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North Caucasian paradoxes: steal a lot, give more ...

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A representative delegation of Russian government ministers headed by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev recently arrived in Pyatigorsk, the capital of the North Caucasus Federal District? The reason for the visit is the need to discuss the Federal Target Program “South of Russia”, in which issues of social development of the North Caucasus regions are spelled out. It should be noted that the Federal Target Program "South of Russia" operates from 2008 of the year, and therefore the main emphasis is placed on the analysis of the results of the "First Five Year Plan". And these results, as the whole of Russia understood, and now the government has also understood, to put it mildly, they are not impressive.


North Caucasian paradoxes: steal a lot, give more ...


First, about honey. And if you believe the Minister of Regional Development Igor Slyunyaev, there is “honey” (achievements), it cannot but be. This is understandable, because even if the federal minister responsible for the development of the Russian regions reported solely on the negative side of the implementation of the federal target program, the first question that would arise after his speech would be: when you write “on your own”, Igor Nikolayevich . And so - the minister mentioned “shifts”, and, therefore, he did everything to save himself and his ministry from a new portion of criticism.

So, "honey" FTP. It turns out to be the following: in the NCFD, construction of 72 objects of engineering, municipal, tourist and transport infrastructure is underway. The construction of 11 schools and 14 medical facilities (hospitals, clinics, clinics). Industrial facilities are being built (cattle-breeding complexes, plants for the manufacture of plastic pipes and facing materials). The process of resettlement of residents from emergency housing.

At the same time, it is somewhat embarrassing that everything is still “underway”, “being built” and “underway”, although the first stage of the Federal Target Program seems to have expired last year ...

True, there is also the fact that Igor Slyunyaev defined as completed processes. In other words, during the first five-year plan for the implementation of the South of Russia program, some plans were nevertheless fulfilled in a timely manner. According to the Minister of Regional Development, such completed facilities are a school in the village of Novy Redant (Ingushetia), water communications Magas-Altievo, a greenhouse and dormitory in the same Ingushetia, construction sites for large families, more than 3,5 million square meters built housing.

The advantages of the program, if, of course, believe the government data, can be attributed to the fact that over the past five years, tax collections, preferential mortgage lending have increased, mortality has decreased, including infant mortality in the region.

To reach the level of this positive, the state had to send from the federal budget to the North Caucasus Federal District under the Federal Target Program “South of Russia” from 2008 to 2012 years, according to the most modest calculations (calculations made in the government) almost 44 billion rubles. At the same time, the plan document of the program for these purposes provided for 50,2 billion rubles. I want to believe that the Russian government managed to save more than 6 billion in the course of the program implementation ...

It was decided to transfer all the plans that were not fulfilled during the program, to a new phase, which will begin in 2014. Now government officials are going to send more than 230 billion rubles from the federal budget for the development of the NCFD, which, as can be seen, is significantly higher than the amount of funding during the first five-year period. In other words, the government does not refuse the rather impressive volumes of funding for the North Caucasus Federal District, although during one of the speeches at the same meeting, the impression might have been that the ministers were really going to make the North Caucasus live within their means and tighten their belts.

Now more about this speech. Its author is Anton Siluanov, the Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation, who at a meeting about the socio-economic development of the North Caucasus Federal District literally to pieces blew the state of the North Caucasian economies. At the same time, a feeling might have formed that the Russian Finance Ministry all the years of the implementation of the Federal Target Program “South of Russia” peacefully relaxed and even snored in places (both under Kudrin and under Siluanov), and suddenly Siluanov got up, and how the whole economy would spread county ...

According to the head of the Ministry of Finance, who woke up from a long hibernation, it turned out that the North Caucasus is generally an amazing region from an economic and political point of view. Here, during the implementation of the mentioned federal target program, the level of subsidies has increased 4 times (since the money itself gives tens of billions, and what else to expect, if not a growth of subsidies, note the author), the regional average share of tax collections in the regional GRP is 10%, although in Russia as a whole - 21%, tax concessions apply to 42% (!) of the population. It turns out that every second resident of the North Caucasus Federal District is a transport benefit recipient, while in a number of North Caucasian regions the preferential rate of transport tax applies even to owners of vehicles with engines whose power exceeds 150 hp. So, if you saw the amount of rubles in 7-400 by the owner of Audi Q500 in the North Caucasus in the receipt of the vehicle tax paid by the owner of the Audi QXNUMX, then don’t be surprised: the usual North Caucasian beneficiary stands next to you ...

By the way, the same Siluanov compared the tax return from the car in the whole country with the tax return in the North Caucasus Federal District. It turned out that in Russia it is approximately 2000 rubles from one machine, on average in the North Caucasus Federal District - 460 rubles. And if you add here those funds that the federal budget does not receive from paying real estate taxes (only 1 from 10 homeowners in the North Caucasus pay a full-fledged tax), then the impression begins that the North Caucasus Federal District is a place of compact residence the lion's share of all Russian beneficiaries.

However, even under the conditions of an almost universal “preferential” North Caucasus, there is a region that also enjoys additional privileges. This region is the Chechen Republic. Minister Siluanov noted that in the republic housing and communal services are paid at the level of 75% of their real value. Where else did the 25% benefit come from here? - representatives of the Chechen leadership did not specify. And will they clarify if the leadership of the republic itself was also mentioned by the Minister of Finance as the one which had long since been optimized along and across. The fact is that in the Chechen Republic the expenses for an individual official are twice as high as the average expenses in Russia, and if we talk about the “equipment” of Chechen officials with state cars, then in the Chechen Republic this figure is as much in 4,5 times as high as the national average! It's just that the officials-motorists-beneficiaries of some, and only ...

By the way, not so long ago at the Military Review, I had to get acquainted with one comment about the Chechen Republic. The reader writes something like the following: in 90-s, they started a war against Chechnya, destroyed the republic, brought grief to the local population - now pay something like a buyout ... The opinion is interesting, but without even going into the details of who and for what reason the military the conflict began, we can say: and to whom do we pay something? .. If you are sure that the money reaches ordinary citizens, helps them to work and earn money, and to increase the welfare of the republic, this is one thing. But this is just no certainty. But there is a firm conviction that money is deposited in the pockets of local kings and their nearest retinue. And this is a vicious circle. Financing those who are not interested in stopping the flow of subsidies from the Center, and therefore work somehow is not particularly ready, will lead to the subsequent degradation of the economy of the North Caucasus Federal District, even if the program is developed not for 230 billions, but for all 230 trillions of rubles ...

In general, it is clearly impossible to say that we did not suspect here of the difficulties and the intricacies of social and economic affairs in the North Caucasus. To believe that they were unaware of them in the government is generally silly. Then two questions arise: why did Siluanov "split up" right now, and why, even after he split up, the North Caucasus Federal District was promised even more impressive funding than funding during the first stage of the implementation of the target program? .. Strange, is it not true ... In the spirit: we know that they are stealing, we know who steals, and therefore we will give even more, maybe we don’t want to steal. Iron logic ...
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  1. Sewer
    Sewer 21 August 2013 06: 55 New
    53
    No matter who writes or answers, at least get the hang of it and block: But Russia now, is drawing the real tribute To the Caucasus!
    1. denisey
      denisey 21 August 2013 07: 35 New
      56
      Dear, it’s not Russia that pays, but a filthy government, look at Moscow and you will understand where the money goes. Thousands of foreign cars with the numbers 05 dag, etc.
      travel around Russia and create chaos and the government violet that the outback of Russia is dying.
      1. duke
        duke 21 August 2013 07: 40 New
        20
        Yes, Russian Moscow is in the same position as the outback, it is also dying out or emigrating abroad, do not fool people, especially since the entire Government, including the mayor, is not Moscow. Made a passage yard from the Russian city
        1. 225chay
          225chay 21 August 2013 13: 20 New
          +5
          Quote: duke
          Yes, Russian Moscow in the same position as the outback, is also dying out or emigrating abroad,

          Decides the whole government of the "God-chosen"
        2. Spectrum
          Spectrum 21 August 2013 20: 16 New
          +1
          Moskvobad, a nasty place.
        3. Very old
          Very old 21 August 2013 23: 39 New
          +1
          Is Moscow Russian? They build it according to whose drawings7 Everyone thinks, as if something like this had not been said in the West. An old disease, it’s time to get rid of it a long time ago. But the new Babylon (CITY, PARIS, New York, and whether the Dutch brothel) will not work out?
      2. 225chay
        225chay 21 August 2013 13: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: denisey
        filthy government, look at Moscow and you will understand where the money goes. Thousands of foreign cars with the numbers 05 dag, etc.
        travel around Russia and create chaos and the government violet that the outback of Russia is dying.

