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Ready next Su-34

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August 15, 2013 at the airport of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant named after V.P. Chkalov (NAZ, a branch of JSC "Company" Sukhoi ") held a celebration in honor of Air Day fleet. The central moment of the holiday was the demonstration flights of two regular Su-34 front-line bombers built by the enterprise. One of them already carried the full color scheme of the Russian Air Force, standard for these vehicles of the last issue, and had tail number “31 red”, and the second was still unpainted and had no tail number.


The two 15 August planes demonstrated in Novosibirsk are next, built under the State Contract No. 319 / 3 / 1-ЕОЗ from 10 November 2008 worth 33,6 billion rubles for the supply of Su-32 bombers to the Russian Ministry of Defense. Under this contract, four Su-34 aircraft were built in Novosibirsk and transferred to the Russian Air Force in 34, six in 2010, ten in 2011, and four earlier in May and July 2012 (vehicles with red tail numbers) 2013 "," 28 "," 29 and "30"). Thus, the aircraft shown on 34 August became the 15 and 25 machines built under the 26 contract of the year, and the 2008 and 38 aircraft Su-39 in general, taking into account all flight prototypes. In total, in the 34, the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant must manufacture and hand over the final 2013 machines under contract to the Russian Air Force 12 of the Year.In addition, in 2008, the Sukhoi Company signed a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense to supply Su-2010 92 aircraft.


Two new Su-34 front-line bomber built at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. In front of the plane in the coloring of the Russian Air Force (tail number "31 red"), followed by an unpainted plane. Novosibirsk, 15.08.2013 (c) Ilnar Salakhiev / www.mycity-military.com




A new not yet painted front-line bomber Su-34, built at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. Novosibirsk, 15.08.2013 (c) Ilnar Salakhiev / www.mycity-military.com
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  1. silver_roman
    silver_roman 20 August 2013 11: 36 New
    +9
    beautiful birds.
    just do not quite understand how many of them will (should be) in total?
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 20 August 2013 11: 39 New
      12
      How many will build, all of ours!)
      Cool plane! Still pictures of "painted."
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 20 August 2013 11: 58 New
        13
        Super news, super pictures +++++.
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 20 August 2013 13: 37 New
        +5
        In early 2012, the Russian Ministry of Defense entered into a supply contract with Sukhoi 92 Su-34 until 2020, in addition to the already concluded contract for 32 machines. In 2013, the expectedabandonment 12 Su-34.
        1. Su24
          Su24 20 August 2013 14: 39 New
          +3
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          In early 2012, the Russian Ministry of Defense entered into a supply contract with Sukhoi 92 Su-34 until 2020, in addition to the already concluded contract for 32 machines. In 2013, the expectedabandonment 12 Su-34.


          12 pieces under a contract from 2008 for 32 cars, and 2 aircraft under last year’s contract.
      3. sergey72
        sergey72 20 August 2013 13: 53 New
        11
        Catch, do not mind ...
        1. viruskvartirus
          viruskvartirus 20 August 2013 16: 25 New
          +6
          Elegant device is very photogenic ...
      4. Apollo
        Apollo 20 August 2013 15: 39 New
        12
        Quote: klimpopov
        Still pictures of "painted."

        Su-34 board number 23 red, 2013



        Su-34 board number 10 red, 2013
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 20 August 2013 16: 03 New
          +6
          Well, I like the new color.
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 20 August 2013 16: 08 New
            +2
            Quote: klimpopov
            Well, I like the new color.


            me, too, this is called the latest fashion wassat
            Good afternoon Klim hi
        2. malikszh
          malikszh 20 August 2013 23: 53 New
          0
          why does the word separate red ?? So is there still blue or white?
          1. Search robot
            Search robot 21 August 2013 04: 24 New
            +5
            Quote: malikszh
            why does the word separate red ?? So is there still blue or white?

            Look at the number of the aircraft.
            Color indicates belonging to a specific air base.
            There are 5 of them: red, white, yellow, blue, black.
    2. Bronis
      Bronis 20 August 2013 12: 18 New
      +7
      124 pcs. ordered (about 10 squadrons). The numbers of bringing to 140 pcs were announced.
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 20 August 2013 12: 27 New
        0
        well, it seemed like 98 was said first. Then it was decided to increase it in order to replace all the su-24s. 24 at one time, they will probably be converted into scouts or something else, and part will be written off.
        1. patline
          patline 20 August 2013 14: 25 New
          +7
          What a beautiful airplane. As much as I watch, I admire so much. And the filling is cool.
        2. Bronis
          Bronis 20 August 2013 14: 54 New
          +3
          Quote: silver_roman
          24 at one time will probably be converted into scouts or something else, and part will be written off.

