Cooperation with Vietnam. Money and politics

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Over the past years, exports of Russian weapons and military equipment have been constantly growing. Different countries regularly choose Russian military products and enter into multimillion-dollar contracts. Especially pleasant is the fact that the list of buyers is constantly updated with new states that have not previously bought weapon and equipment from Russia. However, it should be noted that the number of such countries and the volume of their contracts are relatively small. The main revenues of the Russian defense industry are associated with several countries that regularly procure Russian armaments and equipment. For example, India and China, according to the Stockholm Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), over the past ten years (from 2002 to 2012 a year) have acquired Russian weapons and equipment worth over 21 and 19 billion US dollars, respectively.

Fifth place in terms of purchases of Russian weapons in the same period ranked Vietnam. In recent years, this country has been actively re-equipping its army, and at the same time it prefers Russian armaments and equipment. Over the past ten years, the Vietnamese military have concluded several contracts with Russian manufacturers with a total volume of 2687 million dollars. The financially most interesting year was 2011, during which Vietnam ordered Russian equipment for 1,3 billion dollars. Despite the volatility of financial performance for a given year (for example, in 2007, the cost of Russian-Vietnamese contracts amounted to only two million dollars), military-technical cooperation between Russia and Vietnam continues and, according to Vietnamese military leaders, will not stop in the future .

Cooperation with Vietnam. Money and politics
Distribution of supplies to Vietnam for producing countries. SIPRI data

Distribution of supplies to Vietnam according to the classes of weapons and equipment. SIPRI data


Considering the detailed information on the procurement of weapons and military equipment by Vietnam, it is easy to see how successful Russian products are. The second place in terms of supplies to Vietnam over the past ten years has been Ukraine, which has sold weapons and equipment to 84 million dollars. For comparison, it is worthwhile to cite the general indicators of all countries that supply weapons to Vietnam, with the exception of Russia. For ten years, Germany, Israel, Canada, Poland, Romania, Ukraine and the Czech Republic sold Vietnam only military products for 163 million. Such a difference in the volume of contracts clearly shows the technical, economic and political views of the Vietnamese military leadership.

One of the most profitable for Russia cooperation articles with Vietnam is the supply of combat aircraft. The first contract, in accordance with which the Russian defense industry handed over five aircraft Su-27SK and Su-27UBK to the Vietnamese military, was signed back in the year 1994 and executed over the next two years. At the end of the first contract, at the end of 1996, another one was concluded, implying the delivery of six more aircraft of the same models. Over the past ten years, Vietnam has ordered multi-role fighters from Russia three times. So, in 2003, he acquired four Su-30MK2В aircraft, and in 2008 and 2010, he increased the number of such fighters by 8 and 12 units, respectively.




In the very near future, another contract may be signed for the supply of aircraft to Vietnam. Currently, Russia and China are negotiating the sale of X-NUMX Su-24 fighters, and such a deal could have a corresponding effect on the military-political situation in Southeast Asia. Following China, Vietnam will also have to upgrade its air force to maintain an acceptable balance of power. Therefore, soon after the signing of the Russian-Chinese contract, a similar agreement with Vietnam may appear.

The second important area of ​​military-technical cooperation between Russia and Vietnam is the surface and submarine fleet. Prior to 2016, Russia will build and transfer to the Vietnamese naval sailors six diesel-electric submarines of the 636.1 Varshavyanka project. Two of these submarines are currently being tested, the third will be launched shortly.




In 2011, two patrol ships of the 11661 “Cheetah” project built in Russia were accepted into the Vietnamese Navy. At the end of the same year, the Vietnamese military signed a new contract, according to which two more ships of this type will be handed over to 2016 and 2017. The construction of new guard will begin in the coming months.

Earlier, in 2007, Vietnam received the first two missile boats of Project 12418 Lightning. Subsequently, an agreement was signed, according to which the construction of these boats is carried out at Vietnamese enterprises. Construction is under the supervision of Russian organizations that developed the project and built boats on it. At the end of the current 2013, it is planned to transfer the fleet The first boat built by Vietnam on its own. Currently, the command of the naval forces of the Asian state intends to bring the number of boats of the project 12418 to ten. In the future, it is possible to conclude new contracts.

Cooperation in the field of technology for the naval forces is not limited to ships, submarines and boats. Over the coming months, an integrated simulator for training submarine crews will be commissioned in Vietnam. This complex was manufactured by NPO Aurora and is intended for training crews for Russian-made submarines to be supplied to Vietnam. In addition to the simulator for the submarine crews, the Vietnamese Navy will receive two similar complexes designed for training the crews of the Gepard patrol boats and the Molniya missile boats.

The volume of Vietnamese investments in recent years in defense directly indicates that the official Hanoi has good reasons for such an economic policy. Perhaps the main motive for strengthening the army is the difficult situation around several islands of the South China Sea. These land areas are subject to territorial disputes between Vietnam, China and the Philippines. In addition, a difficult situation is observed with respect to some sections of the continental plume, which, it is claimed, may have large mineral reserves. In this case, Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and other states of Southeast Asia can join the disputes over the territories.

