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"Russia can in many respects yield to us." A number of Kyrgyz politicians demanded “kun-ransom” from Moscow for the royal sweepers of 1916 of the year

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“My idea is picked up at the level of the masses”, the Kyrgyz politician Nurlan Motuev told the newspaper VIEW. Previously, a number of public organizations joined his calls to seek compensation from Russia for the events of 1916. However, local Cossack chieftains and experts doubt that Bishkek will decide to officially raise the issue of recognizing those events as genocide.


On Monday, Nurlan Motuev, one of the leaders of the party “The People’s Patriotic Movement of Kyrgyzstan”, called on the authorities to demand compensation from Russia for the events of 1916 of the year. He is confident that over time his initiative will be realized.

“Whatever idea we put forward in Kyrgyzstan, they immediately come to life. For example, the idea of ​​the first Kyrgyz revolution, our People's Patriotic Movement has advanced since 2000 year. In 2005, it came to life, Bakiyev took advantage of its benefits, ”Motuev told VIEW, reminding also that he was the first to call for the closure of the American base at Manas Airport in 2008.

Motuev recalled that it was he, who was also the first, two years ago, who had proposed recognizing the 1916 event of the year as genocide and demanding compensation from Russia in 100 billion dollars. However, he recognizes that compensation may be less - and will consist in writing off the debts of Bishkek, as well as in modernizing the Kyrgyz infrastructure.

“At first, my words were received with incomprehension, but in two years, probably, it reached the people. And once the idea rises, it will still come true. Initially, they were even perceived with condemnation, and now my idea is picked up at the level of the masses. Russia will have to seek some kind of consensus. Russia can in many respects yield to us: forgive debts, build a lot of things, ”the politician believes.

According to Motuev, the idea of ​​compensation for the 1916 events of the year is also secretly supported by the country's leadership, but does not voice it publicly.

“At the government level, they are afraid to say it because of political correctness or fear of Putin. But silently they support us, ”noted Motuev, assuring that, according to the results of opinion polls, which were held a year ago, 80% of respondents supported the idea of ​​paying compensation,“ or that Kyrgyz migrants are given special status in Russia. ”

Newspaper VIEW could not find reports of such a survey.

Motuev is convinced that such appeals will not reinforce Russophobic attitudes in society, because the Kyrgyz people “are mostly kind and decent, quiet, hard-working people”. “Many Russians, of which there are up to 5% in the republic, have dual citizenship. I noticed that they use Kyrgyzstan as a heavenly resort place. Mostly they live in Russia, and here they come to rest. If there is a reaction, it will not be to the local Russians, but to the Russian government, ”Motuev believes.

Recall that last week several social and political organizations of Kyrgyzstan adopted a resolution on the “massacre” of 1916. As the site 24.kg reported with reference to the newspaper Kyrgyz Tuusu, activists appealed to the president, the prime minister and the speaker of the parliament.

In the document, in particular, the events of the year 1916 called "massacre" and "genocide of Tsarist Russia against the Kyrgyz people." Activists are also calling for “raising the issue of compensation (kun-ransom) by the Russian Federation to Kyrgyzstan for innocently sacrificed (murdered) ancestors in the 1916 National Liberation Uprising of the year.”

The appeal was signed by the parties “Ui kuruuchular”, “Asaba”, “Kairan el”, “El Uchun”, public associations “Uluu Kurultay”, “Kyrgyz Chorolor”, “AKOS”, “Kyrk kyz”, movements “Lustration” and “Ashar” »And other organizations. However, none of them is represented in parliament.

Ataman: It was a marauder riot

The army foreman of the Semirechensky army, Alexander Yurasov, considers those events to be a marauding rebellion.

“It has already been proved that this insurrection was initiated from abroad - from Urumqi (city in China) - the main opponent of Russia in the war - by the German General Staff. The insurgency was provoked. The actions of the Cossacks were fully justified. It was the First World War. The same Cossacks were called up for military service. In the villages and in many villages of Russian immigrants only women, old people and children remained. Especially young people began to rob crops, villages and stanitsa, to kill civilians. As a result, the Cossacks were forced to intervene and suppress the insurrection, ”Yurasov told the newspaper VIEW.

According to Yurasov, nationalist organizations demand compensation, “which have long been said that Russia was an occupier, brutally exploited the local population and behaved worse than the British colonialists in India”.

At the same time, Yurasov is sure that in the leadership of Kyrgyzstan there are also those who share similar views.

# {ussr} “Without complicity with the authorities, this would not have happened,” the chieftain is sure. - An exhibition for the 100 anniversary of the uprising opened in Kyrgyzstan. There are no official accusations against Russia, but everything is filed in the same light that the mercilessly exploited Kyrgyz population was forced to go to the uprising. The local population was sent not to the front, but to work in the rear. And they refused, the more it was not free work. Would we, for example, be able to win the Great Patriotic War if there were not a strong rear? ”

Note that, according to the laws of the Russian Empire, the Christian peoples of the empire formed the basis of the tsarist army. Muslims (the Caucasus and Central Asia), including the Kirghiz-Kaysaks (Kazakhs) and the Kyrgyz, were not called in, and instead of conscription paid a special tax.