        From time immemorial lived theft and robbery. In less than a hundred years, no one has remade, on the contrary, they dismissed. What does Putin not see?
      3. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 21 August 2013 14: 10 New
        +5
        And where does the government get the money? Of course we have.
    2. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 21 August 2013 11: 45 New
      12
      But Russia now, is drawing up a real tribute to the Caucasus!


      Voting Russia 10.
      Almost 5.5 have been given away for the Heart of Chechnya mosque at the moment. million votes, raising to second place.

      Almost all votes cast via SMS:

      5 462 011



      on site: 858 108
      by SMS: 4 603 903


      The cost of SMS is 3 rubles. 54 cop.
      We multiply by 4603903 votes.
      We get more than 16 million rublesswollen by Chechens to vote for a mosque.


      Compare with the same ancient Trinity-Sergius Lavra or the Solovetsky Archipelago


      http://10russia.ru/results_2


      A shame!





      According to the results of the competition, TOP10 objects will be recreated in miniature on an area of ​​300 hectares in Moscow and they will tell tourists about the culture, history and identity of Russia. It is estimated that 10 million people will visit the Rossiya Park annually.
      http://serdce-chechni.ru/index.php/islamskoe-pravo/item/437-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4%D
      0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B4%D1%86%D0%B5-%D1%87%D
      0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 21 August 2013 13: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: GreatRussia
        Almost 5.5 have been given away for the Heart of Chechnya mosque at the moment. million votes, raising in second place.

        Typo. Lifting up in first place Kadyrov Mosque "Heart of Chechnya".
      2. My address
        My address 21 August 2013 13: 49 New
        +9
        Watched the vote "Russia 10".
        You are right.
        The mosque is in the first place with a huge margin.
        This is an insult to the majority of people living in the country.
        This is an indicator of the isolation of the state (power) from the country (the people).
        The people believe that Chechen terrorism won, and the government pays compensation to the vanquished.
        The more they pay to the blackmailers or idlers, the more they need.
        1. maksuta
          maksuta 21 August 2013 19: 15 New
          +3
          Well, by no means the state should vote for you. the fact that the mosque is in the lead, so those iditas for whom this vote was invented are to blame.
    3. alone
      alone 21 August 2013 18: 16 New
      +4
      most likely there is a looting of the budget. Money is transferred to the budget of the republics, and they take their shares and send money where necessary.
    4. Anti
      Anti 22 August 2013 01: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Sewer
      But Russia now, is drawing up a real tribute to the Caucasus!


      Tribute? Stupidity, insanity grows stronger, within 24 hours they were evicted, immersed in freight cars and on the tundra ... If necessary.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 22 August 2013 01: 59 New
        0
        You are probably still young. Now it will already be super-difficult to do this! Firstly, something else (the Saudis, the Emirates, and others, themselves bend their line) - they will send all the slag from around the world (they’ll send money enough), Secondly, who will undertake this? (no one will allow him (finances, assets, etc.). Thirdly, Russia is still not so strong as to butt with the whole world
        1. Anti
          Anti 22 August 2013 09: 59 New
          -1
          Compliment is accepted! What do you think of your people like that?) If he needs to, then he doesn’t need anyone’s permission (Martial law will write everything off. Then there weren’t enough people at the front, but they found reserves for Lentils.
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  3. Sirs
    Sirs 21 August 2013 07: 00 New
    +9
    The Russian Federation does not pay tribute, but a fee for relative calm. What will happen to the Caucasus after the Olympics?
    1. Sewer
      Sewer 21 August 2013 07: 02 New
      19
      So this is called tribute!
      1. Airman
        Airman 21 August 2013 10: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: Sewer
        So this is called tribute!

        ABREK takes the quitrent.
        1. stroporez
          stroporez 21 August 2013 11: 45 New
          +5
          100% --- cut Russian "sheep"
    2. Airman
      Airman 21 August 2013 09: 47 New
      16
      Quote: Sirs
      The Russian Federation does not pay tribute, but a fee for relative calm. What will happen to the Caucasus after the Olympics?

      After the Olympics, nothing good will happen. The Caucasus has already been corrupted by handouts and will not refuse them. You can restore order only by deporting the “princes” and their entourage to Kolyma without the right to correspond and return, and this is war. The Caucasus will NOT work itself.
      1. soaring
        soaring 21 August 2013 10: 43 New
        15
        Pvoshnik, and here I completely agree with you !!!!!!!! For all 1000%
        These tanned, bearded guys will never work !!!! The dashing 90s are repeated ... Only now in the role of gopniks are people with a characteristic accent !!! And while we are buying ourselves off from them, there will be no peace either in the Caucasus or in our hinterland .... Alas !!! And the softness of our government implies the helplessness of this government. And while such slugs are in power, there will be chaos. And the Caucasus understands and respects only power !!! It is in their blood. Maybe we have a strong and wise leader who will resolve this situation and put in place the "mountain brothers" !? Of the current I do not see anyone, unfortunately ....
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 21 August 2013 11: 26 New
          +4
          Yunus-Bek Evkurov! I see only him!
          1. alone
            alone 21 August 2013 23: 07 New
            +1
            what hi Denis! you know, not all the gold that glitters))) in the Caucasus there is not a single leader of the local republics that you can rely on 100%. Do you know why? Everyone who comes to power, immediately gathers his relatives around him. Evkurov, although a respected military man, and he is not sinless in this regard))
            1. Day 11
              Day 11 22 August 2013 01: 25 New
              +1
              Hello Omar! It just seemed to me like a deeply decent man. Plus, he’s an officer (this is important to me). I would not want to be disappointed in him
            2. Very old
              Very old 22 August 2013 01: 50 New
              0
              Tell me, Omar, can a man on a sinful earth be sinless? You or me? Why did the president gather around him Petersburgers? Den 11 does not want to be deceived. And me too.
    3. anip
      anip 21 August 2013 09: 54 New
      +5
      Quote: Sirs
      What will happen to the Caucasus after the Olympics?

      No comrade Stalin. It would have been a long time ago with the Caucasus.
    4. 225chay
      225chay 21 August 2013 13: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: Sirs
      The Russian Federation does not pay tribute, but a fee for relative calm. What will happen to the Caucasus after the Olympics?

      So before the Olympics, nothing good is happening there right now. Dragging budgets and bandit mess
  4. GUSAR
    GUSAR 21 August 2013 07: 02 New
    +8
    Well, this is ours, we ourselves will corrupt them, then reap the benefits
    1. dirty trick
      dirty trick 21 August 2013 08: 40 New
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      Quote: GUSAR
      we ourselves corrupt them, then we reap the benefits
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 21 August 2013 11: 32 New
        -2
        Heil, boys! Long live Russia where there are no Caucasians! (Caucasians are not, because they finally learned how to cook and ate)
        1. dmb
          dmb 21 August 2013 14: 09 New
          0
          Mohammed, did you see his nickname? He explains everything without any words. If we take offense at donkeys, then the Kadyrovs, Siluanovs and Putin will live better, but not us at all.
          1. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 21 August 2013 15: 23 New
            0
            Hello, Dmitry. And how do you like his avatar? No, he still has a philosophical approach to self-understanding, agree.
  5. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 21 August 2013 07: 03 New
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    But in other regions of Russia everything is already fine, everything is built and carried out, people are happy with everything, only the North Caucasus remains?
    politics ... "Beat your own so that strangers ... laugh"?
  6. fartfraer
    fartfraer 21 August 2013 07: 06 New
    +7
    there’s simply no desire to put things in order there. Apparently this is beneficial not only to the Caucasus, but also to some in Moscow.
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 21 August 2013 10: 21 New
      -2
      Wow ... what an amazingly insightful thought ... You must be a counterintelligence officer ..?
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer 21 August 2013 12: 24 New
        +2
        DAGESTAN333, but what does counterintelligence have to do with it? It should actually deal with other matters, and not investigate the redistribution of financial resources within the state.
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 21 August 2013 12: 34 New
          -1
          Well .. buddy, I just wanted to emphasize your mental abilities ...
          1. fartfraer
            fartfraer 21 August 2013 12: 42 New
            0
            don’t worry. everything with these abilities is fine with me. it's just the only logical explanation of the topic of the post.
      2. I am a Russian
        I am a Russian 21 August 2013 13: 37 New
        -12
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        Wow..