Thus, in the near future, the issue of mining in the region may turn into, at a minimum, diplomatic disputes. In this case, the development of the armed forces is an additional argument that supports the position of a country. If the disputes around the shelf and the islands really bring the situation to an armed conflict or open preconditions to it, a powerful army of any of the states can force opponents to return to the negotiating table. Asian countries understand this and are actively developing their armed forces. The SIPRI information speaks most clearly about the pace of such development. According to Stockholm analysts, over the five years from 2008 to 2012, the volume of purchases of weapons and military equipment by the states of Southeast Asia increased by almost 170 percent compared to 2003-2007 over the years.

Increasing the defense expenses of Asian states is in a certain sense useful for Russia. A lot of countries in this region are purchasing Russian military products, and in the light of the constant increase in costs, such cooperation is becoming more profitable every year. For example, the Vietnamese commanders in recent years have repeatedly talked about strengthening and developing military-technical cooperation with Russia. The result of these statements at the present time are several long-term contracts, according to which the Vietnamese military will receive new weapons and equipment of various classes in the coming years.

Despite the relatively small volume of contracts (especially in comparison with India and China), Vietnam is an important partner of Russia in military-technical cooperation. If current trends continue, the Vietnamese armed forces will be able to increase the pace of purchases of Russian weapons and military equipment. At the same time, Vietnam is unlikely to look for new sellers. This assumption is supported by his extensive experience of cooperation with our country, as well as the modern composition of the fleet of vehicles of the army, navy and air force. As a result, cooperating with Vietnam, Russia receives both economic benefits and a reliable ally in Southeast Asia.


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  1. +9
    20 August 2013 08: 27
    At the same time, Vietnam is unlikely to seek new sellers.

    Do not reassure yourself, if you rely only on this - someday they will definitely start looking for new sellers.

    We need to keep track of time, develop new ones, and also actively conduct diplomatic work in the right direction.
  2. Kovrovsky
    +9
    20 August 2013 09: 06
    Our friendship with Vietnam has been tested by war, and it is worth a lot!
    1. +5
      20 August 2013 14: 49
      and not one, after the Americans, the Chinaeas also stuck in there (and also got into the melon)
    2. +7
      20 August 2013 16: 03
      Well, we freed the Bulgarians from the Turkish yoke, so what? World War I against Russia, World War II against Russia, they immediately gave slack to NATO, I hope that the Vietnamese are not such prostitutes as the Bulgarians, but the best guarantee of friendship is strong Russia
      1. +5
        20 August 2013 17: 43
        Exactly, not prostitutes, Vietnamese uncompromising soldiers, they do not trade their homeland. Only in the last century, the French, Americans, Chinese, and our compatriots were convinced of this, fighting alongside them. Thank God the rebuilders did not manage to lower our reputation there below the baseboard, and their hands did not reach. There, business projects in the field of oil and energy also go off with a bang, why change their proven partners for years, they understand this.
      2. StolzSS
        +1
        20 August 2013 19: 14
        The Vietnamese mentality is very different from the Bulgarian one. So if our leaders act competently, then in the case of the Pale, the Viet Cong will, as before, will spare their lives to defend the "lenso" hi
      3. +1
        21 August 2013 00: 05
        Quote: lazy
        Well, we freed the Bulgarians from the Turkish yoke, so what? World War I against Russia, World War II against Russia, they immediately gave slack to NATO, I hope that the Vietnamese are not such prostitutes as the Bulgarians, but the best guarantee of friendship is strong Russia


        Atipa was beaten by the Turks so that only the Bulgarians could be freed ??? At the expense of NATO - we would have been accepted too, but then the Amerkos would not have an enemy, but the Bulgarians stupidly bought, and at the same time they accepted, and if they try to get out, they just gouge them with tomahawks and tear them to pieces.

        Regarding Vietnam, I’ll explain something. Vietnam does not buy weapons from us because it is super and not because we are friends forever. They buy from those who will be guaranteed by the enemy of the United States and NATO, that is, from those who pursue the correct foreign policy, the policy of non-interference in the internal politics of sovereign states. The American, in turn, did not care about all the rules and laws, in bulk, and will do only what is beneficial to him in the current moment. To do business with amers at the state level is like fighting shit - you can win but you will be all in shit. And ours are still trying to keep their word and will be in the future, so Vietnam is doing business with us so far, until it screwed up ...
        1. +1
          21 August 2013 14: 37
          Quote: Geisenberg
          Vietnam does not buy weapons from us because it is super and not because we are friends forever.

          - Well, super or not super, but the American in the melon was well received with Soviet weapons. At the same time, the amers had newer weapons at that time - and helicopters were used for the first time, the famous Phantoms were already in full use ... So your prosaic explanation, like, "they buy not because they are good, but because there is simply no one else." inexpensive, because, to put it mildly, not true. Of course, we are discussing Russian weapons here, we are not discussing at a very amateurish level, and therefore we know that Soviet (now Russian) weapons have their weaknesses and shortcomings, but THIS DOESN'T AT ALL mean that these weapons are BAD. Quite the opposite, Russian weapons are one of the best deals in the world. And in terms of price-quality ratio, it is generally the best. That is, some types of weapons can be found better, but very expensive. For example, the same "Spike" is a little better than the "Cornet" - well, that's what the experts say. But the price of Spike's shot is THREE (!) Times more expensive than the Cornet laughing We will fill enemy tanks with 999 gold! laughing So the Vietnamese fellows, quickly realized what was happening and really know what they are buying! In contrast to the same Saudis, or here are potential opponents of the Vietnamese - Singaporeans. Those intentionally bought only the most expensive, mainly from amers. And there will be a conflict - and so what? Yes, the Vietnamese Singaporeans will tear like a tusik heating pad. Because they know how to fight and because they are armed with the best weapons that they have already experienced in the business and which have been well studied.
    3. +1
      20 August 2013 18: 33
      Naturally -will you buy here when China is under your nose

      while there will be tension with China over the disputed territories, you want Vietnam you want to have to arm yourself with modern weapons, especially through the Navy
      Of course, China cannot keep up with the pace of armaments, but Vietnam is trying to at least somehow minimize threats

      moreover, they buy not only from us, but also in Europe and Belarus
      here in the photo recently Vietnam received the first radars from Belorussia-Vostok e

