armored personnel carrier, instead of the KPVT put Kord ... and you will be happy.
    1. volkodav
      volkodav 21 August 2013 13: 02
      0
      TOTALLY AGREE, but what will the crew do when it survives after the explosion, and the electronics are seams? need duplication of the control system on the mechanics
  13. ed1968
    ed1968 21 August 2013 13: 02
    +1
    truel is too bulky
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 21 August 2013 16: 18
      +2
      How much is he at the withers, about three meters?
  14. Vtel
    Vtel 21 August 2013 13: 43
    +1
    Nadot to make yak the Chinese, buy a couple of copies of Italian "spaghetti" and have some from there, if there is a good sho, or take along with the technology, and so just dough.
  15. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 21 August 2013 15: 37
    +2
    The remote module is good, but what about the rest? It seems like nothing.

    The development of armored vehicles in the Russian Federation is a little alarming - they are produced by almost everyone who is not lazy.
    Again, it came out of unification.

    Can the Moscow Region nevertheless systematize the issue of TTZ for certain tasks and goals?
    - For the Army: for specific tasks - vehicles with appropriate protection, weapons and amphibious assault positions according to the organizational staffing schedule of units.
    - For the Ministry of Internal Affairs, respectively - what they need to protect and other stray.

    Systematize by goals and objectives. Coordinate and unify the repair database. Establish serial production.

    After all, there is nothing complicated.
  16. runway
    runway 21 August 2013 16: 17
    +1
    Police car. At first, a machine gun for those dissatisfied with current life is quite enough. But you can install a grenade launcher ....
  17. ilf
    ilf 21 August 2013 17: 51
    +1
    Tiger enters special forces and reconnaissance units BB and also on its basis kshm
  18. waisson
    waisson 21 August 2013 20: 53
    0
    Without getting into replicas, I will say thanks to Ragozin, well done moves our defense industry forward, at least slowly but forward
  19. Paul
    Paul 22 August 2013 01: 12
    +1
    Quote: Vincente
    Quote: Dmitry 2246
    These machines must be replaced commander UAZ.


    and intelligence, special forces, airborne soldier

    I agree with the second part of the phrase smile but the first one isn’t, since in 99,9 cases the commander doesn’t need a Tiger-type machine in everyday life, the UAZ can cope with these tasks 100% and correct ergonomics soldier

    in general Tigers for military operations (exercises, field exits)
    UAZ for peacetime