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T-72B3 was declassified at the tank biathlon in Alabino

T-72B3 was declassified at the tank biathlon in Alabino

At the tank biathlon held in Alabino, as part of this event, a show of military equipment was held, which is in service with the Russian army. In addition to armored vehicles already known to the general public, the tank T-72B3 was openly demonstrated for the first time.

It should be noted that for some reason this premiere did not cause a stir among the visitors of the exhibition, everyone tried to take a picture of T-90А standing nearby. In principle, in fact, the outwardly modernized seventy-two warfare differed from the previously illuminated T-72B preliminary runs of the 1988 sample of the year only in that the Sosna-U multichannel sight was installed instead of the usual 1K-13-49 sight sight device. But since the windows of the sight were covered with a lid, not even all the tankers understood the difference. And she is.

This modern digital sight is equipped with a thermal imaging channel. Thanks to what the gunner-operator and commander tank in the “double” mode they are capable of effectively defeating various targets from a cannon and machine gun, and also launch guided missiles day and night, in any weather. By all characteristics, it is currently considered one of the best in the world. A similar sight, by the way, is on the latest T-90MS, as well as on a tank support combat vehicle (BMPT).

Another very important feature of this sight is that it is equipped with a target tracking machine. This allows the gunner operator to act on the principle of "shot-forgotten." It is necessary to find a goal, then automatics will work. And the fighter at this time can already be engaged in search of other purpose.

However, in contrast to the T-90MS, whose sight is covered with flaps opening from the crew seats, the crew members need to manually remove the protective cover from the updated T-72.

The 1А40 daytime sight, which was the main one on earlier versions of the Ural machines, was also revised and left as a backup (curiously, it is equipped with a laser-free protection). The machine has a wind sensor, the latest communications, improved weapon stabilizer and protection against weapons mass destruction. Also modified automatic loader guns for new ammunition and improved chassis, received tracked belts with a parallel hinge.

When T-72B3 was first seen in military units, many were puzzled that the right side of the tower, located next to the embrasure of the PKT machine gun, was not covered at all by dynamic protection. The old night sight was of an active-passive type, that is, under certain conditions, the illumination of an infrared illuminator was used, which was mounted just in the place where this “hole” appeared.

At the modernized machines presented in Alabino, this “hole” has already been eliminated, there are blocks of dynamic protection. Of course, all these half measures, the need to install on the Russian T-72, T-90 and T-80 type dynamic protection for the new generation Relikt, which can now be seen on Kazakhstani tank support vehicles, has long been overdue. But it should be understood that the T-72B3 is a budget upgrade, the designers of the machine were squeezed into the Procrustean bed of financial constraints of the previous leadership of the Ministry of Defense.

Therefore, instead of the 1000-strong engine B-92C2, which is installed on the T-90A and the previous version of the upgraded T-72BA, B-84-1 in 840 hp was left on this tank. And so the mobility characteristics have not increased.

According to the experience of the two Chechen wars and other military conflicts, tank practitioners and designers themselves have long suggested that closed machine gun installations (TPLs) should be installed on the updated T-72. But former officials also saved on them. And the current conflict in Syria shows that if Syrian tanks had ZPU, then many losses could have been avoided. Tankers would not need to get out from under the armor to the waist, which, you know, is fraught with fire.

Curiously, the Algerian army is upgrading its T-72 with the installation of such machine gun installations. The Algerians found money for a more advanced sight of the TKN-4 commander, and we still have a version of the old TKN-3 with very limited characteristics.

Of course, the Falcon Eye-type panoramic sight, which was already installed on the T-72 by the 61 BTRZ specialists and demonstrated at weapon shows, was very useful. Or the next version of the T-72B3 could be installed recently developed in Rostov tank assault and observation complex PNK-4C-02 with a thermal imaging channel and a laser rangefinder. This would significantly increase the commander’s ability to detect and hit targets.

Of course, the new electronics is expensive, but is it worth saving on it? Our western partners can count money, but they put all the most advanced equipment on their upgraded machines. What we can probably see next year, when the Americans and Germans come to us on their M-1A2 SEP V2, “Leopard-2А6” / А7. But the tasks of Russian tankers are not only to perform at competitions such as tank biathlon.