      Yes, 40% of the current armament is American-inherited after the fall of Saigon
  3. avt
    +4
    20 August 2013 09: 39
    Quote: Kovrovsky
    Our friendship with Vietnam has been tested by war, and it is worth a lot!

    Well, you should not rely on this, of course, we have certain positions because of this, but the Vietnamese are very pragmatic guys and they will not let us rest on old laurels.
  4. Arabist
    +12
    20 August 2013 09: 43
    Of course it’s not worth it, there are some good examples. March 3, 2013 Bulgaria celebrated the 135th anniversary of the liberation from the Turks. Russian weapons and Russian blood. And the Bulgarian brothers are forever grateful to us for this. Perhaps that is why in the entire history of Bulgaria they did not shy from participating in any anti-Russian coalition, ending with the current NATO.
    1. +2
      20 August 2013 14: 55
      Quote: Arabist
      And the Bulgarian brothers are forever grateful to us for this. This is probably why in the entire history of Bulgaria they did not shy from participating in any anti-Russian coalition

      sad, sad, but true !! recourse
      1. +2
        20 August 2013 15: 00
        Quote: old man54
        And the Bulgarian brothers are forever grateful to us for this. This is probably why in the entire history of Bulgaria they did not shy from participating in any anti-Russian coalition

        that the truth is the truth, their neighbors taught for all the guests to lie down ....
    2. +1
      20 August 2013 17: 47
      By the way, they did not evade, but they did not raise weapons against us, and in the Second World War they did not even declare war on us, the Bulgarian government motivated this by the fact that "the people will not understand", so that the rulers are definitely traitors, since the Habsburgs reigned there, but the people did not shoot at ours, even in Hungary they fought together with ours, and there the meat grinder was comparable to Stalingrad, if not better in technical terms.
  5. smiths xnumx
    +6
    20 August 2013 10: 34
    Not everything is as simple as we would like. If Vietnam used to buy weapons entirely from us, now it is no longer. So in 2005, Vietnam purchased 480 T-72M1 from the Poles, 1 copy of the An-28 PZL M28 Skytruck. He is actively developing cooperation with Israel, for example, the Israeli modernization of 300 Vietnamese T-54 / T-55, the purchase of 200 Israeli LMM "Ramta", negotiations are underway on the purchase of 4 Dutch Sigma corvettes. There are also talks about the acquisition by Vietnam from the United States of 6 P-3 Orion patrol aircraft, and from Canada 6 DHC-6 Twin Otters, 2 of which are already being tested in Vietnam. 2 Eurocopter EC225 Super Puma patrol helicopters and 8 transport Aérospatiale Super Puma were purchased from the French. The Spanish purchased 3 CASA C-212 Aviocar patrol aircraft for the naval police. However, for now, Vietnam has ordered another project 11661E ("Gepard-3.9") from us, which should be laid in September this year, with a delivery date of 2016 and 2017, respectively, in addition to two previously purchased and 6 diesel-electric submarines of project 636.1. the first of which HQ-182 Hà Nội ("Hanoi") was laid down in 2010, launched on 28.08.2012 and is expected to be accepted in November this year, the second HQ-183 H28.09.2011 Chí Minh ("Ho Chi Minh") was laid down on 28.12.2012 year, and launched on December 184, 2, the laying of the third HQ-300 Ha Phong ("Haiphong") is expected at the end of August. we also purchased 20 S-400 divisions and 8 Igla MANPADS launchers with 130 missiles for them. Vietnam ordered to buy XNUMX Yak-XNUMXs. Best regards! hi
    Vietnamese patrol ship HQ-011 Đinh Tiên Hoàng of project 11661E ("Gepard-3.9") and Chinese frigate Huangshan of project 054A. Gulf of Tonkin 20.06.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX
    1. +1
      20 August 2013 11: 38
      I will be like
      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977



      Ukraine will repair Vietnamese aircraft
      22 July 2013, 16: 35


      su27-10
      Ukroboronprom will repair Vietnamese military aircraft. Corresponding contracts were signed in Hanoi. So, according to the documents, Ukraine will conduct technical consultations and repair of AL-31F aircraft engines, which are used in Su-27 aircraft and its modifications.