          Write off, soon, will have all the Su-24. No one has yet canceled the resource. And it’s very emergency (the most emergency in our Air Force). For 10 years about 15 boards lost.
    3. Su24
      Su24 20 August 2013 14: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: silver_roman
      beautiful birds.
      just do not quite understand how many of them will (should be) in total?


      124 under two existing contracts. And if you recall yesterday's news about the order of 184 state recognition complexes for them by 2020, then apparently even more. This year the contract for 32 cars from 2008 will be closed, by the way.
      1. Bronis
        Bronis 20 August 2013 14: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Su24
        124 under two existing contracts. And if you recall yesterday's news about the order of 184 state recognition systems for them by the 2020 year, then apparently even more.

        Not a fact, unfortunately. You need to have a bit of stock.
        However, now the order of fighters is more interesting.
    4. viruskvartirus
      viruskvartirus 20 August 2013 16: 24 New
      +2
      Sukhoi bought 184 state recognition systems for Su-34
      http://lenta.ru/news/2013/08/19/su34/
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    6. Grisha
      Grisha 20 August 2013 23: 44 New
      0
      The bigger, the better!
    7. DRUG DRUG
      DRUG DRUG 21 August 2013 07: 12 New
      0
      By the end of 2013, a total of 45 pieces will be manufactured. and under the new contract another 92 pcs. So there will be a total of 137 pcs. This is a force.
    8. Suhov
      Suhov 21 August 2013 12: 45 New
      0
      If planes waved their wings, can you imagine how much faster they would fly?
  2. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 20 August 2013 11: 43 New
    +2
    More planes, more.
    1. eplewke
      eplewke 20 August 2013 13: 46 New
      +1
      Beautiful bird, powerful attack aircraft! The load capacity is good, the aerodynamics are excellent for a tourmovik, 30mm. the gun generally complements the theater. Generally a big fat plus !!!!
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 20 August 2013 13: 51 New
        12
        This is not an attack aircraft. This is a front-line bomber. The Su-25 is working as an attack aircraft.
  3. Constantine
    Constantine 20 August 2013 11: 46 New
    0
    Fine! Just great! soldier
  4. Diviz
    Diviz 20 August 2013 11: 49 New
    0
    peregrine falcon in a leather robe ...
  5. Apollo
    Apollo 20 August 2013 11: 49 New
    13


    quote-15 of August 2013 of the year at the airport of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant named after V.P. Chkalov (NAZ, a branch of Sukhoi Company OJSC) held a celebration in honor of Air Fleet Day. The central moment of the holiday was the demonstration flights of two regular Su-34 front-line bombers built by the enterprise.


    1. eplewke
      eplewke 20 August 2013 13: 51 New
      +2
      oh handsome ... Assad would have such a squadron, the war would have ended in a month ...
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 20 August 2013 14: 08 New
        +9
        It’s like a microscope cracking nuts. Assad would be a Su-25 with high-precision weapons (yes, I know that they themselves don’t even have it) - the very thing is to dig out a terragyug from a hole.
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 20 August 2013 16: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: Wedmak
          hatch out of the terrorug

          Good. when bandits are in the open. What to do when they, creatures, hide behind the backs of women and children, like real warriors?
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 20 August 2013 17: 11 New
            +2
            Alas, the Air Force is powerless here. Here it is necessary to connect a company of snipers to work.
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  6. ivansaxonov
    ivansaxonov 20 August 2013 11: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: silver_roman
    beautiful birds.
    just do not quite understand how many of them will (should be) in total?


    32 + 92 = 124 This is only under existing contracts ... I think there will be more :)
    1. Bronis
      Bronis 20 August 2013 12: 24 New
      0
      Quote: ivansaxonov
      32 + 92 = 124 This is only under existing contracts ... I think there will be more :)

      If you consider how many Su-24 are there, then when replacing 1x1, a maximum of pcs. 140-150.
  7. Mercenary
    Mercenary 20 August 2013 11: 58 New
    0
    it will not be enough.
  8. USNik
    USNik 20 August 2013 12: 21 New
    +3
    Quote: Mercenary
    it will not be enough.