        ...chock?

        ... long ago came down from the mountains?
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 21 August 2013 14: 11 New
          0
          Quote: I am a Russian
          ...chock? ... long ago came down from the mountains?

          ... ingot?

          No, I continue to sit at home in the mountains. Are you against
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 21 August 2013 11: 57 New
      +6
      so it is. judge for yourself ------ why break through additional financing, for example, for the Voronezh region ???? If you can just --- "send" money to the Caucasus, from there for any no less than a third will return. and not just back, but in your pocket ....... it is cost-effective, however ......... again for such "nishtyaki" the leaders are not only in money, but also support the "infantry". that is, if you need to "shake" some kind of terrain, please, go !! black-headed lads ....... guaranteed and not expensive ..... so it’s not cool, and the Caucasus is more useful for bureaucrats than the "Russian hinterland", again same, "outback" and you can pay with abreks ........
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 21 August 2013 12: 31 New
        +4
        Come on .. the swarthy ones will not go anywhere ... They thought up all sorts of nonsense with the light hands of the white puppies, and let's drive this rubbish further in Russia. Your bureaucrats need us only to enrich their loved ones.
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer 21 August 2013 12: 40 New
          +3
          DAGESTAN333, do not consider it natsik. There are fellow friends of Dagestan. Excellent guys. The problem is that the so-called "adats" (like Chechens) and other national concepts somehow do not apply to all citizens of the Russian Federation. elders, etc., I hope it’s understandable. whereby I’ll clarify, there’s not a very large number of people from the Caucasus fascists, "but for some reason they are most of all in the news feeds. You can recall the scandals (at one time) as Russian stobs with the Caucasus could not write without error an application for admission to universities, and a lot of things can be remembered. This only says that Russian laws do not apply everywhere in the Caucasus (at least they do not work in full force), because everything is decided within the framework of " traditional society, "where it’s easier to go to a relative for help than to go to court. I hope you understand me. hi
          1. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 21 August 2013 15: 11 New
            +6
            Andrei, don’t worry so much .. if I consider and call you Natsik, it will be displayed only on the retina of your eyes, in the form of five characters, letters (n and c) of the Cyrillic alphabet that you will read, and only .. .
            Adabs (ethics), (meaning mountain adabs by this), of course, you should not "shove" any person on the territory of the Russian Federation. Pontoshloty boasting the superiority of their adabs over those who, for example, are not interested in this at all, themselves violate the mountain adabs, since adabs also imply respect for other people's etiquette.
            Stooblniki in Russian? They really are in Dagestan! But there will be about 100-200 people per year. And the farce, with every second stobalnik of the Russian language, is disheartening in us too ...
            Quote: fartfraer
            and a lot of things can be remembered. It only says that Russian laws do not apply everywhere in the Caucasus (at least they do not work in full force), because everything is decided within the framework of a "traditional society"
            - I don’t think that everything is so bad.
            1. fartfraer
              fartfraer 21 August 2013 16: 34 New
              +1
              "I do not think that everything is so bad." - I do not say that everything is bad)
              "Pontoshloty boasting the superiority of their adabs over those to whom, for example, it’s not interesting at all," well, I’ve talked about this approximately. Thanks for understanding
            2. matross
              matross 21 August 2013 17: 27 New
              +3
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              I don’t think that everything is so bad.

              And you would reinforce your thought with a true story about the situation "from the inside." An interesting article would be posted. You are an educated person, you would succeed. Most of them haven’t been to the Caucasus for a long time, and from here it seems that everything is really bad. Refute the impression ... for the friendship of peoples will be useful.
              1. DAGESTAN333
                DAGESTAN333 21 August 2013 19: 01 New
                +3
                At the expense of the article, I think you overestimate me. But I will definitely scratch something on this topic. I will try.
                Quote: matRoss
                Refute the impression ... for the friendship of peoples will be useful

                - hmm ... the friendship of peoples ... it is associated with a small boat that continues to disappear on the horizon, and I can no longer determine whether it is a boat, or a mirage that I do not want to let go ...
                1. matross
                  matross 21 August 2013 19: 39 New
                  +3
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  friendship of peoples ... it is associated with a small boat that continues to disappear on the horizon, and I can no longer determine whether it is a boat, or a mirage that I don’t want to let go ...

                  Figuratively. And say - overestimate smile
                  And there is friendship, but at the moment, of course, not between all peoples in the post-Soviet space. Examples? Everyone knows them. Russians and Ossetians, if we talk about the Caucasus. Say co-religionists? Let's say. Russians and um ... Tuvans at least! Yes, the Tatars are the same! What is hostility at the most ordinary everyday level? I think not her! There are some tricks separate stupefied by Wahhabi ideas. So there is a boat nevertheless!
                  1. DAGESTAN333
                    DAGESTAN333 21 August 2013 21: 11 New
                    +7
                    matross, well, after you, already the mood will rise).

                    We need to edit the constitution - to hell with the dog! clause on the ban on ideology, to form a national ideology and give in the mouth to those who decide to prevent us from doing this. In short, it is necessary to give Starikov an opportunity to solve such issues.
        2. stroporez
          stroporez 22 August 2013 09: 09 New
          0
          Take a trip to Surgut, e.g. and see how
          Quote: DAGESTANETS333
          the swarthy ones won't go anywhere ...

          to go, how else to go .......... and note ---- not to the field, to carry pipes, namely, to "nip" Russian "rams" .........
  7. vladeinord
    vladeinord 21 August 2013 07: 08 New
    +9
    A THIEF SHOULD SIT IN JAIL!!! Start with your own and Chechnya will also think about it!
    1. duke
      duke 21 August 2013 07: 41 New
      +6
      maybe it’s better to start with them so that yours might think ...
      1. 225chay
        225chay 21 August 2013 13: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: duke
        maybe it’s better to start with them so that you can think about yours ..

        To be honest, you need to start with the Kremlin
    2. mayor46
      mayor46 21 August 2013 07: 53 New
      +4
      Who is it?
  8. krasin
    krasin 21 August 2013 07: 11 New
    +1
    It’s strange, isn’t it ... In the spirit: we know that they are stealing, we know who is stealing, and therefore we will give even more, maybe we won’t want to steal anymore. The logic is iron ...

    Or maybe they suddenly stop stealing? Hopes, hopes. Some kind of crap! belay
  9. Normal
    Normal 21 August 2013 07: 14 New
    +2
    Somehow, an article was written not in the spirit of "friendship of peoples" ... Not in the spirit of building Eurasianism.
    Usually the fact that the article belongs to Alexey Volodin is clear, if not from the first sentence, then from the first paragraph. Then, after reading the article, he was surprised by the authorship. My regards... yes
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 21 August 2013 07: 19 New
      +8
      it seems to me that all the "highlanders" would have behaved no worse than the Slavs (well, such a division), if they had the same inevitable responsibility for the same actions. But this requires a strong government and relevant law enforcement bodies, courts and prosecutors. but in Russia decided to go a little different way, apparently, to give more money.
  10. almost demobil
    almost demobil 21 August 2013 07: 16 New
    +1
    Quote: Sirs
    What will happen to the Caucasus after the Olympics

    What will happen to the Caucasus during the Olympics !?
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 21 August 2013 08: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: almost demob
      What will happen to the Caucasus during the Olympics !?