PS By the way, the tank crews of the 138 Brigade, in which T-72B3 appeared, became the winners in the tank biathlon, and the T-72B were used as training machines. True, the tankers say they regret that they were separated from their favorite T-80.
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  1. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 21 August 2013 10: 21
    Tank biathlon as an option for practical combat training of tankers has shown its effectiveness. It is gratifying to realize that in the military department people began not only to think creatively, but also to put this into practice
  2. Zhenya
    Zhenya 21 August 2013 10: 22
    Again, saving and again it will cost lives, the leadership of the Defense Ministry does not teach anything about current and past conflicts.
  3. Basileus
    Basileus 21 August 2013 10: 26
    It is sad that instead of a really advanced B2, the MO is buying truncated B3.
  4. svp67
    svp67 21 August 2013 10: 28
    This tank is not even a “half measure”, but “a third” “a quarter of a measure.” And the impossibility of opening the protective cover of the sight from the inside, when there is such an opportunity on the T90 - except for ???????? and "mata" there is nothing else causes, since SUCH method will lead to "loss of covers" and to all further consequences ... It's a pity, a trifle, not nice ...
    As "Gur Khan" called it there - "budget modernization". Strange, it seems that the budget is not small, but the output is rather weak. And on armor protection, there are a lot of questions, both about the VLD and about the "tower"
  5. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 21 August 2013 10: 34
    It seems to me that the surface area covered by dynamic protection is less than on other modifications than on the T-80 and T-90
    NOBODY EXCEPT US 21 August 2013 10: 35
    According to the author, not all tankers even saw the difference, what can ordinary mortals say about us ...
  7. svp67
    svp67 21 August 2013 10: 38
    The areas near the cannon mask could even be covered additionally, at least with "boxes" "DZ"
    1. Iraclius
      Iraclius 21 August 2013 10: 48
      Why are the remote sensing blocks so widely spaced? On what basis was this position chosen? Or have ATGMs attacking from the upper hemisphere already been banned? The tower generally looks "naked". request
  8. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 21 August 2013 10: 46
    Saving on sights and detection devices is unacceptable.
    With modern weapons, the one who first discovered and fired the shot wins.
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 August 2013 11: 01
      Quote: Dmitry 2246
      Saving on sights and detection devices is unacceptable.
      With modern weapons, the one who first discovered and fired the shot wins.
      Yes, here's the sight, then it is GREAT - "Pine" but to it I would also add a "combat-information complex" and increase protection ...
      1. S-200
        S-200 21 August 2013 11: 18
        multichannel sight "Sosna-U" development of the Belarusian "Peleng" "together" with our tank manufacturers of course ...
  9. Iraclius
    Iraclius 21 August 2013 10: 46
    It seems to me that we will meet the middle of the century on the "turtle" T-72. Eh, the Soviet Union ...
  10. Iraclius
    Iraclius 21 August 2013 10: 51
    According to the experience of two Chechen wars and other military conflicts, tankers-practitioners and the designers themselves have long been offering closed machine-gun mounts (ZPUs) for installation on the updated T-72. But former officials also saved on them.

    Recently, I just asked this question - what is there with ZPU. Everything is clear, I remove the issue from the agenda.
    It would be necessary to put these bureaucrats in tanks and send for Assad to fight. angry
  11. Armata
    Armata 21 August 2013 10: 52
    And what was secret about this tank? T90M means we are quietly showing the Indians, but T72B3 is still classified. Russia is a country of frightened idiots or what? Especially when you consider that India is interested in buying the T90 MS.
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 August 2013 11: 02
      Quote: Mechanic
      And what was secret about this tank?
      Yes, apparently the fact that we will supply a car to our army WORSE in its combat and operational qualities than the Indians, so to speak, "the people will not understand" ...
      1. Normal
        Normal 21 August 2013 11: 53
        Quote: Mechanic
        T90M means we calmly show the Indians, but T72B3 is still classified. Russia is a country of frightened idiots or what?

        Quote: svp67
        Yes, apparently the fact that we will supply a car to our army WORSE in its combat and operational qualities than the Indians, so to speak, "the people will not understand" ...

