Fukushima lies

Nuclear catastrophe associated with the accident at the Fukushima-1 nuclear power plant continues to develop in Japan. Lying and silencing the real facts of this disaster over the past two-plus years have become the norm for Japan. The Japanese authorities began to lie as soon as they said that nothing terrible had happened, and they immediately evicted people for the 8 kilometer zone, and then for the 20 kilometer zone.

As the world press reported recently, referring to the Japanese energy company Tokyo Electric Power (TEPCO), the protective barrier at the technical port of Fukushima-1 NPP is no longer able to cope with leaks of radioactive water into the ocean. The level of polluted groundwater under the territory of the nuclear power plant has now already at 60 cm exceeded the protective barriers that have been erected along the entire coastline of the port. Simply put, radioactive water just pours into the ocean. According to experts, about 300 tons are poured into the ocean per day. For the first time, TEPCO has admitted leaking radioactive water from the territory of the Fukushima-1 nuclear power plant to the Pacific Ocean in late July. The Japanese government instructed the NPP operator to take urgent measures to prevent the leakage of radioactive water.

According to experts, at least 20 thousand tons of “dirty” water accumulated in the drainage system of the nuclear power plant. And in the basements of the power units, the drainage system and in special tanks on the territory of the NPP, more than 360 thousand tons of water with different degrees of contamination accumulated (as of March 2013 of the year). According to measurements in one of the drainage tunnels, the content of radioactive cesium in water reaches 2,35 billion becquerels per liter of liquid, at the international standard in 150 becquerels. According to the data of TEPCO experts, water from the Fukushima-1 drainage tunnels constantly flows out through cracks and enters the groundwater, replenishing them with a large number of radioactive substances.

For more than two years, the Japanese, whom our Westernized intelligentsia considered to be a super-technological nation, foul the World Ocean. In a simple way, the truth is that the Japanese pour water onto the unassembled ruins of the reactor, the water receives a huge charge of radiation and pours into the ocean. And this water flows from the very beginning of the disaster. From the very beginning, the Japanese did not begin to solve the problem, as it should be - to eliminate the accident, that is, to build huge burial grounds of varying degrees of protection, to attract a lot of equipment and people (obviously doomed to receive a certain dose of radiation) and “clear the territory”. The Japanese chose the second option, to create external activity, while practically nothing really to do. While the radioactive water was pouring into the sea in hundreds of tons, the Japanese talked about the “heroic struggle” with the consequences of the accident. Apparently, this will continue.

Is it dangerous? Given the vastness of the Pacific Ocean, the danger is minimal. True, this does not mean that someone can get into the "statistics" of accidents. So, about two years after the accident, the operator of the company TEPCO caught fish, sea bass, which had 254 000 becquerels per kilogram of weight, which exceeded Japanese radiation standards 2500 times.

The insignificance of the accident for the entire planet, and it can withstand more than a dozen of Hiroshim and Fukushima, does not cancel the responsibility of Japan for the pollution of the ocean and the concealment of information from its own population and all of humanity. The Japanese authorities for more than two years hide the truth about the accident from the world community. By lulling people with words about the construction of cooling systems, barriers, etc. The UN and the IAEA help them in this matter. Considering how the world community criticized Moscow for Chernobyl, although there they really struggled with the accident, the situation looks even more disgusting. This is an example of a policy of double standards. Japan, as an ally of the West (USA), is covered. For two years, radioactive water from the Fukushima nuclear power plant-1 poured into the ocean, and the management company TEPCO only now recognized this fact. And only now the Japanese authorities and the company itself “saw the light” and attended to the creation of protective barriers.

Although alarming data came before. Already in 2011, the report from the research group at Stanford University and the Stony-Brook University School of Marine and Atmospheric Research (New York) reported that leaks of radionuclides into the ocean are of concern at both the local and global levels. The report reported that radioactive elements were found in Pacific bluefin tuna, which is distributed throughout the North Pacific. Scientists have found elevated levels of cesium-134 and cesium-137 in tunas caught off the Californian coast. The researchers noted that other large animals that use the waters around Japan can bring radionuclides to areas of the northern and southern parts of the Pacific Ocean. In addition, American scientists have noted the increased content of beta radiation in the air on the Pacific coast of the United States. Researchers Joe Mangano and Janet Sherman discovered radioactive fallout, including radioactive iodine, especially the five US states were affected. Within a few days after the accident at the nuclear power plant, the concentration of iodine-131, which fell in the United States, exceeded the world standard by a factor of 211.

The site of the US Environmental Protection Agency reported that in June 2013, the Japanese company TEPCO recognized the presence of highly radioactive strontium-90 (a product of fission of uranium and plutonium) in groundwater under a damaged reactor. Tritium was also found in the water. But then the general manager of the Japanese company Toshihiko Fukuda said that the contaminated water with strontium-90 does not fall into the ocean. According to the Japan Today National newspaper, between the end of 2012 of the year and May of 2013 of the year, the level of strontium-90 in groundwater near the turbine of reactor No. 2 increased more than 100 times: from 8,6 Becquerel to 1000 units per liter of water (maximum allowable level is 30 of Becquerel ). In the water, found and the beyond-limit levels of tritium - 500 thousand Becquerels per liter.

The situation around Fukushima itself revealed several important facts. Firstly, the Japanese are no more perfect in the field of high technologies than other nations. Secondly, they preferred to hide the truth not only in the USSR (recalling the Chernobyl tragedy), but the “highly developed” East and West. Japanese authorities, representatives of the management company, officials of the United Nations, WHO and the IAEA have lied and continue to lie. Moreover, in the USSR they really struggled with the problem, while in Japan they preferred to talk about it.

Comments

[Hauptmann emil]

So why are our people at the UN silent? Let them speak about it openly from the "high" stands. If they remain silent, they will continue to do nothing further.

[tronin.maxim]

It is also terrifying that our territory is close. At this rate, a fish mutation will occur soon.

[Sirocco]

The territory is close, but underwater currents pull all these leaks towards the United States. And for some reason, the USA is silent, why would it?

[Hudo]

Quote: Sirocco

The territory is close, but underwater currents pull all these leaks towards the United States. And for some reason, the USA is silent, why would it?

Well, Duc Japa, all the commands of the striped trainer are clearly fulfilled. Why are they yelling?

[Sirocco]

Quote: Hudo

. Why are they yelling?

This worries me, if parasha flowed into my yard from my neighbor, (even if my friend), I would point him to this. And then, like in a movie.

[Papakiko]

Quote: Sirocco

if parash from my neighbor flowed into my yard

So this "neighbor" of the sewer and put and assembled and assured that all this is mega-super.
And with currents everything is "good"

[fzr1000]

Since 1946, the era of nuclear and hydrogen bomb tests began, the most destructive part of them was carried out in the Marshall Islands of the Pacific Ocean. The first test took place on June 30, 1946. Then, over 12 years, another 67 followed - on the islands of Bikini and Iniviteik - with a total capacity of 108 megatons (that's the equivalent of over 7000 Hiroshima!). On March 1, 1954, a secret test, codenamed "Bravo", was conducted on Bikini, the results of which stunned even the military. The island was practically destroyed by a hydrogen bomb, the power of which was a thousand times higher than the power of the one that was dropped on Hiroshima. Only in July 1963, the Treaty Banning Nuclear Weapon Tests in the Atmosphere, in Outer Space and Under Water was signed. According to Russian experts, by this time about 520 nuclear tests in the atmosphere had already been carried out on the planet. The USA and the USSR detonated 210 atomic and hydrogen bombs each, Great Britain - 21, France - 50 and China - 23. France continued testing in the atmosphere until 1974, and China until 1980. It is scary to think what volumes of dangerous radioactive elements entered the atmosphere and spread through the waters of the oceans! Today, even many decades after atomic explosions (!), Long-lived radioactive isotopes of the Cold War era are still descending from the stratosphere to the earth and oceans. The events in Fukushima are childish compared to what we have done in the arms race.

[avdkrd]

You're not right. Isotopes from the explosion of an atomic, hydrogen and neutron bomb are qualitatively and quantitatively different from those released during the explosion of a reactor. Compared to the latest, atomic bombs are just an example of environmental friendliness. The area contaminated with decomposition products from the reactor will become relatively clean and safe after 10 years. This is due to isotopes of cesium and strontium, which are not excreted from the body at all. With nuclear weapons, everything is much simpler, the epicenter of the explosion, in principle, is relatively safe after a generation (000-20 years).

[fzr1000]

Relatively, of course, but I don’t think that now in New Earth, Nevada and Bikini life is so safe.

In 1968, US authorities announced that the atoll was safe for life and the islanders could return to it. Some of them returned during the 1970s.

About 840 Pacific Atoll residents died from cancer and other diseases caused by US nuclear tests. About 7000 former Bikini residents demanded to be recognized as victims of American trials. However, only 1865 people were officially recognized as such, almost half of whom died. The victims, to whom the United States paid compensation in the total amount of $ 83 million, were identified 35 different diseases.

In 2011, the population of the atoll was 9 people.

[abdrah]

Hello. I thought that the main thing is the isotopic composition, and not the action that caused it. in Hiroshima, for example, about 1,5% of the total volume of fissile material worked for the decay reaction, 150K yapes were cooked in 3 minutes, and the remaining 98,5% was left to the delight of posterity. 137Cs is a half-life of approx. 30 years, to allow settlement in the affected areas, the half-life is multiplied by 10. 300 years is not so much, for cesium. strontium 30 years, about. for plutonium, and around Chernobyl there is a significant spot affected by plutonium, the half-life of which must be multiplied approximately 800, the element is more stable and phonite with the same content is 800 times less. Iodine, the same from which after the Chernobyl accident was poisoned during the prophylaxis, more than suffered from radiation and is actually an extremely active element with a period of about 8 days, that is, it emits in 8 days what strontium is in equal mass for 30 years, approximately.

[Forget-me-not]

You tell the Turkmen. And then. generation = 15 years, not 20-25. We are all mutants. Now the most plastic organisms will survive. And it is possible. that will help us in this GMO. Here they will add the genes of cockroaches to us, and everything will settle down.