However, during the First World War, the royal government in June 1916 ordered to mobilize in Semirechye the indigenous male population from the ages from 19 to 43 years "to work on defensive structures and military communications in the area of ​​the army in the field." Riots broke out. In response, the tsarist administration called in punitive troops, including the Cossacks, and formed volunteer punitive detachments.

It is known that dozens of villages were burned, a large number of local residents rebelled were killed, more than 300 thousand Kazakhs and Kyrgyz fled to neighboring China. Several hundred rebels were sentenced to death, penal servitude and prison. The call was still thwarted, the government managed to send only about 123 thousand people for rear works instead of the planned 480 thousand.

In Soviet historiography, the uprising was considered a manifestation of the class struggle and the national liberation movement.

Recall, the Day of Remembrance of the Victims of the National Liberation Uprising 1916 of the year by the decision of the Parliament is celebrated in Kyrgyzstan on the first Friday of August. After the parliament in April 2008 made this decision, the Russian Foreign Ministry issued a statement in which it reminded that “we are talking about the victims of violent suppression of mass demonstrations against the tsarist regime on the territory of present-day Kyrgyzstan, during which thousands of Russians were killed settlers. "

The statement was kept in a delicate spirit. "In no way trying to interfere in the internal affairs of an independent and sovereign Kyrgyzstan, we would like to note that, in our opinion, making the public theme of 1916 of the year painful and sensitive to the public theme is counterproductive for the current friendly relations between our countries and peoples," Smolensk was noted at that time. square.

The word "genocide" has depreciated

Professor Alexei Malashenko of MGIMO, a member of the scientific council of the Carnegie Moscow Center, is convinced that the authors of the resolution need “fame and popularity”, in fact the appearance of the document will not change anything.

“In Kyrgyzstan now there is a tendency against extremely close cooperation with Russia within the framework of the Customs Union, so they found it possible to speak this way. But this does not mean anything and will not be supported. Local politicians will laugh there, ”Malashenko told the VIEW newspaper, adding that the word“ genocide ”is now devalued, they are called events when, for example, dozens of people die.

According to him, the organizations involved in the adoption of the resolution "are so exotic that no one will pay attention to this." “Such sentiments in society as a whole are not common. If they have any phobias, then against Uzbeks, for example. And who remembers that there was in 1916 year ... Only historians know this, ”said Malashenko.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 20 August 2013 10: 43 New
    33
    I read the number in 100 of billions of dollars and did not read further, I remembered the morons from the Baltic laughing
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 20 August 2013 10: 45 New
      20
      Today the trend, however, is to beg for compensation from Russia for anything.
      1. Airman
        Airman 20 August 2013 10: 49 New
        30
        Quote: klimpopov
        Today the trend, however, is to beg for compensation from Russia for anything.

        And they will not choke? The best compensation - ALL Kyrgyz to be expelled from RUSSIA. And then they shut up, dying of hunger.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 August 2013 11: 20 New
          13
          Quote: Povshnik
          The best compensation - ALL Kyrgyz to be expelled from RUSSIA

          They then Motueva to tear rags laughing
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 20 August 2013 11: 30 New
            +5
            Yes there is only a match to bring between north and south, they themselves will explode.
      2. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 20 August 2013 11: 16 New
        +5
        Quote: klimpopov
        Today the trend, however, is to beg for compensation from Russia for anything.

        From a dead donkey their ears (s)
      3. Tersky
        Tersky 20 August 2013 11: 28 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I read the number in 100 of billions of dollars and did not read further, I remembered the morons from the Baltic

        Quote: klimpopov
        Today the trend, however, is to beg for compensation from Russia for anything.

        Причем очередь неимоверная, для порядка в очереди надо "пятнистую плесень" привлечь, он всех желающих талонами обеспечит.. Маразм не имеющий границ, "компенсаций" у России не требовал разве что мой кот, поздновато на свет появился.. Все, кто даже на кипяток не заработал, а хочет жрать ананасы с рябчиками, обратили свои взоры к России и придумывают всякую ахинею, подсчитывают какие-то ущербы от оккупации, голодоморов, холодоморов, газоморов и пр., чтобы урвать нахаляву денег, желательно побольше и почаще! САМОЕ ИНТЕРЕСНОЕ, ЧТО
        EVERYONE REQUIRES BUT NO ONE WILL GET ANYTHING !!!
      4. Airman
        Airman 20 August 2013 11: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: klimpopov
        Today the trend, however, is to beg for compensation from Russia for anything.