      “Vietnam is a promising country for the production of the national defense industry complex. We will continue to strengthen the position of Ukraine and our national defense industry complex in the state market, ”said Sergey Gromov, Director General of Ukroboronprom during the negotiations.


      and yes who told me that in that region quiet and smooth))))

      The volume of Vietnamese investments in recent years in defense directly indicates that the official Hanoi has good reasons for such an economic policy. Perhaps the main motive for strengthening the army is the difficult situation around several islands of the South China Sea. These land areas are subject to territorial disputes between Vietnam, China and the Philippines. In addition, a difficult situation is observed with respect to some sections of the continental plume, which, it is claimed, may have large mineral reserves. In this case, Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and other states of Southeast Asia can join the disputes over the territories.
      1. smiths xnumx
        +5
        20 August 2013 11: 50
        Hurray, well, at least somewhere the military-industrial complex of "Nezalezhnaya" has found its application, I hope not like in Kazakhstan.
        Secondly, we discussed Thailand, which does not have COMMON BORDERS with China at all. And the fact that Kyat has eternal problems with Vietnam (they have been at war for centuries), so they even fought in 1979, is known even to a schoolboy. The Vietnamese even have a saying: "If you meet a Chinese and a cobra on the road. Kill the Chinese first, and then the cobra." And the Chinese have not forgotten the settlement of "huaqiao" in 1978. China has similar problems with the Philippines. Or the "eksperd" is going to dispute the fact that China considers Taiwan its "rebellious province" and regularly threatens it with a military invasion, although hands are still short.
        1. +1
          20 August 2013 11: 55
          Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
          Has no common borders with China

          Vietnam, China and the Philippines

          The Philippines also do not have common borders)))))
          Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
          then China considers Taiwan to be its "rebellious province"

          Quote: Kars
          In this case, Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and other countries of Southeast Asia can join disputes around the territories.

          Logic, try to start using it. You can also say that Malaysia has a common border with China. You will become.
          1. smiths xnumx
            +1
            20 August 2013 12: 21
            The map must be read "eksperd". The Philippines has problems with China because of the Paracel Islands (Spratly archipelago), the same problems with other countries:
            The Paracel Islands (Sisha in Chinese cartography, Hoangsha in the Vietnamese) are located in the South China Sea, 200 km southeast of the Chinese island of Hainan and 300 km east of the coast of Vietnam. The archipelago consists of 15 islands, as well as reefs and sandbanks located on the territory of 46 thousand square kilometers in a radius of about 100 km. Its length from west to east is 180 km, and from north to south - 170 km, the total area of ​​the islands is about 3 sq. Km. On the Vietnamese maps, the archipelago is considered as a whole, while on Chinese it is divided into two groups of islands - Amphitrite and Croissant.

            In November 2002, an agreement was signed between China, Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia and Taiwan, according to which the decision on the status of the disputed Paracel Islands and the Spratly archipelago was postponed until 2052, that is, for 50 years. And in March 2005, the oil companies of the PRC, Vietnam and the Philippines signed an agreement on joint exploration of hydrocarbon deposits on these islands. In a joint statement made after this, it was emphasized that these works "belong to a commercial project and are not related to territorial disputes." At the same time, the question of the territorial belonging of the Paracel Islands is periodically exacerbated.

            http://www.nbenegroup.com/territory/sisha.html
            ... Once again, I urge you to teach materiel and geography, it can be seen in the "nezalezhnaya2" school only the globe of Ukraine is studied.
            1. +4
              20 August 2013 13: 25
              smiths xnumx
              Your disrespectful attacks on the author are not entirely clear. This article is not a monograph, therefore it has the form of a general review, without a detailed analysis. It is also unclear why passages about Ukraine — is the author’s place of residence related to the topic of the article? Did he touch Russia at least with something?
              Put yourself in the place of Ukrainians - how would you like such arrivals, which have nothing to do with the information contained in the article, and the degree of its reliability.
              1. smiths xnumx
                +3
                20 August 2013 14: 35
                Dear smile, sorry, but
                Author Ryabov Cyril
                Kirill Ryabov has nickname Kars. My words were addressed to a certain Kars and to no one else. If I at least hurt the author of this article, I deeply apologize, because he really did not hurt either Russia or its citizens. As for Kars, on the branch about the disposal of T-64 in Ukraine, I suggested Kars to conduct the polemic correctly and politely, but he refused.
                Quote: Kars
                Quote: smiths xnumx
                Let's not get personal and lead the discussion correctly.
                And let's move on?

                Therefore, I communicate with him the way he wanted it.
                I am on this site, discussing and debating with many people, incl. and with SWEET_SIXTEEN, BigRiver, Karlsonn, Beck, and NEVER, I repeat to you, NEVER allowed any cases of rudeness to my opponent. And if a certain comrade, who imagines himself to be an "expert", thinks that he can offend me with impunity, what answer he or you are going to hear from me. look at other branches. Therefore, I apologize to you dear smile and the author of this article, if I caused you some insults. I have nothing to apologize to Kars. Yours faithfully! hi
                1. +2
                  20 August 2013 14: 55
                  smiths xnumx
                  Bliiiin, I'm sorry !!!! The fact is that Kars, in my opinion, is the only person. who blacklisted me (by the way, he didn’t understand why, because if I argued with him, then, unlike some, he really didn’t get on me :)))). Well, imagine, I see a series of your comments, one by one ... the comments do not indicate to whom they are addressed ..... so I read them and reread them ... it seems that you are addressing Ryabov specifically Kirill ...
                  Now everything is clear. My attitude to Kars is similar to yours.
                  In general, I apologize, I was not intelligent enough ... I also slammed the minus for you ... I will correct and will not be anymore! :)))
                  1. smiths xnumx
                    +1
                    20 August 2013 15: 56
                    Dear Vladimir, your apologies are accepted, it is very difficult to be polite, with people like Kars, no knowledge, no logic, only empty show-off, especially not confirmed by anything, having no arguments, he simply turns to insults. Recently, he began to arrange a "circus with horses" in general. Well, that's the way Show Must Go On is sung in the song. Yours faithfully! hi
                    1. +2
                      20 August 2013 17: 29
                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      and knowledge, not logic, some empty show-offs,