[fzr1000]

But that's not all! It is no longer a secret that until 1994, the Russian Pacific Fleet dumped solid and liquid radioactive wastes, as well as expired ammunition, into the ocean. Since 2003, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the Navy and scientists have been organizing expeditions to areas of radioactive waste discharge. There are dozens of such places in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the Sea of ​​Japan. The data obtained are recorded in the Register of potentially dangerous underwater objects in inland waters and the territorial sea of ​​the Russian Federation, which is maintained by the Russian Emergencies Ministry. However, there is practically no open information on the basis of these expeditions. How many radionuclides have already been accumulated in the Pacific flora and fauna! In this regard, the question of mutations arises. It was explained to me that such changes occur during the accumulation of heavy metals with a long half-life in the spleen, fats, nervous tissue, and liver of all highly developed organisms. At the same time, over twenty years of work in the Far East, my classmates have not seen clearly expressed fish mutations. But after all the catastrophes that mankind arranged, they, of course, were. As I was told, mutant fish are not viable and die even in the stage of eggs or fry. Yes, and to notice such organisms in tons of fish caught is impossible. Much research has been devoted to the incidence of fish, but it is difficult to say which pathologies are associated with radiation: radionuclides are carried by streams and schools of fish far from the places of testing and disposal of waste.

[Misantrop]

Quote: fzr1000

Until 1994, the Russian Pacific Fleet dumped solid and liquid radioactive waste and expired ammunition into the ocean.

... and the whole world community, knowing this, was silent. Believe it, yeah ...

[Jin]

Quote: Misantrop

... and the whole world community, knowing this, was silent. Believe it, yeah ...

Greetings, colleague!

Well, that's not even the point. After all, "our western partners" for decades, have also drowned all sorts of rubbish in the vastness of the world okiyana ... therefore, to make of this "discovery of the century", at least, is unreasonable. We do not see what they are doing, they do not see what we are doing. Nobody sees anything, everyone is happy, everyone laughs ...

[fzr1000]

Where would she have gone at that time? You can't stand up against the USSR too much, and the "public" itself did the same.

[Forget-me-not]

Yes that's right. Why don't you voice this in the aspect of transmutation of the population feeding on this conventionally normal (?) Fish from the Pacific Ocean? Indeed, already in the early eighties it was known that the northern peoples, whose crafts are associated with the ocean, are dying out. That is, they are born, but not from local men. As they say, "from geologists (exaggerated)" The male population is almost completely sterile. It already becomes so in utero thanks to the fish caught in the coastal zone. And we are very respected by the whole country for the Pacific herring. And is it not connected with this decline in fertility, a high percentage of pathologies in newborns ?, an increase in cases of infertility of spouses. Note that women tend to do this. the result of early abortions. And what about men? Sexual infections in this aspect should not be taken into account. T. K. they WERE before. And there was NO cure for them.

[Patriot.ru.]

For some reason, everyone is silent that our red fish eats and grows off the coast of Japan. Where are Onishchenko ???. And Norway has raised the price for its red fish. They understand that we are not.

[Biodred]

Why lie? The fleet, in principle, cannot dump radioactive waste somewhere. The recharging of reactors takes place at shipyards, which are a surprise! - do not belong to the fleet.

[fzr1000]

Officially, Japanese fish is banned in our country. However, the domestic fishing industry in the Far East continues to operate without interruption. In the first quarter of 2011, 275 thousand tons of fish and seafood were caught there, which is 28 thousand tons more than the same period last year. Radioactive fish caught off the coast of Japan can be shipped to Russia from other countries, such as Vietnam. The main importer of fish is China, which sends a third of exported fish products to our country.

The Russians claim that today you can eat Pacific seafood without health risks, because during the emission of radiation the wind blew from west to east - towards the United States. So, the main dangerous cloud has scattered over the ocean or sank to America. Nevertheless, there are reasons for concern. The fact is that bioaccumulation occurs in nature. Even with a normal radiation background, plankton accumulates ionizing particles in very large quantities. What can we say about the situation when the background is exceeded tenfold! In the case of radioactive contamination of water, phyto- and zooplankton become a source of radiation for all parts of the food chain down to humans, and in each subsequent food level, the amount of radiation increases by a factor. So the infected seafood may well get on the table of any Russian. Over time, due to currents and particle transport with migrating birds, fish, invertebrates and marine mammals, pollution can spread farther and farther from the coast of Japan. Where and when radioactive fish or other seafood gets on the net is unknown.

[fzr1000]

However, my concerns were considered by my hydrobiological friends to be unfounded, at least for today. Now there are several research vessels on the voyages: in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk off the west coast of Kamchatka, in the northwestern Pacific Ocean. In these areas, the most important for Far Eastern fishermen pass - pollock and herring. According to the data obtained from the vessels, indicators of the background radiation level in the air vary within 6 - 10 microroentgen per hour, in the caught fish - 5 - 10 microroentgen per hour, which corresponds to the norm. In the area of ​​possible pollution of the Pacific Ocean, Russian fishermen do not conduct significant fishing. I was assured that today there are no threats to biological resources: neither fish nor other seafood are infected with radiation. The inhabitants of the Far East, as before, eat caught fish - there is simply no choice.

The Pacific Ocean, according to scientists, is able to cope with radioactive contamination if the worst case scenario does not happen. Fukushima is located on the coast, where two powerful ocean currents collide - Kuroshio and the Oyashio Kuril Current. As a result, a water stream forms, directed from the Japanese ridge to the North Pacific (northern part of the ocean). The current does not enter the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, but it runs along the Russian coast in the Kuril and Kamchatka regions.

Salmonids, which represent the largest share in the Russian fishing industry, are at risk. Their traditional fishing season will begin in June-July in the Russian Far East. Pink salmon, sockeye salmon, coho salmon are fed in the Pacific Ocean, east of Japan. It is to this region that the sea current carries radionuclides from the emergency station. In early summer, the fish will come to spawn in the rivers of Kamchatka, Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands. The question is how high the concentration of harmful substances in this salmon will be. According to the calculations of hydrobiologists, it will still be below the permissible norms, it is assumed that in a huge mass of water, radiation will "dissolve" and acquire a low concentration. But the main danger is that radionuclides will circulate for a long time along food chains, from invertebrates and plants to large organisms. How exactly this will happen, no one knows. In any case, in the summer, monitoring will be carried out in traditional areas of the mass approach of fish to spawning grounds.

There are concerns about lemonade, saury, squid and anchovies that live on the Japanese islands, although this is not such a large percentage of Russian fisheries like salmon. Saira is the only Japanese fish that goes far north, reaching the middle Kuril Islands, and in some warm years - the Northern Kuril Islands, southeastern Kamchatka and even the Bering Sea, where Russian vessels fish.

According to fellow students, each batch of seafood is subject to strict control: everyone involved in the fishing was obliged to monitor the level of radiation, the ships were equipped with appropriate instruments. Moreover, all fish undergo additional control at the ports. Another thing is poaching catches that reach consumers, bypassing all sorts of inspections.

Infected fish cannot be identified by color, shape or taste. First, radionuclides affect the gills, which are known to be a filter, and then disperse throughout the body, the highest concentration occurs in the liver, bones and nervous system.

A fish fed on infected plankton will become a source of radiation not only for itself but also for its offspring. So in the long run, the abundance of some species of fish, including commercial ones, is possible.
Source http://www.allrussia.ru/new/110602143948.html

[Motors1991]

As they said in Chernobyl, the Soviet member can withstand a thousand X-rays, let the Japanese bother. The facts that you bring are such a minuscule that you don’t want to speak. Mutations are and will be without any radiation. Chemicals are much more dangerous for humanity infections, and they surround us everywhere: in water, food, air. It’s just easier to blame it on radiation. Diabetes, strokes, cancer have become epidemic and everything is connected with chemical additives in food, animal feed.

[m262]

Thank you, the comment is beyond praise +++++

[Andrey Skokovsky]

Quote: Hudo

Quote: Sirocco

The territory is close, but underwater currents pull all these leaks towards the United States. And for some reason, the USA is silent, why would it?

Well, Duc Japa, all the commands of the striped trainer are clearly fulfilled. Why are they yelling?

the American elite promotes shale gas at home, and here some isotopes invisible to anyone
they just put on their stupid patriotic people for a long time and are guided by personal interests

[Misantrop]

Quote: Sirocco

And for some reason, the United States is silent, why would it?

Only to the fact that all the power units of this nuclear power plant are manufactured in the USA, they wrote the technological instructions for their operation. Accordingly, if you raise a scandal, they will be jammed ...

[Sirocco]

Quote: Misantrop

Only to the fact that all the power units of this nuclear power plant are manufactured in the USA,

[Danafxnumx]

who will jam them?

it seems more likely to me that the east coast in general and fascington in particular don't care how much amerobydlos will die of cancer on the west coast ...

[silver_roman]

all right. The most disgusting thing is that despite this tragedy, the states, namely General Electric, tried to shove the project of a nuclear power plant in the Czech Republic against the background of Fukushima. Maybe I'm wrong about the Czech Republic - I don't remember exactly. and it seems they did it. "Woe to grief, and business is business" - their division and they spit on fish, Japanese, concern, all sorts of isotopes, etc. Hopefully. that the breeze will bring them cesium with strontium to the full!

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Sirocco

And for some reason, the United States is silent, why would it?

That is why they are silent because they built a "super-protected and super-reliable" nuclear power plant themselves, now they are silent "in a rag" in the hope that "by chance" it will somehow "dissolve", it will be washed away by the current until it reaches the coast ...
And their "greens" have already been given the "directive" not to open their mouths, neither about the barbaric extraction of shale gas, nor about the leakage of radiation in sea water towards the "country of equal opportunities." Greenpeace, where are you? Oooh ... Add to that the permanent oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico - here it is, an oil painting.
But the State Department honestly fulfills its bread - deliberate problems have been created in the Middle East and North Africa - the high rises only in this channel. And then there is also the Russian "unfortunate supporters of leaky love" do not consider people. This is truly an American tragedy of universal proportions ...

[abdrah]

They are silent because they themselves built the Yapam station. maybe the omerekns and would like to build in a better and more reliable way, but unfortunately they do not know how ...