        Yes, the Russian proverb is right: if you substitute your finger, they will bite off your hand. The impudence of Asians has no borders, then Russia cannot live without Kazakhs, then serve the Kyrgyz.
      5. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 20 August 2013 21: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: klimpopov
        Today the trend, however, is to beg for compensation from Russia for anything.


        This is a global trend. The Greeks won’t demand from the Germans, hooh, set aside, Ukrainian nationalists want us for the famine ... a freebie is a very attractive thing ...

        The truth is that if you set a precedent, then an endless series of lawsuits will begin against everyone for whom you have to give money. Nobody will do it naturally.
    2. Constantine
      Constantine 20 August 2013 10: 47 New
      10
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I read the number in 100 of billions of dollars and did not read further, I remembered the morons from the Baltic


      So I got the feeling that the authors of this opus graduated from Vilnius University wassat
    3. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 20 August 2013 11: 19 New
      +8
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I read the number in 100 of billions of dollars and did not read further, I remembered the morons from the Baltic


      But this is still divine! Here are some Armenians in Turkey, it turns out that they require 300 trillion bucks! Xnumx trillion fellow
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 August 2013 11: 24 New
        +6
        Quote: ayyildiz
        300 trillion

        300 trillion what But I know a greater number of quinvigintillion. There are even more zeros, as many as whole 78 laughing
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 20 August 2013 11: 37 New
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          There are even more zeros, as many as 78

          So send these 78 zeros to the Kirghiz ... Let them have fun in full and for everything ... laughing
        2. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 20 August 2013 11: 56 New
          +5
          Cost of 10 rubles!
        3. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 20 August 2013 17: 14 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          But I know a greater number of quinvigintillion.

          I am proud of you!!! hi wassat
        4. builder
          builder 20 August 2013 21: 24 New
          +2
          And I know the number of ohreniards wink there are zeros in general
          1. antiaircrafter
            antiaircrafter 20 August 2013 23: 02 New
            +2
            Quote: stroitel
            there are zeros in general

            Если считать до "до"уя", когда остановишься на "ну его на "уй" - это только половина.
        5. Andrey Skokovsky
          Andrey Skokovsky 25 August 2013 13: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: ayyildiz
          300 trillion

          300 trillion what But I know a greater number of quinvigintillion. There are even more zeros, as many as whole 78 laughing


          Do not tell the Armenians .... upset.

          tell the Balts, let them hang for a while.

          the Kyrgyz ... I don’t know, they’ll give them tea or grab it maybe you’ve retrained somewhere and then you’ll be lucky to have tea (I like the 2-th var more)
      2. Andrey Skokovsky
        Andrey Skokovsky 25 August 2013 13: 03 New
        0
        Quote: ayyildiz
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I read the number in 100 of billions of dollars and did not read further, I remembered the morons from the Baltic


        But this is still divine! Here are some Armenians in Turkey, it turns out that they require 300 trillion bucks! Xnumx trillion fellow


        просто - "много бабла" , в Армении и Киргизии это разные суммы.
    4. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 20 August 2013 11: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I read the number in 100 of billions of dollars and did not read further, I remembered the morons from the Baltic


      hehe! Similarly! I propose to send them with such requests much further. Thank you should say for the good years from 1917 to 91.
    5. Sandov
      Sandov 20 August 2013 12: 04 New
      +3
      How different flies flew ... either on gov - but, or on honey. You don’t even understand these Natsik.
  2. RBLip
    RBLip 20 August 2013 10: 47 New
    +6
    ... the organizations participating in the adoption of the resolution are "so exotic that no one will pay attention to it."
    было бы интересно узнать, кто эти "организации" спонсирует. впрочем, ответ на поверхности.
  3. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 20 August 2013 10: 52 New
    24
    Yes, nivapros! .. But only after Bishkek fully (up to the last cent, to the last penny, a penniless and a Kyrgyz tugrik !!!) compensates for the costs that Russia threw into Kyrgyzstan in Soviet and post-Soviet times ... Yes , and pre-revolutionary by the way, too! ..
    But until this happened and did not happen, then let the gentlemen of the Kyrgyz Republic sit quietly behind a rag and don’t even think about shining and giving a voice ...
    1. washi
      washi 20 August 2013 12: 44 New
      +4
      At the same time explaining that they called the Kirghiz, under the king, all the nomads south of the Urals. The Soviet government did not correctly divide them into Kazakhs and Kyrgyz. Therefore, today's Kyrgyzstan should be the territory of Kazakhstan. Part of the territory should belong to the Uzbeks, and they have already given away the Chinese part.
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 20 August 2013 14: 07 New
        +2
        The right word, namesake, I'm not too big a specialist in the history of the peoples of Central and Central Asia ...
        However, I must note that such creeps must be stopped in the bud right away. And nip hard and categorically. Otherwise, they’ll climb on your head, and they’ll hang your legs ...