    124 is not the final figure, plus do not forget more than 200 su-24 different modifications, they can do a lot of the same thing. Plus, sworn friends do not have this type of aircraft at all, you can forget about the decommissioned Fe-111s ...
    1. viktorR
      viktorR 20 August 2013 16: 10 New
      +3
      They have a strike of needles - not a bad unit, no worse than thirty-four
  9. Prishtina
    Prishtina 20 August 2013 12: 33 New
    -10
    Quote: USNik
    Quote: Mercenary
    it will not be enough.

    124 is not the final figure, plus do not forget more than 200 su-24 different modifications, they can do a lot of the same thing. Plus, sworn friends do not have this type of aircraft at all, you can forget about the decommissioned Fe-111s ...

    it’s not because of stupidity or naivety .. but because of our “sworn friends”, all (almost all) Front-line fighters are universal, equally capable of working on 3 environments. EW is carried out by modifications of their aircraft or elementary hanging containers. The armor (as in the 34th) is a very controversial element for this type of aircraft. From my point of view, it would be much more interesting to replace the SU-24 with the SU-30SM in a 1 to 1 ratio.
    "Work on the ground," - voiced the draft PAK SHA_ wait. One of the main advantages of the attack aircraft will be the combat radius of ~ 1000 km .. Which brings it to a similar radius with the MIG-35. + armor, + new avionics, + maybe radar for working in the air at short, medium distances.
    And SU-34 ... from the opera
    1) support the pants Chkalovtsev
    2) the development of the SU-24 resource leaves no choice .. it is necessary to change the faster the better.
    1. guran
      guran 20 August 2013 13: 37 New
      13
      Su-34 is essentially a mini-strategist. Taking off from Kamchatka, it will cover the west coast of the USA like a rabbit bison.
      I’m not talking about Europe. Fifty 34's will smash the European theater into trash and horror, from Budapest to the English Channel.
      1. guran
        guran 20 August 2013 15: 07 New
        0
        retired negodue)))
        and cho indignation, huh?
      2. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus 20 August 2013 16: 23 New
        +9
        Su-34 is essentially a mini-strategist. Taking off from Kamchatka, it will cover the west coast of the USA like a rabbit bison.
        I’m not talking about Europe. Fifty 34's will smash the European theater into trash and horror, from Budapest to the English Channel.

        There is some truth in your words, theoretically, the plane has everything you need to make an intercontinental flight (with an additional adjustment, of course), and indeed, if you really want, you can deal a serious blow to these birds on the west coast of the United States. But there is a small, or rather large BUT:
        1-The aircraft has everything necessary for a long flight, but the main task of all these amenities is primarily mobility, and the ability to transfer an aviation regiment to a theater of operations in a matter of hours, but not intercontinental flights.
        This function can be used only in the most critical case of hopelessness and the absence of other means of delivering a strategic strike.
        In addition, I myself can hardly imagine how such an air ticket should look like.
        The only planes to escort the dispatcher aren’t stupid (there’s not enough dough for kerasin), and there are dozens of group departures, so we’re sorry we don’t have so much, and even if they were, it’s easier to find a “steel cloud” flying from the ocean than a turnip . And we forgot about the pilots, they are there for about 5 years, bombing and back, all the same, not the ergonomic conditions that are on the strategists. So let everyone do their own thing, front-line soldiers, and strategists with a deep rear)))
        1. guran
          guran 20 August 2013 16: 31 New
          +5
          If the air regiment is based on Kamchatka, then what is the transfer? One last and decisive flight and all.
          Europe. What are the intercontinental flights? Almost the entire territory is within 30 minutes of arrival.
          And if he let go of the rocket, then you can forget about Europe.
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 20 August 2013 16: 58 New
            +2
            And if he let go of the rocket, then you can forget about Europe.

            You can’t take a lot of missiles either. This was shown on the model by 3 anti-ship missiles (or missile defense systems, now this is not essential), actually two. Moreover, the plane with them will be like a pregnant hippo. So Bashkaus is right, everyone should do his own thing. Another question is if there will be some kind of modification for a distant bomber.
      3. Prishtina
        Prishtina 20 August 2013 20: 09 New
        +1
        refueling system and a similar assortment of ASPs, I make a mini-strategist of any MFI generation 4+
      4. Bronis
        Bronis 20 August 2013 21: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: guran
        Su-34 is essentially a mini-strategist. Taking off from Kamchatka, it will cover the west coast of the USA like a rabbit bison.
        I’m not talking about Europe. Fifty 34's will smash the European theater into trash and horror, from Budapest to the English Channel.