                      Why are you describing yourself?
                      1. smiths xnumx
                        -1
                        20 August 2013 17: 41
                        And here he is in person. nice to know that I did not have such an opinion about him. Nothing on the merits of the topic. To all members of the branch, except Kars, of course. Yours faithfully! hi
                      2. +1
                        20 August 2013 17: 54
                        Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                        And here he is in person. nice to know that I did not have such an opinion about him. Nothing on topic

                        And how did you think I mentioned me, I answered. And where does the topic come from? On the topic, I have already unsubscribed.
        2. +1
          20 August 2013 11: 58
          Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
          I hope not like in Kazakhstan.



          Ukraine and Kazakhstan plan to expand military-technical cooperation. The intention was confirmed during the fourth meeting of the Ukrainian-Kazakh intergovernmental commission on military-technical cooperation.

          Ukraine and Kazakhstan are preparing to increase military-technical cooperation (MTC), which was confirmed by the parties during the fourth meeting of the intergovernmental Ukrainian-Kazakh commission on military-technical cooperation held recently in Astana under the leadership of deputy ministers of the military departments of the countries, Oleinik Oleynyk and Sergiy Gromov, Interfax- Ukraine ”with reference to a source in the defense sector.

          According to a source, during the meeting they considered, among other things, the development of a bilateral military-technical cooperation in armored, aviation, naval and space spheres, as well as issues of interaction between special exporters, military-scientific organizations and military missions of countries.

          “During the meeting, Kazakh colleagues suggested that the Ukrainian side continue cooperation on the repair and modernization of armored vehicles in the interests of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan. Ukrainian defense enterprises have been invited to participate in tenders on repair, modernization, supply of aircraft and air defense equipment being prepared by the Kazakh side for 2014, ”the agency’s source said.

          “The parties also agreed to continue cooperation in the supply of weapons and military equipment for ships that are being built on the territory of Kazakhstan,” he said.

          According to the source, “the Kazakh side also highlighted the importance of cooperation in the design and construction of rocket-artillery ships, patrol boats and auxiliary fleet ships in Ukraine, the supply of composite floating docks, moorings and mobile bases of Ukrainian production, as well as the creation of naval infrastructure and ship repair bases in the interests of the Republic of Kazakhstan. ”

          In recent years, the filling of military-technical cooperation between Ukraine and Kazakhstan includes, inter alia, deliveries of Ukrainian air defense systems to Kazakhstan, repair of the Kazakh military transport and military aircraft, joint modernization programs of Kazakh heavy armored vehicles at the facilities of Semey Engineering JSC (Semey, Kazakhstan).

          In 2012, the state concern Ukroboronprom and JSC NK Kazakhstan Engineering signed an agreement on the joint production of new Ukrainian BTR-4 in Kazakhstan. The cost of a promising cooperation program is estimated at about 150 million dollars.

          According to Ukrainian military experts, in the coming years, Kazakhstan may become the third largest purchaser of Ukrainian weapons in the regional arms market of the CIS countries after Russia and Azerbaijan
          1. smiths xnumx
            +2
            20 August 2013 12: 25
            On July 23, 2013, the specialized inter-district court of Alma-Ata (Kazakhstan) sentenced Major General Almaz Asenov, former head of the main arms department of the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan, to 11 years of imprisonment under strict regime, confiscation of property, and deprivation of military rank for receiving a bribe of $ 200 from two employees of the Ukrainian state-owned Ukrspetsexport - the head of the First Regional Department, Alexander Shkolyarenko and his deputy, Alexander Khrulev. Shkolyarenko and Khrulev were sentenced to six years in strict regime and confiscation of property. The trial was closed. Ukrspetsexport and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine issued statements that they will seek the extradition of convicted company employees to their homeland.

            http://newsoboz.org/proisshestviya/sotrudnikam-ukrspetseksporta-v-kazahstane-vyn
            esen-prigovor-24072013121600
            Great collaboration!
            1. +3
              20 August 2013 12: 28
              Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
              Great collaboration!

              It may not be like Russia can crush political authority, block borders, start trade wars, give loans to smoke their weapons, or forgive old debts.
              1. smiths xnumx
                +1
                20 August 2013 12: 34
                "God does not give a horn to a thirsty cow" or "Halva, halva, halva, no matter how much you say in your mouth, it will not become sweeter"
                1. +2
                  20 August 2013 13: 42
                  Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                  "God does not give a horn to a thirsty cow" or "Halva, halva, halva, no matter how much you say in your mouth, it will not become sweeter"

                  What did you mean to say? That you are not a vigorous cow?
                2. albatross
                  +3
                  20 August 2013 13: 48
                  Kuznetsov 1977 RU Today, 12:34 ↑ New
                  "God does not give a horn to a thirsty cow" or "Halva, halva, halva, no matter how much you say in your mouth, it will not become sweeter"

                  Yes, really ... I look and wonder how our brothers-Ukrainians, in the heat of independence, would not start shooting at us. And, it’s already with the Chinese and with the Vietnamese that they bring down prices for us, if only to annoy, instead of negotiating and acting together. No, they have pride. But pride will not bring to good, it blunts the brain and destroys everything. Something like this...
                  1. +1
                    20 August 2013 19: 00
                    Quote: albatross
                    instead of agreeing and acting together.