      There will be nothing. There is someone to control the situation.
      But after ... when the security forces disperse to their regions, everything is possible.
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  12. Bort radist
    Bort radist 21 August 2013 07: 27 New
    15
    An old joke in the subject. Report of the chairman of the collective farm. "Last year, we sowed 200 hectares of hemp (we are not looking for narcotic implications, then we made ropes and ropes from it), aphids devoured it! Last year we sowed 300 hectares of hemp, aphids devoured it! Next year we will plant 500 hectares of hemp! choke! " angry
  13. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 21 August 2013 07: 29 New
    12
    Paradoxes ????? Stealing ??? Are you kidding! In any case, since EBN since the theft of state funds in the North Caucasus, they have not heard ... This is news! laughing
  14. Zhenya
    Zhenya 21 August 2013 07: 31 New
    +7
    I don’t even want to comment on this. IT'S A SHAME!
  15. Horn
    Horn 21 August 2013 07: 44 New
    13
    Yes ... Ah, the Golden Antelope didn’t work from Russia: they wanted to flood the Caucasus with money, if not to death, then at least to burp, but no, it didn’t work out. Then Russia gradually dyed from an antelope to a sheep. And to cut Russia will be all and sundry. And grow old - slaughter for meat ...
    1. Airman
      Airman 21 August 2013 09: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: Horn
      Yes ... Ah, the Golden Antelope didn’t work from Russia: they wanted to flood the Caucasus with money, if not to death, then at least to burp, but no, it didn’t work out. Then Russia gradually dyed from an antelope to a sheep. And to cut Russia will be all and sundry. And grow old - slaughter for meat ...

      Even the Kyrgyz wanted to demand 100 billion greens from Russia, but what if it breaks off?
  16. qwertynsan
    qwertynsan 21 August 2013 07: 55 New
    +3
    what is most annoying is that they steal insolently without hiding. They stole before and now and then they will drag from the state budget, but like that brazenly with a grin ........ Maybe it's time to introduce a raster article?
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 21 August 2013 09: 54 New
      +6
      we don’t have 37 years. it’s necessary to be softer, but it’s harder for the people (tariffs, taxes)
    2. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 21 August 2013 22: 18 New
      0
      the article will not help ... a small pickpocket will be shot at it, exemplary. and those who pull the budget - "witnesses" will go
  17. individual
    individual 21 August 2013 07: 55 New
    +4
    In Russia, with universal equality, there is a caste of people who are more "equal", and there are territories of "equality" which are undeniable. am
  18. 12061973
    12061973 21 August 2013 07: 55 New
    +4
    Sochi-14, at all costs. The new head of Dagestan needs money for good deeds, and then there will be a new chapter again, and so on ad infinitum, if Lyalyatipov would have been given money not from the budget, but would have been squeezed from Amirov, grandfather, mahach and company, then maybe something then it will change for the better.
  19. darksoul
    darksoul 21 August 2013 08: 20 New
    +8
    Moscow and the Caucasus as data regions, the whole country plows on them .... ro..zha gentlemen officials will not crack you? We would have already cast our eyes to Siberia and the Far East ... let’s somehow raise the titular nation
  20. pinecone
    pinecone 21 August 2013 08: 24 New
    +8
    This racket. In the same way, the Roman Empire tried to buy off the barbarians in its border territories until it completely collapsed. It is urgent to save what else can be kept, first to remove the Stavropol Territory from the North Caucasus Federal District, where the Russian people have become unbearable.
    And, probably, it's time to decide whether these districts are needed at all.
  21. optimist
    optimist 21 August 2013 08: 29 New
    16
    Some kind of "naive" author! laughing As soon as Russia ceases to feed its black-berry citizens, the Third Caucasus will begin the very next day. And who then will give out at the elections 99,9% for the traveler and edro ??? Upstairs, apparently, they thought it was cheaper to flood the Caucasus with dough than with shells and corpses of Russian soldiers ... Everything will be decided when oil prices collapse or something similar happens when the dough is physically absent. then they will also sweep away the clerk with accomplices. In the meantime, there is money in the country - "vaski" will still listen and eat.
    1. maksuta
      maksuta 21 August 2013 19: 30 New
      0
      Give Russia within the borders of the century so 12-14.hahahahahaha.
  22. antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 21 August 2013 08: 34 New
    +3
    Stop feeding the Caucasus !!!
    1. Grishka100watt
      Grishka100watt 21 August 2013 08: 59 New
      +7
      Here, the video was made specifically for you:
      1. Normal
        Normal 21 August 2013 13: 38 New
        0
        Quote: Grishka100watt
        Here, the video was made specifically for you:

        No, Gregory, this video was made specifically for you. The level of this video .... well, I don’t even know how to tell you so as not to offend. No, of course, “Harry Potter” and “The Chronicles of Narnia” are very popular works, but you still need to grow up. Well, in fact, it needs to be shown in elementary school, but here mostly people are adults.
        Yes, and “Cerberus” - a man who is not. Do you believe someone who is not?
        1. Grishka100watt
          Grishka100watt 21 August 2013 14: 05 New
          0
          I, as an adult, understand that when you answer, you draw attention to this video. And it suits me.
          It is strange that as an adult, you yourself don’t understand this. Well, obviously, everyone has their own functions: someone reads out of interest, someone like me fights, if possible, with ignorance, stupidity and conscious propaganda, separatist and other other occupational activities.
          Well, someone, so to speak, on duty, must respond to such uploads of patriotic video materials. We will not say who, after all here mostly people are adults.
          1. Normal
            Normal 21 August 2013 14: 18 New
            +2
            Quote: Grishka100watt
            I, as an adult,

            Judging by the posted video and your statements; not really. Well, if only "how."
            Quote: Grishka100watt
            Someone like me is fighting

            Well, one more fighter of the invisible front. And what are you fighting for? No, I understand that
            Quote: Grishka100watt
            with ignorance, stupidity, and conscious propaganda, separatist and other other occupational activities.

            Although all these are your estimates and unsubstantiated fabrications. But for what? For raising the tariffs of state monopolies and housing and communal services? For paid medicine and education? For the withdrawal of capital abroad? For an exchange for colored, cut paper of irreplaceable natural resources? For sending even these candy wrappers back to the west and financing the US economy? For Kadyrov to go to a bentley with a gilded pistol? For the freedom and impunity of Serdyukov? For walking through the boutiques of his mistress sitting under house arrest? For the mosque named after Akhmad Kadyrov as the main symbol of Russia?
            Good luck in your difficult struggle ... I can’t wish.
            Have you tried to think, Gregory?
            1. Grishka100watt
              Grishka100watt 21 August 2013 16: 00 New
              0
              And what are you fighting for?

              For the integrity of Russia. For the management of the Central Bank of the state. For amending the colonial constitution. For a strong army. For exemption from external management. For the national course. For sovereignty.
              1. Normal
                Normal 21 August 2013 18: 59 New
                +3
                Oh, pathos! ... General words and slogans. And say, "like an adult." An adult is distinguished by the ability to concretize his thoughts and actions.
                1.
                For the integrity of Russia.
                What exactly is meant? Integrity within what boundaries? Do you think that the City - Hero of Sevastopol - is a Russian city? Do you think that Belo-Russia and the left-bank outskirts are part of Russia? Are you ready to recognize the Akhmad Kadyrov Mosque as a symbol of Russia? Is mass emigration from Central Asia and the North Caucasus to Russia a condition of its integrity?
                2.
                For the management of the Central Bank of the state. For amending the colonial constitution.

                And who's stopping? The party in power in the Duma, the absolute majority of all convocations of the Duma. Together with the so-called systemic opposition, almost 100% minus deputies of single people. Constitutional majority! Change at least the entire constitution, but just make amendments. Enter the Central Bank’s accountability even to the Duma, even to the President, even to Uncle Vasya the witch. Oh yes .... We have the same "external management"
                3.
                For a strong army

                And what? Is anyone against it? Who exactly? Serdyukov?
                4.
                For exemption from external management.

                Please name the mechanisms of external control. Well, how does this all happen? Presidential Administration, Duma, Federation Council, Supreme and Constitutional Courts, Governors and Law Enforcement Agencies Where do they get directions from? What channels? How is the financing and reporting of these structures to external managers. After all, who are these external rulers of Russia?
                5.
                For the national course.

                Please clarify what do you mean by this phrase? The interests and priorities of which of Russia's nationalities should be respected and prevail over the interests of other nationalities?

                To be continued.
              2. Normal
                Normal 21 August 2013 19: 00 New
                +1
                Read more.