        That's what, but he is not a “mini-strategist". "A little strategist" within Europe was once the Tu-22M. But that’s the nomenclature of weapons, for a missile carrier. Su-34 is a front-line bomber with a greater range than Su-24, but not a strategist. The nomenclature of weapons is not the same, and range as you understand, too.
        50 cars will be able to "smash", say, one city. Well, the European theater of operations needs much more ... And in the current situation, they will not survive in a hypothetical conflict (I repeat - the nomenclature of weapons will not allow operating outside the enemy’s air defense zone). Yes, and they should not be a nightmare of Europe, because the role is not theirs, but the "classic" long-range with X-55 / 101 / 102.
        Although the French proudly called their “Mirage” “strategic,” it’s just to preserve national pride. And we have PAK YES foreseen - he and laurels ...
      5. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 21 August 2013 11: 26 New
        0
        Japan. And China, of course ... SGA needs completely different means, we also have them, of course.
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2013 13: 46 New
      +2
      "Work on the ground," - voiced the draft PAK SHA_ wait.

      Where, when, who voiced? More?
    3. Su24
      Su24 20 August 2013 14: 46 New
      +4
      Quote: Prishtina
      From my point of view, it would be much more interesting to replace the SU-24 with the SU-30SM in a 1 to 1 ratio.


      Su-30s are already being purchased from us, and this is more likely an analogue of the MiG-27, IS. The Su-34 has its own niche.
      1. Prishtina
        Prishtina 20 August 2013 20: 09 New
        0
        what niche? decrypt?
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 20 August 2013 20: 36 New
          +1
          what niche? decrypt?

          Front-line bomber. Honed to work on the ground. With appropriate weapons. Imprisoned for striking in the depths of the enemy’s defense against important targets.
    4. Avenger711
      Avenger711 20 August 2013 21: 36 New
      +3
      Universal aircraft do not exist, the F-15E is so-so strike and at the same time heavier than fighter options.
  10. Oskar
    Oskar 20 August 2013 12: 34 New
    14
    A real flying cruiser of shaving attacks and the world's strongest front-line bomber, chained in titanium armor. Real Russian Knight. His prototype took off from the earth in April 1990, when in Russia everyone was already raving about Yeltsin. After the collapse of the Union, it was planned that they would begin to test it in 1996. But the EBN regime didn’t have you understand, of money. But there was money to keep in power in the same 1996, they easily threw billions into the election propaganda for pop monkeys and television dealers. Under the contracts valid until 2020, 124 aircraft of this type should be issued. The fate of the aircraft, as well as all the weapons created during that period, is difficult.
    1. Voskepar
      Voskepar 21 August 2013 01: 22 New
      +2
      We ordered for the SU-34 184 friend or foe system.
      With a margin coming out?
  11. Hort
    Hort 20 August 2013 12: 37 New
    +1
    see they were making noise over the city that week :) The tests were held
  12. Prishtina
    Prishtina 20 August 2013 12: 41 New
    -14
    Again, as for me, it’s better to remove the armor ... thus increasing the radius or load. And the aircraft itself will be more squat. Thrust in normal m ~ 0,71 leaves no chance for this sort of fighter-bomber in an air battle. No matter what the manufacturers say. Thrust SU-30SM ~ 1,0 at normal.
    1. Evgeniy46
      Evgeniy46 20 August 2013 13: 30 New
      +3
      But this "fighter-bomber" is a good set of UR BB - P-73, P-27, P-77. Not for nothing that his old designation for export as Su-32FN (Fighter Navy - marine fighter)
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 20 August 2013 14: 09 New
        +2
        If they will use something other than brides, the entire Air Force leadership must be under the tribunal.
        And so IMHO Great front-line bomber.
      2. Prishtina
        Prishtina 20 August 2013 20: 10 New
        0
        look at his capabilities radar ... he is not a tenant. on 3 sq.m 100-120km winked
        the same Europeans have 1-2 meters ..
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 20 August 2013 20: 50 New
          0
          the same Europeans have 1-2 meters ..

          Which specifically, let me ask?
    2. tungus
      tungus 20 August 2013 13: 36 New
      14
      Quote: Prishtina
      Thrust in normal m ~ 0,71 leaves no chance for this sort of fighter-bomber in an air battle.