[APASUS]

Quote: abdrah

They are silent because they themselves built the Yapam station. maybe the omerekns and would like to build in a better and more reliable way, but unfortunately they do not know how ...

They are not silent!
They raised such a wave in Japan that the Japanese themselves are beginning to believe that nothing actually happened!
I correspond with a girl from Tokyo. So she says in almost every letter that we have OK. That everything that our newspapers write is a lie. And you say that they are silent!

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: APASUS

And you say that they are silent!

It would be better to be silent.
Accepted for the smart ...

[Alex Nick]

I also think everything will work out ...

[CTEPX]

Quote: APASUS

she says in almost every letter that we have OK

And maybe the girl is right)). If you take for the working version of the production of underwater nuclear tests by Japan, which led to the earthquake. Then - the accident at Fukushima, either as a result of, or instead of an explosion)).

[Setrac]

Quote: Sirocco

And for some reason, the United States is silent, why would it?

Is the station American?

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Setrac

Is the station American?

Whose else?
Hiroshima and Nagasaki first.
Now Fukushima.
But what would the Japans not be distracted by such "trifles", they bother with their head in the direction of the Kuriles.
No matter how the Japanese people repeat the fate of dinosaurs ...

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Sirocco

The territory is close, but underwater currents pull all these leaks towards the United States. And for some reason, the USA is silent, why would it?

They are on the drum. Those to whom this business may not be indifferent do not have an opinion on this issue. Benefits again can rob ...

[Gladiatir-zlo]

Yes, this is a vivid example of the vaunted straw superiority, and democratic bonzes still turned out to be ghouls. So why should we scold our people and scourge, all over the world they treat people as garbage.

[Patriot.ru.]

In my opinion, all currents are pulled to Kamchatka.

[Cynic]

Quote: Patriot.ru.

currents pull to Kamchatka.

There is such a science oceanology _ Above laid out

[Sol_jah]

what other mutation (NFs have not been read otherwise), cold-blooded fish and a different metabolism, all the radiation to them is a light bulb, near the Chernobyl NPP, the catfish live in the canal and do not blow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osqm_8sKEeo

[tilovaykrisa]

Yes, not just catfish, but huge Fishes. The "Old Man" loves to catch them.

[Jin]

Quote: Sol_Jah

to them all the radiation to the bulb, near the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, the catfish live in the canal and do not blow in the mustache

The fish may be up to the lantern, but people who don't care about this fish will decide to eat, with human "warm-blooded" metabolism, it will not be very "tasty".

Quote: Sol_Jah

what other mutation

A mutation is better, although it would be clear that this miracle is harmful to eat.

[Forget-me-not]

PEOPLE eat fish!

[Jin]

Quote: tronin.maxim

It is also terrifying that our territory is close

In general, of course, this is sheer bestiality on the part of the Japanese ... What protected whales are exterminated, what the focus is ... tihari damn, fans, smiles, but in fact wolves in sheep's clothing, it would seem to them not to know , what is radiation and what does it eat (((

[Albert1988]

The fish mutation is not so terrible - for the most part, mutants will not survive in nature, it is worse than the accumulation of radionuclides in fish organisms - a huge amount of them can accumulate there (in fact, the example with a perch is given in the article) due to the high resistance of their body to radiation, fish it’s not scary - she won’t survive to cancer, but for a person who eats such fish ...

[viruskvartirus]

))) Do not expect to see two-headed fish. Living creatures have protection against radiation exposure, and what’s what, and the ocean will dissolve and not notice.

[Albert1988]

Quote: viruskvartirus

Do not expect to see two-headed fish. Living creatures have radiation protection.

But soon we will see the selection for increased resistance to radiation !!! Here it is evolution in action ...

Quote: viruskvartirus

and so what, but the ocean will dissolve and not notice.

Dissolve it will dissolve, but only then eat fish and other seafood from this ocean will not be very good for health ...

[Geisenberg]

Quote: tronin.maxim

It is also terrifying that our territory is close. At this rate, a fish mutation will occur soon.

Of course it will happen - they will all go to fish hell ...

[Hudo]

Quote: Hauptmann Emil

So why are our UN silent?

Maybe that's why they are silent because they understand that there will be no support. The UN's yellow-faced anthun concentrated all the "experts" closer to Iran (they are looking for BoNbu), and the chemical ones closer to Syria (with a similar task).

[Papakiko]

Quote: Hauptmann Emil

If you are silent, they will continue to do nothing further.

What remains for them to do? Minimum possibilities. If you catch up on equipment for REAL liquidation, then where to put all the burial grounds of transport and how can you hide it from the public? Japan is not the Russian Federation, Belarus or Ukraine, places are very limited.
The level of contaminated groundwater beneath the territory of the nuclear power plant is now 60 cm higher than the protective barriers that were erected along the entire coastline of the port. Simply put, radioactive water just pours into the ocean.
With this pearl, what to do, how to understand what the author wanted to say?
There are no structures around the nuclear power plant, for this it is enough to look at the "satellite maps", with the exception of the breakwaters and a breakwater from the side of the sea-okiyana about 6 meters high.
60 cm above "protective structures"- it should be similar to Niagara Falls in terms of flowing water 1 834 m³ / s . What brutal pumps do the Japonians pump with such a volume of water into the cellars of the nuclear power plant?
According to measurements in one of the drainage tunnels, the level of radioactive cesium in the water reaches 2,35 billion. becquerels per liter of liquid, with international 150 becquerels.
These two lines are more than enough to understand the approximate depth of the Fukushima "popalov".
Before the Fukushima accident, we measured radiation in micro-roentgens and X-ray machines in every hospital.
And now Becquerel ... and which particular Becquerel?
There are 10 of them. from 10 \ 1 to 10 \ 24 (soundboard, hecto, kilo, mega, gig, terra, pet, exa, zetta, iotta)
Generally sad everything is on Fukushima.

[Mikhail3]

The power pump of any thermal power plant or nuclear power plant consumes about 2MW of electricity. Two megawatts is a lot, believe me. And there are dozens of them.

[Papakiko]

Quote: Mikhail3

The power pump of any thermal power plant or nuclear power plant consumes about 2MW of electricity. Two megawatts is a lot, believe me. And there are dozens of them.

"Native heart" is not a question of megawatts, but of the volume of pumped water.
Sit with the puppeteer and count.

[Mikhail3]

Somewhere from 500 to 1000 cubes per hour takes the feed pump. Made there along the way. Non-damaged water treatment plants give the pumps clean water, otherwise they would have already bent. From the pumps, this water goes to the ejection unit, where it picks up seawater, which you cannot pass directly through. After that, the water is pumped under the barrels, washing away the active zones in the sea. The delusional figures given by the Japanese are unclear why - of course it’s a lie ... Sorry, I didn’t discuss the topic, you asked - where did the water come from, I answered. Well, you sailor, it seems, the topic of pumps is not alien to you?

[Papakiko]

Quote: Mikhail3

Sorry, I didn’t open the topic, you asked - where did the water come from, I answered.

The general meaning is clear, but do not pump so much. The video below is not good, but you can see the state of affairs at the station in the fall of 2011.

Quote: Mikhail3

Well, you sailor, it seems, the topic of pumps is not alien to you

And why did you decide that all sailors are specialists in pumps, and even superproductive.

Quote: Mikhail3

From the pumps, this water goes to the ejection unit, where it picks up seawater, which you cannot pass directly through.

This is of course a plus !!!!
But I doubt that they do it or did it.

Well, what kind of pressure and perseverance is +.

[Mikhail3]

Well, to be honest - you pump up as much as you like. You see - one feed pump can produce a thousand tons per hour. There should be three of them at one power unit - one in reserve. Moreover, at nuclear power plants they are not under the turbine, as a rule, but aside, everyone should work. It is quite possible to fill all the neighborhoods with water, because we will not pump into the void, but raise the level of soil water in a limited space. Plus they also brought fire water cannons for large buildings, there are generally constructions on turbojet engines, the performance is simply indescribable ...
Yes, I thought that they study for sailors Well, since the iron barrel is separated from the ocean floor only by its filling ... let’s tell you about the pumps. In general, the pump on any ship (including oil, fuel and other other compressors, which are essentially the same pumps) is the most common mechanism. In general, I'm sorry, got excited
Well, the ejection pumps on seawater were definitely made, but not out of altruism. Just softened water from water treatment plants is expensive. This is if we pay for electricity, then water too, and so ... Well, a welder ejects an ejection unit in an hour, even a blinker. However, the Japanese, I think, made them a month, they messed up ten million dollars and it turned out worse than Uncle Vasya.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Hauptmann Emil

So why are our people at the UN silent? Let them speak about it openly from the "high" stands. If they remain silent, they will continue to do nothing further.

What's the point? The UN was created so that American puppets, from a high rostrum, could express the thoughts of their lord, well, and praise him at the same time. I don’t see any options whereby a priest can make his head bite, so apparently there are no statements to the UN.

[Recon]

The UN has long ceased to be an authority in our world. But only an instrument of political influence of a certain group of countries.

[Mohomax]

We draw conclusions, now in Japan there are no samurai, and in 86 we had (though not quite by our own will), but nevertheless, building heroes out of ourselves as in Japan is low

[Egen]

Yes, for the Japanese, radiation is a common thing ... at least for the ruling circles - they have been preparing the people for this for a long time, their "Godzilla" and similar radiation monsters appeared on the screen long before the American - in 54 :)
Seriously though, IMHO the Japanese, as ordinary people, are also good, like the Americans. And Russians are "worse". But in general, Japan as a country, if you look at its history, it turns out that it does not matter at all about its neighbors, and even about its common people too. It's a pity, the country is interesting, the nature from films and pictures is a picture, all my life I dreamed of going there, but it's better to see somewhere in Africa ... :)

[Forget-me-not]

Well yes. It is to Africa, and better to the eastern coastal zones. There, all the Fukushima water is splashing off the coast! Well, in general, American engineers have done things. I am glad that there are no graduates of the Russian "polytechnics" among them, in any case there is no mention of this yet. It's time for our scientists to develop alternative methods of generating electricity. I live in Rostov-on-Don. And the NPP is not far from us, upstream of the Don - the city of Volgodonsk. And if something goes wrong, the infection zone will capture the Azov, Black seas, all resorts, the Caucasus, etc. And there will be no granary for Russia. Whose wheat are we going to eat?
P.S. It is time to tie with a peaceful atom, until they died out themselves without noise and dust.