        And yet I would really like to know the opinion on this topic from colleagues on the site from independent Kyrgyzstan ...
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 20 August 2013 14: 26 New
          +2
          And yet I would really like to know the opinion on this topic from colleagues on the site from independent Kyrgyzstan ...

          Recently I got news from there. Independent Kyrgyzstanis mostly go to work in an independent Kazakhstan. But basically they live modestly, they do not encroach on the Kyrgyz empire.
  4. a52333
    a52333 20 August 2013 10: 53 New
    18
    Can the counterclaim be rolled out for the participation of the Kyrgyz in the Mongol-Tatar invasions? Given interest for 500 years, you can draw a figure there. wink
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 20 August 2013 10: 54 New
      +8
      Quote: a52333
      Can the counterclaim be rolled out for the participation of the Kyrgyz in the Mongol-Tatar invasions? Given interest for 500 years, you can draw a figure there.


      There you can take all of Kyrgyzstan for debts wassat And Mongolia trailer wassat
      1. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 20 August 2013 11: 18 New
        +9
        Quote: Constantine
        There you can take all of Kyrgyzstan for debts

        Current without population !!
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 August 2013 11: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: Constantine

        There you can take all of Kyrgyzstan for debts

        Even with Mongolia they will not have change laughing
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2013 11: 17 New
      +1
      And then they were already? In my opinion, in those days, the Kyrgyz were not even heard of.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 August 2013 11: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: Wedmak
        And then they were already?

        Yes there were, janitors in Moscow worked laughing
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 20 August 2013 12: 11 New
          0
          Yes, no wandered in the steppes, there was no statehood. The great Mughals (not Mongols) subordinated all the oncoming tribes. By the way, and the Tatars fell under their hot hand. But this is the closest Russian ethnic group. I do not mean (ukrov and Belarusians-this is generally one people with the Russians).
      2. a52333
        a52333 20 August 2013 12: 12 New
        0
        They were, participated, and have not changed since (in terms of lifestyle and weighted average IQ)
        The Tatar army before the army of Padishah Muhammad - reign him a hundred and twenty years! - it’s all the same that a wisp of smoke on a dark night! .. True, along the way, during a campaign to the west, all the steppe vagabonds joined the Tatar army: the Uyghurs, and Altaians, and Kyrgyz, and Kara-Chinese, so the Tatar army Genghis Khan rapidly increased and swelled ...
    3. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 20 August 2013 16: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: a52333
      a52333 RU Today, 10: 53

      Can the counterclaim be rolled out for the participation of the Kyrgyz in the Mongol-Tatar invasions? Given the interest for 500 years, you can draw a figure there. wink

      That's it, as well as for bullying, robbery, murder and violence against Russian people after the collapse of the union in the difficult 90s. Maybe instead of creating privileged conditions for the Kyrgyz, do they put them out of the country and ban them from entering ???
      Although I personally am against such decisions, but at times I want to throw something like that and send everyone to hell. But emotions are a poor helper in politics, in clarifying relations between countries, and in ordinary private life.
      We discussed the topic of Kyrgyzstan and the Kyrgyz Republic not so long ago in an article on the elimination of the US Manas air base, so we don’t want to repeat in more detail.
  5. Denis
    Denis 20 August 2013 10: 55 New
    +6
    80% of respondents supported the idea of ​​compensation payments “Or that Kyrgyz migrants be given special status in Russia”
    The root of all problems is highlighted.
    Guys are being fooled, where so many individuals, and so all the privileges in obtaining citizenship. And those in vain are given-they started screaming that little
    the Kyrgyz were not called up, but instead of military service they paid a special tax.
    However, during the First World War, in June 1916, the tsarist government ordered the indigenous male population aged 19 to 43 to be mobilized in Semirechye "for the construction of defensive structures and military communications in the area of ​​the army"
    They already had a special status, and as a result
    Riots broke out
    Easy to get off, the war then went
    So they go for all the compensation ... to the Kaiser
    1. Su24
      Su24 20 August 2013 11: 40 New
      +4
      Rebet, these are not migrants who want compensation, but the marginal freakish nationalists there. Do not take it seriously, just Hilary Clinton when she said that the United States will take all measures to prevent the revival of Russia.
  6. strange and pretty meaningless
    strange and pretty meaningless 20 August 2013 10: 55 New
    +4
    Yeah ... There have always been enough people willing to milk the Russian budget. From just a little where it thundered - immediately to Russia under the skirt. Such is the childhood of nations.
  7. dimon-media
    dimon-media 20 August 2013 11: 00 New
    +8
    Do Russians go there to relax? Kyrgyzstan paradise resort place ?! Shredded there, chtoli? Another politician set off with his mind and decided to fight with Russia. Oh, and the State Department Motueva bought it. With 100 lard bucks you don’t crack crack, my dear? Is it not enough for you that the USSR in your country has set up for 74 years? You owe us, but not us .. so I would go to this day and graze sheep in their villages.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 August 2013 11: 31 New
      +6
      Quote: dimon-media
      Do Russians go there to relax?

      except as bays.
      Quote: dimon-media
      Kyrgyzstan paradise resort place ?!