      True? You tell this to the Americans. Their F-35A has a thrust-weight ratio of 0,74. And F-35C -0,7.
      However, the Americans are not shy about presenting this device with a fifth-generation fighter-bomber.
      Su-34 is a replacement for Su-24, i.e. essentially a front-line bomber. Impact machine sharpened for work on the ground. The machine is able to fend for itself in aerial combat, but this is still not its profile. But you do not expect, for example, an attack aircraft victories in maneuvering aerial combat over fighters? so why are you waiting for these victories from the bomber?
      1. Prishtina
        Prishtina 20 August 2013 19: 56 New
        +4
        Yes .. I wanted their Fu-35s ... they have much more serious cars, even earlier ones ... and they are just much better than the Fu-35s according to the LTX and as pure "hawks". Where did you see that my opponent put fu-35?
      2. Prishtina
        Prishtina 20 August 2013 19: 58 New
        0
        Answer the simple question: what can the Su-34 and what cannot the Su-30SM? and vice versa? winked
        I do not compare with us .. I compare Russian options and see that there is a more interesting and universal option.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 20 August 2013 20: 42 New
          +1
          Well, let's open the wiki we all love.
          Sioux 30SM
          Designed to control group combat actions of fighters in solving the problems of gaining air supremacy, ensuring combat operations of other branches of aviation, covering ground troops and objects, destroying airborne assault forces, as well as for conducting air reconnaissance and destruction of ground or surface targets.
          Su-34
          It was intended, first of all, to destroy ground and surface targets, including small and mobile ones, both in tactical and operational depths of the enemy, in any weather and climate conditions, day and night.

          I hope you saw the difference?
    3. Su24
      Su24 20 August 2013 14: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: Prishtina
      Again, as for me, it’s better to remove the armor ... thus increasing the radius or load. And the aircraft itself will be more squat. Thrust in normal m ~ 0,71 leaves no chance for this sort of fighter-bomber in an air battle. No matter what the manufacturers say. Thrust SU-30SM ~ 1,0 at normal.


      But his armor is not tank, there will be no fundamental change in mass if it is removed.
      1. Prishtina
        Prishtina 20 August 2013 19: 59 New
        +1
        Well, 3 tons in aviation .. it does not spit 2 meters from the balcony. take an interest in specialized forums .. how to fight for each kilogram in weight LA
        1. evil hamster
          evil hamster 21 August 2013 01: 55 New
          +2
          OH and with armor perfectly without straining takes off with full refueling while it can carry 10500 loads if it is necessary.
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    5. Suhov
      Suhov 20 August 2013 23: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: Prishtina
      as for me, it’s better to remove the armor ...

      as well as weapons
      and you get a dove of peace ...
    6. evil hamster
      evil hamster 21 August 2013 01: 51 New
      +1
      1.
      Quote: Prishtina
      like a fighter-bomber
      the pichalka is that the Su 34 is like a front-line bomber and this is like different things.
      2.
      Quote: Prishtina
      Thrust in normal m ~ 0,71 leaves no chance

      Quote: Prishtina
      Thrust SU-30SM ~ 1,0 at normal

      Everything is wonderful, only suddenly the normal take-off Su30SM / MKI - 24900, which, as it were, hints to us that there are 6 tons of weapons and fuel aboard - air load P73 steam air and 4 pieces P27 or P77 and that’s all !!! But the normal take-off Su-34 is 38200, which, as it hints at 16 tons of weapons and fuel on the brtu. If Che maxed Su 30CM / MKI - 34500, and Su34 - 45000
  13. Mikhail Topor
    Mikhail Topor 20 August 2013 12: 49 New
    +6
    Quote: Prishtina
    Again, as for me, it’s better to remove the armor ...

    from the song "Swifts arrived" (about the Su-25 pilots, I highly recommend who I have not seen yet. Easily searched on the you-pipe)
    "... I'm like a mouse in a tin can, on which MO-LOT-COM !!!!"

    I don’t think that the pilot with such ease will refuse the armor in favor of range, maneuverability or anything ... he is sitting there in the cockpit, they are shooting at him from all types of weapons, armor is not superfluous in his situation.
  14. awg75
    awg75 20 August 2013 13: 02 New
    +3
    just a magnificent plane - both in terms of characteristics and beauty !!! GLORY TO RUSSIA!!!
  15. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 20 August 2013 13: 04 New
    +3
    In the primer, the first for ab Shagol or again in Baltimore
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 20 August 2013 14: 52 New
      0
      I asked a question, but instead of answering you are cons
    2. Su24
      Su24 20 August 2013 14: 59 New
      +1
      In fact, I did not understand why you set the cons)))
      1. sir.jonn
        sir.jonn 20 August 2013 19: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: Su24
        In fact, I did not understand why you set the cons))

        Many forum users poke pluses and minuses as children.
        We neutralize another's stupidity Ivan. + !!!
  16. HAM
    HAM 20 August 2013 13: 25 New
    0
    Guys who know, explain what coloring of numbers "red", "blue", etc. means.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2013 13: 49 New
      +3
      Belonging to the air base / part.
      1. HAM
        HAM 20 August 2013 13: 58 New
        +1
        Thanks, got it.
    2. individual
      individual 20 August 2013 13: 56 New
      +1
      Yes, everything is simple.
      To distinguish between teams in a tank biathlon. lol
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 20 August 2013 14: 10 New
        +1
        To distinguish between teams in a tank biathlon.