[Nitarius]

Why is no one talking! that FUKUSIMU was blown up, or rather the Tsunami, was specially built with an atomic explosion in the ocean ???
Japan + USA - which the world has not seen. Chernobyl was an accident here. and here they specially blew up. Such rich millionaires in the USA and JAPAN - SHOOT for such a need!

[aviator_IAS]

Quote: Nitarius

Why is no one talking! that FUKUSIMU was blown up, or rather the Tsunami, was specially built with an atomic explosion in the ocean ???

No, well, this is already too much. Hundreds of seismographs work in different countries and scientists have accumulated rich experience in classifying various earthquakes. And atomic tests not only detect, but also calculate power.

But the sin of the Americans still exists. They "planted a time bomb" by ineptly concocting the project.

[Mikhail3]

Because it is idiocy and complete debilitation of the brain. SGA blew up nuclear power plants so that the radioactive water washed their shores, which are now silent as if they were killed. People-X are being taken out on an industrial scale, yeah ... they decided to produce hulks.
As a result of the tsunami of the Fukushima nuclear power plant ... it didn’t suffer at all! But her staff rushed to flee, shamefully leaving the workplace. If it were not for the broken power line, then automation (not the bullshit that the Japanese give out as their achievements, but a real, American 60 of that century) would independently drown the station and everything would go quietly. Yes, she almost did it already, just the Americans of the 60x at that time could not imagine how the staff screeched, shaking with their olfactory pants, all in one piece. And jamming in the open position of the overload valves on the evaporators was done in manual mode, because such an operation should be performed by a person. But a man, not a pissing Japanese! Here are the barrels and tore ...
Meanwhile, a delegation from Rosatom, which Kiriyenko had assembled in emergency mode, was sitting at the airport. There were people who personally extinguished Chernobyl, our engineers, who would have extinguished the situation in an hour or two, who could easily reduce everything to a small technical malfunction. But Gendir TEPKO was sitting in his office, cutting off the phones and silently spoiling himself. And the Japanese prime minister called every five minutes those three Japanese who "risked" walking along the outer corridors of the block with flashlights. When it exploded, ours were quietly sent home ...

[Horde]

Quote: Nitarius

Why is no one talking! that FUKUSIMU was blown up, or rather the Tsunami, was specially built with an atomic explosion in the ocean ???
Japan + USA - which the world has not seen. Chernobyl was an accident here. and here they specially blew up. Such rich millionaires in the USA and JAPAN - SHOOT for such a need!

wow, here it is! there is no uranium235, all our uranium is being sent to the states, but for the sake of saving Pin_Dos energy, Japanese stations were destroyed by the explosion of a nuclear bomb and tsunami, and thorium stations cannot be built because some military effect is obtained.
But this is a BOMB !!! INFORMATION.
Is Kiriyenko the main one for the supply of uranium to the states? What is Putin doing? And what, who is Onishchenko there ???
Does everyone really care?

and the journalist sits and grins disgustingly - "this can't be"

[Internet fighter]

Quote: Horde

wow, here it is! no uranium235

It is not that it is not there, but that consumption exceeded production.

Quote: Horde

all our uranium is driven to the states, but for the sake of saving pin_dos energy

Actually, yes, under the HEU-LEU program since the 93rd year, which ended this year.

Quote: Horde

and thorium stations cannot be built because some military effect is obtained.

The neutrino beam is like a beam weapon, not the stations themselves.

[Kibalchish]

This article is already similar to verbiage.
Yes, in Chernobyl "they really fought" ... throwing people into the radioactive heat, but in Japan they prefer to protect people. Work in Fukushima is underway. Here, too, the author lied. Nobody removed the responsibility from the Japanese, but it would be better for us and our Chernobyl to keep quiet. We have dirtied much more land. This is so, in fairness.

[Alpha-omega]

".. We have dirtied much more land ..." - this is another question, who dirtied more (or rather dirtied). Let's see how many more years they will need to eliminate the radiation leakage into the ocean.
"... This is so, in fairness ..." - in fairness, it should be said that despite all their scientific and technological progress, the Japanese were not ready for accidents of this kind (although the sensational Chernobyl was earlier). In the Union, this problem would be solved in 2-3 months.

[Kibalchish]

In Japan, the scale of the disaster is much smaller. And that water - so the ocean is big. And the territory is deactivated.



To fellow minusculers, do not minus the rat, but write the arguments.

[KazaK Bo]

Quote: Kibalchish

And that water - so the ocean is big. And the territory is deactivated.

... for the entire Pacific Ocean - you're right, it's practically nothing! But for our coastal waters it is very close ... and the fish swims far away and ... you can find many more "OTHERS AND" ...
So do not equalize the chances of getting infection in Russia and Papua Guinea with New Zealand ... It seems that the ocean and water are the same, but the difference, OH, WHAT'S BIG ....
When is it decontaminated? And why didn't they "scratch" before? Or did they expect the water to wash everything away?

[Papakiko]

Quote: KazaK Bo

Or did they expect that the water will wash away everything?

Water washes away everything.
Atmospheric precipitation into the ground, then partly into the ground and into plants, the rest directly in the streams-rivers in the sea-okiyan. A couple of decades and will be almost "natural background". In japonia, precipitation is more frequent and more abundant than the average for Ukraine-Belarus-Russia and the sea-okyan is closer.
How many years after the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was the "normal" background restored, and to what extent did the inhabitants undergo mutations?
Here is a video with traces of Avria and the scale of the work performed.

[Varnaga]

Of course less, we have the WHOLE reactor exploded, but for yapps it’s just that: three reactors with a molten core + a lot of spent fuel in cooling pools)) And yes:

On December 10, 2012, the most recent analyzes of water samples were published before the six-month break.
Tritium - 29000bq / liter
Strontium-90 - 8,6bq / liter (again, no error)
On June 19, 2013 the results of the analysis of samples taken on May 24, 2013 were published.
Tritium - 500000bq / liter
Strontium-90 - 1000bq / liter

Fukushima data
It can be seen how work is being carried out efficiently and hi-tech))

[sir.jonn]

Quote: Kibalchish

And that water - so the ocean is big.

Have you heard about the migration of commercial fish species, or do you think that only currents can harm

Quote: Kibalchish

And the territory is deactivated.

Unlike the Chernobyl disaster, where it was possible to localize the infected territory of the Fukushima nuclear power plant, it does not have such an opportunity because of the proximity of the coast. And too large volumes of contaminated soil will not deactivate, either by area or by depth, just fill it with lead and pour concrete like in Chernobyl.

[Lomicus]

To send people like you to the Far East and settle closer to your beloved Japan, then we will look at your comments.

[sir.jonn]

Dear Mikhail, to refer this in the style of tsarist or Stalinist repressions. In our case, if a person is so sure, let him stay there or, as a last resort, he will look for a very fat and tasty sardine and Iwashi everyone so beloved in the Soviet Union, (remember in iron cans?) It is feeding somewhere there.

[Misantrop]

Quote: Kibalchish

In Japan, the scale of the disaster is much smaller

Do not lie. 4 emergency units + emergency storage of spent fuel assemblies less than one RBMK? Despite the fact that in Chernobyl the reaction went out IMMEDIATELY after the accident, and at Fukushima-1 at least one of the power units was not repaid BEFORE NOW. Otherwise, the radioactive iodine in the samples simply has nowhere to come from, with its half-life

[andruha70]

welcome all! specially registered to Kibalchish answer ... kibalchish-you imagine what it is-to deactivate radiation? The word is, of course, beautiful ... and the fact that for this, dozens of cm of lead ... or hundreds of cm of reinforced concrete is necessary, it never occurred to you? And yet, it’s not a fact that this is 100% DEACTIVATION .... you any (not to mention a nuclear physicist ... ) competent person will answer ...

[Alpha-omega]

"... And what about water - so the ocean is large. And the territory is decontaminated ..." - and what about the atmosphere, it's even greater, why be afraid.)))

Instead of a thousand words:

[anip]

In fact, the Japanese liquidators entered highly radioactive zones and carried out technical work there.

[Hudo]

Quote: anip

In fact, the Japanese liquidators entered highly radioactive zones and carried out technical work there.

It turns out that they caught - they caught a fish, but did not catch it. But this is not about that. God forbid, in 1986 something would have gone awry in the construction of the sarcophagus at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant - all the "truth-tellers" would shout to the whole world tirelessly about the club-handedness and inferiority of the Soviet people and their power, but then there was silence.

[Kibalchish]

The Japanese do not build a sarcophagus - they completely disassemble the station.

[Varnaga]

ahaha, I almost fell off my chair! so what, did you take it a lot?)) Nothing that the yapps will start extracting nuclear fuel in 10 years at the earliest?)) that is, when everything around is already completely infected))

[Misantrop]

Quote: Kibalchish

they completely disassemble the station

And where do they put it? And which of the 6 power units of the Fukushima-1 NPP do you mean? And nothing, that at the same time in one of the emergency blocks the chain reaction has not yet been extinguished?

[Misantrop]

Quote: anip

In fact, the Japanese liquidators entered highly radioactive zones and carried out technical work there.

Really, here is some happiness ... And the fact that the radioactivity of water in the engine rooms was noticed only when one of the hard workers scooped up his boots - these are already details

[Sirocco]

Quote: Kibalchish

but for us with our Chernobyl, it would be better to keep quiet.

Do you seriously think so, or are you talking about a blizzard for a red word? Chernobyl is a flower compared to Fukushima. And do not pick up the chatter of the Western media about the insignificant consequences after the Fuke accident. Which has been poisoning the oceans for several years, and you and me.

[Kibalchish]

Even our specialists say that Chernobyl was much worse. Or do you think that its own radiation is something better than bourgeois?

[Papakiko]

Quote: KazaK Bo

When CHERNOBYL happened, dozens of planes flew from Europe to Kiev to take their citizens out of the "nuclear hell" .... AND THERE IS SUCH SILENCE ..