      And then wink
      Quote: dimon-media
      Shredded there, chtoli?

      Well yes winked
      Quote: dimon-media
      With 100 lard bucks you don’t crack crack, my dear?

      No, it won’t crack, there is harya .. I will give those lol Here it is in the photo. In short, the people, you will see this janitor on the street, give him the dollyar that he fled to the greatest Kyrgyzstan laughing
      1. dimon-media
        dimon-media 20 August 2013 11: 43 New
        +2
        well, andlaughing )) hangover not obdri .. well, everyone understood)))
      2. Che
        Che 20 August 2013 20: 02 New
        0
        The roof went completely, what’s going on with people I don’t understand. Thirst for profit or something more. Maybe his task is to shit all Eurasians.
      3. builder
        builder 20 August 2013 21: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        No, it won’t crack, there is kharya .. I’ll give them This is it in the photo. In short, people, you will see this janitor on the street, give him the dollyar that he fled to the greatest Kyrgyzstan

        Alexander be careful there - I thought I would die laughing laughing
  8. Wedmak
    Wedmak 20 August 2013 11: 05 New
    12
    Motuev recalled that it was he - also the first - two years ago who proposed to recognize the events of 1916 of the year as genocide and to demand compensation in Russia of 100 billion dollars

    But the face will not crack?
    When you kicked the Russians out in the 90 and 2000, when you beat yourself in the chest, how smart you are and now you can do everything, but you Russians, bring down your homeland, you don’t need anything here, you didn’t think that everything would turn out like that , Yes? And now they decided to cut some money, because the number of sheep is rapidly declining, but do you need to eat? So they found a reason.
    Ruined production, work is simply not where. With their own hydroelectric power stations, 4 light hours a day, they could not develop tourism (or they could! Nature was awesome!)
    They forgot how much the Russians gave you when they came to your yurts. Well, soon you will return to these very yurts.
  9. boot
    boot 20 August 2013 11: 07 New
    +5
    It is interesting to see the methodology for calculating the amount of compensation. Or 100 billion. - the maximum number available to the understanding of this figure.
  10. d1m1drol
    d1m1drol 20 August 2013 11: 11 New
    +5
    It is necessary to clean them again .. and drive them back to the Stone Age, where they were before the USSR ....
    1. Aboriginal
      Aboriginal 20 August 2013 11: 33 New
      -2
      Of course, any claims are ridiculous - it’s easier to tear your throat than try to work))), but about the Stone Age, all Russia was there before the USSR. Excluding a couple of percent of the population.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 20 August 2013 11: 41 New
        +4
        but about the stone age, all of Russia was there before the USSR

        No ... Before the USSR, the Russian Empire was a very strong and progressive country. Even his fleet was, can you imagine ?? !!!
        1. d1m1drol
          d1m1drol 20 August 2013 16: 29 New
          0
          Yeah yeah i heard too hi
    2. builder
      builder 20 August 2013 21: 29 New
      0
      Yes, they are already in the Stone Age.
  11. avt
    avt 20 August 2013 11: 11 New
    +5
    The fact that our universal friends are pulling out this nonsense, there is no doubt, this should be taken seriously, but without fanaticism. The best reaction to these ganglings would be some manipulation of migrant workers, explaining to them why and from whom all this is happening to them, well, if they don’t understand and clarify the current historical truth to dreamers of the gambling house, then it’s possible and that come up with something else. But on the brakes it should not be let down.
  12. Sinbad
    Sinbad 20 August 2013 11: 15 New
    +2
    First, let all the funds invested in the republic be returned during the years of Soviet power, and for all the rest. And to calculate, with interest, how much the Russian people lost, forced to flee from there, having abandoned everything. If you approach from their position, you can count a lot. But to fools everything is numb. Let them out. Close the border, see if the Americans will feed them.
  13. Airman
    Airman 20 August 2013 11: 17 New
    +2
    It’s just that they felt the weakness of the Russian authorities in solving migration policy. If they expel all migrants from Russia, they themselves will crawl to our knees to ask for union.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2013 11: 32 New
      0
      they themselves will crawl to our knees to ask for union.