        Well, yes ... by the way, something about air darts is not heard. Do not take root?
    3. V. Tarasyan
      V. Tarasyan 20 August 2013 17: 54 New
      0
      This is so that multi-digit side numbers do not enter.
  17. guran
    guran 20 August 2013 13: 39 New
    +2
    There is also the Su-25, "armored riders", also the potential is good. No wonder they resumed production at the Ulan-Ude aircraft factory. Inexpensive, effective attack aircraft.
  18. leon-iv
    leon-iv 20 August 2013 14: 12 New
    0
    he’s right
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2013 14: 31 New
      +3
      Call a bomber armed to the teeth with a little face ... I think it can only in our country. drinks
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 20 August 2013 14: 40 New
        +8
        But this video reminded me
  19. mirag2
    mirag2 20 August 2013 14: 43 New
    0
    And does anyone know what the new project is with a triangular wing?
  20. Vtel
    Vtel 20 August 2013 14: 47 New
    0
    It turned out to be a good fighting duckling - as they say, chickens are considered in the fall, and autumn is on the nose.
  21. engineer74
    engineer74 20 August 2013 15: 07 New
    +1
    The news is positive! good good good
    But our craving for window dressing is inextinguishable, well, why the heck it was to roll out the unpainted board! ?? smile
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 20 August 2013 21: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: engineer74
      But our craving for window dressing is inextinguishable, well, why the heck it was to roll out the unpainted board! ??


      In the "paint" or without, but they already are and will be !!!
  22. denson06
    denson06 20 August 2013 15: 26 New
    -1
    You can order as many as you like, friends .. every year .. the question is when will they be built .. the question is still in production capacities .. Tolerant, everything will be fine!
  23. andru_007
    andru_007 20 August 2013 16: 29 New
    +1
    Quote: Apollon
    Quote: klimpopov
    Still pictures of "painted."

    Su-34 board number 23 red, 2013



    Su-34 board number 10 red, 2013

    cool coloring !!!
  24. Prishtina
    Prishtina 20 August 2013 16: 29 New
    -1
    Well then .. minuses poked .. and not one sane argument against, did not hear. If I'm wrong about something .. argue ?! If there are no arguments, but my opinion on the Su-34 is not in the trend, and in response only the minuses are flying_ so I was right winked
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2013 17: 03 New
      +3
      And you were asked what kind of PAK SHA is silent ...
      The armor (as in the 34th) is a very controversial element for this type of aircraft.

      And they answered you kind of ... and you did not give arguments in favor of the controversy of the armor.
      From my point of view, it would be much more interesting to replace the SU-24 with the SU-30SM in a 1 to 1 ratio.

      What is more interesting? Su-30SM is not a bomber, it is primarily a fighter. Why replace a car of one type with another?
      1. Prishtina
        Prishtina 20 August 2013 20: 04 New
        -1
        PAK SHA ..- perspective aviation complex of attack aircraft winked We are more interested .. there will be no questions.
        The second time I ask .. what can the Su-34 which cannot the Su-30SM ???! when you find the answer let me know soldier
        1. PLO
          PLO 20 August 2013 20: 43 New
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          The second time I ask .. what can the Su-34 which cannot the Su-30SM ???! when you find the answer let me know

          it can carry one and a half times more payload over a greater distance.
        2. Wedmak
          Wedmak 20 August 2013 20: 44 New
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          The second time I answer, since you do not see the difference. Su-30SM - work mainly by air, Su-34 - work mainly by land!
        3. Refund_SSSR
          Refund_SSSR 21 August 2013 04: 19 New
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          Quote: Prishtina
          The second time I ask .. what can the Su-34 which cannot the Su-30SM ???! when you find the answer let me know