                6.
                For sovereignty.
                ....
                The meaning of the word Sovereignty according to Ephraim:
                Sovereignty - Absolute independence of the state from other states in foreign relations and supremacy in internal affairs.

                The meaning of the word Sovereignty according to Ozhegov:
                Sovereignty - Complete independence of the state from other states in its internal affairs and in foreign policy

                Sovereignty in the Encyclopedic Dictionary:
                Sovereignty - (German: Souveranitat - from the French. Souverainete - supreme power), independence of the state in external and supremacy in internal affairs. Respect for sovereignty is the basic principle of modern international law and international relations. Secured in the UN Charter international acts.

                http://tolkslovar.ru/s13672.html
                ....
                Constitution of the Russian Federation (RF)

                Article 4. The sovereignty of the Russian Federation extends to ...

                [Constitution] [Chapter 1] [Article 4]
                1. The sovereignty of the Russian Federation extends over its entire territory.

                2. The Constitution of the Russian Federation and federal laws are supremacy throughout the territory of the Russian Federation.

                3. The Russian Federation ensures the integrity and inviolability of its territory.

                Are you fighting for these provisions or are you against these provisions of the "colonial constitution"?

                Just do not, as an answer, upload videos with Fedorov. I, unlike you, am already an adult; fairy tales in childhood, science fiction in youth, and loved demagogy in youth ...
                1. Grishka100watt
                  Grishka100watt 21 August 2013 19: 13 New
                  -1
                  Just do not, as an answer, upload videos with Fedorov. I, unlike you, am already an adult; fairy tales in childhood, and fiction in his youth - he loved ...
                  And thanks for that, maybe people will be interested.
                  And as an answer, I will not write you anything ......
                  All I wanted was to say.
                  1. Normal
                    Normal 21 August 2013 19: 29 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Grishka100watt
                    And as an answer, I will not write you anything ......
                    All I wanted was to say.

                    Is that all you wanted to say? Or maybe that's all you РјРѕРіР »Ryo to tell?
                    Move your brains, Grigory, it's not for you to distribute Fedorov’s videos ...
                    1. Grishka100watt
                      Grishka100watt 21 August 2013 21: 09 New
                      -1
                      For you, I also have a video:
                      1. Normal
                        Normal 21 August 2013 23: 08 New
                        0
                        Quote: Grishka100watt
                        For you, I also have a video:

                        Grigor-and-I, I wrote to you that I had already come out of that age when everyone was taken the word, unlike you, I used to think with my head, and not just eat it. Keep the rollers for yourself, at night, before going to bed ...
                        And also, when you go for a salary yes to the nearest branch of OUR or MGER, you can report that they exposed the next troll and accomplices of the invaders on the VO website. Let them give you candy ... laughing
                      2. Grishka100watt
                        Grishka100watt 21 August 2013 23: 42 New
                        -1
                        Even if they give money to OUR departments or somewhere else for what I do, I won’t take it. You smart do not understand.

                        And, yes, you didn’t want to talk, but ... you devoted as many as 5 whole posts to me, and, in almost all of them, you emphasized that you used to think with your head, but honestly, I didn’t see anything smart in them.
                      3. Normal
                        Normal 22 August 2013 01: 27 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Grishka100watt
                        And, yes, I didn’t want to talk, but ... you have devoted as many as 5 whole posts to me

                        This last one.
                        Quote: Grishka100watt
                        but honestly, I didn’t see anything smart in them.

                        No wonder it is called; "like peas on a wall," "even though the count is on my head," "flew into one ear, flew into the other"
                        Of course you did not see anything; apparently not given ....
  • MVS
    MVS 21 August 2013 12: 31 New
    +9
    Quote: antiaircrafter
    Stop feeding the Caucasus !!!

    About enough to feed the Caucasus. In the village The Moscow Karachay-Cherkess Republic is one of the largest greenhouse plants in Europe, and 95% of its production goes to Moscow and the central regions of the Russian Federation. This time. Also in the Erkin-Shahar aul, one of the largest sugar factories in southern Russia is operating. The situation with the products is about the same as with the greenhouse. These are two. And finally, the cement plant in Cherkessk until recently belonged to Mrs. Baturina, then the wife of Moscow’s measure Luzhkov. As a result, local cement has become more expensive than Chinese. Now everything has returned to its place, but the sediment from the previous owners remained. These are three.
    On the first 2 points - who feeds whom (literally)?
    PS I am against the separation of the Caucasus from the Russian Federation.
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 21 August 2013 13: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: MVS
      On the first 2 points - who feeds whom (literally)?

      That is, neither bread nor meat is received in the return?
      If there is a mutual exchange, then who feeds whom?
      If everything is so successful, why do more subsidies go there?
      In Kostroma I have not seen Caucasian products, but Caucasians reselling local products is full. Do they feed Kostroma?
      P.S. I am also not for separation, but I do not approve of preferences for the Caucasus.
      1. MVS
        MVS 21 August 2013 14: 02 New
        +4
        Quote: antiaircrafter

        That is, neither bread nor meat is received in the return?
        If there is a mutual exchange, then who feeds whom?
        If everything is so successful, why do more subsidies go there?
        In Kostroma I have not seen Caucasian products, but Caucasians reselling local products is full. Do they feed Kostroma?

        I also have never seen products from Central Russia in my city (although there are dairy products from Belarus). We have enough fields, bread is baked actually in Cherkessk and Karechayevsk (we used to have imported black bread, because our rye gives a poor harvest, but recently it is not visible). For meat: we have many small farms, so the city meat factory works on local meat. But about feeding Kostroma - I don’t know where exactly the meat goes (to which region of Central Russia), one can confidently speak only about Moscow. Although my question “who feeds whom” was rather rhetorical, I hope that I could answer you as well.
        1. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 21 August 2013 14: 13 New
          +3
          Quote: MVS
          Although my question "who feeds whom" was rather rhetorical

          Yes, all this is understandable.
          The question is that in Kostroma, for example, such subsidies as the Caucasus do not go.
          1. Grishka100watt
            Grishka100watt 21 August 2013 14: 24 New
            -1
            What kind? What subsidies go to Kostroma and which go to the Caucasus?
          2. MVS
            MVS 21 August 2013 14: 34 New
            +1
            Quote: antiaircrafter
            Quote: MVS
            Although my question "who feeds whom" was rather rhetorical

            Yes, all this is understandable.
            The question is that in Kostroma, for example, such subsidies as the Caucasus do not go.

            This is the problem. If desired (which is not and is not expected), our officials could restore industry with such money and the need for subsidies would disappear by itself. But it’s easier to beg for money from the Center. We recently planted such, at the top such a storm rose. If interested, read about the arrest of the mayor of Karachayevsk and its consequences.
      2. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt 21 August 2013 14: 10 New
        0
        If everything is so successful, why do more subsidies go there?

        It would be nice to start such a conversation with the calculation of statistics on subsidies. Desirable in all regions.
        1. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 21 August 2013 14: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: Grishka100watt
          It would be nice to start such a conversation with the calculation of statistics on subsidies. Desirable in all regions.

          Similar statistics laid out a number of times.
  • maksuta
    maksuta 21 August 2013 19: 32 New
    -1
    as well as the Urals, Siberia, D.V. Sakhalin, Kamchatka. Stop feeding them all.
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 21 August 2013 20: 27 New
      0
      the question is not how much and where the money goes, but where they are spent and in the form of what products are returned.
  • Grbear
    Grbear 21 August 2013 08: 48 New
    +3
    I rather agree that this is a "tribute" to the Caucasus, moreover, consciously. And I see at least two reasons:
    • We need stability in the region that raised (and we took part in) the generation of children with a gun in their hands. They must forget the smell of gunpowder and the taste of blood.
    • Well-fed always have something to lose. Why is Afghanistan invincible? Yes, the Afghan has nothing to lose, and death in the name of faith is a chance to "live in the thicket." And no one has proved the opposite.

    Carnegie has the phrase: "If the problem can be solved for money, then this is not a problem. This is an obstacle. ". And the flow of money can be blocked at any time when it arrives.
    1. zart_arn
      zart_arn 21 August 2013 08: 59 New
      +6
      Quote: GrBear
      • We need stability in the region that raised (and we took part in) the generation of children with a gun in their hands. They must forget the smell of gunpowder and the taste of blood.