So the Japonians and their families traveled around the world, supposedly on business trips. (Well, this is middle, top management and specialists)

Quote: Kibalchish

Even our specialists say that Chernobyl was much worse.

What is allowed is what they say. The rest can not be voiced or written.

I was very interested and I went to the town of Zarechny (BNPP) and inquired during the "glass of tea" what and how is it possible in Fukushima. And in a short form, the answer was: Forget it, it’s shameful and their mouths were closed to them. In Chernobyl, it took a lot of atmosphere and the Japonians merged everything into the water.

[fokino1980]

What are your specialists ??? And the accident in Japan cannot be less in consequence than in Chernobyl, the only thing that saves the proximity of the ocean!

[Misantrop]

Quote: Kibalchish

Even our specialists say that Chernobyl was much worse

Which ones? And what exactly are they specialists in? There are a lot of specialties there

[Varnaga]

Yeah, how well they cherish))

Almost 2 thousand emergency workers at the Japanese Fukushima-1 nuclear power plant received a potentially hazardous radiation dose. According to the Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun, at risk were 1973 a liquidator who has been exposed to radiation by more than 100 millisieverts.
The station operator initially claimed that 178 people, however, the actual number of exposed was higher.

How not good))
PS

According to experts, a dose of 100 millisievert significantly increases the risk of developing cancer, and to all those who have the misfortune to receive this dose of radiation, the operator of the Tokyo Electric Power Company station granted a lifetime right of free medical examination.

[LaGlobal]

Quote: Kibalchish

Yes, in Chernobyl they "really fought" ... throwing people into the radioactive heat, but in Japan they prefer to protect people

Oh yes, "great connoisseur" of the truth, you know better who is right and who is not!

Our PEOPLE (with a capital letter), not sparing their lives, saved this whole world from an invisible infection! And if you do not know the fact of this, that at first, the USSR sent robots to eliminate the disaster. But with what kind of radiation, robots, simply broke down, stalled. AND THEREFORE, MY DEAR "GREAT CONNECTOR" OF THE TRUTH, HAD TO SEND PEOPLE TO DEATH FOR WE TO LIVE TODAY! And I take off and bow my head to these people!

[Mikhail3]

To protect people is to allow the core of four reactors to freely melt outside of containment ?! I love liberal humanism! If a tough person kills you, you will quickly die. And if the liberal humanist regrets you, you will die too, but you will be very, very long tormented in hell! What the hell is there, in comparison with liberal justice, the devils are just children ...
Now ALL JAPAN is exposed to radioactive damage! And a very large part of the American coast. What is happening is much worse than atomic bombings, it is just that it is happening slowly and so far unnoticed. But when it becomes noticeable ... a person who still has shame would feel ashamed. But if, instead of shame, liberal "justice" ...

[Motors1991]

Guys, you don’t know, don’t write any nonsense. If the reactor core melted, then no water would flow out, and the radioactive vapor would go along and cover the whole of Asia, get it to the Urals exactly. And if you’re very concerned, drink vodka, well and strontium, and cesium displays, iodine does not decay very very quickly. Leave Fukushima to the Japanese, let their head hurt.

[Mikhail3]

Active zones were left without water. At first they warmed up (that very hour the barrels themselves had already broken with hydrogen and steam), then they naturally melted, having sintered as a whole with the material of the rods and partly with the walls of the reactors. Then these red-hot puddles burned a protective containment and ... fell into the water! There is water underground on the coast, you know.
In the process of melting, the area of ​​contact with water has decreased tenfold, because now these are not packs of round rods, but such puddles. Therefore, it is now impossible to cool these drops with water, they will melt for a long, very long time. But there will be no dust, because the Japanese supply there thousands of tons (three hundred tons per day, ha!) Of sea water, which slightly cools these "drops" and flushes all combustion products into the sea. "Leave it to the Japanese" will not work, ocean, you will not believe, common!

[Motors1991]

The water has the property to evaporate and no one will deliver it to the core. I was in Chernobyl from July 5 to October 18, so it’s not like a single drop of rain has fallen all summer, there haven’t been a cloud in the sky , they didn’t let us into the zone. The first rain fell on September 10th. By the way, there was a water pool under the reactor, when they calculated how much radioactive steam would form if the molten active mass burns through concrete, Kiev will have to be evacuated, so two people wore wetsuits, climbed into this pool, opened taps and drained the water, but who now remembers these people. Now, according to radiation doses, it is stated that about 2 thousand people in Fukushima received a dose of 100miliziverts, this is about 10 x-rays. So in Chernobyl, the norm after which they deduced for a zone of 25 x-rays, about 2 thousand people received such a dose of only concrete truck drivers from our base, this is not counting builders, tractor drivers, people who cleaned the roof, station workers. I have had cases when the mixer driver 6-7 X-ray was received. But that’s not all, by the order of the chief engineer US-605 (construction department building the sarcophagus) I don’t remember from which date, the radiation doses of drivers and builders were reduced by 1,4 times, I signed it myself, for what? There was a very high turnover, they didn’t have time to push the people. Moreover, no matter how much you get, no one will write you more than 24,7 rubles. When I read about Fukushima, it’s just ridiculous to compare with Chernobyl. What is the cost of designing and building a sarcophagus from scratch, and after all, before that, the miners broke tunnels under the reactor, then we poured them with concrete, someone dug a ditch around the station 30 meters deep and got muddy with clay and much more. And all this I repeat from scratch.

[Mikhail3]

Read my posts above. If you supply ENOUGH water, and do not bother with some kind of pollution ... This is what we all want to do right, and these ... Do not equate these underpants with you. Are you a builder as I understand it? But they are first of all bastards and vile cowards, because they have other problems ...
By the way, I advise you to read the information. They do not deny that they supply water there. They simply downplay its volume tenfold.

[Motors1991]

I’m not a builder, I’m a motorist, I worked on transshipment (this is where concrete was transferred from our mixers to MAZs, and they were already transporting it to the station) as an AK-1 mechanic, and as a result of my service I had to go around where our turntables unloaded concrete, and They dumped him mainly into concrete pumps. And they already drove him to the walls, so like any motorist was quite informed, of course I don’t know a lot of things, because the situation did not have excessive curiosity, there were several cases when very curious people received such doses that the ambulance came and took them. This muck doesn’t smell, does not smoke, does not light up, so I wasn’t recommended to hang around on the block, especially if you aren’t local. Plus, I was a lieutenant, Motherland took me from the post of chief of a motorcall in ATP and sent a mechanic to Avtobaza 3 UMiAT US-605 in Chernobyl, just like she did with foremen, craftsmen, engineers, percent 70 of the lower ITR US-605, there were just such lieutenants as I. We lived at first two weeks in Chernobyl itself, then we were transferred to the pioneer camp ,, Pilot ,, near Radomyshl, in conversations we naturally shared information on work among ourselves. We were well aware of the causes of the disaster already in the summer of 86, because some of us worked with the station’s staff, they weren’t evacuated anywhere, they were taken out of the zone to the camps and that’s all. The only thing was we didn’t know who gave the command to conduct the experiment. Only in the 2000s did the information leaked that the order came from the CPSU Central Committee. As for the cowardice of the Japanese, still it’s not known how we would behave now. Then there was a different country, a different people. I did not feel such a feeling of universal brotherhood, as then in Chernobyl anywhere and never. I’ll add when they say that the sarcophagus is about to collapse, I laugh and I answer, it is built on such a selective mat that it will last longer than the Egyptian pyramids.

[Misantrop]

Quote: Motors1991

information leaked that the order came from the Central Committee of the CPSU

Quote: Motors1991

who gave the command to conduct the experiment

The Central Committee of the CPSU did not decide ANYTHING, too large a crowd of people. Decisions were made in the Politburo of the Central Committee. And on the 4th block itself it was forced through and directly led by a certain Woodpecker. This is the one with ... but that pushed the start of the experiment contrary to the opinion of the operators. Very much he was in a hurry to report to the holiday ...

With regard to the melting of the cores, it really happened when the assemblies were left without water. But they were more or less held by the zirconium shell of the assemblies. But when salty ocean water got on this red-hot one ... the most "merriment" began. Zirconium in the presence of chlorine ions and high temperatures instantly reacts with water, taking oxygen from it. This is where the gigantic amount of free hydrogen came from, which exploded the hulls of the blocks when released into the air.

And then everything is even funnier. The American scientific school has come up with the name for such an amorphous mass of the fuel composition - "corium". Allegedly, this rubbish is so hot that it burns through everything, so it must be cooled. But in fact, the temperature there is below 100 degrees, and burning occurs due to the ongoing chain reaction, in which water serves as a neutron moderator. It is no coincidence that there was no "corium" in Chernobyl, and that in the USA during the accident on Three Mile Island, that in "Fukushima" it is like mud. They just confused the process with the substance ...

[Motors1991]

I will not argue who gave the command to the experiment, it is clear that she came from the very top. No director will do such things on her own, at that time it was said that at first they wanted to conduct this experiment at the Zaporizhzhya NPP, but there the director turned out to be stronger and not seduced by the promised order and other blessings, for which we should be grateful to him for the grave of life, otherwise he would have wandered in the middle of Ukraine in one of the most densely populated areas, millions of people would have to be evacuated. So even with lucky Chernobyl, the wind blew, so to speak in Polesie, even the city of Pripyat was scribbled over the edge, on the opposite side of Chernobyl the whole forest was burned out, I can’t even imagine how it would approach the station if the wind blew to Chernobyl, and so all communications were almost unaffected, in only two places was yellow the forest was cut off 150 meters from the road. Now, as for Fukushima, I’m obviously not a big specialist, if the reactors are destroyed and there is a reaction in them, the water in them should be suicidal, even if the temperature the tour is less than 100 degrees, because it will evaporate and the entire adjacent territory will constantly increase the radioactive background, I tell you as a practice. In July 1986, in Chernobyl, the background was 1,5-2 millientgen, this is if the wind was blowing to the side station, if vice versa 2-3 millirentgen. The distance from Chernobyl to the station is 18km.