                    Agree with you. As with An-70.
              2. A spacer
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                21 August 2013 00: 11
                Quote: Kars
                Not everyone can, like Russia, crush political authority

                That's for sure - some give their political authority, and not only it ...
                Quote: Kars
                give loans for smoking weapons

                ukro-toad - it is the greenest.
                Quote: Kars
                forgive old debts

                Generosity - that is, it is. And you?
                1. +1
                  21 August 2013 00: 17
                  Quote: Simpleton
                  That's for sure - some give their political authority, and not only it ...

                  Well, how much can you blame us on the delivery of nuclear weapons.
                  Quote: Simpleton
                  ukro-toad - it is the greenest.

                  not the RF greener, they envy even small successes.
                  Quote: Simpleton
                  Generosity - that is, it is. And you?

                  Yeah, velmkodushiya --- write off 10 billions to Iraq, obliging him in return to buy weapons from Russia for 4.3 billion. Very generous.
                  1. A spacer
                    +1
                    21 August 2013 01: 02
                    Quote: Kars
                    Well, how much can you blame us on the delivery of nuclear weapons.

                    You "shout"? Yes, God forbid ... Do you take sho so at once at your own expense?
                    Quote: Kars
                    envy even small successes.

                    So this is natural - exceptions are always more noticeable, and great successes are boring statistics.
                    Quote: Kars
                    to write off 10 billion to Iraq, obliging him in return to buy weapons from the Russian Federation for 4.3 billion. Very generous.

                    And above you say that the growing toad is greener? Themselves and refute, because not all power is in the bubble. But from art - to mathematics (I did not check the value, and not the essence): 10-4,3 = 5,7 - kaneshna, in relation to the income of the budget's coming out - wow granny, but in relation to the yield from "Western Kurny-2 "(about 1,2 million barrels per day) - dust. So, for the future - a very wonderful groundwork.
                    1. +1
                      21 August 2013 01: 15
                      Quote: Simpleton
                      You "shout"? Yes, God forbid ... Do you take sho so at once at your own expense?

                      Are you talking about Mongolia))
                      Quote: Simpleton
                      So this is natural - exceptions are always more noticeable, and great successes are boring statistics.

                      envy is not good.
                      Quote: Simpleton
                      And above you say that the toad is greener?

                      naturally greener.
                      Quote: Simpleton
                      10-4,3 = 5,7 -

                      But 10 would not be returned to you in any case.

                      Quote: Simpleton
                      So, for the future - a very wonderful reserve.

                      As govortsa - hope and wait. First you need to fulfill this contract, let's see how the Iraqis will take your weapon.
                      Quote: Simpleton
                      West Qurna-2 "(about 1,2 million barrels per day) - dust.

                      Well, of course, all this income goes to Iraq’s Pocket, or is it Gazprom’s allot?
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                        21 August 2013 01: 48
                        Quote: Kars
                        Are you talking about Mongolia))

                        But you took it upon yourself in the form of a "reproach" ...
                        Quote: Kars
                        envy is not good.

                        although the point is there, but the phrase is not finished ... Are you jealous well?
                        Quote: Kars
                        Like govortsa - hope and wait.

                        So your same "as govortsa" even in're coming out-hymn spelled out - or not in the know? And others are pledging material future profits now - and what's wrong with that? After all, it is known that investments are necessary to make a profit, and it is not a fact that only babulets - there are other components. And profit is not always material ... Otherwise, it will turn out "to envy is not good - it is worse for yourself."
                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, of course, all this income goes to Iraq’s Pocket, or is it Gazprom’s allot?

                        Yeah, still, and "Rosneft" with BP would be dragged here ... So - not your topic.
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                        21 August 2013 10: 39
                        Quote: Simpleton
                        But you took it upon yourself in the form of a "reproach" ...

                        Decrypt
                        Quote: Simpleton
                        ot and the dot stands, but the phrase is not finished ... Are you jealous well?

                        It would be what.
                        Quote: Simpleton
                        So your same "as govortsa" even in're coming out-hymn spelled out - or not in the know?

                        no not in the know
                        Quote: Simpleton
                        others are laying material future profits now - and what’s wrong with that?

                        Who are you talking about?
                        Quote: Simpleton
                        Yeah, still, "Rosneft" and BP would be dragged here ... So - not your topic
                        No, not mine.
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                        21 August 2013 13: 05
                        Quote: Kars
                        Decrypt

                        hint:
                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, how much can you blame us on the delivery of nuclear weapons.

                        Quote: Kars
                        It would be what.

                        are you jealous?
                        Quote: Kars
                        no not in the know

                        position yourself as a dissident or just too lazy to know the Anthem of Ukraine?
                        Quote: Kars
                        Who are you talking about?

                        one of the examples, in relation to Iraq - "Lukoil", then - too lazy to list.
                        Quote: Kars
                        No, not mine.