      Well, where is she, this stability? Will you order more dough to swell there?
      Quote: GrBear
      • Well-fed always have something to lose. Why is Afghanistan invincible? Yes, the Afghan has nothing to lose, and death in the name of faith is a chance to "live in the thicket." And no one has proved the opposite.

      Caucasians have long had something to lose. Compare the condition of the Caucasian settlements and the estates of Rusich.
      1. MVS
        MVS 21 August 2013 12: 36 New
        0
        Quote: zart_arn
        Compare the condition of the Caucasian settlements and the estates of Rusich.

        ... and you won’t find a big difference. I myself live here, no need to tell how we are swimming in gold and diamonds here.
        1. zart_arn
          zart_arn 21 August 2013 14: 05 New
          0
          Still, I recommend comparing with the huts of the middle lane and the northwest.
          1. MVS
            MVS 21 August 2013 14: 10 New
            0
            Quote: zart_arn
            Still, I recommend comparing with the huts of the middle lane and the northwest.

            Have you been to the North Caucasus? If yes, then there is something to argue about, and if not, then
            Quote: MVS

            no need to tell how we swim in gold and diamonds here.
      2. max702
        max702 21 August 2013 22: 16 New
        -3
        I would have thumped megatons that way 100 or more, because we have industry and other pleasures of disgust, and they have “dizziness from successes” from pure mountain air, as one historical person said, who is well versed in Caucasian affairs and very successfully solves the problems there problems, so if your favorite mountains begin to glow at night, I think this sight will cool the ardor of the hot local population for about 100-200 years ....
    2. Regis
      Regis 21 August 2013 09: 27 New
      +8
      Sorry, but you wrote nonsense about invincible Afghanistan. He was defeated by all who wanted. England, USSR, NATO. Everyone who came to Afghanistan could do what they wanted in it. The only thing that saved Afghanistan was that they were visited by civilized countries that waged relatively civilized wars. Any war to destroy both Afghanistan and the Caucasus will leave mountains and a bunch of savages hiding in them.
    3. kotvov
      kotvov 21 August 2013 09: 57 New
      0
      and come when the people are rotted?
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 21 August 2013 08: 58 New
    +2
    It’s going to be more expensive to fight .. Now, while the gingerbread cookies .. and there you can wave the whip there. Time is needed. But this money is still being screwed into Russia .. bully
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 21 August 2013 12: 32 New
      +1
      how can I say this to you. Dear, it’s not a question. But once and for a long time, and not every year more and more. And the situation was "left to chance" just after the end of 2 hours. Now either an infusion of money and relative calm in return, or a year and a half to restore constitutional order and the triumph of Russian law in the Caucasus by harsh methods when making a strong-willed decision, with the subsequent "equality" of all republics, territories and regions throughout the Russian Federation. somehow
  • albai
    albai 21 August 2013 09: 11 New
    +3
    To be honest, I have never been to the UK, that's why I don’t know the true situation in this region, but a purely personal opinion: the region is very restless, even dangerous from the close attention of Americans, Saudis, and other "friends" of Russia to the population of the UK. Because to this languidly smoldering powder keg, you can bring a match at any time and throw firewood. Therefore, not filling up with money, it is necessary to raise industry and agriculture, thereby increasing the socio-economic attractiveness of living and employment. And probably like Stalin it is necessary to firmly tie the population to the earth. Only a well-fed one will not leave home. And only the well-fed defending “overwork” acquired good will not allow anyone because of the cordon. Indeed, something like this Beria from zachuhannoy Georgia created a rich and prosperous "all-Union health resort." And in such a prosperous region, the above will not climb, and local people of Caucasian nationality will not climb into the center.
    1. optimist
      optimist 21 August 2013 10: 38 New
      +6
      Quote: albai
      Therefore, not filling up with money, it is necessary to raise industry and agriculture, thereby increasing the socio-economic attractiveness of living and employment. And probably like Stalin it is necessary to firmly tie the population to the earth. Only a well-fed one will not leave home. And only the well-fed defending “overwork” acquired good will not allow anyone because of the cordon. Indeed, something like this Beria from zachuhannoy Georgia created a rich and prosperous "all-Union health resort." And in such a prosperous region, the above will not climb, and local people of Caucasian nationality will not climb into the center.

      The whole thing is that these guys are stupidly unwilling to work. In the UK there are only two worthy occupations for a man: war with robbery or trade. And the vast majority of the infrastructure and everything else was created by the Russians, who were cut out or squeezed out in the 90s. And if the Caucasians born and raised in the USSR are more or less working and adequate (and by no means all), then the grown up “animals” know nothing but war and banditry. The Soviet government more or less civilized these Uryukov, and now they have again collapsed into feudalism 300 years ago (like the former Central Asian republics). Therefore, no matter how many enterprises there are not building, nobody will go to work anyway. Yes, and why? Russian d.uraki and so dough pile !!!
      1. 12061973
        12061973 21 August 2013 11: 13 New
        +2
        it’s already a bust; in Sochi, it’s full of Dagestanis despite the fact that Umbara fatwa lets out that you can’t work for kafirs, and it’s not easy to graze cattle in your own heat, Kizlyar cognac is better than Praskoveysky, and you need to work hard to become an Olympic champion.
        1. optimist
          optimist 21 August 2013 11: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: 12061973
          it's already overkill

          Do not "la-la": if a couple of thousand and works somewhere on a construction site, then this absolutely does not mean anything. Their main "work" is trade, roofing, etc. I personally saw in Dagestan and Chechnya in the midst of a working day a crowd of young healthy men, excuse me, kicking horseradish. And not only there ....
          1. 12061973
            12061973 21 August 2013 15: 38 New
            +3
            Quote: optimist
            And not only there ....

            those who don’t work everywhere are full, look in your neighborhood and see a bunch of bukhara, junkies and loafers, but this does not mean that you are all loafers, and there is nothing wrong with trading under the rules established by different laws of the Russian Federation, it’s the same labor .
      2. 225chay
        225chay 21 August 2013 13: 49 New
        0
        Quote: optimist
        Russian d.uraki and so dough pile !!!

        They will pile up the dough and the Kremlin’s will also have it! And they are not Russian at all. And the whole policy of separation and domination is absolutely not Russian. Guess whose
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  • AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 21 August 2013 09: 16 New
    +3
    I honestly do not understand the opinion of some authors. And what is the difference between a tribute from a millet purchase ?. If you want, I consider ruble financing as a free acquisition of the territory. I will explain. We print rubles ourselves. And if America buys whole countries for candy wrappers, then why can't we buy some territories for our candy wrappers? Another thing is that all disobedience must be brutally crushed. Moreover, it is necessary to adopt a law according to which the relatives of terrorists should bear subsidiary and joint liability with a relative of the terrorist who has caused financial and other damage. That would work out. In addition, criminal liability for evading this responsibility must be criminalized. Did not pay for the terrorist, go to the 501-th construction site. Better yet, lay the dues on the entire clan of the terrorist. Either give up relatives and roots and leave for Magadan to the BAM-2 construction site, or pay your whole life for some kind of injury.
    1. anip
      anip 21 August 2013 10: 00 New
      +6
      Quote: AK-74-1
      And what is the difference between a tribute from millet purchase ?. If you want, I consider ruble financing as a free acquisition of the territory.

      I propose financing Siberia and the Far East - there will also be free acquisition of the territory.
      1. AK-74-1
        AK-74-1 21 August 2013 10: 24 New
        -2
        You somehow incomprehensibly look at things. If the Papuans are given pieces of paper, and in return receive non-renewable resources - this is what is called. The state does not protect the equivalent of goods, but at the expense of resources, territory and population. Why are we stupid? It is the worker who needs money to buy bread and circuses, and the state needs RESOURCES, any hot, holonic, informational, competitive wars — are won at the expense of real resources from which the Voivode and the population can be made, because a person occupies the territory. Equivalent - money, gold, bonds, etc. - they are needed for the exchange of goods within the country (non-cash accounting production costs almost nothing), and the currency for settlements is at the interstate level.
        1. anip
          anip 21 August 2013 11: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: AK-74-1
          Why are we stupid?