[Misantrop]

It was such a fashion then, it even reached the naval installations ... The installation itself transferred to this mode, only it is quicker and more compact with us, and the experience is more noticeable than that of civilian operators. After all, they have been sitting in stationary mode almost for years, and on the fleet for another month, five or six inputs and outputs are running.

Quote: Motors1991

water suicide in them suicidally

And they cannot but submit, they are still praying for the IAEA instruction that the Soviet Navy canceled it back in 1968 after the accident on the K-140. And in that instruction, the supply of abundant cooling is almost the main point. So they pour ...

[Motors1991]

Honestly, I would not like to participate in such experiments, when I saw the destroyed block for the first time, there was an irresistible desire to disappear, my head immediately pulled into my shoulders and generally became noticeably smaller. According to the instructions that you told me the news, I'm a distant person from the nuclear industry, just I had to face this in life, but even I understand that water cannot be poured into the reactor. In Chernobyl, they even stopped throwing lead when it came to be that these ingots did not only destroy the bombs inside, they still melt and give poisonous fumes , dangerous in themselves, without any radiation. When I already had some white matter, very sticky, sprinkled from helicopters, if it got into the windshield, it was difficult to tear it off.

[Des10]

Thank. Just human thanks. I have friends of Chernobyl, but more -
three are gone.

[Horde]

Quote: Kibalchish

This article is already similar to verbiage.

Well, what do you say to the words of Professor Ostretsov? why should he lie? keep minus by the way

[yur]

Dear, what does "throwing people into the radioactive hell" mean? The work was like this, and it was done completely, accurately and on time, but the Japanese could not repeat this, and not because they took care of people, but because it turns out that they do not know and can do everything in the world. PS By the way, I myself am a "liquidator of 1986" and if the Motherland calls (God forbid, of course, something like that), then we will repeat.

[strange and pretty meaningless]

"Just a few days after the accident at the nuclear power plant, the concentration of iodine-131, which fell out in the United States, exceeded the world norm by 211 times."

God marks the assault! I remember well in March 2011 - I just came from a flight, I got the salary in yen. And the yen - bang! - and sank. Japas, however, leveled off quite quickly ...

But nearby is one of the main fishing areas - the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the Bering Sea. What will Sir Onishchenko tell us ...

[dirty trick]

Quote: abyrvalg

But nearby is one of the main fishing areas - the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the Bering Sea

specify - these are Russian regions and they do not care.
and about the fact that sarcophagi are not poured - he saved, then he earned

[anip]

Quote: abyrvalg

But nearby is one of the main fishing areas - the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the Bering Sea. What will Sir Onishchenko tell us ...

Will not say anything. Betrayal of national interests since the days of Gorbachev in fashion.

[andrei332809]

since our residents are basically fearless in ists, it is necessary to send military chemical defenders there to cover the sarcophagus, and to protect the marines and airborne forces, well, a couple of hundred tanks. yes there and stay. maybe the Japs will forget about the "northern territories"

[Misantrop]

Quote: andrei332809

need to send there

No need to send, they will not let go, the restricted area. Try to find satellite images of this nuclear power plant before the accident. They are online. And try to find the energy-conducting power lines in these images. You will not find them NO. All the energy produced by 6 not the smallest units of this nuclear power plant was consumed in situ. And now think about which industries require MUCH energy ...

[Mikhail3]

I am very sorry ... The power line was not there, but yes, yes. Because the Japanese do not build them almost, preferring to bother with underground gaskets. So there was a cable, and it still broke, because a rock collapsed somewhere.
Mysterious "production" - well, for example, to melt aluminum from bauxite. No. Or (oh horror!) Do you mean centrifuges? In an earthquake-prone area, which is the whole country? Something Dr. Evil is too stupid now. Or maybe the same gaseous diffusion technology? The only question is - what is the subject of such miracles? Because without the Americans, who built all nuclear power plants and all electrical facilities, this cannot be done.
Some garbage comes out, in those years no one was really afraid, but the engineers were very cool, and we and they have. To place enrichment plants on foreign territory in order to transport uranium there by sea? And at what? Too easy to control, difficulties wanted? Or is it the Japanese themselves? Americans in the ass and they themselves all blinded? The seas burn, the forests flow, the mouse drowned in stone ...

[Misantrop]

Quote: Mikhail3

Or (oh horror!) Do you mean centrifuges? In an earthquake-prone area that the whole country is?

And for underground cables of SUCH capacity, the area is NOT seismic, yeah. By the way, do they not bother with transformer substations either, directly from the generator and into the cable? And what is his diameter, for 6 not the weakest blocks? And another interesting feature - the Japanese somehow organized the supply of backup power to these units for some reason; there is a power line there, albeit of small capacity.

Quote: viktorR

What kind of production will you show?

I myself am interested, but they’re not allowed to go there, ANYTHING (including Americans) Why?
By the way, Japan has an enrichment plant that is quite official. They make fuel assemblies for themselves, and this is poorly real without separators. They even there in 1999 a small nuclear accident happened http://dead-city.ru/techno/avariya_tokaymura/

And here is also a reference interesting to Fukushima and its oddities:
http://ruscesar.livejournal.com/238940.html

[Mikhail3]

For properly laid cables - no, not seismic. At least when choosing whether to make earthquake-proof cable channels or earthquake-resistant mast of power transmission lines, in the 60 years of that century the first decision was made. Why? I'm not a doctor Those thermal power plants where I thought something on our Shield are standing, we are not waiting for earthquakes yet. The cable is not one, there are several. The sections due to the transmitted capacities are not weak, but there is nothing monstrous there, why? Cable and cable ...
As for substations - if the power does not eat an electric demon at the output, then there are substations for anyone, no matter how secret or mysterious the production is. It’s just that it’s not so easy to notice, that’s all. Maybe it's light boxes (Americans love it) right next to the blocks.
By the way, a backup power line - they recently threw it. And about their relationship, you are a little of that ... mistaken. This is now the Japanese can try somewhere not to let the Americans. Try ... And when they built the nuclear power plant ... in general, the Americans know absolutely everything there and much more of what the Japanese themselves do not know. Of course, they have assembly production. But the production of such power to gobble up the production of six blocks, 4,7 gigawatts ... a million centrifuges? Come on...
Yes, I read the link. The block worked "for its own needs". You are tempted to launch deaerators from your neighbors, they will trample water hammers if there is no main steam. In the same place, the length of pipelines is not like in boats, hundreds of meters. And extinguish everything else ... is he bad, or what? Found a secret, conspiracy theorist, tree ...

[viktorR]

Looked, really you are right.
A link to guesses with the analysis, what kind of production will you show there? The truth is very interesting!

[Internet fighter]

Quote: viktorR

A link to guesses with the analysis, what kind of production will you show there? The truth is very interesting!

Real filming from the online broadcast: "Miraculous wonders".

[viktorR]

Something is not clear ... And what is happening there? I am not a very attentive person, apparently ...

[KazaK Bo]

Strange, of course, a lot. Why is the information in our media very stingy and dosed? How did our scientific expeditions (about which so much was told by our TV) directed by the Russian GEOGRAPHICAL SOCIETY verified infection levels? After all, it is on our very shores! And there our people catch fish and crabs ... and go to the beach ... and rain often pour, after a breeze from the Japanese islands.
But what about the international community? Where did the ubiquitous GRINPEES go? Why isn't he storming the shores of Japan? Why is he silent? When CHERNOBYL happened, dozens of planes flew from Europe to Kiev to take their citizens out of the "nuclear hell" .... AND THERE IS SUCH SILENCE .... Only (in the words of the cinematic image of Savely KRAMOROV) there are no dead with braids along the road. ..but they will be, if our ONISCHENKOVS and other principled guards of our health, WILL BE SILENT!
Or to be afraid to raise a scandal? ... To be afraid that a lot will come out ... a lot of strange things in this earthquake ... and the "ears" of our "sworn partner" will appear?
All this is strange!

[Kubanets]

In an interview with academician Ostretsov, the position of a liberal hamster of a journalist is noteworthy.

[mamba]

Quote: Kubanets

In an interview with academician Ostretsov, the position of a liberal hamster of a journalist is noteworthy.

and the desire to chatter a specialist in a vain attempt to increase his worth. This "hamster" literally blocked the academician's speech with his chatter, not allowing him to speak. Hiring a specialist of this level for an interview and constantly interrupting it is the height of disrespect.

[saag]

And I was somehow surprised by the lack of mention in those programs that came after Fukushima, so this is information about robots, where is really Japanese high-tech? And is it in the country of victorious robotics?

[mamba]

Quote: saag

where is really japanese hi-tech? And is it in the country of victorious robotics?

Their robots were created for the sake of window dressing: here, they say, we are so cool, the most advanced! Yes, their robots dance well, but work poorly in radiation conditions. Therefore, the Japanese and trained detachments of volunteer suicide bombers.

[Mikhail3]

Turn off the anime ... They don’t have volunteers, that's the problem - there is nobody to work. Well, no one just dares to approach and that’s it, they threw plastic water pipes on long arrows, cut off the feed pumps from the remaining blocks for ejection and washed the active zones in the sea. Such a decontamination ...

[Internet fighter]

Quote: Mikhail3

They don’t have volunteers, that’s the problem - there is nobody to work.

If they had not paid money, they would not have worked at all.
PS. Still, we must pay tribute, they recruited a squad of "suicide bombers" at the beginning of the emergency.

[Poppy]

in the conditions of radiation, any robots work poorly, because electronics does not like radiation, pneumology must be restored as ours did in the 80s

[mamba]

Quote: Poppy

in the conditions of radiation, any robots work poorly, because electronics does not like radiation

As an electronics engineer, I can tell you exactly which electronics are "afraid" of radiation and which ones. These are field-effect transistors and microcircuits based on them, thyristors of all types (dinistors, trinistors and triacs) and devices containing them. And they are "afraid" of neutrons. I myself have tested the radiation resistance of semiconductor lasers with integral pump generators.
So, the developers of electronics for robots that are resistant to radiation, no one interfered with the use of chips on bipolar transistors.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: mamba

no one interfered with the use of chips on bipolar transistors.

and lamps ... lamps will help?

[mamba]

Quote: antiaircrafter

and lamps ... lamps will help?