      We take it, only with the full annexation of the territory. There it is quite possible to arrange an all-Russian health resort.
  14. UV58
    UV58 20 August 2013 11: 21 New
    +3
    beggars beg
  15. paul1969
    paul1969 20 August 2013 11: 22 New
    +2
    fledged chocks
  16. vadimN
    vadimN 20 August 2013 11: 23 New
    +3
    Россия как "оккупант" начиная с того же 1916 года и почти по момент краха СССР активно поднимала экономический и образовательный уровень народов республик Средней Азии, в том числе и киргизов. Посчитали эти "жаждущие компенсаций" сколько "оккупанты" построили заводов, школ, больниц, дорог? Посчитали они, сколько киргизов училось в институтах России? Посчитали они, сколько средств вложил СССР в развитие их республики, которая до советской власти (и еще долго после ее прихода) имела в обычае ж.о.п.у. (извините за мой французский) полой халата подтирать...
    Шли бы они лесом за своими "компенсациями". Они должны России во сто крат больше за то, что жили в СССР как люди, а не так как жили их предки сто-двести лет назад.
  17. UV58
    UV58 20 August 2013 11: 25 New
    +2


    походу продумывают сценарий "зима не будет-3" )))
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 20 August 2013 15: 56 New
      +2
      Somewhere I already heard such nonsense, reminds the theory of great ukrov. Kyrgyz even have a sample of Adam's DNA, where did they get it? I couldn’t even watch it to the end, my brain could explode. These people give lectures in a madhouse.
      1. d1m1drol
        d1m1drol 20 August 2013 16: 33 New
        +2
        Their grass is notable! picky! took them forever =)
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 20 August 2013 16: 44 New
          +1
          Well, growing at every angle, why not use ....
  18. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 20 August 2013 11: 30 New
    +4
    ... as well as the modernization of the Kyrgyz infrastructure

    The Russians survived as best they could, but now it turns out that the gut itself is thin smile . Nothing, gentlemen of the Kyrgyz, these are flowers.
  19. Iraclius
    Iraclius 20 August 2013 11: 31 New
    +3
    Insanity grew stronger ... 100 billion dollars to them. Have you tried to work? They say it helps.
  20. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 20 August 2013 11: 34 New
    +3
    The army foreman of the Semirechensky army, Alexander Yurasov, considers those events to be a marauding rebellion.

    Bravo chieftain! Anyway !!!
  21. Leader
    Leader 20 August 2013 11: 37 New
    +3
    1. Почему таких, как этот Мотуев, российские власти не объявляют моментально "персоной нон грата"? Сразу многократно поубавилось бы число обличителей!
    2. Many of Russia's troubles are that it puts on the same level as any barbarians and savages — it sits at its own table, tries to talk to them as equals, is afraid to offend inadvertently ...
    Наверное, здесь тот случай, когда "хорошая война лучше худого мира". Все остальные страны, господствующие в мире, уничтожали своих противников без особых эмоций (Великобритания и США, например), обирали свои колонии до нитки. Одни мы всё сюсюкаем и бубним что-то про братство и уважение.
    Да пошли в ж... все "соседи" вместе с Украиной! Исключение - только Беларусь! Где тут ближайшее отделение аналога национал-социалисткой партии? Задолбали уже со своими претензиями... Подождите, мы вам всем ещё покажем, где раки зимуют! Россия - для россиян!
    My ancestors gathered a huge country where there is everything that is necessary for life! Why do we need you? - without you it would be better!
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2013 11: 45 New
      +1
      1. Почему таких, как этот Мотуев, российские власти не объявляют моментально "персоной нон грата"? Сразу многократно поубавилось бы число обличителей!

      Here's another run for every yewer, and translate the paper. So let us explore the whole forest ...
      2. Many of Russia's troubles are that it puts on the same level as any barbarians and savages — it sits at its own table, tries to talk to them as equals, is afraid to offend inadvertently ...

      The trouble ... maybe. But no one will ever accuse Russia of genocide and the glory of the conqueror somehow does not suit us.
      destroyed their opponents without special emotions (Great Britain and the USA, for example), robbed their colonies to the skin.

      Why take a bad example? Well, they robbed their colonies, destroyed the opponents, was it better? No.
  22. Horn
    Horn 20 August 2013 11: 41 New
    0
    Forward to those who ruled before the age of 17 ... Otherwise, a lawsuit on behalf of an indefinite circle of people who lived in the territory of present-day Kyrgyzstan until the Yenisei Kirghiz migrated there.
  23. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 20 August 2013 11: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: dimon-media
    Do Russians go there to relax?

    except as bays.
    Quote: dimon-media
    Kyrgyzstan paradise resort place ?!

    And then wink
    Quote: dimon-media
    Shredded there, chtoli?

    Well yes winked
    Quote: dimon-media
    With 100 lard bucks you don’t crack crack, my dear?