                        the question was rhetorical.
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                        21 August 2013 13: 09
                        Quote: Simpleton
                        hint:
                        Quote: Kars

                        So all the same, did you see us? What then was puffing up?

                        Quote: Simpleton
                        are you jealous?

                        Are you envious well?
                        Quote: Simpleton
                        Are you positioning yourself as a dissident or just too lazy to know the Anthem of Ukraine?

                        my interpretation may not match yours
                        Quote: Simpleton
                        one of the examples, in relation to Iraq - "Lukoil", then - too lazy to list.

                        So all the same, about oil concessions?
                        Quote: Simpleton
                        the question was rhetorical.

                        Tovet was also rhetorical wassat
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                        21 August 2013 18: 18
                        Quote: Kars
                        So all the same, did you have us?

                        what I meant, then introduced. But if determined by yourself ...
                        Quote: Kars
                        what then puffed up?

                        are you already
                        Quote: Kars
                        Are you envious well?

                        is there anyone?
                        Quote: Kars
                        my interpretation may not match yours

                        interpretation - from lat. "interpretatio", which means "interpretation, clarification". The context of the question is somewhat different. Well, okay.
                        Quote: Kars
                        So all the same, about oil concessions?

                        For Iraq, yes. Everything else is indicated above.
                        Quote: Kars
                        Tovet was also rhetorical

                        (skirt)
            2. +1
              20 August 2013 21: 17
              Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
              Great collaboration!
              The Republic of Kazakhstan and the Russian Federation also have no ice .. Not for "srach" for the sake of:
              Firstly, this is a project of the Ishim complex, when it was planned to lift a rocket into the upper atmosphere on board the Mig-31 fighter and then launch it into space. Some money was spent, the project was not implemented.
              Secondly, the creation of the Kazsat-1 satellite. The Kazakh side ordered its production by the Khrunichev Center, which specialized in the Proton rocket and never participated in the creation of satellites. “Kazsat-1” flew exactly a year until it broke.
              Thirdly, this is the already mentioned Baiterek project. In all cases, high-profile programs provided for the allocation of money from Kazakhstan, which were then to be mastered by Russian space companies.
              In the Baiterek project. According to Kazkosmos, the Russian side delayed construction for 47 months, and the cost increased seven times in comparison with the initial one to 2 billion.
              Therefore, only two options were possible: either Kazakhstan was forced to refuse financing in this way and terminate the Baiterek contract, or they planned to take the money, build the Angara on it, and then confront the fact that it would not be based on Baikonur, and on the "East". Money would have been spent by now.

              According to An-148, Kazakhstan previously concluded a contract for their assembly (even under Tsar Gorokh). And as I understand it, because of the disagreement of the Russian Federation and Ukraine about this, the RK already gave up .. Continue, the RK is gradually moving to purchases over the C-295 hillock and they still want to .. They are seriously considering the issue of A-400M ..
              Keep it up so cool it turns out .. soldier
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            20 August 2013 18: 55
            Quote: Kars
            According to Ukrainian military experts, in the coming years, Kazakhstan may become the third largest importer of Ukrainian weapons in terms of purchases.
            Kazkosmos expects to reorient Baiterek to launch the Russian-Ukrainian Zenit-3SL rocket, which is a direct competitor of Proton-K. On Baikonur under the "Zenith" built two launchers. Kazkosmos conducts training of specialists, holds negotiations with other market participants, and even tries to create satellites.
            http://www.asiakz.com/zvezdnir-voiny
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              20 August 2013 19: 03
              It would be nice.
  6. +1
    20 August 2013 11: 09
    Something terrible is being planned in the Asia-Pacific region .. looking at the Arab states and what is going on in them, willy-nilly you will increase the costs of the army ..
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      20 August 2013 15: 04
      Something scary

      What, what - War in with a probability of 90%. If the article itself shows that defense spending in this region increased by 170%. Remember Georgia. In 2007 Georgia spent almost 10% of GDP on defense, and the growth of expenditures compared to 2003. increased by 100%.
      The global economic crisis has significantly affected the dynamics of growth in military spending of the NATO countries, but not among the countries of the Asia-Pacific region. Their expenses are only growing. Our military and politicians need a very balanced approach to the sale of weapons to these countries.
      1) The occurrence of conflicts of low or medium intensity is very high, about 90%
      2) The emergence of conflicts of high intensity with the involvement of neighboring states there is not more than 20%
      Accordingly, weapons will be bought taking into account territorial disputes and clashes at sea and in the air.
      Therefore, the prerogative will be given to ships, aircraft and air defense.
      So our generals and industrialists should already prepare in advance a multipack with the most suitable configuration.
      And of course, strengthen the defense capabilities of your country.
  7. +2
    20 August 2013 11: 13
    But here it is not visible that the Vietnamese buy weapons from the Chinese! And this is very symptomatic!
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    20 August 2013 11: 28
    Quote: Sergey Medvedev
    But here it is not visible that the Vietnamese buy weapons from the Chinese! And this is very symptomatic!

    And they won’t buy anything in the next 30 years .... They remember the 79th year well.
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    20 August 2013 14: 15
    Quote: Arabist
    Of course it’s not worth it, there are some good examples. March 3, 2013 Bulgaria celebrated the 135th anniversary of the liberation from the Turks. Russian weapons and Russian blood. And the Bulgarian brothers are forever grateful to us for this. Perhaps that is why in the entire history of Bulgaria they did not shy from participating in any anti-Russian coalition, ending with the current NATO.