Of course, but this archaic is suitable for museums. Their age in equipment with receiving PZ has long ended. But the radiation resistance of the EEC was the highest.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: mamba

Of course

I knew it.

[tilovaykrisa]

Yapi is fatally unlucky with radiation.

[Internet fighter]

They are fatally unlucky with "friends".

[I think so]

They (the Japanese) are so intimidated and snarled by their (?) Elite that all these problems are a real trifle for them (even atomic bombing) ... Well, their elite is yes - stupidity, obstinacy, narcissism, LITERACY, and hence CONSTANTLY incorrect STRATEGIC decisions ... I think that they (both the Japanese and the elite) jump before another nuclear bombardment ... now from the Koreans ... And in deed - when there is no brain, the priest suffers ... and let it suffer ...

[denson06]

Quote: Sirocco

The territory is close, but underwater currents pull all these leaks towards the United States. And for some reason, the USA is silent, why would it?

I highly doubt that, as Egen pointed out above, radiation is common for the Japanese .. although this is again a stone in the US garden with their bombs in 1945 and their "friends" from Japan, whose pride will never wake up ... in general, these islanders were not very lucky with "friends" .. as it was said in the title of one of the recent articles of the Military Review: "Worse than a war with the Anglo-Saxons can only be friendship with them .."

[USNik]

TEPCO caught fish, sea bass, which had 254 becquerels per kilogram of weight, which exceeded 000 times the Japanese radiation standards.

At this rate, Japan will soon become the home of mutations, pathologies and a radioactive testing ground. It is bad that the inhabitants of the Far East involuntarily take part in this "experiment".

[Sergey Medvedev]

The Japanese behave irresponsibly towards their neighbors. It makes sense to run into them using economic sanctions. And to limit the access of Japanese goods to the Russian market, and the oil that goes to them from Sakhalin. For a collision on Japan, it is worth attracting other Far Eastern neighbors - the PRC and the DPRK. Maybe someone else will connect. The main thing is to start.

[pensioner]

According to experts, about 300 tons are poured into the ocean per day.
Chernobyl is on the go resting. You can regret the yapps. They have a little, not 70% of the supply to the ocean tied. But the fact that for more than 2 years no measures have been taken to eliminate the leak of contaminated water into the ocean is a crime. Worldwide. It would be nice to call the perpetrators to justice.

[eplewke]

Let's start with the fact that the half-lives of strontium and cesium can reach tens of years without catalysts. How many of its relatives can one fish infect during this time.? Can you imagine the scale? How many people are "addicted" to Japanese cuisine now ??? Sushi rolls with raw fish? Would you like to eat radionuclide fish ??? But this is one problem. As you know, groundwater does not stand still, it is a system of groundwater, it envelops the entire island. And if superheavy hydrogen (tritium) gets there, this isotope poses a radiation hazard when inhaled, absorbed from food, absorbed through the skin, that is, drink water from a tap, dear Japanese, you are not in danger ...

[Misantrop]

Quote: eplewke

the half-life of strontium and cesium can reach tens of years without catalysts

Can you tell me what these "catalysts" of radiative decay are? World nuclear physics does not yet know about such ...

[eplewke]

meant half-life blockers. Reservation. The essence of the post does not change from this. A lot of dirt flows, and nobody shouts a voice about it. And it would be necessary!

[Mikhail3]

The decay of a radioactive material is a natural process during which the material decays under the influence of neutrons emitted by the material itself. Do not share - what can catalyze / block it (I don’t know what you described again)? And according to the meaning of your post - you were not going to block the decay but somehow accelerate ... maybe cover with a tungsten lid?

[eplewke]

That's it, that nothing is being taken to leak this dirt! Though lead plugs would be put underground, or I don’t know, they dug up the earth and put in layers, so that the water would not leak into the open ocean or groundwater. In Chernobyl, a meter layer of land was removed and taken out. And then just pour water on the power unit and that's it.

[Chicot 1]

Even after the Chernobyl accident, I read a quote in one of our newspapers voiced in the Japanese media. Literally, over the years, I don’t remember her (do not blame her), but her whole point was that an accident at a nuclear facility can happen only in a backward country, and never in a developed one. Well, for example, in Japan. Like, we Japanese are some kind of advanced pipe and we won’t allow anything like that ...
I am not going to eat about Fukushima. Because of this accident, many people were injured, and enormous damage was caused to the environment. But I just want to say to the gentlemen of the Japanese:
-Don't say "gop!" until you jump...

[Arabist]

it’s obvious that they built on conscience, relying on Japanese chance, calculated the station for a seven-point earthquake in the coastal zone, where there were nine points, and a tsunami six meters high, although in the last hundred years at least three times a ten-meter, but once ( September 1, 1923) - and more than twenty meters. The station was built according to the project of an American company with the symbolic name Ebasco. So it "fucked up" - as you call a yacht, so it will float.

[Chicot 1]

Maybe he happened in the Japanese ... And gouging too ...

[Doctor Evil]

This is you now an excerpt from the article "Fukushima" from Lurkomorye stuck. If only a reference was shared or something. The article is really informative.

[Arabist]

I will not deny it, I took it from there, the article is not bad, although Lurk is not the ultimate truth in different articles, they have errors.

[Chicot 1]

Quote: Dr. Evil

You just stuck an excerpt from the article "Fukushima" from Lurkomorya

It was I who reproduced what I read in the Trud newspaper exactly in the middle of the year 1986 from the birth of Christ ...
So here "Lucamoria" nervously smokes Virginia samosad around the corner and far to the side. As the saying goes, feel the depth and difference in the situation, Ilya ...

[Doctor Evil]

Dear Vasily. Some confusion has occurred. My comment was the answer to the Arabist. Why he fell down, I don’t know.

[Bigfoot_Sev]

the main thing for the Japanese is not to lose face. it is exclusively eastern. Now they themselves can’t do anything special. they can’t let gaijin to themselves. therefore poking around silently and save face.

= ^ _ ^ =

[Albert1988]

Quote: Bigfoot_Sev

the main thing for the Japanese is not to lose face.

Well, just below, I’ve already unsubscribed about this, but the only catch is that if they provoke a major environmental disaster with their inaction, they will lose their face so much that their mother does not grieve!

[Bigfoot_Sev]

no. even in the case of a global and total hardcore, even in this case, the Japanese will not lose face. they will frown and tighten their lips. maybe even someone remembers the samurai code and accepts all the blame. but not a face.

in practice, the Japanese can forget about the loss of face, when, so to speak, there is already an example of a person who has lost his face but not convicted of it.

as applied to fukushima, it might look like this:
1. on the coast of Japan landed a foreign landing, armed with technology, technology, people.
2. the landing party rakes the crazy Japanese away and begins to iron, disassemble, clean, store, take out everything.
3. The Japanese, having snapped their faces in disbelief for some time, join the process.

= ^ _ ^ =

[Albert1988]

Or, when they begin to feel the consequences of their own sloppiness, they will turn everything in a different direction - the Kuril Islands will begin to demand with doubled intensity, or there they will talk even more about the suffering of the Japanese people from the radiation threat. Most likely, nuclear power plants will be frantically shut down, which will increase the consumption of hydrocarbons with all the consequences.
It is striking that the nation is not stupid, but they don’t at all learn from their mistakes ...

[Ruslan_F38]

"For more than two years, the Japanese, whom our Westernized intelligentsia considered a super-tech nation, have polluted the oceans." - this is the essence of the Japanese - with an imperturbable look to continue to kill and die - sick aggressors with sick pride.

[Ruslan_F38]

Hmm, minus, apparently the Japanese on the site

[FC SKIF]

For all the nasty things that are being done to the world, amers begin to teach in full. On one coast, oil, generously diluted with chemistry (do not forget about the golf stream with its eccentricities), is washing radiation onto the other. Urgently evacuate everyone in the yutu! Yapy also screwed up to the fullest, and let the robots dancing and working in the hairdressing salon not mislead anyone - it was found out in Fukushima that the Russians had cars for such cases, but they didn’t. One thing is bad: not the largest country in the world with a high population density has lost a significant territory for a long time, but here the neighbor is bigger and there are not so many people in the adjacent territory. No matter how they decided on any adventure.

[Lidia irkutsk]

The "supranational" elites have long decided on a more abrupt "adventure": to significantly reduce the population of the planet (apparently, Fukushima will help them), and to move themselves to (in geological terms, the most prosperous and most catastrophic) territory - Western Siberia. And after all, they are building matmodels.

[Hort]

so why haven’t the issue been raised yet at the UN? If the rice themselves can not cope with the problem, then the assistance of international forces is needed. First of all, the same Russia, the USA and China, as members of the Security Council, plus the rest of the countries whose shores are washed by the Pacific Ocean, and which may receive undesirable consequences of such a Japanese distribution ..

[Albert1988]

Here is the result - another ecological catastrophe is brewing in the Pacific Ocean, and after all, the fault is the stupid (in my humble opinion) Japanese habit of trying to cope with even the most serious problems without resorting to anyone's help, even if it is necessary, but everything is for in order to "save face". So the corporation owning the station for several days hid the scale of the accident from the government and tried to eliminate everything on its own, then the Japanese government tried to cope without attracting foreign help, although this had to be done right away, and now they finally admitted that radioactive water was already flowing into the ocean 2 years, when it's too late ... In general, the obstinacy of some nations begins to cause logical bewilderment - I understand that they may not care about other countries, but to pollute their waters, which feed you, is already too much ...

[Uncle lee]

They have several punctures:
1. Seismic zone and tsunami zone
2. Design of reactors - emergency jamming of reactors MANUALLY !!!
3. Emergency diesel engines were below the "waterline", and they were flooded.
4. Incompetence of personnel: they started the DG for a long time, for a long time they thought that it was possible to drive mobile DG, for a long time they connected the DG into the system, and the reactors were heated without cooling and then flopped.
Then they began to pour water, BUT ... it’s too late to drink Borjomi .... Water is still being poured and it flows into the ocean.
But the face is not lost. And all of Asia is silent and the United States is also a root after all.

[Albert1988]

Quote from Uncle Lee

And all of Asia is silent and the United States is also a root after all

The USA is understandable, but Asia is really strange, because everything is nearby. If only they do not want to raise a panic ...