          This is why you think the Su-34 has such a strange nose shape ??? O_o
          Hint: The answer is somewhere in this direction ... laughing
  25. darksoul
    darksoul 20 August 2013 18: 02 New
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    Two more ducklings, .... class smile
  26. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 20 August 2013 18: 03 New
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    As far as I heard, the Su-30s are going to be used as a replacement for naval 24oks. It seems like it is better sharpened for anti-ship weapons. If anyone can confirm this, I will be grateful.
    1. Prishtina
      Prishtina 20 August 2013 20: 07 New
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      Su-30 are going to use as a replacement for naval 24ok.

      to the point .. exactly. because the uniqueness of 34 matches lies in only one thing - the maintenance of the pants of the Chkalovites. Absolutely the same tasks as the 34th will be solved by 30 and 35, and even more so T-50.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 20 August 2013 20: 45 New
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        Absolutely the same tasks as the 34th will be solved by 30 and 35, and even more so T-50.

        Not true.
  27. NURLAT
    NURLAT 20 August 2013 18: 24 New
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    More is needed!
  28. novobranets
    novobranets 20 August 2013 18: 27 New
    +1
    Beauty plus power, impressive to a puppy's delight. wassat
  29. armandos
    armandos 20 August 2013 18: 45 New
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    Yes, great bird. And remember there was still such a SU-47 Golden Eagle. The same handsome, but there seemed to be problems with the wings, but the pilots say that it was very maneuverable.
    1. sir.jonn
      sir.jonn 20 August 2013 20: 29 New
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      Quote: pav-pon1972
      Yes, great bird. And remember there was still such a SU-47 Golden Eagle. The same handsome, but there seemed to be problems with the wings, but the pilots say that it was very maneuverable.


      How do you forget? Such a beauty. But the goal of the work so far cannot be unambiguously assessed, according to some experts and PR analysts. According to the rest, the development of structural elements of the 5th generation fighter.
      In my opinion, both are combined. And also so that time and money, or not to spend, or vice versa? In short, everything is not clear.
  30. voliador
    voliador 20 August 2013 19: 09 New
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    More new equipment in the troops!
  31. pav-pon1972
    pav-pon1972 20 August 2013 19: 15 New
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    What, say ... Just Handsome !!!
  32. erased
    erased 20 August 2013 20: 40 New
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    Not enough of them yet. And you need hundreds of five. To replace the Su-24.
    1. figwam
      figwam 20 August 2013 20: 56 New
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      Do not forget that one SU-34, maybe more than one su-24, so the replacement will not be one to one.
  33. Dyukha Siberian
    Dyukha Siberian 20 August 2013 21: 23 New
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    beautiful and powerful equipment in Russia! that we could always and hopefully will be proud in the future !!!!
  34. The Indian Joe
    The Indian Joe 20 August 2013 22: 09 New
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    The plane is handsome, but it is still few, very few. Although, in order to roll out some kind of Georgia, four dozen will be more than enough, but standing up against NATO will not be enough. But I’m sure that the troops will receive the entire amount that is planned to be purchased.
  35. Irokez
    Irokez 20 August 2013 22: 15 New
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    Well, you guys can’t compare the difference between the Su-30, Su-34 and Su-35.
    The Su-34 is a long-range bomber, as well as a short-range one for all occasions.
    Distance flight:
    Su-34 4500 km
    Su-30 3500
    Su 35-3600
    Maximum takeoff weight:
    Su-34 44000 kg.
    Su-30 33000
    Su-35 34000
    It was not too sick to carry an extra 10 tons under the belly and in the belly itself. Therefore, both the ceiling and speed are lower and the performance characteristics of the fighter as a fighter are certainly not super-duper. But I think with the Wu-35 in the battle can compete in the near.
    Plus minus in TTX on different sites is not very different.
    And of course, first of all, the replacement of the Su-24, which the Geyropov-holopopov are very afraid of.
    http://s018.radikal.ru/i525/1308/0c/d75c4940a9e1.jpg
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2013 22: 18 New
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      Plus minus in TTX is not very different.