    And at the same time, not a single Bulgarian soldier fought against Russia. So not in vain.

    And the venality of the elite is familiar, so I would look in the mirror.

    EBN handed over all allies, and you Russians twice him as president. This is how we will evaluate. Or we will distinguish between the PEOPLE and the leaders (now almost always corrupt).
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      20 August 2013 15: 02
      Quote: chenia
      And the venality of the elite is familiar, so I would look in the mirror. EBN handed over all allies, and you Russians twice him as president. This is how we will evaluate. Or we will distinguish between the PEOPLE and the leaders (now almost always corrupt).

      N-yes, tell me the truth, I personally feel ashamed for him, for Ebn and not only for him ...
  10. +1
    20 August 2013 15: 09
    Vietnam is well located, so many tried to take possession of them, but not everyone succeeded
  11. smiths xnumx
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    20 August 2013 17: 37
    Let us recall the old dream of the Vietnamese leaders, about the creation of their own "mini-empire", within Cambodia and Laos. After the end of the Vietnam War and the unification of Vietnam in 1975, he almost succeeded. The Vietnamese entered Laos during the war with the French, and then established their Le Duan regime there, cracking down on the rebellious hill tribes, and occupying Cambodia in 1978, in which Pol Pot helped them a lot, with his constant provocations on the Vietnamese-Cambodian border. At the same time, Vietnam was not afraid of Beijing's threats, and defeated the Chinese troops in the battle of Lang Son in 1979, having previously evicted the Wetnam Chinese ("huaqiao"). True, the huaqiao were unlucky anyway, since the Chinese sent them in the forefront of their "human troops" on Vietnamese machine guns. Of course, the role of the USSR was great, organizing an "air bridge" with arms deliveries to Vietnam, and conducting large-scale military maneuvers on the northern border of China and Mongolia. Thus, for about 10 years, from 1979 to 1989, there was a 100-strong Vietnamese contingent in Cambodia, actively participating in hostilities. Such Vietnamese activity frightened both the United States and China and Thailand, which provided bases on its territory to the main opponents of the Vietnamese, the Khmer Rouge, and weapons to fight the Vietnamese. But 10 years later, Soviet aid to Vietnam decreased significantly, and then it stopped altogether and Vietnam was forced to leave Cambodia and greatly weaken its positions in Laos. Nevertheless, now Vietnam is actively building up its muscles again, becoming one of the "Asian" tigers. The main problem of the VNA is a weak fleet, however, this problem is currently being solved, both by purchasing ships and by its own production (in Vietnam, ships of our project 1241 with various types of weapons are produced), the lack of submarines was first compensated by the purchase of two mini-ships from the DPRK. Submarine type "Yugo" (in exchange for the supply of rice), and now the purchase from us of 6 diesel-electric submarines of project 636.1, the first of which is to enter service in November this year. Air defense in Vietnam is quite strong since the Vietnam War. Plus, they bought 2 S-300PMU divisions, aircraft are also being purchased for the Air Force: we are buying Su-30 and Yak-130, and used Su-22M4s from the Poles. So, I'm afraid after a while we will again see an attempt to recreate Vietnam's "mini-empire". Yours faithfully! hi
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    20 August 2013 19: 37
    In addition to the simulator for the crews of submarines, the Vietnamese Navy will receive two similar complexes designed for the training of crews of guards “Cheetah” and missile boats “Lightning”.


    To clarify, complex simulators for training NK crews of projects 1241 RE and 12418 "Molniya" and project 11661 "Gepard-3.9" were manufactured by CJSC "R.E.T. Kronshtadt" and have been in operation since 2008 and 2011, respectively. In the coming years, they will be modernized in connection with the order of the antisubmarine version of the "Gepard" and interconnected.
  13. +1
    20 August 2013 22: 56
    Collaboration is certainly useful! good Maybe Camran will be reborn!
  14. 0
    20 August 2013 23: 13
    Quote: studentmati
    Maybe Camran will be reborn!


    Kamran is a must, and Cuba must be returned; in Latin America, interesting things are planned (there are already full of mattresses).
  15. smiths xnumx
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    21 August 2013 03: 01
    Well, congratulations on the next victory of the domestic defense industry.
    As reported by 20 August 2013, the agency Interfax-AVN, Russia will supply the 12 Su-30MK2 multi-role fighter jets to Vietnam. This was reported to Interfax-AVN on Tuesday by a military diplomatic source.

    "The contract for the supply of 12 Su-30MK2 fighters to Vietnam was signed last week. It provides for the supply of not only aircraft, but also technical property," the source said. He recalled that this is the third contract for Sukhoi fighters. The two previous ones for the delivery of eight and twelve aircraft have been successfully completed [in fact, since 2004, 24 Su-30MK2 fighters have already been delivered to Vietnam].

    The supply of aircraft under the new contract will be carried out in three batches of four aircraft in 2014-2015, "the source said. He refused to name the cost of the contract, citing the fact that it is a commercial secret. According to experts, the cost of this contract is at least 600 million dollars Yours faithfully! hi

    Su-30MK2 fighters from the 923th fighter aviation regiment of the 371st aviation division of the Air Force and Air Defense of Vietnam. Aircraft delivery 2012. Thanh Hoa March 2013

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