[Ivan79]

1986 The Japanese wrote in their newspapers: "Russian savages should not be allowed to nuclear technology."
But at one time, these "savages" in the shortest possible time curbed one of the most dangerous man-made
disasters! And educated and technological Japanese, it seems, think that the waste itself flows into the ocean,
and the volatile fractions will be dispersed by the wind.

[Irtysh]

It’s good that the Balts don’t have the money to build nuclear power plants. If the Japanese behave like underdeveloped Indians, then what will the Lithuanians have? Pah-pah-pah ...

It is true that they ruined the economy, even if they are better engaged in ecotourism. So it will be safer for everyone. And impose sanctions on the Japanese and surround them with a fence for cowardice and technical sloppiness.

[Petrix]

Quote: Irtysh

It’s good that the Baltic states don’t have money to build nuclear power plants

It’s in vain that there is money in Belarus. They will build a bomb, and the uranium fuel will end and the danger will remain. And where is the waste? In Naroch drown ?. The Fukushima example does not teach anything. They would invest this money in alternative energy.

[I think so]

Typical reasoning of an incompetent balabol ...
Honored at least sometimes the official press ...
1. Uranium on the planet is still at least two hundred years old at the current RATE of growth in electricity consumption.
2. There will be practically NO WASTE after the introduction of the technology for generating energy at FAST neutron reactors. So far, the ONLY rector is in Russia. (It has been working for 30 years, and the p.i.d.o.s.s.were not able to do this.)
3. Academician Kapitsa back in the 80s of the last millennium proved that alternative energy is in principle not able to meet the needs of mankind because of its high cost and low efficiency. Roughly speaking, you won’t get much energy out of poop, but just ram it.

Total. Balabol he and in Africa balabol. If only the brain would turn on a little and monitor the surrounding REALITY ...

[asadov]

now one more reason is clear why they want to regain part of the Kuril ridge for use. People from Fokushima need to be relocated somewhere. This is of course a joke. But in general, it is very sad and more than once comes around.

[soldier's grandson]

I read somewhere that the liquidators of Yapu had no volunteers, those whom the debtors of Yakuza were sent to liquidation, so Yakuza had looted from the state, and the liquidators of the debtors fulfilled their debts

[Uncle lee]

Yes, it was.

[viruskvartirus]

Sorry author, but there is a lot of radiophobia and zero facts. "Firstly, the Japanese are no more advanced at high technology than the rest of the people." in general, all six reactors are designed by General Electric. If we are to present claims to the Japanese because it is about actions in an emergency, hydrogen has not been accumulating for a minute.

[Sashko07]

I read an interesting phrase somewhere - there are about 2000 nuclear power plants (reactors) in the world, if at least 10% of them explode at the same time, then there will be a quick end to all life on earth. Atomic war is babble in comparison with this, because after it there are likely to be living people and clean, liveable territories. No wonder how much effort was put into eliminating the Chernobyl accident, otherwise at least all of equatorial Europe would be covered by radioactive fallout.

[Sarmat1972]

I am not a specialist, but I read somewhere that a thermonuclear explosion produces much less emission of decay products than during accidents at nuclear power plants. The stronger the chain reaction to the mass of the substance, the less decay products. Maybe I'm wrong about something - correct it.

[Albert1988]

I, too, am not a specialist, I will say it simply: during a thermonuclear explosion, there is basically no decay (it occurs only during the explosion of a small atomic bomb, fuse), and synthesis, much more is released during the synthesis of energy, and much less harmful products than during decay. As for nuclear explosions, such an explosion is an order of magnitude dirtier than a bomb explosion - because there is no burning of a very large number of nuclear fuel and it is scattered around, if the nuclear power plant explodes strongly, in Chernobyl, as far as I know, radioactive graphite dust from the rods basically scattered - it is certainly not sugar, but in animal organisms (in meat) in The pulp of fruits and other plant tissues does not accumulate, if you walk in a respirator and wash everything thoroughly, you can live in principle, but in focus ...

[Sashko07]

And all the more, I’m not a specialist, just my father, the liquidator of the Chernobyl accident, one very smart little man told him there in secret what would happen if that reactor weren’t filled in time. So I conclude: if from the explosion of one reactor the whole of Europe could be bent, then what will happen if several of these reactors collapse.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Sashko07

equatorial Europe

I heard about equatorial Africa, where is equatorial Europe?

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: antiaircrafter

equatorial Europe where is it?

A map of equatorial Europe can be purchased in the same store where the globe of Moldova is sold ...

[fennekRUS]

Chernobyl, Fukushima ... The time of the heroes has passed, there are marketing experts ..

[mole]

We need to translate such articles into Japanese more and panic on Japanese sites, let them know the delights of democracy.

[Silkway0026]

I congratulate the Japanese crap ..., damn it, give them the northern territories! they cannot cope with one accident. Everything in the garden !!! and dig, dig, dig, build sarcophagi, samurai rash!

[nelson]

Well, the pollution went to the mattresses, and they are silent! So they are silent correctly, for which LGBT people are advertised and pushed around the world so that they give birth less and do not increase the number of mouths on the mother’s earth. Why is the predicted chaos in the territory of the eastern peoples famous for their high birth rate, as my favorite comedian Zhvanetsky said: "in order to somehow reduce the load on the soil." Following from this scenario and infecting the shores of the mattress works on the idea. Why yell about it? Let everything pass quietly and solidly!

[Sashko07]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Quote: Sashko07

equatorial Europe

I heard about equatorial Africa, where is equatorial Europe?

I apologize - blurted out without thinking, I think everyone understood what I mean

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Sashko07

I'm sorry

C'mon ... I just buckled.

[Megatron]

I remembered, "and now our peaceful atom, the whole of Europe is using foul language" .... and why is no one covering them?
Double standards, their mother through three decks!

[vanderhaas]

No, here, in the states, they also cover it, they just do not scream to the whole world. Algae off the coast of California are already well contaminated with radioactive isotopes of cesium and strontium. There these goats have not one Chernobyl, but four (according to the number of leaky reactors), so you won’t be able to conduct local ones on the chaff: as the accident happened, they stopped buying all the Japanese grub. The thing is that from this Fukushima straight across Alaska to the south along the coast of California there is a rather powerful cold current.
Nobody knows what to do with these leaky reactors: the fuel is all inside, in a semi-molten state. It is these sheep that have to water this whole farm with water, so that at least the outside temperature in the region of 100 degrees Celsius is. Here on TV, when the groundwater scandal erupted, they showed how glorious Japanese supertechnologists freeze all the soil under the station and around to -60 degrees Celsius to prevent the leakage of radioactive groundwater into the ocean. How much energy is required and which stations will generate this energy, modestly kept silent. Poisoners, on the whole, continue to freeze. In summary, it is necessary to demand from GDP that Hokkaido be taken away, or even Hokkaido will be dirtied,.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: vanderhaas

it is necessary to demand from GDP that Hokkaido be taken away, or even Hokkaido will be dirtied,.

I support the offer.
In addition, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will become our railway.

[Cynic]

Another explanation of interest in the Northern Territories.
Dispersal field ?

[Hitrovan07]

I remembered one bike (at the end of the 80s of the last century they told) - how the Japanese at their nuclear plants in ordinary buckets (by hand) carried radioactive waste. Now it’s clear - something could really be.

[Grifan]

Most importantly, the Japanese Grandprix guide is hiding

[HERMAJOR4IK]

Yes, everything without a liter is understandable to the world elite that has the power to make decisions no matter what nationality it is of the American Russian or God forgive the Japanese Gandura forgiven absolute poher on their own citizens and especially on citizens of other states_ they really live in their own special world know where to hang out is harmful to health and from which garden the fucking truffle was badly eaten by stsuki in the world conspiracy of hedonist sybarites and believe that for their age of clean beaches and a healthy pup there’s no more

[Alexs3524]

To the point, everything is g. But from them, who consider themselves smart

[Alexs3524]

I heard that our people offered them help in eliminating the accident, since we have some experience, but the Japs refused

[rocketman]

In short, what is not a reason to write igrulyu "sequel to the stalker" So the monster is ready - a huge shellfish with nunchaku!

[Lidia irkutsk]

I support HERMAJOR4IK. The "supranational" elites have long been ardently wanting to significantly reduce the planet's population (and Fukushima is in their favor), and in the event of global cataclysms, they really want to move to the (geologically safe and most catastrophic) territory - Western Siberia. And after all, they build matmodels seriously. Well, it's very interesting http: //profsoyuzgrazhdanskii.rf/? S = Fursov + PGR & x = 11 & y = 5

[Cynic]

Quote: Lidia Irkutsk

well, they really want to move to (geologically safe and most disastrous) territory - Western Siberia. And after all, serious models are being built.

I wonder who builds them for them, Cheese it is only externally, both politically and geologically calm.
By the way, the only city in Russia where physically blessed Gorby is in Siberia, since then he went there no-no.

[RusneTRUS]

she still comes around

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[Masterzserg]

So the topic is ... "Underground sand processing plant in Zimbabwe! Threats! Expert forecasts!"

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[KononAV]

I'm sorry for the fish. And politics is politics.

[Tamerlanf1]

Fucking capitalists all over the planet

[hellriker]

Do not forget about thousands of lantern cars and bikes. To the heap still with faulty electrics.

[Kostya pedestrian]

I told you that the Jap customs officers are losers.
And in vain the Australian government invested its trust in them.
It was not enough for us to have fuki-puki happen. Oh, these Perun jokes!

I would like to suggest a song for Japanese karaoke fans:

And the aortas are torn, but they don’t dare go up, There on the left side, there on the right side, There, right along the way, the Horned Death is blocking the passage.

And for acquaintances from the USA, as Leonov said in “Striped Flight”: “Whether you like it or not, the Japas awarded me a purple horn” ...................... .......

By the way, there is also a tunnel there, not the same one where Dodo and Diana had an accident, but somewhat similar to ours in Tottenham. True, we don’t have a Caponnet cafe, but there is one there. Maybe there will be billion-dollar capital?

Not a country, but a field of wonders, just like their advertisement above the Cologne sign says in the style of Beverly Hills Cop 2: “honda-dent.jp”.