          On the topic of your comment, I explain, you are our sharp:
          Siberia and the Far East are working, exported from us
          Quote: AK-74-1
          government needs RESOURCES
          but for some reason
          Quote: AK-74-1
          money gold
          sent to the Caucasus, but not in the wrong way, and not by those at the expense of whom, in fact, the very money appears.
          So why should "be acquired" territories with frank parasites and not with those who work?
          By the way your term
          Quote: AK-74-1
          I consider ruble financing as a free acquisition of the territory.
          initially fundamentally wrong. The territory was annexed (and acquired) back in 1859. So why, does your term somehow justify the injection of money to parasites, but exactly the same term with respect to Siberia and the Far East is accepted by you with hostility? Is your double moral? It turns out it's you
          Quote: AK-74-1
          somehow incomprehensibly look at things
          1. anip
            anip 22 August 2013 08: 41 New
            0
            Add more: why not working to the regions not to give "pieces of paper" more, but not to parasites? Why can parasites distribute “pieces of paper” to them can build cottages, can come to us and arrange debauches and their criminal affairs?
    2. MVS
      MVS 21 August 2013 13: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: AK-74-1
      Moreover, it is necessary to adopt a law according to which the relatives of terrorists should bear subsidiary and joint liability with a relative of the terrorist who has caused financial and other damage.

      By the way, when the terrorist attacks started, we had a noteworthy case: when the names of the terrorists were announced in the news, windows were broken in the homes of their relatives. So such a law would find understanding, but it is meaningless. Many go to the militants against the will of relatives. And after leaving, they don’t give a damn about their relatives. So such measures are unlikely to help.
  • Regis
    Regis 21 August 2013 09: 35 New
    0
    Made a tribute, a tribute)) Listen to you, so the United States pays tribute to the whole world. The truth has most of it as it wants, but pays tribute to them) And it is not worth writing that the United States is a paradise on earth and they have deprivation of money;)
    1. anip
      anip 21 August 2013 10: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Regis
      Listen to you, so the United States pays tribute to the whole world.

      As if it were.
      But then you showed the key difference:
      Quote: Regis
      The truth has most of it as he wants ...
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 21 August 2013 10: 02 New
      0
      what kind of money are you talking about, what are they printing? these greens have not been provided with anything in the us for a long time. UNDER SECURITY the Americans took the whole world.
  • Vorchun
    Vorchun 21 August 2013 09: 43 New
    0
    Well, it seems that they will agree even before: "Before the law, everyone should be equal, both the president and the ordinary resident, and all republics and peoples and ..."
    1. AK-74-1
      AK-74-1 21 August 2013 10: 25 New
      +1
      Nothing like this. We have equal republics.
  • anip
    anip 21 August 2013 09: 55 New
    0
    In the spirit: we know that they are stealing, we know who is stealing, and therefore we will give even more, maybe we won’t want to steal anymore. The logic is iron ...

    Well, yes, he will not be able to get into the bags, they will stop.
  • PValery53
    PValery53 21 August 2013 09: 58 New
    +4
    The North Caucasus simply needs tough and fair governance "according to Yermolov" with a larger economic component.
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 21 August 2013 10: 06 New
    +5
    Quote: PValery53
    The North Caucasus simply needs tough and fair governance "according to Yermolov" with a larger economic component.

    I agree that Yermolov’s benefits were of high quality.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 21 August 2013 10: 17 New
      +2
      quote-According to the head of the Ministry of Finance, who woke up from a long hibernation, it turned out that the North Caucasus is a generally surprising region from an economic and political point of view


  • niecke
    niecke 21 August 2013 10: 30 New
    +5
    Kremlin thieves-Caucasian are chasing after kickbacks ... from our robbed pocket !!!
  • DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 21 August 2013 10: 44 New
    +1
    Alexei, did you put this article as an outlet for enough Nazis to feed the Caucasian people? Or do you really think that the Caucasus has a “strange financial situation” only because the Caucasus itself, in principle, is strange without anyone’s “help”?
    1. Volodin
      21 August 2013 12: 33 New
      +5
      Magomed, the article deals with the "strangeness" of economic policy professed by representatives of the North Caucasian authorities, and that the federal government "just" only knew about it. And here "Natsik" and the Caucasus, as a region, as a whole? And the gentlemen you mentioned in any article can find a pretext to turn everything upside down.
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 21 August 2013 13: 05 New
        +6
        Indeed, everything seems to be laid out fairly. The fact is that the Natsik company deployed on the “Topvar” site will forget that it is their native aunts, bats and daddies that federal officials ALLOW our buy, becks and other evil spirits to have illegal bakshish from the federal budget, completely ignoring the people. They will concentrate with great pleasure on hatred of the common people, indulge in speculations about how on low heat they will fry Caucasians at the first opportunity, and the subject of the main debate will be: fry on a slow fire, or very slow ...
        Although .., what do you mean ..?
  • Yeraz
    Yeraz 21 August 2013 10: 45 New
    +4
    Well, here the Kremlin thieves are also getting richer, some of these allocated funds in the form of a kickback come back, it’s a circle, they are all tied up there, and about the beneficiaries, well, in Azerbaijan the same topic, pay and you will become an invalid and almost anyone. I have several aunts there according to the document are disabled)))) This is the flip side of corruption regimes,)
  • Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 21 August 2013 10: 55 New
    0
    Surely Siluanov received an indication "from above" on such actions. He himself somehow does not make the impression of a sufficiently independent minister, within a certain framework, of course. Just do not understand why it was all up to? As V.I. Lenin's article was "A step forward, two steps back."
  • ortodox
    ortodox 21 August 2013 10: 56 New
    +3
    Gentlemen take an interest in Russian history, but in history there is a lot of instructive, A.P. gave all answers to the Caucasian questions. Ermolov is an outstanding military commander and statesman. Link to a very good film about this story: The film of the Kuban Cossack Sergei Rozhentsev "In the footsteps of General Ermolov"
  • OCD
    OCD 21 August 2013 11: 09 New
    +9
    I would like to know where this money is, which flood the Caucasus. In North Ossetia, people often work two jobs, keep gardens, their own households, to make ends meet, and somehow survive. They also pay taxes, and pay utilities, at fantastic prices. It seems that the North Caucasus is somewhere on the moon, and we live not according to the laws of the state, but according to the laws of the mountains. Yes, according to customs, it’s harder to live. Salaries to state employees, they pay a pretty penny. They raised the patch for doctors, while removing the presidential 10% surcharge, and leveled the surcharge. Medical policies are not provided with anything. And the money that comes to the republic is stolen, local officials, who were delivered from Moscow, for well-paid places. A person pays for a place, and then fulfills the invested funds. A check arrives from the center, receives its share, writes a certificate that everything is fine and leave with a suitcase. So the money goes back. This is not a tribute to the Caucasus, it is a cycle of money in Russia. And how much is exported from Ossetia, from the same "Electrozinc" zinc, lead, sulfuric acid. There was not a single local specialist left in the plant management. All visitors from the Urals, with very good salaries, such that people are able to buy apartments, cars. If someone, thanks to family ties, has seized upon the feeding trough and is eating fat, others are on a diet. Enterprises and the agricultural sector do not work. Military factories are standing. People have no work. And it’s impossible to get a job for free. Even with employment in the Ministry of Internal Affairs or Moscow Region, etc. need to pay, and not a little. The previous Interior Minister appointed from Moscow was stolen, and left with a raise. The current minister appointed by Moscow has a brother on the federal wanted list, and he is quietly working. And each minister drags his own team from his previous place of work. Which is engaged in "earning" in key posts. And how to steal and earn business travelers. They come to work. Many do not want to leave from such a life. And how they behave, especially while relaxing and drinking, worse than people dancing lezginka. How many times have their faces been beaten. While working in Chechnya and Ingushetia, once again their nose will not be put out on the street, but they live and rest in Ossetia. So do not scratch everyone under one comb. And it is not the Caucasus that needs to be separated from Russia, but the establishment of order, if necessary, by the most stringent methods and means.
    1. 225chay
      225chay 21 August 2013 14: 00 New
      0
      Right Soslanbek!
    2. valerii41
      valerii41 21 August 2013 20: 18 New
      0
      It is necessary to separate the Kremlin from Russia
  • anfreezer
    anfreezer 21 August 2013 11: 10 New
    +1
    Horn .. "Then Russia gradually dyed from an antelope to a sheep. And everyone who is not too lazy to mow Russia. And if they grow old, they will kill for meat ..." And how many of these “wolves” do not feed, they both looked into the forest and will look ...
    1. piterkras
      piterkras 21 August 2013 17: 14 New
      -1
      The United States and the West have been milking Russia since 91 so that no Caucasians can keep up with them.
  • Alyoha
    Alyoha 21 August 2013 11: 44 New
    +7
    If God gives and comes to power (miraculously) didn’t “tolerate”, then we’ll quickly deal with the Caucasus. They, mainly of course among the Chechens, have a maniac-cowardly sadistic mentality, if they know that nothing will happen, then they would cut off the head of a Russian kid who a month ago finished school on camera "on high". And if they know that for one it doesn’t matter who killed the Russian, or for the weapons found or the cache of weapons found near the village, 50 of their people will be killed, then crime will come to naught, after a couple of executions. It seems cruel, but in the future it will save a lot of lives of both Russians and Chechens. And now they are laughing at the Russians and thinking that if we stop paying tribute to them, we will cut off a couple more hundred Russian heads and again we will pay. And you just have to do it humanly once, they are us and we are 50 times more, an eye for an eye and they will understand that they don’t want to cut the Russians and sit on their necks. It turns out some kind of ridiculous picture of 100 million Russians serving the “masters” of the Chechens, for which they fought and ran, the Germans were repulsed, but they also wanted the same thing, and under a handful of ungrateful peoples (who helped the Nazis in the Great Patriotic War and genocide the Russians in the 90s), our the political leadership puts Russia. It is they who owe us and not we owe them.
    1. Normal
      Normal 21 August 2013 12: 19 New
      +4
      Quote: Alyoha
      If God gives and comes to power (miraculously) did not "endure"