    No, it won’t crack, there is harya .. I will give those lol Here it is in the photo. In short, the people, you will see this janitor on the street, give him the dollyar that he fled to the greatest Kyrgyzstan laughing

    The look at the Kyrgyz in the photo is similar to the look of Serdyukov from today's article. The Kyrgyz do not want to work, and they’re thinking where to cut the dibs in an easy way!
  24. Nick_1972
    Nick_1972 20 August 2013 11: 44 New
    +8
    Вспоминается почему-то старый советский анекдот. На экзамене в МГИМО профессор просит студента подготовить проект ответа на ноту главы африканского государства, в территориальных водах которого проходящая советская подводная лодка распугала рыбу. Студент готовит ответ, отдает профессору. Тот читает, ставит пятерку и в заключении говорит: "Только хотелось обратить ваше внимание на небольшие грамматические ошибки. "Нах.й" пишется вместе, а "голожопые обезьяны" - раздельно".
  25. SvetoRus
    SvetoRus 20 August 2013 11: 50 New
    +3
    A number of politicians in Kyrgyzstan demanded from Moscow "kun-ransom" for the royal cleansing of 1916. $ 100 billion compensation !? Hmm .. you need to think what , maybe it will be cheaper to repeat stripping: - a number of Kyrgyz politicians!
  26. sir.jonn
    sir.jonn 20 August 2013 11: 53 New
    +2
    It is possible that soon Germany and Japan will demand compensation from Russia for damage caused during World War II. Insanity and more.
  27. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 20 August 2013 11: 53 New
    0
    The Taliban will soon demand compensation.
  28. Leader
    Leader 20 August 2013 12: 00 New
    0
    Quote: Wedmak
    1. Почему таких, как этот Мотуев, российские власти не объявляют моментально "персоной нон грата"? Сразу многократно поубавилось бы число обличителей!

    Here's another run for every yewer, and translate the paper. So let us explore the whole forest ...
    2. Many of Russia's troubles are that it puts on the same level as any barbarians and savages — it sits at its own table, tries to talk to them as equals, is afraid to offend inadvertently ...

    The trouble ... maybe. But no one will ever accuse Russia of genocide and the glory of the conqueror somehow does not suit us.
    destroyed their opponents without special emotions (Great Britain and the USA, for example), robbed their colonies to the skin.

    Why take a bad example? Well, they robbed their colonies, destroyed the opponents, was it better? No.

    1. No need to run. The name, date of birth and decision are dictated by phone to the Border Administration. All! In an hour, all branches of the country's checkpoint will receive this information.
    2. Россию в геноциде только ленивый не обвинял. Одни х..хлы со своим "голодомором" чего стОят, остальных и вспоминать не буду - все отметились. Так что, потуги быть справедливыми - бессмысленны.
    3. А почему это "плохой пример"? Никто на них не тявкает, диких компенсаций не требует - некому особо, да и страшновато. И живут лучше - потому как не тратили свои деньги и силы на подьём уровня развития дикарей, а только вывозили, вывозили, вывозили...
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2013 12: 13 New
      0
      No need to run. The name, date of birth and decision are dictated by phone to the Border Administration.

      But is it necessary? Well, he sits at his place in Kyrgyzstan, something is grinding his tongue there. Who is he, in fact, to make a rustle because of him?
      Россию в геноциде только ленивый не обвинял. Одни со своим "голодомором" чего стОят, остальных и вспоминать не буду - все отметились.

      All were noted, but no one could prove it. Don't bother ...
      So, attempts to be fair are pointless.

      Do you propose to become unfair? Hang out and conquer all the snoops on us? At the same time, we’ll get hold of territory ... I’m afraid then there will be no one else to trust on this planet. And then certainly the Stone Age will not keep itself waiting long.
      А почему это "плохой пример"? Никто на них не тявкает, диких компенсаций не требует - некому особо, да и страшновато.

      Because while strong - do not tramp. Weak - torn into rags. Shakalya flock and it will seem more civilized.
      And they live better - because they did not spend their money and energy on raising the level of development of savages, but only exported, exported, exported ...

      It's better?? You call it better ??? In times of colonial conquest, Europe lived in the dermis head over heels! People were burned at the stake and hung up posing as a sight! A thin layer of people lived luxuriously, the rest were considered almost cattle! But they looted constantly ... There was not a year in Europe, so that there would be no war or uprising. The United States is also not far removed from its penises ... slavery flourished, the local population was exterminated and driven into a reservation (where they still live to this day). This is better???? Better what?
  29. tomket
    tomket 20 August 2013 12: 00 New
    -1
    recalls the story of the Drevlyans, they went twice for tribute, as a result, the people murmured, but what, the main culprit is Nikolai the Second executed, what other questions can there be?
  30. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 20 August 2013 12: 09 New
    +2
    So Poland, too, was going to drive us a lawsuit for 100 billion dollars. For Katyn. But it did not fail in the ECHR, there is no evidence. This Motuev is just a grantosos. Sucks from those that the Poles - from the Nuggosax.
  31. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 20 August 2013 12: 11 New
    +1
    What else do they need, but not on their chest .... so that the sea smells? These savages have already completely ridden themselves.
  32. awg75
    awg75 20 August 2013 13: 20 New
    +1
    need to show them immediately BIG RUSSIAN KUN-KUKISH
    1. Denis
      Denis 20 August 2013 14: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: awg75
      KUN-KUKISH
      No, another meaning similar word, also of three letters
  33. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 20 August 2013 14: 13 New
    +3
    Mirlan Asakeev:
    The traditions and mentality of the Kyrgyz are the best in the world!