        "The people will understand," or rather, they understood everything long ago.
        The essence of these shortcomings lies in the fact that the basis of the technical training system is an unspoken prerequisite - a person who knows the weaknesses and shortcomings of his weapons can in a combat situation be frightened and not fulfill the task. At the same time, there is a provision according to which the design documentation of a new type of weapon entering the armament and into mass production is declassified, and the performance characteristics of the sample remain secret. Therefore, the main attention in the educational process is paid to the study of the design and operating conditions of the sample, and the performance characteristics are given in general terms with an emphasis on advantages.
        l # comment-id-1413946

        It is written about BMP, but it can be attributed to all equipment. Even in the distant 80s it was possible to find out the performance characteristics of the latest NATO equipment from their magazine "Foreign Military Review", and for questions about the performance characteristics of domestic equipment, one could have a conversation with a special officer.

        Already, there is no USSR, but we all keep secret from ourselves. So something needs to be hidden. Eh ... saving ....
  12. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 21 August 2013 11: 11
    "... the updated T-72 crew members need to manually remove the protective cover."
    “Based on the experience of the two Chechen wars and other military conflicts, practical tankers and the designers themselves have long proposed closed machine-gun mounts (ZPU) for installation on the updated T-72. But former officials also saved money on them.”
    These bureaucrats periodically need to be sent on business trips by crew members to manually remove the protective cover of the sight and the anti-aircraft machine gunner without ZPU in hot spots. belay Then there would be more sense from them.
  13. Zhenya
    Zhenya 21 August 2013 11: 54
    To send a shipment of this shit to Syria, there are few differences, so they would look at what he is capable of.
  14. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 21 August 2013 12: 02
    If you put on a shiny new galosh on an old holey felt boot, then the boot will remain old and full of holes.
    1. Basileus
      Basileus 21 August 2013 13: 29
      We have an old holey boots, and there is a new, beautiful and without holes. And there are two galoshes, let's call them, conditionally, B2 and B3. The first makes a new felt boots from the old, and the second - a holey boots in galoshes. So not every galosh is equally useful, but some of them may well transform the old felt boot.
  15. svp67
    svp67 21 August 2013 12: 03
    And now they "spoil" the mood before "Tankman's Day". The situation with new tanks in the army is now such that, of course, this "UVZ craft" will also be welcome. In my opinion, the place of this machine is in training units - since the complexes are similar to the T90, let the tankers prepare to shoot in "cheaper" vehicles ...
  16. olegff68
    olegff68 21 August 2013 13: 06
    They don’t buy the latest developments from tank builders, they don’t upgrade the old T72 and T80 (although they are capable of such a thing), they just pretend when this brothel will end!?!?!? angry
    Well, judge for yourself how much you can beat off the tongue about the need for a "dense" and not a "leaky" DZ coverage, about side screens with DZ, about a "relic", about sights and closed machine-gun installations, about the FCS, etc. etc. , and they all "save". Although those wishing to declare that there is little money in the country and there is not enough of it lately, judging by everything they have enough for everything !!!
  17. ed1968
    ed1968 21 August 2013 13: 26
    except pretsel one disappointment ....
  18. shinobi
    shinobi 21 August 2013 13: 41
    Tex, of course, everything is wonderful, sometimes the old people will still fight sadly and with new upgrades! But where is the new tank? When will they show it to us?
  19. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 21 August 2013 14: 45
    I completely agree with the above opinions of tankers.
    But the lid of the sight ... just perplexing - they put an expensive device, but a simple crap - no.

    Repost from another topic:

    When you look at the T-72B3, the feeling is that the novies put as much as they allocated money ...
    Stuck "Pine"? Well done.
    It is very interesting for which new ammunition the AZ was “modified”, and how was it modernized?
    Why again with the TKN-3 commander? (About TKN-4 did not understand ... it's not a tank device).
    Where is the closed zpu?
    Where is the circular protection?
    And the dynamic protection installation system does not even cause annoyance, but anger. Ahead, one block is missing for the sake of mechanics (caring, damn it), the other ... they just "forgot" to put it after the dismantling of the "Moon", laziness was probably on the roof altogether empty, from the sides of the tower - bare metal, hope again only for spare parts. The case again is only rubber ... BMO-T and it is better protected ...