      But how the insides vary ...
  36. waisson
    waisson 20 August 2013 22: 20 New
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    definitely happy at least something but the troops
  37. waisson
    waisson 20 August 2013 22: 25 New
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    Russia will supply 12 more Su-30-MK2 multi-functional fighters to Vietnam, a military diplomatic source told Interfax-AVN on Tuesday.
    "The contract for the supply of 12 Su-30MK2 fighters to Vietnam was signed last week. It provides for the supply of not only aircraft, but also technical property," the agency’s source said. He recalled that this is the third contract for Sukhoi fighters. The two previous ones for the supply of eight and twelve aircraft were successfully completed.
    "Aircraft under the new contract will be delivered in three batches of four aircraft in 2014-2015," the source said.
    He declined to name the value of the contract, citing the fact that it was a trade secret. According to experts, the value of this contract is at least $ 600 million.
    Rosoboronexport and Sukhoi did not comment on the signing of a new arms contract with Vietnam, but noted that this country is an important partner of Russia in the military-technical cooperation.
    Su-30MK2 is a multi-functional fighter with wide combat capabilities. It is capable of hitting not only aerial, but also ground and sea targets with high efficiency. Its arsenal includes guided missiles and adjustable bombs.
    The aircraft is equipped with a modern set of on-board equipment, new communication and navigation systems, equipment operation control and crew actions. The REP equipment provides automatic target designation of X-31P anti-radar missiles introduced into the armament of the aircraft.
    Since then, over 130 Su-30MK2 fighters have been delivered to China, Indonesia, Vietnam and Venezuela.
  38. Irokez
    Irokez 20 August 2013 22: 25 New
    +1
    Quote: Wedmak
    But how the insides vary ...

    And from the back like a wasp, an electronic sting - is that so for visibility?
    http://s019.radikal.ru/i605/1308/7b/3cc2b4b795a4.jpg
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2013 22: 31 New
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      What kind of electronic sting?
      The back is only a parachute and APU. And at the ends of the wings, individual electronic warfare equipment.
  39. waisson
    waisson 20 August 2013 22: 28 New
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    The troops of the Southern Military District (Southeast Military District) continue to receive new aircraft. From the aerodrome of the manufacturer in Ulan-Ude to the air base of the army aviation of the Southern Military District, deployed in the Stavropol Territory, 4 upgraded Mi-8AMTSh helicopters fly. Until the end of the year, it is planned to receive another 6 helicopters of this modification.
    Since the beginning of the intensive re-equipment of parts of the army aviation of the Southern Military District, attack helicopters Ka-52 Alligator, Mi-28N Night Hunter, Mi-35M, special helicopters Mi-8MTPR-1, Mi-8AMTSh, Mi-8MTV5, Mi-8MTPR , military transport helicopter Mi-26.
    Until the end of this year, more than 30 modernized and new Su-27SM3, Su-30M2, Su-25SM2, and Su-34 aircraft will go into service with front-line aviation. Last year, more than 50 units of modern aviation equipment were received and put into operation in the Southern Military District.
  40. Irokez
    Irokez 20 August 2013 22: 41 New
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    This electronic warfare equipment should be very good. And for a parachute, it’s too big a tailbone. The child was infa that a very sickly electronic warhead with brains in 34-ke is.
    http://i017.radikal.ru/1308/18/fb3e4abf8e45.jpg
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 20 August 2013 22: 47 New
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      ...............................
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 20 August 2013 22: 47 New
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        A lot of space in the tail compartment is occupied by the gas turbine APU, which allows starting engines on the ground without the use of ground equipment. This increases autonomy and expands the number of airfields based. All Su-34s produced since 2011 are equipped with APU. Many holes in the lower part of the beam - places for setting false thermal targets
  41. Irokez
    Irokez 20 August 2013 22: 54 New
    +1
    I will not argue with the General Staff, but the infa was very long-standing and in those days the ideas were different from a special modification of the jammer and electronic intelligence to very specific ones.
    By the way, how to insert pictures on my site does not work Nitsche although they are inserted on others.
  42. Paul
    Paul 20 August 2013 23: 55 New
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    the plane is handsome, and in principle, as in all the latest developments of Sukhoi and MIG smile
    my opinion for multifunctionality is not much to chase! for get Swiss knife Victorinox winked or worse no for me so corkscrew separately scissors separately knife separately
    Yes, it takes up more space but also copes with its task an order of magnitude better good
  43. harrymur
    harrymur 21 August 2013 00: 30 New
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    on a military photo he was already given a name-hel duck, a devil’s duck or a devil’s duck)) for me so a devil’s duckling, that’s it)))
  44. Vincente
    Vincente 21 August 2013 07: 22 New
    +1
    A worthy replacement for the su-24 smile
  45. kkenkkk
    kkenkkk 21 August 2013 09: 17 New
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  46. sivuch
    sivuch 15 October 2013 10: 38 New
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    But his armor is not tank, there will be no fundamental change in mass if it is removed.
    ================================================== ==
    Korbka is included in the power circuit of the aircraft. Therefore
    1.It can not be removed
    2. She adds extra weight no more than 400 kg.