    Well, right - the toilet is right behind the yurt, a cool tradition.

    Kyrgyz people carry Adam’s Y chromosome!

    Am I missing something? When did the Kirghiz manage to take Adam’s DNA ???

    Russia, Germany and America cannot find a further development path

    We must go for advice to this little boy, who is Mirlan Asakeev ... And where to go ???
  34. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 20 August 2013 14: 18 New
    +3
    But! laughing Этот мотуев - типичный халявщик и прожектер. Предлагаю в ответ вынести из России всех представителей "великой суверенной кыргызопы" в пределы их родного государства и в Россию вообще не пускать. Сразу поймут, что "резня" 1916 года - это мелочи по сравнению с невозможностью работать в России.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2013 14: 36 New
      0
      This motuev is a typical freeloader and spotlight.

      By the way, let's introduce him to Navalny? And send this cute couple to the USA. Stopudovo one is stealing something, and the second will demand reparation from the USA for ... I don’t know for what, but I’ll think of it.
  35. Sochi
    Sochi 20 August 2013 14: 40 New
    +1
    Well, Duc ... the freebie ended with the collapse of the union, now we have to live at our own expense. But there’s a bummer, well, I don’t want to work, and it doesn’t work ... And there are no personnel, before there were Russians, but who could have dumped them. So they are looking again to cut the dough for free.
  36. Zhenya
    Zhenya 20 August 2013 14: 53 New
    +2
    All the Kirghiz home! And immediately this issue will be resolved, right away.
  37. Vorchun
    Vorchun 20 August 2013 15: 08 New
    +1
    In my childhood (I grew up in Kyrgyzstan) I heard a story: during the 1916 uprising, the Kyrgyz dug a canal so that the Issyk-Kul waters would go into the Chu River, passing by and washed away everything in the Chui Valley. They knew how to dig, but with geodesy, something did not work out and the water did not go into the river.
    And maybe they didn’t have time, although in the 60s, the narrator showed something similar to a ditch between a lake and a river.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2013 15: 16 New
      0
      the Kyrgyz dug a canal so that the waters of Issyk-Kul would go into the Chu River, passing nearby and washed away everything in the Chuy Valley.

      Dreamers .... in yurt school certainly did not study well.
  38. july
    july 20 August 2013 15: 44 New
    +1
    But when in the cinema round idiots are shown, then usually everyone understands that this is a movie. But such a movie ... You can’t imagine it!
  39. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 20 August 2013 16: 43 New
    +2
    97 лет они учились выговаривать слово ГЕНОЦИД и теперь можно предьявить нам за него, вот и начало сценария для фильма Михалкову,где он может сыграть главную роль "Главный Баран летописец как свидетель геноцида киргизского народа"
  40. shinobi
    shinobi 20 August 2013 17: 56 New
    +1
    From a dead donkey ears to him and others like him!
  41. psv910
    psv910 20 August 2013 17: 59 New
    +1
    “Whatever idea we put forward in Kyrgyzstan, they immediately come to life

    With such talents, and in the poor of Kyrgyzstan, he vegetates ... Old Hottabych is some kind, not otherwise, only young.
    what exactly was he the first to call in 2008

    what exactly is he - also the first - two years ago

    Yes, with such an ability to be the first one he needs to run a hundred-meter race, or a marophone.
  42. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 20 August 2013 21: 33 New
    +1
    Ничего нового не происходит,как смотрело правительство России сквозь пальцы на проделки своих "союзников",так все и продолжается.А нахрена нужны такие союзники?!Поставить эту дичь на место-как два пальца об асфальт,но правительство с каким-то маниакальным упорством продолжает свой курс,а куда он ведет-по боку.Всех этих ребят нужно оставить сам на сам,никакой безвозмездной помощи,никаких списаний долгов-свободны,как муха в туалете.Границы на замок,в Россию-только по визе,помочь переехать в Россию русским,что там остались и пусть древние и великие народы строят свое светлое будущее в отдельно взятой сатрапии.
  43. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 20 August 2013 21: 57 New
    +1
    Я думаю выдворение всех чу..., простите, "представителей бывших братских народов" и визовый режим с ними - вот нормальная реакция на желания этих "маленьких, но гордых народов". Хотели избавиться от пьяного старшего брата??? Так что ж вы ползете сюда как тараканы, как зараза; чешите в свои свободные степи и аулы.
    ... oh, dreams, dreams :-(
  44. Spike
    Spike 20 August 2013 23: 00 New
    +1
    FMS and Onishchenko as a cure for Kyrgyz moronity. laughing
  45. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 20 August 2013 23: 19 New
    +1
    not a question one hundred so one hundred. I invite the Kirghiz to turn to the immediate culprits of those events - the now-living august Empress and her son Gaucher (whom someone considers the heir to the throne) they live in the city of Paris, so good afternoon!