    Here is the necessary minimum, and then the T-72 will still really show the guy to anyone. This is the modernization of the machine as the MAJOR tank of the aircraft, before the arrival of Armata, it is necessary to “shove” it to the maximum, and did not even do the minimum ... the rest of the equipment is (T-80) removed from service ...

    Bitterness and bewilderment.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 21 August 2013 19: 06
      Quote: Aleks tv
      But the lid of the sight ... just perplexing - they put an expensive device, but a simple crap - no.

      And so on and so forth .
      And you think, if you equip seventy-two in full, then how will it differ from the same ninetieth?
      “Ehe, hehe! you think to yourself. ”

      That's really where sadness and sadness are.
    2. evil hamster
      evil hamster 21 August 2013 23: 52
      In fairness, there is still a block in place of the moon. And the mechanic still needs to somehow lick it all the same not a suicide bomber. And on the sides of the standard 3 blocks DZ as on the T72B 89 and T90. And in general, it is strange to hear this, but what exactly did you expect? modernization, moreover, is quite budgetary, as actually expected, what are the emotions for?
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 22 August 2013 00: 46
        Quote: evil hamster
        as expected, what’s the point?

        This is sad, Dmitry.
        Sadness and misunderstanding ...
        - Imager to the gunner,
        - The stabilized panorama commander,
        - Closed ZPU,
        - Circular protection ...

        Only in my memory have we been talking about this since the beginning of the 90's ... i.e. for over 20 years.
        And if earlier it was clear that the T-72 is a "special period", now the priorities are changing.
        And from this list, what exactly is needed - only Pine (a wonderful sight) ...
        And such a DZ installation is a direct mockery ...
        The T-72B has better protection: both the mechanic comes out, and the "mask" is closed and the roof.
        Something like this ...
  20. alexpro66
    alexpro66 21 August 2013 17: 03
    Mechanic do not fill in anymore about tanks at all! You are a troll! Here is a photo of the next models of Almaty! Where is the MTO in the sun ?? Where is the low profile ?? Where are the six rinks? And your statements will simply amuse the whole given forum !!)) - По крайней мере Black Shark знает очем говорит он не хлопотов! Кстати Хлопотов со своими картинками окончательно прокололся-так терятют авторитет!!! А жаль не глупый мужик !
    And you somehow did not bother to answer my answers in this thread, what arguments have been exhausted ??))

    By the way, the models are greatly simplified, it can be seen from the first presentations to the warriors, but ALMOST what is already embodied!
    1. dm98
      dm98 21 August 2013 23: 54
      read this forum
      Dear mechanic!
      Maybe the truth is really worth putting all the points, and finally find out who the alexpro66 troll is here or you. I apologize in advance for such a tough question, but the whole forum looks forward to your news about armature, and then discusses it again.

      As they say better late than never!
    2. Regis
      Regis 22 August 2013 07: 12
      By the way, before the mechanic said that the rollers were just 7, that is, 1 more than the t-90.
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 22 August 2013 17: 10
        Quote: Regis
        that the rollers are just 7

        The black humor of the situation is that until the series goes on (namely the series, and not even the first iron), it’s too early to talk about it surely.
        And yet, it has been said more than once _ A very short time for the development of Armata can talk about resuscitation of either object 195 or object 640.
        And, given the realities, most likely _ 195th!
  21. ilf
    ilf 21 August 2013 17: 05
    Well, how can you save like that !!! Some Algerians and Indians find money, but ours is a secret miracle !!!
  22. Marek Rozny
    Marek Rozny 23 August 2013 10: 45
    and where is the "Relikt" DZ besides Kazakh BMPTs?
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 23 August 2013 19: 16
      Quote: Marek Rozny
      where else is it?

      In the sense of ?
      Starting with the Slingshot where they just don’t put!
      Actually, the question is interesting, in principle, at least where you can pose.

      More details, a little, you can
  23. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 15 July 2017 14: 23
    not even all tankers understood the difference. And she is

    - See the gopher?
    - Not
    - And I do not see ... but he is.
  24. Reklastik
    Reklastik 16 August 2017 22: 59
    Sholom, friends! I am writing to you from 2017)))))
    What we can probably be sure of next year, when the Americans and Germans will come to us on their M-1A2 SEP V2, Leopard-2A6 / A7.
    neither, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016, nor 2017 came laughing laughing laughing