      No, Alexey, there will be no miracle. They come to power on their own. Representatives of the will and interests come to power, not the majority, but the most active, effective representatives of society. Now the most effective and active pseudo-elite thief. A thief loves not to fight, a thief loves to steal. Therefore, we pay tribute to ensure that Chechens do not raid. In addition, you can steal together with Chechens and other Caucasians.
      So, while supporters of law and order for everyone, without exception, will sit at home and pound the clave, the government will have GDP.
    2. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 21 August 2013 23: 13 New
      0
      our government will not give them an insult, because they are Russians
  • badabing
    badabing 21 August 2013 12: 04 New
    +4
    no war - no
    olympiad is preparing - preparing
    it will pass quietly - I think so
    a lot of money swelled - yes more than!
    after the 14th year, everything will fall into place, force everyone to live normally and the Dag and Czechs and a huge number of Russians who are the same bandits as black
    whom the Caucasus will enslave ?! what nonsense
    soon everyone will be asked for their investment and who does not want to change their lifestyle or die or sit down
    everything will work out guys, not quickly, not peacefully, but it will work out
    no one wants to change peacefully and voluntarily
    start stirring up now and some sort of pressure cooker will blow itself up in Sochi and that's it, a few billion have been cheated, and not only ours, half the world has invested there, so all financial elites are interested
    gentlemen’s patience, the main thing is not to say rubbish about how the Caucasus will conquer Russia and the Russians flee from their lands to the north .. well, this is not even funny, is there really so much pride in our history?
    1. 225chay
      225chay 21 August 2013 14: 07 New
      +2
      "Soothing" you are "ours" from the Kremlin)) thanks for the "analgin" which is a balm for soul noodles where to buy?
  • Iraclius
    Iraclius 21 August 2013 12: 55 New
    11
    I read the comments and understand that if you want to embroil the people, but pay one part of it more than the other.
    In the imagination of the layman S.Kavkaz is like the gardens of Eden, where everyone bathes in luxury.
    Friends! The rich get rich, and the poor get poorer. The modern Caucasus is a convenient place for legalizing the income of various officials and cut-back schemes. I personally saw Chechen builders, Dagestan workers, etc. What are you rubbish about here, that no one works there? Or are there also Uzbeks grazing cows and sheep? Do Chinese go to teachers? Do some Russians work at enterprises?
    And there are enough ghouls and parasites among other nationalities. It is necessary to fight against the fact that the laws in our country do not work and are not respected by selected categories of citizens. And if you have already committed a crime and your guilt has been proved, then you should be punished - regardless of income and social status, income.
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 21 August 2013 14: 04 New
    +1
    <<< the impression is emerging that the North Caucasus Federal District is a place of compact residence for the lion's share of all Russian beneficiaries. >>>
    This is the place of compact residence of the lion's share of NOT ONLY all Russian beneficiaries, but also the unemployed, traveling around Moscow in Lexus, etc., obviously, in search of work, as well as the unemployed, frankly, not rushing to work, receiving such a "allowance" on unemployment "(in the form of subsidies), which is enough not only for Lexus for children, but also for the construction of generic nests in the form of stone mansions with all the bells and whistles, as well as graduates of high school students with 100 percent exam, as well .. (each is easy can continue the list of unique SKFO
  • Yeraz
    Yeraz 21 August 2013 14: 22 New
    +7
    Damn, what a powerful thing these media are)) If I were not an Azerbaijani, living in Russia listening to local media, I probably thought too, stupid people and some thieves live there, to whom they send Russian tribute. THIS IS A FULL BAD PEOPLE !!! If work, people work in they didn’t see the money they sent. Stupidly, the North Caucasus is a bank where an official launders money from Moscow and, of course, is sharing it with local officials. But in the end, ordinary people are to blame ...
  • Day 11
    Day 11 21 August 2013 14: 26 New
    0
    So make conclusions, men, why Ukrainians do not want to unite with us! (This is to yesterday’s discussion). They cannot figure it out with their own people, and then they’ll
    1. piterkras
      piterkras 21 August 2013 17: 10 New
      0
      Ukrainians do not want to unite with us, because then they will have to admit that without Russia they will nowhere. And it’s a shame ... Yes, and the Ukrainians themselves Akhetov’s milked so well ...
      1. Corneli
        Corneli 21 August 2013 17: 20 New
        0
        Quote: piterkras
        Ukrainians do not want to unite with us, because then they will have to admit that without Russia they will nowhere.

        Original conclusion:
        That is, Ukrainians cannot live without Russia, but live separately, because they do not want to recognize that "they cannot live without Russia"? Do you seriously think that this is the main reason (or, in general, the reason) not the desire for unification?
  • Farvil
    Farvil 21 August 2013 15: 08 New
    +2
    The officials do not have a division by nationality, they are united by schemes of theft and dividing of finances and state property, this is the power, it separates us so that we wet each other while they do their affairs while standing aside and laughing, they are IMPAIRABLE.
  • 12061973
    12061973 21 August 2013 15: 55 New
    +2
    Enough to feed Kadyrov and his ilk, Sochi is also the Caucasus. You want to put Ermolov if you find, you can’t see Ermolovs more and more marmots in the Russian Federation.
  • piterkras
    piterkras 21 August 2013 17: 09 New
    0
    And why should the budget of the Krasnoyarsk Territory feed Moscow, the Kuril Islands, Sakhalin, the Pskov Region? I do not understand? And Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug - to subsidize some distant Buryatia there?
  • Moka
    Moka 21 August 2013 19: 52 New
    +2
    Officials and ignoramuses scourge the countries of the former USSR. Officials steal and spit on ordinary people and everything is clear with them, and ignoramuses are slipping into the cesspool of nationalism and just from here hatred for this or that nation as a whole is born and this is sad, the young generation of Russians is growing from the feeling that the Caucasus is alien and hostile and the youth of the Caucasus sometimes openly demonstrates disrespect for any value system without really knowing their own and it’s not that Uncle Sam, playing at such a dissonance, has already launched a couple of color revolutions, but just that it is our mutual treachery and gives space for maneuvers to enemies internal and external, and he is a common enemy and does not sleep.
  • spirit
    spirit 21 August 2013 20: 10 New
    +3
    In your area or city there is no work? And that which is underpaid? 1
    EXIT IS ALWAYS)))) fellow
    Pull up the local government, sit on the ass and scream that we do not want to work, we only know how to fight and dance lezginka)
    Divorce in Russia !!! checked by the Caucasus! wink




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